- When it comes to the early church in the New Testament, 00:00:01.36\00:00:02.90 who exactly got to decide which books would become part 00:00:02.90\00:00:05.90 of the Bible and which ones were gonna be left out? 00:00:05.90\00:00:08.50 Was it a church council that decided, 00:00:08.50\00:00:10.54 the way some people say? 00:00:10.54\00:00:12.24 Or was it created some other way? 00:00:12.24\00:00:14.48 That's today on "Authentic." 00:00:14.48\00:00:17.08 [gentle guitar music] 00:00:17.08\00:00:20.32 [gentle guitar music continues] 00:00:29.19\00:00:33.26 When the Christian church first got started, 00:00:38.07\00:00:40.24 they already had a Bible, 00:00:40.24\00:00:42.30 actually, the first 39 books 00:00:42.30\00:00:44.34 that we now call the Old Testament. 00:00:44.34\00:00:46.91 By the 1st century AD, the inspiration 00:00:48.11\00:00:50.28 and authority of those books was beyond question, 00:00:50.28\00:00:53.48 but, of course, the church also assembled another 27 books 00:00:53.48\00:00:57.35 that came to be known as the New Testament. 00:00:57.35\00:00:59.89 And that's really what we're gonna look at today. 00:00:59.89\00:01:02.22 And I've gotta warn you, 00:01:02.22\00:01:03.49 this is such a big story that I don't believe 00:01:03.49\00:01:05.53 for a moment we're gonna cover this in just half an hour. 00:01:05.53\00:01:09.40 As we've already discussed on another program, 00:01:09.40\00:01:12.33 the Bible didn't just fall from the sky completely written. 00:01:12.33\00:01:16.37 Instead, the community of faith started to notice 00:01:16.37\00:01:19.41 that certain writings had God's fingerprints on them, 00:01:19.41\00:01:22.44 and they had lasting value for all generations. 00:01:22.44\00:01:26.31 Sometime after the Babylonian exile, 00:01:26.31\00:01:28.48 the Jewish canon was completed, 00:01:28.48\00:01:31.15 and then after the death and resurrection of Christ, 00:01:31.15\00:01:33.52 the Christian community started to recognize some 00:01:33.52\00:01:35.92 of those same inspired features 00:01:35.92\00:01:38.33 in some of the works being written 00:01:38.33\00:01:40.16 by members of the early church. 00:01:40.16\00:01:42.10 Now if you listen to more skeptical academics, 00:01:43.43\00:01:46.43 some of them are gonna tell you that the canon 00:01:46.43\00:01:49.07 of scripture was something invented later, 00:01:49.07\00:01:51.51 something that was imposed on the church 00:01:51.51\00:01:54.01 hundreds of years after the fact. 00:01:54.01\00:01:56.58 In fact, some modern scholars will tell you 00:01:56.58\00:01:59.78 there's a sharp distinction between books of scripture 00:01:59.78\00:02:03.22 and the notion of a biblical canon. 00:02:03.22\00:02:05.89 They say that scriptural writings 00:02:05.89\00:02:07.86 were recognized very, very early on, 00:02:07.86\00:02:10.43 but a definitive list of inspired books wasn't created 00:02:10.43\00:02:13.76 for almost another 300 years. 00:02:13.76\00:02:16.53 The key idea behind that theory suggests 00:02:16.53\00:02:19.07 that the canon was actually invented by the church 00:02:19.07\00:02:22.07 and then imposed on books whose authors, they say, 00:02:22.07\00:02:25.54 had no idea they were writing scripture. 00:02:25.54\00:02:28.91 By contrast, the more traditional view 00:02:28.91\00:02:31.55 and my view, to be honest, 00:02:31.55\00:02:33.92 is that the church very quickly recognized 00:02:33.92\00:02:36.52 that some of the things being written 00:02:36.52\00:02:37.99 had the imprint of God. 00:02:37.99\00:02:39.65 And the fact that we developed a canonical list 00:02:39.65\00:02:42.22 in later years doesn't mean the scriptural status 00:02:42.22\00:02:46.36 was something new. 00:02:46.36\00:02:47.86 It was simply an organized recognition 00:02:47.86\00:02:50.43 that the apostles had indeed been writing by inspiration. 00:02:50.43\00:02:54.27 If you really think about it, 00:02:55.20\00:02:56.81 the early church was really rooted 00:02:56.81\00:02:58.71 in a person instead of a book 00:02:58.71\00:03:01.11 because many of the believers 00:03:01.11\00:03:02.91 in the 1st century had actually met Jesus 00:03:02.91\00:03:05.45 or heard Him speak. 00:03:05.45\00:03:06.82 At least that would've been the case 00:03:06.82\00:03:08.65 in the city of Jerusalem. 00:03:08.65\00:03:10.72 If they didn't get the chance to actually meet Jesus, 00:03:10.72\00:03:13.72 a lot of them would've met one of the apostles, 00:03:13.72\00:03:16.19 who made it their business to spread the story 00:03:16.19\00:03:18.13 of Christ across the Roman Empire. 