Right, welcome you
today the Battles of Faith
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my name is David
Shin and I am here with
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Steve Wohlberg who is
the speaker director of
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White Horse media
based in Fresno California,
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he is the author of
several books and will be
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delving into this topic
of the super natural from
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the Biblical perspective
and I would like to welcome
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you to our program you
know its strange to three ADN
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and I've just been fascinating
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as we've been
going through scripture
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and masking some
of the deceptions
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is behind the occult
and awake a magic and so
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far then I'm just been amazed
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at the pervasive
nature that this is taken
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there is almost
inoculums thing that this taken
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society by storm.
And I'm just fascinated
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with what you have
to show with us today.
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Yeah, it looks
inoculums, it looks friendly,
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it looks safe and
positive and that's why
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so many young
people in grows are just
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getting into the
occult and experimenting with
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magic, but there is a
immense behind the magic
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and that's why we are doing
this special 13 part series
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dealing with magic and ghosts,
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ghosts and the Bible.
And we'll be dealing with
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Ghosts like a couple
of program that had of us.
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Today we are going to talk about
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what i called the
dark side of wicker
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which craft is
presenting itself to society
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with a friendly face
times had change to used
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to be that people
would think about which craft
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and which is and
they thought about
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old woman with a big black hats
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and long noses with the
with words on their nose
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and always dressed in
black and they were just you
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know, very
sinister looking people,
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but times have change,
I've read number of time
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from an article
called season in the witched
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that appear in world magazine,
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not too long ago and it
says that followers of wicker
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are working hard to
erase negative sterile types
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of witches and they are finding
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extraordinary success.
Today they look more like
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the good witch
glender in the visit of us
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then the wicked
witch of the west.
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Wicked has grown in
numbers and influence
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and entertainment value
and beautiful witches seem
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to be eveyr where, they are hip,
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they are slick
and they have power.
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Wicked are really
tranferred to America
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in the 1960's.
It's pretty common
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knowledge that it
really can go goes back to
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a Britich witched
name Gerald Gardner
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and in the 60s the
couple of his disciples
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came to America and
began a slowly disseminates
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among the American public
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the teachings of witched craft.
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And it was at the same
time that to be witched
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series, the TV series came out.
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and it became extremely popular
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and looks like Montgomery
the friendly house wife
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you know who wiggled her nose.
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In 1964 to 1972 it
one 23 emmy awards,
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and that program
began to make people think
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more positively of
witches especially housewives,
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because Elizabeth Montgomery
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you know, that would
be witched star was the
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house wife and then
after that you've got some
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brain of the teenage
witch, the Charm series
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Practical Magic
with Nicole Kidman, and
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Sandra Bullock,
I Married a Witch
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again starring Nicole Kidman
and of course Harry Potter
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and you can trace the
popularity and the inroads
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of TV program
that make witch craft
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how to seem really
cool and fun and magic
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as exciting, you can trace the
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a parallel growth
of interest in real
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witch craft
specially among teenage growth.
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And we have seen
that just explode in the
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last few years. Now
i want a book on the
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screen and there
it is right on target
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The truth about witchcraft today
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is a popular book
and there you see on the
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front cover a very
slicky looking young lady
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and that is the
face of witchcraft today
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it's not a dark
sinners took face
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that's right, its very bright,
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its a friendly face and
that's one of the reason
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why witchcraft is growing now
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there is another
book and i want to just
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mentioned briefly and
then actually read if you think
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fragment i mean
it do something that
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often is not done on
Christian television,
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but we'll do it,
we are going to do it
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for reason and I'll
make that clear and the book
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there is called
teen witch wake up for a
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new generation
it's one of many books
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that are targetting
young people to get them
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involve in witchcraft.
I've got the particular book
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right here and its, its
fascinating David to see
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just a few other
things that are actualy
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in this book I
related that book this book
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is a mother of four is
she useb to be a Baptist.
