Participants: Dick Duerksen (Host), Manzoor Massey
Series Code: AIM
Program Code: AIM000674A
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00:14 HELLO. 00:16 I'M DICK DUERKSEN AND WELCOME TO GOSPEL OUTREACH'S PROGRAM 00:18 ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS. 00:21 MY GUEST TODAY IS MANZOOR MASSEY. 00:24 NOW YOU HAVE DESIGNED A PROGRAM THAT YOU CALL SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIAL 00:30 IDOCIOUS FOR GOD. 00:31 (LAUGHING) ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. 00:34 THIS IS GOING TO BE LIFE CHANGING. 00:35 ANYBODY WHO GETS INVOLVED IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE BEFORE. 00:39 "ON YOUR FEET FOR JESUS." 00:41 ABSOLUTELY. 00:42 I AM SO EXCITED. 00:44 IF THERE'S EVER ANY PROGRAM THAT I HAVE EVER GOT INVOLVED WITH THIS IS 00:49 IT. 00:50 THIS IS IT. 00:51 NOW, WAIT A MINUTE. 00:53 YOU HAVE JUST BEEN TELLING ME AS WE DID ANOTHER INTERVIEW THAT WORKING 00:57 WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH AND HELPING TRAIN GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS WAS THE 01:02 MOST EXCITING THING YOU HAD EVER DONE. 01:03 THIS RELATES TO THAT. 01:04 OKAY, OKAY. 01:06 SO YOU'RE NOT STARTING A NEW A WHOLE NEW EXPERIENCE HERE. 01:08 IT'S A NEW WAY OF DOING WHAT WE DO. 01:13 I'M READY TO LISTEN. 01:15 SO TELL ME WHAT "ON YOUR FEET FOR JESUS" MEANS. 01:18 "ON YOUR FEET FOR JESUS" THE BIRTH OF THIS GOES WAY BACK WHEN I GRADUATED FROM 01:26 MY COLLEGE AND BECAME A PASTOR. 01:29 YOU CAN STILL REMEMBER THAT FAR BACK? 01:30 I THINK I HAVE FAINT MEMORIES. 01:34 (LAUGHING) OKAY SO THAT WAS WHEN IT STARTED. 01:36 AND IT WAS MY FIRST MONTH IN MINISTRY AND MY FATHER CALLED ME AND HE SAID 01:41 LET'S GO FOR A WALK. 01:43 HE TOOK ME TO THE FARM AND HE SAID IF SOMEONE SAVED YOUR LIFE AND THEN ANOTHER 01:49 PERSON COMES AND ASKS YOU WHO SAVED YOUR LIFE WOULD YOU CHARGE THAT PERSON 01:54 BEFORE YOU TELL THEM. 01:55 HUM. 01:59 AND I SAID THAT'S RIDICULOUS. 02:01 WHY WOULD I CHARGE. 02:02 HE SAID BUT YOU DO. 02:05 YOU SHOULD GET OFF THE PAYROLL. 02:07 YOU SHOULD NOT BE PAID AS A PASTOR. 02:10 YOU SHOULD BE A LAY PERSON ON YOUR FEET TO TALK ABOUT JESUS. 02:19 AND HE WAS A PRACTICING WITNESS HIMSELF. 02:22 HE WAS A FARMER. 02:23 BUT NOT A PASTOR. 02:24 NO NOT A PASTOR. 02:26 OKAY. 02:27 A PRACTICING BELIEVER WHO HAD BECOME A DISCIPLE AND HE RAISED 13 CHURCHES. 02:32 MY LANDS. 02:33 AND SO HE TOLD ME, HE SAID, THIS IS YOUR CHALLENGE. 02:36 GET OFF THE PAYROLL. 02:37 SO SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER AWHILE I RESIGNED AND GOT INTO SCHOOL, GOT AN 02:46 EDUCATION, MORE EDUCATION AND BECAME A SELF-SUPPORTING WITNESS 02:51 FOR GOD. 02:52 AND I'VE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE 1974. 02:55 AND SO WITH THE ECONOMIC CLIMATE IN AMERICA CHANGING AND WITH THE 03:00 ECONOMIC CLIMATE IN INDIA CHANGING, YES, GOD REALLY PUT THIS BURDEN ON ME, I 03:07 SHOULDN'T SAY BURDEN, THIS PRIVILEGE ON ME THAT I SHOULD TALK TO MY CHURCH 03:12 IN INDIA THAT THEY SHOULD BE ON THEIR FEET AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE DEPENDING ON 03:18 FOREIGN ASSISTANCE. 03:20 AND SO THIS "ON YOUR FEET FOR JESUS" IS A CAMPAIGN THAT IS LAUNCHED TO HELP 03:28 EVERY MEMBER TRAINED TO BECOME A DISCIPLE. 03:32 SO THEY NEED TO BE ON THEIR FEET TO WITNESS FOR JESUS. 03:35 THINK ABOUT 1.2 BILLION PEOPLE IN INDIA AND WE HAVE ONLY 1.2 MILLION 03:43 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS. 03:46 LESS THAN THREE PERCENT CHRISTIANS. 