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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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Doug Batchelor: Hello, listening
friends, would you like to hear
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an amazing fact?
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Most Christians would admit that
they should pray more often and
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longer, but few have
prayed as consistently as the
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early Moravians.
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Following the martyr Jan
Hus, Moravian Christians are
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considered to be
the first Protestants.
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They got their name because
they fled from persecution
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in Moravia.
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Many settled on the estate of
a wealthy Christian count named
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Zinzendorf in Saxony.
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As their numbers grew, the
community at Herrnhut began to
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descend into various
fractions and bickering.
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Then on August 1727,
Count Zinzendorf suggested
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that they pray.
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This turned into an
all-night prayer vigil.
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The spirit of forgiveness
and revival was so promising,
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the group decided to
start a continuous prayer vigil.
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They designated a place in the
village, divided the week into
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168 one-hour time slots, and
they prayed in groups of two or
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three for one-hour increments.
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From then on, for 24 hours a
day, seven days a week, two to
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three people were always
praying in the place of prayer.
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What's more, this around
the clock prayer meeting went on
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uninterrupted for
over a hundred years.
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By 1791, 65 years after
the commencement of that prayer
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vigil, the small Moravian
community had sent out over 300
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missionaries to the
four corners of the earth.
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These were some of the
first Protestant missionaries.
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You know, Pastor Ross just
reminds me of the, the power of
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prayer and how we
need to pray more.
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And you wonder if Christians
today, generally speaking,
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understand what it means
when they sing "Sweet Hour
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of Prayer."
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How few people actually pray
an hour, and Jesus, it says he
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spent a whole night in prayer.
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And here these folks, they were
spending--they wanted someone in
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the community to
constantly be in prayer.
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Now you and I have been
at meetings where while we're
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preaching, there's someone
in the prayer room and they're
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praying the whole time, which
is comforting, and you sense it
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makes a difference.
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Jëan Ross: Well, you know, the
apostle Paul says, "We battle
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not against flesh and blood,
but against principalities and
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powers," and you know, prayer
is a powerful weapon against
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the forces of evil.
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And when we get involved,
especially in witnessing
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the evangelism and sharing our
faith, it must be done with much
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prayer, because the
devil doesn't like that.
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And so, a church that prays,
a family that prays together,
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a church that prays together, is
a church that is going to grow.
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Doug: Amen, yeah, and they
accomplished much in doing that.
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God seems to bless.
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The Lord does when we pray
what He otherwise might not do.
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It makes a difference.
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Now, folks might be asking
that question the disciples ask.
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You can read in Luke 11,
verse 1, says, "It came to pass,
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as Jesus was praying, when
he ceased, his disciples said to
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him, 'Lord, teach us to
pray, as John also taught his
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disciples--'" and when
they saw Jesus come from prayer,
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He looked energized and
invigorated, and He may have
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been glowing with God's glory.
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And they said,
"Wow, that's real prayer.
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We--maybe we're
not doing it right."
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And I think Spurgeon said, "I'd
rather teach ten pastors to pray
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rather than preach,
if they could just pray."
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And, friends, we'd like to offer
you a free book that talks about
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how we could know more about
what biblical prayer is and
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the power there.
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Jëan: Yes, the book is called
"Teach Us to Pray," and it's
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The number is 800-835-6747, you
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And you know, Pastor Doug, we
just want to encourage folks to
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take advantage
of this, it's free.
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In the book, you
actually give some guidelines,
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some principles.
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Sometimes people wonder, "Well,
when it comes to pray, where
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do I start?
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You know, how do I keep my mind
focused on the important things
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that I need to
be praying about?"
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So, a number of practical
principles are found in
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the book.
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It's called "Teach Us
to Pray," and it's free.
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Call and ask for it.
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Well, before we go to the phone
lines, it's probably good for us
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to do the very thing we're
talking about, and that is pray.
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So, why don't you join us as
we open with the word of prayer?
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Dear Father, we are so grateful
that we do have this opportunity
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to open up Your Word and study.
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Jesus said, "You shall
know the truth, and the truth
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will set you free."
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And so, thank you for the truth
of Your Word and bless those who
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are listening
wherever they might be.
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And guide us, Lord, into a clear
understanding of Bible truth
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today, for we ask us
in Jesus's name, amen.
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All right, ready to go to
the phone lines, and our first
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caller this evening
is Teresa from Canada.
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Teresa, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Teresa: Hello.
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Doug: Hi, thank you for calling.
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Teresa: I have a question.
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So, a few weeks ago, I was
listening on YouTube, just every
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night of old programs that
you have, and you had mentioned
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something about not calling
anyone on earth "father."
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So I was looking
it up in Matthew 23:9.
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And I know I--like, lots of
times I call my dad "Dad," but
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there's many times I
call him "Father" also.
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Should I not do that?
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Doug: No,
nothing wrong with that.
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If you read the context of what
Jesus is saying, He's speaking
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about in church relationships.
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And He starts out, for
instance, He's talking about the
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Pharisees, the
religious leaders.
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Chapter 23 begins with, "The
scribes and the Pharisees sit in
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Moses' seat."
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And then you can look a
little later, and he says, "You
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don't--but you are all not to be
called Rabbi, for you have one
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teacher, and
you're all brothers.
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And call no man your father
on earth." They used to call
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religious leaders "Father,"
and you can look in the Old
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Testament when Elijah goes to
heaven, his apprentice said, "My
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father, my father," and in
a sense, Elisha could say that
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more than others, because Elijah
kind of adopted Elisha in that
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he left his family.
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But, so it became a custom, they
were often calling religious
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leaders "Father," and, you know,
in some churches, they call
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the priest "Father."
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And Jesus is
saying, "Don't do that.
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You've got one Father in heaven.
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He is your spiritual Father."
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Nothing wrong with
calling your dad "Father."
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That's--you know,
He's not addressing that.
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He's talking about
church relationships here.
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Jëan: And, you know, great
emphasis was placed upon the
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council or the teachings of the
fathers, especially back in the
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time of Christ.
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The elders would often referred
to, "Well, the fathers said,"
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and they're talking to
patriarchs in the church, and
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they were considered to be
the final word when it came to
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finding truth or doctrine.
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While Jesus is saying the
One who you're to seek for final
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truth is your heavenly Father.
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Go to the Word of God, don't
go to some earthly person, think
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that they have the
final word on doctrine.
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Doug: Yeah, and even more than
that, if you read just what it
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says after it, He
talks about pride.
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They had titles, and they made
a big deal out of the titles.
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And He said, "Neither be called
instructors, for you have one
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instructor-" He said,
"The greatest among you will be
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His servant.
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Whoever exalts himself will be
humbled..." He's talking about
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wanting titles of
preeminence above others.
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It--nothing wrong with
calling your dad "Father."
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Jëan: Okay, thank you, Teresa.
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We've got Allen in California.
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Allen, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Allen: Good evening, gentlemen.
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I'm calling from Bakersfield.
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My question is--regards 2--or
1 Corinthians 15:52, and it's
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regarding the Rapture.
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It says, "In a moment, in the
twinkling of an eye, at the last
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trump; for the trumpet shall
sound, and the dead in Christ
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shall be raised incorruptible."
Now, "the last trump," now,
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unless President Trump has sons
that go into politics, he's the
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last Trump, so the
Rapture is in four years.
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Is that, is that accurate?
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Doug: No, I don't think so.
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I, you know, I never
thought to play it that way.
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I think it's talking about
the trumpet that will sound,
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the instrument.
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Jëan: Now, of course, if you
read it in the New King James,
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it says "trumpet," so
trump and trumpet, same thing.