00:03:18.13\00:03:20.73 But of course, as time moved on, 00:03:21.56\00:03:23.23 and one generation died and another took its place, 00:03:23.23\00:03:25.80 it became more and more important 00:03:25.80\00:03:27.84 to have a written record of why the church was born. 00:03:27.84\00:03:31.11 So in about the 40s AD, 00:03:31.11\00:03:34.41 we get some of the very first books of the New Testament, 00:03:34.41\00:03:37.38 and by the close of the 1st century, 00:03:37.38\00:03:39.51 the church was in possession of all 27 of the works 00:03:39.51\00:03:42.82 that you now find in the New Testament. 00:03:42.82\00:03:45.82 And in spite of the insistence by some people 00:03:45.82\00:03:48.56 that the church essentially invented the New Testament 00:03:48.56\00:03:51.33 in the 4th century, 300 years after Christ, 00:03:51.33\00:03:55.83 the truth is that 1st and 2nd-century Christians 00:03:55.83\00:03:59.83 actually started teaching from those same inspired writings. 00:03:59.83\00:04:03.91 Back in the late 19th and early 20th century, 00:04:03.91\00:04:06.27 the German theologian Theodor Zahn decided to sit down 00:04:06.27\00:04:09.88 and count up all the quotations 00:04:09.88\00:04:11.35 from the New Testament you find 00:04:11.35\00:04:12.81 in the writings of the early church fathers, 00:04:12.81\00:04:15.58 and he found so many that he came to the conclusion 00:04:15.58\00:04:19.45 that the early church already had a New Testament canon 00:04:19.45\00:04:23.83 by the end of the 1st century. 00:04:23.83\00:04:25.66 The recognition of which books were inspired 00:04:26.80\00:04:29.10 and which ones weren't kind of happened by broad consensus, 00:04:29.10\00:04:33.57 and it really wasn't the decision 00:04:33.57\00:04:35.04 of a handful of powerful individuals. 00:04:35.04\00:04:38.07 Back in 1987, the famous scholar Bruce Metzger said, 00:04:38.07\00:04:41.74 "The formation of the canon 00:04:41.74\00:04:43.41 was among the first instinctive acts 00:04:43.41\00:04:45.31 of the Christian society, 00:04:45.31\00:04:47.02 resting upon the general confession of the Churches 00:04:47.02\00:04:50.02 and not upon independent opinions of its members. 00:04:50.02\00:04:53.59 The canon was not the result of a series of contests. 00:04:53.59\00:04:57.23 Rather, canonical books were separated from others 00:04:57.23\00:05:00.30 by the intuitive insight of the Church." 00:05:00.30\00:05:03.93 Now, very early on, there were some interesting developments 00:05:03.93\00:05:07.70 that probably motivated the church 00:05:07.70\00:05:09.40 to publish a definitive list of inspired books, 00:05:09.40\00:05:13.41 not because they were trying 00:05:13.41\00:05:14.68 to figure out which books were inspired, 00:05:14.68\00:05:16.41 but because they were trying to counter the rise 00:05:16.41\00:05:19.11 of false teachers in unbiblical heresy. 00:05:19.11\00:05:22.52 A scholar by the name of Adolf von Harnack believed 00:05:22.52\00:05:25.59 that it was an early heretic by the name of Marcion, 00:05:25.59\00:05:28.62 who in the middle of the 2nd century forced the church 00:05:28.62\00:05:32.39 to explicitly define which writing 00:05:32.39\00:05:34.83 should be considered authoritative. 00:05:34.83\00:05:37.50 The reason he said that is because the Marcionites, 00:05:37.50\00:05:40.44 as they were called, had developed their own list 00:05:40.44\00:05:43.71 of canonical New Testament books, and it only had 11 books. 00:05:43.71\00:05:48.34 They had a shortened version of the Gospel of Luke, 00:05:48.34\00:05:50.91 10 of Paul's letters, and that's it. 00:05:50.91\00:05:54.08 Marcion even rejected the entire Old Testament, 00:05:54.08\00:05:57.09 which is something the apostles clearly never did. 00:05:57.09\00:06:00.06 I mean, just look at all the Old Testament references 00:06:00.06\00:06:02.76 you find in the writings of the apostles. 00:06:02.76\00:06:05.86 And by using just a few selected writings, 00:06:05.86\00:06:08.86 Marcion the heretic 00:06:08.86\00:06:10.17 was teaching what we now call gnosticism. 00:06:10.17\00:06:12.90 He believed, like other gnostics, 00:06:12.90\00:06:15.27 that the original creator botched the creation 00:06:15.27\00:06:18.24 and that Jesus had come to redeem that mistake. 00:06:18.24\00:06:21.38 Marcion actually pitted the teachings of Christ 00:06:21.38\00:06:24.25 against the teachings of the Old Testament, 00:06:24.25\00:06:26.58 which is something the apostles never, ever did. 00:06:26.58\00:06:30.12 Instead, you'll notice that John explicitly says 00:06:30.12\00:06:32.92 that Christ is the creator. 00:06:32.92\00:06:35.16 And Paul tells us that Jesus 00:06:35.16\00:06:36.99 is the one who led the Israelites 00:06:36.99\00:06:39.03 through the wilderness during the Exodus. 00:06:39.03\00:06:41.86 And Jesus Himself said this: 00:06:41.86\00:06:44.90 "Do not think that I have come 00:06:44.90\00:06:46.33 to abolish the Law or the Prophets. 