Adventures in Missions

Small Groups & House Churches

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Julie Sanders Keymer (Host), Marty Phillips

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Series Code: AIM

Program Code: AIM000693A


00:00 [OPENING MUSIC].
00:14 WELCOME TO ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS FOR GOSPEL
00:17 OUTREACH.
00:18 I'M JULIE SANDERS KEYMER AND I AM SO GLAD THAT YOU
00:20 ARE TUNING IN TODAY BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO A
00:22 VERY VERY INTERESTING PROGRAM TODAY.
00:24 THERE ARE MANY TERMS THAT ARE FLYING AROUND ON THE
00:27 NEWS.
00:28 WE SEE THEM ONLINE, WE SEE THEM IN THE NEWSPAPER AND
00:31 ON THE TV NEWS.
00:33 WE'RE HEARING ABOUT MANY DIFFERENT RELIGIONS, MANY
00:36 DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF CULTURES AND THINGS LIKE
00:39 THAT AND TODAY WE ARE GOING TO BE ALSO TALKING
00:42 ABOUT THAT AND THE NEAT THING HERE ABOUT GOSPEL
00:44 OUTREACH THOUGH IS WE ARE SHARING JESUS IN A PLACE
00:47 CALLED THE 10/40 WINDOW.
00:49 AND AS YOU KNOW, AS I JUST MENTIONED, THAT WHOLE
00:51 10/40 WINDOW IS A PLACE THAT IS GETTING A LOT OF
00:55 INTEREST IN THE NEWS RIGHT MARTY PHILLIPS?
00:58 IT'S TRUE.
00:59 WELCOME TO ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS.
01:01 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE.
01:03 IT'S MY PLEASURE.
01:04 WELL IT'S GREAT HAVING YOU AND MARTY THIS WHOLE 10/40
01:07 WINDOW YOU KNOW WE TURN, LIKE I SAID, YOU TURN THE
01:10 NEWS, YOU TURN ON FACEBOOK WHATEVER.
01:13 WE ARE HEARING ALL SORTS OF EXCITING THINGS, SOME
01:16 THINGS THAT ARE TRAGIC THINGS AND RELIGION GETS
01:20 ALL MIXED UP IN ALL OF THAT.
01:22 IT'S TRUE.
01:25 YOU KNOW IT SEEMS TO BE THAT ACTUALLY A LOT OF
01:28 WHAT WE ARE SEEING ON THE NEWS IS A SMOKE SCREEN.
01:31 AND I WOULD SAY THIS IS SATAN'S SMOKE SCREEN.
01:34 HE DOESN'T WANT US TO KNOW WHAT GOD IS DOING BEHIND
01:39 THE SCENES BECAUSE WE SEE GOD RAINING DOWN VISIONS
01:43 AND DREAMS AMONG PEOPLE GROUPS THAT WE WOULD HAVE
01:46 NEVER IMAGINED BEFORE.
01:47 FOR EXAMPLE, WITHIN ISLAM MORE MUSLIMS HAVE BECOME
01:51 FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST IN THE LAST FIFTEEN YEARS THAN
01:54 THERE HAS IN THE LAST FIFTEEN HUNDRED YEARS.
01:57 WOW.
01:58 AND I WOULD SAY THERE ARE SOME MAJOR SHIFTS TAKING
02:02 ON IN THE MUSLIM WORLD THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ALL
02:05 THESE DIFFERENT LET'S SAY IDEOLOGICAL OR RELIGIOUS
02:09 WAYS OF LOOKING AT THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE FUNDAMENTALISM
02:13 IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND ACROSS THE MUSLIM WORLD,
02:18 WHILE WE SEE IN THE NEWS EVERY DAY IT'S ACTUALLY I
02:23 WOULD SAY IN DECLINE BECAUSE PEOPLE'S HEARTS
02:25 ARE BEING CURED AGAINST IT.
02:27 WE DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS.
02:29 NINETY PERCENT, NINETY-FIVE, NINETY-EIGHT
02:32 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION ARE SAYING WE DON'T EVER
02:35 WANT TO SEE THESE THINGS IN OUR COUNTRY.
02:39 IT'S HERE BUT IT'S A VERY VERY SMALL MINORITY AND
02:42 THE NEWS IS WHAT SHOWS ARE HORRIBLE THINGS.
02:46 WELL YES BECAUSE IF THERE'S A BOMBING IN
02:48 LONDON OR PARIS OR WHEREVER OF COURSE
02:50 EVERYBODY IS FOCUSING ON THERE AND WHERE IS THAT?
02:54 WELL IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS OR WHATEVER.
02:56 EXACTLY JUST LIKE IN MY HOME TOWN IN CHATTANOOGA.
02:59 THERE WAS A BOMBING A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO
03:01 YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
03:03 NOT A BOMBING BUT A SHOOTING.
03:04 A MUSLIM YOUNG MAN JUST CAME OUT AND KILLED A
03:08 BUNCH OF MARINES.
03:09 JUST DROVE UP AND UNEXPECTEDLY.
03:12 HE HAD GROWN UP IN THIS COUNTRY.
03:14 AND THEN THE QUESTION WAS WHY.
03:16 YES, THAT'S ALWAYS THE QUESTION.
03:18 YES, THAT'S ALWAYS THE QUESTION.
03:19 SO YOU ARE INVOLVED HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH AND
03:23 YOUR JOB IS ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING BUT BEFORE WE
03:25 GO INTO THAT CAN YOU GIVE OUR VIEWERS A LITTLE
03:27 BACKGROUND ABOUT YOU AND YOUR EDUCATION.
