Participants: Bruce Moyer
Series Code: AIM
Program Code: AIM000400
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00:23 WELCOME TO "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS" FROM GOSPEL OUTREACH. 00:25 I AM JULIE SANDERS-KEYMER AND WE ARE GLAD THAT YOU HAVE JOINED US. 00:28 TODAY WE HAVE BRUCE MOYER HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH. 00:31 BRUCE, WELCOME! 00:32 THANK YOU! 00:33 IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU. 00:34 BRUCE, YOU ARE THE DIRECTOR OF DISTRICT NINE HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH AND CAN YOU TELL US 00:38 ABOUT YOUR DISTRICT? 00:40 MY DISTRICT IS A VERY LARGE DISTRICT, VERY WIDE SPREAD. 00:43 I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING AMONG MUSLIMS, ONLY MUSLIMS. 00:47 MUSLIMS ARE SO HOSPITABLE, SO GRACIOUS AND SO KIND TO ME. 00:54 EVERYWHERE I GO, SOME PEOPLE ASK ME, AND THEY SAY, "AREN'T YOU IN ANY DANGER? 01:00 I SAY, "DANGER! 01:01 IS WHEN I GET BACK TO THE STATES, MAYBE, BUT NOT THERE?" 01:05 NO, I HAVE NEVER BUT ONE TIME FELT THREATENED AND THAT WAS ALL. 01:09 OTHER WISE, I JUST FIND VERY GRACIOUS PEOPLE. 01:14 THEY WANT TO KNOW AND HAVE PICKED UP INFORMATION ON ISA . 01:18 ISA! 01:19 ISA IS ANOTHER NAME FOR JESUS IN THE QUR'AN. 01:22 THEY WANT TO KNOW WHO IS THIS ISA. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT ISA ? 01:27 MY JOB IS TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND TRAIN SOME OF THEM SO DO THIS, AS WELL, TO DO THIS. 01:32 HOW DO WE SHARE THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT ISA, IN A WAY THAT MUSLIMS CAN UNDERSTAND AND THAT MAKES 01:42 SENSE TO THEM. 01:43 BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE BARRIERS. 01:48 THERE IS THE WORD. 01:49 YES! 01:50 THERE IS THE WORD! 01:51 SERIOUS BARRIERS! 01:52 BECAUSE THEY HAVE MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT CHRISTIANITY,AND US AND THE REST SO WE HAVE TO MOVE 01:59 BEYOND THOSE BARRIERS, WHICH MEANS, 02:01 SITTING DOWN, EXPLAINING, TALKING TO EACH OTHER AND SHARING. 02:04 AND I SAY, "IS THAT WHAT MUSLIMS BELIEVE? 02:07 IS THAT WHAT YOU DO? 02:08 IS THAT HOW YOU DO IT? 02:10 THAT IS FACINATING!" 02:11 THEY ARE DOING THE SAME THING WITH ME. 02:13 IT IS A MATTER OF EXPLORING WITH EACH OTHER, SORT OF A TWO WAY STREET. 02:18 I THINK SO AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT BECAUSE I THINK OFTEN TIMES WE IN OUR IGNORANCE 02:26 SOMETIMES DO NOT UNDERSTAND SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM. 02:29 AND SOMETIMES WE LABEL THEM AS," OH! 02:31 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THOSE PEOPLE AND THOSE PEOPLE BELIEVE DIFFERENTLY THAN HOW I BELIEVE." 02:36 SO WE THROW IT ALL OUT. 02:37 IF THEY ARE DIFFERENT THAN WE SUSPECT THEM OF ALL SORTS OF TERRIBLE THINGS. 02:41 EXACTLY! 02:42 SO YOU'RE IN THE MUSLIM WORLD AND THE GOSPEL OUTREACH CONCENTRATION IS TO THE 10/40 02:48 WINDOW, THAT AREA OF THE WORLD THAT IS SO HIGHLY POPULATED AND ALL OF THAT. 02:51 STARTING WITH NORTH AFRICA, IF YOU WERE TO SEE A MAP OF THE WORLD, 02:55 DRAW A BIG PAINT BRUSH ACROSS NORTH AFRICA, MIDDLE EAST, THE PERSIAN GULF, CENTRAL, 03:00 SOUTH ASIA AND GO ALL THE WAY OVER PAST CHINA THAN DIP DOWN INTO INDONESIA, 03:09 THE PHILIPPINES AND ALL THAT AREA. 03:10 ESSENTIALLY, WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT TERRITORY BETWEEN THE 10TH AND THE 40TH PARALLELS NORTH OF 03:16 THE EQUATOR BOUNDED BY THE ATLANTIC AND PACIFIC OCEANS. 03:20 WHEW! 03:21 I NEED A PASSPORT FOR THAT WHOLE BIG JOURNEY WE JUST TOOK. 03:23 YES! 03:24 YES! 03:25 IT IS A WONDERFUL PART OF THE WORLD. 03:27 IT IS CRITICAL. 