HI, I'M JULIE AND
WELCOME TO "ADVENTURES IN
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MISSIONS" HERE
AT GOSPEL OUTREACH.
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IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE
TO HAVE YOU HERE WITH US AND
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ITS ALSO WONDERFUL TO
HEAR FROM MANY OF YOU WHO ARE
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WATCHING "ADVENTURES
IN MISSIONS" AND I WANT TO
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SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF
OF GOSPEL OUTREACH FOR THAT.
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WE ALSO WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRAYERS AND
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YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR
FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND WE
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WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO
VISIT US ON SOCIAL MEDIA,
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ON FACEBOOK AND
INSTAGRAM AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR
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WEBSITE WHICH IS
GOAIM.ORG AND YOU ARE PROBABLY
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WONDERING WHAT DOES
THE GOAIM STAND FOR?
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WELL, IT'S GOSPEL OUTREACH
ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS AND
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WE HAVE OUR NEWSLETTER
AS WELL, AND WE WANT TO
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ENCOURAGE YOU ALSO TO
VISIT OUR GOTV APP WHICH
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IS A NEW PLATFORM.
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SO, TODAY WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY OF VISITING
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YET ANOTHER OF THE
MANY COUNTRIES IN THE 10/40
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WINDOW AND TODAY WE
HAVE GARY WAGNER HERE WITH US
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HERE ON OUR ZOOM SET.
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GARY, WELCOME TO
"ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS".
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THANK YOU, IT
IS NICE TO BE HERE.
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ALWAYS GREAT TO VISIT
WITH YOU GARY AND YOU HAVE A
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VERY INTERESTING REGION.
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AH, SHARE WITH THE VIEWERS
THE COUNTRIES THAT YOU'RE
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INVOLVED WITH
FOR GOSPEL OUTREACH.
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IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO BE
THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR
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VIETNAM AND
CAMBODIA, THAILAND AND WEST
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INDONESIA AND EAST
INDONESIA, WEST PAPUA AND
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THAT'S A LOT OF TERRITORY.
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THAT'S A LOT OF TERRITORY
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
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NEED TO KNOW JESUS AND
AS YOU'VE SAID THAT UM, ONE
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THING THAT CAME TO MY
MIND, GARY ARE THE MANY
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RELIGIONS AH, THAT ARE
REPRESENTED IN ALL THOSE
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DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
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AND WE ARE GOING TO BE
TALKING TODAY ABOUT UM,
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THE FOURTH MOST POPULATED
NATION WHICH WAS A LITTLE
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SURPRISING TO ME SO
LET'S DIVE RIGHT IN.
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YES, INDONESIA IS THE
IS AS YOU SAY, THE FOURTH
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MOST POPULATED
COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
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THEY HAVE 279 MILLION
PEOPLE AND OF THOSE 87
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PERCENT ARE MUSLIMS.
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AH, THERE IS ONLY
LESS THAN 10 PERCENT ARE
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CHRISTIANS AND AMONG
THESE PEOPLE THERE ARE 64
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UNREACHED PEOPLE GROUPS
WHICH SAYS THAT WE'VE GOT
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A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
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WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
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OK, SO THEN THE COUNTRIES
AHEAD OF INDONESIA WOULD
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BE CHINA, OBVIOUSLY
AND THEN INDIA, THE U.S.
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AND THEN INDONESIA BEING
THE FOURTH MOST POPULATED
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COUNTRY.
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YES, A LITTLE SURPRISING
TO ME BUT YES, THAT IS
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VERY INTERESTING.
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I'VE BEEN TO INDONESIA
IN FACT, I THINK THAT I WAS
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LITERALLY, I DON'T
KNOW, JUST INCHES FROM THE
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EQUATOR, GARY AND IT
WAS THE MOST -I HAVE NEVER
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BEEN SO HOT IN MY LIFE
AS I WAS WHEN A STUDENT
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MISSIONARY AND HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY OF BEING IN
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INDONESIA.
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WONDERFUL PLACE,
BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE.
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I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
OF BEING IN MINADO AND
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JAKARTA AND I LOVE TO
SAY THIS UNDUNPUNGDAN.
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I WAS ONLY AT THE
AIRPORT THERE BUT FASCINATING
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PLACE AND VERY
INTERESTING PEOPLE.
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I'VE FOUND IT TO BE THE SAME.
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UH, EXTREMELY FASCINATING.
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I LIVED IN CAMBODIA AND
IN THAILAND BEFORE AND IT WAS
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HOT THERE AND SO, I HAD
AN IDEA WHAT TO BE READY FOR
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HERE AND I WASN'T DISAPPOINTED.
