- How much would you estimate 00:00:00.83\00:00:02.33 that you and I actually owe to future generations? 00:00:02.33\00:00:05.70 Do you think it's possible that we're morally responsible 00:00:05.70\00:00:08.90 for building the world of tomorrow, 00:00:08.90\00:00:10.41 the one our descendants are going to have to live in? 00:00:10.41\00:00:13.27 And just how capable would we be of doing that, 00:00:13.27\00:00:16.28 especially when we can't seem to fix our own problems? 00:00:16.28\00:00:20.45 [upbeat music] 00:00:20.45\00:00:23.12 [upbeat music continues] 00:00:30.09\00:00:33.60 Just the other day I was flying home 00:00:40.24\00:00:41.94 from a speaking appointment 00:00:41.94\00:00:43.44 and I pulled out this book by William MacAskill, 00:00:43.44\00:00:45.91 a contemporary Scottish philosopher. 00:00:45.91\00:00:48.88 And I've got to admit, 00:00:48.88\00:00:50.28 he really gave me some stuff to think about. 00:00:50.28\00:00:52.58 Now, the name of the book is "What We Owe the Future". 00:00:52.58\00:00:55.58 And as you can probably guess, he's making the case 00:00:55.58\00:00:58.35 that you and I have a moral obligation 00:00:58.35\00:01:00.59 to future generations. 00:01:00.59\00:01:02.32 An obligation to leave the world better than we found it. 00:01:02.32\00:01:06.49 It's not just the nice thing to do, 00:01:06.49\00:01:08.10 he says it's the right thing, a moral responsibility. 00:01:08.10\00:01:12.67 And of course, at first blush, 00:01:12.67\00:01:14.30 nobody's gonna argue with that. 00:01:14.30\00:01:15.94 Most parents already instinctively 00:01:15.94\00:01:18.31 try to give their kids better opportunities. 00:01:18.31\00:01:21.28 They make sure they get a decent education 00:01:21.28\00:01:23.31 and grow up to be confident and independent adults. 00:01:23.31\00:01:27.18 Throughout the history of parenthood, 00:01:27.18\00:01:28.92 parents have, generally speaking, 00:01:28.92\00:01:30.79 put their own desires and their own wellbeing 00:01:30.79\00:01:33.72 on the back burner, if they think 00:01:33.72\00:01:36.29 it means their children will prosper. 00:01:36.29\00:01:38.93 I mean, over the years, how many times 00:01:38.93\00:01:40.63 haven't you been inspired by the story of a single mother 00:01:40.63\00:01:43.80 who worked two or three jobs and did without sleep 00:01:43.80\00:01:46.40 and skipped meals so that her children 00:01:46.40\00:01:49.00 would have the chance to rise above poverty? 00:01:49.00\00:01:52.21 But that's not really what this book is driving at, 00:01:52.21\00:01:54.91 at least not in the opening chapters. 00:01:54.91\00:01:57.08 The author is driving it much bigger things, 00:01:57.08\00:02:00.18 cleaning up the environment, changing the moral landscape, 00:02:00.18\00:02:03.12 and establishing a more just society. 00:02:03.12\00:02:06.39 And again, who's really gonna argue with that, 00:02:06.39\00:02:09.69 except that I can't help but notice 00:02:09.69\00:02:11.63 that historically speaking, our very best efforts 00:02:11.63\00:02:14.36 to deliberately engineer a better future 00:02:14.36\00:02:17.50 have almost always ended in moral disaster, 00:02:17.50\00:02:20.94 which makes me really suspicious 00:02:20.94\00:02:22.94 about people who claim they have a blueprint 00:02:22.94\00:02:25.11 to a better almost utopian tomorrow. 00:02:25.11\00:02:28.78 I mean, let's just think about our recent history. 00:02:28.78\00:02:31.55 The most carefully engineered societies 00:02:31.55\00:02:33.78 that emerged in the 20th century 00:02:33.78\00:02:36.22 are now remembered as some of the most brutal. 00:02:36.22\00:02:40.22 And of course, Mr. MacAskill isn't naive 00:02:40.22\00:02:42.49 and he isn't promising utopia. 00:02:42.49\00:02:44.93 I'm just telling you that I have some grave reservations 00:02:44.93\00:02:48.73 about our ability to engineer a so-called 00:02:48.73\00:02:51.90 more just society for ourselves, 00:02:51.90\00:02:55.24 let alone people who live way down in the future. 00:02:55.24\00:02:58.61 Because what often happens when we do that 00:02:58.61\00:03:01.38 is that people become less important than policies. 00:03:01.38\00:03:05.05 And we usually find ourselves willing to get rid of people 00:03:05.05\00:03:08.05 who stand in the way of ideological objectives. 00:03:08.05\00:03:12.05 I mean, the death toll for the communist experiment 00:03:12.05\00:03:14.79 of the 20th century exceeded 100 million people, 00:03:14.79\00:03:19.13 and it produced several butchers like Joseph Stalin, 00:03:19.13\00:03:22.46 who didn't mind starving millions of his own subjects, 00:03:22.46\00:03:25.80 if it meant accumulating more power. 00:03:25.80\00:03:28.74 And I find it fascinating that the Bible talks about 00:03:28.74\00:03:32.07 a fatal flaw in our human character. 