- Over the last few years, 00:00:00.86\00:00:02.06 I've noticed this disturbing new trend 00:00:02.06\00:00:04.00 toward having official bodies 00:00:04.00\00:00:06.27 regulate the ideas that get posted on the internet, 00:00:06.27\00:00:09.77 to the point of actually deplatforming and censoring 00:00:09.77\00:00:13.81 people. And today I'm gonna tell you why I think 00:00:13.81\00:00:16.04 that might be a really, really bad idea. 00:00:16.04\00:00:21.05 [gentle guitar music] 00:00:21.05\00:00:24.22 Most people know that I'm a huge fan of the printed word. 00:00:41.67\00:00:45.07 I love my books, 00:00:45.07\00:00:46.94 and I'd rather spend a day reading 00:00:46.94\00:00:48.61 than doing just about anything else. 00:00:48.61\00:00:51.75 And even though it's not really cataloged 00:00:51.75\00:00:54.28 and organized like a real library, 00:00:54.28\00:00:56.55 my study today probably boasts a larger collection of books 00:00:56.55\00:01:00.59 than some of the schools I went to when I was a kid. 00:01:00.59\00:01:02.99 And that's not really that much of an accomplishment, 00:01:02.99\00:01:05.56 because I went to some really tiny schools 00:01:05.56\00:01:07.86 with really tiny libraries. 00:01:07.86\00:01:10.50 Today I've got thousands of books 00:01:10.50\00:01:12.93 sitting in piles all over the house. 00:01:12.93\00:01:15.37 I actually just got rid of about 2000 of them. 00:01:15.37\00:01:19.47 And I think one of the biggest frustrations 00:01:19.47\00:01:21.78 that I'm facing now in the back half of my life 00:01:21.78\00:01:25.15 is the realization I'm never ever gonna be able 00:01:25.15\00:01:28.22 to read everything I wanna read. 00:01:28.22\00:01:30.15 I won't even be able to read what I have at home, 00:01:30.15\00:01:33.32 even after giving so much of it away. 00:01:33.32\00:01:35.36 And trust me, I wanna read everything. 00:01:35.36\00:01:37.66 I wanna read politics, history, religion, 00:01:37.66\00:01:39.59 science, math, philosophy, foreign languages, 00:01:39.59\00:01:42.33 you name it. 00:01:42.33\00:01:43.43 There's almost no such thing 00:01:43.43\00:01:44.97 as a subject I'm not interested in. 00:01:44.97\00:01:47.57 The only problem is, 00:01:47.57\00:01:49.14 I'll never have the time. 00:01:49.14\00:01:50.81 I'm gonna die before I'm finished. 00:01:50.81\00:01:53.07 Access to information is a privilege 00:01:54.18\00:01:56.11 that you and I mostly take for granted, 00:01:56.11\00:01:58.71 and we probably shouldn't, 00:01:58.71\00:02:00.25 because in the not too distant past, 00:02:00.25\00:02:02.05 access to the printed word was not as easy as it is now. 00:02:02.05\00:02:06.29 Almost any student of history knows 00:02:06.29\00:02:08.12 that people with a thirst for knowledge 00:02:08.12\00:02:10.33 have often had to fight against, 00:02:10.33\00:02:12.39 or even hide from, religious and political powers 00:02:12.39\00:02:15.70 who wanted to control what people were allowed to read. 00:02:15.70\00:02:18.93 When the British playwright Edward Lytton coined the phrase, 00:02:20.34\00:02:22.70 "The pen is mightier than the sword," he was right. 00:02:22.70\00:02:26.51 It isn't really armies that pull down existing regimes. 00:02:26.51\00:02:30.51 It's ideas that put those armies 00:02:30.51\00:02:32.68 in the field in the first place. 00:02:32.68\00:02:34.78 And so it stands to reason 00:02:34.78\00:02:36.38 that people who hold a lot of power 00:02:36.38\00:02:38.89 do not want that power to be challenged by the written word, 00:02:38.89\00:02:42.49 a method of communication that spreads very quickly 00:02:42.49\00:02:45.73 and has the potential 00:02:45.73\00:02:46.96 to generate an awful lot of political unrest. 00:02:46.96\00:02:50.90 Historically, the solution 00:02:50.90\00:02:52.57 that many powerful people came up with 00:02:52.57\00:02:54.30 was the banning of books 00:02:54.30\00:02:55.84 and the silencing of so-called heretics. 00:02:55.84\00:02:59.34 The freedoms that you and I enjoy, 00:02:59.34\00:03:00.94 the freedom to access whatever information we want 00:03:00.94\00:03:03.85 whenever we want, 00:03:03.85\00:03:05.81 that was a very rare thing in the not too distant past. 00:03:05.81\00:03:09.58 Just wind the clock back a little bit 00:03:10.75\00:03:12.99 and visit the ancient Greeks, 00:03:12.99\00:03:14.66 and you find stories of people whose new or dangerous ideas 00:03:14.66\00:03:19.19 were driven underground by force. 00:03:19.19\00:03:21.83 And even a respected luminary like Plato 00:03:21.83\00:03:25.17 argued that in an ideal republic, 00:03:25.17\00:03:28.20 you would have to practice censorship 00:03:28.20\00:03:30.07 to prevent bad ideas from corrupting the citizens. 00:03:30.07\00:03:34.48 Just listen to these words 00:03:34.48\00:03:36.01 that Plato puts in the mouth of Socrates. 