Participants: Ole Olesen (Host), Edwin and Marcie Dass
Series Code: AIM
Program Code: AIM000688A
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00:14 WHAT A JOY IT IS TO WELCOME YOU TO ADVENTURES 00:18 IN MISSIONS. 00:20 YOU DON'T KNOW HOW FUN IT IS TO GET TO INTERVIEW AND 00:23 HEAR THE STORIES. 00:25 I'M HOPING YOUR WATCHING AND I HOPE YOU WILL FIND 00:28 YOURSELF THINKING ABOUT GOD AND HIS IMPACT ON YOUR 00:33 LIFE THAT CAN SPREAD OUT TO OTHERS AROUND THE 00:35 WORLD. 00:37 THIS DAY WE GET TO MEET TWO WONDERFUL PEOPLE, 00:40 EDWIN DASS AND MARCIE DASS RIGHT? 00:45 YES. 00:46 AND YOU ARE HERE TO TELL US STORIES FROM I THINK 00:49 IT'S SOUTHERN ASIA. 00:50 NO, OH SOUTHERN ASIA THE DIVISION YES BUT THE MAIN 00:55 AREA WHERE WE WORK IS NORTHERN INDIA MAINLY OLD 00:59 NORTHERN INDIA. 01:00 A SECTION FROM KASHMIR TO ALMOST MADHYA PRADESH IN 01:06 THOSE AREAS. 01:07 ALONG ALL THAT STRETCH THAT LIES UP NEXT TO TIBET 01:12 AND NEXT TO NEPAL. 01:13 YES. 01:13 A BIG SECTION. 01:14 THERE ARE 650 MILLION PEOPLE LIVE IN THIS AREA 01:19 THAT NEED TO BE REACHED. 01:21 HOW IN THE WORLD WE'LL EVER REACH THEM I DON'T 01:23 KNOW. 01:24 SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION. 01:25 SOMEWHERE I READ THAT ONE OF THOSE STATES HAS THE 01:27 DENSEST POPULATION OF ALL OF INDIA. 01:29 YES. 01:30 UTTAR PRADESH. 01:31 UTTAR PRADESH HAS THE DENSEST POPULATION AND THE 01:33 THIRD RICHEST STATE IN THE COUNTRY. 01:36 AND YOU HAVE STORIES FROM THERE, STORIES TO TELL US. 01:40 ABSOLUTELY. 01:41 ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE WE WORK FOR GOSPEL OUTREACH IN 01:46 THAT AREA AND WE HAVE, WE RECENTLY WENT TO INDIA TO 01:51 CONDUCT MEETINGS FOR OUR GOSPEL WORKERS, GOSPEL 01:54 OUTREACH WORKERS. 01:57 HOW MANY ARE THERE JUST AS YOU'RE GOING THERE. 02:00 WELL I WORK WITH ABOUT CLOSE TO 268 OR 270 PEOPLE 02:07 THAT ARE WORKERS THERE. 02:08 AND THEY COME IN THE PLACE CALLED HAPUR ACADEMY, 02:14 SMALL ACADEMY THERE. 02:15 AND WE BRING THEM THERE AND NURTURE THEM, TALK TO 02:20 THEM, GET THEIR REPORTS, FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON 02:23 IN THEIR LIVES AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO OTHER 02:26 PEOPLE IN THEIR LIVES. 02:28 THAT'S A BUSY TIME WITH OVER 200 REPORTS. 02:30 VERY BUSY TIME YES. 02:31 BUT THIS TIME WE TOOK DR. GIBBS AND MRS. GIBBS 02:35 WITH US. 02:36 DR. GIBBS IS A GRADUATE OF ANDREWS UNIVERSITY AND 02:39 LOMA LINDA UNIVERSITY AND HE IS AN EXPERT NOW IN 02:44 DANIEL AND REVELATION YOU KNOW. 02:45 SO WE WENT TO GIVE THIS MESSAGE TO OUR WORKERS 02:46 BECAUSE THEY ASKED US THAT THEY WANT TO KNOW MORE 02:47 ABOUT DANIEL AND REVELATION. 02:48 YES. 02:49 SO DR. GIBBS SPENT FOUR DAYS OR FIVE DAYS WITH 02:58 THEM GIVING THEM MESSAGES. 03:00 MOST OF THESE WORKERS ARE MINIMUM, MINIMUM WAGE, NOT 03:06 EVEN MINIMUM WAGE. 03:08 BUT THEY ARE DEDICATED PEOPLE AND THEY HAVE NOT 03:12 BEEN TO MANY SEMINARIES. 03:16 IT'S ON-THE-JOB TRAINING JUST LIKE IN THE BOOK OF 03:19 ACTS. 03:20 YES. 03:21 THE HOLY SPIRIT TELLS THEM AND THEY SPOKE THE WORD OF 03:26 GOD AS THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. 