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Formal Baptist,
formal Baptit and she became
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witch, she is a
mom a mother of four
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and she has a section
in her book here teenwitch,
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the title there it
says this little lap of mine
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I'm get to let it
shine. You can see some of her
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Christian background you know,
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and what she does here she lists
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a series of
bullets, a series of things
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under the heading real
witches do not do these
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things and the first
thing she says a real witch is
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do not hurt people
physically, mentally,
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spiritually or magically
she says we are not trying
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to hurt anybody. We
don't take legal drugs,
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we do not work black
magic she is a promoter of
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what's called white
magic which is wicker
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a religion the practises
witchcraft or white magic
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she says that we do
not she says we don't fly
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in the sky on broomsticks,
and we buy cars and trucks
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and stay on the road
and just like everybody else
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if we feel the knee
to take to the skies
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we choose Delta
Northwestern or American
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airlines, she has
got a sense of humor
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we don't need
babies we love babies
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we want them to grow
up to make them strong
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and do good thing for
people like hopefully find
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cure of aids or
cancer we don't kill animals
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we have big pet
people, we had dogs and cats
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gerbils bunnies
etc. and they all live
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long happy lives and
they see the wet regularly
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we don't tell fibs
or pigs whopper lives
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we don't get into
the sexual provisions,
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we don't drink or use
blood in anyway from animals
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or from ourselves or
from any person alive or dead.
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Now some people
and they called do this
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that those that are
generally in the wickened
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stream which is the
most popular she says,
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we don't do anything like this.
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we don't change hair
color in the blinking of eye
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we go to the grocery
store and buy hair dryer
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hair dye to cover the
great just like your mother does
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she says we don't
steal, we don't take part
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in any criminal
behaviour we don't semen demons
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and we don't believe in satan.
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These are some of
the teachings of this
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particular lady and
there is a lot of books
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like this that you
know, promote these things
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and say look we are
not we are not into the
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dark stuff, we are
not into the black magic,
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that's right, that's
right, we were into witchcraft
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and we are trying to
stand for good things.
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and I want to I don't
think it's unfair for us
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as Christians to acknowledge
you know, that there are
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some things
that people out there
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to get into this
standup for that are not
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that are not
Evil. And many of them
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are not even
people, they are trying to
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you know, find spiritual path
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they may live
right next door to you,
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they may be relatives of yours,
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they maybe your boss
or someone that you know
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closely. I know someone
that just minds me of reading
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through this book
there is someone that i know
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that was one of our
school she was a nice young lady
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very engaging,
positive personality,
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but she was involve a
wicker her mom her broad into in
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and when you
meet her face to face
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you would think this is
a very seguin individual,
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a very bright
happy individual the kids
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loved her and so
this is almost a make over
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I would say a witchcraft
into the 24th century.
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That's right, its
witchcraft with a new face
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that is the face
that is being presented
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by this book and
by many other books
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and I want to make
very clear as i just read
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those things that
I am very concerned
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that there is a dark
side behind even white magic
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which these people
actually themselves
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don't really
understand, they are promoting
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wicker with Ishmael
with a friendly face
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and when I read my
Bible and I want to make this
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very clear that
according this book
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it is really Satan with Ismail.
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There is a dark side
and that's we are going
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to talk out
today. There is dark side
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of wicker and in spite of
the fact that many of them
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are standing up for good things,
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they believe in the environment
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helping environment,
they are wickened charities
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that are
springing up have a friend
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she said to me not too longer
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or she said my
aunt is the wicken
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and she said she
is my favorite aunt
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and she said I love her to death
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she is a wonderful
person and nice person
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I don't agree
with what she is doing
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but she is really a nice lady
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and I think that it's
fair for Christian to do
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to realize that
there are many people
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out there, they
are getting into this
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that you know,
think they are getting
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into something that's
good and friendly and positive
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and they are
doing the best they can
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but what we are
here to do is to share
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that there is dark side
that they don't understand
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themselves. And
that side is a very,
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very real and very dangerous
and we here on three ABN
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on this program
we don't promote any
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kind of witchcraft
or sorcery or magic
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and that includes
black magic and also include
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white magic,
because white magic in fact,
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is even more
dangerous, because it presents
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itself as being
friendly where as underneath it.
