[OPENING MUSIC].
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WELCOME TO
"ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS".
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I'M DICK DUERKSEN AND TODAY I
GET TO GO BACK IN TIME AND TALK
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WITH A FRIEND AND I'M
REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
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GOOD.
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SO DON HALENZ, YOU ARE, YOU AND
YOUR WIFE ARE COUNTRY DIRECTORS
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FOR WHAT PART OF THE WORLD?
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FOR SOUTH INDIA-IT'S REGION 17:
SOUTH INDIA WE HAVE THREE STATES
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AND THEN I'M ALSO RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS
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IN SRI LANKA. SO ACROSS THE
RIVER, ACROSS THE RIVER INTO SRI
LANKA AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE
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GOING TO BE
FOCUSING ON SRI LANKA.
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OK, SO THAT'S A
PLACE I HAVEN'T BEEN.
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REALLY?
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I HAVE STOOD AT THE RABENDRA,
REALLY, AND LOOKED ACROSS BUT I
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HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE
TO ACTUALLY GET THERE.
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SO THIS IS ALL BRAND NEW.
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YES.
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BUT LET ME GET STARTED IN A
DIFFERENT WAY, HOW MANY YEARS
HAVE YOU AS A PH.D.
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IN CHEMISTRY, RIGHT?
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YES THAT'S RIGHT - HOW MANY
YEARS DID YOU TEACH AT P.U.C.?
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OH MY, I TAUGHT FROM 1980 ON TO
ABOUT 1999 AND THEN I BECAME THE
ASSOCIATE ACADEMIC DEAN
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FOR THE NEXT FOUR
YEARS, SO THAT'S REALLY HOME.
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THAT'S REALLY MY HOME AND
I STILL LIVE THERE IN ANGWIN,
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CALIFORNIA. IN ANGWIN,
CALIFORNIA THAT'S RIGHT.
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WOW!
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WELL, SEVEN OF THOSE BRENDA
AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE, AS YOU
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KNOW, OF BEING ON THE
ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM, THAT'S
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RIGHT, WHEN YOU WERE MAKING SURE
THE KIDS WERE IN CHEMISTRY AND
YOU AND I MADE A TRIP TO HONG
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KONG ONCE.
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WE SURE DID, I'LL
NEVER FORGET THAT.
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REMEMBER HOW THE
LIGHTS OF HONG KONG AT NIGHT.
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YES WOW, IT'S REALLY SOMETHING.
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ABSOLUTELY STUNNING.
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YES, GOOD YEARS.
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VERY GOOD YEARS.
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GOOD MEMORIES.
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THAT'S RIGHT.
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A LOT OF GOOD TIMES.
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BUT NOW YOU ARE DOING
SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
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THAT'S RIGHT.
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YOU RETIRED.
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I RETIRED I WENT TO CAMPMEETING
AND AS THINGS HAPPEN, THE PERSON
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SITTING NEXT TO ME WAS BEVERLY,
BEVERLY THOMPSON AND WE GOT
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TALKING AND I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT
GOSPEL OUTREACH AND I SAID, "YOU
KNOW I WAS INTERESTED IN
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SERVING WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH AS
A COUNTRY DIRECTOR AND I SENT A
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LETTER IN AND
NOTHING EVER HAPPENED."
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SHE SAID, "YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD
LET THEM KNOW BECAUSE I THINK
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THERE'S AN OPENING
NOW IN SOUTH INDIA."
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NOW YOU WERE AT THAT
POINT AT WHAT CAMPMEETING?
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THE REDWOOD CAMPMEETING.
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REDWOOD, OH YES.
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REDWOOD
CAMPMEETING, OK, THAT'S RIGHT.
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AND SO WE WERE THERE AND SHE
SAID YOU SHOULD LET THEM KNOW.
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SO I LET THEM KNOW AND SIX
MONTHS LATER I GOT A PHONE CALL
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FROM DAN PREAS HE SAID,
"WE'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU."
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WOW.
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SO THAT WAS MY INTRODUCTION TO
GOSPEL OUTREACH AND FROM THERE
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ON IT IS JUST HISTORY NOW.
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HOW LONG HAVE YOU
BEEN WORKING WITH US?
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I'VE BEEN WITH GOSPEL
OUTREACH FOR FOUR YEARS NOW.
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WE'VE MADE FOUR TRIPS TO
INDIA AND WE'VE LOVED IT.
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IT'S BEEN VERY GOOD.
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THE TRIP OVER IS A BIT LONG
BUT IT'S GOOD-NO IT'S' NOT A BIT
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LONG IT IS FOREVER!
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WE SHOULD SAY THAT THE BED TO
BED HOURS IS WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS
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PUT DOWN, BRENDA AND I, YES, IF
YOU GO TO INDIA YOU ARE
LITERALLY LOOKING AT 48 HOURS,
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YES FOR SURE, FROM BED TO BED.
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ABSOLUTELY.
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AND BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE
YOU DON'T WHO YOU ARE, WHERE YOU
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ARE OR WHY. I THINK IT IS HARDER
COMING BACK TO THIS COUNTRY TOO.
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WE MADE THE ADJUSTMENT FAIRLY
READILY WHEN WE GOT THERE BUT
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COMING BACK IT WAS HARD.
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IT IS ALWAYS HARD,
IT'S ALWAYS THE HARDEST.
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SO THIS LAST TIME WHEN YOU
WENT YOU WENT TO SRI LANKA.
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THAT'S RIGHT, WE WENT TO SRI
LANKA AND WE -WAS IT YOUR FIRST
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TIME THERE? NO, IT WAS MY FOURTH
TIME THAT YOU HIT BOTH AREAS,
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RIGHT? YES, BOTH AREAS FOUR
TIMES AND SO WE HAVE ONLY THREE
GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS IN
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SRI LANKA.
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WE USED TO HAVE SOME MORE BUT
THEY'VE DROPPED OFF AND WE HAVE
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THREE. THIS YEAR WE JUST STARTED
A NEW WORKER IN JANUARY AND SO
WE GOT TO MEET WITH
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THAT NEW WORKER AND WENT UP
AND SAW HIM AND HE PRESENTED HIS
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PLANS FOR WHAT HE'D LIKE TO DO
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE
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VERY GOOD. SO, I ACTUALLY HAVE A
LITTLE BIT OF VIDEO I'D LIKE TO
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SHOW YOU. I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
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OK, WE'LL TAKE A
LOOK AT THE VIDEO.
