My family is now
switching to a healthier
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meat poultry chicken
and turkey and not the
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red meat because that's
a healthier meat so they
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say even now you
are that's what you are
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thinking today's
program may be just for you
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entitled poultry
problems so stay by.
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Hi! Welcome to
Abundant Living. This is Curtis
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Eakins your co-host. And
I would like to introduce
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my lovely bride Paula
Eakins. How are you doing
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today my love? I'm
absolutely wonderful.
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You're absolutely
beautiful as well.
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Thank you. You are
welcome. Any comments
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you want to give
towards me in return. Like what.
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Whatever is on
your mind baby? You are
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very handsome. Okay,
we can continue. I was all
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set for poetry and
everything but poultry
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poetry, so I'll go with
the poultry, although one day
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I might do the poetry.
Okay, okay, now, let's say
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a poem and talk about
poetry too, yeah lot of
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people making switch
they are moving from the
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red meat to they call
the white meat. The white
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meat looking at
chicken poultry and so, I guess
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my first question is
or about heart diseases as
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it relates to
poultry, eating. Yeah, now of
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course lot of people
again switching from red
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meat to poultry and
let's define the term poultry
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first. Poultry takes
now only just chicken
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because people think of
we say poultry they think
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of chicken also turkey
and duck. So, those foods
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are but we're gonna
zero in on mainly chicken,
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but we will hit on
turkey as well. But as for
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as cardiovascular disease
is concerned let's put it
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that way, chicken or
poultry in itself is not
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healthier than red
meat. Now there are certain
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components that will
create a increase of coronary
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artery disease, you
have cholesterol, you have
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saturated fat. Those
two in combination will
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dramatically increase
coronary artery disease,
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heart attack by every
32 seconds, a stroke about
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every minute. Therefore
with that in mind it's a
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number one
killer in United States
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cardiovascular. Now
almost a million people
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about 900,000 per year,
having said that you take
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one ounce of beef,
okay, one ounce of chicken
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each has about the
same amount of cholesterol
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which is 25 milligrams
so, there is no gain as far
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as switching from red
meat, beef to poultry or
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chicken because that
has the same amount of
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cholesterol about 25
milligrams per ounce.
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Same thing is true
for saturated fat as well.
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So, with that in mind
that food the poultry does
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not give you any gaining
ground as far as reducing
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your risk of
cardiovascular disease
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now with that in mind
there is another thing
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I want to talk
about which is high blood
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pressure, okay. Now
when a person has high
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blood pressure normally
the doctor says you need
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to cut down your use of
what? Red meat! Red meat
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or salt, oh yeah
well, yes, sodium, yes, yes.
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And that's true because
if you reduce your intake
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of sodium, your blood
pressure will go down.
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But now there is
something else we need to
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understand too, sodium
does not only lower your
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blood pressure but
it's also what we call in a
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medical profession the
potassium to sodium ratio,
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in other words if
something has a high
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potassium, a low
sodium blood pressure goes
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down, right. If there is
low potassium, high sodium
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blood pressure goes
up, guess what? Chicken has
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zero potassium and
high sodium thereby blood
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pressure tends to go
up. So, now we're talking
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about high blood
pressure which also causes more
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stress on the heart
muscle thereby increasing heart
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attacks and strokes.
So, as far as poultry is
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concerned, cardiovascular
system, cholesterol;
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blood pressure we're
not gaining ground by
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switching from red
meat beef to poultry.
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Well a lot of reasons
that people also move from
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the red meat to the
chicken has to do with
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weight gain as well,
they are thinking that if they
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get away from the red
meat, right, going chicken
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instead. This is low
in calories and therefore
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they'll loose weight
now it is that the case?
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Absolutely not, it's
not even close, alright,
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now far as weight or
weight gain or weight loss
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is concerned
switching from red meat, beef to
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poultry chicken or
turkey the fat grams are about
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the same as well,
alright. You take for instance a
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3.5 ounce of lean stake
and 3.5 ounce of chicken,
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alright, the calories
from fat is the same so,
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there is no ground being
gained far as fat grams is
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concerned for as chicken
or even turkey. Even your
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turkey sometimes now
you have a turkey luncheon
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meat and the gram fat
amount in turkey can be
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very high as well.
Now-a-days we just saw
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last week that you
have ground chicken,
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just packaged, just
like ground beef, alright.
