Participants: Julie Sanders Keymer (Host), Marty Phillips
Series Code: AIM
Program Code: AIM000693A
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00:14 WELCOME TO ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS FOR GOSPEL 00:17 OUTREACH. 00:18 I'M JULIE SANDERS KEYMER AND I AM SO GLAD THAT YOU 00:20 ARE TUNING IN TODAY BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO A 00:22 VERY VERY INTERESTING PROGRAM TODAY. 00:24 THERE ARE MANY TERMS THAT ARE FLYING AROUND ON THE 00:27 NEWS. 00:28 WE SEE THEM ONLINE, WE SEE THEM IN THE NEWSPAPER AND 00:31 ON THE TV NEWS. 00:33 WE'RE HEARING ABOUT MANY DIFFERENT RELIGIONS, MANY 00:36 DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF CULTURES AND THINGS LIKE 00:39 THAT AND TODAY WE ARE GOING TO BE ALSO TALKING 00:42 ABOUT THAT AND THE NEAT THING HERE ABOUT GOSPEL 00:44 OUTREACH THOUGH IS WE ARE SHARING JESUS IN A PLACE 00:47 CALLED THE 10/40 WINDOW. 00:49 AND AS YOU KNOW, AS I JUST MENTIONED, THAT WHOLE 00:51 10/40 WINDOW IS A PLACE THAT IS GETTING A LOT OF 00:55 INTEREST IN THE NEWS RIGHT MARTY PHILLIPS? 00:58 IT'S TRUE. 00:59 WELCOME TO ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS. 01:01 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE. 01:03 IT'S MY PLEASURE. 01:04 WELL IT'S GREAT HAVING YOU AND MARTY THIS WHOLE 10/40 01:07 WINDOW YOU KNOW WE TURN, LIKE I SAID, YOU TURN THE 01:10 NEWS, YOU TURN ON FACEBOOK WHATEVER. 01:13 WE ARE HEARING ALL SORTS OF EXCITING THINGS, SOME 01:16 THINGS THAT ARE TRAGIC THINGS AND RELIGION GETS 01:20 ALL MIXED UP IN ALL OF THAT. 01:22 IT'S TRUE. 01:25 YOU KNOW IT SEEMS TO BE THAT ACTUALLY A LOT OF 01:28 WHAT WE ARE SEEING ON THE NEWS IS A SMOKE SCREEN. 01:31 AND I WOULD SAY THIS IS SATAN'S SMOKE SCREEN. 01:34 HE DOESN'T WANT US TO KNOW WHAT GOD IS DOING BEHIND 01:39 THE SCENES BECAUSE WE SEE GOD RAINING DOWN VISIONS 01:43 AND DREAMS AMONG PEOPLE GROUPS THAT WE WOULD HAVE 01:46 NEVER IMAGINED BEFORE. 01:47 FOR EXAMPLE, WITHIN ISLAM MORE MUSLIMS HAVE BECOME 01:51 FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST IN THE LAST FIFTEEN YEARS THAN 01:54 THERE HAS IN THE LAST FIFTEEN HUNDRED YEARS. 01:57 WOW. 01:58 AND I WOULD SAY THERE ARE SOME MAJOR SHIFTS TAKING 02:02 ON IN THE MUSLIM WORLD THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ALL 02:05 THESE DIFFERENT LET'S SAY IDEOLOGICAL OR RELIGIOUS 02:09 WAYS OF LOOKING AT THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE FUNDAMENTALISM 02:13 IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND ACROSS THE MUSLIM WORLD, 02:18 WHILE WE SEE IN THE NEWS EVERY DAY IT'S ACTUALLY I 02:23 WOULD SAY IN DECLINE BECAUSE PEOPLE'S HEARTS 02:25 ARE BEING CURED AGAINST IT. 02:27 WE DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS. 02:29 NINETY PERCENT, NINETY-FIVE, NINETY-EIGHT 02:32 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION ARE SAYING WE DON'T EVER 02:35 WANT TO SEE THESE THINGS IN OUR COUNTRY. 02:39 IT'S HERE BUT IT'S A VERY VERY SMALL MINORITY AND 02:42 THE NEWS IS WHAT SHOWS ARE HORRIBLE THINGS. 02:46 WELL YES BECAUSE IF THERE'S A BOMBING IN 02:48 LONDON OR PARIS OR WHEREVER OF COURSE 02:50 EVERYBODY IS FOCUSING ON THERE AND WHERE IS THAT? 02:54 WELL IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS OR WHATEVER. 02:56 EXACTLY JUST LIKE IN MY HOME TOWN IN CHATTANOOGA. 02:59 THERE WAS A BOMBING A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO 03:01 YEAR AND A HALF AGO. 03:03 NOT A BOMBING BUT A SHOOTING. 03:04 A MUSLIM YOUNG MAN JUST CAME OUT AND KILLED A 03:08 BUNCH OF MARINES. 03:09 JUST DROVE UP AND UNEXPECTEDLY. 03:12 HE HAD GROWN UP IN THIS COUNTRY. 03:14 AND THEN THE QUESTION WAS WHY. 03:16 YES, THAT'S ALWAYS THE QUESTION. 03:18 YES, THAT'S ALWAYS THE QUESTION. 03:19 SO YOU ARE INVOLVED HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH AND 03:23 YOUR JOB IS ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING BUT BEFORE WE 03:25 GO INTO THAT CAN YOU GIVE OUR VIEWERS A LITTLE 03:27 BACKGROUND ABOUT YOU AND YOUR EDUCATION. 