00:06:46.33\00:06:48.74 I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 00:06:48.74\00:06:52.24 For truly, I say to you, 00:06:52.24\00:06:53.81 until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, 00:06:53.81\00:06:56.95 will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 00:06:56.95\00:07:00.68 Therefore, whoever relaxes one of the least 00:07:00.68\00:07:03.52 of these commandments and teaches others 00:07:03.52\00:07:05.12 to do the same will be called least 00:07:05.12\00:07:07.42 in the kingdom of heaven, 00:07:07.42\00:07:09.06 but whoever does them and teaches them will be called 00:07:09.06\00:07:12.23 great in the kingdom of heaven." 00:07:12.23\00:07:14.30 Now, additionally, Marcion the gnostic taught 00:07:14.30\00:07:17.10 that Jesus was not actually God in human flesh. 00:07:17.10\00:07:19.47 In fact, he said He wasn't human at all, 00:07:19.47\00:07:21.84 a teaching that is now called docetism. 00:07:21.84\00:07:24.97 Now, Marcion was actually different 00:07:24.97\00:07:26.78 from the other gnostics in one really important way. 00:07:26.78\00:07:29.94 While the gnostics stressed having a special, elite body 00:07:29.94\00:07:33.28 of knowledge that was revealed just to them, 00:07:33.28\00:07:36.69 Marcion at least attempted to build his teachings 00:07:36.69\00:07:38.69 on the writings of some of the New Testament. 00:07:38.69\00:07:42.49 But of course, to make his ideas fit, 00:07:42.49\00:07:44.16 he had to pick and choose what he wanted to accept. 00:07:44.16\00:07:47.46 Now, there was another 2nd-century heresy 00:07:48.56\00:07:50.73 known as Montanism, 00:07:50.73\00:07:52.13 and the Montanists insisted that they were inspired 00:07:52.13\00:07:55.40 by God to reveal brand-new prophecies. 00:07:55.40\00:07:58.94 So in response, at least the theory says, 00:07:58.94\00:08:01.84 the church had to get serious 00:08:01.84\00:08:03.35 about publishing a real list of authoritative books, 00:08:03.35\00:08:06.55 one that exposed Marcion's truncated New Testament 00:08:06.55\00:08:10.72 and put a stop to this idea 00:08:10.72\00:08:12.42 that the Montanists were producing new scriptures. 00:08:12.42\00:08:15.62 And they say that's how we got our New Testament canon. 00:08:15.62\00:08:19.53 Now, personally, I'm kind of skeptical of the theory 00:08:19.53\00:08:22.76 because I'm with Mr. Metzger. 00:08:22.76\00:08:24.60 I think the body of the New Testament was obvious 00:08:24.60\00:08:27.74 before the likes of Marcion or the Montanists, 00:08:27.74\00:08:30.34 and we'll talk about that in just a minute, 00:08:30.34\00:08:32.57 but I'll give the theory a itty-bitty tiny bit of credit. 00:08:32.57\00:08:36.54 There is something about false teaching 00:08:36.54\00:08:38.71 that does help the church 00:08:38.71\00:08:39.98 become a whole lot more decided about the truth. 00:08:39.98\00:08:43.69 After all, facing opposition has a way 00:08:43.69\00:08:45.55 of requiring you to know for sure who you are 00:08:45.55\00:08:49.72 and what you believe. 00:08:49.72\00:08:51.23 We actually saw that happen 00:08:52.26\00:08:53.63 during the Protestant Reformation. 00:08:53.63\00:08:55.10 By facing the corruption of the mainstream church, 00:08:55.10\00:08:57.97 believers were forced to examine the scriptures 00:08:57.97\00:09:00.44 for themselves and know for sure what the Bible said 00:09:00.44\00:09:03.77 and what it didn't say. 00:09:03.77\00:09:05.57 And as a result, the teachings 00:09:05.57\00:09:06.88 of scripture became the focal point 00:09:06.88\00:09:09.34 for people like Tyndale, Luther, or Calvin. 00:09:09.34\00:09:12.58 And right now, my focal point is the clock 00:09:12.58\00:09:15.52 on the studio wall, which says it's time for a break, 00:09:15.52\00:09:18.42 so I'll be right back after this. 00:09:18.42\00:09:20.89 - [Announcer] Here at the Voice of Prophecy, 00:09:24.33\00:09:25.73 we're committed to creating top-quality programming 00:09:25.73\00:09:28.30 for the whole family, 00:09:28.30\00:09:29.70 like our audio adventure series "Discovery Mountain." 00:09:29.70\00:09:32.83 "Discovery Mountain" is a Bible-based program 00:09:32.83\00:09:35.40 for kids of all ages and backgrounds. 00:09:35.40\00:09:37.74 Your family will enjoy the faith-building stories 00:09:37.74\00:09:40.51 from this small mountain summer camp and town. 00:09:40.51\00:09:43.38 With 24 seasonal episodes every year 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at Dan Brown's ridiculous claims 00:10:27.89\00:10:30.13 that the Council of Nicaea created the New Testament canon 00:10:30.13\00:10:33.36 in the year 325 AD, and we demolished that idea. 00:10:33.36\00:10:37.73 We know for a fact that the church 00:10:37.73\00:10:39.57 had a canonical New Testament long before Nicaea, 00:10:39.57\00:10:43.64 as evidenced in the writings of various church fathers 00:10:43.64\00:10:46.31 and in one especially important document 00:10:46.31\00:10:48.84 called the Muratorian Fragment. 