03:29 IT IS HOME TO THE MAJOR RELIGIONS; CHRISTIANITY, JUDAISM, ISLAM, 03:34 BUDDHISM AND HINDUISM. 03:36 ALL OF THESE WERE BORN THERE. 03:38 IT IS HOME TO ALL THE MAJOR CONFLICTS. 03:41 LOOK AROUND THE WORLD TODAY. 03:43 ALL THE MAJOR CONFLICTS ARE TAKING PLACE IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD, 03:46 ALSO HOME TO THE MAJORITY OF THE POOR. 03:52 RIGHT! 03:54 AND ANOTHER WAY I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE IS THAT, ABOUT ONE THIRD, 30 PER CENT OF THE WORLD, 04:03 IS CHRISTIAN, VARYING TYPES OF CHRISTIANITY, ABOUT 30 PER CENT. 04:10 ANOTHER 30 PER CENT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD, LIVE NEARBY THAT SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE AS 04:17 THAT FIRST 30 PER CENT. 04:20 THAT MEANS THAT IF EVERY CHRISTIAN WERE TO GET UP TOMORROW MORNING AND RUN OUT AND 04:25 TELL ALL THEIR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS ABOUT JESUS, 40 PER CENT OF THE WORLD WOULD NEVER 04:30 HEAR A THING, BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE NEAR CHRISTIANS AND THEY DON'T SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE. 04:36 WOW! 04:37 THIS IS WHY GOSPEL OUTREACH EXISTS. 04:39 ABSOLUTELY! 04:41 GOSPEL OUTREACH EXISTS BECAUSE SOME OF US LIE AWAKE AT NIGHT WORRYING ABOUT THAT 40 PER CENT. 04:48 HOW CAN WE GET THROUGH TO THEM? 04:50 THAT 40 PER CENT ALSO INCLUDES SO MANY CHILDREN. 04:56 IN FACT, THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE INCREDIBLE. 05:00 THESE ARE YOUNG COUNTRIES. 05:03 YOU DO NOT LIVE TO OLD AGE. 05:07 THE MEDICINE HAS PROVIDED THE ABILITY TO HAVE CHILDREN TO SURVIVE LONGER, 05:11 SO YOU HAVE LARGE NUMBERS OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND CHILDREN. 05:16 I GO THERE AND I VISIT PLACES. 05:19 I AM DOING TRAINING AND OCCASIONALLY ON SABBATHS WE HAVE LARGE MEETINGS. 05:25 I LOOK AND HERE ARE THE MEN AND I HERE ARE THE WOMEN BUT WHERE ARE THE KIDS. 05:29 YES! 05:30 I SAY, "WHERE IS THIS? 05:32 WHERE ARE THEY GOING?" 05:34 AND THEY SAY "OUTSIDE". 05:36 ALL OF A SUDDEN IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT MY GRANDSONS GO TO CHURCH. 05:46 THEY GET MY LITTLE FRIEND AND THE JUNIOR GUIDE ; ALL THE CHURCH PUBLICATIONS. 05:51 YES, ALL THOSE CHURCH PUBLICATIONS THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR THEM AND THAT HELP THEM KNOW 05:55 ABOUT JESUS AT THEIR OWN AGE LEVEL. 06:01 THESE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE IT. 06:03 IT IS NOT LIKE I CAN JUST TAKE WITH ME A WHOLE BUNCH OF THESE THINGS, 06:07 BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN THEIR LANGUAGE. 06:09 NO, IT IS NOT IN THEIR LANGUAGE. 06:10 THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONAL THINGS. 06:11 THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONAL THINGS. 06:12 THE CULTURE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. 06:14 THE STORIES ARE WESTERN STORIES. 06:17 THEY WOULD BE MEANINGLESS TO THOSE PEOPLE; THE PICTURES, THE GRAPHICS AND THAT. 06:21 EVERYTHING IS TOTALLY WESTERN. 06:23 SO I SAID, "WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR THESE CHILDREN?" 06:27 I AM A GRANDFATHER. 06:29 SEE! 06:30 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A GRANDFATHER. 06:33 NO! 06:34 SORRY, I CAN'T HELP YOU THERE. 06:35 I AM WHAT I REFER TO AS A PROFESSIONAL GRANDFATHER. 06:38 MEANING? 06:39 I AM A GRANDFATHER TO ALL CHILDREN. 06:41 GOD BLESS YOU FOR THAT! 06:42 THERE ARE NO CHILDREN THAT ARE NOT MY GRANDCHILDREN. 06:45 YOU HAVE A BIG JOB, BRUCE. 06:46 YES, I DO! 06:47 AND I LOVE IT! 06:48 I AM LOOKING AT ALL THESE CHILDREN AND WE SAID, "WHAT CAN WE DO? 06:52 HOW CAN WE PROVIDE FOR THEM? 06:56 HOW DO THEY LEARN?" 