Participants: Rumiana Motzev
Series Code: AIM
Program Code: AIM000485
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00:00 [OPENING MUSIC].
00:22 HELLO, GOOD FRIENDS. 00:23 I'M SO DELIGHTED TO BE HERE TO WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO ANOTHER PROGRAM OF 00:27 "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS". 00:29 AND YOU KNOW BY NOW THAT THIS IS WHERE WE HEAR THE GOSPEL OUTREACH STORIES AS 00:35 STRAIGHT FROM THE FRONT LINES AS WE CAN POSSIBLY HEAR THEM. 00:39 AND I GET TO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF INTRODUCING PEOPLE WHO ARE REGIONAL 00:43 DIRECTORS FOR GOSPEL OUTREACH IN TOUCH WITH WHO THE FRONT LINE WORKERS ARE 00:49 AND EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE. 00:51 SO TOGETHER WE REJOICE AT GOD'S BLESSING THROUGH THIS VERY IMPORTANT 00:58 MINISTRY OF THE 21ST CENTURY. 01:01 NOW USUALLY I AM TALKING ABOUT MY DEAR, DEAR FRIENDS FROM OTHER TIMES 01:06 AND PLACES. 01:07 TODAY I HAVE THE EXTRA SPECIAL PRIVILEGE OF MEETING WITH YOU AND 01:13 INTRODUCING A NEW FRIEND-A LADY WHO IS THE NEWEST REGIONAL DIRECTOR IN 01:21 GOSPEL OUTREACH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. 01:23 HER NAME IS RUMIANA MOTZEVA. 01:26 SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE AND YOU SAW HER NAME APPEAR ON THE SCREEN AND 01:33 IN CASE I GET MY TANG A BIT TONGULED, YOU KNOW THAT SAYING, MY TONGUE 01:37 TANGLED-I'M PERMITTED TO CALL HER RUMI. 01:41 IS THAT O.K.? YES. 01:43 I'M SO GLAD TO BE HERE WITH YOU, RUMI. 01:45 THANK YOU. 01:46 I'M JUST DAN, BY THE WAY. 01:47 AND YOU'VE BEEN AROUND COLLEGE PLACE YOU TOLD ME FOR NINE YEARS NOW, YES, 01:54 AT GOSPEL OUTREACH HEADQUARTERS BUT YOU CAME TO BE AT THE UNIVERSITY? 02:00 NO, MY HUSBAND IS TEACHING AT WALLA WALLA UNIVERSITY IN BUSINESS SCHOOL. 02:06 AND YOU HAVE A SON? 02:08 WE HAVE A SON AND A DAUGHTER. 02:12 A SON AND DAUGHTER. 02:16 I WAS ALERT WHEN I HEARD ABOUT YOUR SON, HIS NAME IS DANIEL. 02:19 DANIEL, YES. 02:21 SO YOU KNOW, HE'S REMINDED, I KNOW, THAT GOD IS MY JUDGE AND I'M ALWAYS 02:28 INTERESTED IN MEETING ANOTHER DANIEL AND SO MAYBE SOMETIME I'LL GET TO 02:33 MEET HIM AS WELL. 02:34 WHAT DOES YOUR HUSBAND TEACH? 02:37 BUSINESS STATISTICS, COMPUTERS. 02:39 OH. 02:40 NO WONDER HE IS IN DEMAND THEN. 02:42 IN THE 21ST CENTURY TECHNICAL DEMANDS THE LIKES OF HIS SKILLS. 02:47 YES. 02:48 ALRIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT YOU, RUMI. 02:51 YOU'VE BEEN SERVING WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH HOW LONG? 02:56 I BEGAN TO SERVE IN GOSPEL OUTREACH 2005, IT WAS, I BELIEVE. 03:04 YOU KNOW I NEED TO TELL OUR VIEWERS THAT THE DOORS ARE ALWAYS OPEN HERE AT 03:10 GOSPEL OUTREACH AND IF ANYBODY GETS CLOSE ENOUGH, WE GET WELCOMED IN TO BE A 03:14 PART OF THE GOSPEL OUTREACH FAMILY. 