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HERE WE ARE DRIVING OUT OF
THE GROUNDS OF THE SRI LANKA
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ADVENTIST MISSION AND WE HAD
THIS VAN RENTED FOR THE TRIP AND
THEN WE STARTED ON DOWN THE
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HIGHWAY IN JUST A MINUTE
HERE TO VISIT THE NEW WORKER.
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SO THIS IS IN COLOMBO, RIGHT?
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THIS IS IN COLOMBO AND THIS
IS THE CITY OF COLOMBO AS WE ARE
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LEAVING THE CITY DRIVING NORTH
TO VISIT THE NEW MAN IN A PLACE
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CALLED BALIGODA OR
CLOSE TO BALIGODA AT LEAST.
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THERE WAS ANOTHER FELLOW THERE
FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS BUT HE IS
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NOW RETIRED AND SO WE ARE ON OUR
WAY TO VISIT THIS NEW WORKER.
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NOW IT'S VERY DIFFERENT
FROM UP IN TRABENDRUM, YES.
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YES, VERY DIFFERENT.
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THIS IS THE NEW WORKER AND HIS
WIFE AND HE HAS JUST JOINED US
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AS I SAID JUST RECENTLY.
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THIS A LITTLE CHURCH RIGHT
NEXT TO WHERE HE LIVES AND THIS
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CHURCH HAS A PARSONAGE BEHIND.
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HE DOESN'T LIVE IN THE PARSONAGE
BUT ITS' A NICE LITTLE CHURCH
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AND WE'RE HOPING THAT HE
CAN FILL THIS WITH MEMBERS.
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IT'S GOTTEN RATHER-NOT TOO
MANY PEOPLE THERE RIGHT NOW BUT
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ANYWAY. I'M GOING SOUTH
ON VIDEO FOR JUST A MINUTE.
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O.K.
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ANYWAY, THIS MAN WAS A MINISTER
BEFORE WITH THE SEVENTH DAY
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ADVENTIST CHURCH AND THEN HIS
PARENTS SAID,"WE NEED YOU, WE'RE
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ELDERLY, WE'LL SUPPORT
YOU CAN YOU PLEASE HELP US?"
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SO HE DROPPED OUT
FROM THE GOSPEL MINISTRY.
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HE WAS NOT ORDAINED AND HE
STARTED WORKING AND STAYED TO BE
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NEAR THE PARENTS. WELL, THEY
HAVE BOTH DIED AND THEN HE SAID,
"YOU KNOW, I THINK I WOULD LIKE
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TO GET BACK AND BE
GOSPEL MINISTRY AGAIN."
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AND SO AS IT TURNED OUT THERE
WAS AN OPENING AND THE MAN WHO
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WAS IN THIS GENERAL AREA RETIRED
AND SO HE WAS HIRED BY GOSPEL
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OUTREACH. HIS NAME WAS RANJI AND
WE HAVE A LOT OF HOPE THAT RANJI
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AND HIS WIFE CAN FILL UP THAT
LITTLE CHURCH AGAIN AND DEVELOP
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THE MINISTRY. HE IS ALSO WORKING
IN ANOTHER AREA RIGHT NEXT DOOR
AND SO THAT'S GOING
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TO BE APPARENTLY A
MAIN FOCUS OF HIS AS WELL.
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SO, WE HAVE A LOT OF HOPE
FOR THE WORK IN THAT CITY.
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SO YOU'VE GOT A YOUNG MAN
WHO IS NOT AS YOUNG-NOT SO YOUNG
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ANYMORE- NOT AS HE WAS WHEN HE
FIRST STARTED THE MINISTRY,
THAT'S RIGHT, BUT HE IS BACK IN
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THE MINISTRY THAT'S RIGHT AND
HE'S TAKING A CHURCH THAT ONCE
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WAS RIPE AND FULL, THAT'S RIGHT
AND THEN THE PEOPLE HAVE
DWINDLED AWAY AND NOW WE
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HOPE HE IS GOING
TO BUILD IT UP AGAIN.
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WELL, THAT'S EXCITING, THAT'S
OUR HOPE AND YOU GET TO HELP
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FOLLOW THAT FOR
THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
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WE'LL BE FOLLOWING THAT; WE'LL
BE SEEING THAT AS THE TIME RUNS
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ALONG. WOW.
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FROM HERE WE WENT TO SEE
THE NEXT FELLOW, OK, MORE VIDEO?
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THIS IS THE MAN THERE STANDING
IN THE DOORWAY AND THIS WAS A
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CHURCH WHERE HE IS THE PASTOR.
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HE IS ACTING AS THE PASTOR OF
THIS GROUP AND THESE PEOPLE ARE
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GATHERED FOR A BAPTISM.
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HERE THEY ARE AND HE IS PLAYING
ON HIS TAMBOURINE-THE SOUND IS
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TURNED DOWN RIGHT NOW BUT THEY
ALWAYS HAVE A TAMBOURINE AND
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THEY PLAY THE TAMBOURINE.
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IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THEM AND
THEY SING VERY LUSTILY AND IT'S
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A GREAT THING.
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HE HAD HIS SON HERE SHOWN IN THE
MOVIE WELCOMING PEOPLE TO THIS
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BAPTISM AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS
A NICE THING SO I TOOK A PICTURE
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OF THE LITTLE BOY. HE WAS ALL
DRESSED UP HIS BEST CLOTHES AND
WELCOMING PEOPLE TO COME TO THIS
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BAPTISM.
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BOY, HE LOOKS LIKE
HE'S JUST TOTALLY IN CHARGE.
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OH YES, HE WAS IN
CHARGE, HE WAS IN CHARGE.
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SO HERE IS THE GROUP AGAIN, THEY
ARE SINGING AND ENJOYING THE
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VISIT SO THERE WERE AT THIS
LOCATION- THE FELLOW WITH THE
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TAMBOURINE IS THE GOSPEL
OUTREACH DIRECTOR AND HIS NAME
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IS RAMAN KUMAR. THEN THE MISSION
PRESIDENT JORDAN WAMBEK WAS HERE
AND HE WAS DEMONSTRATING HOW A
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BAPTISM WAS DONE.
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OH REALLY?
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SO HE HAD THIS FELLOW UP
IN FRONT HE SAID, "I NEED A
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VOLUNTEER." THIS FELLOW CAME UP
AND HE DEMONSTRATED AND THEN IT
WAS TRANSLATED BY ANOTHER
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FELLOW SO THEY GAVE THE WHOLE
THING SO THE PEOPLE KNEW WHAT TO
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EXPECT BECAUSE THEY HADN'T
HAD ANY BAPTISMS THERE FOR SOME
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TIME. NOW THEY ARE WALKING ALONG
THE PATH TO THE BAPTISMAL PLACE
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AND YOU CAN SEE PEOPLE WALKING
DOWN THIS LITTLE PATHWAY.