03:49 SO WE'VE BEEN AS A CHURCH, WE'VE BEEN IN INDIA FOR 118 YEARS AND TO HAVE 1.2 03:54 MILLION MEMBERS IS GOOD, WELL IT'S GOOD THAT WE HAVE MADE SOME INROADS BUT 03:56 IT IS DISASTROUS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THAT HAS BEEN 03:58 MADE. 03:59 AND THEN TO HAVE ONLY THIS MANY, THIS KIND OF RESULT. 04:01 AND THE REASON HAS BEEN WE HAVE NOT GONE THE STEP FURTHER TO IMPLEMENT THE 04:07 METHODS OF JESUS AND THE STRATEGY THAT THE EARLY CHURCH WAS USING. 04:27 IN EARLY CHURCH THEY HAD NO MEMBERS. 04:29 THERE WERE BELIEVERS AND DISCIPLES. 04:30 RIGHT. 04:31 AND SO I WANT MY CHURCH IN INDIA TO BE TRAINING IT'S MEMBERS TO BECOME 04:33 DISCIPLES. 04:33 THAT'S THE FIRST THING. 04:35 AND THE SECOND PART IS THE CHURCH IN INDIA NEEDS TO BECOME SELF SUPPORTING. 04:36 AND WHEN I SAY SELF SUPPORTING THAT MEANS THAT THE WORKERS THAT WE 04:38 CURRENTLY HAVE, GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS, THEY SHOULD TAKE OVER THESE 04:40 WORKERS SO THAT OUR BUDGET CAN BE PUT BEHIND WORKERS WHO CAN MOVE INTO NEW 05:06 TERRITORIES. 05:07 NOT TO THE SAME VILLAGES BUT THEY COULD HAVE OTHER VILLAGES THAT THEY SHOULD 05:12 BE ADOPTING. 05:13 BECAUSE WE GOT 1.2 BILLION PEOPLE TO REACH. 05:16 AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TIME. 05:17 LET'S GET ON THE ROAD. 05:19 THAT'S RIGHT. 05:20 WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME. 05:21 AND I THINK THIS WILL BE PRACTICING HOW WE'RE GOING TO LIVE IN HEAVEN. 05:26 IT'S A SHARING PRAISING. 05:29 AND SO AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE OTHER PROGRAM THE METHOD OF JESUS IS 05:34 MINGLE WITH PEOPLE, MAKE FRIENDS, SHARE JESUS, MEET THEIR NEEDS AND SHARE 05:40 JESUS. 05:41 AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE METHOD TO BRING ABOUT LASTING 05:47 CHANGES TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL IN SOUTHERN ASIA DIVISION PARTICULARLY IN 05:51 INDIA. 05:53 HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM HAVING PASTORS AND CONGREGATIONS? 05:55 WELL YOU CAN HAVE PASTORS AND CONGREGATIONS BUT IF YOU ARE PREACHING TO THE 06:01 SAME CHOIR OVER AND OVER AND OVER YOU ARE NOT SPREADING THE GOSPEL. 06:05 OKAY. 06:06 SO WE NEED TO REACH OUT. 06:10 REMEMBER JESUS SAID "GO." 06:13 THAT ONE WORD GO MEANS WE GOT TO MOVE ON. 06:18 YOU CAN'T GO AND STAY AT HOME. 06:21 YOU CAN'T PROGRESS UNTIL YOU GO SOMEWHERE. 06:23 YOU CAN'T GO AND STAY IN THE SAME PEW EVERY SABBATH. 06:26 THAT'S RIGHT, EXACTLY. 06:28 YOU CANNOT AND I THINK THIS MAY BE WORLD-WIDE REVOLUTION THAT WE NEED 06:34 WITHIN OUR OWN CHURCH AT LARGE. 06:38 SO TELL ME. 06:40 YOU COME TO MY CHURCH NEXT SABBATH IN ANDHRA PRADESH AND YOU TELL ME THAT YOU 06:43 WANT ME TO JOIN "ON YOUR FEET FOR JESUS." 06:46 ABSOLUTELY. 06:47 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME TO DO? 06:48 I WILL BE ASKING YOU NO. 06:50 1 TO LOOK AT YOUR FAMILY TREE. 06:54 WITHIN YOUR FAMILY THERE MAY BE MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT ACCEPTED JESUS. 06:59 NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO REACH HINDUS AND MUSLIMS AND OTHER BROTHERS 07:04 AND SISTERS BUT IF MY OWN FAMILY MEMBERS STILL DON'T KNOW JESUS THAT WOULD PART 07:09 OF THAT. 07:10 OKAY. 07:11 AND THEN I WANT TO M AKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IN MY VILLAGE IS UNDERSTOOD AS 07:16 PART OF GOD'S FAMILY. 07:18 GOD'S FAMILY IS NOT MADE UP JUST OF SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, OR JUST A FEW 07:23 CHRISTIANS. 07:24 THEY ARE MADE UP OF EVERYBODY IN THAT VILLAGE. 07:27 SO OUR PASTORS WILL TAKE THE IDEA, TAKE THE CONCEPT THAT THE ENTIRE VILLAGE IS 07:33 THEIR PARISH. 