male announcer: This presentation is 00:00:02.06\00:00:03.30 brought to you by the friends of the Amazing Facts ministry. 00:00:03.33\00:00:06.20 ¤¤¤ 00:00:06.23\00:00:08.87 Doug Batchelor: The Christians of the Ancient Mediterranean 00:00:08.90\00:00:10.97 world used catacombs, a network of subterranean chambers 00:00:11.01\00:00:14.34 and galleries for burial, but during times of persecution, 00:00:14.38\00:00:17.91 the catacombs became places of refuge because burial grounds 00:00:17.95\00:00:21.85 were guarded or sacrosanct by Roman law. 00:00:21.88\00:00:25.52 When churches above ground were destroyed by imperial order, 00:00:25.55\00:00:28.62 worshipers met in catacomb chapels. 00:00:28.66\00:00:31.43 By A.D. 200, Christians had carved 00:00:31.46\00:00:34.03 some 600 miles of tombs in the volcanic rock 00:00:34.10\00:00:37.70 in and around Rome. 00:00:37.73\00:00:40.04 Eventually, the catacombs expanded into honeycombs 00:00:40.07\00:00:43.41 of galleries with staircases and multiple levels. 00:00:43.44\00:00:47.21 Romans preferred cremation, but Christians followed 00:00:47.24\00:00:49.74 the practice of interring the dead in catacombs, 00:00:49.78\00:00:52.41 which they called "coemeteria" or "sleeping places," 00:00:52.45\00:00:56.22 to suggest that, for a Christian, 00:00:56.25\00:00:58.15 death is merely a sleep before the Resurrection. 00:00:58.19\00:01:02.69 Did you know that Jesus plainly taught that death is a sleep? 00:01:02.72\00:01:07.03 In fact, all of Scripture confirms that it is 00:01:07.03\00:01:09.96 an unconscious sleep until the resurrection of Christ's return. 00:01:10.00\00:01:14.24 So why is there so much confusion, 00:01:14.27\00:01:16.64 even among Christians, over what happens when we die? 00:01:16.67\00:01:20.34 And how can you protect yourself against some of the potentially 00:01:20.38\00:01:23.75 dangerous delusions about death in the last days? 00:01:23.78\00:01:27.22 ¤¤¤ 00:01:27.25\00:01:31.82 Doug: Tonight's presentation is very important, and it's-- 00:01:31.85\00:01:34.66 our story, we always begin with, kind of, a storacle, 00:01:34.69\00:01:37.59 an allegorical, metaphorical Bible story that helps teach 00:01:37.63\00:01:40.86 these theology points. 00:01:40.90\00:01:43.70 It comes to us from 1 Samuel 28, 00:01:43.73\00:01:47.24 and just give you a little background here, 00:01:47.27\00:01:49.77 the first king of Israel was King Saul. 00:01:49.80\00:01:53.81 He was anointed by Samuel the prophet. 00:01:53.84\00:01:57.21 Got two books in the Bible, 1 and 2 Samuel. 00:01:57.25\00:01:59.95 And when Saul was first chosen, he was a good man, 00:02:00.05\00:02:03.49 had a good heart, had a humble attitude, 00:02:03.52\00:02:05.55 but after he was chosen to be king, 00:02:05.59\00:02:07.62 you've heard that expression, "Power corrupts," 00:02:07.66\00:02:10.56 "Absolute power corrupts"? 00:02:10.59\00:02:12.06 Absolutely. 00:02:12.09\00:02:13.53 And after he met with some success and he gained some 00:02:13.56\00:02:16.26 wealth and reputation, over the years, he became proud, 00:02:16.30\00:02:19.60 and finally he sort of cast off God and began to grieve away 00:02:19.63\00:02:24.67 the Holy Spirit, started brooding. 00:02:24.71\00:02:27.94 Bible says an evil spirit began to torment him, 00:02:27.98\00:02:30.68 and he gets so mad that he'd throw a spear at David, 00:02:30.71\00:02:34.68 who's a musician, or even his own son, Jonathan. 00:02:34.72\00:02:37.45 He killed a number of the priests of God in a fit of 00:02:37.49\00:02:41.36 jealousy and fear, and finally, near the end of his life, 00:02:41.39\00:02:47.03 he was facing a very big battle against the Philistines. 00:02:47.10\00:02:50.90 At this point, Samuel the prophet, 00:02:50.93\00:02:53.40 who had always guided him earlier in his life 00:02:53.44\00:02:55.54 had died off, and so he was looking for some counsel, 00:02:55.57\00:03:00.38 and the Bible said God did not speak to him 00:03:00.41\00:03:02.78 through the priests nor through a prophet, and in desperation, 00:03:02.81\00:03:07.05 looking for some guidance, going against this massive 00:03:07.08\00:03:09.48 Philistine army, he said, "Well, find me a witch." 00:03:09.52\00:03:15.76 He says, "Find me a woman who is a medium, 00:03:15.79\00:03:18.29 that I might go to her and inquire of her." 00:03:18.33\00:03:21.03 Now, that was absolutely forbidden in the Bible. 00:03:21.06\00:03:25.20 Well, his servants happened to know there was still somebody 00:03:25.23\00:03:28.30 in the area of En Dor, not too far away, 00:03:28.34\00:03:30.57 that had the reputation of being a medium 00:03:30.61\00:03:33.07 that can consult and conjure up dead spirits, and so he went. 00:03:33.11\00:03:40.12 He disguised himself because, if she knew he was the king, 00:03:40.15\00:03:43.42 she'd probably be afraid to give him any information, 00:03:43.45\00:03:46.82 and she went through her incantations and whatever 00:03:46.86\00:03:49.49 it was that she did through gunpowder 00:03:49.52\00:03:51.59 and the fire or something. 