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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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Doug Batchelor: Hello, friends.
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Welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
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Would you like to
hear an amazing fact?
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Theodore Roosevelt, the 26th
president, was probably among
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the most remarkable US leaders.
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After all, you don't get your
head on Mount Rushmore without
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a good reason.
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Roosevelt came from a wealthy
family, but his character was
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forged through many
difficult experiences.
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His father, who he loved very
much, died before he was 20.
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Then Roosevelt survived the
tragedy of losing his young wife
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and his own mother to
illness on the same day in 1884.
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He survived malaria, exploring
a tributary of the Amazon, and
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a year hunting in
the wilds of Africa.
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He survived an extremely
dangerous military charge in
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Cuba in 1898, for which he
won the Congressional Medal of
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Honor, and he survived an
assassination attempt in 1912 at
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point blank range, and he went
from the assassination attempt
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bleeding, and
delivered a speech.
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In 1906, Roosevelt was the first
president to win the Nobel Peace
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Prize, persuading Japan
and Russia to end a conflict.
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Roosevelt had a
virtually photographic memory.
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Historians say he could recite
long sections of poetry verbatim
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over a decade after
he read the passages.
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Roosevelt was also a prolific
writer, authoring 35 books,
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including an autobiography,
and writing an estimated
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150,000 letters.
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The president continued
his hobby of boxing well into
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his presidency.
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Roosevelt was blind in one
eye after a boxing injury in the
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White House, so he
switched to jiu-jitsu instead.
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The popular teddy bear was
named after President Theodore
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Roosevelt because he
refused to shoot an old bear.
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Teddy Roosevelt is recognized as
a key figure in creating the US
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National Park System and was
also the father of the modern
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US Navy.
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He sent the American Navy on a
worldwide tour in 1907 as a show
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of strength.
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Probably his ultimate
achievement was connecting the
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eastern and western hemispheres
by building the Panama Canal.
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Even his opponents agreed he
was a man of remarkable energy,
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determination, and courage.
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Now, he was not a
perfect man, Pastor Ross.
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I think his daughter said that
he had a little bit of pride,
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and he wanted to be the bride at
every wedding and the corpse at
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every funeral, the center
of attention, but he was a very
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brilliant man and a
very courageous man.
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He was somewhat fearless.
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And you know, I think about when
Moses was dying, he encouraged
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Joshua to be courageous.
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Leaders need courage.
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Christians need
courage in this day and age.
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I think about the verse when
God spoke to Joshua after Moses
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died, and this is
Joshua 1, verse 9.
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Actually, you can
read verse 5 through 9,
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but this is just verse 9:
"Have not I commanded you?
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Be strong and of good courage;
do not be afraid, or dismayed,
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for the Lord your God is
with you wherever you go."
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What a wonderful promise.
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Don't be afraid.
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Jesus said, "I am with
you to the end of the world."
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Friends, maybe you are
intimidated by the devil,
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by sin, by friends that are not
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more courage to
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Well, Pastor Doug, we've got a
number of folks who are standing
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by with their Bible questions,
but before we go to the phone
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lines, let's start with prayer.
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Dear Father, we are so glad that
we have this opportunity once
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again to be able
to study Your Word.
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The Bible is truth, and Jesus
said, "You shall know the truth,
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and the truth
will set you free."
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Thank You, Father, for this
opportunity to study together,
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and we ask Your
blessing in Jesus's name, amen.
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Doug: Amen.
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Jean: Our first caller
this evening, we've got Glen and
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Linda listening in Ohio.
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Glen, Linda, welcome
to "Bible Answers Live."
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Glen: Thank you for
taking my call and welcome from
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Bethel, Ohio.
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Doug: Thank you.
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Glen: You know, there are those
who believe that three, four,
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maybe as many as five of
the trumpets of Revelation have
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already been blown, like the
First World War and Second World
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War, and
Chernobyl, to mention a few.
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But my question is, the trumpet
of Matthew 24, the trumpet of
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Thessalonians 4, and the seventh
trumpet of Revelation, are they
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the same trumpet?
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That's my question.
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Doug: Oh, okay.
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Well, the trumpets that are
spoken of in Matthew chapter 24
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and in 1 Thessalonians is really
talking about that trump that
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calls forth the dead to life.
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Now, the seven trumpets that you
find in Revelation, they're--
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now, keep in mind, Revelation
is a panorama of church history
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from the First Coming,
when the book is given, to the
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Second Coming.
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We're what we call historicists
in our interpretation.
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So you are correct that
these trumpets have been being
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fulfilled in
segments of history.
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Pastor Ross, yeah, one
thing I've heard is, it's very
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simplistic, but you've got a
number of sevens in Revelation.
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You've got seven churches,
seven seals, seven trumpets, and
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there's, of
course seven plagues.
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But the seven churches kind
of give a religious history from
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the First to the Second Coming.
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The seven seals, more of a
political history; and the seven
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trumpets, something
of a military history.
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And so the last trumpet is the
final battle where Christ comes.
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Keep in mind seven trumpets were
blown before Joshua took the
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Promised Land, and as the
seventh trumpet is blown, and
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then Jesus, our Joshua, he comes
and recaptures this world and
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creates a new
promised land, so to speak.
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So, they are different, but I
think you've just finished some
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Daniel lessons, huh?
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You have one on the trumpets.
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Jean: We do, we do have
some stuff on the trumpets.
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Not available here yet, but
really, you find the trumpets in
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Daniel, sorry,
Revelation chapter 8 and 9.
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And as you mentioned, Pastor
Doug, they do emphasize certain
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issues of judgment or war.
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And according to Bible prophecy
in Revelation in particular,
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we're living in that seventh
trumpet even now with the
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various current events,
things happening in the world.
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Under the seventh trump, but it
says the nations were angry and
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time of the dead that they
should be judged, talks about
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war and just anger.
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Well, we see that all happening
in our world today, and that
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leads into
Second Coming of Christ.
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Doug: That's right.
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Well, thank you so
much, Glen and Linda.
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And we appreciate your call.
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Jean: We've got
Elizabeth listening in Arizona.
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Elizabeth, welcome
to "Bible Answers Live."
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You're on the air.
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Elizabeth: Hi, my question
concerns Malachi chapter 4,
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verse 6.
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This passage terrifies me.
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Doug: Okay, let me
read that for our friends.
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I'm going to read 5
and 6 because they kind of
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go together.
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Well, verse 4 says: "Remember
the law of Moses, which I
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commanded him in Mount Horeb for
all Israel, with the statutes of
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judgment--the
statutes and judgment.
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Behold, I send you Elijah the
prophet before the coming of the
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great and
dreadful day of the Lord."
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Now let's stop there real quick.
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Both these two characters, and
this is the last chapter in the
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last book of the Old Testament.
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If you're in your Bibles and you
turn the page, now you're in the
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New Testament.
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In the next book of Matthew,
Mark, and Luke, Moses and Elijah
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appear to Jesus on the Mount of
Transfiguration when he's with
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Peter, James, and John.
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And Jesus said John the
Baptist, to some extent, was
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a fulfillment of
a return of Elijah.
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But he wasn't the final example.
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He said Elijah will
come, and Elijah has come.
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So John was at least a partial
fulfillment who paved the way
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for a great revival.
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But before the Lord comes again,
it says, "He'll turn the hearts
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of the fathers to the children,"
now in Malachi chapter 4, verse
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6, "and the hearts of the
children to the fathers, lest I
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come and strike the
earth with a curse."
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Well, this is telling us that,
for one thing, Jesus said in the
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last days, the love of many will
grow cold, and that means even
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love in families where, you
know, you see epidemic divorce
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and a lot of families are
growing up without the father.
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The message of Elijah is
going to bring revival and more
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familial love into the home.
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But it's beyond that when it
says, "The hearts of the fathers
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to the children," you know, that
it seems like there's always
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been a generation gap.
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You can read about Plato
and Aristotle talking about the
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generation gap in their days.
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So it seems like the older
people that have a little more
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wisdom, they just aren't able
to connect with the younger, and
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the younger think the older
ones are stodgy and they're just
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too slow.
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But it's talking about
the younger believing in the
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teachings of the older, the
younger people returning to the
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faith of the fathers, and the
fathers listening to the energy
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of the younger.
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So there's also
that happening here.
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He says, "Lest I come and
strike the earth with a curse."
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Well, don't let
that frighten you.
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We know that when Jesus comes,
the dead in Christ are going
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to rise, the
righteous are caught up.
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When the world is struck at the
Second Coming, the saved don't
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have to worry about that.
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Jean: All right,
thank you, Elizabeth.
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We've got Alan in California.
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Alan, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Alan: Good evening, gentlemen.
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Calling from
Bakersfield, California.
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Doug: Thanks for calling.
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Alan: All right, my question
is regards Proverbs 13:22.
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The back half of that says: "The
wealth of the wicked is reserved
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for the righteous."
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Now, is the wealth obtained
illegally or immorally or both,
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or what's the wealth
and who's the wicked?
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Doug: Yeah, okay.
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Well, wicked, of course, are
anybody who is living a life of
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rebellion against God and
disobeying God, they're living
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lives of sin.
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And wicked is actually a word
kind of reserved a little more
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for those not struggling with
temptation, but those who have
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given over to it.
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They have no problem stealing to
get wealth or being unscrupulous
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and--or grinding down, James
talks about the rich who have
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ground down the poor to get
their riches and taken advantage
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of people.
