Participants: Pr. Doug Batchelor
Series Code: AFP
Program Code: AFP000079
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00:08 >> COMING UP NEXT ON "AMAZING FACTS PRESENTS."
00:11 >> THERE ARE ONLY TWO MASTERS. 00:12 THERE'S ONLY TWO ROADS. 00:14 JESUS SAID, "IF YOU'RE NOT WITH ME, YOU'RE AGAINST ME." 00:16 AND IF YOU'RE AGAINST JESUS, YOU'RE WITH THE DEVIL; 00:19 YOU WILL SHARE IN HIS FATE. 00:24 >> FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AMAZING FACTS HAS BEEN 00:27 DEDICATED TO SHARING GOD'S WORD THROUGH MEDIA. 00:31 THIS PROGRAM FEATURES HIGHLIGHTS FROM SOME OF OUR BEST 00:34 TELEVISION BROADCASTS. 00:36 WE INVITE YOU TO SIT BACK AND ENJOY THIS EDITION OF 00:39 "AMAZING FACTS PRESENTS." 00:53 >> I TELL YOU, IT'S FUN WALKING BACK FROM THE MEETINGS AT NIGHT. 00:56 I'D FORGOTTEN HOW MUCH OF NEW YORK CITY 00:57 IS UNDER THE STREET. 01:00 AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU SEE ALL OF THIS STEAM BILLOWING UP 01:03 OUT OF THE MANHOLES, AND IT LOOKS LIKE HELL'S DOWN YONDER 01:05 SOMETIMES WHEN YOU WALK BACK FROM THE MEETING AT NIGHT. 01:08 BUT HELL IS NOT GOING TO BURN DOWN YONDER; HELL IS GOING TO 01:12 BURN IN NEW YORK AND ALL AROUND THE WORLD. 01:15 THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT THE LAKE OF FIRE RAINS DOWN ON THE EARTH 01:18 TO PURIFY THE PLANET. 01:19 AND THAT'S OUR NEXT ANSWER, ANSWER TO QUESTION NUMBER 7. 01:22 IT SAYS, "AND THE WICKED WENT UP ON THE BREADTH OF THE EARTH, 01:26 ENCOMPASSED, SURROUNDED THE CAMP OF THE SAINTS ABOUT. 01:29 AND GOD RAINED FIRE DOWN FROM HEAVEN UPON THEM 01:33 AND IT DEVOURED THEM." 01:37 NOW, IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT THE WORD "DEVOUR" MEANS, YOU NEED TO 01:39 INVITE PASTOR DOUG OVER FOR MEXICAN FOOD AND I'LL EXPLAIN 01:43 "DEVOUR." 01:45 I'LL GIVE YOU A DEMONSTRATION. 01:47 2 PETER--I GET A LOT OF FREE MEXICAN DINNERS BY MAKING 01:51 THAT ANNOUNCEMENT. 01:52 FURTHER--2 PETER 3:10, IT TELLS US, "THE ELEMENTS WILL MELT WITH 01:57 FERVENT HEAT AND THE EARTH ALSO AND THE WORKS THAT ARE THEREIN 02:02 SHALL BE BURNED UP." 02:04 GOD IS GOING TO USE THIS FIRE TO PURIFY. 02:08 FIRE PURIFIES. 02:09 YOU KNOW, WHEN I CHECKED INTO MY APARTMENT HERE IN PREPARATION 02:12 FOR THIS SERIES, I SAID, "NOW," TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, I SAID, 02:16 "NOW, WHERE'S THE INCINERATOR?" 02:18 HE SAID, "WE DON'T USE INCINERATORS ANYMORE." 02:20 YOU KNOW, WHEN I LIVED HERE YEARS AGO, SOME OF YOU REMEMBER 02:22 THEY HAD INCINERATORS IN THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT 02:24 WOULD BURN THE GARBAGE. 02:25 HE SAID NO IT FOWLS UP THE AIR AND WE CAN'T DO THAT. 02:28 SO NOW WE MASH IT AND THEN WE PUT IT OUT ON THE STREET. 02:30 BUT FIRE ACTUALLY IS A PURIFYING AGENT. 02:35 IT DOES A LOT OF CLEANSING. 02:37 YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT GOD USES FIRE TO PURIFY US. 02:40 "DO NOT BE AMAZED AT THE FIERY TRIALS THAT TRY YOUR FAITH, 02:44 KNOWING THAT THE TRYING OF YOUR FAITH WILL MAKE YOU MORE 02:47 PRECIOUS THAN GOLD." 02:48 THE WAY THEY PURIFIED FINE METALS WITH HEAT, THE WAY YOU 02:51 GET OUT THE WRINKLES. 02:53 THE BIBLE TELLS US GOD IS COMING FOR A BRIDE WITHOUT SPOT OR 02:56 WRINKLE AND USE A HOT IRON TO MASH OUT THE WRINKLES. 03:00 AND SO GOD IS GONNA PURIFY US NOW, WITH SOMETIMES TRIALS AND 03:04 LESSONS, AND HARD THINGS WE GO THROUGH. 03:06 BUT FIRE ALSO PURIFIES, STERILIZES. 03:09 WE KNOW THAT NOW. 03:11 NUMBER 8: WILL THE DEVIL BE IN CHARGE OF HELLFIRE? 