06:58 AND WE THOUGHT THEY DON'T LEARN THE SAME. 07:00 IN DIFFERENT CULTURES THEY HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF LEARNING. 07:03 IN OUR CULTURE YOU SIT IN A CLASSROOM AND STARE AT THE BACK OF EACH OTHERS HEADS 07:06 AND ONE TEACHER GETS UP THERE AND LECTURES. 07:08 BUT THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT IS DONE IN MOST OF THE WORLD. 07:11 IN MOST OF THE WORLD, YOU LEARN BY NARRATION AND STORY TELLING. 07:16 IT IS AT NIGHTTIME AND YOU SIT THERE BY THE FIRE IN THE HOME OR WHEREVER IT MAY BE AND THERE ARE 07:23 STORIES THAT ARE TOLD. 07:25 THESE STORIES TELL THE WHOLE HISTORY OF THE PEOPLE AND OF THEIR FAITH. 07:31 THEY SOCIALIZE THE CHILDREN INTO THE BELIEF STRUCTURE THAT THE PARENTS HAVE. 07:37 WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 07:39 ISN'T THAT BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAID THAT I AM THINKING ABOUT ALL THE KIDS THAT ARE 07:42 STUCK ON THEIR IPHONES, THEIR VIDEO GAMES AND THEIR WHATEVER, BUT A LOT OF KIDS IN YOUR AREA 07:48 DON'T HAVE ALL THAT SO THEY HAVE INTERACTION AND STORYTELLING. 07:52 AND EVEN IF THEY DID HAVE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SMARTPHONES OUT THERE BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING 07:56 TO PUT ON THEM IN THEIR LANGUAGE OR IN THEIR CULTURE LANGUAGE OR CULTURALLY AND UNDERSTANDING. 08:03 SO WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT IT, A FEW OF US HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH. 08:06 WE GOT A MUSLIM OUTREACH COMMITTEE THAT WE ESTABLISHED HERE AT THE MAIN OFFICE AND WE 08:12 MEET ABOUT ONCE A YEAR. 08:15 WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION OF WHAT COULD WE DO AND HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM? 08:18 WHAT ARE YOU COMING UP WITH? 08:22 I WENT BACK TO UNCLE ARTHUR'S BIBLE STORIES, PURE NARRATION AND STORIES. 08:32 I REMEMBER READING THEM TO MY DAUGHTERS. 08:34 I REMEMBER SELLING THEM WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE. 08:36 THEY ARE WONDERFUL! 08:38 THEY REALLY ARE! 08:39 THEY TELL THE STORY SO NICELY. 08:42 AND WE SAID, "HERE WE HAVE ALL THE MATERIAL, IT IS ALL IN ENGLISH.ENGLISH! 08:46 ENGLISH; BECAUSE HE WAS VERY ENGLISH, ANYWAY. 08:48 THERE YOU GO. 08:49 SO WE GOT THE MATERIAL. 08:52 SO I CALLED A FRIEND OF MINE AT THE REVIEW AND HERALD AND I ASKED HIM, 08:58 "HOW WOULD YOU PEOPLE FEEL IF WE EXCERPTED ABOUT, OH! 09:03 30 OR 40 STORIES FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT AND SOME FROM THE NEW, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF WE 09:14 EXCERPTED THEM, TOOK THEM OUT AND PUT THEM INTO A SMALL BOOKLET BY THEMSELVES AND THEN 09:22 TRANSLATED THEM INTO ARABIC, SWAHILI, SOMALI, URDU, FARSI, OR WHATEVER. 09:28 I HOPE THEY SAID YES. 09:30 OH! 09:31 THEY SAID, "ISN'T THIS EXCITING! 09:34 THAT IS EXCITING!" 09:35 GOOD! 09:36 THEY PUT US IN CHARGE WITH THE APPROPRIATE PERSON. 09:40 THERE IS A LOT OF LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS TO ALL THIS. 09:44 THERE IS COPYRIGHT AND WHAT HAVE YOU. 09:46 SURE! 09:47 ONE OF THE MEN THAT WAS THE VICE PRESIDENT 09:48 HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH TOOK OVER AT THIS POINT. 09:51 I SAID, "THIS IS BEYOND MY PAYSCALE." 09:54 SINCE YOU ARE WORKING FOR FREE! 09:55 RIGHT, BRUCE! 09:56 ABSOLUTELY! 09:58 SO HE WENT TO WORK ON IT. 10:00 WE ARE NOW AT THE VERY LAST STAGES. 10:03 EVERYTHING HAS JUST BEEN GOING VERY, VERY SMOOTHLY. 10:06 I EXPECT WITHIN A FEW DAYS WE WILL HAVE THE FINAL PERMISSION FROM THE REVIEW TO BE ABLE TO 10:12 EXCERPT THESE STORIES, WONDERFUL STORIES. 10:15 AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THEM TO THE LOCALE. 