03:30 YES I FELT CALLING TO THE MINISTRY SINCE THE TIME I
03:33 WAS A CHILD.
03:34 BOTH MY PARENTS ARE MINISTERS.
03:35 AND MY GRANDPARENTS WERE ALSO LIKE LAY MINISTERS
03:35 AND IT WAS SOMETHING I ALWAYS FELT A CALLING.
03:37 NOT JUST BECAUSE MY FAMILY HAD BEEN INVOLVED BUT I
03:38 WANTED TO BE INVOLVED IN MISSION.
03:40 WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL I REALLY GOT INTO HOW CAN WE
03:42 REALLY SEE GOD SPREAD THE GOSPEL QUICKLY.
03:45 AND I STARTED EXPERIMENTING READING
03:55 EVERYTHING THAT WAS AVAILABLE AND THEN LATER I
04:06 HAVE A GRADUATE DEGREE AND POST GRADUATE DEGREE IN
04:10 MISSIONS FROM ANDREWS UNIVERSITY.
04:12 FANTASTIC.
04:13 SO HOW DO YOU WORK WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH?
04:16 HOW DO WE WORK WITH YOU AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT
04:19 OF THAT.
04:20 YES, I WORK FOR AN ORGANIZATION CALLED
04:21 NPRAXIS AND WE PARTNER WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH AND
04:25 WE PARTNER TOGETHER.
04:26 WE RUN A NETWORK OF HOUSE CHURCHES IN ABOUT FORTY
04:30 COUNTRIES.
04:31 WE WORK IN ABOUT TWENTY-EIGHT CLOSED
04:33 COUNTRIES AND WE PARTNER MAINLY TOGETHER WITH
04:36 GOSPEL OUTREACH IN CLOSED COUNTRIES.
04:38 YOU HELP FUND US.
04:39 WE RUN A TRAINING OF TRAINER SYSTEM WHAT WE
04:42 CALL A NON-HIERARCHICAL ORGANIZED SYSTEM OF
04:47 TRAINING THAT HAPPENS AS WE START BUILDING HOUSE
04:49 CHURCHES.
04:50 WE HAVE FOUND WITH THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE SO
04:52 FAR THAT WITHIN ABOUT A PERIOD OF SIX TO EIGHTEEN
04:54 MONTHS OF WHEN WE START PLANTING A HOUSE CHURCH
04:55 AND ONCE WE HAVE A NUCLEUS WE CAN USUALLY PLANT ABOUT
04:56 TWO HUNDRED CHURCHES IN A TWO YEAR PERIOD.
04:58 FOR EXAMPLE IN ONE PEOPLE GROUP THAT WE WORK WITH
04:59 WITHIN FIVE YEARS WE'VE PLANTED ABOUT FIVE
05:01 THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES.
05:01 FANTASTIC.
05:02 IN ANOTHER GROUP THAT WE WORK WITH WE HAVE BEEN
05:03 WORKING WITH THEM FIFTEEN YEARS NOW.
05:05 WE STARTED WITH ONE GROUP AND WE'RE NOW AT WELL
05:06 ABOVE THIRTY THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES.
05:07 SO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHEN WE HEAR A HOUSE CHURCH AND
05:09 I'VE BEEN TO CHINA AND I'VE BEEN TO HOUSE
05:32 CHURCHES BUT FOR THESE CHURCHES THAT YOU'RE
05:35 MENTIONING CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT TERM
05:37 MEANS, HOUSE CHURCH.
05:39 YES.
05:40 HOUSE CHURCH IS A CHURCH WHERE THE NUCLEUS IS THE
05:47 FAMILY AND OTHER CLOSE FAMILY.
05:51 MAYBE UP TO THREE FAMILY UNITS BUT MOSTLY IT'S A
05:56 HOME AND IT MIGHT JUMP AROUND BETWEEN THREE OR
05:59 FOUR ACTUALLY WHEN YOU MEET BUT IT WILL BE MOM
06:02 AND DAD, THEIR KIDS, MAYBE YOUR COUSIN, YOUR BROTHER,
06:06 YOUR GRANDMA AND GRANDPA BUT WE TRY TO KEEP IT TO
06:08 CLOSE FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
06:10 TWO OR THREE CLOSE FRIENDS THEY FORM A HOUSE CHURCH.
06:13 WHAT WE'VE FOUND WITH A LOT OF EXPERIMENTATION IT
06:15 DOESN'T WORK TO DIVIDE.
06:18 SO YOU HAVE A CONSTANT ONGOING HOUSE CHURCH BASED
06:21 ON A FAMILY NUCLEUS OR TWO OR THREE FAMILY NUCLEUS.
06:24 PEOPLE COME TO EXPERIENCE THAT HOUSE CHURCH AND THEY
06:28 GO BACK TO PLANT IT IN THEIR HOUSE.
06:30 AND YOU KNOW WHAT CAME AND HIT ME.
06:32 RAHAB HAD A HOUSE CHURCH.
06:33 (LAUGHTER) SHE HAD A HOUSE CHURCH AND THEN IT SPREAD
06:38 EVERYWHERE, SPREAD EVERYWHERE.
06:40 YES.
06:41 SO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE REASON THOUGH OF HAVING
06:43 THE HOUSE CHURCH.
06:44 SAFETY?
06:45 ACTUALLY MOST PEOPLE WOULD THINK IT'S SAFETY.
