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HELLO, GOOD
FRIENDS OF GOSPEL OUTREACH.
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I GET TO BE IN THE STUDIOS
OF GOSPEL OUTREACH IN COLLEGE
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PLACE, WASHINGTON TODAY.
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THIS IS WHERE ALL OF THE
PROGRAMS REALLY, OF GOSPEL
OUTREACH ARE PRODUCED AND
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HERE IN COLLEGE
PLACE IN OCTOBER OF 2013.
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I GIVE YOU THAT CLARIFICATION
JUST IN CASE WE TALK ABOUT TIMES
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AND PLACES SO YOU KNOW WHERE
WE ARE AND WHAT'S HAPPENING.
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STORIES OF WHERE THEYEET HAVE
BEEN WORKING, WHOPELLLTRTRR THEY
HAVE SEEN AND WHAT'S
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HAPPENING ON THE FRONT LINE
OF GOD'S MINISTRY IN THE 21ST
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CENTURY. TODAY I GET TO WELCOME
AGAIN MY DEAR FRIEND GEORGE
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JOHNSON. WELCOME, GEORGE.
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THANK YOU.
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GOD BLESS YOU, BROTHER.
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ALWAYS HAPPY TO BE WHERE GEORGE
IS BECAUSE GOD HAS BLEST HIM
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WITH SUCH AN
EXCITING,INTERESTING, DYNAMIC
MINISTRY AND THEREFORE TO HAVE
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YOU AS A PART OF GOSPEL OUTREACH
AND TO TELL WHAT'S HAPPENING IN
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YOUR PART OF THE WORLD FIELD IS
VERY, VERY INSPIRING AND
ENCOURAGING TO US, GEORGE.
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BUT I'M GOING TO GO
TO THE HUMAN LEVEL HERE.
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THESE SHIRTS YOU WEAR
ARE SO COMFORTABLE LOOKING.
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I KNOW ABOUT THE BATIK SHIRT,
I'VE SEEN YOU IN BEFORE AND
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YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL OF THOSE
PROBABLY TOO, BUT TELL US ABOUT
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THE SHIRT TODAY. THIS
IS FROM THE PHILIPPINES.
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IT IS CALLED A BARONG.
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REALLY THE FULL NAME IS BARONG
TAGALOG AND its OFFICIAL WEAR.
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A PASTOR WOULD USE
THIS FOR PREACHING.
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HIS CONGREGANTS WOULD USE THIS.
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THE PRESIDENT OF THE PHILIPPINES
WOULD USE THE BARONG WHEN HE
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SPEAKS TO THE
NATION ON TELEVISION.
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THEY LOOK SO COMFORTABLE.
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THEY ARE.
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M A LITTLE ENVIOUS,
ACTUALLY TO SEE YOU THERE.
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AT ANY RATE, IT IS JUST GOOD
TO BE WITH YOU AND TO BE ABLE TO
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TALK ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH
GOGOEL OUTREACH AND IT'S KIND OF
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MAYBE A THROW AWAY QUESTION TO
START WITH BUT GEORGE, GIVE ME
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT GOSPEL
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OUTREACH?
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I TOTALLY SUPPORT IT.
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GOSPEL OUTREACH NUMBER ONE IS AN
ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS GOD'S
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CHURCH WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
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EVERYONE HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES IS A VOLUNTEER.
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THERE IS NO OVERHEAD TO SPEAK
OFF, EXCEPT OFFICE EXPENSE OR
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THE TRAVEL OF A FEW PEOPLE.
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SECONDLY, GOSPEL OUTREACH HAS
A CONCEPT THAT THEY USE THAT IS
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FAR SUPERIOR TO OTHER MISSION
ENDEAVORS AND THAT IS TO USE
FUNDING FROM THE WEST AND TO
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TRANSLATE THAT INTO EFFORT
OVERSEAS THAT IS NATIONAL EFFORT
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WHICH MEANS THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE
WHO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE, WHO KNOW
THE CULTURE, WHO KNOW HOW TO
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EAK TO AND TO COMMUNICATE WITH
LOCAL PEOPLE IN THEIR RELIGIOUS,
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IN THEIR CULTURAL,
IN THEIR LOCAL SETTING.
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YET IT IS BEING PAID FOR OUT OF
HARD CURRENCY OFTEN, SO THAT THE
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WORK CAN PROGRESS OVERSEAS.
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WHAT YOU REALLY EXPLAINED WITH
THAT GEORGE, IS THE SO CALLED
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DOLLAR GOES SO MUCH FARTHER,
VERY FAR, WHEN IT IS INVESTED
WITH THE LOCAL ECONOMY, WITH
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THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WHO
ALREADY FIT IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.
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NOW, I WAS GOING TO SPEAK
A LITTLE BIT MORE RELATIVE TO
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THIS. IN USING THOSE
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LOCAL WORKERS,
HOW DO WE FIND THEM?