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THEY WERE CONCERNED
ABOUT PREJUDICE AGAINST THE
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ADVENTISTS. UH HUH.
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BECAUSE PREJUDICES ARE FAIRLY
STRONG AND YOU HAVE TO BE A
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LITTLE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY
BECAUSE IT IS A HIGHLY MUSLIM
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COUNTRY. THIS IS IN
THE TEA PLANTATION AREA.
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THERE'S A TEA PLANTATION SHOWN
ON TOP OF THE HILL THERE AND
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THIS IS THE BAPTISMAL SITE NOW.
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THE FISH POND!
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THE FISH POND.
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THERE'S A MUDDY RIVER REMINDS
YOU OF THE JORDAN RIVER FOR
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EXAMPLE. YES.
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AND SO HERE'S THE MISSION
PRESIDENT GEORGE WAMBEK IS GOING
TO BAPTIZE THIS LADY
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AND WE'LL JUST WATCH
THAT BAPTISM TAKE PLACE NOW.
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HE'S JUST ABOUT READY.
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SO THERE WAS A NEW
SOUL FOR THE KINGDOM.
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THAT'S EXCITING.
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NOW AFERWARD THEY HAD A DINNER
AND MY WIFE IS SHOWN THERE WITH
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A -LOOKING FOR THE FOOD-LOOKING
FOR THE FOOD AND SO ON.
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SO THEY HAD A NICE LITTLE DINNER
AND FROM THERE WE WENT TO VISIT
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ANOTHER GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKER.
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WELL BEFORE I LET YOU GO THERE
I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF
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QUESTIONS. SURE.
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THE TAMBOURINE
INTRIGUED ME, YES.
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HOW IS THE MUSIC IN SRI LANKA
DIFFERENT FROM THE MUSIC -I
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WON'T ASK YOU ABOUT P.U.C., NO,
BECAUSE I KNOW THE PROGRAM THERE
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BUT TAKE ME TO THE
SOUTHERN PART OF INDIA.
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RIGHT.
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IS IT THE SAME OR DIFFERENT?
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VERY SIMILAR.
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THEY USE TAMBOURINES AND
THERE'S OFTEN NOT AN ORGAN.
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THE TAMBOURINE IS OFTEN IT.
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NOW IN A FEW OF THE BIGGER
CHURCHES THEY'LL HAVE AN ORGAN
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BUT THAT'S THE EXCEPTION
- THOSE ARE NOT THE RULES.
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NOW MANY TIMES I HAVE FOUND
THERE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF
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INDIA WHERE THEY USE A DRUM.
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RIGHT, THEY MAY
USE DRUMS TOO YES.
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BUT WHY?
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WHY IS THAT AN IMPORTANT PART OF
THE SERVICE THE TAMBOURINE AND
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THE DRUM? I THINK IT HELPS THEM
DEVELOP A LITTLE UNITY AND IT'S
THE ONLY THING THEY
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HAVE SO THE
TAMBOURINE OR NOTHING.
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SO IT HELPS KEEP
THE BEAT, YOU KNOW.
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IT HELPS KEEP THE PEOPLE
TOGETHER SO I THOUGHT IT WAS A
PRETTY GOOD IDEA TO
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HAVE A TAMBOURINE
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
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THAT'S NEAT, YES.
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AS I SAID IN THE LARGE CITIES
LIKE CHENNAI THEY'LL HAVE AN
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ORGAN BUT OTHERWISE IT IS GOING
TO BE TAMBOURINES PROBABLY.
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THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS.
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WELL AND THE MUSIC THEY ARE
SINGING THE SAME SONGS YOU SING
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AT P.U.C? NO.
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NO SOMETIMES I RECOGNIZE
THEM BUT OF COURSE, I DON'T
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UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE AND SO
THE WORDS I DON'T KNOW BUT I
UNDERSTAND THE MELODY.
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SOMETIMES IT IS SLIGHTLY
CHANGED; SOMETIMES IT IS ABOUT
THE SAME; SOMETIMES
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IT'S ENTIRELY DIFFERENT
AND I DON'T KNOW A THING ABOUT.
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I WAS LISTENING ONE TIME IN
INDIA TO A BEAUTIFUL PIECE ON
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SABBATH MORNING EVERYBODY WAS
SINGING ALONG WITH THE DRUM JUST
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FINE. YES, I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE
IT AT ALL AND I ASKED FINALLY, I
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LEANED OVER TO SOMEONE WHO COULD
SPEAK ENGLISH AND I SAID, "WHAT
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IS THIS SONG?" OH, THAT'S
JESUS LOVES ME THIS I KNOW.
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OH REALLY.
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AND I DIDN'T
RECOGNIZE IT AT ALL.
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IT WAS A COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT MELODY AND EVERYTHING.
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YES.
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BUT HAPPY PEOPLE.
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HAPPY PEOPLE AND THEY ARE VERY
ENTHUSIASTIC I'VE FOUND TOO.
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ESPECIALLY IN INDIA WHICH IS
PART OF MY TERRITORY AS WELL AS
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SRI LANKA, THEY ARE VERY
ENTHUSIASTIC AND WHEN YOU GET
THE GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS
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TOGETHER-THEY SING THEIR HEARTS
OUT AND THEY JUST SING LUSTILY
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AND THEY ENJOY IT AND IT IS VERY
INSPIRING TO LISTEN TO THEM.
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WHAT'S IT LIKE BEING WITH A
GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOSPEL
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OUTREACH WORKERS? WELL, WE HAD
THAT EXPERIENCE THIS YEAR AND
ACTUALLY THE THREE -TWO OF
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THE WORKERS IN SRI LANKA SPEAK
TAMIL LANGUAGE AND WHEN WE HAD
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OUR MEETINGS IN INDIA WE HAVE
ALTOGETHER ABOUT 140 WORKERS IN
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INDIA-WE INVITED THE TWO FELLOWS
FROM SRI LANKA TO COME OVER TO
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INDIA. MY WIFE AND I ARRANGED
THE TRANSPORTATION AND SO ON.
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THEY JOINED IN WITH A THIRD
GROUP OF WHICH WE HAD ABOUT 95
00:11:34.02\00:11:38.63
WORKERS THERE SO IT WAS GREAT
FELLOWSHIP FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY
ARE PRETTY ISOLATED,SURE, AND
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SO TO HAVE THEM COME AND JOIN
WITH THE INDIAN WORKERS AND WE
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HAD THREE DAYS OF MEETINGS-IT
WAS A GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR THEM,
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I THINK. WHAT DO YOU DO
IN THREE DAYS OF MEETINGS?
