Well, what a blessing it is to be at the Anchor Bible school. 00:00:15.15\00:00:18.44 This is session number five. 00:00:18.47\00:00:20.22 It seems like just an hour ago that we began. 00:00:20.53\00:00:23.43 And we're already going to study lesson number five. 00:00:23.46\00:00:26.53 What I want us to deal with at this time is the principle 00:00:27.06\00:00:32.00 that states that the historical flow method is the key that 00:00:32.03\00:00:36.64 must be used in order to understand properly 00:00:36.67\00:00:40.37 Bible prophecy. 00:00:40.40\00:00:41.64 Now I'm not going to follow what we find in the outline. 00:00:41.96\00:00:45.56 You can read what we have in the outline under this point. 00:00:45.89\00:00:49.60 What I'm going to do is present the material that is titled, 00:00:49.96\00:00:52.95 "The Dangers of Futurism." 00:00:52.98\00:00:55.06 And as soon as we finish this material, 00:00:55.38\00:00:57.69 you're going to be able to answer all of the questions 00:00:58.07\00:01:00.71 that are found in the syllabus. 00:01:00.74\00:01:02.28 And so we won't follow the syllabus, but we are going to 00:01:02.48\00:01:05.19 cover the material that is found there in the syllabus. 00:01:05.22\00:01:09.19 And so we are going to take a look at the material 00:01:09.60\00:01:11.69 that is titled, "The Dangers of Futurism." 00:01:11.72\00:01:15.21 At one of our workers meetings recently 00:01:16.18\00:01:18.76 here in the conference that I work in, 00:01:19.16\00:01:21.11 we were discussing the signs that indicate 00:01:21.99\00:01:24.80 that Jesus is soon to come, and that He is even at the door. 00:01:25.17\00:01:28.94 The pastors were presenting different signs in the world 00:01:30.40\00:01:33.74 that indicated that the event is imminent. 00:01:34.08\00:01:36.94 And in the midst of the conversation one of the 00:01:37.78\00:01:39.89 pastors stood up and confidently affirmed, 00:01:39.92\00:01:43.61 "I'm not too concerned about what's coming 00:01:44.00\00:01:46.79 or how He's coming. 00:01:47.49\00:01:50.30 My only concern is who is coming." 00:01:50.56\00:01:54.13 At the time it sounded like a nice sound bite. 00:01:54.65\00:01:57.41 But upon closer reflection, it is a very dangerous thing 00:01:58.21\00:02:03.53 not to know what's coming and how Jesus is coming. 00:02:03.56\00:02:08.77 I might say that several of the pastors said a hearty, "amen," 00:02:09.67\00:02:13.85 to this statement. 00:02:13.88\00:02:15.22 Perhaps thoughtlessly. 00:02:15.51\00:02:17.65 Now some Christians believe that Jesus Christ will return 00:02:18.24\00:02:21.66 before the tribulation. 00:02:21.69\00:02:24.24 Other Christians believe that Jesus will come in the 00:02:24.67\00:02:27.59 middle of the tribulation. 00:02:27.62\00:02:29.34 And others believe that Jesus will come at the end 00:02:29.80\00:02:33.19 of the tribulation period. 00:02:33.29\00:02:35.03 Now as Seventh-day Adventists, we believe that Jesus will come 00:02:35.54\00:02:38.36 at the end of the tribulation period. 00:02:38.39\00:02:40.80 We believe that God's people will go through 00:02:40.83\00:02:43.58 the end time tribulation. 00:02:43.61\00:02:45.56 But most Christians today do not believe that. 00:02:45.85\00:02:49.32 And you might be wondering, who cares whether the 00:02:49.60\00:02:52.35 coming of Jesus is pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib? 00:02:52.38\00:02:57.11 Isn't it only important that Jesus is going to come 00:02:57.14\00:03:00.43 at some point? 00:03:00.46\00:03:01.49 Who cares whether it's before, during, or after 00:03:01.52\00:03:05.01 the tribulation. 00:03:05.04\00:03:06.38 Well, if you tune in your television on Sunday mornings, 00:03:06.92\00:03:11.80 you will receive a steady diet of end time scenarios. 00:03:12.18\00:03:17.24 And all of these end time scenarios 00:03:17.46\00:03:19.53 are very, very similar. 00:03:19.56\00:03:21.56 The predominate one is what we call, futurism. 00:03:22.02\00:03:26.66 It is the standard view of conservative Christians 00:03:27.08\00:03:30.73 such as evangelicals, Baptists, and people of a 00:03:30.76\00:03:34.47 charismatic persuasion. 00:03:34.50\00:03:36.43 Although there are minor variations in details, 00:03:36.77\00:03:40.44 they are in harmony when it comes to the common denominators 00:03:40.71\00:03:45.12 of this view. 00:03:45.15\00:03:46.43 It actually characterizes most of the television evangelists 00:03:46.99\00:03:50.98 that come across the airwaves on Sunday. 00:03:51.02\00:03:54.28 Now what is this futurist view of Bible prophecy 00:03:54.84\00:03:58.65 that has been embraced by most conservative Christians? 00:03:58.75\00:04:02.68 The fundamental view of futurists is that God has 00:04:03.42\00:04:07.57 two radically different plans; 00:04:07.60\00:04:11.25 one for literal Israel and the other for the Christian church. 00:04:11.62\00:04:16.43 In other words, God's plan for the Jews and God's plan 00:04:16.74\00:04:20.23 for the church are radically different from one another, 00:04:20.26\00:04:24.45 and they are mutually exclusive. 00:04:24.48\00:04:26.93 Now I want to share with you what the scenario 00:04:27.86\00:04:30.51 of futurism looks like. 00:04:30.54\00:04:32.66 Basically, the entire scenario is based on their understanding 00:04:33.15\00:04:37.95 of the prophecy of the 70 weeks, as well as their 00:04:38.15\00:04:41.80 understanding of the millennium. 00:04:41.83\00:04:43.30 And we'll deal with the millennium 00:04:43.33\00:04:45.16 a little bit later on. 00:04:45.19\00:04:47.05 You see, for them the 70 weeks are to be understood 00:04:47.33\00:04:50.94 as 490 years, as Seventh-day Adventists believe. 00:04:50.97\00:04:55.43 But they believe that the 70 weeks begin in the days 00:04:55.81\00:04:59.25 of Nehemiah when Nehemiah went to rebuild the wall of Jerusalem 00:04:59.28\00:05:03.91 in the year 445 BC. 00:05:04.11\00:05:06.79 As Adventists, we believe that the 70 weeks begin in 457 BC. 00:05:07.04\00:05:11.39 But they believe that the 70 weeks begin in 445 BC. 00:05:11.46\00:05:16.80 Now, they believe that the first 69 weeks, 00:05:17.42\00:05:21.25 the first 483 years, flow consecutively 00:05:21.28\00:05:26.59 without interruption. 00:05:26.62\00:05:28.20 And they end, according to them, in the year 33 00:05:28.86\00:05:32.48 with the first coming of Jesus. 00:05:32.51\00:05:34.44 Now we know that it's the year 31, but they begin later 00:05:34.47\00:05:38.42 and they end two years later than what Adventists believe. 00:05:38.45\00:05:42.27 Now they teach that when Jesus came, He offered the Jews 00:05:42.72\00:05:47.18 His literal kingdom. 00:05:47.21\00:05:48.86 And the Jewish nation rejected the kingdom 00:05:49.10\00:05:52.72 that Jesus offered them. 00:05:52.75\00:05:54.15 And therefore, Jesus had to go to a plan B. 00:05:54.41\00:05:59.49 Because the Jewish nation rejected the Messiah, 00:06:00.08\00:06:02.95 none of the events of the 70th week could be fulfilled. 00:06:03.20\00:06:07.38 Because Jesus came at the end of the 69th week. 00:06:07.41\00:06:13.31 And so because the Jews rejected Jesus, 00:06:13.66\00:06:16.23 the 70th week could not be fulfilled. 00:06:16.26\00:06:19.79 You see, what they do is they separate week number 70 00:06:20.39\00:06:25.12 from the previous 69 weeks. 00:06:25.15\00:06:28.04 Basically, they say that the first 69 weeks flowed 00:06:28.29\00:06:32.27 and ended with the coming of Jesus in the year 33, 00:06:32.30\00:06:35.88 but then the 70th week could not be fulfilled 00:06:36.14\00:06:39.60 immediately after because the Jews rejected Jesus Christ. 00:06:39.63\00:06:45.51 So what God did was to suspend His plan 00:06:45.79\00:06:49.32 for the literal Jewish nation. 00:06:49.35\00:06:51.14 In other words, He put it on hold. 00:06:51.34\00:06:53.61 Week number 70 was never fulfilled consecutively 00:06:53.86\00:06:57.71 with the first 69 weeks. 00:06:57.74\00:06:59.95 And so they say that during the last twenty centuries 00:07:00.28\00:07:03.13 God has been dealing with the Gentiles, or with the church. 00:07:03.48\00:07:06.30 What they call the church age, 00:07:06.33\00:07:08.35 or the period of the times of the Gentiles. 00:07:08.45\00:07:11.81 The plan for the Jews has been put on hold. 00:07:12.06\00:07:14.88 And for twenty centuries plus, God has been dealing 00:07:15.12\00:07:18.76 with the church. 00:07:18.79\00:07:20.28 And week number 70 has never been fulfilled yet. 00:07:20.31\00:07:24.04 It is severed or separated from the first 69. 00:07:24.07\00:07:28.52 Now, they believe that when the Jewish state was re-established 00:07:29.84\00:07:33.61 in 1948, that this was a very significant event. 00:07:33.64\00:07:38.03 In fact, they believe that this is the most significant event 00:07:38.19\00:07:42.07 that indicates that the coming of Jesus, that the rapture 00:07:42.75\00:07:46.36 is imminent; the re-establishment of the 00:07:46.39\00:07:49.17 nation of Israel in 1948. 