00:03:36.01\00:03:39.18 He says, "Such, then, I said, 00:03:39.18\00:03:41.72 "are our principles of theology. 00:03:41.72\00:03:43.85 "Some tales are to be told, 00:03:43.85\00:03:45.65 "and others are not to be told 00:03:45.65\00:03:47.36 "to our disciples from their youth upward, 00:03:47.36\00:03:49.56 "if we mean them to honor the gods and their parents, 00:03:49.56\00:03:52.16 "and to value friendship with one another." 00:03:52.16\00:03:55.40 Now, that's not exactly a call 00:03:55.40\00:03:57.43 for a good old-fashioned book burning, 00:03:57.43\00:03:59.40 but it does reveal Plato's fear 00:03:59.40\00:04:02.00 that some ideas are too dangerous 00:04:02.00\00:04:04.61 to allow them to remain in circulation. 00:04:04.61\00:04:07.31 And he certainly wasn't the only Greek philosopher 00:04:07.31\00:04:10.08 who believed that. 00:04:10.08\00:04:11.15 Long before Plato, 00:04:11.15\00:04:12.61 Athens produced another philosopher 00:04:12.61\00:04:14.82 by the name of Protagoras, 00:04:14.82\00:04:16.48 who is probably most famous for giving us the phrase, 00:04:16.48\00:04:19.79 "Man is the measure of all things." 00:04:19.79\00:04:23.22 Much to the frustration of the good people of Athens, 00:04:23.22\00:04:26.13 Protagoras was an agnostic, 00:04:26.13\00:04:27.83 somebody who harbored doubts 00:04:27.83\00:04:29.70 that the pagan gods of Greece really existed. 00:04:29.70\00:04:33.13 In a book that we no longer have, 00:04:33.13\00:04:35.24 this is what Protagoras apparently said, 00:04:35.24\00:04:38.17 at least according to those who quoted him. 00:04:38.17\00:04:40.84 "Concerning the gods," he said, 00:04:40.84\00:04:42.51 "I have no means of knowing whether they exist or not 00:04:42.51\00:04:45.98 "or of what sort they may be, 00:04:45.98\00:04:47.98 "because of the obscurity of the subject, 00:04:47.98\00:04:50.45 "and the brevity of human life." 00:04:50.45\00:04:53.05 Well, that offended everybody. 00:04:53.05\00:04:54.99 And the Athenians had Protagoras deported, 00:04:54.99\00:04:57.53 and then they publicly burned his books. 00:04:57.53\00:05:00.70 You'd think, given the inquisitive nature of the 00:05:00.70\00:05:03.30 Greeks, that book burnings 00:05:03.30\00:05:04.73 would be completely out of place in Athens. 00:05:04.73\00:05:07.70 But even Plato, for all his love of new ideas, 00:05:07.70\00:05:11.37 absolutely hated another philosopher named Democritus. 00:05:11.37\00:05:15.04 And Plato wanted to burn all of his books. 00:05:15.04\00:05:18.58 Censorship, even violent censorship, 00:05:19.71\00:05:23.02 is an attitude that has reared its ugly head 00:05:23.02\00:05:25.32 thousands of times over the course 00:05:25.32\00:05:26.99 of our rather colorful human history. 00:05:26.99\00:05:29.69 Move the clock forward now about 2,500 years after Plato, 00:05:29.69\00:05:34.03 and you'll find me sitting in a seminary class 00:05:34.03\00:05:36.90 where the discussion suddenly turns to the media materials 00:05:36.90\00:05:40.27 that were available over in the Student Union building. 00:05:40.27\00:05:43.74 And there was this guy sitting in the front row of my class 00:05:43.74\00:05:46.74 who I hope never ever made it into the ministry, 00:05:46.74\00:05:49.98 because, well, he became visibly upset 00:05:49.98\00:05:52.71 when he found out that the Student Union building 00:05:52.71\00:05:54.88 actually harbored some materials 00:05:54.88\00:05:57.32 that did not quite agree with the theology of the church. 00:05:57.32\00:06:01.09 "What we need," this guy said, 00:06:01.09\00:06:02.79 "is an old-fashioned book burning." 00:06:02.79\00:06:04.73 And I thought he was joking, but he wasn't. 00:06:04.73\00:06:07.13 In fact, he organized a petition 00:06:07.13\00:06:09.40 trying to force the university 00:06:09.40\00:06:10.90 to get rid of all of the books that this guy didn't like. 00:06:10.90\00:06:14.64 Now, the only signature he ever collected, fortunately, 00:06:14.64\00:06:17.67 was his own. 00:06:17.67\00:06:18.61 Now, I would like to pretend 00:06:19.51\00:06:21.24 that Christianity and censorship 00:06:21.24\00:06:22.78 have nothing to do with each other, 00:06:22.78\00:06:24.38 but of course, you know that's not true. 00:06:24.38\00:06:27.48 Tragically, the world of religion 00:06:27.48\00:06:29.22 is where book burnings and censorship 00:06:29.22\00:06:31.05 have had their most problematic manifestations. 00:06:31.05\00:06:34.49 Back in the middle of the 16th century, 00:06:34.49\00:06:36.69 in the wake of the Protestant Reformation, 00:06:36.69\00:06:39.43 the Church of Rome published a list of prohibited books, 00:06:39.43\00:06:43.00 and they actually maintained it in one form or another 00:06:43.00\00:06:45.83 all the way until 1966, 00:06:45.83\00:06:48.20 just a matter of months 00:06:48.20\00:06:49.80 before I made my entrance into the world. 