Hello, I just
want to welcome you
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to the Adventist
Virtual Global Camp Meeting.
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I'm Jill Morikone, and
we're so delighted that
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you have joined us.
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This is an exciting camp meeting
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where the world
church gathers together.
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There's so many seminar tracks
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and presentations
from Biblical scholars,
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teachers, preachers
from all over the world.
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So what a blessing
it's been for us already.
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And this is 3ABN's
Live Bible Q and A.
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That's right.
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We're taking
your Bible questions
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for the next hour.
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So if you see the chat at
the bottom of your screen,
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and you have a
question that you would like
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answered by
Pastor John Lomacang,
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or Sister Shelley Quinn,
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or Pastor Ryan Day,
or Pastor John Dinzey,
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now is your opportunity.
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So jump on that chat right now
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and type in your question,
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and we will get to
as many as those...
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many of those questions as
we can during the next hour.
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I introduced briefly the panel,
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but I want to go back
and do a better job of it.
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To my left is
Pastor John Lomacang,
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my pastor, pastor
of the Thompsonville
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Seventh-day Adventist Church
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and Director of
World Evangelism.
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Yes.
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And we're
enjoying General Conference
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this camp meeting or
this global camp meeting.
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It's been a blessing
and this program promises
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to be a blessing also.
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Thank you for the
opportunity. Amen.
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Tell me, Pastor John,
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why do you like
studying the Word of God?
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I'm always learning.
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I'm like a doctor or physician.
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I'm always practicing God's Word
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because it's so deep.
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It's like an
ocean with no bottom.
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The more you
dive into God's Word,
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you get to another layer,
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where you realize
what you thought you knew
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becomes even more clearer.
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Amen. That's beautiful.
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To your left, my
sister Shelley Quinn,
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who is 3ABN New Program
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Development
Manager and Producer.
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And thank you for
being here, Shelley.
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It's wonderful to be here.
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And I love getting
into the Word of God
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because it changes me.
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Amen.
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To your left Pastor Ryan Day,
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part of the 3ABN
Pastoral Department
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and brother in Jesus,
and student of the Word.
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I'm glad you're here. Amen.
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It's always a blessing to be
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a part of the
Bible Q and A panel.
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And I just love the Word of God.
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I just love answering questions
so send in those questions.
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Amen. That's right.
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To your left, last but not least
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at the end of the panel here,
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we have Pastor John Dinzey,
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who of course is
the General Manager
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of 3ABN Latino,
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and a wonderful
student of the Word as well.
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It's a joy and a blessing
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and a privilege to be here also.
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And I'm looking forward to
seeing how God is going to use
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each and every one.
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You know God does
something marvelous
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because He says that the
Holy Spirit will guide us
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into all truth and this is
what we're praying for today.
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Amen. Thank you so much.
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So just
encourage you one more time
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to chat in your
questions that would be
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at the bottom of
your screen there.
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There should be a chat button.
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Just click on that and
type in your Bible questions
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for the panel here.
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We all work
together here at 3ABN.
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We're on this 3ABN
Sabbath School Panel.
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You might recognize the
desk that we're sitting out here
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because this is our
3ABN Sabbath School Panel,
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but a little
different background
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with the LED wall
but the desk is the same.
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And we also are together
on the 3ABN Bible Q and A,
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so any of those programs
are available on YouTube.
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You can watch them
on demand at any time
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or you can go to
our newest platform
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that's 3abnplus.tv
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That address
again is 3abnplus.tv
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and all of those programs
will be available on demand.
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Let's jump right
in with the questions.
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Before we do, we
always like to open up
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with a word of prayer.
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And Pastor John
Dinzey, would you pray for us?
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Sure. Let's pray together.
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Our loving Heavenly Father,
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we come before
You in Jesus' name.
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And we thank You so much,
Lord, for the Holy Scriptures.
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We thank You, Lord,
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that they are a
light unto our path.
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And we ask for Your Holy Spirit
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that we may rightly
divide the Word of Truth.
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We pray, Lord, that
as we share together,
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we will be
drawn closer to Jesus.
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We pray that for Your blessing
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also to be upon all
those that will be watching
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or listening in different ways.
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And we ask You, Lord,
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to give us a blessed
experience in Jesus' name.
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Amen. Amen.
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We're going to
Pastor Ryan first.
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All right.
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This comes from Morris,
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who is from Danville, Virginia.
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And he says, "My question is
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what are the
Seventh-day Adventists?"
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So maybe for someone
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who's watching
right now who's tuned in
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who's not a
Seventh-day Adventists,
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or not sure what that means
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or you're trying to
explain that to your neighbor,
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who are Seventh-day Adventists?
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Amen. That's a great question.
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In fact, pray for
that clock right now
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because I could
go on hour on this.
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The Seventh-day Adventist,
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many people
might call it a church.
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But I want to
correct and say that
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we are a worldwide
mission driven movement.
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The Seventh-day
Adventist movement
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is what I like
to refer to it as.
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Even though we are a
part of God's remnant church,
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you know, God has
people all over the world.
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And so the Seventh-day
Adventist in our very name,
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it testifies to who we are.
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We are a
commandment keeping people.
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Right there in Revelation 12:17,
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it says, "In the last days
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that the enemy
is going to go out
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and make war with God's people,
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a commandment keeping people
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that they keep the
commandments of God
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and have the
testimony of Jesus Christ."
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And we know that to be talking
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about God's last
day remnant church
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because a woman
in Bible prophecy
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represents a church.
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And so God's last
day remnant people
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will be a
commandment keeping people.
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And so when you read that
name, Seventh-day Adventist,
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the seventh-day, of course,
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points to the fact
that we believe in keeping
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all of God's Commandments,
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including the
Fourth Commandment.
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Especially the
Fourth Commandment
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because God said,
"Remember it," right?
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And we are a
people who believe in
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keeping all the
Ten Commandments,
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but we also
believe in upholding that
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Fourth Commandment
which says, "Remember."
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And, of course, we
live in a world today
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where many people
have forgotten that,
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but as God's last day
remnant church movement,
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we are upholding all
the Ten Commandments,
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including the
seventh day Sabbath.
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It points back to
God's creative work
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when He established
the Sabbath at creation.
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Also, the fact
Seventh-day Adventist means that
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you are a people.
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It's talking about a
people who are looking forward
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to the soon
return of Jesus Christ.
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So actually, you could
be a Baptist Adventist,
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you could be a
Pentecostal Adventist,
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you could be a
Presbyterian Adventist.
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Anyone who is looking forward
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to the soon coming of
Jesus Christ is an Adventist.
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We are Seventh-day Adventists,
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which means we believe that
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we are people that God
has called in these last days.
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God has raised
up for the purpose
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of finishing His work
to proclaim the message,
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the everlasting gospel
of Christ is found there
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in the three angels'
messages of Revelation 14:6-12.
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Three angels'
messages that are going to
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the entire world
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and if you are a part of
that last day remnant movement,
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then you will
proclaim that message as well.
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And so, yes, I believe that
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the Seventh-day Adventist Church
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is a church movement
that has been raised up
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for the purpose of
co-laboring with the Lord
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in these last days
to restore His name,
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to restore His
character, to restore His law
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and His sanctuary
message in these last days,
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pointing people
back to the risen Savior,
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our Lord and
Savior, Jesus Christ.
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That's a very juiced version,
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but I'm sure my
brothers and sisters would like
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to add something to that.
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I know Pastor
Lomacang down there...
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Come on, brother.
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I think you did
an excellent job.
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Absolutely. Amen.
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But let me also...
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Just the only
thing I'm going to add
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is the word Adventist
means we're looking forward
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to the visible literal
Second Coming of Jesus.
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Yes, audible.
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Audible, literal, visible,
not going to be a secret.
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The Lord is not going to make
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the most important
event of the ages a secret.
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Amen. Absolutely.
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That's powerful.
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Doesn't that make you
grateful and thankful to be
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a Seventh-day
Adventist Christian
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in these last days
of earth's history?
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What a privilege.
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Pastor John,
we're coming to you.
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Okay.
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Mark 13:32 says,
"No one knows not even
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the Son of God
when Jesus is returning.
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Would it be a lie to say that
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the Son who is
God does not know?"
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Very good question,
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but let me also
make it clear that
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when that statement was made
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when Jesus made that statement,
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He was talking about
His condescended knowledge.
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The Bible makes it
clear in Galatians 4:4,
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when the
fullness of time had come,
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God sent forth His
Son born of a woman,
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born under the law.
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Born of a woman simply meant
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He came into the
world in human flesh,
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and that human flesh
came with limitations.
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The reason for Jesus to be
able to face in the way that
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we would overcome the
way that we have to is
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because He couldn't
have any advantages over us.
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Any advantages at all would say,
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"Well, we can't overcome sin
because Jesus used His divine,
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His preexisting divine powers."
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So in the human form,
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He had to learn
as He went along.
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So in the condescended form,
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and His earthly humanity,
He said, "I don't know.
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My father does,
but I don't know.
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The angels don't
know but I don't know."
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However, when Jesus
rose when He was victorious,
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He made a
statement in Matthew 28:18.
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He says, "All authority has been
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given to Me in
heaven and in earth."
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Now, what does
all authority mean?
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Does all authority means, well,
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you've given all authority,
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but just going to
take you that part.
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Now the reason why I know
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He knows is because Revelation
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is the revelation of Jesus.
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Revelation 22:12, says,
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"And behold, I
am coming quickly,
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and my reward is with me
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to give to everyone
according to his work."
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Here's the key.
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How could Jesus say
I am coming quickly,
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if I don't know
when I'm returning?
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When Jesus was
victorious over death,
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when Jesus was restored,
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add to that sinless perfect,
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divine sense,
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He knew everything.
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As Isaiah 46:9-10 said,
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"I'm able to declare
the end from the beginning."
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He says, "I'm the
Alpha and the Omega,
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the beginning and the
end, the first and the last."
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How would He not
know when He's returning?
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To say I'm coming quickly
means I know when that is.
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Yes, that's powerful.
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Thank you.
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We're coming to Shelley next,
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but I want to remind you
to chat in your questions
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to us right now.
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Just jump on the
bottom of your screen there
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and send any question,
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Bible question that you have
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for the 3ABN panel right now,
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and we will get to as
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many of those
questions as we can.
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Shelley, this is for you.
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"Why do other churches besides
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the Seventh-day
Adventist Church,
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believe that when you die
you go straight to heaven?"
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Oh, mercy, I grew
up believing that.
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I grew up being taught that.
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And I remember one
time I was writing a book,
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my sister would
call every evening
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and I'd read her a
chapter from the book.