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And so, people who accumulate
wealth like that, they think
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they're going to pass it on to
their heritage, but often what
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happens is, it's lost and
the righteous somehow end up
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getting it.
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So, it's just saying that
the posterity of the wicked, the
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wealth does not go to
them, those who have gotten it,
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illegal gain, so to speak.
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Jean: And I think it's also
referring to the wise, those who
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have wisdom, self-control, who
plan, who organize, well, they
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usually have something
to leave to their children.
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But those who are just living
for self, it seems that they
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squander their money
and there's nothing left.
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We've heard of all kinds of
stories of people that have won
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a tremendous amount of money,
maybe they won the lottery
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or something.
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And in a few
years, they're broke.
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They've spent it all.
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Doug: Or in debt.
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Jean: They've just
wasted away their money.
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And I think that's the point
that's being emphasized here
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versus wisdom and
just foolish selfishness.
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All right, thank you,
Alan. Quentin in Florida.
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Quentin, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Quentin: Hello. Doug: Hi.
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Quentin: Yes, I wanted to know
if, in the Bible, does it talk
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about unfallen worlds, and if
so, did Satan tempt them as well
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when he got kicked out of
heaven or was it just Earth?
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Doug: Yes to both questions.
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Are there worlds
besides our planet?
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Well, yeah, God, you know,
God has lived for eternity.
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The idea that He didn't do
anything or create anything
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until He got to our
world is kind of, I think
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limited thinking.
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You can look in the Bible.
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Let me give you some scripture.
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It says in Hebrews chapter
1: "God, who at various times in
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various ways spoke in time past
to the fathers by the prophets,
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has spoken in these last days to
us by His Son, whom He appointed
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heir of all things," now
listen, "through whom He made
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the worlds."
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He didn't make just the
world, but He made worlds.
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And you can read in Revelation
about everyone in heaven
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and Earth.
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And then in Job it talks about
there was a day when the sons of
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God came to present
themselves before the Lord.
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Satan came and God
said, "Where'd you come from?"
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"I came from the Earth."
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Well, they're having a
meeting somewhere in heaven.
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They're not on Earth.
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So, yeah, God has
unfallen creatures.
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Did the devil tempt them?
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Yeah, I think everyone had an
opportunity to listen to Satan's
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protests against God.
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And the devil made his case
and tried to tempt them, but the
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only world that fell is our
world, and it's like the parable
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where Jesus said a man had 100
sheep, and they're all safe in
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the fold, but he left the fold
to look for that one lost sheep.
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That's our world.
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That's us.
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And so Christ came down,
become one of us to save us.
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Jean: You know, we got a
study guide that talks about the
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origin of evil.
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Where did the devil come from?
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It doesn't directly talk about,
I think, the other intelligent
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beings, but it does talk
about the angels that had
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an opportunity to
choose who they would obey.
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It's called, "Did
God Create a Devil?
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The Origin of Evil."
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And for those of you who have
never received that study guide,
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if you want to call, we'll
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Doug: You know, I was just also
thinking, I've got a YouTube.
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If anyone just goes to
YouTube, "Is There Life on
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Unfallen Worlds?"
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or "Did God
Create Other Worlds?"
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And there's a whole bunch
of scriptures we give on that.
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Jean: All
right. Andi in Georgia.
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Andi, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Andi: Hello. Hi, pastors.
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Doug: Hi, how are you doing?
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Andi: Well, my question is, why
do men always get, like, all the
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glory for all the important
stuff they do, but why not women
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in the Bible?
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Doug: You are correct that the
Bible is mostly what you call
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patriarchal, and that
things go through the fathers.
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It often tells about the birth
of the sons, but not always
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the daughters.
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But you do have people like
Ruth, who's a hero, and Esther
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who's a hero, and Sarah and
Rahab and so there are women.
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Jean: And then, of course,
in the New Testament, you get to
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Mary, who is a hero
in the Bibl, you have--
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Doug: She's the first one
to see the resurrected Jesus.
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Jean: Yeah, Mary Magdalene.
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You've got Mary the
mother of Jesus, yup.
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And then you've got Elizabeth,
which is the mother of John
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the Baptist.
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So, yes, women are spoken
of quite a bit in the Bible,
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although, you know, women
weren't going into battle in the
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Old Testament.
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Although they did--you have
Miriam, the sister of Moses,
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so even all the way back there--
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Doug: Yeah, she
saved her brothers.
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Jean: That's right.
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Doug: Good question.
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Thank you, Andi.
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Jean: All right,
we've got Steve in Oregon.
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Steve, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Steve: Hello,
can you hear me okay?
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Doug: We do, loud and clear.
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Steve: All right, thank you.
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First, I wanted to ask if you
ever had the opportunity to meet
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Fred Cornforth up
here in the Northwest?
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Doug: You know, that
name sounds very familiar.
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And so there's a possibility I
have, but, yeah, as I get older,
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my name files
start to get fuzzy.
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Steve: Well, he was a true
messenger of the gospel in the
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Pacific Northwest here, so.
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Doug: I probably met him because
I've been traveling North
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America for 40 years and I
did some camp meetings up there,
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so I think I probably did.
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Steve: My question is that
Revelation 14:20, the end of the
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chapter, "And the winepress was
trampled outside the city, and
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the blood came up out of
the winepress up to the horses'
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bridles, for one
thousand six hundred furlongs."
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And my question
is why 1600 furlongs?
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Why not 7 furlongs or
144 furlongs or 40 furlongs?
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There's so many numbers that
are so prevalent in the Bible.
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Doug: Right, well, and 16
is also a number that is one of
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the numbers that is
divisible in the Bible.
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You can read about in Isaiah,
it says, "I've trodden the
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winepress alone, and the
peoples, and no one was with me,
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for I've trodden them in my
anger, and I trampled them in
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my fury."
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That's Isaiah 63:3.
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So, Revelation, when you
read about it, is referencing
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something in the
Old Testament prophets.
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Pastor Ross, you got
any thoughts on that?
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Jean: Yeah, maybe just it
represents complete destruction
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of the wicked if you read
through the whole passage.
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It's talking about the wicked
finally being destroyed at the
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end of the 1000 years.
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It talks about
them being destroyed.
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The winepress is trodden outside
the city, that is the new
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Jerusalem, and they mount their
attack upon the New Jerusalem.
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Of course, fire comes
down and devours them.
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So this is very symbolic.
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The 1600 furlongs, people have
wondered what that could be and
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it is interesting,
the actual number there.
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Someone suggested there is a
reference in the apocryphal book
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of Enoch, it's not in the
Bible, but it's a book where it
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describes the slaughter of the
wicked and describes their blood
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as being a river.
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And it would go all the way up
to the bridle of the horse and
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even covering the
chariot behind the horse.
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So it's just this very symbolic
picture of complete destruction
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of the wicked.
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The wicked shall
be no more after this.
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Doug: And it tells us that the
city of God has 4 sides and it's
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4 square and 4
+ 4 + 4 + 4 is 16.
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So they're surrounding
the city of God, yeah.
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Jean: Oh, that's good.
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All right, well,
thank you, Steve.
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Great question.
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We've got Giovanni in Idaho.
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Giovanni,
welcome to the program.
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Giovanni: Hi,
good evening pastors.
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How are you?
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Doug: Doing well,
thank you for calling.
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Giovanni: Excellent.
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All right, my question is, in
Matthew chapter 2, verse 16, in
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the New King James Version, it
says Herod put to death all the
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male children, but in the King
James Version, it says he put to
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death "all" the children, and
to me that seems to be kind of
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a significant difference, and I
was just wondering which one is
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more accurate.
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Doug: Well, I'd say the King--
the New King James is more
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accurate, and I think
what they're doing is there are
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different words that are used
for children in Greek, and you
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can have, you got--you got niņo
in Spanish, and that would be
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a boy.
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Niņa would be a little girl.
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And so, I think in the
Greek this might be in some
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manuscripts a--it's the
masculine which would make sense
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because they're looking for
a coming king and it was a male
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and the Jews did not have any
female kings or queens that were
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ordained and so Herod thought
let's kill all the male children
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like the king of Egypt who
killed all the male children
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that were born or tried to
throw them all in the river.
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Jean: All right, thank you.
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We've got Cami in California.
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Cami, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Cami: Good evening, Pastors.
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Thank you for taking my
phone call this evening.
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Doug: We're glad you called.
And your question tonight?
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Cami: My question is dealing
with 1 Samuel chapter 16 and
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verse 14.
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Could you please
shed light on that or--
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Doug: Yeah, let me read it for
our friends that are listening.
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It says, "But the Spirit of
the Lord departed from Saul, and
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a distressing spirit
from the Lord troubled him."
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And you would think--you might
be wondering, why would God take
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away his Spirit and send a
diabolical or an evil spirit?
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You know what it
says just before that.
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It says that "the Spirit of the
Lord," if you look in verse 13,
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"Samuel took his horn of oil and
anointed him," David, "in the
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midst of his brothers; and
the Spirit of the Lord came upon
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David from that day forward."
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And you never hear where God
took the Spirit away from David.
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In fact, David prays in Psalm
51, "Take not thy Spirit from
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me," as it was taken from
him before him, he's implying.
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But Saul kept rejecting God.
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And when he drove away the
Spirit of God, God's Spirit is
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light and good.
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And when you reject light
and good, what happens when
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light goes out?
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Automatically darkness comes in.
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So it wasn't that God said,
"Okay, all the devils come on,
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take over Saul."
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When God was driven away, the
natural occurrence is for the
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evil and darkness to come in.