03:30 YES I FELT CALLING TO THE MINISTRY SINCE THE TIME I 03:33 WAS A CHILD. 03:34 BOTH MY PARENTS ARE MINISTERS. 03:35 AND MY GRANDPARENTS WERE ALSO LIKE LAY MINISTERS 03:35 AND IT WAS SOMETHING I ALWAYS FELT A CALLING. 03:37 NOT JUST BECAUSE MY FAMILY HAD BEEN INVOLVED BUT I 03:38 WANTED TO BE INVOLVED IN MISSION. 03:40 WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL I REALLY GOT INTO HOW CAN WE 03:42 REALLY SEE GOD SPREAD THE GOSPEL QUICKLY. 03:45 AND I STARTED EXPERIMENTING READING 03:55 EVERYTHING THAT WAS AVAILABLE AND THEN LATER I 04:06 HAVE A GRADUATE DEGREE AND POST GRADUATE DEGREE IN 04:10 MISSIONS FROM ANDREWS UNIVERSITY. 04:12 FANTASTIC. 04:13 SO HOW DO YOU WORK WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH? 04:16 HOW DO WE WORK WITH YOU AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT 04:19 OF THAT. 04:20 YES, I WORK FOR AN ORGANIZATION CALLED 04:21 NPRAXIS AND WE PARTNER WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH AND 04:25 WE PARTNER TOGETHER. 04:26 WE RUN A NETWORK OF HOUSE CHURCHES IN ABOUT FORTY 04:30 COUNTRIES. 04:31 WE WORK IN ABOUT TWENTY-EIGHT CLOSED 04:33 COUNTRIES AND WE PARTNER MAINLY TOGETHER WITH 04:36 GOSPEL OUTREACH IN CLOSED COUNTRIES. 04:38 YOU HELP FUND US. 04:39 WE RUN A TRAINING OF TRAINER SYSTEM WHAT WE 04:42 CALL A NON-HIERARCHICAL ORGANIZED SYSTEM OF 04:47 TRAINING THAT HAPPENS AS WE START BUILDING HOUSE 04:49 CHURCHES. 04:50 WE HAVE FOUND WITH THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE SO 04:52 FAR THAT WITHIN ABOUT A PERIOD OF SIX TO EIGHTEEN 04:54 MONTHS OF WHEN WE START PLANTING A HOUSE CHURCH 04:55 AND ONCE WE HAVE A NUCLEUS WE CAN USUALLY PLANT ABOUT 04:56 TWO HUNDRED CHURCHES IN A TWO YEAR PERIOD. 04:58 FOR EXAMPLE IN ONE PEOPLE GROUP THAT WE WORK WITH 04:59 WITHIN FIVE YEARS WE'VE PLANTED ABOUT FIVE 05:01 THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES. 05:01 FANTASTIC. 05:02 IN ANOTHER GROUP THAT WE WORK WITH WE HAVE BEEN 05:03 WORKING WITH THEM FIFTEEN YEARS NOW. 05:05 WE STARTED WITH ONE GROUP AND WE'RE NOW AT WELL 05:06 ABOVE THIRTY THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES. 05:07 SO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHEN WE HEAR A HOUSE CHURCH AND 05:09 I'VE BEEN TO CHINA AND I'VE BEEN TO HOUSE 05:32 CHURCHES BUT FOR THESE CHURCHES THAT YOU'RE 05:35 MENTIONING CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT TERM 05:37 MEANS, HOUSE CHURCH. 05:39 YES. 05:40 HOUSE CHURCH IS A CHURCH WHERE THE NUCLEUS IS THE 05:47 FAMILY AND OTHER CLOSE FAMILY. 05:51 MAYBE UP TO THREE FAMILY UNITS BUT MOSTLY IT'S A 05:56 HOME AND IT MIGHT JUMP AROUND BETWEEN THREE OR 05:59 FOUR ACTUALLY WHEN YOU MEET BUT IT WILL BE MOM 06:02 AND DAD, THEIR KIDS, MAYBE YOUR COUSIN, YOUR BROTHER, 06:06 YOUR GRANDMA AND GRANDPA BUT WE TRY TO KEEP IT TO 06:08 CLOSE FRIENDS AND FAMILY. 06:10 TWO OR THREE CLOSE FRIENDS THEY FORM A HOUSE CHURCH. 06:13 WHAT WE'VE FOUND WITH A LOT OF EXPERIMENTATION IT 06:15 DOESN'T WORK TO DIVIDE. 06:18 SO YOU HAVE A CONSTANT ONGOING HOUSE CHURCH BASED 06:21 ON A FAMILY NUCLEUS OR TWO OR THREE FAMILY NUCLEUS. 06:24 PEOPLE COME TO EXPERIENCE THAT HOUSE CHURCH AND THEY 06:28 GO BACK TO PLANT IT IN THEIR HOUSE. 06:30 AND YOU KNOW WHAT CAME AND HIT ME. 06:32 RAHAB HAD A HOUSE CHURCH. 06:33 (LAUGHTER) SHE HAD A HOUSE CHURCH AND THEN IT SPREAD 06:38 EVERYWHERE, SPREAD EVERYWHERE. 06:40 YES. 06:41 SO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE REASON THOUGH OF HAVING 06:43 THE HOUSE CHURCH. 06:44 SAFETY? 06:45 ACTUALLY MOST PEOPLE WOULD THINK IT'S SAFETY. 06:48 WHAT WE HAVE FOUND THAT WHEN YOU PUT A DNA OF A 06:53 HOUSE CHURCH INTO A MOVEMENT WHETHER IT'S IN 06:59 HOUSTON, TEXAS OR IF IT'S IN SAUDI ARABIA OR 07:03 SOMALIA, EITHER A CLOSED COUNTRY OR AN OPEN COUNTRY 07:07 LIKE OURSELVES, WHEN A PHYSICAL BUILDING ISN'T 07:10 TIED TO A CHURCH MOVEMENT IT GROWS MUCH FASTER. 