Participants: Doug Batchelor
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Program Code: AFP000136
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01:03 AMAZING FACTS MINISTRY. 01:11 >>IN OUR MESSAGE TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE 01:15 MYSTERY OF THE TRINITY. THERE ARE THREE DIVINE EQUAL, 01:20 ETERNAL PERSONS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN YOUR CREATION 01:26 AND IN YOUR REDEMPTION. 01:31 >>FOR OVER 40 YEARS AMAZING FACTS HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO 01:34 SHARING GOD'S WORD THROUGH MEDIA. 01:36 THIS PROGRAM FEATURES HIGHLIGHTS FROM SOME OF OUR BEST 01:40 TELEVISION BROADCASTS. WE INVITE YOU TO SIT BACK AND 01:42 ENJOY THIS EDITION OF AMAZING FACTS PRESENTS. 01:51 >>IN OUR MESSAGE TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE 01:55 MYSTERY OF THE TRINITY. THE TRINITY IS PROBABLY ONE OF 02:01 THE DEEPEST AND MOST SUBLIME, PROFOUND SUBJECTS THAT WE COULD 02:06 EXPLORE. IN OUR PRAYER, PREPARING FOR THE 02:10 SERVICE, OUR BROTHER JUST SAID 'WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO PASTOR 02:14 DOUG EXPLAINING THIS MYSTERY.' I WANT TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IT 02:18 WILL STILL BE A MYSTERY WHEN THE SERMON IS OVER. 02:21 SO I'M NOT GOING TO PRESUME THAT I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO UNLOCK 02:27 ALL THE MYSTERIES OF GOD FOR YOU. 02:28 THIS IS A MYSTERY THAT WE WILL DELVE INTO A LITTLE BIT TOGETHER 02:32 AND THERE'LL BE MANY THINGS THAT ARE STILL VERY MYSTERIOUS 02:35 ABOUT IT. IT'S LIKE YOU AND I TRYING TO 02:38 LOOK AT THE COSMOS THROUGH A MAGNIFYING GLASS. 02:41 WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE IT ALL IN. 02:44 SO IN THE BIBLE, WHEN WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE MYSTERY OF THE 02:47 TRINITY, WE'RE VENTURING ON HOLY GROUND. 02:53 IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO TAKE MY 02:55 SHOES OFF DURING THIS SERMON. THE CARPET WOULD FEEL PRETTY 02:58 GOOD, I KNOW, BUT IT MIGHT BE A DISTRACTION FOR YOU. 03:04 BUT IT IS HOLY GROUND AND THE BIBLE'S PRETTY CLEAR: 03:07 WE CANNOT UNDERSTAND GOD. 03:09 LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A FEW VERSES. 03:10 IN FACT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A PENCIL HANDY, WE'LL BE LOOKING 03:14 AT A LOT OF SCRIPTURE TODAY AND I'LL BE READING THEM QUICKLY 03:17 SO AS TO COVER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 03:19 "'FOR MY THOUGHTS ARE NOT YOUR THOUGHTS, NOR ARE YOUR WAYS MY 03:23 WAYS,' SAYS THE LORD, 'FOR AS THE HEAVENS ARE HIGHER THAN THE 03:26 EARTH, SO ARE MY WAYS HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS, AND MY THOUGHTS 03:30 THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.'" GOD IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN WE CAN 03:34 COMPREHEND. PSALM 145, VERSE 3, "GREAT IS THE LORD, AND GREATLY 03:39 TO BE PRAISED; AND HIS GREATNESS IS UNSEARCHABLE." 03:43 NOW, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SAVED - AND I PRAY I AM - I PRAY YOU ARE 03:48 - THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE, RIGHT? 03:51 YOU'LL LIVE FOR HOW LONG? FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER. 03:57 WILL YOU EVER SAY 'I UNDERSTAND GOD'? 04:01 SO IF THROUGH ETERNITY WE KNOW THAT WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO 04:04 FULLY COMPREHEND GOD - YOU HAVE TO BE GOD TO UNDERSTAND GOD - 04:09 THEN HOW MUCH CAN WE KNOW IN THIS LIFE? 04:11 BUT THE LORD DOES WANT US TO KNOW WHAT HE'S REVEALED. 