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Jean: All
right. Thank you, Cami.
00:22:22.67\00:22:25.01
Well, we've got
Julie in California.
00:22:25.04\00:22:26.68
Julie, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:22:26.71\00:22:29.71
Julie: Hi, Pastors, and
thank you for taking my call.
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My question is
Isaiah 19:18 through 25.
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I'm just wondering, is
this passage prophetic?
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I mean, it talks about then the
Lord will be known to Egypt in
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that day and all this.
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And in verse 25, it says,
"Blessed is Egypt, my people."
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So I thought--I always
understood that Egypt was cursed
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and that it was a symbol for
sin, you know, like in Exodus 20
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where God says, "I brought
you out of the land of Egypt."
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In other words, "I
saved you from your sin.
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So now that I've saved you
from your sin, please do these
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things," okay, so I'm just
curious about this passage.
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Doug: Yeah, well,
it's a great prophecy.
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I think it's
talking about the future.
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Egypt has sort of a
mixed history with Israel.
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Keep in mind that Abraham
married an Egyptian named Hagar,
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that when there was a famine
they always went to Egypt, that
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it was in Egypt,
Israel grew to a great nation.
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Now one of the kings came
along, you know, God blessed
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Joseph in Egypt.
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He became great in Egypt.
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An evil king came along
and then oppressed them.
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But, first one that Solomon
married was a daughter of Egypt.
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So there's an
interesting relationship.
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Typically,
Egypt means the world.
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God said, "Don't go back to
Egypt for horses," and there
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was, you know, king of Egypt
killed Josiah, one of the great
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kings of Israel.
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So there was, like, an
off and on relationship.
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This is a prophecy saying the
day will come when those who had
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been their enemies are going to
embrace the Lord and that even a
00:24:04.67\00:24:08.81
place like Egypt,
they'd be calling on God.
00:24:08.84\00:24:11.95
That partially happened
with the Jews in Alexandria.
00:24:11.98\00:24:14.58
There was a great Jewish
settlement there, but I think
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the biggest fulfillment of this
is in the future when the world,
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the whole earth is full of the
knowledge of God, even Egypt.
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Jean: Okay, next caller
that we have is Bob in Kentucky.
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Bob, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:24:28.30\00:24:31.87
Bob: Hi, good
evening, gentlemen.
00:24:31.90\00:24:33.84
My question this evening
is, who did Jacob wrestle with
00:24:33.87\00:24:38.64
in Genesis?
00:24:38.67\00:24:39.97
I've heard different theories,
and my pastor even mentioned
00:24:40.01\00:24:42.94
that it might have
been the Lord Jesus.
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I don't know if they say it
was God and--or an angel of God.
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Doug: Yeah, it's
an interesting story.
00:24:51.29\00:24:53.25
So it says a man appeared and
he's wrestling with this man.
00:24:53.29\00:24:56.96
Later, he realizes it's
a supernatural being 'cause
00:24:56.99\00:25:00.43
he touches him
and says, "Let me go."
00:25:00.46\00:25:01.66
And Jacob says, "I'm not going
to let you go unless you bless
00:25:01.70\00:25:04.80
me," because he
thought, "This is the Lord."
00:25:04.83\00:25:07.87
And then later Jacob
says, "For I have seen God."
00:25:07.90\00:25:11.04
Well, no man has seen
the Father, but Christ often
00:25:11.07\00:25:13.41
appeared to the patriarchs, and
so this would be a Christophany
00:25:13.44\00:25:16.68
where Jesus saw Christ
before His incarnation.
00:25:16.71\00:25:20.35
And so many believe this
was the pre-incarnate Christ.
00:25:20.38\00:25:25.29
Jean: And you have Jacob here
representing this wrestling,
00:25:25.32\00:25:28.59
representing the people of God.
00:25:28.62\00:25:30.19
You go back a little bit in the
history of Jacob, when he was
00:25:30.23\00:25:33.70
fleeing from his home, and
he prayed and there was a ladder
00:25:33.73\00:25:36.77
that he saw in the
dream representing Christ.
00:25:36.80\00:25:40.04
And the promise was, Lord, if
You bring me back here in peace.
00:25:40.07\00:25:42.70
And so during this time of
wrestling, he's claiming those
00:25:42.74\00:25:45.54
promise, claiming the promise
that God had forgiven him, that
00:25:45.57\00:25:48.04
God had accepted him.
00:25:48.08\00:25:49.38
His faith was tested.
00:25:49.41\00:25:50.71
Esau was coming with
an army to destroy him.
00:25:50.75\00:25:53.48
Similar to the experience of
God's people at the end of time,
00:25:53.52\00:25:55.58
where they will have to claim
the promises of God and hold on
00:25:55.62\00:25:58.12
to Him by faith.
00:25:58.15\00:25:59.95
Doug: Amen.
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Jean: I'm looking at
the clock, Pastor Doug.
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I don't think we have
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female: We grew up Catholic.
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I went to Catholic
school for 9 years.
00:26:52.71\00:26:54.78
A group of my friends and I
would go to church every Sunday.
00:26:54.81\00:26:59.15
I think as a young child I had
a closer relationship with God
00:26:59.18\00:27:03.42
than I did as a young adult.
00:27:03.45\00:27:05.29
I never really
forgot Him, but I did.
00:27:05.32\00:27:08.96
From high school, I went to
college and then after college I
00:27:08.99\00:27:13.66
went into the dance
world and became a dancer.
00:27:13.70\00:27:18.47
Got married late in my
life, but at the right time.
00:27:18.50\00:27:22.60
He also grew up as a Catholic.
00:27:22.64\00:27:24.84
My husband worked as a software
salesperson in New York City.
00:27:24.87\00:27:29.44
We woke up early that morning of
9/11 and I said to him, I said,
00:27:29.48\00:27:33.35
"Why are you not
going to the city today?"
00:27:33.38\00:27:34.82
He says, "Look at
this day, it's beautiful."
00:27:34.85\00:27:36.82
He says, "I really want to spend
the day with you and the girls."
00:27:36.85\00:27:40.56
Just as that first plane hit the
towers, he dropped to his knees
00:27:40.59\00:27:44.76
and he said, "Thank God, because
I was supposed to be up in the
00:27:44.79\00:27:50.77
second building today."
00:27:50.80\00:27:52.63
So we changed our lives.
00:27:52.67\00:27:54.44
We found our place in the
mountains in West Virginia.
00:27:54.47\00:27:58.61
My eldest child was born
on Christmas Day, so that was
00:27:58.64\00:28:01.51
always very special until
Christmas Day 2 years ago, my
00:28:01.54\00:28:06.51
husband died on
our kitchen floor.
00:28:06.55\00:28:08.65
My youngest child and I worked
for about an hour, doing CPR,
00:28:08.68\00:28:14.66
but living so remotely as where
we live, there was 8 inches of
00:28:14.69\00:28:18.79
snow on the ground.
00:28:18.83\00:28:20.16
The emergency
vehicles could not get to us.
00:28:20.20\00:28:22.63
We lost him that day.
00:28:22.66\00:28:27.80
Ten days after my husband
died, the gray water system was
00:28:27.84\00:28:32.41
pouring out
underneath the house.
00:28:32.44\00:28:33.94
I called the plumber up and
I asked him if he remembered my
00:28:33.98\00:28:37.58
husband, and he says, "Oh, I
do remember speaking with him."
00:28:37.61\00:28:40.48
I said, "Well, he
passed away on Christmas Day."
00:28:40.52\00:28:43.22
And he says,
"I'll be over tonight."
00:28:43.25\00:28:45.22
The whole underneath
the house was replaced.
00:28:45.25\00:28:47.89
Said, "How much do
I owe you for today?"
00:28:47.92\00:28:49.66
He says, "Let me think.
00:28:49.69\00:28:53.26
Nothing."
00:28:53.29\00:28:54.56
And I just hugged him and he
says--he says, "How would you
00:28:54.60\00:28:58.07
like to come to
church on Saturday?"
00:28:58.10\00:29:00.20
And I said, "Saturday?"
00:29:00.24\00:29:02.10
We ended up going to church
on Saturday and his wife gave us
00:29:02.14\00:29:06.01
the Amazing Facts Bible Studies,
and we couldn't get enough
00:29:06.04\00:29:09.74
of it.
00:29:09.78\00:29:11.21
When the girls and I heard the
story of Doug Batchelor and "The
00:29:11.25\00:29:14.95
Richest Caveman," his story
inspired all of us that, you
00:29:14.98\00:29:18.99
know, you can walk with
God and talk with God and have
00:29:19.02\00:29:23.06
a personal
relationship with Him.
00:29:23.09\00:29:25.36
The girls and I had decided
that we were all going to get
00:29:25.39\00:29:27.56
baptized together.
00:29:27.60\00:29:29.20
That was a beautiful moment
that I wish their dad was there
00:29:29.23\00:29:32.63
because I think he would be
really proud that they chose to
00:29:32.67\00:29:35.90
give their hearts
to Jesus that day.
00:29:35.94\00:29:38.91
I want to say thank you to
Pastor Doug for all the facts
00:29:38.94\00:29:44.18
that he shares
and his knowledge.
00:29:44.21\00:29:47.42
It has helped all of
us grow closer to God.
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Doug: Welcome back,
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My name is Doug Batchelor.
00:31:14.04\00:31:15.84
Jean: My name is Jean Ross,
and we've got Simon standing by,
00:31:15.87\00:31:19.14
listening in Louisiana.