00:03:32.07\00:03:34.88 A flaw that we find ourselves incapable of fixing. 00:03:34.88\00:03:38.88 It says we're inherently selfish, 00:03:38.88\00:03:41.25 which is hard to argue with, 00:03:41.25\00:03:42.62 because generally speaking, it seems like 00:03:42.62\00:03:45.52 when many of the people who cry for more justice, 00:03:45.52\00:03:48.56 actually achieve a modicum of political power, 00:03:48.56\00:03:51.83 they somehow change and become part of the problem. 00:03:51.83\00:03:54.96 And so, I find myself kind of torn 00:03:56.10\00:03:58.00 when I see a book like MacAskill's, 00:03:58.00\00:04:00.07 because well, of course, we have a moral obligation 00:04:00.07\00:04:02.90 to our fellow human beings. 00:04:02.90\00:04:04.94 And of course, if the kingdom of God doesn't come first, 00:04:04.94\00:04:08.48 we want to leave the planet better than we found it. 00:04:08.48\00:04:11.38 So, generally speaking, obviously I'm in agreement, 00:04:11.38\00:04:15.18 but at the same time, I'm offering a giant word of 00:04:15.18\00:04:18.22 caution, because how many times over the course of recorded 00:04:18.22\00:04:22.42 history have we ever actually fixed something? 00:04:22.42\00:04:25.43 For example, I've brought this up before, 00:04:25.43\00:04:27.66 but countless generations have boldly proclaimed 00:04:27.66\00:04:31.10 the end of human war, 00:04:31.10\00:04:32.90 most famously, toward the end of the 19th century 00:04:32.90\00:04:36.14 and into the 20th. 00:04:36.14\00:04:38.01 But then by 1914, we had our first world war 00:04:38.01\00:04:41.74 followed very quickly by the second one, 00:04:41.74\00:04:44.58 and we witnessed a level of carnage 00:04:44.58\00:04:46.68 the world had never seen before. 00:04:46.68\00:04:49.82 In fact, if I'm remembering this correctly, 00:04:49.82\00:04:52.82 more than 200 million people died 00:04:52.82\00:04:55.36 across all the wars of the 20th century. 00:04:55.36\00:04:59.03 And of course, one of the key problems 00:04:59.03\00:05:00.70 we had in the middle of the 20th century 00:05:00.70\00:05:03.40 was the fact that Hitler's idea of a better tomorrow 00:05:03.40\00:05:05.90 clashed with the rest of the worlds, 00:05:05.90\00:05:08.20 and so did Stalins. 00:05:08.20\00:05:10.17 So, if we're going to start planning for a better tomorrow, 00:05:10.17\00:05:13.04 I mean, really make an effort to engineer a better world, 00:05:13.04\00:05:17.31 who gets to cast that vision? 00:05:17.31\00:05:19.81 Who gets to be in charge of it? 00:05:19.81\00:05:21.88 The hard reality of living on this planet 00:05:21.88\00:05:24.55 is that we have a huge proportion of the human 00:05:24.55\00:05:27.56 population who simply don't agree on what that utopia should 00:05:27.56\00:05:32.03 look like. Of course, again, I'm now going places 00:05:33.13\00:05:36.33 that the author doesn't actually go. 00:05:36.33\00:05:38.00 And so, I don't want you to think 00:05:38.00\00:05:39.40 he's pushing for a completely re-engineered society. 00:05:39.40\00:05:42.50 I mean, honestly, I haven't even finished 00:05:42.50\00:05:44.61 reading the book yet, 00:05:44.61\00:05:45.94 and maybe he does do that, I don't know. 00:05:45.94\00:05:48.28 But based on what I've read so far, I kind of doubt it. 00:05:48.28\00:05:52.11 I'm just considering what historically happens 00:05:52.11\00:05:54.95 when we begin to think we can somehow just apply human logic 00:05:54.95\00:05:59.19 and reason our way out of our very worst character traits. 00:05:59.19\00:06:04.26 But of course, that doesn't mean 00:06:05.06\00:06:06.46 I'm saying we shouldn't try. 00:06:06.46\00:06:08.20 Of course we should try. 00:06:08.20\00:06:10.13 I just think that treating society as if it's 00:06:10.13\00:06:12.27 some kind of scientific lab experiment is dangerous, 00:06:12.27\00:06:16.40 because it has never succeeded. 00:06:16.40\00:06:18.44 Not even once, why? 00:06:18.44\00:06:21.84 It's because there are too many variables, 00:06:21.84\00:06:24.11 too much potential for unintended consequences. 00:06:24.11\00:06:26.92 And of course, there's also the nagging problem 00:06:26.92\00:06:29.95 of our essentially selfish nature. 00:06:29.95\00:06:33.59 I mean, let's think about this. 00:06:33.59\00:06:35.52 When most people have to make a choice 00:06:35.52\00:06:37.89 between what's good for everybody else 00:06:37.89\00:06:40.43 and what's good for them, 00:06:40.43\00:06:42.30 well, what does our natural instinct drive us to do? 00:06:42.30\00:06:45.50 I think you know the answer, 00:06:47.00\00:06:48.24 because the people who instinctively do 00:06:48.24\00:06:50.31 what's good for somebody else are so rare 00:06:50.31\00:06:54.34 they actually surprise us. 00:06:54.34\00:06:56.21 We make heroes out of these people, 00:06:56.21\00:06:57.91 we name streets after them, we raise statues to their honor. 