06:48 WHAT WE HAVE FOUND THAT WHEN YOU PUT A DNA OF A
06:53 HOUSE CHURCH INTO A MOVEMENT WHETHER IT'S IN
06:59 HOUSTON, TEXAS OR IF IT'S IN SAUDI ARABIA OR
07:03 SOMALIA, EITHER A CLOSED COUNTRY OR AN OPEN COUNTRY
07:07 LIKE OURSELVES, WHEN A PHYSICAL BUILDING ISN'T
07:10 TIED TO A CHURCH MOVEMENT IT GROWS MUCH FASTER.
07:15 IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CHURCH ONCE YOU COME TO A
07:17 HUNDRED MEMBERS IT'S VERY HARD TO JUMP OVER THE
07:21 HUNDRED AND TWENTY MARK TO GET UP TO TWO FIFTY AND SO
07:24 FORTH AND WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT THOUSANDS,
07:26 HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO A
07:29 CHURCH BUILDING IT REPLICATES VERY QUICKLY.
07:31 INTERESTING.
07:32 AND WHEN EVERY FAMILY FEELS RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE
07:35 WHAT WE TEACH THE PEOPLE IN OUR HOUSE CHURCH IS THE
07:37 FOLLOWING: THINK OF THE CLOSEST PEOPLE TO YOU,
07:40 THIRTY PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT TO BRING TO CHRIST.
07:43 SO EVERYONE IN THE FAMILY, EVERYONE IN THE HOUSE
07:46 CHURCH IS THINKING OF THIRTY PEOPLE.
07:48 YOUR CLASS MATES, YOUR COUSINS, THE PEOPLE YOU
07:52 WORK WITH AND THEN YOU BRING THOSE TO FIVE MOST
07:54 IMPORTANT PEOPLE.
07:55 THE TWO PEOPLE CLOSEST TO YOU THAT YOU THINK WILL BE
07:59 THE EASIEST THE MOST SPIRITUALLY OPEN TO BRING
08:02 TO FAITH.
08:03 THE PERSON THAT IF YOU BROUGHT TO FAITH WOULD
08:06 HAVE THE MOST INFLUENCE AND BRING THE MOST PEOPLE.
08:09 THESE TWO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT IF YOU BRING THEM TO
08:13 FAITH YOU WILL BRING THAT ONE AND THEN TOGETHER YOU
08:17 BRING THIS ONE AND THEN IT HELPS BUILD.
08:19 SO AS PEOPLE COME TO FAITH AND YOU KEEP ADDING SO YOU
08:22 ALWAYS KEEP FIVE THAT YOUR PRAYING.
08:24 GOT YOU.
08:25 AND SO EVERY WEEK IN YOUR HOUSE CHURCH MEETING
08:26 EVERYONE IS ASKED HOW ARE YOUR FIVE.
08:27 HOW ARE YOUR FIVE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
08:28 WHAT ARE DOING?
08:30 AND YOU TELL AND YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNTABILITY.
08:35 AND YOU KNOW WHAT MARTY, THAT'S NETWORK MARKETING
08:39 FOR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
08:41 I MEAN WHY ARE WE NOT DOING THAT IN OPEN
08:44 COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD?
08:46 YOU JUST YOU JUST DESCRIBED BEAUTIFULLY WHAT
08:49 WE ALL SHOULD BE DOING SO.
08:50 SO THERE'S A SCRIPTURE, A COUPLE OF THEM, THAT WE
08:54 WERE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU SUGGESTED THAT THEY WOULD
08:56 BE GOOD FOR US TO COMMENT ABOUT.
08:59 SO ACTS 17 IT SAYS FROM ONE MAN HE MADE ALL THE
09:03 NATIONS THAT THEY SHOULD INHABIT THE WHOLE EARTH
09:06 AND HE MARKED OUT THEIR APPOINTED TIMES IN HISTORY
09:09 AND THE BOUNDARIES OF THEIR LAND.
09:12 GOD DID THIS SO THAT THEY WOULD SEEK HIM AND PERHAPS
09:15 REACH OUT FOR HIM AND FIND HIM THOUGH HE IS NOT FAR
09:18 FROM ANY ONE OF US.
09:21 SO WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT TO YOU MARTY?
09:22 WELL WHAT I HAVE FOUND IS THAT AS IT SAYS THERE GOD
09:26 IS THE ONE WHO HAS MARKED OUT EVERY PEOPLES
09:29 BOUNDARIES AND HE HAS GIVEN THEM A TIME AND
09:31 PLACE.
09:32 SO FOR WHAT REASON THAT THEY MIGHT REACH OUT AND
09:35 FIND GOD.
09:36 SO WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS GOD HAS BEEN WORKING IN
09:41 EVERY PEOPLE GROUP BEFORE THE MISSIONARIES EVER
09:44 ARRIVED.
09:45 AND IF YOU GO WITH THE BASIS OF LOOKING FOR GOD
09:48 AND NOT LOOKING FOR SATAN OR COMING TO IMPOSE MY
09:51 UNDERSTANDING BUT YOU COME TO FIND WHERE WAS GOD HERE
09:55 IT'S AMAZING.
09:56 AND HE'S BEEN THERE ALL ALONG.
09:57 HE'S BEEN THERE ALL ALONG AND SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO
09:59 IS TO SEE THE STORY OF THE GREAT CONTROVERSY THAT HAS
10:03 HAPPENED IN THAT PEOPLE GROUP.
10:04 AND THEN THEY START, BEFORE THEY EVEN EVER COME
10:07 TO FULL FAITH THEY START BEING WOW, WE HAD ALL THIS
10:11 TRUTH.