07:34 AND AS A CHURCH WE WILL REALIZE THAT THE ENTIRE POPULATION IN INDIA IS 07:42 GOD'S FAMILY. 07:43 WE'VE GOT TO REACH THIS FAMILY. 07:45 I'M JUST TRYING TO TRANSLATE THAT INTO MY LITTLE COMMUNITY AROUND 07:48 PORTLAND. 07:50 I LIVE IN AN AREA WHERE THERE ARE 120 HOUSES. 07:53 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOMES ARE IN THOSE HOUSES BECAUSE SEVERAL OF THEM 07:57 THEY HAVE MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO COME AND GO. 07:59 HOW WOULD I IMPLEMENT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN MY LITTLE 120 HOUSE. 08:07 I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED AND I WOULD GIVE YOU VERY SPECIFIC STRATEGY THAT I 08:12 WILL BE PROMOTING BOTH IN INDIA AND I HAVE DONE SOME TRAINING IN CENTRAL 08:16 CALIFORNIA WITHIN IN OUR OWN ADVENTIST CIRCLES. 08:19 AND IF YOU HAVE 100 MEMBERS DIVIDE THEM INTO CELLS OF SIX. 08:25 OKAY. 08:27 AND CELLS OF SIX THEY MEET EVERY WEEK, ONCE A WEEK FOR AN HOUR. 08:31 THEY HAVE SOUP AND BREAD AND THEY ADOPT ONE FAMILY FROM WITHIN THE CHURCH, 08:38 ONE FAMILY FROM OUTSIDE THE CHURCH AND TOGETHER THE SIX PEOPLE GET TO KNOW 08:44 THE TWO FAMILIES AND THEIR NEEDS. 08:46 THEY MINGLE WITH THEM, FIND OUT THEIR NEEDS AND THEY MEET THOSE NEEDS. 08:51 THEY DO THAT FOR SIX MONTHS CONSISTENTLY. 08:54 WITH THE SAME TWO FAMILIES? 08:55 WITH THE SAME TWO FAMILIES. 08:57 OKAY. 08:59 IF YOU HAVE A GROUP OF 16 YOU HAVE 32 FAMILIES BEING SERVED. 09:04 THAT'S TRUE. 09:05 THE FAMILY INSIDE IS GOING TO KNOW MY CHURCH CARE ABOUT ME. 09:08 WE WILL NEVER HAVE ATTRITION WITHIN THE CHURCH BECAUSE WE ARE 09:12 GOING TO HAVE THEM INVOLVED. 09:14 WE ARE GOING TO GET THEM INVOLVED, WE'RE GOING TO CARE FOR THEM. 09:18 THEY CAN'T SAY NOBODY CARE ABOUT THEM. 09:19 MANY PEOPLE LEAVE BECAUSE THEY THINK NOBODY CARES ABOUT THEM. 09:23 OR BECAUSE THEY COME TO THE CHURCH EVERY SABBATH AND NOBODY EVEN SAYS 09:26 HELLO. 09:26 NOBODY SAYS HELLO. 09:28 AND THE FAMILY THAT'S OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY FOR JESUS. 09:33 THEY ARE HUNGRY FOR JESUS. 09:35 AND THE BEST WAY IS TO SHOW THEM THE METHOD OF JESUS. 09:38 MINGLE WITH THEM, KNOW THEIR NEEDS, MEET THOSE NEEDS. 09:43 THEY'RE GOING TO HANG OUT WITH YOU. 09:44 IN SIX MONTHS THEY WILL BE WORSHIPPING WITH YOU. 09:47 THIS IS THE WAY YOU COULD DOUBLE EVERY CHURCH IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO 09:51 DO. 09:52 YOU CAN DOUBLE YOUR CHURCH FELLOWSHIP EVERY YEAR. 09:55 THIS IS EARTH CHANGING BECAUSE IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT. 10:00 IT IS VERY DIFFERENT AND IT MEANS GOT TO BECOME DISCIPLES. 10:06 NOW WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY DISCIPLES, HELP ME WITH THAT WORD THEN. 10:08 A MEMBER GOES TO CHURCH, LISTENS, COMES HOME AND SLEEPS. 10:14 DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 10:16 THAT'S A MEMBER, JUST A MEMBER. 10:18 ALRIGHT. 10:18 CARD-CARRYING MEMBER. 10:20 THEN YOU HAVE A BELIEVER. 10:22 BELIEVER TAKES THE SAME WORD AND BEGINS TO LIVE AND ONCE YOU START LIVING 10:28 YOU CAN'T HELP BUT GRADUATE TO BECOMING A DISCIPLE. 10:31 DISCIPLE TAKES THE WORD AND RUNS WITH IT. 10:34 AND THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS TO BE "ON YOUR FEET FOR JESUS." 10:36 ON YOUR FEET FOR JESUS. 10:38 AND MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT WALKING, THEY'RE RUNNING. 10:42 I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE CHURCH AT LARGE THEY HAVE 10:46 NOT LEARNED THE ART OF BEING ON THEIR FEET FOR JESUS. 10:48 NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INDIA. 