00:06:49.80\00:06:52.47 So, yeah, Christians have done this. 00:06:52.47\00:06:55.38 Open a lot of religious books 00:06:55.38\00:06:57.38 published as recently as the 20th century, 00:06:57.38\00:07:00.22 and you'll notice that some of them have one 00:07:00.22\00:07:02.65 or sometimes two Latin pronouncements 00:07:02.65\00:07:05.22 printed on the title page. 00:07:05.22\00:07:07.06 Either "Nihil Obstat," which means that a religious censor, 00:07:07.06\00:07:11.03 usually a bishop or his delegate, 00:07:11.03\00:07:13.43 has declared the book to be doctrinally sound. 00:07:13.43\00:07:16.23 "Nihil Obstat" literally means "Nothing stands in the way," 00:07:16.23\00:07:20.60 so you're allowed to read it. 00:07:20.60\00:07:23.00 The other thing you might find 00:07:23.00\00:07:24.27 is the Latin word "imprimatur," 00:07:24.27\00:07:26.07 which means "Let it be printed." 00:07:26.07\00:07:28.71 It just means they have permission to print the book. 00:07:28.71\00:07:32.38 Of course, there's nothing inherently wrong 00:07:32.38\00:07:35.08 with marking a book like that, 00:07:35.08\00:07:36.58 because, well, some people might really appreciate 00:07:36.58\00:07:39.52 knowing if a book they're reading 00:07:39.52\00:07:40.92 contains problematic ideas or theology. 00:07:40.92\00:07:43.86 At least they can then be on the lookout for it. 00:07:43.86\00:07:47.03 But back in the 16th and 17th century, 00:07:47.03\00:07:49.46 possessing the wrong books, 00:07:49.46\00:07:51.70 well, that might just cost you everything. 00:07:51.70\00:07:53.87 And it wasn't just religious bodies that did this. 00:07:53.87\00:07:57.77 Back in 1643, at the height of the English Civil War, 00:07:57.77\00:08:02.01 the British Parliament passed something 00:08:02.01\00:08:03.85 called the Ordinance for the Regulation of Printing. 00:08:03.85\00:08:07.52 And just a few years before that, 00:08:07.52\00:08:09.58 they abolished the notorious Star Chamber, 00:08:09.58\00:08:12.59 a kind of higher court 00:08:12.59\00:08:14.42 that oversaw the activities of lower courts. 00:08:14.42\00:08:17.29 And it was known for its, well, severe punishments. 00:08:17.29\00:08:20.96 The Star Chamber was a place 00:08:20.96\00:08:22.46 where powerful and influential people 00:08:22.46\00:08:24.40 could just bypass the lower courts 00:08:24.40\00:08:26.40 and have their cases heard in a place, 00:08:26.40\00:08:29.27 well, more suited to their station in life. 00:08:29.27\00:08:32.11 But above all that, the purpose of the Star Chamber 00:08:33.51\00:08:35.98 was really to protect the interests of the king. 00:08:35.98\00:08:39.31 So it became infamous for its biased judgements, 00:08:39.31\00:08:43.55 always, always in favor of the King. 00:08:43.55\00:08:46.55 And it became famous 00:08:46.55\00:08:47.72 for legally prohibiting written materials 00:08:47.72\00:08:49.92 that criticized the royal family. 00:08:49.92\00:08:52.26 In 1637, the British Parliament abolished that Star Chamber, 00:08:53.66\00:08:57.80 but then in 1643, 00:08:57.80\00:08:59.30 they passed the Ordinance for the Regulation of Printing, 00:08:59.30\00:09:02.50 which gave the British legislature 00:09:02.50\00:09:04.41 the same powers as the Star Chamber. 00:09:04.41\00:09:07.78 And it was at that point John Milton nearly lost his mind, 00:09:07.78\00:09:11.28 the guy who wrote "Paradise Lost." 00:09:11.28\00:09:13.78 On November 23rd, 1644, 00:09:13.78\00:09:15.98 he published the "Areopagitica," 00:09:15.98\00:09:18.19 which is probably the most important defense 00:09:18.19\00:09:21.12 of freedom of speech that has ever been written. 00:09:21.12\00:09:24.49 You see, for John Milton, 00:09:24.49\00:09:26.70 it was a deeply personal issue, 00:09:26.70\00:09:28.66 because he had been the victim of censorship. 00:09:28.66\00:09:31.67 His own works were prohibited 00:09:31.67\00:09:33.30 for what was deemed to be unacceptable religious content. 00:09:33.30\00:09:37.61 In 1643, he wrote an essay defending the practice of 00:09:37.61\00:09:42.61 divorce only under certain circumstances, 00:09:43.75\00:09:45.18 which nearly drove the Puritans out of their minds. 00:09:45.18\00:09:48.28 The Puritans argued. 00:09:48.28\00:09:49.85 They held all the power in those days. 00:09:49.85\00:09:51.89 They argued that Milton's work 00:09:51.89\00:09:53.52 would lead to a decline in morality if people read it. 00:09:53.52\00:09:56.99 They wanted it gone. 00:09:56.99\00:09:59.16 So when Parliament gave itself the power 00:09:59.16\00:10:01.33 to censor printed material, 00:10:01.33\00:10:03.23 insisting that books had to be licensed by the government, 00:10:03.23\00:10:07.00 Milton was upset. 