Participants: Pr. Doug Batchelor
Series Code: AFP
Program Code: AFP000049
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00:09 "AMAZING FACTS PRESENTS--" >> I MEAN FEAR IS NOT ALL BAD 00:13 AND THE BIBLE DOES SAY SOME THINGS THAT SHOULD SOBER US UP. 00:16 I THINK IF A PERSON IS ON THE WAY TO DESTRUCTION, 00:19 THEY SHOULD NOT BE AT PEACE. 00:20 I HOPE YOU'RE AFRAID. 00:26 >> FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AMAZING FACTS HAS BEEN DEDICATED 00:29 TO SHARING GOD'S WORD THROUGH MEDIA. 00:32 THIS PROGRAM FEATURES HIGHLIGHTS FROM SOME OF OUR BEST 00:35 TELEVISION BROADCASTS. 00:38 WE INVITE YOU TO SIT BACK AND ENJOY THIS EDITION OF 00:41 "AMAZING FACTS PRESENTS." 00:45 TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS AN EXCERPT FROM 00:48 THE "HERE WE STAND" SERIES. 00:55 >> NOW OUR MESSAGE TONIGHT IS CALLED "THE RICH MAN AND 00:58 LAZARUS," AND IT'S BASED ON A PARABLE THAT IS ONLY FOUND 01:02 ONE TIME IN THE BIBLE. 01:04 IF YOU'D LIKE TO TURN IN YOUR BIBLES TO THIS PARABLE, 01:07 IT'S IN THE GOSPEL OF LUKE. 01:08 LUKE 16 AND IT BEGINS WITH VERSE 19. 01:14 "THERE WAS A CERTAIN RICH MAN WHO WAS CLOTHED IN PURPLE AND 01:18 FINE LINEN AND HE FARED--OR FEASTED SUMPTUOUSLY EVERY DAY. 01:23 AND THERE WAS A CERTAIN BEGGAR NAMED LAZARUS FULL OF SORES WHO 01:28 WAS LAID AT HIS GATE DESIRING TO BE FED WITH THE CRUMBS THAT FELL 01:32 FROM THE RICH MAN'S TABLE. 01:34 MOREOVER, THE DOGS CAME AND LICKED HIS SORES. 01:37 SO IT WAS THAT THE BEGGAR DIED AND WAS CARRIED BY THE ANGELS 01:40 TO ABRAHAM'S BOSOM. 01:42 THE RICH MAN ALSO DIED AND WAS BURIED. 01:46 AND BEING IN TORMENTS IN HADES, HE LIFTED UP HIS EYES AND HE SAW 01:50 ABRAHAM AFAR OFF, AND LAZARUS IN HIS BOSOM. 01:54 AND HE CRIED AND HE SAID, 'FATHER, ABRAHAM HAVE MERCY ON 01:57 ME AND SEND LAZARUS THAT HE MIGHT DIP THE TIP OF HIS FINGER 02:00 IN WATER AND COOL MY TONGUE FOR I AM TORMENTED IN THIS FLAME.' 02:05 BUT ABRAHAM SAID, 'SON, REMEMBER THAT YOU IN YOUR LIFETIME 02:08 RECEIVED YOUR GOOD THINGS AND LIKEWISE LAZARUS EVIL THINGS, 02:11 BUT NOW HE IS COMFORTED AND YOU ARE TORMENTED. 02:14 AND BESIDES ALL THIS BETWEEN US AND YOU THERE IS A GREAT GULF 02:17 FIXED SO THAT THOSE WHO WANT TO PASS FROM HERE TO YOU CANNOT NOR 02:21 CAN THOSE PASS TO US FROM THERE.' 02:25 THEN HE SAID, 'I BEG YOU THEREFORE MY FATHER, THAT YOU 02:27 WOULD SEND HIM TO MY FATHER'S HOUSE FOR I'VE GOT FIVE BRETHREN 02:31 THAT HE MIGHT TESTIFY TO THEM LEST THEY ALSO COME TO 02:34 THIS PLACE OF TORMENT.' AND ABRAHAM SAID TO HIM, 'THEY 02:39 HAVE MOSES AND THE PROPHETS. 02:40 LET THEM HEAR THEM.' AND HE SAID, 'NO, FATHER 02:45 ABRAHAM, BUT IF ONE GOES TO THEM FROM THE DEAD, THEY'LL REPENT.' 02:49 BUT HE SAID TO HIM, 'IF THEY DO NOT HEAR MOSES AND THE PROPHETS, 02:52 NEITHER WILL THEY BE PERSUADED THOUGH ONE SHOULD RISE 02:56 FROM THE DEAD.'" NOW THAT'S THE PARABLE. 03:00 MANY PEOPLE HAVE READ THIS PARABLE, AND IT IS ONE OF THE 03:04 EXAMPLES OF WHY PEOPLE BELIEVE OR MISUNDERSTAND THE SUBJECT 03:09 OF HELL. 03:10 NOW LET ME JUST TELL YOU VERY QUICKLY, ONE OF 03:14 THE UNIQUE TEACHINGS OF THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST MOVEMENT 03:17 IS OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE PUNISHMENT OF THE WICKED AND 03:22 THE REWARDS CONNECTED WITH THAT. 03:26 TYPICAL AMONG MANY CHRISTIAN CHURCHES IS THE BELIEF THAT 03:28 IF YOU'RE GOOD, YOU DIE, YOU GO RIGHT TO HEAVEN. 