03:16 SO WHAT DID YOU START DOING? 03:18 IT WAS VERY HARD FOR ME BECAUSE WHEN I ARRIVED IN THE STATES I DIDN'T SPEAK 03:23 THE LANGUAGE, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE AND GOSPEL OUTREACH HELPED 03:28 ME A LOT.WOW. 03:31 SO I WAS DOING THIS AND THAT AND I WAS HELPING IN THE MAILING ROOM WITH 03:36 STUFFING THE ENVELOPES AND SEALING THE ENVELOPES. 03:40 SOMETIMES WE MAIL OUT THOUSANDS OF ENVELOPES. 03:44 WELL, I WILL ALMOST USE THE TERM YOUR GOSPEL OUTREACH EXPERIENCE AND I 03:51 KNOW MANY OF THE OTHER EXPERIENCES AS WELL THAT HAVE HELPED YOU PRETTY 03:55 CLOSE TO MASTERING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. 03:57 IT IS VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND YOU. 03:59 THANK YOU. 04:00 SO, YOU ARE FEELING AT HOME HERE THEN? 04:04 YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO HOME FOR ME ESPECIALLY ON THE PLANET. 04:08 AH, BLESS YOUR HEART. 04:10 SO WHEREVER GOD WANTS ME TO BE, I'M THERE. 04:13 GOOD. 04:14 GOOD. 04:15 AND NOW YOU ARE THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR AND EXPLAIN TO US WHAT YOUR 04:22 REGION INCLUDES. 04:26 MY REGION INCLUDES BULGARIA, MACEDONIA AND TURKEY. 04:30 I BEGAN TO HELP THERE MAYBE IT WAS ABOUT 5 YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE WERE 04:36 FRIENDS WITH THE FORMER REGIONAL DIRECTOR, ZDRAVKO STEFANOVICH. 04:40 HE IS STILL A REGIONAL DIRECTOR BUT THERE ARE MANY COUNTRIES ON THE 04:48 BALKANS AND ONCE I BEGAN TO HELP HIM GOING BACK THERE IN EUROPE WITH 04:55 CONNECTING WITH THE BULGARIAN UNION AND NOW A PASTOR IN TURKEY WHO IS 05:00 BULGARIAN AND TURK. 05:02 OH. 05:03 AND I KNOW HIM AND THEN LAST YEAR HE JUST ASKED ME WHETHER I WILL BE ABLE TO 05:12 ACCEPT A KIND OF -TO WORK THERE AS A REGIONAL DIRECTOR. 05:20 I WAS VOTED LAST SUMMER TWO WEEKS BEFORE MY LEAVING TO EUROPE. 05:27 OH REALLY. 05:29 AND IT WAS PRETTY SCARY FOR ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY I CAN DO 05:34 THERE BECAUSE I AM JUST A LADY. 05:37 A VERY SPECIAL LADY. 05:40 IT IS NOT SO MUCH THAT I CAN DO MOST OF MY LIFE I WAS A MOTHER. 05:46 SO, BUT GOD ANSWERED TO ME VERY QUICKLY. 05:54 ONCE WE ARRIVED THERE LAST SUMMER WE WERE INVITED TO ATTEND A MUSLIM CONFERENCE 06:02 IN ISTANBUL. 06:03 REALLY. 06:04 THERE WERE MAYBE ABOUT 50 PEOPLE THERE AT THE CONFERENCE. 06:10 AND STEVEN DICKEY WAS THE SPEAKER. 06:13 YES, I RECOGNIZE THAT NAME. 06:17 I'VE SEEN-I HAVE NEVER MET HIM BUT I'VE SEEN HIS BOOKS. 06:22 YES. 06:23 O.K. 06:24 YES. 06:25 SO I WAS REALLY SURPRISED HOW EASY IT IS TO BECOME A FRIEND, A VERY CLOSE 06:30 FRIEND, WITH THE MUSLIM PEOPLE IN TURKEY. 