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Doug: Yeah.
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When you say "Rapture" there,
it--of course, we're talking
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about when that we are caught up
to meet the Lord, and this is,
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this is also the same time
as the general resurrection.
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So you've got the Lord
descending, the living who are
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righteous are transformed,
and they get glorified bodies.
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The dead righteous, who are
asleep, they are raised, they
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are caught up to meet
the Lord in the air first.
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Then we are caught up to meet
them, because they're already
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with the Lord when we get there.
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So, yeah, it's talking about the
trumpet, and I think it says--it
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does use the word "trumpet" in
a couple places when it speaks
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about that event.
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Jëan: You know, we
have a study guide.
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It's called "Ultimate
Deliverance," and it's about
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the Second Coming of Christ.
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It gives you the
biblical principles.
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It also helps to
show certain signs.
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People are often wondering,
"Well, how soon is Jesus going
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to come?"
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Well, there are certain signs
that the Bible gives us, and
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that's also
outlined in the study guide.
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We'll send it
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The number to call
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You can ask for the
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Thank you, Allen.
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We've got Donna in Maryland.
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Donna, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Donna: Hello, pastors,
Pastor Doug, Pastor Ross.
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My question is: Why was
Judas replaced with Matthias?
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Does that hold any significance?
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I don't recall any other
disciple that was replaced.
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Doug: Well, there's a
difference, of course, between
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disciple and apostle.
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Jesus
specifically chose 12 apostles.
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And the number 12, of course,
is a, it's a number that God had
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used in the Old Testament for
the leadership of his people.
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And 12 is a number
that--you look, for instance, in
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Revelation chapter 12.
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The city where the
saints live is 12,000 furlongs.
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It's got 12 gates, 12
foundations, a tree that has 12
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kinds of fruit, 12 times
a year, so the number 12.
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And there's a woman that's
got 12 stars above her head in
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chapter 12, yeah.
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And so, you've
got the number 12.
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And I jumped there between
chapter 12 and chapter 21.
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You've got--the number just
constantly appears in the Bible
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as a number for the leadership
of God's people, the 12 tribes
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in the Old Testament.
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So even though ten of the tribes
had been carried off to Assyria,
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Christ still chose 12 apostles.
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When one of them died, they
wanted to fulfill that number,
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and so they said, "Well, you
know, we should do something to
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replace Judas."
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Now, it's interesting,
getting the number back to 12 is
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the last thing they do before
the Holy Spirit is poured out.
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After they vote, and they
cast lots, and they pray, and
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Matthias is chosen, the
next verse says they are praying
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together, and the Holy Spirit is
poured out, mighty wind, fire,
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the Pentecost happens.
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When you get to Revelation, the
144,000 is 12 times 12,000, and
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that number, of course, is
divided by 12 many ways, and
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they do a special
work in the last days.
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So, the number does mean
something, and they felt that it
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was important to
replace this missing apostle who
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committed suicide.
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Jëan: All right, thank
you, Donna, good question.
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Next caller that we
have is Glenn in Ohio.
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Glenn, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Glenn: Good evening, pastors,
and thank you for taking
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my call.
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You know, there's a situation
in the Book of Revelation, where
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it's called the
white throne judgment.
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There were the wicked or
prosecuted and sent to their
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final punishment.
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We can understand that,
but there's one that I have
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difficulty understanding, and
that's the situation of the mark
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of the beast.
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What is the purpose of the
mark of the beast in the Bible?
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Doug: Okay, well, the purpose
behind the mark of the beast is
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not something that God wills.
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It's this beast power is, he's
compelling the world to make an
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image to this first beast that
had a deadly wound by the sword
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but yet comes
back to life again.
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And God is saying that, you
know, he's compelling, not God
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but the beast power, everyone
to receive this mark, some mark
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of recognition.
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It's something they do that
shows submission to the laws of
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the beast as
opposed to the law of God.
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And the most fearful plague
and punishment that you find
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anywhere in the Bible is in
Revelation 14, where it talks
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about the wrath of God is going
to be poured out on anyone that
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has the mark of the beast or the
number of his name, and so, we
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need to know what that is, and
that's why we have a lesson that
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explains that.
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And I sure hope, Glenn, you'll
request this free lesson and
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read it.
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Jëan: The lesson is called
"The Mark of the Beast," very
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important study, and we'll
send this to anyone who calls
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and asks.
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The number is 800-835-6747.
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You can dial #250 on your
smartphone and ask for that
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study guide, "The Mark of the
Beast," and while you're at it,
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you might want to also ask for
the study guide called the "Seal
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of God."
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There are actually two marks
that you read about in the Book
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of Revelation.
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The righteous get the seal of
God, and the wicked get the mark
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of the beast,
so, important study.
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Thank you, Glenn.
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Next caller that we
have is Jet in Florida.
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Jet, welcome to the program.
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Jet: Hey.
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Doug: Hi, how are you doing?
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Jet: I'm good.
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So my question is: who do you
think the angel of the Lord is?
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Doug: Well, it
depends on what verse.
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The term "angel of the Lord" can
sometimes mean a regular angel
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who is sent by the Lord.
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Sometimes we believe the angel
of the Lord is what you would
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call a Christophany.
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That means Jesus is appearing
in the Old Testament before
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His incarnation.
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And the word "angel" there
means the messenger of the Lord.
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Now, some places you can go and
you find out about that, in the
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Book of Joshua, it says that
this mighty warrior appears to
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Joshua after the Battle of
Ai, and Joshua says, "Are you
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for us?
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Are you for our enemies?"
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And He said, "Neither." But
it's commander of the armies
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of the Lord.
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Then He tells Joshua, "Take your
shoes off your feet," same thing
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that was said to Moses
when Moses saw God at the
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burning bush.
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And so, he worships this angel.
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Well, we're not supposed
to worship regular angels.
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And then, these angels,
angelic-like beings, appeared to
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Abraham, and then later,
Abraham addresses one of them
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as the Lord.
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Jacob wrestles with an angel,
and later he says, "I have
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seen God."
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And the Bible says, "The Lord
Himself will descend from heaven
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with the voice of the
archangel," the Lord with
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the voice of the archangel.
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So, many believe several of
these occasions may be the one
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who appeared to Sa--Samson's
parents, that these were Christ
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coming before His incarnation,
and they identify Him as the
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Angel or Messenger of the Lord.
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Now, Jesus came into our
world as the Ultimate Messenger.
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Jesus is not an angel, don't
misunderstand, but the word
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"angel" means messenger.
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So there may be times when
Christ appeared, His divinity
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was cloaked, and He appeared as
an angel, a messenger of God, in
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some of the Old
Testament stories.
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And we have a book on
"Who is Michael the Archangel?"
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It talks about that.
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Jëan: Oh, that's a good
one, yeah, that'll explain that.
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The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
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You can dial #250 on your
smartphone, ask for that book.
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It's called "The Angel of the
Lord"--No, "Who is Michael the
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Archangel--?" it talks
about the angel of the Lord.
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I'll be happy to send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
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If you want a hard copy,
call for it or you can just
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dial #250 to get a
digital copy of the book.
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Doug: Yeah, just some
free information, Jet.
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I typed in "angel of
the Lord" in my computer.
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It appears 67
times in the Bible.
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We don't believe every one of
those times is talking about a
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Christophany,
but some of them are.
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Jëan: All right, thank you.
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Our next caller
is John in Georgia.
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John, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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John: Hey, how you doing?
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Doug: Doing much
better than we deserve.
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John: Same here, same here.
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So my question is about the one
thing, I always say, philosophy
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that a lot of
the churches believe.
