male announcer: This presentation is brought to you 00:00:02.36\00:00:03.77 by the friends of the Amazing Facts ministry. 00:00:03.90\00:00:06.47 Coming to you from New York City at the historic Manhattan 00:00:07.04\00:00:10.84 Center, with your host Doug Batchelor. 00:00:10.87\00:00:13.81 Join this exciting journey of discovery as we learn the truth 00:00:13.84\00:00:17.61 about Bible prophecy, explore the timeless wisdom of God's 00:00:17.65\00:00:21.92 Word, and see how it relates to our lives today. 00:00:21.95\00:00:25.72 Stay tuned, your "Amazing Facts" adventure begins now. 00:00:25.75\00:00:30.69 Doug Batchelor : From the beginning of the Bible to the 00:00:31.53\00:00:34.10 end of the Bible, it talks about two destinations, two destinies: 00:00:34.13\00:00:40.74 the saved and the lost. 00:00:40.77\00:00:42.84 We talked about Christ and the devil, good and evil, light 00:00:42.87\00:00:47.94 and darkness. 00:00:47.98\00:00:49.28 Jesus said, "If you're not with me, you're against me." 00:00:49.31\00:00:51.71 There are two roads, there are two faiths. 00:00:51.75\00:00:56.02 You want to be on the winning team, am I right? 00:00:56.05\00:00:59.49 Now I don't want you to hyper focus on the losing team, but we 00:00:59.52\00:01:02.72 need to understand because not understanding this affects what 00:01:02.76\00:01:06.83 you believe about the reward and the rewarder, and that's why 00:01:06.86\00:01:12.73 this subject is such an important subject in our 00:01:12.77\00:01:15.34 study tonight. 00:01:15.37\00:01:17.14 You know, I always like to begin with an amazing fact. 00:01:17.17\00:01:20.41 A couple of years ago, Karen and I, with some friends from the 00:01:20.44\00:01:24.25 Amazing Facts board, we went to Italy and we visited the city 00:01:24.28\00:01:28.98 of Pompeii. 00:01:29.02\00:01:30.82 It was my second time; first time I went, I was 16 years old. 00:01:30.85\00:01:34.99 I was living on a sailboat in the Mediterranean, and they've 00:01:35.02\00:01:38.86 done a lot more excavation, I've found, since then. 00:01:38.89\00:01:42.03 You probably have heard the story about the cities of 00:01:42.06\00:01:45.37 Pompeii and Herculaneum, that they're at the base of Mount 00:01:45.40\00:01:48.50 Vesuvius, a massive volcano in the background. 00:01:48.54\00:01:52.74 And even from 62 A.D. 00:01:52.77\00:01:56.44 they started noticing that the ground would occasionally 00:01:56.48\00:01:59.38 rumble, and they'd have these earthquakes, and they seemed to 00:01:59.41\00:02:03.82 be having signs that there was some growing activity and 00:02:03.85\00:02:06.96 swelling on the mountain. 00:02:06.99\00:02:08.76 For the next 17 years, the signs continued to mount and increase, 00:02:08.79\00:02:14.56 but the people in these cities, they didn't seem to worry too 00:02:14.56\00:02:17.67 much about it. 00:02:17.70\00:02:19.00 Now, Pompeii and Herculaneum, Pompeii in particular, they were 00:02:19.03\00:02:23.74 something like the Las Vegas of the Roman Empire. 00:02:23.77\00:02:28.64 In fact, a lot of the soldiers would go there after they served 00:02:28.68\00:02:31.75 their term for R&R. 00:02:31.78\00:02:33.55 It was something of a reward. 00:02:33.58\00:02:36.15 And so during this 17 years of time, the volcano tremors 00:02:36.18\00:02:42.26 increased, some of the--even springs dried up. 00:02:42.29\00:02:44.26 They knew there was a lot of seismic activity, but life went 00:02:44.29\00:02:47.60 on day after day, people were just pre-absorbed in their fun, 00:02:47.66\00:02:52.67 their hedonism, pursuit of pleasure, and then the whole 00:02:52.70\00:02:57.24 thing blew. 00:02:57.27\00:02:58.81 In 79 A.D. 00:02:58.84\00:03:00.41 there was a massive eruption that buried both of the cities 00:03:00.44\00:03:04.05 in ash and pumice, and some that were not killed right away, were 00:03:04.08\00:03:07.72 killed by the pyroclastic cloud of superheated gasses that came 00:03:07.75\00:03:11.72 rolling down the mountain like a tsunami, and they were scorched 00:03:11.75\00:03:15.82 alive the first time they inhaled it. 00:03:15.86\00:03:18.73 Well, years later, about 1748, 1,600 years later, they did some 00:03:18.76\00:03:26.40 excavations and they started to find the ruins buried under all 00:03:26.43\00:03:29.37 of this ash. 00:03:29.40\00:03:30.97 And they noticed that they kept running into these cavities in 00:03:31.01\00:03:34.21 the ash, and someone said, "You know, there was probably 00:03:34.24\00:03:37.01 something there." 