03:14 REVELATION 20:10, "AND THE DEVIL," ANSWER, "THE DEVIL THAT 03:19 DECEIVED THEM WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE." 03:24 THIS IDEA THAT THE DEVIL IS DOWN THERE CHECKING PEOPLE INTO HELL, 03:28 WE'VE ALL SEEN THE CARTOONS AND COMICS AND THE STORIES, 03:31 IT'S NOT BIBLICAL. 03:32 THE DEVIL IS GOING INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. 03:35 SO MANY OF THESE FALSE CONCEPTS ABOUT HELL CAME FROM THE MIDDLE 03:39 AGES--AND I'LL BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU--THEY WERE DEVELOPED 03:41 FOR THE PURPOSE OF SCARING PEOPLE INTO CHURCH AND THEN 03:44 SCARING MONEY OUT OF THE PEOPLE. 03:47 DID YOU KNOW THAT? 03:48 IT WAS A FEAR TACTIC. 03:50 IT WASN'T BIBLICAL. 03:51 LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY. 03:55 I KNOW, KAREN'S GOING... 03:58 I KNOW WHERE I'M AT. 03:59 I MAY NOT GET DONE, BUT I'M GONNA DO WHAT I DO WELL, OKAY? 04:04 ONE DAY, CHRISTMAS EVE, A BAPTIST MINISTER AND HIS FAMILY, 04:09 THEIR CAR BROKE DOWN NOT FAR FROM OUR CAR--FROM OUR HOME. 04:13 EVERYTHING WAS SHUT DOWN; WE INVITED THEM TO SPEND THE NIGHT. 04:17 NEEDED SOME ALTERNATOR BRUSHES AND THE STORES WERE ALL CLOSED. 04:20 I SAID, "I'M A CHRISTIAN." 04:22 HE ASKED ME WHAT WERE MY BELIEFS AND I SHARED, AND I TALKED TO 04:28 HIM ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT HELL. 04:32 'CAUSE I WAS BAPTIZED BAPTIST FIRST, WHEN I FIRST CAME TO 04:36 THE LORD. 04:37 I AM WELL ACQUAINTED WITH WHAT MY DEAR FRIENDS 04:39 IN THE BAPTIST CHURCH BELIEVE. 04:41 AND I SHARED THE SCRIPTURES I'M SHARING WITH YOU. 04:44 AND HE SAID, "BROTHER DOUG, I'VE SEEN THOSE SCRIPTURES BEFORE, 04:47 AND IF YOU GO BY THE BIBLE, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE WICKED ARE 04:49 GOING TO BE BURNT UP IN HELL. 04:50 AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE HELL IS NOT BURNING YET." 04:53 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAID? 04:54 HE SAID, "IF I TOLD MY CHURCH MEMBERS THAT, THEY WOULDN'T COME 04:56 TO CHURCH." 04:58 I SAID, "BROTHER, I HOPE THAT'S NOT WHY THEY'RE COMING." 05:03 A LOT OF PEOPLE, THE PASTORS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SORT OF 05:06 FIRE INSURANCE FOR THEM. 05:08 THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE COME AND SO THEY USE 05:10 THIS FEAR TACTIC. 05:11 DOES THE LORD WANT US TO COME BECAUSE OF FEAR OR BECAUSE OF 05:13 LOVE? 05:15 IT'S BECAUSE OF LOVE. 05:16 YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT RECOGNIZE 05:18 THESE THINGS. 05:19 QUESTION--OH, I'VE GOT ANOTHER SCRIPTURE HERE--WHAT WILL HAPPEN 05:22 TO THE FIRES OF HELL? 05:24 "THERE SHALL NOT BE A COAL TO WARM AT, NOR A FIRE 05:30 TO SIT BEFORE." 05:31 IT'S GOING TO GO OUT. 05:34 DID I READ QUESTION 9? 05:37 NO--LET ME READ QUESTION 9. 05:39 "WILL THE FIRES OF HELL EVER GO OUT?" 05:42 I'M SORRY. 05:43 I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THAT, SO THEY CAN EDIT IT LATER. 05:46 THEN THE ANSWER OF COURSE IS, "THERE SHALL NOT BE A COAL 05:50 TO WARM AT, NOR A FIRE TO SIT BEFORE IT." 05:53 YOU KNOW, I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT BELIEVES THESE THINGS. 05:56 MY CHURCH, YOU KNOW, I'M A PASTOR AND I'VE TRIED TO SAY 05:58 VERY LITTLE ABOUT MY CHURCH. 06:00 I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I'LL BE ABLE TO CONTROL MYSELF. 06:03 I TRY NOT TO BRAG TOO MUCH ABOUT MY SPECIFIC CHURCH, I WANT 06:06 TO GO FROM THE BIBLE. 