male announcer: This
presentation is brought
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to you by the friends of
the Amazing Facts Ministry.
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Doug Batchelor: My
friends that believe once saved,
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always saved, they
say, "So, once I am saved,
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it doesn't matter what I do.
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I could, you know, turn from the
Lord and go back to the world,
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and sin like the devil,
but God's promised I am saved."
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So, there's millions of
people out there that have
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this false security.
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It is deadly.
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Doug: Typically,
you come to church,
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and you hear the pastor talk
about how the lost can be saved,
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how the lost can be saved.
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It's a wonderful
message in the Bible,
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and I think everyone here
knows that but in case you don't
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and you're lost, I want
you to know you can be saved.
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"For the Son of Man has
come to seek and to save
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that which is lost."
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Jesus comes to save the lost.
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John 3:17, "God did not send His
Son into the world to condemn
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the world, but through
Him the world might be saved."
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1 Timothy 1:15, "This is a
faithful saying and worthy of
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all acceptance that Jesus
Christ came into the world,"
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for what reason?
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"To save sinners."
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Jesus comes to save the lost.
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But our message isn't today
that Jesus can save the lost.
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That's part of the message.
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The question we
want to address today is,
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Can saved be lost?
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That's a very important question
because whether you know it
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or not, there are a lot of
dangerous doctrines that are out
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in the world.
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Among Protestants, about
30% of Protestants believe
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in predestination.
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They actually believe
in the-- it's, you know,
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Calvinist or Reformed theology.
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You've heard the expression,
"Once saved, always saved."
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Now, that's really a
package of different beliefs.
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And don't misunderstand,
Calvin was a great reformer.
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He was a tremendous theologian.
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He wrote the book "Institutes
of the Christian Religion"
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when he was in his 20's.
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He had an incredible mind,
and he contributed a great deal.
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But some things, they were
coming out of such darkness
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I believe that he misunderstood,
that can be dangerous.
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The idea that once you're
saved, you can't be lost is,
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I think, a dangerous belief.
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Another part of that is the idea
that Jesus's death on the cross
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wasn't to save everybody,
but he only shed enough blood
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and only suffered enough for
those he knew would be saved,
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better known as the elect.
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And then, the third, which I
find the most egregious of all,
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is the idea that God has
predetermined who he's gonna
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save and there are others
that he has deemed he created
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to be lost, and
nobody really has any choice.
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It's all only
based on God's choice.
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So, this fatalistic
idea, it's almost like Hinduism
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that's just, you
know, "you are what you are,
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you can't change
your circumstances,
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or you don't have a choice,"
I believe flies in the face
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of what the Bible
says when Joshua said,
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'Choose ye this day
who you will serve."
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We very much do have a
choice and we very much
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do have responsibility.
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And the choices we make
every day do lend themselves
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towards our ultimate destiny.
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So, for any who might
be fuzzy on the subject,
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let's just make it
clear what the Bible teaches.
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And so, I've just got to
the heart of the question,
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can the saved be lost?
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And there's other things we're
gonna talk about in the process.
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Now, you might think,
well, as long as you're sincere,
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it doesn't
matter what you believe.
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Wrong.
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The Bible tells us Matthew 7:21,
"Not everyone that says to me,
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'Lord, Lord,' will
enter the kingdom of heaven,
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but he that does the
will of my Father in heaven."
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Now, my friends
that believe once saved,
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always saved, they sort of
believe that once you're saved,
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you get a new heart.
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You're born again.
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God said, "You know, I will
never lose any that come to me."
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And there's some
key verses they have,
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I don't want to undermine
there are some verses that not
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rightly placed or in the wrong
context, it can confuse you.
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They say, "So once I am saved,
it doesn't matter what I do.
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I could, you know, turn from the
Lord and go back to the world
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and the sin like the devil,
but God's promised I am saved
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and I'm gonna be there."
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And Pastor Ross and I hear
it all the time when people call
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in with Bible questions.