10:12 FOR EXAMPLE, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE WORK WITH,
10:15 WE PARTNER WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH WITH WORK IN
10:17 INDIA AMONG HINDU PEOPLE.
10:20 BEFORE WE EVER STARTED WORK WE SPENT TWO YEARS.
10:23 WE HIRED SOMEONE WHO HAD BECOME AN ADVENTIST BUT HE
10:27 HAD BEEN A BRAHMAN PRIEST, HE WAS AN EXPERT IN
10:30 SANSKRIT AND WE SAID WE WANT YOU TO STUDY THE
10:33 GREAT CONTROVERSY FOR THE HINDU PEOPLE.
10:36 WHERE WERE YOU, WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR ANCIENT
10:39 SCRIPTURE SAY, YOUR MOST ANCIENT SCRIPTURE THE RIG
10:42 VEDA WHICH WAS WRITTEN PROBABLY ABOUT THE TIME OF
10:45 ABRAHAM.
10:46 WOW.
10:46 WELL WHAT DID WE FIND OUT?
10:48 THAT IN THE RIG VEDA IT WAS ORIGINALLY
10:51 MONOTHEISTIC.
10:53 THEY LATER BECAME POLYTHEISTIC BELIEVING IN
10:56 MANY GODS BUT ORIGINALLY IT HAS DIFFERENT HAMES BUT
10:58 IT'S LIKE THE BIBLE ALL REFERRING TO THE ONE
11:01 CREATOR GOD.
11:02 THEY HAD A SACRIFICIAL SYSTEM VERY SIMILAR TO THE
11:05 JEWS.
11:06 THEY HAD A TEMPLE THAT WAS TO WORSHIP THE ONE CREATOR
11:08 GOD AND WHAT HAPPENED.
11:10 IN THE PASSING OF TIME THEY STARTED TO CALL THE
11:13 ALTAR A GOD.
11:14 THEN THEY BUILT A GRAVEN IMAGE AND PUT IT ON TOP OF
11:17 THE ALTAR.
11:18 NOW THEY HAD THE IDOL AND THE ALTAR.
11:20 AND THEN MORE AND MORE IDOLS WERE BROUGHT IN AND
11:25 SO NOW THEY HAD THESE GODS AND SO THIS EX-PRIEST HE
11:31 STARTED RESEARCHING ALL THIS.
11:32 AND SO THEN HE STARTED BUILDING THEIR GREAT
11:35 CONTROVERSY.
11:35 WE HAD BEEN WORSHIPPERS OF GOD.
11:38 WE AS THE LEVITES, BRAHMANS HAD BEEN CALLED
11:40 BY GOD TO KEEP THE CREATOR GOD BEFORE OUR PEOPLE AND
11:44 WHAT DID WE DO, WE LEAD THEM INTO IDOLATRY.
11:47 WOW.
11:48 AND SO NOW BEFORE YOU EVEN COME TO THE BIBLE YOU CAN
11:52 START A MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE GOING BACK.
11:54 WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE CREATOR GOD.
11:57 WE NEED TO GET RID OF OUR IDOL WORSHIP.
12:01 BECAUSE WE DID IT BEFORE.
12:02 EXACTLY.
12:03 AND THIS IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN.
12:05 AND THEN WE'VE FOUND PROPHECIES EVEN WAY BEFORE
12:09 THE TIME OF CHRIST FORETELLING THAT IN THE
12:12 HINDU ANCIENT SCRIPTURE SAYING THERE WILL COME A
12:14 TIME WHEN GOD WILL INCARNATE HIMSELF AS A MAN
12:17 AND HE WILL COME AND TEACH MAN TO FOLLOW HIS HOLY
12:19 LAW.
12:20 WOW.
12:20 AND THEN WHO IS THIS?
12:21 WE HAVE THE ANSWER, THIS IS JESUS CHRIST.
12:24 SO THERE IS THE TIE.
12:25 AND THERE'S A TIE.
12:26 AND SO BY BUILDING IN A WAY LIKE THIS WE WENT FROM
12:31 2011 TO THE END OF 215 FROM TEN MEN TO A MOVEMENT
12:36 OF FIVE THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES.
12:38 SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME SO WE MAKE SURE TO GET THIS.
12:41 FROM TEN PEOPLE, WE STARTED WITH ONE, HE
12:43 CALLED HIS TEN COUSINS.
12:46 HE TRAINED THEM.
12:48 HIS TEN COUSINS WENT OUT AND TODAY THERE'S A
12:51 MOVEMENT OF FIVE THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES.
12:53 FANTASTIC.
12:54 SO IF YOU ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING
12:57 TODAY WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE YOU JOIN
13:00 US AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS
13:03 MOVEMENT WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH.
13:04 THE 10/40 WINDOW, A HUGE EXPANSE OF THE GLOBE AND
13:07 WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU HOW YOU CAN GET
13:09 INVOLVED.
13:10 I NEED TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL HERE AT HOME.
13:15 WHERE IS THE 10/40 WINDOW ANYWAY?
13:19 THOSE PEOPLE LIVE TOO FAR AWAY.
13:22 SOMEONE ELSE CAN TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS.
13:24 MAYBE THEY COULD JUST WATCH TV.
13:27 NEARLY THREE BILLION PEOPLE TO REACH.
13:31 MY HEAD HURTS.
13:32 THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO.
13:35 I GIVE UP.
13:37 WHAT'S THE POINT OF TRYING?
13:39 I CAN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
13:42 ACTUALLY YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
13:45 AND JESUS ASKED YOU TO GO TO ALL THE WORLD.