00:03:51.63\00:03:52.99 It went "poof," and then this apparition appeared that claimed 00:03:53.03\00:03:58.30 to be Samuel the prophet come back from the dead, and he gave 00:03:58.33\00:04:02.17 an absolutely discouraging message to Saul, saying, 00:04:02.20\00:04:07.04 "You're going to die, and you'll be with me tomorrow, 00:04:07.08\00:04:09.68 and Israel's going to die, and they're going to be 00:04:09.71\00:04:12.45 defeated in battle." 00:04:12.48\00:04:15.75 Saul just went to pieces. 00:04:15.78\00:04:17.35 He just lost all his courage, and, you know, 00:04:17.39\00:04:19.62 the Bible tells us that one of the most important things 00:04:19.65\00:04:22.09 in battle is to have courage. 00:04:22.12\00:04:23.43 You can read about that in the book of Joshua. 00:04:23.46\00:04:25.63 And the Bible tells us in Leviticus 19, verse 31, 00:04:26.70\00:04:29.40 and chapter 20, verse 27, they were never 00:04:29.43\00:04:33.10 to consult a witch or a medium. 00:04:33.13\00:04:36.10 In absolute disregard of that, that's what he did. 00:04:36.14\00:04:38.87 The next day in battle, the Philistines did overwhelm 00:04:38.91\00:04:41.54 the discouraged soldiers, and you've heard the expression 00:04:41.58\00:04:44.41 "Fall on your sword"? 00:04:44.45\00:04:46.61 That's what Saul did. 00:04:46.65\00:04:48.15 When he realized he had been wounded by the archers, 00:04:48.18\00:04:51.35 he didn't want to be captured and tortured by the Philistines. 00:04:51.39\00:04:54.22 He literally fell on his sword, and his armor bearer fell 00:04:54.26\00:04:57.43 on his sword, and Saul and his three sons died 00:04:57.46\00:05:01.50 that same day together. 00:05:01.53\00:05:04.93 Soon, David followed as king. 00:05:04.97\00:05:07.04 But the big question people want to know, 00:05:07.07\00:05:09.87 "Was the form that Saul saw actually Samuel the prophet?" 00:05:09.90\00:05:14.54 I'm going to read you a verse that is not in our study guide, 00:05:14.58\00:05:19.95 and this comes to us from 1 Chronicles chapter 10. 00:05:19.98\00:05:22.92 You not only find this story in 1 Samuel. 00:05:22.95\00:05:26.79 You find it in 1 Chronicles chapter 10. 00:05:26.82\00:05:28.96 They often cover some of the same history. 00:05:28.99\00:05:31.36 "So Saul died for his unfaithfulness 00:05:31.39\00:05:33.83 which he committed against the Lord, because he did not 00:05:33.86\00:05:36.33 keep the word of the Lord, and because he consulted 00:05:36.36\00:05:39.23 a medium for guidance. 00:05:39.27\00:05:41.17 But he did not inquire of the Lord, therefore, 00:05:41.20\00:05:45.41 the Lord killed him." 00:05:45.44\00:05:47.08 So when he inquired of Samuel the prophet, the Bible says, 00:05:47.11\00:05:49.84 "He did not inquire of the Lord." 00:05:49.88\00:05:51.41 That was not Samuel the prophet. 00:05:51.45\00:05:52.78 That was not the Lord's counsel or the Lord's message to him. 00:05:52.81\00:05:55.72 It says that this was an apparition, 00:05:55.75\00:05:57.79 a spirit that was conjured up by a witch. 00:05:57.82\00:06:01.42 You read in 1 Kings chapter 22, verse 22, "The Lord said to him, 00:06:01.46\00:06:06.70 'In what way?' 00:06:06.73\00:06:08.30 So he said, 'I will go out and be a lying spirit 00:06:08.33\00:06:11.70 in the mouth of all of his prophets.'" 00:06:11.73\00:06:13.70 This is when Micaiah the prophet was talking to Ahab 00:06:13.74\00:06:16.27 and Jehoshaphat, and he said there are lying spirits. 00:06:16.30\00:06:20.18 Look also again what we just read in Revelation 16, verse 14, 00:06:20.21\00:06:24.08 "For they are the spirits of demons performing signs," 00:06:24.11\00:06:27.45 and you can read in 2 Corinthians chapter 11, 00:06:27.48\00:06:30.25 "For Satan himself is transformed 00:06:30.29\00:06:32.35 into an angel of light." 00:06:32.39\00:06:35.29 Satan can create illusions, and we need to understand 00:06:35.32\00:06:39.49 what does the Bible say happens when a person dies. 00:06:39.53\00:06:43.87 All right, question number two, 00:06:43.90\00:06:46.20 "Do dead people come back to converse with 00:06:46.23\00:06:48.77 or to haunt the living?" 00:06:48.80\00:06:50.64 Listen to what the Bible says. 00:06:50.67\00:06:51.97 We believe the Bible, amen? 00:06:52.01\00:06:53.68 So let's find out what the Bible says. 00:06:53.71\00:06:55.54 Ecclesiastes 9, verse 5, Solomon wrote, 00:06:55.58\00:06:58.11 "For the living know that they will die, but the dead--" 00:06:58.15\00:07:01.22 what's that say up there?-- 00:07:01.25\00:07:03.18 "know nothing, and they have no more reward," 00:07:03.22\00:07:07.62 meaning of in this life, "for the memory of them is forgotten. 00:07:07.66\00:07:10.96 Also, their love, their hatred--" 00:07:10.99\00:07:12.76 they're not loving or hating anybody. 