00:31:19.17\00:31:20.48
Simon, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:31:20.51\00:31:22.88
Simon: Hey, nice
to meet you guys.
00:31:22.91\00:31:24.81
Doug: Thank you.
00:31:24.85\00:31:26.15
Simon: My question is from
1 Peter chapter 3, verse 18
00:31:26.18\00:31:29.82
and 19.
00:31:29.85\00:31:31.95
Sorry, verse 19 and 20.
00:31:31.99\00:31:34.22
The question is, who are the
souls that Jesus preached to?
00:31:34.26\00:31:38.86
Doug: Well, now keep in mind,
some people think that means
00:31:38.89\00:31:40.96
that Jesus, when He's on the
cross, didn't really die, but
00:31:41.00\00:31:44.43
that He entered another realm
of limbo or purgatory, where He
00:31:44.47\00:31:48.74
preached to people who died
during the flood, to give them
00:31:48.77\00:31:51.77
another chance.
00:31:51.81\00:31:53.17
This is not at all what
this verse is talking about.
00:31:53.21\00:31:55.21
You have to back up
and read a little bit.
00:31:55.24\00:31:57.58
Verse 18.
00:31:57.61\00:31:58.95
Let me read it.
00:31:58.98\00:32:00.35
This is, by the
way, 1 Peter 3:18.
00:32:00.38\00:32:02.18
"For Christ also suffered
once for sins, the just for the
00:32:02.22\00:32:04.92
unjust, that He might bring
us to God, being put to death in
00:32:04.95\00:32:08.62
the flesh but made alive
by the Spirit," capital S.
00:32:08.66\00:32:12.49
By whom? The Spirit.
00:32:12.53\00:32:14.83
He went and preached to the
spirits in prison, so Christ
00:32:14.83\00:32:17.33
through the Spirit preached
to the spirits in prison, who
00:32:17.37\00:32:21.24
were disobedient.
00:32:21.27\00:32:22.90
When did this happen?
00:32:22.94\00:32:24.41
"When the divine longsuffering
waited in the days of Noah."
00:32:24.44\00:32:27.88
God's longsuffering, the
Spirit preaching, days of Noah.
00:32:27.91\00:32:31.71
Peter is referring to Genesis
6, verse 3, where God says,
00:32:31.75\00:32:37.15
"My Spirit will not
always strive with man.
00:32:37.19\00:32:38.89
His days will be 120 years."
00:32:38.92\00:32:41.26
Through that same Spirit that
raised Christ from the dead,
00:32:41.29\00:32:44.63
God spoke to the
people imprisoned by sin.
00:32:44.66\00:32:48.00
Spirits imprisoned by sin.
00:32:48.03\00:32:49.36
It's not talking
about ghosts in prison.
00:32:49.40\00:32:51.17
It's talking about people
imprisoned by sin back in the
00:32:51.20\00:32:53.64
days of Noah when He
was longsuffering with them.
00:32:53.67\00:32:56.67
It's not Jesus going down to
Hades somewhere and preaching.
00:32:56.71\00:33:00.31
Jean: All right.
Thank you, Simon.
00:33:00.34\00:33:03.01
We've got Nathan in Canada.
00:33:03.04\00:33:05.11
Nathan, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:33:05.15\00:33:07.72
Nathan: Good
evening, Pastor Doug.
00:33:07.75\00:33:10.05
I love your content.
00:33:10.09\00:33:11.39
I've been listening
to you for many years.
00:33:11.42\00:33:14.66
Doug: Thank you, Nathan.
00:33:14.69\00:33:15.99
We're glad you called.
00:33:16.02\00:33:17.36
Nathan: I have a question.
00:33:17.39\00:33:18.69
Past few years I've been,
just to put it short, I've been
00:33:18.73\00:33:21.80
struggling with laziness
and just feeling depressed.
00:33:21.83\00:33:26.13
I mean, I used to be like very
faithful and believing, I used
00:33:26.17\00:33:30.37
to believe in God, but, you
know, recently, maybe since I
00:33:30.41\00:33:35.28
went to university, I've
been really doubting that.
00:33:35.31\00:33:40.12
It crippled my productivity,
like being able to work and
00:33:40.15\00:33:45.32
enjoy what I do, has
just been like crushed.
00:33:45.35\00:33:49.02
I missed out on some
opportunities in my university.
00:33:49.06\00:33:54.40
It, you know, I've
just been managing.
00:33:54.46\00:33:58.47
I didn't--I haven't really
had any aspiration or any, like,
00:33:58.50\00:34:03.57
grand meaning, you know.
00:34:03.61\00:34:06.41
It's just something that,
you know, it made me depressed
00:34:06.44\00:34:09.58
and lazy.
00:34:09.61\00:34:11.51
I feel optimistic and I
want to return back to that.
00:34:11.55\00:34:15.68
I just don't know with doubt,
having to do with doubt, the
00:34:15.72\00:34:18.39
depression that hangs down.
00:34:18.42\00:34:21.36
Doug: Well, let me
give you a few thoughts.
00:34:21.39\00:34:24.43
First of all, some depression
can be caused by things
00:34:24.46\00:34:27.66
physiological or chemical.
00:34:27.73\00:34:30.30
You can be sleepy and it can
bring on depression, if you're
00:34:30.33\00:34:32.87
not getting enough rest.
00:34:32.90\00:34:34.87
You can have some chemical
imbalance or in the diet that
00:34:34.90\00:34:38.74
can bring on depression.
00:34:38.77\00:34:40.31
Some people, if they have a lot
of sugar in their diet, the high
00:34:40.34\00:34:43.31
from the sugar then
brings on a low later.
00:34:43.35\00:34:46.08
So it could be physiological.
00:34:46.11\00:34:47.88
It could be a spiritual battle.
00:34:47.92\00:34:49.22
Now, the devil will
take advantage of our
00:34:49.25\00:34:52.02
physical weakness.
00:34:52.05\00:34:53.39
That's when he came to
tempt Christ when He was hungry.
00:34:53.42\00:34:55.62
So if you already have some
physical problem, the devil will
00:34:55.66\00:34:57.99
try and make the most of
it, and it can be--compound
00:34:58.03\00:35:00.56
your depression.
00:35:00.60\00:35:01.90
"Faith comes by hearing and
hearing by the Word of God."
00:35:01.93\00:35:05.07
The more you hear the Word of
God, a little hearing, a little
00:35:05.10\00:35:08.10
faith, more hearing, more faith.
00:35:08.14\00:35:10.54
God's Word is encouraging.
00:35:10.57\00:35:12.67
The Bible says in Romans chapter
5, "When we had no strength,
00:35:12.71\00:35:16.75
Christ died for us."
00:35:16.78\00:35:18.38
And so remember that He
died for you when you're weak.
00:35:18.41\00:35:21.62
He says, "Take
My yoke upon you."
00:35:21.65\00:35:24.12
Surrender to Jesus.
00:35:24.15\00:35:25.45
Believe that He died for you,
that He came to you, that He
00:35:25.49\00:35:28.59
wants you to be saved.
00:35:28.62\00:35:29.92
He loves you desperately.
00:35:29.96\00:35:31.56
And the more you look at
Him, the more you'll love Him.
00:35:31.59\00:35:34.10
The more you love Him, the
more excited you'll be about
00:35:34.13\00:35:36.50
serving Him.
00:35:36.53\00:35:37.87
And that's the greatest
motivation in life, whether
00:35:37.90\00:35:40.30
you're doing it at
work or full-time ministry.
00:35:40.34\00:35:43.41
When you fall in love with the
Lord, you got a bright future
00:35:43.44\00:35:46.31
and you're going to be wanting
to share that with others.
00:35:46.34\00:35:48.74
Jean: Absolutely, and of course,
it's always good to share
00:35:48.78\00:35:51.25
your faith.
00:35:51.28\00:35:52.58
That kind of helps motivate
you and encourage you too.
00:35:52.61\00:35:54.35
Doug: Now, we have a book
called, "When the Brook Dries
00:35:54.38\00:35:56.35
Up," that deals
with discouragement.
00:35:56.38\00:35:58.52
We'll send you a free copy.
00:35:58.55\00:36:00.32
Jean: The number to call
for that is 800-835-6747.
00:36:00.36\00:36:03.89
You can ask for the book,
it's called, "When the Brook
00:36:03.93\00:36:06.29
Dries Up."
00:36:06.33\00:36:07.66
Again, that's 800-835-6747.
00:36:07.66\00:36:10.50
You can also dial #250 on your
smartphone and just ask for it
00:36:10.53\00:36:14.07
by name.
00:36:14.10\00:36:15.44
Robert in Nevada.
00:36:15.47\00:36:16.77
Robert, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:36:16.81\00:36:18.21
Robert: Thank you.
00:36:18.24\00:36:19.54
Hello, Dr--Pastor
Doug, Pastor Ross.
00:36:19.57\00:36:22.91
Doug: Thank you.
00:36:22.94\00:36:24.28
My question is this, I have
heard that during the days of
00:36:24.31\00:36:28.42
Jesus, that wine could
be dehydrated when they went
00:36:28.45\00:36:32.65
on trips.
00:36:32.69\00:36:33.99
And I wonder if that somehow
would explain the miracle of
00:36:34.02\00:36:38.76
Jesus turning the water
into wine at the wedding feast,
00:36:38.79\00:36:43.23
that's in the Bible.