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IT WAS VERY HOT BUT IT
WAS ONE OF THE COUNTRIES THAT
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I VISITED EARLIER THIS
YEAR AND GOT TO KNOW A LOT
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MORE ABOUT
MINISTRY TO MUSLIM PEOPLE.
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YES, ABSOLUTELY.
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SO, KIND OF GIVE US
A LITTLE BIT OF AH, YOU
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KNOW, YOU'VE JUST
SHARED-HEAVILY POPULATED,
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MUSLIMS BUT WHAT DOES
THAT MEAN IN REGARDS TO GOSPEL
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OUTREACH WORKERS OF
SHARING JESUS IN A MUSLIM
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COUNTRY?
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WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
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WELL, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT
THINK THAT YOU CAN'T SHARE
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JESUS WITH THE MUSLIMS.
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HOWEVER, YOU REALLY CAN.
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WHAT I'VE LEARNED
THROUGH THE LAST FEW YEARS AND
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PARTICULARLY DURING THIS
VISIT IS THAT SEVENTH DAY
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ADVENTISTS AND
MUSLIMS HAVE A LOT IN COMMON.
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AND IF WE SIMPLY TREAT
MUSLIM PEOPLE AS PEOPLE,
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AH, AND TREAT THEM
KINDLY THEY WILL RECIPROCATE.
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IN FACT, OFTEN THEY
WILL TREAT US KINDLY EVEN
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BEFORE WE WOULD THEM KINDLY.
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IT IS JUST -THESE ARE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE A DEEP
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LOVE FOR GOD AND THEY
HAVE A DEEP FAITH THAT BUILDS
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THEM TO BE VERY GOOD PEOPLE.
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NOW, OF COURSE, AMONG
THE MUSLIMS AS WELL AS AMONG
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THE CHRISTIANS IN
COUNTRIES LIKE THE UNITED
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STATES THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO CAN GET EXTREME FROM
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ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER
BUT AH, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I
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DON'T BELIEVE I SAW ANY
OF THOSE PEOPLE WHILE I WAS
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IN INDONESIA FOR TWO WEEKS.
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IT WAS JUST A WONDERFUL VISIT.
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DEVOUT THEY UM, YOU
KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ARE SERVING GOD
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THE WAY THAT THEY BELIEVE
HOW TO DO THAT BUT AS FAR
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AS GOING IN IT IS ILLEGAL
ISN'T IT TO GO IN WITH THE
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MINDSET THAT WE'RE
GOING TO CHANGE SOMEONE'S
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RELIGION.
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THAT'S RIGHT.
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WE WANT TO FOCUS RATHER
THAN CHANGING A PERSON'S
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RELIGION WE WANT TO
FOCUS ON AH, LOOKING AT OUR
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SIMILAR BELIEFS.
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LOOKING AT THE THINGS
THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN TALK
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ABOUT AND SHARE TOGETHER
AND DRAW CLOSER AS PEOPLE,
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AS INDIVIDUALS.
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PEOPLE WHO HAVE A
DESIRE FOR ALL THE GOOD THINGS
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THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN
THE WORLD HAS A DESIRE FOR AND
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WE DON'T HAVE TO BE
AT ODDS WITH THEM AT ALL.
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I FOUND THEM TO
BE WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
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AND GARY, THIS TAKES
TIME HAVING LIVED IN BUDDHIST
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COUNTRY, HAVING TRAVELED
TO MANY BUDDHIST COUNTRIES
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UM , AND MUSLIM
COUNTRIES THIS TAKES TIME AND I
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THINK OFTEN TIMES
FROM OUR WESTERN CULTURE OF
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CHRISTIANITY AND ALL
OF THAT, IT'S LIKE WELL OF
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COURSE, THIS MAKES
SENSE AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY
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BUT THERE ARE SO MANY
RAMIFICATIONS TO SO MANY
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OF THESE NEW THINGS FOR
THESE PEOPLE BUT NOT ONLY
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IS RELIGION A RELIGION
BUT IT IS ALSO A CULTURE, IT'S
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A WAY OF LIFE, IT'S
HOW THEY LIVE, HOW THEY EAT
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ALL OF THOSE THINGS
AND MANY OF THESE PEOPLE
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OBVIOUSLY, IT IS THEIR
LIFE AND SO, OBVIOUSLY WE
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WANT TO SHARE THE HOPE
AND THE PEACE OF JESUS AND
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THAT'S WHERE THE HOLY
SPIRIT COMES IN AND WE'RE
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WANTING THEM TO SEE
THE JOY IN ALL OF THAT.
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YES, AND GENERALLY
THE MUSLIM PEOPLE ARE NOT
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OFFENDED OR HURT BY
SHARING JESUS WITH THEM
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BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE
IN JESUS JUST AS WE DO.