04:15 BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A BIG SUBJECT AND WE'RE NOT 04:17 CLAIMING THAT WE CAN UNPACK IT FOR YOU. 04:20 AGAIN, ROMANS 11:33, "OH, THE DEPTH OF THE RICHES BOTH OF THE 04:24 WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE OF GOD! HOW UNSEARCHEABLE ARE HIS 04:28 JUDGMENTS AND HIS WAYS PAST FINDING OUT?" 04:32 PAST FINDING OUT. JOB 26:14, "INDEED THESE ARE THE 04:37 MERE EDGES OF HIS WAYS, AND HOW SMALL A WHISPER WE HEAR OF HIM! 04:42 BUT THE THUNDER OF HIS POWER WHO CAN UNDERSTAND?" 04:46 HERE IN THIS WORLD WE JUST GET A FRAGMENT OF A WHISPER OF WHAT 04:50 THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT GOD, BUT WHO CAN COMPREHEND THE THUNDER? 04:53 'WHAT'S THUNDER COMPARED TO A WHISPER?' 04:56 - IS WHAT JOB IS SAYING. WHO CAN UNDERSTAND? 04:59 JOHN WESLEY SAID, 'BRING ME A WORM THAT CAN COMPREHEND A MAN 05:04 AND I'LL SHOW YOU A MAN THAT CAN COMPREHEND THE TRIUNE GOD.' SO I 05:08 JUST WANTED TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK HERE THAT I'M NOT 05:11 PRETENDING THAT I'M NOW GOING TO REVEAL THE MYSTERY OF GOD OR THE 05:14 TRINITY, BUT LET'S LOOK AT SOME THINGS THAT ARE REVEALED IN THE 05:18 BIBLE AND UNDERSTAND THIS AS WELL AS WE CAN. 05:21 NOW THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SUBJECT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. 05:24 DO YOU KNOW WARS HAVE BEEN FOUGHT OVER THIS SUBJECT? 05:27 IT'S BEEN - NATIONS HAVE BEEN ERADICATED BECAUSE OF 05:32 DISAGREEMENTS OVER THE BELIEF OF THE SUBJECT. 05:35 NOW SOMEONE'S GOING TO SAY, 'DOUG, YOU'RE TEACHING A 05:37 DOCTRINE THAT'S NOT EVEN IN THE BIBLE. 05:39 YOU DON'T FIND THE WORD TRINITY IN THE BIBLE.' THAT'S TRUE. 05:42 YOU DO NOT FIND THE WORD 'TRINITY' IN THE BIBLE. 05:44 THE WORD 'TRINITY' SIMPLY MEANS 'TRI' - LIKE A TRICYCLE HAS HOW 05:47 MANY WHEELS? THREE. TRI-'ENTITY' - THREE ENTITIES. 05:51 IT'S TALKING - IT'S A WORD THAT WE USE TO DESCRIBE THE DOCTRINE 05:54 OF THE THREE ENTITIES IN THE GODHEAD. 05:56 THE BIBLE DOES USE THE WORD 'GODHEAD'. 05:58 THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE WORD TRINITY. 06:00 YOU DON'T FIND THE WORD. RAPTURE IN THE BIBLE. 06:02 YOU DON'T FIND THE WORD 'BIBLE' IN THE BIBLE. 06:06 SO WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE BIBLE BECAUSE THE WORD 'BIBLE' 06:08 IS NOT IN THE BIBLE? 06:10 THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS THAT WE DON'T FIND, PER SE - MILLENNIUM 06:13 IS NOT IN THE BIBLE BUT IF WE TALK ABOUT THE DOCTRINE OF THE 06:15 MILLENNIUM IT TALKS ABOUT THE THOUSAND-YEAR PERIOD THAT YOU 06:18 SEE THERE IN REVELATION CHAPTER 20 AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF TERMS 06:22 THAT WE USE - THEOLOGICAL TERMS TO DISCUSS VARIOUS DOCTRINES AND 06:26 THIS IS CALLED THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY - THE THREE ENTITIES 06:28 THAT COMPOSE THE BIBLE GOD. AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE 06:33 DISCUSSING. THERE'S NO CONFLICT IN THAT. 06:35 LET ME GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES IN THE BIBLE. 06:39 MATTHEW 28 - SOME OF THE LAST WORDS OF JESUS. 06:42 AFTER HE SENDS THE DISCIPLES INTO THE WORLD HE SAYS, IN 06:46 MATTHEW 28:19, "GO THEREFORE AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL THE 06:49 NATIONS, BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE 06:54 SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT." NOW, IT IS TRUE, IN THE NEW 06:59 TESTAMENT, IN THE BOOK OF ACTS, WHEN THE DISCIPLES WENT OUT IT 07:02 SAYS THEY WENT AND THEY BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD OR IN 07:06 THE NAME OF THE LORD, JESUS OR IN THE NAME OF JESUS. 07:09 BUT JESUS DEFINITELY SAID, 'THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON, AND 07:12 HOLY SPIRIT.' THAT TELLS ME, SOMETIMES, THAT THE EXACT 07:15 WORDING IN THE BAPTISM IS NOT THE BIG ISSUE; IT'S THAT YOU'RE 07:18 GETTING BAPTIZED INTO THE NAME OF THE GOD OF THE BIBLE. 