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HOW CAN THE DOLLAR THAT SOMEBODY
SENDS HERE -WELL, WE KNOW HOW
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IT'S USED-BUT HOW CAN THEY BE
ASSURED IT IS GOING TO ACHIEVE
THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH IT IS
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GIVEN?
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THE SELECTION
PROCESS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
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IN THE SELECTION PROCESS,
WE WOULD TRY TO FIND OVERSEAS
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PEOPLE WHO HAD
TRAINING IN SOUL WINNING.
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WE WOULD LOOK AT OUR COLLEGES
FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE AREN'T
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ENOUGH OPENINGS IN THE REGULAR
WORK, WE WOULD TAKE YOUNG PEOPLE
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ON WITH DEGREES IN THEOLOGY
OR IN RELIGION WHO COULD
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DODOINISTRY. OFTEN WHEN THE
CHURCH ITSELF IS HIRING A
WORKER, THEY WILL COME AND LOOK
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AT GOSPEL OUTREACH TO GET
SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD EXPERIENCE
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IN THAT EDUCATION BUT WE WILL
ALSO PUT TO WORK, SOMETIMES THEY
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ARE EXPERIENCED PEOPLE WHO HAVE
RESIGNED, SOME OF OUR VERY BEST
WORKERS ARE THOSE WHO PUT
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IN A LIFE TIME OF SERVICE
AND THEY KNOW THE SERVICE.
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BUT WE WILL ALSO TAKE ELDERS
AND OTHERS WHO ARE PROVEN TO BE
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EFFECTIVE SOUL WINNERS.
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SO THAT'S THE SELECTION.
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NOW YOUR PARTICULAR ROLE AS
WE CALL REGIONAL DIRECTORS, ARE
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MANY TIMES INVITED TO GO TO
REGIONS OF THE WORLD WHERE THEY
ALREADY FIT, AS IN YOUR
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CASE.
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RIGHT.
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YOU WERE I THINK YOU SAID, YOU
WERE BORN IN INDIA BUT YOU WERE
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RAISED IN PAKISTAN.
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I WAS BORN IN INDIA, SPENT
TIME IN PAKISTAN AND IN INDIA.
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MY FATHER WAS WORKING
AS A MISSIONARY OVERSEAS.
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I WAS SIXTEEN HAVING ASSIMILATED
THE LANGUAGE AND THE CULTURE AND
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SO FORTH, WHEN I RETURNED TO
THE UNITED STATES TO CONTINUE MY
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COLLEGE EDUCATION.
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I WAS TWENTY-FOUR WHEN I WENT
OVERSEAS TO WORK FOR SIXTEEN
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YEARS IN PAKISTAN AND THEN
ANOTHER FOURTEEN IN SINGAPORE
WHERE I SERVED THAILAND AND
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OTHER SOUTHEAST ASIAN COUNTRIES.
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SO, I SPENT A TOTAL OF SERVICE
TIME OF THIRTY YEARS AND SOME
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FIFTEEN, SIXTEEN YEARS OF
CHILDHOOD TIME OVER THERE IN
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ASIA. AND SO WHAT GOSPEL
OUTREACH HAS ATTEMPTED TO DO IS
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FIND MORE GEORGE JOHNSON'S WHO
CAN RELATE MORE NATURALLY TO THE
ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE ARE
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RECRUITING GOSPEL OUTREACH
WORKERS AND MAKING SURE ALL THE
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INVESTMENT IS ACCOMPLISHING THE
PURPOSE FOR WHICH IT IS GIVEN.
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ACTUALLY, MANY OF THE GOSPEL
OUTREACH COUNTRY DIRECTORS ARE
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EX-WORKERS, MISSIONARIES WHO
HAVE SERVED OVERSEAS AND COME
BACK AND THEY STILL HAVE
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THEIR HEARTS OVERSEAS.
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WELL, I JUST WANTED TO PROBE YOU
JUST A LITTLE BIT SO THAT OUR
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GOSPEL OUTREACH AUDIENCE, OUR
PEOPLE OUT THERE UNDERSTAND MORE
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OF HOW THIS GOSPEL OUTREACH
MINISTRY IS WORKING AND WHY, WHY
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IT IS SO EFFECTIVE.
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NOW, YOUR WORK IN PAKISTAN
BECOMES VERY, VERY INTERESTING
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TO US BECAUSE THERE IS PROBABLY
NONE OF OUR OTHER GOSPEL
OUTREACH REGIONS THAT IS IN THE
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NEWS ANYMORE THAN YOUR FIELD IS.
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AND WE HAVE CONCERN, HOW ARE THE
GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS DOING
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AND WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING?
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YOU AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED
ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES TO
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THE WORK IN OTHER PROGRAMS BUT A
COUPLE OF DIMENSIONS OF MINISTRY
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THAT I KNOW HAVE BECOME HEAVY ON
YOUR HEART AND OF GREAT CONCERN
TO LOTS OF US IS HOW DO YOU
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PREACH OR PRESENT OR INTRODUCE
JESUS IN AN ENVIRONMENT LIKE THE
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ONE WHICH IS
PREDOMINANTLY NOT CHRISTIAN.
