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Hello Friends and welcome
to the General Conference
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Virtual Global Camp Meeting.
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This is a Seventh-day Adventist
world-wide Camp Meeting
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and we want to welcome
you to this special session
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of 3ABN Bible Q and A.
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During this hour, you will
be able to submit your questions
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via the Chat Section
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so look there
around your screen...
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find that Chat Section
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and start
submitting your Bible questions
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because we have a
wonderful Panel here
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that is locked and
loaded and ready to go.
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They have their Bibles
and they're ready to give you
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a Bible answer
for your questions
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and so, without further ado,
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why don't I go ahead and
introduce our Panel here,
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I'm excited about this.
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Again, this is the
3ABN Bible Q and A Session
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for the Global Camp Meeting
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but many of these faces
you may notice from the 3ABN...
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the 3ABN Bible Q
and A new Program
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that we just recently launched.
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Also, the 3ABN
Sabbath School Panel
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which is a popular
Program here at 3ABN
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which we're so
blessed to be a part of
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and many, many other
3ABN Bible Today Programs
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and many, many other
wonderful Programs as well.
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So, to my left, we
have Ms. Shelley Quinn
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and it's always a
blessing to have you Sister.
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Shelley: It's always
a blessing to be here.
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Ryan: And tell us
what you do here at 3ABN.
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I'm the Program
Development Manager...
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do a little bit of everything.
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Ryan: Wearing multiple hats...
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I think that's probably
true for all of us, right?
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Okay, to your left we
have Pastor John Lomacang,
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Pastor of the Thompsonville
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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here in Southern Illinois
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and tell us also what you
do here for 3ABN, Brother.
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John: Well I... I am the
Director of World Evangelism
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for 3ABN... I'm the
Pastor of the Church
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I'm also the Pastor in
the Illinois Conference
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so, I have on a number of hats
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but then, we do so many
things here as Shelley said,
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just pick the day and
we'll have a different hat on.
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Panel: Laughter.
Ryan: Amen praise the Lord
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and to your left
is Ms. Jill Morikone,
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our Vice
President... COO of 3ABN
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and... I mean... I'm almost...
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I don't know if I
should ask you what you do
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because you do
everything here at 3ABN
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but it's also a blessing
to have you here, Ms. Jill.
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Jill: I do a little bit of
everything... but what a joy!
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You know, we get to
study together a lot
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on 3ABN Sabbath School Panel...
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on the Bible Q and A
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and it's just a joy to
open up the Word of God
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it's a joy to study together
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and we are so delighted
that you have joined us
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and are looking
forward to your questions.
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Ryan: Hmmm... praise the
Lord and way down there...
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at the far end of the
table, Pastor John Dinzey.
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You are the General
Manager of 3ABN Latino
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and it's always a blessing
to have you as well, Brother.
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John: It's a pleasure
and a blessing to be here
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and God is good
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and He's going to
provide us Bible answers.
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Ryan: Amen...
straight from the Bible.
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As you know, the
Bible makes it very clear...
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2nd Timothy
chapter 2 verse 15...
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to study to show
thyself approved,
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a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed,
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rightly dividing
the word of truth
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and that's what we are
going to pray for today
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that the Lord uses
us... give us the Holy Spirit
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to answer your Bible questions
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so, again, we're
just now tuning in...
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I know we have... kind of
staggering numbers coming in
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at different times
throughout the Program.
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Be sure to submit your
question via the Chat Section
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and we will try to get to those
answers during this Program.
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So, without further ado,
let's go ahead and have a prayer
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and get right into it
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and Pastor Lomacang, I'm
going to ask you to pray for us.
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Lomacang: Sure.
"Loving Father in heaven,
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what a blessing it is to
be able to open our hearts
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as we open our Bibles
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and we pray that You will
speak to the hearts of those
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who are looking for
answers from Your holy Word.
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Enlighten us but also empower us
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with the answers
that are relevant...
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that are... that are
led by your Holy Spirit
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and we will be careful Lord,
to give all the praise and honor
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just to You for the work
that You will accomplish.
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In Your holy
name we pray, amen. "
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Ryan: Amen, praise the Lord.
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I realize I didn't
even introduce myself...
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there may be someone
who doesn't know who I am...
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I guess I should
tell... feels weird but
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my name is Ryan Day.
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I'm a... I represent the
3ABN Pastoral Department here
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and it's a
privilege and an honor
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to be a part of this
incredible worldwide ministry...
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Three Angels
Broadcasting Network.
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We're all about
the everlasting gospel
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as this message right now
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and many, many others are
going all around the world,
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we are trying to fulfill
working and co-laboring with God
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and His Spirt to take the gospel
to the... to all the world
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because we know that
Jesus is soon to come
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but we have Bible questions...
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I have a few right here already
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again, continue to
submit those questions
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via the Chat Section below,
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I think it's somewhere below
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but you find that Chat Section
and submit your Bible questions
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and we will get to
those during this hour.
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I'm going to
launch right into this...
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in fact, I'm going to
come to you Pastor Dinzey
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way down there at the end
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and this question is to
you Brother and it says:
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How can you keep
Yahweh's true Sabbath
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using a pagan calendar?
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I believe the
Luni-Solar Calendar
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is the Creator's Calendar.
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So, the idea of
the... the calendars
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along with the
Sabbath-keeping concept... so.
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Dinzey: This is a
very good question,
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you know about...
maybe 12 years ago or more
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some studies came to 3ABN
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presenting some similar idea
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and different
studies come to 3ABN
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and so, when I
started looking at this...
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it was very interesting to me
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and they were presenting an idea
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that we were keeping the
Sabbath on the wrong day.
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So, this
launched me into a search
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that actually I
wound up in Israel
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even searching this out.
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Spoke to Rabbis and did some
historical looking into this
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and I can tell you, the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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has plenty of information
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to let you know that
the seventh day of today
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is the Sabbath that has
been kept throughout history.
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In fact, we have records
of some Scientists that...
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that say that even if
you lose all the calendars
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and you lose all track of
which day of the week it is...
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through the study
of the heavenly bodies,
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they can find the day exactly
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that we are living in presently
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so, the idea
that for some reason
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the Lord has kept this
hidden till the end of time
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to find out which
day of the Sabbath is
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by coming up with
these Lunar calendars or...
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or what does he call it?
A Lunar-Solar calendar is...
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is a... is a... is a stretch...
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I know you want
to do the Lord's will
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but please understand
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that God has not kept the
seventh-day Sabbath a secret.
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In fact,
throughout... many nations
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the seventh day
has exactly the name
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that identifies the day of
rest in more than 100 languages.
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The seventh day is
identified by the word "rest"
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even in... even in the
language of Spanish that I speak
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is Sábado...
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Cybbota... I
think it's in Russian
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and even... even the Brazilians,
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Brazilians... they do
not have names of the...
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of the week like we have...
Sunday, Monday, Tuesday...
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They have: First Day,
Second Day, Third Day,
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but interestingly enough, when
they come to the Seventh-day,
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they call it: Sábado...
the Sabbath... the day of rest.
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So, I can share more about this
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but I think we have
time for more questions.
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Ryan: Sure, I
appreciate that answer, Brother,
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thank you so much
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and by the way, that
question came from Ray
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and, Ray, we appreciate
your submitting that question.
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Shelley, I'm going to come
to you for this next question.
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The question is:
Exodus 19 verses 5 through 6
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and 1st Peter Chapter 2 verse 9
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talks about us being
God's special treasure...
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a royal priesthood...
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a holy people.
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I know God's Word is
true for He cannot lie
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but I don't feel like royalty.
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Everything I
do... I question myself.
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I don't feel
like I'm doing enough.
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Not being totally obedient...
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calling myself a hypocrite...
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I'm working...
sorry, they're asking:
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Am I working for my salvation
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even though I know
salvation is not of works?
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Quinn: Sherry, I just want you
to know that I've been there.
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I've done that
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and here's what I
would have to say to you.
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In 2nd
Corinthians 10 verses 4 and 5,
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it talks about us
putting on the full armour
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and casting down
every vain imagining.
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We can't go by feelings first
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but there is such a thing
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as getting in a
performance mentality.
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Two things I would
recommend that you do.
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First, pray and ask God to
give you a divine awareness
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of His presence,
He is with you always.
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Then, start speaking
God's Word over your life
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because that will
cause your way of thinking
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to line up with
His way of thinking.
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2nd Corinthians 1:20 says
that all of God's promises
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are "yes" and
"amen" in Christ Jesus
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and this Word
is alive and active
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and sometimes when
people first start speaking
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affirmations from
Scripture and praying it,
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they'll feel like a hypocrite
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but what happens is,
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there is power of life
and death in your tongue,
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and as you speak God's
Word and begin to understand
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how much He loves you
and who you are in Christ,
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like Paul said,
1st Corinthians 15:10,
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"I am what I am by
the grace of God... "
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but when you understand
how much He loves you,
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your obedience will
be motivated by love.
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Everything in your
life will begin to change.
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So, I encourage you to
do both of those things.
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Pray for divine awareness
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and start speaking
God's Word over your life.