07:23 AND JESUS SAID, 'FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT' 07:25 AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME, AMEN? 07:28 NOW, HERE'S THE QUESTION: CAN GOD BE BIBLICALLY ACCURATE 07:31 SAYING - COULD THE BIBLE BE ACCURATE - CAN CHRISTIANS BE 07:35 RIGHT SAYING, 'THERE'S ONE GOD' AND YET SAYING, 'ONE DOESN'T 07:39 ALWAYS MEAN ONE.' NOW THAT'S THE THING TO UNDERSTAND. 07:44 NOW THIS ISN'T DOUBLE TALK, THIS IS GOOD SCRIPTURE. 07:46 AGAIN, I'M JUST GIVING YOU A FEW VERSES. FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT IN 07:49 THE BEGINNING - GENESIS 1:26 - GOD SAYS, "LET US MAKE MAN 07:55 IN OUR IMAGE, ACCORDING TO OUR LIKENESS." 07:58 NOW, DO YOU HEAR MORE THAN ONE IN THAT? 08:00 DO YOU KNOW THE WORD THAT'S USED THERE IN HEBREW FOR GOD IS 08:04 ELOHIM. THAT WORD 'ELOHIM' IS PLURAL. 08:07 IT'S LIKE 'WE' - 'US' - WHENEVER I SAY THAT THEN - IF I SAY, 'WE 08:13 ARE GOING TO THE STORE.' KAREN WOULD SAY, 'WHO ARE YOU GOING 08:15 WITH?' I WOULD SAY, 'I'M TALKING ABOUT 08:17 MYSELF.' YOU WOULD SAY, 'WHAT'S WRONG? 08:19 DOUG'S TALKING ABOUT 'WE' - HAS HE BECOME SCHIZOPHRENIC? 08:22 HAS HE GOT SPLIT PERSONALITY PROBLEMS?' 08:26 SO WHEN GOD SAYS THIS IT'S NOT BECAUSE GOD IS CONFUSED, THE 08:31 PRIMARY WORD USED FOR 'GOD' OVER 2,700 TIMES IN THE BIBLE IS 08:36 'ELOHIM' - IT'S THE PLURAL. THERE'S THE OTHER WORD 'EL' 08:39 WHICH IS SINGULAR, BUT THE INSPIRED WRITERS CHOSE TO USE 08:43 'ELOHIM' TEN TIMES MORE THAN 'EL'. 08:48 THIS IS ALL THROUGH THE - MOSTLY OLD TESTAMENT. IT'S A PLURAL. 08:52 GOD HAS COMMUNICATED HIMSELF TO US AS A PLURAL GOD BECAUSE HE IS 08:57 COMPOSED OF THESE THREE PERSONS. NOW THIS IS A MYSTERY AND IT MAY 09:01 STILL BE A MYSTERY WHEN WE'RE DONE. 09:04 AND THEN, OF COURSE, - AND SOME PEOPLE CHALLENGE THIS VERSE BUT 09:06 IT'S IN THE BIBLE. I BELIEVE IT. 09:08 1 JOHN 5:7, "FOR THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR WITNESS IN HEAVEN: THE 09:12 FATHER," - THAT'S FATHER - GOD THE FATHER - "THE WORD," - JESUS 09:16 IS THE WORD BECOME FLESH - "AND THE HOLY SPIRIT; AND THESE THREE 09:20 ARE ONE." THAT'S HARD TO MISUNDERSTAND. 09:23 THE THREE ARE ONE. 09:26 JOHN 17:20 - NOW THIS IS, I THINK, THE BEST EXAMPLE. 09:29 THIS IS IN THE SPECIAL INTERCESSORY PRAYER OF JESUS - 09:33 JOHN 17:20 - I'LL READ ALSO VERSE 21. 09:36 CHRIST SAID, "I DO NOT PRAY FOR THESE ALONE, BUT ALSO FOR THOSE 09:40 WHO WILL BELIEVE IN ME THROUGH THEIR WORD;" - WHAT'S HE 09:42 PRAYING? - "THAT THE ALL MAY BE ONE." 09:45 - NOW HE'S PRAYING FOR THE TWELVE APOSTLES AND HE'S PRAYING 09:47 THAT THEY CAN BE ONE. HOW? - "AS YOU, FATHER, ARE IN ME, 09:53 AND I IN YOU." - NOTICE, GOD IS IN JESUS AND 09:55 JESUS IS IN GOD. THAT'S GOING TO COME UP LATER. 09:59 - "THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE" - THERE IT IS AGAIN - "IN US, THAT 10:04 THE WORLD MAY BELIEVE THAT YOU SENT ME." 10:07 SO YOU'VE GOT A NATION THAT'S ONE. 10:09 YOU'VE GOT THE APOSTLES ARE ONE. YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE THAT'S ONE, 10:11 BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S MANY PERSONS INVOLVED IN THOSE. 10:14 SO IT'S NOT INCONSISTENT FOR US TO SAY THAT THERE'S ONE GOD, BUT 10:18 IN THE CHRISTIAN - ONE GOD - IT IS COMPOSED OF THREE PERSONS. 10:23 NOW, I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT 'IS JESUS GOD AND IS 10:27 THE HOLY SPIRIT GOD?' YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR ME TALK 10:30 A LOT ABOUT 'IS GOD THE FATHER GOD?' YOU KNOW WHY? 10:33 I'VE NEVER RUN INTO ANYBODY THAT HAS THAT PROBLEM. 10:37 MOST CHRISTIANS AGREE THAT GOD THE FATHER IS GOD - THAT HE GETS 10:42 TO BE THE SUPREME GOD AND HE'S ALWAYS BEEN - THOUGH, YOU KNOW, 10:48 THERE ARE, ACTUALLY, SOME WHO BELIEVE THAT THE GOD WHO MADE 10:51 OUR UNIVERSE ONCE WAS A LOWER GOD BUT HE'S WORKED HIS WAY UP 10:56 TO BEING A BIGGER GOD AND THERE ARE OTHER GODS ABOVE HIM - IF 11:00 YOU COULD GO FAR ENOUGH INTO SPACE YOU'D FIND THEM. 11:03 THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT WOULD IMPLY THAT GOD IS LEARNING 11:09 AND HOW COULD YOU KNOW EVERYTHING AND STILL LEARN? 