00:06:57.91\00:07:02.15 That's how rare, genuinely altruistic people really are. 00:07:02.15\00:07:07.22 So, for just a few minutes, 00:07:08.02\00:07:10.29 let's consider the moral implications 00:07:10.29\00:07:12.49 of trying to frame a world 00:07:12.49\00:07:14.30 that somebody else is gonna have to live in. 00:07:14.30\00:07:16.87 Of course, to some extent, we do that already every day. 00:07:16.87\00:07:20.37 All of the big decisions we make on this planet 00:07:20.37\00:07:23.47 are likely gonna change the way 00:07:23.47\00:07:24.97 that future generations are going to have to live. 00:07:24.97\00:07:28.08 That much is obvious. 00:07:28.08\00:07:30.25 And I think because we're building the future anyway, 00:07:30.25\00:07:33.52 we should be thinking about 00:07:33.52\00:07:34.78 negative consequences to the best of our ability, 00:07:34.78\00:07:38.12 and we should do what we can to avoid those. 00:07:38.12\00:07:41.46 And of course, as we do that, 00:07:41.46\00:07:43.36 we're going to get a lot of things wrong, 00:07:43.36\00:07:45.43 because there's no way we can accurately 00:07:45.43\00:07:48.66 anticipate the world of the future 00:07:48.66\00:07:50.87 any more than a group of Greek philosophers 00:07:50.87\00:07:53.60 living 600 years before Christ 00:07:53.60\00:07:56.00 could ever anticipate this world. 00:07:56.00\00:07:58.41 Where for example, I can talk to people face-to-face 00:07:58.41\00:08:01.84 in real time, anywhere on the planet, anytime I want. 00:08:01.84\00:08:06.92 Under those circumstances, I wouldn't necessarily 00:08:08.25\00:08:10.22 wanna live by the rules set way back then. 00:08:10.22\00:08:13.56 But just because we can't really imagine the future, 00:08:14.96\00:08:17.66 does that mean we shouldn't try to improve it? 00:08:17.66\00:08:20.90 Again, of course not. 00:08:20.90\00:08:23.10 But it's that whole problem 00:08:23.10\00:08:24.70 with our imperfect fallen natures that makes me 00:08:24.70\00:08:27.20 suspicious of people who claim to have all the answers, 00:08:27.20\00:08:30.91 because, well, that's never been the case. 00:08:30.91\00:08:34.74 Yet, still there's something in our hearts 00:08:34.74\00:08:36.54 that makes us want to follow people 00:08:36.54\00:08:38.21 who promise to make utopia happen, 00:08:38.21\00:08:40.98 and almost every single time we get sharply disappointed. 00:08:40.98\00:08:45.19 I mean, if you wanna see it on a smaller scale, 00:08:45.19\00:08:47.49 watch the election cycle every time it rolls out 00:08:47.49\00:08:50.33 here in the United States of America. 00:08:50.33\00:08:53.23 During the primary season, all kinds of promises are made 00:08:53.23\00:08:56.67 and somebody's poll numbers rise 00:08:56.67\00:08:58.60 as voters choose to believe them 00:08:58.60\00:09:01.37 and they start to lean in that candidate's direction. 00:09:01.37\00:09:04.61 In spite of our past experience, 00:09:04.61\00:09:06.31 people continue to get their hopes up. 00:09:06.31\00:09:08.28 And then when the candidates we believed in 00:09:08.28\00:09:10.81 are actually elected about two years into their term, 00:09:10.81\00:09:14.58 we usually, not always, 00:09:14.58\00:09:16.62 but we usually send their party 00:09:16.62\00:09:18.15 a disciplinary message in the midterms. 00:09:18.15\00:09:20.89 The poll numbers start to drop, 00:09:20.89\00:09:22.76 because yet again, another political candidate 00:09:22.76\00:09:25.73 didn't fix our worst problems. 00:09:25.73\00:09:29.20 Now, expand that idea across the entire planet 00:09:29.20\00:09:32.90 and ask yourself, 00:09:32.90\00:09:34.44 who exactly is going to be in charge of building utopia? 00:09:34.44\00:09:39.17 You want me to do it? 00:09:39.17\00:09:40.81 Because I don't want you to do it. 00:09:40.81\00:09:43.01 And I'll be right back after this. 00:09:43.01\00:09:45.35 - [Promoter] Here at The Voice of 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00:10:29.16\00:10:30.99 basically takes the position that 00:10:30.99\00:10:32.73 humanity as we recognize it now 00:10:32.73\00:10:35.50 emerged from the evolutionary process 00:10:35.50\00:10:37.40 about 300,000 years ago. 00:10:37.40\00:10:39.80 Then he suggests that the average lifespan 00:10:39.80\00:10:42.14 for a species of mammals is about a million years. 00:10:42.14\00:10:45.57 At which point he says, 00:10:45.57\00:10:47.08 "We turn into something else or we just go extinct." 00:10:47.08\00:10:50.31 Now, that's not the way that I look at things, 00:10:50.31\00:10:52.71 because it's not the biblical point of view. 00:10:52.71\00:10:55.55 But what he does with that idea 00:10:55.55\00:10:57.49 is propose that most of the human beings 00:10:57.49\00:10:59.72 who will ever live still don't exist. 00:10:59.72\00:11:02.62 Our biggest population he says, by a long shot, 00:11:02.62\00:11:05.99 will live in the very distant future. 