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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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Doug Batchelor: Welcome
once again, friends, to "Bible
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Answers Live," and if you are
tuning in for the first time,
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this is a live
international Bible study.
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And we're going to share
with you an amazing fact.
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Shortly after the first European
settlers arrived in North
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America, they were stunned by
the immense flocks of a unique
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type of pigeon found
only in the New World.
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They were called
passenger pigeons.
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And at one time, they were
certainly the most abundant bird
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in North America and possibly
the most numerous birds in
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the world.
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They flourished across most
of North America east of the
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Rocky Mountains.
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A very fast flyer, the passenger
pigeon could reach speeds
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of 62 miles an hour.
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As they traveled in great
flocks, they darkened the skies
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for hours.
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Estimates placed them
numbering up to 5 billion.
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But when they descended to
perch in a tree, so many of them
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landed, it was common
for branches to break from
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their weight.
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The birds fed mainly on fruits
and seeds and insects, and they
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could live up to 30 years.
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Yet, incredibly, these colossal
flocks of birds disappeared in
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150 years, and passenger
pigeons were soon extinct.
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The main reason for their
extinction of the species was
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the massive scale of
unrestrained hunting.
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Businessmen saw them as a
tremendous food source, so they
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killed them by the thousands
and shipped them to the cities.
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Also, the rapid loss of habitat
as forests were cut for farming
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and timber
contributed to their demise.
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By the time word got out
that the passenger pigeons were
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facing
extermination, it was too late.
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The last known passenger pigeon,
Martha, died on September 1,
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1914 at the Cincinnati Zoo.
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Can you imagine that?
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Going from billions, in a little
more than a century, to none.
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And it's just people thought,
"Oh, well we can just wait, you
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know, we'll do something later.
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They'll recover."
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Jëan Ross: We mentioned another
animal in North America that was
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very prevalent and
almost went extinct.
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Of course, that's the American
buffalo, and they were able to
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catch it in time.
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But just like the buffalo that
would take, you know, almost a
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whole day to cross over the path
in front of you, these pigeons
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would darken the sky
for hours as they came over.
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Doug: Yeah, Audubon, the famous
naturalist, he said that he saw
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one flock that was a mile wide
that it took several days to
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pass over.
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In other words, you'd wake
up and they'd continue just
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migrating and it
was dark in the skies.
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But, yeah.
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They--farmers didn't like
them very much 'cause they ate
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seeds, but they flew so low,
a farmer with a long stick could
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kill, you know, dozens of
them just by swinging a stick.
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And then, of course, they used
nets and they use guns, and they
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use sulfur gas, and they said
they tasted like chickens, so
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they just killed them all off
until pretty soon there were a
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few in the zoos, and they,
you know, they were not used
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to captivity.
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They died in captivity, and
except Martha was the last one.
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And they got several stuffed in
the museums, but that's the only
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place you can see one because
they waited too long to do
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something about it.
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And, you know, it makes me think
that there's a lot of people
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that they know they can't
keep living a life of sin and be
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saved, and they think,
"Well, one of these days
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I'm going to repent.
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But they wait
until it's too late.
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And that's the most dangerous
thing you can do, friend, is to
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play Russian
roulette with eternity.
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If you know what God's will is
for you, then the best time to
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listen to his voice is
when you're hearing God's voice.
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What is it that Paul says in
Hebrews, "Today, if you hear his
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voice, don't harden your heart."
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Make a decision to follow
the Lord and then stick to it.
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We got a free
offer talks about that.
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Jëan: We do, we have
one of our Amazing Facts
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study guides, and it's
talking about the subject.
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It's called "No Turning Back."
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It's making that firm
commitment, and that is so
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important for the Christian.
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We'll be happy to
send you one of our--
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we'll send you the study guide.
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All you need to
do is call and ask.
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The number is 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the
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It's called "No Turning Back."
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You can also dial #250 on
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Doug: You know, there's a
scripture that comes to mind
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when we're talking about how
important it is for people to
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make a decision.
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It tells us there in Hebrews
10, verse 26, and it's also in
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verse 27, "For if we sin
willfully after we've received
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the knowledge of the truth,
there remains no sacrifice for
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sins, but a certain fearful
expectation of judgment, and
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fiery indignation which
will devour the adversaries."
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And that doesn't mean that if
you make a mistake after you've
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learned the truth, it means if
you continue to live a life of
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sin after you know what God's
will is, then, you know, what
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else can God do?
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So it's just very dangerous, you
know, sometimes we're talking to
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people out there that have never
made a decision, but now we're
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talking to people that
have known the truth, that are
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postponing the decision.
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And we're pleading
with you. Don't do that.
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Now, if you have any questions
about that or other Bible
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subjects, we're going to have
prayer, then give us a call.
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We'll do our best to
answer your questions.
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Jëan: Before we go to the phone
lines, let's start with the word
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of prayer.
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Dear Father, we thank you that
you are a God of mercy and a God
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of forgiveness, and thank
you, Lord, that we have this
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opportunity to study Your Word,
and we do pray that you would
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guide, be with those who
are listening, wherever they
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might be.
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And lead us to a clear
understanding of the Bible, for
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we ask this in
Jesus's name, amen.
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Doug: Amen.
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Jëan: And if you have a Bible
question, our phone line here to
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the studio is 800-463-7297.
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Again, that's 800-463-7297.
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And we have Wynelle
listening from Georgia.
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Wynelle, welcome to the program.
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Wynelle: Hi.
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Thank you, Pastor Doug and
Pastor Ross, for taking my call.
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I appreciate it very much.
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Doug: Thanks for calling.
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Wynelle: My question is how
would a person know if the Holy
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Spirit has left them?
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Doug: All right.
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Well, first of all, most people
that worry that the Holy Spirit
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has left them, it's because
they're not feeling any, maybe
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peace or they're not feeling any
promptings of the Spirit, and
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they're thinking
things have gone quiet.
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Does that mean
that God has left me?
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Well, if you've made a decision
to be a Christian, you're not
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going to always hear the
Lord speaking to you directly.
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You may also--the voice can go
quiet because God has given you
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some responsibility or
some command, and you're
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ignoring that.
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And so, the volume can go down
in your communications with God.
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And in a case like that, I
think, first of all, anyone
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asking this question, the Holy
Spirit's prompting them to think
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about it, so that's a good sign.
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But I'd say that if you're
having doubts, and if it seems
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like you're wondering if you're
separating from the Lord, then
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just humble yourself and
say--claim the promise, say,
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"Lord, you've promised
if I confess my sins you'll
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forgive me.
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If I draw near to you like the
prodigal son, when he started
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coming home, the father, as
soon as he saw him, he ran to
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meet him."
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The Lord will draw near to
you if you draw near to Him.
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So, draw near to God through
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prayer, through
reading His Word.
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Say, "Lord, speak to me,"
and if there's any unconfessed
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sin, then
present that to the Lord.
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He promises to forgive.
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He wants to save
you. I believe He will.
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Jëan: You know,
Pastor Doug, we have a book.
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We don't always
offer it, but it's a great
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study, and it
deals with the subject.
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It's called, "Is it Easy
To Be Saved or To Be Lost?"
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Sometimes people wonder, you
know, "What do I have to do to
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be saved?"
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And, "Am I heading
down the right path?"
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So, call and ask for that.
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The number is 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the book.
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It's called, "Is It Easier
To Be Saved or To Be Lost?"
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And you will enjoy reading that.
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A lot of good scripture there.
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Thank you, next caller that
we have is Chris in Minnesota.
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Chris, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Chris: How are you doing?
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Doug: Doing well,
thanks for calling, Chris.
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Chris: Yeah, thank you.
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Quick question here.
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Is there any significance to
President Trump bringing up 1798
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on a somewhat regular basis
here lately, including up to his
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election time?
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Doug: Well, you know, I would
have to confess that I had not
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heard it.
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I haven't heard
him bring up 1798.
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Have you heard that?
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Jëan: No, I haven't,
but I haven't caught all of
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his speeches.
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Doug: So, probably
we are not experts.
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We can't give you
an answer to that.
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I'd have to say, well, let
me hear it and hear what the
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context is, and then I might
find out if there's some Bible
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prophetic relevance to that.
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Of course, that is a--the date
1798, for our friends that are
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listening, is a prophetically
relevant date in that it marks
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the end of this people
persecution that lasted
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1260 years.
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Started in 538 and
it went 1260 years.
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And when Napoleon arrested--
through his general Berthier--
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when Napoleon arrested the Pope,
the Catholic church sort of lost
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its uninterrupted power
over Europe that it had for
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1260 years.
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And so, that's a
significant date.
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I had not heard anyone mention
that in a campaign, so I'll have
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to plead ignorance to that one.
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Jëan: You know, we do have
a study guide that talks about
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these different time prophecies
that you read about in the book
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Revelation and in Daniel.
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It's called "Right On Time," and
I think it refers to that 1260
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year time period.
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We'll be able to send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
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The number is 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for
that study guide.
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It's called "Right On Time."
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And you'll enjoy reading that.
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Nadia is in Georgia.
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Nadia, welcome to the program.
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Nadia: Hi, good evening.
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Doug: Good evening.
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Nadia: I was reading a text
and I had a couple questions.
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I'll just read part of it.
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"Between the portico
and the altar, were about
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twenty-five men.
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With their backs to the temple
of the Lord and their faces
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toward the east, they
were bowing down to the sun in
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the east."
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I was wondering, could this
text refer to Sunday keepers as
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idolaters worshiping the sun?
