Adventures in Missions

His Other Sheep

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Ole Olesen (Host), Gerald Babanezhad

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Series Code: AIM

Program Code: AIM000694A


00:00 [OPENING MUSIC].
00:14 I WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS
00:18 HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH.
00:19 IT'S A JOY TO HEAR THE STORIES, TO SHARE THEM
00:22 WITH YOU AND TO HAVE YOU BECOME A PARTICIPANT
00:27 WHETHER IN YOUR HEART AT FIRST AND THEN WITH YOUR
00:30 FUNDING LATER.
00:31 WE'RE HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BECOME INVESTED IN
00:35 THE MISSIONS THAT ARE GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD
00:37 THROUGH THE MINISTRY OF GOSPEL OUTREACH.
00:40 TODAY I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO A GUEST.
00:43 HIS NAME IS GERALD BABANEZHAD.
00:45 IS THAT RIGHT?
00:46 SURE.
00:46 WELCOME TO THE TABLE.
00:47 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, THANK YOU.
00:50 YOU'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF A CAMERA A FEW TIMES
00:52 YOURSELF.
00:53 YES.
00:54 YOU HAVE A MISSION AND YOU HAVE A MINISTRY AND I'M
00:57 GOING TO ASK YOU TO START OUT BY TELLING THE VIEWERS
01:01 A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU DO AND WHERE YOU DO
01:04 IT?
01:05 OKAY.
01:06 BY GOD'S GRACE I AM INVOLVED ON MULTIPLE
01:10 CAPACITIES.
01:11 IN OTHER WORDS I CHANGE HATS QUITE OFTEN.
01:14 OKAY.
01:15 AT THIS MOMENT I AM THE COORDINATOR FOR THE MUSLIM
01:20 MINISTRIES FOR THE PACIFIC UNION CONFERENCE WHICH
01:23 WORKS VERY FLUIDLY WITH THE OTHER UNIONS AND
01:27 DIVISIONS WITHIN THE NORTH AMERICAN DIVISION.
01:30 OKAY.
01:31 JUST FOR OUR VIEWERS, IF YOU'RE NOT ACQUAINTED,
01:34 PACIFIC UNION CONFERENCE INCLUDES QUITE A FEW
01:37 STATES ON THE WEST COAST.
01:39 SURE, YES.
01:40 FIVE STATES, TECHNICALLY FIVE STATES ON THE WEST
01:41 COAST.
01:42 DO YOU WANT ME TO NAME THE STATES?
01:44 THAT'S OKAY BUT THEIR THE SOUTHERN, THE SOUTHERN
01:46 ONES ON THE WEST COAST.
01:48 CORRECT.
01:49 OKAY AND THIS IS WITH THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST
01:50 CHURCH.
01:51 WITH THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH.
01:52 AND PRIOR TO THIS I WOULD SAY I INITIALLY WAS
01:58 EXPOSED TO THE CHALLENGE OF THE UNREACHED COMPONENT
02:04 OF THE GREAT COMMISSION AND GOSPEL OUTREACH WAS
02:07 EXTREMELY GENEROUS IN THE PAST.
02:11 THE YEAR 2008 WAS WHEN I BEGAN PRODUCING AND
02:15 BROADCASTING FOR GOSPEL OUTREACH SO GOSPEL
02:18 OUTREACH WAS GENEROUS ENOUGH TO FUND QUITE A
02:22 NUMBER OF OUR PROGRAMS IN TWO LANGUAGES.
02:25 IN FARSI AND ARMENIAN FOR THE REGION THAT IS
02:29 TECHNICALLY KNOWN AS CENTRAL ASIA WHICH COVERS
02:31 THE AREAS OF IRAN, AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN, THE
02:35 ARAB EMIRATES, TURKEY.
02:37 BUT BY GOD'S GRACE THOSE TELEVISION SHOWS, EVEN
02:40 THOUGH WE PRODUCED THOSE SERIES ABOUT FOUR YEARS
02:43 AGO FINISHED THEM FOUR YEARS AGO, HOPE CHANNEL
02:46 MIDDLE EAST NOW IS BROADCASTING THEM.
02:49 OKAY.
02:50 AND OF COURSE WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE AIR TIME
02:53 FOR THESE PROGRAMS SINCE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF
02:57 PRODUCING NEW ONES.
02:58 AND WE ARE BROADENING THE SCOPE OF THE MATERIALS
03:04 THAT WE ARE PRESENTING.
03:05 BECAUSE WE NOTICED FROM THE VERY FIRST NIGHT THAT
03:09 WE STARTED BROADCASTING WE WERE INUNDATED BY CALLS,
03:13 CONTACTS, EMAILS, TEXTS BY MUSLIM VIEWERS BOTH IN THE
03:19 WESTERN HEMISPHERE AND THE EASTERN.
03:21 YOU DESCRIBE YOUR POSITION WITH THE PACIFIC UNION.
03:27 THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE THERE WHO SPEAK THESE
03:29 LANGUAGES AREN'T THERE?
03:29 YES.