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Ryan: Amen, thank
you so much Sherry
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for submitting that question.
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All right, Ms. Jill Morikone,
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we're going to come to
you next with this question.
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This question comes
from Alba from Nicaragua
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and Alba asks: If the husband
is sanctified by his wife
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and vice versa,
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what about the responsibility
that salvation is personal?
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Morikone: It's a great question,
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thank you, Alba, so
much for submitting that
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and for tuning
in and for watching.
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Let's turn to 1st
Corinthians chapter 7.
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If you look at the
book of 1st Corinthians
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especially 1st
Corinthians 5, 6 and 7,
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we see that the
Christians in Corinth
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were not at all
shocked by immorality.
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We see that the moral condition
of the Roman world at that time
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had reached... you
can say an all-time low.
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If fact, Paul
counsels in 1st Corinthians 5
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and he tells the believers that
if you have sexual relations
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with your father's
wife, that's an issue.
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In 1st Corinthians 6, he says,
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"If you have sexual
relations with a prostitute,
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that is an issue. "
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Of course, we would
say, "Well, that's Biblical,
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we understand that. "
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So, by the time we
get to 1st Corinthians 7,
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the Christians were
wondering were they sinning
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if they were married
to an unbelieving spouse.
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There were many Christians...
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they had become Christians
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and maybe their
spouse was an unbeliever.
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The passage you're referencing
in 1st Corinthians 7,
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we pick it up in verse 12.
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"But to the rest
I, not the Lord, say:
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If any brother has a
wife who does not believe,
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and she is
willing to live with him,
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let him not divorce her. "
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In other words, he
is unequally yoked...
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he is married to
someone who is not a believer.
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"And a woman who has a
husband who does not believe,
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if he's willing to live with
her, let her not divorce him.
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For the unbelieving husband
is sanctified by the wife,
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and the unbelieving wife
is sanctified by the husband;
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otherwise your
children would be unclean,
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but now they are holy. "
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He's saying, of
course, that the children
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of a husband and wife...
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one being a
believer... one an unbeliever...
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that they're not
born out of wedlock
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because that is
still a one-flesh union
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but he's not saying
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that you can
actually sanctify...
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you can save your spouse.
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What he is saying is
that you have influence.
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You have an influence
over that unbelieving spouse
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and you can witness to them.
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You can share Jesus to them.
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In 1st Peter 3, it
talks... Paul... Peter...
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talks about the incredible
opportunity that wives have...
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even without a word to
influence their husband
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who doesn't know God
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to influence them for Jesus.
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So, the opportunity...
we see that in verse 16,
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"How do you know, O wife,
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whether you will
save your husband?"
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Or "How do you know, O husband,
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whether you
will save your wife?"
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So, that
privilege and opportunity
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to pray for your spouse
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and to witness to them
even by not speaking to them
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but just being a Godly example.
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Ryan: Hmmm... amen, thank you
for that Jill, appreciate that.
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All right, Pastor
Lomacang, we're coming to you.
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This next question comes
from Cynthia in Minnesota
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and Cynthia's
question is a good one.
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She says: Pastor, my
brother wants to be baptized.
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My mother has prayed
for him for many years
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but he doesn't want to
become a member of a church.
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He loves the Lord
and prays but is a loner
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and never goes anywhere.
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Can he be baptized
without joining a church?
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Lomacang: Well,
baptism is to the Christian
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what marriage is to
the husband and the wife.
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Jill: Okay.
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Lomacang: You could be... you
can't be a husband by yourself.
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You can't be a wife by yourself.
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It is at least a
union of one other person
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and when the
Bible talks about...
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in the book of Acts...
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what made Acts such a
beautiful experience is...
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the Lord added to the church
daily those who were being saved
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and then He
made it very clear...
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He never spoke about individuals
by themselves being the church.
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Jesus, in John 10:16
says, "Other sheep I have
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that are not of this fold. "
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The word "fold" there
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is not a singular
person being spoken of
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but "of this flock"
is another terminology
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that is used in
the King James Version.
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So, he that believeth and
is baptized shall be saved.
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So, if you're baptized,
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the question I really would
ask is: what is causing you
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to be reticent
about joining the church
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because the church is
God's body on earth...
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the church is the
fellowship of believers.
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The word used in the Bible
is: Koinonia... fellowship.
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You can't have
fellowship by yourself.
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I challenge you to do that now.
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If you have
fellowship by yourself,
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there may be
something wrong there.
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Now, it's okay to
be you in Christ alone
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but baptism is...
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first of all an entrance
into a relationship with Christ.
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But those who are in a
relationship with Christ
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are part of a fellowship
of community of believers.
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So, when Jesus
established a church,
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in the book of Acts, the church
continued to grow so quickly
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from 3,000 to 5,000
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to the point where the Bible
says: multitudes were added
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and Revelation talks
about the churches...
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a number which no man can number
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then also, the 144,000
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so, nowhere in
Scripture does the Bible say:
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go ahead and get baptized
and just remain isolated.
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Now, if you can't function
in a crowd, that's one thing
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but it doesn't recommend that
you get baptized and just say,
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"I'm going to serve the Lord
without joining anything... "
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you will quickly
die like a branch
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that has been
separated from the vine.
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Ryan: Hmmm... amen... thank
you so much Pastor for that.
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And again, we just want
to encourage you as we have
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questions coming in.
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You probably have
just now joined us
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We have people that are at
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so, please send us your
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and we will try to get
a Bible answer for that
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right here during this hour
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and so, I'm going to go ahead
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and move on to
Pastor John Dinzey...
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all the way down there at
the end of this long table.
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It's a big
table... but I like it...
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it's a beautiful table though,
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all right, and so,
Pastor Dinzey this person says:
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Who is the remnant church
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according to the book of
Revelation in chapter 12?
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Dinzey: In the book
of Revelation chapter 12,
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you have a lot of history
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going back even to heaven
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and it goes in and out
but in Revelation 12:17,
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the words are here
in the New King James
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written this way,
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"And the dragon was
enraged with the woman,
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and he went to make war
with the rest of her offspring,
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who keep the commandments of God
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and have the
testimony of Jesus Christ. "
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The King James
Version uses the word:
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the remnant of her seed
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and I want to talk
about that for a moment
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because the question
is: who is the remnant?
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And here in this Scripture
you notice that it says...
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the word "remnant"
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let's talk about
that word "remnant"
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the definition is: that
which remains of something
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and normally the
best example there...
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people say, "Oh
yes, I understand now,
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is when you
say: a carpet remnant
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and that which is left...
the very last part the bolt
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that had all the... and you...
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you got a special on that
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but the remnant is
like the original...
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it has the same characteristics
as that which it was a part of,
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so, when it says that
the dragon went to make war
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with the woman and
the remnant of her seed,
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that means, he is
trying to destroy...
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do away the seed...
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those that want to
be faithful to God...
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those that have the
characteristics of the seed
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because it says,
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"went to make war with
the remnant of her seed. "
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Now, who is the seed?
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I would say to you
the seed is Jesus Christ.
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The seed... the
offspring is Jesus Christ
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and those that
want to be like Jesus
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and be faithful to God...
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then those are the ones
he wants to make war with.
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So, I now bring you to a book,
John chapter 15 and verse 10,
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what did Jesus do?
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"If you keep My
commandments" He said,
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you will abide in My love,
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just as I have kept
my Father's commandments,
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and abide in His love. "
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And this ties us in to
Revelation 12: 17 very well
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because it identifies them...
in Revelation 12:17 it says,
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"Those that keep
the commandments of God
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and have the
testimony of Jesus Christ. "
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We don't have time to talk about
the testimony of Jesus Christ,
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you asked about the Remnant
and that's who they are...
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those that want
to be faithful to God
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and keep His commandments.
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Ryan: Hmmm...
amen, praise the Lord.
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Again, you're watching
3ABN Bible Questions and Answers
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so, please... if
you have a question,
00:18:18.43\00:18:20.40
submit it into the Chat Section
00:18:20.46\00:18:21.93
and we will get a Bible
answer for that question.
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I'm going to come
to you Ms. Shelley,
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this question is
coming from Bob and Bob says:
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God has the three
attributes of Omnipotence...
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Omniscience and Omnipresence.
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After Jesus was resurrected
and returned to heaven,
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does He still have
all three attributes
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or did He
forever lose omnipresence
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after having
taken on human form?
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Shelley: Ah, that's a good one,
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we do know that God...
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Philippians 2:5 through 8
explains that God came down
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and became a man...
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He humbled
Himself to become a man
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and to... even to
the point of death...
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obedience to death on the cross.
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When Jesus...
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when God became a man in
the person of Jesus Christ,
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He was limited to being
only one place at one time.
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He... when He was
crucified and resurrected,
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He was
resurrected in glorified flesh
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but He is the last Adam who
stands at the throne of God now,
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He sits at the right hand
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as the new human
representative of mankind.
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So, He went in flesh...
