Participants: Pr. Doug Batchelor
Series Code: AFP
Program Code: AFP005002
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00:01 >>THE FOLLOWING IS A PAID PRESENTATION BROUGHT TO YOU BY
00:03 AMAZING FACTS, INCORPORATED. 00:12 >>THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT HUMAN NATURE THAT WHEN WE HAVE BEEN 00:14 HURT WE PULL BACK AND SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE HURT IN THE 00:18 CHURCH - THEIR INSTINCT IS 'GET OUT OF THERE QUICK. I DON'T 00:21 WANT TO BE HURT ANYMORE.' >>FOR OVER FORTY YEARS AMAZING 00:27 FACTS HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO SHARING GOD'S WORD 00:30 THROUGH MEDIA. 00:31 THIS PROGRAM FEATURES HIGHLIGHTS FROM SOME OF OUR BEST 00:34 TELEVISION BROADCASTS. 00:36 WE INVITE YOU TO SIT BACK AND ENJOY THIS EDITION OF 00:39 AMAZING FACTS PRESENTS. 00:46 >>HELLO FRIENDS. 00:47 WELCOME TO AMAZING FACTS PRESENTS. 00:49 WE'RE VERY THANKFUL THAT YOU HAVE TUNED IN TODAY FOR THIS 00:52 CONTINUING SERIES THAT WE'RE INVOLVED IN RIGHT NOW. 00:55 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE REASONS PEOPLE GET DISCOURAGED 00:58 AND STOP ATTENDING CHURCH. 01:00 ONE OF THE PRINCIPLE REASONS - SOMEBODY IN THE CHURCH HURT 01:03 THEIR FEELINGS. 01:05 THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME CONFLICT. 01:07 MAYBE YOU KNOW SOMEBODY THAT'S GONE THROUGH THAT - 01:09 THEY STOPPED ATTENDING CHURCH BECAUSE SOMEBODY HURT THEM. 01:12 MAYBE YOU'RE IN THAT CATEGORY. 01:14 THAT'S WHY WE TRUST YOU'LL BE BLESSED BY 01:15 THIS PRESENTATION CALLED 'SURVIVING FRIENDLY FIRE.' 01:21 >>BY THE TIME I GOT TO HIGH SCHOOL ABUSE WAS JUST 01:24 A WAY OF LIFE FOR ME. 01:25 I JUST THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS THE WAY IT WAS AND THAT MANY PEOPLE 01:28 WERE GOING THROUGH THAT - AND I FOUND OUT THAT A LOT OF THE 01:31 GIRLS WERE NOT GOING THROUGH THE ABUSE THAT I WAS GOING THROUGH. 01:36 I STARTED ACTING OUT AND PLAYING UP AND MISBEHAVING IN SCHOOL. 01:43 I FELT WHEN I SPOKE TO MOM SHE WAS TOO BUSY WORRYING ABOUT 01:47 WHERE DAD WAS - WHAT DAD WAS DOING. 01:49 WHEN I SPOKE TO THE OLDER SIBLINGS THEY COULDN'T 01:51 BE BOTHERED - I HAD STUPID QUESTIONS. 01:54 I SEEMED TO FEEL VERY LONELY ALL THE TIME AND I JUST FORGOT AT 01:59 THAT POINT WHERE GOD WAS AND FELT THAT I DIDN'T NEED HIM 02:04 BECAUSE, ANYWAY, WHEN I DID NEED HIM HE WAS NEVER AROUND FOR ME. 02:09 I WAS LIVING A VERY VERY BUSY LIFE WORKING UNTIL 2:00, 3:00 IN 02:16 THE MORNING AND THEN DRINKING ALCOHOL UNTIL 5:00 SO THAT 02:19 I COULD GET TO SLEEP FOR A FEW HOURS, WAKE UP, AND THEN GET 02:22 BACK TO WORK AT 8:00 AT NIGHT. 02:25 SO MY LIFE CONTINUED AND SPIRALED UNTIL I DECIDED 02:28 I NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 02:30 SO I PACKED MY BAGS AND SPENT ELEVEN MONTHS CROSSING AFRICA - 02:34 FROM ZIMBABWE ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO SWITZERLAND. 02:37 MET A LADY, A MISSIONARY WHO SPOKE TO ME ABOUT GOD AND GAVE 02:40 ME A BIBLE AND THAT WAS WHEN I STARTED THINKING AGAIN THAT 02:47 'GOD, MAYBE YOU LED ME ON THIS TRIP.' 02:50 AND THAT WAS THE START OF ME REALLY RETHINKING 02:53 'WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE?' I'D MADE A DECISION THAT 02:57 'GOD, THIS TIME I'M NEVER GOING TO LET YOU GO. 03:01 I KNOW YOU'VE NEVER LET ME GO - IT WAS ALWAYS ME WHO LET GO.' 03:06 MY RETURN TO JESUS WAS THE MOST AMAZING FEELING THAT I'D EVER 03:11 EXPERIENCED. 03:13 I FELT AS IF THIS TIME I'D MADE A CONNECTION WITH GOD. 03:20 MY NAME IS AYOLANI HILL AND I RECLAIMED MY FAITH. 03:27 >>YOU KNOW MANY OF THESE TESTIMONIES THAT YOU'RE HEARING 03:28 ARE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WENT TO THE AFCOE PROGRAM. 03:32 THEY'RE PEOPLE FROM ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD WHO 03:35 CAME TO AMAZING FACTS AND THEY TRAINED IN HOW TO SHARE 03:37 THEIR FAITH WITH OTHERS. 