Participants: Pr. Doug Batchelor
Series Code: AFP
Program Code: AFP000135
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01:00 >>THIS PRESENTATION IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE FRIENDS OF THE
01:03 AMAZING FACTS MINISTRY. 01:11 >>DO THE DEAD COMMUNICATE WITH THE LIVING ACCORDING 01:13 TO THE BIBLE? IF SOMEONE COMES TO YOU SAYING, 01:15 'I'VE GOT A MESSAGE FROM HEAVEN. I'VE GOT A MESSAGE FROM THE 01:18 OTHER SIDE.' AS A CHRISTIAN YOU OUGHT TO RUN THE OTHER 01:20 DIRECTION. IT'S CALLED 'SPIRITISM'. 01:25 >>FOR OVER 40 YEARS AMAZING FACTS HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO 01:29 SHARING GOD'S WORD THROUGH MEDIA. 01:31 THIS PROGRAM FEATURES HIGHLIGHTS FROM SOME OF OUR BEST TELEVISION 01:35 BROADCASTS. WE INVITE YOU TO SIT BACK AND 01:37 ENJOY THIS EDITION OF AMAZING FACTS PRESENTS. 01:45 >>YOU KNOW, FRIENDS, IN THE LAST DAYS, JESUS IS VERY CLEAR - IN 01:49 MATTHEW CHAPTER 24, VERSE 24 HE WARNS US THAT THE DECEPTIONS ARE 01:55 GOING TO BE SO COMPELLING THAT IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, EVEN THE 01:58 VERY ELECT WOULD BE DECEIVED. THAT MEANS EVEN PROFESSED 02:01 CHRISTIANS WOULD BE DECEIVED. AND SO THINGS ARE NOT ALWAYS 02:06 WHAT THEY APPEAR TO BE. THE DEVIL IS A MASTER DECEIVER. 02:10 NOW THE BIBLE'S VERY CLEAR THAT NECROMANCY - THAT'S THE PRACTICE 02:15 OR ATTEMPTING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE DEAD - IS SOMETHING 02:17 THAT IS FORBIDDEN. INTERESTING - OH, SOMEONE DID A 02:21 SURVEY BACK IN 1977 AND ABOUT 35% OF AMERICAN CHRISTIANS 02:28 BELIEVED THAT YOU COULD COMMUNICATE WITH THE DEAD. 02:30 ACTUALLY, IT WAS JUST ANY AMERICANS. 02:32 THEN, BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO 1983 THERE WAS ANOTHER STUDY 02:35 THAT WAS DONE AND IT HAD GONE UP ANOTHER 15% AND ABOUT 42% OF 02:41 AMERICANS BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE DEAD. 02:45 WHAT'S REALLY SAD NOW IS, WHILE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FORBIDDEN IN 02:49 SCRIPTURE FOR CHRISTIANS TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE DEAD, 02:52 NOW THERE'S A NEW FORM OF NECROMANCY THAT IS BEING 02:55 BAPTIZED AND EMBRACED BY CHRISTIANS. YOU CAN SEE 03:00 THAT PEOPLE ARE SORT OF PREOCCUPIED WITH THE PARANORMAL. 03:03 JUST TO GIVE YOU A FEW EXAMPLES: DR. EBEN ALEXANDER, A 03:08 NEUROSURGEON WHO, IRONICALLY, NEVER REALLY BELIEVED IN 03:10 NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES UNTIL HE FELL INTO A COMA, AND THEN HE 03:14 DETAILS, IN HIS BOOK 'PROOF OF HEAVEN: A DOCTOR'S EXPERIENCE 03:19 WITH THE AFTERLIFE' ABOUT HIS BEING TAKEN OFF TO HEAVEN AND 03:23 HAVING A CHANGE OF HEART AND SEEING THINGS AND PEOPLE THERE. 03:27 AND THERE'S SOMEONE NAMED DON PIPER. 03:29 HE WROTE A BOOK - DIED IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT - HEAD ON - 03:33 STRUCK BY AN 18-WHEELER - A MINISTER, I SHOULD ADD. 03:38 A PASTOR STOPPED AND PRAYED OVER HIS BODY WHEN HE HAD BEEN 03:41 DECLARED DEAD AND HE SAYS FOR 90 MINUTES HE WAS IN HEAVEN AND HE 03:45 WROTE A BEST-SELLING - NEW YORK TIMES BEST-SELLING BOOK ON THAT 03:48 AND TALKED ABOUT SEEING RELATIVES UP THERE AND TALKING 03:51 WITH THEM. AND THEN HE WENT ON AND ENDORSED THIS LATEST BOOK 03:56 THAT'S BECOME VERY POPULAR, 'HEAVEN IS FOR REAL'. 03:59 IT'S A 2010 NEW YORK TIMES BEST-SELLING BOOK ABOUT A LITTLE 04:03 BOY'S ASTOUNDING STORY OF HIS TRIP TO HEAVEN AND BACK - 04:08 WRITTEN BY, AGAIN, A PASTOR - TODD BURPO - ABOUT HIS 04:11 4-YEAR-OLD SON COLTON, WHO EXPERIENCED ONE OF THESE 04:14 NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES DURING EMERGENCY SURGERY. 