00:36:43.26\00:36:44.50
Doug: That what they did, yeah,
when they filled those cisterns
00:36:44.53\00:36:47.10
with water, it had dehydrated
wine in them, kind of like
00:36:47.14\00:36:50.81
Kool-Aid at the bottom,
and then it turned into wine.
00:36:50.84\00:36:53.27
Is that kind of the idea?
00:36:53.31\00:36:55.74
Robert: Yes, yes, yes.
00:36:55.78\00:36:57.11
Doug: Yeah, no, it's pretty
clear from the text that they
00:36:57.15\00:37:00.48
were out of wine, dehydrated
or otherwise, but it wasn't
00:37:00.52\00:37:04.45
fully dehydrated.
00:37:04.49\00:37:05.82
It used to be a syrup, actually.
00:37:05.85\00:37:07.16
It wasn't like freeze-dried.
00:37:07.19\00:37:08.62
And--but no,
they were out of wine.
00:37:08.66\00:37:11.26
He told the servants, "Fill the
pitchers with water," and all
00:37:11.29\00:37:13.43
the servants knew there
was nothing in those pitchers
00:37:13.46\00:37:15.60
but water.
00:37:15.63\00:37:17.00
And He said, "Now pour it out."
00:37:17.03\00:37:18.33
And it wasn't only wine.
00:37:18.37\00:37:19.67
He didn't say, "Oh, this
is made from concentrate.
00:37:19.70\00:37:21.17
It's no good."
00:37:21.20\00:37:22.57
The head of the feast
said, "This is the best wine.
00:37:22.60\00:37:25.71
Where'd you get fresh wine?"
00:37:25.74\00:37:27.31
They could taste that it was
fresh wine, and it wasn't the
00:37:27.34\00:37:31.15
wine season.
00:37:31.18\00:37:32.51
So, it was a miracle.
00:37:32.55\00:37:34.58
Matter of fact, John says
this was the first miracle.
00:37:34.62\00:37:36.95
If Jesus had only added water to
dehydrated grape juice, then it
00:37:36.99\00:37:42.29
wouldn't have
been called a miracle.
00:37:42.32\00:37:43.66
It would have been
mixing concentrate.
00:37:43.69\00:37:45.99
Jean: Yeah, the Bible also says
that the sticks--the six stone
00:37:46.03\00:37:49.03
water jugs that Jesus used,
that were used for purifying of
00:37:49.06\00:37:52.63
the Jews.
00:37:52.67\00:37:53.90
So those jugs weren't used for
wine, they were actually used
00:37:53.94\00:37:57.64
for water and purification of
cooking utensils and the like.
00:37:57.67\00:38:01.78
So it was profound.
00:38:01.81\00:38:04.05
And that's probably why the
governor of the feast said that.
00:38:04.08\00:38:06.01
He said, "You
kept the best to last."
00:38:06.05\00:38:07.78
So probably up to that point,
they had some sort of dehydrated
00:38:07.82\00:38:11.85
kind of syrupy stuff.
00:38:11.89\00:38:13.22
But then, wow, the grape juice
that Jesus made was so fresh.
00:38:13.25\00:38:16.99
They were amazed,
"Where did you get this from?"
00:38:17.03\00:38:18.66
Doug: Yeah, it's interesting.
00:38:18.69\00:38:20.10
The first miracle of Jesus, He
turns water to wine and He gives
00:38:20.13\00:38:24.50
human--humanity at
a marriage fresh wine.
00:38:24.53\00:38:29.10
And of course, Christ, the first
thing He does is Adam and Eve,
00:38:29.14\00:38:31.37
He's at a marriage, right?
00:38:31.41\00:38:33.74
And then, the last thing Jesus
does, He tastes sour wine that
00:38:33.78\00:38:38.71
is given to Him on a
pole that we gave Him.
00:38:38.75\00:38:41.92
And so He gives us pure, we
give Him sour, He trades places
00:38:41.95\00:38:44.95
with us.
00:38:44.99\00:38:46.29
It's like a blood transfusion.
00:38:46.32\00:38:47.66
He takes our bad blood and
He gives us His pure blood.
00:38:47.69\00:38:49.72
So, the whole gospel's in
there and it was a miracle.
00:38:49.76\00:38:53.16
Jean: All right,
thank you, Robert.
00:38:53.19\00:38:54.46
Next caller that we
have is Aiden in Arizona.
00:38:54.50\00:38:57.33
Aiden, welcome to the program.
00:38:57.37\00:38:58.67
Aiden: Oh hello,
Pastors. Doug: Hi.
00:38:58.70\00:39:03.61
Aiden: Hello.
00:39:03.64\00:39:04.97
Hey, my question is in Galatians
chapter 4, verse number 6.
00:39:05.01\00:39:14.32
Verse 6, if you'd
like to read that.
00:39:14.35\00:39:16.02
Doug: Okay, "And because you
are sons, God has sent forth the
00:39:16.05\00:39:19.89
Spirit into His Son--in
your hearts, crying out,
00:39:19.92\00:39:22.96
'Abba, Father.'"
00:39:22.99\00:39:25.66
Would you like
me to explain that?
00:39:25.69\00:39:27.03
Aiden: Yeah, yeah, the spirit
of his sons into your hearts.
00:39:27.03\00:39:31.47
That's one of my questions.
00:39:31.50\00:39:34.64
Doug: Yeah, well, you
know, the--Christ sent the
00:39:34.67\00:39:38.24
Holy Spirit.
00:39:38.27\00:39:39.91
And the goodness of God
leads us to call out for God.
00:39:39.94\00:39:43.88
And it's a--He's talking about
a father-son love relationship.
00:39:43.91\00:39:48.58
Abba was a very simple form.
00:39:48.62\00:39:50.72
It's like Papa, and it's, you
know, God's--Jesus said, "When
00:39:50.75\00:39:54.79
you pray, say, 'Our Father.'"
00:39:54.82\00:39:57.03
That was profoundly intimate for
the Jews to say, "Our Father."
00:39:57.06\00:40:00.93
And that, Jesus is telling us
that the Father loves you, not
00:40:00.96\00:40:05.30
just the Son, but the Father so
loved the world He gave His Son.
00:40:05.33\00:40:09.14
And so it's here in this verse,
you've got the Father, the Son,
00:40:09.17\00:40:13.27
and the Spirit
all in that one verse.
00:40:13.31\00:40:15.48
Jean: Does that help, Aiden?
00:40:15.51\00:40:17.18
Aiden: Yeah, that does,
because this is a part of the
00:40:17.21\00:40:21.38
New Testament, right?
00:40:21.42\00:40:23.22
Doug: Yes, Galatians.
00:40:23.25\00:40:24.55
Aiden: Yes, yes, and so
that's what I was wondering,
00:40:24.59\00:40:28.32
yes, 'cause I was just wondering
there on the New Testament where
00:40:28.36\00:40:31.93
He said He would
write it in our hearts.
00:40:31.96\00:40:34.56
Doug: Yes, that's
part of the new covenant.
00:40:34.60\00:40:36.16
Aiden: Yeah, it's
part of the new covenant.
00:40:36.20\00:40:39.37
And so, yes, that's what I was
wondering what the Spirit of His
00:40:39.40\00:40:42.20
Son was, in our hearts.
00:40:42.24\00:40:44.31
Doug: Yeah, well, of course,
that's the Holy Spirit that
00:40:44.34\00:40:47.31
Jesus said.
00:40:47.34\00:40:48.68
He said, "I can't, you
know, I'll be with you in the
00:40:48.71\00:40:51.41
Holy Spirit.
00:40:51.45\00:40:52.75
Wherever you go, I'm with you."
00:40:52.78\00:40:54.35
And He's in you.
00:40:54.38\00:40:56.28
Jean: You know, I'm looking for
that book, Pastor Doug, "Why the
00:40:56.32\00:40:58.22
Old Covenant Failed."
00:40:58.25\00:40:59.59
And it actually talks about the
new covenant and explains how
00:40:59.62\00:41:02.89
God writes His law upon the
heart of those who love Him.
00:41:02.92\00:41:05.76
We'll be happy to send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:41:05.79\00:41:07.86
The number is 800-835-6747.
00:41:07.93\00:41:11.07
You can ask for the book.
00:41:11.10\00:41:12.40
It's called, "Why
the Old Covenant Failed."
00:41:12.43\00:41:14.10
And also dial #250 on your
smartphone, you can ask for it
00:41:14.14\00:41:17.77
that way as well.
00:41:17.81\00:41:19.51
Gerald in Michigan, Gerald,
welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
00:41:19.54\00:41:22.21
Gerald: Hey,
Pastor Ross, Pastor Doug.
00:41:22.24\00:41:25.68
Doug: Evening.
Gerald: Good evening.
00:41:25.71\00:41:28.38
Pastor Doug, I just want you
to know, I was in a bad way for
00:41:28.42\00:41:31.52
a long time and when I
was in prison, by accident,
00:41:31.55\00:41:36.32
I programmed 3 ABN into my TV
and "Amazing Facts" was on, and
00:41:36.36\00:41:41.76
I surrendered my life to the
Lord that night, and I just got
00:41:41.80\00:41:45.13
baptized yesterday.
00:41:45.17\00:41:46.50
So thank you for your program.
00:41:46.53\00:41:47.84
Doug: Amen, now
you said "by accident."
00:41:47.87\00:41:49.74
Do you really
believe it was an accident?