00:11:05.99\00:11:08.33 And so because of that, we have a moral obligation 00:11:08.33\00:11:11.60 to those people because well, he thinks 00:11:11.60\00:11:14.20 they're going to outnumber us. 00:11:14.20\00:11:15.90 But where exactly does he get that idea? 00:11:16.97\00:11:19.37 Why does he assume that greater numbers of people 00:11:19.37\00:11:21.81 are worth more than fewer numbers of people? 00:11:21.81\00:11:24.71 Why would he assign moral worth to the size of a population? 00:11:24.71\00:11:28.95 I mean, I get it. 00:11:28.95\00:11:30.22 When you live in a Western democracy, 00:11:30.22\00:11:32.02 you're raised in the idea that the majority must rule. 00:11:32.02\00:11:35.59 And so, more people will always seem like 00:11:35.59\00:11:38.09 they carry more value than less people. 00:11:38.09\00:11:40.73 But why, and how are we supposed to know that? 00:11:40.73\00:11:44.70 Now, again, I don't believe this, 00:11:44.70\00:11:47.17 but suppose that we really did emerge 00:11:47.17\00:11:49.30 as a unique species 300,000 years ago, 00:11:49.30\00:11:51.61 just for the sake of argument. 00:11:51.61\00:11:54.14 How exactly did that happen? 00:11:54.14\00:11:55.98 Was it an accident? 00:11:55.98\00:11:57.65 Did incredibly vast amounts of time coupled with chance 00:11:57.65\00:12:00.55 somehow accidentally produce the human race, 00:12:00.55\00:12:03.45 self-conscious, self-aware, rational people? 00:12:03.45\00:12:07.16 And if we really got here by accident, 00:12:07.16\00:12:09.36 why is there any moral worth to preserving anything? 00:12:09.36\00:12:13.23 I mean, it's just an accident, right? 00:12:13.23\00:12:15.20 And at some point it's all going to disappear. 00:12:15.20\00:12:17.13 And then 100 million years after that, the theory says, 00:12:17.13\00:12:20.87 nobody's ever gonna know that we even existed. 00:12:20.87\00:12:23.24 So, who's to say that our presence in this galaxy 00:12:24.61\00:12:27.04 has any moral worth? 00:12:27.04\00:12:28.84 And why should we assume that the needs 00:12:28.84\00:12:30.71 of some future majority are more important than my needs? 00:12:30.71\00:12:34.42 Where does that idea come from? 00:12:34.42\00:12:36.45 I mean, you and I are going to be dead 00:12:36.45\00:12:37.95 when that distant future arrives. 00:12:37.95\00:12:39.52 So, why in the world should we care about it? 00:12:39.52\00:12:42.82 Now, don't get me wrong, 00:12:42.82\00:12:44.23 I'm not arguing that future people don't matter. 00:12:44.23\00:12:46.33 I'm just asking why. 00:12:46.33\00:12:48.86 Where exactly do these moral values, 00:12:48.86\00:12:51.10 these moral price tags, actually come from? 00:12:51.10\00:12:54.30 Somebody might argue that it's a matter of self-preservation 00:12:54.30\00:12:57.21 for the human race that we need to keep humanity going, 00:12:57.21\00:13:00.31 and that makes it a moral issue. 00:13:00.31\00:13:02.84 But why? 00:13:02.84\00:13:04.31 I mean, we all understand that we're going to die anyway. 00:13:04.31\00:13:06.61 And after the passage of this much human history, 00:13:06.61\00:13:09.68 we should understand that suffering 00:13:09.68\00:13:11.62 is probably gonna be a part of every generation anyway. 00:13:11.62\00:13:14.99 So, who's to say that the future happiness of people 00:13:14.99\00:13:18.53 we will never meet is more important than ours? 00:13:18.53\00:13:21.93 Why should I sacrifice for people who don't even exist yet? 00:13:21.93\00:13:26.13 And again, just in case somebody's tuning in right now, 00:13:26.13\00:13:28.70 let me emphasize, this isn't the way I actually think. 00:13:28.70\00:13:32.51 I come to the world from a Christian perspective, 00:13:32.51\00:13:34.91 which absolutely requires that we esteem 00:13:34.91\00:13:37.85 other people as more important than ourselves. 00:13:37.85\00:13:40.12 After all notice what it says in Philippians chapter two, 00:13:40.12\00:13:44.32 "Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, 00:13:44.32\00:13:47.66 but in humility count others 00:13:47.66\00:13:49.29 more significant than yourselves." 00:13:49.29\00:13:52.56 Biblical Christians believe in selflessness, 00:13:52.56\00:13:55.26 because that's the example of Christ 00:13:55.26\00:13:57.40 who sacrificed everything for our future happiness. 00:13:57.40\00:14:01.10 And the very reason that I'm free 00:14:01.10\00:14:02.67 to own a copy of the Bible at all, 00:14:02.67\00:14:05.01 is because so many Christians living in the past 00:14:05.01\00:14:07.71 were willing to make absolutely massive sacrifices 00:14:07.71\00:14:11.18 to make sure of it. 00:14:11.18\00:14:13.08 What we have from the biblical perspective 00:14:13.08\00:14:15.82 is the belief that there is such a thing 00:14:15.82\00:14:18.25 as an authentic human life. 00:14:18.25\00:14:19.95 A right way to live with authentic human values 00:14:19.95\00:14:23.73 provided by the Creator. 