Amazing Facts with Doug Batchelor

The Mystery of the Trinity

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00:04 AMAZING FACTS MINISTRY.
00:14 >>IN OUR MESSAGE TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE
00:17 MYSTERY OF THE TRINITY. THERE ARE THREE DIVINE EQUAL,
00:22 ETERNAL PERSONS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN YOUR CREATION
00:29 AND IN YOUR REDEMPTION.
00:35 >>IN OUR MESSAGE TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE
00:38 MYSTERY OF THE TRINITY. THE TRINITY IS PROBABLY ONE OF
00:44 THE DEEPEST AND MOST SUBLIME, PROFOUND SUBJECTS THAT WE COULD
00:49 EXPLORE. IN OUR PRAYER, PREPARING FOR THE
00:53 SERVICE, OUR BROTHER JUST SAID 'WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO PASTOR
00:57 DOUG EXPLAINING THIS MYSTERY.' I WANT TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IT
01:01 WILL STILL BE A MYSTERY WHEN THE SERMON IS OVER.
01:04 SO I'M NOT GOING TO PRESUME THAT I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO UNLOCK
01:10 ALL THE MYSTERIES OF GOD FOR YOU.
01:12 THIS IS A MYSTERY THAT WE WILL DELVE INTO A LITTLE BIT TOGETHER
01:15 AND THERE'LL BE MANY THINGS THAT ARE STILL VERY MYSTERIOUS
01:18 ABOUT IT. IT'S LIKE YOU AND I TRYING TO
01:21 LOOK AT THE COSMOS THROUGH A MAGNIFYING GLASS.
01:24 WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE IT ALL IN.
01:27 SO IN THE BIBLE, WHEN WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE MYSTERY OF THE
01:31 TRINITY, WE'RE VENTURING ON HOLY GROUND.
01:36 IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO TAKE MY
01:38 SHOES OFF DURING THIS SERMON. THE CARPET WOULD FEEL PRETTY
01:41 GOOD, I KNOW, BUT IT MIGHT BE A DISTRACTION FOR YOU.
01:47 BUT IT IS HOLY GROUND AND THE BIBLE'S PRETTY CLEAR:
01:50 WE CANNOT UNDERSTAND GOD.
01:52 LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A FEW VERSES.
01:53 IN FACT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A PENCIL HANDY, WE'LL BE LOOKING
01:57 AT A LOT OF SCRIPTURE TODAY AND I'LL BE READING THEM QUICKLY
02:00 SO AS TO COVER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
02:02 "'FOR MY THOUGHTS ARE NOT YOUR THOUGHTS, NOR ARE YOUR WAYS MY
02:06 WAYS,' SAYS THE LORD, 'FOR AS THE HEAVENS ARE HIGHER THAN THE
02:09 EARTH, SO ARE MY WAYS HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS, AND MY THOUGHTS
02:13 THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.'" GOD IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN WE CAN
02:17 COMPREHEND. PSALM 145, VERSE 3, "GREAT IS THE LORD, AND GREATLY
02:22 TO BE PRAISED; AND HIS GREATNESS IS UNSEARCHABLE."
02:26 NOW, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SAVED - AND I PRAY I AM - I PRAY YOU ARE
02:31 - THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE, RIGHT?
02:34 YOU'LL LIVE FOR HOW LONG? FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER.
02:40 WILL YOU EVER SAY 'I UNDERSTAND GOD'?
02:44 SO IF THROUGH ETERNITY WE KNOW THAT WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO
02:47 FULLY COMPREHEND GOD - YOU HAVE TO BE GOD TO UNDERSTAND GOD -
02:52 THEN HOW MUCH CAN WE KNOW IN THIS LIFE?
02:54 BUT THE LORD DOES WANT US TO KNOW WHAT HE'S REVEALED.
02:58 BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A BIG SUBJECT AND WE'RE NOT
03:00 CLAIMING THAT WE CAN UNPACK IT FOR YOU.
03:03 AGAIN, ROMANS 11:33, "OH, THE DEPTH OF THE RICHES BOTH OF THE
03:07 WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE OF GOD! HOW UNSEARCHABLE ARE HIS
03:11 JUDGMENTS AND HIS WAYS PAST FINDING OUT?"
03:15 PAST FINDING OUT. JOB 26:14, "INDEED THESE ARE THE
03:20 MERE EDGES OF HIS WAYS, AND HOW SMALL A WHISPER WE HEAR OF HIM!
03:25 BUT THE THUNDER OF HIS POWER WHO CAN UNDERSTAND?"
03:29 HERE IN THIS WORLD WE JUST GET A FRAGMENT OF A WHISPER OF WHAT
03:33 THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT GOD, BUT WHO CAN COMPREHEND THE THUNDER?
03:36 'WHAT'S THUNDER COMPARED TO A WHISPER?'
03:39 - IS WHAT JOB IS SAYING. WHO CAN UNDERSTAND?