03:38 AND WE WERE SURPRISED WHAT A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT 03:42 WERE ALL OF A SUDDEN FILLED WITH A BURNING DESIRE TO SHARE THEIR 03:45 FAITH WITH OTHERS - THEY HAD DRIFTED AWAY. 03:49 WHEN THEY CAME BACK THEY REALIZED THE KEY TO LIFE IS 03:51 RECEIVING CHRIST AND SHARING CHRIST AND THEIR WHOLE 03:55 PERSPECTIVE CHANGED. 03:57 WELL, WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU ONCE AGAIN AND WE'RE VERY 04:01 THANKFUL, THAT YOU'VE TUNED IN. 04:03 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT REASONS THAT PEOPLE 04:06 BECOME DISCOURAGED AND STOP GOING TO CHURCH AND WHAT THE 04:08 SOLUTION TO THOSE THINGS IS. 04:11 SO, WHAT'S THE RIGHT VIEW THAT WE SHOULD HAVE REGARDING SOME OF 04:14 THE ISSUES THAT DISCOURAGE PEOPLE AND GET THEM TO 04:17 JUMP SHIP, SO TO SPEAK. 04:20 ONE OF THE PRINCIPLE THINGS WHEN WE INTERVIEW PEOPLE IS DEALING 04:24 WITH WHAT WE CALL FRIENDLY FIRE - SOMEBODY IN THE CHURCH DID 04:30 SOMETHING TO HURT THEM - OR SOME GROUP - OR SOME CLIQUE 04:33 IN THE CHURCH HURT THEM. 04:35 SOMETIMES THEY'RE EVEN UPSET WITH GOD SO THEY'VE PULLED BACK 04:39 BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN HURT. 04:42 DO NOT GET DISCOURAGED. 04:43 DO NOT LEAVE CHURCH BECAUSE SOMEONE IN THE CHURCH HURT YOU. 04:47 THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE DEVIL WANTS TO DO. 04:50 THINK IN THE BIBLE OF ALL THE CHARACTERS THAT STRUGGLED WITH 04:54 FRIENDLY FIRE. 04:57 THE FIRST MURDER IN THE BIBLE IS CAIN KILLING HIS BROTHER ABEL. 05:05 YOU'VE GOT THE STORY OF JOSEPH IN THE BIBLE - 05:07 WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM? 05:09 HIS BROTHERS JUST COULDN'T GET ALONG WITH HIM. 05:11 DID HE DO ANYTHING WRONG? 05:13 IT WASN'T HIS FAULT. 05:14 BY THE WAY, WITH ABEL, CAIN WAS UPSET WITH NOT HIS BADNESS 05:18 BUT HIS GOODNESS. 05:20 WITH JOSEPH HIS BROTHERS WERE NOT UPSET AT HIS BADNESS - 05:23 THEY WERE UPSET AT HIS DREAMS AND HIS GOODNESS. 05:27 YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WILL HELP US - SOME OF YOU WHO ARE 05:30 WATCHING YOU SAY, 'OH PASTOR DOUG, YOU DON'T KNOW 05:31 WHAT THEY DID TO ME. 05:33 I KNOW GENERALLY THAT MIGHT BE TRUE, BUT WHAT THEY DID TO ME.' 05:37 I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO REALIZE, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE DEVIL 05:39 WANTS US TO DO. 05:41 HE WANTS US TO BE HURT BY THIS FRIENDLY FIRE - 05:46 BY THE HORIZONTAL PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE SO WE TURN AWAY FROM HIM 05:50 OR WE BLAME GOD. 05:52 PICTURE, IF YOU WILL, FOR A MOMENT SOME PEOPLE PAY TO GO ON 05:56 A SAFARI THROUGH A JUNGLE - SOUTH AMERICA OR AFRICA - 06:00 AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE RAINFOREST AND THEY'RE GOING 06:02 SINGLE FILE THROUGH THE JUNGLE AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO THE RIGHT 06:04 AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO THE LEFT AND THERE ARE 06:06 MONKEYS IN THE TREES. 06:07 AND THESE ARE BAD MONKEYS. 06:09 AND THE MONKEYS ARE THROWING NUTS AND BRANCHES AND FRUIT AT 06:15 ONE OF THE MEN BUT HE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM AND HE 06:17 TURNS AROUND - HE THINKS IT'S THE PERSON IN LINE BEHIND HIM. 06:20 HE SAYS, 'WHY'D YOU DO THAT?' 'I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.' 06:22 'I KNOW YOU DID - YOU JUST BONKED ME ON THE HEAD WITH A 06:24 PIECE OF FRUIT.' 'I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.' 06:26 AND SO THEY TURN AROUND, THEY'RE WALKING DOWN THE TRAIL, 06:28 THEY'RE BOTH LOOKING AT THE FLOWERS AGAIN AND 'BING!' 06:30 'WHY WAS - WHAT DID I DO?' AND PRETTY SOON THEY'RE ALL 06:32 FIGHTING AMONG THEMSELVES AND THE MONKEYS ARE LAUGHING 06:35 IN THE TREES. 06:39 ARE THERE DEVILS AND DEMONS OUT THERE? 