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I had a discussion with a friend
of mine, and he insists that
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we're saved by grace as long as
we believe that Jesus was raised
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from the dead and we believe
that He's the Son of God.
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You'll be saved regardless
of your works, and I know that's
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not true.
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And I'm trying to explain it
to him, but it's hard because of
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the verses that he,
he's misinterpreted.
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Doug: Yeah, you know, at the
heart of that teaching, the idea
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that once you're saved, you
can't be lost, I think people
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want security.
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They're looking for
security that they're saved.
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All of us, even after coming
to Christ, we sin, and we think,
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"Oh no, I've just
lost my salvation."
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And so, a lot of people are
concerned about that, and they
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don't want to lose that sense of
assurance, and so they're very
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passionate about preserving the
idea that once you're saved, you
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can't be lost,
but it's not biblical.
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Now, can you have
assurance of your salvation?
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Yes, there's a lot of
verses that tell us that if we
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cooperate, God is going to
finish the work He started in
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our lives.
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He's the Author and the Finisher
of our faith, and He which has
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begun a good work in you will
perform it, and sin shall not
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have dominion over you.
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But the idea that your works
are not involved, Bible says in
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Revelation, "Everyone
is rewarded according to
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his works."
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And that verse, Pastor Ross, in
Revelation, where it says, "If
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we don't repent, our names will
be taken from the Book of Life
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and/or our candlestick will
be removed out of its place,"
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that's the first what?
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Chapter 2 and 3 in the
message to the churches.
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This--Paul said, "Lest I preach
to others, then I myself become
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a castaway," Paul said, "if I
continue on." And so, just this,
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this--Paul said, you know,
someone who is enlightened and
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filled with the Holy
Spirit--Peter rather, "And if
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they fall away," actually that's
Hebrews chapter 6, "If they fall
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away, it's impossible to renew
them to repentance." Jesus said,
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"Every vine in Me that
bears fruit, He'll prune it.
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But if it doesn't bear fruit,"
these are vines in Him, "doesn't
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bear fruit, they're cut
off and thrown in the fire."
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So, all through the Bible,
you've got examples, everyone
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from King Saul, who is filled
with the Spirit of God, and yet
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he grieves away the Holy
Spirit, and he commits suicide.
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It's just a very reckless belief
to believe once you're saved,
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you can't do
anything to be lost.
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I think our salvation,
like a marriage, is something
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we nurture.
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Unlike a marriage, God will
never leave us, but we can leave
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Him, and it's important
for us to understand that.
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Jëan: The verse you're
referring to, Revelation chapter
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3, verse 5, "Speaking about
those who are faithful, God will
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not blot their name out
of the Lamb's Book of Life."
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Doug: Yeah, so we need
to maintain faithfulness.
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Now, we have a free book that
talks about this, has a lot more
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verses, and we can share in
a few minutes, and it's called
00:20:09.20\00:20:12.27
"Can a Saved Man
Choose to Be Lost?"
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Jëan: And the number to
call for that is 800-835-6747.
00:20:14.88\00:20:18.48
You can just ask for the book
by name, "Can a Saved Man Choose
00:20:18.51\00:20:21.45
to Be Lost?"
00:20:21.48\00:20:22.78
You can also dial #250 on your
smartphone and ask for the book
00:20:22.82\00:20:26.25
that way.
00:20:26.29\00:20:27.59
You can get a digital download,
read it, and then share it to
00:20:27.62\00:20:29.62
somebody else.
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Our next call is
Anna, listening in Oregon.
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Anna, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Anna: Evening, pastors.
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Doug: Good
evening, thanks for calling.
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Anna: My question is: how can
I know what my spiritual gifts
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are from God?
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Doug: Good
question, practical question.
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First of all, how long
have you been a Christian?
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Anna: My whole life.
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Doug: Well, now, you--nobody--I
know, I know what you mean.
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You were probably raised a
Christian, but there, there's
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some point in your life where
you say, "Yes, I'm going to make
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this my own religion, and I
want to surrender my life to the
00:21:03.12\00:21:06.09
Lord," and maybe
you are baptized.
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And how long has that been?
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Anna: Not too long.
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Doug: Okay, a lot of the
spiritual gifts that I think I'm
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using now, I didn't even know
I had until after I'd come to
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the Lord, and it
didn't all happen at once.
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So, once you surrender to the
Lord, He begin--and He begins
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to develop certain
spiritual gifts in you.
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Now, some people may have
the gift of music and then they
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dedicate that to the Lord, and
now they're singing for the Lord
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instead of the devil, so
those are kind of obvious.
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But you might find some good
Christian friends, and say--they
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know you, and say, "What do you
think my spiritual gifts are?"
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They'll say,
"Oh, you don't know?
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It's easy to tell, your
gift is a gift of hospitality."
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And someone else might say, "You
know, you've got the gift of
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organization." And someone else
might say, "You've got the gift
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of music," or whatever it is.
00:21:56.18\00:21:58.65
You know, some people have
got gifts of teaching, and so,
00:21:58.68\00:22:04.62
talking to Christian counsel, to
mature Christians that know you,
00:22:04.65\00:22:08.42
that's one way,
praying that God reveals it.
00:22:08.46\00:22:10.93
He will also show
you what your gifts are.
00:22:10.96\00:22:13.83
And then there'll be passions
that God gives you, meaning
00:22:13.86\00:22:17.03
there's something you're excited
about, something you love to do,
00:22:17.07\00:22:20.37
and assuming it's something
good, that often develops into
00:22:20.40\00:22:23.71
a spiritual gift.
00:22:23.74\00:22:25.51
And it tells us in Psalm
37, "He gives us the desires of
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our heart."
00:22:28.91\00:22:30.25
I think God puts spiritual gifts
in us, then He gives us a desire
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to fulfill it.
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I don't think God put Adam
in a garden and had garden--Adam
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hate gardening.
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He probably loved it.
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So, I hope that helps, Anna.
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You know, we need a book on
spiritual gifts, I don't think
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we have one.
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Jëan: You know, we do
have the book called--
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Doug: "Life in the Spirit?"
00:22:47.73\00:22:49.00
Jëan: Well,
"Knowing the--God's Will?"
00:22:49.03\00:22:51.97
Doug: Yeah, "How to Know
the Will of God," that's good.
00:22:52.00\00:22:53.60
Jëan: Yeah, kind of
deals with that too.
00:22:53.64\00:22:55.44
Number to call is 800-835-6747,
you can call and ask for the
00:22:55.47\00:22:59.57
book, "How to
Know the Will of God."
00:22:59.61\00:23:01.48
And dial #250 on your
smartphone, you can get the book
00:23:01.51\00:23:05.11
that way as well.
00:23:05.15\00:23:06.75
Natasha in Nebraska.
00:23:06.78\00:23:08.12
Natasha, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:23:08.15\00:23:10.32
Natasha: Hello, and thank you.
00:23:10.35\00:23:13.52
Okay, yeah, thank
you for taking my call.
00:23:13.56\00:23:15.96
So, my question, it stems from
my morning devotion that I had
00:23:15.99\00:23:20.36
today about the Holy Spirit, and
I'm curious why do verses like
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Philippians chapter 1, verse
2 and Ephesians chapter 1, verse
00:23:24.77\00:23:28.70
2, they mention God the Father,
they mention God the Son, but
00:23:28.74\00:23:33.11
then the Holy Spirit is left
out, and I know He's the third
00:23:33.14\00:23:35.38
member of the Godhead, but
I'm curious why He was left out.