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FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT FOR ALL TO UNDERSTAND
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THAT THE MAJORITY
RELIGION IN PAKISTAN IS ISLAM.
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NOW, WHEN YOU READ THE QURAN
SHARIF YOU WILL FIND THAT THE
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QURANIC ACCOUNT INCLUDES
THE NAMES OF MANY, MANY BIBLE
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PROPHETS. SO, THE NAME JESUS AND
THE WORD USED IN ARABIC OR URDU
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IS ISA. HASIDIT
ISA, THE APOSTLE.
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O.K.
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JESUS.
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BUT THIS WORD
IS USED REPEATEDLY.
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THE BIRTH OF
JESUS IS WELL KNOWN.
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THE LIFE AND MINISTRY
OF JESUS IS WELL KNOWN.
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THERE ARE REFERENCES TO
HIS SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS.
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REALLY?
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YES.
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THERE IS A DIVERGENCE IN THE
THEOLOGY OF ISLAM AND
CHRISTIANITY IN THAT
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CHRISTIANITY TEACHES THAT JESUS
WAS SACRIFICED, THAT HE DIED D D
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THAT HE WAS RAISED
AGAIN AND TAKEN TO HEAVEN.
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IN THE QURANIC ACCOUNT, THE
DEATH AND RESURRECTION IS NOT
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THERE. IN FACT, THERE IS A
WARNING TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THTH
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BUT HE IS IN HEAVEN
TODAY AND JESUS IS TO RETURN.
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HE IS TO JUDGE THE WORLD.
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THIS IS CALLED KIAMUT AND THAT
AT THE END, BY THE WAY, HE IS
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THE ONLY PROPHET TODAY THAT
REMAINS ALIVE AND WILL COME.
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AND ISLAM
ACKNOWLEDGES HE IS ALIVE?
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HE IS ALIVE.
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HE WAS THE GREATEST MIRACLE
WORKER AMONG THE PROPHETS.
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JESUS IS ONE OF THE GREATEST
OF THE PROPHETS IN ISLAM.
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WHERE ISLAM HAS A DEFINITE
DIVERGENCE WITH CHRISTIANITY, A
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DIFFERENCE IN BELIEF, IS THE
ISSUE OF THE DEATH AND
RESURRECTION AND THEN REALLY
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THIS IS ALSO A MAJOR THING: THE
TRINITY, WHERE THEY CLAIM THAT
WE BELIEVE IN THREE
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GODS RATHER THAN ONE GOD.
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OF COURSE, THE CREED OF ISLAM
IS: THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, ALLAH
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AND MUHAMMAD IS
THE PROPHET OF ALLAH.
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SO THERE IS, HOWEVER, A
RATHER SIGNIFICANT BROAD BASE OF
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AGREEMENT THAT BELIEVERS IN
JESUS SHOULD SEEK TO CONNECT
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WITH ISLAM. ACTUALLY, WE ARE
KNOWN, THE TERM USED FOR
CHRISTIANS IS "PEOPLE OF
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THE BOOK".
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PEOPLE OF THE BOOK AND THE
INSTRUCTION THERE IS GIVEN IF
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS YOU
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GO TO THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK.
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REALLY.
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YOU GO TO THE
PEOPLE OF THE BOOK.
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IS AND MAYBE I'M ASKING AN
UNFAIR QUESTION HERE, BUT IS
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THAT A PROMINENT TEACHING
BY THE IMAMS IN THE MOSQUES?
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THIS IS COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD.
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THIS IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT IS SECRET.
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THIS IS COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD.
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THE TERM IN URDU FOR THIS, I'VE
HEARD THIS FROM MUSLIMS MANY
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TIMES, ELIKATHA?
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KATHA IS BOOK BUT ELI KATHA ?
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-THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK.
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THEY WOULD SAY YOU ARE ELIKATHA.
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I CAN EAT WITH YOU.
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I CAN WORSHIP WITH YOU.
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I'VE GONE TO THE MUSLIM PRAYERS.
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I'VE GONE TO THEIR LARGE,
LARGE CAMPMEETINGS AND SO FORTH.
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IMMEDIATELY I WAS
TREATED WITH ULTIMATE RESPECT.
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SO, AS I'VE HEARD YOU EXPLAIN
ON OTHER OCCASIONS, YOU ARE MORE
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CAUTIOUS NOW THAN YOU FORMERLY
WERE, BUT YOU CAN WALK DOWN THE
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STREET. CAN YOU THEN BE
IDENTIFIED AS A MAN OF THE BOOK?
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I DON'T THINK IMMEDIATELY
I COULD BE BUT WHEN I OPEN MY
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MOUTH I CAN BE.
WHEN I BEGIN TO SPEAK.
