Well hello,
welcome to the last session
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of Anchor Bible school.
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It's good to see you
all nice and dressed up.
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And we have an exciting study
in the next several minutes.
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But we want to have a
word of prayer to ask for
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God's guidance, first of all.
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And so let's just bow our
heads for a word of prayer.
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Father in heaven, we
thank You for the privilege of
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being here this afternoon.
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We thank You because we are
able to study this magnificent
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prophecy of Daniel 11:40-45.
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We ask for the
guidance of Your Holy Spirit
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that You might give
us understanding of this
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complex passage.
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And we thank You
for hearing our prayer.
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We ask it in Jesus' name, amen.
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Now basically we're
discussing how we can discover
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Ellen White's comments
on any given text or passage
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without her quoting it or
even alluding to the language.
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Daniel 11 is a good
example of how to do it.
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So we're going to follow
the material that you have
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before you, line by
line, precept by precept,
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here a little, there a little.
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And hopefully we'll be
able to cover it within the
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time constraints that we have.
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There is a passage
in the book of Daniel
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which has always been a
subject of lively discussion
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among Seventh-day
Adventist theologians.
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And that passage
is Daniel 11:40-45.
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Until recently, most of
the Adventist scholars agreed
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that the king of the
north represents the papacy
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and the king of
the south represents
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atheism or secularism.
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But now a new view has
appeared on the horizon
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that sees radical Islam
as playing a significant role
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in the fulfillment of
this specific prophecy.
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Those who have embraced
this view have concluded
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that the events of 9/11
and the war against Al Qaeda
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are so significant that
they must be contemplated
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somewhere in Bible prophecy.
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This has sparked a new
interest in the study of the
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fifth and sixth
trumpets in conjunction with
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Daniel 11 verses 40 to 45.
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Now usually Ellen
White has provided invaluable
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guidance in the interpretation
of difficult prophetic passages.
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But unlike other
passages in the book of Daniel,
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Ellen White seems to be
silent on these specific verses.
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Especially verses 40 to 45.
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Nowhere to my knowledge does
she ever quote verses 40 to 45,
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nor does she echo the
terminology that is used
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in these verses.
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This seeming silence
has provided individuals
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with the idea that
Ellen White had nothing to say
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about these specific verses.
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We therefore ask, did
Ellen White have anything to say
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about the meaning of these
verses, or does her apparent
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silence indicate that their
meaning would remain a mystery
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until long after her death?
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In this article, or this
study, we will seek to answer
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this question.
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Now let's discuss, first of all,
Ellen White's use of Daniel 11.
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To my knowledge, there are only
three primary Ellen G. White
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reference to Daniel 11,
except for one that is found
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in the little booklet,
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A Word to the Little
Flock Scattered Abroad,
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to which I'm going to make
reference later in this study.
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One of these three
primary references is general
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in nature and indirect.
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Excuse me, one is indirect.
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The other is general.
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And the other is quite specific.
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Only in the specific
reference, once in her writings,
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does Ellen White actually quote
any verses from the chapter.
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And those verses that she
quotes are verses 30 to 36.
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Unfortunately, as stated
before, she never quotes,
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nor does she even
allude to the language,
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of verses 40 to 45.
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So it would seem well
nigh impossible to discover
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how Ellen White
understood these verses.
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Now let's take a look at
these three specific quotations.
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As I mentioned, one
of them is indirect,
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another one is very general,
and the third is more specific.
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And she actually
quotes verses in that one.
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The first quotation is
indirect, because she does not
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specifically mention Daniel
11 but only alludes to it.
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And I'm going to show
you in what sense she alludes
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to Daniel 11 without
actually mentioning Daniel 11.
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In 1896, Ellen White
wrote the following words,
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"The light that Daniel received
from God was given especially
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for these last days.
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The visions he saw by
the banks of the Ulai..."
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And I put in brackets
there, Daniel 8 verse 2.
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In other words, Daniel 8
was given next to the Ulai.
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"...and the Hiddekel..."
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The vision that was given by the
Hiddekel was Daniel 10 verse 4
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and chapter 11.
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"...the great rivers of
Shinar, are now in process
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of fulfillment, and all
the events foretold will soon
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come to pass."
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Now the second
quotation is found in,
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Testimonies volume 9,
and it was written in 1909.
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And if you're
going to the next page,
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we find the quotation there.
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Here, Ellen White
states, "The world is stirred
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with the spirit of war.
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The prophecy of the
eleventh chapter of Daniel
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has nearly reached
its complete fulfillment.
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Soon the scenes of
trouble spoken of in the
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prophecies will take place."
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So in 1896, she wrote that
the visions that Daniel received
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by the Ulai, that's
Daniel 8, and the Hiddekel,
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Daniel 10 through chapter
11, the great rivers of Shinar,
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were in the
process of fulfillment.
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And she says the events
would soon come to pass.
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And in the second statements,
she actually mentions
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the 11th of Daniel, but
she doesn't quote any verses.
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And she says that
it has nearly reached
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its complete fulfillment.
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Now there's another quotation.
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And this one
was written in 1904.
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It is the only quotation where
Ellen White actually quotes
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verses from Daniel 11.
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As I mentioned before,
she quotes verses 30-36.
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And now I read that
specific statement found in,
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Manuscript
Releases, volume 13, page 394.
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She says, "We
have no time to lose.
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Troublous times are before us.
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The world is stirred
with the spirit of war.
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Soon the scenes of
trouble spoken of in the
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prophecies will take place.
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The prophecy in the
eleventh of Daniel has nearly
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reached its
complete fulfillment."
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And then she says
this, "Much of the history
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that has taken place in
fulfillment of this prophecy
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will be repeated.
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In the thirtieth
verse a power is spoken of
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that 'shall be grieved, and
return, and have indignation
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against the holy
covenant: so shall he do;
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he shall even
return, and have intelligence
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with them that
forsake the holy covenant.'"
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And then she
quotes verses 31 to 36.
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And she ends by saying,
"Scenes similar to those
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described in these
words will take place."
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Those are the only three
quotations from the writings
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of Ellen White where she
either alludes to Daniel 11,
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refers in general
terms to Daniel 11,
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and actually quotes
verses from Daniel 11.
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Now we need to
analyze these statements
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to find out what we
can glean from them,
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what information is valuable
in determining her concept
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of Daniel 11.
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Now let's examine, first
of all, the quotation from,
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Testimonies to Ministers,
page 112, the first one
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that was written in 1896.
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This statement has two
key items of information.
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First, the
prophecies of Daniel 8 and 11
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run concurrently
and are parallel.
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Is that point clear?
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The prophecy by the Ulai
was the one given in chapter 8.
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And the one by the
Hiddekel was the one given
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in chapters 10 and 11.
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And so basically, by
saying that these prophecies
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are in the
process of fulfillment,
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and soon what is
prophesied will take place,
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she's saying that Daniel 8
and Daniel 11 are parallel.
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And we already studied that
in one of our previous classes.
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Remember that you have
this book within the book.
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And it begins with
Persia in chapter 8,
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and then chapter 11
begins with Persia also.
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And they work their way through.
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So what I want us to
notice then is the prophecies of
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Daniel 8 and 11, or
10 and 11, are parallel.
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The second point that we
need to take into account
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is that both of these prophecies
were in the process of
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fulfillment when
Ellen White wrote in 1896.
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Unfortunately, in
this statement, Ellen White
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does not specify how much
of the chapter had already
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been fulfilled when
she wrote the statement.
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Correct?
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She simply says that
Daniel 8 and Daniel 11
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were in the
process of fulfillment.
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But she doesn't say
where the fulfillment was.
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The beginning of the chapter,
the middle of the chapter,
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or the end of the chapter.
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She merely stated that
these prophecies were in the
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process of fulfillment.
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So we would be interested in
knowing where the process was.
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Now the quotation in,
Testimonies for the Church,
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volume 9, page 14, adds
some very valuable information.
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When Ellen White wrote
this testimony in 1909,
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she stated that the
prophecy of Daniel 11,
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this is the important
detail, had nearly reached
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its complete fulfillment.
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So do we know from
this statement where the
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prophecy was in its fulfillment?
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Yes, it was towards the what?
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Towards the end of Daniel 11.
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So the quotation in,
Testimonies for the Church,
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volume 9, page 14, adds
some very valuable information.
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When Ellen White wrote
this testimony in 1909,
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she stated that the
prophecy of Daniel 11 had nearly
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reached its
complete fulfillment.
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Thus, we can be certain that in
1909 the process of fulfillment
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of Daniel 11 was in the
last few verses of the chapter.
