Participants: George Johnson
Series Code: AIM
Program Code: AIM000488
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00:22 HELLO, GOOD FRIENDS OF GOSPEL OUTREACH. 00:25 I GET TO BE IN THE STUDIOS OF GOSPEL OUTREACH IN COLLEGE PLACE, WASHINGTON 00:32 TODAY. 00:34 THIS IS WHERE ALL OF THE PROGRAMS REALLY, OF GOSPEL OUTREACH ARE PRODUCED AND 00:39 HERE IN COLLEGE PLACE IN OCTOBER OF 2013. 00:45 I GIVE YOU THAT CLARIFICATION JUST IN CASE WE TALK ABOUT TIMES AND 00:50 PLACES SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT'S HAPPENING. 00:59 STORIES OF WHERE THEYEET HAVE BEEN WORKING, WHOPELLLTRTRR THEY HAVE SEEN AND WHAT'S 01:04 HAPPENING ON THE FRONT LINE OF GOD'S MINISTRY IN THE 21ST CENTURY. 01:09 TODAY I GET TO WELCOME AGAIN MY DEAR FRIEND GEORGE JOHNSON. 01:13 WELCOME, GEORGE. 01:14 THANK YOU. 01:15 GOD BLESS YOU, BROTHER. 01:16 ALWAYS HAPPY TO BE WHERE GEORGE IS BECAUSE GOD HAS BLEST HIM WITH SUCH AN 01:23 EXCITING,INTERESTING, DYNAMIC MINISTRY AND THEREFORE TO HAVE YOU AS A 01:30 PART OF GOSPEL OUTREACH AND TO TELL WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR PART OF 01:34 THE WORLD FIELD IS VERY, VERY INSPIRING AND ENCOURAGING TO US, GEORGE. 01:38 BUT I'M GOING TO GO TO THE HUMAN LEVEL HERE. 01:43 THESE SHIRTS YOU WEAR ARE SO COMFORTABLE LOOKING. 01:48 I KNOW ABOUT THE BATIK SHIRT, I'VE SEEN YOU IN BEFORE AND YOU'VE GOT 01:52 SEVERAL OF THOSE PROBABLY TOO, BUT TELL US ABOUT THE SHIRT TODAY. 01:57 THIS IS FROM THE PHILIPPINES. 01:59 IT IS CALLED A BARONG. 02:01 REALLY THE FULL NAME IS BARONG TAGALOG AND its OFFICIAL WEAR. 02:06 A PASTOR WOULD USE THIS FOR PREACHING. 02:08 HIS CONGREGANTS WOULD USE THIS. 02:10 THE PRESIDENT OF THE PHILIPPINES WOULD USE THE BARONG WHEN HE SPEAKS TO 02:13 THE NATION ON TELEVISION. 02:15 THEY LOOK SO COMFORTABLE. 02:17 THEY ARE. 02:18 M A LITTLE ENVIOUS, ACTUALLY TO SEE YOU THERE. 02:21 AT ANY RATE, IT IS JUST GOOD TO BE WITH YOU AND TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR 02:27 EXPERIENCE WITH GOGOEL OUTREACH AND IT'S KIND OF MAYBE A THROW AWAY 02:32 QUESTION TO START WITH BUT GEORGE, GIVE ME HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT GOSPEL 02:39 OUTREACH? 02:40 I TOTALLY SUPPORT IT. 02:42 GOSPEL OUTREACH NUMBER ONE IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS GOD'S CHURCH 02:49 WHOLEHEARTEDLY. 02:51 EVERYONE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES IS A VOLUNTEER. 02:54 THERE IS NO OVERHEAD TO SPEAK OFF, EXCEPT OFFICE EXPENSE OR THE TRAVEL OF A 03:00 FEW PEOPLE. 03:02 SECONDLY, GOSPEL OUTREACH HAS A CONCEPT THAT THEY USE THAT IS FAR SUPERIOR 03:10 TO OTHER MISSION ENDEAVORS AND THAT IS TO USE FUNDING FROM THE WEST AND TO 03:17 TRANSLATE THAT INTO EFFORT OVERSEAS THAT IS NATIONAL EFFORT WHICH MEANS THAT 03:23 YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE, WHO KNOW THE CULTURE, WHO KNOW HOW TO 03:28 EAK TO AND TO COMMUNICATE WITH LOCAL PEOPLE IN THEIR RELIGIOUS, 03:33 IN THEIR CULTURAL, IN THEIR LOCAL SETTING. 03:36 YET IT IS BEING PAID FOR OUT OF HARD CURRENCY OFTEN, SO THAT THE WORK 03:41 CAN PROGRESS OVERSEAS. 