03:30 I WOULD SAY ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF, MILION
03:32 AND A H ALF, IRANIANS IN CALIFORNIA AND ABOUT A
03:36 MILLION IN THE EAST COAST AND WHAT GOD HAS BLESSED
03:41 IS BECOMING MORE EVIDENT BY THE DAY BECAUSE WE ARE
03:44 FINDING OUT THAT OUR WEBSITES AND OUR
03:48 TELEVISION PROGRAMS ARE BEING VIEWED BY IRANIANS
03:52 AND ARABS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND SOME VIEWERS
03:56 TAKE THE STUDY GUIDES AND THE MATERIALS THAT WE HAVE
04:01 POSTED.
04:02 BY STUDYING THOSE THEY GO TO THE LOCAL, THEY FIND A
04:05 LOCAL ADVENTIST CHURCH IN THEIR COUNTRIES WHETHER IN
04:08 EUROPE, WHETHER IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
04:09 AND I JUST GOT A CALL TWO DAYS AGO FROM A CONTACT OF
04:13 MINE IN ENGLAND AND HE SAID THAT WE JUST
04:16 WITNESSED THE BAPTISM OF SOME IRANIANS THAT HAD
04:21 BEEN EDUCATED ON YOUR WEBSITES AND WE DIDN'T
04:23 EVEN KNOW IT.
04:24 AMAZING.
04:25 WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT SO PRAISE GOD.
04:27 THAT IS WONDERFUL.
04:28 PRAISE GOD.
04:29 SO THE LANGUAGE IS NOW IN A DIASPORA AROUND THE
04:33 WHOLE WORLD.
04:34 YES AND ONE OF THE FEATURES THAT WE HAVE ON
04:35 OUR WEBSITES, WE HAVE TWO NETWORKS OF WEBSITES WITH
04:40 ALL THE AFFILIATE SOCIAL NETWORKS AND MOBILE APPS,
04:43 AND ON ONE OF THE WEBSITES THAT I WILL GIVE THE
04:46 INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN, WE ALSO TEACH THE
04:49 LANGUAGES FOR THE ENQUIRERS YOU KNOW.
04:52 IF THEY COME ON OUR SCREEN AND THEY SAY WELL I'D LOVE
04:54 TO BE ABLE TO MINISTER TO THE MUSLIMS BUT I DON'T
04:58 KNOW HOW.
04:59 WE PROVIDE THE TRAINING RIGHT ON OUR WEBSITE
05:01 INCLUDING TEACHING THE LANGUAGES OF MUSLIMS LIKE
05:04 ARABIC, TURKISH, FARSI.
05:07 AND SO WE MADE IT A POINT TO EQUIP ANYONE ANYWHERE
05:13 AROUND THE WORLD EVEN IF WE DON'T PERSONALLY
05:16 CONNECT WITH THEM TO EQUIP THEM TO, BE ABLE TO
05:19 MINISTER TO THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY IN A MEANINGFUL
05:24 TANGIBLE SUSTAINABLE WAY.
05:28 AND WE ALWAYS MAKE IT A POINT THAT THE MUSLIM
05:32 VIEWERS AROUND THE WORLD KNOW THE UNIQUENESS AND
05:35 THE, I WOULD SAY, THE INCOMPARABLE
05:41 CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ADVENT MESSAGE.
05:45 REALLY.
05:46 BECAUSE MOST MUSLIMS WHEN THEY DO COME ACROSS OUR
05:49 WEBSITES OR SEE OUR SHOWS THE FIRST THING THAT THEY
05:53 WOULD REACT TO IS YOU'RE DIFFERENT.
05:56 FIRST OF ALL YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME SLOGANS LIKE
05:59 MOST CHRISTIAN NETWORKS DO.
06:01 BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE NOTICING YOU'RE NOT
06:03 INTIMIDATING OR DISRESPECTING THE PROPHET
06:06 OF ISLAM, THE RELIGION OF ISLAM OR THE HOLY BOOK OF
06:09 KORAN AND IN FACT YOU'RE QUOTING FROM THE KORAN.
06:12 YES.
06:13 WHAT IS THIS ABOUT YOU GUYS?
06:14 YES,.
06:14 AND IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT MANY MUSLIMS ONCE THEY
06:18 COME ACROSS ON OUR WEBSITES, THEY NOTICE THAT
06:20 THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ALIENATION.
06:22 THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE INTIMIDATION.
06:24 THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ARGUMENTS AND QUARRELING.
06:27 AND SO THEY ENGAGE US IN MANY DEEP QUESTIONS BOTH
06:31 FROM THE BIBLE AND BOTH FROM THE KORAN.
06:34 AND SO I PRAISE GOD THAT THEY ARE SEEING THE
06:36 UNIQUENESS OF THE ADVENT PEOPLE.
06:38 WELL THAT IS A VERY SPECIAL THING.
06:40 IS IT YOUR AWARENESS OR YOUR PERCEPTION THAT THERE
06:44 MAY BE FEWER BARRIERS BETWEEN ISLAM AND THE
06:48 FAITH THAT SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS HAVE?
06:51 WELL LET ME LAY IT OUT THIS WAY.