06:07 BUT MY CHURCH IS NOT THE ONLY CHURCH THAT BELIEVES THIS. 06:09 THIS IS A TEACHING THAT IS COMING BACK TO THE CHRISTIAN 06:13 FAITH. 06:14 THERE IS A MINISTER BY THE NAME OF EDWARD FUDGE, A CHARISMATIC 06:17 PASTOR WHO WROTE A BOOK YOU CAN FIND IN CHRISTIAN BOOKSTORES, 06:20 IT'S SORT OF TURNING THE CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY 06:23 UP ON ITS HEELS. 06:24 AND HE'S STUDYING THIS SUBJECT. 06:25 HE'S SAYING IF WE GO BY THE BIBLE, IT'S VERY CLEAR; 06:28 THE FIRE CONSUMES THE WICKED, IT DEVOURS THEM. 06:31 THE FOREWORD IS BY F.F. BRUCE, A GREAT THEOLOGIAN FROM 06:34 THE PLYMOUTH BRETHREN. 06:35 AND SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DISCOVERED 06:38 OR DISCUSSED IN A CORNER. 06:39 IT IS A BIBLE TRUTH THAT IS COMING BACK TO THE PEOPLE AGAIN. 06:42 THE PEOPLE ARE GETTING AWAY FROM THE FEARFUL MEDIEVAL TRADITIONS 06:45 AND PAGAN FABLES, AND BACK TO WHAT DOES THE BIBLE REALLY 06:50 TEACH ABOUT THIS? 06:51 QUESTION NUMBER 10: ARE BOTH THE SOUL AND THE BODY 06:55 DESTROYED IN HELL? 06:57 WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY? 06:59 MATTHEW 10:28, "FEAR NOT THEM THAT KILL THE BODY, BUT ARE NOT 07:04 ABLE TO KILL THE SOUL." 07:06 WELL, JESUS' BODY WAS TORTURED, BUT THE DEVIL COULDN'T TOUCH HIS 07:08 SOUL. 07:09 AND YOU MIGHT BE TORTURED, BUT DON'T WORRY, THE BIBLE SAYS, 07:12 "RATHER FEAR HIM WHO IS ABLE TO DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY 07:20 IN HELL." 07:21 NOW, WHAT DID JESUS SAY IS GONNA HAPPEN? 07:23 "BOTH SOUL AND BODY WILL BE," WHAT? 07:27 "DESTROYED IN HELL." 07:29 THAT MEANS ALL THAT YOU ARE-- THE ESSENCE, THE MIND, THE BODY, 07:31 THE SOUL, THE SPIRIT, IT'S ALL DESTROYED IN HELL AND NEVER 07:35 GOING TO BE AGAIN. 07:36 NUMBER 11: FOR WHOM WILL HELLFIRE BE KINDLED? 07:40 WHO IS THE LORD DOING IT FOR? 07:41 MATTHEW 25:41, "DEPART FROM ME YE CURSED INTO EVERLASTING FIRE, 07:47 PREPARED FOR," ALL OF THE BAD PEOPLE. 07:51 WHO IS IT PREPARED FOR? 07:52 "PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS." 07:54 THE SAD THING IS, IF PEOPLE CHOOSE TO FOLLOW THE DEVIL, 07:58 THEY WILL SHARE HIS REWARD. 08:00 THERE ARE ONLY TWO MASTERS. 08:01 THERE'S ONLY TWO ROADS. 08:03 JESUS SAID, "IF YOU'RE NOT WITH ME, YOU'RE AGAINST ME." 08:06 AND IF YOU'RE AGAINST JESUS, YOU'RE WITH THE DEVIL, 08:08 YOU WILL SHARE IN HIS FATE. 08:10 GOD IS DESPERATE TO SAVE AS MANY AS HE CAN FROM THE FIRE. 08:14 HE LOVES US. 08:15 THE BIBLE TELLS US THE LORD IS NOT WILLING THAT, "ANY SHOULD 08:18 PERISH, BUT THAT ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE." 08:22 GOD, WHO WOULD HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED, THE BIBLE SAYS, "FOR 08:26 WHOSOEVER WILL, LET HIM COME AND TAKE THE WATER OF LIFE FREELY. 08:30 GOD IS GIVING THIS MESSAGE 'CAUSE HE WANTS TO SAVE US 08:33 FROM THE LAKE OF FIRE. 08:35 THERE IS PUNISHMENT FOR THE WICKED AND WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT, 08:38 BUT IT'S DESIGNED FOR THE DEVIL AND THOSE THAT FOLLOW HIM. 08:41 NUMBER 12--HOW DOES THE BIBLE REFER TO GOD'S DESTRUCTION OF 08:45 THE WICKED? 08:47 ISAIAH 28:21, IT SAYS, "THE LORD SHALL BE WROTH THAT HE MIGHT DO 08:53 HIS WORK, HIS STRANGE WORK, AND BRING TO PASS HIS ACT-- 08:58 HIS STRANGE ACT." 09:01 GOD IS A GIVER OF LIFE. 09:04 THE LORD WANTS TO CREATE LIFE. 09:06 HE'S A GOD OF LOVE AND BLESSING. 09:07 LOOK AT THE GARDEN OF EDEN IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT GOD 09:10 IS LIKE. 09:11 HE MADE A PARADISE AND HE PUT MAN IN PARADISE, 09:14 THAT WE MIGHT ENJOY BLISS. 