03:29 AND THESE PEOPLE ARE VERY SINCERE. 03:32 THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN A, WE CALL IT A DHURRIE LIKE A 03:39 DHURRIE RUG, HAND WOVEN RUG ROLLED. 03:40 AND THEY ROLL IT UP AND CARRY IT LIKE A BACKPACK. 03:42 THEY ARE GIVEN A LITTLE CASSETTE WHICH HAS, IS 03:43 THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YES, WHICH HAS SONGS. 03:44 YES. 03:45 AND THEY PUT THE SONG WHEN THEY GO INTO A VILLAGE 04:02 THEY WILL PUT THE SONGS ON AND PEOPLE START GATHERING 04:06 TO LISTEN TO THE MUSIC. 04:07 OKAY. 04:08 AND THEN THEY START TEACHING THEM THE SONGS. 04:11 SO IT'S ON A ONE-TO-ONE BASIS THAT THEY SHARE WHAT 04:15 GOD HAS DONE IN THEIR LIVES. 04:17 AND MANY TIMES THE DEVIL HAS BEEN FOUND POSSESSED 04:22 BY THESE PEOPLE AND WHO HAS BEEN TROUBLING THEM 04:26 AND WHEN THESE WORKERS GO AND PRAY WITH THEM, YES, 04:29 THEY FIND RELIEF OF THE DEMONS LEAVING THEM AND 04:36 IMMEDIATE RELIEF FROM PAIN. 04:40 IT'S A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE THAN IN THE 04:41 FIRST WORLD ISN'T IT. 04:43 RIGHT. 04:44 BECAUSE THERE THE SPIRITS ARE SO PRESENT AND SO 04:47 POWERFUL. 04:48 YES. 04:49 WELL SPIRITS MAY BE PRESENT EVEN IN THE FIRST 04:52 WORLD ALSO, OH OF COURSE THEY ARE, BUT A LITTLE 04:53 MORE SOPHISTICATED WAY. 04:55 MORE SUBTLE? 04:56 BUT HERE IT'S ALL OPEN. 04:59 I MEAN THE SPIRIT JUST WORKS OPENLY BECAUSE 05:02 THAT'S ONE OF THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE PRINCE 05:05 OF DARKNESS YOU KNOW. 05:08 I BELIEVE IT. 05:10 BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE THERE CONFRONTING THIS DARKNESS. 05:14 RIGHT. 05:15 AND SEEING THE LIGHT COME IN. 05:16 EXACTLY AND THEY PRAISE THE LORD FOR THAT YOU 05:19 KNOW. 05:19 IT'S A VERY REAL THING THAT SPIRIT WORSHIP, 05:23 SPIRIT POSSESSION. 05:24 SPIRIT PRESENCE IS A VERY REAL THING IN THAT AREA. 05:29 IN NOVEMBER WE WERE AT A GATHERING WHERE OVER 05:35 THIRTY THOUSAND PEOPLE COME. 05:36 THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. 05:37 YES. 05:38 AND THAT'S HOW GOD'S WORK IS BEING REACHED TO THESE 05:42 PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ABOUT JESUS. 05:44 AND THE BIBLE WAS BEING READ AND ALL OF A SUDDEN A 05:52 BLOOD CURDLING SCREAM LOUD AS EVER, JUST GAVE ME 05:58 CHILLS, JUST WENT THROUGH YOUR BONES. 06:02 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE MINISTER RAN TO THE AREA 06:08 AND STARTED REBUKING THE DEMONS IN THE NAME OF 06:13 JESUS. 06:14 AND THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TOUCH THE PERSON FOR 06:21 SOME GOVERNMENT RULES AND REGULATIONS. 06:23 OKAY. 06:24 AND THEY FOLLOW THAT YOU KNOW, THEY KEEP ALL THAT. 06:26 BUT WHEN THERE IS POWER IN THE NAME OF JESUS. 06:31 OH YES. 06:32 WHERE THREE AND FOUR PEOPLE GET TOGETHER THERE 06:35 THE SPIRIT IS. 06:36 AND IMMEDIATELY THESE PEOPLE FALL DOWN. 06:38 AND THEY SOMETIMES FROTH FROM THE MOUTH, SOMETIMES 06:45 THEY PULL THEIR HAIR. 06:46 NOT A PRETTY PICTURE. 06:47 NOT A PRETTY PICTURE AT ALL. 06:48 AND THEN IMMEDIATELY THEY WILL ASK FOR WATER. 