06:53 AT THIS MOMENT WE ARE PRODUCING THE 28 ADVENTIST
06:59 BIBLICAL BELIEFS, THE FOUNDATIONAL BELIEFS.
07:01 WHICH IN MY OPINION THEY INCORPORATE THE WHOLE
07:04 SCOPE OF THE SCRIPTURES.
07:05 OKAY.
07:06 I MEAN THERE IS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY AND
07:09 TALENT AND THEOLOGY THAT HAS BEEN PUT IN THOSE
07:14 UNDERSTANDINGS, THOSE 28 FUNDAMENTALS.
07:16 YOU'LL BE AMAZED THAT MUSLIMS RESONATE WITH 20
07:21 OF THEM VERY STRONGLY.
07:23 OKAY.
07:23 TWENTY OUT OF THE 28.
07:24 SO OUT OF THE 28 ADVENTIST FUNDAMENTAL BELIEFS
07:27 MUSLIMS, AND THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW THE
07:29 STATISTICS AND THE RESEARCH THAT I DO, THEY
07:31 RESONATE VERY STRONGLY WITH 20 OF THEM.
07:34 WHEREAS THE EVANGELICAL SECTOR IN AMERICA ONLY
07:39 SHARE 13 OF THEM.
07:41 THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
07:42 SO WE SHARE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR FUNDAMENTAL BELIEFS
07:45 OF THE BIBLE, OF GOD, OF GOD'S KINGDOM AND
07:47 EVERYTHING, MUSLIMS RESONATE WITH 20 OF THEM.
07:50 SO WE SHARE MOE IN COMMON WITH ISLAM THAN WE DO WITH
07:54 THE OTHER SECTORS OF CHRISTIANITY.
07:55 THAT IS FASCINATING ISN'T IT.
07:57 AND DO YOU EVER GET TO MEET SOME OF THESE PEOPLE
08:02 OR DOES YOUR MINISTRY HAVE TO BE MOSTLY QUIET.
08:05 ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AGAIN FOR THE SAKE OF
08:09 SENSITIVITY OF THE SUBJECT MATTER I WILL REFRAIN FROM
08:13 SAYING EXACTLY WHERE BUT, IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA I
08:16 THINK THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH, ABOUT A MONTH AGO
08:20 (LAUGHTER), VERY BIG MISSION FIELD I TELL YOU
08:25 THAT, WE DID A JOINT WORSHIP SERVICE WITH A
08:29 MUSLIM COMMUNITY AND THE ADVENTIST COMMUNITY IN THE
08:32 ADVENTIST CHURCH IN ONE OF THE CITIES IN SOUTHERN
08:35 CALIFORNIA.
08:36 WE HAD A TWO HOUR WORSHIP SESSION AND IT WAS
08:39 INCREDIBLE.
08:40 EVERY TIME I SAY THIS I GET GOOSE BUMPS.
08:42 IT WAS RIGHT AT THE TIME, WE DIDN'T PLAN IT THIS WAY
08:45 BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE RIGHT AT THE TIME, OF THE
08:47 AFTERNOON PRAYER TIME FOR MUSLIMS.
08:50 SO ABOUT A HUNDRED OR SO MUSLIMS INCLUDING THE
08:55 IMAMS AND THE LEADERS WERE IN THE CHURCH.
08:57 BUT AT THE TIME APPOINTED FOR PRAYER THEY EXCUSED
09:02 THEMSELVES.
09:03 THEY WENT TO THE FOYER OF THE CHURCH AND THEY DID
09:05 THEIR PRAYER SERVICE WHEREAS AT THE SAME TIME
09:08 OUR PEOPLE IN CHURCH WERE READING THE SCRIPTURES IN
09:12 SOLITUDE AND IT WAS, IT WAS A VERY I WOULD SAY
09:15 UNIQUE TIME OF WORSHIP.
09:17 AND THEN AFTERWARDS FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS WE HAD A
09:21 WORSHIP SESSION.
09:22 AND I WAS MODERATING THE WHOLE PROGRAM AND IT WAS
09:25 INCREDIBLE THAT ADVENTISTS COULD QUESTION ANYTHING
09:29 THAT THEY WANTED AND THE MUSLIM LEADERSHIP ON THE
09:33 PODIUM GRACEFULLY RESPONDED TO THEIR
09:36 QUESTIONS AND MUSLIMS COULD ASK ANYTHING THAT
09:39 THEY WANTED FROM CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP AND OUR
09:41 ADVENTISTS PASTORS WERE ON THE PODIUM.
09:44 AND SO AFTER TWO HOURS WE HAD AN HOUR DINNER, WE
09:49 HUGGED AND KISSED AND WE SAID GOODBYE.
09:52 YOU KNOW ONE ADVENTIST PASTOR TOLD ME ONE TIME
09:59 TWO DAYS AFTER THE SAN BERNARDINO SHOOTINGS.
10:01 YES, OH THAT CLOSE.
10:03 I WAS IN HAYWARD, CALIFORNIA IN OUR CHURCH
10:05 IN HAYWARD, CALIFORNIA, PASTOR PAUL PENNO.
10:09 I DID A PRESENTATION IN THE MORNING, AN ADVENTIST
10:12 MUSLIM PRESENTATION.