03:43 WHAT YOU REALLY EXPLAINED WITH THAT GEORGE, IS THE SO CALLED DOLLAR GOES SO 03:50 MUCH FARTHER, VERY FAR, WHEN IT IS INVESTED WITH THE LOCAL ECONOMY, WITH 03:57 THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WHO ALREADY FIT IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. 04:01 NOW, I WAS GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE RELATIVE TO THIS. 04:09 IN USING THOSE 04:09 LOCAL WORKERS, HOW DO WE FIND THEM? 04:13 HOW CAN THE DOLLAR THAT SOMEBODY SENDS HERE -WELL, WE KNOW HOW IT'S USED-BUT 04:20 HOW CAN THEY BE ASSURED IT IS GOING TO ACHIEVE THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH IT IS 04:25 GIVEN? 04:26 THE SELECTION PROCESS IS VERY IMPORTANT. 04:30 IN THE SELECTION PROCESS, WE WOULD TRY TO FIND OVERSEAS PEOPLE WHO HAD 04:36 TRAINING IN SOUL WINNING. 04:37 WE WOULD LOOK AT OUR COLLEGES FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE AREN'T ENOUGH 04:41 OPENINGS IN THE REGULAR WORK, WE WOULD TAKE YOUNG PEOPLE ON WITH DEGREES IN 04:47 THEOLOGY OR IN RELIGION WHO COULD DODOINISTRY. 04:50 OFTEN WHEN THE CHURCH ITSELF IS HIRING A WORKER, THEY WILL COME AND LOOK AT 04:55 GOSPEL OUTREACH TO GET SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD EXPERIENCE IN THAT 04:59 EDUCATION BUT WE WILL ALSO PUT TO WORK, SOMETIMES THEY ARE EXPERIENCED 05:05 PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESIGNED, SOME OF OUR VERY BEST WORKERS ARE THOSE WHO PUT 05:10 IN A LIFE TIME OF SERVICE AND THEY KNOW THE SERVICE. 05:12 BUT WE WILL ALSO TAKE ELDERS AND OTHERS WHO ARE PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE 05:17 SOUL WINNERS. 05:18 SO THAT'S THE SELECTION. 05:19 NOW YOUR PARTICULAR ROLE AS WE CALL REGIONAL DIRECTORS, ARE MANY TIMES 05:29 INVITED TO GO TO REGIONS OF THE WORLD WHERE THEY ALREADY FIT, AS IN YOUR 05:36 CASE. 05:37 RIGHT. 05:38 YOU WERE I THINK YOU SAID, YOU WERE BORN IN INDIA BUT YOU WERE RAISED IN 05:41 PAKISTAN. 05:43 I WAS BORN IN INDIA, SPENT TIME IN PAKISTAN AND IN INDIA. 05:47 MY FATHER WAS WORKING AS A MISSIONARY OVERSEAS. 05:51 I WAS SIXTEEN HAVING ASSIMILATED THE LANGUAGE AND THE CULTURE AND SO 05:55 FORTH, WHEN I RETURNED TO THE UNITED STATES TO CONTINUE MY COLLEGE 05:59 EDUCATION. 06:01 I WAS TWENTY-FOUR WHEN I WENT OVERSEAS TO WORK FOR SIXTEEN YEARS IN PAKISTAN 06:06 AND THEN ANOTHER FOURTEEN IN SINGAPORE WHERE I SERVED THAILAND AND OTHER 06:11 SOUTHEAST ASIAN COUNTRIES. 06:12 SO, I SPENT A TOTAL OF SERVICE TIME OF THIRTY YEARS AND SOME FIFTEEN, 06:18 SIXTEEN YEARS OF CHILDHOOD TIME OVER THERE IN ASIA. 06:22 AND SO WHAT GOSPEL OUTREACH HAS ATTEMPTED TO DO IS FIND MORE GEORGE 06:27 JOHNSON'S WHO CAN RELATE MORE NATURALLY TO THE ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE ARE 06:35 RECRUITING GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS AND MAKING SURE ALL THE INVESTMENT IS 06:40 ACCOMPLISHING THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH IT IS GIVEN. 