09:16 HE SAID EVERYTHING WAS GOOD, GOOD, VERY GOOD. 09:19 IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT GOD'S DESIGN IS FOR YOU, YOU'VE GOT TO 09:22 LOOK BACK AT THE GARDEN IN EDEN. 09:24 YOU NEED TO LOOK AHEAD AT THE GARDEN IN THE NEW CITY, RIGHT? 09:27 GOD WANTS YOU TO BE HAPPY. 09:29 WHEN HE HAS TO CAST THE WICKED IN THE LAKE OF FIRE, 09:32 YOU THINK HE ENJOYS THAT? 09:34 IT SAYS, THE BIBLE SAYS IT'S HIS STRANGE ACT. 09:37 HE TAKES NO PLEASURE AT ALL IN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WICKED. 09:41 YOU KNOW, WHEN I LIVED UP IN THE CAVE, MY CAT--CATS ARE A LITTLE 09:46 SADISTIC WHEN THEY CATCH MICE. 09:48 THEY DON'T JUST CATCH 'EM AND TAKE OUT THEIR FORK AND KNIFE 09:51 AND EAT 'EM. 09:52 THEY LIKE TO PLAY WITH THEIR FOOD. 09:55 AND I REMEMBER I APPRECIATED THAT THE CAT WOULD DO THAT FROM 09:57 TIME-TO-TIME. 09:58 MATTER OF FACT, WE'VE GOT MICE IN OUR APARTMENT RIGHT NOW. 10:01 BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DISPATCH THEM QUICKLY. 10:04 WELL, MY CAT ONE TIME CAUGHT A LITTLE KANGAROO RAT 10:06 WHILE I WAS COOKING MY DINNER. 10:09 AND THEY BEAT IT UP, AND THEN THEY LET IT GO AND LET IT RUN, 10:12 AND THEN CATCH IT AGAIN. 10:13 AND THE POOR LITTLE DAZED CREATURE TRIED TO BOLT FOR 10:15 FREEDOM, AND HE HOPPED OFF INTO THE FIRE. 10:19 AND IT ONLY TOOK--NOW, LISTEN TO, LISTEN TO THE REACTION HERE 10:22 IN MANHATTAN, AMONG ALL THESE PEOPLE, "OOH. 10:25 LITTLE KANGAROO RAT." 10:28 AND YOU KNOW WHAT? 10:29 THAT'S HOW I FELT. 10:31 IT ONLY SUFFERED A FEW SECONDS, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE AN ETERNITY. 10:35 AND I THOUGHT, "OH, THE POOR LITTLE THING IS SUFFERING!" 10:38 IT WAS BAD ENOUGH WHEN MY CAT WAS TORTURING, BUT IN THE FIRE. 10:43 I COULD NOT BEAR TO SEE A MOUSE SUFFER THAT WAY--DO YOU THINK 10:47 THAT GOD IS GOING TO DO THAT TO HIS REBELLIOUS CREATURES 10:50 THROUGH ALL ETERNITY? 10:52 STAY WITH ME, FRIENDS. 10:53 NUMBER 13: DOESN'T THE BIBLE PHRASE "UNQUENCHABLE FIRE" 10:58 INDICATE THAT THE FIRE NEVER GOES OUT? 11:01 I MEAN IT SAYS, "UNQUENCHABLE," THAT MEANS IT BURNS FOREVER 11:03 AND EVER. 11:04 LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. 11:06 MATTHEW 3:12. 11:08 IT SAYS, "HE WILL THOROUGHLY PURGE HIS FLOOR AND GATHER 11:12 HIS WHEAT INTO THE GARNER. 11:14 BUT HE WILL BURN UP THE CHAFE WITH UNQUENCHABLE FIRE." 11:19 THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CONTRADICTION. 11:20 BURNT UP MEANS ALL GONE, BUT IT SAYS "UNQUENCHABLE FIRE." 11:23 STAY WITH ME, I'LL EXPLAIN IT. 11:25 WHENEVER YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND A PHRASE IN THE BIBLE, GO 11:27 SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE BIBLE TO GET AN EXPLANATION. 11:30 LET THE BIBLE EXPLAIN ITSELF. 11:32 CAN YOU SAY AMEN? 11:33 THIS IS NOT IN YOUR LESSON--OR, IT IS IN YOUR LESSON, IT'S NOT 11:36 PART OF THE ANSWER. 11:37 REVELATION--I'M SORRY, JEREMIAH 17:27, 11:39 "BUT IF YOU WILL NOT HEARKEN UNTO ME TO HALLOW THE 11:42 SABBATH DAY, AND NOT TO BEAR A BURDEN EVEN ENTERING IN AT 11:46 THE GATES OF JERUSALEM ON THE SABBATH DAY. 11:49 THEN I'LL KINDLE A FIRE IN THE GATES THEREOF AND IT WILL 11:52 DEVOUR THE PALACES OF JERUSALEM, AND IT SHALL NOT BE QUENCHED." 11:56 HERE IT SAYS "DEVOUR," THERE IT SAYS, "NOT QUENCHED." 11:59 THE PALACES AND THE GATES WERE DEVOURED, THEY WERE BURNT BY 12:02 NEBUCHADNEZZAR, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT REPENT OF THEIR SINS. 12:05 THEY ARE NOT STILL BURNING TODAY. 12:07 UNQUENCHABLE MEANS IT IS NOT EXTINGUISHED. 