11:13 ASK A TEENAGER (LAUGHTER) IN HIGH SCHOOL. 11:19 SO GOD, OBVIOUSLY, IF HE KNOWS EVERYTHING, AND IF HE IS 11:24 ALMIGHTY, HOW CAN HE BE MIGHTIER THAN ALMIGHTY? 11:29 BUT MOST PEOPLE AGREE THAT GOD IS SUPREME, BUT THEY STRUGGLE 11:33 WITH 'WHAT IS THE ROLE OF JESUS AND WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE 11:36 SPIRIT?' BY THE WAY, ANOTHER VIEW OF 11:39 ARIANISM IS THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT A PERSON - NOT ONLY THAT 11:43 HE WAS CREATED BY JESUS - BUT THAT HE'S NOT A PERSON BUT HE'S 11:46 'THE FORCE' - KIND OF AN IMPERSONAL FORCE 11:49 THAT GOD WORKS THROUGH. 11:52 AND SO, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE CONCEPTS. 11:55 FIRST OF ALL, IS JESUS FULLY GOD? 12:01 WELL, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. 12:03 MATTHEW 1:23, "'THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL,' WHICH IS 12:08 TRANSLATED, 'GOD WITH US.'" THE INCARNATION IS GOD - FULLY A 12:15 HUNDRED PERCENT GOD BECOMING A MAN - THAT'S A MYSTERY. 12:18 YOU'VE GOT A MYSTERY OF GODLINESS IN THE BIBLE AND 12:21 THAT'S HOW GOD BECAME A MAN. YOU HAVE A MYSTERY OF INIQUITY 12:24 IN THE BIBLE AND THAT'S HOW A CREATURE - THE DEVIL - 12:26 WANTED TO BE GOD. HOW COULD THE CREATURE THINK, 12:30 'I CAN OVERTHROW THE CREATOR'? THAT'S A CRAZY THOUGHT. 12:32 THAT'S A MYSTERY TO ME - HOW THE DEVIL THINKS THAT HE CAN SOMEHOW 12:35 LAUNCH A WAR - HE'S A CREATION - AGAINST HIS CREATOR. 12:39 HOW SOMETHING THAT HAD A LIMITED EXISTENCE COULD LAUNCH A WAR AND 12:44 SAY, 'I AM GOING TO TAKE OVER THE PLACE OF THE ONE WHO IS 12:47 SELF-EXISTENT AND ETERNAL. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? 12:50 BUT THAT'S WHAT HE DID. >>THERE IS NO SUBJECT 12:54 BIGGER THAN GOD. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GOD, 12:57 WELL, THE BIBLE SAYS HE'S PAST FINDING OUT. 13:00 BUT THERE IS AN ABUNDANT AMOUNT OF TRUTH IN THE BIBLE THAT 13:03 REVEALS SOMETHING TO US ABOUT THE NATURE OF GOD: WHO ARE THE 13:07 FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT? IS JESUS GOD? 13:10 IS THE HOLY SPIRIT GOD? WOULD YOU LIKE TO UNDERSTAND 13:13 THIS FROM A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE? 13:15 THEN WE HAVE A FREE OFFER FOR YOU WE REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO 13:17 SEND FOR SO THAT YOU CAN KNOW THIS GOD BETTER. 13:20 IT'S CALLED THE TRINITY: IS IT BIBLICAL? 13:23 WE INVITE YOU TO SEND FOR THIS, READ IT, AND THEN SHARE IT WITH 13:26 YOUR FRIENDS. TO GET YOUR FREE COPY, CALL THE 13:28 NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN AND ASK FOR OFFER #166 OR 13:32 VISIT THE WEB ADDRESS. AND, WHEN YOU GET YOUR FREE 13:35 RESOURCE, MAKE SURE AND READ IT AND THEN SHARE IT WITH SOMEONE 13:38 ELSE, BECAUSE GOD'S MESSAGE IS OUR MISSION. 13:42 SO THERE'S THE MYSTERY OF GOD - GOD LOWERING HIMSELF AND 13:46 BECOMING A MAN - AND THERE'S THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY - THE 13:48 CREATURE TRYING TO EXALT HIMSELF AND BECOME GOD. 13:52 WHAT DID THE DEVIL SAY TO ADAM AND EVE? 13:54 'LISTEN TO ME, YOU'LL BE LIKE GOD.' WHY DID HE SAY THAT? 13:57 THAT'S WHAT HE WANTED. PEOPLE OFTEN SUPERIMPOSE ON 14:01 OTHERS THEIR DESIRES. HEBREWS 1:8, IS JESUS GOD? 14:06 "BUT UNTO THE SON HE SAITH, 'THY THRONE, O GOD.'" NOW WAIT A 14:11 SECOND - HEBREWS 1:8, "BUT UNTO THE SON" - GOD, THE FATHER - 14:15 "UNTO THE SON HE SAITH, 'THY THRONE, O GOD.'" TO THE SON, THE 14:18 FATHER SAYS, 'THY THRONE, O GOD IS FOREVER AND EVER.' SO WHAT 14:23 DOES THE FATHER CALL THE SON? 