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There are spiritual
forces that are out to destroy
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people that get
involved in this and we are here
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to sound a volume. So
there is a lot of people
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like your saying that are
sincere that are evidently
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involved in society
promoting the good will
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society and like this
book mentioned, but your saying
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that there is a danger
behind this and that's what
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this program is all
about saying that hey,
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you dabling something
that you don't know yourself
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about and we are not out
to bash witches like you said
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in the first book, but
we are here as a warning
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from the word of God
showing that there is
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power beyond this that
is take you down a role
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that you may not
want to go later.
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That's exactly
right one of the reasons
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why witchcraft is
growing wicked is growing,
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because they
say it's white magic
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which means they are
trying to cast good spouse
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not bad spouse
they are not practising
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black magic only white
magic that's what they believe
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that's their line
that's what their promoting
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but the truth is this
book the Bible doesn't
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differentiate between
black magic and white magic
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it says that all
magic, all witchcraft,
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all spells, all sorcery are all
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door ways to the
demonic and they all
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extremely
dangerous. Now when if you have
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the Bible out there I
would like to direct you
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to the book Galatians
chapter 5 we have looked
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in the past in this
series we've looked at the book
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book of exodus
and seen the battle
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between God and the magicians
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at the time of
Moses we've seen in the
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book of Axe, we've seen
in the book of revelation
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sorcer is going
into the lake of fire.
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We've seen in Daniel
chapter 2 the weakness
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the magicians or the
sorceres of the Babylon
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who couldn't understand
the dream that was given
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to kind Nebakanezer,
but Daniel could because
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he had a connection with
God and now we are going to
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look galatians
chapter 5, we have Paul talks
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about the battle, he
talks about a struggle
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and that's what this program
is called battles of faith.
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And there is a
battle and it's right here
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in the Bible. In
Galatians chapter 5
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verse 16 well Paul
says this I say then,
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walk in the Spirit, and
ye shall not fulfill the lust
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of the flesh. For the
flesh lusted against the Spirit,
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and the Spirit
against the flesh:
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and these are
contrary the one to the other.
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So here it's drawing a
line and it says there was the
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flesh on the one side
and there is the Holy Spirit
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on the other side
and these two are at adds
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there is a
conflict, there is a clash
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it says they are
against each other
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and the flesh is
something that we all
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we've been born
with as cute as your baby
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as your kids are and
less they are born from above
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we are just
naturally born of the flesh.
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And the flesh is really
like a term in the that we are
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who just going the
natural way just going the way
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of your heart, doing
what your flesh your natural
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desires want to do and
the reason why its called
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of the flesh is
because the sinful
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natural human
nature tense downward
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like a rive down
stream its the pull down
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i have a garden,
I've recently gardening
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to in. It's restful
for me to go out and plant
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some peas and some tomatoes
and we've got some squash
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growing and some
lettuce, and my 2-year-old,
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he just love to take a
seed and stick it in the ground
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he could the
excite the plant to see
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and there are so
many lessons from gardens
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and from seeds and
big lesson is that if you
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don't do anything
the seeds can't grow up
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you know, you have
to cultivate the soil
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but if you do nothing
those who greed's we've just
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grow and they'll take
over and that the way the
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flesh is that's the way
the natural human tendency is
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and its interesting
more than interesting its
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significant and
its life changing
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to go down in Galatians
5 and to look at the list
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of what are the
works of the flesh
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and let's take a
look at this Galatians 5
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Paul specifically
says the works of the flesh
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are these here they are
they are manifest which are
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adultery no 1, fonication no 2,
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that sex outside of
marriage uncleanness no 3,
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less
lasciviousness or just a loose
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lustful way of living
and then verse 20 says
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idolatry putting the head of God
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and then what's the
next word as listed there
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sorcery, that's right.
Okay your Bible says sorcery
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mine says
witchcraft. Galatians 5:20
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says witchcraft.
Now it doesn't say
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just black
witchcraft, it doesn't say only
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dark witchcraft, it
just says witchcraft.
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The Bible doesn't
say there is white magic
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white is okay and there
is black magic which you need
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stay away from.