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Is that point clear?
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Now the third quotation, the
one from, Manuscript Releases,
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volume 13, and page
394, written in 1904,
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contains some
significant information
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that is not found in
the other two quotations.
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In this statement, Ellen
White explains that much of the
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history that had taken place
in fulfillment of this chapter
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will be repeated.
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The critical
question then is this,
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which history was she referring
to that would be repeated?
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Fortunately, we
don't have to guess.
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Because she immediately
quotes verses 30 to 36.
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Then right after
she quotes these verses,
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she again repeats the
thought that much of the history
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that has occurred in fulfillment
of these verses will be
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repeated, when she
says, "Scenes similar to those
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described in these
words will take place."
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Are you
understanding that point?
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Very, very important.
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In other words, she says,
"Much of the history that has
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fulfilled this
chapter will be repeated."
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Then what does she quote?
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Verses 30 to 36.
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And after quoting
verses 30 to 36, then she says,
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"Scenes similar to
those described in these words
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will take place."
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So which are the
events that already took place
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that were fulfilled?
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The events in verses 30 to 36.
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And in the future, we're going
to find that scenes similar
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to the ones in verses
30 to 36 will take place.
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Clearly, Ellen White
understood that verses 30 to 36,
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and I might say
also verses 37 to 39
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even though she
does not quote them,
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had already been fulfilled
in the past when she wrote.
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Is that clear?
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They had already been fulfilled.
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She says, you know, they'll
be scenes similar to these.
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Now if verses 30 to 39
had already been fulfilled
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in the past, then
the similar future scenes
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must be described where?
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In verses 40 to 45.
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Thus, verses 30 to 39
describe events in the past
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while verses 40 to 45
describe events in the future.
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Is that clear to you?
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Not real clear.
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Well let me go over it
again, because this is a
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very important point.
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Let's go again
to this paragraph.
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Ellen White
understood that verses 30 to 36,
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and also 37 to 39,
had already been fulfilled
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in the past when she wrote.
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Is that point clear?
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If verses 30 to 39 had already
been fulfilled in the past,
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then the similar scenes
that she said would be fulfilled
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in the future must
be verses 40 to 45.
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Because if 30 to 39
were fulfilled, and there's
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going to be future
scenes similar to those,
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then the only place you
can look is verses 40 to 45.
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Is that point clear?
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It is important to
realize that Ellen White,
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this is vitally important,
Ellen White is not saying
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that these verses
have a dual fulfillment.
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She's not saying
that verses 30 to 39
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are going to be fulfilled twice,
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once in the past
and one in the future.
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What she is saying is
that much of the history
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that fulfilled these
verses will be repeated.
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Stated another way, it is not
the prophecy in verses 30 to 39
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that will be
fulfilled once again, but rather
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much of the history
which fulfilled the prophecy
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in the past that will be
repeated in similar fashion
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in the future.
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Is it different to say that the
prophecy will be fulfilled twice
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than to say that much of the
history will be fulfilled twice?
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It's very, very different.
00:16:35.66\00:16:36.99
These verses don't
have a double fulfillment.
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It's just that they
were fulfilled in the past,
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and in the future there
are going to be scenes similar
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to the ones that were
already fulfilled in the past.
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Now let's notice,
let's pursue this.
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At this juncture in
our study, we must ask,
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why will the historical scenes
of the past repeat once again
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in similar fashion?
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The answer is not hard to find.
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The arrogant and persecuting
power that is described
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in verses 30 to 39 is
the Roman Catholic Papacy
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as it behaved during
the 1260 year career.
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During this period, it
joined church and state
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and used the sword of the
state to persecute dissenters.
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So in other
words, verses 30 to 39
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are speaking about
the career of the papacy
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during the 1260 years.
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As is well known, at
the end of the 1260 years
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the papacy
received the deadly wound
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when the state turned
against it at the conclusion
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of the French Revolution.
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But this was not the end of
the papacy's career, was it?
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Prophecy predicts that
after a period of convalescence
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the deadly wound will be healed
when the United States will
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return the sword of the civil
power into the papacy's hand.
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Then the papacy will behave
once more as it did in the past.
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Thus the history of
the past papal oppression
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will be repeated in the
future because the papacy
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will rise once again in power.
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Are you following me?
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Now in summary, Ellen White
believed that Daniel 11:30-36,
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and that
includes verses 30 to 39,
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was fulfilled in the past.
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Though she does not specifically
quote verses 37 to 39,
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when you study them
carefully, it's part of the
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career of the papacy.
00:18:37.58\00:18:39.28
She also believed
that much of the history
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described in these verses would
be repeated in similar fashion
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in the future.
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Now if verses 30 to 39
had already been fulfilled
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in the past in Ellen
White's day, then the future
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repetition of the
history of these verses
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must be found where?
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In verses 40 to 45.
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Notice the following
three quotations on the
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past and future
role of the papacy.
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Very interesting.
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"The influence of Rome
in the countries that once
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acknowledged her dominion
is far from being destroyed.
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And prophecy foretells a
restoration of her power.
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'I saw one of his heads
as it were wounded to death;
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and his deadly wound was healed:
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and all the world
wondered after the beast.'"
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So how many stages does
the career of the papacy have?
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Two.
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Verses 30 to 39; the past.
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Verses 40 to 45; the future.
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Not a repetition of prophecy,
but a repetition of history,
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because it's the
same power that is ruling.
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Now notice the second statement.
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By the way, that one
is, Great Controversy, 579.
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Notice the next statement.
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"When our nation,"
that is the United States,
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shall so abjure the
principles of its government
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as to enact a Sunday law,
Protestantism will in this act
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join hands with popery;
00:20:12.37\00:20:14.44
it will be nothing
else than..." Doing what?
00:20:14.84\00:20:18.01
"...than giving life..."
00:20:18.05\00:20:19.48
Which means that it
must have been dead, right?
00:20:19.51\00:20:21.55
"...to the tyranny which
has long been eagerly watching
00:20:21.58\00:20:25.59
its opportunity
to spring again..."
00:20:25.62\00:20:28.66
What does that
indicate, "spring again"?
00:20:28.69\00:20:30.69
It means that it
acted in the past, right?
00:20:30.89\00:20:33.09
"...to spring again
into active despotism."
00:20:33.19\00:20:38.17
That's,
Testimonies, volume 5, page 712.
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And here comes
the third quotation.
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"When the land which the
Lord provided as an asylum
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for His people, that
they might worship Him
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according to the dictates
of their own consciences,
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the land over which for long
years the shield of Omnipotence
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has been spread, the
land which God has favored
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by making it the depository
of the pure religion of Christ,
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when that land shall,
through its legislators,
00:21:04.56\00:21:07.86
abjure the
principles of Protestantism
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and give countenance to Romish
apostasy in tampering with
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God's law, it is then
that the final work of the
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man of sin will be revealed.
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Protestants will throw their
whole influence and strength
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on the side of the Papacy.
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By a national act
enforcing the false sabbath..."
00:21:24.98\00:21:28.55
Now notice the terminology here.
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"...they will give..." What?
00:21:30.59\00:21:32.29
"... life and vigor..."
00:21:32.32\00:21:35.09
So did this system have
life and vigor then before this?
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Only during the 1260 years.
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But it lost it, right?
00:21:41.63\00:21:43.03
So she continues saying,
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"...they will
give life and vigor,
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life and vigor...
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...reviving," notice the
word once gain, "reviving..."
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That means that she
was dead before, right?
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"...reviving her tyranny
and oppression of conscience.
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Then it will be time for
God to work in mighty power
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for the
vindication of His truth."
00:22:07.22\00:22:10.43
So are you clear
on this point so far?
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Daniel 11:30-39 is the
past career of the papacy
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during the 1260 years.
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Scenes similar to the
history that took place
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will be repeated in the future.
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Not the prophecy, but
scenes similar of the history
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of that period.
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So where would you expect
to find the similar scenes
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of history in the future?
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It would have to
be verses 40 to 45.
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Because if 30 to 49 is
past, 40 to 45 would be the only
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place where you could
look for the future scenes.
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Now the question is,
does Ellen White have anything
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to say about the events that are
described in verses 40 to 45?
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See, she already
described verses 30 to 36.
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She said that's past.
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That's how the
papacy acted in the past.
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But the big question is, does
Ellen White have anything to say
00:23:06.08\00:23:09.12
about verses 40 to 45, the
future repetition of history
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where the papacy will behave
as it behaved in the past?
00:23:14.12\00:23:17.29
Well let's notice this.
00:23:17.56\00:23:18.99
Where would we
even begin to look
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if she never quotes these verses
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or even alludes
to their terminology?