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So, again the fat
gram amount is the same,
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cholesterol is the
same, the saturated fat is to
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same as well as far
as poultry and also the
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ground beef. Well you
know one of the things as
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moms is concerned when
our children are going to
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lunch we fix
those luncheon meats,
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that's right. You know
they can have sandwiches
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and stuff so you just
got finished saying that
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sandwich, chicken and
turkey is being also being
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added in as a part
of that luncheon meat so
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I guess my question
then how safe is, I mean
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we know before that
we talked about luncheon
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meat, right, sodium
nitrates which is all over the
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news for some time
and still on the new for
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sometime, right. So,
then how does the chicken
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and turkey
combination in a luncheon meats
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add up? Yeah, you
know years ago now you
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go to some very popular
Fast food restaurants and
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those restaurants are
primarily selling hamburger
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they are known for
selling hamburgers. Now you go
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to so many fast food
restaurants, we did this
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going through airport
just looked on the menu now
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more sandwiches are
chicken than hamburgers,
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absolutely. Although
they are selling when
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they first started
years ago hamburgers there is
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more chicken
sandwiches and more chicken is
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the salad as well,
because chicken has doubled
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more than doubled
since 1970. Turkey is
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increasing at an increasing
rate. So, thereby a lot
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of people are moving to
poultry thinking that is
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healthier. Now as far
as, what you just asked me?
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I asked you, about
the luncheon meat. Oh,
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the luncheon meat,
yeah. Now when you go to
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the grocery store folks
and this is something you
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can do in the grocery
store. You looked up the
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package container on the
back and look and see the
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amount of calories
on that luncheon meat,
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the poultry, either
turkey or chicken. Okay. Okay,
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that's very important but
what's more important than
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that is the calories
from fat. Now they'll say that
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you wanna loose weight
you wanna make sure that
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your calories from
fat is no more than about
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maybe 20%, 30% at max,
okay. Now, for instance
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if a package has lets
say a 100 calories then the
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calories from fat which is
on the label let's say it is 80
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you wanna leave that on
a shelf because that's 80%,
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alright. Chicken
sometimes can be 80 and 90%
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of the calories from
fat. And turkey as well can
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be over half of the
amount of fat in the calorie so
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therefore with the
luncheon meats we wanna
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look at the calories and
also the calories from fat
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also tells a story
far as fat gram amounts.
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You know we've talked
before on Abundant Living
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about the importance
of reading those labels,
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I mean it will means
you have to go to store a
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little bit earlier it
just means it's a good idea
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because that fat gram
is really important, yes.
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Not only the fat gram
but the calorie amount all
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that, so just read them
and the labels are so much
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more simpler to read
now than before, yes. So you
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wanna take some time
out and read the label and
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see exactly what you
are getting. Absolutely!
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You know, you know
sometimes we just don't
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read those labels and if
you go to a grocery store
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you'll find yourself
reading labels all the time than
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you are in a wrong
place because fruits and
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vegetables have no
label. So, I mean in that sense
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so if you understand
what I'm saying, what about
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the impact then of
cancer what relationship do we
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have as far as cancer
as it relates to poultry
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problems. Yeah, now as
far as cancer is concerned
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folks that it is
really down hill, I mean there
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several carcinogens found
in the flesh of animals in
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muscle of
animals, yeah, Benzopyrene,
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Methylcholanthrene, but
the main thing that most
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people heard of is
Heterocyclic Amine, HCA in
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Medical Journals, you
know what been talking
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about. And heterocyclic
means it's the number
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one carcinogen found
in dead flesh. Chickens
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loaded with it, let's go
to our first graph and let's
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see about Heterocyclic
Amines or cancer causing
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agents found in
several of their flesh at this
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time. Now first of all
this called the Cancer Score
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alright. Now the
first thing we're gonna look
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at is the steak and now
the steak this is a grilled
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stake or 2.5 ounce
of grill Steak now the
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Heterocyclic Amines or
cancer causing agents in
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this steak is 30 ng now
nanograms is one billionth
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of a gram of carcinogen
alright 30. Now let's go
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to next one
Hamburger, Hamburger it is 33 ng
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of carcinogens in
the hamburger. Now folks,
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hold on to your seat the
last one is chicken this is
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a oven fried pan
broiled chicken it is a whopping
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480 ng of carcinogens
in the chicken alone.
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This report even
surprised the National
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Cancer Institute so
thereby switching from
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red meat, beef to
poultry chicken is really worse
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than ground beef
when we switch to this so
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called Healthier Meat.
Okay, that's a real eye
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opener. Yes it is.
Okay, you know looking at
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the nanograms and
then trying it and
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automatically you
automatically feel that the
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chicken is going to be
a better one. Yes. And so,
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now we see that is
not really a better one.