07:15 IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CHURCH ONCE YOU COME TO A 07:17 HUNDRED MEMBERS IT'S VERY HARD TO JUMP OVER THE 07:21 HUNDRED AND TWENTY MARK TO GET UP TO TWO FIFTY AND SO 07:24 FORTH AND WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT THOUSANDS, 07:26 HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO A 07:29 CHURCH BUILDING IT REPLICATES VERY QUICKLY. 07:31 INTERESTING. 07:32 AND WHEN EVERY FAMILY FEELS RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE 07:35 WHAT WE TEACH THE PEOPLE IN OUR HOUSE CHURCH IS THE 07:37 FOLLOWING: THINK OF THE CLOSEST PEOPLE TO YOU, 07:40 THIRTY PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT TO BRING TO CHRIST. 07:43 SO EVERYONE IN THE FAMILY, EVERYONE IN THE HOUSE 07:46 CHURCH IS THINKING OF THIRTY PEOPLE. 07:48 YOUR CLASS MATES, YOUR COUSINS, THE PEOPLE YOU 07:52 WORK WITH AND THEN YOU BRING THOSE TO FIVE MOST 07:54 IMPORTANT PEOPLE. 07:55 THE TWO PEOPLE CLOSEST TO YOU THAT YOU THINK WILL BE 07:59 THE EASIEST THE MOST SPIRITUALLY OPEN TO BRING 08:02 TO FAITH. 08:03 THE PERSON THAT IF YOU BROUGHT TO FAITH WOULD 08:06 HAVE THE MOST INFLUENCE AND BRING THE MOST PEOPLE. 08:09 THESE TWO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT IF YOU BRING THEM TO 08:13 FAITH YOU WILL BRING THAT ONE AND THEN TOGETHER YOU 08:17 BRING THIS ONE AND THEN IT HELPS BUILD. 08:19 SO AS PEOPLE COME TO FAITH AND YOU KEEP ADDING SO YOU 08:22 ALWAYS KEEP FIVE THAT YOUR PRAYING. 08:24 GOT YOU. 08:25 AND SO EVERY WEEK IN YOUR HOUSE CHURCH MEETING 08:26 EVERYONE IS ASKED HOW ARE YOUR FIVE. 08:27 HOW ARE YOUR FIVE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 08:28 WHAT ARE DOING? 08:30 AND YOU TELL AND YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNTABILITY. 08:35 AND YOU KNOW WHAT MARTY, THAT'S NETWORK MARKETING 08:39 FOR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. 08:41 I MEAN WHY ARE WE NOT DOING THAT IN OPEN 08:44 COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD? 08:46 YOU JUST YOU JUST DESCRIBED BEAUTIFULLY WHAT 08:49 WE ALL SHOULD BE DOING SO. 08:50 SO THERE'S A SCRIPTURE, A COUPLE OF THEM, THAT WE 08:54 WERE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU SUGGESTED THAT THEY WOULD 08:56 BE GOOD FOR US TO COMMENT ABOUT. 08:59 SO ACTS 17 IT SAYS FROM ONE MAN HE MADE ALL THE 09:03 NATIONS THAT THEY SHOULD INHABIT THE WHOLE EARTH 09:06 AND HE MARKED OUT THEIR APPOINTED TIMES IN HISTORY 09:09 AND THE BOUNDARIES OF THEIR LAND. 09:12 GOD DID THIS SO THAT THEY WOULD SEEK HIM AND PERHAPS 09:15 REACH OUT FOR HIM AND FIND HIM THOUGH HE IS NOT FAR 09:18 FROM ANY ONE OF US. 09:21 SO WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT TO YOU MARTY? 09:22 WELL WHAT I HAVE FOUND IS THAT AS IT SAYS THERE GOD 09:26 IS THE ONE WHO HAS MARKED OUT EVERY PEOPLES 09:29 BOUNDARIES AND HE HAS GIVEN THEM A TIME AND 09:31 PLACE. 09:32 SO FOR WHAT REASON THAT THEY MIGHT REACH OUT AND 09:35 FIND GOD. 09:36 SO WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS GOD HAS BEEN WORKING IN 09:41 EVERY PEOPLE GROUP BEFORE THE MISSIONARIES EVER 09:44 ARRIVED. 09:45 AND IF YOU GO WITH THE BASIS OF LOOKING FOR GOD 09:48 AND NOT LOOKING FOR SATAN OR COMING TO IMPOSE MY 09:51 UNDERSTANDING BUT YOU COME TO FIND WHERE WAS GOD HERE 09:55 IT'S AMAZING. 09:56 AND HE'S BEEN THERE ALL ALONG. 09:57 HE'S BEEN THERE ALL ALONG AND SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO 09:59 IS TO SEE THE STORY OF THE GREAT CONTROVERSY THAT HAS 10:03 HAPPENED IN THAT PEOPLE GROUP. 10:04 AND THEN THEY START, BEFORE THEY EVEN EVER COME 10:07 TO FULL FAITH THEY START BEING WOW, WE HAD ALL THIS 10:11 TRUTH. 10:12 FOR EXAMPLE, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE WORK WITH, 10:15 WE PARTNER WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH WITH WORK IN 10:17 INDIA AMONG HINDU PEOPLE. 10:20 BEFORE WE EVER STARTED WORK WE SPENT TWO YEARS. 10:23 WE HIRED SOMEONE WHO HAD BECOME AN ADVENTIST BUT HE 10:27 HAD BEEN A BRAHMAN PRIEST, HE WAS AN EXPERT IN 10:30 SANSKRIT AND WE SAID WE WANT YOU TO STUDY THE 10:33 GREAT CONTROVERSY FOR THE HINDU PEOPLE. 