03:31 IF YOU'RE BAD, YOU DIE, YOU GO WHERE? 03:34 YEAH, YOU GO TO THAT PLACE SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT SURE IF WE 03:37 CAN SAY THE WORD "HELL" 'CAUSE IN SOME CONTEXT IT SOUNDS 03:39 LIKE CURSING, BUT IT IS A BIBLICAL WORD. 03:43 AND THERE YOU WILL BURN, AND YOU'LL BURN FOREVER AND EVER. 03:48 AND WHEN PEOPLE BEGIN TO LEARN WHAT THE BIBLE REALLY SAYS ABOUT 03:52 THIS SUBJECT, THEY OFTEN RUN BACK TO THE PARABLE OF THE 03:56 RICH MAN AND LAZARUS. 03:58 NOW I WANTED TO START OUT BY SHARING WITH YOU WHAT THIS DOES 04:02 NOT MEAN, AND THEN I'M GONNA TALK TO YOU AND TELL YOU 04:04 ABOUT WHAT IT DOES MEAN. 04:07 FIRST OF ALL, IT IS A PARABLE. 04:08 IT'S IN A SERIES OF PARABLES THAT JESUS IS USING TO SEND 04:12 A VERY SPECIFIC MESSAGE. 04:14 ONE WAY THAT WE KNOW IT'S A PARABLE, JUST ASK YOURSELF 04:17 SOME SIMPLE QUESTIONS. 04:18 IT SAYS THAT THE RICH MAN WAS IN TORMENT, AND HE WAS ASKING THAT 04:25 HIS TONGUE COULD BE COOLED WITH A DROP OF WATER. 04:29 WOULD A DROP OF WATER REALLY COOL YOU IN HELL? 04:33 HOW MUCH GOOD WOULD THAT DO? 04:34 I MEAN, IF YOU'VE GOT A BURNING RADIATOR, HOW MUCH GOOD IS ONE 04:37 DROP OF WATER? 04:39 SECONDLY IT SAYS THAT LAZARUS DIED AND HE IS CARRIED TO 04:43 ABRAHAM'S BOSOM. 04:45 DO WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT EVERY GOOD PERSON THAT DIES IS WHISKED 04:51 BY THE ANGELS TO A HOLDING PLACE SOMEWHERE ON THE BOSOM OF 04:56 ABRAHAM? 04:57 IS THAT LITERAL OR IS THAT OBVIOUSLY A FIGURE? 05:02 FURTHERMORE DO WE BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE IN HEAVEN AND HELL 05:06 ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DIALOGUE THROUGH ETERNITY? 05:11 WHAT KIND OF HORRIFIC PICTURE WOULD THAT BE IF THE SAVED ARE 05:14 ABLE TO LOOK OFF AS ABRAHAM DID AND SEE THE LOST BLISTERING 05:20 IN TORMENT? 05:22 WHY DID JESUS TELL THIS PARABLE? 05:25 WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S EXPLAIN THE WORD THAT'S USED 05:28 THERE FOR HELL. 05:29 IT'S FROM A GREEK WORD HADES AND IT COMES FROM GREEK MYTHOLOGY. 05:35 SO WHEN JESUS IS BEGINNING TO SHARE THIS MESSAGE WITH THE 05:38 JEWISH PEOPLE, THIS PARABLE, AS SOON AS HE SAYS THE WORD 05:42 "HADES," THE LISTENERS THERE UNDERSTOOD HE WAS SPEAKING 05:46 IN METAPHORS. 05:48 NOW SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE SPENT SO MUCH TIME TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHAT 05:51 THIS DOESN'T MEAN, THEY FORGET WHAT IT REALLY DOES MEAN. 05:54 LET ME TELL YOU WHAT IT IS TALKING ABOUT. 05:57 THAT RICH MAN REPRESENTED, AT THE TIME, THE JEWISH NATION. 06:01 TODAY IT REPRESENTS THE CHURCH FEASTING ON THE BREAD OF LIFE. 06:06 WHILE AROUND THEM THE GENTILES WERE STARVING FOR THE CRUMBS 06:09 OF TRUTH THAT FELL FROM THEIR TABLES. 06:13 AND YET, IT WAS THE ATTITUDE OF MANY IN THE CHURCH THEN 06:15 AS IT IS TODAY. 06:16 "WE'RE GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE. 06:18 WE'VE GOT THE TRUTH, LET'S FEAST." 06:19 AND ON THEIR WAY TO CHURCH, THEY WOULD WALK BY THIS POOR BEGGAR 06:23 WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN SATISFIED WITH THE CRUMBS THAT FELL FROM 06:26 THEIR TABLE. 06:27 AND THE ONLY COMFORT HE GOT WAS THE DOGS THAT CAME TO LICK THEIR 06:29 SORES. 06:30 YOU REMEMBER ONE TIME THE BIBLE TELLS A STORY ABOUT A GENTILE 06:34 WOMAN WHO CAME TO JESUS AND SAID, "PLEASE, 06:36 HEAL MY DAUGHTER." 