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WELL, WE HAVE LECTURES.
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I GAVE FOUR LECTURES ON BASIC
BIBLE DOCTRINE-ON CHEMISTRY?
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NO, NO NOTE CHEMISTY-
BASIC BIBLE DOCTRINES.
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MY WIFE GAVE TWO-SHE USED
THE "SHARE HIM PROGRAM" VERY
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SUCCESSFUL. RIGHT.
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AND THEN THEY EACH, THE MISSION
PRESIDENTS HAD PRESENTATIONS AND
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GOSPEL OUTREACH SECTION LEADER
WHO IS FROM THE DIVISION-THE
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SOUTHERN ASIA DIVISION, HE HAD
SEVERAL LECTURES SO WE FILLED IT
UP WITH LECTURES FROM
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VARIOUS PERSONS AND OURSELVES
AND WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THE
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MOST HELPFUL THING.
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SO- WHAT I BELIEVE; HOW TO
COMMUNICATE THAT, THAT'S RIGHT,
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HOW TO FIT IT INTO THE CULTURE;
HOW TO DEAL WITH THE MUSLIMS;
HOW TO DEAL WITH THE HINDUS; HOW
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TO WORK WITH
THESE VARIOUS PEOPLE.
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SO THESE MEN WERE
INVOLVED WITH THAT.
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I WAS PLEASED THAT
THEY COULD COME OVER.
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SO WHEN I GIVE MONEY THEN TO
SUPPORT A GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKER
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IN INDIA, SRI LANKA I CAN KNOW
THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE
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DOING? YES, I THINK YOU CAN.
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THEY ARE NOT HIGHLY EDUCATED.
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THEY ARE 8TH GRADE AT LEAST,
MAYBE HIGH SCHOOL, 10 GRADES OF
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EDUCATION BUT THEY KNOW THEIR
BIBLES PRETTY WELL AND I'M
IMPRESSED WITH THEM.
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I THINK THEY ARE PRETTY
GOOD GUYS AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE
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PEOPLE TO SUPPORT GOSPEL
OUTREACH AND TO GIVE FUNDS
BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST
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THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO.
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TAKE US BACK TO YOUR VIDEO.
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ALRIGHT.
00:13:08.92\00:13:09.88
WE'LL GO BACK
TO THE VIDEO AGAIN.
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WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SCENE-
THE FOOD, THE FOOD WILL END HERE
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IN A MOMENT BUT WE -THIS IS IN
THE TEA PLANTATIONS IN THE
COUNTRY OF INDIA AND YOU CAN SEE
00:13:18.99\00:13:24.07
THE SCENERY THERE AS WE ARE
DRIVING ALONG-WAY UP HIGH
BECAUSE THE TEA GROWS
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WELL IN THE HIGH ELEVATIONS.
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SO WE ARE GOING TO VISIT A
CHURCH WHERE A GOSPEL OUTREACH
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WORKER'S NAME IS MICHAEL-NOW
WE'RE NOT IN SRI LANKA ANYMORE?
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WE'RE IN SRI LANKA -WE'RE STILL
IN SRI LANKA, WE STILL ARE.
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WE ARE STILL IN SRI LANKA.
00:13:39.58\00:13:40.98
THIS IS MICHAEL, THIS IS OUR
GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKER, OK, AND
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HE HAD SEVEN
PEOPLE READY FOR BAPTISM.
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WE, THAT'S REALLY EXCITING,
THAT WAS EXCITING TO US AND THE
00:13:46.15\00:13:50.03
PREVIOUS BAPTISM THERE
WERE 20 SO IT WAS VERY GOOD.
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AGAIN THEY HAD A WELCOME THEY
HAD A LITTLE SERVICE AND MICHAEL
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IS WELCOMING PEOPLE WITH HIS
WIFE AND HERE WAS THE GROUP-THEY
HAD TO RENT A HALL BECAUSE
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HE DIDN'T HAVE A CHURCH.
00:14:01.37\00:14:02.77
SO HE'S WORKING WITHOUT A
CHURCH AND WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A
00:14:02.80\00:14:06.27
CHURCH. SO YOU NOTICE
SOME CLAPPING AND SINGING
00:14:06.31\00:14:09.14
HERE-TYPICAL. I'M
LOOKING FOR THE TAMBOURINE.
00:14:09.18\00:14:10.61
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY
HAVE A TAMBOURINE IN THIS ONE.
00:14:10.65\00:14:12.75
BUT ANYWAY, HERE THEY HAD THE
CANDIDATES, THE SEVEN CANDIDATES
00:14:12.78\00:14:18.69
STANDING UP AND THEY
WERE DOING THEIR VOWS.
00:14:18.72\00:14:21.06
SO THEY COULD, HE READ THE VOWS
AND THEY RAISED THEIR HAND THAT
00:14:21.09\00:14:25.83
-YES, I AGREE WITH
THIS DOCTRINE AND SO ON.
00:14:25.86\00:14:27.66
SO THIS WENT ON, THERE THEY ARE
RAISING THEIR HANDS NOW AND HERE
00:14:27.73\00:14:31.57
WAS THE RIVER AGAIN,
SORT OF A MUDDY LITTLE RIVER.
00:14:31.60\00:14:34.30
THEY ARE PROBING TO FIND A SPOT
THAT WAS DEEP ENOUGH BECAUSE THE
00:14:34.34\00:14:37.44
RIVER WASN'T VERY DEEP AND
PASTOR WAMBEK WHO IS THE MISSION
PRESIDENT SAID NOW THEY'VE
00:14:37.47\00:14:42.04
FOUND A PLACE AND
THEY HAD THE BAPTISM.
00:14:42.08\00:14:44.88
WOW.
00:14:44.91\00:14:46.31
SO THERE WAS AS I SAID SEVEN
PERSONS BAPTIZED HERE- I THOUGHT
00:14:46.35\00:14:50.55
HE WAS CHASING AWAY THE
CROCODILE- NO HE WASN'T.