13:50 WHERE?
13:51 ALL THE WORLD.
13:53 HOW CAN I GO, I HAVE COMMITMENTS.
13:56 YOU CAN PRAY.
13:58 YOU CAN VOLUNTEER YOUR TALENTS.
14:01 YOU CAN TELL OTHERS.
14:03 YOU CAN GIVE MONEY TO SPONSOR BIBLE WORKERS.
14:06 MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING FOR HOPE AND
14:09 MEANING.
14:09 BUT THEY WON'T FIND IT WITHOUT YOU.
14:11 BE THE SPARK.
14:13 LIGHT THE FIRE.
14:15 FINISH THE WORK.
14:17 FINISH THE WORK.
14:20 BE THE SPARK.
14:23 AND WELCOME BACK TO ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS
14:24 HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH.
14:25 WE'RE HAVING A FASCINATING CONVERSATION HERE WITH
14:28 MARTY PHILLIPS.
14:29 WELCOME BACK TO ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS MARTY.
14:31 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
14:32 MY PLEASURE AGAIN TO BE HERE.
14:34 SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOUSE CHURCHES AND HOW
14:37 THESE HOUSE CHURCHES HOW THE LORD HAS THESE THINGS
14:40 HAVE JUST EXPANDED AND GROWN AND GIVE US THE
14:42 FIGURE THAT YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THE BREAK.
14:44 YES.
14:45 WELL WITH ONE OF THESE HOUSE CHURCH MOVEMENTS
14:47 THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH WE STARTED WITH ONE PERSON
14:51 IN 2011, SEPTEMBER OF 2011.
14:54 HE SHARED WITH TWELVE ACTUALLY COUSINS AND CLOSE
14:59 FRIENDS.
15:00 OF THE TWELVE TEN ACCEPTED THE ADVENTIST MESSAGE AND
15:03 TODAY THERE ARE ABOUT FIVE THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES.
15:04 WOW.
15:05 SO IT IS TOTALLY THE RIPPLE EFFECT.
15:06 LIKE WHEN YOU THROW A ROCK IN WATER AND THE RIPPLE
15:08 EFFECT.
15:09 LITERALLY THE LORD HAS MULTIPLIED ALL OF THAT.
15:10 HE HAS HE HAS.
15:10 OH FANTASTIC.
15:11 SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CLOSED COUNTRIES CAN YOU
15:12 GIVE US A DEFINITION OF WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT?
15:14 I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO NAME A COUNTRY BUT I'M
15:15 GOING TO, SURE A COUNTRY I WOULD SAY WHICH IS
15:16 RESTRICTIVE TO CHRISTIANS OPENLY WORKING IN IT.
15:18 SO IT'S A COUNTRY WHERE YOU HAVE TO SMUGGLE
15:19 BIBLES.
15:20 YES.
15:21 FOR EXAMPLE IN QUITE A FEW COUNTRIES IT'S AGAINST THE
15:22 LAW JUST TO OWN A BIBLE SO I WOULD CALL THAT A
15:23 RESTRICTIVE OR CLOSED COUNTRY.
15:24 SO PART OF THE STUFF WE DO IS GET BIBLES INTO CLOSED
15:25 COUNTRIES AS WELL.
15:26 AND YOU KNOW AGAIN AND I KEEP BRINGING THIS UP HERE
15:58 IN AMERICA HOW DO WE TAKE THIS FOR GRANTED THAT WE
16:04 CAN GO TO WALMART AND BUY A BIBLE.
16:06 WE CAN GO TO A YARD SALE AND BUY A BIBLE.
16:08 WE CAN EVEN GO TO YOU KNOW A THRIFT STORE AND BUY A
16:10 BIBLE.
16:11 AND HOW MANY BIBLES ARE THERE WHEN YOU GO TO A
16:13 CHRISTIAN BOOK STORE.
16:14 I MEAN TAKE YOUR PICK.
16:16 THAT'S TRUE.
16:17 AND SO HERE ARE THESE PEOPLE WHO, IF THEY WANTED
16:19 ONE, IT WOULD BE REALLY HARD FOR THEM TO GET A
16:21 BIBLE.
16:21 IT IS.
16:22 I MEAN WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY AND, IT'S
16:25 FUNNY, YOU CAN BE IN THE STRANGEST OF PLACES.
16:28 YOU CAN BE ON A CAMEL IN SOMALIA AND THEY ARE THERE
16:31 WITH THEIR IPHONE AND YOU SEE A GUY AND AN IPHONE ON
16:33 TOP OF HIS CAMEL AND THERE HE HAS OPEN ACCESS TO THE
16:37 WORLD.
16:38 YES.
16:39 WELL AND THAT'S THE NEAT THING TOO ABOUT WITH THE
16:41 MEGAVOICE PLAYERS THAT WE TALK ABOUT HERE.
16:44 AND WE ARE JUST SO EXCITED ABOUT THESE.
16:47 PEOPLE CAN HAVE THESE YOU KNOW THE EARBUDS AND
16:49 PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LISTENING
16:52 TO AND ALL OF THAT.
16:53 SO MARTY YOU WORK THEN YOUR ORGANIZATION THEN
16:56 PARTNERS WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH AND YOU'RE GOING
16:59 INTO ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS GROUPS
17:04 AND ALL OF THAT AND YOU'RE DOING A BIG WORK WITH
17:06 TRIBAL PEOPLE?
17:07 YES.
17:07 CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT?
17:09 YES, WE STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH KIND OF
17:13 A REMOTE ISOLATED TRIBE.