06:42 DO THEY DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO ACCENT AND ACCENTUATE OUR 06:47 DISAGREEMENTS - MANUFACTURING THINGS THAT REALLY AREN'T REAL? 06:51 SOMETIMES BECAUSE OF OUR SLIGHTED PRIDE - AND THEY GET 06:55 MAGNIFIED - AND THE DEVIL IS WORKING ALL THE TIME TO CREATE 06:59 THE VISION AND CAUSE FRIENDLY FIRE. 07:02 THIS IS HIS PLAN. 07:04 HE IS TRYING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS. 07:07 LIKE I SAID A MINUTE AGO - YOU MIGHT BE THINKING, 'WELL PASTOR 07:09 DOUG, YEAH, BUT THIS PERSON - IT WASN'T IMAGINED - THEY REALLY 07:13 DID SOMETHING VERY MEAN TO ME.' ALL RIGHT, ANOTHER SCENARIO: 07:19 NICE FAMILY INVITES YOU OVER TO THEIR HOUSE FOR DINNER SOME DAY 07:23 AFTER CHURCH AND YOU'VE NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE, 07:25 THEY SEEM LIKE SWEET PEOPLE AND YOU SIT AROUND AS DINNER 07:28 IS BEING PREPARED. 07:29 YOU VISIT, YOU'RE HAVING A WONDERFUL TIME, AND THEY SAY 07:30 'WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO SIT DOWN AT THE DINING TABLE AND 07:32 WE'RE GOING TO EAT.' YOU SAY 'IS THERE SOMEWHERE 07:34 I CAN WASH MY HANDS?' 'SURE, THERE DOWN THE HALL 07:36 TO THE RIGHT.' AND SO YOU MEANDER THROUGH THEIR 07:38 HOUSE, YOU FIND THE RESTROOM AND YOU WASH YOUR HANDS AND AS YOU 07:40 COME OUT OF THE RESTROOM THERE IS THIS GRUMPY OLD MAN THERE 07:44 AND HE SAYS, 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? YOU'RE 07:48 NOT - THIS IS MY BATHROOM. 07:49 DON'T YOU USE MY BATHROOM.' HE SAYS, 'BY THE WAY, 07:52 YOU'RE UGLY. 07:55 AND I DON'T LIKE STRANGERS IN MY HOUSE AND I HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO 07:58 EAT WHEN ALL THESE STRANGE PEOPLE COME OVER EATING MY FOOD 08:01 AND I HOPE I NEVER SEE YOU.' AND THEN THEY BEGIN TO HURL 08:04 INSULTS AND CURSE AT YOU - JUST AS MEAN AS YOU CAN IMAGINE AND 08:09 BOY, YOUR HEART STARTS TO RACE AND YOU GET ALL UPSET AND PRETTY 08:12 SOON YOU GO TO THE HALL AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR COAT 08:15 AND YOUR HOST SAYS, 'WHAT'S HAPPENING?' 08:16 YOU SAY, 'I'M LEAVING!' 'WHAT'S HAPPENING?' 08:18 'THIS MAN - I'VE NEVER BEEN SPOKEN TO LIKE THAT BEFORE 08:20 IN MY LIFE!' THEY SAID, 'YOU DIDN'T RUN INTO 08:23 GRANDPA DID YOU?' 'I DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS.' 08:27 'YOU RAN INTO GRANDPA. 08:29 PLEASE DON'T GET UPSET. 08:31 GRANDPA'S NOT WELL. 08:35 GRANDPA HAS DEMENTIA. 08:38 HE USED TO BE THE NICEST GUY IN THE WORLD BUT JUST PART OF HIS 08:40 BRAIN ISN'T HEALTHY AND HE JUST - NOW WE DON'T KNOW 08:43 WHAT'S GOING ON.' AND AS SOON AS YOU REALIZE THAT 08:48 GRANDPA'S SICK YOU SAY, 'OH, I GUESS I UNDERSTAND NOW. 08:53 THEY CAN'T HELP IT. 08:53 THEY'RE NOT WELL.' THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH 08:58 WHO ARE SICK AND THEY DO MEAN THINGS. 09:04 IF THEY ARE NOT FILLED WITH GOD'S SPIRIT THEY'VE GOT 09:06 A DIABOLICAL DEMENTIA. 09:09 AND THEY'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT THEM TO DO. 09:13 AND SO, DON'T TAKE IT OUT ON JESUS. 09:16 DON'T TAKE IT OUT ON THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH AND YOUR 09:19 RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHURCH, JUST SAY, 09:21 'ALL RIGHT BROTHER/SISTER, SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY.' 09:24 AND THEN YOU CAN WALK UP AND YOU CAN SAY TO YOURSELF, 09:26 'SPIRITUAL DEMENTIA. 09:30 THEY'RE - THEY'RE JUST NOT WELL. 09:32 THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LOVE IN THEIR HEART.' 09:34 WE ALL DO SELFISH THINGS - EVEN IN JESUS' DAY. 09:38 ONE MOMENT JESUS SAYS TO THE APOSTLES 'WHO DO YOU SAY 09:43 THAT I AM?' PETER JUMPS UP, HE SAYS, 09:45 'YOU ARE THE CHRIST. 09:46 THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.' AND JESUS GIVES PETER THE 09:49 GREATEST COMPLIMENT HE EVER HAD. 09:51 HE SAID, 'SIMON PETER, FLESH AND BLOOD DID NOT REVEAL THAT UNTO 09:53 YOU BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD SPOKE TO YOU.' 09:58 BEFORE TWENTY MINUTES GO BY JESUS SAYS, 'I'VE GOT TO 10:00 GO TO JERUSALEM. 10:01 I'M GOING TO BE BETRAYED THERE. 10:02 I'LL BE CRUCIFIED. 10:03 I'LL RISE THE THIRD DAY.' PETER COMES OVER, HE SAYS, 10:05 'LORD, DON'T TALK LIKE THAT. 10:07 THIS IS NOT GOD'S PLAN FOR YOU.' THAT SAME JESUS TURNS TO PETER 10:11 AND HE SAYS, 'GET BEHIND ME SATAN, YOU'VE GOT DEMENTIA.' 