Bible doesn't say that
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those who are enter
witchcraft into wicker
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they say that, but
the Bible doesn't say that
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the Bible says
witchcraft itself is a work of
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the flesh. And
then it lists other
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works of the flesh I hatred
and that's interesting too
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hatred if you have witches
that's the work of the glesh
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we don't want to be involved
witchcraft that we don't
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want to hate them witches either
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you know we need to
recognize their people
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they are human
beings and many of them are
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trying to do many right things.
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and its not sin
to acknowledge that
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to be fair, but we
need to point out the danger
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and that's what we are
doing right here, its not the
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people its the craft
itself witchcraft and then it
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goes on and lists okay
hatred variance emulations
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wrath strive editions heiresses.
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that heiresses
that's another term
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did you know that there
are code uncode Christians
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that are
practicing witchcraft they are
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christian
witches out there today
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Its a whole growing
movement are people that
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are trying to
integrate Christianity the craft
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together. The
Bible says don't do that
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its all a work of the
flesh and then it should
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keep going and this
is the very solegn part
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Paul continues and
says he mentions in these
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murders drunken these
reviling and such like
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of which i tell you
before as I've also talk you
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in time past that
they which do such things
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shall not inherit
the kingdom of God.
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This is a solegn
text Paul is very clear
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witchcraft is
the work of the flesh
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and those that are
doing it. Paul says will not
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inherit the kingdom
of God. So we are dealing
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with the life and death
matter and it doesn't matter
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how friendly of a face
you know, witches put on
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the people maybe nice
not smoking, not drinking,
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not getting in
the sexual provisions
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you know, this is
these are good things,
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but when it comes to
practicing witchcraft
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itself doing their witchuals
and preparing their portions
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and practicing their
magic and drawing their circles
00:16:05.61\00:16:08.16
and whatever they do
and summoning the spirits
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that they summon in
their visuals this is a real
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danger and the Bible
refers to the whole category
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of witchcraft as a work
of flesh which means that
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it tense downward.
Many people get into
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what they consider
to be white witchcraft,
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but it doesn't take long
David it doesn't take long
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until they start moving
in an area that gets darker
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and darker, and darker,
and darker, and they have
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no, they have no
protection against these things.
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I read an article some
time ago call protection magic,
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where the people
that are into witchcraft
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or discussing how some
times they feel dark forces
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coming over their
lives and harassing them and
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they hear voices
in their heads and
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they you know, they have
to deal with these things
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and they
struggle with these things
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and they think what do we do
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and the article that I
read says one way to deal with
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by laughing have
a positive attitude
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think good thoughts and
the other option was to cast
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a good spell
against the negative forces
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you know, and this
what they are trying
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to accomplish, but they
don't realize that you can't
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you can't fight Evil with Evil
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witchcraft itself
is a work of the flesh.
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itself tense downward
and the more you get involved
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in it even though you
think its a friendly face.
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and you start thinking
your practicing white magic
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it will belong into
forces move in and take control
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and pull you down.
And that's what God is
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warning about
here and its very clear
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it is the work of the
flesh and those who do it
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will not inherit
the kingdom of God.
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So it seems like if i
am understand you correct
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after this point
Paul delineate that
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there is two entities
within our human nature.
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That the flesh and the Spirit
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and these are owns with
one and another and then
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he defines what specifically
is the works of the flesh
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and one of those is
witchcraft and categorically
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it doesn't matter
well there is white magic
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doesn't matter
whether dark magic
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dark witchcraft
or white witchcraft
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it says categorically.
This is the work of the flesh
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and if you engaging this
you will lose your salvation
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you will inherit
the kingdom of God.
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That's right to call at
white magic is a deceptive
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distinction, its a
deceptive distinction.
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Now in verse 22,
Paul gives the other side
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and he says the fruit of Spirit
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and this is the Holy Spirit.