06:54 WHEN THEY WAKE UP? 06:55 YES, WHEN THE DEMON LEAVES THEM THE FIRST THING THEY 06:58 DO IS ASK FOR WATER. 06:59 IT'S LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN WRENCHED. 07:01 THIRSTY FOR A LONG TIME. 07:02 YES. 07:03 AND THEY ARE GIVEN WATER AND THEY SAY MY DEMON IS 07:07 GONE. 07:08 AND WHEN THIS HAPPENS IN A CHRISTIAN SETTING LIKE 07:13 THIS IS THIS UNUSUAL. 07:19 THEY ARE WORSHIPED AND THEY ARE KEPT. 07:20 THEY ARE KEPT AND WORSHIPED AND HONORED. 07:21 AND SO WHEN A PERSON IS POSSESSED BY ONE OF THEM 07:23 IS THAT CONSIDERED AN HONOR SOMETIMES? 07:24 FOR THEM YES. 07:25 BUT WHEN THEY ENTER INTO CHRISTIAN AREA AND 07:27 CHRISTIAN MEETINGS LIKE THE ONE WE WERE ATTENDING 07:38 NOW OF COURSE THE PRESENCE OF JESUS AND HIS ANGELS 07:44 THAT MAKES THEM VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. 07:46 OH YES. 07:47 YOU SEE THEY FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. 07:49 ALL OF A SUDDEN OUT OF NOWHERE THEY SCREAM 07:52 BECAUSE MAYBE THE ANGLE WAS STANDING CLOSE TO THE 07:57 PERSON YOU KNOW AND THEY CAN'T BEAR HIM. 08:00 AND SO WHEN THEY SCREAM THEN OUR PASTORS AND OUR 08:04 PEOPLE GO CLOSE TO THEM AND PRAY FOR THEM AND LET 08:07 THE SPIRIT GO OUT. 08:09 WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE WITNESSES TO THIS 08:12 MORE THAN ONCE PROBABLY. 08:13 OH MANY TIMES. 08:14 MORE THAN MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, TIMES. 08:18 FROM 1988 THROUGH 2011 I WAS THE PRESIDENT OF 08:25 ROORKEE ADVENTIST COLLEGE. 08:30 OKAY, THAT'S A BIG COLLEGE IN MANY WAYS. 08:32 IT IS NOW GETTING BIG BUT IT STARTED SMALL. 08:36 IT WAS AN ACADEMY THEN BECAME A JUNIOR COLLEGE 08:40 THEN COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND NOW IT IS A FULL-FLEDGED 08:44 COLLEGE YOU KNOW. 08:45 I HAVE TO STOP JUST TO PUT IN A PERSONAL NOTE IF I 08:48 MAY. 08:49 WHEN I WAS THERE IN INDIA ON A CLEAR, CLEAR DAY, OH 08:53 YES, NO WINTER HAZE, FROM WHERE MY SCHOOL WAS EVERY 08:59 ONCE IN AWHILE WE COULD CATCH THE REFLECTION OF 09:01 THE ROORKEE CANAL OFF IN THE HORIZON. 09:03 THAT'S FROM _______. 09:04 LIKE A SILVER STREAM. 09:06 YES. 09:07 AND SO THAT PICTURE, THAT WAS POINTED OUT AND SAY 09:11 THERE IT IS THE SEA. 09:12 SO THERE WAS WHERE THE SCHOOL WAS, VERY CLOSE 09:15 THAT. 09:15 EXACTLY. 09:16 IT IS BY THE BANK OF THE GANGES CANAL, THE LARGE 09:22 GANGES CANAL. 09:23 AND WHEN I WAS THE PRESIDENT THERE I WAS IN 09:27 TOUCH WITH THE UNIVERSITY. 09:29 IT WAS ANOTHER CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY, NOT AN 09:31 ADVENTIST UNIVERSITY. 09:31 OKAY. 09:32 ANOTHER CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY, A LARGE 09:33 UNIVERSITY IN THE "UP" UTTAR PRADESH AND THE VICE 09:35 CHANCELLOR OF THAT UNIVERSITY SOMEHOW CAME TO 09:37 KNOW ABOUT ME AND SO HE INVITED ME TO HIS 09:48 UNIVERSITY WHERE I WENT AND TALKED WITH HIM AND HE 09:50 ASKED ME IF I COULD BE ON HIS BOARD. 09:53 OH AMAZING. 09:53 YES. 09:55 AND SO I WAS ON HIS BOARD AND WE USED TO CHIT CHAT 09:58 QUITE A BIT. 09:59 THE CHANCELLOR WAS VERY FOND OF ME AND MY WIFE. 10:03 SO HE WAS A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN TOO. 10:05 HE WAS, HE WAS BUT ANOTHER DENOMINATION. 