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It's not, now of
course some people will take
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the skin off a little
bit you do gain something in
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that but still you get
the cholesterol, saturated
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fat still in a muscle
of the chicken because
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remember now all fast
foods have what we call
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inherent fat. That means
the fat that is within the
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muscle of the flesh of
the animal that you cannot
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cut away is call inherent
fat, so therefore lot of
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the fat you get you
just can't cut away you get
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that by eating the
flesh itself. Well you know
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over and over again
as we are watching TV or
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listening on a radio or
picking up the newspaper
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these days we've been
seeing an awful lot about
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food poisonings, you
know as it relates to the
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meat industry or meat
poultry, talk a little bit
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about that. Yeah we
years ago we went to one
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place I am not gonna list
the name but he is a third
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generation chicken
farmer. I remember that, and
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you know what I am
talking about, yeah, anyways
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I talked to him about
couple of weeks ago before
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we came up here to
make sure I get the story
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straight but we went
there and he went outside
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one morning he told he
was just going out the next
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morning to feed his
chickens I said what time
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you are going to get
up he said about maybe
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5 o'clock in the
morning, I said well get me up
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I have my camera.
And now we can show this
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graphic right now
because we're going to his
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chicken house and so
he put on his mask, he put
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on his boots. I was
wondering why did he do
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that? Yeah. When I
was walking towards this
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chicken house we see
right there about maybe 50
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yards when I got
close to the chicken house,
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thank you for that
graphic. When I got close
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the chicken house I
began to smell the order
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coming from that
chicken house. Then I opened up
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the door, the stench
just, it rocked me so much the
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Fumes, the Ammonia
order was just unbearable
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then I understood why
he had a mask and he had
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his boots. Do you have
a mask on too? No I did
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not. Oh, my goodness.
Because I am from the city
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you know I can take
care of it, yea right.
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Okay and my glasses
were fogged up and so
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what happens is that you
have a lot of fecal matter
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and cysts and puss and
larvae and the chickens
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are walking around in
that, then the legs and
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feet become infected
they're breathing in all this
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ammonia goes into the
respiratory system into
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the tissues so when we
eat this chicken and these
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chicks and things
like that and it becomes an
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awful mess and so
therefore we're taking
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all this into our
system as well. And I said to
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him well exactly what do
chickens eat? Let's go to
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our next graph and let's
look at foul feed! Is what
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I call it? Alright,
let's go to first one, number
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one is arsenic, he said
that what they do if they
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will inject the
chickens with arsenic, it will
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immobilize their muscles
well therefore they cannot
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move around well
therefore if they are not moving
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around the weight
comes on faster so Arsenic.
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Let's go to the next
one, antibiotics of course now
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this will cut down on
some of the pathogens or
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such as salmonella,
Campylobacterales, Listeria,
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there is a whole list of
them but again a lot of chickens
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still have these
things as well, this also adds
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weight to the system as
well. Let's go to the next
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one growth hormones,
again they're trying to
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fatten up these
chickens as fast as they can as
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cheap as they can.
So, instead of giving them
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to weight 4 pounds
in 12 weeks. They weight
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four pounds in five weeks,
half of the time. Let's go to
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the last one Dead
chickens, dead chickens
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thank you for that
graphic I want to talk
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about the dead
chicken before we go into the
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kitchen. There was a
container outside of this
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chicken house and you
know, you saw that and if
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showed you it folks,
this program probably will not
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air, you'll be too
graphic. That's right. I said
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what's inside that
container? He says with
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a smile open it up.
So I opened it up took a
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picture of it and there
were dead chickens there,
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I said what happens
to these dead chickens
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because I looked around
I didn't see any chicken,
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chicken cemeteries he
said what they do is they
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grind up these
chickens and then also the baby
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male chicks because
they are not useful they
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don't lay eggs and then
he said they will cook it
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down and then they
will turn into a powder and
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they mix it with other
protein and feed it back
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to the chickens that
are alive and because its
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cheap feed alright, and
therefore we take all that
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into our system and
that's why there is a lot
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of problems with
Campylobacterales, diarrhea,
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fevers, cramps,
Salmonella, E-Coli and
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you know food recalls
or just about every single
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week that covers several
states so that's why there
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is so much involved in
this problems of poultry
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so we got problems
with poultry folks. And its,
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I am not saying
everything that I can say
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but hopefully just enough
to let people know that this
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is not a health meat
at all. Well I think you
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changed Ann's mind
and I'm sure that Bob said
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enough with the chicken,
yes, and after all I mean
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we're the whole thing
is talking about chicken.
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We're gonna in the
kitchen because we can
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talk about the farm
raised basically verses
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the free range type
chickens that are there.
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I know you say what in
the world are they gonna
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cook that and knock
chicken totally out.
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So, believe it or
not every time Curtis,
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tells me what he is
gonna do on our program
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I turn around and I
say okay let me match it up
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with a recipe and so
yes indeed we do have a
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recipe and no it is
not chicken. However we are
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going to do a mock
chicken strips that's gonna do
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the stimulation of
chicken. I am telling you
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it is going to taste
absolutely good look good you
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need to get
your paper and pencil
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and meet us in the kitchen.
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