It is love, joy, it is peace,
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it is longsuffering,
gentleness, goodness, faith,
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meekness,
temperance or self control
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the contrast, that's
right. And so you have the flesh
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that goes whoever it
wants to go which pulls down
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ultimately and then
you've got the Holy Spirit
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that lifts us up
and that is full of love
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and joy and peace. I
have a personal friend
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of mine we keep in
touch fairly regularly
00:19:02.06\00:19:05.42
and her name is Pam and
she has quite a testimony
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she grow up in the
church and then she got involved
00:19:08.64\00:19:13.70
in witchcraft, she felt the pull
00:19:13.73\00:19:15.87
to get into the
craft and she did it,
00:19:15.90\00:19:18.54
and she emailed me
and emailed some time ago
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where she tells, she told
me her story and its quite
00:19:21.59\00:19:25.88
amazing she says here
that she was a wiccan.
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She had the books
the warned, the cauldron
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the candles the
alter of the jewellery,
00:19:31.84\00:19:33.78
the ruins every thing
1000s of dollars worth
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of witchcraft paraphernalia,
that she was very deeply
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involved in she said
i think most people are
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attracted to wake up for
the same reason then I was
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the needful
power and that's what
00:19:44.10\00:19:46.52
we've talked about
the appeal of power
00:19:46.55\00:19:48.43
and then she says
they needful power
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to protect yourself,
but also they need to
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worship and the
special the need to belong
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the need to belong is
great. And so she got into
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for those
reasons and then she says
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the insidious part is
that when you get involved
00:19:59.04\00:20:02.08
in witchcraft the
power is actually taken away.
00:20:02.11\00:20:05.85
And the protection
that you think your
00:20:05.88\00:20:08.09
getting is all
facade. It's an conclusion,
00:20:08.12\00:20:10.89
it's a deception wicked
it's not a game to play yet.
00:20:11.53\00:20:14.62
It is pure, witchcraft
and entirely of the devil.
00:20:15.16\00:20:18.23
There are some who
argue that there is
00:20:18.70\00:20:20.39
white or good
magic. And there is also
00:20:20.75\00:20:23.95
black or evil magic.
That's what the woman
00:20:23.98\00:20:26.63
who wrote that book
who left Christianity and
00:20:26.66\00:20:29.02
went into witchcraft.
That's what she says.
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And then my friend
Pam said this is not true.
00:20:31.69\00:20:33.79
All witchcraft, all
sorcery, all incantations,
00:20:34.42\00:20:37.34
all rights in
ceremonies that in both Gods and
00:20:37.37\00:20:39.56
Goddesses are evil, very
evil. I could always tell when
00:20:39.59\00:20:42.65
an evil presents was
coming over me it was like all
00:20:42.68\00:20:45.98
of the sudden my
thoughts become dark.
00:20:46.01\00:20:47.59
My emotions become
muted and I felt like
00:20:47.62\00:20:50.17
I was all powerful.
This was her experience
00:20:50.20\00:20:52.69
when the spirits of
they craft, God enter her,
00:20:52.72\00:20:55.91
it made her think that
she powerful, but she was
00:20:56.61\00:20:58.70
loosing her
emotions. And she being moved
00:20:58.73\00:21:02.02
into a direction of
darkness. And then she says that
00:21:02.05\00:21:05.37
they was a pretty amazing
chain of events that took
00:21:05.57\00:21:08.53
me from right out of
the missed of the witchcraft
00:21:08.56\00:21:12.05
to facing Jesus Christ had on.
00:21:12.34\00:21:14.09
And then she says God's
hand has been on my life
00:21:14.52\00:21:16.80
for lot of years,
but I had no clue.
00:21:16.83\00:21:18.94
And then as we discuss
the two of us, all these
00:21:19.82\00:21:22.45
TV programs that are
promoting witchcraft is a
00:21:22.48\00:21:24.44
positive thing,
these books that are
00:21:24.47\00:21:25.95
making witchcraft
look like, you know, cool
00:21:26.36\00:21:29.01
chick woman with a
smile and professional lady
00:21:29.41\00:21:31.59
like we showed
that, couple a while ago,
00:21:31.62\00:21:33.58
then Pam responded
to this and she said
00:21:34.82\00:21:37.56
it overwhelms me.
All these kids being
00:21:38.26\00:21:40.61
sucked into the devils
hands. He must be delighted,
00:21:40.88\00:21:43.16
they are like lambs
going to this slaughter.