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THEY BELIEVE SOME THINGS
A BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO
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BUT, AH THEY WOULD HIM
ISA EL MASIH WHICH IS JESUS
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THE MESSIAH AND IT IS
VERY EASY TO TALK WITH THEM
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ABOUT ISA EL MASIH AND
SHARE THE THINGS THAT HE
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DID, THE THINGS THAT
HE SAID AND SHARE THE FACT
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THAT HE IS GOING TO COME
BACK AGAIN BEFORE THE END
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OF TIME AND FOR SEVENTH
DAY ADVENTISTS TO BE ABLE
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TO TALK WITH MUSLIM
PEOPLE IT'S VERY EASY BECAUSE
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THERE ARE SO MANY OF
OUR BELIEFS THAT ARE VERY
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SIMILAR TO WHAT THE
MUSLIMS BELIEVE FROM THEIR
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QURAN.
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SO, WHAT WAS ONE OF
THINGS THAT YOU PARTICIPATED IN,
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GARY, ON YOUR TRIP TO INDONESIA?
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I WAS PRIVILEGED TO BE
ABLE TO VISIT WITH SOME OF
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OUR GOSPEL OUTREACH
VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE BEEN
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WORKING FOR QUITE A
LONG TIME TO DEVELOP TRUST
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BUILDING ACTIVITIES.
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TIMES WHEN YOU GET
TOGETHER WITH PEOPLE WHO
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BELIEVE SOME THINGS
DIFFERENT THAN YOU DO AND
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IT IS NOT THAT YOU
AVOID TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS
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THAT ARE DIFFERENT
BETWEEN YOU BUT IT IS JUST THAT
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YOU TALK ABOUT THEM IN
A WAY THAT SHOWS THAT YOU
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HAVE RESPECT FOR THEM,
THAT YOU WOULD WANT THEM
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TO HAVE FOR YOU.
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AND SO, SOME OF OUR
GOSPEL OUTREACH VOLUNTEERS IN
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INDONESIA FOR QUITE SOME
TIME HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING
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THIS TRUST
BUILDING RETREATS AND TRUST
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BUILDING ACTIVITIES AND
ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT
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YOU DO TO BUILD TRUST IS
JUST TO SIT DOWN TOGETHER
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AND EAT.
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AND TALK ABOUT THE
THINGS THAT YOU LIKE AND DON'T
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LIKE.
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TALK ABOUT THE SCRIPTURES.
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IN FACT, THE PICTURE
THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS
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SITTING DOWN IN THE
HOME OF A GOSPEL OUTREACH
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VOLUNTEER AND HIS WIFE
WHO HAVE ACTUALLY OPENED UP
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THEIR HOME TO OTHER
PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY WHEN
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THEY HAD DIFFICULT TIMES.
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STUDENTS WHO NEEDED A
PLACE TO STAY WHILE THEY
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WERE AT THE UNIVERSITY.
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A YOUNG MAN WHO WAS ON
THE OUTS WITH HIS FATHER
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COULDN'T GO HOME AND JUST
STAYED HERE WITH ANPAN AND
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HIS WIFE FOR TWO YEARS.
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AND THIS ENDED UP BUILDING
GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH
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NOT JUST THE YOUNG MAN
WHO STAYED BUT ALSO AFTER THE
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FAMILY WAS JOINED
TOGETHER AGAIN, UH HAVING BUILT
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GOOD RELATIONSHIPS
WITH THAT FAMILY TOO, SO,
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SITTING AND EATING
TOGETHER AND TALKING
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TOGETHER IS A WONDERFUL
THING AND SO THIS LED TO
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SOMETHING ELSE THAT I
WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN.
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WE HAD WHAT'S CALLED A
TRUST BUILDING RETREAT AND
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AT THIS TRUST BUILDING
RETREAT WE HAD- I COUNTED
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31 PEOPLE.
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HALF WERE CHRISTIANS
AND NOT ALL WERE SEVENTH DAY
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ADVENTISTS, MOST WERE.
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THE OTHER HALF WERE
MUSLIMS AND IT'S EASY TO
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SEE WHO WAS WHO AT
LEAST FOR THE MEN, FOR THE
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WOMEN, THE WOMEN, CAN
TELL WHICH ONES ARE MUSLIMS AND
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WHICH ONES AREN'T BUT AH,
I KIND OF STUCK OUT IN THE
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GROUP.
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IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT I
WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN
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THE REST OF THEM BUT
THEY ACCEPTED ME AS JUST A
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MEMBER OF THAT EXERCISE
AND WE SPENT THREE DAYS,
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THREE NIGHTS
TOGETHER DOING ACTIVITIES THAT
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HELPED US TO
UNDERSTAND THOSE FROM THE OTHER
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RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND.
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THESE ARE THE LEADERS
ON THE LEFT, YOU SEE THE
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MUSLIM LEADERS OF THIS MOVEMENT.