06:38 AND HE SAID IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO TAKE THE CHILDREN'S FOOD 06:41 AND GIVE IT TO THE DOGS. 06:43 AND SHE SAID, "YES, BUT EVEN THE DOGS GET THE CRUMBS." 06:47 VERY SAME WORDS THAT WERE USED. 06:50 AND SO WHEN THEY DIE, SURPRISE OF SURPRISES, LAZARUS IS IN 06:58 ABRAHAM'S BOSOM WHERE EVERY JEW WANTED TO BE. 07:01 AND THE RICH MAN, HE'S WHERE HE THOUGHT THE GREEK CONCEPT OF 07:04 PUNISHMENT WAS GOING TO HADES, AND THERE'S THIS TREMENDOUS 07:08 REVERSAL OF ROLES. 07:13 AND SO THE RICH MAN IS SAYING, "FATHER ABRAHAM." 07:16 THE VERY FACT HE'S SAYING, "FATHER ABRAHAM" SHOWS THERE'S 07:17 A RELATIONSHIP, RIGHT? 07:19 IT'S A SYMBOL OF THE JEWISH NATION. 07:21 DIDN'T JESUS SAY OVER AND OVER, "MANY WILL COME FROM THE EAST 07:24 AND THE WEST AND SIT DOWN IN THE KINGDOM WITH ABRAHAM, 07:26 ISAAC AND JACOB?" 07:28 AND THE CHILDREN OF THE KINGDOM, THE CHURCH MEMBERS WHO AREN'T 07:31 SHARING THEIR FAITH, THEY'RE IN OUTER DARKNESS WHERE THERE'S 07:34 WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. 07:35 PEOPLE MISS THE REAL MESSAGE IS A VERY SOBERING MESSAGE. 07:40 GOD HAS GIVEN US SO MANY BLESSINGS IN THE TRUTH. 07:42 IN AMERICA HE'S GIVEN US SO MANY MATERIAL BLESSINGS AND SO MUCH 07:45 OF THE WORLD IS STRUGGLING AND STARVING FOR THE CRUMBS THAT 07:49 FALL FROM OUR TABLE. 07:50 AND THE LORD IS WARNING US THAT HE GIVES US THE BLESSINGS 07:53 WHETHER THEY'RE SPIRITUAL OR TANGIBLE TO SHARE, AMEN? 07:57 THAT'S THE MESSAGE. 07:58 HE'S NOT TELLING US PEOPLE IN HEAVEN AND HELL ARE GONNA TALK 08:00 TO EACH OTHER. 08:03 NOW OUR SUBJECT TODAY IS DEALING WITH THE SUBJECT OF HELL AND 08:07 THE PUNISHMENT OF THE WICKED. 08:09 THE BIBLE DOES TELL US IN 2 THESSALONIANS 08:11 THAT WHEN THE LORD COMES, THE WICKED ARE DESTROYED 08:15 BY THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING. 08:16 BUT THAT'S NOT HELL. 08:19 SOME PEOPLE HAVE FALSELY ACCUSED SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHRISTIANS 08:22 OF NOT BELIEVING IN HELL. 08:25 WE VERY MUCH BELIEVE IN WHAT PEOPLE CALL HELL OR 08:27 THE PUNISHMENT OF THE WICKED. 08:29 THERE IS A PLACE WHERE THE WICKED DO BURN. 08:31 WHERE THERE'S CONFUSION IS WHEN ARE THEY BURNING AND WHAT IT IS. 08:37 A LOT OF MYTHOLOGY HAS COME INTO THE CHURCH OVER THE YEARS 08:40 REGARDING THIS SUBJECT. 08:41 WELL, I'M GONNA GO TO QUESTION NUMBER ONE IN OUR STUDY, AND 08:44 I HOPE YOU'VE GOT YOUR PENCILS HANDY BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE 08:49 GONNA SEE A LOT OF REVERENCES AND I WANT YOU TO JOT THESE 08:51 DOWN. 08:53 WON'T BE ABLE TO COVER THEM ALL. 08:54 NUMBER ONE, DO PEOPLE DIE AND GO RIGHT TO HEAVEN OR HELL? 08:58 WHAT DOES IT SAY? 08:59 HOW MANY LOST SOULS ARE BURNING OR BEING PUNISHED IN HELL TODAY? 09:05 I BELIEVE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS, IF YOU LOOK IN 2 PETER 2:9 09:10 IT SAYS, "THE LORD KNOWS HOW TO DELIVER THE GODLY OUT OF 09:14 TEMPTATION AND TO RESERVE THE UNJUST TO THE DAY OF 09:19 JUDGMENT TO BE PUNISHED." 09:23 WHEN ARE THEY PUNISHED? 09:24 WHAT DID PETER SAY? 09:26 THE DAY OF JUDGMENT. 