00:07:12.79\00:07:14.10 You don't have to worry about ghosts haunting you 00:07:14.10\00:07:15.70 because they're mad at you-- "their envy has now perished. 00:07:15.73\00:07:19.30 Nevermore will they have a share in anything done under the sun, 00:07:19.33\00:07:23.74 meaning in this life." 00:07:23.77\00:07:25.07 They don't come back to this life. 00:07:25.11\00:07:26.57 The Bible's clear it's appointed unto man once to die; 00:07:26.61\00:07:29.08 after that the judgment." 00:07:29.11\00:07:30.41 You don't keep coming back and haunting people 00:07:30.45\00:07:31.85 and meddling with what's going on down here. 00:07:31.88\00:07:34.58 You're asleep until the resurrection. 00:07:34.62\00:07:36.35 Psalm 115, verse 17, "The dead do not praise the Lord." 00:07:36.38\00:07:40.52 That's pretty clear. 00:07:40.56\00:07:41.96 First thing I'd do if I died and I went to heaven, 00:07:41.99\00:07:43.69 what would I do? 00:07:43.73\00:07:45.06 I'd say, "Praise the Lord, I'm here," right? 00:07:45.09\00:07:47.96 So the Bible says, "The dead do not praise the Lord." 00:07:48.00\00:07:50.03 Then you can read in Psalm 6, verse 5, 00:07:50.07\00:07:52.33 "In death there is no remembrance of Thee." 00:07:52.37\00:07:56.34 People who die, they're not thinking of the Lord. 00:07:56.37\00:07:59.11 Job 7, verse 10, it says, again, speaking of the dead, 00:07:59.14\00:08:02.78 "He will never return to his house." 00:08:02.81\00:08:04.55 He's not going anywhere to haunt anybody at that time. 00:08:04.58\00:08:08.98 And, again, another verse in Isaiah 38, when Hezekiah was 00:08:09.02\00:08:11.75 told by Isaiah the prophet, he said, "Put your house in order, 00:08:11.79\00:08:15.42 " "You're going to die," Hezekiah began to pray and cry, 00:08:15.46\00:08:17.93 and he said, "Death cannot praise You." 00:08:17.96\00:08:22.26 He says, "I'm going to praise You. 00:08:22.30\00:08:23.60 If I'm dead, I can't do that." 00:08:23.63\00:08:25.60 So the idea that, as soon as you die, you're leaping up 00:08:25.63\00:08:28.47 and down in the presence of the Lord, praising God, 00:08:28.50\00:08:30.81 you don't find that in the Bible. 00:08:30.84\00:08:33.27 Psalm 146, verse 6, "Put not your trust in princes, 00:08:33.31\00:08:37.41 neither in the son of man, in whom there is no help. 00:08:37.45\00:08:40.48 His breath goes forth. 00:08:40.52\00:08:42.08 In that very day, his thoughts perish. 00:08:42.12\00:08:44.42 His plans perish." 00:08:44.45\00:08:46.02 He's not thinking or planning anything--what it says. 00:08:46.05\00:08:49.12 "Where do the dead people go when they die?" 00:08:49.16\00:08:53.23 It says here in Job 21:32, "He is brought to the grave. 00:08:53.26\00:08:56.33 He remains in the tomb. 00:08:56.36\00:08:57.67 All who are in their graves--" when Jesus comes-- 00:08:57.70\00:09:00.37 this is John chapter 5, verse 28 and 29. 00:09:00.40\00:09:03.27 "All who are in their graves will hear His voice." 00:09:03.30\00:09:06.31 How can they hear His voice in the graves 00:09:06.34\00:09:07.81 if they're already in heaven? 00:09:07.84\00:09:09.81 Does that make sense? 00:09:09.84\00:09:11.15 These are the words of Jesus. 00:09:11.18\00:09:12.48 It's all through the New Testament. 00:09:12.51\00:09:14.62 "The Bible makes it plain that King David will be saved." 00:09:14.65\00:09:17.45 Everyone knows good King David killed Goliath. 00:09:17.49\00:09:20.79 Man after God's own heart. 00:09:20.82\00:09:22.99 He will be in heaven. 00:09:23.02\00:09:24.33 When he died, the Bible says, "He slept with his fathers." 00:09:24.36\00:09:28.93 "Is he in heaven now?" 00:09:28.96\00:09:30.97 Some people say, "Well, no one really went to heaven 00:09:31.00\00:09:32.80 till Jesus died on the cross, and then they went to heaven 00:09:32.83\00:09:34.80 when Jesus raised." 00:09:34.84\00:09:36.87 Well, you read in the book of Acts, 00:09:36.91\00:09:39.81 40 days after Jesus has gone to heaven, 00:09:39.84\00:09:42.98 you can read, Peter, where he says 00:09:43.01\00:09:44.31 in Acts chapter 2, verse 29, "Men and brethren--" 00:09:44.35\00:09:47.55 this was during his public sermon-- 00:09:47.58\00:09:49.18 "let me freely speak to you of the patriarch David, 00:09:49.22\00:09:51.65 that he is dead and buried, and his tomb is with us 00:09:51.69\00:09:56.49 to this day." 00:09:56.52\00:09:57.83 David's tomb is still, to this day, in Jerusalem. 00:09:57.86\00:09:59.83 And then he goes on. 00:09:59.86\00:10:01.13 He says, in verse 34, "For David did not ascend 00:10:01.16\00:10:03.50 into the heavens." 00:10:03.53\00:10:04.83 Now, I don't know how more clear it can be. 00:10:04.87\00:10:06.17 This is not complicated. 00:10:06.20\00:10:07.50 He says, good King David, someone saved, he is dead, 00:10:07.54\00:10:10.31 he is buried, he's not in heaven, and this is a long time 00:10:10.34\00:10:13.38 after the Resurrection. 