06:42 ACTUALLY, MANY OF THE GOSPEL OUTREACH COUNTRY DIRECTORS ARE EX-WORKERS, 06:47 MISSIONARIES WHO HAVE SERVED OVERSEAS AND COME BACK AND THEY STILL HAVE 06:53 THEIR HEARTS OVERSEAS. 06:55 WELL, I JUST WANTED TO PROBE YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT SO THAT OUR GOSPEL 07:03 OUTREACH AUDIENCE, OUR PEOPLE OUT THERE UNDERSTAND MORE OF HOW 07:08 THIS GOSPEL OUTREACH MINISTRY IS WORKING AND WHY, WHY IT IS SO 07:13 EFFECTIVE. 07:14 NOW, YOUR WORK IN PAKISTAN BECOMES VERY, VERY INTERESTING TO US BECAUSE 07:22 THERE IS PROBABLY NONE OF OUR OTHER GOSPEL OUTREACH REGIONS THAT IS IN THE 07:29 NEWS ANYMORE THAN YOUR FIELD IS. 07:33 AND WE HAVE CONCERN, HOW ARE THE GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS DOING AND WHAT'S 07:39 REALLY HAPPENING? 07:40 YOU AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES TO THE WORK IN 07:48 OTHER PROGRAMS BUT A COUPLE OF DIMENSIONS OF MINISTRY THAT I KNOW HAVE 07:54 BECOME HEAVY ON YOUR HEART AND OF GREAT CONCERN TO LOTS OF US IS HOW DO YOU 08:01 PREACH OR PRESENT OR INTRODUCE JESUS IN AN ENVIRONMENT LIKE THE ONE 08:08 WHICH IS PREDOMINANTLY NOT CHRISTIAN. 08:13 FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE 08:20 MAJORITY RELIGION IN PAKISTAN IS ISLAM. 08:23 NOW, WHEN YOU READ THE QURAN SHARIF YOU WILL FIND THAT THE QURANIC ACCOUNT 08:32 INCLUDES THE NAMES OF MANY, MANY BIBLE PROPHETS. 08:36 SO, THE NAME JESUS AND THE WORD USED IN ARABIC OR URDU IS ISA. 08:42 HASIDIT ISA, THE APOSTLE. 08:46 O.K. 08:47 JESUS. 08:48 BUT THIS WORD IS USED REPEATEDLY. 08:51 THE BIRTH OF JESUS IS WELL KNOWN. 08:53 THE LIFE AND MINISTRY OF JESUS IS WELL KNOWN. 08:58 THERE ARE REFERENCES TO HIS SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS. 09:02 REALLY? 09:03 YES. 09:04 THERE IS A DIVERGENCE IN THE THEOLOGY OF ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY IN THAT 09:10 CHRISTIANITY TEACHES THAT JESUS WAS SACRIFICED, THAT HE DIED D D THAT HE WAS 09:15 RAISED AGAIN AND TAKEN TO HEAVEN. 09:18 IN THE QURANIC ACCOUNT, THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION IS NOT THERE. 09:22 IN FACT, THERE IS A WARNING TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THTH BUT HE IS IN 09:27 HEAVEN TODAY AND JESUS IS TO RETURN. 09:30 HE IS TO JUDGE THE WORLD. 09:32 THIS IS CALLED KIAMUT AND THAT AT THE END, BY THE WAY, HE IS THE ONLY 09:37 PROPHET TODAY THAT REMAINS ALIVE AND WILL COME. 09:42 AND ISLAM ACKNOWLEDGES HE IS ALIVE? 09:45 HE IS ALIVE. 09:46 HE WAS THE GREATEST MIRACLE WORKER AMONG THE PROPHETS. 09:49 JESUS IS ONE OF THE GREATEST OF THE PROPHETS IN ISLAM. 09:53 WHERE ISLAM HAS A DEFINITE DIVERGENCE WITH CHRISTIANITY, A DIFFERENCE 09:58 IN BELIEF, IS THE ISSUE OF THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION AND THEN REALLY THIS IS 10:04 ALSO A MAJOR THING: THE TRINITY, WHERE THEY CLAIM THAT WE BELIEVE IN THREE 10:10 GODS RATHER THAN ONE GOD. 10:12 OF COURSE, THE CREED OF ISLAM IS: THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, ALLAH AND 10:18 MUHAMMAD IS THE PROPHET OF ALLAH. 