'O GOD'. "FOR EVER AND EVER: 14:28 A SCEPTRE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE SCEPTRE OF THY KINGDOM." 14:31 WHEN JESUS AROSE FROM THE DEAD - REMEMBER, THE FIRST WEEK HE 14:36 APPEARED THOMAS MISSED IT - HE SAID, 'I WON'T BELIEVE UNTIL I 14:40 SEE THE PRINT IN HIS HANDS AND THE SCAR IN HIS SIDE.' AND THEN 14:45 JESUS APPEARED THAT NEXT WEEK AND HE SAID, 'THOMAS, YOU 14:49 BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU'VE SEEN.' THOMAS FALLS DOWN AND YOU KNOW 14:52 WHAT HE SAYS? "MY LORD AND MY GOD." BY THE WAY, 14:56 THAT'S JOHN 20, VERSE 26 AND ON THROUGH VERSE 29. 15:00 AND DID JESUS SAY, 'NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, DON'T SAY THAT. 15:02 LET'S NOT GET CARRIED AWAY.' OR DID HE ACCEPT THAT? 15:06 'MY LORD AND MY GOD' HE CALLED JESUS BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. 15:10 NOW, QUICKLY, SOME DEFINITIONS: THE BIBLE SAYS WE SHOULD ONLY 15:15 WORSHIP GOD. IS THAT ONE OF THE COMMANDMENTS? 15:17 EVEN JESUS CITED THAT BACK TO SATAN. 15:19 MATTHEW 28 - SHOULD WE WORSHIP JESUS? 15:23 "AND AS THEY WENT TO TELL HIS DISCIPLES, BEHOLD, JESUS MET 15:27 THEM, SAYING 'ALL HAIL.'" - HAIL MEANS 'WORSHIP' - "AND THEY CAME 15:31 AND HELD HIM BY THE FEET, AND WORSHIPPED HIM." 15:35 AND HE RECEIVED THE WORSHIP. 15:36 BUT THE BIBLE SAYS ONLY WORSHIP GOD. 15:38 HEBREWS 1:6 - IT SAYS WE'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO WORSHIP GOD BUT ALL 15:43 THE ANGELS WORSHIP JESUS - THAT'S IN HEBREWS 1:6. 15:47 REVELATION 7:11 - YOU CAN REMEMBER THAT - THAT'S THE 15:52 CONVENIENT VERSE IN REVELATION - "AND ALL THE ANGELS STOOD ROUND 15:56 ABOUT THE THRONE, AND ABOUT THE ELDERS AND THE FOUR BEASTS, AND 15:58 FELL BEFORE THE THRONE ON THEIR FACES, AND WORSHIPPED GOD." 16:03 SO THE ANGELS WORSHIPPED GOD AND, YET, IT SAYS THE ANGELS 16:06 WORSHIPPED JESUS. WELL, IF JESUS IS GOD, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. 16:10 YOU CAN ONLY WORSHIP HIM - YOU CAN ONLY WORSHIP GOD - BUT IF 16:14 THEY WORSHIPPED JESUS HE MUST BE GOD. THE BIBLE SAYS GOD CREATED. 16:20 YOU'VE READ THE FIRST VERSE IN THE BIBLE BEFORE - 'IN THE 16:22 BEGINNING GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH.' 16:25 ALRIGHT, WHO IS THAT GOD THAT CREATED? 16:27 1 JOHN - NOT 1 JOHN, SORRY - JOHN CHAPTER 1, VERSE 1, "IN THE 16:32 BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, AND THE WORD 16:35 WAS GOD." - WHO IS THAT WORD? 16:38 THE WORD BECAME FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US - THAT'S JESUS, RIGHT? 16:41 - "THE SAME WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD. 16:43 ALL THINGS" - AND THIS IS VERY CLEAR IN THE GREEK - "ALL THINGS 16:47 WERE MADE BY HIM; AND WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANY THING MADE THAT 16:53 WAS MADE." NOTHING WAS MADE THAT WAS MADE, WITHOUT JESUS. 16:56 THAT MEANS THAT JESUS WAS NOT MADE. HE HAS ALWAYS EXISTED. 17:01 HE SAYS, 'I AM THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA.' THAT MEANS AS FAR AS YOU 17:04 CAN GO - THE BEGINNING AND THE END - AS FAR AS YOU CAN GO IN 17:07 THAT DIRECTION - AS FAR AS YOU CAN GO - 'ETERNITY TO ETERNITY 17:10 I AM GOD' - HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. 17:13 HEBREWS 1, VERSES 1 AND 2, "GOD, WHO AT VARIOUS TIMES AND IN 17:17 VARIOUS WAYS SPOKE IN TIME PAST TO THE FATHERS BY THE PROPHETS, 17:20 HAS IN THESE LAST DAYS SPOKEN TO US BY HIS SON, WHOM HE HAS 17:24 APPOINTED HEIR OF ALL THINGS, THROUGH WHOM ALSO HE MADE THE 17:27 WORLDS;" IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED. JESUS IS GOD. 17:33 EPHESIANS 3:9, "AND TO MAKE ALL SEE WHAT IS THE FELLOWSHIP OF 17:37 THE MYSTERY, WHICH FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE AGES HAS BEEN 17:41 HIDDEN IN GOD WHO CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST;" 17:47 JESUS IS GOD AND GOD MADE ALL THINGS. 