00:14:23.73\00:14:26.03 We may not do it perfectly, in fact, we seldom do, 00:14:26.03\00:14:29.53 but when it comes to considering others, 00:14:29.53\00:14:31.63 including people who might live way off in the future, 00:14:31.63\00:14:34.47 there's a solid reason for doing this. 00:14:34.47\00:14:36.97 We're living in harmony with a pattern that God established. 00:14:36.97\00:14:41.41 And by no means do I believe that you have to be a Christian 00:14:41.41\00:14:45.25 to be a decent or moral person. 00:14:45.25\00:14:47.92 And I say that because I've heard a lot of Christians 00:14:47.92\00:14:50.59 suggest that atheists do not have the capacity to be moral, 00:14:50.59\00:14:54.42 which is silly. 00:14:54.42\00:14:56.32 Most of the atheists I've met are good and decent people, 00:14:56.32\00:14:59.63 at least to the extent that anybody can be. 00:14:59.63\00:15:02.73 What I'm really questioning is where our values come from. 00:15:02.73\00:15:07.20 If our morality is just a matter of social convention, 00:15:07.20\00:15:10.21 if it's just an arbitrary social contract, 00:15:10.21\00:15:13.38 is that really a moral reason 00:15:13.38\00:15:15.54 to behave well and consider others? 00:15:15.54\00:15:18.25 And here's another question 00:15:18.25\00:15:19.35 for atheists and believers alike. 00:15:19.35\00:15:21.45 Is the biblical maxim, 00:15:21.45\00:15:22.72 "Whatever you wish that others would do to you, 00:15:22.72\00:15:25.35 do also to them." 00:15:25.35\00:15:27.32 Well, is that really enough to make your actions moral? 00:15:27.32\00:15:30.69 Because if you're treating others well 00:15:30.69\00:15:32.16 just because that's what you would like for yourself, 00:15:32.16\00:15:35.50 have you really overcome that basic instinct 00:15:35.50\00:15:38.00 that puts self first? 00:15:38.00\00:15:40.07 You know, in that same passage, 00:15:41.14\00:15:43.10 Jesus taught that we're supposed to treat others 00:15:43.10\00:15:45.44 as we would like to be treated, 00:15:45.44\00:15:46.94 because that's the essence of the law and the prophets. 00:15:46.94\00:15:51.05 When somebody asks Jesus, 00:15:51.05\00:15:52.45 "Which of the moral commandments was the greatest?" 00:15:52.45\00:15:55.48 Jesus answered by saying this, 00:15:55.48\00:15:57.29 and you'll find it in Matthew 22, 00:15:57.29\00:16:00.19 "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart 00:16:00.19\00:16:03.22 and with all your soul and with all your mind. 00:16:03.22\00:16:06.06 This is the great and first commandment. 00:16:06.06\00:16:08.33 And a second is like it: 00:16:08.33\00:16:09.86 You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 00:16:09.86\00:16:12.40 On these two commandments 00:16:12.40\00:16:13.94 depend all the Law and the Prophets." 00:16:13.94\00:16:17.21 In other words, the very essence of God's moral law 00:16:17.21\00:16:20.14 is love and selflessness, 00:16:20.14\00:16:22.51 and that's because God's moral law 00:16:22.51\00:16:24.58 is a transcript of who He is. 00:16:24.58\00:16:26.31 It's a picture of His character. 00:16:26.31\00:16:28.58 The Book of Genesis says that you and I were made, 00:16:28.58\00:16:31.12 at least originally, in the image of God. 00:16:31.12\00:16:34.09 As a perfect reflection of His loving character. 00:16:34.09\00:16:37.43 And then we twisted that terribly 00:16:37.43\00:16:39.43 putting our own wants ahead of absolutely everything else. 00:16:39.43\00:16:43.73 And that's the reason that utopian experiments always fail. 00:16:45.03\00:16:48.67 It's because we're tragically flawed. 00:16:48.67\00:16:51.21 And when those experiments fail, 00:16:51.21\00:16:52.97 we have no problem blaming the people who ruined it 00:16:52.97\00:16:56.21 While assuring ourselves that we 00:16:56.21\00:16:57.91 would never, ever cause those kinds of problems. 00:16:57.91\00:17:01.42 I mean, if I was in charge, 00:17:01.42\00:17:03.28 I could pretty much fix everything, right? 00:17:03.28\00:17:05.92 Except you and I both know that's not true. 00:17:05.92\00:17:09.59 Let's suppose for the sake of argument 00:17:09.59\00:17:11.26 that I really, really want to make the world a better place 00:17:11.26\00:17:14.40 1,000 years into the future. 00:17:14.40\00:17:16.70 How exactly am I supposed to guess 00:17:16.70\00:17:18.87 what's going to be beneficial 1,000 years from now? 00:17:18.87\00:17:22.37 And how am I supposed to guess what culture will look like 00:17:22.37\00:17:25.27 and what kinds of things people are going to value? 00:17:25.27\00:17:28.48 I mean, let's suppose that our ancestors 00:17:28.48\00:17:30.71 did the same thing 1,000 years ago. 00:17:30.71\00:17:32.51 They hatched a plan to improve our lives. 