03:42 JOHN WESLEY SAID, 'BRING ME A WORM THAT CAN COMPREHEND A MAN
03:47 AND I'LL SHOW YOU A MAN THAT CAN COMPREHEND THE TRIUNE GOD.' SO I
03:51 JUST WANTED TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK HERE THAT I'M NOT
03:54 PRETENDING THAT I'M NOW GOING TO REVEAL THE MYSTERY OF GOD OR THE
03:57 TRINITY, BUT LET'S LOOK AT SOME THINGS THAT ARE REVEALED IN THE
04:01 BIBLE AND UNDERSTAND THIS AS WELL AS WE CAN.
04:03 NOW THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SUBJECT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
04:07 DO YOU KNOW WARS HAVE BEEN FOUGHT OVER THIS SUBJECT?
04:10 IT'S BEEN - NATIONS HAVE BEEN ERADICATED BECAUSE OF
04:15 DISAGREEMENTS OVER THE BELIEF OF THE SUBJECT.
04:18 NOW SOMEONE'S GOING TO SAY, 'DOUG, YOU'RE TEACHING A
04:20 DOCTRINE THAT'S NOT EVEN IN THE BIBLE.
04:22 YOU DON'T FIND THE WORD TRINITY IN THE BIBLE.' THAT'S TRUE.
04:24 YOU DO NOT FIND THE WORD 'TRINITY' IN THE BIBLE.
04:27 THE WORD 'TRINITY' SIMPLY MEANS 'TRI' - LIKE A TRICYCLE HAS HOW
04:30 MANY WHEELS? THREE. TRI-'ENTITY' - THREE ENTITIES.
04:34 IT'S TALKING - IT'S A WORD THAT WE USE TO DESCRIBE THE DOCTRINE
04:36 OF THE THREE ENTITIES IN THE GODHEAD.
04:39 THE BIBLE DOES USE THE WORD 'GODHEAD'.
04:41 THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE WORD TRINITY.
04:43 YOU DON'T FIND THE WORD. RAPTURE IN THE BIBLE.
04:45 YOU DON'T FIND THE WORD 'BIBLE' IN THE BIBLE.
04:49 SO WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE BIBLE BECAUSE THE WORD 'BIBLE'
04:51 IS NOT IN THE BIBLE?
04:52 THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS THAT WE DON'T FIND, PER SE - MILLENNIUM
04:55 IS NOT IN THE BIBLE BUT IF WE TALK ABOUT THE DOCTRINE OF THE
04:58 MILLENNIUM IT TALKS ABOUT THE THOUSAND-YEAR PERIOD THAT YOU
05:01 SEE THERE IN REVELATION CHAPTER 20 AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF TERMS
05:04 THAT WE USE - THEOLOGICAL TERMS TO DISCUSS VARIOUS DOCTRINES AND
05:08 THIS IS CALLED THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY - THE THREE ENTITIES
05:11 THAT COMPOSE THE BIBLE GOD. AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE
05:16 DISCUSSING. THERE'S NO CONFLICT IN THAT.
05:18 LET ME GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES IN THE BIBLE.
05:22 MATTHEW 28 - SOME OF THE LAST WORDS OF JESUS.
05:25 AFTER HE SENDS THE DISCIPLES INTO THE WORLD HE SAYS, IN
05:28 MATTHEW 28:19, "GO THEREFORE AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL THE
05:32 NATIONS, BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE
05:37 SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT." NOW, IT IS TRUE, IN THE NEW
05:42 TESTAMENT, IN THE BOOK OF ACTS, WHEN THE DISCIPLES WENT OUT IT
05:45 SAYS THEY WENT AND THEY BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD OR IN
05:48 THE NAME OF THE LORD, JESUS OR IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
05:51 BUT JESUS DEFINITELY SAID, 'THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON, AND
05:54 HOLY SPIRIT.' THAT TELLS ME, SOMETIMES, THAT THE EXACT
05:57 WORDING IN THE BAPTISM IS NOT THE BIG ISSUE; IT'S THAT YOU'RE
06:01 GETTING BAPTIZED INTO THE NAME OF THE GOD OF THE BIBLE.
06:06 AND JESUS SAID, 'FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT'
06:08 AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME, AMEN?
06:10 NOW, HERE'S THE QUESTION: CAN GOD BE BIBLICALLY ACCURATE
06:14 SAYING - COULD THE BIBLE BE ACCURATE - CAN CHRISTIANS BE
06:17 RIGHT SAYING, 'THERE'S ONE GOD' AND YET SAYING, 'ONE DOESN'T
06:22 ALWAYS MEAN ONE.' NOW THAT'S THE THING TO UNDERSTAND.
06:27 NOW THIS ISN'T DOUBLE TALK, THIS IS GOOD SCRIPTURE.
06:29 AGAIN, I'M JUST GIVING YOU A FEW VERSES. FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT IN
06:31 THE BEGINNING - GENESIS 1:26 - GOD SAYS, "LET US MAKE MAN
06:37 IN OUR IMAGE, ACCORDING TO OUR LIKENESS."