17:14 I MEAN IT WASN'T COMPLETELY ISOLATED BUT IT
17:17 WAS STILL A PRIMITIVE TRIBE THAT ATE RATS, OH
17:21 MY, AND DRESSED VERY VERY PRIMITIVELY.
17:23 BUT WE JUST SAW THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST THERE HAD BEEN A
17:28 RESISTANCE TO GOSPEL AND WE JUST SAW THEM REALLY
17:32 TAKE OFF.
17:33 WE PLANTED ABOUT 400 HOUSE CHURCHES IN THE LAST
17:36 COUPLE OF YEARS.
17:38 AND IT'S JUST AMAZING TO SEE WHAT GOD HAS DONE AND
17:41 NOW MORE RECENTLY WE HAVE FELT THE LAST COUPLE OF
17:45 YEARS AFTER THAT EXPERIENCE WE WANTED TO
17:47 WORK WITH EXTREMELY REMOTE ISOLATED ALMOST
17:51 UNCONTACTED TRIBES.
17:52 AND I GOT THIS FEELING ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO
17:55 EIGHTEEN MONTHS AGO, THERE MUST BE A LOT OF ISOLATED
17:59 UNCONTACTED PEOPLE GROUPS.
18:00 I STARTED MY MINISTRY WORKING IN THE MIDDLE OF
18:03 THE AMAZON JUNGLE AND I KNEW THAT THERE WERE
18:06 UNCONTACTED TRIBES OR VERY LITTLE CONTACTED TRIBES
18:10 WHERE MAYBE ONE MEMBER OF THE TRIBE HAD SEEN THE
18:12 OUTSIDE WORLD.
18:14 BECAUSE OF WHY.
18:15 BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION BECAUSE SO HARD TO GET
18:17 THERE?
18:18 WELL PROBABLY THE REAL REASON IS THE FOLLOWING
18:20 THEIR REMOTE.
18:21 BUT TO ESCAPE FIRST SPANISH DOMINATION.
18:27 THERE WAS UNOFFICIAL SLAVERY UNTIL THE FORTIES
18:31 IN SOME COUNTRIES IN THE AMAZON BASIN.
18:33 WOW.
18:34 TODAY THE GOVERNMENTS, EVEN THOUGH MOST OF THE
18:37 AREAS ARE NATIONAL RESERVES, HAVE SOLD OIL
18:41 RIGHTS AND LUMBER RIGHTS AND THEIR SCARED AND
18:44 THEY'VE GONE DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO THE JUNGLE.
18:47 A LOT OF THEM ARE CANNIBAL GROUPS, STILL STILL STILL.
18:50 AND RECENTLY IT HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION AND WE
18:55 HAVE STARTED WORKING WITH PEOPLE LIKE, JUST FROM
18:58 HERE IT'S WHY I'VE HAD TO CUT SHORT MY TRIP HERE TO
19:03 WALLA WALLA.
19:04 BUT I'M GOING TO A CERTAIN COUNTRY IN SOUTH AMERICA
19:08 WHERE THERE'S AN ADVENTIST LADY AND SHE HAS WORKED
19:11 FOR THE GOVERNMENT IN TRACKING UNCONTACTED
19:15 ISOLATED TRIBES.
19:16 AND SHE TRACKED IN JUST ONE REGION OF THE AMAZON
19:20 JUNGLE WHERE THIS COUNTRY IS, JUST A SMALL REGION,
19:23 SEVENTEEN UNCONTACTED TRIBES THAT SHE, SEVENTEEN
19:26 SEVENTEEN, THAT SHE PERSONALLY FOUND.
19:29 OTHER COLLEAGUES TOGETHER THEY HAVE FOUND ABOUT ONE
19:33 HUNDRED THIRTY SIX IN HER COUNTRY.
19:35 WOW.
19:36 I PREFER NOT TO SAY THE COUNTRY BECAUSE WE DON'T
19:39 WANT.
19:39 NO.
19:40 THERE HAS STARTED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS TOURISM
19:43 OF FINDING THESE, TAKING EXPENSIVE TOURS TO SEE
19:50 UNCONTACTED PEOPLES AND IT BRINGS A LOT OF
19:52 DISRUPTION.
19:53 WELL CERTAINLY.
19:54 AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO SAY EXACTLY WHERE IT IS
19:56 BUT I'M GOING THERE AND SHE ACTUALLY IS AN EXPERT.
20:01 SHE CAN TREK FOR THREE TO FOUR WEEKS THROUGH THE
20:04 JUNGLE.
20:05 SHE WORKS WITH HER HUSBAND AND HER KIDS GO WITH HER.
20:07 BUT SHE IS A NEUROPSYCHOLOGIST THAT THE
20:11 GOVERNMENT HIRED TO BUILD THIS BRIDGE AND EDUCATION
20:14 SYSTEM TO MAKE CONTACT FIRST CONTACT.
20:17 WOW.
20:17 AND SHE, FASCINATING MARTY.
20:19 SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE MOVING INTO THIS AREA AS
20:22 WELL TO WORK WITH UNCONTACTED PEOPLES.
20:24 OH THIS IS FANTASTIC.
20:25 SO CURRENTLY WITH YOUR COMPANY YOU'RE IN HOW MANY
20:28 COUNTRIES?
20:30 WE'RE IN ABOUT FORTY COUNTRIES.
20:31 AND HOW MANY HOUSE CHURCHES?
20:34 ABOUT FIFTY THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES.
20:35 FIFTY THOUSAND HOUSE CHURCHES.
20:36 WOW.