He will return in His flesh
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but let me direct you
to Ephesians chapter 3
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and in Ephesians 3 verse 16,
00:19:47.38\00:19:51.25
Paul's praying
that God would grant you
00:19:51.29\00:19:53.72
according to the
riches of His glory
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to be strengthened with
might through His Spirit
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in your inner man
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that Christ may dwell in
your hearts through faith
00:20:00.73\00:20:04.63
have... and then we're
rooted and grounded in love.
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So, the answer to
your question is...
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even though Christ was
resurrected in glorified flesh
00:20:11.37\00:20:15.31
because He is one
with the Spirit...
00:20:15.34\00:20:18.18
because He has sent the Spirit,
He dwells in our hearts by faith
00:20:18.21\00:20:24.22
through the Holy Spirit
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so, He still has
omnipresence through the Spirit.
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Ryan: Hmmm... amen...
thank you for that... so much.
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All right, Ms. Jill,
we're going to come back to you
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for this next question.
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This comes from
Brigid and Brigid says:
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What if Adam had not partaken
in the consumption of the apple?
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Would we be less sinful people?
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And why is Adam always blamed?
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Jill: That's a great question
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I like that because
sometimes I feel like...
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well, the woman's always blamed.
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So, we're going to
tackle the second half first
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and then come back to the first.
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So, why is Adam always blamed?
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I look at 1st Timothy 2.
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You know, 1st
Timothy 2 verse 14 says,
00:21:02.06\00:21:04.86
"And Adam was not deceived,
00:21:04.89\00:21:06.80
but the woman being deceived
fell into transgression. "
00:21:06.86\00:21:11.30
In other words, Adam made
a conscious deliberate choice
00:21:11.33\00:21:15.74
to step into sin.
00:21:15.77\00:21:18.01
He knew that what he
was doing was wrong...
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he knew it was
against God's counsel...
00:21:21.01\00:21:23.91
what God had told him
00:21:23.95\00:21:25.51
and yet, he chose
the love of a woman...
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or... we can't
get into his head...
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that's what I would say
he chose... I'm not sure
00:21:31.25\00:21:33.56
but he chose that
over the word of God.
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In Genesis 3
verse 17, it says...
00:21:37.63\00:21:40.30
this is God of
course with the...
00:21:40.33\00:21:42.90
the curse coming upon
the serpent and Eve and Adam
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and it says:
"Then to Adam He said,
00:21:46.53\00:21:48.80
"Because you have
heeded the voice of your wife,
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and have eaten from the tree,
which I commanded you, saying,
00:21:51.44\00:21:55.21
'You shall not eat of it... '"
00:21:55.24\00:21:56.58
and then it goes on...
00:21:56.61\00:21:57.95
but we see that Adam listened
to the voice of his wife
00:21:57.98\00:22:00.82
and he stepped
into sin knowingly.
00:22:00.85\00:22:03.75
I think maybe
that's why we could say,
00:22:03.79\00:22:06.65
"Why is Adam always blamed?"
00:22:06.69\00:22:08.02
Because he knew what he was
doing... and he did it anyway.
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Now, to your first question,
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"What if Adam had not partaken
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in the
consumption of the apple?"
00:22:14.53\00:22:16.36
I don't have a Scripture
for this but I do have a quote
00:22:16.40\00:22:20.67
from the Spirit of Prophecy
00:22:20.70\00:22:22.14
that I want to read to you
00:22:22.20\00:22:23.57
and this is from Patriarchs
and Prophets, page 56.
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It says, "She" meaning
Eve "was a part of himself,
00:22:27.94\00:22:32.08
and he could not endure
the thought of separation.
00:22:32.11\00:22:35.92
He did not realize
that the same Infinite Power
00:22:35.95\00:22:39.69
who from the
dust had created him,
00:22:39.72\00:22:42.32
a living beautiful form,
00:22:42.36\00:22:44.13
and had in love
given him a companion,
00:22:44.16\00:22:46.80
would supply her place.
00:22:46.83\00:22:48.90
He resolved to share her fate;
00:22:48.93\00:22:51.43
if she must die, he
would die with her. "
00:22:51.47\00:22:55.10
So, from that
00:22:55.14\00:22:56.47
and maybe the rest of the
pastors would have a Bible verse
00:22:56.50\00:22:58.21
I don't have one
but from that I deduce
00:22:58.24\00:23:00.84
that if Eve had
stepped into sin,
00:23:00.88\00:23:03.41
but not Adam...
00:23:03.45\00:23:04.78
that God would have created
another companion for Adam
00:23:04.81\00:23:09.38
and we would have
continued in holiness.
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Ryan: Hmmm... amen...
thank you so much, Jill
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and again, you're
watching 3ABN Bible Q and A
00:23:14.99\00:23:17.63
and I'm saying this
often because I know...
00:23:17.66\00:23:20.23
having done a
couple of these already
00:23:20.26\00:23:22.06
that there's people coming...
00:23:22.10\00:23:23.43
coming into this with
every minute that passes
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Pastor Lomacang, I'm coming
back to you with the next one,
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this is
pertaining to a Scripture
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in 2nd Thessalonian chapter 2
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and so, this
person... actually this...
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this... this Viewer
says that they are a...
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a continuing and grateful Viewer
and student from California
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and their
question is... they said:
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In 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2,
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verses 7, 8 and 9,
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it speaks about the antichrist
as "Mystery of Lawlessness. "
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Who is the "he"
that restrains...
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then is taken out of the way
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so that the lawless
one will be revealed?
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I need more modern
speech for this verse
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and verses
continuing on through verse 9
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but not sure if
that will help...
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and then they ask: Is Satan
taking himself out of the way?
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I'm confused.
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Lomacang: Okay, well let's...
let's go ahead and read this
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because this is a... a beautiful
revelation of the Scripture.
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I'm going to go ahead and
start with 2nd Thessalonians
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chapter 2
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and then I'm going
to begin with verse 5...
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verse 5 down to verse
12 is the whole context.
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"Do you not remember
that when I was still with you
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I told you these things?
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And now you know
what is restraining,
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that he may be
revealed in his own time. "
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So, we're talking
about a restraining power...
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it's already introduced
before we get to verse 7 and 8.
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"For the mystery of
lawlessness is already at work;
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only He who now restrains
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will do so until He is
taken out of the way. "
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So, when the
Restrainer is removed,
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then the full power
of Satan will be revealed
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and the Bible speaks
about the full power in verse 8
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"And then the
lawless one will be revealed,
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whom the Lord will consume
with the breath of His mouth
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and destroy with the
brightness of His coming... "
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and that destruction
refers to two parties...
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Satan as well as the
Antichrist System on earth
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and it says though... this
System that is being referred to
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that's going to be revealed...
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Satan has been
working on this for some time.
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Verse 9, "The
coming of the lawless one
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is according to
the working of Satan,
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with all power,
signs, and lying wonders... "
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you can go back to Revelation
13 and talk about that...
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it deceived by the
means of those miracles
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which he had power to do
in the side of the beast.
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Now, let's go ahead and ask
a couple of questions here...
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this is very providential.
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Some say... and I'll give
you the two... two versions
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and I'll give you
the one that I think...
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I feel most comfortable with.
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Some say that
this was referring to
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a power that was already
known by the Thessalonians
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because Paul didn't
see a need to explain it.
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He, evidently
made it clear to them
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that there's a
power working here
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that when that power is removed,
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then the one that is being
restrained will be revealed.
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So, Paul didn't
speak in a way that he felt
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he needed to explain to
them what he was referring to
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because they were aware
of that particular power.
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Some say it was
the power of Rome
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but then, if that was the
case, Rome is restraining itself
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and then Rome is
revealing itself when Rome...
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Rome is not going to
take itself out of the way.
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Others say that this
is referring to Christ...
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well, then you
can't restrain Christ
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and Christ is not going to
take Himself out of the way
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so, the question is:
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who is the restrainer
that is eventually removed
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so that Satan has full
control of the final impenitent.
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Let's go to Genesis
chapter 6 and verse 3,
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okay, look at
Genesis 6 and verse 3
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and we find that when you go...
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what's happening
in the days of...
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what happened
in the days of Noah
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is being repeated again.
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Let's watch the...
Genesis 6 and verse 3,
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I'm going to read this
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and the Bible says,
yeah, Genesis 6 verse 3,
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yeah, here it is... it says,
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"And the Lord said,
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'My Spirit shall not
strive with man forever... '"
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or shall not
always strive with man
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"for indeed he is flesh;
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yet his days shall be one
hundred and twenty years. "
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Now, we know... and we
have said this endless times
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that the Spirit of God is
gradually being with... what?
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Panel: Withdrawn.
Lomacang: Withdrawn.
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What happened
when the Spirit of God
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stopped striving
with the antediluvians?
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The Bible says, "Their thoughts
and intents were only evil
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continually... and
what does that reveal?
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The full working of what
Satan has already been doing
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but now, his
power is fully revealed.
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How can I verify that?
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Look at 2nd Timothy
chapter 1 and verse 14,
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2nd Timothy... and
what... what I'm saying here
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is the restraining power
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when you finally
reject the restraining work
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of the Holy Spirit,
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there's nothing else...