17:49 THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE SAVIOR - THAT GOD IS 17:52 OUR SAVIOR. ISAIAH 43 - ONE SAVIOR - 43, 17:59 VERSE 11 - ISAIAH, "I, EVEN I, AM THE LORD, AND BESIDES ME 18:04 THERE IS NO SAVIOR." BUT WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY? 18:08 JUDE 25, "TO GOD OUR SAVIOR" - SO ONLY ONE SAVIOR - GOD IS OUR 18:14 SAVIOR IN JUDE 25 AND THERE ARE MANY VERSES IN THE NEW 18:18 TESTAMENT, INCLUDING THIS ONE, 1 JOHN 4:14, THAT SAY JESUS IS OUR 18:21 SAVIOR - "AND WE HAVE SEEN AND TESTIFY THAT THE FATHER HAS SENT 18:25 THE SON AS SAVIOR OF THE WORLD." NOW, AM I MAKING SENSE? 18:30 THERE'S ONLY ONE SAVIOR - GOD IS OUR SAVIOR - AND THE BIBLE SAYS 18:34 JESUS IS OUR SAVIOR. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN RECONCILE 18:37 THOSE IS TO SAY JESUS IS GOD. SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? 18:41 SO DID JESUS CLAIM EQUALITY WITH GOD? WOULDN'T THAT SETTLE IT? 18:48 NOTICE - JOHN 5:17 AND VERSE 18, "BUT JESUS ANSWERED THEM, 'MY 18:54 FATHER HAS BEEN WORKING UNTIL NOW, AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING.' 18:57 THEREFORE THE JEWS SOUGHT ALL THE MORE TO KILL HIM, BECAUSE HE 19:00 NOT ONLY BROKE THE SABBATH," - OR AT LEAST THEY ACCUSED HIM OF 19:02 THAT - "BUT ALSO SAID THAT GOD WAS HIS FATHER, MAKING HIMSELF 19:06 EQUAL WITH GOD." I MEAN, JESUS KNEW WHAT HE WAS 19:09 SAYING AND THE JEWS KNEW WHY THEY WANTED TO KILL HIM. 19:12 AGAIN, JOHN 10:30, "I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE." 19:18 SO THERE, AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE IDEA OF, CAN GOD BE ONE AND 19:22 STILL BE MORE THAN ONE PERSON? THEN THE JEWS TOOK UP STONES TO 19:26 STONE HIM AGAIN BECAUSE THEY KNEW WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT. 19:31 JOHN 14:9, "JESUS SAID TO HIM, 'HAVE I BEEN WITH YOU SO LONG, 19:34 AND YET YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ME, PHILIP? 19:36 HE WHO HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER, SO HOW CAN YOU SAY, 19:40 'SHOW US THE FATHER?' " IT SAYS, 'WE'RE THE SAME.' 19:44 NOW, WHAT EVERYONE GETS STUMPED ON - IF YOU TALK TO AN ATHEIST 19:48 ABOUT GOD OR AN AGNOSTIC AND THEY SAY, ALRIGHT, I CAN TELL 19:52 YOU WHERE THE UNIVERSE CAME FROM. 19:54 WHERE DID GOD COME FROM?' I'LL SAY, 'WELL, I DON'T KNOW 19:56 WHERE GOD CAME FROM BUT YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHERE THE UNIVERSE 19:59 CAME FROM BECAUSE WHAT YOU'LL DO IS YOU'LL SAY, 'OUR WORLD CAME 20:02 FROM OUR SOLAR SYSTEM WHEN IT FORMED AND THE SUN EXPLODED AND 20:05 SENT THESE PLANETS SPIRALING OUT INTO SPACE.' 'WHERE'D THE SUN 20:08 COME FROM?' 'WELL,' - THEY'LL SAY - 'THE SUN 20:11 CAME FROM, YOU KNOW, A SUPERNOVA OUT THERE WHEN THERE WAS AN 20:15 EXPLOSION AND ALL THESE SUNS WERE SENT WHIRLING OFF INTO 20:18 SPACE.' I'LL SAY, 'OKAY, WHERE'D THAT COME FROM?' 20:22 'WELL, THESE NEBULOUS GAS PARTICLES COLLIDED AND EXPLODED 20:25 AND THERE WAS A BIG BANG.' I'D SAY, 'ALRIGHT, WHERE'D THE STUFF 20:29 COME FROM - THAT COMBUSTIBLE MATERIAL THAT CAUSED THE BIG 20:32 BANG?' AND, EVENTUALLY, EVOLUTIONISTS, ATHIESTS, 20:37 AGNOSTICS WILL ALL SAY, 'WELL, THERE'S A MYSTERY. SOMETHING 20:41 ALWAYS EXISTED.' SO THEY'RE AT THE SAME PLACE YOU'RE AT. 20:45 THE DIFFERENCE IS OUR SOMETHING THAT ALWAYS EXISTED WAS 20:48 INTELLIGENT AND POWERFUL. THEIRS IS ALL A BIG ACCIDENT. 20:54 SO YOU CAN DESCRIBE EVERYTHING YOU SEE AROUND YOU AS THE RESULT 20:57 OF AN INTELLIGENCE WITH PURPOSE OR JUST A BIG ACCIDENT. 21:00 WE CAN ALL GO HOME NOW AND THERE IS NO PURPOSE TO LIFE. 21:03 SO I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE THERE IS A PURPOSE. 