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They say, "Well, I was saved
back when I was nine years old.
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I gave my heart to the Lord."
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They say, "I haven't
been walking with the Lord
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for 20 years now, and
I've got this drinking problem.
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And I'm having an
affair, and I want to know--"
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And we're going,
"Brother, you are not saved."
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"Oh, I was saved. I was saved."
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We're going, "No, you're not.
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'Cause Jesus said,
you'll know them by their fruit.
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So, there's millions of
people out there that have this
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false security that is deadly.
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That's as bad as
having a defibrillator
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with a dead battery.
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You know what I mean?
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Clear.
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Wait, nothing's happening.
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Wouldn't that be a bad time
to find out there's no power?
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And so, this is
what's gonna happen.
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"Many will say
to me in that day,"
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what day's he talking about?"
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The day of the Lord,
the great judgment day.
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'Lord, Lord, have we
not prophesied in your name,
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and cast out
devils in your name,
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and done many
wonderful works in your name?'
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And I'll declare to
them, 'I never knew you
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depart from me, you
who practice lawlessness.'"
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So, it doesn't matter what
a profession is if a person's
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practicing lawlessness,
then are they really converted?
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Is the question.
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Well, I want to
first do this in sequence.
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Let's address the big question
that I started with, did Jesus,
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in his sacrifice,
only die for the elect,
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a certain group, or
did he die for everybody?
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2 Corinthians 5:15,
"And he died for all,
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that those who live should
no longer live for themselves,
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but for him who died for them."
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John 1:29, "The next day John
the Baptist saw Jesus coming
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and he said,
"Behold, the Lamb of God
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that takes away
the sin of the elect."
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Is that what he said?
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The sin of who? The whole world.
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First John 2:2, "And he
himself is the appropriation
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for our sins, and not ours
only but for the whole world."
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I mean, if God wants
to say the whole world,
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if that was inadequate,
what other words would he use?
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The whole, whole world.
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What else could he say?
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He's trying to make
it clear for everybody.
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He's not talking about
this planet and the dirt.
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He's talking about the people.
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So now, is salvation
available to everybody?
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That's the other question.
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They say, "No, he
didn't die for all.
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It's just
available for the elect."
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Romans 5:18, "Therefore,
as through one man's offense,
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judgment came to all men,
resulting in condemnation,
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even so through one
man's righteousness,
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at one man's righteous act,
Jesus's sacrifice, the free gift
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came to all men, resulting
in justification of life."
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Romans 10:12, "For there
is no distinction between Jew
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and Greek, for the same
Lord is over all is rich
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to all who call upon Him.
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For whoever calls on the
name of the Lord will be saved."
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Is that clear?
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Anybody who calls on
the name of the Lord.
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Now, some Calvinists
will take that verse,
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all you gotta do is
call on the name of the Lord
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and you're saved.
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So, you pray,
you call on the Lord,
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you're saved and then go
on and live the way you want.
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That's not what
that verse is saying.
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Calling on the Lord
means those who have a life
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of calling upon God.
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And so, it's an
ongoing behavior.
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1 Timothy 2, verse 3 and 4, "For
this is good and acceptable in
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the sight of God our Savior, who
desires all men to be saved."
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It's not just a few
elect that are gonna be saved.
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He doesn't want
anyone to be lost.
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So, this idea that God said,
"Well, you know, I've gotta--
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I've gotta make
some sinners out there."
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Or I've heard people say,
"Well, you know, Jesus said,
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I'm saving the the
apostles, except for Judas,
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'cause somebody
had to be the fall guy,
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that the prophecies
might be fulfilled."
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So, Judas had no choice.
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No, Jesus-- God
knew he would do it,
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but he did it
because of his choice.
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Or you read the
verse where it says,
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"And God
hardened Pharaoh's heart."
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So, God is looking
down from heaven he's going,
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"Let me see, who will I save?
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Eeny, meeny, miny,
moe, you can be the Pharaoh,
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I'm gonna harden your heart.