10:07 RIGHT. 10:09 AND THEN ONE TIME HE ASKED ME ABOUT SABBATH. 10:15 OKAY. 10:16 SO I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT SABBATH. 10:17 I GAVE HIM THE TEXTS FROM THE BIBLE WHY SABBATH IS 10:20 IMPORTANT AND WHY IT IS HOLY AND WHY IT SHOULD BE 10:23 OBSERVED AND KEPT. 10:24 AND THREE OR FOUR MONTHS DOWN THE LINE WHEN I WENT 10:30 TO ATTEND ANOTHER BOARD, MY WIFE WAS WITH ME, AND 10:34 HE SAID YOU KNOW DR. DASS, I FEEL LIKE BUILDING AN 10:40 UPPER ROOM ABOVE MY HOUSE WHERE I WANT TO SPEND 10:44 SATURDAY. 10:46 EVERY SATURDAY I WANT TO GO UP THERE AND SPEND ALL 10:48 OF MY SATURDAY MEDITATING AND PRAYING TO GOD. 10:52 I SAID EXCELLENT. 10:53 I SAID DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU ARE BEGINNING TO 10:56 BELIEVE IN SABBATH? 10:58 IT SOUNDS LIKE HE MUST OF. 10:59 YES. 11:00 HE SAID YOU KNOW IT CONVICTS ME, I FEEL I MUST 11:02 OBSERVE IT AND I MUST WORSHIP HIM ON SATURDAY. 11:10 WOW. 11:10 SO I SAID MORE POWER TO YOU. 11:12 SO WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO START BUILDING THIS UPPER 11:14 ROOM? 11:15 AND MY WIFE TOOK OUT SOME MONEY AND IMMEDIATELY GAVE 11:17 HIM MY CONTRIBUTION TO IT YOU KNOW. 11:21 THE INTERESTING PART IS THAT HE CLOSES THE 11:24 UNIVERSITY ON THE SABBATH NOW. 11:27 AND THE PEOPLE COME AND THEY GREET EACH OTHER 11:30 SHABBAT SHALOM. 11:31 OH MY. 11:32 AND ON SUNDAY THEY COME TO WORSHIP BECAUSE THAT'S THE 11:38 REGULATION OF THE THING. 11:40 THEY COME AND THEY GREET EACH OTHER IN THE 11:45 TRADITIONAL WAY SHALOM. 11:47 OH INTERESTING. 11:49 SO IN THIS CAMPUS AND ITS OUTREACH THERE IS AN 11:54 ADVENTIST DAY AND THERE IS ANOTHER DAY. 11:58 THEY ARE IN LOVE WITH GOD THERE IT SOUNDS LIKE. 11:59 YES. 12:00 THEY ARE IN LOVE WITH GOD. 12:01 HE NOW CLOSES THE ENTIRE UNIVERSITY ON SABBATH. 12:06 NO CLASSES. 12:06 NO CLASSES. 12:07 WELL I BET THAT WAS TRADITION. 12:08 OH HE HAD TO FIGHT IT. 12:10 HE FOUGHT IT AND HE WON AND HE IS NOW MAKING IT 12:15 SORT OF MANDATORY FOR ALL THE STAFF AND STUDENTS TO 12:18 COME TO CHURCH ON SATURDAY MORNING. 12:23 SO THERE IS CHURCH BETWEEN ELEVEN TO ONE O'CLOCK ON 12:27 BOTH DAY. 12:28 YES. 12:29 SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. 12:31 AND PEOPLE DON'T MIND. 12:32 THEY COME, THEY ENJOY AND WHEN THEY COME ON 12:34 SATURDAYS THEY SAY SHABBAT SHALOM. 12:38 ON SUNDAY, SHALOM. 12:39 THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT THEY HAVE HOLY 12:42 COMMUNION ON FRIDAY NIGHT. 12:45 FRIDAY NIGHT? 12:46 FRIDAY NIGHT AND THEY SERVE POMEGRANATE JUICE 12:52 WHICH IS RED IN COLOR. 12:55 WELL I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT HERE AND JUST TELL 13:01 THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING, AREN'T YOU AMAZED BY 13:04 STORIES LIKE THIS. 13:05 THIS IS THE KIND OF ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH GOD 13:09 IS WORKING THROUGH GOSPEL OUTREACH AND IT'S NOT JUST 13:13 THIS PARTICULAR STORY OF WHEN YOU WERE PRESIDENT 13:16 AND YOU WERE WORKING WITH ANOTHER PRESIDENT, IT 13:18 CONTINUES ON, IT CONTINUES. 