21:05 I SEE TOO MANY THINGS THAT SEEM TO REFLECT INTELLIGENCE. 21:08 SO JESUS HAS ALWAYS EXISTED. JOHN 17:5, "AND NOW, O FATHER, 21:13 GLORIFY ME TOGETHER WITH YOURSELF, WITH THE GLORY WHICH I 21:16 HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD WAS." SEE, JESUS LAID ASIDE 21:20 THE GLORY - THE PERFECT EQUALITY HE SHARED WITH THE FATHER 21:24 BEFORE THE WORLD WAS - HE CAME AND HE LIVED AMONG US. 21:27 HE WAS THEN RECEIVED BACK UP INTO GLORY. 21:30 HE IS, AGAIN, GLORIFIED AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER. 21:32 HE IS A HUNDRED PERCENT GOD. 21:35 SO, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THAT JESUS IS GOD - AND I DIDN'T 21:39 COVER ALL THE EVIDENCE. WHAT ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT? 21:43 NOW, MOST PEOPLE WILL SAY, 'WELL, IF JESUS IS GOD, WE DON'T 21:45 HAVE A PROBLEM BELIEVING THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD, BUT HE'S NOT 21:47 A PERSON, HE'S THE FORCE OF GOD THAT GOD USES' - I THINK THE 21:52 HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD. HE'S NOT JUST AN IMPERSONAL 21:55 VEHICLE, BECAUSE GOD SAYS SO. FIRST OF ALL, IS THE HOLY SPIRIT 21:58 GOD? ACTS 5:3 AND 4 - PETER SAID TO ANNANIAS - REMEMBER WHEN 22:04 ANNANIAS AND SAPPHIRA LIED? - "BUT PETER SAID, 22:08 'ANNANIAS, WHY HAS SATAN FILLED YOUR HEART TO 22:10 LIE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT...YOU'VE NOT LIED TO MEN BUT TO GOD." 22:15 WHEN YOU LIE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT YOU'VE LIED TO GOD. 22:17 GOD SAID, "MY SPIRIT SHALL NOT ALWAYS STRIVE WITH MAN." 22:21 GENESIS 6, VERSE 3 - GOD THE SPIRIT. AND I'VE TALKED TO YOU 22:26 ABOUT THE SEVEN SPIRITS AROUND THE THRONE OF GOD. 22:28 IT SAYS THAT THE SPIRIT LEADS US OR GUIDES US. 22:32 IT'S NOT AN IMPERSONAL FORCE THAT LEADS US OR GUIDES US. 22:36 I'VE GOT A GPS IN MY CAR - HAVE YOU - HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE A GPS 22:39 ON YOUR PHONE OR IN YOUR CAR? LET ME JUST SEE. BECAUSE THEY'RE 22:42 MAKING THEIR WAY AROUND. ALRIGHT, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE 22:44 RIDDEN WITH SOMEBODY THAT HAS A GPS? 22:46 I'VE SET A DESTINATION BEFORE, IN MY CAR, MAYBE I'LL GO VISIT 22:49 SOMEBODY - ON THE WAY I'LL SEE A STORE OR I'LL THINK OF SOMETHING 22:53 ELSE - AN ERRAND I NEED TO DO - AND I'LL SAY, 'OH, I DIDN'T KNOW 22:55 THAT STORE WAS HERE.' I'LL TURN OFF AND MY GPS SAYS, 'TURN, MAKE 23:01 CORRECTION, RE-ROUTING, TURN LEFT HERE.' AND I'M THINKING, 23:05 'OH, I'M SORRY, DID I OFFEND YOU?' 23:08 MINE'S A LADY VOICE, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST ALWAYS THINK OF MY 23:13 MOTHER, 'TURN HERE.' 'OKAY.' AND I DON'T WANT TO HURT HER 23:17 FEELINGS SO I'LL TURN. 'I WAS GOING TO GO TO THE STORE 23:20 BUT YOU TOLD ME TO TURN.' IS THAT WHAT I SAY? 23:23 I DON'T CARE WHAT SHE SAYS, IT'S A COMPUTER. IT'S JUST A FORCE, 23:27 RIGHT? I'M NOT GOING TO HURT IT'S FEELINGS. 23:29 I NEVER HEAR IT SAY TO ME, 'OH, COME ON, PLEASE TURN HERE. 23:34 YOU'RE GOING TO HURT MY FEELINGS IF YOU DON'T - I'M GOING TO WEEP 23:37 LITTLE TRANSISTOR TEARS OUT OF MY CIRCUITS IF YOU DON'T TURN 23:41 HERE.' DOES IT CARE? NO. BUT DOES THE HOLY SPIRIT CARE? 23:47 IF HE'S JUST A COMPUTER - IF HE'S JUST AN IMPERSONAL FORCE - 23:50 HE CANNOT BE GRIEVED. 23:53 BUT THE BIBLE SAYS YOU CAN GRIEVE THE SPIRIT. 23:55 MATTER OF FACT, JESUS SAYS - JOHN 16:13, "WHEN HE, THE SPIRIT 24:01 OF TRUTH, HAS COME, HE WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH." 24:05 YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT YEARS AGO, BEFORE GPS, WHEN THE 24:10 ARABS WERE GOING ACROSS SOME OF THESE VAST DESERTS IN SAUDI 24:14 ARABIA, SOMETIMES THEY'D HAVE SANDSTORMS - THEY COULDN'T EVEN 24:17 SEE THE SUN TO DETERMINE EAST FROM WEST. 24:19 IN MANY OF THOSE CARAVANS THEY KEPT A DOVE WITH THEM - A HOMING 24:23 PIGEON - THEY KEPT A THREAD TIED ON ITS LEG AND THEY WOULD 24:28 RELEASE IT AND IT WOULD ALWAYS FLY TOWARDS HOME. 24:31 IT WOULD MAKE A BEELINE TOWARDS HOME AND THEY WOULD HOLD IT IN 24:34 THEIR HAND TO FIND OUT WHICH WAY. 24:35 AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL LEAD US AND HE'LL GUIDE US. 24:38 YOU'LL FEEL, SOMETIMES, THAT TUGGING IN YOUR HEART. 