06:33 INTERESTING. 06:34 SO NOW WE HAVE TWO WORKERS IN TURKEY. 06:42 ONE OF THEM IS WORKING IN ISTANBUL. 06:45 THE OTHER ONE IS WORKING IN AZERBAIJAN BUT TWO OF THEM ARE VERY VALUABLE TO 06:51 US. 06:53 WE HAVE THREE WORKERS IN BULGARIA AND TWO WORKERS IN MACEDONIA. 07:01 NOW LET'S JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR VIEWERS, YOUR NATIVE COUNTRY IS 07:08 BULGARIA. 07:09 BULGARIA, YES. 07:10 AND THAT'S YOUR LANGUAGE? 07:12 YES. 07:13 AND SO IT IS OBVIOUS TO ME THAT YOU ARE THE RIGHT ONE TO BE THERE BECAUSE OF 07:21 YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE CULTURE AND YOUR ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM 07:27 IN THEIR OWN TERMINOLOGIES. 07:29 SO, IT APPEARS IN MY MIND THAT GOD HAS HAD HIS HAND OVER THIS ALL THE WHILE IN 07:40 BRINGING YOU FOLKS HERE TO COLLEGE PLACE IN ANTICIPATION OF ZDRAVKO 07:47 STEFANOVICH'S TRANSFERRING AWAY FROM HERE AND THERE NEEDED TO BE A LEADER AND 07:55 GOD HAD PREPARED YOU FOR THAT LEADERSHIP ROLE. 07:59 I WELCOME YOU. 08:00 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 08:01 AND WE ARE SO HAPPY FOR WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US. 08:03 NOW, YOU MENTIONED BULGARIA, MACEDONIA, TURKEYEYEYEYEYRE THE THREE 08:13 PRIMARY COUNTRIES? 08:14 YES. 08:17 HOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THE WORD, BUT HOW MANY BELIEVERS, ADVENTIST 08:27 BELIEVERS ARE THERE IN THOSE COUNTRIES? 08:31 I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF BELIEVERS BUT ESPECIALLY IN TURKEY WE HAVE LESS 08:35 THAN 100 ADVENTISTS, ESPECIALLY. 08:39 BUT THERE IS A PASTOR THERE? 08:40 THERE IS A PASTOR THERE AND NOW THERE IS A NEW DIRECTOR THERE FOR TURKEY 08:45 AND NORTH CYPRUS. 08:47 O.K. 08:49 IT WAS MY PURPOSE TO VISIT THIS SUMMER IN ISTANBUL TO MEET HIM BECAUSE MAYBE IT 08:56 WAS IN DECEMBER LAST YEAR, A KIND OF MISUNDERSTANDING, A 09:05 CULTURAL MISUNDERSTANDING BEGAN IN TURKEY. 09:11 SO WE WENT THROUGH KIND OF A CRISIS THERE. 09:15 BECAUSE IT IS NOT EASY FOR US, AS CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND, THAT GOING IN 09:22 THE MUMUIM WORLD WE SHOULD ACT LIKE GUESTS THERE. 09:28 I HOPE YOU VIEWERS GOT WHAT RUMI SAID. 09:34 SOMETIMES WE WESTERNERS FEEL SO SECURE EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD WE MAY TAKE 09:43 ON AN ATTITUDE OF OWNERSHIP AND WHAT RUMI IS UNDERSCORING IS THE 09:50 IMPORTANCE-IF WE ARE TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE IN ANY KIND OF RESPECTFUL 09:56 FASHION, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE ARE VISITORS AND GUESTS IN 10:01 THEIR ENVIRONMENT. 