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And my second question is,
do you think that worshiping on
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Sunday is a form of
sun worship in God's eyes?
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Doug: All right, well
you're quoting from a prophecy
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in Ezekiel.
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Now, Ezekiel is, I don't think
he's looking ahead to the time
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beyond Christ.
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I think he's looking at
what was happening in Israel.
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One reason the judgment that
Ezekiel wrote from Babylon in
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the Persian area.
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And he was living, he's
a contemporary of Daniel.
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The Israelites had been
carried off captive because of
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their infidelity.
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And while they were going
through the outward forms of the
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sanctuary, Ezekiel said that
they're still involved in sun
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worship, which was common
among the Baal worshipers.
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So, he's referring to something
that had happened and that was
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happening where they
were engaging in, like,
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duplicitous worship.
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We're saying we worship the
Lord but also secretly praying
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towards the sun,
which is sun worship.
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Now, you're asking is that--are
people who go to church on
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Sunday, are they
involved in sun worship?
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Well, it is true the name Sunday
is derived from sun worship, and
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a lot of ancient civilizations
worshiped the sun, even in the
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Americas, the
Egyptians, the Babylonians.
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The sun, I think even
among the Romans, was it Apollo?
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Was he the chief sun god?
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And so, that's not unusual.
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When the average person goes
to church on Sunday, I wouldn't
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call them sun worshipers.
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I think that, you know, they
believe that they're worshiping
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on the Sabbath day, they've just
got the days wrong according to
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the Bible.
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They think that--most of them
think, well because Jesus rose
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the first day, that the
commandment was changed from the
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seventh day to the first day.
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And of course, there is no
command in the Bible to worship
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on the first day as a holy day.
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We're supposed to worship God
seven days a week, but there's
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no command to rest the first day
and keep it as a new Sabbath.
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That's where I think they err,
but I don't think any of them
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are praying to the sunrise.
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Jëan: You know, part of the
interesting passage there in
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Ezekiel, the prophecy,
God told--when the children of
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Israel were to build the temple,
the temple was to be laid out a
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certain way and it was from the
plans of the one that was built
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in the wilderness.
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The door to the temple, when you
came to the door to the temple,
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the east was to be to your back.
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In other words,
you were facing west.
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The reason for that is much of
the sacrifice was done early in
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the morning and the tendency
amongst the pagans as the sun
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was rising, they would bow
towards the east and worship
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the sun.
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God didn't want that
temptation for His people.
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He said, "The sun
needs to be behind you."
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But here are people inside the
temple in the courtyard area,
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and their backs are turned.
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Are rather towards the most holy
place of the sanctuary, and they
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are facing towards the
east and they are worshiping the
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rising sun.
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And that was what was being
condemned at that point in time.
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Doug: Yeah, they
basically--they're turning their
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back on the worship of
God towards pagan worship.
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Good question,
Nadia. Thank you so much.
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Jëan: We've got
Lee listening in Texas.
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Lee, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Lee: Yes, thank you
for taking my call tonight.
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My question is, does the mark
of the beast come out before or
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during church and state union?
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Doug: All right, great.
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The Bible tells us in the last
days in Revelation 13 that the
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beast power is there--there's
two beasts in Revelation 13.
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The first beast is the
papacy based in Europe with the
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Orthodox, the Catholic church,
and the other Orthodox churches.
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They're going to unite with
Protestants and Evangelicals in
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the Americas, North
America principally.
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That they're going to form
a confederacy with church and
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state that is
going to compel worship.
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Now, this is not saying
there's going to be a one world
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government, because
Daniel says there never will be.
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They're not going
to cleave together.
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They'll never be a one world
government, but there'll be a
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confederacy of church and state
around the world where this
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religion is going to be
compelled, and it probably is
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going to happen gradually, where
first they're going to say, you
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know, "The world's going to
Hades in a handbasket," and it's
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because we're not, you know,
worshiping God, and not taking
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care of the
environment might be included.
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And we need to, you know, start
mandating laws that everybody's
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got to get back to church.
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And there's going to be laws
that are going to go against the
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law of God.
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So, I think it's
going to sort of happen.
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First, you're going to see the
union and the union is going to
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then forge around worshiping the
beast in his image and a mark of
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the beast.
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Jëan: We do have a study guide.
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It's called the
"Mark Of The Beast."
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And of course, Revelation
chapter 14, you have three
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angels's messages, and the third
angel warns about the beast and
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about his image and worshiping
the image and having the mark of
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the beast, so a
very important study.
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We'll be happy to send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:15:43.91\00:15:45.84
The number is 800-835-6747.
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We got Anthony in New York.
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Anthony, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Anthony: Yes,
good evening, pastors.
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Doug: Evening.
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Anthony: So, as I was waiting,
I actually think the Holy Spirit
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told me to look up this--the
question I had, and I saw it on
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your website, Amazing Facts,
that my question was actually
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about the book of Jasher in
Joshua chapter 10, verse 13, but
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I saw that it says on your
website that no one really knows
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about this
book, so I don't know.
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I don't know if there's anything
else you want to say about the
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question, but I did
already get my answer.
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Doug: Well, no.
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It's a good question, and,
you know, sometimes we give an
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answer, we give an abbreviated
answer because of the time.
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I'll say a
little more about that.
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There are references in the Old
Testament, and I think one or
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two in the New, to books
that are not books of the Bible.
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You not only have the book of
Jasher--by the way, the book of
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Jasher is mentioned in the
book of Joshua, and the book of
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Jasher is mentioned in 2
Samuel in chapter 1, verse 18.
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It says, "He told them to teach
the children of Judah the song
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of the bow; Indeed it is
written in the book of Jasher."
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And so, Jasher may have been a
prophet and he had written some
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inspired things, but for
whatever reason, God did not see
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that it needed to be
preserved for posterity.
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And so, it's not there.
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I think it talks about the
book of Gad, the seer also.
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There's one
other I can't remember.
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But one place is
the book of Nathan.
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Now they may be referring to
2 Samuel, which is written after
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Samuel dies, so he didn't write.
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It may have been Nathan the
prophet that helped write that.
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So, of course, he was--he
may have been dead then too.
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So, well, I don't know.
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Anyway, those three books in the
Old Testament are referred to.
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Not every prophet wrote a book.
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John the Baptist was the
greatest prophet, and he didn't
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write a book.
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And not every prophetic
book was part of the holy canon.
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So, they had some books that
they believe were inspired, but
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not necessarily
part of the Bible.
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I think "Pilgrim's
Progress" is somewhat inspired.
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It's not part of
the Bible, though.
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Jëan: Yeah,
something else about the book.
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I'm just looking at it,
a little commentary on it.
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It's also referred to as
the Book of Praises or the Book
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of Hymns.
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So, it seemed as though it
was also a collection similar to
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what the Psalms are, collection
of sacred songs that was
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possibly used
in worship as well.
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Doug: Yeah, the two references
actually are poetic references.
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Jëan: Yeah,
something related to that.
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Good, great question.
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All right, next caller that we
have is Adriene from Tennessee.
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Is that right, Adriene?
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Adriene: That's correct.
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Jëan: Welcome.
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Adriene: Thank you, thank you,
Pastor Ross and Pastor Doug.
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I am calling because I'm stumped
on Deuteronomy chapter 12,
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verse 22.
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My husband and I are reading
from the beginning to the end of
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the Bible, and of course,
this is an area where God has
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made--He's made it very clear
what types of meats we are to
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eat and what
meats we shouldn't eat.
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And in this particular text, it
talks about in an instance where
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you can't get to a certain
facility in time for whatever
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reason, then you can
have unclean or clean meats.
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So, could you--I'm perplexed by
that, hoping you can answer it.
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Doug: Yeah, let me read this for
our friends that are listening.
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It's talking about these annual
feasts that the Jews would
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attend, and we're in
Deuteronomy chapter 12 here.
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And it's--let me just read it.
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It says in verse 20, I'll start
there, "When the Lord your God
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enlarges your border as he's
promised you, and you say, 'Let
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me eat meat,' because you long
to eat meat, that you may eat as
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much as your heart desires.
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If the place where the Lord
God chooses to put His name," it
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ends up being Jerusalem, "is too
far from you," where they would
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go and eat the
sacrificial meats, okay?
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"If the place is too far from
you, then you might slaughter
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from your herd and your flock
which the Lord has given you,
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just as I've commanded you."
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Now--so he's referring
them back to something he's
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commanded earlier.
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That would be the
clean and unclean animals.
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"Just as I've commanded you,
you may eat within your gates as
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much as your heart desires.
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Just as the gazelle and the deer
are eaten, so you may eat them;
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the clean and the
unclean alike may eat them."
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Now, what it's not saying is the
clean and the unclean meats you
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can eat.
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It's saying, people who are
ceremonially clean or unclean,
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they're all allowed to eat
of this annual feast sacrifice.
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So, some people, because of the,
you know, they had some issue
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or, you know, a woman during a
certain time of the month, or if
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you had, you know, any kind of a
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rash, or there's
a bunch of things.
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If you had touched a dead body
because you had a burial in the
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family, you were
spiritually unclean.
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Some people thought, "Well, if
you're unclean, then you can't
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participate in this
annual feast of food."
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And God is saying, yes, the
clean and the unclean people are
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free to eat of those sacrifices.
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It's not saying you can eat
of any animal during the feast
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because he made it really
clear that the other things were
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an abomination.
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Why would he turn that around?
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Jëan: We do have a study
guide that talks about that.