00:10:07.00\00:10:08.40 And what he said back in 1644 is a big part 00:10:08.40\00:10:11.97 of why you and I are free to read whatever we want. 00:10:11.97\00:10:15.38 I'll be right back after this 00:10:15.38\00:10:16.88 to tell you why I think it's time for Christians, 00:10:16.88\00:10:19.21 or, for that matter, everybody here in the West 00:10:19.21\00:10:21.68 to have another look at Milton's arguments 00:10:21.68\00:10:23.82 before we head down a road 00:10:23.82\00:10:26.05 I don't think we want to travel. 00:10:26.05\00:10:27.79 - [Narrator] Life can throw a lot at us. 00:10:31.59\00:10:34.00 Sometimes we don't have all the answers. 00:10:34.00\00:10:37.37 But that's where the Bible comes in. 00:10:37.37\00:10:39.80 It's our guide to a more fulfilling life. 00:10:39.80\00:10:42.04 Here at The Voice of Prophecy, 00:10:42.94\00:10:44.44 we've created the Discover Bible Guides 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"and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified. 00:11:21.78\00:11:24.45 "And many who had believed came confessing 00:11:24.45\00:11:26.68 "and telling their deeds. 00:11:26.68\00:11:28.22 "Also, many of those who had practiced magic 00:11:28.22\00:11:31.02 "brought their books together 00:11:31.02\00:11:32.25 "and burned them in the sight of all. 00:11:32.25\00:11:34.09 "And they counted up the value of them, 00:11:34.09\00:11:35.76 "and it was totaled 50,000 pieces of silver." 00:11:35.76\00:11:40.10 Now, a lot of scholars think these pieces of silver 00:11:40.10\00:11:42.30 were probably Greek drachmas, 00:11:42.30\00:11:43.93 and a drachma was about a day's wage. 00:11:43.93\00:11:46.43 So take what you earn in a day, multiply it by 50,000, 00:11:46.43\00:11:49.80 and you get some idea of the magnitude of this event. 00:11:49.80\00:11:53.68 So, is there a book burning in the Bible? 00:11:53.68\00:11:55.24 Yeah, there is. 00:11:55.24\00:11:56.91 But what makes it different from the Star Chamber 00:11:56.91\00:11:59.38 is the fact that it was a voluntary book burning 00:11:59.38\00:12:02.25 and nobody forced these people to do it. 00:12:02.25\00:12:05.32 Milton pointed that out because, apparently back in his day, 00:12:05.32\00:12:08.66 some people were using the story 00:12:08.66\00:12:10.39 to justify state censorship. 00:12:10.39\00:12:12.89 Here's just a little bit of how Milton debunked it. 00:12:12.89\00:12:16.23 He writes, 00:12:16.23\00:12:17.60 "As for the burning of those Ephesian books 00:12:17.60\00:12:19.90 "by St. Paul's converts, 00:12:19.90\00:12:21.54 "'tis replied the books were magic, 00:12:21.54\00:12:23.14 "the Syriac so renders them. 00:12:23.14\00:12:25.44 "It was a private act, a voluntary act, 00:12:25.44\00:12:27.41 "and leaves us to a voluntary imitation: 00:12:27.41\00:12:30.28 "the men in remorse burnt those books which were their own; 00:12:30.28\00:12:33.35 "the Magistrate by this example is not appointed." 00:12:33.35\00:12:36.92 If this was a two-hour show, 00:12:37.79\00:12:39.25 I'd be tempted to just sit here and read you the whole book, 00:12:39.25\00:12:41.62 because Milton's works are that important. 00:12:41.62\00:12:45.16 And it's probably time for most of us to read them again, 00:12:45.16\00:12:47.86 because it feels like some of the liberties 00:12:47.86\00:12:50.23 recognized by the Constitution here 00:12:50.23\00:12:53.20 with regard to free speech are coming under fire. 00:12:53.20\00:12:56.97 Now, it's true, 00:12:56.97\00:12:58.27 we don't have a lot of government censorship, 00:12:58.27\00:12:59.74 at least not yet. 00:12:59.74\00:13:01.28 But there does appear to be a growing sentiment 00:13:01.28\00:13:03.88 that some forms of speech, 00:13:03.88\00:13:05.31 some opinions, are just too dangerous 00:13:05.31\00:13:07.38 and they should be banned. 00:13:07.38\00:13:10.12 Now, truth be told, as much as I don't like it, 00:13:10.12\00:13:12.79 I do support the right of social media companies 00:13:12.79\00:13:15.29 to silence people they don't like. 00:13:15.29\00:13:16.83 Why? 00:13:16.83\00:13:17.96 Well, they're privately owned platforms, 00:13:17.96\00:13:20.23 and the owners should be free 00:13:20.23\00:13:22.16 to do with those platforms whatever they want. 00:13:22.16\00:13:24.73 Just like I shouldn't be forced to give airtime 00:13:24.73\00:13:26.97 to things I don't agree with on this show, 00:13:26.97\00:13:29.34 Facebook and Twitter shouldn't be forced by law 00:13:29.34\00:13:31.51 to give airtime to anybody. 00:13:31.51\00:13:33.54 Now, I do recognize there's a growing sentiment 00:13:33.54\00:13:35.94 that social media has gotten so big 00:13:35.94\00:13:37.78 and they have such a huge monopoly 00:13:37.78\00:13:39.88 that they basically serve like public utilities. 