00:03:37.05\00:03:38.35 And so they poured the "Plaster of Paris" into these cavities 00:03:38.38\00:03:42.08 and they found the grizzly truth, that these were the 00:03:42.12\00:03:46.45 hollowed out spaces where people had been. 00:03:46.49\00:03:49.82 Their bodies had decomposed other than the bones, and they 00:03:49.86\00:03:53.19 were able to see people all around the city, thousands had 00:03:53.23\00:03:56.67 died in the very positions, in their final writhing deaths, 00:03:56.70\00:04:02.97 that the disaster caught them. 00:04:03.00\00:04:07.24 It makes us think about another terrible destruction that came 00:04:07.28\00:04:11.91 that the Bible speaks of. 00:04:11.95\00:04:13.88 By the way, just a little side note you may want to 00:04:13.92\00:04:17.32 think about. 00:04:17.35\00:04:18.85 Jerusalem had been destroyed by the armies of Titus in 70 B.C. 00:04:18.89\00:04:26.49 I heard one historian say that hypothetically based on the time 00:04:26.53\00:04:29.66 that they served, many of the soldiers that were involved in 00:04:29.70\00:04:32.90 the destruction of Jerusalem could have been vacationing at 00:04:32.93\00:04:36.14 Pompeii when the city was destroyed. 00:04:36.17\00:04:40.51 Well, Bible kind of compares this to the destruction of 00:04:40.54\00:04:44.78 the wicked. 00:04:44.81\00:04:46.25 And we're going to go find out what do the people on the 00:04:46.28\00:04:48.88 streets have to say about this subject of hell and the 00:04:48.92\00:04:53.79 punishment of the law. 00:04:53.82\00:04:55.16 So let's roll that right now. 00:04:55.19\00:04:56.52 male: I think the purpose of hell is just to let people know 00:04:57.23\00:05:01.03 that there's negative repercussions for things that 00:05:01.06\00:05:05.33 you do in this world, whether you get punished for it right 00:05:05.37\00:05:10.31 away, like it is coming later on. 00:05:10.34\00:05:12.57 So, like, it's a belief system within yourself to be like, 00:05:12.61\00:05:15.31 "Okay, I'm doing something wrong. 00:05:15.34\00:05:18.01 Nobody could see me, but there's a thing coming later on in the 00:05:18.05\00:05:21.35 future that will punish me. 00:05:21.38\00:05:23.92 So let me," you know, "watch myself and know that God's 00:05:23.95\00:05:26.45 watching me and," you know, "live a good life." 00:05:26.49\00:05:29.89 female: To scare people away from doing bad things. 00:05:29.92\00:05:32.83 male: The absence of God is hell, and that can be here, that 00:05:32.86\00:05:36.10 can be the afterlife, it can be anywhere. 00:05:36.13\00:05:38.27 female: In Christianity specifically, I would say it's 00:05:38.30\00:05:42.70 just, I think there's a lot of fear mongering around it, but I 00:05:42.74\00:05:45.24 think it's also just, I think it's really supposed to be like 00:05:45.27\00:05:46.98 a place without God. 00:05:47.01\00:05:48.31 I don't think there's a--I think a lot of the talk about it is 00:05:48.34\00:05:50.58 not exactly what the book says, you know? 00:05:50.61\00:05:53.05 male: To ensure that you make decisions that are going to be, 00:05:53.08\00:05:58.42 that are not going to negatively impact the people around you. 00:05:58.45\00:06:02.29 female: Hell represents a very hot place from my 00:06:02.32\00:06:04.03 religious background. 00:06:04.06\00:06:05.63 male: A place for non-believers that, you know, you go after you 00:06:05.66\00:06:09.43 die if you like, have not done enough good deeds within 00:06:09.46\00:06:13.23 your lifetime. 00:06:13.27\00:06:16.37 male: I think it's a place where like the most evil and wretched 00:06:16.40\00:06:19.51 people go. 00:06:19.54\00:06:20.88 male: In the Bible it describes hell as, like, a place where 00:06:20.91\00:06:24.25 non-followers of Christ go. 00:06:24.28\00:06:26.25 female: I believe hell is a place where all the bad people 00:06:26.28\00:06:29.45 go in the end. 00:06:29.48\00:06:30.79 male: I feel like we're living in hell. 00:06:30.82\00:06:32.72 I feel like this is hell right here and heaven is like a place 00:06:32.75\00:06:35.39 you'll be at peace. 00:06:35.42\00:06:36.83 female: I don't believe in hell. 00:06:36.86\00:06:38.96 male: According to the Word of God, there's a lake of fire, 00:06:38.99\00:06:42.46 it's eternal. 00:06:42.50\00:06:44.50 male: I think that hell doesn't exist. 00:06:44.53\00:06:48.47 male: I think hell is everlasting. 00:06:48.50\00:06:51.87 Depends on how you spend your life here. 00:06:51.91\00:06:56.51 male: I don't think hell is just straight fire. 00:06:56.54\00:06:58.11 There might be some fire in there, but I don't feel like 00:06:58.15\00:07:00.12 it's like that. 00:07:00.15\00:07:01.48 But there is some type of torture there for sure. 00:07:01.52\00:07:02.92 male: I think hell is definitely a place. 