00:10:13.41\00:10:15.74 And you can read in 1 Corinthians chapter 15, 00:10:15.78\00:10:18.01 verse 22, "For in Adam all die--" 00:10:18.05\00:10:21.92 because of the sin of Adam, we all struggle with death-- 00:10:21.95\00:10:24.05 "even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 00:10:24.09\00:10:26.89 But each one in its own order. 00:10:26.92\00:10:28.99 Here's the order: Christ the firstfruits, 00:10:29.02\00:10:31.76 afterward those who are Christ's at His coming." 00:10:31.79\00:10:36.43 When are they raised? 00:10:36.46\00:10:38.00 "At His coming." 00:10:38.03\00:10:39.87 The Lord will descend from heaven with a shout, 00:10:39.90\00:10:41.54 the voice of the archangel, the trump of God. 00:10:41.57\00:10:43.41 The dead in Christ will rise." 00:10:43.44\00:10:45.14 They are resting in peace. 00:10:45.17\00:10:47.24 Even Martin Luther understood that. 00:10:47.28\00:10:48.71 The great reformer, he said, "God, Jesus will come, 00:10:48.74\00:10:51.41 and when He comes, He'll knock on the grave and say, 00:10:51.45\00:10:52.88 'Dr. Martin, wake up,'" because they're sleeping. 00:10:52.91\00:10:56.48 "But isn't it true that the soul is immortal 00:10:56.52\00:10:59.12 and that only the body dies?" 00:10:59.15\00:11:02.22 What's the Bible say? 00:11:02.26\00:11:03.93 "The soul who sins--" Ezekiel 18, verse 4-- 00:11:03.96\00:11:07.03 "will die." 00:11:07.10\00:11:09.46 Job 4:17, "Can mortal man be more righteous than God?" 00:11:09.50\00:11:14.04 We don't have immortality yet. 00:11:14.07\00:11:17.07 That's why God chased Adam and Eve out of the garden 00:11:17.11\00:11:19.24 that they might not eat from the tree of life, 00:11:19.27\00:11:21.31 and they were going to die. 00:11:21.34\00:11:23.11 Says, "In the day that you eat thereof, you will surely die." 00:11:23.14\00:11:25.25 Look at 1 Timothy chapter 6, verse 15 and 16, 00:11:25.28\00:11:28.18 "The King of kings, the Lord of lords, 00:11:28.22\00:11:31.72 who alone has immortality." 00:11:31.75\00:11:35.56 If that's clear, say, "Amen." 00:11:35.59\00:11:37.63 So, when people say, "You've got an immortal soul" 00:11:37.66\00:11:41.26 and that you're destined to live through eternity, well, 00:11:41.30\00:11:45.13 Jesus said in John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, 00:11:45.17\00:11:49.47 He gave His only begotten 00:11:49.50\00:11:50.84 Son, that whoever believes in Him might not perish, 00:11:50.87\00:11:54.18 but have everlasting life." 00:11:54.21\00:11:56.34 Immortality is conditional unbelief in Christ. 00:11:56.38\00:12:00.95 Isn't this what the Bible is telling us? 00:12:00.98\00:12:03.22 "When will the righteous receive immortality?" 00:12:03.25\00:12:06.99 "We will all be changed in a moment, 00:12:07.02\00:12:11.36 in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." 00:12:11.39\00:12:15.43 Goes on and says, "For the trumpet will sound, 00:12:15.46\00:12:18.70 and the dead will be raised incorruptible, 00:12:18.73\00:12:20.54 and this mortal must put on immortality. 00:12:20.57\00:12:23.81 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven 00:12:23.84\00:12:26.98 with a shout," and I quoted this to you a moment ago, 00:12:27.01\00:12:29.08 1 Thessalonians 4:16. 00:12:29.11\00:12:31.45 "The Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, 00:12:31.48\00:12:34.35 with the voice of the archangel, and the trumpet of God. 00:12:34.38\00:12:37.02 And the dead in Christ will rise first." 00:12:37.05\00:12:41.56 So there's resurrection of the dead, 00:12:41.59\00:12:43.56 and this is our first resurrection. 00:12:43.59\00:12:45.73 It happens when the Lord comes back. 00:12:45.76\00:12:48.03 And so, "But Pastor Doug, we've just heard so many people 00:12:48.06\00:12:51.90 say that you die, and you immediately go to the Lord," 00:12:51.93\00:12:54.47 and they talk about so-and-so: "They're in heaven now." 00:12:54.50\00:12:57.14 And we know they mean well because they're thinking, 00:12:57.17\00:12:59.34 you know, based upon the time they'll experience, 00:12:59.37\00:13:01.44 but it hasn't happened yet, and the reason I keep pressing 00:13:01.48\00:13:03.98 it's important to understand that-- 00:13:04.01\00:13:06.21 you remember our opening story? 00:13:06.25\00:13:09.05 King Saul was deceived and discouraged by an evil spirit 00:13:09.08\00:13:13.36 posing as Samuel the prophet. 00:13:13.39\00:13:16.36 And remember what I just read there in Revelation? 00:13:16.39\00:13:19.09 These unclean spirits go out to the leaders of the world to 00:13:19.13\00:13:21.66 gather them together to battle, to deceive them with lying signs 00:13:21.70\00:13:26.30 and lying wonders, and the Bible talks about lying spirits, 00:13:26.33\00:13:29.57 and Satan can create illusions. 00:13:29.60\00:13:32.94 Just up the street here from where we're having this meeting, 00:13:32.97\00:13:36.51 there's a little establishment where you could pay them 00:13:36.54\00:13:38.58 a price, I suppose-- I've not been there-- 00:13:38.61\00:13:40.42 and they will give you a reading. 