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No matter what happens,
you are not gonna repent
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because I'm not giving
you the capacity to repent.
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You're just gonna be lost
because it makes for good story
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so Pharaoh, you're lost,
so I'm hardening your heart."
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Keep reading, you gotta compare
Scripture with Scripture.
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You'll find it
says many more times,
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"Pharaoh hardened his heart."
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See, it's the way that
God hardened Pharaoh's heart
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it's simply saying that the
circumstances that God sent,
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because Pharaoh was
proud, it hardened him.
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It's like someone said one
time, "The sun can shine on wax,
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and it will melt it.
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The sun can shine on
clay and it will harden it."
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It's the same sun, it's
shining on different substance.
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So, if a person
has a proud heart,
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the circumstances that might
humble one king like David or
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Manasseh, they humbled themself,
when the circumstances came,
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will harden
somebody like the pharaoh.
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And so, it really is,
what is the substance?
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Does that make sense?
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John 3:16, Who knows that on?
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"That whosoever believes
in Him might not perish,
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but have everlasting life."
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Go to 2 Peter 3:9, "The
Lord is not slack concerning
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His promise, as some
men count slackness."
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Talking about, why is it taking
them so long to come back?
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So, he hasn't
forgotten his promise.
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"But he's
longsuffering toward us,
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not willing that
any should perish."
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And so, yeah, there's a
battle between good and evil.
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It is not God's will
that innocent people suffer.
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It's not God's will
that the devil rebelled.
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None of the evil is God's will.
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If you want to know God's
will, you look in Genesis,
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chapter 1 and 2, and
you see a perfect paradise
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with creatures made in
his image, completely happy.
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They're living in
bliss, everything is good,
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good, very good.
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That's God's will.
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When the devil came in
and he brought the sin,
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that's not his will.
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He doesn't want you to perish,
which is why he sent Jesus
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so you have an option.
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But he can't force love
and he can't change your heart.
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That's something we must do.
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That leads us to
the big question,
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once saved, always saved?
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Once a person is
saved, can they then be lost?
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Now, I'll tell you why
this doctrine developed,
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and there are two extremes.
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Who wants an experience where
you come to Jesus to be saved,
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but you just never
feel you're good enough.
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And every time you
think a bad thought,
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or do a wrong thing,
you say, "Now I'm lost.
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I'm sorry, Lord.
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Now, I'm saved.
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Oh, but what if I do
something wrong, now I'm lost.
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Now I'm saved,
now--" Repent, confess,
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repent, confess, sin,
repent, committed sin,
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and you're going back
and forth and it's like,
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you can go crazy like that.
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You have no assurance.
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So, theologians who said, "Does
God want us to always be living,
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and wondering, and
hoping, that we might be saved
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and always in doubt."
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You're miserable 'cause
you're just always wondering,
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"Did I do something wrong?"
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And there's no
peace, there's no assurance.
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And they said that that can't
be the answer so it must be
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that once you are
saved, you can't be lost.
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That's the only way you
would have that assurance
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and that security.
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They call it eternal
security, is one of the names
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for once saved, always saved.
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Well, that's the
extreme solution.
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That's also the
other problem, the idea,
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"Okay, I'm saved now, I
can do whatever I want."
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Doug: Don't go anywhere,
friends, in just a moment,
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we're going to return for the
rest of today's presentation.
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You know, the power of choice
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but when a person is
saved, do they choose God
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or does he choose them?
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And once a person is saved,
do they still have the freedom
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to reverse that decision?
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today's presentation and learn
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some more amazing
facts from the Word of God.
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Doug: "No matter what I
do, I have peace, I'm saved,
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but don't you
dare tell me otherwise
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'cause you're gonna shake me.
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You're gonna take away
my peace and my security."
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And so, that's
the other extreme.
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Now, you know, I have a
lot of Baptist friends believe
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in eternal security, and
they're very godly people.