00:07:02.95\00:07:05.52 male: Oh yeah, spiritually, yes, it's on fire. 00:07:05.55\00:07:08.56 I wouldn't want to go there. 00:07:08.59\00:07:09.92 male: Yes, this is a place of fire where you suffer all 00:07:09.96\00:07:13.36 for eternity. 00:07:13.40\00:07:14.76 female: I feel like what hell truly is, is your own 00:07:14.83\00:07:21.24 perspective of your own reality of life. 00:07:21.27\00:07:23.74 Doug: Well, that's interesting. 00:07:25.41\00:07:26.74 You know, I actually found that in the answers from the people 00:07:26.78\00:07:30.05 on the street, there's a little more unity on this subject than 00:07:30.08\00:07:32.65 some of the others. 00:07:32.68\00:07:34.42 You know it's interesting, is virtually every religion in the 00:07:34.45\00:07:36.89 world believes that there is some kind of reward. 00:07:36.92\00:07:39.55 Even those that believe in reincarnation think if you live 00:07:39.59\00:07:42.76 a bad life, you're going to come back as, you know, something 00:07:42.79\00:07:45.56 else, a crocodile or who knows. 00:07:45.59\00:07:47.50 But you live a good life, there's a reward. 00:07:47.56\00:07:51.07 And almost all religions understand that there are 00:07:51.10\00:07:53.84 consequences for the way that you choose to live your life. 00:07:53.87\00:07:58.71 But where do we get our answers? 00:07:58.74\00:08:01.21 Interviewing people on the street or is the Word of God the 00:08:01.24\00:08:04.05 final arbiter? 00:08:04.08\00:08:05.88 We're going to find out what does the Bible say on 00:08:05.91\00:08:07.95 this subject. 00:08:07.98\00:08:10.15 There's a lot of misunderstandings on the subject 00:08:10.19\00:08:12.49 of hell. 00:08:12.52\00:08:13.86 First of all, question number one, we're going to go using our 00:08:13.89\00:08:15.52 question answer method. 00:08:15.56\00:08:16.89 You've got your lessons. This is lesson number five. 00:08:16.93\00:08:19.56 What two cities mentioned in the Bible that are sort of infamous, 00:08:19.59\00:08:23.57 are given as an example of the destruction of the wicked? 00:08:23.60\00:08:28.74 You can read in 2 Peter 2, verse 6, and don't forget, you can 00:08:28.77\00:08:32.07 call out the answers there in the light blue color with me. 00:08:32.11\00:08:35.74 "And turning the cities of SODOM and GOMORRAH into ashes, [God] 00:08:35.78\00:08:42.58 condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those 00:08:42.62\00:08:47.86 who afterward would live ungodly." 00:08:47.89\00:08:51.59 So if we want to know what is going to happen to the wicked, 00:08:51.63\00:08:54.30 God said, "Well, what you saw happen to Sodom and Gomorrah, 00:08:54.30\00:08:57.67 they were burnt, they were burnt up." 00:08:57.70\00:09:00.64 And you can read here in Jude chapter 1, verse 7, "Sodom and 00:09:00.67\00:09:04.24 Gomorrah, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance 00:09:04.27\00:09:08.21 of eternal FIRE." 00:09:08.24\00:09:10.48 Eternal fire meaning that the results of the fire are eternal. 00:09:10.51\00:09:14.55 You're looking at just a Google Earth map there that shows an 00:09:14.58\00:09:18.32 area where archaeologists believe approximately that 00:09:18.35\00:09:22.39 Sodom was. 00:09:22.42\00:09:23.73 Now, in case you don't know, the Bible describes this if you go 00:09:23.76\00:09:27.10 to Genesis chapter 19, it tells us that Lot and Abraham 00:09:27.13\00:09:32.03 were related. 00:09:32.07\00:09:33.37 Lot was the nephew of Abraham, and they had so many cattle, the 00:09:33.40\00:09:37.61 shepherds were fighting, and they needed to separate to keep 00:09:37.64\00:09:40.64 peace in the family. 00:09:40.68\00:09:42.18 And Lot cast his eyes towards Sodom because it was watered 00:09:42.21\00:09:47.78 like the garden of God. 00:09:47.82\00:09:49.22 It was like the Garden of Eden. 00:09:49.25\00:09:50.59 It was lush, it was tropical. 00:09:50.62\00:09:52.09 There was an abundance of vegetation for the animals. 00:09:52.12\00:09:55.62 And he thought, "You know, I think my flocks will really grow 00:09:55.66\00:09:57.73 down there and things will really prosper." 00:09:57.76\00:09:59.23 And his wife said, "You know, they got really good malls in 00:09:59.26\00:10:01.76 Sodom," and who knows? 00:10:01.80\00:10:04.33 But anyway, they moved down there. 00:10:04.37\00:10:06.33 But the Bible goes on to say that was not a wise decision 00:10:06.37\00:10:09.17 because the men of Sodom were sinners before the 00:10:09.20\00:10:12.31 Lord exceedingly. 00:10:12.34\00:10:14.44 Now some people are shocked to find out that the Bible says, 00:10:14.48\00:10:17.08 before God punished Sodom and Gomorrah, God saved Sodom 00:10:17.11\00:10:19.51 and Gomorrah. 