00:17:32.51\00:17:36.22 Would you really want a medieval doctor 00:17:36.22\00:17:38.15 planning your healthcare, 00:17:38.15\00:17:39.69 or a medieval anybody planning anything? 00:17:39.69\00:17:42.82 It's a ridiculous proposition. 00:17:42.82\00:17:45.13 And yet, because of the perpetual arrogance 00:17:45.13\00:17:47.40 of every generation, we like to think 00:17:47.40\00:17:49.43 that we're a lot smarter than the people who came before us. 00:17:49.43\00:17:53.30 But what if our choices actually end up promoting suffering 00:17:54.60\00:17:57.54 the way they almost always do? 00:17:57.54\00:18:00.14 Wouldn't our tinkering then become a moral transgression? 00:18:00.14\00:18:03.91 Again, I'm not arguing that we shouldn't try. 00:18:03.91\00:18:06.25 Please don't misunderstand. 00:18:06.25\00:18:08.58 But I am thinking we should be very careful 00:18:08.58\00:18:11.49 before we assume that we actually know what we're doing. 00:18:11.49\00:18:14.82 I mean, how many times 00:18:14.82\00:18:16.29 have our very best efforts resulted in disaster? 00:18:16.29\00:18:19.89 How many times haven't we pointed a finger at our 00:18:19.89\00:18:22.70 ancestors blaming them for the condition of our world? 00:18:22.70\00:18:26.37 I'll be right back. 00:18:26.37\00:18:28.00 [upbeat music] 00:18:28.00\00:18:31.04 - [Promoter] Dragons, beasts, cryptic statues. 00:18:31.04\00:18:35.31 Bible prophecy can be incredibly 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00:19:15.25\00:19:17.62 is never going to end with paradise. 00:19:17.62\00:19:20.29 And that's the book of Daniel. 00:19:20.29\00:19:22.69 Here's the basic premise. 00:19:22.69\00:19:23.89 A young Jewish noble named Daniel 00:19:23.89\00:19:25.96 is taken captive to Babylon along with everybody else. 00:19:25.96\00:19:29.60 God allowed the Babylonians to conquer the city of Jerusalem 00:19:29.60\00:19:32.93 and burn down the temple, 00:19:32.93\00:19:34.90 because His people had to abandon their mission 00:19:34.90\00:19:37.91 and tried very hard to become like their neighbors 00:19:37.91\00:19:41.11 to the point where they actually 00:19:41.11\00:19:42.78 adopted their religious beliefs. 00:19:42.78\00:19:45.15 So, at the end of the day, there was no point 00:19:45.15\00:19:47.75 to keeping the temple in Jerusalem, 00:19:47.75\00:19:49.45 because it didn't mean anything anymore. 00:19:49.45\00:19:52.12 What we get in the Book of Daniel 00:19:53.19\00:19:54.66 is an exploration of what it means 00:19:54.66\00:19:56.69 to live under the thumb of other nations 00:19:56.69\00:19:58.99 instead of the government of God. 00:19:58.99\00:20:01.56 In Daniel chapter two, we see the rise and fall 00:20:01.56\00:20:04.80 of successive world empires 00:20:04.80\00:20:06.40 depicted as a statue made of different metals. 00:20:06.40\00:20:09.87 And as history progresses, 00:20:09.87\00:20:11.34 the metals become more and more brittle 00:20:11.34\00:20:13.68 and less and less valuable. 00:20:13.68\00:20:15.84 Then in chapter seven, we see those same kingdoms 00:20:15.84\00:20:18.85 portrayed as animals rising from the sea 00:20:18.85\00:20:21.38 walking onto the shore. 00:20:21.38\00:20:23.49 The Jews believed that their nation was a protected island 00:20:23.49\00:20:26.55 in the midst of gentile nations, 00:20:26.55\00:20:28.39 a kind of oasis of covenant grace. 00:20:28.39\00:20:32.13 But in Daniel seven, the nation of Israel 00:20:32.13\00:20:34.83 is being dominated by one gentile nation after the other, 00:20:34.83\00:20:39.00 and that's why they're seen coming up on the shore. 00:20:39.00\00:20:41.94 And the thing that drives it all, nonstop warfare. 00:20:41.94\00:20:45.84 The Book of Daniels shows us an ocean of humanity 00:20:45.84\00:20:48.58 being whipped up by the wind. 00:20:48.58\00:20:50.31 And as the turmoil continues, 00:20:50.31\00:20:52.31 one human kingdom after another fights for power 00:20:52.31\00:20:55.85 and replaces the one that came before it. 00:20:55.85\00:20:58.42 It's really a very accurate description 00:20:58.42\00:21:00.79 of the world's history. 00:21:00.79\00:21:02.46 And you can be sure as each new empire 00:21:03.56\00:21:05.33 took its place on the world stage, 00:21:05.33\00:21:07.13 it was brimming with promise. 00:21:07.13\00:21:09.40 I mean, get out of our way Babylonians, 00:21:09.40\00:21:11.43 the Persians are here 00:21:11.43\00:21:12.77 and they're gonna show you how it's done. 00:21:12.77\00:21:15.17 Until of course, the Greeks appear on the horizon 00:21:15.17\00:21:17.74 and take their turn. 00:21:17.74\00:21:19.51 This progression of failed empires 00:21:19.51\00:21:21.28 continues until we get to the heavenly judgment 00:21:21.28\00:21:24.68 when everybody gets called on the carpet. 00:21:24.68\00:21:27.92 And that results in this scene found in Daniel 7:17. 