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And as I'm reading along,
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I quoted John
5:28-29 where Jesus said,
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"All who are in their
graves will hear My voice
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and will come forth
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either to the
resurrection of righteousness,
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or to the
resurrection of condemnation."
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And I kept reading
it and my sister said,
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"Wait, whoa, back up,
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would you read
that scripture again?"
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So I read it, and she
said, "What do you mean?"
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She said, "What does He mean,
all who are in their graves?"
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And she became extremely upset.
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And she said, "I just
detest talking to you.
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You're always teaching me
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something that what I
believe was not true."
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And I told her,
"Go do a study on rest,
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sleeping, death
and the resurrection
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and you will believe."
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Well, she hung up on
me and six hours later,
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she called me
back understanding.
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Why do people believe,
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why do they ignore
all of the scriptures
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that say that death is a sleep?
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Jesus called death a sleep.
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Why do they...
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You know, it says
that the dead no nothing
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that there's no
knowledge in the grave.
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Let me tell you why.
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In 2 Corinthians 5:8, it says,
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"We are confident, yes,
well pleased rather to be
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absent from the body
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and to be
present with the Lord."
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That is the one scripture
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they will always quote,
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to say that as soon as you die,
you go on to be with the Lord.
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But let's back up and
look at this just a little.
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When Paul starts writing
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in 2 Corinthians Chapter 5,
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he says, "We know that
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if our earthly house,
this tent is destroyed,
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we have a building from God,
a house not made with hands,
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eternal in the heavens.
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For in this we groan
in this earthly tent,
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earnestly desiring to be
clothed with our habitation,
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which is from on high,
that's our glorified body."
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And he says, "If
indeed having been clothed,
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we shall not be found naked."
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Pay attention, "For we
who are in this tent groan,
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being burdened,
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not because we
want to be unclothed."
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So we're clothed.
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We're in a tent of flesh.
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We're unclothed that's what
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he was talking
about being naked.
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Then there's a third thing,
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"But further clothed that
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mortality may be
swallowed up by life."
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So in context, Paul is
talking about three conditions,
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being clothed
with our earthly flesh,
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being unclothed or naked,
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or being clothed with
our resurrected glory.
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Now, if we look at
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1 Corinthians 15:52,
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let's look here.
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The Bible says in
1 Corinthians 15:52,
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"In a moment, in
the twinkling of an eye,
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at the last trumpet..."
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When? This is
when Christ returns.
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"The trumpet will sound,
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the dead will be
raised incorruptible,
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and we shall be changed.
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For this corruptible
must put on incorruption.
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This mortal must
put on immortality."
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When? At the last trumpet.
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He says so when this corruptible
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has put on incorruption
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and this mortal
has put on immortality,
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then shall be brought to pass
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the saying that is written,
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"Death is
swallowed up in victory."
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What people don't
understand 1 Timothy 6:16 says,
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"God alone has
immortality at this time."
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We put on
immortality at the last trumpet,
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and then we will be
raised to live with Him.
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Amen. Thank you so much.
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Praise the Lord.
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Pastor John Dinzey,
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"What became of the
Jewish Church organization
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run by the then
priesthood leadership?"
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That is a good question.
You know, one of the...
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I had a
different question myself,
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which was what
happened to the Christian,
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the Jewish
Christians that became...
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The Jews that became Christians?
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That was a question
I have for some time.
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Did some research on that.
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But what became of
the church organization
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under the priest?
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They had a difficult time
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because of the fast
growth of the Christian church.
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You remember on
the day of Pentecost,
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how many were
baptized on that day?
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Three thousand. Three thousand.
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And there in the Book
of Acts, you can see that
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there's a phrase
there in Acts Chapter 2.
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It says, "And they were
added to the church daily
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such as should be saved."
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We need to see that today.
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People added to the church
daily such as should be saved.
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And let's go to Acts 6:7
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and see here a scripture
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that even tells
you about the priests.
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Some of them were being
converted to Christianity,
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the Christian belief.
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In Acts 6:7, it says,
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"Then the Word of
God spread and the number
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of the disciples
multiplied greatly in Jerusalem.
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And a great many of the priests
were obedient to the faith."
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So we see that
there was this struggle
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of the Christian Church growing
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and the Jewish faith
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having this challenge.
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Nevertheless,
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the Christians
suffer persecution
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from the Jewish people.
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The Jewish
Christians suffer persecution
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from the Jewish
people and from the Romans.
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And for a while,
the Romans didn't know
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what to do with
the Jewish Christians.
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They just thought it was
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another group of
the Jewish believers,
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like a splinter group of them.
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But these Jewish Christians,
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who are more evangelistic minded
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that they didn't
stay within their own,
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the confines of
the Jewish people.
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They were preaching
to Gentiles as well.
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So what happened to the
priesthood and all of them?
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They continued.
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When the destruction
of the temple took place,
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they didn't know what to do.
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How do we continue?
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And, of course, they
had to change their system
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of worship practice
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because they could
not sacrifice animals.
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The temple was in ruins.
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Today you have
many different groups
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among the Jews and
so that's another story.
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Amen. Thank you so much.
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We're going to
Pastor John Lomacang here.
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"Why do we hear so little
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on the 144,000
mentioned in Revelation?"
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This is from Gladis.
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Well, I don't know
why you hear so little
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because it may be who
and where you're hearing
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your sermons or where
you're hearing your messages.
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Revelation Chapter 7
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and Revelation Chapter 14
bring this group into view.
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Let's go ahead and
look at that very briefly,
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Revelation Chapter 7.
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Now, there are
varying views on the 144,000.
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Some believe
it's literal numbers,
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some believe it's
a symbolic number,
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some believe that
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both groups are
exactly the same,
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some believe that
they're distinctly different.
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I'll tell you what category
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I fit into and
why I feel that way.
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And I'd like to say this.
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I don't like to
feel a certain way.
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I like to make sure that
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what I'm concluding
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I could support it by Scripture.
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Now, when Revelation Chapter 7,
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sorry, let's go to
Revelation Chapter 7.
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We find Revelation 7:1-4.
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Now, this number is distinctly
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referred to right before
a major event takes place.
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Revelation 7:1,
"After these things,
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I saw four angels standing
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at the four
corners of the earth,
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holding the four
winds of the earth that
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the wind should
not blow on the earth,
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on the sea, or on any tree.
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Then I saw another
angel ascending from the east
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having the Seal
of the Living God.
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And he cried with a loud
voice to the four angels,
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to whom it was granted to
harm the earth and the sea."
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It says, "Do not harm the earth,
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the sea or the
trees, till we have sealed
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the servants of our
God on their foreheads."
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And some say,
"In their foreheads."
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And it says, and I
heard the number, verse 4
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says, "And I heard the number
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of those who were sealed
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144,000 of all the tribes
of the children of Israel."
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Let me pause right
there very briefly and say,
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what you find first,
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the first picture that's brought
00:19:32.30\00:19:33.64
into view is the 144,000,
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specifically of all the tribes
of the children of Israel.
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Now secondly, this is not
00:19:38.57\00:19:40.28
the literal
progenitors of the Hebrews
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and the Israelites
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and those who are Jews
during the time of Christ.
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Believing me, I believe
this is a spiritual number
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because the Apostle
Paul says in Romans 9:6,
00:19:53.19\00:19:56.02
"They that are of
Israel are not all Israel."
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And he said, "It's not that
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the Word of God
had taken no effect."
00:20:00.33\00:20:01.96
But he was saying,
00:20:02.00\00:20:03.33
"Don't think that
your national birth
00:20:03.37\00:20:05.13
automatically disposes you
00:20:05.17\00:20:06.84
or prepares you for being saved.
00:20:06.87\00:20:10.51
We know that
salvation is a spiritual act.
00:20:10.54\00:20:13.14
And if anybody's in
Christ, he is Abraham seed,
00:20:13.17\00:20:15.68
and heir
according to the promise."
00:20:15.71\00:20:17.05
Galatians 3 and also
Romans. So we see that...
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I believe this is
a spiritual group,
00:20:19.81\00:20:21.35
however, the
number is mentioned.
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And when the Bible talks about
00:20:23.69\00:20:25.02
the number then you find
the shift in the picture.
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In verse 9, look
at the distinction
00:20:27.36\00:20:29.36
between the two groups.
00:20:29.39\00:20:31.09
Verse 9 says,
"After these things,
00:20:31.13\00:20:33.46
I looked and
behold a great multitude
00:20:33.50\00:20:35.76
which no one could
number of all nations,
00:20:35.80\00:20:38.73
tribes, peoples and tongues,
00:20:38.77\00:20:40.40
standing before the throne
and before the Lamb clothed
00:20:40.44\00:20:43.51
with white
robes, and palm branches
00:20:43.54\00:20:45.77
in their hands."
00:20:45.81\00:20:47.14
And so when
you're looking at this,
00:20:47.18\00:20:48.94
the dialogue takes place in...
00:20:48.98\00:20:50.58
A question is asked in verse 13.
00:20:50.61\00:20:52.95
"And one of the
elders answered saying to me,
00:20:52.98\00:20:55.05
'Who are these
arrayed in white robes
00:20:55.08\00:20:57.12
and where did they come from?'
00:20:57.15\00:20:59.85
And I said to
him, 'Sir, you know.'
00:20:59.89\00:21:01.99
So he said, 'These are the ones
00:21:02.02\00:21:04.49
who come out of
the Great Tribulation,
00:21:04.53\00:21:06.70
and washed their
robes and made them white
00:21:06.73\00:21:08.80
in the blood of the Lamb.'"
00:21:08.83\00:21:10.73
Now, the Great Tribulation
has a dual application,
00:21:10.77\00:21:14.20
those who died
during the Dark Ages
00:21:14.24\00:21:15.94
and those who will die
again in the Greater Tribulation
00:21:15.97\00:21:18.44
at the time of the end.
00:21:18.47\00:21:19.81
The Lord is saying these groups
00:21:19.84\00:21:21.18
were gathered from
that the past group,
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and those who are in
the future to be persecuted.
00:21:23.88\00:21:25.91
But I believe that the 144,000
00:21:25.95\00:21:28.18
has a special focus
00:21:28.22\00:21:30.39
because we see
them one more time.
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Let's go to
Revelation Chapter 14.
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That's right. We
see them one more time.
00:21:34.22\00:21:36.79
And I didn't think
that John the Revelator
00:21:36.83\00:21:38.89
was given this
picture arbitrarily.
00:21:38.93\00:21:41.26
Revelation Chapter 14,
00:21:41.30\00:21:43.20
and the Bible brings them
back into view here again.