00:10:19.55\00:10:21.58 Did you know that before their great judgment day came, five 00:10:21.62\00:10:25.95 kings from the north, led by an Assyrian named Chedorlaomer, 00:10:25.99\00:10:30.03 they had a confederacy. 00:10:30.06\00:10:31.29 They came down and they attacked the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah, 00:10:31.33\00:10:34.23 and four of the other cities of the plain. 00:10:34.30\00:10:36.50 And they conquered them and they carried them all away captive, 00:10:36.53\00:10:38.83 and Lot and his family were carried away in the destruction. 00:10:38.87\00:10:42.44 It was a judgment to get their attention, to turn them to 00:10:42.47\00:10:45.54 repentance because God wants everyone to be saved. 00:10:45.57\00:10:48.81 And Abraham came together with some of the other mighty 00:10:48.84\00:10:51.91 sheikhs, and they went and they delivered them. 00:10:51.95\00:10:54.98 They got their soldiers, you know, Abraham had an army of 300 00:10:55.02\00:10:58.32 men, over 300. 00:10:58.35\00:11:00.89 And they delivered them, they conquered these other kings, and 00:11:00.92\00:11:03.56 they rescued all the people from Sodom and Gomorrah. 00:11:03.59\00:11:06.83 They had been saved. 00:11:06.86\00:11:08.66 And God was hoping they'd change their ways, but they didn't. 00:11:08.70\00:11:12.57 They went back to the old ways and got even worse. 00:11:12.60\00:11:16.30 And it got so bad that even when God sent angels to rescue Lot 00:11:16.34\00:11:19.87 and his family from Sodom, that the people in the city wanted to 00:11:19.91\00:11:23.45 abuse the angels. 00:11:23.48\00:11:25.78 And finally God said, "Flee lest you be consumed, flee from the 00:11:25.81\00:11:32.02 wrath to come." 00:11:32.05\00:11:34.39 And he said, "Don't even look back." 00:11:34.42\00:11:38.19 And the angels took Lot and his daughters and his wife by the 00:11:38.23\00:11:45.20 hand, and basically had to pull them out of the city. 00:11:45.23\00:11:48.84 And then God reigned upon Sodom and Gomorrah fire and brimstone 00:11:48.87\00:11:52.37 out of heaven. 00:11:52.41\00:11:53.74 Abraham could look from the mountains of Hebron towards the 00:11:53.78\00:11:56.41 plain of Sodom, by the way, it's the lowest place on the planet, 00:11:56.44\00:11:59.28 did you know that? 00:11:59.31\00:12:00.72 1,300 feet below sea level, the Jordan Valley. 00:12:00.75\00:12:04.62 And it says the smoke of the place went up like a furnace. 00:12:04.65\00:12:09.26 Karen and I, you probably just heard in the news a few weeks 00:12:09.29\00:12:12.29 ago, we had a fire up near Orville, California. 00:12:12.33\00:12:16.97 And Karen and I were coming down the road and we could see it 00:12:17.00\00:12:19.47 from a distance and it looked like a nuclear explosion. 00:12:19.50\00:12:23.20 This campfire was so big, big mushroom cloud. 00:12:23.24\00:12:26.64 And God destroyed these cities of the plain with fire from 00:12:26.68\00:12:30.68 before the Lord. 00:12:30.71\00:12:32.25 And the Bible tells us that God is going to ultimately make a 00:12:32.28\00:12:35.38 new heaven and new earth, but I want to show you something. 00:12:35.42\00:12:37.95 I'm going to bring Karen out here. 00:12:37.99\00:12:39.29 I want something a little unique that I want to demonstrate. 00:12:39.32\00:12:41.99 People think that you got the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and 00:12:42.02\00:12:45.06 that it's just, it's a myth or it's a fairy tale to try and 00:12:45.09\00:12:49.00 teach a lesson. 00:12:49.03\00:12:50.33 So I've got, we were just down in Masada, or maybe three years 00:12:50.37\00:12:55.37 ago, down in the Jordan Valley. 00:12:55.40\00:12:57.84 And in the area where Sodom and Gomorrah are believed to be, the 00:12:57.87\00:13:03.18 hills are full of ash, and in the ash they've got these sulfur 00:13:03.21\00:13:08.98 balls that are embedded. 00:13:09.02\00:13:11.69 It's the only place in the world that they know of where you can 00:13:11.72\00:13:14.56 find this. 00:13:14.59\00:13:15.89 The mountains are embedded with these sulfur balls. 00:13:15.92\00:13:18.43 I'm going to get over here, maybe we'll get this on 00:13:18.46\00:13:20.26 the camera. 00:13:20.30\00:13:21.73 You let me know if you get this focused in. 00:13:21.76\00:13:23.70 Oh, see, look at that. 00:13:23.73\00:13:25.03 It took off already. 00:13:25.07\00:13:27.30 I just touched it for a second with a lighter. 00:13:27.34\00:13:29.57 I don't know if you can see that bubbling and smoking. 00:13:29.60\00:13:34.11 These are sulfur balls that are embedded in, y'all see 00:13:34.14\00:13:37.21 the smoke? 