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I believe the key which
will unlock her understanding
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of these verses is
found in her understanding
00:23:31.21\00:23:34.24
of Daniel 12 verse 1.
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Though Ellen White never quoted
or even alluded to the language
00:23:36.41\00:23:40.22
of Daniel 11:40-45, in the
book, The Great Controversy,
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she did quote the very next
verse; Daniel 12 and verse 1.
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I believe that the place where
she quotes Daniel 12 verse 1
00:23:50.29\00:23:54.20
contains the key which
unlocks her understanding
00:23:54.23\00:23:57.53
of the
immediately preceding verses.
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Are you seeing the principle
that we talked about yesterday?
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So if she quotes
Daniel 12 verse 1,
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maybe if you work
backwards you'll know what she
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has to say about verses 40
to 45 of the previous chapter.
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In other words, you
don't work inductively.
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You work deductively.
00:24:15.98\00:24:17.35
You work like a detective.
00:24:17.39\00:24:20.09
You know, a detective
gathers clues after the crime.
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See, the criminal, he
went through a series of steps.
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So by deduction, you
have to work forwards
00:24:26.93\00:24:30.20
from after the crime backwards.
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Usually we work inductively.
00:24:32.40\00:24:34.50
But when you
study Daniel 12 verse 1,
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you have to work
deductively, because Ellen White
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doesn't have anything
to say, apparently, about
00:24:41.91\00:24:44.15
verses 40 to 45.
00:24:44.18\00:24:45.71
But she does quote 12 verse 1.
00:24:46.75\00:24:48.58
So instead of working
from verse 40 forwards,
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which we can't do because
she never uses the language of
00:24:51.69\00:24:54.32
verses 40 to 45, why not
start at Daniel 12 verse 1
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where she quotes that
in, Great Controversy,
00:24:58.29\00:25:00.70
and see what she has to
say before that specific verse.
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Because Ellen White did
not quote or even allude
00:25:06.07\00:25:09.04
to the
terminology of verses 40 to 45
00:25:09.07\00:25:11.71
in, The Great
Controversy, we cannot work from
00:25:11.74\00:25:14.61
verse 40 forwards
because we don't know where her
00:25:14.64\00:25:18.38
comments on verse 40 are found.
00:25:18.41\00:25:20.58
What we must do
then is work deductively
00:25:21.18\00:25:24.69
from Daniel 12:1-2 backwards.
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So let's take a look at
Daniel 12 verses 1 and 2.
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"At that time
Michael shall stand up..."
00:25:32.96\00:25:35.93
I have underlined
four phrases here.
00:25:35.96\00:25:38.77
"At that time
Michael shall stand up..."
00:25:39.10\00:25:41.60
That's phrase number one.
00:25:42.34\00:25:43.71
"...the great prince
who stands watch over the
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sons of your people; and there
shall be a time of trouble..."
00:25:46.44\00:25:50.15
That's the second phrase, "there
shall be a time of trouble."
00:25:50.18\00:25:52.68
"...such as never was
since there was a nation,
00:25:52.88\00:25:55.22
even to that time.
00:25:55.25\00:25:56.58
And at that time your
people shall be delivered..."
00:25:57.29\00:26:00.36
That's the third phrase, "your
people shall be delivered."
00:26:00.39\00:26:02.79
"...everyone who is
found written in the book.
00:26:02.82\00:26:05.09
And many of those who sleep
in the dust of the earth..."
00:26:05.43\00:26:07.66
Here's number four.
00:26:07.70\00:26:09.03
"...shall awake,
some to everlasting life,
00:26:09.06\00:26:11.77
some to shame and
everlasting contempt."
00:26:11.80\00:26:14.94
So let me ask you, are
those four events successive
00:26:15.74\00:26:20.34
one right after the other?
00:26:20.38\00:26:21.71
Of course they are.
00:26:22.14\00:26:23.48
First you have
Michael standing up,
00:26:23.58\00:26:25.31
then you have
the time of trouble,
00:26:25.35\00:26:26.78
then God's people are delivered,
00:26:26.98\00:26:28.52
and then you have
the special resurrection,
00:26:28.72\00:26:30.42
those who awake.
00:26:30.45\00:26:31.79
They are a sequence of events.
00:26:31.82\00:26:33.76
So the bold type indicates that
there are four sequential events
00:26:34.26\00:26:38.59
in Daniel 12:1-2.
00:26:38.63\00:26:40.03
The standing up of
Michael, the time of trouble,
00:26:40.40\00:26:43.53
the deliverance of God's people,
and the special resurrection.
00:26:43.80\00:26:47.40
Now let's notice how
Ellen G. White developed these
00:26:48.07\00:26:51.74
four events in,
The Great Controversy.
00:26:51.77\00:26:54.18
But let's do it in reverse order
00:26:54.44\00:26:56.81
beginning with the
fourth item on the list;
00:26:56.85\00:26:59.31
the special resurrection.
00:26:59.41\00:27:00.78
Are you understanding
what we're going to do?
00:27:00.82\00:27:02.28
We're going to work backwards.
00:27:02.32\00:27:03.65
And there's a reason for that.
00:27:03.69\00:27:05.02
Now where does Ellen
White quote Daniel chapter 12
00:27:05.22\00:27:08.32
and verse 2, which
is the fourth item?
00:27:08.36\00:27:10.66
Great Controversy, 637.
00:27:11.39\00:27:13.66
She says, "Graves are opened,
and 'many of them that sleep
00:27:13.70\00:27:17.83
in the dust of the earth'
'awake, some to everlasting
00:27:17.87\00:27:21.40
life, and some to shame
and everlasting contempt.'"
00:27:21.44\00:27:25.17
So does Ellen White
quote Daniel 12 verse 2?
00:27:25.51\00:27:28.08
Yes she does.
00:27:28.18\00:27:29.51
In, Great Controversy, 637.
00:27:29.54\00:27:31.91
Now would you expect, if Ellen
White is giving these events
00:27:32.38\00:27:36.35
in chronological
order, would you expect
00:27:36.38\00:27:38.45
the previous
event, event number three,
00:27:38.65\00:27:41.46
to be a little
bit before this one?
00:27:41.49\00:27:43.56
Of course.
00:27:43.66\00:27:44.99
So let's go to, Great
Controversy, page 635,
00:27:45.03\00:27:47.66
to see if working backwards
she mentions event number three.
00:27:47.70\00:27:51.63
Ellen White describes
the third item on the list.
00:27:52.10\00:27:55.20
In fact, the chapter's title
in, Great Controversy, 635,
00:27:55.90\00:28:00.18
is, God's People Delivered.
00:28:00.21\00:28:03.51
At the beginning of
the chapter, she states,
00:28:04.21\00:28:06.82
"The people of God; some in
prison cells, some hidden in
00:28:06.85\00:28:10.35
solitary retreats in the
forests and the mountains,
00:28:10.39\00:28:13.15
still plead for
divine protection,
00:28:13.19\00:28:15.32
while in every quarter
companies of armed men,
00:28:15.36\00:28:18.49
urged on by
hosts of evil angels,
00:28:18.53\00:28:21.83
are preparing for
the work of death.
00:28:21.86\00:28:24.07
It is now, in the
hour of utmost extremity,
00:28:24.10\00:28:28.10
that the God of Israel
will interpose for the..." What?
00:28:28.14\00:28:31.71
"...for the
deliverance of his chosen."
00:28:31.74\00:28:34.08
So does she mention deliverance,
God's people will be delivered,
00:28:34.44\00:28:38.31
in page 635?
00:28:38.35\00:28:39.81
Now where would you expect
to find phrase number two?
00:28:40.12\00:28:43.25
Maybe a little bit earlier?
00:28:44.59\00:28:46.25
But let me read another
statement here before we
00:28:47.22\00:28:49.82
go to the second
phrase in the order.
00:28:49.86\00:28:53.33
It will be noticed also
that Ellen White concluded
00:28:53.86\00:28:57.67
the previous
chapter, the previous one
00:28:57.70\00:28:59.67
to God's people
delivered, with a clear allusion
00:28:59.70\00:29:03.27
to Daniel 12 verse
1, where we are told
00:29:03.30\00:29:06.07
that those who are written
in the book will be delivered.
00:29:06.11\00:29:08.51
So she ends the
chapter on the time of trouble
00:29:08.54\00:29:10.75
with the idea of God's
people being delivered.
00:29:10.85\00:29:13.48
And then the very
next chapter, the title is,
00:29:13.52\00:29:16.08
God's People Delivered.
00:29:16.12\00:29:17.45
Notice what she says.