00:21:27.92\00:21:32.55 It says, "I saw in the night visions 00:21:32.55\00:21:35.16 and behold, with the clouds of heaven 00:21:35.16\00:21:36.86 there came one like a son of man, 00:21:36.86\00:21:38.83 and he came to the Ancient of Days 00:21:38.83\00:21:40.56 and was presented before him. 00:21:40.56\00:21:42.73 And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, 00:21:42.73\00:21:45.93 that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; 00:21:45.93\00:21:49.50 his dominion is an everlasting dominion, 00:21:49.50\00:21:52.01 which shall not pass away, 00:21:52.01\00:21:54.01 and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed." 00:21:54.01\00:21:58.78 You know what it's telling us? 00:21:58.78\00:22:01.02 You and I are not gonna fix this place. 00:22:01.02\00:22:03.35 It's not gonna happen. 00:22:03.35\00:22:04.85 And again, that doesn't mean 00:22:04.85\00:22:06.32 we don't have a moral obligation to help people, 00:22:06.32\00:22:08.56 because we do. 00:22:08.56\00:22:10.19 In fact, every Christian should take very careful note 00:22:10.19\00:22:13.60 of Jesus' words over in Matthew chapter 25, 00:22:13.60\00:22:16.80 where he says, "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, 00:22:16.80\00:22:20.40 and all the angels with him, 00:22:20.40\00:22:22.14 then he will sit on his glorious throne. 00:22:22.14\00:22:24.84 Before him will be gathered all the nations, 00:22:24.84\00:22:27.11 and he will separate people one from another 00:22:27.11\00:22:29.74 as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 00:22:29.74\00:22:32.98 And he will place the sheep on his right, 00:22:32.98\00:22:34.75 but the goats on the left. 00:22:34.75\00:22:36.99 Then the king will say to those on his right, 00:22:36.99\00:22:39.42 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father, 00:22:39.42\00:22:41.92 inherit the kingdom prepared for you 00:22:41.92\00:22:44.06 from the foundation of the world. 00:22:44.06\00:22:46.29 For I was hungry and you gave me food, 00:22:46.29\00:22:48.60 I was thirsty and you gave me drink, 00:22:48.60\00:22:50.83 I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 00:22:50.83\00:22:53.10 I was naked and you clothed me, 00:22:53.10\00:22:54.84 I was sick and you visited me, 00:22:54.84\00:22:56.81 I was in prison and you came to me." 00:22:56.81\00:23:00.24 So yeah, we do have a duty to help our fellow human beings. 00:23:00.24\00:23:04.15 The very character of God demands that. 00:23:04.15\00:23:08.02 You can trust your instinct to help people. 00:23:08.02\00:23:11.42 But when it comes to manmade utopian experiments, 00:23:11.42\00:23:14.72 well, I think the Book of Daniel 00:23:14.72\00:23:15.96 has proven to be absolutely right. 00:23:15.96\00:23:18.19 Not one of those experiments so far 00:23:18.19\00:23:20.70 has done anything to make us happier, 00:23:20.70\00:23:23.60 because not one of them can fix our fundamental flaw. 00:23:23.60\00:23:27.44 We're sinners trapped by a selfish perspective 00:23:27.44\00:23:30.74 that is never going to change through anything we do. 00:23:30.74\00:23:34.18 Anybody putting absolute faith in people to fix this world, 00:23:34.18\00:23:38.01 is going to be bitterly disappointed. 00:23:38.01\00:23:40.42 I mean, we've never pulled it off in the past, 00:23:40.42\00:23:43.12 and I don't believe for a moment 00:23:43.12\00:23:45.05 we're going to pull it off in the future. 00:23:45.05\00:23:47.49 So, why trust mere people with the future of the planet? 00:23:47.49\00:23:51.73 Again, that doesn't mean it doesn't need fixing, 00:23:51.73\00:23:54.76 it just means that fixing it 00:23:54.76\00:23:56.53 is going to take something more than what we have to offer. 00:23:56.53\00:24:00.04 So, who do you want to trust with the future? 00:24:01.17\00:24:03.64 Self-interested people who always seem to use others 00:24:03.64\00:24:06.74 to accomplish their aims, 00:24:06.74\00:24:08.81 or would you rather have a God who sacrificed everything 00:24:08.81\00:24:11.95 to secure a future for you? 00:24:11.95\00:24:14.22 Historically speaking, there was only one person 00:24:14.22\00:24:17.02 who perfectly reflected the image of God, 00:24:17.02\00:24:20.02 one person who lived a completely selfless life, 00:24:20.02\00:24:23.16 one person who was willing to lose everything, 00:24:23.16\00:24:25.99 if it meant your utter and complete restoration. 00:24:25.99\00:24:29.30 And I would like to suggest that 00:24:29.30\00:24:30.83 before you believe any more promises 00:24:30.83\00:24:32.90 from well-meaning politicians or social engineers, 00:24:32.90\00:24:36.34 that you consider the claims of Christ, 00:24:36.34\00:24:38.74 because maybe just maybe he really does have the ability 00:24:38.74\00:24:42.51 to give you the peace of God, 00:24:42.51\00:24:45.35 which surpasses all understanding. 