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that's why Matthew says,
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"Grieve not the Holy Spirit
whereby you were sealed. "
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When you... when the
Holy Spirit is grieved,
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as was the case with
Ananias and Sapphira,
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the only thing
that follows after that
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was deception or death.
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2nd Timothy 1 and verse 14,
the Apostle Paul says in Timothy
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"That good thing which
was committed to you... "
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notice what he says,
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"kept by the Holy
Spirit who dwells in you. "
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So, the Holy Spirit
is the "keeping power. "
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The Holy Spirit
keeps us... guards us...
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that's why we are
told... and it is so...
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it is so
detrimental that the Bible says,
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"If you speak against
Jesus, that will be forgiven...
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but if you speak
against the Holy Spirit,
00:28:43.28\00:28:45.09
that will not be
forgiven in this life
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nor in the world to come. "
00:28:46.49\00:28:47.82
Ryan: That's right.
00:28:47.86\00:28:49.19
Lomacang: So
what am I saying here?
00:28:49.22\00:28:50.56
The Holy Spirit is
the restraining power
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that is causing men that are
restrained by the Spirit of God
00:28:52.16\00:28:56.06
to be protected...
00:28:56.10\00:28:57.43
but when that
protection is removed,
00:28:57.47\00:28:59.13
then we're
going to see something
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the world has never known
00:29:00.94\00:29:02.40
and now with
the Bible support...
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can I give a
quote from Ellen White?
00:29:03.81\00:29:05.14
Ryan: Sure.
Lomacang: Okay, listen to this,
00:29:05.17\00:29:06.51
this from the
Great Controversy...
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this is under the title... under
the page 36 and paragraph 2.
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It says, "The
records of the past...
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the long process of turmoil,
conflict and revolution,
00:29:14.88\00:29:17.39
the battle and war...
00:29:17.42\00:29:18.75
the confusion of noise the
garments rolled in blood...
00:29:18.79\00:29:21.49
what are these in
contrast to the terror that...
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that... to the
terrors of that day
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when the
restraining Spirit of God
00:29:27.80\00:29:31.23
shall by wholly
withdrawn from the wicked,
00:29:31.27\00:29:32.83
no longer to hold in check
the outburst of human passion
00:29:32.87\00:29:36.24
and Satanic wrath!
00:29:36.27\00:29:37.67
The world will then
behold, as never before,
00:29:37.71\00:29:40.98
the results of Satan's rule. "
00:29:41.01\00:29:42.91
So, what I'm saying
is the restraining power
00:29:42.94\00:29:44.71
is the Holy Spirit...
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when men finally reject that,
00:29:46.11\00:29:47.85
then you can see
what's talked about...
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the deceivableness
of... of unrighteousness
00:29:49.28\00:29:53.12
and those who perish... why?
00:29:53.15\00:29:55.12
because they do not
receive the love of the truth.
00:29:55.16\00:29:57.49
What's the job
of the Holy Spirit?
00:29:57.53\00:29:58.86
When He, the
Spirit of truth, has come,
00:29:58.89\00:30:00.60
He will lead you and
guide you into all truth...
00:30:00.63\00:30:02.06
you reject Him...
the power is removed
00:30:02.10\00:30:03.93
and Satan has final control.
00:30:03.97\00:30:06.03
Ryan: Amen, wow!
It's like a surgeon...
00:30:06.10\00:30:07.94
it was a beautiful presentation.
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Panel: Laughter...
Ryan: Praise the Lord.
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00:30:52.21\00:30:53.62
I trying actually to come
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00:30:53.65\00:30:55.85
this question comes
from Nelson in Uganda
00:30:55.88\00:30:58.39
and Nelson is
wanting to know the meaning
00:30:58.45\00:31:01.42
of Revelation chapter
12 verses 7 through 10.
00:31:01.46\00:31:03.76
Shelley: All right,
let's just turn there and
00:31:03.79\00:31:06.06
first thing I would say, Nelson,
00:31:06.09\00:31:07.93
is that you can't understand
Revelation 7 through 10
00:31:07.96\00:31:11.60
unless you continue to verse 12.
00:31:11.63\00:31:14.00
It comes together as a package.
00:31:14.04\00:31:16.24
Let's just begin there, it says,
00:31:16.27\00:31:18.51
verse 7... Revelation 12:7...
00:31:18.54\00:31:20.41
war broke out in heaven...
00:31:20.44\00:31:22.24
Michael and His angels
fought with the dragon...
00:31:22.28\00:31:26.11
we know the dragon is Satan
00:31:26.15\00:31:27.78
and Michael is
our Lord and Savior.
00:31:27.82\00:31:31.45
I just did an
hour-long sermon on that...
00:31:31.49\00:31:33.72
it's a beautiful teaching.
00:31:33.76\00:31:35.09
But he says... then
the dragon and his angels
00:31:35.12\00:31:38.29
fought, but
they did not prevail,
00:31:38.33\00:31:39.69
nor was a place found for
them in heaven any longer.
00:31:39.73\00:31:43.47
This is... what we
see in verses 7 through 12
00:31:43.50\00:31:48.27
is a concise summary of
the great controversy...
00:31:48.30\00:31:53.07
a cosmic conflict...
00:31:53.11\00:31:54.61
so we know Satan
and his angels...
00:31:54.64\00:31:58.61
a third of the angels
followed Satan in the rebellion
00:31:58.65\00:32:01.42
and we know Isaiah
14 says that he got...
00:32:01.48\00:32:04.55
his pride got
high... lifted up...
00:32:04.59\00:32:07.19
he wanted to be
worshipped like God.
00:32:07.26\00:32:09.79
In Ezekiel 28 says he
was trafficking his lies
00:32:09.82\00:32:14.30
about God being unfair,
00:32:14.33\00:32:16.00
so, Satan and a third of
the angels got kicked out
00:32:16.03\00:32:19.83
even before the
creation of this world
00:32:19.87\00:32:22.04
but then it goes on and it says,
00:32:22.07\00:32:24.17
verse 9... "the
great dragon was cast out,
00:32:24.21\00:32:27.21
that serpent of old,
called the Devil and Satan,
00:32:27.24\00:32:29.31
who deceives the whole world;
00:32:29.34\00:32:30.78
he was cast to the earth,
00:32:30.81\00:32:32.18
and his angels
were cast out with Him.
00:32:32.21\00:32:33.95
Then I heard a loud
voice saying in heaven... "
00:32:33.98\00:32:37.25
so, now, when it says "then"
00:32:37.29\00:32:40.26
we're changing the scenes from
00:32:40.29\00:32:43.16
when Satan was
first kicked out of heaven
00:32:43.19\00:32:45.79
you know what?
00:32:45.83\00:32:47.23
He still had access
as Prince of the World...
00:32:47.26\00:32:50.37
he had access to
the Divine Council.
00:32:50.40\00:32:52.87
You can read that in Job
where he still had that access
00:32:52.90\00:32:56.50
but in verse 10 it says,
00:32:56.54\00:32:59.61
"Then I heard a loud
voice saying in heaven,
00:32:59.67\00:33:03.95
'Now salvation, and strength,
and the kingdom of our God,
00:33:03.98\00:33:06.95
and the power of His
Christ have come... '"
00:33:06.98\00:33:08.75
So, he's gone from...
when Satan was first cast out
00:33:08.78\00:33:12.32
but still had access...
00:33:12.35\00:33:13.76
to now, he is looking at...
after the cross of Calvary.
00:33:13.79\00:33:20.46
Salvation and
strength has come...
00:33:20.50\00:33:23.20
God's plan of
salvation has been proven
00:33:23.23\00:33:26.57
and it says, "the
power of His Christ has come
00:33:26.60\00:33:30.27
for the accuser
of our brethren... "
00:33:30.31\00:33:32.27
that's Satan...
00:33:32.31\00:33:33.64
"who accused them
before our God day and night,
00:33:33.68\00:33:36.18
has been cast down. "
00:33:36.21\00:33:37.75
So, he no longer has that access
00:33:37.78\00:33:40.58
and here's the
beauty... verse 11...
00:33:40.62\00:33:43.39
"they overcame him
by the blood of the Lamb
00:33:43.42\00:33:45.62
and by the word
of their testimony,
00:33:45.65\00:33:47.66
and they did not love
their lives to the death.
00:33:47.72\00:33:51.26
Therefore rejoice, O heavens,
and you who dwell in them!
00:33:51.29\00:33:55.03
But woe to the inhabitants
of the earth and the sea!
00:33:55.06\00:33:59.00
For the devil has come
down to you, having great wrath,
00:33:59.03\00:34:02.90
because he knows
he has a short time. "
00:34:02.94\00:34:06.68
The Divine Council has
given Satan a short time
00:34:06.71\00:34:10.98
to try to prove
his lies against God
00:34:11.01\00:34:13.45
and when this whole
sin experience is over,
00:34:13.48\00:34:18.65
sin will not
rise again Nahum 1:9
00:34:18.69\00:34:21.96
because we will all have seen
00:34:21.99\00:34:25.09
what the real
effects of sin are.
00:34:25.13\00:34:28.20
Ryan: Amen, thank you so much
Jill... I appreciate... ah...
