Welcome to another
Edition of Bible Alive.
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Glad that you're with us
today because we have something
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so special. If you don't
understand it, it could be very
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dangerous to not only your life
but many other people's lives.
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We want to take that Bible and
make it practical and make it
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live in your hearts. Before we
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hmm hmm
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start I want to introduce
to you a friend of mine,
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Pastor Mark Howard.
Glad that you are with us
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today, Mark
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Yeh. We got a good show today
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It's going to be- it's going
to be interesting and it's a
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serious one.
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Yeh it really is, it really is,
serious issue in the World today
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a lot of people are aware of it
but they are not as aware of how
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big the problem is and
we are going to cover that
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OK
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That's great. Well let's get
started. Get your Bibles if you
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don't already have them and
I want you to turn those Bibles
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to 1st Samuel,
What is it? That's
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28
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Chapter 28
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Yeh
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OK
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1st Samuel Chapter
28 and uhm I think it
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starts in verse 3 uhm the title
of this or the little heading
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that I have in my Bible is
called Saul consults a medium
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hmm
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So I've a
question to ask you uhm
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and then we are going to
have prayer What is a medium?
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It's not like you've got the
front, the back and the middle
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is the medium?
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Nnn hmm that's right.
Well the medium is- is uhm in
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spiritualism which classical
definition of spiritualism is
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the belief that you can
communicate with the dead
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okay
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the medium is the go between
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okay
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the- the- the channel
through which communication with
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the dead is achieved.
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So obviously this title
here Saul consults a medium or
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someone that's a go-
between- between maybe Heaven
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the living and the dead
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Yeh Heaven and Hell or
whatever in the middle okay well
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good. Well let's get started
and Pastor would you have prayer
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for us?
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Absolutely. Our
Heavenly Father we are
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grateful for your Word
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hmm
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we thank you for the time we
have to study, we pray for the
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Holy Spirit to give us
understanding in a practical
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way in this story of
Saul and the witch of Endor.
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We ask it in Jesus Name. Amen
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Amen. okay so now Saul was the
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King of Israel
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that's right
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uhm he was the very first King
of Israel and uhm this is about
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the end of his life in Chapter
28 he- he's going to battle
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the
Phillistines, he goes to this
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Uhm hmm
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this witch uhm they
call her the witch of Endor.
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but Samuel has just
died, Samuel the Prophet who
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okay
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has guided Saul much of
his life, Uhm had been his
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Spiritual Advisor, even though
he didn't listen to him most
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of the time
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right
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and now Samuel has died and
Saul has been seeking the Lord
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you know, wanting- wanting
in essence, not really wanting
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to know God's will
but wanting God's approval
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yes that's-
there's a difference there
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yeah and so uhm Samuel
has died and Saul has tried to
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communicate with the Lord.
The Lord is not communicating
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with Saul you know the Bible
says that if we regard iniquity
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in the hearts- in our hearts
the Lord won't hear us uhm this
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was the situation with Saul
uhm God was waiting for Saul to
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repent, rather than repent he
figured well I am going to find
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my own way to communicate with-
with uhm somebody out there
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I am going to go
to the Prophet Samuel
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Yeh
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and since Samuel died he
figured the only way to do that
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is to go to a medium
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and
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that's where we are here
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did not
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in verse 3
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don't you think before we even
go uhm maybe a little further
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too that you'd think that with
the Israelites I mean we could
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go to into Leviticus,
I think Deuteronomy, it
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talks about spirits. That they
were an abomination in a uhm
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and if there was any type
of medium like this uhm people
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that uhm did this kind of
thing they were supposed to be-
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supposed to be put to death
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yeah
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I mean, that was
part of Israel's laws
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yeah in fact maybe
we ought to look at one
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okay
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one of those. I'll give
a couple references for our
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Viewers uhm that we won't go
to but it's all through God's
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instructions to his
people very, very strongly
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Yeh
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you see the nations
around them had been steeped in
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spiritualism and so Leviticus
19:31 is a warning against
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spiritualism Leviticus 20
verse 6 and verse 27 I believe
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Leviticus 20 verse 27 is
where God says specifically, you
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know some places it says
the person who involves himself
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in sorcery should be cut off
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yeah
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and we read that and we say
well he must of been sent- he
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sent him hiking
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right
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you know but here uhm you
know to send him away whatever
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but here in- in verse 27
Leviticus uhm 20 verse 27 I
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believe this is where it talks
about them actually being put
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to death just clarifying
what it means to be cut off from
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the people. Then Deuteronomy
18 maybe we'll look at that one
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Yeh let's
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that one is a little
bit more comprehensive
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okay so turn to-
to Deuteronomy 18
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18
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verse 9
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okay
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starting in verse 9 and there
are a few verses there that
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talk about the
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see my heading right there
uhm starting at verse 9 in my
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study Bible says,
"avoid wicked customs. "
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Uhm hmm
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so
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Yeh and these- these were the
customs of the nation. It says
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they're in verse 9
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and- and by the way just
for the- the Viewers, the word
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abomination in the- in the
Hebrew here means detestable
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act.