06:40 NOW, DO YOU HEAR MORE THAN ONE IN THAT?
06:43 DO YOU KNOW THE WORD THAT'S USED THERE IN HEBREW FOR GOD IS
06:46 ELOHIM. THAT WORD 'ELOHIM' IS PLURAL.
06:50 IT'S LIKE 'WE' - 'US' - WHENEVER I SAY THAT THEN - IF I SAY, 'WE
06:56 ARE GOING TO THE STORE.' KAREN WOULD SAY, 'WHO ARE YOU GOING
06:58 WITH?' I WOULD SAY, 'I'M TALKING ABOUT
07:00 MYSELF.' YOU WOULD SAY, 'WHAT'S WRONG?
07:02 DOUG'S TALKING ABOUT 'WE' - HAS HE BECOME SCHIZOPHRENIC?
07:05 HAS HE GOT SPLIT PERSONALITY PROBLEMS?'
07:08 SO WHEN GOD SAYS THIS IT'S NOT BECAUSE GOD IS CONFUSED, THE
07:14 PRIMARY WORD USED FOR 'GOD' OVER 2,700 TIMES IN THE BIBLE IS
07:19 'ELOHIM' - IT'S THE PLURAL. THERE'S THE OTHER WORD 'EL'
07:22 WHICH IS SINGULAR, BUT THE INSPIRED WRITERS CHOSE TO USE
07:26 'ELOHIM' TEN TIMES MORE THAN 'EL'.
07:31 THIS IS ALL THROUGH THE - MOSTLY OLD TESTAMENT. IT'S A PLURAL.
07:35 GOD HAS COMMUNICATED HIMSELF TO US AS A PLURAL GOD BECAUSE HE IS
07:39 COMPOSED OF THESE THREE PERSONS. NOW THIS IS A MYSTERY AND IT MAY
07:44 STILL BE A MYSTERY WHEN WE'RE DONE.
07:46 AND THEN, OF COURSE, - AND SOME PEOPLE CHALLENGE THIS VERSE BUT
07:49 IT'S IN THE BIBLE. I BELIEVE IT.
07:50 1 JOHN 5:7, "FOR THERE ARE THREE THAT BEAR WITNESS IN HEAVEN: THE
07:55 FATHER," - THAT'S FATHER - GOD THE FATHER - "THE WORD," - JESUS
07:58 IS THE WORD BECOME FLESH - "AND THE HOLY SPIRIT; AND THESE THREE
08:02 ARE ONE." THAT'S HARD TO MISUNDERSTAND.
08:06 THE THREE ARE ONE.
08:09 JOHN 17:20 - NOW THIS IS, I THINK, THE BEST EXAMPLE.
08:12 THIS IS IN THE SPECIAL INTERCESSORY PRAYER OF JESUS -
08:16 JOHN 17:20 - I'LL READ ALSO VERSE 21.
08:19 CHRIST SAID, "I DO NOT PRAY FOR THESE ALONE, BUT ALSO FOR THOSE
08:22 WHO WILL BELIEVE IN ME THROUGH THEIR WORD;" - WHAT'S HE
08:25 PRAYING? - "THAT THE ALL MAY BE ONE."
08:28 - NOW HE'S PRAYING FOR THE TWELVE APOSTLES AND HE'S PRAYING
08:29 THAT THEY CAN BE ONE. HOW? - "AS YOU, FATHER, ARE IN ME,
08:35 AND I IN YOU." - NOTICE, GOD IS IN JESUS AND
08:38 JESUS IS IN GOD. THAT'S GOING TO COME UP LATER.
08:42 - "THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE" - THERE IT IS AGAIN - "IN US, THAT
08:47 THE WORLD MAY BELIEVE THAT YOU SENT ME."
08:50 SO YOU'VE GOT A NATION THAT'S ONE.
08:51 YOU'VE GOT THE APOSTLES ARE ONE. YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE THAT'S ONE,
08:53 BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S MANY PERSONS INVOLVED IN THOSE.
08:56 SO IT'S NOT INCONSISTENT FOR US TO SAY THAT THERE'S ONE GOD, BUT
09:01 IN THE CHRISTIAN - ONE GOD - IT IS COMPOSED OF THREE PERSONS.
09:06 NOW, I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT 'IS JESUS GOD AND IS
09:10 THE HOLY SPIRIT GOD?' YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR ME TALK
09:13 A LOT ABOUT 'IS GOD THE FATHER GOD?' YOU KNOW WHY?
09:15 I'VE NEVER RUN INTO ANYBODY THAT HAS THAT PROBLEM.
09:20 MOST CHRISTIANS AGREE THAT GOD THE FATHER IS GOD - THAT HE GETS
09:25 TO BE THE SUPREME GOD AND HE'S ALWAYS BEEN - THOUGH, YOU KNOW,
09:31 THERE ARE, ACTUALLY, SOME WHO BELIEVE THAT THE GOD WHO MADE
09:34 OUR UNIVERSE ONCE WAS A LOWER GOD BUT HE'S WORKED HIS WAY UP
09:39 TO BEING A BIGGER GOD AND THERE ARE OTHER GODS ABOVE HIM - IF
09:42 YOU COULD GO FAR ENOUGH INTO SPACE YOU'D FIND THEM.