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ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE THE
ADVENTIST LEADERS OF THIS
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MOVEMENT AND THEY HAVE
THESE TRUST BUILDING AH,
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RETREATS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
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I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO
GET TO ANOTHER ONE WHEN I GO
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BACK AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
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BUT THERE WAS NOTHING
THAT HAPPENED THERE THAT AH,
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WAS FRIGHTENING.
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NOTHING THAT WAS DANGEROUS.
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WHAT WE DID HAVE WAS
SOMETHING WE'LL TALK ABOUT
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IT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
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WONDERFUL.
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WELL, GARY THANK YOU FOR
JOINING US AND WE WANT TO
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SAY THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE WITH US ON
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"ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS".
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ISN'T IT EXCITING,
BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO
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LEARN ABOUT THINGS
THAT ARE GOING ON IN OTHER
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COUNTRIES AND SPECIFICALLY
HEAR ABOUT INDONESIA?
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AND SO, WE WOULD
ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO BE
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INVOLVED WITH GOSPEL
OUTREACH AND WE THANK YOU.
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EARTH, VAST, BEAUTIFUL
BUT TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AND YOU
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CAN SEE THE PAIN OF
A WORLD ON A COLLISION
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COURSE WITH ITS OWN GREED.
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HUMANITY NEED LOVE.
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WE NEED HOPE.
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WE NEED A SAVIOR.
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MORE THAN ONE THIRD OF
THE WORLDS SEVEN BILLION
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PEOPLE STILLNEED TO
HEAR ABOUT GOD'S LOVE AND HIS
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PLAN TO SAVE US.
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ONE THIRD IN SUCH A BIG
WORLD, IT'S EASY TO FEEL
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SMALL BUT YOU CAN
MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
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PARTNER WITH GOSPEL
OUTREACH TO FUND BIBLE
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WORKES WHO ARE
MISSIONARIES IN THEIR OWN
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VILLAGES, TOWNS AND CITIES.
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THEY SHARE THE LIFE
CHANGING LOVE IN THE STORY
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OF JESUS CHRIST.
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THANK YOU FOR GIVING.
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TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE A
DIFFERENCE SO THAT ALL THE
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WORLD MAY KNOW JESUS.
00:14:22.32\00:14:25.59
AND WELCOME BACK.
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WE ARE TRAVELING TO
INDONESIA HERE WITH GARY
00:14:26.59\00:14:28.43
WAGNER WHO IS THE REGIONAL
DIRECTOR FOR INDONESIA AND
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HE'S BEEN SHARING WITH
US ABOUT A RETREAT BETWEEN
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MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS
AND IT WAS A THREE DAY EVENT
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AND GARY WAS ABLE TO
ATTEND AND GARY I REMEMBER
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KEITH HEINRICH WHO
FORMERLY WAS IN THE
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DIRECTOR ROLE THAT YOU
ARE IN NOW AND I REMEMBER HIM
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SHARING ABOUT A
PREVIOUS SEMINAR LIKE THIS, A
00:14:47.05\00:14:49.82
RETREAT, AND A VERY
INFORMATIVE, VERY KIND OF,
00:14:49.85\00:14:52.75
YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL
AND HE HAD MANY GREAT THINGS
00:14:52.79\00:14:55.46
TO SAY ABOUT IT
AS YOU DO HERE TODAY.
00:14:55.49\00:14:57.03
YES, I APPRECIATE KEITH'S
LEADERSHIP IN THIS AREA UH
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BECAUSE HE I THINK IS
ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO AH,
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ESTABLISHED THE VERY
WORK THAT I'M BECOMING A SMALL
00:15:10.47\00:15:15.54
PART IN NOW.
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WHAT IT ALSO MADE ME
SMILE IS HAVING LIVED AND
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TRAVELED IN THE 10/40
WINDOW IN THE PICTURE THAT
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YOU HAD WITH THE GOSPEL
OUTREACH WORKER, A BOX OF
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KLEENEX, A BOTTLE OF
WATER AND BANANAS AND THERE ARE
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- AND BIBLES, AND THERE
ARE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS
00:15:31.43\00:15:34.36
THAT CAN BE HAD OVER
THOSE THINGS SO KIND OF MADE ME
00:15:34.36\00:15:38.23
SMILE THERE IN THE PICTURES.
00:15:38.27\00:15:39.57
SO, UM THIS RETREAT
THOUGH GARY, IT WAS A VERY WHAT?
00:15:39.60\00:15:45.84
EDUCATIONAL TIME AND WHAT
ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT
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YOU FOLKS DISCUSSED THERE?
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THERE WERE A LOT OF
THINGS THAT WE DID AT THE
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RETREAT.