00:21:19.17\00:21:21.28
It's called "God's Free
Health Plan" and gives some good
00:21:21.31\00:21:23.51
biblical principles
for living a healthy life.
00:21:23.55\00:21:26.72
If you'd like to
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00:21:26.75\00:21:28.25
is 800-835-6747.
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That is our resource phone line.
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You can ask for that.
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00:21:42.80\00:21:44.13
We'll be able to send
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00:21:46.00\00:21:47.34
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It's a good time to call.
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We've got Ely in Kansas.
00:22:00.75\00:22:02.55
Ely, welcome to the program.
00:22:02.58\00:22:04.35
Doug: Ellie.
00:22:04.39\00:22:05.72
Jëan: Or is it Ellie?
00:22:05.75\00:22:07.06
Sorry, Ellie.
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Ely: Oh, it's Ely.
00:22:08.46\00:22:09.76
Doug: Ely.
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Jëan: We got the first, okay.
00:22:11.16\00:22:12.46
Ely: Yeah, yeah, it's Ely.
00:22:12.49\00:22:13.83
It's always Ely.
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Yeah, my question for tonight is
why do innocent people suffer?
00:22:15.16\00:22:18.70
Because, you know, I don't
understand why people are born
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and they are going to die,
and God knows that they're going
00:22:24.74\00:22:28.64
to die.
00:22:28.68\00:22:30.01
But why does that happen?
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Like, why do they suffer if they
don't have, like, a blame or
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something like that?
00:22:36.02\00:22:37.65
Doug: Yeah, no, there's a book
in the Bible called the book of
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Job, and the very beginning
of the book, it says, "Job is a
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perfect and an upright man,
he's a good man, honest man, he
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follows the
commandments of the Lord."
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And all of a sudden, he
gets attacked by the devil.
00:22:51.70\00:22:55.97
And first he gets attacked where
he loses his finances, then he
00:22:56.00\00:23:01.38
loses his family, then he
loses his physical health.
00:23:01.41\00:23:05.95
It's just one
thing after another.
00:23:05.98\00:23:08.55
And the Bible in this story, it
pulls back the veil, and we see
00:23:08.58\00:23:12.42
that the devil is the
one that's bringing this.
00:23:12.45\00:23:15.16
And you might be thinking,
"Well, isn't God more powerful
00:23:15.19\00:23:18.36
than the devil?
00:23:18.39\00:23:19.69
Why does God allow suffering?"
00:23:19.73\00:23:21.40
This is a question so many
people don't understand is that
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our planet has been hijacked
by a very powerful evil fiend--
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he was the most powerful of
God's created beings--called
00:23:31.41\00:23:36.38
Lucifer, turned to Satan and the
devil, and he has accused God of
00:23:36.41\00:23:41.65
all kinds of
malicious accusations.
00:23:41.68\00:23:44.42
God had to--God could have
destroyed Lucifer by the blink
00:23:44.45\00:23:47.79
of an eye because he's
the all powerful Creator.
00:23:47.82\00:23:51.73
But he had to let Lucifer
demonstrate what his--what were
00:23:51.76\00:23:57.33
the results of his government.
00:23:57.37\00:23:59.47
He had to give other creatures
the freedom to choose whether to
00:23:59.50\00:24:03.00
listen to the Word of
God or the word of the devil.
00:24:03.04\00:24:06.54
In the beginning, our first
parents chose to listen to the
00:24:06.57\00:24:09.41
word of the devil
instead of the Word of God.
00:24:09.44\00:24:12.18
God said, "Do not
eat the forbidden fruit.
00:24:12.21\00:24:14.85
If you eat the forbidden fruit
then, you know, the devil's
00:24:14.88\00:24:17.09
going to move into
this world, and you'll die."
00:24:17.12\00:24:21.42
And the devil
said, "Don't believe God.
00:24:21.46\00:24:23.46
If you eat this fruit, you'll
be like God, and God's afraid
00:24:23.49\00:24:25.83
you're going to be like Him."
00:24:25.86\00:24:27.40
See, the devil wanted to be God,
so he planted his own desires in
00:24:27.46\00:24:30.80
the hearts of Eve and Adam.
00:24:30.83\00:24:32.97
And when our first parents chose
to listen to the enemy, the
00:24:33.00\00:24:37.74
devil set up his headquarters in
this world, and all the misery
00:24:37.77\00:24:40.94
you see in the world, instead of
pointing to God and say, "Why is
00:24:40.98\00:24:44.41
God doing this?"
00:24:44.45\00:24:45.81
No, instead of saying,
"Why do bad things happen?"
00:24:45.85\00:24:47.75
We should say, "Why
are we still alive?"
00:24:47.78\00:24:50.49
The penalty for sin is death,
but we don't die right away
00:24:50.52\00:24:54.02
because Jesus said,
"I'll come to the world.
00:24:54.06\00:24:56.12
I'll become a human.
00:24:56.16\00:24:57.76
I'll live as an
example for them.
00:24:57.79\00:25:00.36
I'll show them what God is
really like, that He's love.
00:25:00.40\00:25:03.00
He's not what the devil
says, and then I'll die for
00:25:03.03\00:25:06.40
their sins."
00:25:06.43\00:25:07.74
He also died to buy
time for each person to make
00:25:07.77\00:25:10.91
that decision.
00:25:10.94\00:25:12.47
So, once people understand the
cosmic conflict that's going on
00:25:12.51\00:25:16.38
in the background, they can
understand that good and bad
00:25:16.41\00:25:20.08
happens to everybody.
00:25:20.12\00:25:21.42
Even Jesus said, "Rain and
sunshine falls on everybody in
00:25:21.45\00:25:24.79
this world because there's a
battle between good and evil."
00:25:24.82\00:25:27.72
And God is going
to win in the end.
00:25:27.76\00:25:29.69
We know that.
00:25:29.72\00:25:30.96
That's why we have prophecy, but
we need to try and reach as many
00:25:30.99\00:25:34.73
as we can to believe in
God before it's too late.
00:25:34.76\00:25:37.37
Jëan: You know, we have a study
guide and it deals with the
00:25:37.40\00:25:39.23
subject of why do bad
things happen to good people?
00:25:39.27\00:25:41.94
It's called "Did
God Create The Devil."
00:25:41.97\00:25:44.51
We know the Bible
speaks of the Devil.
00:25:44.54\00:25:45.87
The Devil is alive and well, and
he's doing his evil and bringing
00:25:45.91\00:25:49.91
pain and suffering to people,
but where did he come from?
00:25:49.94\00:25:52.25
Well this study guide
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00:25:52.28\00:25:54.62
All you need to do
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The number is 800-835-6747.
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And you can ask
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00:25:59.69\00:26:01.09
It's called, "Did
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00:26:01.12\00:26:03.96
And just a lot of
good Bible verses in there.
00:26:03.99\00:26:06.66
Doug: Very good,
we got--well let's see
00:26:06.70\00:26:07.96
if we can do a quick one here.
00:26:08.00\00:26:09.30
Jëan: All right.
It's James in California.
00:26:09.33\00:26:10.63
James, welcome to
"Bible answers Live."
00:26:10.67\00:26:12.63
James: Hey, good
evening, pastors.
00:26:12.67\00:26:13.97
So, my question is, where do
we see the Trinity, the Father,
00:26:14.00\00:26:17.44
Son, and Holy Spirit in
Genesis chapter 1 in the
00:26:17.47\00:26:20.21
creation story?
00:26:20.24\00:26:21.58
Doug: All right, well first
of all, you're not going to find
00:26:21.61\00:26:23.55
the word Trinity.
00:26:23.58\00:26:25.11
Even though you're not going to
find the word ascension in the
00:26:25.15\00:26:28.12
Bible, we know that it's
a teaching Jesus ascended
00:26:28.15\00:26:30.42
to heaven.
00:26:30.45\00:26:31.79
You're not going to find the
word millennium in the Bible,
00:26:31.82\00:26:33.76
but we know Revelation 20
talks about the millennium, the
00:26:33.79\00:26:36.83
1000 years.
00:26:36.86\00:26:38.16
The Trinity is the
three persons of the Godhead.
00:26:38.19\00:26:40.80
When God says in Genesis,
"Let us make man in Our image."
00:26:40.83\00:26:45.83
And God says that the man and
the woman, there's two of them,
00:26:45.87\00:26:49.40
they get
married, they become one.
00:26:49.44\00:26:51.51
We learn right there in Genesis
that one does not always mean
00:26:51.54\00:26:55.04
numerical quantity.
00:26:55.08\00:26:56.78
It can mean unity.
00:26:56.81\00:26:58.71
Jesus prayed the 12
disciples would be one.
00:26:58.75\00:27:02.25
"Father," he said,
"even as you and I are one."
00:27:02.28\00:27:04.55
And so, God, the Father,
the Son, and the Spirit are one.
00:27:04.59\00:27:08.29
It does say, "And the Spirit
of God moved upon the face of
00:27:08.32\00:27:11.39
the waters."
00:27:11.43\00:27:12.76
So you've got the
Holy Spirit there.
00:27:12.79\00:27:14.10
You've got God saying,
"Let us make man in Our image."
00:27:14.10\00:27:17.20
God the Father and Son,
it tells us how to form.
00:27:17.23\00:27:20.30
Well, we could say more.
00:27:20.34\00:27:21.64
We have a book on that
called "Understanding the
00:27:21.67\00:27:23.57
Trinity, One God or Three."
00:27:23.61\00:27:24.91
Ask for a copy.
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My name is Doug Batchelor.