13:21 AND I'M NOT POSITIVE BUT I THINK WE NEED A MOMENT 13:26 HERE JUST TO REMIND YOU THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO 13:31 PARTICIPATE. 13:32 ON YOUR SCREEN YOU WILL SEE THE ADDRESSES BOTH 13:34 HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND IN CANADA. 13:36 YOU WILL SEE TELEPHONE NUMBERS, WEBSITES. 13:40 ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN HELP YOU BE IN CONTACT 13:43 WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH IF GOD IS MOVING YOU TO MAKE 13:47 AN INVESTMENT HERE. 13:48 AMEN. 13:51 IS THERE ANY ROOM FOR INVESTMENT, OH SURE, OR IS 13:53 EVERYTHING PAID OFF? 13:54 NO, NO. 13:55 ALWAYS. 13:56 THE REASON THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULATED AREA 14:01 AMONG THE POOREST AREAS IS MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE 14:06 FARMERS. 14:07 OKAY SO IT'S VERY AGRICULTURAL. 14:10 YES. 14:11 AND LIKE THE BOOK OF ACTS THESE PEOPLE BRING THEIR 14:14 FIRST FRUIT OF THEIR PRODUCE AND AS THEY ENTER 14:21 THERE IS A BIG HUGE BOX IN WHICH THEY PUT MONEY AND 14:25 THEY PUT FRUIT AND VEGETABLES, LENTILS, RICE. 14:31 SOME HAVE JUST A TINY LITTLE PLASTIC BAG. 14:34 SOME HAVE A BIG BAG. 14:35 NO BODY HAS ANY LIMIT. 14:41 AND THEN THAT IS COOKED THE FOLLOWING WEEK AND 14:45 SERVED AS LUNCH. 14:47 ISN'T THAT INTERESTING. 14:49 RECENTLY WHEN I WAS PREPARING TO GO TO CONDUCT 14:52 OUR GOSPEL OUTREACH MEETINGS IN HAPUR I HAD 14:56 INVITED DR. GIBBS TO GO WITH US. 14:59 HE IS A GRADUATE OF ANDREWS UNIVERSITY AND 15:03 LOMA LINDA. 15:04 HE AND HIS WIFE CAME WITH US TO PRESENT DANIEL AND 15:09 REVELATION SEMINARS YOU KNOW. 15:12 WHO WAS YOUR AUDIENCE? 15:13 OUR FIRST AUDIENCE WAS SPICER COLLEGE YOU KNOW. 15:16 OKAY. 15:17 OUR SECOND AUDIENCE WAS OUR WORKERS 300 OF THEM 15:22 YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE THIRD I WASN'T PLANNING ON 15:27 GOING THERE BUT I JUST HAPPENED TO CALL THE VICE 15:29 CHANCELLOR OF THIS CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY. 15:31 I FOUND COMING TO INDIA I'D LIKE TO SAY HELLO TO 15:35 YOU IF IT'S POSSIBLE. 15:36 I MEAN HE ASKED ME WHY I WAS COMING AND I EXPLAINED 15:41 TO HIM I'M BRINGING A GENTLEMAN WHO IS GOING TO 15:43 GIVE SEMINAR ON DANIEL AND REVELATION TO OUR GOSPEL 15:47 OUTREACH WORKERS. 15:49 OH HE SAID ANY POSSIBILITY YOU CAN BRING HIM TO MY 15:52 CAMPUS AND LET HIM TALK TO MY SEMINARIANS? 15:56 SO I SAID WE HAVE NO PROBLEM BUT I SAID I'LL 16:01 ASK HIM, I'M SURE HE WON'T MIND. 16:03 SO HE SAID I'LL TAKE CARE OF YOUR STAY OVER HERE BUT 16:07 COME PLEASE. 16:08 AND AT THAT TIME HE ONLY WAS INTERESTED FOR 16:14 DR. GIBBS TO PRESENT THIS DANIEL AND REVELATION 16:18 SEMINAR TO HIS SEMINARIANS. 16:20 AND WE WENT THERE TO DO THAT BUT THEN WHEN WE 16:23 LANDED ON THE CAMPUS HE SAID YOU KNOW I CONDUCT, 16:29 JESUS IN CONTROL OR HOW DO YOU SAY THAT IN ENGLISH, 16:32 IT'S THE PALACE OF JESUS. 16:35 HE SAID I CONDUCT THE PALACE OF JESUS HERE AND 16:38 THE PEOPLE COME FROM OUTSIDE. 