00:13:37.25\00:13:38.58 I just snapped it for a second and it took right off. 00:13:38.61\00:13:41.05 You don't want to be in sulfur and brimstone. 00:13:41.08\00:13:43.65 I'll let you go put that out dear, before the fire department 00:13:43.69\00:13:46.55 shows up, don't put it on the phone. 00:13:46.59\00:13:50.29 The reason I go through that is to tell you, this is not a myth. 00:13:50.33\00:13:53.56 It really happened, this was real destruction. 00:13:53.60\00:13:57.37 There are consequences for sin according to the Bible. 00:13:57.40\00:14:00.94 Can you say amen? 00:14:00.97\00:14:02.84 Question number two--people on the front row probably smell 00:14:02.87\00:14:05.17 rotten eggs right now. 00:14:05.21\00:14:07.28 When will the wicked be destroyed in hellfire? 00:14:07.31\00:14:10.98 Answer, it says, "The Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of 00:14:11.01\00:14:16.32 temptation and how to reserve the unjust under punishment for 00:14:16.35\00:14:20.89 the day of JUDGMENT." 00:14:20.92\00:14:22.26 Now, when we talk about the subject of hellfire, there are a 00:14:22.29\00:14:26.46 couple of extremes. 00:14:26.49\00:14:27.76 One group is going to say there's really no such thing. 00:14:27.83\00:14:31.90 That it's just there to scare. 00:14:31.93\00:14:33.54 Matter of fact, one of the people on the street said, "Oh 00:14:33.57\00:14:35.40 yeah, hell it's just there to scare people, and it doesn't 00:14:35.44\00:14:38.87 exist at all." 00:14:38.91\00:14:40.21 Some people say then, that it burns forever and ever and 00:14:40.24\00:14:43.95 they've got this picture of people burning in hell. 00:14:43.98\00:14:47.58 And they say they're in molten fire and brimstone, and they're 00:14:47.62\00:14:52.49 burning and it never stops and they have no relief, how long? 00:14:52.52\00:14:58.63 Forever and ever. 00:14:58.66\00:15:00.06 Now, I don't know friends if you can comprehend that, what it 00:15:00.10\00:15:03.30 would be like. 00:15:03.33\00:15:04.70 I don't know how many of you remember a few years ago when 00:15:04.73\00:15:07.47 the US was battling with ISIS. 00:15:07.50\00:15:10.31 A Jordanian fighter was shot down, a young pilot. 00:15:10.34\00:15:14.61 He was actually the son of someone else I believe that was 00:15:14.64\00:15:16.75 in the military. 00:15:16.78\00:15:18.55 And he thought he was being involved in the negotiation for 00:15:18.58\00:15:22.95 a prisoner swap, but in reality, they brought him out, they 00:15:22.98\00:15:26.49 videotaped him, and they took him out in the desert and they 00:15:26.52\00:15:30.69 put him in a cage, a metal cage, no way to escape. 00:15:30.73\00:15:35.26 They doused him with gasoline or some incendiary fluid, and with 00:15:35.30\00:15:42.14 their video rolling, they threw a match in and set them on fire. 00:15:42.17\00:15:48.24 And then they broadcast this. 00:15:48.28\00:15:51.71 They put it up on the internet and showed what they were doing 00:15:51.75\00:15:53.88 to this pilot, and it took several minutes for him in 00:15:53.92\00:15:57.52 tremendous agony to die. 00:15:57.55\00:16:00.56 And his father was shown that. 00:16:00.59\00:16:04.09 Now you and I, we hear that and it just, I can see the 00:16:04.13\00:16:07.13 expressions on your face, it's horrific. 00:16:07.20\00:16:10.60 Here's a question, do you believe that our Heavenly Father 00:16:10.63\00:16:16.37 would take the objects of His creation that were made in His 00:16:16.40\00:16:20.04 image, that are born with some natural propensity to sin, and 00:16:20.08\00:16:24.78 if we do not manage to overcome, He says, "If you don't love me, 00:16:24.81\00:16:28.08 I'm going to burn you. 00:16:28.12\00:16:29.45 But I'm not just going to burn you, I'm going to burn 00:16:29.48\00:16:31.19 you forever." 00:16:31.22\00:16:33.02 You know, the Bible doesn't teach that. 00:16:33.05\00:16:35.16 The Bible does teach there's a hell, just like there was Sodom 00:16:35.19\00:16:38.59 and Gomorrah, they were punished. 00:16:38.63\00:16:40.20 The Bible teaches the wicked are burnt in hell. 00:16:40.23\00:16:42.83 Now here's the question, when does that happen? 00:16:42.86\00:16:45.73 What did we just read? 00:16:45.77\00:16:47.27 It says, "The Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of 00:16:47.30\00:16:49.84 temptation and to reserve," you ever reserve a table at 00:16:49.87\00:16:53.04 a restaurant? 00:16:53.07\00:16:54.91 That means you'll hold it until you get there, right? 00:16:54.94\00:16:58.28 So if God is reserving the wicked for the day of judgment, 00:16:58.31\00:17:01.85 how many people are burning in hell right now? 00:17:01.88\00:17:04.95 Is the judgment day passed or is it future? 