10:03 YES. 10:04 THAT'S A POWERFUL OBSERVATION YOU ARE MAKING FOR US. 10:06 I THINK THAT PROBABLY POINTS UP THE CHALLENGE THAT RESTS UPON ALL OF US 10:14 IN ALL OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, THAT WE SHOULD NOT OVERRIDE OR PUSH PEOPLE. 10:21 YES, THAT IS CORRECT BECAUSE OUR WORKERS IN BULGARIA-THEY TOLD ME THE 10:28 SAME. 10:29 BECAUSE WE HAVE MANY TURKISH PEOPLE IN BULGARIA. 10:32 THEY ARE BULGARIAN CITIZENS BUT THEY HAVE BEEN BORN TURKISH, THIS IS 10:41 COMING FROM THE HISTORY BACK IN TIME. 10:44 SO THEY TOLD US WHEN WE GO TO THEIR VILLAGES WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE 10:51 VISITORS THERE AND WE MUST FIND THE WAY HOW TO MAKE THEM ACCEPT US. 11:00 HOW DO YOU DO THAT? 11:01 SO USUALLY THEY JUST TRY TO SPEAK WITH PEOPLE. 11:07 GO TO THE MARKETS. 11:10 INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TRYING TO GIVE THEM VERY SIMPLE HEALTH ADVICES 11:16 BECAUSE THEY KNOW PRACTICALLY NOTHING ABOUT HEALTHY LIVING OR STUFF 11:21 LIKE THAT. 11:22 SO WE HAVE A REAL OPPORTUNITY ESPECIALLY IN TURKEY TO REACH PEOPLE. 11:28 BUT WE MUST NOT FORGET THAT OUR MESSAGE TO THE MUSLIM PEOPLE IS TO TELL 11:37 THEM ABOUT JESUS, ABOUT HIS LOVE AND TO MAKE THEM ACCEPT HIM. 11:43 NOT TO MAKE THEM CHRISTIANS. 11:48 BECAUSE I WAS REALLY SURPRISED BOTH OUR PASTOR AND HIS WIFE TOLD US THIS 11:54 TIME WHEN WE WERE IN ISTANBUL, THEY TOLD US, EVEN WE ACCEPTED JESUS 12:00 ABOUT 32 YEARS AGO, WE ARE STILL MUSLIMS. 12:05 THAT IS A VERY, VERY PROFOUND OBSERVATION YOU MAKE, RUMI. 12:15 THIS IS NOT OUR PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, BUT I JUST RETURNED FROM INDONESIA A 12:19 FEW DAYS BEFORE THIS TAPING AND I DISCOVERED THE SAME THING THERE. 12:29 I GO BACK TO THE PRINCIPLE YOU WERE UNDERSCORING A BIT AGO THAT WE 12:34 WESTERNERS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO ANYWHERE AND WE CAN TALK TO ANYBODY AND YOU 12:39 ACCEPT US FOR WHO WE ARE IF WE SAY SO, BUT IN MUCH OF THE WORLD WE HAVE TO 12:47 REMEMBER THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT LIKE US. 12:49 WE ARE NOT LIKE THEM AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW THAT WE RESPECT THEM 12:56 FOR WHO THEY ARE AND MUST APPROACH THEM ON THE BASIS OF THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND 13:03 NOT OUR UNDERSTANDING. 13:04 YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 13:05 SO YOU HAVE MADE A PROFOUND OBSERVATION. 13:08 THERE FOR 32 YEARS, TELL ME-FOR 32 YEARS THEN THIS FOLLOWER OF JESUS, PASTOR 13:20 IS STILL A PART OF THE MUSLIM CULTURE. 13:22 YES, BECAUSE THEY TOLD US OUR FAMILIES, BOTH OF THEM, ARE MUSLIMS. 13:31 OUR LIFESTYLE IS AS ALL OTHER MUSLIMS. 13:35 WE CONTINUE TO LIVE IN OUR MUSLIM ENVIRONMENTS AND WE JUST KNOW THE CULTURE. 