10:36 WHERE WERE YOU, WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR ANCIENT 10:39 SCRIPTURE SAY, YOUR MOST ANCIENT SCRIPTURE THE RIG 10:42 VEDA WHICH WAS WRITTEN PROBABLY ABOUT THE TIME OF 10:45 ABRAHAM. 10:46 WOW. 10:46 WELL WHAT DID WE FIND OUT? 10:48 THAT IN THE RIG VEDA IT WAS ORIGINALLY 10:51 MONOTHEISTIC. 10:53 THEY LATER BECAME POLYTHEISTIC BELIEVING IN 10:56 MANY GODS BUT ORIGINALLY IT HAS DIFFERENT HAMES BUT 10:58 IT'S LIKE THE BIBLE ALL REFERRING TO THE ONE 11:01 CREATOR GOD. 11:02 THEY HAD A SACRIFICIAL SYSTEM VERY SIMILAR TO THE 11:05 JEWS. 11:06 THEY HAD A TEMPLE THAT WAS TO WORSHIP THE ONE CREATOR 11:08 GOD AND WHAT HAPPENED. 11:10 IN THE PASSING OF TIME THEY STARTED TO CALL THE 11:13 ALTAR A GOD. 11:14 THEN THEY BUILT A GRAVEN IMAGE AND PUT IT ON TOP OF 11:17 THE ALTAR. 11:18 NOW THEY HAD THE IDOL AND THE ALTAR. 11:20 AND THEN MORE AND MORE IDOLS WERE BROUGHT IN AND 11:25 SO NOW THEY HAD THESE GODS AND SO THIS EX-PRIEST HE 11:31 STARTED RESEARCHING ALL THIS. 11:32 AND SO THEN HE STARTED BUILDING THEIR GREAT 11:35 CONTROVERSY. 11:35 WE HAD BEEN WORSHIPPERS OF GOD. 11:38 WE AS THE LEVITES, BRAHMANS HAD BEEN CALLED 11:40 BY GOD TO KEEP THE CREATOR GOD BEFORE OUR PEOPLE AND 11:44 WHAT DID WE DO, WE LEAD THEM INTO IDOLATRY. 11:47 WOW. 11:48 AND SO NOW BEFORE YOU EVEN COME TO THE BIBLE YOU CAN 11:52 START A MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE GOING BACK. 11:54 WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE CREATOR GOD. 11:57 WE NEED TO GET RID OF OUR IDOL WORSHIP. 12:01 BECAUSE WE DID IT BEFORE. 12:02 EXACTLY. 12:03 AND THIS IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN. 12:05 AND THEN WE'VE FOUND PROPHECIES EVEN WAY BEFORE 12:09 THE TIME OF CHRIST FORETELLING THAT IN THE 12:12 HINDU ANCIENT SCRIPTURE SAYING THERE WILL COME A 12:14 TIME WHEN GOD WILL INCARNATE HIMSELF AS A MAN 12:17 AND HE WILL COME AND TEACH MAN TO FOLLOW HIS HOLY 12:19 LAW. 12:20 WOW. 12:20 AND THEN WHO IS THIS? 12:21 WE HAVE THE ANSWER, THIS IS JESUS CHRIST. 12:24 SO THERE IS THE TIE. 12:25 AND THERE'S A TIE. 12:26 AND SO BY BUILDING IN A WAY LIKE THIS WE WENT FROM 12:31 2011 TO THE END OF 215 FROM TEN MEN TO A MOVEMENT 12:36 OF FIVE THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES. 12:38 SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME SO WE MAKE SURE TO GET THIS. 12:41 FROM TEN PEOPLE, WE STARTED WITH ONE, HE 12:43 CALLED HIS TEN COUSINS. 12:46 HE TRAINED THEM. 12:48 HIS TEN COUSINS WENT OUT AND TODAY THERE'S A 12:51 MOVEMENT OF FIVE THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES. 12:53 FANTASTIC. 12:54 SO IF YOU ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING 12:57 TODAY WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE YOU JOIN 13:00 US AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS 13:03 MOVEMENT WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH. 13:04 THE 10/40 WINDOW, A HUGE EXPANSE OF THE GLOBE AND 13:07 WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU HOW YOU CAN GET 13:09 INVOLVED. 13:10 I NEED TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL HERE AT HOME. 13:15 WHERE IS THE 10/40 WINDOW ANYWAY? 13:19 THOSE PEOPLE LIVE TOO FAR AWAY. 13:22 SOMEONE ELSE CAN TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS. 13:24 MAYBE THEY COULD JUST WATCH TV. 13:27 NEARLY THREE BILLION PEOPLE TO REACH. 13:31 MY HEAD HURTS. 13:32 THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO. 13:35 I GIVE UP. 13:37 WHAT'S THE POINT OF TRYING? 13:39 I CAN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 13:42 ACTUALLY YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 13:45 AND JESUS ASKED YOU TO GO TO ALL THE WORLD. 13:50 WHERE? 13:51 ALL THE WORLD. 13:53 HOW CAN I GO, I HAVE COMMITMENTS. 13:56 YOU CAN PRAY. 13:58 YOU CAN VOLUNTEER YOUR TALENTS. 14:01 YOU CAN TELL OTHERS. 14:03 YOU CAN GIVE MONEY TO SPONSOR BIBLE WORKERS. 14:06 MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING FOR HOPE AND 14:09 MEANING. 14:09 BUT THEY WON'T FIND IT WITHOUT YOU. 14:11 BE THE SPARK. 