10:49 YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE UNITED STATES OR RUSSIA. 10:54 I'M ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE WORLD CHURCH AT LARGE IN ALL DENOMINATIONS NOT 11:02 JUST IN OUR CHURCH. 11:03 I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. 11:04 BUT YOU LOOK AT, WE HAVE 7.2 BILLION PEOPLE. 11:08 WHAT IS THE POPULATION OF THE ADVENTIST POPULATION FOR EXAMPLE. 11:12 IT'S 19.2 MILLION. 11:15 AND I'M NOT SURE THAT IF WE WERE TO TAKE HALF OF THOSE PEOPLE AND THEY 11:21 WOULD BECOME DISCIPLES AND EVERYONE TOUCHED JUST FIVE MORE PEOPLE IN THEIR LIFE 11:26 TIME WITHIN THREE TO FOUR YEARS WE WILL HAVE BILLIONS OF PEOPLE 11:31 TOUCHED. 11:32 SO WHY HAVEN'T WE BEEN DOING THIS ALREADY? 11:33 WELL I THINK YOU JUST NEED A FEW MORE PEOPLE ENTHUSIASTIC TO GET THIS 11:39 THING GOING. 11:39 CHALLENGING PEOPLE. 11:40 CHALLENGING YES. 11:41 AND I'M CHALLENGING MY CHURCH IN INDIA. 11:44 AND NEXT WEEK I'LL BE MEETING WITH OUR LEADERSHIP IN WASHINGTON 11:48 DC AND I'M ASKING THEM TO DO THREE THINGS. 11:53 HAVE A REVIVAL MEETING IN EVERY CHURCH IN SOUTHERN ASIA. 11:57 EVERY CHURCH SHOULD HAVE A REVIVAL MEETING. 12:00 ALL OUR PROBLEMS IN WITNESSING HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH SPIRITUAL 12:05 SLEEP. 12:06 OKAY. 12:07 SPIRITUALLY BEING ASLEEP. 12:09 SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR WAKE UP MEETINGS. 12:10 I'M ASKING FOR WAKE UP MEETINGS IN EVERY CHURCH. 12:12 NO. 12:14 2 TO TRAIN ELDERS SO THAT THEY WILL TAKE OVER THE SUPERVISION AND DIRECTION 12:20 OF THE LOCAL CHURCHES SO THAT OUR GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS AND THE PASTORS 12:25 THEY CAN MOVE ON TO NEW TERRITORIES AND TALK TO MORE BROTHERS AND SISTERS 12:30 FOR WHOM JESUS DIED. 12:32 HANG ON JUST A SECOND. 12:33 DO YOU LIKE THAT? 12:35 YOU KNOW THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE BUT BEFORE YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION IN 12:39 YOUR LIVING ROOM I WANT YOU TO WATCH THIS. 12:41 I NEED TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL HERE AT HOME. 12:47 WHERE IS THE 10/40 WINDOW ANYWAY? 12:51 THOSE PEOPLE LIVE TOO FAR AWAY. 12:53 SOMEONE ELSE CAN TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS. 12:56 MAYBE THEY COULD JUST WATCH TV. 12:59 NEARLY THREE BILLION PEOPLE TO REACH. 13:02 MY HEAD HURTS. 13:04 THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO. 13:07 I GIVE UP. 13:08 WHAT'S THE POINT OF TRYING? 13:11 I CAN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 13:14 ACTUALLY YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 13:17 AND JESUS ASKED YOU TO GO TO ALL THE WORLD. 13:22 WHERE? 13:23 ALL THE WORLD. 13:24 HOW CAN I GO, I HAVE COMMITMENTS. 13:28 YOU CAN PRAY. 13:30 YOU CAN VOLUNTEER YOUR TALENTS. 13:32 YOU CAN TELL OTHERS. 13:35 YOU CAN GIVE MONEY TO SPONSOR BIBLE WORKERS. 13:38 MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING FOR HOPE AND MEANING. 13:41 BUT THEY WON'T FIND IT WITHOUT YOU. 13:43 BE THE SPARK. 13:44 LIGHT THE FIRE. 13:46 FINISH THE WORK. 13:49 FINISH THE WORK. 13:51 BE THE SPARK. 13:54 MANZOOR MASSEY IS WITH ME AND HE IS TALKING ABOUT SPARKS, NO FIRES, NO 13:59 CONFLAGRATIONS OF TURNING THE WORLD UPSIDE DOWN. 14:03 TAKE ME BACK TO WHAT IT MEANS TO BE ON YOUR FEET FOR JESUS. 14:08 WELL ON YOUR FEET FOR JESUS MEANS THAT EVERYBODY MUST BECOME A DISCIPLE. 14:13 NOT JUST A MEMBER WHO GOES AND COMES. 14:16 NOT JUST A MEMBER, NOT JUST AN OCCASIONALLY. 14:18 YOU KNOW IN EVER PLACE YOU FIND SAME OLD FIVE PEOPLE BAKE ALL THE COOKIES. 