10:21 SO THERE IS, HOWEVER, A RATHER SIGNIFICANT BROAD BASE OF AGREEMENT THAT 10:32 BELIEVERS IN JESUS SHOULD SEEK TO CONNECT WITH ISLAM. 10:38 ACTUALLY, WE ARE KNOWN, THE TERM USED FOR CHRISTIANS IS "PEOPLE OF 10:47 THE BOOK". 10:49 PEOPLE OF THE BOOK AND THE INSTRUCTION THERE IS GIVEN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS YOU 10:55 GO TO THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK. 10:59 REALLY. 11:00 YOU GO TO THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK. 11:02 IS AND MAYBE I'M ASKING AN UNFAIR QUESTION HERE, BUT IS THAT A PROMINENT 11:10 TEACHING BY THE IMAMS IN THE MOSQUES? 11:14 THIS IS COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD. 11:16 THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS SECRET. 11:18 THIS IS COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD. 11:20 THE TERM IN URDU FOR THIS, I'VE HEARD THIS FROM MUSLIMS MANY TIMES, 11:24 ELIKATHA? 11:25 KATHA IS BOOK BUT ELI KATHA ? 11:26 -THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK. 11:30 THEY WOULD SAY YOU ARE ELIKATHA. 11:32 I CAN EAT WITH YOU. 11:34 I CAN WORSHIP WITH YOU. 11:35 I'VE GONE TO THE MUSLIM PRAYERS. 11:37 I'VE GONE TO THEIR LARGE, LARGE CAMPMEETINGS AND SO FORTH. 11:40 IMMEDIATELY I WAS TREATED WITH ULTIMATE RESPECT. 11:44 SO, AS I'VE HEARD YOU EXPLAIN ON OTHER OCCASIONS, YOU ARE MORE 11:50 CAUTIOUS NOW THAN YOU FORMERLY WERE, BUT YOU CAN WALK DOWN THE STREET. 11:55 CAN YOU THEN BE IDENTIFIED AS A MAN OF THE BOOK? 11:59 I DON'T THINK IMMEDIATELY I COULD BE BUT WHEN I OPEN MY MOUTH I CAN BE. 12:05 WHEN I BEGIN TO SPEAK. 12:08 WOULD THERE NOT BE A LEVEL OF RESPECT FOR YOU THAT OTHERWISE MIGHT NOT BE 12:17 AVAILABLE TO A PERSON WHO IS NOT A PERSON OF THE BOOK? 12:19 I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN OUR DAILY LIVING AND MAYBE IT IS TRUE THAT THE MOST 12:25 POWERFUL SERMON THAT WE CAN PRESENT IS NOT SPOKEN BUT LIVED. 12:31 O.K. 12:32 BUT THE FACT THAT I DON'T DRINK. 12:36 I DON'T SMOKE. 12:37 I WOULD TURN DOWN A CUP OF TEA; THAT I WOULD RATHER EAT VEGETARIAN FOOD AND 12:44 THAT I'D TURN DOWN MEAT ETC., MAKES A MUSLIM VERY COMFORTABLE BECAUSE JUST 12:50 BY WATCHING ME, HE WOULD KNOW THAT THOSE CHARACTERISTICS COMMONLY 12:55 THOUGHT OF CHRISTIANS THAT THEY DRINK, THAT THEY ARE IMMORAL, THAT THEY EAT 13:00 UNCLEAN FOOD AND SO FORTH. 13:01 THIS IS NOT FOR ME. 13:03 IMMEDIATELY THEY'D SAY YOU ARE DIFFERENT. 13:06 SO, YOU'RE NOT JUST A RUN OF THE MILL CHRISTIAN THEN, YOU ARE A MAN OF THE 13:14 BOOK. 13:15 YES. 13:17 SEE I'VE HAD SOME OTHER PEOPLE EXPLAIN TO ME THAT AN ADVENTIST BELIEVING IN 13:25 THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE LAW OF GOD AND OBEDIENCE TO THAT LAW INCLUDING THE 13:31 SABBATH AND THE LIFESTYLE PRINCIPLES THAT ARE FOLLOWED: THOSE ARE THE 13:38 THINGS THAT ARE A COMMON BASIS OF CONNECTION WITH A MUSLIM. 13:45 I HAVE DIFFICULTY, ALTHOUGH, I'M ASKING. 13:48 YES, YOU CAN TEACH ACTUALLY TWENTY SEVEN DISTINCTIVE DOCTRINES OF 13:55 THE CHURCH FROM THE QURAN. 13:59 WHAT? 14:01 TWENTY-SEVEN BUT I FIND THAT THE CLOSEST, THE AREAS WHERE WE OVERLAP THE 14:10 MOST ARE THINGS LIKE HEALTH. 