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that's right
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in other words, I mean, when
something's wrong it's wrong
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but when something is detestable
it's like worse than wrong
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yeah and when God calls
it abomination it's something
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that's very offensive to him
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yes okay
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a lot of these things are-
are almost synonymous but they-
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they're all asso- associated
with spiritualism and the occult
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right
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and these types of things and
uhm here it says, in verse 12
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wow!
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and I think we need to remember
that wasn't just then but
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it's also now because
witchcrafts, sorcery uhm a lot
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of entertainment today
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right
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we find entertainment in things
that God says are abominable
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to me and so we need to remember
they weren't just abominable
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to God then they are
also abominable to God now
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and there is a reason why that's
what we are going to find out
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and we're going to talk about it
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yeah yeah
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and- and it goes on to say
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verse 12
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in other words I'm sending these
people out of the land because
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of these things. Verse 14
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that means you're
going to take their place
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yes
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kick them out
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and so God is very explicit here
that any kind of spiritualism
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he does not find pleasure in
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okay
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and uhm
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and- and- and
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and what is spiritualism?
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again the
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I think people have different-
different definitions but
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what's- what's spiritualism?
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yeah the dic- the dictionary
definition, if you look it up
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in the dictionary it's the
belief that one can communicate
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with the dead
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okay pretty simple
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that's the
classic definition of it
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okay
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and so here is where
we find Saul in- in 1st
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Yeh now that dead is whether
you're- whether you're supposed
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to be in Hell or heaven?
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that's right
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I mean, that's what- the
majority of the people and they
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In other words
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and they all say you're
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There are people
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in Heaven or Hell
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or may be
purgatory which is in between
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There are those who don't
believe in a Heaven or Hell
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Right
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but they still believe
you can communicate with
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the dead
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okay
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they are not off a Christian
faith and then there are those
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of the Christian faith that
uhm you know whether they are
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in Heaven or Hell believe
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right
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that you can communicate
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okay
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and this is where Saul
was in verse 3 where it says
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well we see why because
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yeah
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we just read the- so Saul
as the King had put them out of
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the land but you go
to verse 4 and it says
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which was God's
really has a pointed way of
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right
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way of answering
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yeah
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the reason he wasn't answering
wasn't because Saul didn't
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decide to go another channel
you know another avenue like
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a medium, it was
because of his rebellion and
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Yeh
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Saul knew it. But Saul
didn't want to yield his will
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to God so- so he figured he
could come up with his own way
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what I like- what you said there
that I really like is that so
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often it happens with us
uhm Saul- Saul wasn't really
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inquiring of the Lord for
his will was for Saul, he just
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wanted the Lord's approval
to do what Saul wanted to do
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absolutely
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OK
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and so it says then at verse 7
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hmm
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Now she didn't
know he's Saul yet
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right
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notice Saul didn't see
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right
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but the woman saw
Samuel, she was the medium
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Saul
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now evidently the spirit
had communicated that to her and
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we will touch on
that a little bit more
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to Saul
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and uhm and so
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What a story?
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yeah
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and we're just- we're just
reading it and we get a lot- a
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we've got a lot of unpacking
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to do
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that's right
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but we're going to take a break
real quick. when we come back,
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be prepared to- to learn what's
going on, the very principles
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of why this subject
is so vitally important.