24:40 HE'LL NEVER LEAD YOU CONTRARY TO THE WORD BECAUSE THE HOLY 24:43 SPIRIT IS ONE WITH JESUS WHO IS THE WORD. 24:46 THEY'LL NEVER CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER. 24:48 I'VE MET PEOPLE BEFORE THAT SAY, 'I KNOW THE BIBLE SAYS THIS, BUT 24:53 THE SPIRIT IS TELLING ME...' - AS THOUGH IT'S DIFFERENT OR 24:56 FRESH INFORMATION. THE SPIRIT OF GOD WILL NEVER 24:58 CONFLICT WITH THE WORD OF GOD BECAUSE IT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT 25:01 THAT INSPIRED MEN TO WRITE THE THINGS THAT THEY WROTE. 25:06 ISN'T THAT RIGHT? HOLY MEN WROTE AS THEY WERE 25:10 INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. IT SAYS THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDES 25:14 THEM. YOU KNOW THAT - I THINK THERE'S 25:17 15 TIMES JESUS REFERRED TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AS 'HE'. 25:21 HE COULD HAVE SAID 'IT'. WHY DID HE SAY 'HE'? 25:24 THAT WAS HIS CHOSEN WORD. 25:25 THE BIBLE TELLS US THE HOLY SPIRIT COMFORTS. 25:29 NOW IF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS JUST A POWER, WHO GETS COMFORT FROM, 25:33 YOU KNOW, HUGGING AN ELECTRIC POLE? 25:35 THAT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU COMFORT - IF HE'S JUST A POWER 25:37 WITH NO PERSONALITY. YOU FIND COMFORT FROM A PERSON. 25:43 THE BIBLE SAYS HE CONVICTS. NOW I REMEMBER THE GREATEST 25:47 CONVICTION I FELT WAS SOMETIMES FROM MY GRANDMOTHER'S LOOK. 25:51 AND SHE'D JUST LOOK AT ME - THAT COMES FROM A PERSON. 25:55 JOHN 16:8, "AND WHEN HE HAS COME," - NOTICE, 'HE' - "HE WILL 25:59 CONVICT THE WORLD OF SIN, AND OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND OF JUDGMENT." 26:03 AND IF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS JUST A FORCE, YOU NOTICE WHAT THE 26:06 GREATEST SIN IS? WHAT'S THE SIN THAT CANNOT BE PARDONED? 26:10 BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT. 26:13 MATTHEW 12:31 AND 32, "THEREFORE I SAY TO YOU, EVERY 26:16 SIN AND BLASPHEMY WILL BE FORGIVEN MEN." 26:20 - EVEN IF YOU SIN AGAINST THE SON IT SAID IT'LL BE FORGIVEN, 26:23 BUT BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT CANNOT BE FORGIVEN - IN 26:26 THIS LIFE OR IN THE NEXT. HE'S GRIEVED. 26:29 I MENTIONED THAT ALREADY. EPHESIANS 4:30, "DO NOT GRIEVE 26:32 THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD, BY WHOM YOU WERE SEALED." 26:36 HE'S A REAL FORCE. 26:39 SO THE BIBLE'S REALLY CLEAR THAT THERE IS A TRINITY. 26:42 THERE'S A FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT. 26:44 IT'S NOT ONE GOD THAT CHANGES MASKS. IT'S NOT ONE GOD THAT 26:50 DECIDED TO CREATE LESSER GODS IN JESUS AND THE SPIRIT. 26:54 THERE ARE THREE DIVINE EQUAL ETERNAL PERSONS THAT ARE 27:00 INVOLVED IN YOUR CREATION AND IN YOUR REDEMPTION. 27:05 IT'S NOT JUST THAT JESUS LOVES ME. JESUS SAID THE FATHER, 27:07 HIMSELF, LOVES YOU. GOD THE FATHER SO LOVED THE 27:10 WORLD HE SENT GOD THE SON. AND IT WAS A SACRIFICE FOR ALL 27:14 THREE TO SAVE YOU. AND THAT SHOULD JUST TELL US 27:18 THAT - SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE WORTH. 27:23 >>CAN'T GET ENOUGH AMAZING FACTS BIBLE STUDY? 27:25 YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK TO ENJOY MORE 27:28 TRUTH-FILLED PROGRAMMING, VISIT THE AMAZING FACTS MEDIA LIBRARY 27:32 AT 'AFTV.ORG'. 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