00:07:49.20\00:07:51.52 They say, "This is the catalytic event that is going to indicate 00:07:51.55\00:07:56.19 that Jesus is coming very, very soon." 00:07:56.22\00:07:58.41 And then, of course, in the 1967 war when the Jews recovered 00:07:58.51\00:08:03.18 certain portions of territory, they said, 00:08:03.21\00:08:05.88 "This is further evidence that the coming of Jesus in the 00:08:05.91\00:08:09.46 rapture is very imminent and is going to happen very soon." 00:08:09.49\00:08:15.18 So they believe that the plan for the Jews was suspended 00:08:15.87\00:08:19.49 at the end of week number 69, the 70th week was never 00:08:19.52\00:08:23.11 fulfilled immediately after the 69, 00:08:23.14\00:08:26.34 for twenty centuries plus God has suspended His plan 00:08:26.51\00:08:30.74 for the literal Jewish nation, and now He is engrafting 00:08:30.77\00:08:34.20 the Gentiles, which is known as the church age 00:08:34.23\00:08:37.05 or the times of the Gentiles. 00:08:37.08\00:08:39.97 Now they believe that when the times of the Gentiles 00:08:40.85\00:08:43.10 comes to an end, when the church age comes to an end, 00:08:43.13\00:08:47.37 the prophetic clock for Israel will begin to tick again. 00:08:47.87\00:08:52.59 And the 70th week will begin to be fulfilled 00:08:52.86\00:08:56.58 with an interval of over 2000 years between the 00:08:56.61\00:09:00.10 first 69 and the 70th week. 00:09:00.13\00:09:03.49 They believe that the event that will mark the beginning 00:09:04.20\00:09:08.53 of the last week, or the last 7 years of Daniel 9, 00:09:08.56\00:09:12.37 is what they call, the rapture of the church. 00:09:12.57\00:09:16.30 According to them, the times of the Gentiles 00:09:16.64\00:09:18.72 will come to an end, the church age will come to an end, 00:09:18.75\00:09:21.34 when the church is raptured to heaven invisibly. 00:09:21.55\00:09:25.90 People will suddenly vanish, drivers will disappear, 00:09:26.48\00:09:30.62 pilots will vanish, and there will be chaos 00:09:30.65\00:09:33.52 and disorder everywhere. 00:09:33.55\00:09:35.15 Believers will be caught up to heaven. 00:09:35.71\00:09:38.18 And those who are not ready, along with the literal Jews, 00:09:38.49\00:09:42.24 will be left behind. 00:09:42.27\00:09:44.37 Now one of the great proponents of this is called, Hal Lindsey. 00:09:44.86\00:09:48.32 And he calls the rapture, the great snatch. 00:09:48.57\00:09:51.43 He also wrote a book titled, Vanished Into Thin Air. 00:09:51.90\00:09:56.88 In other words, people are going to disappear everywhere 00:09:57.24\00:10:00.27 on planet earth in the rapture. 00:10:00.30\00:10:02.28 They will be taken too heaven with Jesus. 00:10:02.31\00:10:05.39 And then they believe that the Holy Spirit 00:10:06.34\00:10:08.07 will be withdrawn from the earth. 00:10:08.10\00:10:10.16 And the events from Revelation 4 verse 1 to Revelation 19 00:10:10.70\00:10:16.33 will begin to be fulfilled. 00:10:16.43\00:10:18.45 They believe that Revelation 4 verse 1 00:10:19.53\00:10:21.80 where God says to John, "Come up hither," 00:10:21.99\00:10:25.27 that expression, "Come up hither," 00:10:25.37\00:10:27.65 is referring to the rapture. 00:10:27.68\00:10:29.43 That John symbolizes the church, and it's talking about 00:10:29.46\00:10:32.62 the rapture of the church. 00:10:32.65\00:10:34.01 And so they believe that from Revelation 4 verse 1 00:10:34.33\00:10:37.27 all the way through Revelation chapter 19, 00:10:37.65\00:10:40.81 it deals exclusively with the Jews after 00:10:41.06\00:10:45.16 the rapture of the church. 00:10:45.19\00:10:47.45 Now they believe that during the last seven years 00:10:48.00\00:10:50.91 of the prophecy of the 70 weeks, during this last week 00:10:50.94\00:10:54.43 of the 70 week prophecy, at the beginning 00:10:54.46\00:10:57.99 a personal antichrist, an individual, will rise to power. 00:10:58.02\00:11:02.38 And he will rule over a ten nation Roman federation. 00:11:02.80\00:11:07.72 Which they understand to be the ten horns of Daniel 7 00:11:08.31\00:11:12.70 and the ten horns that we find in Revelation chapter 12 00:11:12.80\00:11:17.78 and Revelation chapter 13. 00:11:17.81\00:11:20.03 And so they believe that this antichrist will rise to power. 00:11:20.29\00:11:23.72 And during the first 1260 days of his dominion 00:11:23.99\00:11:28.62 things will go quite well for the Jews. 00:11:29.07\00:11:31.61 In fact, he's going to sign a peace treaty with the Jews, 00:11:32.00\00:11:36.06 and he will favor them. 00:11:36.39\00:11:38.37 He will rebuild the Jewish temple. 00:11:38.88\00:11:40.94 And the sacrificial system will be re-established, 00:11:41.21\00:11:44.60 and all will appear to be well. 00:11:44.63\00:11:47.38 But low and behold, what the Jews don't realize is that 00:11:48.34\00:11:50.81 this individual, this nice person during these 00:11:50.84\00:11:53.36 three and a half years, is the antichrist. 00:11:53.39\00:11:55.89 But he's hidden his identity. 00:11:55.92\00:11:57.89 At the beginning of the final 42 months... 00:11:58.68\00:12:00.84 Because they separate the 1260 days from the 42 months. 00:12:00.87\00:12:04.27 They take the 42 months to be the last three and a half years 00:12:04.89\00:12:07.76 of the 70 week prophecy. 00:12:07.79\00:12:09.49 So after the 42 literal months... 00:12:09.59\00:12:11.78 Or at the beginning, rather, of the 42 months, 00:12:11.81\00:12:14.66 the ruler of the ten nation federation, who is the 00:12:14.92\00:12:17.44 antichrist, will unveil himself and will reveal his true colors. 00:12:17.47\00:12:22.98 Low and behold, he is the predicted antichrist 00:12:23.01\00:12:26.43 of Scripture. 00:12:26.46\00:12:27.67 He will be a blasphemous individual. 00:12:27.91\00:12:29.77 He will blaspheme Christ and he will persecute the Jews. 00:12:29.80\00:12:34.93 He will sit in a literal Jerusalem temple 00:12:35.23\00:12:38.13 that has been rebuilt, and will have a literal image 00:12:38.16\00:12:41.32 built of himself. 00:12:41.35\00:12:42.67 And he will command everyone to bow down and worship 00:12:42.70\00:12:45.84 the literal image. 00:12:45.87\00:12:47.14 And whoever doesn't worship will be killed. 00:12:47.17\00:12:50.17 He will put a tattoo on the forehead or on the right hand 00:12:50.58\00:12:55.04 of individuals who do not worship the beast or his image. 00:12:55.07\00:13:00.46 They teach that during this time 144,000 converted Jews 00:13:00.85\00:13:06.37 will become Billy Grahams and will preach against 00:13:06.58\00:13:10.60 the antichrist and launch a merciless persecution 00:13:10.63\00:13:15.36 against the Jews. 00:13:15.39\00:13:17.68 This will be the time of Jacob's trouble. 00:13:17.71\00:13:20.66 They believe that during this time literal Moses and Elijah 00:13:21.28\00:13:25.38 will resurrect. 00:13:25.41\00:13:26.55 And then they will be killed for witnessing 00:13:26.71\00:13:29.54 against the antichrist. 00:13:29.57\00:13:31.39 At the end of the 42 months, or the last week of Daniel 9, 00:13:31.91\00:13:35.71 the antichrist will come to his ignominious end. 00:13:36.63\00:13:42.21 Jesus will come gloriously, literally, and visibly 00:13:42.24\00:13:46.10 from heaven with those that He took to heaven 00:13:46.13\00:13:48.88 seven years before. 00:13:48.91\00:13:50.40 And He will destroy the antichrist 00:13:50.43\00:13:52.64 and He will deliver literal Israel from the time 00:13:52.67\00:13:56.87 of Jacob's trouble. 00:13:57.00\00:13:58.52 Then Jesus will establish on earth His literal kingdom 00:13:58.96\00:14:03.39 for a thousand years, a millennium, 00:14:03.42\00:14:05.92 and people will live here in their mortal state 00:14:05.95\00:14:08.96 and Jesus will rule them with a rod of iron. 00:14:08.99\00:14:13.19 So is the futurist scenario that is being fed 00:14:13.65\00:14:17.42 to millions of people every Sunday morning on television. 00:14:17.45\00:14:21.85 And it is believed as gospel truth by conservative 00:14:21.88\00:14:25.98 Christians all over the world. 00:14:26.01\00:14:29.12 Now let's ask as Seventh-day Adventists, what implications 00:14:30.44\00:14:33.90 does this interpretation of prophecy have for us? 00:14:33.93\00:14:37.10 I have several things that we're going to take a look at. 00:14:37.51\00:14:39.93 It has severe implications for Seventh-day Adventist theology, 00:14:39.96\00:14:44.77 Seventh-day Adventist mission, and the very existence 00:14:44.80\00:14:48.06 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 00:14:48.09\00:14:49.93 So let's take a look at a few things that happen 00:14:50.25\00:14:54.37 with Adventist interpretation when we adopt, 00:14:54.40\00:14:57.63 or if we should adopt, the futurist scenario. 00:14:57.66\00:15:00.75 Point number one, if the fulfillment 00:15:01.17\00:15:05.33 of Revelation 4 through 19 is future with literal Israel 00:15:05.36\00:15:11.74 after the church is gone from earth, 00:15:12.52\00:15:14.84 what relevance do the three angels' messages have today? 00:15:15.39\00:15:18.88 None. 00:15:19.64\00:15:20.87 Because if Revelation 4 through 19 00:15:21.99\00:15:24.20 is going to be fulfilled in the future with the literal Jews 00:15:24.23\00:15:26.92 after the church has gone to heaven, 00:15:26.95\00:15:28.75 the three angels' messages apply to that time, 00:15:29.52\00:15:33.08 not to this time. 00:15:33.11\00:15:34.28 So what the devil is telling people, 00:15:34.88\00:15:36.47 and I've had people tell me this in Revelation seminars, 00:15:36.50\00:15:38.87 they say, "Well we don't worry about Revelation 14. 00:15:39.11\00:15:41.56 That happens after the rapture." 