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They don't try to exploit
it, but I've also preached
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in some Baptist
churches where people said,
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"You better not go
along with a sermon 'cause
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the football game starts at 12."
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And so, you know, you and
I saw them gathering outside
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and smoking right after
church, and then go home
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and drink beer
and watch football.
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And they say, "Yeah, I
was saved at 12 years old,
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I gave my heart to the Lord."
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But they're not living for God.
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And so, you've got
these two extremes of people
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that are constantly in fear.
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They're always
looking at their works.
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And you got the other
group that they're they say,
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"Once I was saved
and I'm saved by faith,
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it doesn't matter what I do."
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Now, I want to make it
clear, we are saved entirely
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by grace through faith.
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We are not saved by
works, but that is not a license
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to live a life of sin.
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So, I'm just gonna
tell you straight up, yes,
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if you are not continuing
to daily walk in the Lord,
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you can lose that assurance
and you can lose eternal life.
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Let me give you some verses.
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Galatians 5, verse 4, "You have
become estranged from Christ,
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you who attempt to
be justified by the law;
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you have fallen from grace."
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Now, no matter what you think
about grace and the law there,
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Paul says
grace-- these are people,
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he's writing to the
church in Galatians.
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You can fall from it.
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Now if you've fallen
from grace, are you saved?
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If you're only saved by grace
and you've fallen from grace,
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are you still saved?
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No.
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So, Paul said it.
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Mark 13:13 Jesus
said, "He that endures
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to the end will be saved."
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So, when do you finally know?
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At the end.
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You've got to continue enduring.
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Now, that doesn't mean you can't
have peace that you're saved.
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And I'll explain that
because the word "saved"
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is used different ways.
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Paul said, 1 Corinthians
9:27, "But I keep my body under
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and I bring it into subjection,
lest, that by any means
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when I preach to others, I
myself should be a castaway."
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Paul was saying, "I
need to continually bring
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my body into subjection."
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Paul said, "I die daily."
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Now if once you're
saved, you're always saved,
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why would you need to die daily?
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But Paul said,
"Daily I must deny myself."
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Jesus said,
"Whoever takes up his cross
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daily denies
himself and follows me."
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Those are the terms of Jesus,
"Daily take up your cross,
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deny yourself, follow me."
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And if you should cease to daily
have that ongoing relationship,
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you're--it's dangerous.
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Hebrews 10:26,
"If we sin willfully,"
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and that there means if we
continue to live a life of sin,
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doesn't mean if you once sin.
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"But if we sin willfully after
we've received the knowledge of
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the truth," all right, so he's
talking right now to somebody.
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"They received the
knowledge of the truth."
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But they turn from it
for willful, ongoing sin.
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"There no longer
remains a sacrifice for sins,
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but a certain fearful
expectation of judgment
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and fiery indignation that
will devour the adversaries."
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Go--same chapter, Hebrews 10:35,
"Therefore do not cast away
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your confidence,
which has a great reward.
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For you need endurance."
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He that endures will be saved.
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"So that after
you've done the will of God,
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you may receive the promise."
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"So, what in the world is
going on here, Pastor Doug,
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can we have any peace?"
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The secret to the Christian life
is you've got to keep moving.
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A lot of Christians
think you come to the Lord,
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you say a prayer,
that is done with now.
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You come to the Lord and you
are saved from your past sins,
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you are justified, that is true.
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You are saved by grace
and justified when you come
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to the Lord.
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When you get off your
knees after you've asked them
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to forgive your sins, you have
salvation, of justification.
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But you have not been
saved yet from the power of sin
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in the world.
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The devil is gonna
be there tempting you.
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And so, you
continually day by day,
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you've got the
freedom to choose.
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And we are encouraged
all through the Scriptures
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to continue choosing God.
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But can we have peace?
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Where does the word
"confidence"come from?
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When you say con means with,
fidelity or fidence means faith,
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with faith.
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He who believes and is
baptized will be saved.
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Can you have security?
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If you believe.