00:21:43.23\00:21:47.57
Now he talks about them,
00:21:47.60\00:21:48.94
"I looked and behold the
Lamb standing on Mount Zion,
00:21:48.97\00:21:51.97
and with Him 144,000
having His Father's name
00:21:52.01\00:21:55.71
written on their foreheads.
00:21:55.74\00:21:57.85
And I heard a voice from heaven
like the voice of many waters,
00:21:57.88\00:22:00.12
and like the voice
of its loud thunder.
00:22:00.15\00:22:02.05
And I heard the
sound of harpists
00:22:02.08\00:22:03.59
playing their harps.
00:22:03.62\00:22:04.95
They sang as were a
new song before the throne,
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before the four living creatures
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and the elders.
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And no one could learn
that song except 144,000,
00:22:10.46\00:22:13.96
who were
redeemed from the earth."
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It describes who they are.
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"These are the ones
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who were not defiled with women,
00:22:19.23\00:22:20.97
for they are virgins.
00:22:21.00\00:22:22.34
These are the ones
00:22:22.37\00:22:23.71
who followed the
Lamb wherever He goes.
00:22:23.74\00:22:26.17
These were
redeemed from among men
00:22:26.21\00:22:27.84
having being firstfruits
to God and to the Lamb."
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If you know anything
about firstfruits, it doesn't...
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It resembles the larger group
00:22:33.35\00:22:36.38
but it's the first.
00:22:36.42\00:22:38.52
It's a group that's
separate in choosing.
00:22:38.55\00:22:42.66
The first fruits
were always given
00:22:42.69\00:22:44.36
as the harvest was selected.
00:22:44.39\00:22:46.59
But it didn't
represent the entire harvest,
00:22:46.63\00:22:50.27
the rest of them came later on.
00:22:50.30\00:22:52.37
I believe that the
144,000 are those who are living
00:22:52.40\00:22:55.74
at the time of the end,
00:22:55.77\00:22:57.14
who charged by the
outpouring of the Spirit of God
00:22:57.17\00:23:00.71
will proclaim that final message
00:23:00.74\00:23:02.78
to the world, the
three angels' messages.
00:23:02.81\00:23:06.78
Now, the beautiful thing about
00:23:06.82\00:23:08.55
that is I don't believe
that the Lord is going to get to
00:23:08.58\00:23:11.02
143,999 and say,
00:23:11.05\00:23:15.32
"Stop, we only have one left."
00:23:15.36\00:23:17.89
I believe in that application,
00:23:17.93\00:23:19.29
they represent a
group that's symbolic,
00:23:19.33\00:23:21.96
but the work that
00:23:22.00\00:23:23.33
they are given
to do is specific.
00:23:23.37\00:23:24.80
The proclamation that
calls the people of God
00:23:24.83\00:23:28.04
out of the Great Tribulation
as Revelation 18:4 says,
00:23:28.07\00:23:31.57
"Come out of her."
00:23:31.61\00:23:32.94
How will they come out
00:23:32.97\00:23:34.31
unless they hear the message
proclaimed by this group?
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Amen. Thank you
so much, Pastor John.
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Before I go to
the next question,
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we're going to Pastor Ryan here.
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We want to remind you
to chat in your questions
00:23:44.05\00:23:46.12
at the bottom of
your screen there.
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We would love to get to them
00:23:47.52\00:23:48.86
through this hour
here as many as we can.
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This is going to Pastor Ryan.
00:23:51.43\00:23:52.76
And after you answer,
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we're going to toss it
around to see if anyone else has
00:23:54.33\00:23:55.66
something to add to it.
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Sure. Okay.
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"Susan has a
terminal cancer diagnosis.
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She has been
recommended to go visit a man
00:24:01.04\00:24:03.07
who is a faith healer
00:24:03.10\00:24:04.57
and will pray over
people for healing.
00:24:04.61\00:24:07.04
This man doesn't
charge any money.
00:24:07.08\00:24:08.71
However, Susan is
still uncomfortable.
00:24:08.74\00:24:11.01
Is it biblical to ask someone
to pray over you for healing?
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And should you
travel to that individual?"
00:24:14.62\00:24:16.55
So it's kind of
a twofold question.
00:24:16.58\00:24:18.32
Is it biblical to ask someone
to pray over you for healing
00:24:18.35\00:24:20.76
and should you
go to that person?
00:24:20.79\00:24:22.62
Absolutely. Okay.
00:24:22.66\00:24:23.99
Well, first of all, I
just want to just say that
00:24:24.03\00:24:26.59
my heart goes out to Susan.
00:24:26.63\00:24:27.96
I mean, that's a
horrible situation
00:24:28.00\00:24:29.70
to be in and I
know that, first of all,
00:24:29.73\00:24:32.03
the Lord knows and
the Lord is there for you.
00:24:32.07\00:24:34.67
And I'm going to answer
this question very directly,
00:24:34.70\00:24:36.91
and I'm sure others
will chime in as well.
00:24:36.94\00:24:39.27
But, first of all, do
you need to go to someone
00:24:39.31\00:24:42.94
who calls themselves
or refers to themselves
00:24:42.98\00:24:44.55
as a faith healer?
00:24:44.58\00:24:45.91
First of all, I
just want to say,
00:24:45.95\00:24:47.28
I'd be careful with that.
00:24:47.32\00:24:48.65
Just because I myself have come
00:24:48.68\00:24:50.82
from a background of churches
in different denominations,
00:24:50.85\00:24:54.56
who practice this type of work,
00:24:54.59\00:24:57.29
this type of terminology
known as faith healers.
00:24:57.33\00:25:00.03
And you have to be very careful
00:25:00.06\00:25:01.40
because the Bible says that
00:25:01.43\00:25:02.76
there are false christs
and false prophets out there
00:25:02.80\00:25:04.93
that are performing,
again, signs and wonders
00:25:04.97\00:25:07.17
and miracles that
could even deceive,
00:25:07.20\00:25:09.30
if possible,
even the very elect.
00:25:09.34\00:25:11.34
So when a person considers
themselves a faith healer,
00:25:11.37\00:25:14.11
and you can go from
one place to the country
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or one town to the next
00:25:16.88\00:25:18.21
and you're traveling
to them to be prayed for,
00:25:18.25\00:25:20.82
I would be very careful
with that and cautious of that.
00:25:20.85\00:25:23.99
First of all, let's
point back to the Bible.
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What does the Bible say?
00:25:25.89\00:25:27.22
What counsel does the Bible
give for us who may be sick,
00:25:27.26\00:25:29.22
who may have some type
of ailment or sick condition
00:25:29.26\00:25:33.19
that we want healing from?
00:25:33.23\00:25:35.13
What does the Bible tell us?
00:25:35.16\00:25:36.50
First of all,
let's go to James 5
00:25:36.53\00:25:38.00
and let's look at
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what counsel is given
to us there in the Bible.
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James 5:14-16,
notice what the Bible says.
00:25:41.10\00:25:45.34
It says, "Is anyone
among you suffering?
00:25:45.37\00:25:47.71
Let him pray.
Is anyone cheerful?
00:25:47.74\00:25:50.25
Let him sing psalms."
00:25:50.28\00:25:51.95
And then in verse 14,
this is where it comes in,
00:25:51.98\00:25:53.92
"Is anyone among you sick?
00:25:53.95\00:25:56.25
Let him call for the
elders of the church," right?
00:25:56.28\00:26:00.56
"And let them pray over him,
00:26:00.59\00:26:02.02
anointing him with oil
in the name of the Lord."
00:26:02.06\00:26:05.43
And it goes on to say,
"And the prayer of the faith
00:26:05.46\00:26:07.23
will save the sick and
the Lord will raise him up.
00:26:07.26\00:26:09.90
And if he has committed
sins, he will be forgiven."
00:26:09.93\00:26:12.00
And then verse 16,
00:26:12.03\00:26:13.37
"Confess your
trespasses to one another,
00:26:13.40\00:26:14.97
and pray for one
another that you may be healed.
00:26:15.00\00:26:19.01
The effective, fervent prayer
00:26:19.04\00:26:20.58
of a righteous man avails much."
00:26:20.61\00:26:22.81
So is it biblical for someone
to pray for someone else?
00:26:22.84\00:26:26.15
Absolutely.
00:26:26.18\00:26:27.52
Should you be going to someone
00:26:27.55\00:26:28.88
who calls
themselves a faith healer
00:26:28.92\00:26:30.75
or some type of prayer healer?
00:26:30.79\00:26:32.19
I would be a
little skeptic of that.
00:26:32.22\00:26:33.69
The Bible tells us what to do.
00:26:33.72\00:26:35.06
We don't have to
go to anywhere else
00:26:35.09\00:26:36.42
but what the Bible says.
00:26:36.46\00:26:37.79
And that is you contact
your local church pastor
00:26:37.83\00:26:39.86
and you tell your
local church pastor.
00:26:39.89\00:26:41.46
It is that man's job
00:26:41.50\00:26:42.83
to gather the
elders of the church
00:26:42.86\00:26:44.43
at your request.
00:26:44.47\00:26:45.80
And when you bring the
pastor and the elders together,
00:26:45.83\00:26:48.20
as they pray for you
and anoint you with oil,
00:26:48.24\00:26:50.31
by following
that biblical counsel,
00:26:50.34\00:26:52.47
you are in good
hands with the Lord.
00:26:52.51\00:26:54.48
I also want to add in
there, 1 John 5:14-15.
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I think the second
part of your question was,
00:26:59.08\00:27:01.65
should you travel
to that individual?
00:27:01.68\00:27:03.39
There's no need.
God hears your prayers.
00:27:03.42\00:27:06.32
You don't have to
travel across the country
00:27:06.35\00:27:07.92
or travel to someone.
00:27:07.96\00:27:09.29
If someone tells you,
00:27:09.32\00:27:10.66
you have to travel to
somebody else to get heal.
00:27:10.69\00:27:12.03
My friends, let me tell you
what the Bible says right here.
00:27:12.06\00:27:14.10
1 John 5:14-15, "Now
this is the confidence that
00:27:14.13\00:27:18.23
we have in Him that
00:27:18.27\00:27:19.60
if we ask anything
according to His will,
00:27:19.63\00:27:22.20
He hears us.
00:27:22.24\00:27:23.57
And if we know
that He hears us,"
00:27:23.61\00:27:25.51
speaking of the Lord,
00:27:25.54\00:27:26.88
"whatever we ask, we know that
00:27:26.91\00:27:28.64
we have the
petitions that we ask of Him."
00:27:28.68\00:27:30.95
God is interceding
in the Most Holy Place
00:27:30.98\00:27:33.82
right now for you, Susan.
00:27:33.85\00:27:35.68
He hears that prayer.