14:23 THAT IS NOT OUR CONCEPT OF BEING A DISCIPLE. 14:26 OKAY. 14:27 IT MEANS BUSINESS. 14:28 JESUS IS COMING SOON. 14:29 EITHER WE BELIEVE IT OR WE DON'T. 14:32 AND SO I'M CHALLENGING MYSELF AND I'M CHALLENGING OUR BELIEVERS IN INDIA 14:38 THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. 14:39 IN LOMA LINDA UNIVERSITY WHERE I AM A MEMBER A GROUP OF US HAVE STARTED A 14:45 GROUP CALLED "OPEN DOOR MINISTRY." 14:47 THIS IS A SEPARATE GROUP THAT WE MEET IN AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE APARTMENT 14:53 HOUSING ALL AROUND US AND IT'S A COMMUNITY THAT NEEDS HELP. 14:56 AND THERE ARE ABOUT 100 PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO OUR FELLOWSHIP BECAUSE WE 15:02 ARE ON OUR FEET FOR JESUS. 15:04 WHICH MEANS YOU'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THOSE PEOPLE. 15:06 WE'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THESE PEOPLE, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE FRIENDS AND THAT'S HOW 15:09 JESUS DID. 15:10 AND SO I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOME SLIDES. 15:12 OKAY. 15:13 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 15:16 THE SECRET OF GROWTH IN THE EARLY CHURCH WAS BASED ON THESE PEOPLE WERE LED 15:21 BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. 15:22 THAT'S NO. 15:22 1. 15:23 WE UNDER ESTIMATE. 15:24 JESUS DISCIPLES HAD BEEN WITH JESUS FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS. 15:28 AND THEY WERE READY, THEY HAD SEEN HIS MIRACLES, THEY HAD SEEN EVERYTHING. 15:33 AND WHEN THEY WERE ALL EXCITED TO GO OUT THERE AND HE SAID, NO YOU'RE NOT 15:36 READY YET. 15:37 WAIT. 15:38 IN ACTS 1:8 HE SAID YOU WAIT UNTIL YOU RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. 15:43 THAT IS WHAT FATHER HAS PROMISED AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE MY WITNESS. 15:46 THEN THE POWER WILL COME. 15:47 THEN YOU WILL HAVE POWER. 15:48 AND SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING. 15:50 NO. 15:51 2 IS UNITED IN FAITH. 15:53 WE CANNOT TOLERATE ANY TYPE OF DISSENSION AMONG OURSELVES BECAUSE IF WE DO 15:59 NOT SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, LOVE ONE ANOTHER. 16:02 WHEN OUTSIDE PEOPLE SEE US IN OUR CHURCHES THEY WILL SAY OH I DON'T WANT TO 16:07 JOIN THIS KIND OF FELLOWSHIP. 16:09 SO THE CHURCH UNITED IN FAITH. 16:12 NO MEMBERS-BY THE WAY WE COULD SPEND A LONG TIME ON NO. 16:14 2. 16:15 WE COULD SPEND A LONG TIME AND I THINK I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO MISUNDERSTAND. 16:20 I'M NOT ASKING FOR UNIFORMITY IN EVERY BELIEF. 16:24 YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR UNIFORMITY YOU'RE ASKING FOR UNITY. 16:27 UNITY. 16:28 THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT. 16:29 IT IS VERY DIFFERENT. 16:30 OKAY. 16:32 AND ONE CREATES DISSENSION, ONE CREATES YOU KNOW LOVE FOR ONE 16:33 ANOTHER. 16:34 AND NO MEMBERS BUT ONLY BELIEVERS AND DISCIPLES. 16:36 NOW DEFINE THAT AGAIN BECAUSE I LOVED YOUR DEFINITION. 16:37 A MEMBER IS SOMEBODY WHO GOES TO CHURCH, SLEEPS THROUGH SABBATH SCHOOL, 16:39 YOU KNOW SLEEPS THROUGH HALF THE SERMON AND GOES HOME AND GOES TO SLEEP. 16:41 YES. 16:42 IF YOU DO NOT HAVE, IF YOU HAVE NOT ADOPTED ANYTHING TO DO TO TELL ABOUT JESUS 16:45 YOU'RE STILL A MEMBER. 16:50 IF YOU'RE DOING NOTHING FOR JESUS EXCEPT FOR YOURSELF, AND BY ATTENDING 17:05 MAYBE, THAT'S A MEMBER. 17:07 OKAY. 17:08 YOU MAY BE PAYING TITLE AND OFFERINGS, YOU MAY BE ATTENDING, YOU MAY BE 17:13 PARTICIPATING. 17:14 YOU'RE DOING ALL THE STUFF. 