04:18 HE OSTENSIBLY DIED AND HE WAS TAKEN OFF INTO HEAVEN AND HE SAW 04:23 GRANDPA AND GRANDMA AND HE SAW A BABY SISTER THAT WAS MISCARRIED 04:27 BY HIS MOTHER AND HE TALKED TO JESUS AND HE DESCRIBED WHAT 04:31 HEAVEN WAS LIKE. OF COURSE, HIS FATHER WAS A MINISTER 04:35 AND HE GREW UP WITH THIS KNOWLEDGE OF CHRISTIAN THINGS. 04:39 AND NOW THEY'RE MAKING A MOVIE ABOUT IT AND EVERYBODY'S 04:42 PROBABLY GOING TO THINK THIS IS JUST WONDERFUL. 04:45 I DON'T DOUBT THE SINCERITY OF THESE PEOPLE. 04:47 I DON'T DOUBT THAT THEY HAD SOME KIND OF EXPERIENCE. 04:50 BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO SAY WE'RE GOING 04:53 TO BASE TRUTH ON WHAT SOMEBODY EXPERIENCES WHEN THEY SUPPOSEDLY 04:58 DIE ON AN OPERATING TABLE OR THEY SLIP INTO A COMA BECAUSE 05:02 THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT CAN AFFECT THAT. 05:04 FIRST WE WANT TO BASE IT ON 'WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT 05:08 COMMUNICATING WITH THE DEAD?' ISAIAH 8:19, "AND WHEN THEY SAY 05:13 TO YOU, 'SEEK THOSE WHO ARE MEDIUMS AND WIZARDS, WHO WHISPER 05:16 AND MUTTER,' SHOULD NOT A PEOPLE SEEK THEIR GOD? 05:19 SHOULD THEY SEEK THE DEAD ON BEHALF OF THE LIVING? 05:22 TO THE LAW AND THE TESTIMONY! IF THEY DO NOT SPEAK ACCORDING 05:25 TO THIS WORD, IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS NOT LIGHT IN THEM." 05:30 AND SO IF A PERSON SAYS, 'YOU KNOW, I DIED ON THE OPERATING 05:34 TABLE AND I WAS TALKING TO GRANDMA IN HEAVEN AND SHE GAVE 05:36 ME A MESSAGE.' I DON'T DOUBT A PERSON CAN HAVE A DREAM, BUT 05:41 THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A MESSAGE FROM HEAVEN. 05:43 DREAMS CAN COME FROM GOD. DREAMS CAN COME FROM THE DEVIL. 05:47 AND SO WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THIS SORT OF 05:49 THING. LEVITICUS 19:31, "GIVE NO REGARD 05:53 TO MEDIUMS AND FAMILIAR SPIRITS; DO NOT SEEK AFTER THEM, TO BE 05:58 DEFILED BY THEM: I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD." 06:01 MEDIUMS WOULD SAY, 'WE'VE GOT A MESSAGE FROM THE DEAD.' SO THIS 06:04 IS SORT OF A NEW BAPTIZED - OR SANCTIFIED - VERSION OF 06:08 NECROMANCY, WHEN CHRISTIANS SAY, 'I HAD AN EXPERIENCE. 06:12 I WENT TO HEAVEN AND I HAVE A MESSAGE FROM THE DEAD.' YOU 06:15 KNOW, THERE'S NO EXAMPLE ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE OF SOMEONE 06:18 GETTING A MESSAGE - A CHRISTIAN - A BELIEVER - OF GETTING A 06:22 MESSAGE FROM SOMEBODY WHO HAD DIED. 06:24 IT ONLY HAPPENS WITH KING SAUL WHEN HE CONSULTS A WITCH. 06:28 THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO DIED THAT COMMUNICATED WITH SOMEONE LIVING 06:31 IS WHEN MOSES AND ELIJAH APPEARED TO JESUS ON THE MOUNT 06:35 OF TRANSFIGURATION. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY SAID. 06:38 IT SAYS THEY TALKED TO HIM ABOUT HIS SACRIFICE BUT THEY DIDN'T 06:43 COMMUNICATE WITH PETER, JAMES AND JOHN. 06:45 JESUS, WHO WAS GLORIFIED, HE ENTERED INTO THIS STATE AND THEY 06:49 TALKED TO HIM. SO THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE ARE 06:51 GETTING MESSAGES FROM THOSE THAT ARE DEAD - AND WE KNOW WHY 06:55 ELIJAH WAS THERE - HE DIDN'T DIE. 06:57 HE WENT TO HEAVEN IN A FIERY CHARIOT. AND THE BOOK OF JUDE 06:59 SAYS MOSES WAS RESURRECTED BY JESUS AFTER HE DIED. 07:04 DEUTERONOMY 18:10-12, "THERE SHALL NOT BE FOUND AMONG YOU 07:08 ANYONE WHO MAKES HIS SON OR HIS DAUGHTER PASS THROUGH THE FIRE, 07:12 OR ONE WHO PRACTICES WITCHCRAFT, OR A SOOTHSAYER, OR ONE WHO 07:16 INTERPRETS OMENS, OR A SORCERER, OR ONE WHO CONJURES SPELLS, OR A 07:20 MEDIUM," - THAT'S NECROMANCY - "OR A SPIRITIST," - SOMEONE WHO 07:25 CONSULTS WITH THE SPIRITS OF THE DEAD - 07:28 "OR ONE WHO CALLS UP THE DEAD. FOR ALL WHO DO THESE THINGS ARE 07:32 AN ABOMINATION TO THE LORD, AND BECAUSE OF THESE ABOMINATIONS 07:35 THE LORD YOUR GOD DRIVES THEM OUT FROM BEFORE YOU." 07:39 SO, HERE'S A QUESTION: DO THE DEAD COMMUNICATE WITH THE 07:42 LIVING, ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE? I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A FEW VERSES: 07:46 JOB 14:21, SPEAKING OF A MAN WHO DIES IT SAYS, "HIS SONS COME TO 07:51 HONOR AND HE DOES NOT KNOW IT." SO A MAN DIES - DOES HE GO TO 07:56 HEAVEN AND LOOK DOWN AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON EARTH? 