10:21 IN THE LOCALE, LOCAL PEOPLE WILL DO THE TRANSLATION. 10:26 CAN THEY GET CULTURALLY SOUND TO KNOW THAT? 10:29 YES, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WILL DO IT ARE ESSENTIALLY MUSLIM PEOPLE. 10:35 THEY ARE MUSLIM PEOPLE, WHO LOVE JESUS. 10:38 BASICALLY, THEY HAVE THE SAME BELIEFS AS SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS DO. 10:42 THEY ARE KEEPING THE SABBATH. 10:44 THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SECOND COMING; THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. 10:47 IT IS RIGHT THERE. 10:48 WE ARE NOT JUST TOSSING THIS MATERIAL OUT TO ANYBODY. 10:54 IT IS NOT NEW TO THEM. 10:58 THEY WILL TRANSLATE THIS INTO THEIR STORY FORM AND THEIR LANGUAGE. 11:04 THEN WE CAN PRINT IT LOCALLY INEXPENSIVELY. 11:06 IT IS MUCH CHEAPER TO DO IT THERE. 11:08 PRINT IT LOCALLY AND GET IT OUT. 11:11 WE WILL GET IT OUT TO THESE VARIOUS GROUPS AND SAY, "HERE IS MATERIAL. 11:16 WE HOPE TO HAVE TWO BOOKLETS". 11:17 WONDERFUL! 11:18 AT LEAST THIS WILL BE GETTING OF THIS. 11:20 WE HAVE TWO BOOKLETS THAT THEY CAN USE THAT THEY CAN SIT DOWN WITH THE CHILDREN AND READ IT OR 11:27 HOPEFULLY, THEY WILL DO WHAT I DO WITH MY GRANDCHILDREN. 11:30 I DON'T JUST READ IT. 11:31 I READ AND HALF ACT IT OUT. 11:33 GOOD JOB! 11:34 GOOD JOB! 11:35 THIS IS FUN. 11:36 WE WILL BEGIN TO DEVELOP SERIOUS MATERIAL FOR THESE CHILDREN. 11:43 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN. 11:47 THAT JUST BOGGLES MY MIND THE NUMBER. 11:49 MY APPEAL IS THAT GRANDPARENTS, UNITE! 11:55 THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF YOU OUT THERE ON TV WATCHING RIGHT NOW. 11:58 THESE ARE YOUR GRANDCHILDREN LIKE THEY ARE MINE. 12:02 REALIZE THIS AND HELP US! 12:04 PLEASE! 12:05 PLEASE HELP US! 12:06 ABSOLUTELY! 12:07 AND JUST AS BRUCE IS MAKING THAT APPEAL, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU SOME CONTACT INFORMATION. 12:11 IF YOU ARE FEELING THAT THE LORD IS CALLING YOU TO BE A PART OF THIS AND TO SHARE THE LORD'S 12:16 STORY OF ASI WITH THE CHILDREN IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, 12:19 WE WOULD ASK YOU TO GET INVOLVED HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH. 12:22 WE HAVE SEVERAL WAYS THAT YOU CAN GET INTOUCH WITH US AT GOSPEL OUTREACH. 12:44 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE US A CALL IN COLLEGE PLACE, WASHINGTON, 13:08 THERE YOU CAN FIND ALL SORTS OF WAYS OF HOW YOU CAN DONATE. 13:11 YOU CAN DONATE BY A CREDIT CARD OR PAYPAL. 13:14 YOU CAN DO A DONATION ONLINE. 13:16 WE ALSO HAVE ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS, WHICH IS OUR NEWSLETTER WHICH WE WOULD BE 13:20 HAPPY TO SEND TO YOU. 13:21 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE THAT VIA AN EMAIL NEWSLETTER, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS WELL. 13:27 WE ALSO HAVE AN AUTOMATIC MONTHLY WITHDRAWAL THAT YOU CAN SAY "GOSPEL OUTREACH, 13:31 I WANT TO GIVE 100 DOLLARS A MONTH TO YOU FOLKS FOR YOUR PROJECT". 13:36 WE CAN TAKE 100 DOLLARS OUT OF YOU CHECKING ACCOUNT WITH YOUR APPROVAL, OF COURSE. 13:41 AND THAT IS ALL SECURED. 13:42 WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. 13:45 PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO TO BE A PART OF GOSPEL OUTREACH. 13:48 BRUCE, LET'S GO BACK TO THE CHILDREN AND TALKING ABOUT THEM. 13:51 IT IS INTERESTING TO ME, WE TAKE FOR GRANTED, AS CHRISTIANS, TO BE ABLE TO GO TO A BOOK CENTER 14:00 AND TO BUY THINGS THAT WE NEED FOR OUR CHILDREN AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT . 14:06 THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS. 14:07 I COME FROM A FAMILY OF DRAMATIZED BIBLE STORIES. 