00:41:49.77\00:41:51.14
Gerald: Well, I say it was an
accident because I didn't know
00:41:51.17\00:41:55.38
that that
channel was there, but--
00:41:55.41\00:41:57.61
Doug: But God arranged that,
and I'm--praise God, we're just
00:41:57.65\00:42:00.58
rejoicing with you.
00:42:00.62\00:42:01.95
That's wonderful, Gerald.
00:42:01.98\00:42:03.28
Gerald: That's awesome.
00:42:03.32\00:42:04.69
Okay, it's been said that we--
everybody has a guardian angel.
00:42:04.72\00:42:11.16
I was wondering, when a person
dies, does that guardian angel
00:42:11.19\00:42:14.46
go to someone else, or is
it possible that they guard the
00:42:14.46\00:42:17.27
gravesite or wherever that
person dies until that person
00:42:17.30\00:42:20.77
raises with Jesus?
00:42:20.80\00:42:22.94
Doug: Let me tell
you an amazing fact.
00:42:22.97\00:42:25.47
Squirrels have an
incredible memory.
00:42:25.51\00:42:28.31
They bury nuts all
summer long, all fall.
00:42:28.34\00:42:32.85
They know where
every nut is buried.
00:42:32.88\00:42:35.82
How they do that, I
don't know, but they know.
00:42:35.85\00:42:37.85
Same thing with woodpeckers.
00:42:37.89\00:42:39.39
Angels mark the grave of
people they've cared for through
00:42:39.42\00:42:42.82
their lives.
00:42:42.86\00:42:44.19
I think angels are
ministering spirits.
00:42:44.23\00:42:45.59
They're busy.
00:42:45.63\00:42:46.96
They probably would get bored,
you know, sitting--an angel
00:42:47.00\00:42:49.03
standing 6000 years
by the grave of Abel.
00:42:49.06\00:42:52.07
They've marked the
place and they'll be there for
00:42:52.10\00:42:53.64
the Resurrection.
00:42:53.67\00:42:54.90
God may have them engaged doing
something else in the meantime,
00:42:54.94\00:42:57.07
but I'm sure they're--they
like activity as much as we do.
00:42:57.11\00:43:01.41
And they haven't forgotten the
spot where the nuts are buried.
00:43:01.44\00:43:05.48
So, you don't have to worry.
00:43:05.51\00:43:07.02
But do they take
on another person?
00:43:07.05\00:43:10.69
I don't know, we're
kind of delving into some
00:43:10.72\00:43:12.89
speculation there.
00:43:12.92\00:43:14.29
Do we have guardian angels?
00:43:14.32\00:43:15.66
I think the Bible supports
that 'cause it says that "their
00:43:15.69\00:43:18.53
angels do behold the face of
My Father and the angel of the
00:43:18.56\00:43:22.66
Lord," Psalm 91, "encamps
around those that fear Him."
00:43:22.70\00:43:25.67
So I do think we
have guardian angels.
00:43:25.70\00:43:28.87
Jean: All right, and of course,
if guardian angels standing
00:43:28.90\00:43:31.44
guarding the tomb, now, of
course, there were probably
00:43:31.47\00:43:33.38
angels guarding the tomb of
Christ when he was in the tomb,
00:43:33.41\00:43:36.58
but when a person dies in faith
and, you know, they are buried,
00:43:36.61\00:43:41.45
there's no real reason to
guard the body any longer.
00:43:41.48\00:43:43.99
Doug: What if they're cremated
and scattered in the ocean,
00:43:44.02\00:43:46.09
where they going to go?
00:43:46.12\00:43:47.49
Jean: God's going to create
with a new body, so, it's not
00:43:47.52\00:43:51.03
so important--
00:43:51.06\00:43:52.39
Doug: What will the angels do
if their ashes were scattered.
00:43:52.43\00:43:53.96
What would they
guard? The ocean?
00:43:54.00\00:43:55.36
Jean: That's right. And I
think they get reassigned.
00:43:55.40\00:43:57.90
I mean, there's a lot of
people in the world and so--
00:43:57.93\00:43:59.57
Doug: If I was an
angel, I'd want to be busy.
00:43:59.60\00:44:02.34
I always thought it'd be tough
to be like the guard of the
00:44:02.37\00:44:05.24
unknown soldier just march back
and forth, but they do a great
00:44:05.27\00:44:09.34
job in their drill.
00:44:09.38\00:44:11.61
Jean: All right,
Deanna in Illinois.
00:44:11.65\00:44:13.05
Deanna, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:44:13.08\00:44:14.82
Deanna: Good evening.
00:44:14.85\00:44:18.85
So my question is, what is
the biblical significance of the
00:44:18.89\00:44:23.66
number 7 and number 10 and
also multiples of number 7 as in
00:44:23.69\00:44:30.50
Daniel chapter 9,
the 70-week prophecy?
00:44:30.53\00:44:33.90
Doug: Yeah, yeah, well, the
7 is, there are meanings, most
00:44:33.94\00:44:38.11
scholars believe, to Bible
numbers, and I think I'll get
00:44:38.14\00:44:41.24
into it real quick,
but just before I forget.
00:44:41.28\00:44:43.91
We have a website, Bible
Prophecy Truth, and there's
00:44:43.95\00:44:46.51
a place here, it's got a
key on Bible numbers and their
00:44:46.55\00:44:49.15
meanings, if--I
think that's where it's at.
00:44:49.18\00:44:52.05
Seven is a number for a
complete cycle, a perfect cycle.
00:44:52.09\00:44:55.09
God made the week in--made the
world in seven days, and it's
00:44:55.12\00:44:59.13
a cycle.
00:44:59.16\00:45:00.53
You find in Revelation,
several cycles of history.
00:45:00.56\00:45:03.67
You get the seven churches,
seven trumpets, seven plagues.
00:45:03.70\00:45:06.84
You get the seven seals, seven
thunders, how many seven eyes.
00:45:06.87\00:45:12.14
You get seven spirits.
00:45:12.17\00:45:13.68
Come on, Pastor Ross,
I'm leaving half of them out.
00:45:13.71\00:45:15.98
Jean: There's a
lot of sevens, yes.
00:45:16.01\00:45:17.35
Doug: A lot of
sevens in Revelation.
00:45:17.38\00:45:18.88
But--and it's talking
about the perfection of God.
00:45:18.91\00:45:22.22
A 12 often represents the
church: 12 apostles, 12 tribes,
00:45:22.25\00:45:26.49
12 judges, 12 foundations in
the New Jerusalem with 12 gates
00:45:26.52\00:45:29.99
and 144,000.
00:45:30.03\00:45:32.26
The church is going to eat 12
kinds of fruit, 12 times a year.
00:45:32.29\00:45:35.86
Then you've got the
number ten is the law.
00:45:35.90\00:45:38.57
And, you know, you get the
ten lepers that were healed.
00:45:38.60\00:45:42.97
A woman has ten
coins, but she loses one.
00:45:43.00\00:45:46.07
Forty is a generation, usually,
in the Bible, a lot of forties.
00:45:46.11\00:45:50.58
So 3 is a--3 1/2 is a
like, 3 1/2 is usually a time of
00:45:50.61\00:45:54.58
apostasy so it's half of 7.
00:45:54.62\00:45:56.72
It's like it's interrupted.
00:45:56.75\00:45:58.19
Six is the number
of man in the Bible.
00:45:58.22\00:46:00.62
Jean: Five is often associated
with doctrinal teaching because
00:46:00.66\00:46:03.16
of the first five books.
00:46:03.19\00:46:04.93
So number two is the
old, the law and the prophets,
00:46:04.96\00:46:08.46
two witnesses.
00:46:08.50\00:46:09.80
So yeah, that's a great--that's
a great study, the numbers in
00:46:09.83\00:46:11.93
the Bible.
00:46:11.97\00:46:13.40
All right, Luther in Tennessee,
welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
00:46:13.44\00:46:17.07
Luther: Hey, well,
thanks for taking my call.
00:46:17.11\00:46:20.84
Who are the 24
elders in Revelations?
00:46:20.88\00:46:23.95
I'm a bit confused about that.
00:46:23.98\00:46:26.41
Doug: Yeah, it's interesting.
00:46:26.45\00:46:27.75
We just were
talking about numbers.
00:46:27.78\00:46:29.12
You said the 24 elders.
00:46:29.15\00:46:30.69
The key to understanding
Revelation is you look in the
00:46:30.72\00:46:34.96
Old Testament, and it's true
often in the reign of David and
00:46:34.99\00:46:38.76
Solomon that their leaders
were divided in 12s, 2 times 12
00:46:38.79\00:46:43.43
is 24.
00:46:43.47\00:46:44.87
And so, but who
are these 24 elders?
00:46:44.90\00:46:49.24
Some wondered if they were the
saints that were resurrected in
00:46:49.27\00:46:53.07
Matthew 28 with the resurrection
of Christ that ascended
00:46:53.11\00:46:56.48
to heaven.
00:46:56.51\00:46:57.85
I think it's more likely that
they are leaders of unfallen
00:46:57.88\00:47:00.75
worlds that they represent,
they might represent unfallen
00:47:00.78\00:47:05.39
districts of the universe,
I don't know, but you know, it
00:47:05.42\00:47:08.32
tells us there was a day when
the sons of God came to gather
00:47:08.36\00:47:10.73
with the Lord.
00:47:10.76\00:47:12.06
There's this
assembly around the Lord.
00:47:12.09\00:47:13.73
Adam was to be the
ruler of this world.
00:47:13.76\00:47:15.30
He was called the son of God.