07:58 HE DOESN'T KNOW IF HIS SONS COME TO HONOR - "THEY ARE BROUGHT LOW 08:02 AND HE DOES NOT PERCEIVE IT." - THINK ABOUT IT ANYWAY. 08:05 WOULD YOUR RELATIVES, IF THEY WENT TO HEAVEN AND THEY COULD 08:08 LOOK DOWN AND SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE ON EARTH - A 08:11 MOTHER HAD A BUNCH OF KIDS AND GRAND-KIDS AND SEE ALL THE 08:14 TRIALS AND THE TROUBLE AND THE TEMPTATION AND THE FAILURES AND 08:17 THE PAIN - WOULD THEY BE ENJOYING HEAVEN LOOKING DOWN AT 08:20 ALL OF THAT HAPPENING? NO. 08:24 THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 08:26 JESUS SAID THAT NO ONE HAS ASCENDED - NOW THIS IS THE FINAL 08:29 WORD FOR ME - NOT THAT I'M DONE - BUT THIS IS, I THINK, 08:32 PRETTY IMPORTANT. "NO ONE HAS ASCENDED TO HEAVEN 08:36 BUT HE WHO CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN." 08:38 NOBODY CAME - WENT UP TO HEAVEN AND CAME BACK DOWN WITH A 08:40 MESSAGE EXCEPT JESUS. JESUS IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAME 08:43 FROM THE FATHER WITH A MESSAGE FOR EARTH. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING 08:47 WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THESE NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES? 08:52 STUDIES SUGGEST THAT BETWEEN 10% TO 25% OF HEART ATTACK 08:55 SURVIVORS, THEY REPORT HAVING NDES - OR 'NEAR-DEATH 08:59 EXPERIENCES' - SO IT'S VERY COMMON. 09:02 BRITISH RESEARCHER, SUSAN BLACKMORE, AUTHOR OF 'DYING TO 09:05 LIVE: NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES' NOTES THAT MANY OF THESE NDES 09:08 SUCH AS EUPHORIA AND THE FEELING OF MOVING TOWARDS THE LIGHT ARE, 09:12 IN FACT, TYPICAL SYMPTOMS OF OXYGEN DEPRIVATION. 09:18 THIS HAPPENS FREQUENTLY TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE THAT PROBLEM. 09:22 IN ONE EXPERIMENT, DR. LADISLAS MEDUNA ADMINISTERED 30% CARBON 09:26 DIOXIDE AND 70% OXYGEN TO A SUBJECT. 09:29 AFTERWARD, THE SUBJECT STATED, 'I FELT LIKE I WAS LOOKING DOWN 09:33 AT MYSELF AS THOUGH I WAS OUT THERE IN SPACE. 09:36 I FELT SORT OF SEPARATED.' IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE INDUCED. 09:40 AND I'M SURE IT FEELS VERY REAL TO THEM, BUT WE DON'T BASE OUR 09:44 THEOLOGY ON THAT. SOMEONE ELSE DID SOME STUDIES - 09:48 'ELECTRICAL STIMULATION TO THE RIGHT TEMPORAL LOBE OF THE BRAIN 09:51 HAS BEEN SHOWN TO RELIABLY INDUCE THE SAME DISASSOCIATION 09:56 FOUND IN NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES AND OBES - OR 'OUT OF BODY 10:00 EXPERIENCES'. OTHER ELEMENTS OF NEAR-DEATH 10:02 EXPERIENCES CAN BE REPRODUCED WITH ANESTHETICS. 10:06 AND SO THAT'S WHY SUCH A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT 10:09 DIE ON THE OPERATING TABLE ARE SAYING, 'I HAD A DREAM.' HERE'S 10:12 WHAT YOU NEED TO PAY CAREFUL ATTENTION TO: THESE NEAR-DEATH 10:16 EXPERIENCES THAT I JUST TALKED TO YOU ABOUT - DON PIPER AND 10:19 TODD BURPO AND COLTON AND THE DOCTOR - THEY ALL LIVE IN 10:24 AMERICA IN A CONTEXT OF CHRISTIANITY AND SO THEY HAVE 10:26 THESE NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES IN THE CONTEXT OF THE RELIGION 10:30 THEY'VE GROWN UP IN. GUESS WHO THEY SEE IN INDIA WHEN 10:34 THEY HAVE A NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE. KRISHNA. 10:37 AND IF YOU GO TO A BUDDHIST COUNTRY AND THEY HAVE A 10:39 NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE, WHO DO THEY SEE? BUDDHA. 