14:13 LIGHT THE FIRE. 14:15 FINISH THE WORK. 14:17 FINISH THE WORK. 14:20 BE THE SPARK. 14:23 AND WELCOME BACK TO ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS 14:24 HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH. 14:25 WE'RE HAVING A FASCINATING CONVERSATION HERE WITH 14:28 MARTY PHILLIPS. 14:29 WELCOME BACK TO ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS MARTY. 14:31 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 14:32 MY PLEASURE AGAIN TO BE HERE. 14:34 SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOUSE CHURCHES AND HOW 14:37 THESE HOUSE CHURCHES HOW THE LORD HAS THESE THINGS 14:40 HAVE JUST EXPANDED AND GROWN AND GIVE US THE 14:42 FIGURE THAT YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THE BREAK. 14:44 YES. 14:45 WELL WITH ONE OF THESE HOUSE CHURCH MOVEMENTS 14:47 THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH WE STARTED WITH ONE PERSON 14:51 IN 2011, SEPTEMBER OF 2011. 14:54 HE SHARED WITH TWELVE ACTUALLY COUSINS AND CLOSE 14:59 FRIENDS. 15:00 OF THE TWELVE TEN ACCEPTED THE ADVENTIST MESSAGE AND 15:03 TODAY THERE ARE ABOUT FIVE THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES. 15:04 WOW. 15:05 SO IT IS TOTALLY THE RIPPLE EFFECT. 15:06 LIKE WHEN YOU THROW A ROCK IN WATER AND THE RIPPLE 15:08 EFFECT. 15:09 LITERALLY THE LORD HAS MULTIPLIED ALL OF THAT. 15:10 HE HAS HE HAS. 15:10 OH FANTASTIC. 15:11 SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CLOSED COUNTRIES CAN YOU 15:12 GIVE US A DEFINITION OF WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT? 15:14 I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO NAME A COUNTRY BUT I'M 15:15 GOING TO, SURE A COUNTRY I WOULD SAY WHICH IS 15:16 RESTRICTIVE TO CHRISTIANS OPENLY WORKING IN IT. 15:18 SO IT'S A COUNTRY WHERE YOU HAVE TO SMUGGLE 15:19 BIBLES. 15:20 YES. 15:21 FOR EXAMPLE IN QUITE A FEW COUNTRIES IT'S AGAINST THE 15:22 LAW JUST TO OWN A BIBLE SO I WOULD CALL THAT A 15:23 RESTRICTIVE OR CLOSED COUNTRY. 15:24 SO PART OF THE STUFF WE DO IS GET BIBLES INTO CLOSED 15:25 COUNTRIES AS WELL. 15:26 AND YOU KNOW AGAIN AND I KEEP BRINGING THIS UP HERE 15:58 IN AMERICA HOW DO WE TAKE THIS FOR GRANTED THAT WE 16:04 CAN GO TO WALMART AND BUY A BIBLE. 16:06 WE CAN GO TO A YARD SALE AND BUY A BIBLE. 16:08 WE CAN EVEN GO TO YOU KNOW A THRIFT STORE AND BUY A 16:10 BIBLE. 16:11 AND HOW MANY BIBLES ARE THERE WHEN YOU GO TO A 16:13 CHRISTIAN BOOK STORE. 16:14 I MEAN TAKE YOUR PICK. 16:16 THAT'S TRUE. 16:17 AND SO HERE ARE THESE PEOPLE WHO, IF THEY WANTED 16:19 ONE, IT WOULD BE REALLY HARD FOR THEM TO GET A 16:21 BIBLE. 16:21 IT IS. 16:22 I MEAN WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY AND, IT'S 16:25 FUNNY, YOU CAN BE IN THE STRANGEST OF PLACES. 16:28 YOU CAN BE ON A CAMEL IN SOMALIA AND THEY ARE THERE 16:31 WITH THEIR IPHONE AND YOU SEE A GUY AND AN IPHONE ON 16:33 TOP OF HIS CAMEL AND THERE HE HAS OPEN ACCESS TO THE 16:37 WORLD. 16:38 YES. 16:39 WELL AND THAT'S THE NEAT THING TOO ABOUT WITH THE 16:41 MEGAVOICE PLAYERS THAT WE TALK ABOUT HERE. 16:44 AND WE ARE JUST SO EXCITED ABOUT THESE. 16:47 PEOPLE CAN HAVE THESE YOU KNOW THE EARBUDS AND 16:49 PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LISTENING 16:52 TO AND ALL OF THAT. 16:53 SO MARTY YOU WORK THEN YOUR ORGANIZATION THEN 16:56 PARTNERS WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH AND YOU'RE GOING 16:59 INTO ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS GROUPS 17:04 AND ALL OF THAT AND YOU'RE DOING A BIG WORK WITH 17:06 TRIBAL PEOPLE? 17:07 YES. 17:07 CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? 17:09 YES, WE STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH KIND OF 17:13 A REMOTE ISOLATED TRIBE. 17:14 I MEAN IT WASN'T COMPLETELY ISOLATED BUT IT 17:17 WAS STILL A PRIMITIVE TRIBE THAT ATE RATS, OH 17:21 MY, AND DRESSED VERY VERY PRIMITIVELY. 17:23 BUT WE JUST SAW THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST THERE HAD BEEN A 17:28 RESISTANCE TO GOSPEL AND WE JUST SAW THEM REALLY 17:32 TAKE OFF. 17:33 WE PLANTED ABOUT 400 HOUSE CHURCHES IN THE LAST 17:36 COUPLE OF YEARS. 