00:31:29.58\00:31:30.85
Jëan: My name is Jëan Ross, and
Pastor, we have some folks who
00:31:30.89\00:31:33.36
emailed their Bible questions to
us, and we're going to take one
00:31:33.39\00:31:35.82
of these questions right now.
00:31:35.86\00:31:37.56
And this question is, "In Romans
chapter 6, verse 23, it says
00:31:37.59\00:31:40.96
that, 'The wages of sin is
death,' but in 1 John chapter
00:31:41.00\00:31:44.27
5:17, it says, 'There that
not every sin leads to death.'
00:31:44.30\00:31:48.60
Can you explain this?"
00:31:48.64\00:31:50.64
Doug: Yeah, well the penalty for
all sin is death, but not every
00:31:50.67\00:31:53.81
sin leads to the second death,
meaning there's no forgiveness.
00:31:53.84\00:31:57.98
But the unpardonable sin
leads to the second death.
00:31:58.01\00:32:01.08
There's no forgiveness
for the unpardonable sin.
00:32:01.12\00:32:04.19
And so, yeah, "All manner of sin
and blasphemy will be forgiven,"
00:32:04.22\00:32:07.56
Jesus said, and this is in
Matthew 12, except blasphemy
00:32:07.59\00:32:11.13
against the Holy Spirit.
00:32:11.16\00:32:12.73
We had a caller earlier in the
program was asking, you know, "I
00:32:12.76\00:32:15.63
wonder if I've
grieved away the spirit?"
00:32:15.66\00:32:17.53
We actually have a book
that's dealing with what is the
00:32:17.57\00:32:20.84
unpardonable sin.
00:32:20.87\00:32:22.34
And if people want to know more
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00:32:25.24\00:32:27.68
Jëan: All right?
00:32:27.71\00:32:29.01
And maybe one more
question that was emailed to us.
00:32:29.04\00:32:30.58
By the way, if you want to
send us a question, it's just
00:32:30.61\00:32:32.31
simply
balquestions@amazingfacts.org.
00:32:32.35\00:32:36.32
That's the email address.
00:32:36.35\00:32:37.82
"In Exodus chapter 24, verse
11," the question is, "did the
00:32:37.85\00:32:41.56
elders who went up with Moses
on the mount, did they see God's
00:32:41.59\00:32:44.63
glory or did they
see the glory of Jesus?"
00:32:44.66\00:32:48.50
Doug: Yeah, good question.
00:32:48.53\00:32:49.83
It actually says that, you know,
the elders went up, not to the
00:32:49.86\00:32:53.30
top of the mountain, but
they went to the base of the
00:32:53.34\00:32:54.97
mountain, which no one
else was allowed to do.
00:32:55.00\00:32:57.57
And it says, "They saw
God and they ate and drank."
00:32:57.61\00:33:00.71
Now, that doesn't mean they
saw God's face because God told
00:33:00.74\00:33:04.55
Moses, "No man will
see my face and live."
00:33:04.58\00:33:07.05
Moses saw God from behind.
00:33:07.08\00:33:10.52
The elders
probably saw God's glory.
00:33:10.55\00:33:12.95
I don't think that they looked
directly into the unveiled face
00:33:12.99\00:33:17.43
of the Almighty.
00:33:17.46\00:33:18.89
But you know, even Jacob, when
he wrestled with the angel, he
00:33:18.93\00:33:21.56
said, "I saw God."
00:33:21.60\00:33:23.73
And sometimes people see a
manifestation of God or see the
00:33:23.77\00:33:27.04
glory of God, and they'll
say, "I saw God," or "God spoke
00:33:27.07\00:33:29.94
to me."
00:33:29.97\00:33:31.37
So, I don't believe they
saw the unveiled glory of God.
00:33:31.41\00:33:35.18
That's why Jesus came.
00:33:35.21\00:33:37.28
The glory of God
was veiled in humanity.
00:33:37.31\00:33:40.62
Jëan: All right, we're going
to go to the phone lines then.
00:33:40.65\00:33:42.22
We got Gail in Michigan.
00:33:42.25\00:33:43.69
Gail, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:33:43.72\00:33:45.45
You're on the air.
00:33:45.49\00:33:46.79
Gail: Hello.
00:33:46.82\00:33:48.16
Thank you for taking my call and
thanks for--thank you for all
00:33:48.19\00:33:50.73
you do.
00:33:50.76\00:33:52.09
It literally saved my life.
00:33:52.13\00:33:54.46
Doug: Praise the Lord.
00:33:54.46\00:33:55.76
And your question tonight, Gail?
00:33:55.80\00:33:57.73
Gail: My question is, is being
filled with the Holy Spirit and
00:33:57.77\00:34:02.17
speaking in
tongues the same thing?
00:34:02.20\00:34:05.07
Doug: No, not necessarily.
00:34:05.11\00:34:06.64
You do have an example in
the Bible, or a couple of them,
00:34:06.68\00:34:09.98
where they were baptized with
the Holy Spirit, and they spoke
00:34:10.01\00:34:12.45
in tongues in Acts chapter
2, Acts chapter 10, and then
00:34:12.48\00:34:17.05
Acts 19.
00:34:17.09\00:34:19.02
But a lot of times--you can read
in Acts chapter 4--they were
00:34:19.05\00:34:21.92
filled with the Holy Spirit,
and they spoke the Word of God.
00:34:21.96\00:34:24.76
You can read where the--and
the Holy Spirit came upon
00:34:24.79\00:34:27.76
David and the Holy
Spirit came upon Samson.
00:34:27.83\00:34:31.20
And when the Holy Spirit comes
upon you, you will manifest a
00:34:31.23\00:34:35.04
variety of
different gifts of the Spirit.
00:34:35.07\00:34:38.24
For Samson, it was a gift
of physical strength when the
00:34:38.27\00:34:40.58
Spirit of the Lord came on him.
00:34:40.61\00:34:42.31
Holy Spirit came on
David, and it gave him
00:34:42.34\00:34:44.61
administrative ability.
00:34:44.65\00:34:46.35
The Spirit came on him, and
he wrote these Spirit-filled
00:34:46.38\00:34:49.78
psalms, gift of
music, you might say.
00:34:49.82\00:34:53.19
And so, you can read a list of
the gifts of the Spirit you're
00:34:53.22\00:34:57.43
going to find in--well, those
are the fruits of the Spirit,
00:34:57.46\00:34:59.76
you'll find in Galatians chapter
5, but different gifts of the
00:34:59.79\00:35:02.80
Spirit you find in, I think it's
1 Corinthians 12, where it talks
00:35:02.83\00:35:06.30
about, you know, some are
teachers, some administrators,
00:35:06.33\00:35:08.87
workers of miracles, some
are apostles, some are prophets.
00:35:08.90\00:35:12.21
There's a broad variety.
00:35:12.24\00:35:15.34
And the lists in the Bible are
probably not listing everything
00:35:15.38\00:35:18.91
that God's Spirit
may empower you to do.
00:35:18.95\00:35:21.72
The gift of tongues is one of
many of the gifts of the Spirit,
00:35:21.75\00:35:25.69
but whenever you're filled with
the Spirit, you don't always
00:35:25.72\00:35:28.09
speak in tongues.
00:35:28.12\00:35:29.39
Jëan: And of course, you need to
understand what the Bible means
00:35:29.42\00:35:31.43
when it talks about
the gift of tongues.
00:35:31.46\00:35:33.53
It's a little different
than what some people claim is
00:35:33.56\00:35:35.96
the gift of tongues today.
00:35:36.00\00:35:38.00
So, we do have a book.
00:35:38.03\00:35:39.33
It's called "Understanding
Tongues," and we'll be happy to
00:35:39.37\00:35:42.20
send it to anyone
who calls and asks.
00:35:42.24\00:35:43.61
The number is 800-835-6747.
00:35:43.64\00:35:47.04
That is the resource phone line.
00:35:47.08\00:35:48.64
And you can ask for the book.
00:35:48.68\00:35:49.98
It's called
"Understanding Tongues."
00:35:50.01\00:35:51.71
And when people receive the gift
of tongues, and you read about
00:35:51.75\00:35:54.02
in the book of Acts, they
were able to preach or teach the
00:35:54.05\00:35:56.48
gospel in languages
that they hadn't learned.
00:35:56.52\00:35:59.92
So, it's for the
communication of the gospel.
00:35:59.95\00:36:03.09
All right, thank you, Gail.
00:36:03.12\00:36:04.46
We've got Glenn
and Linda in Ohio.
00:36:04.49\00:36:06.26
Glenn, Linda, welcome
to "Bible Answers Live."
00:36:06.29\00:36:08.43
Glenn: Thank you.
00:36:08.46\00:36:09.80
Good afternoon or evening and
thank you for taking my call.
00:36:09.83\00:36:13.03
Doug: Yes, thank you.
00:36:13.07\00:36:14.57
Glenn: It's at some point
in eternity, the eternal Yahweh
00:36:14.60\00:36:19.74
started a time capsule with
when he created the logos or
00:36:19.77\00:36:24.21
the Word.
00:36:24.25\00:36:26.38
And they created it together.
00:36:26.41\00:36:28.75
They created everything that has
been created according to the
00:36:28.78\00:36:32.02
book of John chapter 1.
00:36:32.05\00:36:34.69
Someplace 4000 years down
the road, there's a connection
00:36:34.72\00:36:39.29
between the logos
and the incarnate Yeshua.
00:36:39.33\00:36:45.50
Doug: So, how would you like
to frame that into a question?