10:43 SO ARE WE GOING TO BASE OUR THEOLOGY ON PEOPLE'S NEAR-DEATH 10:46 EXPERIENCES FROM WHATEVER COUNTRY THEY'RE IN? 10:49 COULD IT BE THE DEVIL CAN EXPLOIT THESE EXPERIENCES? 10:53 FOLLOW ME. ARE THE DEAD CONSCIOUS, 10:56 BIBLICALLY? DO THEY KNOW ANYTHING? 10:58 PSALM 115, VERSE 17 - NOW, LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR - 11:02 I DO BELIEVE IN HEAVEN. I WANT TO GO THERE SOMEDAY. 11:05 I THINK IT'S REAL. I DON'T DENY THAT. 11:08 BUT I DON'T BELIEVE PEOPLE GO RIGHT FROM EARTH TO HEAVEN WHEN 11:11 THEY DIE - BEFORE THE RESURRECTION AND BEFORE THE 11:13 JUDGMENT. THE BIBLE'S VERY CLEAR ABOUT 11:15 WHEN THIS ALL TAKES PLACE AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. 11:18 YES, ENOCH'S IN HEAVEN, ELIJAH'S IN HEAVEN, MOSES IS IN HEAVEN. 11:21 THERE ARE SOME WHO WENT TO HEAVEN THAT JESUS ROSE AT THE 11:24 END OF MATTHEW 27 IN A SPECIAL RESURRECTION, BUT THE VAST 11:28 MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE STILL SLEEPING IN THEIR GRAVES. 11:31 'OH, BUT PASTOR DOUG, THE BIBLE SAYS, 'TO BE ABSENT FROM THE 11:34 BODY IS TO BE PRESENT WITH THE LORD.'' YES, THAT'S TRUE FOR 11:37 THEM. WHEN A PERSON DIES IN A SAVED CONDITION, THEIR NEXT 11:40 CONSCIOUS THOUGHT IS THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD. 11:43 THEY HAVE NO CONSCIOUSNESS OF TIME, BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE YET. 11:46 THAT'S WHY YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT, BECAUSE IF SOMEONE COMES 11:49 TO YOU SAYING, 'I'VE GOT A MESSAGE FROM HEAVEN. 11:51 I'VE GOT A MESSAGE FROM THE OTHER SIDE.' AS A CHRISTIAN, YOU 11:53 OUGHT TO RUN THE OTHER DIRECTION. 11:55 IT'S CALLED 'SPIRITISM'. LET ME GIVE YOU THOSE VERSES: 11:58 PSALM 115:17, "THE DEAD PRAISE NOT THE LORD." 12:02 FIRST THING I'D DO IF I DIED AND WENT RIGHT TO HEAVEN IS PRAISE 12:04 THE LORD. BUT DAVID SAID THEY DO NOT 12:06 PRAISE THE LORD. PETER SAID, IN ACTS CHAPTER 2, 12:09 'DAVID IS DEAD AND BURIED AND NOT ASCENDED TO HEAVEN.' IT 12:12 CAN'T BE ANY MORE CLEAR BECAUSE, YOU'D THINK DAVID WOULD MAKE IT. 12:16 PSALM 6:5, "FOR IN DEATH THERE IS NO REMEMBRANCE OF THEE." 12:20 PSALM 146, VERSE 2-4, "WHILE I LIVE I WILL PRAISE THE LORD: I 12:25 WILL SING PRAISES UNTO MY GOD WHILE I HAVE ANY BEING." 12:27 - WHILE I'M ALIVE - "PUT NOT YOUR TRUST IN PRINCES, NOR IN 12:30 THE SON OF MAN, IN WHOM THERE IS NO HELP. 12:32 HIS BREATH GOETH FORTH, HE RETURNETH TO HIS EARTH; IN THAT 12:36 VERY DAY HIS THOUGHTS PERISH." HE'S NOT UP WALKING AROUND 12:40 HEAVEN AND SENDING MESSAGES TO YOU HERE ON EARTH. 12:43 'OH, BUT PASTOR DOUG, YOU KNOW, I SENSE MY HUSBAND'S PRESENCE. 12:47 WE WERE MARRIED 50 YEARS AND HE DIED AND I - 12:50 I JUST HEARD HIM SPEAKING TO ME. I FELT, AT THE FUNERAL, HE WAS 12:53 LOOKING DOWN ON ME.' IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THESE 12:57 EXPERIENCES. YOU'RE MARRIED TO ANYBODY THAT 12:59 LONG - MY BROTHER DIED AND FOR 32 YEARS HE WAS ALWAYS THERE IN 13:07 MY LIFE. I HAD AUTO DIAL - I COULD ALWAYS 13:09 TALK TO MY BROTHER. I SENSED HIS PRESENCE. 13:11 AND WHEN HE DIED, SOMETIMES I FELT HE WAS NEAR. 13:15 IT'S JUST BECAUSE I HAD SO MANY MEMORIES IN MY MIND OF MY 13:19 BROTHER - THAT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL - BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN 13:22 THAT MY BROTHER'S DISEMBODIED SPIRIT WAS FLOATING AROUND MY 13:24 HOUSE OR THAT HE'S SPEAKING TO ME FROM HEAVEN. 13:27 I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS. AND SO, I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE 13:30 AWAY FROM PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES, BUT YOU DON'T BASE TRUTH UPON 13:33 THAT. ISAIAH 38:18, "...DEATH CAN-NOT CELEBRATE THEE." 13:39 ECCLESIASTES 9, VERSES 5 AND 6, "FOR THE LIVING KNOW THAT THEY 13:42 WILL DIE; BUT THE DEAD" - DO YOU KNOW THE REST OF THAT VERSE? 