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ONE OF THEM WAS IN ORDER
TO BE ABLE TO BUILD TRUST
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YOU HAVE TO TALK
ABOUT THE DIFFICULT TOPICS.
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SO, WE HAD AN EXERCISE
WHERE WE DIVIDED AH, THE
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31 PEOPLE IN THE GROUP
INTO FOUR SMALLER GROUPS
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AND INITIALLY, THERE
WERE TWO GROUPS OF MUSLIMS AND
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TWO GROUPS OF CHRISTIANS
AND WE WOULD TALK IN OUR
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GROUP AH, THE
MUSLIMS WOULD TALK ABOUT THE
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INCIDENTS THAT THEY KNEW
ABOUT WHERE THE CHRISTIANS
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HAD DONE THINGS AH, TO
HARM THE MUSLIMS AND OF
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COURSE, THE CHRISTIANS
WOULD WRITE THE THINGS
00:16:32.62\00:16:34.62
THAT THEY KNEW ABOUT
THAT THE MUSLIMS HAD DONE TO
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HARM THE CHRISTIANS.
00:16:38.39\00:16:39.86
THEN AFTER WE DID THAT,
AH, THE PURPOSE OF COURSE,
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WASN'T TO BUILD ANGER,NO,
WHICH WE COULD HAVE DONE
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BUT TO THEN SHARE WE
DIVIDED UP THE GROUPS AND
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THEN PUT IN EACH OF THE
FOUR GROUPS HALF MUSLIMS
00:16:56.75\00:17:03.22
AND HALF CHRISTIANS
SO THEN THE FORMERLY
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CHRISTIAN GROUPS WOULD
TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT
00:17:07.79\00:17:11.23
THEY HAD WRITTEN DOWN
THAT THE MUSLIMS HAD DONE, THAT
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SOME MUSLIMS I'D HAVE
TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE IT
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CERTAINLY WAS ALL
MUSLIMS BUT , SURE, BUT MUSLIMS
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HAD DONE AH TO HURT
CHRISTIANS AND THEN GET AN
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OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS
00:17:29.24\00:17:32.55
THEN IN THAT GROUP
TO DISCUSS THOSE THINGS.
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IT JUST HAPPENED THAT
SOME OF THE UH, YOUNG MEN IN
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THE GROUP THAT I
WAS IN HAD BEEN IN A AH,
00:17:42.36\00:17:47.40
PATHFINDER EVENT IN
A MAJOR CITY THERE IN
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INDONESIA AND THAT
EVENT WAS ATTACKED BY SOME
00:17:55.34\00:17:58.54
MUSLIMS WITH MACHETES AND
SO THE MUSLIMS WHO WERE IN
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THAT GROUP THEN WERE
SHOCKED AND THEY WERE HURT
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THAT THIS KIND OF THING
WOULD HAPPEN ESPECIALLY TO
00:18:11.09\00:18:15.56
PEOPLE WHO HAD NOW
BECOME THEIR FRIENDS.
00:18:15.59\00:18:18.49
SO, THE MUSLIMS WERE
ALSO DOING THE SAME THING
00:18:18.53\00:18:21.36
TELLING THE CHRISTIANS
WHO HAD JOINED THEIR GROUP THE
00:18:21.40\00:18:25.67
THINGS THE CHRISTIANS
HAD DONE SO THIS GAVE AN
00:18:25.70\00:18:29.60
OPPORTUNITY TO
DISCUSS THESE ISSUES AND TO
00:18:29.64\00:18:33.41
DISCUSS THE THINGS
THAT HAD HAPPENED AND FOR
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APOLOGIES TO BE MADE
ALTHOUGH THE PEOPLE WHO
00:18:37.88\00:18:40.48
WERE THERE HADN'T BEEN
INVOLVED IN THEM BUT TO
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BUILD A SENSE OF AH, OF
JOINT APPRECIATION FOR THE
00:18:44.45\00:18:49.52
FACT THAT THE OTHER
SIDE REALLY DID HAVE SOME
00:18:51.79\00:18:54.46
THINGS THAT WERE
CONCERNING TO THEM BUT BY
00:18:54.46\00:18:57.50
BRINGING THEM INTO THE
OPEN THEN THEY COULD BE
00:18:57.53\00:19:03.44
DISCUSSED AND
ACTUALLY DISMISSED BECAUSE
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EVERYBODY IN THE
GROUP HAD BECOME FRIENDS.
00:19:07.08\00:19:12.08
ANOTHER ACTIVITY THAT
WE DID WAS TO BE IN THOSE
00:19:12.11\00:19:17.82
SMALL GROUPS AGAIN AND
HAVE THE CHRISTIANS WRITE
00:19:17.85\00:19:21.92
WHAT IS IT THAT WE'D
LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THE MUSLIM
00:19:21.96\00:19:25.66
FAITH, MUSLIM BELIEFS
AND WHAT IS IT THAT WE'D LIKE
00:19:25.69\00:19:29.40
TO BE ABLE TO TELL THEM
AH, ABOUT THE WAY WE FEEL
00:19:29.43\00:19:33.47
ABOUT THEIR FAITH AND
THE MUSLIMS WERE DOING THE
00:19:33.50\00:19:38.81
SAME THING ABOUT
CHRISTIAN BELIEFS.