10:18 JESUS LOOKED BEHIND HIS FRIEND PETER TO WHO WAS OPERATING 10:23 THROUGH PETER AND HE DIDN'T BLAME PETER, 10:25 HE BLAMED THE DEVIL. 10:27 PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH HURT EACH OTHER BECAUSE THE DEVIL OFTEN 10:30 SPEAKS SOMETIMES THROUGH THOSE CLOSEST TO US. 10:34 YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE YOUR BEST FIGHTS ON YOUR WAY TO CHURCH 10:38 WITH YOUR LOVED ONES. 10:40 ISN'T THAT RIGHT? 10:43 IT'S INTERESTING, THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT WE'RE TO 10:45 LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR - NEIGHBOR IS A NIGH BROTHER. 10:48 NIGH BROTHERS ARE NOT ANY CLOSER THAN THOSE IN YOUR FAMILY AND 10:51 THOSE IN YOUR CHURCH. 10:52 IT SAYS, 'LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR' AND THEN JESUS SAYS, 10:54 'AND LOVE YOUR ENEMY.' I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT HE 10:56 SAYS WE SHOULD LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR AND LOVE OUR ENEMY. 10:58 IS IT BECAUSE - IS IT POSSIBLE THAT OUR NEIGHBOR OFTEN 11:02 BECOMES OUR ENEMY? 11:04 IT'S SOMETIMES OUR NIGH-BROTHER OR SISTER CAN BECOME OUR 11:09 GREATEST ADVERSARY. 11:11 KING DAVID COMES HOME FROM PRAISING THE LORD IN THE STREET 11:14 - THERE'S A PARADE WITH GOD AND HIS ARK AND EVERYBODY'S SINGING 11:16 - HE'S ON CLOUD NINE AND HE WALKS THROUGH THE DOOR AND HIS 11:19 WIFE SAID, 'BOY, YOU MADE SUCH A SPECTACLE 11:21 OUT OF YOURSELF TODAY.' BRING HIM RIGHT BACK DOWN AGAIN. 11:27 SOMETIMES IT'S THOSE RIGHT IN THE FAMILY. 11:30 DON'T BE DISCOURAGED BY THAT. 11:33 1 PETER, CHAPTER 5, VERSES 5 THROUGH 7, "LIKEWISE 11:38 YOU YOUNGER PEOPLE, SUBMIT YOURSELVES TO YOUR ELDERS. 11:41 YES, ALL OF YOU BE SUBMISSIVE TO ONE ANOTHER" - BE SUBMISSIVE TO 11:45 ONE ANOTHER - "AND BE CLOTHED WITH HUMILITY." 11:50 I'VE DONE MORE MARRIAGE COUNSELING THAN I'M QUALIFIED TO 11:53 DO OR THAT I WANT TO DO. 11:55 BUT ONE THING I'VE FOUND IN MOST CASES - THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF 12:00 SELFISHNESS AND PRIDE INVOLVED. 12:04 SOMEBODY'S BEING - USUALLY BOTH - THERE'S SOME SELFISHNESS 12:06 AND PRIDE. 12:09 AND WE'D HAVE A LOT FEWER CONFLICTS IN THE CHURCH FAMILY 12:12 IF WE WOULD HUMBLE OURSELVES BEFORE THE LORD AND 12:14 BEFORE EACH OTHER. 12:16 SUBMIT YOURSELVES - 'CLOTHED WITH HUMILITY, BECAUSE 12:18 'GOD RESISTS THE PROUD, BUT HE GIVES GRACE TO THE HUMBLE.'' 12:23 SO DID YOU LEAVE? 12:26 YOU WERE OUT WORKING FOR GOD. 12:27 YOU WERE DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS AND THEN THEY STILL 12:28 MISTREATED YOU. 12:31 AFTER YEARS OF PATIENCE ELIJAH TRIED TO BRING REVIVAL TO ISRAEL 12:35 - PRAYING FOR REVIVAL AND GOD EVEN ANSWERED HIS PRAYER THROUGH 12:38 - THE FAMINE WAS AN ANSWER TO PRAYER. 12:41 AND THEN LATER HE HAD THIS INCREDIBLE MIRACULOUS EXPERIENCE 12:43 ON MOUNT CARMEL - FIRE COMES DOWN FROM HEAVEN. 12:46 THEN HE PRAYS AGAIN AND RAIN COMES DOWN FROM HEAVEN. 12:48 AND AFTER THE RAIN FROM GOD AND THE FIRE OF GOD, PEOPLE IN THE 12:52 CHURCH STILL WANT TO KILL HIM. 12:55 AND ELIJAH SAYS, 'I'M OUTTA HERE.' 12:58 I MEAN, YOU CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH. 13:00 AND HE GETS UP AND HE RUNS AND YOU CAN FIND THIS IN YOUR BIBLE 13:02 IF YOU LOOK IN THE FIRST BOOK OF KINGS, CHAPTER 19, VERSE 4 - 13:08 ELIJAH "HIMSELF WENT A DAY'S JOURNEY INTO THE WILDERNESS, - 13:11 AND THEN HE PRAYED HE MIGHT DIE." 13:14 HERE IS A SERVANT OF GOD. 13:15 HE LEAVES ISRAEL - STARTS HEADING AS FAR AWAY AS HE CAN - 13:18 YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE KNOWS WHERE HE'S GOING AT FIRST - 'I'M 13:21 NO BETTER THAN MY FATHERS' - AND, YOU KNOW, GOD STILL SPEAKS 13:24 TO HIM THERE EVEN THOUGH HE'S RUNNING THE WRONG WAY. 13:28 DOES THE LORD STILL TRY TO REACH US WHEN WE'RE RUNNING 13:29 THE WRONG WAY? 13:32 AN ANGEL APPEARS TO HIM - GIVES HIM FOOD AND GIVES HIM WATER - 13:34 AND IN THE STRENGTH OF THE FOOD THE ANGEL GAVE HIM HE TAKES THAT 13:38 AND INSTEAD OF GOING BACK TO ISRAEL, HE RUNS FURTHER 13:40 IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. 