00:15:41.59\00:15:43.22 And so what has happened, the devil has muted 00:15:43.92\00:15:46.60 the very central message of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 00:15:46.70\00:15:49.82 Ellen White has expressed the importance of the 00:15:50.12\00:15:53.25 three angels' messages. 00:15:53.28\00:15:54.32 Let's read these statements. 00:15:54.35\00:15:56.39 The first is in volume 6 of the Testimonies, pages 17 and 18. 00:15:56.42\00:16:00.91 She says, "The three angels of Revelation 14 are represented 00:16:01.27\00:16:05.48 as flying in the midst of heaven, 00:16:05.51\00:16:07.36 symbolizing the work of those who proclaim the 00:16:07.66\00:16:10.42 first, second, and third angels' messages. 00:16:10.45\00:16:13.67 All are linked together. 00:16:14.08\00:16:16.09 The evidences of the abiding, ever living truth of these 00:16:16.39\00:16:19.95 grand messages that mean so much to the church, 00:16:19.98\00:16:24.04 that have awakened such intense opposition 00:16:24.30\00:16:27.10 from the religious world, are not extinct." 00:16:27.13\00:16:30.29 Now listen carefully to this. 00:16:30.70\00:16:33.17 "Satan is constantly seeking to cast a shadow 00:16:33.20\00:16:36.94 about these messages, so that the people of God shall not 00:16:36.97\00:16:41.09 clearly discern..." Three things. 00:16:41.12\00:16:43.47 Their what? "...their import..." 00:16:44.23\00:16:46.77 What is meant by the word, "import?" 00:16:46.80\00:16:48.23 Their importance. 00:16:48.81\00:16:50.76 What's the second thing? 00:16:51.66\00:16:53.03 "...their time..." 00:16:53.47\00:16:54.51 That is, when they're fulfilled. 00:16:54.54\00:16:56.46 And what? "...place." 00:16:56.49\00:16:58.86 Where. 00:16:58.89\00:16:59.92 When, where, and their importance. 00:16:59.95\00:17:03.55 The devil is trying to cast a shadow over them. 00:17:03.58\00:17:06.12 And she continues saying, "But they live and are to exert 00:17:06.48\00:17:10.27 their power upon our religious experience 00:17:10.30\00:17:12.63 while time shall last." 00:17:12.66\00:17:14.87 Praise the Lord for that. 00:17:14.90\00:17:16.06 In another statement that we find in, Early Writings, 00:17:16.95\00:17:19.24 page 256, this is a significant statement. 00:17:19.27\00:17:22.28 You know, Ellen White says that most Adventists are 00:17:22.31\00:17:24.53 going to forsake the three angels' messages. 00:17:24.56\00:17:26.62 But there will be no decrease in the people that are 00:17:28.07\00:17:31.38 in God's ranks because multitudes will come into 00:17:31.41\00:17:33.78 the Adventist church. 00:17:33.81\00:17:34.99 She says this, "Many who embraced the third message 00:17:36.21\00:17:40.03 had not had an experience in the former two messages." 00:17:40.51\00:17:43.64 This is talking about 1844. 00:17:44.99\00:17:46.66 See, the Millerites proclaimed the first two, 00:17:46.69\00:17:49.89 and there were people who were being converted 00:17:50.59\00:17:52.34 that had not had the experience in the first two. 00:17:52.37\00:17:54.36 Now notice Satan's reaction. 00:17:54.39\00:17:56.03 "Satan understood this, and his evil eye was upon them 00:17:56.13\00:18:01.15 to overthrow them; but the third angel was pointing them 00:18:01.18\00:18:04.74 to the most holy place, and those who had had an experience 00:18:04.77\00:18:08.47 in the past messages were pointing them the way 00:18:08.50\00:18:11.53 to the heavenly sanctuary." 00:18:11.56\00:18:12.97 Because we're going to notice that the third angel's message 00:18:13.00\00:18:15.06 is closely related with the Most Holy Place 00:18:15.27\00:18:17.87 of the Sanctuary. 00:18:17.90\00:18:18.93 And then she says this, "Many saw the perfect 00:18:18.96\00:18:22.63 chain of truth in the angels' messages, 00:18:22.66\00:18:25.83 and gladly received them..." How? 00:18:25.86\00:18:28.31 "...in their order..." 00:18:28.60\00:18:30.19 Don't preach number three before you preach number one. 00:18:30.22\00:18:32.38 "...in their order, and followed Jesus by faith 00:18:33.10\00:18:36.64 into the heavenly sanctuary." 00:18:36.67\00:18:38.35 And now she says this, "These messages 00:18:38.55\00:18:41.65 were represented to me as an anchor..." 00:18:41.68\00:18:45.47 This is one of the places where we got our name from. 00:18:46.57\00:18:49.01 "...as an anchor to the people of God." 00:18:49.65\00:18:52.68 And then she states, "Those who understand 00:18:53.36\00:18:56.13 and receive them will be kept from being swept away 00:18:56.84\00:19:02.01 by the many delusions of Satan." 00:19:02.04\00:19:04.17 How important are the three angels' messages? 00:19:04.20\00:19:06.42 "If you do not understand and receive them, 00:19:06.88\00:19:10.02 you will be deceived by the devil," is what she's saying. 00:19:10.05\00:19:12.91 And so they're vitally important. 00:19:13.29\00:19:14.45 So what does the devil say? 00:19:14.48\00:19:15.63 The devil says, "No, those don't apply to now. 00:19:15.66\00:19:18.10 Those are for the Jews during the tribulation. 00:19:18.46\00:19:21.52 Don't worry, folks, everything is okay." 00:19:21.66\00:19:24.05 Because the devil wants to mute the importance 00:19:24.68\00:19:27.80 of these messages. 00:19:27.90\00:19:29.05 So that's the first thing that futurism does 00:19:29.08\00:19:32.14 to the message of the Adventist church. 00:19:32.17\00:19:34.46 But there's a second point. 00:19:34.49\00:19:35.85 Futurism changes the time for the appearance 00:19:36.72\00:19:40.95 of the antichrist. 00:19:40.98\00:19:42.39 It changes the timing. 00:19:42.56\00:19:44.24 You see, for us as Adventists the antichrist appeared 00:19:45.52\00:19:49.27 immediately after the Roman Empire was divided 00:19:49.30\00:19:52.42 into ten kingdoms, right? 00:19:52.45\00:19:53.88 It's simple. 00:19:54.21\00:19:55.24 Lion, Babylon; bear, Medo-Persia; 00:19:55.54\00:19:58.66 leopard, Greece; dragon beast, Rome; 00:19:58.69\00:20:01.50 ten horns, Rome divided. 00:20:01.71\00:20:03.89 And then among the ten, the little horn 00:20:03.92\00:20:05.98 immediately afterwards. 00:20:06.28\00:20:07.71 It's quite simple. 00:20:07.74\00:20:09.13 And so we know that the timing of the rising of antichrist 00:20:10.04\00:20:13.62 was shortly after the demise of the Roman Empire. 00:20:13.65\00:20:17.06 It would arise where the Roman Empire had been divided 00:20:17.09\00:20:20.59 among those kingdoms. 00:20:20.62\00:20:22.14 And we know that this antichrist would rule for 1260 years, 00:20:22.66\00:20:28.67 beginning in 538 and ending in 1798 with a deadly wound 00:20:28.70\00:20:34.66 that was given by France. 00:20:34.69\00:20:37.06 But now listen carefully. 00:20:37.93\00:20:39.42 If the antichrist did not appear shortly after the Roman Empire 00:20:41.92\00:20:47.07 disintegrated, he is still in the future. 00:20:47.17\00:20:50.64 Right? 00:20:51.75\00:20:52.80 Because that's the way they do. 00:20:53.45\00:20:54.81 They also create a gap. 00:20:54.84\00:20:56.63 See, this futurism is a gap theology. 00:20:56.66\00:21:00.61 There's a gap between week 69 and week 70. 00:21:01.19\00:21:04.55 And they say that Daniel 7 was fulfilled in sequence 00:21:04.77\00:21:10.79 until you get to the fourth beast. 00:21:10.82\00:21:13.10 And then they say that Rome was never divided. 00:21:14.09\00:21:17.24 Now I don't know how they can reach that conclusion, 00:21:17.27\00:21:19.11 but they say that part of the prophecy was not fulfilled. 00:21:19.14\00:21:21.71 And of course, the little horn was not fulfilled either. 00:21:22.45\00:21:24.62 So there's a gap between the legs and the feet 00:21:24.65\00:21:28.28 of over 2000 years. 00:21:28.82\00:21:30.84 Because they don't see the historical flow method, 00:21:31.87\00:21:34.44 how prophecy flows without gaps and without interruptions. 00:21:34.47\00:21:39.27 And so, if the antichrist did not appear in the 00:21:39.39\00:21:42.92 sequence of this prophecy, then the antichrist is still future. 00:21:42.95\00:21:47.77 And if the antichrist is still future, the papacy has 00:21:47.87\00:21:51.13 nothing to do with the fulfillment of the 00:21:51.16\00:21:53.02 prophecy of Daniel 7. 00:21:53.05\00:21:54.53 And therefore, the papacy has nothing to do with the 00:21:57.07\00:21:59.35 change in God's holy law. 00:21:59.38\00:22:01.13 Are you understanding this? 00:22:02.30\00:22:03.67 Your interpretation of prophecy has huge implications. 00:22:03.70\00:22:08.07 You know, people say, "Oh don't study, 00:22:08.43\00:22:09.57 don't talk to me about prophecy. 00:22:09.60\00:22:10.74 Talk to me about the love of Jesus." 00:22:10.77\00:22:12.70 Well, talking about prophecy is talking about the love of Jesus. 00:22:13.21\00:22:16.17 Because Jesus loves you, He doesn't want you to be deceived. 00:22:16.20\00:22:18.89 He wants people to be saved. 00:22:20.04\00:22:21.17 But for that, we have to know Bible prophecy. 00:22:21.20\00:22:24.05 You see, futurists say that Daniel 2 was fulfilled how? 00:22:25.24\00:22:30.00 Actually, it's fulfilled with a gap between the 00:22:32.63\00:22:35.93 feet and the legs. 00:22:35.96\00:22:39.19 They say that the head of gold is Babylon, 00:22:40.64\00:22:42.50 the breast and arms of silver is the Medes and Persians, 00:22:42.53\00:22:44.81 the belly of bronze is Greece, 00:22:44.84\00:22:46.30 the legs of iron are the Roman Empire. 