13:46 THEY - "KNOW NOTHING." HOW MUCH DO THEY KNOW? 13:49 THE DEAD DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. SO IF YOU SAY, 'I WAS IN HEAVEN 13:51 AND I SAW GRANDMA' OR 'GRANDPA' OR 'MY LITTLE SISTER' OR 13:53 SOMETHING, THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. 13:55 THEY'RE SLEEPING. SO WHO SPOKE TO YOU? 13:59 WELL MAYBE THAT LITTLE BOY HAD A DREAM. 14:02 'WELL, HE KNEW THINGS HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE KNOWN. 14:06 DID THE DEVIL KNOW THOSE THINGS? DID THE DEVIL KNOW WHAT HIS 14:08 GRANDPA LOOKED LIKE? DID THE DEVIL KNOW ABOUT THE 14:10 LITTLE SISTER? DOES THE - SURE THE DEVIL KNOWS. 14:14 THE DEVIL CAN GIVE INFORMATION TO HIS PROPHETS. 14:18 HE CAN SPEAK THROUGH DREAMS. AND EVEN THOSE WHO BECOME 14:21 MEDIUMS - YOU KNOW WHAT A MEDIUM IS? 14:24 THE PERSON WHO IS IN THE MIDDLE - THEY ARE THE GO-BETWEEN 14:27 BETWEEN THE REAL WORLD AND THE SPIRIT WORLD. 14:29 AND EVEN IF IT'S A CUTE LITTLE BOY WHO SAYS, 'I'VE GOT A 14:33 MESSAGE FROM BEYOND' - HE IS THE MEDIUM FOR THE MESSAGE. 14:37 AND THE BIBLE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD NOT GET INFORMATION ABOUT 14:40 DEATH OR HEAVEN OR HELL FROM MEDIUMS. 14:44 WE GET IT FROM THE WORD, AMEN? 'THE LIVING KNOW THEY'LL DIE. 14:47 THE DEAD DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.' "ALSO THEIR LOVE, THEIR HATRED, 14:52 AND THEIR ENVY HAVE NOW PERISHED; NEVERMORE WILL THEY 14:55 HAVE A SHARE IN ANYTHING THAT IS DONE UNDER THE SUN." 14:58 AND YOU CAN GO TO - YOU CAN READ IN VERSE 10 - IT SAYS IN VERSE 15:03 10, "WHATEVER YOUR HAND FINDS TO DO, DO IT WITH YOUR MIGHT; FOR 15:07 THERE IS NO WORK OR DEVICE OR KNOWLEDGE OR WISDOM IN THE GRAVE 15:11 WHERE YOU ARE GOING." SO WHERE DO THE DEAD GO? 15:15 JOB 17:3 - WHEN THEY DIE - "IF I WAIT, THE GRAVE IS MINE HOUSE." 15:20 WHERE DO THE DEAD WAIT? IN THE GRAVE. 15:23 YOU CAN READ JOB 21:32, "YET SHALL HE BE BROUGHT TO THE 15:26 GRAVE, AND SHALL REMAIN IN THE TOMB." 15:29 WHERE DO THEY STAY UNTIL THE RESURRECTION? IN THE TOMB. 15:32 THEY'RE NOT ROAMING AROUND LIKE EBENEZER SCROOGE GOING INTO THE 15:37 PAST AND THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE. 15:39 2 PETER 2:9, "THEN THE LORD KNOWS HOW TO DELIVER THE GODLY 15:42 OUT OF TEMPTATIONS AND TO RESERVE THE UNJUST UNDER 15:46 PUNISHMENT FOR THE DAY OF JUDGMENT," - THEY DON'T GET 15:49 PUNISHED. THEY DON'T GET REWARDED - 15:51 UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDGMENT. IT'D BE KIND OF STRANGE TO JUDGE 15:54 THEM AND SAY - PULL THEM OUT OF HEAVEN TO JUDGE THEM. 15:57 BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT STORY IN THE BIBLE WHERE KING SAUL, 16:02 HE SAW THIS APPARITION OF SAMUEL? 16:05 YOU'LL FIND THAT IN THE BIBLE IN 1 SAMUEL 28, VERSES 3-20. 16:11 WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ THE WHOLE THING, BUT JUST VERY 16:14 QUICKLY - IT TELLS US THAT KING SAUL WAS DREADFULLY AFRAID 16:19 BECAUSE THE PHILISTINES HAD AMASSED AN INCREDIBLY LARGE ARMY 16:23 AGAINST ISRAEL AND HE TRIED TO TALK TO THE PROPHETS AND THERE 16:27 WAS NO MESSAGE FROM THE PROPHETS AND THE PRIESTS HAD NO MESSAGE 16:30 FROM GOD AND HE DID EVERYTHING HE COULD TO GET SOME GUIDANCE 16:33 BUT SAUL HAD PRETTY MUCH GRIEVED AWAY THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE OF 16:37 HIS REBELLION AND PRIDE AGAINST GOD. 16:39 SO IN DESPERATION TO GET SOME GUIDANCE HE SAID, 'FIND A WITCH 16:44 FOR ME - A MEDIUM. IF I COULD ONLY HEAR FROM SAMUEL 16:47 THE PROPHET I'D FEEL A LOT BETTER.' SAMUEL WAS DEAD. 16:52 AND SO THEY GOT OUT THEIR LITTLE BLACK BOOK AND THEY FOUND A 16:56 WITCH THAT WAS STILL ALIVE IN A PLACE CALLED ENDOR - ENDOR - THE 17:00 NAME SOUND OMINOUS IN ITSELF. AND SO HE WENT TO THIS WITCH AND 17:06 SHE WENT THROUGH HER INCANTATIONS AND SHE CONJURED UP 17:08 THIS APPARITION THAT CLAIMED TO BE THE PROPHET SAMUEL. 