00:29:17.49\00:29:18.82
"Glorious will be the..." What?
00:29:18.99\00:29:21.02
"...the deliverance of
those who have patiently waited
00:29:21.26\00:29:24.53
for his coming, whose names are
written in the book of life."
00:29:24.56\00:29:28.20
You see, we're
working backwards?
00:29:29.16\00:29:30.80
Now, where would you expect
to find phrase number two?
00:29:31.27\00:29:35.14
Earlier in, Great
Controversy, right?
00:29:35.40\00:29:37.77
Now let's notice,
Great Controversy, page 616.
00:29:38.51\00:29:41.78
Ellen White describes
the second item on the list
00:29:42.84\00:29:46.31
by explaining the time
of trouble through which
00:29:46.35\00:29:48.95
God's people will go.
00:29:48.98\00:29:50.39
In fact, on page 616,
she says, "The people of God
00:29:50.99\00:29:55.32
will then be plunged into
those scenes of affliction
00:29:55.36\00:29:58.93
and distress described
by the prophet as..." What?
00:29:58.96\00:30:03.43
"...as the time of trouble."
00:30:03.70\00:30:06.77
And so on page 616, she's
describing item number two.
00:30:07.40\00:30:12.11
Are you seeing this?
00:30:13.14\00:30:14.48
637, 635, 616.
00:30:14.51\00:30:19.18
Where would you expect to
find the first item on the list?
00:30:19.21\00:30:22.08
Earlier than 616. Correct?
00:30:23.18\00:30:26.35
Notice page 613.
00:30:26.69\00:30:28.72
Ellen White begins the
chapter on, The Time of Trouble,
00:30:29.22\00:30:32.36
by quoting Daniel 12
verse 1 and then amplifies
00:30:32.66\00:30:36.80
the meaning of the
standing up of Michael,
00:30:36.83\00:30:39.67
the first time on that list.
00:30:39.77\00:30:42.07
This is her quotation.
00:30:42.60\00:30:44.11
"Then Jesus ceases
his intercession in the
00:30:44.47\00:30:47.04
sanctuary above."
00:30:47.08\00:30:48.41
"When he leaves the
sanctuary, darkness covers
00:30:48.44\00:30:50.81
the inhabitants of the earth.
00:30:50.85\00:30:52.18
In that fearful time the
righteous must live in the
00:30:52.75\00:30:56.38
sight of a holy God
without a mediator."
00:30:56.42\00:30:59.85
So is she commenting there
on the standing up of Michael
00:31:00.29\00:31:04.06
and the close of probation?
00:31:04.09\00:31:05.43
Absolutely.
00:31:05.49\00:31:06.83
So what have we been doing?
00:31:06.86\00:31:08.20
Instead of working forwards,
we're working backwards.
00:31:08.23\00:31:11.37
Now let's review here.
00:31:12.07\00:31:14.40
613; the standing up of Michael.
00:31:15.54\00:31:18.21
616; the time of trouble.
00:31:18.61\00:31:21.18
635, God's people delivered.
00:31:21.64\00:31:24.58
And 637, the
special resurrection.
00:31:24.88\00:31:28.28
Now, let's take a look at a very
important little expression.
00:31:29.38\00:31:33.29
The importance of the
expression, "at that time."
00:31:33.39\00:31:37.03
It is extremely important
to realize that Daniel 12:1-2
00:31:37.76\00:31:42.73
cannot be understood
independently of its context.
00:31:43.16\00:31:47.04
Daniel 12:1-2 is
actually a continuation
00:31:47.30\00:31:51.37
of the flow of events
that transpired in the
00:31:51.74\00:31:54.94
previous verses.
00:31:54.98\00:31:56.38
In other words, verses 40 to 45.
00:31:57.45\00:31:59.55
This is clearly indicated by
the fact that Daniel 12 verse 1
00:32:00.25\00:32:04.22
begins with a time
reference; "at that time,"
00:32:04.32\00:32:09.62
which links Daniel 12 verse
1 with what occurred previously
00:32:10.16\00:32:14.30
in verses 40 to 45.
00:32:14.33\00:32:15.80
Are you with me or not?
00:32:15.83\00:32:17.17
Now the key question
is, where would we expect
00:32:18.90\00:32:23.67
to find Ellen White's
comments about what takes place
00:32:23.71\00:32:26.94
before Daniel 12 verse 1?
00:32:26.98\00:32:28.94
The answer is unmistakable.
00:32:29.78\00:32:31.45
It must be found in the
pages that immediately precede
00:32:31.81\00:32:35.65
the chapter on the
standing up of Michael
00:32:35.68\00:32:38.19
and the time of trouble.
00:32:38.22\00:32:39.55
Is this making sense?
00:32:41.26\00:32:42.72
See, we're doing
the work of a detective.
00:32:43.02\00:32:44.99
We're working backwards.
00:32:45.66\00:32:47.16
You know, the detective,
when there's a crime, he has to
00:32:47.36\00:32:51.00
work backwards and retrace
the steps on the individual
00:32:51.03\00:32:54.04
who committed the crime.
00:32:54.07\00:32:55.40
We're not saying
that this is a crime.
00:32:55.44\00:32:56.77
But we're using just an
example of working backwards.
00:32:57.34\00:33:01.58
Now, we need to understand
the literary structure
00:33:01.78\00:33:05.15
of Daniel 11:44b, that is
the second half of the verse,
00:33:05.18\00:33:09.02
through verse 45
and Daniel 12 verse 1.
00:33:09.68\00:33:13.22
In other words, Daniel 11:44,
the last part of the verse,
00:33:13.25\00:33:16.93
and verse 45, we're
going to compare now with
00:33:16.96\00:33:19.69
Daniel chapter 12 and verse 1.
00:33:19.73\00:33:21.53
Now let's carefully
consider the literary structure
00:33:22.30\00:33:25.43
of Daniel 11:44b through 45 as
it relates to Daniel 12 verse 1
00:33:25.63\00:33:32.31
in order to ascertain to
what event the expression,
00:33:32.91\00:33:36.31
"at that time," refers to.
00:33:36.34\00:33:38.81
A comparison of
these two passages reveals
00:33:39.35\00:33:42.55
that they are
describing the same events
00:33:42.88\00:33:45.79
in the same order, but
with a different terminology
00:33:46.19\00:33:50.03
and emphasis.
00:33:50.06\00:33:51.46
In other words,
11:44b-45 and Daniel 12 verse 1
00:33:51.99\00:33:57.07
are describing the same events,
but with different terminology
00:33:57.10\00:34:00.80
and a different emphasis.
00:34:00.84\00:34:02.27
You'll see what I mean.
00:34:02.30\00:34:03.81
Let's take
Daniel 11:44b-45 first.
00:34:04.31\00:34:08.21
The king of the north goes out
to destroy and annihilate many.
00:34:08.81\00:34:13.38
That's 11:44b.
00:34:13.42\00:34:15.98
The next event is in
verse 45a where it says
00:34:16.42\00:34:20.86
the king of the north
sets up the tents of his palace
00:34:20.89\00:34:23.46
in a strategic place
between the sea and the
00:34:23.49\00:34:26.39
glorious holy mountain.
00:34:26.43\00:34:27.90
And then 11:45b says
the king of the north
00:34:28.16\00:34:32.50
comes to his end
with none to help him.
00:34:32.53\00:34:35.20
You see the sequence there?
00:34:35.24\00:34:36.87
He goes out to destroy, he
sets up the tents of his palace,
00:34:37.17\00:34:40.78
and he comes to his
end with none to help him.
00:34:40.81\00:34:43.14
Now let's notice
Daniel chapter 12 and verse 1.
00:34:43.48\00:34:46.11
Michael stands up
to defend His people.
00:34:46.41\00:34:49.62
Why does He stand up
to defend His people?
00:34:49.65\00:34:51.79
Because in the "a" line
above, the king of the north
00:34:52.75\00:34:55.96
has gone out to destroy them.
00:34:55.99\00:34:57.46
Why does the time of
trouble such as never was ensue?
00:34:58.89\00:35:03.06
Because the king of the north
has set up the tents of his
00:35:03.37\00:35:05.77
palace in a strategic
place between the sea and the
00:35:05.80\00:35:08.80
glorious holy mountain.
00:35:08.84\00:35:10.24
And what is meant by the king
of the north coming to his end
00:35:11.27\00:35:14.58
with none to help him?
00:35:14.61\00:35:16.14
It means that God's
people will be what?
00:35:16.18\00:35:18.81
God's people will be delivered.
00:35:18.85\00:35:20.95
Are you understanding this?