00:22:46.33\00:22:48.14 But then they say that the flow of prophecy is suspended. 00:22:48.17\00:22:51.05 The ten toes represent a ten nation federation that will 00:22:51.55\00:22:54.42 arise in the future under the leadership of antichrist. 00:22:54.45\00:22:57.49 And so there's a 2000 year gap between the feet and the legs. 00:22:57.69\00:23:01.81 Who does that hide from view? 00:23:03.79\00:23:05.52 The Roman Catholic Papacy. 00:23:06.26\00:23:07.90 That's right. 00:23:07.93\00:23:09.04 So secondly, the second big problem with this view 00:23:09.61\00:23:13.37 is that it hides the specific time when the 00:23:13.82\00:23:18.73 antichrist would arise. 00:23:18.76\00:23:20.22 Point number three, futurism changes the place 00:23:20.54\00:23:24.52 for the appearance of the antichrist. 00:23:24.55\00:23:26.49 The place. 00:23:26.52\00:23:27.77 You see, for us the antichrist is a counterfeit system 00:23:28.12\00:23:33.85 of Christianity that arose in the church shortly after 00:23:33.88\00:23:38.50 the disintegration of the Roman Empire. 00:23:38.53\00:23:40.42 And we believe that the temple where 00:23:40.99\00:23:42.77 the antichrist sits is what? 00:23:42.80\00:23:45.28 Is the church. 00:23:45.40\00:23:46.43 We talked about that. 00:23:46.46\00:23:47.49 It's the church. 00:23:47.52\00:23:48.84 And we believe that this temple is not a literal temple 00:23:49.08\00:23:52.30 in the Middle East. 00:23:52.33\00:23:53.36 It is the church of the Middles Ages. 00:23:53.39\00:23:56.96 The temple is the Christian church. 00:23:57.29\00:23:59.13 But what does futurism believe? 00:24:00.01\00:24:01.91 Futurism believes that the antichrist is going to sit 00:24:02.34\00:24:05.33 in a literal rebuilt Jewish temple after the rapture 00:24:05.36\00:24:09.44 for three and a half literal years. 00:24:09.47\00:24:11.59 If this is the case, then prophecy is not 00:24:12.42\00:24:14.55 fulfilled in Rome. 00:24:14.58\00:24:15.88 Prophecy is fulfilled in the Middle East. 00:24:16.08\00:24:18.20 Thus the fulfillment of the prophecy in the papacy 00:24:19.07\00:24:21.69 is hidden from view because people are looking 00:24:21.72\00:24:24.50 in the wrong place. 00:24:24.53\00:24:25.80 Are you understanding this point? 00:24:27.20\00:24:28.61 It's a serious implication. 00:24:29.17\00:24:30.76 If you believe in futurism, well you're saying, 00:24:31.54\00:24:34.07 "Well, it's going to be a future antichrist 00:24:34.10\00:24:36.24 who will sit in a rebuilt Jewish temple over in the Middle East. 00:24:36.27\00:24:39.67 This is after the rapture of the church." 00:24:39.70\00:24:41.59 And so what happens? 00:24:42.30\00:24:43.56 What is hidden from view is that the real antichrist 00:24:44.49\00:24:47.79 arose in Rome, and you can't see this because you're looking 00:24:47.82\00:24:51.45 in the wrong place. 00:24:51.48\00:24:52.51 You're looking to the Middle East instead of looking in Rome. 00:24:52.61\00:24:56.64 Point number four, futurism hides the manner 00:24:58.28\00:25:03.03 of the appearance of the antichrist, 00:25:03.06\00:25:04.87 the way in which the antichrist will appear. 00:25:04.90\00:25:07.43 You see, Adventists, along with the Protestant reformers, 00:25:08.08\00:25:10.75 believe that the antichrist is a system of counterfeit 00:25:10.95\00:25:13.96 Christianity that sat in the spiritual temple of God, 00:25:13.99\00:25:18.39 which is the church. 00:25:18.42\00:25:19.81 And as I mentioned, Paul constantly mentions that 00:25:20.40\00:25:23.54 the temple of God is the church. 00:25:23.74\00:25:26.27 It is not a literal temple in the Middle East. 00:25:26.30\00:25:29.72 Now, if the antichrist will be an individual, 00:25:30.09\00:25:33.15 then he cannot be a worldwide system. 00:25:34.19\00:25:36.30 If he is a blasphemous atheist, as many are teaching, 00:25:36.97\00:25:41.69 then the Christian church has nothing to do with the 00:25:42.28\00:25:44.40 fulfillment of these prophecies. 00:25:44.43\00:25:46.32 So does futurism teach something that hides the 00:25:47.09\00:25:51.33 manner or the way in which the antichrist will appear? 00:25:51.36\00:25:54.32 Sure, they're expecting a blasphemous antichrist 00:25:54.75\00:25:58.03 over in the Middle East after the rapture of the church. 00:25:58.13\00:26:02.68 So they're looking in the wrong place. 00:26:03.10\00:26:04.75 But they're also looking in the wrong way. 00:26:04.78\00:26:06.93 Because Scripture says that the antichrist, 00:26:07.60\00:26:09.75 the manner of his coming will be, he'll sit in the church 00:26:09.78\00:26:12.59 claiming to be Christ. 00:26:12.62\00:26:14.55 He will arise from within. 00:26:14.94\00:26:16.38 In other words, he's an insider. 00:26:18.97\00:26:20.97 Now let's notice what Dave Hunt has to say. 00:26:22.56\00:26:24.72 By the way, Dave Hunt is a dyed-in-the-wool futurist. 00:26:24.75\00:26:27.64 But he got the identity of antichrist right. 00:26:29.15\00:26:31.98 Listen to his description of the antichrist. 00:26:33.13\00:26:35.61 He says, "While the Greek prefix, 'anti,' generally means, 00:26:36.75\00:26:41.43 'against or opposed to,' it can also mean, 00:26:41.46\00:26:45.31 'in the place of or a substitute for.'" 00:26:45.34\00:26:48.27 For example, the word, "antipas." 00:26:49.34\00:26:50.97 Have you ever heard of Herod Antipas? 00:26:51.00\00:26:53.05 Do you know what, "anti pas," means? 00:26:53.42\00:26:55.71 It means that he ruled in place of his father. 00:26:56.68\00:26:58.76 The word, "pas," is, "father," 00:26:58.79\00:27:00.23 and, "anti," is, "in place of." 00:27:00.26\00:27:01.90 He ruled in place of his father. 00:27:01.93\00:27:03.52 So anti does not mean, against. 00:27:05.16\00:27:07.34 Anti means, in place of. 00:27:07.37\00:27:09.68 So he continues saying, "The antichrist 00:27:09.78\00:27:12.54 will embody both meanings. 00:27:12.57\00:27:14.34 He will oppose Christ while pretending to be Christ. 00:27:14.74\00:27:18.01 Instead of a frontal attack or assault against Christianity, 00:27:18.72\00:27:22.31 the evil one will pervert the church from within 00:27:22.51\00:27:25.76 by posing as its founder. 00:27:26.28\00:27:28.07 He will cunningly misrepresent Christ 00:27:28.47\00:27:30.89 while pretending to be Christ." 00:27:30.92\00:27:32.69 And here comes something very interesting. 00:27:32.89\00:27:34.77 "And right here is where the plot thickens. 00:27:34.80\00:27:37.87 If the antichrist will indeed pretend to be the Christ, 00:27:37.90\00:27:41.12 then his followers must be Christians." 00:27:41.15\00:27:43.96 So Dave Hunt is a futurist, but he got it right. 00:27:46.15\00:27:48.41 Most futurists believe that the antichrist 00:27:48.44\00:27:50.58 is a nasty individual, an atheist, who's going to 00:27:50.61\00:27:53.12 appear in the Middle East, raise his hand against God, 00:27:53.15\00:27:55.62 and he's going to blaspheme the God of heaven. 00:27:55.65\00:27:57.53 Some atheist type. 00:27:58.05\00:27:59.52 But Scripture doesn't teach that. 00:28:00.12\00:28:01.61 Scripture teaches that he will arise from within. 00:28:01.92\00:28:03.99 That is his manner of appearance. 00:28:04.02\00:28:06.11 So does the manner of the appearance of antichrist 00:28:07.04\00:28:09.42 have anything to do with being deceived concerning this? 00:28:09.45\00:28:12.25 It most certainly does. 00:28:12.67\00:28:14.17 Now the next point is that futurism, this is number five, 00:28:15.32\00:28:18.54 futurism changes the parties in the final conflict. 00:28:18.74\00:28:22.44 Who are the two groups that will be involved 00:28:22.79\00:28:25.17 in the final conflict? 00:28:25.20\00:28:26.63 You see, as Adventists we believe that on one side 00:28:26.84\00:28:29.36 there will be the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet. 00:28:29.39\00:28:31.82 The dragon represents Satan, yes, but working through 00:28:32.26\00:28:34.82 the civil powers of the world. 00:28:34.85\00:28:36.37 The beast represents the Roman Catholic Papacy. 00:28:36.86\00:28:39.57 And the false prophet represents apostate Protestantism. 00:28:40.03\00:28:45.19 And we believe that these three powers will be 00:28:45.22\00:28:48.24 global in scope. 00:28:48.27\00:28:49.76 Those will be the enemies of God's people in the end time. 00:28:49.79\00:28:53.48 But what does futurism believe? 00:28:54.97\00:28:57.18 Futurism sees it differently. 00:28:57.61\00:28:59.53 They say that the final battle will be between 00:29:00.05\00:29:02.45 the Jews and the Arabs in the Middle East. 00:29:02.48\00:29:05.38 And perhaps the Arabs and the Muslims are going to 00:29:05.91\00:29:08.16 join with the Russians to persecute the Jews. 00:29:08.19\00:29:11.65 If this is true, then we're wrong in saying that the 00:29:11.94\00:29:16.46 parties in the controversy are the dragon, the beast, 00:29:16.49\00:29:19.97 and the false prophet against all of those who are 00:29:20.00\00:29:23.15 opposed to the kingdom of Christ. 00:29:23.18\00:29:25.05 In other words, futurism gets the parties involved 00:29:25.58\00:29:29.45 in the final conflict wrong. 