12:10 ANOTHER SCRIPTURE HERE, MARK 9:47-48, 12:14 "IF YOUR EYE CAUSES YOU TO SIN, PLUCK IT OUT, FOR IT IS 12:17 BETTER FOR YOU TO ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD WITH ONE EYE, 12:20 RATHER THAN HAVING TWO EYES TO BE CAST INTO HELLFIRE, 12:24 WHERE THE WORM DOES NOT DIE AND THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED. 12:28 NOW, LET ME EXPLAIN THIS WITH AN ILLUSTRATION--AND I HOPE 12:31 THIS WORKS. 12:35 I'VE GOT A PACK OF MATCHES HERE. 12:40 PLEASE DON'T CONTACT THE FIRE MARSHAL. 12:44 I'VE SEEN PLENTY OF PEOPLE SMOKING AROUND THIS PLACE, 12:47 I'M SURE I CAN DO THIS. 12:48 ALL RIGHT. 12:55 NOW, THE FIRE IS BURNING. 12:57 IT'S NOT QUENCHED; I'M NOT GOING TO QUENCH IT. 13:01 IT'S BURNING; TRUST ME. 13:05 I'M NOT GONNA QUENCH IT. 13:10 NOT GONNA--OOH, THAT'S HOT. 13:11 NOT GONNA QUENCH IT. 13:13 I'M NOT QUENCHING IT. 13:14 NOT GONNA QUENCH IT. 13:16 I DIDN'T QUENCH IT. 13:18 IS IT BURNING? 13:19 QUENCH IS A VERB, IT MEANS "TO EXTINGUISH." 13:22 IT'S SAYING THE FIRE-- WHAT'S LEFT? 13:24 ASHES, THERE'S NOTHING LEFT. 13:27 I DID NOT QUENCH IT. 13:28 NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRES OF HELL. 13:31 THERE WILL BE NO FIREMEN IN HELL RUNNING AROUND, PUTTING THE FIRE 13:35 OUT. 13:36 THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE IS SAYING WHEN IT TELLS US THAT IT IS 13:40 UNQUENCHABLE FIRE. 13:42 OKAY. 13:44 NUMBER 14: DOESN'T THE PHRASE "EVERLASTING FIRE" MEAN 13:48 UNENDING? 13:49 IT SAYS "EVERLASTING" DOES THAT MEAN IT'S GONNA BURN FOREVER 13:52 AND EVER? 13:53 LET'S FIND OUT. 13:54 JUDE NUMBER 7, JUDE VERSE 7, "EVEN AS SODOM AND GOMORRAH 13:59 ARE SET FORTH FOR AN EXAMPLE, SUFFERING THE VENGEANCE OF 14:03 ETERNAL FIRE." 14:05 SODOM AND GOMORRAH WERE BURNT UP WITH ETERNAL FIRE. 14:08 ARE THEY STILL BURNING TODAY? 14:11 NO. 14:12 I'VE BEEN TO THE DEAD SEA, THE LOWEST POINT ON EARTH, 14:16 AND THOSE CITIES ARE DESTROYED. 14:18 MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU GO TO THE SOUTH END OF THE DEAD SEA, 14:21 THERE, THERE IS A HILLY AREA THERE THAT IS JUST PILES OF ASH. 14:26 AND EMBEDDED IN THE ASH ARE LITTLE SULFUR BALLS. 14:29 I HAVE ONE OF THEM IN MY APARTMENT IN CALIFORNIA, IN MY 14:32 HOUSE IN CALIFORNIA, AND YOU CAN SET THEM ON FIRE AND THEY BURN. 14:35 IT'S LIKE THEY'RE LEFTOVERS FROM THE DESTRUCTION. 14:38 ONLY PLACE IN THE WORLD WHERE YOU FIND SOMETHING LIKE THAT, 14:40 SULFUR BALLS EMBEDDED IN ASH AT THE SOUTH END OF THE SEA, 14:43 OF THE DEAD SEA. 14:45 THAT MAKES ME THINK THAT THIS STORY IS REAL. 14:48 OKAY, WHERE AM I? 14:50 NUMBER 15? 14:54 WHEN REVELATION 20:10 STATES THAT THE WICKED WILL BE 14:58 TORMENTED FOREVER AND EVER, DOESN'T THAT 15:01 INDICATE ENDLESS TIME? 15:03 WELL, YOU'D THINK SO. 15:04 JONAH 2:6--REMEMBER HOW LONG WAS JONAH IN THE BELLY OF THE FISH? 15:09 THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS. 15:11 WHAT DID JONAH SAY? 15:13 "THE EARTH WITH HER BARS WAS ABOUT ME FOREVER." 15:18 WELL, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT JONAH WAS IN THE BELLY OF THE WHALE 15:20 THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS. 15:23 NOW, IT MIGHT HAVE SEEMED LIKE FOREVER. 15:25 CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE TO HAVE BEEN IN 15:27 THAT DARK, CRAMPED, SLIMY, STOMACH ACID, THAT BURNING? 15:32 AND YOU KNOW WHAT OCCURRED TO ME ONE DAY THAT REALLY 15:34 GAVE ME THE CREEPS? 15:35 IF JONAH WAS ALIVE IN THERE FOR THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS, 15:38 THERE COULD HAVE BEEN OTHER CREEPY CRAWLY CREATURES. 