14:11 THIS IS VERY, VERY TELLING. 14:13 O.K. 14:14 THERE ARE OTHERS LIKE: JESUS IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS. 14:19 THE SACRIFICE AND I HOPE WE CAN GET INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT- ANOTHER 14:23 TREMENDOUS EXAMPLE. 14:25 ANOTHER ONE IS SECOND COMING. 14:29 THAT'S, I MEAN WE JUST TOTALLY AGREE ON SO MANY ASPECTS OF THAT. 14:35 BUT THERE ARE MANY, MANY OF THESE TOPICS THAT ARE REALLY INTERRELATED. 14:43 THE QURAN IS PROBABLY OUR BEST BRIDGE TO DISCUSS SPIRITUALITY WITH, WHEN 14:51 YOU SPEAK TO A MUSLIM. 14:54 NOW, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THIS. 14:57 YOU SAID THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS, BUT I THOUGHT THEY DENY THE DEATH OF JESUS ON 15:03 THE CROSS. 15:04 HERE IS THE INTERESTING THING. 15:05 O.K. 15:06 THERE ARE TWO BIG FESTIVALS IN ISLAM AND TO THIS DAY, THESE TWO 15:14 FESTIVALS AND I WILL JUST CALL THEM E.I.D. 15:19 O.K. 15:20 BUT TWO OF THESE FESTIVALS OBSERVED IN A YEAR. 15:28 THE ONE IS A FESTIVAL AND THEY SACRIFICE AT THAT FESTIVAL. 15:35 SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CITY OF LAHORE WHERE I LIVED THERE WOULD BE COWS, 15:40 GOATS, SHEEP AND SO FORTH SACRIFICED ON THAT DAY THE GUTTERS OF THE CITY RUN 15:47 RED WITH BLOOD. 15:48 AT EVENING TIME, THE SKINS ARE TAKEN AWAY; THE MEAT IS COOKED, FED TO MANY, 15:54 THE POOR AND SO FORTH. 15:56 BUT IF YOU SPEAK HEART TO HEART WITH A MUSLIM AND YOU BRING THE ISSUE OF THE 16:03 SACRIFICE UP, YOU ASK "W"WT DOES THE SACRIFICE MEAN?" 16:11 "WHY DO YOU DO THIS?" 16:13 AND THE MUSLIM WILL RESPOND AND SAY, "WELL, WE WERE TOLD TO DO THIS. 16:19 WE ARE TOLD TO DO THIS. 16:20 THIS IS THE INSTRUCTION." 16:23 WHY WERE YOU TOLD TO DO T TS? 16:25 GOD NEVER TELLS US TO DO ANYTHING THAT IS BASELESS OR WITHOUT SENSE. 16:32 WELL, OUR FATHERS DID THIS. 16:34 BRING UP THE ISSUE OF ABRAHAM AND HIS SON. 16:42 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE. 16:44 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF? 16:46 IS ABRAHAM AND HIS SON? 16:48 BY THE WAY, WE DON'T NAME THE SON BUT THEY WILL SAY YES. 16:53 OH, WE DON'T? 16:53 WELL, THERE IS AN OLDER SON AND A YOUNGER SON. 16:56 THERE IS A SON OF ABRAHAM'S EFFORT AND THERE IS THE SON OF PROMISE BUT 16:58 YOU WANT TO KEEP THE DISCUSSION OF THE SACRIFICE. 17:07 SO, WHY WOULD GOD HAVE DONE THAT? 17:12 REMEMBER RECOUNT NOW, THE INCIDENT THAT ABRAHAM GOES UP READY TO OFFER HIS SON 17:20 BUT HE DOES NOT OFFER HIS SON. 17:23 GOD STOPS HIM AND IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS HE SAYS, DON'T DO IT. 17:28 NOW I KNOW YOUR HEART I CAN SEE WHAT YOU ARE READY TO DO BUT I HAVE PROVIDED 17:34 ANOTHER SACRIFICE AND ABRAHAM LOOKS AND FINDS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT WAS 17:38 ISAAC BUT. 17:39 IS THAT ALL IN THE QURAN TOO? 17:40 YES. 17:42 SO THAT STORY IS THERE. 17:44 NOW YOU ASK THE QUESTION WHO REALLY PROVIDED THE SACRIFICE? 17:51 IT WAS GOD. 17:52 O.K. 17:56 TAKE THIS FROM THERE. 