09:45 THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT WOULD IMPLY THAT GOD IS LEARNING
09:52 AND HOW COULD YOU KNOW EVERYTHING AND STILL LEARN?
09:56 ASK A TEENAGER (LAUGHTER) IN HIGH SCHOOL.
10:02 SO GOD, OBVIOUSLY, IF HE KNOWS EVERYTHING, AND IF HE IS
10:06 ALMIGHTY, HOW CAN HE BE MIGHTIER THAN ALMIGHTY?
10:11 BUT MOST PEOPLE AGREE THAT GOD IS SUPREME, BUT THEY STRUGGLE
10:15 WITH 'WHAT IS THE ROLE OF JESUS AND WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE
10:18 SPIRIT?' BY THE WAY, ANOTHER VIEW OF
10:22 ARIANISM IS THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT A PERSON - NOT ONLY THAT
10:26 HE WAS CREATED BY JESUS - BUT THAT HE'S NOT A PERSON BUT HE'S
10:29 'THE FORCE' - KIND OF AN IMPERSONAL FORCE
10:32 THAT GOD WORKS THROUGH.
10:34 AND SO, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE CONCEPTS.
10:38 FIRST OF ALL, IS JESUS FULLY GOD?
10:44 WELL, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
10:46 MATTHEW 1:23, "'THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL,' WHICH IS
10:50 TRANSLATED, 'GOD WITH US.'" THE INCARNATION IS GOD - FULLY A
10:58 HUNDRED PERCENT GOD BECOMING A MAN - THAT'S A MYSTERY.
11:01 YOU'VE GOT A MYSTERY OF GODLINESS IN THE BIBLE AND
11:03 THAT'S HOW GOD BECAME A MAN. YOU HAVE A MYSTERY OF INIQUITY
11:06 IN THE BIBLE AND THAT'S HOW A CREATURE - THE DEVIL -
11:09 WANTED TO BE GOD. HOW COULD THE CREATURE THINK,
11:12 'I CAN OVERTHROW THE CREATOR'? THAT'S A CRAZY THOUGHT.
11:15 THAT'S A MYSTERY TO ME - HOW THE DEVIL THINKS THAT HE CAN SOMEHOW
11:17 LAUNCH A WAR - HE'S A CREATION - AGAINST HIS CREATOR.
11:21 HOW SOMETHING THAT HAD A LIMITED EXISTENCE COULD LAUNCH A WAR AND
11:26 SAY, 'I AM GOING TO TAKE OVER THE PLACE OF THE ONE WHO IS
11:29 SELF-EXISTENT AND ETERNAL. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
11:33 BUT THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
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12:10 >> SO THERE'S THE MYSTERY OF GOD - GOD LOWERING HIMSELF AND
12:13 BECOMING A MAN - AND THERE'S THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY - THE
12:16 CREATURE TRYING TO EXALT HIMSELF AND BECOME GOD.
12:20 WHAT DID THE DEVIL SAY TO ADAM AND EVE?
12:22 'LISTEN TO ME, YOU'LL BE LIKE GOD.' WHY DID HE SAY THAT?
12:25 THAT'S WHAT HE WANTED. PEOPLE OFTEN SUPERIMPOSE ON
12:29 OTHERS THEIR DESIRES. HEBREWS 1:8, IS JESUS GOD?
12:34 "BUT UNTO THE SON HE SAITH, 'THY THRONE, O GOD.'" NOW WAIT A
12:38 SECOND - HEBREWS 1:8, "BUT UNTO THE SON" - GOD, THE FATHER -
12:42 "UNTO THE SON HE SAITH, 'THY THRONE, O GOD.'" TO THE SON, THE
12:46 FATHER SAYS, 'THY THRONE, O GOD IS FOREVER AND EVER.' SO WHAT
12:50 DOES THE FATHER CALL THE SON? 'O GOD'. "FOR EVER AND EVER:
12:55 A SCEPTER OF RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE SCEPTER OF THY KINGDOM."
12:58 WHEN JESUS AROSE FROM THE DEAD - REMEMBER, THE FIRST WEEK HE
13:03 APPEARED THOMAS MISSED IT - HE SAID, 'I WON'T BELIEVE UNTIL I
13:08 SEE THE PRINT IN HIS HANDS AND THE SCAR IN HIS SIDE.' AND THEN
13:12 JESUS APPEARED THAT NEXT WEEK AND HE SAID, 'THOMAS, YOU
13:17 BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU'VE SEEN.' THOMAS FALLS DOWN AND YOU KNOW
13:19 WHAT HE SAYS? "MY LORD AND MY GOD." BY THE WAY,
13:23 THAT'S JOHN 20, VERSE 26 AND ON THROUGH VERSE 29.