00:34:28.23\00:34:31.17
Ms. Shelley, appreciate
the... I do that all the time,
00:34:31.20\00:34:34.60
I don't know what
I'm thinking of...
00:34:34.64\00:34:36.04
anyways, thank
you for joining us.
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If you're just now tuning in,
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you're watching the
3ABN Bible Q and A Session
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which you can submit
your questions right now
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in the Chat Section below
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and it will come right to us
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and we'll try to get a
Bible answer for that question.
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My friends... let's see...
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I'm going to throw this
next question down the table to
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Pastor John Dinzey
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and Brother
Dinzey, this question is:
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What's the best
version of the Bible to study?
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That is a very good question
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and I personally enjoy
reading the King James Version.
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I peek into the
New King James Version.
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This is a matter of study
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and so, there are
many versions out there
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so it brings confusion.
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Before there was only
one or two to pick from
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but I would say to you
that which you easily understand
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to read is the best version
that will minister to you.
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If you... for me... personally,
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like I said... I like
the King James Version,
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it helps me to... that's
what I basically grew up from...
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grew up reading the
King James Version...
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so I feel this...
this attachment to it.
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But, yes, I look
into other versions
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to see when you're reading it
00:35:46.71\00:35:48.04
and you don't
understand something,
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it's okay to look
into other versions
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to see different reading...
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also, the fact that I
speak Spanish helps me as well
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because I can see how
it's written in English...
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how it's written in
Spanish and in the...
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I am blessed to see insight
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as I read these
different versions
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but one for
study... I would say to you
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you're going to
have to pray about that.
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I know there are
some things out there
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concerning versions
that have been corrupted...
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I would stay away from what you
would call a "Paraphrased Bible"
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because this is really
somebody coming up with a...
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an easy way to
understand the Bible
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and one of the most
popular ones that is out there
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was first written by a man
that wanted to write something
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for his... his young
child to understand the Bible
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and it became... I think it's
called the Good News Version
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or something like that...
I can't recall the exact...
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but he... he was a surprised
to see that people were buying
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this version of the Bible that
he made for his little child.
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So, I would say... stay away
from the paraphrased Bibles.
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You can look at
them for reference
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to see if it
helps your understanding
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but a "thus saith the Lord"
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you're going to have to compare
several versions of the Bible
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and we have many
tools now-a-days.
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You can go into the
Greek and the Hebrew
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and gain insight
as you study the Bible
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but first of all, pray
before you study the Bible
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and ask God to give
you an understanding.
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Ryan: Hmmm...
amen, praise the Lord,
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thank you so much Pastor Dinzey.
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Pastor Lomacang,
I'm going to come to you
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with this next question.
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This person asks: How do you say
that ignoring the Holy Spirit
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is the same as
blasphemy in the...
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in reference to
the unpardonable sin
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and they say here:
Nowhere in the Bible
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I guess is blasphemy compared
to ignoring or not listening.
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Well, actually, I don't
agree with that obviously
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because if the Holy
Spirit is the only one
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that the Bible says:
whereby we are sealed
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unto the day of redemption,
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then how could you
be sealed if you ignore
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or turn your ear
away from the very one
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whose sole work is to do that.
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The Bible makes it clear,
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let's go to John chapter 16
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and let me show you how powerful
00:37:59.84\00:38:02.31
the Bible makes the
work of the Holy Spirit.
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You know, this is
so pertinent now-a-days
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in the light of the controversy
surrounding the Holy Spirit.
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John chapter 16...
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and I'm... I'm
reading from my favorite Bible
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that's falling
apart... I love that...
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I have a lot of
Bibles falling apart
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but I heard a saying that
if your Bible's falling apart,
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you are not.
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Panel:
Laughter... praise the Lord.
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Lomacang: John 16 verse 12,
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Jesus said, "I have
many things to say to you,
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but you cannot bear them now. "
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So, there were
further revelations to come
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and notice who He
appointed these revelations to.
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Notice how He described who the
revelations will come through.
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Verse 13, "However, when He,
the Spirit of truth, has come,
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He will guide
you into all truth;
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for He will not
speak on His own authority,
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but whatever He
hears, He will speak;
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and He will tell
you things to come.
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He will glorify Me,
00:39:01.80\00:39:03.51
for He will take of what is Mine
00:39:03.57\00:39:05.81
and declare it to you.
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All things that the Father
has" the Bible says, "are Mine.
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Therefore I say that
He will take what is Mine
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and will declare it to you. "
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When you look at...
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when you look at the
work of the Holy Spirit,
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you find... one of the things
that Jesus appoints to Him is
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He's going to
reveal to you more truth
00:39:24.29\00:39:25.86
but it goes even
more deeper than that.
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Let's go further back...
verse 7 of John chapter 16,
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"Nevertheless I
tell you the truth.
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It is to your advantage... "
or expedient... "that I go away;
00:39:36.24\00:39:39.51
for if I do not go away,
the Helper... " or the Spirit...
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"will not come to you;
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but if I depart, I
will send Him to you. "
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Look at what
He's supposed to do...
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"And when He has
come... " verse 8,
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"He will convict
the world of sin,
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and of righteousness,
and of judgment... "
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Ryan: Hmmm...
Lomacang: Now watch this,
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if the convicting voice of
the Spirit of God is shut off...
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that to me is the
highest form of blasphemy.
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Panel: Hmmm...
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Lomacang: People think
that blasphemy just simply means
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I'm claiming that I am
God or that I can forgive sin.
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That's not the only...
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when you look at the word
"blasphemy" it's far broader.
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The reason why those two
examples are very prominent...
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very popular is because
the Jews had accused Jesus
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of claiming to forgive
sins and claiming to heal...
00:40:23.72\00:40:27.56
they said it was a prerogative
that belonged only to God.
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They said He
blasphemed by saying,
00:40:29.56\00:40:32.29
"He has a function that should
only be perpetrated by God. "
00:40:32.33\00:40:37.93
But Jesus said...
00:40:37.97\00:40:39.70
but the apostles
said something...
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Apostle Peter...
when he was being stoned
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he said something that
sealed the fate of the Jews.
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He said, "You are
just like your fathers...
00:40:47.04\00:40:50.05
you resist the Spirit of
God just like they did. "
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And when you look
at that, what happened?
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Their fate was sealed...
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that was the last
appeal to the Jewish leaders
00:40:58.19\00:41:00.52
and their fate was sealed.
00:41:00.56\00:41:01.92
So, blasphemy is
not just claiming to...
00:41:01.96\00:41:04.19
a prerogative that
belongs to God alone,
00:41:04.23\00:41:06.39
but resisting the only
power that can open to your eyes
00:41:06.43\00:41:11.37
what sin is and then
lead you to salvation
00:41:11.40\00:41:14.07
and to an
understanding of the truth.
00:41:14.14\00:41:15.70
So, that's why
Matthew 12 and verse 31 says,
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"Therefore I say to
you, every sin and blasphemy
00:41:19.71\00:41:23.55
will be forgiven men:
00:41:23.58\00:41:25.11
but the blasphemy
against the Spirit
00:41:25.15\00:41:27.42
will not be forgiven men. "
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Ryan: That's right... amen...
thank you Pastor for that.
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All right, Ms. Jill Morikone,
we're coming back to you
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and this person
whose name is Madeline
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and they're asking this
question pertaining to James 4.
00:41:38.69\00:41:42.20
It says: James 4:17
makes it look as though
00:41:42.23\00:41:45.80
knowledge is a liability.
00:41:45.83\00:41:47.57
This makes me feel
concerned for my friends
00:41:47.60\00:41:50.57
who I have shared
the truth of the Sabbath
00:41:50.61\00:41:53.48
and other doctrinal points
clearly presented in Scripture.
00:41:53.51\00:41:56.68
How can one not see
the truth as a liability
00:41:56.71\00:42:00.62
since we are judged according
to the light we have received?
00:42:00.65\00:42:04.32
It almost makes their
prior state more favorable
00:42:04.35\00:42:07.99
than after truth
was presented to them
00:42:08.02\00:42:10.43
and they did not receive it.
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Jill: Thank you so much
Madeline for that question.
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I just want to read James 4:17.
00:42:16.26\00:42:18.40
It says, "Therefore to
him who knows to do good,
00:42:18.43\00:42:21.17
and does not do
it, to him it is sin. "
00:42:21.20\00:42:25.57
I want to flip back to Ezekiel.
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Ezekiel chapter 33...
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we're going to
pick it up in verse 6.
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"If the watchman
sees the sword coming,
00:42:34.32\00:42:36.62
and does not blow the trumpet,
00:42:36.65\00:42:38.75
and the people are not warned;
00:42:38.79\00:42:40.82
and the sword comes and takes
any person from among them,
00:42:40.86\00:42:44.16
he is taken
away in his iniquity;
00:42:44.19\00:42:46.33
but his blood I will
require at the watchman's hand.