15:42 HE COULD HAVE BEEN IN THERE WITH SQUIDS AND SEA URCHINS, AND IT 15:44 PROBABLY SEEMED LIKE FOREVER. 15:46 DON'T YOU THINK? 15:48 ESPECIALLY WITH NO WATCH DOWN THERE. 15:52 IT SEEMED LIKE FOREVER. 15:54 WHAT DOES THE BIBLE MEAN WHEN IT SAYS "FOREVER AND EVER?" 15:57 WELL, YOU HAVE TO READ IT IN ITS CONTEXT. 15:59 IN GREEK THE WORD "FOREVER" COMES FROM THE SAME ROOT WORD 16:02 WHERE WE GET "EON," "ANON." 16:04 IT MEANS "AN UNSPECIFIED PERIOD OF TIME." 16:07 YOU EVER SAID, "WHY, I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM IN EONS?" 16:11 YOU HEARD THAT EXPRESSION? 16:12 WELL, THAT DOESN'T MEAN I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM FOREVER; 16:15 IT MEANS IT'S A LONG TIME. 16:18 AND THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO FEEL WHEN THE WICKED ARE CAST 16:20 INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. 16:21 REVELATION SAYS, "THE SMOKE OF THEIR TORMENT ASCENDS UP FOREVER 16:25 AND EVER." 16:26 REMEMBER, ASCENDS UP FOREVER AND EVER MEANS OUT OF SIGHT. 16:31 WE HAD THESE CITY DUMPS IN TEXAS WHEN I LIVED THERE, EVERY TEN 16:35 MILES THERE WAS A LITTLE TOWN, AND EVERY TOWN HAD A LITTLE 16:37 DUMP. 16:38 AND THEY USED TO BURN THE DUMPS TO KEEP THE STENCH DOWN. 16:41 AND YOU COULD LOOK ON BURN DAYS AS YOU DROVE ACROSS THE 16:44 PANHANDLE OF TEXAS, AND YOU COULD SEE THESE LITTLE PILLARS 16:48 OF SMOKE GOING UP OUT OF SIGHT FOREVER AND EVER. 16:52 THEY DIDN'T BURN UP FOREVER AND EVER, BUT THEY WENT UP OUT 16:54 OF SIGHT FOREVER. 16:56 SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? 16:57 SO YOU'VE GOT TO READ IT IN ITS CONTEXT. 17:00 IT ASCENDS OUT OF SIGHT. 17:02 FURTHERMORE, WHEN A HEBREW MAN HAD A HEBREW SLAVE, HE COULD 17:07 SERVE HIS MASTER SIX YEARS. 17:09 AT THE END OF SIX YEARS HE WAS ALLOWED TO GO FREE, 17:11 BUT IF HE LIKED HIS MASTER, HE'D GO THROUGH A RITUAL, 17:14 WHERE HE WOULD POKE HIS EAR TO THE DOOR OF THE HOUSE. 17:18 AND IT SAYS, "AND HE WILL SERVE HIM FOREVER." 17:21 BUT WHAT DID THAT MEAN? 17:23 'TIL HE DIED, RIGHT? 17:26 1 SAMUEL, REMEMBER WHEN HANNAH BROUGHT LITTLE SAMUEL TO 17:30 THE TEMPLE TO DEDICATE HIM TO THE LORD? 17:32 SHE LEFT HIM THERE TO REMAIN FOR HOW LONG? 17:35 FOREVER. 17:36 YOU READ A COUPLE MORE VERSES AND IT SAYS, 17:38 "AS LONG AS HE LIVED." 17:40 SO HOW LONG WAS FOREVER? 17:41 AS LONG AS HE LIVES. 17:43 IF A PERSON COMMITS A BUNCH OF TERRIBLE CRIMES AND MURDERS, AND 17:46 THE JUDGE GIVES HIM A THOUSAND YEARS--YOU KNOW, SOME JUDGES DO 17:51 THAT, THEY COMPOUND SENTENCES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT PAROLED 17:53 AND THEY GIVE 'EM 50 TO LIFE TERMS. 17:55 YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING? 17:56 ETERNAL PUNISHMENT. 17:59 THEY'RE NEVER GETTING OUT. 18:00 THERE'S NO SECOND CHANCE. 18:01 AND THIS IS WHAT GOD IS TELLING US. 18:03 THAT'S WHY HE'S PLEADING WITH US TO ACCEPT JESUS IN THESE LIVES 18:06 THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE SO SHORT COMPARED TO ETERNITY. 18:09 YOU'VE GOT ONE LIFE TO MAKE A DECISION, BECAUSE YOUR 18:12 DESTINY IS ETERNAL. 18:14 YOU'VE GOT ETERNAL LIFE OR ETERNAL DEATH, BUT NOT ETERNAL 18:17 CONSCIOUS BURNING. 18:19 GOD DOES NOT HAVE A TORTURE CHAMBER OUT THERE IN THE 18:21 UNIVERSE SOMEWHERE WHERE HE'S GONNA TORMENT PEOPLE FOREVER 18:24 AND EVER. 18:25 FOREVER AND EVER IS A BIBLICAL EXPRESSION THAT MEANS "UNTIL THE 18:29 END OF THE AGE," NOT NECESSARILY AN INFINITE PERIOD OF BURNING 18:33 TIME. 18:34 ALL RIGHT, QUESTION NUMBER 16: AFTER SIN AND SINNERS ARE 18:38 DESTROYED, WHAT WILL JESUS DO FOR HIS PEOPLE? 