00:10:48.84\00:10:51.35 You might remember the Muratorian Fragment was a copy 00:10:51.35\00:10:54.58 of a 2nd-century document, 00:10:54.58\00:10:56.42 and it listed the books 00:10:56.42\00:10:57.82 of the New Testament almost 200 years 00:10:57.82\00:11:00.39 before the Council of Nicaea. 00:11:00.39\00:11:02.62 The biggest problem with giving credit 00:11:03.73\00:11:05.89 to a church council is the fact that a body 00:11:05.89\00:11:08.90 of human scholars would then have been sitting 00:11:08.90\00:11:10.90 in judgment over the Bible. 00:11:10.90\00:11:13.54 The scriptures cannot be the ultimate authority 00:11:13.54\00:11:16.57 in a Christian's life if they sat around 00:11:16.57\00:11:18.81 for 300 years lacking the endorsement of a church council 00:11:18.81\00:11:22.68 before they were considered authoritative. 00:11:22.68\00:11:25.81 And if that's what happened, 00:11:25.81\00:11:27.78 then the authority of a church council 00:11:27.78\00:11:29.72 would actually be superior 00:11:29.72\00:11:31.49 to the authority of the scriptures. 00:11:31.49\00:11:34.29 And this of course is the position that a number 00:11:34.29\00:11:36.99 of Christian communities have actually adopted, 00:11:36.99\00:11:39.73 and it actually forms the key distinction 00:11:39.73\00:11:42.00 between the Protestant 00:11:42.00\00:11:43.37 and the Catholic position on scripture. 00:11:43.37\00:11:46.77 Now, the other view, 00:11:46.77\00:11:48.34 and the one that makes the most sense, in my humble opinion, 00:11:48.34\00:11:50.97 is that the inspired writers actually knew 00:11:50.97\00:11:53.31 they were writing scripture, 00:11:53.31\00:11:55.04 and the original church knew it too. 00:11:55.04\00:11:57.71 This is fairly easy to demonstrate 00:11:57.71\00:11:59.28 from the words of the apostles themselves, 00:11:59.28\00:12:01.08 and I'm gonna do that in just a minute. 00:12:01.08\00:12:03.22 But before I do, let me address a key objection 00:12:03.22\00:12:07.06 that some people have to the idea 00:12:07.06\00:12:08.66 that the New Testament actually authenticates itself. 00:12:08.66\00:12:12.53 They'll say, "Oh, that's circular reasoning." 00:12:12.53\00:12:14.93 How do you know the books 00:12:14.93\00:12:16.20 of the New Testament are the Word of God? 00:12:16.20\00:12:17.57 Well, the books of the New Testament say they are. 00:12:17.57\00:12:20.20 It sounds like circular reasoning, 00:12:21.24\00:12:22.84 but if God is really the author of this book, 00:12:22.84\00:12:26.34 to what other authority could He possibly appeal? 00:12:26.34\00:12:29.91 Does God actually answer to church councils? 00:12:29.91\00:12:32.91 Does He need an outside source to validate what He says? 00:12:32.91\00:12:36.85 That doesn't make sense. 00:12:36.85\00:12:38.92 Here, let me show you a really interesting passage 00:12:40.16\00:12:42.12 in the Book of Hebrews, 00:12:42.12\00:12:43.66 where the author is explaining God's promise to Abraham, 00:12:43.66\00:12:47.00 and pay attention to what it actually says. 00:12:47.00\00:12:49.80 Really pay attention. 00:12:49.80\00:12:51.07 "For when God made a promise to Abraham, 00:12:52.30\00:12:54.64 since He had no one greater by whom to swear, 00:12:54.64\00:12:57.57 He swore by Himself, saying, 00:12:57.57\00:12:59.24 'Surely I will bless you and multiply you.'" 00:12:59.24\00:13:03.01 You see, when you and I go to court, 00:13:03.01\00:13:05.15 we often place our hands on a Bible 00:13:05.15\00:13:06.98 and swear by something greater than us 00:13:06.98\00:13:08.75 that we're gonna tell the truth. 00:13:08.75\00:13:11.15 What we're really doing is appealing 00:13:11.15\00:13:12.62 to an outside authority, 00:13:12.62\00:13:14.19 and it makes perfect sense in a world full 00:13:14.19\00:13:16.42 of broken, fallible human beings. 00:13:16.42\00:13:19.69 But when it comes to God, where exactly is He supposed 00:13:19.69\00:13:22.13 to find outside validation? 00:13:22.13\00:13:24.47 It doesn't exist 00:13:24.47\00:13:25.83 because He's at the very pinnacle of all existence. 00:13:25.83\00:13:28.90 In fact, He defines the very nature of existence 00:13:28.90\00:13:32.64 because according to the scripture, He's the source of 00:13:32.64\00:13:36.85 that. So would it be circular reasoning to say that the books 00:13:36.85\00:13:39.68 of the New Testament validate themselves? 00:13:39.68\00:13:42.22 Well, I can see how people might think that, 00:13:42.22\00:13:44.95 but it's perfectly valid because the books were inspired 00:13:44.95\00:13:48.49 by the highest authority there is. 00:13:48.49\00:13:51.13 And if God says they're scripture, 00:13:51.13\00:13:53.80 there's nowhere else you can go for validation. 00:13:53.80\00:13:56.10 This was one of the biggest talking points 00:13:57.37\00:13:59.13 of the Reformation. 