09:27 HAS THAT HAPPENED YET, THE GREAT JUDGMENT DAY? 09:30 NO. 09:31 THAT IS STILL IN THE FUTURE AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE PETER, 09:34 LISTEN TO WHAT JESUS SAYS IN JOHN 12:48, "THE WORD THAT 09:38 I HAVE SPOKEN, THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM IN THE LAST DAY." 09:43 WHEN? 09:44 THE LAST DAY. 09:45 ONE MORE TIME, QUESTION NUMBER TWO, "WHEN EXACTLY WILL SINNERS 09:51 BE CAST INTO HELLFIRE?" 09:54 HAS IT HAPPENED ALREADY? 09:56 HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW IN THE BIBLE IF YOU GO TO MARK 13 09:59 YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER PARABLE JESUS TOLD? 10:02 AND THESE PARABLES ARE THERE FOR TEACHING PRINCIPLES? 10:05 AND IT'S THE PARABLE OF THE WHEAT AND THE TARES AND HE TALKS 10:09 ABOUT THIS MAN WHO PLANTED GOOD WHEAT IN HIS FIELD AND AN ENEMY 10:13 CAME AND HE SOWED. 10:14 WEEDS, THAT'S WHAT TARES WERE, AND THEY WERE FINALLY SEPARATED 10:18 AT THE END. 10:20 AND JESUS THEN EXPLAINING THE PARABLE, AND YOU CAN'T 10:22 GET MIXED UP IF JESUS EXPLAINS THE PARABLE, AMEN? 10:26 SOMETIMES WE TRY TO TAKE THESE THINGS LITERALLY, 10:28 WE GET MIXED UP. 10:28 CHRIST EXPLAINS THE PARABLE AND LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS, 10:31 MATTHEW 13:40. 10:34 "AS THEREFORE THE TARES ARE GATHERED AND BURNED IN THE FIRE. 10:38 SO SHALL IT BE IN THE END OF THE WORLD." 10:44 WHEN? 10:45 SAY IT WITH ME, "THE END OF THE WORLD. 10:49 THE SON OF MAN SHALL SEND FORTH HIS ANGELS, AND THEY WILL GATHER 10:53 TOGETHER THEN WHICH DO INIQUITY AND THEY SHALL CAST THEM INTO 10:56 A FURNACE OF FIRE." 10:58 DOES THE BIBLE TEACH HELLFIRE? 11:00 YES. 11:01 ARE PEOPLE BURNING IN HELLFIRE NOW? 11:04 NO. 11:05 THERE ARE VERY FEW SUBJECTS IN WHICH THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS 11:09 MORE MIXED UP THAN THIS SUBJECT. 11:11 SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE GOT THIS IDEA THAT WAY DOWN YONDER 11:14 IS THIS CAVERNOUS PLACE CALLED HELL. 11:18 IT'S IN THE, YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF THE ANCIENTS, THEY COULD SEE 11:21 STEAM COMING OUT OF THE GROUND WHERE THERE FOR GEYSERS AND 11:24 EVERY NOW AND THEN A VOLCANO WOULD ERUPT NOT FAR FROM ROME, 11:27 IN FACT. 11:28 AND THE IDEA THAT THEY KNEW MOLTEN WAS DOWN INTO THE EARTH 11:31 SOMEWHERE AND THEY SAID THAT'S COMING UP FROM THE DEVIL. 11:34 AND NOT ONLY DID THEY HAVE THESE FABLES ABOUT HELL BEING 11:40 DOWN THERE SOMEWHERE, I MEAN, THE IDEA IS IF YOU'RE GOOD, 11:44 YOU GO IN THAT DIRECTION. 11:46 IF YOU'RE BAD, YOU GO THAT DIRECTION, RIGHT? 11:48 BUT THEIR IDEA ABOUT THE DEVIL HIMSELF, THAT HE'S IN CHARGE 11:52 OF HELL. 11:54 SO MANY MISCONCEPTIONS. 11:55 "WHERE ARE SINNERS-- WHO HAVE DIED--NOW?" 12:01 THE LOST WHO HAVE DIED, WHERE ARE THEY NOW? 12:05 THIS IS A BIG QUESTION. 12:06 JOHN 5:28-29, "THE HOUR IS COMING, IN WHICH ALL THAT ARE 12:12 IN THEIR GRAVES--" WHERE ARE THEY? 12:15 "IN THEIR GRAVES--" BY THE WAY, THESE ARE THE WORDS 12:18 OF JESUS. 12:18 IF YOU HAD A RED-LETTER EDITION BIBLE, I'D HAVE 'EM IN RED. 12:22 JESUS SAID THEY'RE IN THEIR GRAVES. 12:24 HE SAID IT IS COMING. 12:25 DOES HE SAY IT HAPPENED YET? 12:27 FUTURE TENSE, THEY WILL HEAR HIS VOICE. 12:29 JOB 21:30-32, "THE WICKED IS RESERVED 12:34 TO THE DAY OF DESTRUCTION. 12:37 YET, HE WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE GRAVE AND REMAIN 12:39 IN THE TOMB." 12:41 THEY'RE BEING HELD THERE. 12:43 THEY ARE RESERVED. 12:44 THEY'RE NOT BURNING IN HELL NOW. 12:47 I THINK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND. 12:51 YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN NEARLY DRIVEN INSANE? 