00:36:45.53\00:36:48.87
Glenn: He refers to himself
as being created in the chapter
00:36:48.90\00:36:53.84
3:14 of Revelation,
00:36:53.88\00:36:56.91
and also the Alpha and Omega.
00:36:56.95\00:36:59.85
And the question is, the
Alpha, I understand that.
00:36:59.88\00:37:03.39
It is easy to understand.
00:37:03.42\00:37:05.22
But what does it mean that
Yeshua is the Omega, the end?
00:37:05.25\00:37:08.82
What does he mean by that?
00:37:08.86\00:37:10.49
Doug: All right, well,
first thing when it talks about
00:37:10.53\00:37:12.56
Jesus being the beginning
of the creation of God that you
00:37:12.59\00:37:15.30
read in Revelation 14,
I'm sorry, Revelation, I think
00:37:15.33\00:37:18.47
it's 3:14, yeah.
00:37:18.50\00:37:20.67
That doesn't mean
that Christ was created.
00:37:20.70\00:37:23.34
It says, "All things that
were made were made by him."
00:37:23.37\00:37:26.17
Well, if he was created before
that, it would, He would say,
00:37:26.21\00:37:29.54
"All things except Myself."
00:37:29.58\00:37:32.31
And the Bible
tells us God is love.
00:37:32.35\00:37:34.65
If God the Father existed at
some point in eternity before
00:37:34.68\00:37:38.32
Jesus, then who did He love?
00:37:38.35\00:37:40.46
You can't have
love for only yourself.
00:37:40.49\00:37:43.59
It's that love
must be expressed.
00:37:43.63\00:37:45.03
So, "Jesus is," the
Bible says, "from everlasting
00:37:45.06\00:37:48.06
to everlasting."
00:37:48.10\00:37:49.43
Now, the reason he uses the
phrase--he says, "I am the Alpha
00:37:49.46\00:37:51.83
and Omega," He's called the Word
of God, and every word in the
00:37:51.87\00:37:56.84
Greek alphabet, it started
with alpha and the last letter
00:37:56.87\00:37:59.61
was omega.
00:37:59.64\00:38:01.08
Like we would say, "He is
the A to Z in the Word of God."
00:38:01.11\00:38:04.65
He encompasses--every
Word of God is composed in Him.
00:38:04.68\00:38:07.98
He's the embodiment.
00:38:08.02\00:38:09.45
It doesn't mean that when you
got to the word omega, that now
00:38:09.48\00:38:13.02
you've got to the end of the
alphabet and that Jesus is going
00:38:13.05\00:38:15.22
to end.
00:38:15.26\00:38:16.59
And the word alpha did not
mean that he had a beginning.
00:38:16.62\00:38:19.66
So, Christ is without beginning.
00:38:19.69\00:38:21.76
He is from
everlasting to everlasting.
00:38:21.80\00:38:24.37
He is eternal God.
00:38:24.40\00:38:26.00
He's self-existent.
00:38:26.03\00:38:27.37
He's the Creator of all things.
00:38:27.40\00:38:29.34
And yeah, hope that we had that
in our book, "The Trinity" talks
00:38:29.37\00:38:33.17
about that, "One God or Three?"
00:38:33.21\00:38:36.18
We can send you,
Glenn, a free copy of that.
00:38:36.21\00:38:39.31
Jëan: The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:38:39.35\00:38:42.62
And again, you can ask for the
book on the "Trinity: One God or
00:38:42.65\00:38:45.92
Three?" and
we'll send that to you.
00:38:45.95\00:38:47.72
You can dial #250 on your
smartphone and say, "Bible
00:38:47.76\00:38:51.19
Answers Live," and then
ask for the book that way.
00:38:51.23\00:38:54.46
Thank you for calling.
00:38:54.46\00:38:55.76
Next caller we have
is Kate in California.
00:38:55.80\00:38:57.47
Kate, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:38:57.50\00:38:59.03
Kate: Thank you.
00:38:59.07\00:39:01.00
Would you please comment on
Daniel 11:45, the meaning of
00:39:01.04\00:39:08.54
that text?
00:39:08.58\00:39:10.05
Doug: All right, thanks a lot.
00:39:10.08\00:39:11.41
You gave us a really difficult
passage, but we'll do our best.
00:39:11.45\00:39:15.25
Now, it's talking
about this battle.
00:39:15.28\00:39:17.09
When you begin
Daniel, where does it start?
00:39:17.12\00:39:20.12
Daniel 10, where it talks about
the North and the South, or 11?
00:39:20.16\00:39:22.49
Jëan: 11, it starts there.
00:39:22.52\00:39:24.03
Doug: Daniel 11 it starts.
00:39:24.06\00:39:25.36
Pastor Ross just wrote a
series of lessons on Daniel.
00:39:25.39\00:39:28.36
And Daniel 11 talks about this
ongoing battle between the king
00:39:28.40\00:39:31.47
of the North and the South.
00:39:31.50\00:39:32.97
And this starts with
the generals of Alexander.
00:39:33.00\00:39:36.34
Alexander's kingdom divides
among four generals, and finally
00:39:36.37\00:39:39.94
it melts down to
two that are at war.
00:39:39.97\00:39:42.81
Israel was surrounded by an
ocean on the west and a great
00:39:42.84\00:39:47.95
desert on the east.
00:39:47.98\00:39:49.28
So, all of their invading
forces came from the north of
00:39:49.32\00:39:51.62
the south.
00:39:51.65\00:39:52.99
Even Nebuchadnezzar
was technically northeast.
00:39:53.02\00:39:55.49
He came from the north.
00:39:55.52\00:39:56.86
He was called a king of the
north, or they'd come from Egypt
00:39:56.89\00:39:59.53
or Ethiopia, they'd
come from the south.
00:39:59.56\00:40:02.73
And it goes back and forth
between the king of the north
00:40:02.76\00:40:05.57
and south.
00:40:05.60\00:40:06.94
Eventually, it tells us
that this king of the north, the
00:40:06.97\00:40:10.01
Greeks are overcome by the
Romans, and the king of the
00:40:10.04\00:40:12.67
north is being run by the Roman
Caesars, what we would call
00:40:12.71\00:40:15.98
pagan Rome.
00:40:16.01\00:40:17.68
I think in Daniel 11, it even
references Augustus Caesar, a
00:40:17.71\00:40:20.98
collector of taxes.
00:40:21.02\00:40:22.35
Is that right?
00:40:22.38\00:40:23.69
And then it goes on and it
talks about it transitioning to
00:40:23.72\00:40:27.96
papal Rome.
00:40:27.99\00:40:29.69
So, papal Rome is
the king of the north.
00:40:29.72\00:40:32.46
So, now let me go to
your verse in verse 45.
00:40:32.49\00:40:34.93
It says, "He'll plant the tent,"
or the tabernacle, "of his
00:40:34.96\00:40:37.40
palace between the seas and the
glorious holy mountain; and yet
00:40:37.43\00:40:42.77
he will come to his end,
and no one will help him."
00:40:42.80\00:40:46.01
Well, it talks about the
holy mountain between the seas.
00:40:46.04\00:40:50.85
Jerusalem was thought of as
being between Galilee, the Dead
00:40:50.88\00:40:54.28
Sea, and the Mediterranean,
that high ground there.
00:40:54.32\00:40:57.55
And waters
biblically represent people.
00:40:57.59\00:41:00.76
And, stop me, you may have a
little different view on this,
00:41:00.79\00:41:03.36
so I'll be happy
to entertain that.
00:41:03.39\00:41:05.86
And so, it's talking about
this counterfeit power that is
00:41:05.89\00:41:09.20
wanting worship.
00:41:09.23\00:41:10.57
You read in 1 Thessalonians that
he sits in the temple of God,
00:41:10.60\00:41:14.37
showing himself that he is
God, wanting worship, and it's
00:41:14.40\00:41:17.41
talking about planting
his tabernacle there, putting
00:41:17.44\00:41:20.48
himself in the place of God.
00:41:20.51\00:41:22.21
And yet finally, he
will come to his end.
00:41:22.24\00:41:24.85
Jëan: Yeah, absolutely, pastor.
00:41:24.88\00:41:26.28
And of course, from verse 40
onwards, it talks about the time
00:41:26.31\00:41:29.02
of the end and the king of the
North and the South, and they'll
00:41:29.05\00:41:31.52
go back and forth.
00:41:31.55\00:41:33.29
We understand from verse 40
through to verse 45 has yet a
00:41:33.32\00:41:36.69
future application.
00:41:36.73\00:41:38.03
It hasn't met it's fulfillment,
it's prophetic fulfillment
00:41:38.06\00:41:41.70
because when you get to chapter
12, verse 1, you have the close
00:41:41.73\00:41:43.97
of probation.
00:41:44.00\00:41:45.33
That's when Michael stands up.
00:41:45.37\00:41:46.67
So, yes, there
is some discussion.
00:41:46.70\00:41:48.70
It does appear from those verses
that there's some kind of a
00:41:48.74\00:41:51.47
showdown that takes place.
00:41:51.51\00:41:53.68
Some have seen the king of
the North, as you mentioned,
00:41:53.71\00:41:55.98
representing the papal power,
but the papal power with the
00:41:56.01\00:41:58.71
backing of the Western nations
or the Christian nations, the
00:41:58.75\00:42:03.39
military of which, like NATO,
for example, the king of the
00:42:03.42\00:42:06.59
South, representing on a
spiritual level, representing
00:42:06.62\00:42:11.03
Islam as being the main
religion with the backing of the
00:42:11.06\00:42:14.13
so-called atheistic
nations like China and Russia.