00:14:50.59\00:14:53.62
THEY HAD A WORD OF PRAYER AT THE
END OF THE VIDEO THERE AND SO IT
00:14:53.66\00:14:58.09
WAS A VERY NICE SCENE AND I WAS
PLEASED THAT THE MISSION
PRESIDENT COULD BE THERE
00:14:58.13\00:15:01.50
TO DO THE BAPTISMS BECAUSE
PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS ANOTHER
00:15:01.53\00:15:05.43
PERSON DOING IT. HERE WE ARE
LEAVING THE CITY AND WE ARE
HEADING BACK DOWN TO -ACTUALLY
00:15:05.47\00:15:10.47
WE ARE GOING TO LAKPAHANA
TRAINING SCHOOL BUT THERE WAS
00:15:10.51\00:15:14.64
QUITE A ROAD SLIDE HERE AND WE
FOR THE NEXT DAY, THEY HAD
ANOTHER EARTHQUAKE AND RAIN AND
00:15:14.68\00:15:18.25
THE ROAD WAS CLOSED
FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
00:15:18.28\00:15:20.48
SO YOU BARELY SLIPPED THROUGH.
00:15:20.52\00:15:21.62
WE JUST SLIPPED THROUGH
AND WERE GLAD TO GET THERE.
00:15:21.65\00:15:24.69
SO WE ARE ON OUR WAY THEN
AND THEN THIS IS THE LAKPAHANA
00:15:24.72\00:15:28.76
TRAING SCHOOL. THIS IS NOT
REALLY PART OF MY RESPONSIBILITY
BUT IT'S THE ONLY TRAINING
00:15:28.79\00:15:32.96
SCHOOL WHICH THEY HAVE FOR
TRAINING MINISTERS IN SRI LANKA.
00:15:32.99\00:15:38.00
SO IT IS AN IMPORTANT THING AND
HERE IS THE PRINCIPAL WITH SOME
00:15:38.03\00:15:40.77
OF THE SCHOOL KIDS.
00:15:40.80\00:15:42.20
THEY HAD A LITTLE PARTY FOR THEM
AND HE WAS GREETING THEM AND
00:15:42.24\00:15:46.34
SAYING HELLO TO THE KIDS.
00:15:46.37\00:15:48.68
THE KIDS ARE THE SAME
EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
00:15:48.71\00:15:51.48
THEY ARE THE SAME AND THEY LOVE
IT AND THIS FELLOW WAS A RETIRED
00:15:51.51\00:15:55.45
ADMINISTRATOR IN
THE HOSPITAL SYSTEM.
00:15:55.48\00:15:57.45
HE WAS IN SRI LANKA YEARS AGO AS
A PRINCIPAL OF THAT SCHOOL AND
00:15:57.49\00:16:01.02
THEN THEY CALLED
HIM TO COME BACK.
00:16:01.06\00:16:02.56
THEY SAID THEY NEEDED HIS HELP
SO HE'S GONE BACK FOR A COUPLE
00:16:02.59\00:16:05.23
OF YEARS AND SO HE
IS DOING A GOOD WORK.
00:16:05.26\00:16:06.63
SO THAT WAS GOOD AND THE FELLOW
HAPPENS TO BE MY WIFE'S COUSIN
00:16:06.66\00:16:09.83
TOO. MY LANDS.
00:16:09.86\00:16:10.90
HIS WIFE IS THE WIFE'S COUSIN.
00:16:10.93\00:16:12.10
SO THIS IS A GOOD
CIRCLE-A GOOD CIRCLE.
00:16:12.13\00:16:14.34
SO THAT WAS OUR EXPERIENCE SO
WE HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE IN SRI
00:16:14.37\00:16:18.24
LANKA AND AGAIN I ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE TO SUPPORT GOSPEL
OUTREACH BECAUSE I THINK
00:16:18.27\00:16:22.44
IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT MISSION.
00:16:22.48\00:16:24.91
NOW YOU'VE DONE
THIS FOR FOUR YEARS.
00:16:24.95\00:16:26.92
FOUR YEARS.
00:16:26.95\00:16:27.78
HOW HAS THAT
IMPROVED YOUR RETIREMENT?
00:16:27.82\00:16:29.98
IT HASN'T CHANGED
MY RETIREMENT A BIT.
00:16:30.02\00:16:31.99
IN FACT, I MAY BE BEHIND WHERE
I WAS BECAUSE WE PAY SOME OF OUR
00:16:32.02\00:16:35.99
OWN EXPENSES AND WE HAVE SOME
HELP GETTING THERE BUT THEN I
HAD TO PAY TO BRING ALL
00:16:36.02\00:16:39.89
THE WORKERS IN; I HAD PAID TO
BRING THE TWO FELLOWS OVER FROM
00:16:39.93\00:16:45.03
SRI LANKA AND SO IT
COSTS US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.
00:16:45.07\00:16:47.04
SO IT'S AN INVESTMENT FOR YOU?
00:16:47.07\00:16:48.50
IT'S AN INVESTMENT FOR ME BUT
WE'RE GLAD TO DO IT BECAUSE WE
00:16:48.54\00:16:51.61
WANT TO BE INVOLVED.
00:16:51.64\00:16:53.07
I DON'T WANT TO BE AT HOME
SITTING AND WATCHING TELEVISION
00:16:53.11\00:16:54.91
ALL DAY LONG. I WANT TO DO
SOMETHING FOR THE LORD IF I
POSSIBLY CAN AND THIS GIVES ME
00:16:54.94\00:17:01.18
AN OUTLET.
00:17:01.22\00:17:02.18
SO THAT'S WHY I'M DOING IT.
00:17:02.22\00:17:03.75
YOUR RETIREMENT EXPERIENCE THEN
FOR BOTH YOU AND YOUR WIFE IS
00:17:03.79\00:17:07.16
MORE AND MORE CENTERED AROUND
THIS KIND OF SERVICE, THAT'S
RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.
00:17:07.19\00:17:10.33
WE WERE MISSIONARIES IN THE
OLD FAR EASTERN DIVISION FOR A
00:17:10.36\00:17:13.43
NUMBER OF YEARS AND WE KIND OF
MISSED THE FAR EAST AND MISSED
00:17:13.46\00:17:17.37
THE MISSION FIELD AND MISSED ALL
OF THIS SORT OF THING SO WHEN WE
HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
00:17:17.40\00:17:20.14
JOIN GOSPEL OUTREACH WE SAID,
"THIS WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
00:17:20.17\00:17:23.20
WE ARE BACK."
00:17:23.24\00:17:24.21
WE'RE BACK AGAIN.
00:17:24.24\00:17:25.21
WE'RE BACK AGAIN.
00:17:25.24\00:17:26.21
SO TAKE ME TO SRI LANKA.
00:17:26.24\00:17:27.71
I HAVE READ, YOU KNOW, A LOT
ABOUT THE WAR, THE REBELS AND
00:17:27.74\00:17:32.65
HOW THEY BOMBED EACH OTHER.