00:13:40.45\00:13:43.85 They'll try and contact your departed loved ones. 00:13:43.89\00:13:46.29 A lot of them are charlatans. 00:13:46.32\00:13:47.89 Some of them may be in cahoots with the enemy. 00:13:47.92\00:13:50.36 I don't know--not going to find out. 00:13:50.39\00:13:52.76 Or they'll read your tarot cards and Ouija boards. 00:13:52.79\00:13:56.70 And, you know, friends, I'm talking about something 00:13:56.73\00:13:58.53 I know a little bit about because I grew up as a pagan. 00:13:58.57\00:14:01.60 My mother used to write horoscopes. 00:14:01.64\00:14:04.64 She actually has an album. 00:14:04.67\00:14:06.27 You can even see it on the internet. 00:14:06.31\00:14:07.81 She wrote horoscope songs. 00:14:07.84\00:14:09.51 She wrote 12 songs, one for each of the horoscopes, and I said, 00:14:09.54\00:14:12.51 "Mom, you believe that stuff?" 00:14:12.55\00:14:14.75 She said, "No," but it pays. 00:14:14.78\00:14:18.25 But we had a lot of friends. 00:14:18.29\00:14:19.59 They were all into seances, and we were part of seances 00:14:19.62\00:14:22.79 and the Ouija boards, and I don't know if anyone's 00:14:22.82\00:14:27.60 old enough to remember. 00:14:27.60\00:14:28.90 They used to have a national television program. 00:14:28.93\00:14:30.47 It was actually a soap opera called "Dark Shadows." 00:14:30.50\00:14:34.50 Some of you guys, you remember that. 00:14:34.54\00:14:36.27 Two of the actors, the principal actors in that were friends 00:14:36.30\00:14:39.07 of ours, and they'd come to our house, and we'd go to theirs, 00:14:39.11\00:14:41.64 and those people were into some really weird, dark stuff. 00:14:41.68\00:14:46.72 It happens more than you think. 00:14:46.75\00:14:48.78 There are some people in high places who think that 00:14:48.82\00:14:50.69 they're consulting with the dead or getting some spiritual advice 00:14:50.72\00:14:53.76 like that, and what if-- if the devil can come down 00:14:53.79\00:14:59.26 and impersonate Christ, can his fallen demons look 00:14:59.29\00:15:02.46 like departed Bible characters? 00:15:02.50\00:15:05.57 ¤¤¤ 00:15:05.60\00:15:07.40 Doug: Don't go anywhere, friends. 00:15:07.44\00:15:08.74 We'll be back in just a moment with the rest 00:15:08.77\00:15:10.17 of today's presentation. 00:15:10.21\00:15:11.84 One of the most confusing subjects in our world today is 00:15:11.87\00:15:14.98 the big question "What happens when we die?" 00:15:15.01\00:15:19.38 Seems like everywhere you turn, someone out there has 00:15:19.41\00:15:21.48 a different opinion about the afterlife, whether heaven, 00:15:21.52\00:15:24.79 hell, purgatory, limbo, or eternal nonexistence. 00:15:24.82\00:15:28.76 Well, are you tired of all the contradictory 00:15:28.79\00:15:31.23 and confusing messages? 00:15:31.26\00:15:33.43 Wouldn't you like to know what the Bible really says 00:15:33.46\00:15:35.86 once and for all? 00:15:35.90\00:15:37.83 To help answer all of your questions, 00:15:37.87\00:15:39.50 Amazing Facts would like to send you a very special free gift. 00:15:39.53\00:15:43.17 It's called "The Afterlife Mystery." 00:15:43.20\00:15:46.17 This attractive, full-color magazine provides simple 00:15:46.21\00:15:49.41 but vital biblical facts to help you decode death, hell, 00:15:49.44\00:15:53.55 and eternal life, amid all of the confusing deceptions today. 00:15:53.58\00:15:57.75 In a captivating, contemporary way, 00:15:57.79\00:16:00.22 it presents powerful lessons about what happens 00:16:00.26\00:16:02.72 when we die and, more importantly, 00:16:02.76\00:16:05.03 how you can be ready for eternity. 00:16:05.06\00:16:07.30 To get your free copy, call the phone number on the screen 00:16:07.30\00:16:09.80 and ask for Offer Number 839, or visit the web address, 00:16:09.83\00:16:14.17 and after you read this incredible resource, 00:16:14.20\00:16:16.81 be sure and share it with a friend. 00:16:16.84\00:16:18.51 Let's return now to today's presentation 00:16:19.11\00:16:21.04 and learn some more amazing facts from the Word of God. 00:16:21.08\00:16:24.55 ¤¤¤ 00:16:24.58\00:16:26.25 Doug: I remember hearing this story, 00:16:26.28\00:16:27.58 and this an anecdotal story. 00:16:27.62\00:16:29.45 I can't prove it, but someone told me that they knew a lady 00:16:29.48\00:16:33.46 that was in San Francisco--this was during the Vietnam War-- 00:16:33.49\00:16:36.86 and that she was a Christian. 00:16:36.89\00:16:39.76 Her belief was always that you die, 00:16:39.79\00:16:41.06 and you sleep until the resurrection, 00:16:41.10\00:16:43.53 and she got one of those terrible notices from the army, 00:16:43.57\00:16:47.84 and it said, "We regret to inform you 00:16:47.87\00:16:50.11 that your son is missing in action and presumed dead." 00:16:50.14\00:16:53.84 And, of course, she was devastated, and she was alone. 