00:42:14.20\00:42:18.00
And yet we are talking about
something yet in the future, but
00:42:18.03\00:42:21.20
it brings you right up till
the very close of probation when
00:42:21.24\00:42:24.87
Michael stands up and Jesus
said, "He that is holy, let him
00:42:24.91\00:42:27.51
be holy still."
00:42:27.54\00:42:28.88
So, I think we'll have a clear
understanding of these verses as
00:42:28.91\00:42:31.48
we get closer to the fulfillment
of what's been described.
00:42:31.51\00:42:34.85
But it does appear that there
will be some kind of law or
00:42:34.88\00:42:37.62
legislation passed that brings
the whole world together in a
00:42:37.65\00:42:41.79
certain form of worship.
00:42:41.82\00:42:43.59
It talks about tidings
from the east and the west
00:42:43.63\00:42:46.09
trouble him.
00:42:46.13\00:42:47.46
So, it's a big study, but
there's a number of aspects
00:42:47.50\00:42:49.96
connected with that.
00:42:50.00\00:42:51.33
But I think the bulk of this is
yet future in its application.
00:42:51.37\00:42:53.70
Doug: Yeah, but it's exciting to
think that we're living probably
00:42:53.74\00:42:56.17
between verse 42 and chapter 12.
00:42:56.20\00:42:59.11
Jëan: Yeah, we're
getting right there.
00:42:59.14\00:43:01.01
Doug: We are
living right near the end.
00:43:01.04\00:43:02.91
That's exciting.
00:43:02.94\00:43:04.28
All right, well,
thank you so much.
00:43:04.31\00:43:05.61
Hope that makes sense.
00:43:05.65\00:43:06.98
And your lessons are going to
come out fairly soon, I think,
00:43:07.02\00:43:08.65
on Daniel.
00:43:08.68\00:43:09.98
Jëan: Yeah, they can
check them out at Amazing Facts.
00:43:10.02\00:43:11.72
I think in the next couple
of months they should have
00:43:11.75\00:43:13.79
them done.
00:43:13.82\00:43:15.16
Elizabeth in Arizona.
00:43:15.19\00:43:16.49
Elizabeth, welcome
to "Bible Answers Live."
00:43:16.52\00:43:17.86
Elizabeth: Hi, thank you.
00:43:17.89\00:43:20.03
I listen to you
guys all the time.
00:43:20.06\00:43:22.23
Doug: Thanks so much.
00:43:22.26\00:43:23.57
My question is, my former pastor
says that when he preaches on
00:43:23.60\00:43:28.04
Sundays, that's not a day of
rest for him at all, and I've
00:43:28.07\00:43:32.41
always been curious as to
how you personally, you guys
00:43:32.44\00:43:36.38
personally reconcile that.
00:43:36.41\00:43:37.81
I feel for you and I appreciate
the service any pastor does on
00:43:37.85\00:43:42.82
the day of the--what they, you
know, how do you get a Sabbath
00:43:42.85\00:43:48.39
when you work so hard?
00:43:48.42\00:43:50.19
Doug: That's a fair question.
00:43:50.23\00:43:51.56
You know, Jesus
addresses that too.
00:43:51.59\00:43:53.80
Jesus would heal people on the
Sabbath, and he'd teach on the
00:43:53.83\00:43:56.30
Sabbath, and they accused
him of breaking the Sabbath.
00:43:56.33\00:43:58.80
He said it's okay to
do good on the Sabbath.
00:43:58.83\00:44:01.27
And then Christ says
something that is interesting.
00:44:01.30\00:44:04.27
He said, "The priests profane
the Sabbath and are guiltless."
00:44:04.31\00:44:09.34
Now, what he meant by that
was on the Sabbath day in the
00:44:09.38\00:44:12.31
temple, one of the things they
did is they offered a sacrifice.
00:44:12.35\00:44:16.05
Well, to have the sacrifice,
the priest would sacrifice
00:44:16.08\00:44:19.69
a victim.
00:44:19.72\00:44:21.06
They would then
butcher the victim.
00:44:21.09\00:44:22.39
They had to have the fire going
to put the victim on the fire,
00:44:22.42\00:44:25.33
so they were hauling and
stoking the fire with wood.
00:44:25.36\00:44:28.50
So, the priests had busy
activities on the Sabbath, but
00:44:28.53\00:44:31.40
Jesus said, "They're doing what
was necessary to do that the
00:44:31.43\00:44:35.34
greater group may worship."
00:44:35.37\00:44:37.74
And that they profane, in other
words, they're working on the
00:44:37.77\00:44:40.48
Sabbath, but they are guiltless.
00:44:40.51\00:44:42.41
So, there's some work that
is required on the Sabbath.
00:44:42.44\00:44:45.61
You know, in our church,
sometimes we have several
00:44:45.65\00:44:47.55
different services, and our
deacons--bless their hearts--
00:44:47.58\00:44:50.49
they have to pick up chairs and
put chairs down between services
00:44:50.52\00:44:53.46
for different--move
them to different rooms.
00:44:53.49\00:44:54.96
We just don't
have enough chairs,
00:44:54.99\00:44:56.46
and they're not
breaking the Sabbath.
00:44:56.49\00:44:57.79
They're doing some of the
Levitical work, you might say,
00:44:57.83\00:45:00.76
on the Sabbath day.
00:45:00.80\00:45:02.06
And we're doing what we have
to do that the greater group
00:45:02.10\00:45:04.27
might worship.
00:45:04.30\00:45:05.63
Now, after, you know, church
yesterday and you preach and you
00:45:05.67\00:45:10.14
teach and I gave a Bible study.
00:45:10.17\00:45:13.04
I go home and I
eat and I take a nap.
00:45:13.07\00:45:15.11
Then I came back for doing
worship for the family night.
00:45:15.14\00:45:18.35
And so, you know,
you get rest, and--
00:45:18.38\00:45:23.55
Jëan: But it is a busy day.
00:45:23.59\00:45:24.89
Doug: It is a busy day, yeah.
00:45:24.92\00:45:26.55
But we'll take a little
more time off on a Monday
00:45:26.59\00:45:28.49
or something.
00:45:28.52\00:45:29.82
So, you'll get your
other projects done.
00:45:29.86\00:45:31.86
Jëan: It's good to have time
with the family and you can rest
00:45:31.89\00:45:34.63
and do different things.
00:45:34.66\00:45:35.96
But yes, being a pastor, your
main priority, probably your
00:45:36.00\00:45:38.83
busiest day, is on the Sabbath
when you're involved in worship.
00:45:38.87\00:45:43.87
All right, thank you, Elizabeth.
00:45:43.91\00:45:45.24
We've got James in Arizona.
00:45:45.27\00:45:46.57
James, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:45:46.61\00:45:48.04
James: Hey, I've got a
question for you guys, and I can
00:45:48.08\00:45:52.78
clarify this a little bit if you
need me to, but it seems like
00:45:52.81\00:45:56.85
there's a bunch, with
even within people who call
00:45:56.89\00:46:00.52
themselves Christian, there's a
bunch of different versions like
00:46:00.56\00:46:03.79
one Jesus, you have to be
baptized and take sacraments,
00:46:03.83\00:46:06.63
and another one, you just say
a prayer, and then one turns you
00:46:06.66\00:46:11.47
into a god through theosis,
like, and the other one is like
00:46:11.50\00:46:14.74
washing you in blood and kind
of, like, making a deal with the
00:46:14.77\00:46:19.01
Father to get you into heaven.
00:46:19.04\00:46:21.31
Like, how do you know
which interpretation is correct
00:46:21.34\00:46:24.25
because they're
mutually exclusive.
00:46:24.28\00:46:26.75
Doug: Yeah, well, that's all the
more reason to find out--well,
00:46:26.78\00:46:29.35
let me back up and say, what do
you think would be the criteria
00:46:29.38\00:46:33.86
that we would use
to find the answer?
00:46:33.89\00:46:36.02
Would it be
Pastor Doug on the radio?
00:46:36.06\00:46:38.76
Would it be a
preacher in the pulpit?
00:46:38.79\00:46:40.46
Or would it be the Bible?
00:46:40.50\00:46:44.13
James: Well, since they all
appeal to the Bible, we can't
00:46:44.17\00:46:48.40
use the Bible because I'm asking
about how we interpret the
00:46:48.44\00:46:51.74
Bible, right?
00:46:51.77\00:46:53.24
So, it's--since even Muslims
believe that Christ is the
00:46:53.27\00:46:56.51
Messiah, and they
interpret the Bible differently.
00:46:56.54\00:46:59.71
Doug: Well, they're not using
the Bible to--if you use the
00:46:59.75\00:47:02.72
Bible as your final
authority, then the answers
00:47:02.75\00:47:05.95
become very clear.
00:47:05.99\00:47:07.49
And--but if you try to, and, you
know, I used to do this before I
00:47:07.52\00:47:10.49
was a Christian, I would try and
co mingle all the holy books and
00:47:10.53\00:47:13.16
it just creates chaos.
00:47:13.19\00:47:14.86
You try and get the Bhagavad
Gita and the Quran and the Bible
00:47:14.93\00:47:20.24
and you try and make sense of it
all and it's just--it's going to
00:47:20.27\00:47:23.47
leave you in confusion.
00:47:23.51\00:47:24.84
But if you look at the simple
teachings of Jesus by yourself,
00:47:24.87\00:47:28.28
you open up your Bible and
you go to Matthew chapter 1.