17:38 AND IT'S JUST AMAZING TO SEE WHAT GOD HAS DONE AND 17:41 NOW MORE RECENTLY WE HAVE FELT THE LAST COUPLE OF 17:45 YEARS AFTER THAT EXPERIENCE WE WANTED TO 17:47 WORK WITH EXTREMELY REMOTE ISOLATED ALMOST 17:51 UNCONTACTED TRIBES. 17:52 AND I GOT THIS FEELING ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO 17:55 EIGHTEEN MONTHS AGO, THERE MUST BE A LOT OF ISOLATED 17:59 UNCONTACTED PEOPLE GROUPS. 18:00 I STARTED MY MINISTRY WORKING IN THE MIDDLE OF 18:03 THE AMAZON JUNGLE AND I KNEW THAT THERE WERE 18:06 UNCONTACTED TRIBES OR VERY LITTLE CONTACTED TRIBES 18:10 WHERE MAYBE ONE MEMBER OF THE TRIBE HAD SEEN THE 18:12 OUTSIDE WORLD. 18:14 BECAUSE OF WHY. 18:15 BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION BECAUSE SO HARD TO GET 18:17 THERE? 18:18 WELL PROBABLY THE REAL REASON IS THE FOLLOWING 18:20 THEIR REMOTE. 18:21 BUT TO ESCAPE FIRST SPANISH DOMINATION. 18:27 THERE WAS UNOFFICIAL SLAVERY UNTIL THE FORTIES 18:31 IN SOME COUNTRIES IN THE AMAZON BASIN. 18:33 WOW. 18:34 TODAY THE GOVERNMENTS, EVEN THOUGH MOST OF THE 18:37 AREAS ARE NATIONAL RESERVES, HAVE SOLD OIL 18:41 RIGHTS AND LUMBER RIGHTS AND THEIR SCARED AND 18:44 THEY'VE GONE DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO THE JUNGLE. 18:47 A LOT OF THEM ARE CANNIBAL GROUPS, STILL STILL STILL. 18:50 AND RECENTLY IT HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION AND WE 18:55 HAVE STARTED WORKING WITH PEOPLE LIKE, JUST FROM 18:58 HERE IT'S WHY I'VE HAD TO CUT SHORT MY TRIP HERE TO 19:03 WALLA WALLA. 19:04 BUT I'M GOING TO A CERTAIN COUNTRY IN SOUTH AMERICA 19:08 WHERE THERE'S AN ADVENTIST LADY AND SHE HAS WORKED 19:11 FOR THE GOVERNMENT IN TRACKING UNCONTACTED 19:15 ISOLATED TRIBES. 19:16 AND SHE TRACKED IN JUST ONE REGION OF THE AMAZON 19:20 JUNGLE WHERE THIS COUNTRY IS, JUST A SMALL REGION, 19:23 SEVENTEEN UNCONTACTED TRIBES THAT SHE, SEVENTEEN 19:26 SEVENTEEN, THAT SHE PERSONALLY FOUND. 19:29 OTHER COLLEAGUES TOGETHER THEY HAVE FOUND ABOUT ONE 19:33 HUNDRED THIRTY SIX IN HER COUNTRY. 19:35 WOW. 19:36 I PREFER NOT TO SAY THE COUNTRY BECAUSE WE DON'T 19:39 WANT. 19:39 NO. 19:40 THERE HAS STARTED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS TOURISM 19:43 OF FINDING THESE, TAKING EXPENSIVE TOURS TO SEE 19:50 UNCONTACTED PEOPLES AND IT BRINGS A LOT OF 19:52 DISRUPTION. 19:53 WELL CERTAINLY. 19:54 AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO SAY EXACTLY WHERE IT IS 19:56 BUT I'M GOING THERE AND SHE ACTUALLY IS AN EXPERT. 20:01 SHE CAN TREK FOR THREE TO FOUR WEEKS THROUGH THE 20:04 JUNGLE. 20:05 SHE WORKS WITH HER HUSBAND AND HER KIDS GO WITH HER. 20:07 BUT SHE IS A NEUROPSYCHOLOGIST THAT THE 20:11 GOVERNMENT HIRED TO BUILD THIS BRIDGE AND EDUCATION 20:14 SYSTEM TO MAKE CONTACT FIRST CONTACT. 20:17 WOW. 20:17 AND SHE, FASCINATING MARTY. 20:19 SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE MOVING INTO THIS AREA AS 20:22 WELL TO WORK WITH UNCONTACTED PEOPLES. 20:24 OH THIS IS FANTASTIC. 20:25 SO CURRENTLY WITH YOUR COMPANY YOU'RE IN HOW MANY 20:28 COUNTRIES? 20:30 WE'RE IN ABOUT FORTY COUNTRIES. 20:31 AND HOW MANY HOUSE CHURCHES? 20:34 ABOUT FIFTY THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES. 20:35 FIFTY THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES. 20:36 WOW. 20:37 SO YOU CAN THINK OF YES YOU KNOW WE DRIVE BY IN 20:41 OUR WESTERN CULTURE AND WE SEE A CHURCH AND THINK OH 20:45 THAT'S WONDERFUL. 20:46 THEY ARE BELIEVERS WHO ARE PRAISING THE LORD THERE 20:48 AND GATHERING. 20:49 BUT TO THINK ABOUT THESE CITIES AND PLACES AND 20:52 COUNTRIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALSO MEETING TOGETHER BUT 20:56 THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE A CROSS YOU KNOW AT THE TOP 20:59 OF THE STEEPLE AND ALL OF THAT. 21:00 YES. 21:01 SO FOR YOU MARTY WHAT IS THIS LIKE FOR YOU TO BE 21:03 INVOLVED WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH WITH YOUR COMPANY 21:05 WITH YOU KNOW GOING ON THIS ADVENTURE. 