00:17:34.88\00:17:37.22
HAS THE CHURCH
SUFFERED FROM THAT?
00:17:37.25\00:17:39.22
APPARENTLY NOT TOO SERIOUSLY
I WASN'T AWARE OF ANY CHURCHES
00:17:39.25\00:17:41.99
THAT WERE BOMBED OUT OR ANYTHING
BUT THEY SEEMED TO HAVE SETTLED
00:17:42.02\00:17:45.19
THINGS PRETTY WELL.
00:17:45.23\00:17:46.49
THERE IS STILL IN SRI LANKA
THERE IS SOME ANIMOSITY TOWARDS
00:17:46.53\00:17:51.80
CHRISTIANS.
00:17:51.83\00:17:52.80
WE HAVE A CHURCH WHERE
THE FIRST INTERVIEW WAS.
00:17:52.83\00:17:57.47
THEY BUILT-THEY STARTED TO BUILD
A CHURCH-THEY GOT THE
FOUNDATIONS BUILT AND
00:17:57.51\00:18:01.78
THE POLICE AND THE LOCAL
BUDDHIST PRIEST CAME OUT AND
THEY SAID, "YOU'RE NOT
00:18:01.81\00:18:05.58
BUILDING ANYMORE."
00:18:05.61\00:18:06.51
AND THEY HAVE
GIVEN UP THE PROJECT NOW.
00:18:06.55\00:18:08.55
REALLY.
00:18:08.58\00:18:10.05
THEY'VE GIVEN IT UP AND SO
WE HOPE THAT THEY CAN GET THAT
00:18:10.09\00:18:12.32
STARTED AGAIN. I HOPE THAT THIS
NEW FELLOW WILL HAVE A FRESH
POINT OF VIEW AND CAN DO
00:18:12.35\00:18:15.79
SOMETHING TO HELP BUT AS FAR AS
THE WAR, I THINK THEY ARE PRETTY
00:18:15.82\00:18:20.80
WELL PAST THAT WAR NOW.
00:18:20.83\00:18:22.06
SO TAKE ME FOR JUST A MINUTE
ACROSS THE STRAIT INTO INDIA.
00:18:22.10\00:18:26.80
YES.
00:18:26.84\00:18:27.80
JUST FOR ME.
00:18:27.84\00:18:29.34
IF YOU COULD TAKE ME ON YOUR-IF
I COULD BE IN SEAT 3 OR A,B,C
00:18:29.37\00:18:34.01
AND YOU COULD TAKE ME TO THAT
PART OF INDIA WHERE WOULD YOU
TAKE ME THAT WOULD HELP ME BE
00:18:36.54\00:18:40.92
REALLY IMPRESSED WITH
GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS?
00:18:40.95\00:18:43.32
CHENNAI CHENNAI?
00:18:43.35\00:18:44.52
I'D TAKE YOU TO CHENNAI.
00:18:44.55\00:18:46.69
WE HAVE ABOUT 27 GOSPEL OUTREACH
WORKERS IN THE CITY OF CHENNAI,
00:18:46.72\00:18:50.83
IN THE CITY?
00:18:50.86\00:18:51.83
IN THE CITY AND
IT'S A HUGE CITY.
00:18:51.86\00:18:53.80
IT'S HUGE, DICK.
00:18:53.83\00:18:56.10
IT'S HUGE.
00:18:56.13\00:18:57.63
I DON'T HAVE A PICTURE HERE BUT
IT IS A HUGE CITY AND THEY ARE
00:18:57.67\00:19:01.34
DIVIDED INTO THREE TEAMS OF 8
WORKERS ON EACH WORKERS, THAT'S
24 WORKERS AND THEN THEY HAVE
00:19:01.37\00:19:05.54
THREE
SUPERVISORS-ONE FOR EACH TEAM.
00:19:05.57\00:19:07.84
AND THEY GO OUT EVERY DAY AND
THEY GO DOOR TO DOOR AND THEY
00:19:07.88\00:19:12.48
MEET PEOPLE, THEY PASS OUT
LITERATURE AND THEY DO
EVANGELISM AND THEY ARE
00:19:12.51\00:19:16.28
BAPTIZING REGULARLY IN CHENNAI.
00:19:16.32\00:19:17.32
IT'S AN IMPRESSIVE-IT'S
JUST GROW, GROW, GROW.
00:19:17.35\00:19:19.82
AND THEY HAVE DEVELOPED AN
ENTIRE SECTION JUST IN THE CITY
OF CHENNAI FROM THE
00:19:19.85\00:19:24.53
WORKERS OF GOSPEL OUTREACH.
00:19:24.56\00:19:26.13
REALLY?
00:19:26.16\00:19:27.13
THE WHOLE SECTION IS
JUST FROM GOSPEL OUTREACH.
00:19:27.20\00:19:29.30
AND IT'S NOT LIKE THAT'S 12
PEOPLE EITHER, THAT'S CHURCH
00:19:29.33\00:19:32.80
AFTER CHURCH AFTER CHURCH, YES,
AS YOU GO DOWN THE -YES, THEY
WOULD ALSO LIKE -THEY ARE
00:19:32.83\00:19:35.84
APPEALING FOR MONEY FOR
ANOTHER CHURCH, OF COURSE.
00:19:35.87\00:19:38.31
ALWAYS.
00:19:38.34\00:19:39.31
ALWAYS.
00:19:39.34\00:19:40.78
THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE LEARNED IS
THAT ONCE YOU BAPTIZE A BUNCH OF
00:19:40.81\00:19:43.21
PEOPLE THEY WANT A
BUILDING TO SING PRAISES IN.
00:19:43.24\00:19:45.21
THAT'S RIGHT THEY WANT A
BUILDING AND AN ADVENTIST
MINISTER WAS OVER THERE
00:19:45.25\00:19:48.88
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I WON'T
MENTION THE NAME RIGHT NOW, HE
00:19:48.92\00:19:53.62
BAPTIZED ABOUT 50 PEOPLE
AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A
00:19:53.66\00:19:55.76
CHURCH THERE. SO CHENNAI IS A
VERY, IT'S A - I DON'T LIKE TO
USE THIS TERM AGAIN BUT IT'S A
00:19:55.79\00:20:00.86
BAPTISMAL MACHINE ALMOST BECAUSE
THEY ARE SO SUCCESSFUL IN
00:20:03.63\00:20:07.34
BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THE CHURCH
AND THEY WORK VERY FAITHFULLY.