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Doug: Yeah, well, just keep
in mind, you'll has many passage
00:23:39.85\00:23:43.85
in in the Bible that will
just mention God, then you have
00:23:43.89\00:23:48.26
passages that will mention God
the Father and God the Son, then
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you have passages
that mention all three.
00:23:51.89\00:23:54.66
So, I want to build a doctrine
out of wondering why two are
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left out in some passages and
one is left out in one passage.
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The Holy Spirit, the disciples
understood, was omnipresent,
00:24:03.94\00:24:08.64
always involved, always
doing the will of the Father and
00:24:08.68\00:24:12.41
the Son, and so the work of the
Spirit is a little different.
00:24:12.45\00:24:18.05
So, I don't know why some
are mentioned at some point and
00:24:18.09\00:24:21.89
others at, at other points.
00:24:21.92\00:24:24.56
You know, one of the last things
it says in the Bible, it says,
00:24:24.59\00:24:26.80
"The spirit and
the bride say, come."
00:24:26.83\00:24:29.46
And, you know, the end of the
Bible, it says, "Even so, come,
00:24:29.50\00:24:32.30
Lord Jesus."
00:24:32.33\00:24:33.67
There are places where it
mentions Jesus and the Spirit
00:24:33.70\00:24:35.47
and not the Father.
00:24:35.50\00:24:37.47
You see what I'm saying?
00:24:37.51\00:24:38.84
So, I--it is interesting how
the different Bible writers will
00:24:38.87\00:24:44.48
highlight, you know, one member
of the Godhead, or two, or
00:24:44.51\00:24:48.08
three, and why they do it.
00:24:48.12\00:24:50.09
They do it, probably
the context of the book.
00:24:50.12\00:24:53.66
Jëan: You know, it's
interesting, when you read
00:24:53.69\00:24:55.02
the first chapter of Revelation
and it lists the Father and the
00:24:55.06\00:24:58.46
seven spirits, meaning the
Holy Spirit, and then Jesus.
00:24:58.49\00:25:02.20
So, it's a little different,
the order that we have.
00:25:02.23\00:25:04.63
Instead of the Father, Son, and
Holy Spirit, it's the Father,
00:25:04.67\00:25:07.27
the Spirit, and then Jesus.
00:25:07.30\00:25:08.87
But if you read it, John gives
a greeting from the Father and
00:25:08.90\00:25:12.97
from the Holy Spirit, but when
it comes to Jesus, then he goes
00:25:13.01\00:25:15.38
on and he says, "The one who
washed us from our sins and made
00:25:15.41\00:25:17.78
us kings and priests." He has
a lot more to say, so depending
00:25:17.81\00:25:21.52
upon what the emphasis was
that the writer was trying to
00:25:21.55\00:25:24.19
bring to view, that would
probably affect the order and
00:25:24.22\00:25:28.19
the style that they would write
those different referencing
00:25:28.22\00:25:30.46
the Godhead.
00:25:30.49\00:25:31.83
Doug: In the Books Ephesians and
Philippians, Paul is writing to
00:25:31.86\00:25:33.53
churches that are new.
00:25:33.56\00:25:34.96
They had no problem
believing in the Spirit.
00:25:35.00\00:25:36.77
They are problems believing in
Jesus as the Son of God, and so
00:25:36.80\00:25:39.77
he's spending more time
emphasizing that truth for these
00:25:39.80\00:25:43.14
particular churches.
00:25:43.17\00:25:44.47
So, that may also have
something to do with it, but
00:25:44.51\00:25:48.14
good question.
00:25:48.18\00:25:49.41
Jëan: You know, we do have a
book, we mentioned it earlier.
00:25:49.44\00:25:51.11
It might be good to go
along with the subject.
00:25:51.15\00:25:53.08
It's called--well, two books.
00:25:53.11\00:25:54.78
We have "Life in the Spirit."
00:25:54.82\00:25:56.25
That's one of the books
that talk about the Holy Spirit.
00:25:56.28\00:25:58.95
But "The
Trinity: Is It Biblical?"
00:25:58.99\00:26:00.72
is another book.
00:26:00.76\00:26:02.09
And we can send you both of
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00:26:04.69\00:26:10.47
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00:26:15.50\00:26:18.11
the Trinity.
00:26:18.14\00:26:19.47
Well, Pastor Doug, I'm looking
at the clock, we might not have
00:26:19.51\00:26:21.28
time to take another
caller just before our break.
00:26:21.31\00:26:23.68
Doug: One more thought, I--while
we're talking about the, the
00:26:23.71\00:26:26.38
Holy Spirit, and Father, and the
Son, it just occurred to me that
00:26:26.41\00:26:29.78
the last four books--verses in
the Bible talk about the Spirit,
00:26:29.82\00:26:34.52
talk about God, talk about
Jesus, and they're all, they
00:26:34.56\00:26:37.76
have their own verses.
00:26:37.79\00:26:39.03
So, you know, the, there's some
churches that are struggling or
00:26:39.06\00:26:43.40
some people that are struggling
with "is the Holy Spirit God?"
00:26:43.43\00:26:46.80
But right from the very
beginning of the Bible, where it
00:26:46.84\00:26:49.00
tells us, "The Spirit of God
moved on the face of the water"
00:26:49.04\00:26:51.91
to the very end, where it says,
"The spirit and the bride say,
00:26:51.94\00:26:54.38
come, take the water of life
freely," you see the Spirit of
00:26:54.41\00:26:57.18
God moving all through the
Bible, and it's, I think, a very
00:26:57.21\00:27:01.88
clear teaching that
God--there's this triune God.
00:27:01.92\00:27:05.99
God said, "Let us
make man in our image."
00:27:06.02\00:27:08.79
And the Holy Spirit is something
that fills us, and--or I should
00:27:08.82\00:27:12.73
say "He fills us" just as
God the Father, and the Son do.
00:27:12.76\00:27:15.83
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Jëan: My name is Jëan Ross, and
we've got some folks who have
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emailed their Bible questions
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So James is asking, Pastor Doug,
"Can you talk about the rich man
00:32:13.13\00:32:16.20
and Lazarus?
00:32:16.23\00:32:17.57
Is this relating to the fate of
the wicked in the lake of fire?
00:32:17.60\00:32:20.67
Doug: Yes and no, in
that there is a lake of fire.
00:32:20.70\00:32:23.81
It's not reflecting the timing.
00:32:23.84\00:32:25.77
Jesus is telling a parable, and
this is in a group of parables,
00:32:25.81\00:32:30.11
so some people think that this
parable means that as soon as
00:32:30.15\00:32:32.85
a person dies, the saved
are carried by the angels to
00:32:32.88\00:32:35.85
Abraham's bosom, well, nothing
else says that in the Bible, and
00:32:35.88\00:32:39.59
don't ever build a doctrine on
one verse, you need two or three
00:32:39.62\00:32:42.16
witnesses, and that a
person dies, and then they go to
00:32:42.19\00:32:45.33
a place called Hades, where
they can talk to the people
00:32:45.36\00:32:48.90
in heaven.
00:32:48.93\00:32:50.30
Well, that'd be horrible to
think that the people in heaven
00:32:50.33\00:32:53.03
could talk to the people in
hell or that you could even--the
00:32:53.07\00:32:56.64
people in heaven could
see the people in hell.
00:32:56.67\00:32:59.61
And so, the purpose of
this parable, Jesus is basically
00:32:59.64\00:33:03.38
using a paradox.
00:33:03.41\00:33:04.91
He's speaking to the Jewish
nation, who was rich in truth
00:33:04.95\00:33:08.15
and feasting on truth, while the
Gentiles, they are the beggars,
00:33:08.18\00:33:11.79
were at their gates desiring
the truth that fell from
00:33:11.82\00:33:14.12
their tables.