00:17:04.99\00:17:08.49 It's pretty clear. 00:17:08.52\00:17:09.82 Jesus said the judgment day, the last day He calls it, the 00:17:09.86\00:17:13.19 judgment day is in the future. 00:17:13.23\00:17:14.60 People are not burning in hell before the judgment day. 00:17:14.63\00:17:18.27 And does everybody burn forever? 00:17:18.30\00:17:21.40 Doesn't the Bible say there are varying degrees of rewards? 00:17:21.44\00:17:25.41 If there are varying degrees of rewards, how fair would it be if 00:17:25.44\00:17:28.74 some teenager that, you know, they misbehaved, they live the 00:17:28.78\00:17:32.38 wrong kind of life, and they die lost, and they're going to burn 00:17:32.41\00:17:35.75 as long as Stalin and Hitler? 00:17:35.78\00:17:39.89 That one didn't seem very just. 00:17:39.92\00:17:41.89 I wanted to just stir up your pure minds and have you think, 00:17:41.92\00:17:44.43 and we're going to give you a scripture for everything we say. 00:17:44.46\00:17:46.83 Now I know there's some difficult verses, we're going to 00:17:46.86\00:17:49.30 answer them all. 00:17:49.33\00:17:50.67 We're not afraid of any scriptures, amen? 00:17:50.70\00:17:53.13 When are they judged? 00:17:53.17\00:17:54.50 "The word that I have spoken will judge him," in when? 00:17:54.54\00:17:58.31 "The LAST DAY." 00:17:58.34\00:17:59.81 Let's talk about the day of the Lord, the judgment day. 00:17:59.84\00:18:02.54 And again, Jesus tells a parable in Matthew 13, talking about the 00:18:02.58\00:18:07.52 separating the wheat and the tares, and it says, in the end 00:18:07.55\00:18:10.69 of the world, the angels will go forth, they will gather the 00:18:10.72\00:18:14.29 weed, the tares in bundles and burn them. 00:18:14.32\00:18:17.16 When does it happen? 00:18:17.19\00:18:18.66 "At the END of this AGE. 00:18:18.69\00:18:22.23 The Son of Man will send out His angels. 00:18:22.26\00:18:24.30 They will gather together those who practice lawlessness, and 00:18:24.33\00:18:27.87 cast them into a furnace of fire." 00:18:27.90\00:18:30.61 Now, is it pretty clear from the teachings of Jesus that there is 00:18:30.64\00:18:33.91 a punishment? 00:18:33.94\00:18:35.81 What do you think, yes? 00:18:35.84\00:18:37.95 Is it pretty clear from the teaching of Jesus that there is 00:18:37.98\00:18:41.48 going to be fire involved in that? 00:18:41.52\00:18:44.75 Yes, absolutely. 00:18:44.79\00:18:46.09 Number three, if the wicked who have died are not in hell yet, 00:18:46.12\00:18:53.13 where are they? 00:18:53.16\00:18:55.16 Are they in limbo? 00:18:55.20\00:18:56.83 Are they in purgatory? 00:18:56.87\00:18:59.60 Are they in, you know, some medium place? 00:18:59.63\00:19:03.97 Abraham's bosom, some say, what does the Bible say? 00:19:04.01\00:19:06.84 Jesus said, John 5, 28 and 29, "The hour is coming." 00:19:06.88\00:19:11.05 When he says he's coming, does that mean past or future? 00:19:11.08\00:19:14.35 "The hour is coming in which all that are," where are they? 00:19:14.38\00:19:18.39 "IN the GRAVES will hear His voice and come forth...those 00:19:18.42\00:19:23.46 that have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation." 00:19:23.49\00:19:27.60 Do you know the Bible teaches there are two resurrections. 00:19:27.60\00:19:31.10 The Bible tells us there is a resurrection of the just, the 00:19:31.13\00:19:34.34 dead in Christ rise first, that's up. 00:19:34.37\00:19:37.37 If you've got a first resurrection, what does 00:19:37.41\00:19:38.87 that mean? 00:19:38.91\00:19:40.31 Somewhere you got a, what? 00:19:40.34\00:19:41.84 A second, first is a sequential word. 00:19:41.88\00:19:45.28 No sense saying first if there's nothing else. 00:19:45.31\00:19:48.35 Says there's a first resurrection, and the rest of 00:19:48.38\00:19:51.19 the dead live not again until the thousand years are finished. 00:19:51.22\00:19:53.99 This is Revelation chapter 20. 00:19:54.02\00:19:56.06 So if the dead in Christ are first, who are the rest of 00:19:56.09\00:19:58.39 the dead? 00:19:58.43\00:20:00.20 Those out of Christ, the lost. 00:20:00.23\00:20:02.76 Jesus said they are where? 00:20:02.80\00:20:04.47 In their graves. 00:20:04.50\00:20:07.14 Now that is so important, because there are some people 00:20:07.17\00:20:09.84 that believe they have loved ones that have died lost, they 00:20:09.87\00:20:13.58 believe that they are down right now burning in, you know, people 00:20:13.61\00:20:17.98 believe that hell's got a torture chamber down there 00:20:18.01\00:20:21.12 somewhere, and there are people who are burning. 