17:15 YOU'RE DOING ALL THE STUFF BUT IF YOU'RE NOT CONSCIOUSLY MAKING THIS AS 17:19 YOUR MISSION TO TALK TO SOMEBODY. 17:22 MY PHILOSOPHY IS YOU READ ABOUT GOD, YOU TALK TO GOD, AND TALK ABOUT GOD. 17:31 THEN YOU ARE GRADUATING INTO BECOMING A BELIEVER-MEMBER, BELIEVER, 17:36 DISCIPLE. 17:37 AND A DISCIPLE IS SOMEBODY WHO ACTIVELY COMMUNICATES CHRIST TO OTHERS. 17:41 ABSOLUTELY. 17:42 IF SOMEBODY SAVES YOUR LIFE WOULD YOU HIDE THAT NEWS. 17:47 WALK INTO A COMMUNITY AND SAY OH MY IT'S A MIRACLE YOU'RE ALIVE. 17:51 THAT'S RIGHT. 17:51 IT REALLY IS. 17:52 LET ME TELL YOU. 17:54 AND WHEN IT GETS TO THE TELLING THEN YOU BECOME CHANGED. 17:56 EXACTLY. 17:58 IF YOU'RE NOT TELLING CONSCIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT SHARING, YOU'RE HIDING. 18:00 OKAY. 18:01 SO I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO LOOK INTO 18:05 YOUR EYES WHEN THEY GET THE ANSWER. 18:07 I'M 75 LET'S SAY. 18:09 I'M PRETTY WELL CAPTURED IN MY HOME. 18:11 I DO A LITTLE BIT OF OUTSIDE WORK BUT NOT MUCH. 18:14 I DRIVE TO COSTCO MAYBE AND ACROSS THE STREET AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. 18:18 I LIVE IN A TRAILER COURT AND MAYBE ONCE A MONTH I GO DOWN AND SWIM IN THE 18:23 POOL OR SIT IN THE HOT TUB FOR A FEW MINUTES. 18:26 I GET TO CHURCH ON SABBATH BECAUSE SOMEONE TAKES ME. 18:30 HOW CAN I BECOME A DISCIPLE? 18:33 DO YOU HAVE A SMART PHONE? 18:35 DO YOU HAVE A TELEPHONE? 18:36 I HAVE A DUMB PHONE. 18:37 YOU HAVE A TELEPHONE. 18:37 I'VE GOT A TELEPHONE. 18:39 YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO CALL YOU? 18:41 OCCASIONALLY. 18:42 YOU SEE WE HAVE SO MANY AVENUES THESE DAYS. 18:47 GOD IS NOT ASKING YOU TO CROSS THE OCEAN AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. 18:51 GOD IS ASKING YOU TO DO YOUR BEST. 18:53 WHICH MAY BE TO LIFT UP MY PHONE AND SAY-AND TELL SOME LONELY PERSON HEY 18:59 DON'T GIVE UP, JESUS LOVES YOU, HE'S COMING SOON. 19:03 YOU SEE THERE ARE HE WHO HATH THE GOOD NEWS CAN FIND AVENUES TO SHARE. 19:09 IT IS A CONSCIOUS DECISION. 19:11 THE BIRTH FOR WITNESSING COMES FROM AN ATTITUDE OF GRATITUDE. 19:17 ARE WE REALLY GRATEFUL THAT JESUS SAVED US. 19:24 I TELL YOU THE PLANT THAT GOSPEL OUTREACH HAS PLANTED AROUND THE WORLD 19:30 IS AMAZING. 19:31 YOU SEE PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY AND THEY ARE EXCITED TO TELL OTHER PEOPLE BUT WHEN 19:36 WE HAVE SO MUCH WE KIND OF LIVE IN A SMORGASBORD. 19:40 WE HAVE SO MUCH SPIRITUAL STUFF AND WE DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE EVEN TO BELIEVE 19:44 OR NOT BELIEVE. 19:45 AND SO VERY OFTEN WE DO NOTHING. 19:47 WE DO NOTHING AND WE END UP VERY MAYBE MEMBERS. 19:50 YES. 19:51 OKAY, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THEN. 19:53 SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE SLIDE AND IT SAYS HERE "THE EARLY CHURCH LOVED 19:57 AND SERVED ONE ANOTHER." 19:59 THIS WAS THEIR BIGGEST, BIGGEST, BIGGEST SUCCESS STORY. 20:03 THEY WERE ALWAYS HANGING OUT TOGETHER. 20:06 YOU SEE, WHAT IS OUR ATTENDANCE MIDWEEK MEETINGS. 20:11 OH, ARE THERE STILL MID WEEK MEETINGS? 20:15 THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF THEM HAVE JUST GONE AWAY. 20:17 YES. 20:18 WHAT ABOUT FRIDAY NIGHT MEETINGS YOU KNOW. 20:20 OR SABBATH SCHOOL ATTENDANCE. 20:24 THE SIGN OF A WANING CHURCH IS LOW ATTENDANCE DURING SABBATH SCHOOL, 20:29 LATE COMING DURING CHURCH AND FINALLY THOSE MEMBERS ARE GOING TO PHASE OUT. 20:35 THAT MAY NOT BE THOUGH BECAUSE NOTHING GOOD IS HAPPENING IN THOSE 20:39 MEETINGS. 