13:27 AND DID JESUS SAY, 'NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, DON'T SAY THAT.
13:30 LET'S NOT GET CARRIED AWAY.' OR DID HE ACCEPT THAT?
13:33 'MY LORD AND MY GOD' HE CALLED JESUS BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.
13:38 NOW, QUICKLY, SOME DEFINITIONS: THE BIBLE SAYS WE SHOULD ONLY
13:42 WORSHIP GOD. IS THAT ONE OF THE COMMANDMENTS?
13:45 EVEN JESUS CITED THAT BACK TO SATAN.
13:47 MATTHEW 28 - SHOULD WE WORSHIP JESUS?
13:50 "AND AS THEY WENT TO TELL HIS DISCIPLES, BEHOLD, JESUS MET
13:54 THEM, SAYING 'ALL HAIL.'" - HAIL MEANS 'WORSHIP' - "AND THEY CAME
13:59 AND HELD HIM BY THE FEET, AND WORSHIPPED HIM."
14:02 AND HE RECEIVED THE WORSHIP.
14:04 BUT THE BIBLE SAYS ONLY WORSHIP GOD.
14:06 HEBREWS 1:6 - IT SAYS WE'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO WORSHIP GOD BUT ALL
14:10 THE ANGELS WORSHIP JESUS - THAT'S IN HEBREWS 1:6.
14:14 REVELATION 7:11 - YOU CAN REMEMBER THAT - THAT'S THE
14:19 CONVENIENT VERSE IN REVELATION - "AND ALL THE ANGELS STOOD ROUND
14:23 ABOUT THE THRONE, AND ABOUT THE ELDERS AND THE FOUR BEASTS, AND
14:26 FELL BEFORE THE THRONE ON THEIR FACES, AND WORSHIPPED GOD."
14:31 SO THE ANGELS WORSHIPPED GOD AND, YET, IT SAYS THE ANGELS
14:33 WORSHIPPED JESUS. WELL, IF JESUS IS GOD, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
14:37 YOU CAN ONLY WORSHIP HIM - YOU CAN ONLY WORSHIP GOD - BUT IF
14:42 THEY WORSHIPPED JESUS HE MUST BE GOD. THE BIBLE SAYS GOD CREATED.
14:47 YOU'VE READ THE FIRST VERSE IN THE BIBLE BEFORE - 'IN THE
14:50 BEGINNING GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH.'
14:52 ALRIGHT, WHO IS THAT GOD THAT CREATED?
14:54 1 JOHN - NOT 1 JOHN, SORRY - JOHN CHAPTER 1, VERSE 1, "IN THE
14:59 BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, AND THE WORD
15:02 WAS GOD." - WHO IS THAT WORD?
15:05 THE WORD BECAME FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US - THAT'S JESUS, RIGHT?
15:08 - "THE SAME WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD.
15:10 ALL THINGS" - AND THIS IS VERY CLEAR IN THE GREEK - "ALL THINGS
15:14 WERE MADE BY HIM; AND WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANY THING MADE THAT
15:21 WAS MADE." NOTHING WAS MADE THAT WAS MADE, WITHOUT JESUS.
15:24 THAT MEANS THAT JESUS WAS NOT MADE. HE HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.
15:29 HE SAYS, 'I AM THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA.' THAT MEANS AS FAR AS YOU
15:32 CAN GO - THE BEGINNING AND THE END - AS FAR AS YOU CAN GO IN
15:34 THAT DIRECTION - AS FAR AS YOU CAN GO - 'ETERNITY TO ETERNITY
15:37 I AM GOD' - HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
15:40 HEBREWS 1, VERSES 1 AND 2, "GOD, WHO AT VARIOUS TIMES AND IN
15:44 VARIOUS WAYS SPOKE IN TIME PAST TO THE FATHERS BY THE PROPHETS,
15:47 HAS IN THESE LAST DAYS SPOKEN TO US BY HIS SON, WHOM HE HAS
15:51 APPOINTED HEIR OF ALL THINGS, THROUGH WHOM ALSO HE MADE THE
15:54 WORLDS;" IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED. JESUS IS GOD.
16:00 EPHESIANS 3:9, "AND TO MAKE ALL SEE WHAT IS THE FELLOWSHIP OF
16:05 THE MYSTERY, WHICH FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE AGES HAS BEEN
16:08 HIDDEN IN GOD WHO CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST;"
16:14 JESUS IS GOD AND GOD MADE ALL THINGS.
16:17 THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE SAVIOR - THAT GOD IS
16:20 OUR SAVIOR. ISAIAH 43 - ONE SAVIOR - 43,
16:26 VERSE 11 - ISAIAH, "I, EVEN I, AM THE LORD, AND BESIDES ME
16:31 THERE IS NO SAVIOR." BUT WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY?