00:27:35.72\00:27:37.55
And if you call out
to Him and pray to Him,
00:27:37.59\00:27:39.12
He's going to hear that prayer.
00:27:39.15\00:27:40.49
And if it's
according to His will,
00:27:40.52\00:27:41.86
He will hear you
and He will answer
00:27:41.89\00:27:43.36
according to His perfect will.
00:27:43.39\00:27:45.16
And could I add
just one thought is that
00:27:45.19\00:27:50.07
the gift of healing is
a gift of the Holy Spirit,
00:27:50.10\00:27:52.63
but I don't
believe it's one that rests
00:27:52.67\00:27:55.27
on someone permanently.
00:27:55.30\00:27:56.87
And I'll tell you why.
00:27:56.91\00:27:58.24
Paul had such an
amazing ministry.
00:27:58.27\00:28:02.34
He raised the man that
00:28:02.38\00:28:03.71
fell out of a
third storey window.
00:28:03.75\00:28:06.05
He raised him from the dead.
00:28:06.08\00:28:07.95
He had such
healing power at times that
00:28:07.98\00:28:12.09
they took a handkerchief
and he prayed over it,
00:28:12.12\00:28:16.29
touched it, they took it out.
00:28:16.32\00:28:18.16
And people who touched
that hanky, they were healed.
00:28:18.19\00:28:21.53
But this same
Paul, listen to this.
00:28:21.56\00:28:24.63
He's writing to Timothy,
and in 2 Timothy Chapter 5...
00:28:24.67\00:28:29.50
Excuse me, 2 Timothy 4:20,
00:28:29.54\00:28:33.78
he tells Timothy,
"Erastus stayed in Corinth,
00:28:33.81\00:28:38.65
but Trophimus I have
left in Miletus sick."
00:28:38.68\00:28:44.82
Now, wait a minute,
Paul had this great,
00:28:44.85\00:28:48.86
amazing healing power.
00:28:48.89\00:28:51.59
Don't you know he was
praying for Trophimus?
00:28:51.63\00:28:55.36
That's right. But he didn't.
00:28:55.40\00:28:58.40
It's not something
that is resident on someone,
00:28:58.43\00:29:01.34
so I'm very skeptical of anyone
00:29:01.37\00:29:05.54
who calls
himself a faith healer.
00:29:05.57\00:29:06.91
That's right.
00:29:06.94\00:29:08.28
And also Paul
had his own infirmity
00:29:08.31\00:29:10.65
that he has been
pleading for the Lord to remove
00:29:10.68\00:29:13.01
and the Lord said, "No,
00:29:13.05\00:29:14.38
My grace is sufficient for you."
00:29:14.42\00:29:17.25
Healing is not something...
00:29:17.29\00:29:19.02
Remember Matthew 7:21-23,
00:29:19.05\00:29:22.56
"Many will even go as far as
00:29:22.59\00:29:23.93
casting out demons
in the name of Jesus,
00:29:23.96\00:29:26.49
but Jesus would say,
00:29:26.53\00:29:27.86
"I don't even
know who they are."
00:29:27.90\00:29:29.23
So let us not look at the works
00:29:29.26\00:29:30.80
that a person
performs as evidence
00:29:30.83\00:29:32.47
that they are
connected to Christ.
00:29:32.50\00:29:33.84
Amen. Amen.
00:29:33.87\00:29:35.54
Shelley... Oh,
Pastor Johnny, please.
00:29:35.57\00:29:37.77
I just want to say, you know,
00:29:37.81\00:29:39.27
all of that you have
heard is great counseling.
00:29:39.31\00:29:43.24
And I just want to say,
00:29:43.28\00:29:45.88
no matter what
you're going through
00:29:45.91\00:29:47.95
Jesus is with you.
00:29:47.98\00:29:49.32
He says, "I will never leave you
00:29:49.35\00:29:50.69
nor forsake you."
00:29:50.72\00:29:52.05
He is there with you
00:29:52.09\00:29:53.42
and He's willing to give you
His peace as John 14:27 says.
00:29:53.46\00:29:57.33
So whatever
situation you're going through,
00:29:57.36\00:29:59.79
just put yourself in
the hands of the Lord,
00:29:59.83\00:30:02.13
because He is there with you
00:30:02.16\00:30:05.00
and He will never
leave you nor forsake you.
00:30:05.03\00:30:06.84
Amen.
00:30:06.87\00:30:08.20
Thank you for that
encouragement, powerful.
00:30:08.24\00:30:10.04
Shelley, we're
going to come over to you.
00:30:10.07\00:30:12.21
This is from Vanessa.
00:30:12.24\00:30:14.48
"Is there power in prayer?"
00:30:14.51\00:30:16.98
Hmm, goodness.
00:30:17.01\00:30:20.82
Okay, well, we just
referenced James 5:16, says,
00:30:20.85\00:30:24.52
"The prayers of a
righteous man availeth much."
00:30:24.55\00:30:27.62
Let me tell you something that
00:30:27.66\00:30:29.62
prayer is
communication with God,
00:30:29.66\00:30:33.83
and communication
is the relationship.
00:30:33.86\00:30:36.70
And as you pray to God,
00:30:36.73\00:30:39.50
He's asking you to seek His face
00:30:39.53\00:30:41.80
and get to know Him.
00:30:41.84\00:30:43.41
And there is power in prayer.
00:30:43.44\00:30:46.98
Let's look at 1 Peter 3:10.
00:30:47.01\00:30:50.75
And in 1 Peter 3:10...
00:30:50.78\00:30:53.72
Hang on, let me get there.
00:30:53.75\00:30:56.42
1 Peter 3:10, Peter says...
00:30:56.45\00:31:02.32
If I can find it.
00:31:02.36\00:31:03.69
I'm not thinking of 1 Peter 3...
00:31:03.73\00:31:06.09
1 Peter 3:12,
"The eyes of the Lord
00:31:06.13\00:31:09.53
are on the righteous
00:31:09.56\00:31:10.97
and His ears are
open to their prayers,
00:31:11.00\00:31:14.00
but the face of the Lord
is against those who do evil."
00:31:14.04\00:31:19.17
I love what Hebrews says,
00:31:19.21\00:31:23.04
in Hebrews Chapter 4.
00:31:23.08\00:31:25.81
Let's go there
00:31:25.85\00:31:27.75
because this is
such an encouragement.
00:31:27.78\00:31:31.02
Hebrews Chapter 4,
00:31:31.05\00:31:33.46
and we will look
at verses 15 and 16.
00:31:33.49\00:31:38.66
He says, "We do
not have a high priest
00:31:38.69\00:31:41.43
who cannot
sympathize with our weaknesses,
00:31:41.46\00:31:44.87
but was in all points
00:31:44.90\00:31:46.77
tempted as we
are yet without sin.
00:31:46.80\00:31:51.37
Let us
therefore, for this reason,
00:31:51.41\00:31:55.24
let us come boldly to
the throne of grace that
00:31:55.28\00:31:59.85
we may obtain mercy
00:31:59.88\00:32:02.65
and find grace to
help in our time of need."
00:32:02.68\00:32:07.99
You know, I think that
00:32:08.02\00:32:11.53
prayer
demonstrates our humility.
00:32:11.56\00:32:16.26
If you think about
this in Philippians 2:5,
00:32:16.30\00:32:21.47
Paul wrote to the Philippians.
00:32:21.50\00:32:23.30
And he said, "Let
this mind be in you
00:32:23.34\00:32:24.87
that was in Christ Jesus."
00:32:24.91\00:32:27.51
And then he talks about
00:32:27.54\00:32:28.88
how Christ humbled
Himself to become a man
00:32:28.91\00:32:32.05
and was totally
dependent upon the Father.
00:32:32.08\00:32:34.55
Did you know that's
God's plan of salvation
00:32:34.58\00:32:36.99
for you is complete
dependence upon Him?
00:32:37.02\00:32:40.99
And if you go through the day
00:32:41.02\00:32:44.26
without praying, you're saying,
00:32:44.29\00:32:47.33
"God, I don't need Your help."
00:32:47.36\00:32:49.30
But we should let
prayer come forth at all times,
00:32:49.33\00:32:54.37
and not just asking for things,
00:32:54.40\00:32:56.94
but just celebrating
the presence of the Lord,
00:32:56.97\00:33:00.11
and spending time with
the lover of your soul.
00:33:00.14\00:33:03.31
But prayer is very powerful
00:33:03.35\00:33:05.88
because it moves God's
hand and it brings His blessings
00:33:05.91\00:33:11.09
from heaven to earth.
00:33:11.12\00:33:12.49
James said, "You don't
have because you don't ask."
00:33:12.52\00:33:15.82
Amen. Thank you.
00:33:15.86\00:33:17.96
Pastor Johnny,
we're coming to you.
00:33:17.99\00:33:20.20
"Why is this
not happening today,
00:33:20.23\00:33:23.16
the 3,000 souls being
baptized at a time in America?"
00:33:23.20\00:33:28.37
And this question
was sent in from Grace.
00:33:28.40\00:33:31.97
That is a wonderful question.
00:33:32.01\00:33:33.98
And that is
something that personally,
00:33:34.01\00:33:36.61
I'm concerned about
00:33:36.64\00:33:37.98
because it should
be happening today.
00:33:38.01\00:33:41.88
I believe the
church needs to wake up.
00:33:41.92\00:33:44.29
I believe it is
time to trust in the Lord
00:33:44.32\00:33:46.86
and not to get distracted
by all the things of the world.
00:33:46.89\00:33:50.86
You know, talking about 3,000
in a day, we've had some...
00:33:50.89\00:33:53.53
The Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:33:53.56\00:33:54.96
is doing a wonderful work,
00:33:55.00\00:33:57.77
but it's not
doing the work entirely
00:33:57.80\00:34:01.00
as it should be done.
00:34:01.04\00:34:02.37
We're waiting
for the latter rain.
00:34:02.40\00:34:03.74
We need to pray for
the latter rain to come.
00:34:03.77\00:34:06.24
But for the latter rain to come,
00:34:06.27\00:34:08.28
we need to do
what the disciples did.
00:34:08.31\00:34:10.51
For the early rain to fall,
00:34:10.55\00:34:12.88
they came together, they prayed.
00:34:12.91\00:34:14.82
They confessed
their sins before God.
00:34:14.85\00:34:16.69
They confessed their
faults one to another.
00:34:16.72\00:34:18.85
There was a submitting to
God, a surrendering to God.
00:34:18.89\00:34:24.06
And we are,
according to Ellen G. White
00:34:24.09\00:34:26.73
there's going to be a
revival of primitive godliness.