00:35:21.58\00:35:23.12
Now let's
continue the commentary.
00:35:23.15\00:35:25.39
Daniel 11:44b-45 and
12:1 are precisely parallel,
00:35:25.59\00:35:31.76
but they portray a
different emphasis.
00:35:31.99\00:35:34.80
Whereas Daniel 11:44b-45
highlights the activities of
00:35:35.03\00:35:40.04
the king of the north and
its destiny for oppressing
00:35:40.07\00:35:43.27
God's people, Daniel 12 verse
1 focuses on the jeopardy of
00:35:43.30\00:35:47.54
God's people at the
hand of the king of the north
00:35:47.58\00:35:50.15
and their deliverance by God.
00:35:50.18\00:35:51.85
This is the way
that it works out...
00:35:52.35\00:35:54.15
Now notice.
00:35:54.48\00:35:55.82
When the king of the north
goes out with great fury to
00:35:56.05\00:35:58.79
destroy and annihilate
many, Michael will stand up to
00:35:58.82\00:36:02.19
protect and defend them.
00:36:02.22\00:36:03.56
When the king of the north
places the tent of his palace
00:36:03.96\00:36:06.66
in a strategic location to
deliver the final death blow
00:36:06.70\00:36:09.60
against God's people,
they will go through a terrible
00:36:09.63\00:36:12.63
time of trouble
such as never was.
00:36:12.67\00:36:14.94
But the king of the
north will come to his end
00:36:15.10\00:36:17.17
with none to help him when God
intervenes to deliver His people
00:36:17.21\00:36:20.84
who are written in the book.
00:36:20.88\00:36:22.34
The expression, "at that time,"
thus links Daniel 11:44b-45
00:36:22.64\00:36:28.38
with Daniel 12 verse 1.
00:36:28.58\00:36:30.89
Are you following me?
00:36:31.89\00:36:33.22
Now what about Daniel 11:44a?
00:36:33.52\00:36:38.03
You say, "Why did you
begin at Daniel 11:44b?"
00:36:38.59\00:36:41.76
Well let's notice at
the first part of verse 44.
00:36:41.80\00:36:45.10
But what about Daniel 11:44a?
00:36:45.73\00:36:48.37
Here, we are told that tidings
from the north and from the east
00:36:49.00\00:36:53.04
will trouble the
king of the north.
00:36:53.07\00:36:54.88
This phrase explains the
reason why the king of the north
00:36:55.41\00:36:58.45
will go out to attempt to
destroy and annihilate many.
00:36:58.48\00:37:01.65
The last half of verse 44
says he's going to go out to
00:37:01.68\00:37:04.25
destroy and annihilate many.
00:37:04.29\00:37:06.29
Why is it that
he's going to do that?
00:37:06.32\00:37:07.96
Because the first half of
the verse says that tidings from
00:37:07.99\00:37:12.19
the north and from
the east will what?
00:37:12.23\00:37:13.80
Will trouble the
king of the north.
00:37:14.03\00:37:15.76
Notice what the verse says.
00:37:16.16\00:37:17.67
"But news from the east and
the north shall trouble him..."
00:37:17.70\00:37:21.84
And that means, to
alarm him or to disturb him.
00:37:21.87\00:37:24.67
That is, the king of the north.
00:37:24.77\00:37:26.11
"...therefore he shall go
out with great fury to destroy
00:37:26.14\00:37:30.55
and annihilate many."
00:37:30.58\00:37:32.28
What is it that leads the
king of the north to go out and
00:37:32.31\00:37:35.18
try to destroy God's people?
00:37:35.22\00:37:36.79
There's some certain
tidings that come from the north
00:37:37.22\00:37:39.49
and from the east
that infuriate him.
00:37:39.52\00:37:41.79
Now, what is this news
from the east and the north
00:37:42.56\00:37:46.39
that so infuriates the
king of the north that he seeks
00:37:47.03\00:37:50.03
to destroy many?
00:37:50.07\00:37:51.40
We must to go the
book of Revelation
00:37:51.50\00:37:54.07
for the answer, because we
are told that the book of Daniel
00:37:54.70\00:37:58.21
is unsealed by the
book of Revelation.
00:37:58.24\00:38:00.64
In fact, Ellen White says
in, Christ Triumphant, page 344,
00:38:01.01\00:38:04.41
"The books of Daniel
and the Revelation are one.
00:38:04.75\00:38:07.82
One is a prophecy,
the other a revelation;
00:38:08.12\00:38:10.85
one a book sealed, and
the other a book opened."
00:38:11.15\00:38:16.89
Now listen carefully.
00:38:17.69\00:38:19.19
Revelation 7 verse 2
describes an angel who ascends
00:38:19.83\00:38:23.26
from the east having
the seal of the living God.
00:38:23.30\00:38:27.90
What is the seal
of the living God?
00:38:29.40\00:38:31.17
It's the Sabbath message, folks.
00:38:31.64\00:38:33.34
This angel comes to
seal the faithful of God
00:38:33.94\00:38:36.71
upon their foreheads.
00:38:36.75\00:38:38.08
In contrast, the land
beast will impose what?
00:38:38.25\00:38:41.32
The mark of the beast on pain
of death to those who refuse it.
00:38:41.35\00:38:45.22
So what are the
tidings from the east?
00:38:46.32\00:38:48.76
It's the sealing message.
00:38:49.22\00:38:50.73
What about the
tidings from the north?
00:38:51.16\00:38:53.13
Revelation 18:1-5
portrays a powerful angel
00:38:53.66\00:38:58.47
who descends from where?
00:38:58.50\00:39:00.30
From heaven.
00:39:00.57\00:39:01.90
And where is heaven?
00:39:01.94\00:39:03.27
In the sides of the
north. That's right.
00:39:03.94\00:39:06.21
And gives a clarion call
for God's people to reject
00:39:06.64\00:39:10.25
the mark of the beast
and to get out of Babylon
00:39:10.28\00:39:13.25
before Babylon is destroyed.
00:39:13.28\00:39:15.05
Thus, the tidings from
the north and from the east
00:39:15.38\00:39:18.12
are identified by the
book of Revelation as the
00:39:18.22\00:39:21.19
message of the sealing and
the call to come out of Babylon.
00:39:21.22\00:39:24.96
Good to hear those amens.
00:39:27.66\00:39:29.66
You're following along. Good.
00:39:29.70\00:39:31.13
Ellen White concurs
with this biblical view.
00:39:32.17\00:39:35.00
The chapter immediately
preceding the one on the
00:39:35.30\00:39:38.07
standing up of Michael
and the time of trouble
00:39:38.11\00:39:40.91
is titled, The Final Warning.
00:39:41.41\00:39:43.68
Huh, how interesting.
00:39:44.51\00:39:46.61
The Final Warning.
00:39:46.65\00:39:47.98
Ellen White begins this chapter
in, Great Controversy, 603...
00:39:48.38\00:39:52.72
Is that earlier?
00:39:52.75\00:39:54.09
Yes.
00:39:54.32\00:39:55.66
..on page 603 by
quoting Revelation 18
00:39:55.69\00:39:59.49
verse 1, verse
2, verses 4 and 5.
00:39:59.53\00:40:02.03
In perfect accordance
with Revelation 7 verse 2,
00:40:02.30\00:40:05.77
she then described on
page 605 the issue that
00:40:05.80\00:40:09.20
will divide the world.
00:40:09.24\00:40:10.57
This is what she says,
00:40:10.61\00:40:11.94
"While the
observance of the false sabbath
00:40:11.97\00:40:13.98
in compliance with
the law of the State,
00:40:14.18\00:40:16.58
contrary to the
fourth commandment,
00:40:16.61\00:40:18.41
will be an avowal of
allegiance to a power that is in
00:40:18.45\00:40:21.18
opposition to God, the
keeping of the true Sabbath,
00:40:21.22\00:40:24.55
in obedience to God's
law, is an evidence of
00:40:24.59\00:40:27.79
loyalty to the Creator.
00:40:27.82\00:40:29.42
While one class, by
accepting the sign of submission
00:40:29.66\00:40:32.89
to earthly powers,
receive the mark of the beast,
00:40:32.93\00:40:35.50
the other, choosing the token of
allegiance to divine authority,
00:40:35.53\00:40:39.33
receive the seal of God."
00:40:39.37\00:40:41.67
So does the previous
chapter deal with the sealing?
00:40:41.70\00:40:45.07
The angel that
comes from the east?
00:40:45.17\00:40:46.94
Absolutely.