16:35 JUDE 25, "TO GOD OUR SAVIOR" - SO ONLY ONE SAVIOR - GOD IS OUR
16:41 SAVIOR IN JUDE 25 AND THERE ARE MANY VERSES IN THE NEW
16:45 TESTAMENT, INCLUDING THIS ONE, 1 JOHN 4:14, THAT SAY JESUS IS OUR
16:49 SAVIOR - "AND WE HAVE SEEN AND TESTIFY THAT THE FATHER HAS SENT
16:52 THE SON AS SAVIOR OF THE WORLD." NOW, AM I MAKING SENSE?
16:57 THERE'S ONLY ONE SAVIOR - GOD IS OUR SAVIOR - AND THE BIBLE SAYS
17:01 JESUS IS OUR SAVIOR. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN RECONCILE
17:04 THOSE IS TO SAY JESUS IS GOD. SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
17:08 SO DID JESUS CLAIM EQUALITY WITH GOD? WOULDN'T THAT SETTLE IT?
17:15 NOTICE - JOHN 5:17 AND VERSE 18, "BUT JESUS ANSWERED THEM, 'MY
17:21 FATHER HAS BEEN WORKING UNTIL NOW, AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING.'
17:24 THEREFORE THE JEWS SOUGHT ALL THE MORE TO KILL HIM, BECAUSE HE
17:27 NOT ONLY BROKE THE SABBATH," - OR AT LEAST THEY ACCUSED HIM OF
17:29 THAT - "BUT ALSO SAID THAT GOD WAS HIS FATHER, MAKING HIMSELF
17:33 EQUAL WITH GOD." I MEAN, JESUS KNEW WHAT HE WAS
17:37 SAYING AND THE JEWS KNEW WHY THEY WANTED TO KILL HIM.
17:40 AGAIN, JOHN 10:30, "I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE."
17:45 SO THERE, AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE IDEA OF, CAN GOD BE ONE AND
17:50 STILL BE MORE THAN ONE PERSON? THEN THE JEWS TOOK UP STONES TO
17:53 STONE HIM AGAIN BECAUSE THEY KNEW WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT.
17:58 JOHN 14:9, "JESUS SAID TO HIM, 'HAVE I BEEN WITH YOU SO LONG,
18:01 AND YET YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ME, PHILIP?
18:03 HE WHO HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER, SO HOW CAN YOU SAY,
18:07 'SHOW US THE FATHER?' " IT SAYS, 'WE'RE THE SAME.'
18:11 NOW, WHAT EVERYONE GETS STUMPED ON - IF YOU TALK TO AN ATHEIST
18:15 ABOUT GOD OR AN AGNOSTIC AND THEY SAY, ALRIGHT, I CAN TELL
18:19 YOU WHERE THE UNIVERSE CAME FROM.
18:21 WHERE DID GOD COME FROM?' I'LL SAY, 'WELL, I DON'T KNOW
18:24 WHERE GOD CAME FROM BUT YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHERE THE UNIVERSE
18:26 CAME FROM BECAUSE WHAT YOU'LL DO IS YOU'LL SAY, 'OUR WORLD CAME
18:29 FROM OUR SOLAR SYSTEM WHEN IT FORMED AND THE SUN EXPLODED AND
18:32 SENT THESE PLANETS SPIRALING OUT INTO SPACE.' 'WHERE'D THE SUN
18:35 COME FROM?' 'WELL,' - THEY'LL SAY - 'THE SUN
18:38 CAME FROM, YOU KNOW, A SUPERNOVA OUT THERE WHEN THERE WAS AN
18:42 EXPLOSION AND ALL THESE SUNS WERE SENT WHIRLING OFF INTO
18:45 SPACE.' I'LL SAY, 'OKAY, WHERE'D THAT COME FROM?'
18:49 'WELL, THESE NEBULOUS GAS PARTICLES COLLIDED AND EXPLODED
18:53 AND THERE WAS A BIG BANG.' I'D SAY, 'ALRIGHT, WHERE'D THE STUFF
18:56 COME FROM - THAT COMBUSTIBLE MATERIAL THAT CAUSED THE BIG
18:59 BANG?' AND, EVENTUALLY, EVOLUTIONISTS, ATHEISTS,
19:05 AGNOSTICS WILL ALL SAY, 'WELL, THERE'S A MYSTERY. SOMETHING
19:08 ALWAYS EXISTED.' SO THEY'RE AT THE SAME PLACE YOU'RE AT.
19:12 THE DIFFERENCE IS OUR SOMETHING THAT ALWAYS EXISTED WAS
19:16 INTELLIGENT AND POWERFUL. THEIRS IS ALL A BIG ACCIDENT.
19:21 SO YOU CAN DESCRIBE EVERYTHING YOU SEE AROUND YOU AS THE RESULT
19:24 OF AN INTELLIGENCE WITH PURPOSE OR JUST A BIG ACCIDENT.
19:27 WE CAN ALL GO HOME NOW AND THERE IS NO PURPOSE TO LIFE.
19:30 SO I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE THERE IS A PURPOSE.