17:13 AND THIS GHOST OR WHATEVER IT WAS SAID, 17:16 'WHY HAVE YOU DISQUIETED ME AND BROUGHT ME UP?' - 17:19 SAMUEL THE PROPHET COMING UP? 17:21 DOES THE DEVIL HAVE THE POWER TO RESURRECT? 17:24 SHE WENT THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS AT A MODERN SÉANCE AND, 17:28 YES, SAMUEL GAVE A MESSAGE - THIS GHOST THAT CLAIMED TO BE 17:31 SAMUEL - IT WAS NOT SAMUEL - A TOTALLY DISCOURAGING, HOPELESS 17:35 MESSAGE THAT FORETOLD THAT SAUL AND HIS SONS WOULD BE DEAD THE 17:38 NEXT DAY. YOU KNOW, EVEN WEATHERMEN GET IT 17:42 RIGHT SOMETIMES. THE DEVIL KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO 17:44 HAPPEN IN THAT BATTLE, ESPECIALLY IF HE COULD 17:45 DISCOURAGE SAUL. SO SOME PEOPLE WONDER IF 'WELL, 17:48 MAYBE THIS WAS REALLY SAMUEL.' NO, IT WASN'T. 17:51 MATTER OF FACT, YOU CAN READ - THE BIBLE TELLS US ONE OF THE 17:54 REASONS THAT SAUL GOT IN SO MUCH TROUBLE AND WAS CURSED: 1 18:00 CHRONICLES 10:13, "SO SAUL DIED FOR HIS UNFAITHFULNESS WHICH HE 18:05 HAD COMMITTED AGAINST THE LORD, BECAUSE HE DID NOT KEEP THE WORD 18:08 OF THE LORD, AND ALSO BECAUSE HE CONSULTED A MEDIUM" - THIS WITCH 18:12 OF ENDOR - "FOR GUIDANCE." SHOULD WE GET OUR GUIDANCE FROM 18:16 A MEDIUM? SOMEONE WHO SAID, 'I'VE PASSED TO THE OTHER SIDE 18:19 AND I'VE COME BACK. I'VE GOT A MESSAGE FOR YOU.' IN 18:22 THE LAST DAYS THE DECEPTION WOULD BE SO PERSUASIVE THAT IF 18:26 IT WERE POSSIBLE, EVEN THE VERY ELECT WOULD BE DECEIVED. 18:29 IT REALLY TROUBLES ME WHEN I HEAR CHRISTIANS JUST FALLING ALL 18:32 OVER THEMSELVES TO READ THESE BOOKS AND GET THESE MESSAGES 18:35 FROM PEOPLE WHO SUPPOSEDLY HAVE BEEN TO HEAVEN OR HELL - SOMEONE 18:38 ELSE WROTE A BOOK ABOUT 23 MINUTES IN HELL - AND THESE 18:41 CHRISTIANS GOBBLE IT UP AND THE INFORMATION IN THERE 18:43 HAS GOD PORTRAYED AS A TYRANT. AND THE DEVIL USES THESE THINGS 18:48 TO TWIST THE TRUTH ABOUT GOD. HOW DOES JESUS, IN THE BIBLE, 18:53 REFER TO DEATH? JOHN 11:11 - IT TELLS US, "OUR 18:59 FRIEND LAZARUS SLEEPS, BUT I GO THAT I MAY WAKE HIM UP." 19:03 HIS DISCIPLES SAID, 'LORD, IF HE'S SLEEPING HE'LL GET WELL, 19:06 BUT JESUS SPOKE OF HIS DEATH. 19:08 THEY THOUGHT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT TAKING REST AND SLEEP AND 19:12 JESUS SAID TO THEM PLAINLY, 'LAZARUS IS DEAD.' SO WHAT DID 19:16 JESUS CALL DEATH? IT'S A DREAMLESS SLEEP. 19:20 YOU KNOW, THE WORD 'SLEEP' IS USED - OR 'REST' - TO DESCRIBE 19:25 DEATH OVER 30 TIMES IN THE BIBLE. 19:28 SO IT'S OKAY FOR US TO USE THAT TERM. 19:30 YOU CAN GO THROUGH A LOT OF GRAVEYARDS - YOU CAN TELL 19:32 THERE'S CONFUSION EVEN IN A CHURCH CEMETERY. 19:35 ONE GRAVE WILL SAY 'OUR DEARLY BELOVED MOTHER IS NOW RESTING IN 19:40 JESUS WAITING FOR THE RESURRECTION TRUMP'. 19:42 YOU'LL SEE GRAVES LIKE THAT IN A BAPTIST OR A METHODIST 19:44 GRAVEYARD. THEN YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER ONE THAT 19:46 SAYS, 'OUR DEARLY BELOVED MOTHER IS NOW SINGING WITH THE ANGELS 19:49 ON THE GOLDEN STREETS.' I MEAN, THERE'S GREAT CONFUSION ON THIS. 19:53 BUT THE BIBLE'S PRETTY CLEAR - THEY'RE NOT THERE YET. 19:55 AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOW FOR SURE, IF ANYBODY IN THE BIBLE 19:58 SHOULD HAVE HAD A NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE - IF ANYBODY SHOULD 20:02 HAVE HAD AN EXPERIENCE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LAZARUS. 20:06 HE WAS DEAD FOR FOUR DAYS. 20:09 YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT EVERY NEWS AGENCY IN THE WORLD WOULD 20:11 HAVE COME TO HIM AND SHOVED THEIR CAMERAS IN HIS FACE AND 20:13 SAID, 'SO, WHAT DID YOU SEE?' IT WASN'T JUST 23 MINUTES IN 20:17 HELL OR 90 MINUTES IN HEAVEN, HE HAD FOUR DAYS. 20:21 YOU KNOW WHAT HE COMMENTED ON? NOTHING. 