00:13:39.88\00:13:43.25 That would make 'em a little like the phone company, 00:13:43.25\00:13:45.42 which doesn't have the right to censor a private discussion. 00:13:45.42\00:13:48.42 So I'll wait to see how it plays out in court;. 00:13:48.42\00:13:51.19 And who knows, 00:13:51.19\00:13:52.19 brighter legal minds than mine 00:13:52.19\00:13:54.30 might just prove that the First Amendment 00:13:54.30\00:13:55.80 really does have something to say 00:13:55.80\00:13:57.27 about private companies and censorship. 00:13:57.27\00:14:00.17 But what I'm really worried about 00:14:00.17\00:14:02.07 is what appears to be a growing disenchantment 00:14:02.07\00:14:04.54 with the entire notion of free speech 00:14:04.54\00:14:06.64 and the right of every individual to believe what they 00:14:06.64\00:14:09.48 want and to say what they want, 00:14:09.48\00:14:11.41 the freedom to live by the dictates of your own conscience, 00:14:11.41\00:14:14.38 the ability to preach your conscience. 00:14:14.38\00:14:16.92 Well, as a minister, I've got to tell you, 00:14:16.92\00:14:18.65 I am not keen to lose that God-given right. 00:14:18.65\00:14:22.39 Over the century, 00:14:22.39\00:14:23.83 an awful lot of people have paid a very high price 00:14:23.83\00:14:27.13 to be sure that you and I have the ability 00:14:27.13\00:14:29.03 to talk openly and not fear persecution. 00:14:29.03\00:14:32.13 And once that right is gone, 00:14:32.13\00:14:34.47 it's probably gonna be gone for a really long time. 00:14:34.47\00:14:37.64 So what I want to do with the time that you and I have today 00:14:39.11\00:14:41.48 is maybe highlight some of Milton's best arguments, 00:14:41.48\00:14:44.51 and hopefully it'll whet your appetite 00:14:44.51\00:14:46.85 to go and get yourself a copy of his work 00:14:46.85\00:14:49.02 or, for that matter, the works of other English dissenters, 00:14:49.02\00:14:52.19 like John Bunyan or John Locke, 00:14:52.19\00:14:55.49 these great minds whose ideas about liberty 00:14:55.49\00:14:58.43 helped give birth to the American Constitution. 00:14:58.43\00:15:01.53 One of the most important things that Milton did 00:15:02.93\00:15:04.63 while appealing to the Christians 00:15:04.63\00:15:06.03 who were in control of England 00:15:06.03\00:15:07.77 was to point out that Christians 00:15:07.77\00:15:09.17 have never been afraid of conflicting ideas. 00:15:09.17\00:15:12.51 The early church actually flourished 00:15:12.51\00:15:14.31 because they were persecuted and vigorously opposed, 00:15:14.31\00:15:17.78 and that persecution forced them 00:15:17.78\00:15:19.38 to examine their own ideas very, very carefully. 00:15:19.38\00:15:22.72 As a result, there is no record of Christian censorship 00:15:22.72\00:15:26.09 in the earliest days of the church, 00:15:26.09\00:15:28.39 and Milton argued that the Inquisition, 00:15:28.39\00:15:30.59 with its list of banned books, 00:15:30.59\00:15:32.66 was running contrary to the way the church was established. 00:15:32.66\00:15:36.70 It was when the Roman emperors 00:15:36.70\00:15:38.53 started to profess Christianity 00:15:38.53\00:15:40.17 and we blended church and state 00:15:40.17\00:15:42.37 that we started to practice official church censorship 00:15:42.37\00:15:45.57 backed by the state. 00:15:45.57\00:15:48.11 At a church council in Carthage, 00:15:48.11\00:15:50.01 Milton reminds us, nearly 400 years after Christ, 00:15:50.01\00:15:53.98 bishops were forbidden to read the works of Gentiles. 00:15:53.98\00:15:57.39 But they were still allowed to read the works 00:15:57.39\00:15:59.49 of so-called heretics, 00:15:59.49\00:16:01.06 so they knew how to deal with these people. 00:16:01.06\00:16:03.59 At that point, 00:16:03.59\00:16:05.03 the bishops started to recommend books to believers 00:16:05.03\00:16:08.13 and warn them to stay clear of falsehood. 00:16:08.13\00:16:10.70 But still, there was no official censorship. 00:16:10.70\00:16:13.60 Then, more than 800 years after Christ, 00:16:13.60\00:16:15.80 the Popes who felt that their authority 00:16:15.80\00:16:17.61 was being threatened by upstart authors 00:16:17.61\00:16:20.54 started to prohibit specific works. 00:16:20.54\00:16:23.21 And then when the likes of Wycliffe and Hus 00:16:23.21\00:16:25.65 started showing up in the 13th and 14th century, 00:16:25.65\00:16:29.45 that's when we got full-fledged book burnings, 00:16:29.45\00:16:32.32 and even the burning of heretics. 00:16:32.32\00:16:35.09 Milton's argument kind of went like this. 00:16:36.36\00:16:38.19 He said, "Listen, you don't wanna be like those people. 00:16:38.19\00:16:41.00 "After everything that we've gone through to win freedom, 00:16:41.00\00:16:43.67 "You don't want to be an inquisition." 