00:13:59.13\00:14:00.54 People were arguing for a return 00:14:00.54\00:14:02.50 to something they called sola scriptura, 00:14:02.50\00:14:05.37 the Bible, and the Bible alone, as the rule of faith. 00:14:05.37\00:14:09.74 And I say it was a return to that principle 00:14:09.74\00:14:11.91 because if you go back 00:14:11.91\00:14:13.21 and read the writings of the earliest church, 00:14:13.21\00:14:14.65 you'll see they also held that position. 00:14:14.65\00:14:18.29 It was only as we pass through the marriage 00:14:18.29\00:14:20.32 of church and state and then the abysmal medieval period 00:14:20.32\00:14:24.23 that we started to adopt other kinds of thinking. 00:14:24.23\00:14:27.23 The official church responded 00:14:27.23\00:14:28.70 to the reformers by doubling down on the idea 00:14:28.70\00:14:31.50 that church councils are the ultimate authority. 00:14:31.50\00:14:34.67 At the Council of Trent in the middle of the 16th century, 00:14:34.67\00:14:37.64 we suddenly canonized a number of books 00:14:37.64\00:14:39.97 that historically speaking had never been 00:14:39.97\00:14:42.88 in the Bible before, 00:14:42.88\00:14:44.45 and those were the books called the Apocrypha. 00:14:44.45\00:14:47.48 Prior to the Council of Trent, 00:14:48.45\00:14:50.05 Jerome included those apocryphal books 00:14:50.05\00:14:52.52 in his Latin Vulgate translation, 00:14:52.52\00:14:55.12 but he included a careful note to let the reader know 00:14:55.12\00:14:57.49 that these were not considered scripture. 00:14:57.49\00:14:59.89 Instead, they were just useful background material 00:14:59.89\00:15:02.60 that helps us understand things like culture or context. 00:15:02.60\00:15:06.27 And Jerome was right. 00:15:06.27\00:15:07.57 They are helpful reading. 00:15:07.57\00:15:09.50 Then in AD 600, Pope Gregory the Great explicitly stated 00:15:09.50\00:15:13.41 as he was commenting on the books of the Maccabees 00:15:13.41\00:15:16.41 that they were not scripture. 00:15:16.41\00:15:18.31 Here's what he said: 00:15:18.31\00:15:19.81 "We shall not act rationally if we accept a testimony 00:15:19.81\00:15:22.58 of books which, although not canonical, 00:15:22.58\00:15:25.65 have been published for the edification of the Church." 00:15:25.65\00:15:28.39 So if the canon of scripture was really the product 00:15:28.39\00:15:31.73 of a decision made by a church council, 00:15:31.73\00:15:33.83 that creates a bit of a problem. 00:15:33.83\00:15:36.20 In the year 600, we have the Bishop of Rome saying 00:15:36.20\00:15:39.83 that 1 and 2 Maccabees aren't scripture, 00:15:39.83\00:15:42.74 but then in 1546, the Council of Trent reverses that. 00:15:42.74\00:15:47.21 So how do we understand that? 00:15:47.21\00:15:49.41 Were the books canonical all along, 00:15:49.41\00:15:51.31 but the church was mistaken in the beginning? 00:15:51.31\00:15:53.82 Or did the books suddenly become inspired in 1546, 00:15:53.82\00:15:57.22 almost 2,000 years after they were written? 00:15:57.22\00:16:00.76 You see the problem here, 00:16:00.76\00:16:02.39 and that might be the reason it was a minority vote 00:16:02.39\00:16:05.39 at the Council of Trent that actually decided 00:16:05.39\00:16:07.60 to include the Apocrypha. 00:16:07.60\00:16:09.76 The people who gathered there 00:16:09.76\00:16:11.77 knew those books had never been scripture 00:16:11.77\00:16:14.54 over the last 1,500 years. 00:16:14.54\00:16:15.97 In fact, as late as 1498, 00:16:15.97\00:16:18.44 the marginal notes in Jerome's Latin Vulgate 00:16:18.44\00:16:20.84 still said those books were not scripture. 00:16:20.84\00:16:24.51 Even the notorious Thomas Cajetan, 00:16:24.51\00:16:26.58 one of the key opponents of Martin Luther, wrote this. 00:16:26.58\00:16:29.92 He said, "Here we close our commentaries 00:16:29.92\00:16:32.65 on the historical books of the Old Testament. 00:16:32.65\00:16:35.32 For the rest, that is, Judith, Tobit, 00:16:35.32\00:16:37.33 and the books of the Maccabees, 00:16:37.33\00:16:39.29 are counted by St. Jerome out of the canonical books 00:16:39.29\00:16:42.76 and are placed amongst the Apocrypha, 00:16:42.76\00:16:44.80 along with Wisdom and Ecclesiasticus." 00:16:44.80\00:16:48.40 In other words, back in those days, 00:16:48.40\00:16:50.61 everybody knew those apocryphal books were not inspired. 00:16:50.61\00:16:55.48 A few years later, a minority vote 00:16:56.75\00:16:58.68 in a church council supposedly changes that. 00:16:58.68\00:17:01.42 So how can we trust the idea 00:17:01.42\00:17:03.32 that a self-appointed church council is the final authority? 00:17:03.32\00:17:07.36 The entire idea is very problematic 00:17:07.36\00:17:10.03 because it puts the Bible under our authority, 00:17:10.03\00:17:13.23 and it wasn't actually the way the church thought 00:17:13.23\00:17:15.03 about the Bible for the first 1,200 years. 