13:46 THAT'S WHY THEY ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN TURKEY BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO 13:50 REACH PEOPLE THERE. 13:53 RUMI, IN YOU GOING THERE NOW AS A NORTH AMERICAN, ARE YOU ABLE TO -BECAUSE 14:09 IF YOU WERE TO SAY, I SERVE GOD ALSO, BUT I'M NOT A MUSLIM. 14:16 HOW DO THEY RELATE TO THAT? 14:21 YOU KNOW, I WAS TOLD SOMETHING LAST SUMMER WHEN WE WERE THERE. 14:27 O.K. 14:29 TO SERVE MUSLIMS, TO REACH MUSLIMS YOU MUST BECOME A MUSLIM IN YOUR HEART. 14:38 INTERESTING. 14:39 YOU MUST ACCEPT YOURSELF AS ONE OF THEM AND THE SECRET TO REACH MUSLIMS IS 14:50 TO WIN THEIR TRUST. 14:53 IF THEY TRUST YOU, IF THEY ACCEPT YOU AS A FRIEND THEY WILL OPEN THEIR 15:00 HOUSES AND THEIR HEARTS FOR YOU. 15:03 THAT'S WHY THIS SUMMER WHEN WE WERE THERE, WE VISITED OUR WORKER WHO IS 15:08 WORKING IN ISTANBUL AT HOME. 15:11 AND IT WAS AN ENORMOUS PRIVILEGE FOR HIS FAMILY. 15:15 HE IS SHARING A VERY SMALL APARTMENT WITH HIS MOTHER AND HIS SISTER'S FAMILY. 15:23 AND HE IS WORKING A REALLY UNEXPLAINABLE, FOR ME, JOB. 15:25 HIS WORK IS AMAZING. 15:27 HE IS DOING THAT WITH JUST ONE VERY OLD COMPUTER IN THE CORNER OF HIS VERY 15:41 SMALL BEDROOM. 15:42 AND LAST SUMMER HE SHOWED US THAT HE BEGAN TO WORK ON THE WEBSITE PRESENTING 15:52 THE DOCTRINES OF THE BIBLE. 15:56 NOW HE LOADED "JESUS", THE WHOLE MOVIE AND THE WEBSITE COULD BE VISITED 16:04 BY ALL OVER THE WORLD. 16:07 AND I TALKED WITH THEM LAST WEEK AND HE WAS SO EXCITED BECAUSE HE TOLD ME 16:13 JUST IN ONE DAY ABOUT 24 HOURS THE WEBSITE WAS VISITED BY 160 PEOPLE. 16:21 WHAT A BLESSING! 16:23 HE TOLD ME IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME TO HAVE JUST TWO MORE POWERFUL 16:28 COMPUTERS, A PHONE TO BE IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE ALL THE TIME AND A SMALL PLACE 16:35 WHERE I CAN MAKE A KIND OF STUDIO. 16:39 HE IS IN THE PROCESS OF STARTING INTERNET RADIO. 16:43 OH YES. 16:45 AND THE IDEA TO START THIS RADIO BEGAN FROM MY COUNTRY, FROM BULGARIA. 16:54 THAT'S WHY IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SEPARATE THE COUNTRIES 16:58 THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE TURKS IN BULGARIA AND IN MACEDONIA, TOO. 17:03 SURE. 17:05 AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A PASTOR IN BULGARIA WHO IS SPEAKING TURKISH BUT SOME 17:12 PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND VERY WELL BULGARIAN, THEY WANT TO 17:17 LISTEN TO SERMONS AND WE HAVE JUST ONE PERSON FROM TURKISH ORIGIN WHO IS 17:28 WORKING IN BULGARIA. 17:30 AND THEY ARE CONNECTED AND HE ASKED OUR WORKER, GOSPEL OUTREACH IN 17:37 ISTANBUL, IF THERE IS ANYWAY FOR HIM TO LOAD SOME SERMONS ON THE 17:44 WEBSITE. 17:45 IN THIS WAY PEOPLE CAN LISTEN TO SERMONS. 