00:47:28.31\00:47:32.85
Read the Sermon on the Mount
that Jesus gives about loving
00:47:32.88\00:47:35.62
your enemy.
00:47:35.65\00:47:36.95
It's not complicated.
00:47:36.99\00:47:38.55
It's not the mysteries in
the Bible that is going to cause
00:47:38.59\00:47:43.43
the confusion.
00:47:43.46\00:47:45.16
It's the good we know we
should do that we ignore.
00:47:45.19\00:47:48.26
So, it's not that complicated
00:47:48.30\00:47:50.03
when you just
read it for yourself.
00:47:50.07\00:47:51.33
Jëan: And, you know, I was just
reading the Gospel of John, and
00:47:51.37\00:47:53.84
some of the clearest statements
about Christ, His mission, His
00:47:53.87\00:47:57.01
life, His death, how to be
saved, it's so clearly given in
00:47:57.04\00:48:01.34
the Gospel of John.
00:48:01.38\00:48:02.68
Even Jesus, speaking to the
religious leaders of His time,
00:48:02.71\00:48:05.01
and He's putting His position,
His relationship to His
00:48:05.05\00:48:08.48
Father clearly.
00:48:08.52\00:48:10.45
He's presenting it to
the religious leaders,
00:48:10.49\00:48:11.79
"I and My Father one.
00:48:11.82\00:48:13.12
Just I'm very powerful
if--unless you believe in me,
00:48:13.15\00:48:16.09
you can have life."
00:48:16.12\00:48:17.43
So, we've got to let
the Bible interpret itself.
00:48:17.46\00:48:18.96
I think part of the problem is
people listen to a lot of other
00:48:18.99\00:48:21.80
people give their interpretation
of the Bible instead of going to
00:48:21.83\00:48:25.27
the Word itself and reading
Scripture and allowing the
00:48:25.30\00:48:28.57
Scripture to explain itself.
00:48:28.60\00:48:29.94
You read one verse, and if you
don't understand it, then look
00:48:29.97\00:48:32.67
up other verses on the
same topic, and it'll bring it
00:48:32.71\00:48:34.81
to light.
00:48:34.84\00:48:36.18
Doug: Yeah, and you know, the
bottom line is, what does the
00:48:36.21\00:48:38.41
Bible say?
00:48:38.45\00:48:39.78
Jesus said in John 17:17, you
were just quoting the book of
00:48:39.81\00:48:42.92
John, "Sanctify
them by thy truth.
00:48:42.95\00:48:46.25
Your word is truth."
00:48:46.29\00:48:48.49
Ten percent of everything Jesus
said, He's quoting from the
00:48:48.52\00:48:50.96
Old Testament.
00:48:50.99\00:48:52.33
He's quoting from the Bible.
00:48:52.36\00:48:53.66
And then He tells us
that His words are truth.
00:48:53.70\00:48:58.83
The apostles said that it's--the
Bible's not just normal words.
00:48:58.87\00:49:04.04
Holy men spoke as they were
moved by the Holy Ghost, and
00:49:04.07\00:49:06.37
this book has been
preserved in a special way.
00:49:06.41\00:49:09.28
If you read it for
yourself, you will understand.
00:49:09.31\00:49:12.65
I was living in a cave 17 years
old, all confused by the, you
00:49:12.68\00:49:16.85
know, who was God and
the different religions.
00:49:16.89\00:49:19.22
Someone had left a Bible up in
the cave, along with some other
00:49:19.25\00:49:22.02
camping gear.
00:49:22.06\00:49:23.43
And I started reading the
Bible so I could argue with
00:49:23.46\00:49:26.06
Christians, and
that's what changed my life.
00:49:26.09\00:49:28.33
So, the power is
in the Word by itself.
00:49:28.36\00:49:31.93
All right, thank you
for your call, James.
00:49:31.97\00:49:33.37
Great question.
00:49:33.40\00:49:34.74
We've got
Michaelyn in New Jersey.
00:49:34.77\00:49:37.27
Michaelyn,
welcome to the program.
00:49:37.31\00:49:38.67
Michaelyn: Hi.
00:49:38.71\00:49:40.48
I want to know, was
Job Jewish or Gentile?
00:49:40.51\00:49:45.51
Doug: Okay, good question.
00:49:45.55\00:49:47.55
Sort of in between.
00:49:47.58\00:49:49.12
He was not a Jew in that he was
not from the tribe of Judah, but
00:49:49.15\00:49:52.79
when you look at the other
characters in the book of Job,
00:49:52.82\00:49:56.52
they are descendants of Esau,
which was a child of Abraham.
00:49:56.56\00:50:01.10
You know, Abraham, of course,
had Isaac, and Isaac had Jacob
00:50:01.13\00:50:04.43
and Esau, and the descendants of
Esau went to Edom, and near Edom
00:50:04.47\00:50:08.90
was the land of
Uz where Job lived.
00:50:08.94\00:50:11.34
And matter of fact, in the
genealogies of Esau, it talks
00:50:11.37\00:50:14.84
about someone named Jobab and
the wondering was that Job, and
00:50:14.88\00:50:20.12
it talks about his
friends are mentioned in that
00:50:20.15\00:50:22.28
same genealogy.
00:50:22.32\00:50:23.55
So, he was a child, a descendant
of Abraham and Isaac, but he was
00:50:23.59\00:50:29.52
not from the tribe of
Judah or a descendant of Israel.
00:50:29.56\00:50:32.59
Thanks, great question.
00:50:32.63\00:50:33.96
Hope that helps a
little bit, Michaelyn.
00:50:34.00\00:50:35.73
Jëan: We've got
Joseph in Florida.
00:50:35.76\00:50:37.23
Joseph, welcome to
"Bible Answer Life."
00:50:37.27\00:50:39.20
Joseph: Hello.
00:50:39.23\00:50:40.54
How are you, pastors?
00:50:40.57\00:50:42.07
Doug: We're doing great.
00:50:42.10\00:50:43.44
Thanks for calling.
00:50:43.47\00:50:44.77
Joseph: Thank you.
00:50:44.81\00:50:46.14
My question is, at the Second
Coming, when Christ comes back,
00:50:46.17\00:50:50.75
He's coming in all the glory of
the Father, the Holy Spirit, and
00:50:50.78\00:50:53.55
the angels.
00:50:53.58\00:50:54.92
And it says, "And when He had
opened the seventh seal, there
00:50:54.95\00:50:58.62
was silence in heaven about
the space of half an hour."
00:50:58.65\00:51:02.36
Does that mean that Enoch,
Elijah, and Moses will also be
00:51:02.39\00:51:07.23
at the Second Coming
since Moses and Elijah were at
00:51:07.30\00:51:10.60
the transfiguration?
00:51:10.63\00:51:12.03
Doug: Well,
it's a good question.
00:51:12.07\00:51:13.37
I had not thought of that,
but if I was Enoch, Moses, and
00:51:13.40\00:51:17.51
Elijah, who are in heaven
now, and I knew Jesus was coming
00:51:17.54\00:51:21.41
back, if there was an empty seat
on the plane, I'd ask if I could
00:51:21.44\00:51:24.75
get a ticket.
00:51:24.78\00:51:26.08
I'd sure like to
be there and see that.
00:51:26.11\00:51:27.65
So, I would expect, you know,
Moses was extremely interested
00:51:27.68\00:51:30.45
in the children of Israel
making it to the Promised Land.
00:51:30.49\00:51:33.96
He's probably going to
want a front row seat for that.
00:51:33.99\00:51:37.46
So, my guess is, yes.
00:51:37.49\00:51:39.16
You want to comment on that?
00:51:39.19\00:51:40.50
What's the silence in heaven?
00:51:40.53\00:51:41.83
Jëan: Yeah, the reason there's
silence in heaven is because
00:51:41.86\00:51:43.50
Christ and all the angels and,
quite possibly, Enoch, Elijah,
00:51:43.53\00:51:46.97
and Moses, they've all left.
00:51:47.00\00:51:49.00
And if anyone is still in
heaven--God the Father is in
00:51:49.04\00:51:51.84
heaven, and of course, He
can witness what's happening--
00:51:51.87\00:51:54.21
the focus is going to be on
Christ and his journey to the
00:51:54.24\00:51:56.64
earth to gather up the
saints and take them back to the
00:51:56.68\00:51:58.98
Father's house.
00:51:59.01\00:52:00.38
So, that seems to be the focus.
00:52:00.42\00:52:02.12
Silence in heaven for about the
space of half an hour works out
00:52:02.15\00:52:04.89
to about seven days of time.
00:52:04.92\00:52:07.12
So, it's not that it's three and
a half days for Jesus to come
00:52:07.16\00:52:10.33
from heaven to earth and
then three and a half days to
00:52:10.36\00:52:12.16
go back.
00:52:12.19\00:52:13.50
Christ can come very quickly,
but it seems as though He takes
00:52:13.53\00:52:16.30
the longer route back home.
00:52:16.33\00:52:17.83
Maybe there's some
things He wants to teach us.
00:52:17.87\00:52:20.17
Doug: How do you get
seven days out of half an hour?
00:52:20.20\00:52:23.51
Jëan: Well the reason being is
because you have one prophetic
00:52:23.54\00:52:26.88
day is equal to 1 literal year,
and they have 360 Hebrew days in
00:52:26.91\00:52:30.91
a year, and there's 24 hours in
the day, and one hour works out
00:52:30.95\00:52:35.18
to about 15 days, and a half
an hour would be half of that.