00:17:15.03\00:17:18.20 What we really need to do 00:17:18.20\00:17:19.77 is examine the documents themselves 00:17:19.77\00:17:21.77 to see if there's evidence 00:17:21.77\00:17:23.47 that the earliest church believed the books were 00:17:23.47\00:17:26.88 inspired, and that's what we're gonna do 00:17:26.88\00:17:28.14 as soon as I come back from this break. 00:17:28.14\00:17:30.28 - [Announcer] Dragons, beasts, cryptic statues, 00:17:34.58\00:17:38.89 Bible prophecy can be incredibly vivid and confusing. 00:17:38.89\00:17:43.46 If you've ever read Daniel or Revelation 00:17:43.46\00:17:45.66 and come away scratching your head, you're not alone. 00:17:45.66\00:17:48.70 Our free Focus on Prophecy guides are designed 00:17:48.70\00:17:51.60 to help you unlock the mysteries of the Bible 00:17:51.60\00:17:53.90 and deepen your understanding of God's plan 00:17:53.90\00:17:56.30 for you and our world. 00:17:56.30\00:17:57.94 Study online or request them by mail 00:17:57.94\00:18:00.41 and start bringing prophecy into focus today. 00:18:00.41\00:18:03.98 - When you take a look at Peter's second letter, 00:18:03.98\00:18:06.45 you find an indication that he believed the process 00:18:06.45\00:18:08.92 of writing inspired scripture was already going on 00:18:08.92\00:18:11.89 in his day back in the 1st century. 00:18:11.89\00:18:14.46 The Old Testament canon 00:18:15.32\00:18:16.76 was finished roughly 400 years before Christ, 00:18:16.76\00:18:19.79 but now that Jesus had come, 00:18:19.79\00:18:21.56 the Spirit of God was once again illuminating the minds 00:18:21.56\00:18:24.53 of Christian prophets 00:18:24.53\00:18:26.47 and inspiring them to write the counsels 00:18:26.47\00:18:28.10 of God for the church. 00:18:28.10\00:18:29.77 So here's what it says beginning in 2 Peter 1:9: 00:18:29.77\00:18:33.78 "And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, 00:18:33.78\00:18:36.81 to which you will do well to pay attention 00:18:36.81\00:18:38.85 as to a lamp shining in a dark place, 00:18:38.85\00:18:41.35 until the day dawns and the morning star rises 00:18:41.35\00:18:44.05 in your hearts, knowing this first of all, 00:18:44.05\00:18:46.92 that no prophecy of Scripture comes 00:18:46.92\00:18:48.82 from someone's own interpretation. 00:18:48.82\00:18:51.53 For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, 00:18:51.53\00:18:54.93 but men spoke from God as they were carried along 00:18:54.93\00:18:57.70 by the Holy Spirit." 00:18:57.70\00:18:59.83 Now, naturally, Peter's referring 00:18:59.83\00:19:01.54 to the belief that Jesus is the fulfillment 00:19:01.54\00:19:04.34 of Old Testament messianic prophecies, 00:19:04.34\00:19:06.64 and he's underlining the fact 00:19:06.64\00:19:08.28 that the scriptures are reliable. 00:19:08.28\00:19:10.85 But he makes this statement after talking 00:19:10.85\00:19:13.01 about his own experience on the mount, 00:19:13.01\00:19:15.42 where he saw Jesus transfigured in all His glory. 00:19:15.42\00:19:18.85 He's clearly talking about present revelation, 00:19:18.85\00:19:22.42 1st-century revelation, 00:19:22.42\00:19:24.43 and the fact that the Spirit of God was still at work. 00:19:24.43\00:19:27.46 So yeah, he's talking about the Old Testament, 00:19:27.46\00:19:30.03 but he's also talking about the continuation 00:19:30.03\00:19:32.43 of that work with the apostles. 00:19:32.43\00:19:35.07 The prophetic gift was present 00:19:36.00\00:19:37.67 in the earliest New Testament church, 00:19:37.67\00:19:39.81 the same way it had been there for Israel 00:19:39.81\00:19:41.64 during the Old Testament. 00:19:41.64\00:19:43.21 And in those very first years 00:19:43.21\00:19:45.38 after Christ returned to heaven, 00:19:45.38\00:19:47.32 the church understood 00:19:47.32\00:19:48.45 that they were rounding out the process 00:19:48.45\00:19:50.05 of producing the canon of scripture. 00:19:50.05\00:19:52.82 And sure enough, as you look through the pages 00:19:52.82\00:19:55.26 of the New Testament, 00:19:55.26\00:19:56.73 you find this belief being expressed more than once, 00:19:56.73\00:19:59.26 and it's stated very clearly 00:19:59.26\00:20:01.70 in the opening words of the Book of Revelation. 00:20:01.70\00:20:03.93 I mean, listen to this, 00:20:03.93\00:20:05.30 and remember he's talking about 00:20:05.30\00:20:07.37 what he's writing at this very moment. 00:20:07.37\00:20:10.17 He calls it, "The revelation of Jesus Christ, 00:20:10.17\00:20:13.84 which God gave Him to show His servants the things 00:20:13.84\00:20:16.41 that must soon take place. 00:20:16.41\00:20:18.15 He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, 00:20:18.15\00:20:21.45 who bore witness to the Word of God 00:20:21.45\00:20:23.25 and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, 00:20:23.25\00:20:25.75 even to all that he saw." 00:20:25.75\00:20:28.52 So ask yourself, did a church council decide 00:20:28.52\00:20:31.43 that Revelation was inspired 250 years later? 