20:37 SO YOU CAN THINK OF YES YOU KNOW WE DRIVE BY IN
20:41 OUR WESTERN CULTURE AND WE SEE A CHURCH AND THINK OH
20:45 THAT'S WONDERFUL.
20:46 THEY ARE BELIEVERS WHO ARE PRAISING THE LORD THERE
20:48 AND GATHERING.
20:49 BUT TO THINK ABOUT THESE CITIES AND PLACES AND
20:52 COUNTRIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALSO MEETING TOGETHER BUT
20:56 THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE A CROSS YOU KNOW AT THE TOP
20:59 OF THE STEEPLE AND ALL OF THAT.
21:00 YES.
21:01 SO FOR YOU MARTY WHAT IS THIS LIKE FOR YOU TO BE
21:03 INVOLVED WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH WITH YOUR COMPANY
21:05 WITH YOU KNOW GOING ON THIS ADVENTURE.
21:09 WHAT HAS THE LORD PUT IN YOU TO DO ALL THIS?
21:15 I DON'T KNOW.
21:16 IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT I DREAMED OR SOMETHING DOING
21:18 FIFTEEN TWENTY YEARS AGO BUT GOD HAS JUST BUILT
21:21 STEP BY STEP BY STEP AND WE'VE PARTNERED WITH
21:25 GOSPEL OUTREACH FOR FIFTEEN YEARS.
21:27 I USED TO BE THE COORDINATOR FOR THE GC FOR
21:30 UNDERGROUND HOUSE CHURCHES IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.
21:33 AND DURING THAT TIME WE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS
21:37 AND FROM THERE WE EXPANDED TO OTHER PEOPLE GROUPS AS
21:39 WE KEEP UNDERSTANDING BETTER AND BETTER THE
21:41 DYNAMICS AND THE PRINCIPLES OF HOW HOUSE
21:45 CHURCH WORKS WHATEVER THE CULTURE.
21:47 AND SO WE HAVE FOUND SOME VERY BASIC CORE PRINCIPLES
21:51 OF HOW TO BRING ALMOST A VIRAL EFFECT TO A HOUSE
21:54 CHURCH FOR THEM TO EXPLODE.
21:56 YES.
21:57 SO TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW AGAIN WE HEAR ABOUT THE
22:01 MUSLIMS AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT OTHER RELIGIONS
22:03 AND ALL OF THAT.
22:05 BUT WHY DO YOU THINK THAT, IN WHICHEVER GROUPS THESE
22:09 CLOSED COUNTRIES ARE, WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IT IS
22:12 GROWING SO MUCH.
22:15 I MEAN OF COURSE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE LORD BUT.
22:17 I WOULD SAY THE FOLLOWING.
22:18 THERE'S TWO THINGS.
22:19 AS GOD'S PEOPLE ARE READY GOD PREPARES THE GENERAL
22:25 POPULATION.
22:27 THERE IS AN ALMOST I WOULD SAY AN APOSTOLIC.
22:31 WHEN CHRIST GOES TO HEAVEN HE SAYS ALL POWER IS GIVEN
22:34 ME IN HEAVEN AND EARTH.
22:35 GO YE THEREFORE AND MAKE DISCIPLES.
22:37 AND FOR EXAMPLE, A FRIEND OF MINE, AS HE GOES IN
22:40 LOOKING FOR UNCONTACTED PEOPLE, A DIFFERENT ONE
22:42 FROM THE ONE I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT, BUT AS HE
22:45 GOES IN TO LOOK FOR UNCONTACTED PEOPLE THEY
22:48 WILL HAVE VISIONS AND DREAMS.
22:50 LIKE THE CHIEF OF THESE TRIBES THEY WILL DREAM
22:54 ABOUT HIM.
22:55 THEY WILL BE TOLD TO KEEP THE SABBATH TO PREPARE AND
22:58 DO THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THEY WILL BE PREPARED
23:00 ONCE HE HAS MADE A DECISION TO GO TO THEM.
23:03 AND WE HAVE SEEN THIS IN MUSLIMS.
23:04 AS WE ARE READY TO WORK WITH THEM BUILDING UPON
23:09 THESE FOUNDATIONS THAT GOD HAS ALREADY LAID THEN THEY
23:13 WILL HAVE VISIONS AND DREAMS AND GOD WILL JUST
23:16 POUR OUT MASSIVE OUTPOURINGS OF THE SPIRIT.
23:18 IN THE HINDU WORK WE'VE SEEN JUST INCREDIBLE
23:21 MIRACLES.
23:22 HEALINGS AMONG TRIBAL UNCONTACTED PEOPLE.
23:25 INCREDIBLE HEALINGS AND MIRACLES AND IN THE
23:28 MUSLIMS WE HAVE SEEN JUST AN OUTPOURING OF DREAMS
23:31 AND VISIONS.
23:32 YES.
23:33 WELL IT'S ALL RIGHT HERE, IT'S ALL RIGHT HERE IN THE
23:34 BIBLE AND WE READ ABOUT THE HEALINGS AND I DON'T
23:38 KNOW MAYBE IN OUR WESTERN CULTURE WE'RE JADED OR
23:40 SOMETHING BUT TO HEAR THESE STORIES IT EMPOWERS
23:43 MY FAITH TO KNOW THAT GOD IS WORKING AROUND OUR
23:47 WORLD IN HUGE WONDERFUL WAYS.
23:48 AND THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE DO THIS INTERVIEW SHOW
23:52 HERE WO WE CAN HEAR THE REPORTS ABOUT HOW THE LORD
23:54 IS WORKING.