00:33:14.16\00:33:15.46
So they both die, and it so
happens that the poor Gentile
00:33:15.49\00:33:19.06
beggar, Lazarus, he goes
to the Jewish place of reward,
00:33:19.09\00:33:22.76
Abraham's bosom.
00:33:22.80\00:33:24.10
All the Jews
wanted to be with Abraham.
00:33:24.13\00:33:26.47
But the rich Jewish man,
he goes to the Greek place of
00:33:26.50\00:33:29.94
punishment, which is Hades.
00:33:29.97\00:33:32.11
It's--there's, you know, there's
no Pluto, god of Hades, and
00:33:32.14\00:33:34.98
there's no hounds of hell.
00:33:35.01\00:33:36.34
That's all mythology.
00:33:36.38\00:33:37.68
But everybody knew
the stories back then.
00:33:37.71\00:33:39.15
Like, if we should say "Alice
in Wonderland," everyone knows
00:33:39.18\00:33:41.82
you're telling an illustration.
00:33:41.85\00:33:44.09
And so Christ is just
illustrating there's going to be
00:33:44.12\00:33:46.25
a big reversal, and
that it'll be too late, then,
00:33:46.29\00:33:49.56
to change sides.
00:33:49.59\00:33:50.93
The rich man says, "Oh, you
know, if Abraham could--or if
00:33:50.96\00:33:53.16
Lazarus could dip his
finger and touch my tongue."
00:33:53.19\00:33:56.50
And Abraham says,
"There's a great gulf fixed."
00:33:56.53\00:34:00.70
Once you're lost,
probation is closed.
00:34:00.74\00:34:03.34
Jesus is saying that if
you don't care enough to share
00:34:03.37\00:34:06.34
the truth with people that
are starving at your gates, you
00:34:06.37\00:34:09.34
might find that they love the
truth, they're in the kingdom.
00:34:09.38\00:34:11.71
You've not, you've not valued
the truth, and you're going to
00:34:11.75\00:34:15.22
end up on the outside.
00:34:15.25\00:34:17.75
Luke spends a lot of time, and
this parable is only in Luke,
00:34:17.79\00:34:20.79
Luke spends a lot of time
explaining that the gospel
00:34:20.82\00:34:23.36
should go to the Gentiles
because Luke was a Gentile,
00:34:23.39\00:34:26.73
probably the only
Gentile New Testament writer.
00:34:26.76\00:34:29.76
Jëan: Good answer.
00:34:29.80\00:34:31.13
All right, Shelley's asking,
"How did Satan know Adam and Eve
00:34:31.17\00:34:33.77
were on the earth,
and why was he allowed
00:34:33.80\00:34:36.27
in the Garden of Eden?"
00:34:36.30\00:34:38.01
Doug: Well, Satan, I
think, had a pretty vast
00:34:38.04\00:34:40.81
knowledge, because he was the
number one creation of God, and
00:34:40.84\00:34:45.58
whenever God created anything,
these angels were ministering
00:34:45.61\00:34:48.65
spirits that would guard
and, and--maybe not guard from
00:34:48.68\00:34:51.75
danger, but they would
provide for and minister to all
00:34:51.79\00:34:55.92
the creatures.
00:34:55.96\00:34:57.29
So Satan, he was Lucifer at one
point, he knew about God making
00:34:57.33\00:35:01.73
it a whole world with creatures
in His own image, was not
00:35:01.76\00:35:05.73
anything that could be hidden,
and He really resented that God
00:35:05.77\00:35:10.77
intended to replace the, the
angels that had been cast out
00:35:10.81\00:35:15.78
with these creatures made in
God's image, and he went after
00:35:15.81\00:35:19.58
them in a special way.
00:35:19.61\00:35:21.65
Jëan: All right, last question,
email question that's coming,
00:35:21.68\00:35:24.45
"Why did God allow the Egyptians
to be part of the Exodus
00:35:24.49\00:35:27.32
from Egypt?
00:35:27.36\00:35:28.66
They just seemed
to cause problems."
00:35:28.69\00:35:29.99
Doug: Yeah, well, you know,
00:35:30.03\00:35:31.73
that just goes to show
that God is a merciful God, and
00:35:31.76\00:35:34.36
when the Israelite slaves were
escaping, many of the Egyptian
00:35:34.40\00:35:38.40
slaves were saying--they
called them the mixed multitude,
00:35:38.43\00:35:41.50
because they
weren't just Egyptians.
00:35:41.54\00:35:42.87
They, they could have
been Edomites, Ammonites.
00:35:42.90\00:35:45.41
They could have been people from
Libya and all different parts of
00:35:45.44\00:35:48.58
the, the Mideast world
there, and they wanted to take
00:35:48.61\00:35:52.91
advantage of that time and
escape with the Israelites while
00:35:52.95\00:35:55.48
the going was good.
00:35:55.52\00:35:56.75
So God was merciful, He let them
tag along, but because they did
00:35:56.79\00:36:00.49
not worship Jehovah and
they tried to mix in their pagan
00:36:00.52\00:36:04.16
beliefs with the worship of
Jehovah, they often did a lot of
00:36:04.19\00:36:07.46
the murmuring, complaining,
and problem-causing.
00:36:07.50\00:36:11.00
Doug: All right, very good.
00:36:11.03\00:36:12.37
Well, again, thank you
for your email questions.
00:36:12.40\00:36:13.80
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00:36:13.84\00:36:15.20
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00:36:15.24\00:36:19.21
Back to the phone lines,
we got Joshua in California.
00:36:19.24\00:36:21.81
Joshua, welcome to the program.
00:36:21.84\00:36:24.28
Joshua: Quick
question on ya--for ya, rather.
00:36:24.31\00:36:26.75
Revelation chapter 17,
verse 16, what's going on there?
00:36:26.78\00:36:32.79
Doug: Okay, let me read this for
our friends that are listening.
00:36:32.82\00:36:34.92
A lot of folks are
driving down the road listening
00:36:34.96\00:36:36.93
on satellite radio.
00:36:36.96\00:36:38.56
And it says, "The
ten horns that you saw,
00:36:38.59\00:36:41.53
they and the beast
will hate the prostitute.
00:36:41.56\00:36:44.77
They will make her
desolate and naked,
00:36:44.80\00:36:47.30
and devour her flesh
and burn her up with fire."
00:36:47.34\00:36:49.64
This is basically
saying, now, in in the beginning
00:36:49.67\00:36:53.24
of chapter 17,
you've got this woman,
00:36:53.27\00:36:55.51
she's the
prostitute, the harlot, Babylon.
00:36:55.54\00:36:57.61
She's sitting on the beast.
00:36:57.65\00:36:59.45
She's controlling, manipulating.
00:36:59.48\00:37:00.98
She commits adultery
with the kings of the earth.
00:37:01.02\00:37:03.82
It's talking about
a woman as a church.
00:37:03.85\00:37:05.89
Kings of the
earth are political.
00:37:05.92\00:37:07.62
It's talking about the
church-state corruption.
00:37:07.66\00:37:11.59
They get involved in supporting
each other, and in the end, they
00:37:11.63\00:37:15.66
are going to turn on her.
00:37:15.70\00:37:16.93
Now that's not the first time
it's happened in history, but
00:37:16.97\00:37:19.20
it'll happen in a big
way in the end of time.
00:37:19.23\00:37:21.74
During the French Revolution,
the French became exasperated
00:37:21.77\00:37:25.21
with the meddling of the church
in France, and they killed many
00:37:25.24\00:37:29.84
priests and basically demoted
them or kicked them out of
00:37:29.88\00:37:32.85
the country.