00:42:46.36\00:42:52.40
So you, son of man,
00:42:52.43\00:42:54.00
I have made you a watchman
for the house of Israel;
00:42:54.04\00:42:56.91
therefore you shall
hear a word from my mouth,
00:42:56.94\00:42:59.81
and warn them for me. "
00:42:59.84\00:43:02.18
Yes it is true
that we are accountable
00:43:02.21\00:43:05.08
for the knowledge we have
00:43:05.11\00:43:06.92
but if you know truth...
00:43:06.95\00:43:09.18
if you know the Word of God,
00:43:09.25\00:43:11.42
it is your
God-given responsibility
00:43:11.45\00:43:15.26
to share that
truth with someone else
00:43:15.29\00:43:19.03
and if you do not share,
00:43:19.09\00:43:21.36
God will require
that at your hand.
00:43:21.40\00:43:24.93
It is a serious
responsibility to know truth...
00:43:24.97\00:43:28.37
it is a serious
responsibility to share truth.
00:43:28.40\00:43:31.07
I want to share with
you an encouragement.
00:43:31.11\00:43:33.58
If you might be
thinking as you reference...
00:43:33.61\00:43:36.04
well, if I share with them
now... they're responsible...
00:43:36.08\00:43:38.08
is that making them liable?
00:43:38.11\00:43:40.38
What are you sharing with them?
00:43:40.42\00:43:42.65
The Word of God is
quick and powerful.
00:43:42.68\00:43:45.49
Do you want
them to be convicted?
00:43:45.52\00:43:47.22
Share the Word of God.
00:43:47.26\00:43:48.59
The Word of God
has converting power.
00:43:48.62\00:43:51.26
Do you want their
life to be transformed?
00:43:51.29\00:43:54.00
Share with them the Word of God.
00:43:54.03\00:43:56.33
The Word of God is a lamp to our
feet and a light to our path.
00:43:56.36\00:44:00.57
Do you want your
neighbors to stumble?
00:44:00.60\00:44:02.44
Do you want them
to walk in darkness?
00:44:02.47\00:44:04.47
Do you want them
to walk in depression?
00:44:04.51\00:44:06.64
Do you want them
to walk in sadness?
00:44:06.68\00:44:08.91
No...
00:44:08.94\00:44:10.28
I want the people around
me to know the love of Jesus.
00:44:10.31\00:44:14.65
I want the people around me
00:44:14.68\00:44:16.82
to know the peace of Christ
that passes all understanding.
00:44:16.85\00:44:20.16
I want the people around
me to know the Word of God
00:44:20.19\00:44:24.09
and to know that they can
be changed and transformed
00:44:24.13\00:44:27.16
by His Word.
00:44:27.20\00:44:28.60
So, do not be
afraid to speak truth.
00:44:28.63\00:44:31.03
Do not be afraid to share
truth with those around you.
00:44:31.07\00:44:35.04
Ryan: Hmmm...
Panel: Amen... amen.
00:44:35.07\00:44:36.91
Ryan: Praise the Lord...
but to preach a sermon on that,
00:44:36.94\00:44:39.84
it was done
there... amen to that.
00:44:39.87\00:44:42.38
You know, that's a
wonderful thing about
00:44:42.41\00:44:43.75
and as Jill said there...
00:44:43.78\00:44:45.11
the Word of God is
quick... it's powerful...
00:44:45.15\00:44:46.75
it's sharper than
any two-edged sword.
00:44:46.78\00:44:48.25
We don't have to wonder about...
00:44:48.28\00:44:50.22
you know, if there's
answers to these questions
00:44:50.25\00:44:52.09
because God's Word
provides the answers
00:44:52.12\00:44:53.69
and so, again, I
want to encourage you...
00:44:53.72\00:44:55.29
if you're watching
right now and joining us
00:44:55.32\00:44:57.53
in this 3ABN
Bible-Question-and-Answer time,
00:44:57.56\00:44:59.69
submit your question to us
right there in the Chat Section
00:44:59.73\00:45:02.60
they'll bring it out here to us
00:45:02.63\00:45:04.13
and we will
answer it right here.
00:45:04.17\00:45:05.63
I guess we'll keep moving on.
00:45:05.67\00:45:07.90
The next question
is coming from Phil
00:45:07.94\00:45:10.37
and I'm going to ask
you this question, Shelley,
00:45:10.41\00:45:12.77
Phil says: I am thinking that
God gave the Ten Commandments
00:45:12.81\00:45:17.08
each one to counter errors from
the years of slavery in Egypt,
00:45:17.11\00:45:21.35
these ten still help us to
avoid these same sins, so...
00:45:21.38\00:45:26.72
Shelley: Okay,
interesting question...
00:45:26.76\00:45:28.39
I'm not sure I'm going to
answer it to your satisfaction
00:45:28.42\00:45:31.93
but here's what I'll say.
00:45:31.96\00:45:33.43
We know that 1st John
chapter 3 and verse 5 says,
00:45:33.46\00:45:41.04
excuse me...
chapter 3 and verse 4...
00:45:41.07\00:45:45.61
says that whoever commits
sin, commits lawlessness...
00:45:45.64\00:45:50.38
sin is lawlessness.
00:45:50.41\00:45:52.11
Those are sins of commission.
00:45:52.15\00:45:55.18
What Jill was just answering
was James 4:17... says:
00:45:55.22\00:45:59.95
If you know to do
good and you don't do it,
00:45:59.99\00:46:02.32
then that's sin to
you... that's sin of omission.
00:46:02.36\00:46:06.36
Also, the Bible says
00:46:06.39\00:46:07.80
that anything that is
not of faith is sin...
00:46:07.83\00:46:10.37
so, let me ask you
this, did the devil sin?
00:46:10.40\00:46:13.74
God had a law in heaven.
00:46:13.77\00:46:17.87
We see the Ten Commandments...
00:46:17.91\00:46:20.78
all of the commandments
are found in Genesis.
00:46:20.84\00:46:24.91
God didn't just come up
with these Ten Commandments
00:46:24.95\00:46:27.58
at Mount Sinai.
00:46:27.62\00:46:29.22
As a matter of fact, in
Genesis... where is that? 20
00:46:29.25\00:46:33.99
Genesis 26 and verse 5,
00:46:34.02\00:46:38.89
when God was renewing
the Abrahamic Covenant,
00:46:38.93\00:46:43.30
which is the
Covenant of Redemption...
00:46:43.33\00:46:45.53
the Lamb that was slain from
the foundation of the world,
00:46:45.57\00:46:48.87
who would save us by
grace through faith...
00:46:48.90\00:46:52.31
He renew... He... God
renewed this Covenant with Isaac
00:46:52.34\00:46:57.05
and the reason He said...
00:46:57.08\00:46:59.68
even though Abraham was
made righteous by faith,
00:46:59.71\00:47:02.88
the reason he was
renewing the covenant is because
00:47:02.92\00:47:06.02
Abraham obeyed My
voice... kept My charge...
00:47:06.05\00:47:08.99
My Commandments...
My Statutes and My Laws.
00:47:09.02\00:47:11.89
In the Hebrew, the word
for the Ten Commandments
00:47:11.93\00:47:18.93
means: ten words...
00:47:18.97\00:47:21.04
in the Greek, it's the
same... Decalogue... ten words.
00:47:21.07\00:47:25.91
It is given to us in a future
tense and a double negative
00:47:25.94\00:47:30.75
as promises.
00:47:30.78\00:47:32.11
When God came down
00:47:32.15\00:47:33.78
and gave His Ten
Commandments to the people,
00:47:33.82\00:47:36.69
these are commandments
that we find are kept...
00:47:36.72\00:47:39.52
they knew not to have idols
00:47:39.55\00:47:41.39
and knew it was
wrong to murder...
00:47:41.42\00:47:42.89
they knew it was
wrong to commit adultery...
00:47:42.92\00:47:44.93
in the Old... I
mean in Genesis...
00:47:44.96\00:47:48.40
way before Mount Sinai...
00:47:48.43\00:47:50.10
and it's
interesting when He comes down,
00:47:50.13\00:47:52.63
God is saying,
"Hey, you know what?
00:47:52.67\00:47:55.10
You're in covenant
relationship with Me. "
00:47:55.14\00:47:57.51
He's speaking and He's saying,
00:47:57.54\00:47:59.27
"You have no
other God's before Me...
00:47:59.31\00:48:01.34
you will not
bow down to idols...
00:48:01.38\00:48:03.61
you will not take
My name in vain...
00:48:03.65\00:48:05.88
you will remember My Sabbath...
00:48:05.91\00:48:08.72
remember... it's
something they knew before,
00:48:08.75\00:48:11.95
because you're going to rejoice
in spending time with Me.
00:48:11.99\00:48:15.56
You will honor your
mother and father...
00:48:15.59\00:48:18.03
you won't commit murder...
you won't commit adultery...
00:48:18.06\00:48:20.33
you won't steal... you
won't bear false testimony
00:48:20.36\00:48:22.86
and you're not going to covet...
00:48:22.90\00:48:24.23
why? Because that's what living
in covenant relationship with Me
00:48:24.27\00:48:28.34
is all about...
00:48:28.40\00:48:29.84
so, did God
give Ten Commandments
00:48:29.87\00:48:33.04
to go with those years...