00:16:53.88\00:16:57.21 She had no husband, and she was grieving in her apartment 00:16:57.25\00:16:59.81 building there in San Francisco for weeks, and one day, 00:16:59.85\00:17:03.32 she woke up at night, and there was her son standing at the foot 00:17:03.35\00:17:09.09 of her bed, and she was terrified. 00:17:09.12\00:17:12.09 He says, "Mother, don't worry. 00:17:12.13\00:17:13.43 I'm fine." 00:17:13.46\00:17:14.73 And she was wondering because he made no profession 00:17:14.76\00:17:16.23 of being a Christian. 00:17:16.26\00:17:17.57 He was living a pretty wild life the last she heard from him. 00:17:17.60\00:17:20.37 And he said, "Oh, everyone goes to heaven. 00:17:20.40\00:17:23.24 Don't worry. 00:17:23.27\00:17:24.57 God just puts these things about the lake of fire in the Bible 00:17:24.61\00:17:26.71 to scare people into being good," and giving all these 00:17:26.74\00:17:30.28 very strange interpretations, but it made her feel so good 00:17:30.31\00:17:33.58 because it looked just like her son, sounded just like her son, 00:17:33.62\00:17:36.08 knew things only her son would know, 00:17:36.12\00:17:38.69 and this happened several times, and then, one day, there was a-- 00:17:38.72\00:17:41.89 door rang, her apartment. 00:17:41.92\00:17:44.19 She opened up the door, and there's her son again 00:17:44.23\00:17:47.30 except now he's in uniform, and his arm is in a sling. 00:17:47.30\00:17:50.43 And she said, "Why are you meeting me out here 00:17:50.47\00:17:52.23 in the hall?" 00:17:52.27\00:17:53.57 He said, "What are you talking about?" 00:17:53.60\00:17:54.90 She reached out. It was really her son. 00:17:54.94\00:17:56.24 She touched him. 00:17:56.27\00:17:57.91 And evidently, he said, "No, I was wounded, 00:17:57.94\00:18:00.08 but I'm not dead. 00:18:00.11\00:18:01.64 They, just, they gave you some bad paperwork. 00:18:01.68\00:18:03.31 I'm so sorry that you thought that I was dead." 00:18:03.35\00:18:04.75 You know, that's happened before. 00:18:04.78\00:18:06.08 Parents get the message that their kids are presumed dead, 00:18:06.11\00:18:08.15 and then they're not. 00:18:08.18\00:18:10.09 Well, what was appearing to that woman, claiming to be her son? 00:18:10.12\00:18:13.25 And you wonder if the demons had a computer breakdown. 00:18:13.29\00:18:16.32 They didn't get their stories straight. 00:18:16.36\00:18:18.56 But you could see how easily people, when they're missing 00:18:18.59\00:18:20.90 a loved one--now, someone else is thinking, 00:18:20.93\00:18:22.56 "Pastor Doug, I'm having problems 00:18:22.60\00:18:23.97 with what you're saying right now because my loved one, 00:18:24.00\00:18:27.64 my spouse," or somebody, "died, and I've sensed them 00:18:27.67\00:18:31.44 with me, I've heard them guide me, and I just know 00:18:31.47\00:18:34.91 they're--I felt their spirit, and, you know, 00:18:34.94\00:18:37.81 I'm not denying that you've had these sensations, friends, 00:18:37.85\00:18:40.78 and it's not always diabolical. 00:18:40.82\00:18:42.95 My brother died of cystic fibrosis when he was 35. 00:18:42.98\00:18:46.92 He's my older brother. 00:18:46.96\00:18:48.76 From the time I was born until he died, he was always there 00:18:48.79\00:18:51.66 my whole life, and even after he died, I'd reach for the phone 00:18:51.69\00:18:55.56 to call him because I used to call him all the time, 00:18:55.60\00:18:57.93 and I remember reaching for the phone to call him. 00:18:57.97\00:19:00.27 I just felt his presence, and then I realized he was dead. 00:19:00.30\00:19:03.74 I'd forgotten. 00:19:03.77\00:19:05.24 I've talked to widows, who, after their spouse dies-- 00:19:05.27\00:19:07.78 and they say, you know, "A few weeks later, I get up, 00:19:07.81\00:19:11.48 and I call down the hall and say, "Jack, can you come here?" 00:19:11.51\00:19:14.02 And then they remember that their husband's gone. 00:19:14.05\00:19:16.35 And your mind is filled with the memories of people you love. 00:19:16.38\00:19:20.99 It's very normal to have those sensations and memories, 00:19:21.02\00:19:24.19 and you might even have a dream where God gives you some comfort 00:19:24.23\00:19:26.66 in a dream. 00:19:26.70\00:19:27.96 That's between you and God. 00:19:28.00\00:19:29.30 It doesn't give us our basis for truth. 00:19:29.33\00:19:32.30 You know what I'm saying? 00:19:32.33\00:19:33.57 The Bible truth is very clear: They are sleeping a painless, 00:19:33.60\00:19:37.91 dreamless sleep until the resurrection. 00:19:37.94\00:19:41.81 "How does the Bible repeatedly refer to death?" 00:19:41.84\00:19:46.18 John 11:11 and verse 14, Jesus, speaking of Lazarus, he said, 00:19:46.21\00:19:51.55 "Our friend Lazarus sleeps," and the disciples said, 00:19:51.59\00:19:54.86 "It's good that he's asleep. 00:19:54.89\00:19:56.19 He's sick. 00:19:56.22\00:19:57.53 You know, if he sleeps, maybe the fever will break, 00:19:57.56\00:19:58.86 and he'll be better." 