00:34:26.76\00:34:30.13
And we should do our part
for that to happen in our lives
00:34:30.17\00:34:35.07
and we're going
to see these miracles
00:34:35.10\00:34:36.91
when the Holy
Spirit is poured out.
00:34:36.94\00:34:38.34
It happened in the early rain.
00:34:38.37\00:34:40.51
It's going to happen
in the latter rain again,
00:34:40.54\00:34:43.28
and this is what we
need, the latter rain.
00:34:43.31\00:34:45.08
Let us pray for it
with all of our hearts.
00:34:45.11\00:34:47.38
Let us get ourselves
prepared and pray for others
00:34:47.42\00:34:50.89
so that they will
get prepared as well.
00:34:50.92\00:34:52.52
Amen. Can I add
something to that?
00:34:52.55\00:34:54.26
Please.
00:34:54.29\00:34:55.62
America is the place that
00:34:55.66\00:34:56.99
has become a place
00:34:57.03\00:34:58.36
of worship-tainment.
00:34:58.39\00:35:03.33
The gospel has metamorphosized
into entertainment
00:35:03.37\00:35:08.57
in so many churches in America.
00:35:08.60\00:35:10.77
And then the second thing
00:35:10.81\00:35:12.14
is the distraction
level in America is amazing.
00:35:12.17\00:35:16.08
We are probably one
of the countries where
00:35:16.11\00:35:17.98
and I would...
00:35:18.01\00:35:19.35
As I've traveled
around the world,
00:35:19.38\00:35:20.72
we know this in England,
00:35:20.75\00:35:22.08
it's similar to that,
Australia is that place too.
00:35:22.12\00:35:24.05
Wherever you find the
technology at its peak,
00:35:24.09\00:35:27.39
you find soul
saving at its lowest.
00:35:27.42\00:35:30.79
Where there are
least distractions,
00:35:30.83\00:35:32.59
there are more
people coming to Christ.
00:35:32.63\00:35:33.96
That's right. That's true.
00:35:34.00\00:35:35.33
You find that, you
have some countries
00:35:35.36\00:35:36.80
and you noticed as a
Latino pastor man that
00:35:36.83\00:35:42.37
the countries where
00:35:42.40\00:35:43.74
there's one
pastor to 15 churches,
00:35:43.77\00:35:46.04
the churches are exploding.
00:35:46.07\00:35:48.64
In America, the man has
00:35:48.68\00:35:51.01
become the focal
point in so many ways.
00:35:51.05\00:35:53.92
That's why every
Sabbath morning I pray,
00:35:53.95\00:35:55.58
"Lord, please
give them ears to hear
00:35:55.62\00:35:58.02
what You're saying."
00:35:58.05\00:35:59.39
When we exalt the man,
00:35:59.42\00:36:00.76
it becomes an
entertainment aspect
00:36:00.79\00:36:02.49
and then the work ceases
00:36:02.52\00:36:03.86
because they expect
the pastor to do the work.
00:36:03.89\00:36:06.39
On the day of Pentecost,
00:36:06.43\00:36:08.20
the people were
filled with the Spirit of God
00:36:08.23\00:36:10.73
and they went out and I
just end with the story.
00:36:10.77\00:36:13.00
We have a lady that's
a part of our study now.
00:36:13.03\00:36:15.54
And I would say
this to the glory of God,
00:36:15.57\00:36:18.04
she just two
and a half years ago
00:36:18.07\00:36:19.91
became a Seventh-day Adventist,
00:36:19.94\00:36:21.28
but was Jehovah's
Witness for 37 years.
00:36:21.31\00:36:24.15
And I do a Bible marking
class that she attends online.
00:36:24.18\00:36:26.85
And she joins us
00:36:26.88\00:36:28.22
on Wednesday
night prayer meeting.
00:36:28.25\00:36:29.58
After my last
Bible marking class,
00:36:29.62\00:36:31.39
she said, "I'm
going to put to practice
00:36:31.42\00:36:32.79
what you just taught me."
00:36:32.82\00:36:34.16
She went across the
street to her neighbor,
00:36:34.19\00:36:35.62
asked if she
want a Bible studies.
00:36:35.66\00:36:36.99
Now, she's going to be
studying with his entire family.
00:36:37.03\00:36:39.13
Praise the Lord.
00:36:39.16\00:36:40.50
People are fearful of trying
00:36:40.53\00:36:41.96
when the Lord said He
will give us success in
00:36:42.00\00:36:44.50
if we simply put it to practice.
00:36:44.53\00:36:46.74
So don't be afraid
00:36:46.77\00:36:48.10
and think you have to go through
00:36:48.14\00:36:49.47
19 weeks of training.
00:36:49.50\00:36:50.87
Just try it and as
the day of Pentecost,
00:36:50.91\00:36:53.78
you will see the results.
00:36:53.81\00:36:55.14
Amen.
00:36:55.18\00:36:56.51
I think just in response to that
00:36:56.54\00:36:57.88
why is it happening in America?
00:36:57.91\00:36:59.68
I think sometimes we forget
that America is probably...
00:36:59.71\00:37:01.62
The churches in America
00:37:01.65\00:37:02.98
is one of the best
examples of that last church age
00:37:03.02\00:37:05.89
we see in
Revelation Chapter 3, Laodicea.
00:37:05.92\00:37:08.86
She thinks that
she's of need of nothing,
00:37:08.89\00:37:10.23
but yet she's wretched,
00:37:10.26\00:37:11.59
miserable,
poor, blind and naked.
00:37:11.63\00:37:12.96
Her spiritual condition is
in need of a spiritual revival,
00:37:12.99\00:37:17.37
which is why Christ
counsels us to buy from him gold
00:37:17.40\00:37:21.30
refined in the fire.
00:37:21.34\00:37:22.67
He basically
counsels our righteousness
00:37:22.70\00:37:24.44
by faith experience.
00:37:24.47\00:37:25.87
Also, think of the 10
virgins in Matthew Chapter 25,
00:37:25.91\00:37:29.51
you know, they all
slumbered and slept.
00:37:29.54\00:37:32.08
My brother, rest his
soul, Kenneth Cox, he would say,
00:37:32.11\00:37:35.48
"I think we're doing
a little bit of that."
00:37:35.52\00:37:37.55
And I agree with that.
00:37:37.59\00:37:39.05
You know, I think we've
been in a slumbering state
00:37:39.09\00:37:40.99
while the
bridegroom is tarrying.
00:37:41.02\00:37:43.26
But as Brother Johnny
brought out very clearly,
00:37:43.29\00:37:45.93
God is going to pour out
His Spirit in a mighty way.
00:37:45.96\00:37:48.10
There's going to be a separation
00:37:48.13\00:37:49.46
between the sheep and the goats,
00:37:49.50\00:37:50.83
the wheat and the tares,
00:37:50.87\00:37:52.20
and God's true remnant
people are going to rise up.
00:37:52.23\00:37:53.87
And they will preach the gospel
00:37:53.90\00:37:55.24
where thousands will
be converted in a day.
00:37:55.27\00:37:57.61
Amen. Amen for that.
00:37:57.64\00:37:58.97
Amen. Thank you so much.
00:37:59.01\00:38:00.34
More questions are coming in.
00:38:00.38\00:38:01.71
Pastor John,
this is coming to you.
00:38:01.74\00:38:03.08
This is Madeline,
00:38:03.11\00:38:04.45
and this is actually a follow up
00:38:04.48\00:38:05.81
from the last Bible
Q and A that we did,
00:38:05.85\00:38:09.32
where I answered a question.
00:38:09.35\00:38:11.42
She says, "Ezekiel 33:7,
00:38:11.45\00:38:14.49
was given as a response
to James 4:17 in regards
00:38:14.52\00:38:18.93
to truth being a liability.
00:38:18.96\00:38:21.20
Would it then be appropriate
00:38:21.23\00:38:22.56
to plainly tell her first
day Adventist friends that
00:38:22.60\00:38:25.10
those who consider
Sunday the Lord's day
00:38:25.13\00:38:27.10
will receive the
mark of the beast?
00:38:27.14\00:38:29.70
Wouldn't this not only
turn our friends against us,
00:38:29.74\00:38:32.37
but close the door
for future interaction?"
00:38:32.41\00:38:35.94
Well, you know,
00:38:35.98\00:38:37.35
I'm glad you
asked me this question
00:38:37.38\00:38:39.98
because just
recently Madeline...
00:38:40.02\00:38:42.68
Would it be okay if I
just mentioned this about
00:38:42.72\00:38:44.59
my two sermons on
the mark of the beast?
00:38:44.62\00:38:45.95
Yeah, sure. Absolutely.
00:38:45.99\00:38:47.32
I did a two-part series
on the mark of the beast.
00:38:47.36\00:38:49.62
And what I
mentioned in that series,
00:38:49.66\00:38:51.66
you can find that
at johnlomacang.com
00:38:51.69\00:38:54.23
That's my name, johnlomacang.com
00:38:54.26\00:38:57.27
on the sermon's tab.
00:38:57.30\00:38:59.03
Or you can go to our
church's website tvsdac.org
00:38:59.07\00:39:04.17
When I did that sermon two-parts
00:39:04.21\00:39:05.77
on the mark of the
beast, I never said that
00:39:05.81\00:39:07.94
people that go
to church on Sunday
00:39:07.98\00:39:09.68
will receive the
mark of the beast.
00:39:09.71\00:39:11.48
I never said that
because right now that
00:39:11.51\00:39:14.38
is not an issue
anywhere in the world.
00:39:14.42\00:39:17.05
When we talk
about who the beast is,
00:39:17.09\00:39:19.22
it's clear that
according to the Bible,
00:39:19.25\00:39:22.02
it is describing the
papal system of Rome.
00:39:22.06\00:39:24.89
The influence of
Rome surely did lead
00:39:24.93\00:39:27.40
into the changing of the...
00:39:27.43\00:39:28.76
As they said, the
transferring of the solemnity.
00:39:28.80\00:39:31.40
This, their words
from Saturday to Sunday.
00:39:31.43\00:39:34.60
They said, "And
Protestants agree with them
00:39:34.64\00:39:38.21
in observing Sunday."
00:39:38.24\00:39:40.04
But Sunday has not
been urged upon the world
00:39:40.08\00:39:43.24
as now a point of allegiance
00:39:43.28\00:39:45.91
to either one
power or the other.
00:39:45.95\00:39:48.78
So we don't teach that
00:39:48.82\00:39:50.32
our friends who go
to church on Sunday
00:39:50.35\00:39:52.52
will receive the
mark of the beast.