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So don't go away
because we'll be right back
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And you will hear of wars and
rumors of wars. See that you are
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not troubled for all these
things must come to pass. But
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the end is not yet. For nation
will rise against nation and
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Kingdom against Kingdom
and there will be famines,
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pestilence and earthquakes
in various places. All these are
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the beginning of sorrows.
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Men look to the lofty
and supposedly fireproofed
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buildings and said,
"They are perfectly safe. "
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But these buildings were
consumed as if made of pitch.
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The fire engines could do
nothing to stay the destruction.
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When Protestantism shall
stretch her hand across the
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Gulf to grasp the hand of
the Roman Power, when she shall
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reach over the abyss to clasp
hands with Spiritualism, then
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we may know
that the end is near.
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When we look around it's easy
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return and Satan is doing all
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Now the decision is in
your hands. Will you accept the
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challenge to become
part of God's Last Day Army?
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Equip yourself today.
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Last August, US Food
and Drug Administration
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Investigators found numerous
health violations such as
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rodents, seeping manure and even
maggots at two Iowa Egg Farms
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believed to be responsible
for as many as 1500 cases of
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Salmonella poisoning. Several
positive samples of Salmonella
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have been found at both Farms.
The FDA report blamed numerous
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potential causes such as live
flies and maggots too numerous
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to count, uncontained manure,
rodents and wild bird access to
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laying areas. Animal feces and
access to wildlife are normally
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the main concern of
Investigators looking for causes
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of an outbreak as illnesses
such as Salmonella originate
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from feces. Ken Koelkebeck,
an Extension Specialist with the
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University of Illinois
said, "What I hear described as
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violations are not really
specific to the two Farms only.
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This could happen on any
Farm. " And it probably does.
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God's counsel for the end of
time is clear. The Ministry of
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Healing, Page 320
says, "As disease in animals
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increases, the use of milk and
eggs will become more and more
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more unsafe. " I'm Hal Mayor
reminding you to keep the faith.
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I'm glad that you stayed with
us and before we get going Mark
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I just- I want to make an
offer here, I have a little Book
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that I wrote called Great
Expectations uhm I believe that
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this is so important that you
would understand it uhm whether
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you're watching for the first
time and you've never given
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your life to the Lord or whether
you have been a Christian
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for years and you really
don't understand this- a lot of
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Christians don't, they haven't
got into the Bible but this
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Great Expectations is free
uhm all you have to do is uhm
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get on our Internet site
uhm you can call, you can email
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us and uhm everything is on the
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is even more important is
that we made these little Books
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like this so that you can
get them out by the hundreds and
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we have bulk
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uhm hmm
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pricing uhm that's
what we need to do Pastor
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Yeh
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we want to give you a free
one but it's not just a free,
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we want to get
hundreds and thousands out
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Yeh
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people need to know this
important message and we'll be
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sharing more about that and
I think once you see it if you
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haven't I already,
you'll understand why it's so
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important now,
like the Lord said,
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"now is the time,
let's get it done, now. "
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yeah absolutely
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okay let's get back to
Saul with the witch of Endor.
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well you know, I- I believe
too Dwight and probably during
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the break I have other-
you have other Books too
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sure
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on the similar subject
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yes
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witchcraft and sorcery
and things like that uhm which
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leads me to uhm you know there
is a lot of spiritual influence
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today. we talk about witchcraft
sorcery, I mean one of the
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biggest sources is- is
Harry Potter and that series
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yeah
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which maybe we'll talk about
a little bit more in- uhm today
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or we're gonna
revisit the story again
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yes
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but
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and we haven't- we
have a holiday that's out,
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we might
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that's- that's Halloween.
I mean it's not a national
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holiday but it's a
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OK
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holiday and even Christians,
I mean think of it you've got
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headless horsemen, you've
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hmm
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got goblins, witches
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witches,
sorcerers and witchcraft
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everything
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and witchcraft it's all
about and- and you know a lot of
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people think it's innocent fun
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right
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you know, they're like we don't
worship demons or we are not
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in the occult, we are not
this or that but the reality is
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neither was Saul
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that's right
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you know and the thing is
it was still an abomination and
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the question I think we were
talking during the break and
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you said how- how is a person
to know as we read up- we read
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to the point where- where
this spirit medium, the witch of
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Endor conjures up this spirit
and she says that it's Samuel
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right
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how do we know that it wasn't?
was the question that we were
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discussing there.