00:20:21.15\00:20:24.52 I remember going through the line in a supermarket and I saw 00:20:24.55\00:20:28.26 one of these tabloid magazines. 00:20:28.29\00:20:30.99 They got pretty outrageous coverage. 00:20:31.03\00:20:32.33 You have to laugh sometimes. 00:20:32.36\00:20:34.63 And it said, "Well drillers in Siberia go too deep, 00:20:34.66\00:20:39.17 demons escape." 00:20:39.20\00:20:42.57 And they say they've actually drilled into hell and the demons 00:20:42.60\00:20:47.21 are escaping. 00:20:47.24\00:20:49.01 And I suppose there's some people who believe that. 00:20:49.04\00:20:51.65 But that's not what the Bible teaches. 00:20:51.68\00:20:53.78 They're in their graves, again, another verse for you. 00:20:53.82\00:20:56.28 Job 21, verse 30 and 32. 00:20:56.32\00:20:59.15 "The wicked are reserved for the day of doom...he will be brought 00:20:59.19\00:21:03.22 to the," where? 00:21:03.26\00:21:04.79 "The GRAVE, and a vigil kept over the TOMB." 00:21:04.83\00:21:07.96 It says they're in their graves, they're in the tomb, they're 00:21:07.96\00:21:11.80 brought to their graves, they're waiting for the judgment day. 00:21:11.83\00:21:15.87 You know, I believe there are folks that have been driven to 00:21:15.90\00:21:18.27 the point of insanity thinking that someone they love died and 00:21:18.31\00:21:22.38 while they walk the earth, these people are writhing and 00:21:22.41\00:21:24.91 screaming and shrieking in the flames. 00:21:24.95\00:21:28.62 I was listening years ago to a Christian radio station. 00:21:28.65\00:21:34.89 And the people would call in Bible questions. 00:21:34.92\00:21:38.63 And the Bible questions were all across the board. 00:21:38.66\00:21:41.80 I mean, the station had some good music and they'd read the 00:21:41.83\00:21:44.13 Bible, the good things, but when this guy came on and started 00:21:44.17\00:21:46.30 answering questions, I had real issues with him. 00:21:46.33\00:21:49.74 And I remember hearing one time a mother called, and you could 00:21:49.77\00:21:53.21 tell from the cracking in her voice that she was obviously in 00:21:53.24\00:21:55.94 a lot of grief. 00:21:55.98\00:21:58.18 And she said, "Brother so and so," talking to the pastor, the 00:21:58.21\00:22:00.98 host of the program. 00:22:01.02\00:22:02.48 She said, "My son died a few days ago instantly in a 00:22:02.52\00:22:07.12 car accident. 00:22:07.16\00:22:08.79 He made no profession of believing in God. 00:22:08.82\00:22:11.13 He was living an ungodly life, and I've just got to know, is he 00:22:11.16\00:22:14.36 burning in hell right now?" 00:22:14.40\00:22:16.77 Well first he tried to skirt the question. 00:22:16.80\00:22:19.27 She said, "No, no, I'm just telling you that if there's any 00:22:19.30\00:22:22.54 evidence at all that a person was lost, he just cursed God and 00:22:22.57\00:22:26.71 lived a wicked life, and he ran into a tree and died instantly. 00:22:26.74\00:22:30.61 Is he burning in hell?" 00:22:30.65\00:22:33.11 And finally, after trying to evade a direct answer, he said, 00:22:33.15\00:22:36.02 "Well, you know, according to the Bible, if he died without 00:22:36.05\00:22:38.32 Christ, then next stop without passing go is he's in hell, 00:22:38.35\00:22:43.43 in hellfire." 00:22:43.46\00:22:45.86 And how long will he be there? 00:22:45.89\00:22:48.53 Forever, now, have you ever thought about how forever, how 00:22:48.56\00:22:53.13 long that is? 00:22:53.17\00:22:55.10 That means that if a person dies and they are burning in 00:22:55.14\00:22:58.01 hell--you ever burn yourself for a minute? 00:22:58.04\00:23:02.71 A person dies and they're in hell, that means a million years 00:23:02.74\00:23:07.18 from now, you try to swim to the surface and call out for help, 00:23:07.22\00:23:11.82 and God says, "You still haven't begun." 00:23:11.85\00:23:14.32 You never reach the beginning. 00:23:14.36\00:23:16.76 You never stop feeling the agony and the misery and the 00:23:16.79\00:23:20.46 shrieking, intense, burning pain forever, and ever, and ever for 00:23:20.50\00:23:25.87 the sins of one lifetime. 00:23:25.90\00:23:28.40 How long is 80, 90 years compared to eternity? 00:23:28.44\00:23:33.54 It's nonexistent. 00:23:33.58\00:23:36.08 To burn a person forever, and ever, and ever, and ever, for 00:23:36.11\00:23:42.52 this minuscule life, please explain the justice. 00:23:42.55\00:23:45.92 And when you ask some pastors that say, "Well, you know, who 00:23:45.95\00:23:48.62 are we, we don't understand how bad sin is, and He's God and 00:23:48.66\00:23:52.09 that's the punishment." 00:23:52.13\00:23:54.46 Now, let me get you to think about something, friends, 00:23:54.46\00:23:56.60 be honest. 