00:29:29.48\00:29:31.41 And so people are looking for this war in the Middle East 00:29:31.67\00:29:36.02 where, you know, the antichrist is going to be joining the Arabs 00:29:36.05\00:29:40.55 and is going to be joining the Russians, 00:29:40.58\00:29:42.07 and perhaps the Chinese, to war against literal Israel, 00:29:42.10\00:29:45.73 to war against the Jews. 00:29:45.76\00:29:47.22 And meanwhile, the antichrist sits in Rome. 00:29:47.44\00:29:50.69 And the United States, the helper, is taking 00:29:51.41\00:29:55.30 steps to help this power. 00:29:55.33\00:29:57.18 And nobody can see it because they're looking 00:29:57.21\00:29:59.52 in the wrong place. 00:29:59.55\00:30:00.92 The devil is an expert at what we call, the counter play. 00:30:02.34\00:30:05.35 Do you know what the counter play is? 00:30:05.38\00:30:06.90 Some of you might know a little bit about football. 00:30:07.58\00:30:10.06 I'm not talking about Australian rules football. 00:30:10.52\00:30:12.75 I'm talking about football as it is played in the United States. 00:30:12.78\00:30:15.98 The counter play is very simple. 00:30:16.01\00:30:17.77 See, the linemen, they block for the back. 00:30:18.14\00:30:20.75 For the runner. 00:30:21.15\00:30:22.21 And so what usually happens is the linemen will pull 00:30:22.80\00:30:26.45 in one direction to block when the runner is 00:30:26.48\00:30:29.18 going to come to that side. 00:30:29.21\00:30:30.67 But the counter play is when all of the linemen 00:30:30.85\00:30:33.76 run this way, then the defense says, 00:30:33.79\00:30:36.11 "Oh, the runner is coming this way." 00:30:36.14\00:30:37.94 And then the runner goes the opposite direction. 00:30:37.97\00:30:40.00 That's the counter play. 00:30:40.39\00:30:41.59 And so the devil is an expert at creating counter plays; 00:30:42.02\00:30:46.44 showing the antichrist in the wrong place, 00:30:46.54\00:30:49.48 appearing in the wrong way, 00:30:50.19\00:30:51.90 saying that the parties are not the parties that 00:30:52.98\00:30:55.46 prophecy says they are. 00:30:55.49\00:30:57.34 But let me say that futurism also blurs the issues involved 00:30:58.57\00:31:02.48 in the final conflict. 00:31:02.51\00:31:04.01 As Seventh-day Adventists, we believe that the issues 00:31:04.52\00:31:06.85 in the final conflict will be the law, the Sabbath, 00:31:06.88\00:31:12.51 and worship. 00:31:13.05\00:31:14.36 But what futurism believes is that the war 00:31:15.54\00:31:19.76 that is going to take place will be in the Middle East 00:31:19.79\00:31:22.89 and it will be primarily an anti-Semitic war. 00:31:22.99\00:31:26.50 In other words, it's a war against the Jews. 00:31:27.77\00:31:30.67 Now let me ask you, are there good and bad Jews? 00:31:32.59\00:31:35.64 Yes. Are there good and bad Arabs? 00:31:37.67\00:31:39.56 So if you say that the final war is the Arabs against the Jews, 00:31:40.36\00:31:46.37 you're saying that it's good people and bad people against 00:31:46.80\00:31:49.17 good people and bad people. 00:31:49.20\00:31:50.85 The fact is that Scripture teaches that the final war 00:31:51.77\00:31:54.71 will be the righteous against the unrighteous. 00:31:54.74\00:31:57.24 And it doesn't matter which ethnic group you belong to. 00:31:57.44\00:32:00.28 The issues are spiritual. 00:32:00.31\00:32:02.14 They have nothing to do with what your ethnicity is. 00:32:02.39\00:32:05.78 And it has nothing to do with the oil of the Middle East, 00:32:05.98\00:32:10.45 which is one of the favorite topics of those who 00:32:10.48\00:32:12.89 teach futurism; that the final war is going to be 00:32:12.92\00:32:15.28 a fight over oil or it's going to be a fight 00:32:15.31\00:32:17.88 of the Arabs against the Jews. 00:32:17.91\00:32:19.55 It totally misses the point that the struggle is going to be 00:32:19.58\00:32:23.05 over God's law, over His holy Sabbath, 00:32:23.08\00:32:25.76 and over the issue of spiritual worship. 00:32:25.79\00:32:29.16 It hides the issues in the great controversy. 00:32:29.67\00:32:34.06 Point number seven, futurism obliterates the end time 00:32:34.67\00:32:39.58 appearance of the remnant church. 00:32:39.61\00:32:41.51 See, the devil wants to hide when the 00:32:41.80\00:32:43.68 Seventh-day Adventist Church was going to appear. 00:32:43.71\00:32:45.77 Let me just give you this scenario 00:32:46.40\00:32:49.22 coming from Revelation chapter 12. 00:32:49.48\00:32:51.53 In Revelation chapter 12, we have a clear flow 00:32:52.03\00:32:55.11 of historical events. 00:32:55.14\00:32:56.52 We have, first of all, a woman. 00:32:56.77\00:32:59.29 The woman has a child in her womb. 00:33:00.13\00:33:02.43 Now let me ask you, who is that child who is in the 00:33:03.60\00:33:05.92 womb of the woman? 00:33:05.95\00:33:06.98 The child is Christ. 00:33:07.38\00:33:08.78 And who is the woman? 00:33:08.81\00:33:10.28 The woman is not Mary there. 00:33:11.78\00:33:14.18 The woman represents the church. 00:33:14.21\00:33:16.56 Which church? 00:33:16.59\00:33:17.74 New Testament church or Old Testament church? 00:33:17.77\00:33:20.27 It's got to be the Old Testament church. 00:33:20.61\00:33:22.55 Because we can't have a New Testament church 00:33:22.75\00:33:24.86 before Jesus is born. 00:33:24.89\00:33:26.30 So let me ask you a dumb question. 00:33:27.16\00:33:28.88 Who lives first, the woman or the child? 00:33:29.16\00:33:32.02 Of course, it's the woman. 00:33:33.45\00:33:34.65 Did the woman exist before the child? 00:33:34.76\00:33:36.62 Of course. 00:33:36.65\00:33:37.70 Did Jesus come from the lineage of Abraham? 00:33:37.83\00:33:40.84 Did He come from the lineage of David? 00:33:41.15\00:33:43.97 Did He come from the holy line? Yes. 00:33:44.25\00:33:46.60 The woman represents the Old Testament church 00:33:46.63\00:33:49.88 that brings Jesus Christ into the world. 00:33:49.91\00:33:52.33 So Revelation 12 begins with the Old Testament church. 00:33:52.75\00:33:55.70 Then the child is born. 00:33:55.88\00:33:57.57 That's the birth of Christ. 00:33:57.60\00:33:58.89 Then it says that He ascends to God and to His throne. 00:33:59.09\00:34:01.97 That's the ascension and the installment of Jesus 00:34:02.17\00:34:04.71 in heaven as our High Priest. 00:34:04.74\00:34:06.39 And then after that, we find the church fleeing to the wilderness 00:34:06.87\00:34:11.94 for 1260 years. 00:34:11.97\00:34:14.42 Are you seeing the flow? 00:34:14.45\00:34:15.63 And towards the end of the 1260 years, 00:34:16.06\00:34:19.00 the earth helps the woman. 00:34:19.03\00:34:21.02 Now what is represented by the earth that helps the woman 00:34:22.06\00:34:24.99 as this period of persecution is taking place? 00:34:25.19\00:34:28.27 The earth represents the territory of the United States. 00:34:28.81\00:34:32.26 Now in Revelation 13 you have a beast that rises from the earth. 00:34:32.66\00:34:35.59 That's the nation that rises from it. 00:34:35.62\00:34:37.42 And I hope you read the book on Jekyll and Hyde. 00:34:37.59\00:34:41.57 Did you read that book? 00:34:41.60\00:34:42.67 You know, there I show that the earth represents 00:34:43.71\00:34:46.91 the territory of the United States 00:34:47.40\00:34:49.03 before the nation is formed. 00:34:49.06\00:34:50.49 Was this a refuge for people who were persecuted in Europe? 00:34:50.61\00:34:54.03 Yes it was. 00:34:54.35\00:34:55.38 During toward the end of this period, people migrated 00:34:55.41\00:34:58.37 to the United States to find freedom, 00:34:58.40\00:35:00.63 liberty of conscience to worship God according to the 00:35:00.66\00:35:03.15 dictates of their conscience. 00:35:03.18\00:35:04.85 So in other words, towards the end of this period 00:35:05.27\00:35:07.50 the earth helps the woman, the territory of the United States. 00:35:07.53\00:35:10.51 And then I want you to notice that the very next stage 00:35:10.99\00:35:14.06 is that the dragon is enraged with the woman. 00:35:14.09\00:35:18.20 And he goes to make war with the remnant of her seed. 00:35:19.34\00:35:23.66 So let me ask you, when would we expect the 00:35:25.35\00:35:27.54 remnant church to arise? 00:35:27.57\00:35:29.35 Would it have to be after the 1260 years? 00:35:30.74\00:35:33.34 After the earth helped the woman? 00:35:34.03\00:35:35.77 Absolutely. 00:35:35.80\00:35:36.98 It would have to arise shortly after that. 00:35:37.34\00:35:39.12 You're not going to have a gap of several hundred years, no. 00:35:39.15\00:35:41.93 Because prophecy is fulfilled in sequence. 00:35:41.96\00:35:45.07 That's the historical flow method, in other words. 00:35:45.28\00:35:48.09 So after the 1260 years, it says that the dragon is now 00:35:48.34\00:35:52.72 wroth with the woman and goes to make war 00:35:52.75\00:35:55.44 with the remnant of her seed. 00:35:55.47\00:35:56.95 Where are the remnant of her seed to be found? 00:35:56.98\00:35:58.95 On the earth. 00:35:58.98\00:36:00.01 Because the previous verse says the earth. 00:36:00.23\00:36:02.12 Where is the earth? 00:36:02.69\00:36:03.85 The territory of the United States. 00:36:04.30\00:36:05.99 Would it be after 1798? 00:36:06.43\00:36:08.63 Yes it would. In the sequence. 00:36:09.14\00:36:10.90 And what would characterize the remnant church? 00:36:11.00\00:36:14.12 Oh, they keep the commandments of God. 00:36:14.43\00:36:17.60 How many? Ten. 00:36:18.59\00:36:21.24 And they have the testimony of Jesus Christ. 00:36:21.27\00:36:24.37 And what is the testimony of Jesus Christ? 00:36:24.60\00:36:26.55 It is the spirit of prophecy. 