19:32 I SEE TOO MANY THINGS THAT SEEM TO REFLECT INTELLIGENCE.
19:35 SO JESUS HAS ALWAYS EXISTED. JOHN 17:5, "AND NOW, O FATHER,
19:40 GLORIFY ME TOGETHER WITH YOURSELF, WITH THE GLORY WHICH I
19:44 HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD WAS." SEE, JESUS LAID ASIDE
19:47 THE GLORY - THE PERFECT EQUALITY HE SHARED WITH THE FATHER
19:51 BEFORE THE WORLD WAS - HE CAME AND HE LIVED AMONG US.
19:54 HE WAS THEN RECEIVED BACK UP INTO GLORY.
19:57 HE IS, AGAIN, GLORIFIED AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER.
20:00 HE IS A HUNDRED PERCENT GOD.
20:02 SO, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THAT JESUS IS GOD - AND I DIDN'T
20:06 COVER ALL THE EVIDENCE. WHAT ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT?
20:10 NOW, MOST PEOPLE WILL SAY, 'WELL, IF JESUS IS GOD, WE DON'T
20:12 HAVE A PROBLEM BELIEVING THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD, BUT HE'S NOT
20:14 A PERSON, HE'S THE FORCE OF GOD THAT GOD USES' - I THINK THE
20:19 HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD. HE'S NOT JUST AN IMPERSONAL
20:22 VEHICLE, BECAUSE GOD SAYS SO. FIRST OF ALL, IS THE HOLY SPIRIT
20:26 GOD? ACTS 5:3 AND 4 - PETER SAID TO ANANIAS - REMEMBER WHEN
20:31 ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA LIED? - "BUT PETER SAID,
20:35 'ANANIAS, WHY HAS SATAN FILLED YOUR HEART TO
20:37 LIE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT...YOU'VE NOT LIED TO MEN BUT TO GOD."
20:42 WHEN YOU LIE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT YOU'VE LIED TO GOD.
20:44 GOD SAID, "MY SPIRIT SHALL NOT ALWAYS STRIVE WITH MAN."
20:48 GENESIS 6, VERSE 3 - GOD THE SPIRIT. AND I'VE TALKED TO YOU
20:53 ABOUT THE SEVEN SPIRITS AROUND THE THRONE OF GOD.
20:55 IT SAYS THAT THE SPIRIT LEADS US OR GUIDES US.
20:59 IT'S NOT AN IMPERSONAL FORCE THAT LEADS US OR GUIDES US.
21:03 I'VE GOT A GPS IN MY CAR - HAVE YOU - HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE A GPS
21:06 ON YOUR PHONE OR IN YOUR CAR? LET ME JUST SEE. BECAUSE THEY'RE
21:09 MAKING THEIR WAY AROUND. ALRIGHT, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE
21:11 RIDDEN WITH SOMEBODY THAT HAS A GPS?
21:13 I'VE SET A DESTINATION BEFORE, IN MY CAR, MAYBE I'LL GO VISIT
21:16 SOMEBODY - ON THE WAY I'LL SEE A STORE OR I'LL THINK OF SOMETHING
21:20 ELSE - AN ERRAND I NEED TO DO - AND I'LL SAY, 'OH, I DIDN'T KNOW
21:22 THAT STORE WAS HERE.' I'LL TURN OFF AND MY GPS SAYS, 'TURN, MAKE
21:28 CORRECTION, RE-ROUTING, TURN LEFT HERE.' AND I'M THINKING,
21:32 'OH, I'M SORRY, DID I OFFEND YOU?'
21:35 MINE'S A LADY VOICE, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST ALWAYS THINK OF MY
21:40 MOTHER, 'TURN HERE.' 'OKAY.' AND I DON'T WANT TO HURT HER
21:44 FEELINGS SO I'LL TURN. 'I WAS GOING TO GO TO THE STORE
21:47 BUT YOU TOLD ME TO TURN.' IS THAT WHAT I SAY?
21:50 I DON'T CARE WHAT SHE SAYS, IT'S A COMPUTER. IT'S JUST A FORCE,
21:54 RIGHT? I'M NOT GOING TO HURT IT'S FEELINGS.
21:56 I NEVER HEAR IT SAY TO ME, 'OH, COME ON, PLEASE TURN HERE.
22:01 YOU'RE GOING TO HURT MY FEELINGS IF YOU DON'T - I'M GOING TO WEEP
22:04 LITTLE TRANSISTOR TEARS OUT OF MY CIRCUITS IF YOU DON'T TURN
22:08 HERE.' DOES IT CARE? NO. BUT DOES THE HOLY SPIRIT CARE?
22:14 IF HE'S JUST A COMPUTER - IF HE'S JUST AN IMPERSONAL FORCE -
22:17 HE CANNOT BE GRIEVED.
22:20 BUT THE BIBLE SAYS YOU CAN GRIEVE THE SPIRIT.
22:22 MATTER OF FACT, JESUS SAYS - JOHN 16:13, "WHEN HE, THE SPIRIT
22:28 OF TRUTH, HAS COME, HE WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH."