00:21:43.57\00:21:46.93
Wow! Lambs being
let this slaughter
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Now here is a women
that knows she has been
00:21:49.63\00:21:52.54
there she is done that.
She thought that was a good
00:21:52.57\00:21:54.97
thing, she thought was a
friendly thing, she thought
00:21:55.00\00:21:57.07
that would be something
that in power for life,
00:21:57.10\00:21:58.91
but, she got in. She
got hooked and forces
00:21:59.70\00:22:03.20
got into her
that pulled her down.
00:22:03.23\00:22:06.40
Now she says here in the
final parts of this email.
00:22:06.43\00:22:08.79
She said it hasn't
then more than a few weeks
00:22:09.60\00:22:12.03
since I have absolutely
turn myself over to Christ.
00:22:12.06\00:22:15.35
It overwhelms me
when I think about
00:22:15.65\00:22:17.28
where I have been
and where I am now,
00:22:17.31\00:22:20.39
where I am now.
She learned what the
00:22:20.73\00:22:22.76
Bible says in
Galatians 5 about the dangers of
00:22:22.79\00:22:27.41
witchcraft. That it is
work of the flesh and those that
00:22:27.44\00:22:31.20
do it will not be in the
kingdom of God. She learned
00:22:31.23\00:22:34.73
verse 22 the truth of the
Holy Spirit is love and joy
00:22:34.76\00:22:37.28
and peace and she found a
love and peace in her life.
00:22:37.54\00:22:40.14
When she
surrounded her heart to God.
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That it just is an
available in witchcraft.
00:22:42.25\00:22:44.16
It's just not there, you
know a lot of the people are
00:22:44.19\00:22:47.84
friendly people, but has he
get in if you think about it
00:22:47.87\00:22:51.89
or has they get into
it. I've never been into it.
00:22:52.52\00:22:56.51
I don't need to get
into it to check it out.
00:22:56.78\00:22:59.07
We don't need to experiment
and double with these kind
00:22:59.10\00:23:01.89
of things to find out.
Some people who get in,
00:23:01.92\00:23:04.04
many people never get
out. And I don't even want
00:23:04.07\00:23:06.16
to get started. I've
got a two-year-old boy,
00:23:06.19\00:23:08.13
when he gets old I don't
want him dabbling in this.
00:23:08.16\00:23:10.17
I don't want him
watching these programs that
00:23:10.58\00:23:12.37
promote witchcraft to
something cool and fun
00:23:12.40\00:23:14.47
and friendly for kids.
I don't want him reading
00:23:14.50\00:23:16.14
those books. I don't want him
being deceived by white magic.
00:23:16.17\00:23:18.94
I want him to read his Bible.
And to know what the Bible
00:23:19.16\00:23:21.10
says that all
witchcraft is work of the flesh.
00:23:21.13\00:23:23.37
It's dangerous stay of
it, or you'll lose your soul
00:23:23.40\00:23:26.17
because of it.
That's what the Bible says.
00:23:26.20\00:23:28.26
And then I want him
to know that God has
00:23:28.44\00:23:30.58
something better.
Something much more
00:23:30.61\00:23:34.31
positive and
powerful. And it is the power
00:23:34.34\00:23:36.62
of the Holy Spirit.
And that's where true love
00:23:36.65\00:23:39.51
joy and peace comes
in. And they really is just
00:23:39.79\00:23:43.24
not in the craft.
It's in the cross.
00:23:43.27\00:23:46.10
Peace and love is not
in the craft, it's in the
00:23:46.57\00:23:48.77
cross of Jesus
Christ. And my friend Pam
00:23:48.80\00:23:51.42
learned that by
experience she has been there,
00:23:51.45\00:23:53.70
she has done that.
She knows and we can
00:23:53.73\00:23:57.58
learn a lesson
from her experience.
00:23:57.61\00:23:59.67
I think there is a lot
of people out there that
00:24:00.01\00:24:01.71
want to have love,
joy, peace long suffering
00:24:02.35\00:24:05.24
all the attributes of
the spirit in there life and
00:24:05.27\00:24:07.23
the deception is with this
makeover of white witchcraft
00:24:07.26\00:24:10.73
is that is says hey.