10:15 RIGHT NEXT TO OUR CHURCH RIGHT SIDE BY SIDE IS A
10:19 CATHEDRAL-LOOKING MOSQUE, HUGE MOSQUE.
10:22 IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR NINE YEARS.
10:25 IN HAYWARD?
10:25 IN HAYWARD.
10:26 YES.
10:27 AND WE HAVE NEVER GREETED EACH OTHER ONCE THE PASTOR
10:29 SAID.
10:29 COME AND CHANGE THIS PARADIGM.
10:32 SO I DID A PRESENTATION IN THE CHURCH IN THE MORNING.
10:35 AT LUNCH TIME THE PASTOR SAID I DON'T WANT TO EAT.
10:38 CAN WE GO TO THE MOSQUE.
10:40 I WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF TO THE MOSQUE LEADER.
10:42 OKAY.
10:43 SO WE WENT TO THE MOSQUE.
10:44 THE IMAM, THE PRESIDENT OF THE MOSQUE, HAPPENED TO BE
10:47 THERE.
10:48 NORMALLY THEY'RE NOT THERE ON SATURDAYS BUT HE WAS
10:50 THERE.
10:51 A MINUTE LATER HE CAME OUT, HE GREETED US, SHOOK
10:54 OUR HANDS AND HE SAID MY BROTHERS WHAT CAN I DO FOR
10:57 YOU.
10:59 I INTRODUCED MYSELF.
11:00 I SAID I'M A VISITING PASTOR FROM SOUTHERN
11:02 CALIFORNIA.
11:03 THIS IS OUR SENIOR PASTOR OF THE CHURCH RIGHT NEXT
11:05 TO YOU.
11:06 YES.
11:07 WE ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK THAT THE KORAN IS
11:10 TALKING ABOUT.
11:12 BECAUSE THAT IS A PHRASE THAT IS WELL KNOWN.
11:15 THE MAN LOOKED AT US, SHOOK OUR HANDS AGAIN AND
11:19 HE SAID MY BROTHERS I APOLOGIZE FOR WHAT MY
11:23 PEOPLE DID IN SAN BERNARDINO.
11:25 NOT ONLY THEY WERE NOT MUSLIM THEY WERE NOT HUMAN
11:29 BEINGS.
11:31 HE SAID I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS.
11:35 MY CONGREGATION HAS MANY QUESTIONS.
11:37 OH YES.
11:38 CAN WE COME TO YOUR CHURCH TO DIALOGUE FOR THE
11:41 ANSWERS?
11:43 AND OUR PASTOR WAS BESIDE HIMSELF.
11:46 AS WE WERE WALKING BACK TO THE CHURCH, AND WE AGREED
11:50 THAT WE WILL MEET IN THE CHURCH TO DIALOGUE, OUR
11:53 PASTOR TAPPED ME ON MY SHOULDER AND HE SAID, IS
11:56 THAT ALL IT TOOK.
11:58 THAT'S ALL IT TOOK.
12:00 GOD HAS ALREADY EQUIPPED THE MOVEMENT OF ADVENTISM
12:05 WITH THE MESSAGE OF THE THREE ANGELS IN SUCH A WAY
12:07 THAT WHEN MUSLIMS COME ACROSS IT THEY RIGHT AWAY
12:10 KNOW THIS IS THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT OUR BOOK HAS
12:14 PROPHESIZED ABOUT.
12:17 OH.
12:17 AND THE KORAN HAS TOLD MUSLIMS IN TIMES OF
12:19 CONFUSION AND DOUBT TALK TO THESE PEOPLE.
12:23 ONCE THEY COME ACROSS ADVENTISTS I HAVE HAD
12:27 NUMEROUS OCCASIONS THAT THE MUSLIM INDIVIDUAL IS
12:31 REFERRING US TO THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK THAT THE KORAN
12:34 IS TALKING ABOUT.
12:35 AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THIS MESSAGE THROUGH
12:37 MEDIA, THROUGH INCORPORATING ALL FORMS
12:41 AND ALL LAYERS OF WEBSITES, SOCIAL MEDIA,
12:44 MOBILE APPS.
12:45 AND BY GOD'S GRACE SINCE LAST TIME I WAS HERE A FEW
12:49 YEARS AGO WE HAVE NOW AN INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE IN
12:53 THOSE AREAS OF CENTRAL ASIA.
12:56 AGAIN FOR A SENSITIVE NATURE I'M NOT GOING TO
12:57 NAME, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ARE NOW SPONSORING
13:01 PARTNERING WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH.
13:04 THESE ARE CONTACTS THAT PEOPLE CAN MEET FACE TO
13:07 FACE.
13:08 THAT WE CAN HAVE ON THE GROUND AND MOST OF THESE
13:09 PEOPLE THEY'RE EXTREMELY TECH SAVVY.
13:12 THEY ARE EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND THEY
13:14 HAVE INTRODUCED US TO SO MANY OPTIONS AND SO MANY
13:17 PARADIGMS THAT REALLY REALLY SPEED UP EXPEDITE
13:22 THE PROCESS.
13:23 WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK RIGHT HERE.