00:20:31.43\00:20:34.83 Or did the Apostle John believe that God had inspired him 00:20:34.83\00:20:38.27 to write this book for the churches? 00:20:38.27\00:20:40.50 Now, I want you to notice what comes next in verse three. 00:20:42.00\00:20:43.81 Listen: "Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words 00:20:43.81\00:20:47.68 of this prophecy, 00:20:47.68\00:20:49.14 and blessed are those who hear 00:20:49.14\00:20:51.31 and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near." 00:20:51.31\00:20:54.78 So in other words, John was telling us 00:20:54.78\00:20:56.58 that this is an inspired book that carried God's authority 00:20:56.58\00:20:59.82 as he was writing it, 00:20:59.82\00:21:01.46 and it was meant to guide the churches. 00:21:01.46\00:21:03.46 And just in case there was any doubt, 00:21:03.46\00:21:05.56 he closes the book with these words found in chapter 22: 00:21:05.56\00:21:09.46 "And He said to me, 00:21:09.46\00:21:10.77 'Do not seal up the words of the prophecy 00:21:10.77\00:21:12.57 of this book, for the time is near.'" 00:21:12.57\00:21:16.20 It would seem that the real test 00:21:16.20\00:21:18.11 for whether or not a book should be in the New Testament 00:21:18.11\00:21:20.74 or the Old Testament, for that matter, 00:21:20.74\00:21:22.71 rests on whether or not it was prophetic. 00:21:22.71\00:21:25.48 Was the spirit of God inspiring a prophet 00:21:25.48\00:21:28.05 or apostle to write it? 00:21:28.05\00:21:30.22 Notice what Paul says about his own work 00:21:30.22\00:21:32.45 in 1 Corinthians 14, where he writes, 00:21:32.45\00:21:35.62 "If anyone thinks that he is a prophet or spiritual, 00:21:35.62\00:21:38.93 he should acknowledge that the things I am writing 00:21:38.93\00:21:41.16 to you are a command of the Lord. 00:21:41.16\00:21:43.57 If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized." 00:21:43.57\00:21:48.04 Now, I don't want you to miss what he said 00:21:48.04\00:21:50.11 because this is really, really important. 00:21:50.11\00:21:52.27 Paul said that what he was writing 00:21:52.27\00:21:53.88 to the church in Corinth was a command of the Lord, 00:21:53.88\00:21:57.48 which means that God inspired him to write it, 00:21:57.48\00:22:00.05 and it was clearly considered to be authoritative. 00:22:00.05\00:22:03.42 Moreover, he points out that if anybody 00:22:03.42\00:22:05.62 in that church happened to have the real prophetic gift, 00:22:05.62\00:22:08.72 they would recognize Paul's authority immediately. 00:22:08.72\00:22:12.43 If they didn't recognize it, you could be certain 00:22:12.43\00:22:14.56 that this individual was not a genuine prophet, 00:22:14.56\00:22:17.57 and you were safe to ignore him. 00:22:17.57\00:22:19.47 Then later, Paul actually quotes 00:22:20.50\00:22:22.37 from other New Testament works 00:22:22.37\00:22:24.21 and explicitly calls them scripture, 00:22:24.21\00:22:26.44 like this passage from 1 Timothy 5, 00:22:26.44\00:22:29.91 where he says, "For the scripture says, 00:22:29.91\00:22:32.08 'You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,' 00:22:32.08\00:22:35.25 and, 'The laborer deserves his wages.'" 00:22:35.25\00:22:38.45 Now, if you've got a red letter edition of the Bible, 00:22:38.45\00:22:40.72 you'll notice that that last quotation, 00:22:40.72\00:22:42.72 "The laborer deserves his wages," they're in red. 00:22:42.72\00:22:46.70 That's because Paul is quoting from Luke 10, 00:22:46.70\00:22:49.63 where Jesus spoke those words, 00:22:49.63\00:22:51.37 and Paul calls them scripture. 00:22:51.37\00:22:54.14 I'll be right back after this. 00:22:54.14\00:22:56.07 - [Announcer] Life can throw a lot at us. 00:23:00.18\00:23:02.41 Sometimes we don't have all the answers, 00:23:02.41\00:23:05.81 but that's where the Bible comes in. 00:23:05.81\00:23:08.25 It's our guide to a more fulfilling life. 00:23:08.25\00:23:11.32 Here at the Voice of Prophecy, 00:23:11.32\00:23:12.89 we've created the Discover Bible guides 00:23:12.89\00:23:15.02 to be your guide to the Bible. 00:23:15.02\00:23:16.66 They're designed to be simple, easy to use, 00:23:16.66\00:23:19.13 and provide answers to many of life's toughest questions, 00:23:19.13\00:23:22.10 and they're absolutely free. 00:23:22.10\00:23:24.17 So jump online now or give us a call 00:23:24.17\00:23:26.50 and start your journey of discovery. 00:23:26.50\00:23:28.77 - Okay, we're almost out of time, 00:23:29.80\00:23:31.11 and I should probably mention 00:23:31.11\00:23:32.51 that I'm particularly indebted to Phillip Kayser 00:23:32.51\00:23:35.01 for some of the historical material we've been looking at 00:23:35.01\00:23:37.78 as well as some of the internal evidence 00:23:37.78\00:23:40.12 from the New Testament that we just examined. 