00:37:32.88\00:37:34.22
Well, this is going to happen on
a much grander scale just before
00:37:34.25\00:37:37.39
the Second Coming, where
the kingdoms that have been in
00:37:37.42\00:37:43.19
conspiracy, they've been
in cahoots and accomplices of
00:37:43.22\00:37:46.29
the beast power, are
going to turn on each other.
00:37:46.33\00:37:50.00
And it says they're
going to "devour her flesh."
00:37:50.03\00:37:52.03
Darkness is on
the seat of the beast.
00:37:52.07\00:37:54.14
That is one of the plagues.
00:37:54.17\00:37:56.04
And so, this is just talking
about the final war where they,
00:37:56.07\00:38:00.14
they sort of turn in on
themselves and self-destruct.
00:38:00.18\00:38:02.94
You see this happening in a
battle in the Old Testament,
00:38:02.98\00:38:06.61
whatever you see in Revelation,
you'll see somewhere in the Old
00:38:06.65\00:38:08.85
Testament, where Jehoshaphat
goes out against this
00:38:08.88\00:38:12.12
threefold alliance.
00:38:12.15\00:38:14.02
In Revelation, you've
got the beast, the dragon,
00:38:14.06\00:38:16.06
the false prophet.
00:38:16.09\00:38:17.43
Jehoshaphat goes out
against Edom, Moab, and Amon.
00:38:17.46\00:38:20.23
They were neighbors of
Israel that turned on them.
00:38:20.26\00:38:23.20
Well, when it came time
for the battle, Jehoshaphat and
00:38:23.23\00:38:26.63
the priest, they
just prayed and they sang.
00:38:26.67\00:38:28.70
And it says the Ammonites,
Edomites, and Moabites turned on
00:38:28.74\00:38:31.51
one another, and they
basically self-destructed.
00:38:31.54\00:38:34.41
When the Israelites got there,
there wasn't one left alive.
00:38:34.44\00:38:38.98
So, yeah, that's
what's going to happen.
00:38:39.01\00:38:41.92
Jëan: You know, we do
have a study guide that talks
00:38:41.95\00:38:43.75
about Babylon, and that's
the name of this woman described
00:38:43.79\00:38:47.52
in Revelation.
00:38:47.56\00:38:48.86
Of course, a woman
represents the church.
00:38:48.89\00:38:50.23
And you can learn a
lot more about that.
00:38:50.26\00:38:51.83
It's called "The 'Other' Woman,"
and we'll send it to anyone who
00:38:51.86\00:38:54.40
calls and asks.
00:38:54.46\00:38:55.76
The number is 800-835-6747,
or you can dial #250 on your
00:38:55.80\00:39:00.74
smartphone and say,
"Bible Answers Live."
00:39:00.77\00:39:03.07
Ask for the study guide.
00:39:03.10\00:39:04.41
It's called "The
Other Woman," Revelation 17.
00:39:04.44\00:39:07.24
Gerald in Michigan.
00:39:07.28\00:39:08.61
Gerald, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:39:08.64\00:39:10.58
Gerald: Hey, Pastor, okay, over
in New Jersey and now they're
00:39:10.61\00:39:14.38
saying from the West Coast to
the East Coast, they're seeing
00:39:14.42\00:39:18.09
drones, but also these
spheres, and these spheres, are
00:39:18.12\00:39:24.16
they--could they be biblical
and related to the last days of
00:39:24.19\00:39:28.76
the signs and wonders, such as
Joel talks about in chapter 2?
00:39:28.80\00:39:33.17
Doug: It could be, yeah,
well, and it talks about--and
00:39:33.20\00:39:37.17
Jesus also says
there'll be signs in the sun,
00:39:37.21\00:39:39.54
and the moon, and the stars.
00:39:39.57\00:39:41.11
I come at this from a
different perspective.
00:39:41.14\00:39:43.88
I'm a pilot, and my dad
was a pilot, and my brother was
00:39:43.91\00:39:48.95
a pilot, and we
spent a lot of time flying.
00:39:48.98\00:39:51.69
And some of these things that
they're showing on the news, I'm
00:39:51.72\00:39:53.86
looking at it, and I'm
going, "That is an aircraft."
00:39:53.89\00:39:57.49
It's at a distance, and it looks
close, and the, the temperature,
00:39:57.53\00:40:00.56
and the sky, and the humidity
can all create an illusion of
00:40:00.60\00:40:03.97
things being closer.
00:40:04.00\00:40:05.33
So some of these are
just aircraft that they just
00:40:05.37\00:40:07.30
don't understand.
00:40:07.34\00:40:08.64
Some of them are drones,
and I've got a lot of friends,
00:40:08.67\00:40:10.41
we use drones in
our media production.
00:40:10.44\00:40:11.91
You can buy--anyone
can buy a drone now.
00:40:11.94\00:40:14.41
And more sophisticated drones,
you're actually supposed to have
00:40:14.44\00:40:17.68
a license for a production
drone, but a lot of people are
00:40:17.71\00:40:20.08
buying them, and
they have no license.
00:40:20.12\00:40:22.12
And they got
the flashing lights.
00:40:22.15\00:40:23.49
I mean, if I was spying, I'd
turn off the flashing lights.
00:40:23.52\00:40:26.49
So, I'm not worried about anyone
spying, because why would the
00:40:26.52\00:40:30.89
spies fly the drones with the
red and green flashing lights
00:40:30.93\00:40:33.36
on them?
00:40:33.40\00:40:34.86
So, are people flying drones?
00:40:34.93\00:40:36.53
Yeah, there's drones
flying everywhere right now.
00:40:36.56\00:40:39.23
Sometimes we hear them.
00:40:39.27\00:40:41.54
It sounds like a swarm of bees
overhead, because they're doing
00:40:41.57\00:40:44.27
the "geee." You hear all those
fans going up in the sky, and we
00:40:44.31\00:40:47.34
see drones flying around.
00:40:47.38\00:40:48.84
So, a lot of
people are flying drones.
00:40:48.88\00:40:51.05
Are they all for
nefarious purposes?
00:40:51.08\00:40:53.18
Not necessarily.
00:40:53.21\00:40:54.95
Could it be some of its satanic?
00:40:54.98\00:40:57.45
Could be, the devil can use, you
know, Satan can have, what do
00:40:57.49\00:41:04.19
you call it,
appears an angel of light.
00:41:04.23\00:41:06.63
Satan could try and deceive
people into thinking that
00:41:06.66\00:41:09.03
messages are
coming from outer space.
00:41:09.06\00:41:11.10
So that wouldn't surprise me.
00:41:11.13\00:41:13.97
All--everything happening
now, I think, is a sign of the
00:41:14.00\00:41:15.54
last days.
00:41:15.57\00:41:16.87
I think AI is a
sign of the last days.
00:41:16.91\00:41:19.04
So, that's a meandering answer,
but, yeah, tune into the sermon
00:41:19.07\00:41:23.18
next week.
00:41:23.21\00:41:24.55
I'm going to be
talking about UFOs and drones.
00:41:24.58\00:41:26.82
Jëan: All right,
Kimberly in Canada.
00:41:26.85\00:41:28.62
Kimberly, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:41:28.65\00:41:30.89
Kimberly: Hi Pastor, I have been
dying to get this question off
00:41:30.92\00:41:33.82
my chest.
00:41:33.86\00:41:35.29
Doug: Well, don't die.
00:41:35.32\00:41:36.62
Well, hopefully we can help ya.