17:48 YOU KNOW RUMI, I WANT TO TALK DIRECTLY TO OUR VIEWERS JUST A LITTLE BIT 17:54 HERE. 17:56 YOU STILL HAVE IN MIND, AS I DO, THE APPEAL I HEARD RUMI MAKE JUST MINUTES AGO 18:04 FOR THIS YOUNG WORKER WHO IS DOING AS MUCH AS HE CAN; SO MUCH WITH SO 18:11 LITTLE AND HE NEEDS RESOURCES IN ORDER JUST AMPLIFY AND EXTEND THE 18:20 MINISTRY THAT HE HAS UNDERTAKEN AND I CAN BEGIN JUST A LITTLE TO SHARE HIS 18:26 EXCITEMENT---160 HITS IN ONE 24 HOUR PERIOD TO HIS NEW WEBSITE INDICATES 18:35 PROBABLY THOUSANDS OF OTHERS WHO MAYBE SEEING IT BUT HAVE NOT RESPONDED 18:41 YET. 18:42 SO, IF YOU ARE WONDERING IF GOSPEL OUTREACH IS A VALUABLE PLACE FOR YOUR 18:48 INVESTMENTS, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SPEAKING OFF LIMITS NOW BUT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO 18:54 SPECIFICALLY ASSIST RUMI'S REGION WITH PROVIDING SOME RESOURCES TO GET THOSE 19:04 COMPUTERS. 19:05 I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THAT WITH YOU. 19:07 RIGHT NOW, THE ADDRESS FOR GOSPEL OUTREACH, THE WEBSITE, THE EMAIL 19:12 ADDRESS, AND THE TELEPHONE NUMBER IS ALL RIGHT THERE AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE 19:16 YOU TO BE IN TOUCH WITH GOSPEL OUTREACH. 19:19 THIS IS YOUR MINISTRY TOO. 19:21 YOU ARE A PART OF THE GOSPEL OUTREACH FAMILY AND THIS IS A WAY THAT YOU CAN 19:26 EVEN CONNECT WITH RUMI'S REGION ALL THE WAY OVER TO TURKEY, BULGARIA, 19:31 MACEDONIA BECAUSE GOD'S PEOPLE ARE THERE AND JESUS IS WAITING FOR THEM TO BE 19:37 GATHERED IN TO HIS KINGDOM. 19:39 SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRAYERS AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU WILL DO. 19:45 THANK YOU. 19:46 RUMI, THAT'S VERY MOVING FOR ME. 19:48 I'M GOING BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THIS IS, AND FOR WANT OF A 19:51 BETTER WORD, THIS IS A REVOLUTIONARY IDEA THAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED BUT IT 20:02 SHOULDN'T BE REVOLUTIONARY BECAUSE PAUL SAID WHEN IN ROME DO AS THE ROMANS DO. 20:06 YES. 20:08 YOU ARE JUST TAKING THIS SAME PRINCIPLE WHEN MINISTERING TO GOD'S 20:10 PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, YOU BECOME A MUSLIM. 20:17 YES. 20:18 HOW DID YOU BECOME A MUSLIM? 20:26 WHAT DID THAT MEAN TO YOU? 20:28 WHAT IT MEANS TO ME-JUST TO LOVE PEOPLE BECAUSE AS A BIOLOGICAL SPECIES WE 20:34 ARE THE SAME AND I REALIZE THAT WE CAN HAVE FRIENDS EVERYWHERE. 20:40 ONCE WE MENTION THAT WE HAD DIFFERENT RELIGIONS AND WE BECAME ENEMIES. 20:48 DIVIDE. 20:49 YES. 20:50 DID YOU PUT ON HEADDRESS AND? 20:52 NO, NO. 20:55 SO, THAT WASN'T NECESSARY? 21:00 NO, NO. 21:01 YOU WERE ONE OF THEM? 21:02 NO. 21:03 YOU KNOW ISTANBUL IS NOT TURKEY. 