17:57 I LEAVE THIS WITH YOU NOW. 18:00 IT WAS GOD WHO PROVIDED THE SACRIFICE. 18:04 GO BACK NOW TO YOUR THOUGHT HASIT ISA WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED AT THAT 18:12 PLACE WHERE HE WAS PUT ON THE CROSS? 18:16 WHAT WAS GOD DOING? 18:19 WE BELIEVE THE THREE BOOKS: THE TORAH, THE ZABUR- PSALMS AND 18:27 PROPHETS; INJIL AND THE FOURTH BOOK IS QURAN. 18:29 IF YOU READ THE INJIL, YOU READ THE STORY OF ABRAHAM AND HIS SON IN THE TORAH 18:32 AND IF YOU READ THE QURAN, YOU HAVE TO COMPARE NOW, YOU ALWAYS SAY THERE IS A 18:35 DIFFERENCE THAT THESE ARE SEPARATE, THAT THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF MAYBE ERROR 18:38 MIXED IN WITH THE TRUTH. 18:39 WHEN YOU FINISHED, TELL ME WHAT THE MEANING OF THE SACRIFICE IS. 18:41 NEVER ARGUE. 18:42 JUST LOOK AT THAT. 18:43 ASK QUESTIONS. 18:44 AND THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT THEY CANNOT ANSWER. 18:46 THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT YOU GET AN ANSWER TO IN THE TORAH BUT ESPECIALLY 18:48 DO YOU GET IT IN THE GOSPELS. 18:53 IN THE CONTEXT OF GOSPEL OUTREACH, ARE YOU AS A GOSPEL OUTREACH DIRECTOR, 19:04 ABLE TO HELP YOUR GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS CONNECT WITH THE POPULATION IN 19:14 THAT WAY? 19:16 ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE WELL ENOUGH. 19:20 THIS LAST YEAR I SPENT EIGHT MONTHS IN PAKISTAN AND BOTH IN THE NORTH AND 19:25 THE SOUTH WE CALLED TOGETHER ALL THE GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS. 19:54 THEY WERE EACH GIVEN A WEEK OF TRAINING AND I THINK THAT THIS HAS TO 19:59 CONTINUE BECAUSE IN PAKISTAN YOU WILL FIND GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS 20:04 WHO ARE NOT ONLY TRAINED BUT ALSO GIFTED TO REACH-DUE TO THEIR 20:11 PERSONALITIES,THEIR INTERESTS AND SO FORTH YOU FIND OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE 20:16 NOT EQUIPPED TO MINISTER IN THAT SAME WAY. 20:18 I THINK IT TAKES A SELECT GROUP OF PEOPLE TO DO SOME OF THE ANSWERS. 20:22 SO I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE EXPLOITED MORE. 20:25 O.K. 20:26 GIVE ME-BECAUSE I WANT TO GO TO ANOTHER TOPIC WITH YOU HERE GEORGE, IN VERY 20:36 BRIEF STATEMENT TELL ME WHAT YOU WISH WOULD HAPPEN AMONG THE PAKISTANI 20:45 POPULATION WITH THE PRESENTATION ABOUT JESUS. 20:50 YOU KNOW, I WISH THAT THERE COULD BE, I DESIRE, I PRAY THAT THERE WOULD BE 20:56 MORE FORUMS WHERE WE COULD GET TOGETHER WITHOUT RANKOR, AND BY THE WAY, 21:03 THIS OFTEN HAPPENS ONE ON ONE BETWEEN FRIENDS. 21:06 INTERNET IS A SAFE PLACE. 21:10 MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST ARE LOGGING ON TO CHRISTIAN PROGRAMS. 21:14 I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE FORUMS THAT WE COULD USE TO REALLY DISCUSS TRUTH 21:21 AND COMPARE BOOKS AND KNOWLEDGE. 21:23 ISN'T THIS THE METHOD WHERE WE TAKE LINE ON LINE AND LAW ON LAW AND WE 21:31 BEGIN TO EXAMINE THAT TO DISTILL OUT OF THERE THE MOST TRUTH THAT IS 21:36 POSSIBLE FOR US TO UNDERSTAND? 