16:40 THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIANS THEY COME FROM OUTSIDE AND 16:42 THEY ARE TENDERS. 16:43 I SAID HOW MANY PEOPLE COME? 16:45 HE SAID WE STARTED WITH ABOUT FIVE OR SIX HUNDRED 16:49 A FEW YEARS AGO BUT TODAY THERE ARE ANYWHERE FROM 16:52 25,000 TO 30,000 PEOPLE COME EVERY SATURDAY AND 16:57 SUNDAY. 16:58 OH MY. 16:58 I SAID IS THAT RIGHT. 17:00 AND DO YOU WANT HIM TO TALK TO THESE PEOPLE ALSO? 17:03 HE SAID YES WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF YOU WILL 17:05 TALK TO THEM ALSO. 17:06 I SAID OKAY, WE'LL COME. 17:08 THEN I CALLED UP MY REGIONAL DIRECTOR FROM 17:11 GOSPEL OUTREACH THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WERE GOING TO 17:15 DO THERE. 17:16 DO YOU WANT TO BRING YOUR GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS 17:20 AND GET A READY-MADE CHURCH FROM THIS PLACE? 17:24 AMAZING. 17:26 I SAID BECAUSE MY STAFF HAS TOLD ME HE SAID WE 17:30 AREN'T CONVERTING THEM, THEY ARE BAPTIZING THEM 17:32 AND WHEREVER THEY WANT TO GO AND ATTEND A CHURCH WE 17:36 HAVE NO OBJECTION. 17:38 SO I SAID THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE BRING YOUR 17:41 WORKERS. 17:42 SO THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR CAME THERE AND SIX OF HIS 17:46 WORKERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND THE UNIVERSITY TOOK 17:49 CARE OF ALL OF US FOR FOOD AND STAY AND WE WERE THERE 17:52 FOR FIVE DAYS. 17:55 AND RIGHT AFTER THE MEETINGS WERE OVER 17:57 SATURDAY THEY CAME. 17:59 WHEN WE ATTENDED THE SATURDAY MEETING EVERYONE 18:03 WAS GREETING EVERYBODY, SHABBAT SHALOM, SHABBAT 18:06 SHALOM, SHABBAT SHALOM. 18:09 HOW SURPRISED. 18:10 I SAID SHABBAT SHALOM, THIS IS JEWISH BUT IT 18:13 SOUNDS LIKE ADVENTISTS. 18:14 YES. 18:15 AND I KNEW THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT TO THE 18:18 GENTLEMAN I MEAN TO THE PRESIDENT LONG TIME AGO 18:22 ABOUT SABBATH AND ALL THAT. 18:24 THEN SUNDAY CAME AND WE ATTENDED THE SUNDAY 18:27 MEETING AND THERE EVERYBODY WAS SAYING 18:29 SALAAM, SALAAM. 18:30 I TELL YOU THAT'S GREAT. 18:33 SO DR. GIBBS GOT TO PREACH ON SATURDAY TO SOME 18:37 12,000. 18:38 SUNDAY SOME 20 MORE THOUSAND PEOPLE. 18:40 THE CHURCH WAS FULL AND OUR GOSPEL OUTREACH 18:46 WORKERS THAT CAME THERE THEY PICKED UP EACH PEOPLE 18:49 AND NOW THEY HAVE 160 CHURCH MEMBERSHIP THERE IN 18:55 ALLAHABAD TAKEN FROM THIS MEETING. 18:58 IT'S AN AMAZING THING TO THINK THAT YOU HAVE THESE 19:06 RELATIONSHIPS THAT HAVE FORMED OVER THE YEARS AND 19:09 NOW YOU'RE WORKING FOR GOSPEL OUTREACH, EXACTLY, 19:12 SO THAT, I'M REAPING THOSE, YES. 19:14 IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE GOD'S MAN FOR THIS HOUR TO 19:17 CONTINUE TO PULL IN THESE WORKERS, TO CONTINUE TO 19:20 ENCOURAGE THEM AND TO SEE WHAT GOD IS DOING. 19:22 BECAUSE GOD IS NOT LIMITED JUST TO OUR NARROW THING 19:32 IS HE. 19:33 EXACTLY. 19:34 WHAT IS IT PAUL SAID THAT SOME SOW AND OTHERS REAP. 19:37 REAP YES. 19:37 YOU KNOW IT'S CONSTANTLY LIKE THAT. 19:39 AND YOU MENTIONED THAT THE BOOK OF ACTS. 19:41 YES AND OH YOU SEE THAT, IT'S SO HEART WARMING TO 19:45 SEE THESE VERY POOR POOR PEOPLE COME WITH A TINY 19:50 LITTLE BAG, PLASTIC BAG WITH WHATEVER IS IN THERE 19:56 AS AN OFFERING. 