00:48:33.07\00:48:35.21
I would say that
the Ten Commandments
00:48:35.24\00:48:38.21
were long before
00:48:38.28\00:48:40.78
and you see a parallel
between the Ten Plagues
00:48:40.82\00:48:44.75
there could likely be.
00:48:44.79\00:48:46.92
Ryan: Hmmm... all right...
00:48:46.96\00:48:48.56
beautiful, beautiful
explanation thank you.
00:48:48.59\00:48:50.39
All right, Pastor
Dinzey, I'm going to come to you
00:48:50.43\00:48:52.89
with this next question.
00:48:52.93\00:48:54.26
This comes from
Jonterrias from Tennessee...
00:48:54.30\00:48:57.07
and he says a very
good question, I think.
00:48:57.10\00:49:00.10
He says: How can
I get re-baptized
00:49:00.14\00:49:03.27
into the
Seventh-day Adventist Church?
00:49:03.30\00:49:06.37
I'm only 17 years old
00:49:06.41\00:49:08.78
and I had been
studying the Bible for months.
00:49:08.81\00:49:11.45
When I found out that the
true Bible Sabbath was Saturday,
00:49:11.51\00:49:15.52
the seventh day of
the week, I was amazed.
00:49:15.55\00:49:18.22
So, they're wanting to know
how can they get re-baptized
00:49:18.25\00:49:20.92
into the
Seventh-day Adventist Church?
00:49:20.96\00:49:22.96
Dinzey: Thank you very much,
that's a wonderful question.
00:49:22.99\00:49:25.43
Praise the Lord for that desire
00:49:25.46\00:49:27.33
and this is something
that you can see the idea
00:49:27.36\00:49:31.20
of re-baptism is
found in the book of Acts
00:49:31.23\00:49:33.30
when one of the Apostles
encounter some people...
00:49:33.34\00:49:38.57
I think it was Paul...
00:49:38.61\00:49:39.94
and they said, "Have you
received the Holy Spirit?"
00:49:39.97\00:49:41.78
"Well, I haven't even
heard of the Holy Spirit... "
00:49:41.81\00:49:43.71
and so he... he
brought this teaching to them
00:49:43.75\00:49:46.48
and... and they
received the Holy Spirit
00:49:46.51\00:49:48.42
and they were baptized.
00:49:48.45\00:49:49.92
So, the idea about re-baptism
when you're coming new knowledge
00:49:49.95\00:49:52.65
is Biblical.
00:49:52.69\00:49:54.12
So, how do you get re-baptized?
00:49:54.16\00:49:55.82
First, I would suggest you talk
to the Pastor of the Church.
00:49:55.86\00:49:59.46
Present your... your
desire to be re-baptized
00:49:59.49\00:50:04.03
and he will ask
you some questions
00:50:04.07\00:50:06.70
about what your beliefs
are to see if you identify
00:50:06.74\00:50:10.31
with the Biblical doctrines
00:50:10.34\00:50:13.61
and maybe want to do
some additional studies,
00:50:13.64\00:50:16.71
perhaps, you may
want to learn some more,
00:50:16.75\00:50:19.78
but re-baptism is
a marvelous idea...
00:50:19.81\00:50:22.78
is a marvelous experience to be
re-baptized in the name of Jesus
00:50:22.82\00:50:26.59
the Father, Son
and the Holy Spirit
00:50:26.62\00:50:28.69
as its in... in
Matthew chapter 28
00:50:28.72\00:50:30.76
and I... first step
again is to talk to the Pastor
00:50:30.79\00:50:34.73
about your desire and
you will see that it's...
00:50:34.76\00:50:38.70
it's a wonderful experience.
00:50:38.73\00:50:40.10
Panel: Amen.
00:50:40.14\00:50:41.60
Ryan: Amen, praise the Lord,
00:50:41.64\00:50:42.97
thank you, Brother, so
much for... for answering that.
00:50:43.00\00:50:44.71
Pastor Lomacang,
I'm going to come to you
00:50:44.77\00:50:46.21
for this next question.
00:50:46.24\00:50:47.58
Lomacang: Okay.
00:50:47.61\00:50:48.94
Ryan: This person says,
comes from Helena, actually
00:50:48.98\00:50:53.21
and they say: I've
had a theory for some time
00:50:53.25\00:50:56.69
about the rebellion in heaven.
00:50:56.72\00:50:58.89
If God had made Gabriel the
Head of all the angels back then
00:50:58.92\00:51:04.33
as he is now...
instead of Lucifer,
00:51:04.39\00:51:07.76
maybe there might not
have been a rebellion.
00:51:07.80\00:51:10.83
What do you think?
00:51:10.87\00:51:12.27
Give me your thoughts on this.
00:51:12.30\00:51:14.50
I'd like to hear the thoughts of
Pastor Lomacang on this topic.
00:51:14.54\00:51:18.97
Would be very appreciative.
00:51:19.01\00:51:21.68
So, they're asking
about the rebellion in heaven
00:51:21.71\00:51:24.91
and the connection to
Gabriel replacing Lucifer, so...
00:51:24.95\00:51:28.42
Dinzey: I've never
heard that question before.
00:51:28.45\00:51:31.15
Lomacang: You had to dig really
deep to get that question.
00:51:31.19\00:51:35.36
You probably didn't
have anything else to do.
00:51:35.39\00:51:37.06
Ryan: That's a
wondering mind, right?
00:51:37.09\00:51:38.83
Lomacang: That comes with
a question that could be...
00:51:38.86\00:51:40.23
let me encourage you
00:51:40.26\00:51:41.66
and I'm going to say
this out of complete respect,
00:51:41.70\00:51:44.73
not in any impact
to your intellect...
00:51:44.77\00:51:48.07
I have seen
children... young children
00:51:48.10\00:51:51.41
corner their dads with questions
00:51:51.44\00:51:54.08
that even the
dad couldn't answer
00:51:54.11\00:51:56.64
because they kept
asking, "Why? Why? Why? Why?"
00:51:56.68\00:52:01.68
Well, this doesn't
necessarily follow the category
00:52:01.72\00:52:03.72
of repetition
00:52:03.75\00:52:05.15
but it's a good
thing to consider.
00:52:05.19\00:52:06.52
But one of the
reasons why I say that...
00:52:06.55\00:52:10.23
what happened did
not catch God by surprise
00:52:10.26\00:52:14.00
is in the book of Isaiah.
00:52:14.03\00:52:16.63
Let's go to Isaiah
00:52:16.67\00:52:18.30
and if I mention the
book, Jill's going to know
00:52:18.33\00:52:20.80
and maybe some of you might
know exactly where I'm going.
00:52:20.84\00:52:23.14
Isaiah 46, okay...
00:52:23.17\00:52:26.57
now, this is...
this is the beauty of it.
00:52:26.61\00:52:31.08
If doing things differently
00:52:31.11\00:52:33.95
would have had a
different outcome,
00:52:33.98\00:52:36.45
then, I could say
by posing this question
00:52:36.48\00:52:39.72
and I want to just
say this very lightly...
00:52:39.75\00:52:42.96
by posing this question...
00:52:42.99\00:52:44.33
this could be one
where God could say today,
00:52:44.36\00:52:46.86
"You know, maybe I
should have done that
00:52:46.90\00:52:49.43
and a lot of things
would have been different.
00:52:49.46\00:52:50.80
However, Isaiah
46 verses 9 and 10,
00:52:50.83\00:52:53.97
gives me a different insight.
00:52:54.00\00:52:55.90
It says that nothing
is surprising to God.
00:52:55.97\00:53:00.14
As a matter of fact...
and we'll go to another one in
00:53:00.18\00:53:02.61
Hebrews 4 verse 6.
00:53:02.64\00:53:03.98
As a matter of fact,
I'll have Jill go to that one
00:53:04.01\00:53:06.51
but look at what
the Bible talks about
00:53:06.55\00:53:09.02
and nothing
catches God by surprise.
00:53:09.08\00:53:12.25
He says in
verse 9 of Hebrews 46,
00:53:12.29\00:53:15.42
"Remember the
former things of old... "
00:53:15.46\00:53:17.36
Jill: Isaiah 46.
00:53:17.39\00:53:18.73
Lomacang: Isaiah
46 verses 9 and 10.
00:53:18.76\00:53:20.10
He says, "Remember the
former things of old... "
00:53:20.13\00:53:22.30
so, if we pause for a moment
and start breaking this down,
00:53:22.33\00:53:24.67
remember how
things used to be...
00:53:24.70\00:53:26.13
remember things way back then...
00:53:26.17\00:53:27.54
"Remember the
former things of old... "
00:53:27.57\00:53:29.17
what we're doing right now is
00:53:29.20\00:53:30.54
considering something...
a former thing... of old.
00:53:30.57\00:53:32.97
He says, "For I am
God, and there is no other;
00:53:33.01\00:53:35.58
I am God, and
there is none like me. "
00:53:35.61\00:53:37.18
He's saying, "Okay,
00:53:37.21\00:53:38.65
so as you consider
the former things of old,
00:53:38.68\00:53:40.35
don't forget... I am God,
and there is none like me. "
00:53:40.38\00:53:43.59
Did the former things of
old catch God by surprise?