20:39 NO. 20:41 THE DEVIL HAD HIS CONFERENCE AND HE WAS TELLING, HE WAS ASKING HIS 20:45 ANGELS, WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH THESE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK. 20:49 THESE ARE US, PEOPLE OF THE BOOK ARE THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST 20:52 PEOPLE. 20:53 AND THEY SUGGESTED OH MAKE 'EM SIN, MAKE 'EM DO THIS AND HE SAID NO, THEY WON'T 20:57 FALL FOR THAT. 20:58 WELL WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN MIND. 20:59 MAKE 'EM BELIEVE THEY'RE VERY BUSY. 21:02 MAKE 'EM BELIEVE THEY'RE VERY BUSY. 21:03 TOO BUSY TO EVEN READ ANYMORE OR TO PRAY. 21:06 YOU SEE LESS THAN 15 PERCENT OF THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST HOMES HAVE DAILY 21:12 WORSHIP MORNING AND EVENING WORSHIP IN THEIR HOMES. 21:14 AND THAT MEANS MORE THAN ONE PERSON DOING IT TOGETHER. 21:17 THAT'S RIGHT. 21:19 AND SO DISCIPLESHIP, OKAY BACK TO THE SLIDE, DISCIPLESHIP TAKES YOU 21:22 BACK TO ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE MASTER HAS ASKED US TO DO. 21:26 AND THEN COMMITMENT--THAT'S TOO BIG A WORD-TO THE MASTER AND 21:31 HIS MISSION. 21:32 COMMITMENT, NOW YOU'VE GOT ME INVOLVED. 21:35 THERE IS NO COMMITMENT. 21:36 COMMITMENT IS WHAT EVERY RELATIONSHIP IS ALL ABOUT ISN'T IT. 21:40 YES. 21:41 WILLING TO STAKE THEIR ALL INCLUDING THEIR LIVES. 21:45 THIS WAS THE REASON WHY THE EARLY CHURCH GREW SO FAST. 21:49 THINK ABOUT 12 PEOPLE LIGHTING THE FIRE THAT THE ENTIRE WORLD CANNOT STOP. 21:55 AMAZING. 21:55 NO EMPERORS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STOP. 21:58 THAT FIRE IS BURNING BRIGHTER AND BRIGHTER ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS 22:02 PERSECUTION THAT FIRE GOES EVEN BRIGHTER. 22:06 BUT THAT'S BECAUSE I'M COMMITTED TO SOMETHING. 22:08 THAT'S RIGHT. 22:09 AND I'M NOT JUST A MEMBER, I AM A PARTICIPATING MEMBER. 22:13 AND JESUS SAYS GO, MAKE THEM DISCIPLES. 22:16 YES. 22:17 AND SO IT BEGAN A MOVEMENT THAT HAS CHANGED THE WORLD. 22:21 AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. 22:22 THAT'S WHAT I AM PROPOSING THAT YOU BE ON YOUR FEET FOR JESUS. 22:27 OKAY. 22:27 SO HERE'S YOUR LAST SLIDE. 22:29 HERE WE HAVE A SLIDE AND I WANT TO GO TO ONE, SO WHAT THIS INVOLVED IS CHURCH 22:36 DEVELOPMENT, SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. 22:39 THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING IN INDIA. 22:41 WE ARE TRAINING ELDERS SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FREE THE GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKER 22:46 TO MOVE ON TO THE NEW TERRITORY. 22:49 TO UNTOUCHED AREAS. 22:50 UNTOUCHED AREAS. 22:51 ALRIGHT. 22:52 AND THEN TEACHING MEMBERS FAITHFULNESS. 22:54 WHAT IS FAITHFULNESS. 22:55 FAITHFULNESS IN SHARING THE WORD AS WELL AS INVESTING WITH GOD. 22:56 INVESTING. 22:57 INVESTING WITH GOD. 22:58 ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MONEY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TIME? 22:59 FAITHFUL IN TIME, TITHE, OFFERING, WHATEVER. 23:00 IF YOU GIVE YOURSELF THEN GOD HAS EVERYTHING. 23:16 BUT IF ALL YOU GIVE IS YOUR MONEY THEN GOD HAS VERY LITTLE OF YOU. 23:21 YES. 23:21 AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING. 23:24 THAT WE WANT TOTAL COMMITMENT. 23:26 SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT WE ARE CALLING IT. 23:28 OKAY. 23:30 ALL OUR PROBLEMS ARE SPIRITUAL BY THE WAY. 23:32 I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. 23:33 ALL OUR PROBLEMS ARE THE ROOT CAUSE IS SPIRITUALITY YOU KNOW. 23:36 AND THEN THE LAST ONE. 23:37 IN INDIA WE ARE DEVELOPING SIX INDUSTRIES IN THE UNION THAT WE HAVE 23:42 SELECTED AS A PILOT PROJECT. 