00:20:07.37\00:20:11.37
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GOSPEL
OUTREACH WORKERS THERE, YOU SEE
00:20:11.41\00:20:16.78
A POWER PACKED EVANGELISM TEAM,
YES, THAT ISN'T JUST
EVANGELIZING AND LEAVING,
00:20:16.81\00:20:21.85
NO.
00:20:21.88\00:20:22.78
THEY ARE CONTINUING
TO WORK WITH PEOPLE.
00:20:22.82\00:20:24.85
THEY FOLLOW UP WITH THE PEOPLE
AND THEY INVITE THEM TO COME TO
00:20:24.89\00:20:27.42
THE LOCAL CHURCH AND
SO ITS' A GOOD THING.
00:20:27.46\00:20:29.46
WHEN YOU HAD ALL OF THOSE
WORKERS TOGETHER FOR THE THREE
AND FOUR DAYS, YES,
00:20:29.49\00:20:33.53
WHAT KIND OF
QUESTIONS DID THEY ASK?
00:20:33.56\00:20:37.30
YOU KNOW, I DON'T UNDERSTAND
THE LANGUAGE SO I HAVE TROUBLE
00:20:37.33\00:20:40.67
ANSWERING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE
I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE
DIALOGUE THAT WENT ON BUT
00:20:40.70\00:20:45.57
THEY TOOK NOTES.
00:20:45.61\00:20:47.11
THEY HAD THEIR NOTEBOOKS, THEY
HAD THEIR PENCIL AND PAPER AND
00:20:47.14\00:20:49.28
THEY TOOK NOTES AND WE'RE
HOPEFUL THAT THEY RECEIVED
SOMETHING WHICH WOULD BE OF HELP
00:20:49.31\00:20:53.72
TO THEM IN THEIR MINISTRY.
00:20:53.75\00:20:55.45
AND ONE OF THE KEY
THINGS IS THE "HOW TO".
00:20:55.48\00:20:57.45
HOW TO APPROACH PEOPLE, YES.
00:20:57.49\00:20:58.95
HOW DO YOU DO IT.? HOW TO
APPROACH PEOPLE WHO ARE HINDU.
00:20:58.99\00:21:01.02
HOW DO YOU APPROACH PEOPLE
WHO ARE BUDDHIST OR MUSLIM?
00:21:01.06\00:21:03.02
THAT'S RIGHT.
00:21:03.06\00:21:03.89
AND IN CHENNAI
YOU'VE GOT ALL THREE.
00:21:03.93\00:21:06.03
THAT'S RIGHT.
00:21:06.06\00:21:07.46
YOU'VE GOT ALL THREE PRETTY WELL
THROUGH THE SOUTH BUT YOU KNOW
00:21:07.50\00:21:09.56
THE APOSTLE THOMAS WENT TO
CHENNAI WHEN HE LEFT THE HOLY
LAND, NOW THIS WOULD
00:21:09.60\00:21:14.97
BE DOUBTING THOMAS, DOUBTING
THOMAS OK, HE CAME TO CHENNAI
00:21:15.00\00:21:19.41
AND HE WORKED THERE IN CHENNAI
UNTIL AND ESTABLISHED THE
CHRISTIAN RELIGION.
00:21:19.44\00:21:24.45
SO CHENNAI IS MORE OF A
CHRISTIAN AREA BECAUSE THOMAS
00:21:24.48\00:21:28.58
WAS THERE. NOW THOMAS WAS
ASSASINATED AND THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH HAS BUILT A CHURCH AT THE
00:21:28.62\00:21:34.92
SITE WHERE HE WAS ASSASINATED,
RIGHT, AND THEY HAVE QUITE
00:21:34.96\00:21:37.69
-MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN THERE I DON'T
KNOW- BUT'S QUITE AN IMPRESSIVE
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THING AND I
APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THOMAS.
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IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING TO
GO TO A PLACE LIKE THAT AND KNOW
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THAT YOU'RE ONE STEP FROM JESUS.
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THAT'S RIGHT, THAT IF HISTORY IS
TRUE AT ALL THOMAS DID COME TO
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INDIA AND HE EVANGELIZE IT.
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YES, HE DID DIE RIGHT HERE.
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HE DID, HE DID.
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IT'S IMPRESSIVE TO DO THAT IN
INDIA, RIGHT THERE, SO FAR FROM
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PALESTINE, I KNOW, SO HE WAS
THE ONLY ONE I UNDERSTOOD THAT
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REALLY LEFT THE
PALESTINIAN AREA.
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RIGHT.
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HE TOOK A BOAT AND HE WENT OUT
AND HE -YOU HAVE TO HAND IT TO
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THE MAN, HE WAS A REAL CRUSADER.
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HE WASN'T A
DOUBTER AT THAT POINT.
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NO, NOT A DOUBTER.
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YOU'RE NOT A DOUBTER
ABOUT GOSPEL OUTREACH, NO.
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YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE
WHO SAYS, "YES, I WORKED HERE
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BUT IT'S NOT
REALLY WORKING VERY WELL."
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YOU'RE ONE WHO SAYS, "NO."
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.
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NO I DON'T SAY THAT.
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I WORK HERE AND IT'S
WORKING, IT'S WORKING.
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GOSPEL OUTREACH IS WORKING WELL.
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WHY?
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WHAT IS ITS GREATEST
-WHAT'S THE DRIVING FORCE?
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I THINK ONE OF THE DRIVING
FORCES IS THE FACT THAT THE
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LEADERSHIP IS ALL VOLUNTEER.
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WE'RE ALL HERE BECAUSE WE
HAVE A BURDEN FOR THE WORK.
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WE'RE NOT HERE TO EARN A SALARY.
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WE'RE NOT HERE FOR SOMETHING
ELSE WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE WANT
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TO SEE THE LORD'S WORK FINISHED
AND THE REGIONAL DIRECTORS GO TO
THEIR FIELD ONCE A YEAR
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AND WE SPEND ANYWHERE FROM A
FEW WEEKS TO-I WAS OVERSEAS FOR
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NEARLY SIX WEEKS THIS TIME AND
IT TAKES A TIME COMMITMENT AND
SO I THINK THAT PEOPLE
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WHO WANT TO HELP IN MISSIONS
THERE'S REALLY NO BETTER THING
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TO DO THAN TO HELP GOSPEL
OUTREACH BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD
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THING. IT'S A VERY
GOOD FIELD OF LABOR.
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WELL, I FIND YOU
TOTALL COMMITTED.
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YES, I'M COMMITTED.