20:25 WOULDN'T THE BIBLE HAVE SAID SOMETHING? 20:27 HE SAID NOTHING. WHY? BECAUSE HE EXPERIENCED NOTHING. WHY? 20:30 BECAUSE HE WAS DEAD AND HE WAS ASLEEP. 20:33 IF YOU'RE ALMOST DEAD YOU MIGHT HAVE A NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE 20:36 BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT COMPLETELY DEAD. 20:38 NO ONE - SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE THEIR HEART STOP AND EVEN TAKE 20:41 THEIR HEART OUT AND A NEW HEART PUT IN AND THEY'LL HAVE A 20:44 NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE. NO ONE HAS THEIR BRAIN REMOVED 20:46 AND HAS THAT EXPERIENCE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY 20:50 EXPERIENCE IN THE BRAIN. MATTER OF FACT, THERE ARE 20:52 APPROXIMATELY TWELVE RESURRECTIONS IN THE BIBLE. 20:56 AND OF THOSE TWELVE RESURRECTIONS, HOW MANY OF THEM 20:58 COMMENTED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE IN DEATH? ZERO. 21:03 SO HOW MUCH SHOULD CHRISTIANS SPECULATE ABOUT TRUTH COMING 21:06 FROM A NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE OR A DREAM OR A VISION OR WHEN 21:11 YOU'RE IN A COMA? JOHN 5:28-29, JESUS SAID, "DO 21:15 NOT MARVEL AT THIS; FOR THE HOUR IS COMING IN WHICH ALL WHO ARE 21:18 IN THE GRAVES WILL HEAR HIS VOICE." - 21:20 THE HOUR IS COMING - IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET - "AND COME FORTH - 21:23 THOSE WHO HAVE DONE GOOD, TO THE RESURRECTION OF LIFE, AND THOSE 21:26 WHO HAVE DONE EVIL, TO THE RESURRECTION OF CONDEMNATION." 21:29 AND JESUS SAID, 'I WILL RAISE HIM UP' - WHEN? - 21:31 'THE LAST DAY.' THAT RESURRECTION HASN'T HAPPENED 21:34 YET. WHEN DOES IT HAPPEN? 1 THESSALONIANS 4:13, "BUT I DO 21:40 NOT WANT YOU TO BE IGNORANT, BRETHREN, CONCERNING THOSE WHO 21:42 HAVE FALLEN ASLEEP" - WHAT'S PAUL TALKING ABOUT? 21:45 THOSE WHO ARE DEAD - "LEST YOU SORROW AS OTHERS WHO HAVE NO 21:48 HOPE." WILL WE SEE OUR LOVED ONES AGAIN? YES, 21:52 I BELIEVE WE WILL. IT SAYS IN VERSE 16, "FOR THE 21:56 LORD HIMSELF WILL DESCEND FROM HEAVEN WITH A SHOUT, WITH THE 21:59 VOICE OF AN ARCHANGEL, AND WITH THE TRUMPET OF GOD. 22:02 AND THE DEAD IN CHRIST WILL RISE FIRST." 22:05 THEN WE WHO ARE ALIVE WILL BE CAUGHT UP TO MEET HIM IN THE 22:07 AIR. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW 'WHEN 22:09 DOES THIS RESURRECTION TAKE PLACE?' YOU CAN'T MISINTERPRET 22:11 PAUL'S WORDS IN 1 CORINTHIANS 15:22-23, "FOR AS IN ADAM ALL 22:16 DIE, EVEN SO IN CHRIST ALL SHALL BE MADE ALIVE. 22:20 BUT EACH ONE IN HIS OWN ORDER: CHRIST THE FIRSTFRUITS," - HE 22:25 ROSE 2,000 YEARS AGO - "AFTERWARD THOSE WHO ARE 22:28 CHRIST'S" - THE DEAD IN CHRIST - "AT HIS COMING." 22:32 WHEN DO THEY RISE? AT HIS COMING. ARE THEY RISEN YET? NO. 22:37 WHY AM I TAKING TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS? 22:40 BECAUSE THE DEVIL SAYS - THE BIBLE SAYS, RATHER - THE BIBLE 22:44 SAYS, IN THE LAST DAYS, THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE 22:48 MAIN DECEPTIONS OF THE ENEMY. 2 THESSALONIANS 2:9-11, "THE 22:53 COMING OF THE LAWLESS ONE IS ACCORDING TO THE WORKING OF 22:55 SATAN, WITH ALL POWER, SIGNS, AND LYING WONDERS, AND WITH ALL 22:59 UNRIGHTEOUS DECEPTION AMONG THOSE WHO PERISH, BECAUSE THEY 23:04 DID NOT RECEIVE THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED. 23:07 AND FOR THIS REASON GOD WILL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, THAT 23:11 THEY SHOULD BELIEVE THE LIE." PAUL'S NOT WRITING TO THE PAGANS 23:14 THAT ARE LOST OUT IN THE WORLD, HE'S TALKING TO THE CHURCH. 