13:24 I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OUR LISTENERS DON'T GO AWAY
13:28 BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE TO SHARE.
13:30 BUT RIGHT NOW I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK FOR
13:33 THOSE ADDRESSES AND TELEPHONE NUMBERS AND
13:36 WEBSITES AND EVERYTHING ON YOUR SCREEN SO THAT YOU
13:41 CAN MAKE THAT TRANSITION AND BE A PARTNER WITH ALL
13:44 OF THIS.
13:47 AND FURTHERMORE I WANT YOU TO BE INSPIRED BY THE
13:50 VOICES OF SOME YOUNG PEOPLE.
13:52 THERE IS A "BE THE SPARK" GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU
13:57 RIGHT NOW.
13:58 I NEED TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL HERE AT HOME.
14:04 WHERE IS THE 10/40 WINDOW ANYWAY?
14:08 THOSE PEOPLE LIVE TOO FAR AWAY.
14:10 SOMEONE ELSE CAN TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS.
14:13 MAYBE THEY COULD JUST WATCH TV.
14:16 NEARLY THREE BILLION PEOPLE TO REACH.
14:19 MY HEAD HURTS.
14:20 THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO.
14:23 I GIVE UP.
14:24 WHAT'S THE POINT OF TRYING?
14:27 I CAN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
14:29 ACTUALLY YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
14:32 AND JESUS ASKED YOU TO GO TO ALL THE WORLD.
14:37 WHERE?
14:37 ALL THE WORLD.
14:39 HOW CAN I GO, I HAVE COMMITMENTS.
14:42 YOU CAN PRAY.
14:44 YOU CAN VOLUNTEER YOUR TALENTS.
14:46 YOU CAN TELL OTHERS.
14:48 YOU CAN GIVE MONEY TO SPONSOR BIBLE WORKERS.
14:52 MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING FOR HOPE AND
14:56 MEANING.
14:57 BUT THEY WON'T FIND IT WITHOUT YOU.
15:00 BE THE SPARK.
15:01 LIGHT THE FIRE.
15:03 FINISH THE WORK.
15:04 FINISH THE WORK.
15:06 BE THE SPARK.
15:07 WELCOME BACK.
15:08 ISN'T THAT INSPIRING.
15:10 THOSE KIDS DID A GREAT JOB AND I KNOW THEIR PARENTS
15:15 AND GRANDPARENTS ARE PROUD OF THEM FOR COMING
15:19 TOGETHER TO SHARE THAT WITH US.
15:22 WE ARE TALKING WITH GERALD BABANEZHAD ABOUT AN
15:26 OUTREACH TO MUSLIMS BOTH HERE IN THE UNITED STATES
15:30 AND OVERSEAS AND I WAS JUST ASKING HIM OFF CAMERA
15:35 ABOUT AGAIN SOME OF THE LANGUAGES, SOME OF THE
15:39 PLACES.
15:40 THESE ARE RESOURCES THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS ANYPLACE
15:45 IN THE WORLD CAN'T THEY.
15:46 YES.
15:47 AND WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT MAKING THOSE
15:49 ADDRESSES THOSE WEB ADDRESSES AVAILABLE TO
15:52 YOU.
15:53 IT'S POSSIBLE THAT AS WE EDIT THIS WE MIGHT BE ABLE
15:57 TO ADD SOME OF THAT ON THE SCREEN.
15:59 IF NOT, YOU CAN CONTACT GOSPEL OUTREACH.
16:02 WE'LL LEAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION HERE.
16:04 YOU CAN CONTACT GOSPEL OUTREACH AND GET ACCESS TO
16:08 HOW TO SEE THESE THINGS ON LINE.
16:10 SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE.
16:11 YES.
16:12 AND DOES IT COST MONEY TO DO ALL THIS?
16:15 TO BE HONEST WITH YOU FROM THE INITIAL GENEROSITY OF
16:19 GOSPEL OUTREACH SUPPORTERS WE, AND I WOULD SAY I NEED
16:24 TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE IT'S DUE.
16:25 WITH THE VISION THAT RICHARD MADSON HAD AND THE
16:29 DRIVING FORCE THE DRIVING INSPIRATION THAT HE WAS
16:30 BEHIND THIS PROJECT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MADE
16:32 SURE WAS THAT DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES
16:33 THAT WE HAVE AT THE TIME AND THEN LET GOD LEAD
16:34 RATHER THAN TO ANALYZE AND ANALYZE AND ULTIMATELY
16:50 PARALYZE OURSELVES.
16:51 YOU KNOW DICK MADSON WAS AN INSPIRING FORCE BEHIND
16:54 THIS.
16:55 AND SO I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST CAME TO GOSPEL
16:57 OUTREACH AND WE WERE DISCUSSING ABOUT PRODUCING
16:59 ALL THESE PROGRAMS AND I ASKED DICK MADSON I SAID,
17:03 WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A VENUE OR VENDORS THAT
17:05 COULD BROADCAST INTO THAT AREA.
17:07 TO BE HONEST WITH YOU TO THIS DAY WE'RE STILL
17:09 LIMITED IN THAT AREA OF THE WORLD AS FAR AS
17:11 COVERAGE IS CONCERNED.