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WOULD THERE NOT BE A LEVEL OF
RESPECT FOR YOU THAT OTHERWISE
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MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE TO A
PERSON WHO IS NOT A PERSON OF
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THE BOOK? I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN
OUR DAILY LIVING AND MAYBE IT IS
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TRUE THAT THE MOST POWERFUL
SERMON THAT WE CAN PRESENT IS
NOT SPOKEN BUT LIVED.
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O.K.
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BUT THE FACT THAT I DON'T DRINK.
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I DON'T SMOKE.
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I WOULD TURN DOWN A CUP OF TEA;
THAT I WOULD RATHER EAT
VEGETARIAN FOOD AND
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THAT I'D TURN DOWN MEAT ETC.,
MAKES A MUSLIM VERY COMFORTABLE
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BECAUSE JUST BY WATCHING ME, HE
WOULD KNOW THAT THOSE
CHARACTERISTICS COMMONLY
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THOUGHT OF CHRISTIANS THAT THEY
DRINK, THAT THEY ARE IMMORAL,
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THAT THEY EAT
UNCLEAN FOOD AND SO FORTH.
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THIS IS NOT FOR ME.
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IMMEDIATELY THEY'D
SAY YOU ARE DIFFERENT.
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SO, YOU'RE NOT JUST A RUN OF THE
MILL CHRISTIAN THEN, YOU ARE A
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MAN OF THE BOOK.
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YES.
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SEE I'VE HAD SOME OTHER PEOPLE
EXPLAIN TO ME THAT AN ADVENTIST
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BELIEVING IN THE SIGNIFICANCE OF
THE LAW OF GOD AND OBEDIENCE TO
THAT LAW INCLUDING THE
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SABBATH AND THE LIFESTYLE
PRINCIPLES THAT ARE FOLLOWED:
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THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE A
COMMON BASIS OF CONNECTION WITH
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A MUSLIM. I HAVE DIFFICULTY,
ALTHOUGH, I'M ASKING.
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YES, YOU CAN TEACH ACTUALLY
TWENTY SEVEN DISTINCTIVE
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DOCTRINES OF THE
CHURCH FROM THE QURAN.
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WHAT?
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TWENTY-SEVEN BUT I FIND THAT
THE CLOSEST, THE AREAS WHERE WE
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OVERLAP THE MOST
ARE THINGS LIKE HEALTH.
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THIS IS VERY, VERY TELLING.
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O.K.
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THERE ARE OTHERS LIKE: JESUS
IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS.
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THE SACRIFICE AND I HOPE WE
CAN GET INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT-
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ANOTHER TREMENDOUS EXAMPLE.
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ANOTHER ONE IS SECOND COMING.
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THAT'S, I MEAN WE JUST TOTALLY
AGREE ON SO MANY ASPECTS OF
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THAT. BUT THERE ARE MANY, MANY
OF THESE TOPICS THAT ARE REALLY
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INTERRELATED. THE QURAN IS
PROBABLY OUR BEST BRIDGE TO
DISCUSS SPIRITUALITY WITH, WHEN
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YOU SPEAK TO A MUSLIM.
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NOW, I JUST WANT
TO BE CLEAR ON THIS.
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YOU SAID THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS,
BUT I THOUGHT THEY DENY THE
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DEATH OF JESUS ON THE CROSS.
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HERE IS THE INTERESTING THING.
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O.K.
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THERE ARE TWO BIG FESTIVALS IN
ISLAM AND TO THIS DAY, THESE TWO
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FESTIVALS AND I WILL
JUST CALL THEM E.I.D.
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O.K.
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BUT TWO OF THESE
FESTIVALS OBSERVED IN A YEAR.
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THE ONE IS A FESTIVAL AND
THEY SACRIFICE AT THAT FESTIVAL.
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SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CITY OF
LAHORE WHERE I LIVED THERE WOULD
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BE COWS, GOATS, SHEEP AND SO
FORTH SACRIFICED ON THAT DAY THE
GUTTERS OF THE CITY RUN
00:15:40.80\00:15:47.06
RED WITH BLOOD.
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AT EVENING TIME, THE SKINS ARE
TAKEN AWAY; THE MEAT IS COOKED,
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FED TO MANY, THE
POOR AND SO FORTH.
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BUT IF YOU SPEAK HEART TO HEART
WITH A MUSLIM AND YOU BRING THE
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ISSUE OF THE SACRIFICE UP,
YOU ASK "W"WT DOES THE SACRIFICE
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MEAN?" "WHY DO YOU DO THIS?"
00:16:11.20\00:16:13.73
AND THE MUSLIM WILL RESPOND AND
SAY, "WELL, WE WERE TOLD TO DO
00:16:13.73\00:16:19.73
THIS. WE ARE TOLD TO DO THIS.
00:16:19.73\00:16:20.70
THIS IS THE INSTRUCTION."
00:16:20.70\00:16:23.26
WHY WERE YOU TOLD TO DO T TS?