00:40:46.98\00:40:48.31
In the same chapter,
Ellen White goes on to describe
00:40:48.68\00:40:52.21
the anger that this message will
cause in the religious world.
00:40:52.25\00:40:55.55
Remember that the tidings
from the north and the east
00:40:55.92\00:40:58.02
infuriate the king of the north.
00:40:58.05\00:40:59.72
Now notice what Ellen
White says on page 607.
00:41:00.16\00:41:03.79
She says, "The power attending
the message will only..." What?
00:41:04.06\00:41:08.76
"...will only madden
those who oppose it."
00:41:08.80\00:41:11.37
And on pages 614 and 615,
she says, "The power attending
00:41:11.70\00:41:16.27
the last warning
has enraged the wicked;
00:41:16.30\00:41:19.11
their anger is kindled
against all who have received
00:41:19.14\00:41:22.44
the message, and Satan
will excite to still greater
00:41:22.48\00:41:25.78
intensity the spirit of
hatred and persecution."
00:41:25.81\00:41:29.55
So what are the tidings from
the north and from the east?
00:41:30.72\00:41:33.62
It's the loud
cry of Revelation 18
00:41:33.89\00:41:36.42
and it is the sealing
of Revelation chapter 7
00:41:36.62\00:41:39.49
that infuriates
the king of the north.
00:41:39.53\00:41:41.66
And Ellen White comments
this earlier than what we find
00:41:41.76\00:41:45.90
in Daniel
chapter 12 and verse 1.
00:41:45.93\00:41:48.40
So does Ellen White
have anything to say about
00:41:49.24\00:41:51.24
the tidings from the
north and from the east,
00:41:51.27\00:41:53.31
and the anger of
the king of the north
00:41:53.58\00:41:55.71
going out to
destroy God's people?
00:41:55.74\00:41:57.41
Of course she does.
00:41:57.45\00:41:58.78
She doesn't use the verses,
she doesn't use the terms.
00:41:58.81\00:42:01.22
But if you follow the
sequence, you're going to find
00:42:01.25\00:42:04.05
that the sealing, the
angel that comes from the east,
00:42:04.09\00:42:07.49
is equivalent to
tidings from the east,
00:42:07.79\00:42:09.82
and the message of the
loud cry that comes from
00:42:09.86\00:42:13.06
heaven, from the north, is
the tidings from the north.
00:42:13.09\00:42:17.70
Now let's continue.
00:42:17.73\00:42:19.07
Thus, the news from
the north is identified in
00:42:19.17\00:42:22.27
Revelation 18 as the
loud cry of the angel who
00:42:22.30\00:42:25.21
descends from
heaven, from the north.
00:42:25.24\00:42:27.38
And the news from the east
is the message concerning the
00:42:27.68\00:42:31.05
seal of God in Revelation 7.
00:42:31.08\00:42:32.98
This message from the
north and from the east
00:42:33.42\00:42:36.02
is described in Daniel 11:44a,
00:42:36.05\00:42:39.15
where the king of the
north is filled with fury
00:42:39.89\00:42:43.32
to the point of wanting
to destroy God's remnant,
00:42:43.36\00:42:46.96
as described in
Daniel chapter 11 verse 44b.
00:42:47.00\00:42:51.80
So far so good?
00:42:52.53\00:42:53.87
Alright, very good.
00:42:54.10\00:42:55.44
Now, let's talk about
the beginning point of
00:42:55.47\00:42:59.37
Daniel 11:40-45.
00:42:59.41\00:43:01.64
See, we've only dealt
with some of the events.
00:43:01.68\00:43:04.38
I'm not going to go
through all of the other events
00:43:04.41\00:43:06.61
that take us all
the way to verse 40.
00:43:06.65\00:43:08.45
But you have the
principle now, right?
00:43:08.58\00:43:11.22
You know now that
you can work backwards.
00:43:11.25\00:43:13.76
So where would you expect
to find Ellen White's comments
00:43:13.99\00:43:16.99
about what comes
before verse 44 of chapter 11?
00:43:17.09\00:43:21.66
Well you have to
go earlier, don't you.
00:43:21.70\00:43:23.87
Now, we have focused in
this article, or this lecture,
00:43:24.33\00:43:28.14
primarily on the events from
Daniel 11:44 to Daniel 12:2.
00:43:28.17\00:43:33.07
But if we continued
moving backwards in,
00:43:33.38\00:43:35.74
The Great
Controversy, before page 603,
00:43:35.78\00:43:38.78
we would find in reverse
order that Ellen White expounds
00:43:39.05\00:43:42.85
upon each phrase
of Daniel 11:40-45
00:43:42.88\00:43:46.42
ending with the chapter on the
Bible and the French Revolution
00:43:46.62\00:43:50.43
where the deadly wound of
Daniel 11:40a is described.
00:43:50.63\00:43:55.86
That's pages 265-288.
00:43:55.90\00:43:58.90
Though she does not employ
the terminology of verses 40-45,
00:43:59.13\00:44:03.27
the sequence of
events clearly reveals
00:44:03.30\00:44:06.84
that she is
discussing these verses.
00:44:06.88\00:44:09.54
In Daniel 11:40a, we are
told that the king of the south
00:44:10.01\00:44:14.58
would push at
the king of the north
00:44:14.68\00:44:16.99
at the time of the end.
00:44:17.32\00:44:18.82
Ellen White clearly
identifies the beginning of the
00:44:19.29\00:44:22.02
time of the end as
the year 1798 when France
00:44:22.06\00:44:26.26
dealt the papacy
its deadly wound.
00:44:26.36\00:44:28.86
So where does
Daniel 11 verse 40 begin?
00:44:29.33\00:44:33.64
It begins with
the French Revolution.
00:44:34.37\00:44:36.60
And it begins in,
Great Controversy, page 356.
00:44:36.87\00:44:40.34
The word, "push,"
does not adequately portray
00:44:40.58\00:44:44.21
the idea of the text.
00:44:44.25\00:44:45.88
The historical event
that is described by this word
00:44:46.18\00:44:49.42
was not a
friendly nudge or a shove.
00:44:49.62\00:44:52.59
The NIV translates,
"will engage him in battle,"
00:44:52.92\00:44:57.83
while the ESV
translates, "shall attack him."
00:44:58.53\00:45:01.90
That is, in the year
1798, some power described as
00:45:02.36\00:45:06.74
the king of the south would
attack the king of the north.
00:45:06.77\00:45:10.24
So where do you begin
in, The Great Controversy,
00:45:10.41\00:45:13.38
the study of verse 40?
00:45:13.41\00:45:16.38
You begin where she comments on
the French Revolution, page 356.
00:45:16.61\00:45:21.18
And so, as you continue
studying after page 356,
00:45:21.72\00:45:25.42
you're going to
discover all of the events
00:45:25.45\00:45:27.66
between verse 40 and verse 44.
00:45:27.69\00:45:30.79
Now let's continue here.
00:45:31.66\00:45:33.23
There is a wide consensus
among students of prophecy
00:45:33.93\00:45:37.17
in the
Seventh-day Adventist church
00:45:37.20\00:45:38.87
that the king of the
north represents the papacy.
00:45:39.23\00:45:41.80
And until recently, there
was a broad consensus that
00:45:42.27\00:45:45.91
the king of the
south represents secularism
00:45:45.94\00:45:49.14
as it is manifested
in the French Revolution.
00:45:49.18\00:45:52.08
But times have changed.
00:45:52.35\00:45:54.22
And some Adventist preachers,
as they look at current events,
00:45:54.32\00:45:58.19
are re-interpreting
the king of the south
00:45:58.22\00:46:00.32
as a symbol of militant Islam.
00:46:00.36\00:46:03.32
Literally and geographically
speaking, the king of the
00:46:04.13\00:46:07.90
south was Egypt.
00:46:07.93\00:46:09.26
Because Egypt was the kingdom
that was south of Israel.
00:46:09.83\00:46:12.67
But in the end time, we
are not dealing with literal
00:46:13.13\00:46:15.87
geographical locations,
but rather with global systems.
00:46:15.90\00:46:19.54
We've studied that.
00:46:19.57\00:46:20.91
Who is the king of the
south, spiritually speaking.
00:46:21.01\00:46:24.51
I believe that Revelation
11, which is linked with the
00:46:25.35\00:46:28.58
fifth and sixth
trumpets, by the way,
00:46:28.62\00:46:30.19
clearly identifies
France as spiritual Egypt.
00:46:30.39\00:46:33.96
While Babylon
represents a global apostate
00:46:34.49\00:46:37.36
religious system, Egypt
symbolizes the secular powers
00:46:37.39\00:46:41.76
of the world that threw
off the yoke of papal Rome
00:46:41.80\00:46:45.17
beginning with France.