17:13 AND DICK MADSON SAID, YOU BUILD IT, YOU PRODUCE IT,
17:17 THE LORD WILL PROVIDE.
17:19 AND HE HAS.
17:20 A WEEK LATER I WENT BACK TO LOS ANGELES TO START
17:23 PUTTING OUR TEAM OF PRODUCTION TOGETHER.
17:26 THE FIRST SHOW THAT WE PRODUCED ONE OF MY CAMERA
17:30 MEN WHO WAS NOT A SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST BUT
17:32 HE WAS A CHRISTIAN FROM A MUSLIM BACKGROUND BUT HE
17:35 WORKED WITH CBN, CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING NETWORK.
17:37 HAD THAT BACKGROUND.
17:38 PAT ROBERTSON'S SHOW.
17:40 HE TOOK ONE OF OUR SHOWS AND HE SAYS LET ME TRY IF
17:43 THEY WILL AIR OUR PROGRAM ON THEIRS.
17:44 AND I'M THINKING TO MYSELF WE'RE ADVENTISTS.
17:47 PAT ROBERTSON IS EVANGELICAL.
17:50 THINGS DON'T MATCH UP THAT WAY AS FAR AS I KNOW.
17:53 HE CALLED ME FROM THEIR OFFICE AND HE SAID THE
17:56 MANAGER IS ASKING DO YOU HAVE MORE SHOWS.
17:58 OH MY.
18:00 AND SO BY GOD'S GRACE, BY THE GENEROSITY OF GOSPEL
18:03 OUTREACH SUPPORTERS AND BY GOD'S ORCHESTRATING OF US
18:06 BEING ON CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING NETWORK WHICH
18:09 HAS A CHANNEL THAT IS DEDICATED 24/7 TO FARSI
18:13 VIEWERS AROUND THE WORLD.
18:14 OH MY.
18:15 AND THEY ARE REAPING A HARVEST AND WE WANT TO BE
18:19 THERE.
18:20 BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE ISSUE OF ADVENTISM BECAME
18:24 SOMEWHAT OF A CONTENTION AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE
18:28 NOT ABLE TO CONTINUE ON THAT NETWORK BUT CBN
18:33 BROADCAST US FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS BETWEEN 12 TO
18:36 15 HOURS A WEEK WITHOUT CHARGING US A DIME.
18:41 OH MY.
18:42 SO THE WHOLE INVESTMENT WAS ON PRODUCTION AND BY
18:46 GOD'S GRACE WE WERE ABLE TO BROADCAST.
18:48 NOW THIS TIME AROUND, AS I'M VISITING YOU TODAY,
18:52 THINGS ARE REVERSED.
18:54 WE ARE PRODUCING AND BROADCASTING IT AND I'M
18:57 REQUESTING GOSPEL OUTREACH TO HELP US WITH THE AIR
18:59 TIME.
19:00 OKAY.
19:01 THE AIR TIME IN MY OPINION FROM MY EXPERIENCE,
19:06 MUSLIMS PREDOMINATELY ARE WATCHING SECULAR NETWORKS.
19:10 OKAY.
19:11 SO FOR EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM WATCHING A CHRISTIAN
19:14 NETWORK THERE ARE ELEVEN HUNDRED THAT ARE WATCHING
19:17 SECULAR NETWORKS.
19:18 SO ONE OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT I HAD WAS IF WE CAN
19:23 ALSO HAVE OUR FOOTPRINT OR YOU KNOW THE AIRTIMES ON
19:27 SECULAR CHANNELS ON CHANNELS THAT ARE CATERING
19:30 TO MOST OF THE MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD WITH THE
19:33 UNIQUE MESSAGE OF ADVENTISM, WE HAVE FOUND
19:37 THAT MANY CHANNELS WILL BE GLAD TO AIR US.
19:39 OF COURSE THERE ARE FUNDS INVOLVED, FINANCES
19:42 INVOLVED.
19:43 SURE.
19:44 BUT AS SOON AS THEY COME ACROSS THE UNIQUENESS OF
19:45 THE ADVENT MESSAGE AND THEY REALIZE THAT THIS IS
19:49 DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF YOU KNOW CHRISTIAN
19:52 PRODUCTIONS IN THAT THEY ARE MORE ENGAGING TO THE
19:57 MUSLIM VIEWERS AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE FOUND OUT.
20:00 FOR INSTANCE ONE MUSLIM CLERIC ONE TIME CALLED.
20:04 HE SAID ON YOUR PROGRAM YOU SAID YOU DON'T DRINK
20:10 ALCOHOL.
20:10 WE DON'T DRINK ALCOHOL.
20:12 YOU SAID YOU DON'T EAT PORK.
20:14 WE DON'T EAT PORK.
20:15 RIGHT.
20:15 YOU SAID YOU DON'T GAMBLE.
20:17 WE DON'T GAMBLE.
20:19 YOU SAID YOU DON'T SMOKE.
20:21 WE KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SMOKE.
20:23 SO HE PAUSED A LITTLE BIT AND THEN HE SAID MY
20:26 BROTHER YOU'RE A MUSLIM.