00:19:58.89\00:20:00.20 Jesus said, "No, no, Lazarus is dead." 00:20:00.23\00:20:01.93 Jesus actually used the term "sleep," and He had to say, 00:20:01.96\00:20:04.07 "You don't understand what I mean by 'sleep.' 00:20:04.10\00:20:05.80 I mean, he's dead." 00:20:05.83\00:20:08.17 Then later, He said, "I'm going that I might wake him." 00:20:08.20\00:20:10.77 Jesus goes down to Bethany where Lazarus is buried. 00:20:10.81\00:20:13.48 It takes a few days to get there, 00:20:13.51\00:20:15.18 and when He tells Martha to roll away the stone from the grave, 00:20:15.21\00:20:18.88 she says, "Lord, by this time, 00:20:18.91\00:20:20.85 there's a bad odor because the decomposition has begun. 00:20:20.88\00:20:24.15 He's been dead for several days." 00:20:24.19\00:20:26.02 He said, "'Trust me. Roll away the stone.' 00:20:26.05\00:20:28.12 And when Jesus said these things, 00:20:28.16\00:20:30.49 He cried out with a loud voice," John 11:43, 00:20:30.53\00:20:34.00 "'Lazarus, come forth.' 00:20:34.00\00:20:36.16 And he who had died came out bound hand and foot 00:20:36.20\00:20:39.07 with graveclothes" that had been embalmed 00:20:39.10\00:20:41.47 and soaked in ointments. 00:20:41.50\00:20:43.94 Now, think for a minute: If Lazarus had been dead 00:20:43.97\00:20:49.84 for several days and if you go right to heaven when you die, 00:20:49.88\00:20:53.45 and if he's a good friend of Jesus, 00:20:53.48\00:20:54.85 he probably went to heaven, right? 00:20:54.88\00:20:57.35 If you're Lazarus and you die and you're in heaven, 00:20:57.39\00:21:00.52 and you're up there, and you're hearing angelic music, 00:21:00.56\00:21:03.49 and you're, you know-- got this glorified body, 00:21:03.53\00:21:06.93 and you're in the presence of God, and you see 00:21:06.96\00:21:08.73 there's golden streets and all these wonders of heaven, 00:21:08.76\00:21:11.37 and you're just reaching out for the tree of life, 00:21:11.40\00:21:13.80 and all of a sudden, "poof," you're back on earth, 00:21:13.84\00:21:15.97 and you're wrapped up in graveclothes, 00:21:16.00\00:21:18.17 would you think that was a nice thing that Jesus did for you? 00:21:18.21\00:21:22.31 Oh, that wouldn't be very nice. 00:21:22.34\00:21:24.81 You know, there are about a dozen resurrections 00:21:24.85\00:21:28.22 in the Bible, and the reason I say, "about," is because, 00:21:28.25\00:21:31.32 when Paul was stoned, some believe that Paul actually 00:21:31.35\00:21:35.79 was raised by the Lord. 00:21:35.82\00:21:37.13 He had been stoned to death, but God raised him back up again 00:21:37.16\00:21:38.86 because everyone who walked away thought he was dead, 00:21:38.89\00:21:41.76 and when Eutychus fell out the window, everyone said, 00:21:41.80\00:21:45.83 "He's dead," and the pulse, you know, his life was still in him. 00:21:45.87\00:21:48.24 They wondered, "Was that a resurrection?" 00:21:48.27\00:21:49.70 So it's hard sometimes to count a few of them, 00:21:49.74\00:21:51.07 but there are at least 12 resurrections in the Bible. 00:21:51.11\00:21:53.51 Do you realize that in all of these resurrections, 00:21:53.54\00:21:57.35 not one of the people involved ever comments 00:21:57.38\00:22:00.38 and says anything about what they experienced in death? 00:22:00.42\00:22:04.25 Now, if Lazarus was alive today and he had been dead 00:22:04.29\00:22:08.52 for four days, and somebody came back from the dead, 00:22:08.56\00:22:13.36 every news station in the world would have representatives 00:22:13.40\00:22:16.90 that would be there. 00:22:16.93\00:22:18.23 They would push a microphone up into Lazarus's face, 00:22:18.27\00:22:20.47 and they'd say, "What was it like? 00:22:20.50\00:22:22.90 What did you experience? What happened?" 00:22:22.94\00:22:25.64 But none of the Jews anywhere in the Bible comment 00:22:25.67\00:22:27.61 on any of these resurrections, saying, 00:22:27.64\00:22:29.68 "What did you experience in death?" 00:22:29.71\00:22:31.21 Because they all knew that death was like a--" what? 00:22:31.25\00:22:33.82 "Sleep." 00:22:33.85\00:22:35.42 It is a dreamless sleep. 00:22:35.45\00:22:36.75 They didn't know anything. 00:22:36.79\00:22:38.09 Solomon said, "The dead know--" how much? 00:22:38.12\00:22:39.72 "Nothing." 00:22:39.75\00:22:41.46 That, to me, I think, is pretty strong evidence. 00:22:41.49\00:22:44.63 The Bible tells us that none of the resurrection 00:22:44.66\00:22:47.03 has ever commented on what they experienced. 00:22:47.10\00:22:50.83 "Why does Satan want us to believe that the spirits 00:22:50.87\00:22:53.17 of the dead are actually alive?" 00:22:53.20\00:22:56.97 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show 00:22:57.01\00:23:00.54 great signs and wonders," Bible tells us, if it were possible, 00:23:00.58\00:23:04.61 "to deceive, even if possible, the elect." 00:23:04.65\00:23:08.88 Jesus says, "See, I'm telling you beforehand, 00:23:08.92\00:23:11.59 do not be deceived by these evil spirits." 