14:10 THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT AND THE BIBLE STORIES THAT YOU REFERRED TO. 14:14 BUT IN A LOT OF THESE COUNTRIES, THEY CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE 14:20 OF BEING IN A NON-CHRISTIAN COUNTRY FOR STARTERS. 14:23 BUT ALSO, IT HAS NOT BEEN TRANSLATED. 14:25 IT HASN'T BEEN DONE. 14:27 JUST LIKE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THERE IS NOTHING. 14:28 IT DOESN'T EXIST. 14:29 NO! 14:31 IF IT DOESN'T EXIST THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T GET AHOLD ANY. 14:33 YES! 14:35 UNLESS WE DO THIS, WE BELIEVE THIS WILL LAY A FOUNDATION FOR THESE YOUNG PEOPLE AS THEY COME 14:42 UP WITH THESE STORIES. 14:43 HOPEFULLY AND OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE GOING TO ADD TO THIS. 14:45 YES! 14:46 WE WILL DEVELOP MORE AND MORE. 14:47 SURE! 14:48 WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE THE PEOPLE 14:52 IN THESE AREAS THEN TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN. 14:55 UNCLE ARTHUR WENT FROM THE BIBLE STORIES TO THE BEDTIME STORIES. 14:59 TRUE! 15:00 WE NEED TO HAVE THEM DEVELOP THEIR OWN BEDTIME STORIES, 15:03 SORT OF SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN DO THIS. 15:05 A LOT OF TIMES IS WHAT THIS MEANS IS THEY WILL TAKE THEIR OWN STORIES, 15:09 TRADITIONAL STORIES AND THEN KIND OF SLANT THEM A BIT, YOU SEE. 15:15 TWEEK THEM JUST ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEM OUT AND IN A WAY THAT JESUS ORIENTED CONTEXT 15:22 TO MAKE THEM USEFUL TO THESE YOUNG PEOPLE. 15:27 LET ME ASK YOU THIS. 15:28 AT THE BEGINNING HERE YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO THESE MEETINGS, 15:31 THERE ARE THE MEN AND THE WOMEN. 15:33 ARE THE FAMILIES NOT BRINGING THE CHILDREN IN THESE MUSLIM AREAS? 15:36 ARE THE FAMILIES NOT BRINGING THE CHILDREN FOR SAFETY REASONS OR IS THERE JUST NOTHING FOR THE 15:41 CHILDREN THAT THEY DON'T HAVE FOR THE CHILDREN? 15:44 THERE IS NOTHING FOR THEM. 15:45 OKAY! 15:46 THEY ARE NOT USED TO IT. 15:47 IT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 15:48 OKAY! 15:50 IN MANY PARTS OF THE WORLD, FOR WHEN I WAS IN ZAMBABWE, FOR INSTANCE, 15:51 WHEN I LIVED AND WORKED THERE, YOU WOULD HAVE MEN 15:54 ON THE ONE SIDE AND THE WOMEN ON THE OTHER SIDE. 15:56 IN THE FRONT IN BETWEEN THE PULPIT AND THE PEWS, THERE WERE JUST WALL TO WALL CHILDREN. 16:00 KIDS PACKED IN THERE. 16:02 AND THAT WAS JUST THE FIRST FEW MINUTES WHERE I WAS JUST TALKING TO THEM AND SHARING WITH THEM; 16:07 JUST GETTING DOWN THERE WITH THEM. 16:08 YOU CAN DO THAT. 16:09 THEY ARE NOT USED TO THAT. 16:10 THEY ARE NOT USED TO THAT. 16:11 IT IS NOT BUILT INTO THEIR CULTURE AT THIS POINT. 16:14 SO WHAT DID THE MUSLIM CHILDREN DO WHEN THEY GO PART-TIME OR WHATEVER? 16:19 THE MUSLIM CHILDREN, BASICALLY, GO TO A MADRASSA . 16:22 A MADRASSA ! 16:23 WELL, WHAT YOU LEARN IS QUR'AN. 16:25 OKAY! 16:26 SO THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE ADULTS THEN. 16:27 YES! 16:28 AND YOU LEARN THE QUR'AN, YOU LEARN IT BY ROTE. 16:30 YOU MEMORIZE THE QUR'AN . 16:32 YOU START WITH THE FIRST SERTA AND YOU START WORKING ALL THE WAY THROUGH. 16:36 WOW! 16:37 IT IS JUST ROTE MEMORY. 16:39 THAT IS INTENSIVE. 16:41 YES! 16:43 THE IDEAL IS THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO MEMORIZE AND RECITE THE ENTIRE QUR'AN . 16:46 AND THERE ARE NUMEROUS PEOPLE AND I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE HAFIZ THAT MEANS THEY CAN RECIE 16:51 AND HAVE MEMORIZED THE ENTIRE QUR'AN . 