00:47:15.33\00:47:17.60
And so it may be leaders of
unfallen realms that are around
00:47:17.63\00:47:24.54
the throne of God.
00:47:24.57\00:47:26.27
Jean: You know, we do have a
verse in Isaiah 24, verse 23,
00:47:26.31\00:47:29.08
that I think is used or
referenced in Revelation chapter
00:47:29.11\00:47:32.25
4, talking about the 24 elders.
00:47:32.28\00:47:34.35
It says: "Then the moon shall be
confounded, and the sun shall be
00:47:34.38\00:47:37.32
ashamed, when the Lord of
hosts shall reign in Mount Zion,
00:47:37.35\00:47:41.39
in Jerusalem, and before his
ancient or elders gloriously."
00:47:41.42\00:47:46.39
So here in the Old Testament,
we have a reference to the Lord
00:47:46.43\00:47:48.90
surrounded by the elders, and
Revelation gives us the numbers:
00:47:48.93\00:47:52.17
24 elders.
00:47:52.20\00:47:53.54
So, as Pastor Doug mentioned,
scholars believe, many scholars
00:47:53.57\00:47:56.71
believe that it could symbolize
those sons of God that you read
00:47:56.74\00:47:59.87
about in the book of Job
or the representatives of the
00:47:59.91\00:48:02.54
unfallen worlds.
00:48:02.58\00:48:05.18
All right, thank you, Luther.
00:48:05.21\00:48:06.51
We've got Phil
and Joan in Arizona.
00:48:06.55\00:48:08.48
Phil, Joan, welcome
to "Bible Answers Live."
00:48:08.52\00:48:11.49
Joan: Hi, thank you for your
Odyssey 2024 in New York and in
00:48:11.52\00:48:14.49
the '90s, I believe.
00:48:14.52\00:48:15.82
Thank you for
historical prophecies.
00:48:15.86\00:48:17.49
Enjoyed them both.
00:48:17.53\00:48:18.83
We're both--we're both baptized.
00:48:18.86\00:48:20.33
And my question is, why was
there an immediate punishment
00:48:20.36\00:48:25.93
where the wicked are stubble in
Malachi 4, and why in Revelation
00:48:25.97\00:48:30.71
comparing it to Revelation 20,
and they're in the lake of fire
00:48:30.74\00:48:34.68
for a short period of time.
00:48:34.71\00:48:36.54
There's a--why wouldn't they
just be eliminated quickly like
00:48:36.58\00:48:40.48
they were in
Malachi 4, the wicked?
00:48:40.52\00:48:42.05
Doug: Well, there's two
times the wicked are burned up.
00:48:42.08\00:48:45.15
I know it sounds kind of harsh,
but Malachi I think is talking
00:48:45.19\00:48:48.69
about when the Lord comes,
as you read in Thessalonians,
00:48:48.72\00:48:52.26
Pastor Ross will help me
find, 'cause I get 1 and 2
00:48:52.29\00:48:54.83
Thessalonians verses mixed up.
00:48:54.86\00:48:56.87
But where it says that the
wicked are destroyed by the
00:48:56.90\00:48:59.13
brightness of His coming.
00:48:59.17\00:49:01.04
When the day of the Lord comes,
you read in 2 Peter chapter 3,
00:49:01.07\00:49:05.24
"The Day of the Lord will
come as a thief in the night, in
00:49:05.27\00:49:07.38
which the heavens will pass
away with a great noise, and the
00:49:07.41\00:49:10.48
elements melt
with a fervent heat."
00:49:10.51\00:49:12.21
That's where it burns it
like stubble, burn up, and the
00:49:12.25\00:49:16.42
elements will burn up.
00:49:16.45\00:49:18.32
That's talking about
when Jesus first comes.
00:49:18.35\00:49:20.12
The judgment that you read about
in Revelation is after the 1000
00:49:20.16\00:49:23.63
years when the wicked are
then cast into the lake of fire.
00:49:23.66\00:49:26.26
They're punished according
to what they deserve, so they're
00:49:26.29\00:49:28.46
kind of two different fires.
00:49:28.50\00:49:30.03
Jean: The verse you're referring
to, 2 Thessalonians chapter 2,
00:49:30.07\00:49:32.30
verse 8.
00:49:32.33\00:49:33.67
It says: "Then that
wicked shall be revealed, and
00:49:33.70\00:49:35.00
the Lord shall consume with the
Spirit of His mouth and shall
00:49:35.04\00:49:37.17
destroy with the
brightness of His coming."
00:49:37.21\00:49:39.14
Doug: So it's the brilliance
of His coming is--and the Lord's
00:49:39.17\00:49:42.31
coming is a consuming
fire, the Bible tells us.
00:49:42.34\00:49:45.48
So when Jesus comes, the
righteous are resurrected or
00:49:45.51\00:49:48.65
caught up to meet the Lord.
00:49:48.68\00:49:50.52
The wicked are destroyed by
the brightness of His coming.
00:49:50.55\00:49:52.79
They'll be stubble at that time.
00:49:52.82\00:49:55.36
They're later resurrected and
judged according to their works,
00:49:55.39\00:49:58.06
and then they're cast
into the lake of fire, and
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that's separate.
00:50:00.03\00:50:01.63
Jean: Okay, next caller that
we have is Bear in California.
00:50:01.66\00:50:04.47
Bear, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:50:04.50\00:50:07.94
Bear: Good evening, my friends.
00:50:07.97\00:50:09.30
How are you tonight?
00:50:09.34\00:50:10.67
Doug: Good, I know another Bear.
00:50:10.71\00:50:12.01
There's not many out there.
00:50:12.04\00:50:13.61
How you doing?
00:50:13.64\00:50:14.94
Bear: Yeah, I know
we're far and few between.
00:50:14.98\00:50:17.61
My question is, I know
throughout the Bible, Jesus had
00:50:17.65\00:50:22.88
several names and when Mary was
told that she was going to have
00:50:22.92\00:50:28.52
a baby, to name Him Jesus.
00:50:28.56\00:50:31.83
Did Jesus have an official
name in the Old Testament?
00:50:31.86\00:50:37.30
Doug: Well, are you talking
about like when He appears to
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Abraham or--the only thing I
can think of is when God said,
00:50:40.17\00:50:46.57
you know, I am that I AM.
00:50:46.61\00:50:48.68
And then you've got that sacred
name of God that is Yahweh and
00:50:48.71\00:50:52.61
some people call it Jehovah.
00:50:52.65\00:50:55.28
It's we're not exactly
sure how to pronounce it,
00:50:55.32\00:50:57.39
the Tetragrammaton.
00:50:57.42\00:50:59.42
And, so there's a sacred
name of God, but even in the Old
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Testament there's a couple
of Joshuas and they are types
00:51:06.23\00:51:08.96
of Christ.
00:51:09.00\00:51:10.57
Joshua was a prophet and a
general that led them into the
00:51:10.60\00:51:13.50
Promised Land, and there was
a high priest named Joshua that
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led them from Babylon
back to the Promised Land.
00:51:16.57\00:51:19.47
Christ is our high priest,
our general, our prophet.
00:51:19.51\00:51:22.48
So in that sense, He's
also called the Son of David.
00:51:22.51\00:51:25.31
So He's got some symbolic
names, you know, He's called the
00:51:25.35\00:51:28.62
Almighty, the provider in
Mount Moriah, God will provide.
00:51:28.65\00:51:34.66
So, yeah, a number of names
in the Old Testament are used,
00:51:34.69\00:51:38.69
so I'm not sure if I'm
answering what you're asking.
00:51:38.73\00:51:41.20
Bear: Well, I've got a
flyer from you about Michael
00:51:41.23\00:51:45.03
the Archangel.
00:51:45.07\00:51:46.40
Doug: Oh, okay, yeah.
00:51:46.43\00:51:47.74
So, yeah, that's another name.
00:51:47.77\00:51:50.47
One of the names for Christ is
Michael, and that means who is
00:51:50.51\00:51:54.74
as God.
00:51:54.78\00:51:56.08
Now we're not saying, I always
got to clarify with people,
00:51:56.11\00:51:58.91
we do not believe
that Jesus is an angel.
00:51:58.95\00:52:00.72
He is eternal God.
00:52:00.75\00:52:03.12
But when He appeared in the
Old Testament, like when this
00:52:03.15\00:52:06.89
majestic warlike being, this
angel appears to Joshua, the
00:52:06.92\00:52:10.89
angel says, "Take your
shoes off, this is holy ground."
00:52:10.93\00:52:13.90
We're not
supposed to worship angels.
00:52:13.93\00:52:15.96
And it says, "The Lord Himself
will descend from heaven with
00:52:16.00\00:52:18.87
a shout and the
voice of the archangel."
00:52:18.90\00:52:21.97
Michael the Archangel is one of
the spiritual names for Jesus in
00:52:22.00\00:52:24.91
the Old Testament, and you
know that because it says in
00:52:24.94\00:52:27.84
Revelation 12 that "the dragon
and his angels," now the dragon
00:52:27.88\00:52:31.41
is a symbolic name for the
devil, "fought with Michael and
00:52:31.45\00:52:34.82
His angels."
00:52:34.85\00:52:36.15
Michael's a symbolic
name for the leader of good,
00:52:36.18\00:52:37.85
that's Jesus.
00:52:37.89\00:52:39.49
So yes, that is one
of the names, correct.
00:52:39.52\00:52:42.42
I wasn't sure if you were
looking for one of the Hebrew
00:52:42.46\00:52:44.86
other names.