00:46:45.20\00:46:46.74
Revelation 17 explains
that for a very short while
00:46:47.24\00:46:51.31
at the end of time, the
secular powers of the world
00:46:51.34\00:46:54.81
will once again join
together in unholy wedlock
00:46:55.18\00:46:58.45
with the harlot.
00:46:58.48\00:46:59.91
But in the end, the kings
of the earth will hate the
00:47:00.15\00:47:04.32
Babylonian
harlot and destroy her.
00:47:04.35\00:47:07.52
Babylon was the
literal and geographical
00:47:08.09\00:47:14.26
king of the north
in biblical times,
00:47:14.30\00:47:16.56
because it was the enemy
that invaded literal Israel
00:47:16.60\00:47:19.40
from the literal north.
00:47:19.43\00:47:20.80
But today, the king of the north
is a global spiritual system
00:47:21.04\00:47:25.04
of counterfeit religion,
the Roman Catholic Papacy.
00:47:25.07\00:47:28.04
The papacy is
certainly not literally
00:47:28.48\00:47:30.65
north of literal Israel.
00:47:30.68\00:47:32.01
Actually, it is west.
00:47:32.05\00:47:33.75
We must therefore
interpret the king of the north
00:47:34.02\00:47:36.85
and the king of
the south symbolically.
00:47:36.99\00:47:39.95
And what was the
main characteristic
00:47:40.46\00:47:42.56
of France in 1798?
00:47:42.59\00:47:44.29
Why is France called Egypt?
00:47:44.33\00:47:45.99
The spirit of the
French Revolution was atheism.
00:47:46.43\00:47:49.53
But actually, Daniel 11:40a
involves far more than atheism.
00:47:50.67\00:47:55.57
The genius of
the French Revolution
00:47:55.80\00:47:57.97
culminating with the
captivity of Pope Pious VI
00:47:58.17\00:48:01.54
was to secularize the
government and separate it
00:48:01.58\00:48:05.01
from its adulterous
relationship with the church.
00:48:05.11\00:48:07.82
In the course of several decades
after the French Revolution,
00:48:08.22\00:48:11.22
country after country in Europe
established secular governments
00:48:11.55\00:48:15.89
separate from the
dominance of the papacy.
00:48:15.92\00:48:19.19
Ellen White has
stated why the papacy
00:48:19.56\00:48:21.90
has not been able to
ascend to power once more.
00:48:21.93\00:48:24.73
She says, "Let the restraints
now imposed by secular
00:48:24.77\00:48:28.10
governments be removed
and Rome be re-instated
00:48:28.14\00:48:31.47
in her former power
and there would speedily be
00:48:31.51\00:48:34.34
a revival of her
tyranny and persecution."
00:48:34.38\00:48:37.48
So Daniel 11 verse 40
says that the king of the south
00:48:39.28\00:48:43.45
would push at the
king of the north.
00:48:43.85\00:48:45.85
And the time of
the end there is 1798,
00:48:46.82\00:48:49.99
according to the
spirit of prophecy.
00:48:50.03\00:48:51.36
So we have to look for an event
where the king of the south
00:48:51.39\00:48:53.63
attacked the king of the north
in 1798, or around that time.
00:48:53.66\00:48:57.00
What event do we find
that fulfills that prophecy?
00:48:57.57\00:49:00.67
France.
00:49:01.84\00:49:03.17
Because France
said, "I don't know God."
00:49:03.27\00:49:06.24
France rejected the true
God and attacked Babylon,
00:49:07.88\00:49:11.78
or the king of the
north, which is the papacy.
00:49:12.45\00:49:15.42
And Ellen White
comments that on page 356.
00:49:16.02\00:49:19.95
So we know what
the starting point is.
00:49:20.36\00:49:22.16
The starting point
for Daniel 11 verse 40
00:49:22.19\00:49:25.43
is page 356.
00:49:25.46\00:49:27.43
The ending point
of Daniel 12 verse 2
00:49:27.80\00:49:31.57
is found in, Great
Controversy, page 637.
00:49:31.60\00:49:35.74
So what do you have in between?
00:49:35.77\00:49:37.71
All of the
events between verse 40
00:49:38.07\00:49:40.41
and Daniel 12 verse 2.
00:49:40.84\00:49:42.54
So all you have to do is
study the pages in between there
00:49:42.94\00:49:46.01
and you're going to
find Ellen White's concept
00:49:46.05\00:49:48.65
of verses 40 to 45.
00:49:48.68\00:49:50.25
Are you with me or not?
00:49:50.29\00:49:51.62
Now, we have the following
beginning and ending points
00:49:51.82\00:49:55.49
then for Daniel
11 verses 40 to 45.
00:49:55.52\00:49:58.73
Daniel 11:40a is commented on
in, Great Controversy, 265-288.
00:49:59.33\00:50:06.80
That's the French Revolution.
00:50:06.84\00:50:08.17
France attacks the papacy,
inflicts the deadly wound,
00:50:08.40\00:50:11.87
the elicit love relationship
between church and state
00:50:12.27\00:50:14.78
is severed, and thus
the papacy is restrained.
00:50:14.81\00:50:17.95
The next passage is
Daniel 11:40b through 11:43.
00:50:18.61\00:50:23.49
In Great Controversy, Ellen
White, from page 289 to page 605
00:50:24.05\00:50:29.09
comments on these events.
00:50:29.12\00:50:30.83
These verses
describe events that transpire
00:50:30.99\00:50:34.00
between the infliction
of the deadly wound in 1798
00:50:34.10\00:50:37.63
and the loud cry.
00:50:37.67\00:50:39.00
Then Daniel 11:44a you
have in, Great Controversy, 605.
00:50:39.53\00:50:45.44
It's the loud cry
and the sealing message
00:50:45.54\00:50:48.21
that trouble and enrage the king
of the north, or the papacy.
00:50:48.24\00:50:51.55
Then you have Daniel
11:44b and Daniel 12 verse 1,
00:50:51.98\00:50:57.45
the first part of the verse,
in, Great Controversy, 607,
00:50:57.49\00:51:01.29
where you have
the rage of the wicked
00:51:01.52\00:51:04.46
increasing because of the loud
cry and the wicked wanting to
00:51:04.49\00:51:08.33
destroy God's people.
00:51:08.36\00:51:10.37
And then you have
Daniel 11 verse 45a
00:51:10.73\00:51:13.84
and 12:1b, which are
parallel, beginning with,
00:51:14.17\00:51:17.87
Great
Controversy, 613 and following.
00:51:17.91\00:51:20.61
There you have the
universal death decree
00:51:20.88\00:51:22.68
against God's people.
00:51:22.71\00:51:24.05
It is signed as the king
of the north sets up his tents
00:51:24.21\00:51:27.75
in a strategic position to
deliver the final death blow
00:51:27.78\00:51:31.19
against God's people.
00:51:31.22\00:51:32.55
This causes a time of
trouble for God's people
00:51:32.59\00:51:35.62
such as never has been.
00:51:35.66\00:51:37.29
Then you have Daniel
11:45b, which is parallel
00:51:37.96\00:51:41.96
to Daniel 12 verse 1c, or
the third part of the verse.
00:51:42.00\00:51:46.53
And that is commented
on in, Great Controversy,
00:51:46.74\00:51:49.20
635 and following.
00:51:49.40\00:51:52.01
There, the king of
the north comes to his end
00:51:52.61\00:51:54.84
with none to help him because
his supporters forsake him.
00:51:54.94\00:51:58.65
And as a result,
God's people are delivered.
00:51:58.68\00:52:01.45
And then Daniel chapter
12 and verse 2, which is
00:52:01.88\00:52:05.25
commented on in,
Great Controversy, 637,
00:52:05.29\00:52:08.22
Ellen White describes
the special resurrection
00:52:08.42\00:52:11.26
of those who died in the faith
of the third angel's message.
00:52:11.29\00:52:14.63
Thus, the two reference points
for the beginning and ending
00:52:15.36\00:52:18.70
of Daniel 11:40-45
are the French Revolution
00:52:18.73\00:52:22.24
at the beginning as described
in, Great Controversy, 265-288,
00:52:22.27\00:52:27.31
and the deliverance of
God's people and the special
00:52:27.58\00:52:30.11
resurrection in, Great
Controversy, 635 and 637.
00:52:30.15\00:52:34.78
In between these
two reference points
00:52:35.08\00:52:37.59
we have the events
that Ellen White describes
00:52:37.69\00:52:40.36
in, Great Controversy, 289-604.