12:54 I'M SURE SOME HAVE BEEN DRIVEN INSANE BY THE IDEA THAT SOME OF 12:57 THEIR LOVED ONES HAD DIED IN A LOST CONDITION, WENT RIGHT DOWN 13:02 TO THIS PLACE OF TORMENT. 13:05 AND MAYBE I SHOULD BACK UP AND REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ON WHAT THE 13:07 TRADITIONAL VIEW IS AMONG MANY CHRISTIANS REGARDING HELL. 13:11 MY FATHER WAS A BAPTIST. 13:13 FIRST TIME I WAS BAPTIZED, IT WAS BAPTISTS THAT BAPTIZED ME, 13:17 AND I KNOW OF WHAT I SPEAK. 13:19 THE IDEA WAS THAT IF YOU DIE, YOU GO DOWN TO HELL AND WHAT 13:24 HELL IS, IT IS PLACE OF BURNING SULFUR AND BRIMSTONE WHERE YOU 13:28 BURN THERE IN BODILY FORM AND SOUL FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER. 13:36 AND SOME OF THE ANCIENT PREACHERS WOULD WAX VERY 13:38 ELOQUENT IN DESCRIBING THE MISERIES OF HELL, AND THEY'D 13:43 TALK ABOUT FOLKS WHO ARE SWIMMING THROUGH THE MOLTEN 13:46 FIRE, BLISTERING AND SCREECHING IN AGONY, AND THEY WOULD SWIM TO 13:50 THE SURFACE AND MANAGE TO GET THEIR HEADS JUST ABOVE 13:53 THE BUBBLING, MOLTEN BRIMSTONE. 13:55 AND THEY'D CALL OUT, "LORD, HOW LONG?" 13:57 AND HE'D SAY, "YOU'VE ONLY JUST BEGUN." 14:00 AND A MILLION YEARS LATER, THEY'D COME BACK UP 14:02 AND ASK AGAIN. 14:02 HE'D SAY, "YOU'VE ONLY JUST BEGUN." 14:05 TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE IMAGES. 14:10 AND NOW PICTURE THAT AND THEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE YOU LOVE 14:14 WHO DIES IN APPARENTLY A LOST CONDITION. 14:18 THAT COULD REALLY BE DISTURBING. 14:23 IT SHOULD BE COMFORTING TO PEOPLE TO KNOW, SAVED OR LOST, 14:26 THEY'RE ASLEEP RIGHT NOW. 14:29 THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES. 14:31 QUESTION NUMBER FOUR, "WHAT IS THE END RESULT OF SIN?" 14:37 NOW THESE TWO SUBJECTS ON DEATH AND THE PUNISHMENT OF THE WICKED 14:41 GO HAND IN HAND. 14:42 I TALKED ABOUT DEATH LAST NIGHT. 14:43 JAMES 1:15, "SIN, WHEN IT IS FINISHED IT BRINGS FORTH," WHAT? 14:50 "DEATH." 14:51 THE RESULT OF SIN IS DEATH. 14:54 YET SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT THE LOST GO TO HELL AND THEY 14:57 BURN THROUGH CEASELESS AGES. 14:59 THINK ABOUT HOW LONG THAT IS, A ZILLION YEARS THEORETICALLY, 15:02 STILL SCREAMING IN AGONY, YOU JUST BEGAN. 15:06 CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT? 15:09 IT'S MIND BOGGLING WHEN YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. 15:11 IT JUST SHOULD MAKE YOU SHUTTER. 15:12 YOU KNOW, I GET EXCITED ABOUT THIS SUBJECT ALMOST MORE THAN 15:14 ELSE I'M GONNA BE PRESENTING, EXCEPT FOR TOMORROW NIGHT'S 15:17 SUBJECT, SO YOU WANT TO COME BACK. 15:20 BECAUSE BEFORE--I WAS NOT RAISED A CHRISTIAN. 15:24 I DID GO TO SOME CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS. 15:28 AND WHEN I HEARD THESE THINGS TAUGHT IN THOSE SCHOOLS, I 15:32 THOUGHT TO MYSELF, GOD IS CRUEL. 15:35 GOD IS SADISTIC. 15:37 I'M EMBARRASSED TO TELL YOU THAT. 15:39 I DON'T WANT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL OR BLASPHEMOUS, BUT THESE ARE 15:41 THOUGHTS THAT I HAD. 15:42 I THOUGHT HOW CAN THAT BE JUST TO TAKE THESE CREATURES THAT 15:46 ARE ALL BORN WITH THIS NATURAL PROPENSITY TO SIN? 15:50 LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS, ANYBODY HERE YOU DON'T HAVE A NATURAL 15:52 PROPENSITY TO SIN? 15:54 OKAY, THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS TOO. 15:57 WE'RE ALL DESPERATELY WICKED. 