18:43 2 PETER 3:13, "NEVERTHELESS, WE, ACCORDING TO HIS PROMISE, LOOK 18:49 FOR A NEW HEAVENS AND A NEW EARTH, WHEREIN DWELLS 18:54 RIGHTEOUSNESS." 18:56 I ESPECIALLY LIKE THIS NEXT VERSE. 18:59 REVELATION 21:4, "AND GOD WILL WIPE AWAY ALL TEARS FROM THEIR 19:04 EYES," AND THE BIBLE SAYS, "THERE WILL BE NO MORE DEATH, 19:09 NEITHER WILL THERE BE ANY SORROW NOR CRYING, NEITHER SHALL THERE 19:14 BE ANY MORE PAIN. 19:18 FOR THE FORMER THINGS HAVE PASSED AWAY, BEHOLD I MAKE 19:20 ALL THINGS NEW." 19:21 GOD IS NOT GOING TO IMMORTALIZE SINNERS. 19:25 HOW COULD YOU ENJOY ETERNAL LIFE IF FRIENDS OR FAMILY THAT YOU 19:28 KNOW OR LOST WERE BURNING IN THE LAKE OF FIRE? 19:32 THAT'S A TERRIBLE--I ASKED A MAN ONE TIME WHO BELIEVED THAT, I 19:35 SAID, "WHAT DO YOU--WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF, HEAVEN FORBID, YOU'RE 19:37 IN HEAVEN AND YOUR WIFE IS LOST, AND SHE'S BURNING IN THE LAKE OF 19:41 FIRE, HOW COULD YOU ENJOY YOUR REWARD?" 19:44 AND HE SAID, "WELL, I'D JUST PRAISE GOD. 19:46 I'D JUST PRAISE HIM." 19:47 HIS WIFE LOOKED AT HIM FUNNY, TOO, WHEN HE SAID THAT. 19:51 I MEAN IS GOD GOING TO ERASE ALL NATURAL AFFECTION FROM US? 19:55 I, 15 YEARS AGO, LIVED WAY BACK UP IN THE HILLS, CALLED THIS 20:00 CHRISTIAN RADIO PROGRAM. 20:03 I WAS LISTENING AS PEOPLE CALLED IN BIBLE QUESTIONS. 20:06 YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THESE BIBLE CALL-IN PROGRAMS. 20:08 AND THIS WOMAN CALLED, AND IT WAS VERY, VERY SOBER, 20:14 TOUCHING CALL. 20:16 SHE SAID, "BROTHER SO AND SO, MY SON DIED IN A CAR ACCIDENT WHILE 20:21 DRINKING A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, HE MADE NO PROFESSION OF BEING 20:23 A CHRISTIAN. 20:24 I NEED TO KNOW--IS HE BURNING IN HELL RIGHT NOW?" 20:29 WELL, HE TRIED TO EVADE A DIRECT ANSWER AND SAY, "WELL, GOD 20:32 JUDGES THESE THINGS AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT MYSELF..." 20:34 SHE SAID, "NO, NO, NO--TELL ME, I NEED TO KNOW." 20:38 HE SAID, "WELL, IF HE WASN'T SAVED, THE BIBLE'S CLEAR THAT 20:42 HE GOES TO HELL AND HE WILL BE TORMENTED FOREVER." 20:46 AND YOU COULD HEAR THE LADY, BEFORE HE'D FINISHED, 20:48 CHOKE AND HANG UP THE PHONE. 20:50 IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT, A COLLEGE STUDENT, 20:53 A YOUNG LADY, CALLED UP. 20:54 SHE SAID, "BROTHER SO AND SO, I WANT TO BELIEVE IN GOD, I WANT 20:57 TO GIVE MY HEART TO JESUS, BUT I HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME THINKING 21:00 THAT I COULD TRUST AND LOVE A GOD WHO IS SO SADISTIC AND 21:03 UNJUST THAT HE'LL TAKE THESE CREATURES HE'S CREATED THAT HAVE 21:06 A NATURAL PROPENSITY TO SIN ANYWAY. 21:09 ALL OF US SIN BY NATURE WHEN WE'RE BORN. 21:11 AND THEN PLUNGE THEM IN A LAKE OF FIRE FOR ALL ETERNITY FOR 21:16 THE SINS OF ONE BRIEF LIFETIME." 21:18 HE SAID, "WHO ARE WE TO QUESTION GOD? 21:20 AND IF YOU UNDERSTOOD HOW BAD SIN WAS--" 21:22 WELL, AT THIS POINT I'M JUMPING UP AND DOWN, YELLING AT MY RADIO 21:23 IN MY HOUSE, TEN MILES AWAY FROM THE NEAREST TELEPHONE. 21:28 FORTUNATELY, IT WAS A PROGRAM THAT LASTED MORE THAN AN HOUR. 21:32 I JUMPED IN MY CAR AND I RACED DOWN THESE BUMPY MOUNTAIN ROADS. 21:36 AND I PRAYED AS I WENT. 21:37 I JUST ABOUT KILLED MYSELF TRYING TO GET TO TOWN. 21:40 WENT TO A FRIEND'S HOUSE THAT HAD A PHONE, CHARGED IN WITHOUT 21:42 EVEN KNOCKING AND SAID, "I'VE GOT TO USE YOUR PHONE." 