00:19:38.84\00:19:41.64
SO, THEN OF COURSE,
AFTER THAT WAS DONE THEN THE
00:19:41.68\00:19:45.71
GROUPS WERE CHANGED
AGAIN AND EVERYBODY HAD AN
00:19:45.75\00:19:49.92
OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE
THOSE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD
00:19:49.95\00:19:54.22
LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT
FROM THE OTHER BELIEF SYSTEM
00:19:54.26\00:19:58.66
AND ANSWER QUESTIONS
ABOUT WHAT THEY BELIEVED TO
00:19:58.69\00:20:02.93
OTHER SIDE.
00:20:02.96\00:20:03.70
IT WAS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE.
00:20:03.73\00:20:06.53
A WONDERFUL AH, DISCUSSION
GOING BACK AND FORTH AND
00:20:06.57\00:20:11.47
IT GOT TO THE PLACE
WHERE BOTH SIDES WERE MORE FREE
00:20:11.51\00:20:16.58
TO ACTUALLY ASK MORE
QUESTIONS AND PROBING
00:20:18.61\00:20:23.12
QUESTIONS AND EVEN
DIFFICULT QUESTIONS AND IT
00:20:23.15\00:20:27.36
NEVER ONCE GOT TO
THE PLACE WHERE THERE WAS
00:20:27.39\00:20:31.36
ANTAGONISM SO, IT WAS
A FASCINATING TIME TO BE
00:20:31.39\00:20:34.83
ABLE TO BE TOGETHER
THEN WE HAD EVENTS THAT JUST
00:20:34.83\00:20:39.03
ANY OTHER GROUP
ON A SATURDAY NIGHT.
00:20:39.07\00:20:43.47
NOW WE MET ALL DAY FRIDAY
WHICH WAS THE MUSLIMS HOLY
00:20:43.51\00:20:47.74
DAY, IF YOU WANT TO CALL
IT THAT, AND THEN WE ALSO
00:20:47.78\00:20:53.82
MET ON SABBATH WHICH IS
THE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST
00:20:53.85\00:20:58.39
HOLY DAY AH, AND BY
DOING THAT WE WERE HONORING THE
00:20:58.42\00:21:04.19
PEOPLE WHO WE WERE WITH
UH BUT WE WERE NOT EXPECTED
00:21:04.23\00:21:07.60
IN ANYWAY TO GIVE UP
ANY OF OUR OWN PERSONAL
00:21:07.66\00:21:10.23
BELIEFS NOR WERE THEY.
00:21:10.27\00:21:11.67
SO, THAT WAS A BIG THING.
00:21:11.70\00:21:13.17
BUT ON FRIDAY NIGHT WE
HAD WHAT ADVENTISTS OFTEN DO
00:21:13.20\00:21:19.04
ON A RETREAT AND THAT
IS DIVIDE INTO GROUPS AND
00:21:19.07\00:21:25.25
EVERYBODY HAVE A TALENT SHOW.
00:21:25.28\00:21:28.35
YOU DID THAT ON SATURDAY NIGHT?
00:21:28.38\00:21:32.09
SATURDAY NIGHT, YES.
00:21:32.12\00:21:33.92
UH HUH.
00:21:33.96\00:21:35.36
MY GROUP CAME TO ME AND
SAID, WE'RE GOING TO SING
00:21:35.39\00:21:38.63
A SONG.
00:21:38.66\00:21:39.46
I SAID, REALLY
THAT'S INTERESTING.
00:21:39.49\00:21:41.00
WHAT SONG ARE WE GOING TO SING?
00:21:41.03\00:21:43.37
BECAUSE IT WAS OBVIOUS
IF YOU SAW THE PICTURES THAT
00:21:43.40\00:21:49.30
THERE WAS A LOT OF
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
00:21:49.34\00:21:54.08
GENERATIONS THERE OF ALL
OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE
00:21:54.11\00:21:57.15
GROUP AND THEN ME.
00:21:57.18\00:21:58.68
SO, WE FINALLY CAME
TOGETHER ON A JOHN DENVER
00:21:58.71\00:22:02.95
SONG AH, THAT WAS
AH, "COUNTRY ROADS".
00:22:02.98\00:22:07.69
THERE YOU GO.