19:58 AND YOU'RE REMINDED OF THE WIDOW'S MITE. 20:01 YES. 20:03 AND THEN YOU'RE REMINDED OF THE STORIES OF HOW THE 20:07 DEMONIC POWERS JUST CAME OUT AND LEFT THESE PEOPLE 20:11 FREE OF PAIN AND FREE OF TORTURE AND THAT THESE 20:17 PEOPLE COME, CLOSE TO 250 PEOPLE TESTIFIED. 20:23 THEY STOOD IN A LINE. 20:24 THEY WERE ASKED FIVE QUESTIONS. 20:27 WHAT IS YOUR NAME, WHERE HAVE YOU COME FROM, WHAT 20:31 IS YOUR PROBLEM AND WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU IF YOU 20:37 PRAYED, PRAYED IN THE NAME OF JESUS. 20:40 THEN THEY ASKED THE PEOPLE TO CLAP AND GLORIFY GOD. 20:47 EXACTLY. 20:48 IN THE SAME AREA THE SAME GENTLEMAN WHO IS IN CHARGE 20:53 OF THE REGION THERE, HE WAS TELLING ME THAT HE HAD 20:58 DECIDED TO WORK WITH THE BRAHMINS AND PUNDITS, NOT 21:03 WITH JUST ORDINARY PEOPLE IN THIS RELIGIOUS CITY OF 21:07 HINDUS, IN THE CENTER OF THE RELIGIOUS CITY OF 21:10 HINDUS. 21:11 OKAY. 21:12 AND HE SAID HE GOES AND HE TALKS TO THE PUNDITS, TO 21:16 THE PRIESTS DIRECTLY AND HE HAS INFLUENCED ABOUT 21:20 EIGHT OR TEN OF THEM SO MUCH THAT THEY HAVE 21:23 ALLOWED HIM, IF HE WANTS, HE CAN TAKE THE BASEMENT 21:28 OF THE TEMPLE AND CONDUCT HIS MEETINGS WITH HIS 21:31 CHURCH THERE. 21:33 NOW THAT IS UNUSUAL. 21:34 YES, IT IS. 21:36 BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER HIM. 21:37 I'M STILL RESEARCHING THAT. 21:39 ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GO AND MEET IN THE TEMPLE OR NOT? 21:43 YES, WHY NOT. 21:45 YOU KNOW THE ISSUE THAT YOU JUST SAID "WHY NOT" 21:50 WOULD BE TO SOMEBODY ELSE A HORROR. 21:53 THE IDEA THAT GOD WOULD INVADE A PAGAN PLACE. 22:00 RIGHT, OKAY. 22:00 HE DID ALL THE TIME IN THE BIBLE. 22:03 HE DID. 22:04 I'M SURE FOR SOME IT WILL COME BACK TO THE ISSUE OF 22:09 DO I EAT THIS MEAT OR NOT YOU KNOW. 22:11 OF COURSE. 22:12 EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN SENSIBILITIES BUT THE 22:17 THOUGHT THAT THESE PRIESTS WOULD SAY WE HAVE FOUND 22:22 YOU TO BE TRUSTWORTHY THAT YOU WILL NOT, I DON'T KNOW 22:27 WHAT THEY ARE THINKING BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IS AT 22:31 ODDS WITH POLYTHEISM AND YET THEY ARE HEARING ABOUT 22:37 A GOD THAT DOESN'T SCARE THEM. 22:40 THAT'S AMAZING. 22:41 SATAN HAS 200 NAMES, DIFFERENT NAMES OF THE 22:47 DEITIES IN INDIA. 22:48 I'M SURE YOU'RE RIGHT. 22:50 TWO HUNDRED NAMES FOR DIFFERENT DEITIES EACH ONE 22:53 HAS THEIR OWN ILLUSTRATION. 22:55 THE THING THAT THIS GENTLEMAN HAS BECOME SO 22:59 BRAVE AND SO DARING WITH THE POWER OF JESUS THAT IS 23:04 IN HIM HE SAID I'M GOING TO CONVERT THIS CITY. 23:09 GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS WILL COME AND CONVERT THIS 23:12 WHOLE CITY HE SAID. 23:14 I SAID HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT? 23:16 HE SAID I'VE ALREADY INFLUENCED THESE PUNDITS. 23:18 THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE ME THE TEMPLE. 