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Yes because a lot of-
I talk a lot, people say
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it was truly Samuel but
you know there is- there is a
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number of places and I know
that you have a- a couple but
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the one thing is, if we go back
uhm a few chapters when Samuel
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was alive and he was the one
that was really the spokesperson
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in a way he was
the medium, if you
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nah
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think about it, he was between
God and- and man. He was the
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one that was working for God
to share with the King what he
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should or shouldn't do when
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that's right
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King Saul would say, "Samuel,
shall I go to battle or should
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I not?" They had the
Urim and the Thummim but,
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Saul did not...
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The greatest thing that Saul
did against the Lord was he was
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supposed to wait for Samuel
and they were going to have an
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altar with sacrifice and only
Samuel was supposed to do that
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but he was supposed- he
was going to come in 7 days and
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Saul was tested
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that's right
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when he didn't come uhm
when Samuel didn't come right at
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that time, Saul said, hey
I'm King, I mean I'll do it and
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that
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yeah
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was another thing that Saul
did wrong. He always took the
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matter into his own
hands and did not trust God
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that's right
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and at that point in time
Samuel left and never worked
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with Saul the King, again and
then he died so that's one great
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big thing. I mean, why would
Samuel - and why- and why in
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the World would some woman-
death was an abomination that
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they were supposed to kill,
how could she bring up Samuel?
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yeah
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you know, to talk to Saul when
God had already said, "Don't
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talk to him anymore. "
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yeah. Well, you know, there is
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pretty, pretty black and white
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that's right yeah uhm you
know the other thing is when we
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read about the witch of Endor
and she conjured up this spirit
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but of course
again Saul did not see it
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yeah
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only the other woman saw it
and when the woman conjured up
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this spirit she did- she says,
"I saw a man or a spirit coming
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out of the Earth
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yes
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you know a lot of- I've had
Christians who will take this
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and they'll say well
this- this teaches that you can
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communicate with the dead
up in Heaven or in Hell. Now if
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the woman sees Saul
coming up out of the Earth
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he wasn't in Heaven
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he wasn't in helen- Heaven
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yeah
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rather Samuel- well we know
Samuel was in Heaven. He was
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a Prophet of God, he was a
faithful Prophet of God and so
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a lot of times there are these
inconsistencies in the Bible,
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and people will just overlook
it so that they can hold on to
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yes
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what they want to believe
instead of letting the Bible
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clarify
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yes
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and you know one very
clear text is in 1st Chronicles
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Chapter 10 which uhm actually
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So, turn your Bibles to
1st Chronicles 10 another neat
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chapter which
talks about Saul so
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yeah and again the question
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1 st Chronicles 10 right
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1st Chronicles 10 verse 13
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OK
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You know how do we know
that this was not the spirit of
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Samuel? came- who came back to
visit uhm Saul. 1st Chronicles
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10 and verse
13, it tells us that
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Wow!
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that's pretty-
pretty- black and white
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Yeh and notice verse 14
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so he inquired the
medium but not of the Lord. Well
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Samuel was a Prophet of the
Lord. I mean it's just very very
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clearly there that this spirit,
this witch of Endor and this
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whole situation was not in
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assuming that
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communication with God
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right
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you know why would, you know
a- another question, a logical
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question asked is if a person
could live their life here and
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then die and to be accessed and
communicated with, for example
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I could live on this Earth
and I am- have all of these life
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experiences and then I die,
if you could contact me after my
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death and share I could with you
what I know in the afterlife,
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why wouldn't you do that?
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right
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why would that the abomination
to God? why would God be so
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offended with people trying to
communicate the dead if it was
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a good thing
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Yes. That's right and uhm
you know also on 13, showing how
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how bad, it says
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and uhm and I don't know what
your translation is but that
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word in the Hebrew,
committed means transgressed
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yeah
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so it's- it's- so it's-
its even stronger than the word
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committed. He- he- he
transgressed, he sinned
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against God by bringing up
that medium and like you said
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it was really Samuel, why in
the World would God be offended
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in bringing up
Samuel which is a godly man?