00:41:36.66\00:41:39.19
Kimberly: The other night, I had
YouTube on and Genesis came on
00:41:39.23\00:41:42.50
on an audio roll.
00:41:42.53\00:41:44.50
So I'm listening, "And on the
sixth day, let us make mankind
00:41:44.53\00:41:48.44
in our image," okay, got that.
00:41:48.47\00:41:51.07
Then I'm
wandering around doing this.
00:41:51.11\00:41:52.47
Chapter 2: "Then he made
Adam and blew life into Adam."
00:41:52.51\00:41:57.38
I'm going, "Wait a second,
mankind, then you made Adam?"
00:41:57.41\00:42:03.18
So, and that would explain
why Cain didn't want to leave,
00:42:03.22\00:42:06.35
because they said they'd kill
him, and then he built all these
00:42:06.39\00:42:08.56
cities and took a wife.
00:42:08.59\00:42:10.89
I'm confused.
00:42:10.93\00:42:12.26
Doug: All right, I'll help
you a little bit with that.
00:42:12.29\00:42:16.40
Just keep in mind that
the Jewish writers, of course,
00:42:16.43\00:42:19.77
the Bible is written largely
by Jews, they often use what
00:42:19.80\00:42:23.54
newspapers use today, where you
start out with a headline, then
00:42:23.57\00:42:26.94
you back up and
give more detail.
00:42:26.98\00:42:28.38
You find that in Revelation,
a lot of the Bible stories.
00:42:28.41\00:42:32.31
Chapter one is the headline: "In
the beginning, God creates the
00:42:32.35\00:42:34.88
heaven, the earth." It tells the
days of Creation, "God made man
00:42:34.92\00:42:37.59
on the sixth day."
00:42:37.62\00:42:38.99
Soon, it backs up and it says,
now, basically saying when God
00:42:39.02\00:42:42.06
made Adam, and then it tells
you about, also, how Adam named
00:42:42.09\00:42:45.19
his wife.
00:42:45.23\00:42:46.56
It's just backing up and giving
you more detail on the outline
00:42:46.59\00:42:50.93
to the chapter, and that's a
writing technique that's used by
00:42:50.97\00:42:54.84
a lot of authors.
00:42:54.87\00:42:56.20
They sort of give what you
call the headlines, a sweeping
00:42:56.24\00:42:58.21
overview of the story.
00:42:58.24\00:42:59.64
Then they'll back them, and
they'll fill in the details.
00:42:59.67\00:43:02.24
Now, Cain, when it says he took
his wife, you read in chapter 5
00:43:02.28\00:43:05.88
that Adam and Eve had sons and
daughters, and there was nothing
00:43:05.91\00:43:09.05
wrong with marrying
your sister back then.
00:43:09.08\00:43:11.02
Cain took one of his sisters,
and Adam technically married his
00:43:11.05\00:43:14.69
sister, you could argue,
because they had the same Father
00:43:14.72\00:43:17.36
in heaven.
00:43:17.39\00:43:18.69
So, yeah, some people say
there's two separate Creations
00:43:18.73\00:43:21.86
happening here, but no, they're
just--the Hebrew writers, it
00:43:21.90\00:43:25.20
often gives a big picture,
then it backs up and gives
00:43:25.23\00:43:27.84
the detail.
00:43:27.87\00:43:29.20
For example, in chapter 6,
it says, "Wickedness filled the
00:43:29.24\00:43:31.71
earth," when the sons of God
came to the daughters of men.
00:43:31.74\00:43:35.44
Then it backs up and says, "But
Noah found grace in the eyes of
00:43:35.48\00:43:37.51
the Lord," and it starts telling
the Noah--the story of Noah.
00:43:37.55\00:43:41.02
But, yeah, you find that
happening many times, where it
00:43:41.05\00:43:44.95
gives a big picture,
headlines, back up, details.
00:43:44.99\00:43:48.49
Jëan: Yeah, especially when
you get to prophetic books, like
00:43:48.52\00:43:50.53
Revelation in particular.
00:43:50.56\00:43:51.86
It's not always written in
chronological order, and it's
00:43:51.89\00:43:54.46
even true of some of the
historical books, as Pastor Doug
00:43:54.46\00:43:56.53
mentioned, that gives the
big picture and then fills in
00:43:56.56\00:43:59.20
the details.
00:43:59.23\00:44:00.54
And so, you got to kind of bear
that in mind as you read through
00:44:00.57\00:44:03.61
and study these
various passages.
00:44:03.64\00:44:06.17
All right, thank you, Kimberly.
00:44:06.21\00:44:07.51
We've got Matthew in Tennessee.
00:44:07.54\00:44:08.84
Matthew, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:44:08.88\00:44:10.55
Matthew: Hey guys,
thanks for taking my call.
00:44:10.58\00:44:12.25
The question is: if all
the wicked perish prior to the
00:44:12.28\00:44:15.12
millennial reign of
Christ and all those
00:44:15.15\00:44:17.02
in Christ are raised
incorruptible, who are these in
00:44:17.05\00:44:20.52
Isaiah 65:20 that
continue to see death?
00:44:20.56\00:44:25.23
Doug: Are you talking about when
it says, "The wicked will die
00:44:25.26\00:44:27.46
a hundred years old?"
00:44:27.50\00:44:29.73
Matthew: Yes.
00:44:29.76\00:44:31.17
Doug: Well, actually, the word
there, "die," doesn't mean die.
00:44:31.20\00:44:35.14
The word "die"
there means cease.
00:44:35.17\00:44:37.31
Well, I think it says a child
will--won't even cease until
00:44:37.34\00:44:41.71
it's a hundred years old.
00:44:41.74\00:44:43.04
I'm actually misquoting it,
so I need to go to Isaiah 65.
00:44:43.08\00:44:44.98
Jëan: Yeah, let me
read it, I have it here.
00:44:45.01\00:44:46.51
It says, "No more shall an
infant from there live but a few
00:44:46.55\00:44:50.09
days, nor an old man who has not
fulfilled his days; for a child
00:44:50.12\00:44:54.49
shall die one hundred years old,
but the sin of being a hundred
00:44:54.52\00:44:57.86
years old shall be
accursed." Doug: Yeah.
00:44:57.89\00:45:00.70
So, he's basically saying there,
when it says "a child will die
00:45:00.73\00:45:03.33
a hundred years
old," use the word "cease."
00:45:03.37\00:45:06.67
It means a child will not
even cease being a child until
00:45:06.70\00:45:11.67
they're a hundred years old.
00:45:11.71\00:45:13.17
Now, that's easier to understand
when you look in Genesis, and
00:45:13.21\00:45:16.98
you see that some of the
early patriarchs, they lived
00:45:17.01\00:45:19.08
900 years.
00:45:19.11\00:45:20.42
They did not even get
married till they're a hundred.
00:45:20.45\00:45:22.45
Of course, Abraham got
married after a hundred and had
00:45:22.48\00:45:24.52
more children.
00:45:24.55\00:45:25.79
They lived longer, and--what,
Isaac lived 180 years, Abraham
00:45:25.82\00:45:30.06
175 years, Jacob 145
years, Joseph 110 years.
00:45:30.09\00:45:35.83
Then you get down to
David, and he lived 70 years.
00:45:35.86\00:45:38.60
And now we're living at what
they call three score and ten.
00:45:38.63\00:45:41.04
You know, you average of
70, 80 years and with a few
00:45:41.07\00:45:45.61
rare exceptions.
00:45:45.64\00:45:46.94
We have one of our
members had his 101st birthday
00:45:46.98\00:45:48.64
today actually.