23:20 I'M GOING TO GO TO THE OTHER PUNDITS SO MUCH SO 23:23 FROM ANOTHER HINDU CITY THEY CALLED THE PUNDITS, 23:30 OTHER PUNDITS CALLED WHO HE WAS WORKING WITH AND 23:34 SAID SEND THESE PUNDITS FROM HERE TO TELL US HOW 23:37 TO DO IT. 23:38 OH. 23:39 YOU ARE DESCRIBING A BREAKTHROUGH FOR THE 23:45 GOSPEL, YES, THAT IS NOT KNOWN. 23:49 EXACTLY. 23:49 THIS IS A NEW THING, A NEW DAY. 23:51 WE'VE HAD, I'VE HEARD THE STORIES OF THOSE WHO HAVE 23:56 WORKED WITH WHAT ARE CONSIDERED THE LOWER CASTE 24:00 BUT THIS BREAKTHROUGH REACHING UP INTO UPPER IS 24:04 VERY UNUSUAL. 24:04 THOSE ARE BARRIERS THAT WERE CREATED BY SATAN 24:07 YEARS AND CENTURIES, MILLENNIA AGO. 24:10 TO BREAK THROUGH THAT. 24:12 AND MICHAEL IS BREAKING THEM DOWN. 24:13 GOD IS WORKING. 24:14 IF YOU BREAK THROUGH THE LEADERSHIP THEN THE 24:15 FOLLOWERS COME AUTOMATICALLY. 24:16 THEY LISTEN TO THE LEADER AND THERE ARE MANY, MANY, 24:19 MANY, MANY GOOD PEOPLE AMONG THE HINDUS. 24:24 THEY ARE VERY GOD FEARING SINCERE. 24:30 AND THEY WANT TO DO GOOD. 24:32 YES. 24:33 THE REASON BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN REINCARNATION. 24:36 YES. 24:37 SO THEY WANT TO EARN BROWNIE POINTS FOR THE 24:39 NEXT LIFE AND WHEN THEY REALIZE THAT PUTTING THEIR 24:45 FAITH IN JESUS RATHER THAN HAVE TO MAKE SACRIFICE AND 24:49 IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO GET GOOD THINGS FROM THE LORD, 24:56 THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO IT. 24:58 IT'S AMAZING. 24:59 THOSE OF US WHO HAVEN'T LIVED WITH THAT CULTURE 25:02 PROBABLY DON'T EVEN BEGIN TO GRASP IT, BUT FOR THOSE 25:08 WHO ARE WATCHING TODAY I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU 25:14 RECOGNIZING YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT A MIRACLE OF GOD. 25:17 ABSOLUTELY. 25:18 YOU ARE HEARING ABOUT THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT 25:21 THAT I HAVE NOT WITNESSED THIS BUT THEY HAVE. 25:27 THEY'RE TELLING IT TO YOU IN HOPES THAT YOU WILL 25:30 BECOME PARTNERS IN THIS. 25:33 YES IT TAKES PLACE OVER THERE, BUT REMEMBER YOU 25:37 CAN CONTRIBUTE AND I KEEP HOPING OF COURSE THAT SOME 25:42 OF YOU WHO ARE LISTENING AND INVESTING IN THIS OVER 25:45 THERE, WE WILL BEGIN TO HEAR YOUR STORIES ABOUT 25:49 HOW GOD IS WORKING IN YOUR LIFE. 25:51 YES. 25:52 BECAUSE GOD IS NOT LIMITED TO WORK IN INDIA. 25:54 NO. 25:55 HE WORKS RIGHT HERE IN NORTH AMERICA. 25:58 YES. 25:59 ALL OVER THE WORD. 26:00 AND THIS IS BEING A PART OF AN ADVENTURE, THIS IS A 26:03 FAMILY OF FAITH. 26:05 DO NOT STOP LOOKING FOR GOD AND ACTION. 26:09 PUT THE MONEY WHERE HE ASKS YOU TO. 26:12 HE WILL MULTIPLY IT. 26:13 YOU MAY ONLY HAVE FISH AND LOAVES BUT IF YOU PUT IT 26:17 IN JESUS' HANDS IT WILL BE MULTIPLIED AND IT WILL 26:20 FEED MANY. 26:21 AMEN. 26:22 GOD BLESS YOU. 26:23 THANK YOU SO MUCH ED AND MARCIE. 26:26 WHAT A PRIVILEGE TO GET TO BE WITH YOU FOR A FEW 26:29 MOMENTS THIS WONDERFUL DAY. 26:31 THANK YOU. 26:32 GOD BLESS YOU AS YOU MOVE ON AND BACK THERE TO WORK 26:34 AGAIN. 26:35 THANK YOU. 26:44 [CLOSING MUSIC] |
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