00:36:26.81\00:36:29.37 The question is, did such a church arise after 1798 00:36:30.61\00:36:35.53 in the territory of the United States that teaches that 00:36:35.83\00:36:39.78 the law of God has to be kept, and has a prophet in her midst? 00:36:39.81\00:36:44.47 There's a church that appears shortly after 1798. 00:36:45.12\00:36:48.54 The Seventh-day Adventist Church. 00:36:48.57\00:36:50.12 But now listen. 00:36:50.15\00:36:51.18 If Revelation 12 deals with events in the future 00:36:51.21\00:36:54.97 after the rapture of the church, what happens with the identity 00:36:55.00\00:37:00.36 of God's remnant church; when it was going to appear, 00:37:00.90\00:37:03.82 where it was going to appear, and what characteristics 00:37:03.92\00:37:07.30 it was going to have? 00:37:07.33\00:37:08.36 It totally disappears. 00:37:09.17\00:37:10.82 The devil wants to hide the moment when God's 00:37:10.94\00:37:14.44 remnant church was going to appear on the scene 00:37:14.47\00:37:17.92 of human history. 00:37:18.13\00:37:19.71 Is it important whether we believe in 00:37:21.85\00:37:23.77 the historical flow method or whether we believe in futurism? 00:37:23.80\00:37:27.46 Listen folks, it's a matter of our existence 00:37:28.17\00:37:32.48 as a denomination. 00:37:32.51\00:37:33.87 We are a prophetic movement. 00:37:33.90\00:37:35.64 We originated as a result of the study of Bible prophecy. 00:37:36.80\00:37:40.34 And our destiny is clothed with Bible prophecy. 00:37:40.57\00:37:44.72 So we cannot be a church that simply 00:37:45.41\00:37:48.26 preaches the love of Jesus. 00:37:48.29\00:37:49.54 It's important to love Jesus, don't get me wrong. 00:37:49.57\00:37:51.81 We can't simply preach what other churches are preaching. 00:37:52.49\00:37:55.44 God has given us a special message and a 00:37:55.47\00:37:58.60 special mission for this time. 00:37:58.63\00:38:00.34 And woe to us if we don't fulfill that special mission 00:38:00.77\00:38:04.07 and preserve that special message, because we would 00:38:04.10\00:38:06.56 have no reason whatsoever to exist. 00:38:06.59\00:38:08.90 Now the next point is even more serious. 00:38:10.33\00:38:12.59 Futurism destroys the 2300 day prophecy. 00:38:13.73\00:38:17.32 You say, "How is that?" 00:38:18.87\00:38:20.08 Well let's read the verse, first of all. 00:38:20.11\00:38:22.03 It says, "And he said unto me, 00:38:22.65\00:38:24.45 'Unto two thousand three hundred days, 00:38:24.70\00:38:27.53 then shall the sanctuary be...'" What? 00:38:27.87\00:38:30.52 "...then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." 00:38:30.76\00:38:33.57 Now, there are three key factors involved in our interpretation 00:38:34.58\00:38:41.79 of this prophecy. 00:38:41.82\00:38:42.98 Number one, the 70 weeks are the first part 00:38:43.34\00:38:47.47 of the 2300 days, and began in 457. 00:38:47.50\00:38:50.77 Correct? 00:38:50.80\00:38:51.83 That's the Adventist view. 00:38:52.03\00:38:53.23 The 70 weeks, first 490 years, are the first portion 00:38:53.76\00:38:56.91 of the 2300 days, and the 70 weeks began in 457 BC. 00:38:56.94\00:39:01.89 That's the first point. 00:39:02.09\00:39:03.58 The second point is that the 2300 days are really 00:39:04.07\00:39:07.35 symbolic of what? 00:39:07.38\00:39:08.99 They represent years. 00:39:09.44\00:39:11.09 And the third point is that there is no gap 00:39:11.53\00:39:16.07 between week 69 and week 70. 00:39:16.10\00:39:19.06 Those are three non-negotiable items. 00:39:20.67\00:39:23.50 Number one, the 70 weeks are the first part 00:39:23.84\00:39:26.40 of the 2300 day prophecy. 00:39:26.43\00:39:28.07 And they began in 457 BC. 00:39:28.27\00:39:30.36 Number two, the 2300 days are symbolic of years. 00:39:30.53\00:39:34.35 And number three, there is no gap between week 69 and week 70 00:39:34.38\00:39:39.20 like futurists say. 00:39:39.23\00:39:40.73 Now I might say that in the Seventh-day Adventist Church, 00:39:41.56\00:39:44.45 there are scholars who have questioned seriously 00:39:46.23\00:39:49.90 our interpretation of the 2300 days. 00:39:49.93\00:39:52.24 Some notable names are people like D.M. Canright, 00:39:53.20\00:39:56.85 A.F. Ballenger, Fletcher, Desmond Ford, 00:39:57.56\00:40:02.12 and more recently Dale Ratzlaff. 00:40:02.15\00:40:03.92 There must be something that the devil doesn't like 00:40:04.20\00:40:06.38 about the 2300 day prophecy that he would take scholars 00:40:06.41\00:40:10.89 within the church that would be critical of this one 00:40:10.92\00:40:13.90 particular point of Seventh-day Adventist theology. 00:40:13.93\00:40:17.65 Now listen carefully. 00:40:18.44\00:40:19.72 A wrong beginning and ending date for the 70 weeks 00:40:20.65\00:40:24.01 destroys the 1844 date. 00:40:25.01\00:40:27.58 In fact, separating week number 70 from the 00:40:28.44\00:40:31.49 previous 69 totally obliterates the date of 1844. 00:40:31.52\00:40:36.51 So what does Satan want to hide? 00:40:37.29\00:40:39.39 He wants to hide the date for the beginning of the 00:40:39.42\00:40:42.61 judgment of the world. 00:40:42.64\00:40:44.12 You say, "How is this?" 00:40:45.90\00:40:47.29 Well, we believe that the 70 weeks are 00:40:48.26\00:40:50.63 490 consecutive years. 00:40:50.66\00:40:52.78 Then 1810 years more leads you to October 22, 1844. 00:40:53.49\00:40:58.72 Futurism says, "No, no, no. 00:40:59.26\00:41:00.86 The first 69 were fulfilled. 00:41:00.89\00:41:03.28 2000 year gap, and then the 70th week begins." 00:41:03.57\00:41:07.56 Let me ask you, what happens when you create that 00:41:07.59\00:41:09.74 parenthesis or that gap? 00:41:09.77\00:41:11.69 1844 is destroyed. 00:41:11.96\00:41:14.25 Because 1844 depends on the consecutive fulfillment 00:41:14.78\00:41:19.05 of the 70 weeks. 00:41:19.08\00:41:20.53 If you have a gap, then 1844 is a non-entity. 00:41:20.95\00:41:26.24 But the judgment is not the only thing at stake, folks. 00:41:27.92\00:41:30.99 The pioneers of the Seventh-day Adventist Church discovered 00:41:31.64\00:41:34.63 a whole cluster of truth shortly after 1844. 00:41:34.66\00:41:39.13 For example, they discovered that the 00:41:40.35\00:41:41.73 law of God is still binding. 00:41:41.76\00:41:43.34 They discovered that the Sabbath is still binding. 00:41:44.34\00:41:46.30 How did they discover that? 00:41:46.33\00:41:47.64 Well, when they entered the Most Holy Place with Jesus, 00:41:47.67\00:41:50.23 what's in the Most Holy Place? 00:41:52.16\00:41:53.81 The ark. 00:41:54.32\00:41:55.36 So all they did was say, "Okay, what was in the ark?" 00:41:56.05\00:41:58.42 So they go and they look at the shadow in the Old Testament, 00:41:58.95\00:42:01.61 "Oh, the Ten Commandments were in the ark. 00:42:01.64\00:42:03.25 Well, then they must be in the heavenly ark too. 00:42:03.28\00:42:05.90 And so they weren't nailed to the cross." 00:42:05.93\00:42:07.66 And then they started looking more carefully, they said, 00:42:09.03\00:42:10.75 "Now wait a minute, what was in the center of the law? 00:42:10.78\00:42:12.96 The Sabbath. 00:42:12.99\00:42:14.17 And if the earthly Sanctuary was a reflection of the heavenly one 00:42:15.27\00:42:18.05 and there's a heavenly ark of the covenant, 00:42:18.25\00:42:20.08 well the Sabbath must be there too." 00:42:20.11\00:42:22.09 And so slowly but surely, after 1844, they discovered 00:42:23.59\00:42:27.80 all of the distinctive doctrines of the 00:42:27.83\00:42:29.80 Seventh-day Adventist Church that distinguishes 00:42:29.83\00:42:31.74 from every other church. 00:42:31.77\00:42:33.09 They discovered the state of the dead. 00:42:33.61\00:42:35.41 They discovered the judgment. 00:42:36.05\00:42:37.64 They discovered health reform, believe it or not. 00:42:38.16\00:42:41.47 And the gift of prophecy helped explain what had happened 00:42:41.81\00:42:45.25 in 1844 and the mission and message of the 00:42:45.28\00:42:48.02 Seventh-day Adventist Church. 00:42:48.05\00:42:49.57 You say, "Well, how is health reform found in the 00:42:50.41\00:42:52.41 Most Holy Place of the heavenly Sanctuary?" 00:42:52.44\00:42:54.31 Well, you remember there was a little pot of manna? 00:42:54.50\00:42:56.59 What did God want to teach through the manna? 00:42:58.04\00:43:00.19 Well, first of all He wanted to teach Sabbath observance. 00:43:00.81\00:43:03.23 Have you ever noticed that Sabbath observance is 00:43:03.26\00:43:05.38 high-lighted in the Most Holy Place? 00:43:05.41\00:43:07.36 You know, Ellen White had a vision where she saw 00:43:07.39\00:43:09.29 that there was a halo around the fourth commandment 00:43:09.32\00:43:11.38 that high-lighted the fourth commandment. 00:43:11.58\00:43:13.19 Where did she get that idea that the Sabbath 00:43:13.22\00:43:16.31 commandment is high-lighted? 00:43:16.34\00:43:17.58 It's very simple. 00:43:17.61\00:43:18.64 Because in the ark of the covenant you have 00:43:18.67\00:43:21.15 two Sabbath symbols. 00:43:21.18\00:43:23.39 You have the fourth commandment in the Ten Commandments, 00:43:23.85\00:43:25.95 and you have the pot of manna. 00:43:25.98\00:43:27.37 And incidentally, the manna was meant to test Israel 00:43:28.37\00:43:32.24 to see if they would walk in God's law. 00:43:32.27\00:43:34.40 And the Sabbath will be the final test to see if people 00:43:35.13\00:43:38.06 will walk in God's law. 00:43:38.09\00:43:39.51 Are you with me? 00:43:39.54\00:43:40.57 And so the Sabbath, as a test, is found 00:43:40.66\00:43:42.68 in the ark of the covenant. 