16:53 THEY CAN RECITE IT. 16:55 WOW! 16:57 I HAVE A NUMBER OF FRIENDS THAT HAVE HAFIZ RIGHT ON AS THEIR TITLE NOW. 17:01 THIS IS ALL GOOD AND WELL. 17:04 I AM NOT DECRYING THESE; BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY NEED TO BE AND NOTHING ELSE, 17:11 WE SHOULD BE TEACHING THEM ALSO TO MEMORIZE SCRIPTURE AND BRINGING THESE THINGS IN. 17:17 I AM SIMPLY LEARNING WHAT THEY DO AND THEN HOW DO WE ADAPT THIS NOW? 17:22 HOW DO WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR USUAL METHOD AND BRING IT TO US. 17:28 I HAVE DISCOVERED THIS IN MOST OF THE COUNTRIES WHERE I HAVE BEEN. 17:30 I HAVE HAD TO STOP AND REFLECT HOW THESE PEOPLE LEARN? 17:35 HOW DO THEY DO BUSINESS? 17:37 SEE, WE ARE USED TO MEETINGS, WHICH WE HAVE ROBERTS RULES OF ORDERS . 17:41 RIGHT! 17:42 YOU KNOW. 17:43 YOU MAKE A MOTION, A SECOND AND AN OBJECTION AND THIS SORT OF THING. 17:47 THEY DON'T HAVE THAT. 17:48 THAT HISTORY ISN'T THERE. 17:52 THEY WILL SIT AROUND IN A CIRCLE. 17:56 THE LEADER IS NOT ONE WHO SAYS, "OKAY! 18:00 THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO". 18:01 HE LISTENS. 18:03 HIS JOB IS TO LISTEN TO WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS. 18:06 WHEN EVERYONE HAS SPOKEN, HE JOB IS THEN TO REFLECT AND MOVE AT WHAT THEY HAVE SAID. 18:12 TO BRING CONCENSUS OUT OF IT IN THE WAY THAT HE THINKS IS THE BEST. 18:17 THAT IS HIS JOB. 18:19 WE COULD LEARN FROM THAT COULDN'T WE? 18:24 YES! 18:25 IT IS JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF ORGANIZING. 18:26 EDUCATION IS THE SAME WAY. 18:28 AS I SAY, IT IS A NARRATIVE FORM OF EDUCATION. 18:30 TO ADAPT TO THAT MEANS THAT THESE PEOPLE CAN NOW REALLY LEARN. 18:36 BECAUSE IF ALL YOU DO IS MEMORIZE SOMETHING, IT IS NOT CHANGING YOU. 18:40 IT IS NOT TRANFORMING YOUR MIND OR YOUR HEART. 18:44 IT IS JUST WORDS GOING IN AND COMING OUT. 18:48 ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS TELLS ME NOW, SHE SAYS, "I AM AFRAID TO ADMIT BUT THAT IS HOW I GOT 18:54 THROUGH SCHOOL." 18:55 SHE SAID, "I JUST MEMORIZED". 18:56 SHE SAYS SHE NOW FEELS BADLY. 19:00 IT IS A PROCESS OF UNDERSTANDING THEM AND GETTING INTO THEIR WORLD. 19:05 TRUE! 19:07 ARE THE PARENTS WHO HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW ISA, JESUS, ARE THEY HUNGRY FOR SOMETHING TO SHARE 19:13 WITH THEIR KIDS? 19:15 YES! 19:16 WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM AND THEY WELCOME THIS. 19:17 THEY ARE EAGER FOR IT. 19:19 WHEN WE MENTION THE VERY IDEA THEY JUST IMEDIATELY PERK-UP AND SAY, "YES, PLEASE, PLEASE!" 19:25 WE DON'T REALLY EVEN HAVE MUCH PRINTED MATERIAL OR ANY PRINTED MATERIAL FOR ADULTS. 19:30 WE JUST DON'T. 19:32 WE HAVE BEEN USED TO DOING MISSION IN LANGUAGES THAT WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH SUCH AS, SPANISH, 19:41 MAYBE ZULU AND SWAHILI. 19:43 BUT THERE ARE LANGUAGES THAT WE ARE NOT USED TO. 19:46 WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET. 19:48 ARABIC IS ONE OF THOSE. 19:49 SOMALI, URDU , A LITTLE BIT BUT NOT THAT MUCH. 19:56 IT'S DEVELOPING THESE MATERIALS AND GETTING THEM IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES FOR PEOPLE. 20:02 ALL OF THIS TAKES A LOT OF MONEY. 20:04 IT DOES! 20:05 YOU HAVE GOT TO PAY FOR RESEARCH. 20:08 YOU HAVE GOT TO FIND TRANSLATORS. 20:09 YOU HAVE GOT TO FIND TRANSLATORS WHO KNOW HOW TO TRANSLATE. 20:12 IT IS NOT JUST WORD FOR WORD. 20:16 YOU ARE NOT DOING THAT. 20:17 THAT DOESN'T WORK. 20:19 YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE WHAT IS THE THOUGHT THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO EXPRESS AND CAN I PUT THAT SAME 20:24 THOUGHT INTO LOCAL CONTEXT SO IT BEGINS TO MAKE SENSE TO THEM. 20:29 WHEN I FIRST WENT OUT IN AFRICA, I WAS TEACHING A CLASS AND IT WAS ON THE NEW TESTAMENT. 