00:23:56.63\00:23:58.63 How many of you would admit that as humans, all sin and fall 00:23:58.67\00:24:03.27 short of the glory of God? 00:24:03.30\00:24:05.11 Bible says all, we've all sinned. 00:24:05.14\00:24:07.21 We all kind of have a natural bent to sin, and to then torture 00:24:07.24\00:24:12.68 a person through eternity that you've created, you ostensibly 00:24:12.71\00:24:17.02 love, and you are a just God, forever and ever, for the sins 00:24:17.05\00:24:22.92 of a very brief life, does that make sense? 00:24:22.96\00:24:28.66 It's not biblical, I'm going to show you from the Bible, amen? 00:24:28.70\00:24:32.70 First of all, nobody's burning yet. 00:24:32.73\00:24:34.10 Number 4, what are the only two choices for all people? 00:24:34.14\00:24:38.34 That's why this is an important subject. 00:24:38.37\00:24:41.14 The Bible says, Jesus said, "For God so loved the world, he gave 00:24:41.18\00:24:45.35 his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should 00:24:45.38\00:24:49.38 not," do what? 00:24:49.42\00:24:50.89 "PERISH but have everlasting"--what are the 00:24:50.92\00:24:53.82 two choices? 00:24:53.86\00:24:55.29 Life or perish? 00:24:55.32\00:24:58.69 Perish means you cease to exist. 00:24:58.73\00:25:01.83 When you go to the market and you buy things that are 00:25:01.86\00:25:04.10 perishable, that means you better get them in the 00:25:04.13\00:25:06.67 refrigerator or eat them quickly, because they're 00:25:06.70\00:25:09.24 going to perish. 00:25:09.27\00:25:10.97 They do not last. 00:25:11.01\00:25:12.87 What did God say to Adam and Eve? 00:25:12.91\00:25:14.41 If you eat the forbidden fruit, you will surely die. 00:25:14.44\00:25:18.41 There are two choices, friends, you've got life or death. 00:25:18.45\00:25:21.78 Death is the absence of life. 00:25:21.82\00:25:24.15 God did not say you've got eternal life in heaven or 00:25:24.19\00:25:26.45 eternal life burning, isn't that right? 00:25:26.49\00:25:30.29 Moses, before he died, he stood before the children of Israel. 00:25:30.33\00:25:33.09 He said, I set before you this day two options: life, good, 00:25:33.13\00:25:37.83 blessing; death, evil, cursing. 00:25:37.87\00:25:40.97 Choose life, everybody can choose life. 00:25:41.00\00:25:46.81 But the devil, who--remember what we learned about the devil? 00:25:46.84\00:25:50.65 He wants to misrepresent God. 00:25:50.68\00:25:52.38 Doug: Friends, I hope you've been blessed by today's message, 00:25:52.98\00:25:55.72 but really the reason we do this is so that people might 00:25:55.75\00:25:58.55 know Christ. 00:25:58.59\00:25:59.92 You know, information is not going to save us, it's a 00:25:59.95\00:26:02.52 relationship with Jesus, the one who died on the cross for 00:26:02.56\00:26:05.23 your sins. 00:26:05.26\00:26:06.56 You must personally accept him, and that's the most important 00:26:06.59\00:26:09.40 thing and why we do these programs. 00:26:09.43\00:26:11.50 If you've not asked him into your heart before, then I'd 00:26:11.53\00:26:14.17 encourage you to do it right now. 00:26:14.20\00:26:15.90 His arms are open wide. 00:26:15.94\00:26:17.71 Just come to him as you are and ask him. 00:26:17.74\00:26:19.81 Doug: Hi friends, I trust you're being blessed by what 00:26:21.01\00:26:23.08 you're watching. 00:26:23.11\00:26:24.45 If you want to be doubly blessed, then you're going to 00:26:24.48\00:26:26.28 want to get the "Prophecy Odyssey" study guides that go 00:26:26.31\00:26:29.42 along with these presentations. 00:26:29.45\00:26:31.05 There's 15 study guides. 00:26:31.09\00:26:32.72 They're beautifully illustrated, and they will greatly enhance 00:26:32.75\00:26:35.92 your Bible comprehension. 00:26:35.96\00:26:37.69 So if you'd like to get them, simply follow the instructions 00:26:37.73\00:26:40.16 that you see on the screen. 00:26:40.20\00:26:41.53 You will be glad you did. 00:26:41.56\00:26:43.43 ¤¤¤ 00:26:43.47\00:26:49.80 Doug: If you'd like to learn the whole truth about the subject of 00:26:50.64\00:26:53.27 what happens to the wicked at the end of time, you're going to 00:26:53.31\00:26:56.08 want to get "Hell-Fire: A Twisted Truth Untangled." 00:26:56.11\00:27:00.25 It's going to show you the eye-opening truth about hell and 00:27:00.28\00:27:02.88 the grave. 00:27:02.92\00:27:04.22 To get your copy, simply follow the instructions on the screen 00:27:04.25\00:27:07.19 and we will send it to you absolutely free. 00:27:07.22\00:27:10.26 ¤¤¤ 00:27:10.29\00:27:19.40 ¤¤¤ 00:27:19.43\00:27:26.24 ¤¤¤ 00:27:26.27\00:27:33.52 female announcer: Have you ever skipped a meal? 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