00:16:43.67\00:16:46.50 Then he goes on to point out 00:16:46.50\00:16:47.74 that Moses went to school in Egypt, 00:16:47.74\00:16:49.67 Daniel went to school in Babylon, 00:16:49.67\00:16:51.84 Paul was clearly conversant 00:16:51.84\00:16:53.48 in the teachings of Greek philosophy. 00:16:53.48\00:16:55.88 In other words, 00:16:55.88\00:16:57.31 great Christians have never been afraid of ideas, 00:16:57.31\00:16:58.75 because either what we believe is true or it isn't. 00:16:58.75\00:17:02.02 And if the Bible is true, it'll survive scrutiny. 00:17:02.02\00:17:06.05 Not long after the reign of Constantine, 00:17:06.05\00:17:08.56 the Roman emperor who professed Christianity, 00:17:08.56\00:17:11.69 there was another emperor by the name of Julian, 00:17:11.69\00:17:14.36 who was horrified by the way that Romans 00:17:14.36\00:17:16.30 were abandoning their old Pagan ways. 00:17:16.30\00:17:18.80 Today we call him Julian the Apostate, 00:17:18.80\00:17:20.97 because he rejected Constantine's Christianity 00:17:20.97\00:17:23.97 and launched a massive campaign to restore Roman paganism. 00:17:23.97\00:17:27.88 And at one point, he actually passed a law 00:17:27.88\00:17:30.28 forbidding Christians to read pagan books, 00:17:30.28\00:17:32.68 because, as he put it, 00:17:32.68\00:17:34.12 "They wound us with our own weapons, 00:17:34.12\00:17:36.42 "and with our own arts and sciences, they overcome us." 00:17:36.42\00:17:39.82 In other words, early Christians were reading the pagans, 00:17:39.82\00:17:43.19 and they understood them better than the Pagans did. 00:17:43.19\00:17:46.59 Then, from that point forward, 00:17:46.59\00:17:48.33 Milton goes on to give any number of really good examples 00:17:48.33\00:17:51.77 of early Christians who read the lies 00:17:51.77\00:17:54.24 their opponents were publishing, 00:17:54.24\00:17:55.67 and then turned those lies 00:17:55.67\00:17:57.14 into powerful arguments for the gospel, 00:17:57.14\00:17:59.61 not the least of which was the great John Chrysostom, 00:17:59.61\00:18:03.01 known to be the greatest preacher of his day. 00:18:03.01\00:18:06.35 It seems there were two key arguments 00:18:07.52\00:18:08.98 the British Parliament made for licensing 00:18:08.98\00:18:11.12 and censoring the publishing industry, 00:18:11.12\00:18:13.72 at least if I'm reading this correctly. 00:18:13.72\00:18:16.26 One of their arguments was the idea 00:18:16.26\00:18:17.86 that by preventing a book from getting published, 00:18:17.86\00:18:20.23 you could stop the spread of infection. 00:18:20.23\00:18:22.03 You could stop a bad idea 00:18:22.03\00:18:23.70 from worming its way into the public. 00:18:23.70\00:18:26.27 The other argument the parliament made 00:18:26.27\00:18:27.94 was that by disallowing certain authors to be printed, 00:18:27.94\00:18:30.74 you could reduce the number 00:18:30.74\00:18:32.21 of mental temptations experienced by Christians. 00:18:32.21\00:18:36.11 And oddly enough, when it comes to the arguments people give 00:18:36.11\00:18:38.55 for wanting to censor online discussions, 00:18:38.55\00:18:40.92 I hear the same kind of reasoning: 00:18:40.92\00:18:42.92 "By silencing people we disagree with, 00:18:42.92\00:18:45.22 "we can stop bad ideas." 00:18:45.22\00:18:47.46 And I'll be right back in a moment 00:18:47.46\00:18:49.06 to tell you why that kind of logic is really misguided. 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00:20:17.08\00:20:18.88 all you really do is take a highlighter 00:20:18.88\00:20:20.58 and make them more prominent. 00:20:20.58\00:20:22.72 When I was a little kid, 00:20:22.72\00:20:24.22 we had this itty-bitty library in my elementary school. 00:20:24.22\00:20:27.22 And the librarian, she took it upon herself 00:20:28.39\00:20:30.46 to go through every single book, 00:20:30.46\00:20:32.93 and she redacted all of the objectionable passages. 00:20:32.93\00:20:36.33 She crossed out every four-letter word. 00:20:36.33\00:20:39.80 And honestly, I understand what she was trying to do. 00:20:39.80\00:20:42.70 She was trying to prevent us 00:20:42.70\00:20:44.24 from losing our childlike innocence. 00:20:44.24\00:20:46.98 But what she really accomplished 00:20:46.98\00:20:48.64 was to make us more curious, 00:20:48.64\00:20:50.11 because now all we did was hold the books 00:20:50.11\00:20:52.35 up to a bright light 00:20:52.35\00:20:53.38 to see if we could figure out 00:20:53.38\00:20:54.62 what it was that we weren't allowed to see. 00:20:54.62\00:20:57.32 And that's pretty much what happens 00:20:58.55\00:21:00.29 when you attempt to censor your neighbor. 00:21:00.29\00:21:03.29 You might be afraid that their bad ideas 00:21:03.29\00:21:05.29 are gonna circulate. 