21:06 O.K. 21:07 ISTANBUL IS A VERY SECULAR CITY. 21:09 O.K. 21:10 SO THIS MAKES WESTERNERS TO MISUNDERSTAND TURKEY, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY 21:23 ACCEPT ISTANBUL AS TURKEY. 21:25 THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO OUR NEW DIRECTOR IN ISTANBUL. 21:32 HE IS FROM ROMANIA. 21:33 HIS NAME IS DANIEL NYE. 21:39 I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO HIM THAT JUST TO BE IN ISTANBUL DOESN'T MEAN THAT 21:45 YOU ARE SAFE. 21:47 BECAUSE IT IS NOT SAFE TO WORK IN TURKEY, ESPECIALLY. 21:53 IF YOU LEAVE ISTANBUL, YOU WILL FACE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REALITY. 21:58 OH YES. 22:00 AND BECAUSE I HAVE TURKISH FRIENDS IN MY COUNTRY AND THEY'RE VERY ACCEPTABLE, 22:09 VERY OPEN BUT ONCE THEY FEEL THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THEIR WORLD THEY 22:17 WILL SHUT UP AND THEY WILL NEVER OPEN THEIR HEARTS AGAIN FOR YOU. 22:24 NEVER? 22:25 NEVER. 22:26 NEVER BECAUSE YOU BROKE THEIR TRUST. 22:28 YES. 22:29 YES. 22:30 THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO DANIEL THAT HE MUST BE VERY WISE IF HE 22:38 WANTS TO ORGANIZE OUR MISSION THERE OR CHURCH MISSION THERE IN TURKEY 22:47 SUCCESSFULLY. 22:48 WHAT KIND OF INTERFACING, INTERACTING IS THERE BETWEEN THE FEWER THAN 100 23:00 BELIEVERS IN TURKEY AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES? 23:06 DO THEY HAVE CONNECTIONS? 23:10 UNFORTUNATELY, NO. 23:13 THEY DON'T HAVE SUCH CONNECTIONS BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE FOREIGNERS. 23:19 OH REALLY. 23:20 YES. 23:21 THEY DON'T, SOMEHOW THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE CONCEPT THAT YOU HAVE 23:30 ABOUT HOW WE RELATE TO THE REST OF THE POPULATION. 23:33 NO, THIS IS NOT MY CONCEPT. 23:36 THIS IS THE CONCEPT OF OUR TURKISH PASTOR THERE. 23:40 YES, NO I MEAN YOU VOICE IT FOR THEM. 23:44 AS I TOLD YOU, HE IS FROM BULGARIA, YES, BUT HE HAS BEEN SENT THERE TO WORK IN 23:51 TURKEY ABOUT 17 YEARS AGO. 23:53 IS THAT RIGHT? 23:55 YES, SO FINALLY, FINALLY DANIEL AND I REALIZED AFTER SO MANY 24:02 CONVERSATIONS AND MORE PEOPLE THAN ME WERE INVOLVED, O.K., AND TALKED 24:11 TO HIM AND TRYING TO EXPLAIN BECAUSE HE IS PRETTY NEW THERE. 24:17 SURE. 24:18 AS THE CULTURE, AS THE LANGUAGE HE DOESN'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE AND HE 24:22 DOESN'T KNOW THE CULTURE. 24:25 SO FINALLY HE UNDERSTOOD THAT HE MUST SEPARATE THE TWO APPROACHES. 24:33 O.K. 24:35 THE CHRISTIAN APPROACH TO WORK WITH MUSLIMS AND THE MUSLIMS APPROACH TO WORK 24:43 WITH MUSLIMS. 24:44 THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. 24:46 WOW! 24:47 YOU HAVE GIVEN US SIGNIFICANT FOOD FOR THOUGHT, RUMI. 24:57 I MADE REFERENCE TO THE ONE COMPUTER NEED THAT YOU SPOKE OF. 25:02 WHAT DO YOU HAVE AS YOUR VISION FOR THE GOSPEL OUTREACH WORK IN YOUR 25:10 REGION? 