15:58 MAN, JOB SAYS WE ARE PRONE TO GET INTO TROUBLE LIKE SPARKS 16:01 GO UP. 16:03 IT'S JUST IN OUR NATURES. 16:04 SO WE'RE BORN WITH THIS NATURAL PROPENSITY TO SIN AND THEN GOD 16:07 IS GONNA TAKE THESE CREATURES WHO, FOR WHATEVER REASON, DO NOT 16:10 CAPITALIZE ON HIS GRACE AND THEN TORTURE THEM THROUGH ETERNITY. 16:14 AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, HE'S MEAN. 16:17 HE'S CRUEL. 16:18 HE'S A SADIST. 16:19 I HATED GOD. 16:21 AND WHEN I FINALLY GOT THAT BIBLE UP IN THE CAVE AND I 16:23 STARTED READING, I WAS GETTING A WHOLE DIFFERENT PICTURE GOING 16:26 THROUGH THE BIBLE THAN WHAT I WAS HEARING PASTORS SAY. 16:29 AND IT WAS LIBERATING TO ME TO FIND OUT GOD IS LOVE, THAT IT IS 16:34 A BEAUTIFUL TRUTH, THAT THE REASON I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT 16:37 THIS SUBJECT IS BECAUSE IT IS DEFAMATION TO THE CHARACTER 16:42 OF GOD TO TEACH THIS FALSE DOCTRINE. 16:45 AND A LOT OF CHURCHES AND PASTORS THROUGH HISTORY 16:48 HAVE USED IT TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE THROUGH FEAR INSTEAD OF 16:53 THE MOTIVE THAT JESUS USED WHICH WAS LOVE. 16:56 IT IS A FALSE TEACHING THAT IS USED TO ABUSE PEOPLE. 17:01 JOHN 3:16, THERE ARE TWO CHOICES. 17:06 JESUS SAID, "THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM 17:09 SHOULD NOT PERISH." 17:11 ONE OF YOUR OPTIONS IS WHAT? 17:13 PERISH. 17:15 "BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE." 17:17 HE DIDN'T SAY YOU CAN CHOOSE BETWEEN EVERLASTING LIFE AND 17:19 THE FIRE AND EVERLASTING LIFE AND HEAVEN, DID HE? 17:22 YOU GOT EVERLASTING LIFE OR PERISH AND IN THE GARDEN 17:26 OF EDEN, WHAT DID GOD SAY TO ADAM AND EVE? 17:29 YOU WILL DIE IF YOU DISOBEY. 17:31 ROMANS 6:23, "THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH, BUT THE GIFT OF GOD 17:38 IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD." 17:41 WE GOT TWO CHOICES, FRIENDS. 17:43 MOSES, HE SAID, "I SAID BEFORE YOU THIS DAY LIFE AND GOOD 17:46 AND BLESSINGS OR DEATH AND EVIL AND CURSINGS. 17:48 IT'S NOT ETERNAL LIFE IN THE FIRE, ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN. 17:50 AND YOU HAVE ALL HEARD PEOPLE MAKE FUN OF EVEN THE TEACHING 17:54 OF HELL. 17:55 SOME PEOPLE SAY, "YOU KNOW, I GOT TWO CHOICES. 17:58 I CAN GO TO HEAVEN SIT ON A HARP AND--" SIT ON A CLOUD, SORRY. 18:02 SIT ON A HARP, THAT'D HURT. 18:04 I CAN GO TO HEAVEN, SIT ON A CLOUD AND PLAY A HARP AND, 18:08 YOU KNOW, BE THIS CHUBBY, LITTLE, FAT, NAKED BABY. 18:12 AND PEOPLE GOT THESE MIXED UP. 18:13 OR YOU CAN GO PARTY IN HELL, AND IT ALMOST MAKES HELL SOUND 18:16 LIKE IT'S WHERE ALL THE WICKED PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE. 18:18 OH, THAT'S GONNA FUN. 18:20 YOU'VE HEARD THESE CARTOON ANALOGIES BEING MADE. 18:24 AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU'VE GOT TWO CHOICES, 18:27 LIFE AND DEATH. 18:29 BUT EVERYBODY DOES SUFFER FOR THEIR SINS THAT ARE NOT FORGIVEN 18:33 AND COVERED BY JESUS. 18:35 THERE IS PUNISHMENT. 18:36 WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE. 18:37 THAT'S WHY GOD SAID TO ADAM AND EVE, IF THEY DISOBEY THAT 18:41 THEY WOULD DIE AND FURTHERMORE, THEY WERE EVICTED FROM 18:44 THE GARDEN OF EDEN. 18:45 GENESIS 3:22 GOD SAID, LEST MAN PUTS OUT HIS HAND AND TAKES FROM 18:50 THE TREE OF LIFE AND EAT AND, DOES WHAT? 18:53 LIVES FOREVER. 