00:53:43.62\00:53:48.72
Verse 10, "Declaring
the end from the beginning,
00:53:48.76\00:53:53.76
and from ancient times
things that are not yet done. "
00:53:53.80\00:53:58.63
So, the actions of Lucifer
00:53:58.67\00:54:01.30
and then the subsequent
replacement of Lucifer
00:54:01.37\00:54:04.94
by Gabriel, didn't
catch God by surprise.
00:54:04.97\00:54:07.84
That's one of
the reasons why today
00:54:07.88\00:54:09.74
buildings are built
with fire extinguishers
00:54:09.78\00:54:12.21
and fire alarms.
00:54:12.25\00:54:13.65
We don't know who is
going to be in the building
00:54:13.68\00:54:16.22
when that fire
alarm is activated
00:54:16.25\00:54:17.92
or who is going to need
that fire extinguisher...
00:54:17.95\00:54:20.29
but the provision is made
00:54:20.32\00:54:21.76
and so, we'll look
back and somebody...
00:54:21.79\00:54:23.63
I'll just one of
our camera guys...
00:54:23.66\00:54:25.43
I'll say Ian... he's
Floor Director today...
00:54:25.46\00:54:27.53
maybe Eric...
00:54:27.56\00:54:28.90
one of the guys that are
working behind the scenes
00:54:28.93\00:54:30.57
or maybe one of our
young ladies... Jamie...
00:54:30.63\00:54:32.70
if anything ever
happened to the building,
00:54:32.73\00:54:34.77
any one of
those three could say,
00:54:34.80\00:54:36.47
"I am so glad that
3ABN had the foresight
00:54:36.50\00:54:40.18
to put a fire
extinguisher there.
00:54:40.21\00:54:42.78
What if it wasn't there?
00:54:42.81\00:54:44.45
And then 3ABN can say,
"We thought this could happen,
00:54:44.51\00:54:47.72
so we put those
things in place. "
00:54:47.75\00:54:49.42
God put everything in
place that needed to be there
00:54:49.45\00:54:52.62
because He knew that
these things could occur.
00:54:52.65\00:54:54.86
So, Lucifer
falling was not a surprise.
00:54:54.89\00:54:57.96
Gabriel taking his
place was not a surprise.
00:54:57.99\00:55:01.10
God always has
everything in order
00:55:01.13\00:55:03.43
like I hope organized people do
00:55:03.47\00:55:05.83
just in case an
emergency arises.
00:55:05.87\00:55:08.20
Shelley: Could I add
something to that because
00:55:08.24\00:55:10.87
you know, that is such
an interesting question...
00:55:10.91\00:55:13.51
I've never heard that
00:55:13.54\00:55:14.88
and the thought that
came to my mind was this...
00:55:14.91\00:55:18.21
even if Lucifer had
not been a covering cherub,
00:55:18.25\00:55:21.82
I think when someone's
got evil in their heart
00:55:21.85\00:55:24.95
and pride rises up,
00:55:24.99\00:55:26.32
I think he would still
have sinned... maybe even faster
00:55:26.35\00:55:30.96
because he was just a
jealous-natured person
00:55:30.99\00:55:33.96
and he still could have
rebelled against the Lord.
00:55:34.00\00:55:37.53
He still could have taken a
third of the angels with him.
00:55:37.57\00:55:40.94
So, I don't think
that it just had to do
00:55:40.97\00:55:44.01
with the fact that he
was a covering cherub.
00:55:44.04\00:55:46.98
I think all the
angels were created perfect
00:55:47.01\00:55:50.55
and I just think he
was one of those bad dudes.
00:55:50.58\00:55:54.02
The reason why I asked Jill to
read Hebrews 4... you have it?
00:55:54.05\00:55:58.92
Jill: Hebrews 4:6...
00:55:58.95\00:56:00.29
Shelley: Oh, I
thought you were through.
00:56:00.32\00:56:01.66
Jill: Is that what you
want me to read? Hebrews 4:6?
00:56:01.69\00:56:03.29
Lomacang: No, Hebrews 4:12.
00:56:03.32\00:56:04.66
Jill: 4:12...
okay... oh yeah, okay.
00:56:04.69\00:56:06.09
Lomacang: Now watch this,
00:56:06.16\00:56:07.50
if the Word of God could
do that could God do that?
00:56:07.53\00:56:09.16
Jill: See, "For the word
of God is living and powerful,
00:56:09.23\00:56:12.13
and sharper than
any two-edged sword,
00:56:12.17\00:56:14.80
piercing even to the
division of soul and spirit,
00:56:14.84\00:56:17.77
joints and marrow,
00:56:17.81\00:56:19.27
and is a discerner of
the thoughts and intents
00:56:19.31\00:56:21.74
of the heart.
00:56:21.78\00:56:23.41
Lomacang: Okay, if the
Word of God can do that,
00:56:23.45\00:56:25.25
can God discern the thoughts
and intents of one's heart?
00:56:25.28\00:56:29.92
He can.
00:56:29.95\00:56:31.39
Ryan: Amen, praise the Lord.
00:56:31.42\00:56:32.75
Lomacang: Lucifer
didn't catch Him by surprise.
00:56:32.79\00:56:34.12
Even Jesus once said,
00:56:34.16\00:56:35.49
"Why are you thinking that way?"
00:56:35.52\00:56:36.89
Ryan: Amen, praise the Lord.
00:56:36.93\00:56:38.89
Lomacang: Lucifer
didn't catch God by surprise,
00:56:38.93\00:56:40.56
that's why I'm
glad I'm on God's side.
00:56:40.60\00:56:42.10
We're on God's side.
00:56:42.13\00:56:43.47
Ryan: Amen, you know what?
00:56:43.50\00:56:45.43
We're coming down to the last
like, minute and a half here
00:56:45.47\00:56:47.80
and I just want to remind you...
00:56:47.84\00:56:49.17
we're not finished
today with Bible Q and A
00:56:49.20\00:56:51.51
because actually,
about an hour from now...
00:56:51.54\00:56:53.98
it's 7 p. m. Eastern Time,
00:56:54.01\00:56:56.08
we're going to come
back with another hour
00:56:56.11\00:56:58.15
of Bible Q and A right
here during this 3ABN Session,
00:56:58.18\00:57:01.25
so, you're going
to want to come back
00:57:01.28\00:57:02.85
and any questions that you might
have put in the Chat Section
00:57:02.88\00:57:05.35
that we didn't
get to in this hour,
00:57:05.39\00:57:07.32
we're going to roll that
thing over to the next hour
00:57:07.36\00:57:09.52
when we come back
00:57:09.56\00:57:10.89
and we're going to answer
those Bible questions then
00:57:10.93\00:57:12.89
so, continue to put
in your Bible Questions
00:57:12.93\00:57:15.23
in that Chat Section
00:57:15.26\00:57:16.60
because again, 7
p. m. Eastern Time...
00:57:16.63\00:57:19.43
we're going to come
back to another 3ABN
00:57:19.47\00:57:22.24
Bible Q and A Session.
00:57:22.27\00:57:24.24
So, guys, thank
you... appreciate you so much
00:57:24.27\00:57:28.14
and, you know, I also
just want to remind our Viewers
00:57:28.18\00:57:30.75
that are
watching during this time,
00:57:30.78\00:57:32.25
that again, you can
watch 3ABN on Mondays
00:57:32.28\00:57:34.62
and you can see a
weekly... a weekly dose of this
00:57:34.65\00:57:37.25
of 3ABN Bible Q and A
in which we're just...
00:57:37.29\00:57:40.12
it's rapid fire...
00:57:40.16\00:57:41.49
rapid fire... we're answering
many, many, many questions.
00:57:41.52\00:57:43.69
Jill: You can
catch it on YouTube
00:57:43.73\00:57:46.39
which means, you can
watch it on demand any time.
00:57:46.43\00:57:48.90
Ryan: Amen, so absolutely,
so Ms. Jill's recognized
00:57:48.93\00:57:50.47
we have our YouTube Channel,
00:57:50.50\00:57:52.43
you can go and watch
that any time you want
00:57:52.47\00:57:54.44
because we upload our
3ABN Sabbath School Panel...
00:57:54.47\00:57:57.11
got to love
Sabbath School, right?
00:57:57.14\00:57:58.54
And we also have our
Bible Q and A Programs...
00:57:58.57\00:58:00.58
Today Programs on
our YouTube Channel
00:58:00.64\00:58:02.41
and also on demand
at our new 3ABN Plus...
00:58:02.44\00:58:05.28
you can go to 3abnplus. TV
00:58:05.31\00:58:08.05
and you can watch
all the 3ABN programming
00:58:08.08\00:58:10.55
to fill your heart
and your little soul.
00:58:10.59\00:58:12.22
So, we thank you so much.
00:58:12.25\00:58:13.79
Continue to send those
questions via the Chat Section
00:58:13.82\00:58:16.59
and we'll see you
in a little while.
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