00:24:45.35\00:24:47.92 I'll be right back after this. 00:24:47.92\00:24:50.45 [upbeat music] 00:24:50.45\00:24:53.09 - [Promoter] Life can throw a lot at us. 00:24:54.16\00:24:56.32 Sometimes we don't have all the answers, 00:24:56.32\00:24:59.73 but that's where the Bible comes in. 00:24:59.73\00:25:02.13 It's our guide to a more fulfilling life. 00:25:02.13\00:25:05.23 Here at The Voice of Prophecy, 00:25:05.23\00:25:06.80 we've created the "Discover Bible" guides 00:25:06.80\00:25:08.90 to be your guide to the Bible. 00:25:08.90\00:25:10.54 They're designed to be simple, easy to use, 00:25:10.54\00:25:13.01 and provide answers to many of life's toughest questions, 00:25:13.01\00:25:16.04 and they're absolutely free. 00:25:16.04\00:25:18.05 So, jump online now, or give us a call, 00:25:18.05\00:25:20.42 and start your journey of discovery. 00:25:20.42\00:25:23.28 - Here's one of the problems with trying to engineer 00:25:23.28\00:25:25.49 a better future for your grandkids, 00:25:25.49\00:25:27.52 and that's our skewed understanding 00:25:27.52\00:25:29.62 of what makes people happy. 00:25:29.62\00:25:31.79 I mean, just think back to the world's fairs 00:25:31.79\00:25:33.53 of the 18 and 1900s 00:25:33.53\00:25:35.16 or some of the articles that appeared 00:25:35.16\00:25:37.07 in "Popular Science" journals back in the 1950s. 00:25:37.07\00:25:40.70 Everybody was optimistic, 00:25:40.70\00:25:42.40 because technology promised more leisure time and less work. 00:25:42.40\00:25:47.14 But when we actually made life more convenient, 00:25:47.14\00:25:49.64 we weren't any happier. 00:25:49.64\00:25:50.98 In fact, I think it's the opposite. 00:25:50.98\00:25:54.02 Our generation has more comfort, more security, 00:25:54.02\00:25:56.79 more disposable income 00:25:56.79\00:25:58.42 than almost any generation that came before it, 00:25:58.42\00:26:01.56 but we're not happier than our ancestors. 00:26:01.56\00:26:04.09 We're just a little more comfortable. 00:26:04.09\00:26:07.00 I mean, just ask yourself, why are we dealing 00:26:07.00\00:26:10.00 with unusually high levels of depression and anxiety? 00:26:10.00\00:26:13.40 Why has the political world become more divided, 00:26:13.40\00:26:16.04 more polarized, and more hostile? 00:26:16.04\00:26:19.11 Apparently, all the technology in the world 00:26:19.11\00:26:22.18 hasn't fixed our worst problems. 00:26:22.18\00:26:24.45 Again, let's think about that experiment 00:26:25.51\00:26:27.28 that was the former Soviet Union. 00:26:27.28\00:26:29.22 All those five-year economic plans, 00:26:29.22\00:26:30.92 all those carefully thought out government initiatives, 00:26:30.92\00:26:34.16 none of them did anything to help. 00:26:34.16\00:26:36.76 In fact, apart from a handful of party elites, 00:26:36.76\00:26:40.50 those decisions made people more miserable. 00:26:40.50\00:26:43.53 So, are we really smart enough 00:26:43.53\00:26:45.80 to figure out what's gonna make the human race happy? 00:26:45.80\00:26:49.14 Again, God absolutely expects us to alleviate suffering. 00:26:49.14\00:26:54.08 He expects us to feed the hungry and clothe the poor. 00:26:54.08\00:26:57.15 He expects us to care for the planet, 00:26:57.15\00:26:59.08 and yes, leave it better than we found it. 00:26:59.08\00:27:02.55 But at the same time, I think we should remember 00:27:02.55\00:27:04.42 a couple of important realities. 00:27:04.42\00:27:07.06 One, trying to tinker with the future 00:27:07.06\00:27:09.49 in ways we think is appropriate, 00:27:09.49\00:27:11.93 that's probably a losing game. 00:27:11.93\00:27:14.36 Two, speaking from a biblical perspective, 00:27:14.36\00:27:17.80 we know we're not gonna fix it. 00:27:17.80\00:27:19.97 The Bible indicates quite clearly 00:27:19.97\00:27:22.07 that you're not gonna solve what's wrong with this place. 00:27:22.07\00:27:25.11 Our existence is a little bit 00:27:25.11\00:27:26.47 like an old-fashioned Greek tragedy. 00:27:26.47\00:27:29.68 It doesn't matter how well you plan, 00:27:29.68\00:27:31.98 if you can't get rid of your fatal flaw, 00:27:31.98\00:27:34.38 it's going to destroy you. 00:27:34.38\00:27:36.45 From the Bible's perspective, the problem only gets solved 00:27:36.45\00:27:40.12 after the judgment when the Son of Man receives His kingdom 00:27:40.12\00:27:44.16 and He restores this world to what it's supposed to be. 00:27:44.16\00:27:47.66 And I don't know about you, 00:27:47.66\00:27:49.36 but if God is real, and I know He is, 00:27:49.36\00:27:52.07 then I think you'd rather have Him plan the future 00:27:52.07\00:27:54.84 than somebody like me. 00:27:54.84\00:27:56.84 Thanks for joining me. 00:27:56.84\00:27:58.31 I'm Shawn Boonstra, and you've been watching "Authentic". 00:27:58.31\00:28:02.48 [upbeat music] 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