00:21:05.29\00:21:06.80 But by banning them, you're just guaranteeing 00:21:06.80\00:21:09.66 that more people are going to pay attention. 00:21:09.66\00:21:12.40 I like the way that the great teacher Gamaliel puts it 00:21:12.40\00:21:15.30 in the book of Acts 5. 00:21:15.30\00:21:17.54 When the leaders of Jerusalem wanted to kill the Christians 00:21:17.54\00:21:20.68 for what they were teaching, 00:21:20.68\00:21:22.21 Gamaliel put the brakes on their plan by saying this. 00:21:22.21\00:21:25.91 It says, "And he said to them: 00:21:25.91\00:21:28.32 "Men of Israel, take heed to yourselves 00:21:28.32\00:21:30.75 "what you intend to do regarding these men. 00:21:30.75\00:21:33.32 "For some time ago Theudas rose up, claiming to be somebody. 00:21:33.32\00:21:37.46 "A number of men, about 400, joined him. 00:21:37.46\00:21:39.89 "He was slain, and all who obeyed him were scattered 00:21:39.89\00:21:43.03 "and came to nothing. 00:21:43.03\00:21:44.87 "After this man, 00:21:44.87\00:21:46.43 "Judas of Galilee rose up in the days of the census, 00:21:46.43\00:21:48.34 "and drew away many people after him. 00:21:48.34\00:21:50.47 "He also perished, and all who obeyed him were dispersed. 00:21:50.47\00:21:54.38 "And now I say to you, 00:21:54.38\00:21:55.84 "keep away from these men and let them alone; 00:21:55.84\00:21:58.28 "for if this plan or this work is of men, 00:21:58.28\00:22:00.62 "it will come to nothing; 00:22:00.62\00:22:02.58 "but if it is of God, you cannot overthrow it, 00:22:02.58\00:22:06.05 "lest you even be found to fight against God." 00:22:06.05\00:22:10.13 So, what exactly is he saying? 00:22:10.13\00:22:12.16 He's telling us that if something is heresy 00:22:12.16\00:22:14.36 and it doesn't come from God, 00:22:14.36\00:22:16.16 then it's not gonna prosper, 00:22:16.16\00:22:17.63 not in the long run. 00:22:17.63\00:22:19.60 And the same thing is true in the broader world of ideas. 00:22:19.60\00:22:23.10 If something is a lie, 00:22:23.10\00:22:24.57 it might get a little traction for a little while, 00:22:24.57\00:22:27.54 say like a nutty conspiracy theory. 00:22:27.54\00:22:30.31 But in the end, the truth has a way of coming out. 00:22:30.31\00:22:34.35 Now, this is where John Milton suddenly ventures 00:22:34.35\00:22:36.52 into very interesting territory. 00:22:36.52\00:22:39.02 What he basically argues is that, 00:22:39.02\00:22:41.32 yes, Christianity is fragmented 00:22:41.32\00:22:43.59 and we have a way of disagreeing with each other. 00:22:43.59\00:22:46.83 But what he believed would happen is that, in the long run, 00:22:46.83\00:22:49.33 if people had real freedom, 00:22:49.33\00:22:51.47 the various fragments of the Christian Church 00:22:51.47\00:22:53.64 would openly debate their ideas 00:22:53.64\00:22:56.77 and start getting closer to the truth. 00:22:56.77\00:22:59.31 The Protestant Reformation, he said, was just the beginning. 00:22:59.31\00:23:02.98 And it was God's intention 00:23:02.98\00:23:04.41 that His people would move closer and closer to the truth, 00:23:04.41\00:23:08.42 restoring the things that had been tragically lost 00:23:08.42\00:23:11.15 when the church was plunged into the Dark Ages. 00:23:11.15\00:23:14.69 In other words, if all the opinions of Christianity 00:23:14.69\00:23:18.06 were allowed to interact with each other, 00:23:18.06\00:23:19.86 the truth would eventually rise to the surface, 00:23:19.86\00:23:22.93 a truth that Milton called "new light." 00:23:22.93\00:23:26.40 "If we forbid the publication 00:23:26.40\00:23:28.17 "of certain opinions," he argued, 00:23:28.17\00:23:30.24 "then we're actually gonna stop 00:23:30.24\00:23:32.57 the work of the Reformation." 00:23:32.57\00:23:34.81 He writes this, 00:23:34.81\00:23:36.88 "And though the winds of doctrine 00:23:36.88\00:23:38.38 "were let loose to play upon the earth, 00:23:38.38\00:23:40.82 "so truth be in the field, 00:23:40.82\00:23:42.92 "we do injuriously by licensing and prohibiting 00:23:42.92\00:23:46.09 "to misdoubt her strength. 00:23:46.09\00:23:48.12 "Let her and falsehood grapple; 00:23:48.12\00:23:50.63 "who ever knew truth put to the worst 00:23:50.63\00:23:52.79 "in a free and open encounter?" 00:23:52.79\00:23:55.73 Now, what I personally find interesting 00:23:55.73\00:23:57.73 is the way that important preachers in the new world, 00:23:57.73\00:24:00.27 people like Jonathan Edwards, strongly suspected 00:24:00.27\00:24:04.81 that Milton was right. 00:24:04.81\00:24:06.57 Before Christ returns, 00:24:06.57\00:24:08.08 they said God is going to restore His church completely 00:24:08.08\00:24:11.08 and undo all the damage we did when we compromised. 