00:23:40.12\00:23:42.85 What this really amounts to again is the fact 00:23:42.85\00:23:45.49 that the books of the New Testament are self-authenticating. 00:23:45.49\00:23:49.19 They don't need the approval of committees 00:23:49.19\00:23:50.99 or councils to validate their authority. 00:23:50.99\00:23:53.93 They were considered authoritative 00:23:53.93\00:23:56.03 the moment they were written. 00:23:56.03\00:23:58.57 In other words, the church did not give birth 00:23:58.57\00:24:01.40 to the New Testament. 00:24:01.40\00:24:02.94 The Holy Spirit gave birth to the church 00:24:02.94\00:24:05.54 through the New Testament. 00:24:05.54\00:24:07.24 You know, historically speaking, we have plenty of evidence 00:24:08.61\00:24:11.18 to prove that the canon 00:24:11.18\00:24:12.61 of the New Testament was very much in place 00:24:12.61\00:24:15.22 before the end of the 1st century. 00:24:15.22\00:24:17.52 God wasn't waiting for us to make up our minds 00:24:17.52\00:24:20.22 about which of the New Testament books 00:24:20.22\00:24:21.86 we were ready to accept. 00:24:21.86\00:24:23.36 I mean, try to imagine what that would look like. 00:24:23.36\00:24:26.03 It'd be like letting a toddler set his own bedtime. 00:24:26.03\00:24:29.96 The Bible was God's decision, not ours. 00:24:29.96\00:24:33.13 And yes, if you read the history books carefully, 00:24:33.13\00:24:35.47 you'll notice that once in a while some people struggled 00:24:35.47\00:24:38.47 with the fact that certain books were included 00:24:38.47\00:24:41.01 in the scriptures, people like Martin Luther, 00:24:41.01\00:24:43.95 who questioned the Book of Esther 00:24:43.95\00:24:45.58 and didn't really care for the Book of James. 00:24:45.58\00:24:48.48 But that's the opinion of one man, 00:24:48.48\00:24:50.22 and you'll notice it didn't prevail. 00:24:50.22\00:24:52.92 Luther might not have liked those books. 00:24:52.92\00:24:54.86 He might have had questions about what was in them, 00:24:54.86\00:24:58.06 but ultimately he submitted 00:24:58.06\00:24:59.63 to what the church had known from the very, very beginning. 00:24:59.63\00:25:02.06 He understood full well that we are not the final word, 00:25:02.06\00:25:06.30 and he had to submit to the authority of scripture. 00:25:06.30\00:25:10.31 And that's really what's at the core 00:25:10.31\00:25:11.97 of the issue surrounding the origin of the Bible. 00:25:11.97\00:25:14.98 If you and I are going to sit in judgment 00:25:14.98\00:25:16.98 over what we think should be God's Word, 00:25:16.98\00:25:20.32 would it really be God's Word then? 00:25:20.32\00:25:22.98 Or would we be telling God what He's allowed to say? 00:25:22.98\00:25:26.05 And that's one of the key problems we have 00:25:26.05\00:25:27.99 when we simply try to prove which 00:25:27.99\00:25:29.62 of the New Testament books belong there 00:25:29.62\00:25:32.09 by just resorting to historical evidence. 00:25:32.09\00:25:35.26 We're putting people in charge 00:25:35.26\00:25:37.40 of what's supposed to be the Word of God. 00:25:37.40\00:25:40.14 Now, you might not personally believe 00:25:40.14\00:25:42.74 in the inspiration of the Bible, 00:25:42.74\00:25:44.31 and that's a completely separate issue, 00:25:44.31\00:25:47.38 but if God is real and He really does speak to us, 00:25:47.38\00:25:52.25 then we should expect to find evidence 00:25:52.25\00:25:54.95 in the biblical writings. 00:25:54.95\00:25:56.58 So is that circular reasoning? 00:25:57.42\00:25:59.15 I mean, sure it is, 00:25:59.15\00:26:00.72 but if God is real, that's exactly what you should expect. 00:26:00.72\00:26:03.63 As Peter put it, "No prophecy of scripture comes 00:26:03.63\00:26:06.46 from someone's own interpretation. 00:26:06.46\00:26:08.96 For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of men, 00:26:08.96\00:26:13.03 but men spoke from God 00:26:13.03\00:26:14.64 as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." 00:26:14.64\00:26:18.01 That would be the full extent 00:26:18.01\00:26:19.41 of our involvement in the process, 00:26:19.41\00:26:21.91 apart from preserving the scriptures 00:26:21.91\00:26:24.58 and handing them on to the next generation. 00:26:24.58\00:26:27.65 The human contribution to this book 00:26:27.65\00:26:29.65 was made by the prophets, not really by us, 00:26:29.65\00:26:32.95 and the early church knew exactly which books 00:26:32.95\00:26:35.76 should be included before the last of the apostles died. 00:26:35.76\00:26:39.56 You know, on a personal note, 00:26:40.56\00:26:42.80 I'd say that if you have any doubts, 00:26:42.80\00:26:45.67 get a copy of the Bible. 00:26:45.67\00:26:47.54 Read it. 00:26:47.54\00:26:49.07 You're gonna notice it doesn't read like pagan mythology, 00:26:49.07\00:26:52.14 and it 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