If you double in white
00:24:10.76\00:24:13.48
witchcraft is more
inocuos it will give you joy,
00:24:13.51\00:24:16.52
it will give peace, it will
give all these bright things,
00:24:16.55\00:24:19.83
but as we seen in
illustration of Pam
00:24:19.86\00:24:21.95
she went into and expecting
one thing and found that
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it was the opposite side.
It was the Cornell nature.
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It was the flesh that
heal to; that's right;
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and that's the exception.
It feeds the flesh and I mean
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there is a certain
it's true there is a certain
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freedom, a sense
of freedom in doing
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whatever you want to
do. But, that freedom is
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ultimately an
illusion and it brings a person
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into bondage. I mean
in the garden of Eden
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what will be discussing
later on a different programs
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Satan said that if you
eat the forbidden fruit
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you won't die
and you will be God.
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You will be your own God.
You can do whatever you want.
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You know good and evil
and you will raised to a
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higher level of
experience try it, take a bit.
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That's what the circum
said and he thought hey
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that sounds good. Looks
good the Serpent looks nice,
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you know he is the
friendly looking Serpent
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he has the melodious voice.
He is smiling in the tree.
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And I think I will try
it. And she took a bit of that
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fruit and then her eyes
but instead of a raising
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to a higher state of
existence she realize that
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she was necked.
And she was in sin
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and a cool sense of
guilt kept over her soul
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and that was the beginning
of the all the problems
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That have ever hit to
planet earth, it all started
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right there with the
deception of the serpent and
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a woman trying to be her
own God. And that's really if
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you study witchcraft, I
mean that's what they teach.
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They teach us no death
and your God, your Goddess
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and you worship the
Goddess and there is sense of
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freedom there a certain sense.
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But it's not real. But
it's not real, it's not
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solid, it doesn't last and
it just you have no protection,
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no barrier so it just pulls
you right into the darkness
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and I can promise you
that what may start out to look
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white was slowly
get darker and darker
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and darker and
darker. Have another friend my
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name is Shay and
she told me that she was
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involved in witchcraft,
but she said it got darker,
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it got dark fast. And
that's why she got out.
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She said this is not for
me. You know now she in the
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light praise God the pure light.
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The pure light of
the lord Jesus Christ.
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Now the last few
seconds here Steve.
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We have talked about the
darkness and the dangerous
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of witchcraft now.
What about a person
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that wants to experience
the joy of the spirit?
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What could you tell to
them in the last few seconds
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we have on this the
program. Okay, sure we have read
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now Bible said in Galatians 5:22
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the scripture says the
fruit of the spirit is love.
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We need to make a chose
to turn from the darkness
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and to just pray and
ask God to come into your
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life's and to give us
the Holy Spirit and to bring
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his light. I remember
one time my little boy
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Seth was about, I
don't may be seven months old
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and he was in
middle of night crying,
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and crying, and
crying. And he wouldn't stop
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crying and I get off of
the bed and I grabbed him
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and I carried him around the
house and I was just you know
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talking and hoping he
would stop crying and finally
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I started singing a little song.
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I just saying for
God so loved the world
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that he gave his
only begotten son, for God
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so loved the world that
he gave his only begotten son
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as I saying this song
first of all he stop crying
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and second of all it just
and my heart was fluted with
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the sense of Gods
love. Love for my little boy
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for me and in giving his
own son to die for a Sins
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and that's the
choose we need to make.
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Turn from sin, open your heart,
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let Jesus and his
love come in your life.
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And that's will change
you because he loves you
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and he now loving
witchcraft like the
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love of Jesus Christ. Well
that out of time, thank you
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so much for sharing with
us today and it's my appeal to
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you as we go to the series
in Battles of Faith to give
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your life to Jesus Christ.
There is no power in this
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world, that can give
you that sense of peace.
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And it's a prayer
that you live by every word
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that proceeds
from the mouth of god.
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Join us again next time for
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another edition
of Battles of Faith.
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