20:27 (LAUGHTER) AND SO IF A MUSLIM HALF WAY ACROSS THE
20:32 WORLD WATCHES THESE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE BEEN
20:34 PRODUCING BY THE GENEROSITY OF GOSPEL
20:37 OUTREACH, IF THEY CAN RELATE TO IT THEN THEY
20:40 WILL LISTEN TO WHAT ELSE COMES OUT.
20:43 SEE THE WHOLE POINT IS IF THERE IS A TRUST
20:45 RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR VIEWERS THEY WILL LISTEN
20:48 TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO SHARE.
20:51 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT I THINK
20:53 THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ROOM TO KEEP EXPANDING SO
20:56 REMEMBER THIS.
20:57 LOOK ON YOUR SCREEN, LOOK FOR THE ADDRESSES FOR
21:00 GOSPEL OUTREACH.
21:01 YOU CAN CONTACT US IN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.
21:05 BOTH OF THOSE SHOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU.
21:07 WRITE THEM DOWN AND DO THAT.
21:10 I'M WONDERING, NOW YOU MAY HAVE ANOTHER STORY YOU
21:13 WANT TO SHARE, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOU DESCRIBE
21:17 YOU'RE PERCEPTION OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ALL OF THIS
21:20 MEDIA IS BLOCKED FROM VIEWERS.
21:24 THERE ARE PLACES IN THE WORLD WHERE THERE ARE
21:26 THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT THE INPUT.
21:29 THEY PUT UP BARRIERS TO OUTSIDE INFLUENCES AND
21:32 STUFF.
21:33 I'LL SHARE WITH YOU A STORY.
21:34 WHAT DOES GOD DO IN TIMES LIKE THAT WHEN THEY CAN'T
21:36 HEAR YOUR VOICE?
21:37 YES.
21:37 WELL HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE FOUND OUT.
21:40 ONE EXAMPLE COMES TO MIND.
21:42 AS WE WERE BROADCASTING ON CBN INTO THAT PART OF THE
21:48 WORLD, CENTRAL ASIA, SOME OF THE RULING GOVERNMENTS
21:54 RENTED SCRAMBLING SIGNAL TOWERS FROM NAME
22:00 MANUFACTURERS, MOTOROLA, NOKIA.
22:03 RIGHT.
22:03 AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DISTORT THE AUDIO.
22:08 THE VIDEO WILL GO BUT THEY HAVE THE CHOICE.
22:10 EITHER DESTROY THE VIDEO, YOU CAN'T DESTROY BOTH.
22:14 ONE WILL GET THROUGH.
22:16 SO THEY WERE ABLE TO DISTORT OUR AUDIO AND SO
22:19 OUR VIEWERS STARTED EMAILING US THAT YOU KNOW
22:23 WE GET THE VIDEO BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE AUDIO.
22:25 SO RIGHT AWAY WE KNEW THAT.
22:27 IN ORDER TO CHANGE COORDINATES AS FAR AS YOUR
22:29 SATELLITE NETWORK IT'S A HUGE DEAL AND VERY COSTLY.
22:34 ONE MORNING WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM A NINE YEAR-OLD
22:38 MUSLIM BOY.
22:38 NINE?
22:39 NINE YEAR OLD.
22:41 MY CAMERA MAN GOT THE EMAIL AND HE FORWARDED IT
22:44 TO ME.
22:45 HE SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK OF THIS BUT I'LL
22:48 LET YOU DECIDE.
22:50 THE NINE YEAR-OLD BOY HAD INCLUDED THREE JPEG
22:54 PICTURES, ATTACHED THREE JPEG PICTURES.
22:57 OKAY.
22:58 HE HAD TAKEN PICTURES WITH HIS CELLPHONE, HAD TAKEN
23:01 PICTURES OF THE SATELLITE DISH, THE 26 INCH DISH,
23:04 AND HE HAD DONE SOME MICKEY MOUSE STUFF TO IT.
23:09 HE SHOWED THE BACK, A PAIR OF SCISSORS HERE AND TWO
23:13 PAIR OF CLIPS, PAPER CLIPS ON TOP.
23:15 HE SAID YOU HAVE TO PUT IT EXACTLY WHERE I HAVE PUT
23:18 IT.
23:19 AND ON THE NEXT PICTURE HE'S GOT RED TAPE ON THE
23:21 FRONT OF THE DISH AND AT THE BOTTOM HE HAS KIND OF
23:26 FOLDED IT NOT SO MUCH AND LOOKING AT THESE PICTURES
23:31 AND WE'RE SAYING A NINE YEAR OLD.
23:33 AND WHAT IS THE TOPIC OF HIS EMAIL.
23:36 I HAVE FOUND THE SOLUTION FOR YOUR PROBLEM.
23:39 SO I LOOKED AT THESE THREE PICTURES.
23:42 INITIALLY WE STARTED LAUGHING RIGHT?
23:44 YES.
23:45 BUT WE SAID WHY DON'T WE SEND IT TO OUR VIEWERS IN
23:48 THOSE COUNTRIES WITH AN EXPLANATION THIS IS
23:52 SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM A NINE YEAR-OLD MUSLIM
23:54 VIEWER THAT SAYS HE'S GOT THE SOLUTION.