21:45 AND I'D PRAYED ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT I'D GET THROUGH, AND IT'S 21:48 ALWAYS A VERY BUSY PROGRAM. 21:49 AND I PRAYED THAT THESE TWO LADIES WOULD STILL BE LISTENING. 21:52 I DIALED, BUSY SIGNAL. 21:54 BUT I DON'T GIVE UP-- GOD WANTS YOU TO BE PERSISTENT. 21:57 I DIALED AGAIN AND I GOT THROUGH. 22:00 AND THEN, THE MAN SAID, "STAY ON THE LINE." 22:03 PRETTY SOON THE SPEAKER CAME ON AND SAID, "WELCOME TO SUCH 22:05 AND SUCH A PROGRAM." 22:07 I SAID, "BROTHER SO AND SO." 22:10 I SAID, "I BELIEVE THE BIBLE CLEARLY TEACHES THAT WHEN 22:12 A PERSON DIES, THEY SLEEP UNTIL THE RESURRECTION AND THAT NOBODY 22:15 IS BURNING IN HELL UNTIL AFTER THE JUDGMENT, AND THAT THEY 22:18 DON'T BURN FOREVER. 22:19 CAN I PLEASE SHARE A FEW SCRIPTURES? 22:20 THANK YOU, VERY MUCH." 22:21 AND YOU'VE GOTTA TALK FAST, BECAUSE THIS GUY CUTS YOU OFF 22:23 AND INTERRUPTS YOU. 22:24 AND GOD HAS GIVEN ME THAT GIFT, YOU KNOW? 22:27 I GREW UP IN NEW YORK CITY. 22:29 AND SO I JUST STARTED GOING... 22:32 AND STARTED SHARING ALL THESE SCRIPTURES AND SAYING, "THEY'LL 22:35 PERISH, THEY'LL DIE, THEY'LL CONSUME, THEY'LL BE NO MORE, 22:37 THEY'LL BE BURNT UP; NO MORE PAIN." 22:39 AND I GAVE--AND THEN HE'S-- PRETTY SOON I'M LISTENING 22:42 ON THE RADIO AND I DIDN'T HEAR MY VOICE ANYMORE. 22:44 AND HE'D PRESSED THE MUTE BUTTON AND HE BEGAN TO TRY AND 22:46 STRAIGHTEN THINGS OUT. 22:48 AND HE CAME BACK AND I SAID, "NOW, MAY I RESPOND TO THAT?" 22:51 HE GAVE THE TYPICAL THINGS. 22:52 I SAID, "SODOM AND GOMORRAH WERE BURNT WITH ETERNAL FIRE. 22:55 THEY'RE NOT BURNING TODAY, THEY'RE ASHES. 22:56 AND THAT'S WHAT GOD'S GOING TO DO WITH THE WICKED." 22:58 AND HE HUNG UP ON ME. 23:01 I WAS POLITE. 23:02 YOU KNOW WHAT I DID? 23:03 I SAID, "LORD, I WISH SOME DAY I COULD HAVE A RADIO PROGRAM WHERE 23:07 I COULD GIVE PEOPLE THE RIGHT ANSWERS." 23:09 AND YOU KNOW, I NEVER DREAMED HE'D DO IT. 23:11 I'VE GOT MY OWN RADIO PROGRAM NOW. 23:13 SO ANYWAY, HE WOULDN'T TAKE ANY MORE PHONE CALLS FOR THE LAST 23:19 20 MINUTES OF THE PROGRAM, BECAUSE WHAT THE BIBLE DID WAS 23:23 SO OVERPOWERING THAT HE HAD NO ARGUMENT FOR IT. 23:26 FRIENDS, I HOPE YOU'LL READ THE ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTS THAT ARE 23:29 IN YOUR LESSON, BUT WE NEED TO WIND THIS UP HERE. 23:32 I WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK WITH ME. 23:33 QUESTION NUMBER 17: WILL THE SIN PROBLEM EVER RISE UP 23:37 AGAIN THE SECOND TIME? 23:39 IT SAYS, "AFFLICTION SHALL NOT RISE THE SECOND TIME." 23:44 THERE WILL NEVER BE THIS DANGER AGAIN. 23:46 GOD IS NOT GOING TO IMMORTALIZE THE DEVIL AND SINNERS. 23:49 IF ANYONE DESERVES TO BURN FOREVER, IT'S SATAN, RIGHT? 23:52 AND THE BIBLE SAYS IN EZEKIEL, "NEVER SHALL THOU BE ANYMORE." 23:57 YOU WILL NOT BE. 23:58 GOD SAYS, "I AM AND YOU WILL NOT BE." 24:01 HE'S NOT GOING TO BE IMMORTALIZED, HE WILL SUFFER 24:04 LONGER THAN ANYONE. 24:05 FURTHERMORE, I'VE GOT SO MUCH TO SAY AND NO TIME LEFT-- 24:08 FURTHERMORE FRIENDS: WHAT PENETRATING QUESTION DOES 24:12 JOB ASK? 24:13 "SHALL MORTAL MAN BE MORE JUST THAN GOD?" 24:18 IS THERE ANYBODY HERE, IF YOUR CHILD WAS A REBEL, 24:23 DISRESPECTFUL, CURSED THEIR PARENTS, STOLE YOUR MONEY--AND 24:26 I'VE MET SOME KIDS THAT ARE LIKE THIS--WOULD YOU SPANK 'EM FOR 24:29 A MONTH? 24:31 WOULD YOU SPANK 'EM FOR A WEEK? 24:34 SOME PARENTS ABUSE THEIR CHILDREN, BUT THEY FINALLY GET 24:35 TIRED, YOU KNOW? 24:39 NO, YOU WOULDN'T DO THAT. 24:40 ARE WE MORE JUST THAN GOD? 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