00:43:42.71\00:43:43.92 Health reform. 00:43:44.25\00:43:45.35 You know, you read Numbers chapter 11. 00:43:45.65\00:43:47.57 It says there that God gave Israel manna to teach 00:43:47.60\00:43:50.86 them a simple diet. 00:43:50.89\00:43:52.00 But they said, "Oh no, we don't want manna, Lord. 00:43:52.10\00:43:54.22 We want the stuff that we had in Egypt. 00:43:54.25\00:43:56.18 All that rich food is what we want." 00:43:56.21\00:43:57.85 But God, through the manna, wanted to teach them 00:43:58.09\00:44:00.17 the simplicity of the diet. 00:44:00.20\00:44:01.49 He wanted to teach them health reform. 00:44:01.52\00:44:03.32 What about the state of the dead? 00:44:04.83\00:44:06.06 Is that found in the Most Holy Place? 00:44:06.09\00:44:08.00 It most certainly is. 00:44:08.20\00:44:09.42 You say, "How?" 00:44:09.45\00:44:10.48 Well first of all, Aaron's rod that budded represents Christ. 00:44:10.81\00:44:13.97 It was a dead rod. 00:44:14.65\00:44:15.97 And by a miracle it sprouted to life. 00:44:16.17\00:44:18.45 By life that was in itself. 00:44:20.11\00:44:21.87 Jesus said, "Though I be dead, yet..." What? 00:44:22.38\00:44:27.00 "...yet I live," He said in Revelation chapter 1. 00:44:27.03\00:44:29.69 And so the rod that budded miraculously represents 00:44:29.72\00:44:32.46 Jesus and His resurrection from the dead. 00:44:32.49\00:44:34.93 But even over and above that, the judgment concept of the 00:44:34.96\00:44:39.66 Adventist church is the only concept that will help us 00:44:39.70\00:44:43.87 understand the state of the dead. 00:44:43.90\00:44:45.16 And let me explain how. 00:44:45.19\00:44:46.43 Let's take Adam as our example. 00:44:47.12\00:44:49.19 Adam was the first individual to be judged 00:44:49.89\00:44:52.84 when the judgment began in 1844. 00:44:53.19\00:44:54.97 Ellen White says beginning with those who first lived 00:44:55.00\00:44:57.66 on the earth Jesus judges each successive generation, 00:44:57.69\00:45:02.55 and He ends with the living. 00:45:02.58\00:45:04.08 So the first person to be judged was Adam. 00:45:04.36\00:45:06.56 Now let me ask you, where was Adam in 1844? 00:45:06.59\00:45:09.40 Adam was in the grave. 00:45:12.64\00:45:14.16 Disintegrated. 00:45:15.25\00:45:16.70 So how could Adam appear before the judgment seat of Christ 00:45:17.17\00:45:19.92 in 1844 if he was disintegrated and totally non-existent? 00:45:19.95\00:45:27.82 How could Adam appear there? 00:45:28.36\00:45:29.88 He appeared there through the record of his life in the books. 00:45:31.60\00:45:35.62 You see, God has a another me in His books in written form. 00:45:37.18\00:45:41.46 And so Adam, when God said, "Adam, you're the first 00:45:42.59\00:45:45.68 to be judged." 00:45:45.71\00:45:46.83 I'm thankful that it's not in alphabetical order. 00:45:47.19\00:45:50.07 He said, "Adam, appear before My judgment seat." 00:45:51.54\00:45:53.88 And so what the angels do is they bring the DVD. 00:45:54.14\00:45:58.74 I'm dramatizing for effect. 00:45:59.75\00:46:01.22 The DVD of Adam's life. 00:46:01.25\00:46:03.66 And so, on a large screen the life of Adam 00:46:04.39\00:46:07.72 is shown in living color. 00:46:07.75\00:46:09.54 The record that was made during his life. 00:46:09.57\00:46:11.85 So is there a certain sense in which Adam is appearing 00:46:13.31\00:46:15.62 alive before the judgment seat of Christ? 00:46:15.65\00:46:17.76 He's not alive in person, but the record was made 00:46:17.96\00:46:20.59 while he was alive. 00:46:20.62\00:46:21.93 And so what's seen on the screen is Adam while he was alive. 00:46:22.81\00:46:25.83 Even though personally and physically he is what? 00:46:26.13\00:46:28.89 He is dead. Are you understanding me? 00:46:29.11\00:46:30.71 And so the record of Adam is examined. 00:46:31.21\00:46:33.41 And it's found that he repented of sin, he confessed his sins, 00:46:34.12\00:46:37.12 and his name is retained in the book of life. 00:46:37.32\00:46:39.50 Now here's my question, how do Christians believe... 00:46:40.29\00:46:42.89 When does the judgment take place, according to Christians? 00:46:42.92\00:46:45.67 They say, "Oh, the second coming. 00:46:45.87\00:46:46.97 He will come to judge the living and the dead." 00:46:47.00\00:46:49.10 As it says in the Credo. 00:46:49.13\00:46:52.23 So they say, you know, the judgment is when Jesus comes. 00:46:52.50\00:46:55.87 And what do they believe happens when a person dies? 00:46:57.83\00:47:00.40 When a person dies, if they were good, they go to heaven. 00:47:01.29\00:47:04.30 If they were bad, they go to hell. 00:47:04.33\00:47:06.10 If they were half bad, they go to purgatory. 00:47:06.13\00:47:08.42 And if they had not reached the age of accountability, 00:47:09.00\00:47:11.51 they go to limbo. 00:47:11.54\00:47:12.72 It's amazing how people invent all different kinds of 00:47:12.75\00:47:15.60 spheres and levels. 00:47:15.63\00:47:17.47 But here's my question. 00:47:18.38\00:47:19.64 If Adam is judged in 1844, he's the first to be judged in 1844, 00:47:21.92\00:47:30.16 did he go to heaven when he died? 00:47:30.36\00:47:32.18 He couldn't have gone to heaven when he died. 00:47:33.45\00:47:35.45 Would God take him to heaven before he's judged? 00:47:35.55\00:47:37.79 Absolutely not. 00:47:38.34\00:47:39.48 He's judged in 1844. 00:47:39.73\00:47:41.93 And then when will he be taken to heaven? 00:47:41.96\00:47:44.56 He will be taken to heaven when Jesus comes. 00:47:44.95\00:47:47.16 So is the state of the dead doctrine involved in 00:47:47.26\00:47:50.15 the idea of the judgment, the Adventist idea of the judgment? 00:47:50.18\00:47:52.66 It most certainly is. 00:47:52.69\00:47:54.21 It's the only idea that makes sense, 00:47:54.81\00:47:57.17 is the Seventh-day Adventist view of the judgment. 00:47:57.37\00:47:59.21 Because we teach that an individual dies, 00:47:59.41\00:48:02.30 they appear before the judgment seat of Christ. 00:48:02.64\00:48:04.95 When they're judged, they didn't go to heaven or to hell. 00:48:04.98\00:48:07.26 Because in that case, when they died they would have 00:48:07.29\00:48:09.10 already been judged. 00:48:09.13\00:48:10.70 And so then they're judged. 00:48:11.25\00:48:12.52 And when Jesus comes, then He gives a reward 00:48:12.55\00:48:15.89 that has been decided in the judgment, 00:48:15.92\00:48:18.54 in the pre-advent judgment. 00:48:18.57\00:48:20.29 So all of these truths are clustered 00:48:20.32\00:48:22.87 in the Most Holy Place. 00:48:22.90\00:48:23.95 And our pioneers discovered them one by one after 1844 00:48:23.98\00:48:27.96 because they entered the Most Holy Place. 00:48:27.99\00:48:29.80 And the Most Holy Place teaches these particular doctrines. 00:48:29.83\00:48:33.86 Now, what are the particular doctrinal points 00:48:33.89\00:48:38.34 that the Christian world despises? 00:48:38.37\00:48:40.24 How about the law? 00:48:42.35\00:48:43.90 Oh, it was nailed to the cross, right? 00:48:44.42\00:48:46.23 How about the Sabbath? 00:48:46.71\00:48:47.94 Oh, it was for the Jews. 00:48:48.64\00:48:50.09 How about health reform? 00:48:50.89\00:48:52.37 Oh, you can eat your pork chops. 00:48:53.60\00:48:55.45 Not a problem. The prayer sanctifies the pig. 00:48:55.48\00:48:58.57 What do they say about the state of the dead? 00:49:01.67\00:49:04.20 They say, "Well, the dead are not dead." 00:49:04.76\00:49:07.11 They're either in bliss or they're in misery. 00:49:07.14\00:49:09.72 Are those the very doctrines that are distinctive 00:49:10.86\00:49:14.24 to the Seventh-day Adventist Church? 00:49:14.34\00:49:15.81 Folks, the doctrines that make us what we are 00:49:16.06\00:49:19.24 are centered in the Most Holy Place of the heavenly Sanctuary. 00:49:19.27\00:49:22.19 And the pioneers discovered it when they entered in 1844. 00:49:22.55\00:49:26.39 So if you destroy the date 1844 by destroying the prophecy 00:49:26.42\00:49:32.13 of the 70 weeks, you are destroying 00:49:32.16\00:49:34.74 Seventh-day Adventist theology. 00:49:35.07\00:49:37.14 Now, there's another thing that's important here. 00:49:38.12\00:49:41.19 After 1844, a method of interpreting prophecy 00:49:41.79\00:49:48.38 was discarded. 00:49:48.41\00:49:49.92 You know that the Millerites taught that Jesus 00:49:49.95\00:49:51.95 was going to come on October 22, 1844. 00:49:51.98\00:49:55.40 And Jesus didn't come. 00:49:55.43\00:49:56.63 Do you know what method Miller and those who preached 00:49:56.97\00:49:59.97 with Miller used to reach that date? 00:50:00.00\00:50:02.24 The historical flow method. 00:50:03.11\00:50:04.84 They used historicism as their method 00:50:06.39\00:50:08.55 to reach the date October 22, 1844. 00:50:09.03\00:50:12.07 70 weeks, 1810 years. 00:50:12.10\00:50:15.30 And then they also appealed to the Hebrew feasts, 00:50:15.56\00:50:18.26 you know, which give you the day and the month 00:50:18.45\00:50:21.06 of the Day of Atonement. 00:50:21.89\00:50:23.19 And so they said, "We have the day and the month 00:50:23.92\00:50:25.96 from the Hebrew feasts, we have the year 00:50:25.99\00:50:27.83 from Daniel chapter 8 and verse 14." 