21:38 RIGHT NOW WE REALIZE THAT WE ARE NOT ARRIVED; WE DON'T HAVE IT ALL. 21:43 WELL, IT IS VERY INSTRUCTIVE THAT YOU MAKE THE REFERENCES FOR OUR 21:48 BENEFIT. 21:49 HERE WE ARE IN THE WESTERN WORLD AND THE BIBLE IS THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY FOR US. 21:56 THAT IS NOT THE CASE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND SO YOU'VE MADE A VERY 22:02 INSTRUCTIVE POINT ABOUT APPRECIATION FOR THE QURAN AND UNDERSTANDING HOW 22:08 THERE CAN BE A CORRELATION IN SOME FASHION. 22:12 FINALLY, FOR TODAY GEORGE, I AM CHALLENGED BY WHAT LITTLE I KNOW ABOUT 22:21 CHRISTIAN EDUCATION IN PAKISTAN. 22:23 WHAT IS THE STATE OF CHRISTIAN EDUCATION IN PAKISTAN TODAY? 22:26 WHAT IS THE VALUE OF CHRISTIAN EDUCATION? 22:29 WHAT ARE THE INVESTMENTS THAT SHOULD BE MADE? 22:36 WE FACE A REAL CHALLENGE IN PAKISTAN. 22:39 FORTY YEARS AGO-FORTY SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO,WHEN MY WIFE WENT T T 22:45 TO WORK CHRISTIAN EDUCATION WAS PROBABLY AT ITS HIGH POINT AND OUR 22:53 SCHOOL FOR EXAMPLE, WAS REALLY A TRAINING CENTER FOR CHRISTIAN YOUNG 22:57 PEOPLE. 22:59 WE GRADUATED, WE HAD A COLLEGE THERE-STILL DO BUT WE GRADUATED SCORES OF 23:01 YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WENT INTO THE WORK AND SO FORTH-WELL TRAINED. 23:08 THROUGH THE YEARS, THIS HAS DWINDLED. 23:12 BACK THEN THERE WAS A STRONG WORK-STUDY PROGRAM ON CAMPUS. 23:16 MANY, MANY YOUNG PEOPLE COULD COME WHO DID NOT HAVE THE FINANCES TO 23:20 ATTEND AND THEY REALLY RECEIVED A SOLID CHRISTIAN EDUCATION. 23:25 TODAY, THIS HAS DWINDLED. 23:27 NO MORE WORK-STUDY, IF YOU CAN PAY THE FEES YOU GET IN. 23:31 IN FACT, A LARGE PART OF THE EFFORT OF OUR SCHOOL NOW HAS TURNED INTO JUST A 23:39 COMMUNITY LEARNING CENTER WHICH SERVES EVERYONE AND TODAY THE CHRISTIANS HAVE: 23:44 A) BECOME A MINORITY IN THE SCHOOL AND SECONDLY, WE ARE KIND OF RUNNING A 23:54 DUAL SYSTEM WHERE ON ONE SIDE OF THECAMPUS THERE WOULD BE ISLAMIAT 24:00 TAUGHT-ISLAM AND SO FORTH. 24:03 ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CAMPUS CHRISTIANITY IS TAUGHT. 24:06 THE SCHOOL BODY PROBABLY TODAY HAS ABOUT FIFTEEN PER R NT SEVENTH DAY 24:11 ADVENTIST STUDENTS WHO ARE STUDYING IN SCHOOL. 24:13 THE REST ARE OTHER GROUPS WHO CAN PAY THE FEES. 24:19 THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. 24:21 I MEAN BASICALLY, WE'VE LEFT OUR PATTERN OF EDUCATION AND TODAY THE 24:29 EDUCATION OFFICE IS NOT THE SAME. 24:31 WHAT PRACTICALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN? 24:33 IS THERE ANYTHING PRACTICALLY THAT CAN HAPPEN? 24:35 I THINK WE'VE GOT TO STOP BEING SO FOCUSED ON MONEY AND WE NEED TO BEGIN TO 24:42 FOCUS REALLY ON MISSION AND QUALITY. 24:44 THIS IS GOING TO TAKE TIME. 24:47 WE TOOK SOME CONCRETE STEPS THE LAST TWELVE MONTHS. 24:53 FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY THERE IS A SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM IN PLACE THAT HAS A 24:58 POTENTIAL OF SERVING ABOUT 250 STUDENTS. 25:02 BY THE WAY, INADDITION TO THE LARGE SCHOOL AND COLLEGE THAT IS IN PLACE 25:07 IN PUNJAB, THERE ARE TWELVE CITY SCHOOLS, OH, PLACED IN DIFFERENT CITIES 25:12 WITH ABOUT 2500 STUDENTS STUDYING THERE. 