00:16:23.26\00:16:25.76
GOD NEVER TELLS US TO DO
ANYTHING THAT IS BASELESS OR
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WITHOUT SENSE. WELL,
OUR FATHERS DID THIS.
00:16:32.43\00:16:34.63
BRING UP THE ISSUE
OF ABRAHAM AND HIS SON.
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THIS IS AN EXAMPLE.
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IS THAT WHAT
YOU ARE SPEAKING OF?
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IS ABRAHAM AND HIS SON?
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BY THE WAY, WE DON'T NAME
THE SON BUT THEY WILL SAY YES.
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OH, WE DON'T?
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WELL, THERE IS AN
OLDER SON AND A YOUNGER SON.
00:16:53.93\00:16:56.00
THERE IS A SON OF ABRAHAM'S
EFFORT AND THERE IS THE SON OF
00:16:56.00\00:16:58.73
PROMISE BUT YOU WANT TO KEEP
THE DISCUSSION OF THE SACRIFICE.
00:16:58.73\00:17:00.90
SO, WHY WOULD
GOD HAVE DONE THAT?
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REMEMBER RECOUNT NOW, THE
INCIDENT THAT ABRAHAM GOES UP
READY TO OFFER HIS SON
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BUT HE DOES NOT OFFER HIS SON.
00:17:20.83\00:17:23.66
GOD STOPS HIM AND IN THE MIDDLE
OF ALL OF THIS HE SAYS, DON'T DO
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IT. NOW I KNOW YOUR HEART I CAN
SEE WHAT YOU ARE READY TO DO BUT
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I HAVE PROVIDED ANOTHER
SACRIFICE AND ABRAHAM LOOKS AND
FINDS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT WAS
00:17:34.33\00:17:38.90
ISAAC BUT.
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IS THAT ALL IN THE QURAN TOO?
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YES.
00:17:40.90\00:17:42.63
SO THAT STORY IS THERE.
00:17:42.63\00:17:44.96
NOW YOU ASK THE QUESTION WHO
REALLY PROVIDED THE SACRIFICE?
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IT WAS GOD.
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O.K.
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TAKE THIS FROM THERE.
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I LEAVE THIS WITH YOU NOW.
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IT WAS GOD WHO
PROVIDED THE SACRIFICE.
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GO BACK NOW TO YOUR THOUGHT
HASIT ISA WHAT DO YOU THINK
00:18:04.53\00:18:12.40
HAPPENED AT THAT PLACE
WHERE HE WAS PUT ON THE CROSS?
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WHAT WAS GOD DOING?
00:18:16.56\00:18:18.63
WE BELIEVE THE THREE BOOKS:
THE TORAH, THE ZABUR- PSALMS AND
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PROPHETS; INJIL AND
THE FOURTH BOOK IS QURAN.
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IF YOU READ THE INJIL, YOU READ
THE STORY OF ABRAHAM AND HIS SON
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IN THE TORAH AND IF YOU READ THE
QURAN, YOU HAVE TO COMPARE NOW,
YOU ALWAYS SAY THERE IS A
00:18:32.00\00:18:35.70
DIFFERENCE THAT THESE ARE
SEPARATE, THAT THERE IS A LITTLE
00:18:35.70\00:18:38.23
BIT OF MAYBE ERROR
MIXED IN WITH THE TRUTH.
00:18:38.23\00:18:39.50
WHEN YOU FINISHED, TELL ME WHAT
THE MEANING OF THE SACRIFICE IS.
00:18:39.50\00:18:41.23
NEVER ARGUE.
00:18:41.23\00:18:42.23
JUST LOOK AT THAT.
00:18:42.23\00:18:43.23
ASK QUESTIONS.
00:18:43.23\00:18:44.20
AND THAT'S THE QUESTION
THAT THEY CANNOT ANSWER.
00:18:44.20\00:18:46.23
THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT YOU GET
AN ANSWER TO IN THE TORAH BUT
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ESPECIALLY DO YOU
GET IT IN THE GOSPELS.
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IN THE CONTEXT OF GOSPEL
OUTREACH, ARE YOU AS A GOSPEL
00:18:53.50\00:18:59.56
OUTREACH DIRECTOR, ABLE TO HELP
YOUR GOSPEL OUTREACH WORKERS
CONNECT WITH THE POPULATION IN
00:19:04.43\00:19:10.50
THAT WAY?
00:19:14.50\00:19:16.16
ACTUALLY, I DON'T
THINK WE'VE DONE WELL ENOUGH.