00:24:11.08\00:24:15.88 Just like the old world had given birth to Jesus, 00:24:15.88\00:24:18.89 Jonathan Edwards said, 00:24:18.89\00:24:20.12 the new world would give birth to a final, 00:24:20.12\00:24:22.76 glorious manifestation of God's church on earth. 00:24:22.76\00:24:26.70 Here's what he actually wrote. 00:24:26.70\00:24:28.20 He said "America was discovered 00:24:28.20\00:24:30.40 "about the time of the reformation, or but little 00:24:30.40\00:24:34.14 before: "which reformation was the first thing that God did 00:24:34.14\00:24:36.84 "towards the glorious renovation of the world. 00:24:36.84\00:24:39.91 "So that, as soon as this new world stands forth in view, 00:24:39.91\00:24:43.35 "God presently goes about doing some great thing 00:24:43.35\00:24:46.25 "in order to make way 00:24:46.25\00:24:47.75 "for the introduction of the church's latter-day glory, 00:24:47.75\00:24:51.32 "which is to have its first seat in, 00:24:51.32\00:24:53.76 "and is to take its rise from, that new world." 00:24:53.76\00:24:57.79 Now, where would 17th and 18th century Christians 00:24:57.79\00:25:00.93 get ideas like that? 00:25:00.93\00:25:02.50 Well, they got them 00:25:02.50\00:25:03.67 straight from the pages of Bible prophecy, 00:25:03.67\00:25:05.87 which paints a picture of complete unity 00:25:05.87\00:25:08.27 over in Revelation 14. 00:25:08.27\00:25:10.61 And I'll be right back after this break 00:25:10.61\00:25:12.91 to show you exactly what I'm talking about. 00:25:12.91\00:25:15.08 - [Narrator] Here at The Voice of Prophecy, 00:25:18.78\00:25:20.25 we're committed to creating top-quality programming 00:25:20.25\00:25:22.75 for the whole family. 00:25:22.75\00:25:24.19 Like our audio adventure series, "Discovery Mountain." 00:25:24.19\00:25:27.29 "Discovery Mountain" is a Bible-based program 00:25:27.29\00:25:29.86 for kids of all ages and backgrounds. 00:25:29.86\00:25:32.19 Your family will enjoy the faith-building stories 00:25:32.19\00:25:34.93 from this 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00:26:13.00\00:26:15.47 But what I want you to notice 00:26:15.47\00:26:16.77 is that before the story is finished, 00:26:16.77\00:26:18.87 there is only one church. 00:26:18.87\00:26:21.24 And if that's gonna happen, 00:26:21.24\00:26:22.84 we have to preserve the freedom to think, 00:26:22.84\00:26:25.15 the freedom to speak, 00:26:25.15\00:26:26.58 and the freedom to discuss what the Bible says. 00:26:26.58\00:26:29.68 That was the burden that John Milton had 00:26:29.68\00:26:31.92 when he took on the British Parliament, 00:26:31.92\00:26:33.82 and it needs to be our burden to this day. 00:26:33.82\00:26:36.89 Look, I know for the time being, 00:26:36.89\00:26:38.53 we're still relatively free, 00:26:38.53\00:26:40.10 so a lot of people don't worry about this. 00:26:40.10\00:26:42.50 But as I'm watching the horizon, 00:26:42.50\00:26:43.93 I see this disturbing trend 00:26:43.93\00:26:45.30 towards coercing uniformity of thought. 00:26:45.30\00:26:48.74 In my former home of Canada, 00:26:48.74\00:26:50.37 the government is already positioning itself 00:26:50.37\00:26:52.47 to censor websites like Facebook and YouTube. 00:26:52.47\00:26:55.44 And the way things are going, 00:26:55.44\00:26:56.64 I don't think we're too far behind. 00:26:56.64\00:26:59.28 I know that preserving freedom 00:26:59.28\00:27:00.82 means that we all have to live with other people's right 00:27:00.82\00:27:03.18 to say stupid or even hurtful things. 00:27:03.18\00:27:05.25 But that's just part of the package. 00:27:05.25\00:27:07.96 And I know it means that people with bad ideas 00:27:07.96\00:27:10.19 get to release those ideas out into the wild. 00:27:10.19\00:27:13.46 But not once in human history 00:27:13.46\00:27:14.96 has state censorship ever produced a good result, 00:27:14.96\00:27:17.40 not even once. 00:27:17.40\00:27:19.07 And I guess I want to urge you, 00:27:19.07\00:27:20.57 whatever your religious or ideological background, 00:27:20.57\00:27:22.87 please fight to keep liberty intact. 00:27:22.87\00:27:26.81 Because if you get in the business of banning other 00:27:26.81\00:27:30.61 people, it's only a matter of time until somebody bans you. 00:27:30.61\00:27:34.35 It's a dangerous game, 00:27:34.35\00:27:36.08 and it's a game I don't think you really want to play. 00:27:36.08\00:27:39.49 And for Christians who want to regulate their own minds, 00:27:39.49\00:27:43.02 which is something I can get on board with, 00:27:43.02\00:27:45.43 it has to be voluntary. 00:27:45.43\00:27:47.66 And I'm with Paul who says, 00:27:47.66\00:27:48.90 "Test all things; hold fast to what is good." 00:27:48.90\00:27:53.37 Thanks for joining me. 00:27:53.37\00:27:54.34 I'm Shawn Boonstra, 00:27:54.34\00:27:55.70 and you have been freely watching "Authentic." 00:27:55.70\00:27:59.21 [upbeat guitar music] 00:27:59.21\00:28:02.38