00:52:35.22\00:52:39.45
So, you make up
the week. Did I say--
00:52:39.49\00:52:42.29
Doug: Yeah, I want you
to explain that for people.
00:52:42.32\00:52:44.63
Jëan: Yeah, hopefully
they can get that seven days.
00:52:44.66\00:52:46.86
Doug: That made sense.
00:52:46.90\00:52:48.20
All right, what's next?
00:52:48.23\00:52:49.53
Jëan: All right, next
caller that we have is Dawn
00:52:49.56\00:52:50.87
in California.
00:52:50.90\00:52:52.27
Dawn, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:52:52.30\00:52:53.60
Dawn: Hi, pastors,
how are you tonight?
00:52:53.64\00:52:56.24
Doug: Better than we deserve.
00:52:56.27\00:52:58.54
Dawn: I have a question on
when, let's see, it was John 8,
00:52:58.57\00:53:04.55
verses 1 through 11 were added
to the manuscripts because the
00:53:04.58\00:53:07.98
earliest manuscripts I
read, it was not in there.
00:53:08.02\00:53:11.82
Doug: Yeah, that's--I
would just say, don't believe
00:53:11.85\00:53:14.89
those commentaries.
00:53:14.92\00:53:17.36
The reason they say that, and
it's not just John 8, they'll
00:53:17.39\00:53:19.86
also say the last few verses in
Mark chapter 16, they say, "Well
00:53:19.89\00:53:23.30
that's not in some manuscripts."
00:53:23.33\00:53:24.77
And so, some of the
modern translations just leave
00:53:24.80\00:53:27.60
that out.
00:53:27.64\00:53:28.94
That's very unfortunate because
one of the most incredible
00:53:28.97\00:53:31.11
stories in the Bible is John
chapter 8, the first few verses.
00:53:31.14\00:53:35.04
This woman is caught
in the act of adultery.
00:53:35.08\00:53:38.08
And Jesus said, "He that is
without sin, let him cast the
00:53:38.11\00:53:41.45
first stone."
00:53:41.48\00:53:43.52
It's believed that some of
the Austere church leaders, when
00:53:43.55\00:53:49.56
they read that hundreds of years
after Christ, it was in the
00:53:49.59\00:53:51.93
Scriptures, they said,
"Wow, that sounds like Jesus is
00:53:51.96\00:53:54.93
forgiving adultery," and they
just said, "Let's expunge that.
00:53:54.96\00:53:59.03
Let's lose that
first few verses there.
00:53:59.07\00:54:01.37
We don't want it to make
it sound like he said, I'm not
00:54:01.40\00:54:03.47
going to condemn
you for adultery."
00:54:03.51\00:54:05.64
And so, some of the church
fathers thought, "Well, let's
00:54:05.67\00:54:08.24
just take that out of some
of the Vaticanus or some of the
00:54:08.28\00:54:10.88
other translations."
00:54:10.91\00:54:12.25
But it was in the earliest.
00:54:12.28\00:54:14.42
Jëan: There's two
groups of manuscripts.
00:54:14.45\00:54:15.85
You have what's called the
Byzantine family, which was more
00:54:15.88\00:54:18.25
in modern day Turkey.
00:54:18.29\00:54:19.85
And then you have the
Alexandrian text, which is
00:54:19.89\00:54:22.49
much smaller.
00:54:22.52\00:54:23.83
There's much fewer manuscripts
in Alexandria in Egypt.
00:54:23.86\00:54:26.86
However, the oldest manuscripts
are from the Alexandria because
00:54:26.90\00:54:30.33
the temperature was
dry and desert-like.
00:54:30.37\00:54:32.77
But there were some questions
related to those manuscripts.
00:54:32.80\00:54:35.77
So, that's maybe one of the
reasons people say, "Well the
00:54:35.80\00:54:38.07
oldest manuscripts
don't know this passage."
00:54:38.11\00:54:39.81
Well there are so many
other manuscripts, part of the
00:54:39.84\00:54:42.51
Byzantine family, that do have
this passage, that it's pretty
00:54:42.54\00:54:45.55
evident that it
was in the original.
00:54:45.58\00:54:47.12
Doug: Yeah, and there are some
slightly newer manuscripts that
00:54:47.15\00:54:50.85
were copied from originals.
00:54:50.89\00:54:53.12
So, they're
actually more accurate.
00:54:53.15\00:54:55.26
And--but yeah, the
story, it bleeds Jesus.
00:54:55.29\00:55:01.30
And so, yeah, I believe it is,
00:55:01.33\00:55:03.80
it's very much
like what He said.
00:55:03.83\00:55:05.13
He actually says to other
people, "Go and sin no more."
00:55:05.17\00:55:08.07
You "know, He said, Lest the the
worst thing to come upon you."
00:55:08.10\00:55:10.21
So, it all fits with
the narrative of Christ.
00:55:10.24\00:55:14.01
Jëan: You know, we do have a
book that talks about the Bible.
00:55:14.04\00:55:15.91
It's called "The Ultimate
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00:55:15.94\00:55:17.98
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00:55:18.01\00:55:21.12
these questions.
00:55:21.15\00:55:22.38
If you'd like to receive it, the
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00:55:22.42\00:55:26.29
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00:55:26.32\00:55:27.62
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It's called "The Ultimate
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00:55:35.63\00:55:39.17
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00:55:39.20\00:55:42.30
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00:55:42.34\00:55:47.14
Doug: Very good.
00:55:47.18\00:55:48.88
You know, I wrote a book.
00:55:48.91\00:55:50.68
One reason I'm also passionate
about that question is I wrote a
00:55:50.71\00:55:53.42
book years ago that just was
near and dear to my heart, and
00:55:53.45\00:55:56.62
it's talking about at Jesus's
feet, the Gospel According to
00:55:56.65\00:55:59.95
Mary Magdalene.
00:56:00.06\00:56:01.29
And I put forth a hypothesis in
that book that Mary of Bethany,
00:56:01.32\00:56:06.59
Mary Magdalen were the same
Mary, and that woman caught in
00:56:06.63\00:56:11.43
the act of adultery
could have been Mary Magdalene.
00:56:11.47\00:56:15.70
And they didn't say her
name because, well, that would
00:56:15.74\00:56:17.77
obviously be an
embarrassing circumstance.
00:56:17.81\00:56:20.68
And so, yeah.
00:56:20.71\00:56:22.24
I did a lot of research on that
particular story and its origin.
00:56:22.28\00:56:26.88
And I do believe that you don't
have to question whether John
00:56:26.92\00:56:30.49
chapter 8, verses 1 through
11 or Mark 16, I think they are.
00:56:30.52\00:56:33.72
King James had it right.
00:56:33.76\00:56:35.06
They were all
part of the Scriptures.
00:56:35.09\00:56:36.56
Jëan: All right,
Pastor Doug, we've got another
00:56:36.59\00:56:37.89
email question.
00:56:37.93\00:56:39.26
And this one's got two parts.
00:56:39.29\00:56:41.00
So, maybe you can
take them one by one.
00:56:41.03\00:56:42.86
The first question is,
"Does every person have a
00:56:42.90\00:56:45.17
guardian angel?"
00:56:45.20\00:56:46.50
And, "What Bible
verse might be used?"
00:56:46.53\00:56:48.90
And then the next question would
be, "What do these angels do?"
00:56:48.94\00:56:52.67
They guard us, but is there
anything else that they do?
00:56:52.71\00:56:55.61
Doug: Yeah, well I believe
that everyone does have a
00:56:55.64\00:56:58.01
guardian angel.
00:56:58.05\00:56:59.51
You can read that it says in
Psalm 91, "The angel of the Lord
00:56:59.55\00:57:03.25
encamps round about
him that fears Him."
00:57:03.28\00:57:06.76
And then Jesus, speaking of
the children, He says, "Their
00:57:06.79\00:57:09.36
angels," making it sound
like every child's got an angel.
00:57:09.39\00:57:13.43
"Their angels do behold
the face of My Father which is
00:57:13.46\00:57:15.73
in heaven."
00:57:15.76\00:57:17.10
And there's so many times when
someone's eyes were opened and
00:57:17.13\00:57:20.64
then they see
angels that are there.
00:57:20.67\00:57:24.21
It was, I believe, angels that
were guiding the wise men when
00:57:24.24\00:57:28.51
they saw that star.
00:57:28.54\00:57:29.88
This moving star was
not a comet or something.
00:57:29.91\00:57:33.35
Astronomers trying to say,
"Oh well, I wonder what comet
00:57:33.38\00:57:35.38
happened that year."
00:57:35.42\00:57:36.72
I think it was a band
of angels that they saw.
00:57:36.75\00:57:39.35
So, when Elisha said,
"Open his eyes," his servant.
00:57:39.39\00:57:44.66
He was so worried about the
Syrian army, and God opened the
00:57:44.69\00:57:47.60
eyes of Elisha's servant.
00:57:47.66\00:57:49.10
He saw the hills and the
mountains were filled with
00:57:49.13\00:57:51.17
chariots and horses of fire.
00:57:51.20\00:57:53.07
They were surrounded by angels.
00:57:53.10\00:57:54.94
So, a lot more angels out there.
00:57:54.97\00:57:56.97
Good thing there's twice as
many good angels as bad ones.
00:57:57.01\00:57:59.67
So, you don't have
to be afraid, friends.
00:57:59.71\00:58:01.31
God willing, we'll talk
about it again next week.
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