25:15 THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FEEDERS TO THE BIGGER INSTITUTION. 25:19 SO, MANY OF THE SCHOLARSHIPS ARE GOING TO THOSE SCHOOLS AND THEY IN 25:24 TURN CAN FORWARD THOSE ON THE SCHOLARSHIP AMOUNT IS A VERY MINOR AMOUNT. 25:28 IT IS $5 A MONTH BUT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR A POOR FAMILY TO GET THEIR 25:31 CHILD INTO SCHOOL. 25:34 WELL, I WANTED JUST SOME STATEMENT BECAUSE PEOPLE ASK, WHAT IS THE STATE? 25:41 WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES? 25:45 BECAUSE I KNOW PAKISTANIS IN NORTH AMERICA WHO REMEMBER SO WELL THE 25:51 FOUNDATION THAT BLESSED THEM IN THEIR EARLY LIVES AND THEY'D LIKE TO SEE 25:55 THAT FOR THE CONTINUING POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE IN PAKISTAN TODAY. 26:00 WELL, WE KNOW WHAT TO PRAY ABOUT IF NOTHING ELSE. 26:04 YES. 26:05 AND I HAVE BEEN ALERT TO THE FACT THAT ADVENTIST EDUCATION MAY BE THE ONLY 26:12 HOPE OF EDUCATION FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE OUTLYING AREAS BUT IF THEY 26:17 DON'T HAVE THE MONEY THEN THAT IS A CHALLENGE TOO. 26:21 SO WITH THAT GOSPEL OUTREACH FAMILY, YOU'VE HEARD A LITTLE MORE ABOUT 26:26 THE CHALLENGES AND THE WORK IN THE 10/40 WINDOW WITH PARTICULAR FOCUS ON 26:31 PAKISTAN AND WHAT BROTHER GEORGE HAS BROUGHT TO US TODAY. 26:39 I WANT TO ASK YOU TO PRAY ESPECIALLY FOR THE WORKERS IN PAKISTAN AND THE 26:42 CHALLENGES THAT ACCRUE TO CHRISTIAN EDUCATION-SEVENTH DAY 26:47 ADVENTIST EDUCATION. 26:48 THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DESPERATELY NEED THE ADVANTAGES WE KNOW IN OUR 26:52 ECONOMY, IN OUR WORLD AND THEY ARE GOD'S PEOPLE TOO. 26:56 SO, LISTEN CAREFULLY TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AND DO WHAT YOU BELIEVE WHAT GOD 27:08 WOULD HAVE YOU DO FOR THIS WORK. 27:15 [CLOSING MUSIC]. 27:16 I NEED TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL HERE AT HOME. 27:18 WHERE IS THE 10/40 WINDOW ANYWAY? 27:22 THOSE PEOPLE ARE TOO FAR AWAY. 27:24 SOMEONE ELSE CAN TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS. 27:27 MAYBE THEY COULD JUST WATCH TV? 27:31 NEARLY THREE BILLION PEOPLE TO REACH, MY HEAD HURTS. 27:36 THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO, I GIVE UP. 27:39 WHAT'S THE POINT OF TRYING? 27:41 I CAN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 27:43 ACTUALLY YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND JESUS ASKED YOU TO GO TO ALL THE 27:50 WORLD. 27:51 WHERE? 27:52 ALL THE WORLD. 27:53 HOW CAN I GO I HAVE COMMITMENTS? 27:55 YOU CAN PRAY. 27:57 YOU CAN VOLUNTEER YOUR TALENTS. 28:02 YOU CAN TELL OTHERS. 28:06 YOU CAN GIVE MONEY TO SPONSOR BIBLE WORKERS. 28:09 MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING FOR HOPE AND MEANING BUT THEY WON'T 28:12 FIND IT WITHOUT YOU. 28:14 BE THE SPARK. 28:15 LIGHT THE FIRE. 28:18 FINISH THE WORK. 28:22 FINISH THE WORK. 28:26 BE THE SPARK. |
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