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NOW AS AN ACADEMIC DEAN,
AS A DEPARTMENT CHAIR AND AS A
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CHEMISTRY TEACHER, RIGHT, YOU IN
MY EXPERIENCE ARE A VERY LEFT
BRAINED PERSON, YES; YOU
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LIKE THINGS IN LISTS AND
SPECIFIC AND THE FORMULA WILL
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WORK. WHAT'S THE FORMULA THAT
MAKES GOSPEL WORKERS A SUCCESS
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IN INDIA? I THINK FIRST OF ALL,
THEY HAVE TO TRUST IN THE LORD
AND THEY HAVE TO BE
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GROUNDED IN THE FAITH.
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SO THAT'S THE FOUNDATION.
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I THINK THE FOUNDATION IS TRUST
THE LORD AND BEING WILLING TO
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FOLLOW HIS
LEADING AND DO HIS WILL.
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THAT'S THE FIRST THING AND
EVERYBODY THAT'S A GOSPEL
OUTREACH WORKER NEEDS TO
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BE A COMMITTED SEVENTH
DAY ADVENTIST CHRISTIAN.
00:23:50.66\00:23:52.96
THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL THING.
00:23:52.99\00:23:53.96
THAT'S SQUARE ONE.
00:23:54.00\00:23:54.93
THAT'S SQUARE ONE.
00:23:54.96\00:23:56.46
THE SECOND THING IS NOT BEING
AFRAID TO GO OUT AND VISIT YOUR
00:23:56.50\00:23:59.70
FRIENDS AND OTHERS AND GIVE
OUT LITERATURE, INVITE PEOPLE TO
00:23:59.73\00:24:02.70
MEETINGS. NOW YOU ARE
ASKING PEOPLE TO CHANGE THEIR
00:24:02.74\00:24:05.64
PERSONALITIES. THAT'S RIGHT,
BUT THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES THOUGH.
00:24:05.67\00:24:08.28
THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE I
THINK DO THAT REALLY QUITE WELL.
00:24:08.31\00:24:11.65
OK, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO KNOW
SOMETHING SO YOUR NOT JUST
-THAT'S RIGHT AND SO
00:24:11.68\00:24:15.58
THAT'S WHERE WE CAME IN WITH THE
MEETINGS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO
00:24:15.62\00:24:19.69
GIVE THEM SOME BACKGROUND
TRAINING BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE
00:24:19.72\00:24:24.29
BACKGROUND WAS BUT WE THINK
IT IS PROBABLY LIMITED AND I'VE
00:24:24.33\00:24:27.66
BEEN TOLD THAT THEY REALLY DON'T
HAVE A VERY DEEP KNOWLEDGE OF
00:24:27.66\00:24:31.63
MANY SUBJECTS. SO THAT WAS PART
OF THE PURPOSE OF THAT, THE
MEETINGS THAT WE HAD TO
00:24:31.67\00:24:35.87
TRY TO GET GROUNDED IN THE
28 FUNDAMENTAL DOCTRINES OF THE
00:24:35.90\00:24:40.34
SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH.
00:24:40.38\00:24:42.44
DID YOU FIND IT EASY TO TALK
TO THEM ABOUT CONCEPT OF GRACE?
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WELL YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE
THE LANGUAGE PROBLEM-I HAVE THE
00:24:47.52\00:24:52.55
LANGUAGE PROBLEM EVERYTHING I
DID HAD TO BE TRANSLATED AND I
WAS FORTUNATE TO HAVE
00:24:55.39\00:24:59.49
TRANSLATORS WHO COULD DO
THAT AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE JUST
00:24:59.53\00:25:03.20
WHISPERING IN YOUR EAR AND
SAYING BY THE WAY THAT'S WHAT
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
00:25:03.23\00:25:05.93
WELL, I HAD TO TRUST THAT THEY
WERE DOING -TRANSLATING WHAT I
00:25:05.97\00:25:10.14
SAID BUT THE CONCEPT OF GRACE-
ACTUALLY I DIDN'T REALLY TALK
ABOUT GRACE TOO MUCH.
00:25:10.17\00:25:15.24
I TALKED ABOUT THE
CHANGE OF THE SABBATH DAY.
00:25:17.38\00:25:19.65
I TALKED ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN
BEHAVIOR-CHRISTIAN BELIEFS
00:25:19.68\00:25:22.82
AND SO ON AND OTHER FUNDAMENTAL
DOCTRINES OF THE SEVENTH DAY
00:25:22.85\00:25:26.62
ADVENTIST CHURCH.
00:25:26.65\00:25:28.09
I FEEL THE GRACE CONCEPT IS
A VERY IMPORTANT CONCEPT BUT
00:25:28.12\00:25:31.96
THAT'S NOT ONE
WHICH I WAS LECTURING ON.
00:25:31.99\00:25:33.23
YES.
00:25:33.26\00:25:34.73
I WAS- I HAVE BEEN TO CHENNAI
AND ONE TIME I WAS IN THE
00:25:34.76\00:25:39.83
MISSION, THE UNION PRESIDENT'S
HOUSE, YES IN CHENNAI AND ATE A
MEAL THAT HIS WIFE HAD PREPARED
00:25:39.87\00:25:46.17
FOR ME AND MY WIFE - IT WAS
FASCINATING TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT
00:25:46.21\00:25:50.81
WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH
GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS.
00:25:50.85\00:25:52.81
OH REALLY!
00:25:52.85\00:25:53.78
YES.
00:25:53.82\00:25:55.35
AND HIS COMMENT WAS WE MEET
JESUS EVERYDAY IN THE STREETS OF
00:25:55.38\00:25:59.05
CHENNAI WHEN WE MEET THE GOSPEL
OUTREACH WORKERS, THAT'S RIGHT,
00:25:59.09\00:26:04.23
THEY LOVE PEOPLE. YES.
00:26:08.80\00:26:11.77
THAT TRACKS WITH WHAT YOU KNOW.
00:26:11.80\00:26:12.90
THAT'S RIGHT, THEY DO.
00:26:12.93\00:26:14.74
WHAT A PRIVILEGE
AND THAT IS WHAT I KNOW.
00:26:14.77\00:26:18.84
WHERE GOD REALLY WANTS PEOPLE
TO UNDERSTAND HIM BETTER AND IT
00:26:18.87\00:26:22.58
SEEMS LIKE HE'S FINDING A WAY TO
SEND SOME GOSPEL OUTREACH
WORKERS MANY OF THEM ARE
00:26:22.61\00:26:26.92
PEOPLE YOU'VE
PERSONALLY SPONSORED.
00:26:26.95\00:26:28.92
KEEP IT UP.
00:26:28.95\00:26:34.02
[CLOSING MUSIC].
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