00:23:11.62\00:23:15.32 Three unclean frogs, and they're going to claim to be 00:23:15.36\00:23:19.16 the spirits of the departed. 00:23:19.19\00:23:20.76 They're going to deceive leaders of the world. 00:23:20.80\00:23:22.90 "How effective will Satan's use of these evil spirits be 00:23:22.93\00:23:25.97 in the last days?" 00:23:26.00\00:23:27.87 Answer? 00:23:27.90\00:23:29.70 "By your sorceries, all the nations were deceived." 00:23:29.74\00:23:34.38 I just told you that, in North America, 00:23:34.41\00:23:36.24 50%, roughly 50%, 45% of the people believe in ghosts, 00:23:36.28\00:23:43.52 and about 20% believe you can communicate with the dead. 00:23:43.55\00:23:46.29 That's frightening when you think about it how easily 00:23:46.32\00:23:49.19 so many people will be deceived by that. 00:23:49.22\00:23:52.06 Some will start believing in it but don't believe in 00:23:52.09\00:23:53.96 it now when the devil begins to perform these signs and wonders. 00:23:54.00\00:23:56.83 Revelation 18, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, 00:23:56.87\00:24:01.24 has become the dwelling place of demons, 00:24:01.27\00:24:03.94 a prison for every foul--" 00:24:03.97\00:24:06.84 the word "foul" there means "evil spirit." 00:24:06.88\00:24:09.28 Paul says, "We do not wrestle against flesh and blood 00:24:09.31\00:24:11.68 but principalities and powers and rulers of wickedness 00:24:11.71\00:24:13.88 in high places." 00:24:13.92\00:24:16.28 Well, there are evil spirits that are out there that want 00:24:16.32\00:24:18.75 to deceive, and they're going to use the belief that 00:24:18.79\00:24:21.12 the dead aren't really dead to deceive people. 00:24:21.16\00:24:24.89 The Bible says in Revelation 12:9, "That serpent of old, 00:24:24.93\00:24:28.13 called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world." 00:24:28.16\00:24:32.80 What was the first deception that Satan made? 00:24:32.83\00:24:38.97 God said, "You disobey, you will die." 00:24:39.01\00:24:41.61 What did the devil say? 00:24:41.64\00:24:43.45 "You will not really die." 00:24:43.48\00:24:45.75 And what does most of the world believe? 00:24:45.78\00:24:48.32 That you don't really die. 00:24:48.35\00:24:50.52 Even in churches, pastors are saying, "You don't really die. 00:24:50.55\00:24:53.52 You live forever. 00:24:53.56\00:24:55.72 Somewhere, you just can't die. 00:24:55.76\00:24:57.46 You're immortal." 00:24:57.49\00:24:58.96 The Bible says, you're going to sleep until the resurrection. 00:24:58.99\00:25:02.40 "How does God regard these miracles by evil angels?" 00:25:02.43\00:25:05.60 "A man or a woman who is a medium shall surely be put 00:25:05.63\00:25:09.07 to death." 00:25:09.10\00:25:10.41 Now, I'm not expecting you to go on a rampage 00:25:10.44\00:25:12.24 through the community and fulfill that. 00:25:12.27\00:25:14.64 Just telling you that, when they lived under a theocracy, 00:25:14.68\00:25:16.85 it was the most severe penalty for mediums. 00:25:16.88\00:25:20.98 I'm not suggesting we revive the Salem witch trials. 00:25:21.02\00:25:23.65 Everyone clear on that? 00:25:23.69\00:25:26.32 But there was a pretty severe punishment. 00:25:26.35\00:25:29.42 Some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits 00:25:29.46\00:25:33.06 and doctrines of devils." 00:25:33.09\00:25:35.53 And, again, "having no fellowship 00:25:35.56\00:25:37.93 with the unfruitful works of darkness." 00:25:37.97\00:25:40.37 Someone asked last night how I felt about Halloween, 00:25:40.40\00:25:43.20 and I said, "I don't want to have any fellowship 00:25:43.24\00:25:44.94 with the unfruitful works of darkness," 00:25:44.97\00:25:47.41 Ephesians 5, verse 11. 00:25:47.44\00:25:49.31 "Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are adultery, 00:25:49.34\00:25:52.48 fornication, uncleanness, lewdness," and notice, 00:25:52.51\00:25:55.28 "not only idolatry, sorcery." 00:25:55.32\00:25:59.09 "By her sorceries, all nations are deceived," 00:25:59.12\00:26:02.02 it says, regarding Babylon the great, 00:26:02.06\00:26:04.36 and then it fills out that verse in Galatians chapter 5, 00:26:04.39\00:26:07.30 "Sorcerers will have their part in the lake that burns with fire 00:26:07.36\00:26:10.60 and brimstone, which is the second death." 00:26:10.63\00:26:13.47 It's a pretty severe thing, and, yet there are Christians 00:26:13.50\00:26:16.24 that are promoting sorceries, saying that you can talk 00:26:16.27\00:26:18.21 to the dead. 00:26:18.24\00:26:20.34 "What glorious power does God offer to His people 00:26:20.38\00:26:23.48 in the last days?" 00:26:23.51\00:26:25.45 The power that he's offering us as a gift is the power 00:26:25.48\00:26:28.52 of His resurrection, "That I might know Him 00:26:28.55\00:26:31.35 and the power of His Resurrection." 00:26:31.39\00:26:33.66 Friends, I want to get that new glorified body, don't you? 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