00:19:16.16\00:19:20.66
THIS LAST YEAR I SPENT EIGHT
MONTHS IN PAKISTAN AND BOTH IN
00:19:20.66\00:19:25.53
THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH WE
CALLED TOGETHER ALL THE GOSPEL
00:19:25.53\00:19:31.50
OUTREACH WORKERS. THEY WERE EACH
GIVEN A WEEK OF TRAINING AND I
THINK THAT THIS HAS TO
00:19:54.46\00:19:59.06
CONTINUE BECAUSE IN PAKISTAN
YOU WILL FIND GOSPEL OUTREACH
00:19:59.06\00:20:04.50
WORKERS WHO ARE NOT ONLY TRAINED
BUT ALSO GIFTED TO REACH-DUE TO
00:20:04.50\00:20:11.73
THEIR PERSONALITIES,THEIR
INTERESTS AND SO FORTH YOU FIND
OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE
00:20:11.73\00:20:16.03
NOT EQUIPPED TO
MINISTER IN THAT SAME WAY.
00:20:16.03\00:20:18.53
I THINK IT TAKES A SELECT GROUP
OF PEOPLE TO DO SOME OF THE
00:20:18.53\00:20:22.70
ANSWERS. SO I THINK THIS
NEEDS TO BE EXPLOITED MORE.
00:20:22.70\00:20:25.33
O.K.
00:20:25.33\00:20:26.76
GIVE ME-BECAUSE I WANT TO GO
TO ANOTHER TOPIC WITH YOU HERE
00:20:26.76\00:20:32.40
GEORGE, IN VERY BRIEF STATEMENT
TELL ME WHAT YOU WISH WOULD
HAPPEN AMONG THE PAKISTANI
00:20:36.56\00:20:42.63
POPULATION WITH THE
PRESENTATION ABOUT JESUS.
00:20:45.93\00:20:50.63
YOU KNOW, I WISH THAT THERE
COULD BE, I DESIRE, I PRAY THAT
00:20:50.63\00:20:56.83
THERE WOULD BE MORE FORUMS WHERE
WE COULD GET TOGETHER WITHOUT
RANKOR, AND BY THE WAY,
00:20:56.83\00:21:03.46
THIS OFTEN HAPPENS ONE
ON ONE BETWEEN FRIENDS.
00:21:03.46\00:21:06.53
INTERNET IS A SAFE PLACE.
00:21:06.53\00:21:10.16
MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE
EAST ARE LOGGING ON TO CHRISTIAN
00:21:10.16\00:21:14.73
PROGRAMS. I BELIEVE THAT THERE
ARE FORUMS THAT WE COULD USE TO
REALLY DISCUSS TRUTH
00:21:14.73\00:21:21.30
AND COMPARE BOOKS AND KNOWLEDGE.
00:21:21.30\00:21:23.30
ISN'T THIS THE METHOD WHERE WE
TAKE LINE ON LINE AND LAW ON LAW
00:21:23.30\00:21:29.36
AND WE BEGIN TO EXAMINE THAT
TO DISTILL OUT OF THERE THE MOST
00:21:31.33\00:21:36.33
TRUTH THAT IS
POSSIBLE FOR US TO UNDERSTAND?
00:21:36.33\00:21:38.70
RIGHT NOW WE REALIZE THAT WE ARE
NOT ARRIVED; WE DON'T HAVE IT
00:21:38.70\00:21:43.23
ALL. WELL, IT IS VERY
INSTRUCTIVE THAT YOU MAKE THE
00:21:43.23\00:21:48.26
REFERENCES FOR OUR BENEFIT.
00:21:48.26\00:21:49.76
HERE WE ARE IN THE WESTERN WORLD
AND THE BIBLE IS THE ULTIMATE
00:21:49.76\00:21:56.90
AUTHORITY FOR US. THAT IS NOT
THE CASE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND
SO YOU'VE MADE A VERY
00:21:56.90\00:22:02.13
INSTRUCTIVE POINT ABOUT
APPRECIATION FOR THE QURAN AND
00:22:02.13\00:22:08.10
UNDERSTANDING HOW THERE CAN BE
A CORRELATION IN SOME FASHION.
00:22:08.10\00:22:12.06
FINALLY, FOR TODAY GEORGE, I AM
CHALLENGED BY WHAT LITTLE I KNOW
00:22:12.06\00:22:18.13
ABOUT CHRISTIAN
EDUCATION IN PAKISTAN.
00:22:21.50\00:22:23.50
WHAT IS THE STATE OF CHRISTIAN
EDUCATION IN PAKISTAN TODAY?
00:22:23.50\00:22:26.80
WHAT IS THE VALUE
OF CHRISTIAN EDUCATION?
00:22:26.80\00:22:29.20
WHAT ARE THE
INVESTMENTS THAT SHOULD BE MADE?
00:22:29.20\00:22:36.70
WE FACE A REAL
CHALLENGE IN PAKISTAN.
00:22:36.70\00:22:39.30
FORTY YEARS AGO-FORTY SEVEN
OR EIGHT YEARS AGO,WHEN MY WIFE
00:22:39.30\00:22:45.00
WENT T T TO WORK CHRISTIAN
EDUCATION WAS PROBABLY AT ITS
00:22:45.00\00:22:51.06
HIGH POINT AND OUR SCHOOL FOR
EXAMPLE, WAS REALLY A TRAINING
CENTER FOR CHRISTIAN YOUNG
00:22:53.13\00:22:57.90
PEOPLE.