20:36 ONE OF THE ANSWERS THAT I WAS GETTING FROM ONE OF MY STUDENTS WAS, 20:41 "WHEN JOSEPH DISCOVERED THAT MARY HAD A STOMACH." 20:43 AND I SAID, "THAT WAS INTERESTING". 20:46 HE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT MARY HAD A STOMACH? 20:48 I WAS PUZZLED UNTIL I REALIZED, THAT IS THEIR EUPHEMISM FOR BEING PREGNANT. 20:55 ISN'T THAT SOMETHING! 20:56 IT IS THE STOMACH, YOU SEE. 20:57 OH! 20:58 GOT IT! 21:00 YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO TRANSLATE INTO THE THOUGHT NOT JUST THE WORDS. 21:07 IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN A LIST FROM WYCLIFFE TRANSLATORS OF ALL THE LANGUAGES 21:13 OF THE WORLD THAT STILL HAVE NOT HAD A BIBLE TRANSLATED INTO YET. 21:17 I THINK IT IS ONE THING FOR US TO SAY THAT. 21:19 BUT FOR BRUCE TO SEE THE FONT SIZE VERY SMALL ON A LIST THAT IS JUST A HUGE, HUGE BANNER. 21:26 SO THAT IS THE BIBLE. 21:29 BUT THEN YOU BRING IT TO THE CHILDREN. 21:30 THE CHILDREN, WHO DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING, I THINK THAT IS A HUGE CONCEPT. 21:34 JUST THINK OF ALL THE LANGUAGES. 21:36 GOD CREATED THEM ALL BUT JUST THINK OF ALL THE LANGUAGE THAT HE UNDERSTANDS AND WHEN YOU 21:40 THINK OF IT THAT WAY. 21:41 GOD IS WONDERFULLY MULTI-CULTURAL; JUST MENTALLY WRAPPING YOUR BRAIN ABOUT THAT. 21:47 IT IS THE KIDS THAT NEED TO KNOW EARLY ON OF THE LOVE OF THE LORD FOR THEM. 21:53 HOW DO WE DO THAT? 21:54 SO WE ARE GATHERING TOGETHER TRANSLATORS, WHO CAN DO THAT. 21:55 AND THEN THERE WILL HAVE TO BE OTHERS WHO WORK WITH THEM TO CHECKING THE TRANSLATION. 22:02 IT HAS TO BE A COMMITTEE SORT OF A SITUATION. 22:06 YOU DON'T JUST PUT IT IN THE HANDS ONE. 22:09 EVEN BIBLE TRANSLATION IS ALWAYS DONE BEST BY A COMMITTEE SITUATION. 22:15 THEN ONCE THEY HAVE DONE THAT, THEN WE HAVE TO GET IT FORMATTED. 22:18 WE HAVE TO KEY IT IN WHATEVER FORMAT THAT IT IS IN THE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. 22:24 COMPUTERS HANDLE ALL OF THESE NOW. 22:25 SURE! 22:26 THEN IT HAS GOT TO BE PRINTED AND DISTRIBUTED. 22:29 I AM SO GLAD TO KNOW THAT GOSPEL OUTREACH IS LOOKING AT THE CHILDREN. 22:32 BECAUSE I MET A MUSLIM MAN, WHO HAD COME TO KNOW CHRIST AND ALL OF THAT AND WHEN I ASKED HIM 22:39 ABOUT THINGS FOR HIS KIDS, AND HIS SON, HE SAID THERE ISN'T ANYTHING. 22:53 THAT WAS WHY HE WAS INVOLVED IN A PARTICULAR PROJECT. 22:56 I JUST SAT THERE AND TEARS WERE ROLLING DOWN MY FACE. 22:59 I WAS THINKING THAT HE CAN'T JUST GO AND BUY SOMETHING FOR HIS CHILD. 23:03 HERE IS A WORKBOOK. 23:04 HERE IS A COLOR BOOK. 23:05 HERE IS A BEDTIME STORY ABOUT JESUS, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO HIM. 23:09 HE IS MAKING THE DIFFERENCE FOR HIS SON. 23:11 AND WE CAN DO THAT HERE AT GOSPEL OUTREACH. 23:14 YES! 23:15 IF IT IS POSSIBLE THAN WE REALLY "HAVE" TO. 23:16 AND IT IS. 23:17 IT IS INCREDIBLY POSSIBLE, VERY DOABLE! 23:19 SO SOME OTHER EXCITING THINGS ARE GOING ON WITH CHILDREN. 23:22 YOU HAVE THAT BIG PROJECT. 23:23 WHAT ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT DOWN THE ROAD, 23:26 THAT KIND OF PUTS YOU ON THE SPOT HERE? 23:29 THAT IS OKAY! 23:30 WE NEED TO DEVELOP A PATHFINDER PROGRAM. 23:32 OKAY! 23:33 I HAVE BEEN TO A NUMBER OF OUR MOSQUE MADRASSAS. 23:35 THERE ARE MADRASSAS IN WHICH ISA IS WELL KNOWN AND TAUGHT. 23:38 THEY ARE VERY MUSLIM BUT THEY ARE OPERATED IN A MUSLIM FASHION. 23:45 THEY HAVE BEGUN TO DEVELOP YOUTH PROGRAMS. 23:48 GOOD! 23:49 IN SOME COUNTRIES I HAVE WATCHED WHEN THEY DRILL. 23:54 THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE THEY LOVE TO DO IT. 23:58 I WAS IN THE MARINE CORP. 23:59 I STILL HAVE THE SENSE OF CLOSE ORDER OF DRILL. 24:03 WHAT WE USED TO CALL "MONKEY DRILL". 