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yeah
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there is- there
is something there
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if- if the woman could have
brought him up, God would have
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had him in some way send
him which he didn't and anyway
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it's- it's clear that Samuel
or rather that Saul was being
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deceived here
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yeah now I've a question
00:22:00.99\00:22:01.96
yes
00:22:01.97\00:22:02.94
maybe I'm a little ahead of
myself but if it wasn't- if it
00:22:02.95\00:22:07.28
really wasn't Samuel, was
she just taking LSD or some
00:22:07.31\00:22:11.38
hallucinating drugs and she
just saw something that wasn't
00:22:11.41\00:22:14.00
there or did she
truly see- was there truly
00:22:14.03\00:22:16.37
a voice there? was
there something there?
00:22:16.40\00:22:18.40
well the spirit
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or something?
00:22:19.41\00:22:20.38
well the two things we wanna
look at, first of all, just very
00:22:20.39\00:22:21.88
briefly in- in John Chapter 11
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okay
00:22:25.70\00:22:26.67
uhm you have the story of
Lazarus and the raising of
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Lazarus from the dead and it's
interesting that when Lazarus
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died Jesus and some of the
Viewers may be familiar with
00:22:33.67\00:22:37.43
this some- many may not
be because of common accepted
00:22:37.46\00:22:40.22
uhm teachings today in
Christianity, we are going to
00:22:40.25\00:22:43.07
touch on this again in uhm
a follow-up episode but just
00:22:43.10\00:22:47.06
briefly here but when Lazarus
died Jesus comments on it in
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verse 11 John 11:
11 and uhm he- he says,
00:22:50.97\00:22:56.42
hmm
00:22:59.83\00:23:00.80
and in verse 12, it says
00:23:00.81\00:23:01.80
and what you have here in this
account is basically something
00:23:13.17\00:23:15.88
that's a consistent Bible
teaching that when a person
00:23:15.91\00:23:18.53
dies they don't go straight
to Heaven are they don't go
00:23:18.56\00:23:21.49
to Hell, the spirit doesn't
depart from the body, that's
00:23:21.52\00:23:24.47
Greek mythology
00:23:24.50\00:23:25.47
right
00:23:25.48\00:23:26.45
the idea the concept of dualism.
the biblical teaching is
00:23:26.46\00:23:28.72
that the person would rest
in the grave until Jesus comes
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again and so throughout the
New Testament, the New Testament
00:23:32.05\00:23:34.48
writers refer the Bible,
not only the New Testament uhm
00:23:34.51\00:23:37.56
but the Bible in- in many
places refers to death as a
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sleep
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okay
00:23:41.68\00:23:42.65
and uhm we don't have time
to go to all the passages but
00:23:42.66\00:23:44.32
one of the clearest passages
00:23:44.35\00:23:45.48
that's why I had to write
that Book, Great Expectations,
00:23:45.51\00:23:47.40
that little Booklet it
00:23:47.43\00:23:49.03
goes into that in detail
00:23:49.06\00:23:50.32
into it in detail because
we- we've only got less than 30
00:23:50.35\00:23:53.29
minutes to share, we are- we
are going to do a Part 2 of this
00:23:53.32\00:23:55.87
so you won't want
to miss that either but
00:23:55.90\00:23:56.92
right
00:23:56.95\00:23:57.92
but- but you need to get into
the Scriptures for yourself.
00:23:57.93\00:23:59.35
Don't just take our word or
your Pastor's word or somebody
00:23:59.38\00:24:02.89
else's word, make sure that
you dig into those Scriptures.
00:24:02.92\00:24:05.08
that's why God has given each
one of us a brain, and he sends
00:24:05.11\00:24:08.39
the Holy Spirit if we are
open so make sure that you check
00:24:08.42\00:24:10.59
this out.
00:24:10.62\00:24:11.59
That's right
00:24:11.60\00:24:12.57
What text?