23:18 AND IF THEY DON'T RECEIVE A LOVE OF THE WORD, THE DEVIL WILL 23:21 EXPLOIT THAT AND THEY'LL HAVE ALL KINDS OF EXPERIENCES AND BE 23:24 VERY SINCERE AND GOD WILL ALLOW THEM TO BELIEVE THESE DEADLY 23:30 DELUSIONS. IT TELLS US IN REVELATION 23:32 CHAPTER 16 THAT THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS COME OUT OF 23:37 THE MOUTHS OF THE BEAST, THE DRAGON, AND THE 23:39 FALSE PROPHET AND IT SAYS, 'THEY'RE DEVILS WORKING 23:42 MIRACLES.' 2 CORINTHIANS 11, 'SATAN HIMSELF IS TRANSFORMED 23:47 INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.' SO WHO ARE THESE BEINGS THAT SUPPOSEDLY 23:53 COMMUNICATE IN THE DREAMS? THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT THE 23:57 SPIRITS OF DEVILS WORKING MIRACLES. 24:00 IT SAYS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, 'THEY ARE LYING SPIRITS.' THE 24:03 DEVIL DIDN'T FALL ALONE, HE TOOK ANGELS WITH HIM AND THEY'RE 24:06 GOING AROUND DOING ALL THEY CAN TO DECEIVE PEOPLE IN THE LAST 24:09 DAYS. WITCHCRAFT IS ONE OF THE WORKS 24:12 OF THE FLESH LISTED IN GALATIANS 5:20 THAT IS FORBIDDEN. 24:16 PAUL SAYS WE SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UNFRUITFUL WORKS 24:19 OF DARKNESS, IN EPHESIANS. AND SO THERE'S DIABOLICAL 24:23 ACTIVITY GOING ON OUT THERE, BUT WHAT'S ESPECIALLY TROUBLING - 24:27 IT'S BEEN PUTTING ON THE GARB OF CHRISTIANITY LATELY. 24:31 AND WHEN IT'S PORTRAYED - ESPECIALLY THROUGH A LITTLE 24:34 CHILD, OR THROUGH 'WHY THIS PERSON WAS CONVERTED THROUGH 24:39 THIS EXPERIENCE AND THERE WAS PRAYER THAT WAS HAPPENING.' AND 24:42 IN THE CONTEXT OF THESE THINGS, PEOPLE THINK, 'WELL IT MUST BE 24:45 OF GOD.' BUT IF IT DOES NOT SPEAK ACCORDING TO THIS WORD, 24:49 THERE'S NO LIGHT IN THEM. I BELIEVE JESUS IS COMING AGAIN. 24:53 I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A RESURRECTION. 24:56 I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE OUR LOVED ONES AGAIN. 24:59 I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO CHANNEL AND GET 25:03 MESSAGES FROM THEM NOW BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS VERY CLEAR ON THAT 25:06 SUBJECT: LET ALL WHO HONOR GOD SHUN THE WORLD OF THE OCCULT. 25:12 SOMEONE REMINDED ME OF THE WORDS OF RUDYARD KIPLING - HE WROTE A 25:16 POEM ON THIS: 'OH, THE ROAD TO ENDOR IS THE OLDEST ROAD AND THE 25:21 CRAZIEST ROAD OF ALL! STRAIGHT IT RUNS TO THE WITCH'S 25:24 ABODE, AS IT DID IN THE DAYS OF SAUL, AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED OF 25:29 THE SORROW IN STORE FOR SUCH AS GO DOWN ON THE ROAD TO ENDOR!" 25:34 DON'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD FRIENDS, EVEN IF IT'S IN A BLOCKBUSTER 25:38 MOVIE OR A BEST-SELLING BOOK. GOD WANTS US TO STAY AWAY FROM 25:42 THESE MESSAGES THAT THE DEVIL IS TRYING TO TWEAK OUR THEOLOGY 25:46 WITH DECEIVING SPIRITS. JESUS IS COMING AGAIN. 25:49 HE SAYS, "I AM THE RESURRECTION AND THE LIFE. 25:52 HE WHO BELIEVES IN ME, THOUGH HE MAY DIE, HE SHALL LIVE. 25:55 AND WHOEVER LIVES AND BELIEVES IN ME SHALL NEVER DIE." 25:59 DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? AND DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? 26:02 THAT'S TO BE OUR SOURCE OF TRUTH, AMEN? 26:10 >>PERHAPS YOU'VE HEARD IT SAID THAT IF YOU LIVE LONG ENOUGH 26:13 YOU'LL DIE, BUT NO ONE REALLY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT DEATH. 26:17 DEATH IS THAT PROVERBIAL ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. 26:20 SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU DIE, WELL, YOU TAKE ON SOME 26:24 NEW ESSENCE OR YOU ENTER A NEW FORM. 26:26 PERHAPS YOU'RE REINCARNATED AS ANOTHER PERSON. 26:29 OTHERS BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU DIE, YOU TURN INTO FERTILIZER 26:32 AND YOU'RE DEAD. WHAT'S THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS 26:35 IMPORTANT SUBJECT THAT EVERYBODY WILL FACE SOMEDAY? 26:38 WHAT DOES THE BIBLE TEACH? 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