13:42 IT SAYS IN VERSE 9 HE GOES TO MOUNT SINAI "AND HE WENT TO A 13:46 CAVE, AND HE SPENT A NIGHT IN THAT PLACE" - I'VE DONE THAT 13:50 BEFORE - "AND HE BEHELD THE WORD OF THE LORD CAME TO HIM AND 13:55 IT SAID TO HIM, 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE, 13:57 ELIJAH?'" - TRANSLATION: 'WHY DID YOU LEAVE? 14:03 I TOLD YOU EVERYTHING YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. 14:05 I ANSWERED YOUR PRAYERS. 14:06 I'VE BEEN GUIDING YOU BUT I DON'T REMEMBER TELLING YOU 14:08 'RUN FROM YOUR PEOPLE.' WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?' 14:13 AND HE THEN BEGAN TO GIVE THE LORD HIS EXCUSES. 14:16 YOU TALK TO A PERSON THAT'S LEFT CHURCH AND THEY USUALLY HAVE A 14:19 LIST - BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT'S BOTHERING THEM SO THEY'VE GOT TO 14:21 GET A LIST TO CALM THEIR CONSCIENCE - AND THEY'VE GOT ALL 14:24 THESE RATIONALIZATIONS FOR WHY THEY DON'T GO TO CHURCH - 14:28 IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT JESUS TELLS US THAT THIS IS HIS BODY. 14:33 "HE SAID, 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?' 14:34 HE SAID, 'I'VE BEEN ZEALOUS FOR THE LORD GOD OF HOSTS.'" 14:37 - I'VE STILL GOT A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD - "AND FOR THE 14:39 CHILDREN OF ISRAEL BUT THEY'VE FORSAKEN YOUR COVENANT" 14:42 - THEY'VE COMPROMISED - "THEY'VE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS" - 14:45 THEY'RE NOT WORSHIPING RIGHT - "THEY'VE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS" 14:48 THEY DON'T RESPECT THE TRUE PREACHERS AND THEY PERSECUTE 14:50 THE TRUE ONES AND INSTALL THE FALSE ONES - 14:54 HAVE YOU EVER HEARD PEOPLE STOP GOING FOR THOSE REASONS? 14:57 "AND I'M THE ONLY LEFT; AND NOW THEY TRIED TO TAKE MY LIFE SO 15:02 I'M OUT OF HERE" - I TRIED TO STAND - I WAS 15:05 THE ONLY PERSON EXCITED ON FIRE IN THAT CHURCH AND I LEFT. 15:09 "AND THEN GOD SAID, 'GO OUT AND STAND ON THE MOUNTAIN'" AND 15:13 ELIJAH WENT OUT AND STOOD ON THE MOUNTAIN AND IT SAYS, "THE LORD 15:16 PASSED BY AND THERE WAS A GREAT AND STRONG WIND AND IT TORE THE 15:19 MOUNTAINS" - IT TORE THE ROCKS - "BUT THE LORD WASN'T IN THE 15:23 WIND; AND AFTERWARD THERE WAS AN EARTHQUAKE, AND THE LORD WAS NOT 15:28 IN THE EARTHQUAKE;" AND IT SAYS THERE WAS "A FIRE, AND THE LORD 15:32 WAS NOT IN THE FIRE." 15:36 AND AFTER HE HEARD IT HE WENT AND STOOD IN THE MOUTH OF THE 15:37 CAVE AND GOD SAYS TO ELIJAH, AFTER ALL OF THIS, HE SAYS, 15:40 "WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?" 15:44 YOU CAN SEE ALL KINDS OF POWERFUL THINGS THAT ARE 15:46 HAPPENING BUT NONE OF THEM MIGHT HAVE THE LORD IN IT. 15:50 SOMETIMES WE CAN CONFUSE POWERFUL THINGS THAT ARE 15:52 HAPPENING FOR THE WILL OF GOD - AND GOD WAS SAYING TO ELIJAH, 15:57 'JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE THE FIRE AND THE EARTHQUAKE AND THE WIND 16:00 - I WASN'T IN THOSE THINGS. 16:02 I WAS BACK IN ISRAEL AND I WANTED YOU BACK THERE. 16:05 I BROUGHT YOU IN TO BRING REVIVAL' - BY THE WAY, 16:08 HAVE YOU NOTICED IT'S HARD TO CLEAN A HOUSE WHEN YOU'RE 16:09 NOT IN THE HOUSE? 16:13 IF YOU'VE GOT A BOAT THAT'S FILLING UP WITH WATER - YOU'RE 16:17 OUT IN THE OCEAN - A LITTLE SAIL BOAT AND IT'S GOT A LITTLE HOLE 16:19 IN IT - IT'S HARD TO BAIL THE BOAT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE WATER. 16:23 YOU'VE GOT TO BE IN THE BOAT. 16:26 AND SO AFTER ALL THIS HAPPENS GOD SAYS TO ELIJAH ANOTHER TIME, 16:29 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?' FINALLY, VERSE 15, GOD SAYS, 16:36 "GO, RETURN." 16:39 MATTER OF FACT, WOULD YOU SAY THAT WITH ME? 16:42 GO, RETURN. 16:45 SOME OF YOU WHO ARE LISTENING OR WATCHING OUT THERE, THAT'S THE 16:50 WORD OF GOD WHEN HE SAYS, 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?' 16:53 'BUT LORD, AFTER ALL THEY'VE DONE TO ME - 16:54 I'M THE ONLY ONE LEFT.' AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE LORD SAID 16:56 TO ELIJAH? 