00:24:12.58\00:24:13.55
Ecclesiastes Chapter 9
00:24:13.56\00:24:14.53
okay
00:24:14.54\00:24:15.51
verses 5 and 6 and uhm we
won't- we don't have time to go
00:24:15.52\00:24:19.08
into all the passages on death
but this is probably one of
00:24:19.11\00:24:21.29
the plainest ones
00:24:21.32\00:24:22.29
yes
00:24:22.30\00:24:23.27
in all the Bible
00:24:23.28\00:24:24.25
So- so Ecclesiastes, what again?
00:24:24.26\00:24:25.23
Ecclesiastes 9,
00:24:25.24\00:24:26.21
okay
00:24:26.22\00:24:27.19
verses 5 and 6
00:24:27.20\00:24:28.17
okay
00:24:28.18\00:24:29.15
it's after the Book of
Psalms and Proverbs, you come to
00:24:29.16\00:24:30.13
Ecclesiastes. it says
00:24:30.14\00:24:31.85
nothing
00:24:35.15\00:24:36.17
uhm it- that
means their own memory
00:24:40.65\00:24:43.03
Yeh
00:24:43.06\00:24:44.03
not the memory that...
we have memory of the dead
00:24:44.04\00:24:45.17
right
00:24:45.20\00:24:46.17
that was gone before but
there- in other words thinking
00:24:46.18\00:24:47.66
uhm once a person's dead
00:24:47.69\00:24:49.53
well, the Bible simply saying
that- when they're dead they're
00:24:56.51\00:24:59.23
dead
00:24:59.26\00:25:00.23
right
00:25:00.24\00:25:01.21
there in the grave,
they are unconscious
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like an unconsciousness
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asleep
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yeah yeah
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okay
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that's what Jesus said that
Lazarus sleeps and they said
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well, if he sleeps he is
gonna get- in other words they
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didn't understand what he
was saying, he was trying to get
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something across to them
that he's sleeping, it's like a
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sleep, you know when I go
to sleep at night, I wake up in
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the morning, I don't wake up
in between I think. Man! It went
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so fast.
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Right
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I went to bed at 9
o'clock, woke up at 6 o'clock
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or whatever, it was like this
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exactly
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and so there's no- there's
no thought, it's just bang bang
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you know, just
like a blink of an eye
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that's right and- and so what
we want to do is we want to go
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to the Book of Revelation now
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OK. Revelation and what Chapter?
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and we are going to Chapter 16
verses 13 and 14 because you'd
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asked if this wasn't uhm Samuel
then what are we con- you know
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if it wasn't
the spirit of Samuel
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right
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that was the woman just
hallucinating. Well, if the
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dead are dead and in the
grave and Samuel's in the grave,
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who might she have seen? Look
at what it says in Revelation
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16 verses 13, 14
especially about the end of time
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okay
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and the last days.
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okay
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it says
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so there is a powerful
deception going on here
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yes
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not hallucinations but the
spirit of demons impersonating
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the dead
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yeah and- and then
remember and- and is it in
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Thessalonians where that
even the devil himself will
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impersonate like- really
Christ in the end, that's why it
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says, "when there is false, when
there is people- say claim that
00:26:36.06\00:26:38.55
are Christ, don't even go there
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that's right
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it says that- that- that
the devil will impersonate even
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an Angel of Light" which means,
the devil himself is going to
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impersonate Christ or a-
a beautiful angel of Heaven
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that's right
00:26:51.18\00:26:52.15
so in other words these demons
certainly can impersonate,
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that's why- I think we are
going to have to close this show
00:26:55.37\00:26:58.50
and we'll start again but
we can leave it off at- at the
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point that, in the end,
how do you know what's what?
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yeah
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and that's what we want
to talk on the next show. but
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Yeah
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what is in the end? I mean-
I mean if- if the devil can
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impersonate Jesus
Christ or an Angel of Light,
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how are you going to
know? How are you going to know?
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Only by the Scripture
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and we'll get
into that next week
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but one thing that we know
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OK
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for sure is, we don't want
to have any kind of association
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with spiritualism
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no
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it's not biblical
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absolutely
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It's not for
Christians. It's not for anybody
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if they wanna be safe, it's an
avenue the devil works through
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It does. So, until next time,
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