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John 3:36, "He who believes
in Son has everlasting life."
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Now, isn't that a good promise?
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What does it mean to believe?
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That's a big question.
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Some people think that means
just believe that he exists
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or believe that he
died, believe that he lived,
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believe that he rose.
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All those things
I just mentioned,
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does the devil
believe all of those?
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Does the devil
believe that God lives?
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He knows it better than you,
used to see him in his glory.
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Does the devil know
that Jesus came to earth?
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Does he know that
he died for our sins?
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Does he know that he rose again?
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He does. He knows all that.
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He even knows he loves you.
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It's not gonna save him.
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It's a kind of belief where it
means the word "believe" means
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to be live.
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The word believe
means to be live.
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It means to live in something.
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It's not just the
mental assent 'cause James said
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the devils believe like that.
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It means saying, "I'm
willing to do your will, Lord."
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You know, the reason that
it's important to understand
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that God can give us
power not only to justify us,
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but he can give us power to save
us from the power of temptation
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and sin, is when you know
that God will do his part,
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you have more security.
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What is righteousness by faith?
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When you believe that God hears
your prayer for forgiveness,
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and you are justified, and
you believe that the moment
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you prayed, that he
forgives all your past sins,
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and he gives you power,
and he is gonna begin creating
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a new heart in you, that
gives you confidence that,
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"Hey, I've got eternal life."
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If you have eternal life,
how will that motivate you
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to be different?
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If you know that God says, "I am
the author and the finisher of
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your faith, I will stay with you
if you continue to turn to me.
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You may fall, but
turn right back to me,"
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and see if he doesn't grow you.
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That should give you confidence.
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I remember reading
when they were building the
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Golden Gate Bridge, at first
they had no safety precautions,
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and 23 men slipped and fell to
their deaths in the water below.
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Finally, they thought, "You
know, we need to do something,"
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'cause it was in
the early stages.
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They'd already lost 23 men,
and a guy named Strauss helped
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develop, he was an
engineer, a net that was spread
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all the way across.
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They'd never had a safety device
like this on a big project.
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They built a net at $100,000.
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And for us, it would
be like $10 million today,
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that went
across the entire span.
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You know what they
discovered after they put
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the net under there?
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First of all, the
net saved like 19 men.
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But the other thing they noticed
was once the net showed up,
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the men, because
of their confidence,
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were a lot braver and
the work went a lot faster,
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and it was a lot more successful
because the men had security.
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Now, do you
hear what I'm saying?
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Because you cannot say,
"Once saved, always saved,"
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doesn't mean you cannot have
security in your relationship
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with the Lord.
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You've just gotta be
careful about being presumption.
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I've used this
illustration before.
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Karen and I got married.
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We've actually got
witnesses to the wedding today.
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You make very restrictive vows.
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You promise to keep yourself
only unto that other person,
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and we love each other.
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We made those promises.
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Now, if I want to, I could
break that promise tomorrow.
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I could break it today.
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I am free.
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I never have, God
willing I never will.
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I don't worry about it.
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I don't worry about her because
when you've got love and faith,
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you can have confidence.
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But that doesn't mean
we don't have the freedom.
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See what I'm saying?
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And so, this is how it is in
our relationship with the Lord.
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He loves you. He accepts you.
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He adopts you, and
he'll never let go of you.
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But you can let go of him.
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His love for years non-failing.
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Life and death cannot
separate you from his love.
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My Calvinist friends say,
"That means you can't be lost."
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No, it means he
will not stop loving you,
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but you are still free
'cause you can't force love.
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The idea once God saves someone
he takes away their freedom,
00:22:16.00\00:22:18.57
what does that
mean, you're a robot now?
00:22:18.60\00:22:21.44
That's not loving anymore.
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"Therefore let him who thinks he
stands take heed lest you fall."
00:22:24.01\00:22:28.28
So, you want to have
confidence, but you don't want
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to have arrogance.
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You need to have
faith, but be careful.