16:57 'I'VE GOT 7,000 KNEES THAT STILL HAVEN'T BOWED TO BAAL, DON'T 17:01 THINK THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT STILL LOVES ME OUT THERE - 17:04 THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY TRUE BELIEVER STILL LEFT 17:05 IN THE CHURCH. 17:08 YOU'RE NOT THE BEST JUDGE OF PEOPLE'S HEARTS. 17:11 GO, RETURN. 17:13 I WANT A REVIVAL AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN 17:14 IF YOU'RE NOT THERE.' ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOING 17:17 TO BRING REVIVAL IS IF GOD'S PEOPLE PULL TOGETHER. 17:21 AND WE'VE GOT TO STOP FRAGMENTING AND RUNNING FOR THE 17:23 HILLS LIKE ELIJAH - ELIJAH WAS A GOOD MAN OF GOD - 17:27 SINCERE AND HONEST - BUT HE WENT THE WRONG WAY. 17:31 GO AND RETURN. 17:33 AND HE DID. 17:35 YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TOO BECAUSE SOME 17:38 PEOPLE ARE HURTING AND WE DON'T KNOW. 17:41 WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO CHURCH WONDERING HOW PEOPLE TREAT US. 17:44 WE OUGHT TO BE THINKING MORE SELFLESSLY AND SAYING, 'LORD, 17:47 WHEN I GO TO CHURCH I WANT TO GO AND MINISTER. 17:49 GIVE ME THAT SENSITIVITY TO ASK, 'HOW IS THIS PERSON FEELING? 17:54 HOW CAN I MINISTER TO THEM? 17:55 WE'VE GOT TO GET OUT OF OURSELVES AND THINK ABOUT CARING 17:58 FOR AND CONSOLING AND COMFORTING ONE ANOTHER. 18:01 1 THESSALONIANS 5:11, "THEREFORE COMFORT EACH OTHER 18:06 EDIFY ONE ANOTHER, JUST AS YOU ARE ALSO DOING." 18:10 GALATIANS 6:2, PAUL SAID, "BEAR ONE ANOTHER'S BURDENS AND 18:15 SO FULFILL THE LAW OF CHRIST." 18:18 'CONFESS YOUR FAULTS TO ONE ANOTHER AND PRAY FOR 18:21 ONE ANOTHER.' WE NEED TO CARE ABOUT EACH 18:23 OTHER'S HEALTH BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DOING POORLY, THE WHOLE CHURCH 18:26 IS DOING POORLY, AND THEN I'M DOING POORLY. 18:30 WE'RE PART OF AN ARMY, GOD SAYS. 18:33 AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW WE'VE GOT EACH OTHER'S BACKS - 18:37 AND WE'RE NOT STABBING EACH OTHER IN THE BACK. 18:39 WE'VE GOT TO CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER. 18:42 WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ALL BE PART OF THAT TEMPLE OF GOD - 18:45 WE ARE ALL PART OF THAT HOUSEHOLD OF GOD. 18:48 THE BIBLE SAYS WE ARE LIVING STONES. 18:51 HE WANTS TO BUILD UP A CHURCH - WE ARE HIS BODY. 18:54 JESUS SAID, 'DESTROY THIS TEMPLE THAT IS MADE WITH HANDS AND 18:59 IN THREE DAYS I WILL MAKE A TEMPLE WITHOUT HANDS' - 19:01 AND HE LATER EXPLAINED HE WAS SPEAKING OF HIS BODY. 19:04 AND WHAT IS THE CHURCH CALLED? 19:07 IT'S THE BODY OF CHRIST. 19:09 YOU CAN READ IN EPHESIANS CHAPTER 2 - THIS IS A GOOD VERSE 19:12 - "NOW, THEREFORE, YOU ARE NO LONGER STRANGERS AND FOREIGNERS, 19:15 BUT FELLOW CITIZENS WITH THE SAINTS..." 19:19 WE'RE NOT STRANGERS, WE'RE ALL PART OF THE SAME COUNTRY NOW. 19:23 FELLOW CITIZENS. 19:25 YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS NICE WHEN YOU'VE GOT SOME KIND OF AN 19:28 IDENTITY AND YOU FEEL LIKE YOU BELONG SOMEWHERE. 19:32 WE'VE GOT THIS IDEA THAT CHURCH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A 19:33 RESORT WHERE EVERYBODY'S NICE. 19:36 EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE NICE AND LOVE ME. 19:39 BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CHURCH IS. 19:42 THE CHURCH IS ACTUALLY A LABORATORY WHERE GOD IS 19:44 REFINING US THROUGH EX - WE'RE BEING SANCTIFIED. 19:48 WE ARE BEING BUILT - WE'RE BEING REFINED 19:51 AND CHISELED AND POLISHED. 19:54 1 CORINTHIANS 5:4, "IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS 19:57 CHRIST, WHEN YOU ARE GATHERED TOGETHER, ALONG WITH MY SPIRIT, 20:01 WITH THE POWER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST..." WE'RE TO COME 20:04 TOGETHER IN HIS SPIRIT. 20:07 'OH, BUT PASTOR DOUG, THERE'S SO MANY HYPOCRITES IN THE CHURCH - 20:11 I STOPPED GOING BECAUSE THERE WERE ALL THESE HYPOCRITES 20:13 IN THE CHURCH. 20:16 WERE THERE HYPOCRITES IN THE EARLY CHURCH? 