00:52:44.89\00:52:46.23
Jean: You know, we have a book.
00:52:46.26\00:52:47.56
It's called, "The Name of God."
00:52:47.60\00:52:48.90
Doug: And we got one,
"Who is Michael the Archangel?"
00:52:48.93\00:52:50.23
Jean: That one
too, yeah, two books.
00:52:50.27\00:52:51.60
Doug: We'll send you two
for the price of nothing.
00:52:51.63\00:52:52.93
Jean: That's right.
00:52:52.97\00:52:54.30
The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:52:54.34\00:52:57.14
That is our resource phone line.
00:52:57.17\00:52:58.77
You can ask for the book, "The
Name of God," or "Michael the
00:52:58.81\00:53:01.84
Archangel," and we'll be happy
to send it to anyone who calls
00:53:01.88\00:53:04.25
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00:53:04.28\00:53:05.61
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00:53:05.65\00:53:08.52
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00:53:08.55\00:53:10.69
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00:53:10.72\00:53:12.62
Carl in Georgia.
00:53:12.65\00:53:13.96
Carl, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:53:13.99\00:53:16.32
Carl: Yeah, I got a
question on the feet washing.
00:53:16.36\00:53:20.53
I noticed many denominations
don't do it, yet when Jesus says
00:53:20.56\00:53:25.63
you ought to do
this, to me, that's a very
00:53:25.67\00:53:28.60
strong recommendation.
00:53:28.64\00:53:30.51
Is there a basis why more
denominations don't practice it?
00:53:30.54\00:53:36.18
Doug: Well, I agree with you
that they should, because the
00:53:36.21\00:53:38.58
command, He says, "If I wash
your feet, you ought to wash one
00:53:38.61\00:53:41.92
another's feet."
00:53:41.95\00:53:43.28
His command there is just as
explicit about the commandment
00:53:43.32\00:53:46.52
of "As often as I drink it--as
you eat and drink it, you do it
00:53:46.55\00:53:49.96
in remembrance of Me."
00:53:49.99\00:53:51.53
So, the
commandment's equally clear.
00:53:51.56\00:53:55.13
People in Bible times, they
used to, you know, walk around
00:53:55.16\00:53:59.00
barefoot on dirty
roads and their feet needed
00:53:59.03\00:54:01.07
regular washing.
00:54:01.10\00:54:02.44
You come to someone's
house, now you wash your hands
00:54:02.47\00:54:04.24
before you eat.
00:54:04.27\00:54:05.57
Back then they washed their feet
and their hands because their
00:54:05.61\00:54:07.28
feet often had to go on the same
roads as the animals, and it
00:54:07.31\00:54:10.28
didn't bring the
best smell into the house.
00:54:10.31\00:54:12.51
So some people say,
"Well, that was just a tradition
00:54:12.55\00:54:14.65
from the ages.
00:54:14.68\00:54:15.98
We don't need to
do that anymore."
00:54:16.02\00:54:18.22
But a lot of, you know,
biblically careful churches
00:54:18.25\00:54:22.52
still practice that.
00:54:22.56\00:54:23.86
Our church practices that.
00:54:23.89\00:54:25.23
I think it's interesting that
even in the Catholic Church,
00:54:25.26\00:54:27.40
I think once a year, the pope
washes someone's feet or a few
00:54:27.40\00:54:29.73
people's feet.
00:54:29.76\00:54:31.00
I don't know if he can do it now
he gets older, but that used to
00:54:31.03\00:54:34.20
be a tradition because
they recognize it's a command
00:54:34.24\00:54:36.94
in the Bible.
00:54:36.97\00:54:38.67
Not that the pope's our
best example for everything,
00:54:38.71\00:54:42.21
but anyway, so I know Primitive
Baptists still do and a number
00:54:42.24\00:54:44.75
of other churches.
00:54:44.78\00:54:46.61
Jean: Okay, next caller that
we have is Janelle in New York.
00:54:46.65\00:54:49.02
Janelle, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:54:49.05\00:54:50.69
Janelle: Hi, how are you?
00:54:50.72\00:54:52.92
Doug: Doing good.
00:54:52.95\00:54:54.26
We got about a minute
before we're out of time,
00:54:54.29\00:54:56.59
so your question?
00:54:56.62\00:54:57.96
Janelle: Yes, so, I had a
dream when I was younger, and
00:54:57.99\00:55:01.76
this dream I've seen Jesus
and He had a garment on, and it
00:55:01.80\00:55:07.80
had--the garment that He was
wearing was the garment that the
00:55:07.84\00:55:12.14
high priests wore in the Old
Testament, which is the Urim and
00:55:12.17\00:55:15.81
the Thummim, I think
I'm pronouncing it right.
00:55:15.84\00:55:18.65
So I see this verse and
it's Ezra chapter 2, verse 63.
00:55:18.68\00:55:26.05
And I want to know if this
refers to Jesus as the high
00:55:26.09\00:55:29.16
priest in heaven,
and what He's wearing.
00:55:29.19\00:55:32.23
Doug: All right, let me read
this for our friends listening.
00:55:32.26\00:55:34.83
"And the governor said to them
that they should not eat of the
00:55:34.83\00:55:37.63
most holy things till a priest
can consult with the Urim and
00:55:37.67\00:55:41.67
the Thummim.
00:55:41.70\00:55:43.00
Those were the two sacred
stones on the shoulder of the
00:55:43.04\00:55:45.24
high priest.
00:55:45.27\00:55:46.57
And when they were in doubt
about what to do, sometimes they
00:55:46.61\00:55:49.64
would pray and they'd look, and
it's, evidently, it's--there's
00:55:49.68\00:55:53.35
still some mystery about this,
Pastor Ross, but it seems like
00:55:53.38\00:55:56.22
one of the stones would glow.
00:55:56.25\00:55:58.89
And it was kind of like a yes
or a no answer that they'd get,
00:55:58.92\00:56:03.22
doing this.
00:56:03.26\00:56:04.56
I remember when one of the
priests fled from King Saul, he
00:56:04.59\00:56:08.86
took the ephod with him that had
the Urim and the Thummim, and
00:56:08.90\00:56:11.23
David would consult it
before he went into battle.
00:56:11.27\00:56:13.34
He had--Abiathar had that with
him, and it would guide them
00:56:13.37\00:56:17.07
about what to do.
00:56:17.11\00:56:18.41
Now they don't know if the
thing made a sound or hummed or
00:56:18.44\00:56:20.41
glowed, but somehow they'd ask a
question, and one meant yes and
00:56:20.44\00:56:23.18
one meant no and, yeah,
and Christ is, of course,
00:56:23.21\00:56:27.28
our high priest.
00:56:27.32\00:56:28.62
He's wearing the breastplate
in Revelation chapter 1, but I'm
00:56:28.65\00:56:31.12
not sure it says anything there
about the Urim and the Thummim.
00:56:31.15\00:56:34.36
So it's a symbol for
the high priest here.
00:56:34.39\00:56:36.39
Jean: Our next caller
is James in Minnesota.
00:56:36.42\00:56:38.53
James, we got about a minute.
00:56:38.56\00:56:40.26
You're on "Bible Answers Live."
00:56:40.30\00:56:41.60
James: Hello, Pastors.
00:56:41.63\00:56:42.93
This is for Pastor Jean Ross.
00:56:42.96\00:56:45.53
The Protestant reformers and
pioneers believed that the seven
00:56:45.57\00:56:49.37
heads of the Roman beast in
Revelation 17 were the seven
00:56:49.40\00:56:53.34
different forms of Roman
government: kings, consuls,
00:56:53.38\00:56:57.45
decemvirs, triumvirs, dictators,
emperors, and popes, which is
00:56:57.48\00:57:01.75
a unique element
of their kingdom.
00:57:01.78\00:57:03.92
I've heard your understanding
that the seven heads are seven
00:57:03.95\00:57:06.96
kingdoms that have
persecuted God's people.
00:57:06.99\00:57:10.39
But can you please show me what
other example you can give where
00:57:10.43\00:57:15.26
another kingdom has
other kingdoms as their head?
00:57:15.30\00:57:19.87
Shouldn't there be
another biblical example?
00:57:19.90\00:57:22.77
Jean: Yeah, let me
summarize that real quick.
00:57:22.80\00:57:25.41
The Bible does say that the
seven heads represent kingdoms,
00:57:25.44\00:57:28.74
seven kingdoms as well.
00:57:28.78\00:57:30.01
And the principal kingdoms that
persecuted the people of God, if
00:57:30.05\00:57:32.58
you go back just using the
prophetic books of Daniel and
00:57:32.61\00:57:34.85
Revelation, you go
back to the time of Babylon.
00:57:34.88\00:57:37.95
Babylon, even before that you
can go to Syria, but Babylon,
00:57:37.99\00:57:40.42
Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome,
and then the papal power for the
00:57:40.46\00:57:43.29
1260 years, and then there
is a revival of persecution just
00:57:43.32\00:57:47.50
before Jesus comes.
00:57:47.56\00:57:49.36
And so we don't have time to get
into all of those details, but
00:57:49.40\00:57:51.87
that's sort of a summary.
00:57:51.90\00:57:53.70
Doug: We got a
lesson on it at our website.
00:57:53.74\00:57:56.30
Hey, thanks for
listening, friends.
00:57:56.34\00:57:57.64
We're out of time.
00:57:57.67\00:57:59.01
God willing, we'll study
His Word together with you again
00:57:59.04\00:58:01.54
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