23:55 DO YOU HAVE A STORY MARTY THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US
23:58 THAT COMES TO MIND YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN SHARE OF
24:02 AN INTERACTION THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD WITH
24:04 SOMEBODY?
24:04 WELL I CAN SHARE A FEW MONTHS AGO A COLLEAGUE
24:10 THAT I WORK WITH AND HE WORKS IN WEST AFRICA HE IS
24:12 ACTUALLY PAID FOR HIS SALARY IS PAID FOR BY
24:15 GOSPEL OUTREACH AND HE WAS SLEEPING ONE NIGHT.
24:16 ABOUT THREE IN THE MORNING SOMEONE WHO HAD BEEN VERY
24:18 HOSTILE TO HIM, THIS NEIGHBORING FAMILY BECAUSE
24:19 HE WAS A FOLLOWER OF JESUS, COMES AND POUNDS ON
24:20 THE DOOR AND HE GOES AND THEY SAY PLEASE PLEASE
24:22 COME AND HE IS WONDERING WHY ARE THEY POUNDING WHY
24:23 ARE THEY BEGGING FOR ME TO COME.
24:24 HE GOES TO THE DOOR AND THEY SAY PLEASE MY SON IS
24:26 DYING CAN YOU PLEASE COME.
24:26 SO HE GOES TO THE HOUSE.
24:27 THE KID IS IN CONVULSIONS LOOKING LIKE HE IS GOING
24:28 TO DIE.
24:29 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS PERSON FEELS THIS SENSE OF
24:30 PEACE COME IN AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MY POWER
24:32 TONIGHT.
24:32 TELL ALL THE PEOPLE TO LEAVE.
24:33 SO HE TELLS EVERYONE TO LEAVE THE ROOM EVEN THE
24:34 PARENTS.
24:35 AND THEY SAY WELL WE WANT TO BE WITH HIM THE LAST
24:36 FEW MOMENTS BEFORE HE DIES.
24:37 HE SAYS LEAVE THE ROOM AND EVERYONE JUST KIND OF
24:38 SHOCKED JUST LEFT THE ROOM.
24:39 HE SAID PLEASE CLOSE THE DOOR.
24:40 SO HE KNEELS DOWN BESIDE THE YOUNG MAN, HE PUTS HIS
24:46 HAND ON HIS FOREHEAD AND HE PRAYS AND HE SAYS, OH
24:53 MIGHTY GOD I ASK THAT YOU HEAL HIM NOW IN THE NAME
25:21 OF JESUS.
25:22 AND AS HE SAID THE NAME OF JESUS HE WAS FULLY
25:26 RESTORED AND HE WENT TO THE DOOR AND OPENED THE
25:31 DOOR AND AS THEY WALKED IN THE YOUNG MAN, WHO HADN'T
25:34 EATEN FOR SEVERAL DAYS, ASKED HIS MOTHER FOR FOOD.
25:38 AND THEN EVERYONE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF MAGIC
25:40 HE HAD DONE OR WHAT TYPE OF MEDICINE HE HAD GIVEN.
25:44 AND HE SAID NO HE JUST CAME AND PRAYED IN THE
25:48 NAME OF JESUS.
25:49 SO THIS FAMILY THAT HAD BEEN VERY RESISTANT,
25:52 HOSTILE ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY TURNED AROUND AND
25:54 SAID WE WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT JESUS.
25:56 OH.
25:57 MARTY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT.
25:59 YOU'RE SO WELCOME.
26:00 AND IF YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING
26:02 HERE AT ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS WE WOULD LIKE TO
26:04 ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET INVOLVED.
26:06 TO PARTNER WITH US HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH.
26:09 PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE GOAIM.ORG AND LEARN MORE
26:12 ABOUT HOW YOU CAN SUPPORT A GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKER
26:14 IN THE 10/40 WINDOW.
26:17 AND MAYBE YOU'RE DECIDING THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT TWO
26:19 GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS.
26:20 WHATEVER THE LORD IS IMPRESSING UPON YOU TO DO
26:24 WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.
26:25 WE ALSO WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO SEND YOU OUR
26:27 NEWSLETTER.
26:28 IT'S CALLED ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS JUST LIKE THE
26:30 NAME OF THE TV SHOW.
26:31 WE ALSO HAVE AN E-NEWSLETTER THAT WE WOULD
26:33 BE HAPPY TO SEND TO YOU.
26:35 PLEASE ALSO VISIT US ON FACEBOOK.
26:38 WE HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE AND PLEASE "LIKE" US.
26:41 THERE YOU WILL SEE VIDEOS AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION
26:43 AND GREAT STORIES FROM THE 10/40 WINDOW THAT WE'D
26:46 LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU.
26:47 WE ALSO HAVE AN INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT AND EVERYBODY IS
26:50 ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND KEEPING IN TOUCH WITH
26:52 FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES AND IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR YOU
26:55 TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE GREAT ORGANIZATION OF
26:58 GOSPEL OUTREACH.
26:59 AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, WE THANK YOU FOR
27:02 YOUR PRAYERS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO JUST HEARING
27:05 FROM YOU AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND US AN EMAIL
27:08 YOU CAN SEND IT TO OFFICE@GOAIM.ORG
27:10 AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE
27:13 US A PHONE CALL OUR PHONE NUMBER IS 509-525-2951.
27:19 AND WE AGAIN ASK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT HERE AS WE
27:23 ARE SHARING JESUS IN THE 10/40 WINDOW.
27:53 MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU.
28:29 [CLOSING MUSIC]


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