18:54 NOW I'LL TELL YOU WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. 18:58 WHEN JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH ME THAT HE 19:02 DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD AND HE TOOK THE PENALTY FOR 19:06 THE SIN? 19:08 OF EVERY SIN YOU'VE EVER COMMITTED, HE TOOK THAT PENALTY. 19:11 HOW MANY AGREE WITH THAT? 19:12 ALL RIGHT. 19:13 IF THE TEACHING OF EVERLASTING HELLFIRE IS TRUE, HOW LONG DID 19:19 JESUS STAY ON THE CROSS? 19:22 SEVEN HOURS ON THE CROSS, TWO NIGHTS IN THE TOMB AND HE ROSE. 19:30 IF THE PENALTY FOR SIN IS EVERLASTING TORMENT IN SULFUR 19:34 AND BRIMSTONE, HOW COULD JESUS SAY THAT HE TOOK EVERLASTING 19:38 PUNISHMENT? 19:40 NO, THE PENALTY FOR SIN IS DEATH. 19:42 DID HE DIE? 19:44 HE SUFFERED AND HE DIED, AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE REWARD 19:46 OF THE LOST. 19:47 THEY WILL SUFFER FOR THEIR SINS AND THEN THEY'LL DIE. 19:50 LET'S GET TO SOME OTHER QUESTIONS. 19:52 I GOT SO MUCH TO COVER. 19:53 NUMBER FIVE, "WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE WICKED IN HELLFIRE?" 19:57 ANSWER, PSALM 37:10. 19:59 GET YOUR PENCIL, I GOT SO MANY SCRIPTURES. 20:02 "FOR YET A LITTLE WHILE AND THE WICKED SHALL NOT BE." 20:05 WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THE WICKED? 20:06 DOESN'T SAY THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE DIRECTIONS OR THEY'RE GONNA 20:09 METAMORPHOSIS OR THEY'RE GONNA BE A NEW BODY OR--IT SAYS 20:13 THEY'LL NOT BE ANYMORE. 20:16 THE WICKED WILL PERISH. 20:19 INTO SMOKE THEY WILL CONSUME AWAY. 20:22 LOOK AT THE WORDS GOD IS USING REGARDING THE WICKED, "PERISH, 20:24 CONSUME, NOT BE ANYMORE." 20:28 IT'S SO CLEAR. 20:30 MALACHI 4:1-3, "THE DAY COMES THAT WILL BURN AS AN OVEN," 20:35 TALKING ABOUT THAT GREAT JUDGMENT DAY JESUS SPOKE OF. 20:37 AND ALL THAT DO WICKEDLY. 20:39 HOW MANY OF THE WICKED? 20:40 THIS IS THE UNIVERSAL PUNISHMENT OF THE WICKED. 20:42 "ALL THAT DO WICKEDLY SHALL BE STUBBLE: AND THE DAY THAT COMES 20:46 WILL BURN THEM UP. 20:48 AND YOU WILL TREAD DOWN THE WICKED; FOR THEY WILL BE ASHES 20:51 UNDER THE SOLES OF YOUR FEET." 20:54 THE WICKED ARE GOING TO BE DESTROYED. 20:56 THEY'RE GONNA BE BURNT UP. 20:56 THEY'RE GONNA BE ASHES. 20:58 THEY'RE NOT GOING TO EXIST ANYMORE. 21:00 YOU KNOW SOME OF YOU KNOW THE STORY OF POMPEII. 21:03 I HAVE BEEN TO THE ANCIENT CITY OF POMPEII. 21:08 IT'S RIGHT THERE NEAR THE BASE OF MOUNT VESUVIUS. 21:11 IT'S INTERESTING I WAS JUST CHATTING WITH SOMEONE TONIGHT 21:14 AND TALKING ABOUT THROUGH HISTORY, YOU CAN SEE A NUMBER OF 21:16 CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DESTROYED FOR THEIR WICKEDNESS. 21:19 SODOM AND GOMORRAH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE. 21:21 YOU'VE GOT, WHAT DID I SAY LAST NIGHT? 21:25 PORT ROYALE WAS CALLED THE WICKEDEST CITY IN THE WORLD. 21:29 YOU'VE GOT SODOM AND GOMORRAH. 21:31 YOU'VE GOT POMPEII. 21:33 THE LISBON EARTHQUAKE THAT TOOK PLACE, SAN FRANCISCO EARTHQUAKE. 21:38 PEOPLE SAID IT WAS ONE OF THE WICKEDEST CITIES. 21:40 IT WAS LIKE A BIG BORDELLO BACK WHEN THE EARTHQUAKE HIT. 21:43 MOUNT VESUVIUS EXPLODED. 21:46 THE PEOPLE IN POMPEII WERE COVERED WITH ASH, 21:50 AND THEY WERE DESTROYED. 