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Again, Hebrews 4:1, "Therefore
since a promise remains
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of entering his rest,
let us fear lest any of us
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seem to come short of it."
00:22:41.39\00:22:43.06
We need to be
God-fearing and yet have peace.
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See, there's a balance
here in the Christian life.
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Romans 10:13,
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"Whoever calls on the name
of the Lord shall be saved."
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And if we are calling on
God, he promises to save us,
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but we need to press on.
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Revelation 3:5, "He who
overcomes will be clothed
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in white raiment," again,
he's speaking to the church,
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"and I will not blot his
name from the Book of Life."
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Now, why would Jesus even
say that unless it was possible
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for a name to be
taken from the Book of Life?
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If your name, once
put in the Book of Life,
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could never be taken
out, why would he say that?
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Matter of fact,
Exodus 33, didn't expect me
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to go to the Old Testament.
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Exodus 32, verse 33,
"And the Lord said to Moses,
00:23:25.30\00:23:29.54
'Whoever has sinned
against me, I will blot him out
00:23:29.57\00:23:32.57
of my book.'"
00:23:32.61\00:23:34.21
So, even in the Old Testament,
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this is what Jesus is referring
to here in Revelation 3,
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God's enters a
person in his book,
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when you come to
Christ and you're justified,
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you're saved, your name is
entered in the Book of Life,
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but then you must press
on through sanctification
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and faith, and you
have the victory, amen?
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So, he doesn't
want us to live in fear.
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1 John 3:18,
"There is no fear in love.
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The perfect
love casts out fear."
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God has promised in
Hebrews 13, verse 5,
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"I will never leave
you or forsake you."
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"Being
confident," Philippians 1:6,
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"Of this very thing, he
that has begun a good work
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and you will complete it."
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God gives you so many
promises not to be discouraged,
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not to think he
doesn't want to save you.
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He's desperate to
save every one of us,
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but you need to cooperate.
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Don't--there's two
ditches you can fall in,
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one is get discouraged and
say, "I'm never gonna make it,"
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the others say, "Once
I'm saved, I can't be lost."
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You need to be
mature and biblical
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about what it means to be saved.
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So, God wants us to have
some assurance, doesn't he?
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He doesn't want
us to live in fear.
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Ezekiel chapter 33.
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He says in verse 12,
"Therefore, O son of man,
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say to the
children of your people,
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'The righteousness of the
righteous will not deliver him
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in the day of his transgression;
as for the wickedness
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of the wicked, it will not--
he will not fall because of it
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in the day of his--he
turns from his wickedness;
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nor shall the right
just be able to live because
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of his righteousness
and the day that he sins."
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That's pretty clear.
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"When I say to the righteous
that he will surely live,
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but he trusts in
his own righteousness
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and he commits iniquity,"
this is describing the
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"Once saved,
always saved" people.
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He says to the righteous,
"You'll live, I've saved you.
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You're forgiven."
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"But he trusts in his
own righteousness and commits
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iniquity, none of his righteous
works shall be remembered;
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but because of the
iniquity that he has committed,
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he shall die.
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Again, when I say to the
wicked, 'You shall surely die,'
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if he turns from his sin and
does what is lawful and right,
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if the wicked
restores the pledge,
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gives back what he has stolen,
and walks in the statutes
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of life without
committing iniquity,
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he shall surely
live; he will not die.
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None of his sins that he
has committed will be remembered
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against him; he
shall surely live."
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God is telling us he'
covering the two extremes,
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right, and that
wonder is he's saying,
00:25:51.75\00:25:53.45
"Look, if you
follow me, you can live."
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Now, we're saved by his
grace because if we're gonna get
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what we deserve,
we're all doomed, right?
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Penalty for sin is
death, none of us has hope.
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So, if anyone makes it,
it's grace for everyone.
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But when you are saved by
grace and you accept that,
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embrace that by faith,
the Bible says we should walk
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in a newness of life, amen?
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