00:22:07.72\00:22:10.19
AND AS WE WERE PRACTICING
THEY NOTICED THAT THERE
00:22:10.23\00:22:15.86
WAS A PHRASE IN THE
SONG THAT SAID THAT THE TREES
00:22:15.90\00:22:20.20
WERE OLDER THAN THE
HILLS AND SUDDENLY THEY STOPPED
00:22:20.24\00:22:24.27
AND SAID, OH, YOU'RE
OLDER THAN THE HILLS.
00:22:24.31\00:22:29.58
WE SHOULD HAVE YOU
STAND AND DO SOMETHING VERY
00:22:29.61\00:22:35.55
INTERESTING AT THAT
TIME AND SO, WE DID.
00:22:35.58\00:22:40.82
THEY ALL POINTED TO ME
DURING THAT PART OF THE
00:22:40.86\00:22:45.83
SONG AND THEN THERE IS A
PICTURE OF THAT YOU'LL SEE
00:22:45.86\00:22:47.93
AND AFTER THAT EVERYTIME
THERE WAS A BREAK, THE MC
00:22:47.96\00:22:52.50
OF THE EVENT WOULD PLAY
THE SONG "COUNTRY ROADS"
00:22:52.53\00:22:57.61
SO IT WAS QUITE
AN INTERESTING THING.
00:23:00.28\00:23:06.25
KIND OF YOUR LITTLE THEME THERE.
00:23:06.28\00:23:10.85
WE HAD A WONDERFUL TIME
AND I WAS JUST BLEST TO BE
00:23:10.89\00:23:16.73
ABLE TO LEARN SO MUCH
ABOUT THE MUSLIM FAITH AND
00:23:16.76\00:23:21.40
BECOME AN ACCEPTED
PERSON IN THIS GROUP OF YOUNG
00:23:21.43\00:23:26.70
ADULTS.
00:23:26.74\00:23:27.70
WELL, I THINK THAT'S
FABULOUS AND THE QUESTION
00:23:27.74\00:23:30.07
IS DID YOU ALL PRAY TOGETHER?
00:23:30.11\00:23:32.71
YES, WE DID.
00:23:32.74\00:23:33.78
YES, AND WHEN WE PRAY
WE, WE PRAY TO GOD BUT AT THE
00:23:33.81\00:23:40.15
END OF IT WE PRAY AND
THEN IN THE NAME OF ISA EL
00:23:40.18\00:23:45.72
MASIH WHICH WE
CERTAINLY BELIEVE IN.
00:23:45.75\00:23:48.26
WE BELIEVE JESUS IS THE
MESSIAH AND THEY WERE NOT
00:23:48.29\00:23:52.16
OFFENDED AT ALL AND
WHEN THEY PRAYED, THEY PRAYED
00:23:52.19\00:23:57.50
WHATEVER, ALLAH, THEY
DO TO ALLAH CERTAINLY.
00:23:57.53\00:24:02.40
AH, BUT THEY WERE
PRAYING IN INDONESIAN SO I
00:24:02.44\00:24:08.74
HONESTLY, COULDN'T TELL
YOU WHAT THE CLOSE OF THE
00:24:08.78\00:24:12.18
PRAYER WAS BUT THAT'S OK.
00:24:12.21\00:24:16.32
YES, GOD UNDERSTANDS.
00:24:16.35\00:24:18.55
GOD UNDERSTANDS.
00:24:18.59\00:24:19.55
WELL, GARY THANK YOU
FOR SHARING THAT WITH US AND
00:24:19.59\00:24:21.66
AS YOU ARE THEN -YOU
SHARED THAT WITH US BUT
00:24:21.69\00:24:24.09
THEN YOU ARE ALSO
WORKING WITH THE UNIONS THERE IN
00:24:24.13\00:24:28.03
INDONESIA AND IF
INDONESIA IS THE FOURTH LARGEST
00:24:28.06\00:24:32.93
POPULATED COUNTRY IN OUR
WORLD, THAT MEANS THAT WE
00:24:32.97\00:24:36.10
NEED MORE GOSPEL
OUTREACH WORKERS, CORRECT?
00:24:36.14\00:24:39.37
YES, AND IT'S PROVEN A
LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO BE
00:24:39.41\00:24:43.18
ABLE TO MAKE THE CONTACTS
WITH THE LEADERSHIP IN THE
00:24:43.21\00:24:46.28
TWO UNIONS AND JUST TO
KIND OF TELL THIS QUICKLY,
00:24:46.31\00:24:50.99
ONE OF THE PEOPLE I MET
JUST NOT KNOWING WHAT ROLE
00:24:51.02\00:24:56.09
THIS WAS GOING TO PLAY
WAS A PASTOR IN MAKASSAR AND
00:24:58.06\00:25:02.56
HE -I TOLD HIM WHAT
GOSPEL OUTREACH DOES AND HE
00:25:02.60\00:25:08.20
INVITED ME TO SPEAK TO
HIS CONFERENCE PRESIDENT BUT
00:25:08.24\00:25:13.27
HE WASN'T AROUND
SO I WASN'T ABLE TO.