21:52 A LITTLE AMAZING FACT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU, THE ROMAN SOLDIERS 21:55 THAT--THE LEGION OF SOLDIERS THAT LED OUT IN THE DESTRUCTION 21:59 OF JERUSALEM AND THE TEMPLE WERE LATER VACATIONING IN POMPEII 22:06 WHEN THE MOUNTAIN BLEW UP AND MANY OF THEM WERE KILLED BECAUSE 22:09 THEY WERE TOLD TO MAINTAIN THEIR POST. 22:11 REVELATION 21:8, "THE FEARFUL AND THE UNBELIEVING, AND THE 22:16 ABOMINABLE, AND THE MURDERERS, AND THE WHOREMONGERS, AND THE 22:19 SORCERERS, AND THE IDOLATERS, AND ALL LIARS--WILL HAVE 22:24 THEIR PART IN THE LAKE THAT BURNS WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE: 22:27 WHICH IS THE SECOND--" WHAT? 22:29 "DEATH." 22:30 IS THERE HELLFIRE? 22:32 YES. 22:32 ARE THE WICKED GOING TO BURN IN HELL? 22:34 YES. 22:34 BUT IT SAYS THEY'RE CONSUMED. 22:36 THEY'RE BURNT UP. 22:36 THEY'LL NOT BE. 22:38 IT IS A DEATH. 22:39 IT'S NOT JUST THE FIRST DEATH THAT EVERYBODY DIES, THIS IS THE 22:41 SECOND DEATH FROM WHICH THERE IS NO RESURRECTION. 22:46 I HEARD A PASTOR SAY ONE TIME, "IF YOU'RE ONLY BORN ONCE, 22:51 YOU'RE GONNA DIE TWICE." 22:53 EVERYBODY'S BORN ONCE, RIGHT? 22:55 "BUT IF YOU'RE BORN TWICE, YOU ONLY DIE ONCE." 22:59 NOT JUST THE NATURAL BIRTH, YOU NEED THE SPIRITUAL BIRTH TOO. 23:02 NUMBER SIX, "WHERE, AND HOW WILL HELLFIRE BE KINDLED?" 23:09 ANSWER IS REVELATION 20:9, AT THE END OF THE WORLD, IT'S 23:12 TALKING ABOUT WHEN SATAN GATHERS ALL THE WICKED TO ASSAULT THE 23:16 CITY OF GOD, THE NEW JERUSALEM. 23:18 AND THEY GO UP ON THE BREADTH OF THE EARTH, AND THEY ENCOMPASSED, 23:21 THEY SURROUND "THE CAMP OF THE SAINTS, THE BELOVED CITY: AND 23:25 FIRE COMES DOWN FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN, AND DEVOURS THEM." 23:31 SO TO START WITH THE FIRST PART IS HELL DOWN UNDER THE EARTH 23:36 SOMEWHERE OR IS THAT LAKE OF FIRE GOING TO BE ON THE EARTH? 23:41 GOD RAINS FIRE DOWN OUT OF HEAVEN UPON THE EARTH, SAME WAY 23:45 IT HAPPENED BACK IN THE DAYS OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH. 23:49 PROVERBS 11:31, THE RIGHTEOUS SHALL BE RECOMPENSED IN 23:53 THE EARTH, MUCH MORE THE WICKED AND THE SINNER." 23:57 HELL IS NOT ANOTHER SOLAR SYSTEM. 24:00 HELL IS GONNA BURN IN LANSING, MICHIGAN AMONG OTHER PLACES, 24:04 ALL OVER THE PLANET. 24:07 THE LORD IS GONNA BAPTIZE THE WORLD IN FIRE. 24:10 2 PETER 3 TELLS THAT. 24:12 SEE, THE BIBLE SAYS, UNLESS YOU'RE BORN OF THE WATER AND OF 24:17 THE FIRE, YOU CANNOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24:21 YOU MUST BE BORN OF THE SPIRIT AND BORN OF THE WATER OR YOU 24:24 CANNOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24:27 THAT'S TALKING ABOUT BEING BAPTIZED IN THE SPIRIT, BEING 24:30 BAPTIZED IN WATER BAPTISM. 24:32 THE WORLD WAS BAPTIZED IN WATER IN THE DAYS OF NOAH, IT WILL BE 24:36 BAPTIZED IN FIRE WHEN JESUS COMES AGAIN AND THEN HE MAKES 24:38 A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH. 24:40 WHEN GOD ASKS THE DEVIL IN THE BOOK OF JOB, 24:43 "WHERE DID YOU COME FROM?" 24:44 HE SAID, "I CAME FROM THE EARTH WALKING TO-AND-FRO ON IT," 24:48 NOT UNDERNEATH THE GROUND. 24:50 HE DOESN'T HAVE A HEADQUARTERS DOWN IN 24:52 CARLSBAD CAVERN SOMEWHERE. 24:55 >> STAY TUNED, PASTOR DOUG WILL BE RIGHT BACK WITH THIS WEEK'S 24:57 SPECIAL FREE OFFER. 25:02 >> IS HELL DOWN UNDER THE EARTH SOMEWHERE OR IS THAT LAKE OF 25:05 FIRE GOING TO BE ON THE EARTH? 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