21:09 WHAT HAS THE LORD PUT IN YOU TO DO ALL THIS? 21:15 I DON'T KNOW. 21:16 IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT I DREAMED OR SOMETHING DOING 21:18 FIFTEEN TWENTY YEARS AGO BUT GOD HAS JUST BUILT 21:21 STEP BY STEP BY STEP AND WE'VE PARTNERED WITH 21:25 GOSPEL OUTREACH FOR FIFTEEN YEARS. 21:27 I USED TO BE THE COORDINATOR FOR THE GC FOR 21:30 UNDERGROUND HOUSE CHURCHES IN THE MUSLIM WORLD. 21:33 AND DURING THAT TIME WE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS 21:37 AND FROM THERE WE EXPANDED TO OTHER PEOPLE GROUPS AS 21:39 WE KEEP UNDERSTANDING BETTER AND BETTER THE 21:41 DYNAMICS AND THE PRINCIPLES OF HOW HOUSE 21:45 CHURCH WORKS WHATEVER THE CULTURE. 21:47 AND SO WE HAVE FOUND SOME VERY BASIC CORE PRINCIPLES 21:51 OF HOW TO BRING ALMOST A VIRAL EFFECT TO A HOUSE 21:54 CHURCH FOR THEM TO EXPLODE. 21:56 YES. 21:57 SO TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW AGAIN WE HEAR ABOUT THE 22:01 MUSLIMS AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT OTHER RELIGIONS 22:03 AND ALL OF THAT. 22:05 BUT WHY DO YOU THINK THAT, IN WHICHEVER GROUPS THESE 22:09 CLOSED COUNTRIES ARE, WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IT IS 22:12 GROWING SO MUCH. 22:15 I MEAN OF COURSE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE LORD BUT. 22:17 I WOULD SAY THE FOLLOWING. 22:18 THERE'S TWO THINGS. 22:19 AS GOD'S PEOPLE ARE READY GOD PREPARES THE GENERAL 22:25 POPULATION. 22:27 THERE IS AN ALMOST I WOULD SAY AN APOSTOLIC. 22:31 WHEN CHRIST GOES TO HEAVEN HE SAYS ALL POWER IS GIVEN 22:34 ME IN HEAVEN AND EARTH. 22:35 GO YE THEREFORE AND MAKE DISCIPLES. 22:37 AND FOR EXAMPLE, A FRIEND OF MINE, AS HE GOES IN 22:40 LOOKING FOR UNCONTACTED PEOPLE, A DIFFERENT ONE 22:42 FROM THE ONE I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT, BUT AS HE 22:45 GOES IN TO LOOK FOR UNCONTACTED PEOPLE THEY 22:48 WILL HAVE VISIONS AND DREAMS. 22:50 LIKE THE CHIEF OF THESE TRIBES THEY WILL DREAM 22:54 ABOUT HIM. 22:55 THEY WILL BE TOLD TO KEEP THE SABBATH TO PREPARE AND 22:58 DO THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THEY WILL BE PREPARED 23:00 ONCE HE HAS MADE A DECISION TO GO TO THEM. 23:03 AND WE HAVE SEEN THIS IN MUSLIMS. 23:04 AS WE ARE READY TO WORK WITH THEM BUILDING UPON 23:09 THESE FOUNDATIONS THAT GOD HAS ALREADY LAID THEN THEY 23:13 WILL HAVE VISIONS AND DREAMS AND GOD WILL JUST 23:16 POUR OUT MASSIVE OUTPOURINGS OF THE SPIRIT. 23:18 IN THE HINDU WORK WE'VE SEEN JUST INCREDIBLE 23:21 MIRACLES. 23:22 HEALINGS AMONG TRIBAL UNCONTACTED PEOPLE. 23:25 INCREDIBLE HEALINGS AND MIRACLES AND IN THE 23:28 MUSLIMS WE HAVE SEEN JUST AN OUTPOURING OF DREAMS 23:31 AND VISIONS. 23:32 YES. 23:33 WELL IT'S ALL RIGHT HERE, IT'S ALL RIGHT HERE IN THE 23:34 BIBLE AND WE READ ABOUT THE HEALINGS AND I DON'T 23:38 KNOW MAYBE IN OUR WESTERN CULTURE WE'RE JADED OR 23:40 SOMETHING BUT TO HEAR THESE STORIES IT EMPOWERS 23:43 MY FAITH TO KNOW THAT GOD IS WORKING AROUND OUR 23:47 WORLD IN HUGE WONDERFUL WAYS. 23:48 AND THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE DO THIS INTERVIEW SHOW 23:52 HERE WO WE CAN HEAR THE REPORTS ABOUT HOW THE LORD 23:54 IS WORKING. 23:55 DO YOU HAVE A STORY MARTY THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US 23:58 THAT COMES TO MIND YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN SHARE OF 24:02 AN INTERACTION THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD WITH 24:04 SOMEBODY? 24:04 WELL I CAN SHARE A FEW MONTHS AGO A COLLEAGUE 24:10 THAT I WORK WITH AND HE WORKS IN WEST AFRICA HE IS 24:12 ACTUALLY PAID FOR HIS SALARY IS PAID FOR BY 24:15 GOSPEL OUTREACH AND HE WAS SLEEPING ONE NIGHT. 24:16 ABOUT THREE IN THE MORNING SOMEONE WHO HAD BEEN VERY 24:18 HOSTILE TO HIM, THIS NEIGHBORING FAMILY BECAUSE 24:19 HE WAS A FOLLOWER OF JESUS, COMES AND POUNDS ON 24:20 THE DOOR AND HE GOES AND THEY SAY PLEASE PLEASE 24:22 COME AND HE IS WONDERING WHY ARE THEY POUNDING WHY 24:23 ARE THEY BEGGING FOR ME TO COME. 24:24 HE GOES TO THE DOOR AND THEY SAY PLEASE MY SON IS 24:26 DYING CAN YOU PLEASE COME. 24:26 SO HE GOES TO THE HOUSE. 