00:39:52.55\00:39:54.49
What the Bible teaches is that
00:39:54.52\00:39:56.49
when the time comes that
00:39:56.52\00:39:58.29
you have to choose
00:39:58.33\00:39:59.66
between serving
the Lord in Spirit
00:39:59.69\00:40:01.23
and in truth or
serving tradition,
00:40:01.26\00:40:04.33
or a false
doctrines, anything you exalt,
00:40:04.37\00:40:08.94
not just Sunday.
00:40:08.97\00:40:10.94
If you choose any error
that replaces any truth,
00:40:10.97\00:40:15.14
you will receive the
mark of the beast, any error.
00:40:15.18\00:40:18.21
Somebody might say,
00:40:18.25\00:40:19.58
"I don't believe
in what death teaches.
00:40:19.61\00:40:20.95
I don't believe the
teaching about death.
00:40:20.98\00:40:22.38
I believe they
die and go to heaven.
00:40:22.42\00:40:23.89
I don't care about Sunday.
00:40:23.92\00:40:25.25
I believe my
mother's in heaven."
00:40:25.29\00:40:26.62
You will receive
the mark of the beast.
00:40:26.65\00:40:27.99
Any error that
replaces any truth will result
00:40:28.02\00:40:31.53
in the mark of the beast.
00:40:31.56\00:40:32.89
Now, let me end on this point.
00:40:32.93\00:40:34.26
You don't have to receive
00:40:34.30\00:40:35.63
the mark of the
beast to be lost.
00:40:35.66\00:40:37.00
You can receive
the mark of the beast
00:40:37.03\00:40:38.37
or the number or the name.
00:40:38.40\00:40:40.30
Any one of the three will
condemn you to being lost.
00:40:40.34\00:40:43.57
But the Lord
doesn't want us to be lost,
00:40:43.61\00:40:44.97
so here's the
protection you get.
00:40:45.01\00:40:47.34
We don't turn our friends off
00:40:47.38\00:40:48.71
because we firmly believe that
God's people are everywhere.
00:40:48.74\00:40:52.51
But Revelation's
three angels' message
00:40:52.55\00:40:54.38
is a gathering message back
00:40:54.42\00:40:56.08
to the truth of God's Word,
00:40:56.12\00:40:57.69
and the Sabbath is
a part of that truth.
00:40:57.72\00:40:59.49
Amen. That's powerful.
00:40:59.52\00:41:00.86
Amen.
00:41:00.89\00:41:02.22
Yeah, I just want to
add to that really quickly
00:41:02.26\00:41:03.59
and Pastor did a beautiful job.
00:41:03.63\00:41:04.96
You know, I just want to
say please, please, please,
00:41:04.99\00:41:07.73
we've got to get
better at watching
00:41:07.76\00:41:09.90
how we describe
things and how we say things.
00:41:09.93\00:41:12.00
I have thousands of Seventh-day
Adventists on my Facebook page.
00:41:12.03\00:41:15.37
And I often hear people say,
00:41:15.40\00:41:16.74
"The mark of the
beast is Sunday worship."
00:41:16.77\00:41:18.61
We got to get away
from that kind of language
00:41:18.64\00:41:20.21
because the mark of the
beast is not Sunday worship.
00:41:20.24\00:41:22.74
When you say that
you're implying that
00:41:22.78\00:41:24.45
the mark of the beast is...
00:41:24.48\00:41:26.45
that Sunday worship is
somehow bad in the sense that
00:41:26.48\00:41:29.18
we can't worship God on Sunday
when we should worship God
00:41:29.22\00:41:32.25
every single day of the week.
00:41:32.29\00:41:33.86
The Sabbath, you know,
the seventh day Sabbath
00:41:33.89\00:41:36.22
is the only Sabbath
of the Lord thy God.
00:41:36.26\00:41:37.99
And as Pastor brought out,
00:41:38.03\00:41:39.36
if any type of
rejection of a truth
00:41:39.39\00:41:41.06
can get you or help
you or encourage you
00:41:41.10\00:41:43.47
to receive the
mark of the beast,
00:41:43.50\00:41:44.83
but we know that final test
00:41:44.87\00:41:46.20
is indefinitely
surrounded around the question
00:41:46.23\00:41:47.87
of the Sabbath.
00:41:47.90\00:41:49.24
Mark of the
beast is the rejection
00:41:49.27\00:41:51.11
of God's biblical
Sabbath and the reception
00:41:51.14\00:41:54.48
or the acceptance
of the false Sabbath.
00:41:54.51\00:41:57.81
And so I just wanted to say that
00:41:57.85\00:41:59.18
just for clarification purpose
00:41:59.21\00:42:00.55
because I hear a
lot of people say,
00:42:00.58\00:42:01.92
"The mark of the
beast is Sunday worship."
00:42:01.95\00:42:03.28
Well, I worship God on Sunday
but Sunday's not my Sabbath.
00:42:03.32\00:42:06.89
The Sabbath of the Lord
00:42:06.92\00:42:08.39
is the seventh day
of the week, Saturday.
00:42:08.42\00:42:10.29
Amen. Pastor Johnny?
00:42:10.33\00:42:11.93
I just want to
add a little something
00:42:11.96\00:42:13.80
about the approach we...
00:42:13.83\00:42:17.63
I mean, you don't...
00:42:17.67\00:42:19.00
I don't know if this is
what Madeline is intending to,
00:42:19.03\00:42:21.54
go to your friend and say,
00:42:21.57\00:42:22.90
"Hey, I want to talk to you
about the mark of the beast."
00:42:22.94\00:42:26.01
There's Jesus that you
have to talk about first.
00:42:26.04\00:42:29.28
What He did for us,
what He's doing for us,
00:42:29.31\00:42:32.81
talk about Jesus.
00:42:32.85\00:42:34.35
And as you're
studying the life of Christ
00:42:34.38\00:42:36.45
and what He's doing for us,
00:42:36.48\00:42:38.35
it may be that you'll get to
00:42:38.39\00:42:39.72
the subject of
the mark of the beast
00:42:39.75\00:42:41.22
and the time will come for that.
00:42:41.26\00:42:42.86
But that should not
be the leading topic
00:42:42.89\00:42:45.73
to bring to people
00:42:45.76\00:42:47.10
because there's so much
truth that is so beautiful.
00:42:47.13\00:42:51.30
And remember, "And
I, if I be lifted up
00:42:51.33\00:42:55.07
will draw all men unto me."
00:42:55.10\00:42:57.27
So Jesus should be the center
00:42:57.31\00:42:59.41
and the focus of
reaching out to others.
00:42:59.44\00:43:01.48
Amen.
00:43:01.51\00:43:03.95
Pastor Ryan,
we're coming to you.
00:43:03.98\00:43:05.61
This is from Elizier.
"Why don't you wear jewelry?"
00:43:05.65\00:43:09.65
Well, probably
not you specifically,
00:43:09.68\00:43:11.19
but why don't you wear jewelry?
00:43:11.22\00:43:13.02
And they're writing
in from French Guyana.
00:43:13.05\00:43:16.02
All right.
That's a great question.
00:43:16.06\00:43:18.49
Well, I can
tell you very clearly
00:43:18.53\00:43:19.86
the reason why I
don't wear jewelry
00:43:19.89\00:43:21.90
is there's a personal choice
00:43:21.93\00:43:23.26
based on my
conviction of what I believe
00:43:23.30\00:43:25.33
the Word of God to say
and to teach very clearly,
00:43:25.37\00:43:27.90
from Genesis all the way through
00:43:27.94\00:43:29.70
to the Book of Revelation.
00:43:29.74\00:43:31.84
Now, there's a lot
of people out there
00:43:31.87\00:43:33.21
that's going to work
hard to try to manipulate
00:43:33.24\00:43:34.84
the Word of God to say
00:43:34.88\00:43:36.21
what they wanted
to say or not say.
00:43:36.24\00:43:37.81
But the truth of the matter is
00:43:37.85\00:43:39.18
if you allow the Word
of God to speak to you,
00:43:39.21\00:43:41.25
and you study those passages
00:43:41.28\00:43:42.65
that speak very
clearly and directly about
00:43:42.68\00:43:44.65
ornamental jewelry,
00:43:44.69\00:43:46.02
then really
there's no other conclusion
00:43:46.05\00:43:47.76
that you're going to come to
00:43:47.79\00:43:49.12
than that of the
fact that God says,
00:43:49.16\00:43:50.69
He doesn't want us
wearing jewelry now
00:43:50.73\00:43:52.63
in this lifetime,
00:43:52.66\00:43:54.00
in the sense that we
should refrain from it.
00:43:54.03\00:43:55.76
Let me give you a
couple of passages here,
00:43:55.80\00:43:57.13
Genesis 35:1-4.
00:43:57.17\00:44:00.30
I may not read all of this,
but the truth of the matter is,
00:44:00.34\00:44:02.44
I'll just
reference verse 4 here,
00:44:02.47\00:44:05.64
where it says,
"So they gave Jacob
00:44:05.67\00:44:07.84
all the foreign gods
that were in their hands,
00:44:07.88\00:44:09.74
and the earrings
which were in their ears,
00:44:09.78\00:44:11.78
and Jacob hid them
under the terebinth tree,
00:44:11.81\00:44:13.82
which was by Shechem."
00:44:13.85\00:44:15.18
So what happened
here is God said,
00:44:15.22\00:44:16.55
"I want to
sanctify you as My people.
00:44:16.58\00:44:18.05
You are My chosen people.
00:44:18.09\00:44:19.42
Come up and build Me an altar
and make a sacrifice unto Me,
00:44:19.45\00:44:22.26
and I'm going to
set you guys aside
00:44:22.29\00:44:24.26
for a special use."
00:44:24.29\00:44:25.63
And so one of the requirements
was God said, "You know what?
00:44:25.66\00:44:27.76
You came out of this
pagan heathen way of life.
00:44:27.80\00:44:30.50
You're supposed to be separate.
00:44:30.53\00:44:31.87
You're My peculiar people.
00:44:31.90\00:44:33.30
Not dressing and looking
and living your life like
00:44:33.34\00:44:35.77
the way of the
world but differently."
00:44:35.80\00:44:37.91
So God said, "Take off
your ornamental jewelry,"
00:44:37.94\00:44:40.18
and so they did so.
00:44:40.21\00:44:41.54
You see the same
situation come back again
00:44:41.58\00:44:43.91
when Moses brings
00:44:43.95\00:44:45.28
the children of
Israel out of Egypt.
00:44:45.31\00:44:47.18
He says to them once
again, Exodus 33:4-6, it says,
00:44:47.22\00:44:51.19
"When the people
heard this bad news,
00:44:51.22\00:44:52.95
they mourned and no
one put on his ornaments.