24:05 THEY ARE VERY FANCY STUFF WHERE YOU ARE GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, 24:09 BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN AND SPINNING YOUR WEAPON AND THIS SORT OF THING. 24:15 I HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THIS TAKING PLACE NOW WITH SOME OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE. 24:20 THIS IS NEEDED BECAUSE THIS IS BUILDING 24:23 A SENSE OF SELF-CONFIDENCE IN THESE YOUNG PEOPLE. 24:26 A SENSE OF IDENTITY IN THEIR GROUP, YOU SEE, GROUPNESS 24:31 AND WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE. 24:34 I SAT THERE AND WATCHED. 24:36 BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I WATCHED THIS ONE GROUP DO THIS VERY INTRICATE DRILL FOR 20 MINUTES; 24:44 SILENT, WITH NO COMMANDS. 24:47 THEY JUST DO IT FROM HEART! 24:49 THEY KNEW IT FROM HEART! 24:51 I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I WAS WITNESSING. 24:54 I SAT AROUND WITH THEM AFTERWARDS AND I SAID, "I HAVE GOT TO TALK TO YOU, KIDS." 24:59 HOW OLD WERE THEY? 25:01 THEY WERE ANYWHERE FROM 9 TO 12 OR 8 TO 12; SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 25:06 I SAID, "I USED TO DO THIS. 25:07 I USED TO DO THIS I DID IT AMONGST THE BEST. 25:10 YES, YOU DID, I WOULD SAY. 25:12 I SAID, "YOU KIDS ARE FANTASTIC." 25:16 I WAS AMAZED AT THEIR RESPONSE. 25:18 "AH!" 25:19 THEY WERE JUST DRINKINGTHIS UP. 25:23 IT MEANT SO MUCH TO THEM THAT SOME ONE WOULD COME, TALK TO THEM, SPEND TIME WITH THEM, 25:26 AND COMPLIMENT THEM. 25:31 I FIND THAT EVERY CHANCE WE GET, THAT WE HAVE JUST GOT TO FOCUS ON CHILDREN. 25:36 ABSOLUTELY, HAVE TO! 25:38 THE CHILDREN, IT IS TRUE EVEN AMONGST OURSELVES, CHILDREN ARE NOT THE FUTURE. 25:43 THEY ARE THE PRESENT. 25:45 I LIKE THAT! 25:46 THEY ARE THE PRESENT! 25:48 WE NEED TO BE TURNING THINGS OVER TO THEM AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. 25:53 AND LET THEM KNOW, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE NOW! 25:56 I AM GETTING OLD. 25:58 I HATE TO SAY IT! 25:59 I AM NO LONGER CALLING MYSELF MIDDLE-AGED, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. 26:03 I AM TELLING THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WE ARE TURNING IT OVER TO YOU. 26:09 IT IS A STATE OF MIND. 26:12 IT IS UP TO YOU TO CARRY ON. 26:15 THAT IS WHAT IS SO IMPORTANT BOTH AMONGST SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST AND AMONGST MUSLIMS. 26:21 ANY GROUP WE ARE WORKING WITH, WE HAVE GOT TO DEAL WITH THE CHILDREN. 26:25 WE JUST RECENTLY WITNESSED THE "ARAB SPRING". 26:27 WE DID THAT. 26:28 THE YOUNG PEOPLE, YOUNG PEOPLE WITH AN EDUCATION; YOUNG PEOPLE WITH TECHNOLOGY. 26:35 THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ROSE UP AND SAID, "WE WANT SOMETHING." 26:39 WE NEED TO BE TAKING THESE YOUNG PEOPLE SERIOUSLY. 26:43 WE NEED TO BE TALKING WITH THEM. 26:44 THEY ARE THE CHANGE AGENTS. 26:46 WE DON'T DEAL WITH THEM WITHOUT REALLY DEALING WITH PEOPLE SERIOUSLY. 26:50 I THINK YOU HAVE GIVEN THE VIEWERS SOMETHING TO REALLY THINK ABOUT AND THANK YOU FOR 26:55 BEING WITH US IN "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS". 26:57 THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. 26:59 YOU HAVE HEARD WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HERE, ABOUT CHILDREN AROUND THE WORLD AND IN 27:03 THE MUSLIM AREA, SPECIFICALLY, HERE WITH BRUCE. 27:05 IF THE LORD IS CALLING UPON YOU TO GIVE TO GOSPEL OUTREACH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU. 27:11 WE WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE: 27:16 FOR "ADVENTURES IN MISSIONS" AND FOR GOSPEL OUTREACH, 27:19 I AM JULIE SANDERS-KEYMER AND BLESSINGS TO YOU. 27:22 CLOSING MUSIC. |
Revised 2015-02-06