20:20 EVEN AFTER GOD POURED OUT HIS SPIRIT - AND GOD IS WORKING IN 20:23 MAGNIFICENT WAYS AMONG THE DISCIPLES - YOU HAD 20:26 ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA. 20:28 ACTS CHAPTER 5 - YOU KNOW, PIUS PROFESSION - THEY GO AND SAY, 20:33 'WE'RE MAKING THIS BIG OFFERING. 20:34 WE'VE SOLD ALL OUR PROPERTY - WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A HUNDRED 20:36 PERCENT' - LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH - AND DID GOD DEAL WITH 20:41 THE HYPOCRITES BACK THEN? 20:44 CAN GOD STILL DEAL WITH THEM? 20:46 SOME OF THEM ARE CONVERTED - PETER WAS A HYPOCRITE WHEN HE 20:48 DENIED KNOWING CHRIST, WASN'T HE? 20:52 AND SOME WHO WON'T BE CONVERTED - WELL THEY WERE - THE LORD TOOK 20:57 CARE OF ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA. 20:59 THERE ARE ACHANS IN THE CAMP AND GOD CAN TAKE CARE OF THEM. 21:02 GOD ALSO KNOWS HOW TO SEPARATE THE WHEAT FROM THE CHAFF. 21:05 BUT NOT COMING TO CHURCH BECAUSE THERE ARE HYPOCRITES IN THE 21:07 CHURCH - YOU NEVER WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE CHURCH IN JESUS' DAY 21:11 IF THAT'S YOUR EXCUSE FOR NOT GOING. 21:14 HE WANTS US TO BE TOGETHER - TO STAY TOGETHER. 21:17 'OH, BUT PASTOR, YOU DON'T KNOW - THERE'S - THERE'S ACTUALLY 21:21 LEADERS IN OUR CHURCH THAT ARE JUST UNCONVERTED. 21:24 I CAN'T STAND TO BE THERE. 21:26 IT'S SO HARD TO SIT THERE AND TO LISTEN TO THEM PONTIFICATE AS 21:30 THEY TEACH THE LESSON OR AS THEY PREACH AND THEY'RE JUST 21:33 NOT CONVERTED. 21:34 HOW CAN I GO THERE?' WERE THERE UNCONVERTED LEADERS 21:38 IN BIBLE HISTORY? 21:41 WERE THEY STILL GOD'S PEOPLE? 21:43 I MEAN IN THE DAYS - DID AARON - HE WAS THE HIGH PRIEST - 21:46 DID HE MAKE SOME BAD DECISIONS AND START WORSHIPING WRONG? 21:50 BUT DID HE FINALLY COME AROUND? 21:52 BE CAREFUL NOT TO PRE-JUDGE ANYBODY AND CONSIGN THEM 21:56 TO ETERNAL TORMENT - YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE LORD 21:59 MIGHT CHANGE THEM LATER. 22:01 SOME PEOPLE WHO I THOUGHT 'THIS IS HOPELESS. 22:03 NOBODY'S' - YOU KNOW, YOU THINK THEY'VE GRIEVED AWAY THE HOLY 22:05 SPIRIT - THE LORD'S NEVER GOING TO REACH THEM. 22:07 THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GO THROUGH A RADICAL CONVERSION AND 22:09 THEY BECOME THE NICEST PERSON YOU'VE EVER MET. 22:13 SO, DON'T WRITE ANYBODY OFF. 22:15 YOU'RE UNDERESTIMATING HOW GOD CAN CHANGE PEOPLE. 22:18 ALL OF US ARE IN PROCESS - REMEMBER THAT - THEY MAY BE 22:21 IN A DIFFERENT PLACE ALONG THE PROCESS THAN YOU'RE IN. 22:26 FURTHERMORE, GOD PREDICTED THERE WOULD BE THESE PROBLEMS 22:29 IN THE CHURCH. 22:31 HE WARNED AHEAD OF TIME THAT IN THE CHURCH THERE WERE GOING TO 22:33 BE THE DEVIL'S REPRESENTATIVES. 22:37 WAS THAT A REASON NOT TO GO? 22:40 ACTS CHAPTER 20 - PAUL. 22:42 PAUL KNOWS HE'S GETTING READY TO GO TO PRISON AND THE LORD 22:45 GIVES HIM A PROPHECY. 22:48 HE SAID - ACTS 20, VERSE 29 - "FOR THIS I KNOW, THAT AFTER MY 22:54 DEPARTURE SAVAGE WOLVES WILL COME IN AMONG YOU, 22:59 NOT SPARING THE FLOCK." 23:01 YOU EVER SEEN WOLVES AMONG A FLOCK? 23:05 THEY DON'T JUST GO PICK OFF ONE SHEEP AND DRAG THEM OFF, THEY 23:07 ALMOST SEEM TO REVEL IN BITING AND TAKING DOWN - 23:11 IT'S LIKE ENTERTAINMENT - 'WELL, WE'VE GOT THAT ONE DOWN 23:13 AND WOUNDED, LET'S GO GET ANOTHER ONE.' 23:15 AND IF YOU ASK A SHEPHERD THAT HAS WOLVES RUNNING AMONG THEIR 23:18 SHEEP, THEY DON'T JUST KILL ONE AND EAT IT, THEY'LL SOMETIMES 23:20 GO KILL SEVERAL AND EAT PARTS OF SEVERAL. 23:23 THEY'RE SAVAGE. 23:26 AND THE DEVIL SOMETIMES HAS HIS REPRESENTATIVES - 23:29 THEY GET INTO THE CHURCH AND THEY GO CIRCULATE AND THEY CAUSE 23:31 PROBLEMS AND - AND CARNAGE. 23:34 GOD SAID THAT WOULD HAPPEN. 23:35 THE DEVIL WANTS TO DESTROY THE CHURCH BECAUSE THE CHURCH IS THE 23:39 OBJECT ON EARTH UPON WHICH GOD BESTOWS HIS SUPREME REGARD. 23:45 WHEN JESUS LOOKS DOWN FROM HEAVEN, IF THERE IS A GROUP OR 23:49 A BODY ON THE PLANET THAT HE IS INTENSELY INTERESTED IN, 23:53 WHO IS IT? 23:54 IT'S HIS CHURCH - IT'S HIS BRIDE. 23:59 AND YOU KNOW HOW HE CARES ABOUT HIS BRIDE. 