22:32 YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT YEARS AGO, BEFORE GPS, WHEN THE
22:36 ARABS WERE GOING ACROSS SOME OF THESE VAST DESERTS IN SAUDI
22:41 ARABIA, SOMETIMES THEY'D HAVE SANDSTORMS - THEY COULDN'T EVEN
22:43 SEE THE SUN TO DETERMINE EAST FROM WEST.
22:46 IN MANY OF THOSE CARAVANS THEY KEPT A DOVE WITH THEM - A HOMING
22:49 PIGEON - THEY KEPT A THREAD TIED ON ITS LEG AND THEY WOULD
22:55 RELEASE IT AND IT WOULD ALWAYS FLY TOWARDS HOME.
22:58 IT WOULD MAKE A BEELINE TOWARDS HOME AND THEY WOULD HOLD IT IN
23:00 THEIR HAND TO FIND OUT WHICH WAY.
23:02 AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL LEAD US AND HE'LL GUIDE US.
23:05 YOU'LL FEEL, SOMETIMES, THAT TUGGING IN YOUR HEART.
23:07 HE'LL NEVER LEAD YOU CONTRARY TO THE WORD BECAUSE THE HOLY
23:10 SPIRIT IS ONE WITH JESUS WHO IS THE WORD.
23:13 THEY'LL NEVER CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER.
23:15 I'VE MET PEOPLE BEFORE THAT SAY, 'I KNOW THE BIBLE SAYS THIS, BUT
23:20 THE SPIRIT IS TELLING ME...' - AS THOUGH IT'S DIFFERENT OR
23:23 FRESH INFORMATION. THE SPIRIT OF GOD WILL NEVER
23:25 CONFLICT WITH THE WORD OF GOD BECAUSE IT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT
23:28 THAT INSPIRED MEN TO WRITE THE THINGS THAT THEY WROTE.
23:33 ISN'T THAT RIGHT? HOLY MEN WROTE AS THEY WERE
23:36 INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. IT SAYS THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDES
23:40 THEM. YOU KNOW THAT - I THINK THERE'S
23:44 15 TIMES JESUS REFERRED TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AS 'HE'.
23:48 HE COULD HAVE SAID 'IT'. WHY DID HE SAY 'HE'?
23:51 THAT WAS HIS CHOSEN WORD.
23:52 THE BIBLE TELLS US THE HOLY SPIRIT COMFORTS.
23:55 NOW IF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS JUST A POWER, WHO GETS COMFORT FROM,
24:00 YOU KNOW, HUGGING AN ELECTRIC POLE?
24:02 THAT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU COMFORT - IF HE'S JUST A POWER
24:04 WITH NO PERSONALITY. YOU FIND COMFORT FROM A PERSON.
24:09 THE BIBLE SAYS HE CONVICTS. NOW I REMEMBER THE GREATEST
24:14 CONVICTION I FELT WAS SOMETIMES FROM MY GRANDMOTHER'S LOOK.
24:18 AND SHE'D JUST LOOK AT ME - THAT COMES FROM A PERSON.
24:22 JOHN 16:8, "AND WHEN HE HAS COME," - NOTICE, 'HE' - "HE WILL
24:26 CONVICT THE WORLD OF SIN, AND OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND OF JUDGMENT."
24:30 AND IF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS JUST A FORCE, YOU NOTICE WHAT THE
24:33 GREATEST SIN IS? WHAT'S THE SIN THAT CANNOT BE PARDONED?
24:37 BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT.
24:39 MATTHEW 12:31 AND 32, "THEREFORE I SAY TO YOU, EVERY
24:43 SIN AND BLASPHEMY WILL BE FORGIVEN MEN."
24:47 - EVEN IF YOU SIN AGAINST THE SON IT SAID IT'LL BE FORGIVEN,
24:50 BUT BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT CANNOT BE FORGIVEN - IN
24:53 THIS LIFE OR IN THE NEXT. HE'S GRIEVED.
24:55 I MENTIONED THAT ALREADY. EPHESIANS 4:30, "DO NOT GRIEVE
24:59 THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD, BY WHOM YOU WERE SEALED."
25:03 HE'S A REAL FORCE.
25:06 SO THE BIBLE'S REALLY CLEAR THAT THERE IS A TRINITY.
25:09 THERE'S A FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT.
25:11 IT'S NOT ONE GOD THAT CHANGES MASKS. IT'S NOT ONE GOD THAT
25:17 DECIDED TO CREATE LESSER GODS IN JESUS AND THE SPIRIT.
25:21 THERE ARE THREE DIVINE EQUAL ETERNAL PERSONS THAT ARE
25:27 INVOLVED IN YOUR CREATION AND IN YOUR REDEMPTION.
25:31 IT'S NOT JUST THAT JESUS LOVES ME. JESUS SAID THE FATHER,
25:34 HIMSELF, LOVES YOU. GOD THE FATHER SO LOVED THE
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