25:13 I'M WORKING NOW ON MY REPORT ABOUT WHAT I HAVE DONE THERE AND IT IS NOT 25:19 EASY FOR ME BECAUSE AS I TOLD YOU; THERE IS NO WAY TO SEPARATE THE WORK FOR 25:27 GOSPEL OUTREACH IN BULGARIA, MACEDONIA AND TURKEY. 25:31 TURKEY IS A LITTLE BIT FAR FROM TURKEY BUT WHEN I WAS THERE, OUR PEOPLE THERE 25:39 READY VERY EXCITED TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN 25:46 TURKEY. 25:47 SO WHAT IS MY VISION THAT I SPOKE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE BULGARIAN UNION? 25:52 BECAUSE WE MET WITH THEM SEVERAL TIMES AND WE WERE DISCUSSING HOW EVENTUALLY 26:01 WE CAN START TO WORK WITH THE MUSLIMS IN BULGARIA. 26:05 SO, IN ISTANBUL THE NEW DIRECTOR AND THE COMMITTEE THERE, THEY VOTED FOR OUR 26:17 TURKISH PASTOR TO MOVE IN THE WEST PART OF ISTANBUL BECAUSE HE'S BEEN WORKING 26:25 IN THE VERY CENTER OF ISTANBUL. 26:28 AND NOW HE IS MOVING TO THE AREA OF ISTANBUL WHICH IS CLOSER TO BULGARIA. 26:34 RUMI, YOU KNOW I JUST LOOKED AT THE CLOCK. 26:38 WE NEED TO TALK MORE SO THAT YOU CAN DETAIL LOTS OF THIS INFORMATION. 26:44 WE NEED TO KNOW IT AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO YOU, 26:49 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I THINK I CATCH YOUR VISION BUT WE NEED TO TALK SOME MORE 26:54 ABOUT. 26:55 I'M GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN ARRANGE TO DO ANOTHER PROGRAM O.K. 26:57 WHEN WE CAN EXPLORE THIS MORE. 26:59 THANK YOU FOLKS FOR BEING WITH US AND I WANT YOU TO BE WITH US NEXT TIME TOO. 27:06 [CLOSING MUSIC]. 27:11 I NEED TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL HERE AT HOME. 27:18 WHERE IS THE 10/40 WINDOW ANYWAY? 27:21 THOSE PEOPLE ARE TOO FAR AWAY. 27:24 SOMEONE ELSE CAN TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS. 27:26 MAYBE THEY COULD JUST WATCH TV? 27:30 NEARLY THREE BILLION PEOPLE TO REACH, MY HEAD HURTS. 27:36 THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO, I GIVE UP. 27:39 WHAT'S THE POINT OF TRYING? 27:40 I CAN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 27:42 ACTUALLY YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND JESUS ASKED YOU TO GO TO ALL THE 27:48 WORLD. 27:49 WHERE? 27:50 ALL THE WORLD. 27:52 HOW CAN I GO I HAVE COMMITMENTS? 27:54 YOU CAN PRAY. 27:57 YOU CAN VOLUNTEER YOUR TALENTS. 28:01 YOU CAN TELL OTHERS. 28:05 YOU CAN GIVE MONEY TO SPONSOR BIBLE WORKERS. 28:08 MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING FOR HOPE AND MEANING BUT THEY WON'T 28:12 FIND IT WITHOUT YOU. 28:13 BE THE SPARK. 28:15 LIGHT THE FIRE. 28:17 FINISH THE WORK. 28:21 FINISH THE WORK. 28:25 BE THE SPARK. |
Revised 2015-02-06