00:22:57.90\00:22:59.26
WE GRADUATED, WE HAD A COLLEGE
THERE-STILL DO BUT WE GRADUATED
00:22:59.26\00:23:01.46
SCORES OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WENT
INTO THE WORK AND SO FORTH-WELL
00:23:01.46\00:23:08.46
TRAINED. THROUGH THE
YEARS, THIS HAS DWINDLED.
00:23:08.46\00:23:12.26
BACK THEN THERE WAS A STRONG
WORK-STUDY PROGRAM ON CAMPUS.
00:23:12.26\00:23:16.96
MANY, MANY YOUNG PEOPLE
COULD COME WHO DID NOT HAVE THE
00:23:16.96\00:23:20.40
FINANCES TO ATTEND AND THEY
REALLY RECEIVED A SOLID
CHRISTIAN EDUCATION.
00:23:20.40\00:23:25.53
TODAY, THIS HAS DWINDLED.
00:23:25.53\00:23:27.33
NO MORE WORK-STUDY, IF YOU
CAN PAY THE FEES YOU GET IN.
00:23:27.33\00:23:31.03
IN FACT, A LARGE PART OF
THE EFFORT OF OUR SCHOOL NOW HAS
00:23:31.03\00:23:37.10
TURNED INTO JUST A COMMUNITY
LEARNING CENTER WHICH SERVES
EVERYONE AND TODAY THE
00:23:39.60\00:23:44.50
CHRISTIANS HAVE: A) BECOME A
MINORITY IN THE SCHOOL AND
SECONDLY, WE ARE KIND OF RUNNING
00:23:44.50\00:23:50.56
A DUAL SYSTEM WHERE ON ONE
SIDE OF THECAMPUS THERE WOULD BE
00:23:54.83\00:24:00.16
ISLAMIAT
TAUGHT-ISLAM AND SO FORTH.
00:24:00.16\00:24:03.23
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
CAMPUS CHRISTIANITY IS TAUGHT.
00:24:03.23\00:24:06.96
THE SCHOOL BODY PROBABLY
TODAY HAS ABOUT FIFTEEN PER R NT
00:24:06.96\00:24:11.00
SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST STUDENTS
WHO ARE STUDYING IN SCHOOL.
00:24:11.00\00:24:13.00
THE REST ARE OTHER
GROUPS WHO CAN PAY THE FEES.
00:24:13.00\00:24:17.36
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
00:24:19.83\00:24:21.16
I MEAN BASICALLY, WE'VE LEFT OUR
PATTERN OF EDUCATION AND TODAY
00:24:21.16\00:24:29.03
THE EDUCATION
OFFICE IS NOT THE SAME.
00:24:29.03\00:24:31.20
WHAT
PRACTICALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN?
00:24:31.20\00:24:33.63
IS THERE ANYTHING
PRACTICALLY THAT CAN HAPPEN?
00:24:33.63\00:24:35.63
I THINK WE'VE GOT TO STOP BEING
SO FOCUSED ON MONEY AND WE NEED
00:24:35.63\00:24:42.26
TO BEGIN TO FOCUS
REALLY ON MISSION AND QUALITY.
00:24:42.26\00:24:44.23
THIS IS GOING TO TAKE TIME.
00:24:44.23\00:24:47.73
WE TOOK SOME CONCRETE
STEPS THE LAST TWELVE MONTHS.
00:24:47.73\00:24:53.10
FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY THERE IS
A SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM IN PLACE
00:24:53.10\00:24:58.60
THAT HAS A POTENTIAL OF
SERVING ABOUT 250 STUDENTS.
00:24:58.60\00:25:02.13
BY THE WAY, INADDITION TO THE
LARGE SCHOOL AND COLLEGE THAT IS
00:25:02.13\00:25:07.90
IN PLACE IN PUNJAB, THERE ARE
TWELVE CITY SCHOOLS, OH, PLACED
IN DIFFERENT CITIES
00:25:07.90\00:25:12.00
WITH ABOUT 2500
STUDENTS STUDYING THERE.
00:25:12.00\00:25:15.26
THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FEEDERS
TO THE BIGGER INSTITUTION.
00:25:15.26\00:25:19.86
SO, MANY OF THE SCHOLARSHIPS ARE
GOING TO THOSE SCHOOLS AND THEY
00:25:19.86\00:25:24.10
IN TURN CAN FORWARD THOSE ON
THE SCHOLARSHIP AMOUNT IS A VERY
00:25:24.10\00:25:28.36
MINOR AMOUNT. IT IS $5 A MONTH
BUT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR A
POOR FAMILY TO GET THEIR
00:25:28.36\00:25:31.33
CHILD INTO SCHOOL.
00:25:31.33\00:25:34.03
WELL, I WANTED JUST SOME
STATEMENT BECAUSE PEOPLE ASK,
00:25:34.03\00:25:41.73
WHAT IS THE STATE?
WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES?
00:25:41.73\00:25:45.16
BECAUSE I KNOW PAKISTANIS IN
NORTH AMERICA WHO REMEMBER SO
00:25:45.16\00:25:51.20
WELL THE FOUNDATION THAT BLESSED
THEM IN THEIR EARLY LIVES AND
00:25:51.20\00:25:55.93
THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THAT FOR THE
CONTINUING POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE
00:25:55.93\00:26:00.76
IN PAKISTAN TODAY. WELL, WE KNOW
WHAT TO PRAY ABOUT IF NOTHING
00:26:00.76\00:26:04.40
ELSE. YES.
00:26:04.40\00:26:05.83
AND I HAVE BEEN ALERT TO THE
FACT THAT ADVENTIST EDUCATION
00:26:05.83\00:26:12.96
MAY BE THE ONLY HOPE OF
EDUCATION FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE
IN THE OUTLYING AREAS BUT IF
00:26:12.96\00:26:17.76
THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY
THEN THAT IS A CHALLENGE TOO.
00:26:17.76\00:26:21.16
SO WITH THAT GOSPEL OUTREACH
FAMILY, YOU'VE HEARD A LITTLE
00:26:21.16\00:26:26.43
MORE ABOUT THE CHALLENGES AND
THE WORK IN THE 10/40 WINDOW
WITH PARTICULAR FOCUS ON
00:26:26.43\00:26:31.96
PAKISTAN AND WHAT BROTHER
GEORGE HAS BROUGHT TO US TODAY.
00:26:31.96\00:26:39.93
I WANT TO ASK YOU TO PRAY
ESPECIALLY FOR THE WORKERS IN
00:26:39.93\00:26:42.80
PAKISTAN AND THE CHALLENGES THAT
ACCRUE TO CHRISTIAN
EDUCATION-SEVENTH DAY
00:26:42.80\00:26:47.03
ADVENTIST EDUCATION.
00:26:47.03\00:26:48.33
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DESPERATELY
NEED THE ADVANTAGES WE KNOW IN
00:26:48.33\00:26:52.90
OUR ECONOMY, IN OUR WORLD
AND THEY ARE GOD'S PEOPLE TOO.
00:26:52.90\00:26:56.73
SO, LISTEN CAREFULLY TO THE HOLY
SPIRIT AND DO WHAT YOU BELIEVE
00:26:56.73\00:27:02.86
WHAT GOD WOULD HAVE
YOU DO FOR THIS WORK.
00:27:08.83\00:27:15.36
[CLOSING MUSIC].
00:27:15.36\00:27:16.20
I NEED TO SPREAD
THE GOSPEL HERE AT HOME.
00:27:16.20\00:27:18.53
WHERE IS THE
10/40 WINDOW ANYWAY?
00:27:18.53\00:27:22.26
THOSE PEOPLE ARE TOO FAR AWAY.
00:27:22.26\00:27:24.86
SOMEONE ELSE CAN
TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS.
00:27:24.86\00:27:27.30
MAYBE THEY COULD JUST WATCH TV?
00:27:27.30\00:27:31.00
NEARLY THREE BILLION
PEOPLE TO REACH, MY HEAD HURTS.
00:27:31.00\00:27:36.60
THERE'S NOTHING I
CAN DO, I GIVE UP.
00:27:36.60\00:27:39.66
WHAT'S THE POINT OF TRYING?
00:27:39.66\00:27:41.70
I CAN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
00:27:41.70\00:27:43.33
ACTUALLY YOU CAN MAKE A
DIFFERENCE AND JESUS ASKED YOU
00:27:43.33\00:27:50.26
TO GO TO ALL THE WORLD.
00:27:50.26\00:27:51.26
WHERE?
00:27:51.26\00:27:52.26
ALL THE WORLD.
00:27:52.26\00:27:53.26
HOW CAN I GO I HAVE COMMITMENTS?
00:27:53.26\00:27:55.36
YOU CAN PRAY.
00:27:55.36\00:27:57.50
YOU CAN VOLUNTEER YOUR TALENTS.
00:27:57.50\00:28:02.43
YOU CAN TELL OTHERS.
00:28:02.43\00:28:06.46
YOU CAN GIVE MONEY TO
SPONSOR BIBLE WORKERS.
00:28:06.46\00:28:09.30
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING
FOR HOPE AND MEANING BUT THEY
00:28:09.30\00:28:12.96
WON'T FIND IT WITHOUT YOU.
00:28:12.96\00:28:14.40
BE THE SPARK.
00:28:14.40\00:28:15.90
LIGHT THE FIRE.
00:28:15.90\00:28:18.30
FINISH THE WORK.
00:28:18.30\00:28:22.16
FINISH THE WORK.
00:28:22.16\00:28:26.03
BE THE SPARK.
00:28:26.03\00:28:29.93