24:02 AND THAT'S WHY HE WANTS US TO STAY - STAY IN THE CHURCH. 24:05 HE SAID, "I KNOW SAVAGE WOLVES WILL COME IN AMONG YOU, 24:08 NOT SPARING THE FLOCK." 24:09 NOTICE HE SAID, "ALSO FROM AMONG YOURSELVES" - 'EVEN,' HE SAID, 24:13 'FROM AMONG SOME OF YOU.' MEN ARE GOING TO RISE UP 24:18 SPEAKING PERVERSE THINGS, NOT TO TEACH THE TRUTH OR BRING PEOPLE 24:22 TO JESUS, BUT TO DRAW AWAY DISCIPLES FOR THEMSELVES. 24:27 YOU KNOW FRIENDS, WE'VE ALL BEEN HURT, AND SOME OF US ARE MAD AT 24:30 SOMEBODY - SOME OF US ARE MAD AT THE LORD. 24:35 YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT'S BEEN HURT. 24:39 WAS JESUS EVER HURT? 24:43 WAS JESUS EVER HURT BY A FRIEND? 24:47 WHAT DID JUDAS DO? 24:51 BETRAYED HIS FRIEND. 24:53 DAVID, JOSEPH, MANY OTHERS IN THE BIBLE - THEY WERE HURT BY 24:59 FRIENDLY FIRE. 25:01 THERE'S A PROPHECY THAT YOU CAN READ IN ZECHARIAH 3:16 - 25:06 SPEAKING OF CHRIST - "AND THEY WILL SAY TO HIM, 25:10 'WHAT ARE THESE WOUNDS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HANDS?' 25:14 AND HE WILL ANSWER AND SAY, 'THOSE WITH WHICH I WAS WOUNDED 25:18 IN THE HOUSE OF MY FRIENDS.'" WOUNDED IN THE HOUSE OF 25:23 HIS FRIENDS. 25:25 YOU KNOW, JESUS WAS WOUNDED. 25:28 HE TOLD US THAT WHEN JUDAS CAME TO KISS HIM IN THE GARDEN, 25:33 JESUS SAID 'FRIEND, DO YOU BETRAY - ARE YOU 25:37 BETRAYING THE SON OF MAN WITH A KISS?' 25:39 HE SAID, 'FRIEND.' AND SOMETIMES FRIENDS 25:42 HURT EACH OTHER. 25:45 YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE A RISK WHENEVER YOU LOVE SOMEBODY - 25:47 WHENEVER YOU OPEN YOURSELF UP AND YOU DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP 25:49 AND YOU CHOOSE TO TRUST SOMEBODY AND YOU CHOOSE TO LOVE SOMEBODY 25:53 AND YOU SHARE WHO YOU ARE WITH THAT PERSON, THERE'S ALWAYS THE 25:56 RISK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BETRAY THAT CONFIDENCE - 25:58 THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SLIGHT YOUR LOVE AND YOU'RE GOING TO 26:00 BE HURT. 26:01 SO WHAT'S THE ANSWER? 26:03 RUN OFF TO SOUTH DAKOTA? 26:06 TO JUST GO TO MOUNT SINAI AND HIDE IN A CAVE? 26:10 MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN RUNNING FROM GOD. 26:13 JESUS IS WANTING YOU TO KNOW, 'I AM YOUR FRIEND AND I WILL 26:16 NEVER LET YOU DOWN. 26:18 I WILL NEVER BETRAY YOU.' >>STAY TUNED. 26:21 WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH THIS WEEK'S SPECIAL OFFER. 26:32 >>YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WANDERING FROM JESUS AND 26:35 IT STARTS BY MAKING SMALL COMPROMISES. 26:41 GOD DOES NOT WANT TO LOSE ONE. 26:44 GOD IS NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD BE LOST - AND THAT WOULD 26:48 INCLUDE SOME OF YOU WHO THINK THAT YOU'VE WANDERED TOO FAR. 26:53 HAVE WE SOMETIMES FORGOTTEN THE VALUE OF ONE? 26:57 JESUS WOULD LAY DOWN HIS LIFE FOR ONE. 27:06 >>THIRTY-THREE MINERS TRAPPED BENEATH THE CHILEAN DESERT. 27:11 IT WAS THE GREATEST MINE RESCUE OF ALL TIME. 27:16 WHAT DROVE THESE PEOPLE TO DEFY FAILURE AND PERSEVERE AGAINST 27:19 ALL ODDS? 27:22 WHAT IMMPELLED THE MINERS TO FIND THE COURAGE TO FIGHT 27:25 AGAINST ALMOST CERTAIN DEATH? 27:30 PASTOR CARLOS PARRA - KNOWN AS THE CHAPLAIN OF CAMP HOPE - 27:35 ANSWERS THESE QUESTIONS WITH A PERSONAL ACCOUNT IN HIS BOOK 27:38 'HOPE UNDERGROUND.' 'HOPE UNDERGROUND' IS A VIVID 27:44 DESCRIPTION OF HOW FAITH AND HOPE PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN THE 27:47 MINERS' SUCCESSFUL RESCUE. 27:50 'HOPE UNDERGROUND' - A TRUE STORY THAT HAS TOUCHED 27:54 MILLIONS AND THAT WILL INSPIRE YOU TO SEE LIFE'S CRISES 27:57 THROUGH DIFFERENT EYES. 28:06 >>THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS WEEKS' 28:08 SPECIAL FREE OFFER. 28:10 THERE IS NO COST OR OBLIGATION. 28:12 JUST CALL THE TOLL-FREE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN AND BE SURE TO 28:15 NOTE THE OFFER NUMBER WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR REQUEST. 28:24 >>THE PRECEDING WAS A PAID PRESENTATION BROUGHT TO YOU BY |
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