23:57 GIVE IT A TRY.
24:00 TWO DAYS LATER EMAILS STARTED TRICKLING DOWN.
24:06 THANK YOU FOR SOLVING THE PROBLEM.
24:08 THANK YOU FOR SOLVING, WE HAVE AUDIO, WE HAVE VIDEO.
24:10 HOW DID YOU DO THIS?
24:12 AND I'M LIKE.
24:13 I DIDN'T DO THIS.
24:15 A NINE YEAR OLD BEING LED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT A NINE
24:19 YEAR OLD WHO KNOWS TECHNOLOGY.
24:21 HE MUST.
24:22 HE WAS THE SOLUTION.
24:23 SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, SATAN WILL DO EVERYTHING
24:26 TO BLOCK US.
24:27 GOD WILL USE A NINE YEAR OLD ENGINEER TO GET US
24:31 THROUGH.
24:32 AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE IS MAKE SURE
24:34 THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY ON SATELLITE TV THAT WE'RE
24:37 ALSO ON THE MOBILE APPS.
24:38 WE DESIGN MOBILE APPS.
24:40 WE'RE ON SOCIAL CHATTINGS.
24:42 WE ALSO USE VIRTUAL CHURCH SERVICES NOW.
24:45 FOR ALL OUR VIEWERS THAT DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL
24:48 PLACE TO GO TO WORSHIP THEY COME ON OUR VIRTUAL
24:51 CHANNELS AND WE HAVE A VIRTUAL CHURCH SERVICE
24:53 EVERY WEEK.
24:55 SO BY AND LARGE GOD HAS PROVIDED.
24:59 THE WORD CAME TO DANIEL, CLOSE THIS BOOK UNTIL THE
25:03 TIME OF THE END WHEN PEOPLE GO TO AND FRO, AND
25:06 KNOWLEDGE WILL INCREASE AND WE ARE LIVING THAT
25:09 PROPHECY.
25:10 WE'RE DOWN TO LESS THAN TWO MINUTES.
25:13 WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON THEIR LIVES WHEN THEY
25:16 REALIZE THAT JESUS CAN BE A PART OF AN EXPANSION OF
25:20 THEIR FAITH?
25:22 TO BE HONEST WITH YOU THE VIEWERS MINISTER TO US.
25:27 IN MANY CASES WE THINK WE ARE THE ONE PREACHING TO
25:30 THEM BUT JESUS APPEARS TO SOME OF OUR VIEWERS IN
25:33 VISIONS AND DREAMS.
25:34 AND ONE LADY WAS DESCRIBING VIVIDLY HOW SHE
25:39 SEES JESUS IN VISIONS AND DREAMS.
25:41 AND IN MY OPINION ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO
25:43 REMEMBER JESUS SAID I HAVE OTHER SHEEP THAT ARE NOT
25:47 OF THIS SHEEP PEN.
25:48 I WILL BRING THEM IN ALSO.
25:50 WHAT THE LORD SAID TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO WE'RE
25:53 SEEING WITH OUR OWN EYES.
25:54 THAT THERE IS ONE FOLD AND IN THIS ONE FOLD YOU'RE
25:57 GOING TO SEE PEOPLE AND SOME PEOPLE WILL MINISTER
26:00 TO YOU THAT YOU NEVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE.
26:02 AND HE LOVES THEM AND HE LOVES BRINGING JOY INTO
26:07 THEIR LIVES.
26:08 NOT ONLY HE LOVES THEM HE REDEEMED THEM.
26:09 HE REDEEMED THEM.
26:10 HE PURCHASED THEM BACK.
26:11 THINK OF THAT.
26:13 WHEN YOU INVEST IN SHARING THE GOSPEL AROUND THE
26:17 WORLD YOU ARE BECOMING PART OF GOD'S PLAN TO LET
26:23 PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PURCHASED.
26:26 THEY HAVE BEEN REDEEMED.
26:28 THEY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT INTO A SAFE PLACE WITH
26:31 GOD.
26:33 I LOVE THAT PASSAGE WHERE IT SAYS HE RECONCILED
26:36 EVERYBODY THROUGH THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST.
26:39 THAT IS A PRIVILEGE.
26:41 TO BE AN AMBASSADOR FOR THAT, GERALD THANK YOU SO
26:44 MUCH FOR SHARING WITH US.
26:45 THE PLEASURE WAS MINE.
26:46 I HOPE THAT MANY WILL SENSE THAT THERE ARE
26:49 THINGS THAT WE CAN'T IMAGINE DOING OURSELVES
26:52 BUT WE CAN BE THERE, WE CAN BE PARTNERS WITH THIS
26:56 AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE STORIES ABOUT THEM IN
26:57 THE YEARS AHEAD, FAR BEYOND OUR IMAGINATION.
27:01 WELL GOD BLESS YOU.
27:02 GOD BLESS YOU TOO.
27:02 THANK YOU.
27:03 AND TO YOU WATCHING THIS MAY GOD BLESS YOU TODAY.
27:39 [CLOSING MUSIC]


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