00:25:13.31\00:25:17.81
BUT THEN WHEN I CAME
BACK HOME, AH I WAS HOME FOR
00:25:17.85\00:25:24.59
ABOUT TEN HOURS AND THEN
DROVE TO AH ST. LOUIS FOR
00:25:24.62\00:25:30.19
THE GENERAL CONFERENCE
SESSION, AND THIS PASTOR'S
00:25:30.23\00:25:34.30
CONFERENCE PRESIDENT
FOUND ME THERE AND WE DISCUSSED
00:25:34.30\00:25:40.27
WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE
AND THEN HE INTRODUCED ME TO
00:25:40.30\00:25:43.34
THE UNION PRESIDENT WHO
WAS ALSO ATTENDING THERE
00:25:43.37\00:25:46.54
AND THROUGH THOSE
DISCUSSIONS OF THE WAY GOD
00:25:46.57\00:25:50.81
ORGANIZED THESE MEETINGS,
THESE MAYBE HAPPENSTANCE
00:25:50.85\00:25:55.42
MEETINGS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE
TO AH, OPEN UP THE WORK OF
00:25:55.45\00:26:02.19
GOSPEL OUTREACH
IN INDONESIA INTO 21
00:26:02.22\00:26:05.93
DIFFERENT CONFERENCES
AND MISSIONS WHERE WE WILL BE
00:26:05.96\00:26:10.30
TRYING OVER THE NEXT FEW
YEARS TO PUT FIVE TEAMS OF
00:26:10.33\00:26:16.37
TWO GOSPEL OUTREACH
WORKERS VOLUNTEERS INTO
00:26:16.40\00:26:19.67
EACH CONFERENCE OR
MISSION TO BEGIN WITH AND BEGIN
00:26:19.71\00:26:24.65
SPREADING THIS
WONDERFUL MESSAGE THROUGHOUT
00:26:24.68\00:26:27.42
INDONESIA IN THIS WAY AND
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE
00:26:27.45\00:26:32.95
NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO
OURSELVES BUT GOD HAD IT
00:26:32.99\00:26:36.32
ALL WORKED OUT TO BE ABLE
TO MEET WITH ALL THE RIGHT
00:26:36.36\00:26:40.93
PEOPLE.
00:26:40.96\00:26:41.56
GOD DOES.
00:26:41.60\00:26:42.30
GOD DOES.
00:26:42.33\00:26:43.30
SO, I'M HEARING FROM
YOU THAT AH, WE NEED TO HAVE
00:26:43.33\00:26:47.07
SOME MORE GOSPEL
OUTREACH WORKERS IN THIS AREA OF
00:26:47.10\00:26:50.41
THE WORLD THAT IS SO
HEAVILY POPULATED AND THAT
00:26:50.44\00:26:53.17
COMES FROM OUR VIEWERS
AND THE SUPPORTERS OF GOSPEL
00:26:53.21\00:26:56.08
OUTREACH.
00:26:56.11\00:26:57.11
SO, GARY THANK YOU FOR
SHARING WITH US AND OUR
00:26:57.15\00:26:59.48
GREETINGS TO THE GOSPEL
OUTREACH WORKERS THERE AND
00:26:59.51\00:27:01.72
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
YOUR LEADERSHIP THERE AND FOR
00:27:01.75\00:27:04.52
SHARING WITH US HERE TODAY.
00:27:04.55\00:27:05.62
IT IS MY PLEASURE AND I
REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THE
00:27:05.65\00:27:08.69
HELP FROM OUR VIEWERS
AND OUR SUPPORTERS TO BE ABLE
00:27:08.72\00:27:12.33
TO GO FROM HAVING SIX
GOSPEL OUTREACH VOLUNTEERS
00:27:12.36\00:27:16.70
IN INDONESIA TO HAVING 210.
00:27:16.73\00:27:19.77
WELL, THANK YOU GARY
AND YOU HAVE HEARD THE NEED
00:27:19.80\00:27:23.77
AND YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT
THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE
00:27:23.81\00:27:25.74
HAPPENING IN INDONESIA
AND WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
00:27:25.77\00:27:28.51
SO MUCH.
00:27:28.54\00:27:29.48
ON BEHALF OF GOSPEL
OUTREACH AND "ADVENTURES
00:27:29.51\00:27:31.48
IN MISSIONS" I'M JULIE
AND MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU
00:27:31.51\00:27:33.45
TODAY.
00:27:33.48\00:27:34.12
[CLOSING MUSIC].
00:27:34.15\00:27:38.45