00:44:52.99\00:44:56.19
For the Lord had said to Moses,
say to the children of Israel,
00:44:56.22\00:44:58.63
you are a stiff neck people.
00:44:58.66\00:45:00.40
I could come up into the midst
in one moment and consume you.
00:45:00.43\00:45:04.03
Now therefore, take
off your ornaments that
00:45:04.07\00:45:06.13
I may know what to do with you."
00:45:06.17\00:45:07.80
And the Bible says they removed
00:45:07.84\00:45:09.37
those ornamental
jewelry and took it off.
00:45:09.40\00:45:10.74
Why?
00:45:10.77\00:45:12.11
Because they were in
the presence of the Lord.
00:45:12.14\00:45:13.48
And God said, "If
you're going to be My people,
00:45:13.51\00:45:15.21
I don't want you
to be like the world.
00:45:15.24\00:45:17.18
You're supposed to be
separate from the world.
00:45:17.21\00:45:18.78
I'm calling you
out and different
00:45:18.81\00:45:20.82
and apart from the heathens
00:45:20.85\00:45:22.45
and the people that
are living of the world."
00:45:22.48\00:45:25.79
And, of course,
this even bleeds over,
00:45:25.82\00:45:27.46
there's so many passages
I can share on this that
00:45:27.49\00:45:30.63
we could talk
about all day long.
00:45:30.66\00:45:32.39
But this message,
the same message bleeds
00:45:32.43\00:45:34.40
over into the New
Testament as well.
00:45:34.43\00:45:36.40
1 Timothy 2:9-10, 1 Peter 3:3-4,
00:45:36.43\00:45:41.54
where God tells them,
00:45:41.57\00:45:42.90
"Tell them not to wear
the gold or the fancier,
00:45:42.94\00:45:45.07
finer things that
00:45:45.11\00:45:46.44
it's the hidden man of the heart
00:45:46.47\00:45:47.81
that I want from you.
00:45:47.84\00:45:49.58
I want you to be transformed
from the inside out."
00:45:49.61\00:45:52.61
And also think about it
from the sanctuary perspective.
00:45:52.65\00:45:54.78
Our bodies are the
temple of the Holy Spirit.
00:45:54.82\00:45:56.89
You wouldn't walk in a church
00:45:56.92\00:45:59.32
and put graffiti all
over the inside and the out.
00:45:59.35\00:46:04.46
You consider that a holy place
00:46:04.49\00:46:06.09
because it's a
place of holy convocation
00:46:06.13\00:46:07.46
with the Lord.
00:46:07.50\00:46:08.83
The same thing with us.
00:46:08.86\00:46:10.20
If our bodies are the
temple of the Holy Spirit,
00:46:10.23\00:46:11.83
are we going to go putting holes
00:46:11.87\00:46:13.20
and poking holes
and putting all these
00:46:13.23\00:46:14.57
different things on us?
00:46:14.60\00:46:15.94
The truth of the matter is
00:46:15.97\00:46:17.31
if you follow the principle
of what the Bible says,
00:46:17.34\00:46:19.07
God just simply says,
00:46:19.11\00:46:20.44
"I don't want you to wear it.
00:46:20.48\00:46:21.81
Please, remove it."
00:46:21.84\00:46:23.18
And we even see
it all the way down
00:46:23.21\00:46:24.55
to the last book of
the Bible in Revelation,
00:46:24.58\00:46:25.91
where we see two women.
00:46:25.95\00:46:28.22
Of course, a woman
represents a church
00:46:28.25\00:46:29.58
in Bible prophecy.
00:46:29.62\00:46:30.95
The pure woman in Revelation 12,
00:46:30.99\00:46:32.39
she's clothed with all
the natural pure lights
00:46:32.42\00:46:34.56
that God created,
no ornamental jewelry.
00:46:34.59\00:46:36.66
And then you get
over in Revelation 17,
00:46:36.69\00:46:38.66
and a right opposite,
you see this harlot woman
00:46:38.69\00:46:41.46
who's decked with
all the precious jewels
00:46:41.50\00:46:43.13
and pearls.
00:46:43.16\00:46:44.50
And I think that
that's a clear communication
00:46:44.53\00:46:46.90
from God to say that
00:46:46.94\00:46:48.27
here's My holy people,
and they're dressed in a pure,
00:46:48.30\00:46:51.37
simple, modest way.
00:46:51.41\00:46:52.74
And over here you have
these false church systems
00:46:52.77\00:46:55.48
that are dressed like
the ways of the world.
00:46:55.51\00:46:58.08
We must be
separated from the world.
00:46:58.11\00:46:59.78
I don't think
that God hates gold.
00:46:59.81\00:47:01.65
He created gold. I
don't think He hates silver.
00:47:01.68\00:47:03.69
He created silver. I
don't think He hates pearls.
00:47:03.72\00:47:05.89
He allows that process to occur.
00:47:05.92\00:47:07.92
But does He
want us to apply them
00:47:07.96\00:47:09.89
to our body as appendages?
00:47:09.92\00:47:11.36
I think that's where
the pride of life comes in,
00:47:11.39\00:47:13.83
and we must allow the
Holy Spirit to separate us
00:47:13.86\00:47:16.13
from that
selfish type of thinking.
00:47:16.16\00:47:18.57
Wow, that's an
evangelist right there.
00:47:18.60\00:47:22.10
Whenever Ryan
responds to a question,
00:47:22.14\00:47:23.47
he does it enthusiastically.
00:47:23.51\00:47:24.84
I love that.
00:47:24.87\00:47:26.21
And scripturally,
praise the Lord for that.
00:47:26.24\00:47:27.58
And we need people
00:47:27.61\00:47:28.94
with that kind of passion today.
00:47:28.98\00:47:30.31
I just want to
add one thing to it.
00:47:30.35\00:47:31.68
The principle of it
00:47:31.71\00:47:33.05
and this is the powerful thing
00:47:33.08\00:47:34.42
because when you
say what's wrong with...
00:47:34.45\00:47:35.95
Let me just switch it
away from jewelry for a moment.
00:47:35.98\00:47:38.69
The body, our
body is God's temple
00:47:38.72\00:47:41.46
and Ryan mentioned this.
00:47:41.49\00:47:43.39
When you rent a property,
you have to get permission
00:47:43.43\00:47:48.36
from the landlord
to make any changes,
00:47:48.40\00:47:51.53
whether
internally or externally.
00:47:51.57\00:47:53.64
I could imagine just
buying a car and say,
00:47:53.67\00:47:56.00
"You know I want to
change the color of this car."
00:47:56.04\00:47:58.27
And I go to the
dealer next week and say,
00:47:58.31\00:47:59.64
"What happened to
the color of the car?"
00:47:59.67\00:48:01.21
"Well, I bought it. I
just changed the color."
00:48:01.24\00:48:02.58
He said, "Do you
realize that now that coating
00:48:02.61\00:48:04.85
I put on the car has
just been null and void
00:48:04.88\00:48:06.82
because you
violated my contract?"
00:48:06.85\00:48:09.78
We have to keep in mind that
00:48:09.82\00:48:11.15
God has made a contract with us,
00:48:11.19\00:48:13.09
internally and externally.
00:48:13.12\00:48:14.82
So somebody might say,
"Well, is smoking a bad thing?
00:48:14.86\00:48:18.23
Can I do one cigarette at a time
00:48:18.26\00:48:21.26
or maybe drugs here and there?"
00:48:21.30\00:48:23.47
The body of God that
He made is His temple,
00:48:23.50\00:48:26.90
so the outside and
the inside belongs to God.
00:48:26.94\00:48:29.90
And really jewelry is not
00:48:29.94\00:48:32.14
just about the ornamentation,
00:48:32.17\00:48:34.24
but it's about
recognizing the temple of God
00:48:34.28\00:48:36.75
that it belongs to Him.
00:48:36.78\00:48:38.11
And He as the owner has told us
00:48:38.15\00:48:40.35
to keep it clean both
internally and externally.
00:48:40.38\00:48:42.95
And really all you have to do
00:48:42.98\00:48:44.32
nowadays to be weird is not have
00:48:44.35\00:48:45.69
a tattoo or wear jewelry.
00:48:45.72\00:48:47.39
This is a true statement.
00:48:47.42\00:48:48.76
Honestly, that's
all you have to do
00:48:48.79\00:48:50.63
nowadays is to be
weird not to be normal,
00:48:50.66\00:48:53.19
but to be weird.
00:48:53.23\00:48:54.56
That is true.
00:48:54.60\00:48:55.93
Shelley, we're
going to come to you.
00:48:55.96\00:48:57.30
"Can my prayers bring
about a change in a person,
00:48:57.33\00:49:00.04
who has a personality
disorder like narcissism?"
00:49:00.07\00:49:03.74
Hmm, what a question.
00:49:03.77\00:49:06.57
I'm going to hear that one.
00:49:06.61\00:49:08.78
I'm all ears.
Oh, yeah, all ready.
00:49:08.81\00:49:10.88
Let me just say this.
00:49:10.91\00:49:13.52
In Isaiah 59, there's
a wonderful scripture,
00:49:13.55\00:49:18.95
well, it's a sad
scripture, verse 16.
00:49:18.99\00:49:23.49
God is looking down and it says,
00:49:23.53\00:49:26.06
"He saw that there was
no man and he wondered that
00:49:26.09\00:49:31.77
there was no intercessor."
00:49:31.80\00:49:34.27
Have you ever
wondered what God wondered?
00:49:34.30\00:49:36.71
I think He wondered
why no one had enough faith
00:49:36.74\00:49:41.11
to believe He
could do something.
00:49:41.14\00:49:43.35
And secondly, He wondered
00:49:43.38\00:49:46.95
why no one cared
enough to intercede.
00:49:46.98\00:49:50.59
If you are praying for
anyone, is that powerful?
00:49:50.62\00:49:56.42
Absolutely.
00:49:56.46\00:49:57.79
In Hebrews 7:25, it
tells us, in my interpretation,
00:49:57.83\00:50:03.47
that intercessory prayer
00:50:03.50\00:50:05.70
is the highest
calling to ministry
00:50:05.73\00:50:08.00
that there is
because it is the ministry
00:50:08.04\00:50:10.31
of our risen and exalted Savior.
00:50:10.34\00:50:13.04
In Hebrews 7:25 it says that
00:50:13.07\00:50:15.58
He is able to
save to the uttermost
00:50:15.61\00:50:19.61
those who come
to God through Him,
00:50:19.65\00:50:21.78
since He always lives
to intercede for them.
00:50:21.82\00:50:26.19
And here's how I explain it.
00:50:26.22\00:50:29.42
A God of love created
us as agents of freewill.
00:50:29.46\00:50:35.60
So you know what He does?