00:52:40.39\00:52:44.03
A careful study of
these pages will reveal
00:52:44.29\00:52:46.83
that Ellen White
comments on all the details
00:52:46.86\00:52:49.70
in verses 40b through
verse 43 without actually using
00:52:49.80\00:52:54.97
the language.
00:52:55.00\00:52:56.34
Are you
following along with this?
00:52:56.67\00:52:58.27
It's extremely interesting.
00:52:58.57\00:53:00.14
So does Ellen White
have anything to say
00:53:00.31\00:53:02.14
about verses 40-45?
00:53:02.18\00:53:03.98
You bet she does.
00:53:04.05\00:53:05.55
But she doesn't use the verse,
she doesn't quote the verses,
00:53:06.31\00:53:09.35
and she doesn't
use the language.
00:53:09.38\00:53:10.72
So people say, "Oh, Ellen
White was silent on that."
00:53:10.75\00:53:13.02
No she wasn't.
00:53:13.05\00:53:14.39
She simply uses
different terminology.
00:53:14.42\00:53:17.49
And there's a
historical reason for that.
00:53:17.53\00:53:19.06
Now let's go quickly
here, because time is almost up.
00:53:19.09\00:53:21.93
It is simply amazing how
Ellen White vividly describes
00:53:22.86\00:53:25.67
the events of Daniel 11:40-45
without ever quoting the verses
00:53:25.70\00:53:30.47
or alluding to the language.
00:53:30.51\00:53:32.11
Why didn't she just
come out and quote the verses
00:53:32.34\00:53:35.08
and then comment on them?
00:53:35.11\00:53:36.64
There's a clear
historical reason.
00:53:36.85\00:53:38.55
The original view of
the pioneers was that the
00:53:38.98\00:53:41.35
king of the north represents
the Roman Catholic Papacy.
00:53:41.38\00:53:44.05
This is the clear view
expressed in the pamphlet,
00:53:44.55\00:53:47.22
A Word to the Little
Flock Scattered Abroad,
00:53:47.26\00:53:49.66
co-authored by James
and Ellen White in 1847.
00:53:49.69\00:53:54.00
But in the early
1870's, Uriah Smith, who was the
00:53:54.40\00:53:58.53
highly respected editor of the,
00:53:58.57\00:54:00.17
Advent Review
and Sabbath Herald,
00:54:00.20\00:54:01.74
changed the view of the pioneers
by re-interpreting the king of
00:54:01.84\00:54:05.47
the north as Turkey.
00:54:05.51\00:54:06.84
You see, in Smith's day, Turkey
was prominent in the news.
00:54:07.11\00:54:10.95
So he changed the traditional
view to fit current events.
00:54:10.98\00:54:15.42
James White was flabbergasted
by Smith's new view
00:54:15.82\00:54:19.02
and accused him of
removing one of the landmarks
00:54:19.25\00:54:21.82
of the advent movement.
00:54:21.86\00:54:23.19
Things started getting nasty
and members began taking sides.
00:54:23.32\00:54:27.20
In this context, Ellen
White instructed her husband
00:54:27.53\00:54:30.23
to desist of his criticism.
00:54:30.27\00:54:32.03
She knew that an
understanding of Daniel 11:40-45
00:54:32.27\00:54:37.14
was not a matter of
life and death at that time.
00:54:37.17\00:54:40.74
Her main concern at
that moment was to preserve
00:54:41.11\00:54:43.51
the unity of the church.
00:54:43.55\00:54:45.08
If Ellen White had quoted
the verses of Daniel 11:40-45
00:54:45.28\00:54:49.02
and offered a view
contradictory to Uriah Smith's,
00:54:49.32\00:54:53.25
she would have been
accused of nepotism.
00:54:53.36\00:54:55.62
So she commented on these
verses without quoting them
00:54:55.82\00:54:59.06
or alluding to the
language, knowing full well
00:54:59.09\00:55:03.03
that someday someone would
discover her view of the matter.
00:55:03.06\00:55:06.67
Significantly, in the
eschatological portion of,
00:55:07.30\00:55:11.24
The Great Controversy,
Ellen White does not mention
00:55:11.27\00:55:13.98
Islam even once as playing
any role in the fulfillment of
00:55:14.01\00:55:18.08
Bible prophecy in the end time.
00:55:18.11\00:55:19.85
It appears that Ellen White
saw no prophetic significance
00:55:20.05\00:55:23.08
to the rise of radical Islam.
00:55:23.28\00:55:25.12
The same is true of the great
chain prophecies of Scripture.
00:55:25.32\00:55:28.26
There is no reference to
Islam in the prophecies of
00:55:28.49\00:55:30.76
Daniel 2, Daniel 7, Daniel
8, Daniel 9, Revelation 12,
00:55:30.79\00:55:35.60
Revelation 13,
Matthew 24, and Revelation 17.
00:55:35.63\00:55:39.53
Neither is there any reference
to Islam in the series of the
00:55:39.73\00:55:42.80
churches and the seals.
00:55:42.84\00:55:44.27
Ellen White's silence on the
role of Islam in Bible prophecy
00:55:44.61\00:55:48.31
has puzzled some
Seventh-day Adventist scholars
00:55:48.41\00:55:51.21
who have concluded that
Ellen White simply did not
00:55:51.65\00:55:53.85
have all the light
on end time events.
00:55:53.88\00:55:55.88
At least one of these scholars
has even reached the conclusion
00:55:56.02\00:55:58.89
that Ellen White was
wrong in her interpretation of
00:55:58.92\00:56:01.52
the little horn as
the symbol of the papacy.
00:56:01.56\00:56:03.93
And he
re-interpreted it as Islam.
00:56:04.13\00:56:07.30
That's Sam Bacchiocchi.
00:56:07.33\00:56:08.86
Don't get me wrong.
00:56:08.90\00:56:10.23
I'm not saying that
Islam might not play a role
00:56:10.27\00:56:12.83
in the
precipitation of end time events
00:56:12.93\00:56:15.60
as they are described
in, The Great Controversy.
00:56:15.64\00:56:17.87
It is true that Islam
might serve as a catalyst
00:56:18.21\00:56:21.04
for the
fulfillment of Bible prophecies
00:56:21.08\00:56:23.14
concerning the United
States and the papacy.
00:56:23.18\00:56:25.35
But I do not believe
that the rising power
00:56:25.55\00:56:27.85
of militant Islam is
contemplated directly
00:56:27.88\00:56:31.29
by prophecy itself.
00:56:31.32\00:56:33.09
That is to say, in the
light of the biblical evidence,
00:56:33.29\00:56:35.69
I do not believe that radical
Islam fulfills any specific
00:56:36.49\00:56:39.89
end time prophecy, but very
well could serve as a catalyst
00:56:39.93\00:56:43.30
for the fulfillment of prophecy.
00:56:43.33\00:56:44.90
After all, radical Islam
has brought the United States
00:56:44.93\00:56:47.70
to prominence and has led it
to flex its military muscles,
00:56:47.74\00:56:51.77
and has made the curtailing
of our civil and religious
00:56:51.81\00:56:54.48
liberties easier.
00:56:54.51\00:56:55.91
And it has also misdirected
the eyes of Christians,
00:56:55.94\00:56:58.71
and even a few Seventh-day
Adventists, to the Middle East
00:56:58.75\00:57:01.35
for the fulfillment of prophecy.
00:57:01.38\00:57:02.88
Thus hiding from view the
powers that will play a role
00:57:03.08\00:57:05.59
in the end time events;
00:57:05.62\00:57:06.96
the papacy and
apostate Protestantism.
00:57:06.99\00:57:09.56
Time has proven that Uriah
Smith's re-interpretation of
00:57:09.96\00:57:13.40
the king of the north was wrong.
00:57:13.43\00:57:15.36
Will we learn from his mistake?
00:57:15.46\00:57:17.73
Will we ever learn that the
best way to understand prophecy
00:57:17.77\00:57:21.20
is not to read the
newspapers or to watch CNN,
00:57:21.40\00:57:24.87
but rather to study our Bibles.
00:57:24.91\00:57:27.58
So were you
able to follow along?
00:57:29.34\00:57:31.35
It's a
fascinating study, isn't it.
00:57:31.71\00:57:33.58
I mean, it's
like detective work.
00:57:33.95\00:57:35.58
It's fun.
00:57:35.62\00:57:36.95
I had a great time
working my way through this.
00:57:37.32\00:57:40.06
And you know, time and again,
Ellen White makes comments
00:57:40.22\00:57:42.86
that you can discover if
you just use these principles.
00:57:42.89\00:57:47.03