24:27 THE KID IS IN CONVULSIONS LOOKING LIKE HE IS GOING 24:28 TO DIE. 24:29 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS PERSON FEELS THIS SENSE OF 24:30 PEACE COME IN AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MY POWER 24:32 TONIGHT. 24:32 TELL ALL THE PEOPLE TO LEAVE. 24:33 SO HE TELLS EVERYONE TO LEAVE THE ROOM EVEN THE 24:34 PARENTS. 24:35 AND THEY SAY WELL WE WANT TO BE WITH HIM THE LAST 24:36 FEW MOMENTS BEFORE HE DIES. 24:37 HE SAYS LEAVE THE ROOM AND EVERYONE JUST KIND OF 24:38 SHOCKED JUST LEFT THE ROOM. 24:39 HE SAID PLEASE CLOSE THE DOOR. 24:40 SO HE KNEELS DOWN BESIDE THE YOUNG MAN, HE PUTS HIS 24:46 HAND ON HIS FOREHEAD AND HE PRAYS AND HE SAYS, OH 24:53 MIGHTY GOD I ASK THAT YOU HEAL HIM NOW IN THE NAME 25:21 OF JESUS. 25:22 AND AS HE SAID THE NAME OF JESUS HE WAS FULLY 25:26 RESTORED AND HE WENT TO THE DOOR AND OPENED THE 25:31 DOOR AND AS THEY WALKED IN THE YOUNG MAN, WHO HADN'T 25:34 EATEN FOR SEVERAL DAYS, ASKED HIS MOTHER FOR FOOD. 25:38 AND THEN EVERYONE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF MAGIC 25:40 HE HAD DONE OR WHAT TYPE OF MEDICINE HE HAD GIVEN. 25:44 AND HE SAID NO HE JUST CAME AND PRAYED IN THE 25:48 NAME OF JESUS. 25:49 SO THIS FAMILY THAT HAD BEEN VERY RESISTANT, 25:52 HOSTILE ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY TURNED AROUND AND 25:54 SAID WE WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT JESUS. 25:56 OH. 25:57 MARTY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT. 25:59 YOU'RE SO WELCOME. 26:00 AND IF YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING 26:02 HERE AT ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS WE WOULD LIKE TO 26:04 ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET INVOLVED. 26:06 TO PARTNER WITH US HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH. 26:09 PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE GOAIM.ORG AND LEARN MORE 26:12 ABOUT HOW YOU CAN SUPPORT A GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKER 26:14 IN THE 10/40 WINDOW. 26:17 AND MAYBE YOU'RE DECIDING THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT TWO 26:19 GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS. 26:20 WHATEVER THE LORD IS IMPRESSING UPON YOU TO DO 26:24 WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. 26:25 WE ALSO WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO SEND YOU OUR 26:27 NEWSLETTER. 26:28 IT'S CALLED ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS JUST LIKE THE 26:30 NAME OF THE TV SHOW. 26:31 WE ALSO HAVE AN E-NEWSLETTER THAT WE WOULD 26:33 BE HAPPY TO SEND TO YOU. 26:35 PLEASE ALSO VISIT US ON FACEBOOK. 26:38 WE HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE AND PLEASE "LIKE" US. 26:41 THERE YOU WILL SEE VIDEOS AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION 26:43 AND GREAT STORIES FROM THE 10/40 WINDOW THAT WE'D 26:46 LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU. 26:47 WE ALSO HAVE AN INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT AND EVERYBODY IS 26:50 ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND KEEPING IN TOUCH WITH 26:52 FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES AND IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR YOU 26:55 TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE GREAT ORGANIZATION OF 26:58 GOSPEL OUTREACH. 26:59 AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, WE THANK YOU FOR 27:02 YOUR PRAYERS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO JUST HEARING 27:05 FROM YOU AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND US AN EMAIL 27:08 YOU CAN SEND IT TO OFFICE@GOAIM.ORG 27:10 27:13 US A PHONE CALL OUR PHONE NUMBER IS 509-525-2951. 27:19 AND WE AGAIN ASK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT HERE AS WE 27:23 ARE SHARING JESUS IN THE 10/40 WINDOW. 27:53 MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU. 28:29 [CLOSING MUSIC] |
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