00:50:35.63\00:50:36.97
He puts handcuffs of
love on His own hands
00:50:37.00\00:50:42.40
and when someone...
00:50:42.44\00:50:43.77
And I'll use my
sister as an example.
00:50:43.81\00:50:45.94
My sister was a
drug addict for 15 years,
00:50:45.97\00:50:49.74
and I prayed and
I say, "Oh, Lord."
00:50:49.78\00:50:53.92
Psalm 129:4 says,
"You are righteous that
00:50:53.95\00:50:57.19
you cut us free from
the cord of the wicked
00:50:57.22\00:50:59.12
that bind us.
00:50:59.15\00:51:00.49
Oh Lord, cut her free."
00:51:00.52\00:51:02.62
I said, "Oh, Lord, open her eyes
00:51:02.66\00:51:04.46
and turn her
from darkness to light
00:51:04.49\00:51:06.39
from the power of Satan to You
00:51:06.43\00:51:08.10
that she can find an inheritance
00:51:08.13\00:51:10.93
among those who are
sanctified by faith in You."
00:51:10.97\00:51:14.50
And I would claim
God's scriptures over her.
00:51:14.54\00:51:18.64
And you know what that does?
00:51:18.67\00:51:20.88
God would not force
Himself on my sister
00:51:20.91\00:51:24.05
but in answer to my prayers,
00:51:24.08\00:51:26.05
He unlocked His cuffs
00:51:26.08\00:51:27.85
and He started
working in her life
00:51:27.88\00:51:30.65
in an amazing way.
00:51:30.69\00:51:32.02
And she said, I mean,
00:51:32.05\00:51:33.72
she came to know the Lord
00:51:33.76\00:51:35.09
and quit a
15-year habit overnight
00:51:35.12\00:51:38.16
and stay drug free for
30 years until she died.
00:51:38.19\00:51:40.76
Praise the Lord.
00:51:40.80\00:51:42.13
But she always said to
me, "Had you not prayed for me
00:51:42.16\00:51:47.00
I think I would
have been dead by now."
00:51:47.04\00:51:49.40
And so, yes, you
have to realize that
00:51:49.44\00:51:55.14
anytime you're working
00:51:55.18\00:51:56.64
with a mental
disorder, they need counseling.
00:51:56.68\00:52:00.72
They need...
00:52:00.75\00:52:02.08
If it's a brain
chemistry, they may need drugs.
00:52:02.12\00:52:04.62
But yes, pray
for them and ask God
00:52:04.65\00:52:08.72
to get them the help
they need here on earth.
00:52:08.76\00:52:11.39
Amen. Thank you so
much. That's powerful.
00:52:11.43\00:52:13.56
Pastor Johnny,
we're coming back to you.
00:52:13.60\00:52:16.00
"How do you explain to a friend
that the feasts of the Jews
00:52:16.03\00:52:20.50
as the Apostle John called them,
00:52:20.54\00:52:22.34
have been
fulfilled in Christ Jesus?"
00:52:22.37\00:52:24.74
And this question
comes from Florida.
00:52:24.77\00:52:27.94
This is a good question
00:52:27.98\00:52:29.31
because this thing is brought up
00:52:29.34\00:52:31.88
by different
groups from time to time.
00:52:31.91\00:52:34.12
And in the
limited time that we have,
00:52:34.15\00:52:36.15
I like to say to you that yes,
they were fulfilled in Christ.
00:52:36.18\00:52:38.92
All of the feast and
all of the sacrifices
00:52:38.95\00:52:42.96
were fulfilled by Christ.
00:52:42.99\00:52:44.73
And there is a scripture that
00:52:44.76\00:52:46.23
helps us to see that,
00:52:46.26\00:52:47.60
and I'd like to
point that out to you.
00:52:47.63\00:52:49.03
And that is found in the
Book of 1 Corinthians Chapter 5
00:52:49.06\00:52:53.34
talking about the
Feast of Passover.
00:52:53.37\00:52:57.77
1 Corinthians 5:7,
00:52:57.81\00:53:01.48
is the place to
go and here it is.
00:53:01.51\00:53:06.31
This is what
the Bible says here.
00:53:06.35\00:53:07.68
"Therefore, let
us keep the feast
00:53:07.72\00:53:09.55
not with old leaven,
00:53:09.58\00:53:11.29
with the leaven of malice,
00:53:11.32\00:53:13.46
but with the leaven
of unleavened bread."
00:53:13.49\00:53:15.22
And that's actually
verse 8, the verse 7 actually.
00:53:15.26\00:53:18.16
"Therefore, purge
out the old leaven
00:53:18.19\00:53:20.00
that you may be a new lump,
since you truly are unleavened.
00:53:20.03\00:53:23.90
For indeed, Christ,
00:53:23.93\00:53:25.30
our Passover was
sacrificed for us."
00:53:25.33\00:53:29.24
Since Christ our
Passover was sacrificed for us,
00:53:29.27\00:53:32.81
there's no need to
be sacrificing lambs
00:53:32.84\00:53:36.08
or any animals because
Christ has done it all.
00:53:36.11\00:53:39.51
This is the place to begin.
00:53:39.55\00:53:41.45
And He fulfilled
each and every one of us,
00:53:41.48\00:53:45.09
each and every
one of these feasts
00:53:45.12\00:53:46.76
and there's no...
00:53:46.79\00:53:48.12
And each and every one
00:53:48.16\00:53:49.49
of the feast
included a sacrifice.
00:53:49.52\00:53:51.53
So Christ fulfilled all these
in the short time that we have.
00:53:51.56\00:53:56.56
The beauty of all the feast
00:53:56.60\00:53:58.87
is they're all
pointing to Christ.
00:53:58.90\00:54:00.84
Christ is our Passover.
00:54:00.87\00:54:02.20
He's the one that delivered us.
00:54:02.24\00:54:03.74
He's the one
that is our sacrifice
00:54:03.77\00:54:06.47
and He's the
one that is outlined
00:54:06.51\00:54:09.54
in all of a sacrificial
system and all the feast.
00:54:09.58\00:54:12.68
Amen. Thank you so much.
00:54:12.71\00:54:14.65
We're almost out of time,
00:54:14.68\00:54:16.02
we just have a
couple minutes left.
00:54:16.05\00:54:17.85
And what I want to do now
00:54:17.89\00:54:19.22
is toss a
question to all of you.
00:54:19.25\00:54:20.86
And this
question has not come in,
00:54:20.89\00:54:22.52
so we're just
going to throw it out
00:54:22.56\00:54:23.99
and then whoever
wants to jump in.
00:54:24.03\00:54:25.79
This is the Adventist
Virtual Global Camp Meeting,
00:54:25.83\00:54:29.26
so we presume that
most people watching
00:54:29.30\00:54:32.30
are Seventh-day
Adventist Christians.
00:54:32.33\00:54:33.97
How do we witness?
00:54:34.00\00:54:35.34
I guess that's my question.
00:54:35.37\00:54:36.71
How do we share our faith?
00:54:36.74\00:54:38.37
How do we share
Jesus in our community
00:54:38.41\00:54:41.98
or in our neighbors
or to people around us?
00:54:42.01\00:54:45.05
So if someone were to
ask you, "I want to witness,
00:54:45.08\00:54:48.58
but I'm not sure
how or I'm afraid
00:54:48.62\00:54:50.52
or I don't know what to do."
00:54:50.55\00:54:51.92
How do we witness?
00:54:51.95\00:54:53.42
I think the first
thing you have to do is pray
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for the Holy Spirit to
be poured into your life.
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You know, the
Bible says in Acts 1:8,
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"When the Holy
Spirit is poured out on you,
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you shall be witnesses."
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If we look at witness as
an act or five steps that
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we have to follow,
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we're doing it in
the power of humanity,
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and we'll get
frustrated very quickly.
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But when we do it as
the day of Pentecost,
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equip the disciples
who had the knowledge
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of being with Jesus,
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then prison wouldn't stop you,
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threats won't stop,
being jailed won't stop you,
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people that hate what
you say wouldn't stop you.
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The key to being an effective,
consistent witness is praying
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for the Spirit of God
to take over your life
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and cause you to
fear nothing but death,
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worship no one but God
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and proclaim nothing
but the undiluted truth.
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Amen.
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I just want to add
to that, this thought.
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We have to speak
the truth in love.
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You know, sometimes people
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will take Ellen White
quotes out of context,
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you know, from a compiled work.
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Or they'll take a
scripture from the Bible,
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and it's just like
they're beating somebody
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over the head, to
say, "You got to do this.
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This is what the Bible
says." And you know what?
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You cannot beat
somebody over their head
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with a fiddle to convince
them how beautiful the music is.
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If your heart is
not flowing with love,
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then you're never going
to be an effective witness.
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Amen.
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I just want to add
to that really quickly.
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The only method that
I've ever seen to work
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and witnessing to
people the correct way is
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what we find in
Ministry of Healing, page 143.
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And she says,
"Christ method alone
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will give true success
in reaching the people.
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The Savior mingled with men
as one who desired their good.
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He showed His sympathy for them,
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ministered to their needs,
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and won their
confidence then he bade them,
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'Follow me.'"
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So Christ method alone,
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when you pour out
your heart in the way that
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Christ did to the
people around Him,
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and you become a friend to them.
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Friendship evangelism is key.
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Create friendships with them.
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And when you create
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that beautiful
Christ-lead friendship,
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then they will come to trust you
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to share with them
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the truth that's
found in God's Word.
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Amen. Amen.
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That's wonderful.
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I would suggest to
get acquainted with Jesus,
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read the gospels,
read the Desire of Ages,
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and get full of
Jesus so that you can share
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Jesus with the people.
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And this quote is
key to understanding
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how to witness to people.
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Amen.
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Thank you all so much
for sharing your insight
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into the Word of God,
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your knowledge of God's Word,
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and most importantly,
your love for Jesus.
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It comes through
and what a privilege
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it is to open up God's Word
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and to share
with each one of you.
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So thank you, Pastor Johnny,
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and Pastor Ryan,
Shelley, and Pastor John.
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And we're just so
glad that you have tuned
00:57:53.37\00:57:55.94
and that you have
joined this 3ABN Bible Q and A.
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We do this
actually, every Monday.
00:57:59.94\00:58:01.54
We do a 3ABN Today
program that's a Bible Q and A.
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We also have our
Sabbath School panel.
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It's not
necessarily the same concept,
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but we follow the quarterly
00:58:09.05\00:58:10.59
put out by the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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and study that weekly.
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So the key in
all of this is that
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we need to open
up the Word of God.
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We need to study and
know Jesus for ourselves.
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So God bless you and keep you.
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