23:43 IT'S CALLED EAST CENTRAL INDIA UNION. 23:47 AND WE ARE GIVING THEM FIVE YEARS. 23:49 WITHIN FIVE YEARS THEY NEED TO BE ON THEIR FEET SO THEY WILL BE SELF 23:53 RELIANT. 23:53 SO HOW ARE YOU DOING THAT? 23:57 WELL FIRST IS SPIRITUAL REVIVAL. 24:01 NUMBER TWO IS TRAINING THE ELDERS SO THEY CAN SPREAD THE WORD AND FREE THE 24:06 PASTORS TO GO FURTHER SOMEWHERE ELSE. 24:09 AND THEN WHAT ARE YOUR INDUSTRIES. 24:10 IN THE INDUSTRIES WE HAVE A BAKERY IN ONE PLACE. 24:14 WE HAVE TWO DAIRY FARMS AND A THIRD ONE IS SHEEP AND GOAT FARM. 24:20 REALLY. 24:22 WE BOUGHT 200 THREE MONTHS AGO AND NOW WE HAVE 300 ALREADY. 24:25 WE ARE INTENDING TO EXPAND THAT TO 1000 ANIMALS. 24:29 AND WITH THAT FARM THEY CAN SUPPORT FOUR CONFERENCES. 24:36 TELL ME THAT AGAIN. 24:38 WITH THE SHEEP AND GOAT FARM THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GENERATE REVENUE TO 24:39 SUPPORT FOUR CONFERENCES. 24:40 WHEN YOU SAY SUPPORT, TO PAY THE PASTORS? 24:41 TO PAY THE PASTORS OUT OF THAT? 24:42 PAY THE GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS. 24:43 REALLY. 24:44 SO WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH THE SHEEP AND GOAT FARM, MILK, MUTTON? 24:46 WHOLESALE. 24:47 PEOPLE COME AND BUY FROM US FOR MILK OR FOR MUTTON OR FOR SHEARING. 25:05 SO IT IS VERY FASCINATING. 25:09 I'M LEARNING A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT KIND OF BUSINESS YES. 25:12 SO YOU'RE GOING TO START ONE OF THOSE IN LOMA LINDA? 25:16 (LAUGHING) WELL OUR FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS INDIA. 25:19 OKAY. 25:20 SO WE'RE GOING TO BE IN SOUTH INDIA IN THE EAST CENTRAL INDIA UNION. 25:23 AND I TELL YOU THIS IS GOD'S MIRACLE THAT OUR LEADERSHIP IS BEHIND IT. 25:29 OUR GENERAL CONFERENCE IS INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO IT AND SO EVERYWHERE THERE 25:36 IS THIS ENTHUSIASM WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 25:40 AND THE IDEA IS PUT PEOPLE ON THEIR FEET FOR JESUS. 25:44 WELL THE OTHER IDEA I HEAR YOU SAYING IS IF I TAKE MY CURRENT MEMBERSHIP AND GET 25:53 THEM EXCITED ENOUGH THAT THEY ARE TRULY COMMITTED TO WHAT CHRIST IS DOING IN 25:57 THEIR LIVES AND THEIR SPENDING MORE TIME IN SCRIPTURE AND THEY'RE 26:01 HELPING WITH THE SHEEP AND GOAT FARM OR THEIR ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE 26:05 MILK FARM THE NEXT THINK YOU KNOW THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES, THE CURRENT 26:11 GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS ARE GOING TO BE OVER HERE STARTING BRAND NEW WORK 26:15 WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF JESUS. 26:17 THAT'S RIGHT. 26:17 AND YOU'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE WORLD. 26:20 YES, WE WANT TO CHANGE THE WORLD. 26:21 GOSPEL OUTREACH COULD TAKE THESE SAME BUDGETS AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE WE 26:25 HAVE GREATER NEED. 26:26 AND WE HAVE NEEDS ALL OVER THE WORLD. 26:29 WE ARE IN 40 COUNTRIES. 26:30 WELL AND GOSPEL OUTREACH HAS SAID FROM DAY ONE WE DON'T WANT OUR WORKERS 26:34 SUPPORTING WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING, WE WANT THEM OPENING NEW DOORS. 26:38 THAT'S RIGHT AND I THINK IT IS SUCH A BLESSING TO BE PART OF GOSPEL 26:43 OUTREACH. 26:44 IT HAS CHANGED MY LIFE AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I SHARE THAT ENTHUSIASM WITH 26:49 MY PEOPLE IN INDIA AND EVERYWHERE ELSE. 26:51 AND THAT ENTHUSIASM CAN CHANGE YOUR LIFE TOO. 26:56 JOIN US AT GOSPEL OUTREACH. 26:57 CHANGE THE WORLD. 28:01 [CLOSING MUSIC] |
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