00:50:27.86\00:50:29.92 And so they say, "October 22, 1844 00:50:29.95\00:50:32.10 the judgment is going to begin." 00:50:32.13\00:50:34.58 But Jesus didn't come. 00:50:34.61\00:50:35.93 So you know what the devil did? 00:50:36.75\00:50:38.39 The devil discredited historicism as a method 00:50:38.99\00:50:42.26 of interpreting prophecy. 00:50:42.29\00:50:43.90 Let me read you some statements. 00:50:44.59\00:50:46.38 One is from Richard Kyle. 00:50:46.41\00:50:48.36 He's not an Adventist. He use to be a futurist. 00:50:49.15\00:50:51.50 He use to be a Plymouth Brethren. 00:50:51.53\00:50:53.07 And he had something very interesting to say in his book, 00:50:53.58\00:50:56.86 The Last Days Are Here Again. 00:50:56.89\00:50:59.56 He says, "Despite its visibility the Millerite movement 00:51:00.76\00:51:05.34 had little influence on subsequent end time thinking." 00:51:05.37\00:51:09.21 In other words, Millerism didn't cause very much of an impact 00:51:10.69\00:51:13.41 in future end time thinking. 00:51:13.62\00:51:15.44 "It did, however, have three long-term effects. 00:51:16.11\00:51:19.13 One, Millerism spawned the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 00:51:20.07\00:51:24.12 Two, it discredited historicist pre-millennialism..." 00:51:25.20\00:51:29.64 That's our view; historicism and that Jesus 00:51:31.75\00:51:34.57 is going to come before the millennium. 00:51:35.39\00:51:37.82 And notice it says, "...it discredited historicist 00:51:39.17\00:51:42.06 pre-millennialism, causing it to fade out 00:51:42.09\00:51:45.24 almost entirely after 1844. 00:51:45.27\00:51:48.71 And number three, the Millerite fiasco demonstrated the perils 00:51:49.71\00:51:53.78 of setting definite dates for Christ's return." 00:51:53.81\00:51:57.69 In another statement we find in the same book, page 102, 00:51:58.20\00:52:01.88 he says this, "The great disappointment of 1844 00:52:03.21\00:52:07.84 had decimated historicist pre-millennialism." 00:52:08.33\00:52:12.62 What did the disappointment do? 00:52:13.32\00:52:14.92 It almost well-nigh obliterated historicist pre-millennialism. 00:52:15.54\00:52:20.75 Which is our method of interpreting Bible prophecy. 00:52:20.78\00:52:23.26 And now notice what he says, "But a futurist 00:52:23.97\00:52:26.64 pre-millennialism called, dispensationalism, 00:52:26.67\00:52:29.90 soon arrived on the scene." 00:52:29.93\00:52:31.97 So what did the devil do? 00:52:33.46\00:52:35.09 When Jesus didn't come, he said the method didn't work. 00:52:35.64\00:52:37.99 So he threw out the baby with the bath water. 00:52:38.02\00:52:41.15 He wanted to get rid of our method, 00:52:41.70\00:52:43.76 because he knew that he could get rid of our message. 00:52:44.12\00:52:47.41 Now notice the words of another futurist. 00:52:47.63\00:52:50.22 This is Thomas Ice. 00:52:50.25\00:52:52.07 What he says is very icy. 00:52:53.31\00:52:55.07 This is in his book, 00:52:56.17\00:52:57.51 "The Tribulation: Past or Future," page 6. 00:52:57.77\00:53:00.49 And he actually mentions the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 00:53:00.98\00:53:03.27 He says, "Historicism, once the dominant view of Protestants 00:53:03.47\00:53:08.53 from the Reformation until the middle of the last century..." 00:53:08.56\00:53:11.92 He's writing, this is in the 1990's. 00:53:11.95\00:53:15.15 So the last century would be the 1900's. 00:53:15.35\00:53:18.17 So he says, "Historicism, once the dominant view of 00:53:18.20\00:53:20.60 Protestants from the Reformation until the 00:53:20.63\00:53:22.92 middle of the last century, appears to exert little 00:53:22.95\00:53:26.98 attraction as a system of prophetic interpretation 00:53:27.01\00:53:30.92 to conservative Christians outside of the 00:53:31.56\00:53:34.51 Seventh-day Adventist circles. 00:53:34.54\00:53:36.31 Within evangelicalism during the last 150 years, 00:53:36.55\00:53:41.15 futurism has grown to dominate and overcome historicism." 00:53:41.18\00:53:45.90 Wow. 00:53:47.28\00:53:48.40 Futurism has done its work of practically obliterating 00:53:49.69\00:53:56.21 the historical flow method of interpreting Bible prophecy. 00:53:56.43\00:54:00.05 According to Ellen White, this shifted understanding 00:54:00.91\00:54:05.25 is the direct result of Satan's desire to get rid of historicism 00:54:05.28\00:54:09.28 as the proper method of interpreting Bible prophecy. 00:54:09.31\00:54:12.06 And now I quote from, Early Writings, 256 and 257. 00:54:12.09\00:54:16.24 She says, "After the great disappointment in 1844, 00:54:16.27\00:54:20.05 Satan and his angels were busily engaged in laying snares 00:54:20.56\00:54:24.64 to unsettle the faith of the body. 00:54:24.67\00:54:26.74 He affected the minds of persons who had had an experience 00:54:26.94\00:54:30.56 in the messages, and who had an appearance of humility." 00:54:30.59\00:54:33.95 Listen carefully. 00:54:34.28\00:54:35.77 "Some pointed to the future for the fulfillment of the 00:54:35.80\00:54:38.77 first and second messages, while others pointed 00:54:38.80\00:54:41.71 far back into the past..." 00:54:41.74\00:54:43.08 What does the devil do? 00:54:43.11\00:54:44.39 He says, "No, these things are going to be fulfilled 00:54:44.42\00:54:45.88 in the future or they were fulfilled..." When? 00:54:45.91\00:54:48.83 In the past. 00:54:48.86\00:54:50.30 "...declaring that they had been there fulfilled. 00:54:50.74\00:54:52.87 These were gaining an influence over the minds 00:54:53.14\00:54:55.63 of the inexperienced and unsettling their faith. 00:54:55.66\00:54:59.03 Some were searching the Bible to build up a faith of their own, 00:54:59.38\00:55:02.88 independent of the body. 00:55:03.08\00:55:04.82 Satan exulted in all this; for he knew that those 00:55:05.02\00:55:08.40 who broke loose from the anchor..." 00:55:08.43\00:55:10.83 See, there's our anchor again. 00:55:11.31\00:55:12.88 "...that those who broke loose from the anchor 00:55:13.57\00:55:15.88 he could affect by different errors and drive about 00:55:15.91\00:55:20.22 with divers winds of doctrine. 00:55:20.25\00:55:22.94 Many who had led in the first and second messages 00:55:23.19\00:55:26.22 now denied them, and there was division and confusion 00:55:26.25\00:55:30.67 throughout the body." 00:55:30.70\00:55:32.14 So the disappointment led Christians to forsake 00:55:34.51\00:55:39.50 historicism, or the historical flow method, 00:55:40.35\00:55:42.91 as the method of interpreting Bible prophecy. 00:55:42.94\00:55:45.75 And by the way, historicism is the only way 00:55:45.78\00:55:49.29 that we can interpret prophecy correctly, 00:55:49.62\00:55:51.75 because it comes internally from Scripture. 00:55:51.78\00:55:53.88 I mean, it's so simple. 00:55:54.30\00:55:55.50 Lion, Babylon; bear, Medo-Persia; 00:55:56.65\00:55:59.44 leopard, Greece; dragon beast, Rome. 00:55:59.47\00:56:02.49 Rome is divided into ten kingdoms. 00:56:02.78\00:56:04.87 Then papal Rome arises, rules from 538 to 1798. 00:56:04.90\00:56:09.87 And then when this beast has its deadly wound, 00:56:09.90\00:56:13.96 "I saw another beast rising from the earth 00:56:13.99\00:56:16.39 that had two horns like a lamb, but at the end 00:56:16.42\00:56:19.32 it speaks like a dragon." 00:56:19.35\00:56:20.95 Even the United States rises at the moment when 00:56:22.44\00:56:25.37 the first beast falls. 00:56:25.40\00:56:26.78 And so with historicism, you know exactly where you are 00:56:27.37\00:56:31.40 in the flow of history at any given moment. 00:56:31.43\00:56:33.86 But when you create huge gaps, you don't know where you're at. 00:56:35.03\00:56:39.15 Because you have no reference point. 00:56:39.69\00:56:41.16 Are you understanding what I'm saying? 00:56:41.19\00:56:42.70 So our method is the method, the historical flow method. 00:56:43.24\00:56:47.01 And incidentally, there's another method called, 00:56:47.45\00:56:49.99 preterism, which is that the prophecy of the little horn 00:56:50.02\00:56:54.21 was fulfilled with a nasty individual called, 00:56:54.24\00:56:56.37 Antiochus Epiphanes, in the Old Testament. 00:56:56.40\00:56:59.44 And that the beast of Revelation 13 represents Nero. 00:56:59.77\00:57:03.65 So all of these prophecies were fulfilled 00:57:03.93\00:57:05.94 with Antiochus Epiphanes and with Nero in the Roman Empire. 00:57:06.15\00:57:09.90 They have no relevance for us today. 00:57:09.93\00:57:11.81 What is the devil trying to do? 00:57:12.07\00:57:13.60 He's trying to make Bible prophecy irrelevant. 00:57:13.63\00:57:16.39 If there ever was a church that has a message to 00:57:16.95\00:57:19.52 share with the world, it is the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 00:57:19.55\00:57:22.09 If there ever was a time that we need to share the book, 00:57:22.59\00:57:25.26 The Great Controversy, with the world, it is now. 00:57:25.29\00:57:27.75 Because that book is the best presentation in the world 00:57:28.15\00:57:31.74 on the historicist method, or the historical flow method, 00:57:31.80\00:57:34.88 of explaining and interpreting Bible prophecy. 00:57:35.18\00:57:37.67 And so, folks, God has called us to do this very thing; 00:57:38.08\00:57:42.83 to proclaim the three angels' messages to the world. 00:57:42.86\00:57:46.22