00:45:48.68\00:45:49.91
We celebrated yesterday, but he
turned 101, and he was at church
00:45:49.94\00:45:53.35
enjoying the the program.
00:45:53.38\00:45:55.55
So that word "death," and no
one's going to die in heaven.
00:45:55.58\00:45:58.79
Yeah, no more
death in Revelation 21.
00:45:58.82\00:46:01.82
Isaiah is using poetic language.
00:46:01.86\00:46:03.99
Jëan: Okay, next caller that we
have is Leonard in Washington.
00:46:04.03\00:46:06.73
Leonard, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:46:06.76\00:46:08.96
Leonard: Yes, thanks for
taking my call, Doug and Jean.
00:46:09.00\00:46:13.90
In Leviticus 16, it talks about
two goats in verse 8, and 9, and
00:46:13.94\00:46:19.51
15, and then 21, and 22,
and I'm wondering, is Satan
00:46:19.54\00:46:24.28
the scapegoat?
00:46:24.31\00:46:25.65
And if he is, does he have to
pay the penalty for the sins of
00:46:25.68\00:46:29.65
all the people who go to heaven?
00:46:29.68\00:46:32.39
Doug: Well, you get two goats
here in Leviticus when it talks
00:46:32.42\00:46:35.49
about the Day of Atonement.
00:46:35.52\00:46:36.93
One is called the Lord's goat,
so we don't have to guess what
00:46:36.96\00:46:40.73
that goat represents.
00:46:40.76\00:46:42.43
That goat dies, and
its blood is applied.
00:46:42.46\00:46:45.60
That is certainly
a symbol of Jesus.
00:46:45.63\00:46:48.40
The, the other goat, the Azazel,
the scapegoat, it is not slain,
00:46:48.44\00:46:53.44
it is not sacrificed, it's
carried off by a fit man, and
00:46:53.48\00:46:56.58
that means a responsible
man, into the wilderness.
00:46:56.61\00:47:00.32
And all the sins of the people
were placed on that goat, and it
00:47:00.35\00:47:04.15
was never to come back.
00:47:04.19\00:47:05.99
And many believe, and I believe,
that this is--let me just back
00:47:06.02\00:47:11.69
up, because as soon as you
say that Satan is bearing sin,
00:47:11.73\00:47:14.56
you're saying, "Is
he our sin-bearer?"
00:47:14.56\00:47:16.46
No, some sins are born
because of a substitute, Jesus
00:47:16.50\00:47:21.94
as our substitute.
00:47:21.97\00:47:23.30
If Christ does not pay for your
sin, if you do not accept Jesus,
00:47:23.34\00:47:26.84
are your sins paid for?
00:47:26.88\00:47:28.18
Yeah, you paid for your sins.
00:47:28.21\00:47:30.31
You will be punished for
your sins if you do not accept
00:47:30.35\00:47:32.65
Christ's
sacrifice and follow Him.
00:47:32.68\00:47:35.32
Does the devil get to
punish--suffer for the sins that
00:47:35.35\00:47:37.92
he has instigated?
00:47:37.95\00:47:39.69
Yes.
00:47:39.72\00:47:41.02
And so, when it talks about this
scapegoat that goes off in the
00:47:41.06\00:47:43.99
wilderness, it's talking
about the devil forever being
00:47:44.03\00:47:47.13
separated from God's people.
00:47:47.13\00:47:48.96
And Christ is not
burying our sins forever.
00:47:49.00\00:47:52.60
It says, oh, I forget the
verse, He comes the second time
00:47:52.63\00:47:55.24
Hebrews, "Without
sin unto salvation."
00:47:55.27\00:47:57.67
Yeah, so when He comes back
again, He's not still burying
00:47:57.71\00:48:00.28
our sins.
00:48:00.31\00:48:01.68
So, ultimately, when Satan is
cast into the lake of fire, sin
00:48:01.71\00:48:06.48
and sinners will be
forever done away with.
00:48:06.51\00:48:09.72
In that sense, he is the
scapegoat, he's going to pay for
00:48:09.75\00:48:12.82
all the sins he's instigated.
00:48:12.85\00:48:14.86
So, Christ is the Lord's goat.
00:48:14.89\00:48:16.66
The other goat is
the opposite of that.
00:48:16.69\00:48:19.63
Now some people believe both
goats represent Jesus, and, you
00:48:19.66\00:48:22.90
know, I don't
think that's a doctrine.
00:48:22.93\00:48:25.07
It's what you would not
call a salvation doctrine.
00:48:25.10\00:48:27.67
If someone doesn't understand
that, I don't think that's going
00:48:27.70\00:48:30.31
to cost them their
salvation, but that's the way
00:48:30.34\00:48:32.94
I understand it.
00:48:32.97\00:48:34.28
Jëan: Yeah, and of course,
it's important to note that the
00:48:34.31\00:48:35.74
scapegoat was never sacrificed,
so it can't be Jesus, because
00:48:35.78\00:48:39.35
Jesus sacrificed.
00:48:39.38\00:48:40.72
Doug: No blood is shed--"Without
the shedding the blood
00:48:40.75\00:48:42.28
there's no forgiveness."
00:48:42.32\00:48:43.55
Jëan: Right, okay, thank you,
Leonard--we got Trent in Texas.
00:48:43.59\00:48:46.35
Trent, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:48:46.39\00:48:49.36
Trent: Hey, hey, Pastor Doug,
hey, Pastor John, how are you
00:48:49.39\00:48:51.33
guys doing tonight?
00:48:51.36\00:48:52.69
Doug: Doing great,
thank you for calling.
00:48:52.73\00:48:54.00
Trent: Hey, that's good.
00:48:54.03\00:48:55.36
Yeah, I just wanna let you
guys know I'm actually, I was an
00:48:55.40\00:48:57.73
AFCOE student back in 2015,
so it's good to hearing from you
00:48:57.77\00:49:00.20
guys again.
00:49:00.24\00:49:01.57
Doug: Oh, it's been
ten years, congratulations.
00:49:01.60\00:49:02.90
Trent: Yeah,
yep, almost ten years.
00:49:02.94\00:49:04.67
Yup, that's right.
00:49:04.71\00:49:06.81
But I--my question that I have
for you guys tonight, I have
00:49:06.84\00:49:09.78
studied this and I have
not been able to figure it out.
00:49:09.81\00:49:12.48
So I, I know that the Holy
Spirit was in the Old Testament,
00:49:12.51\00:49:15.82
It's working on everyone's
hearts at that time, but why did
00:49:15.85\00:49:19.79
Jesus say, in John 16:7, that if
He did not depart, the Helper,
00:49:19.82\00:49:24.83
or the Holy
Spirit, would not come?
00:49:24.86\00:49:27.56
Doug: Well, the
baptism--let's just back up.
00:49:27.60\00:49:31.50
God's Spirit has worked
all through Bible history.
00:49:31.53\00:49:34.27
You can see everywhere,
from Genesis, where it says the
00:49:34.30\00:49:37.44
Spirit moves on the water, to
where David was filled with the
00:49:37.47\00:49:40.58
Holy Spirit, Saul was filled
with the Holy Spirit, Samson,
00:49:40.61\00:49:43.31
Spirit of the Lord came on him,
so, God's Spirit's working all
00:49:43.35\00:49:45.51
through the Bible.
00:49:45.55\00:49:47.05
The Spirit of the Lord rested
on the 70 elders in Exodus, so,
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you've got the
Holy Spirit working.
00:49:50.69\00:49:52.85
But something special
happens after Pentecost with the
00:49:52.89\00:49:55.39
Holy Spirit.
00:49:55.42\00:49:57.06
Christ bought the right
for a special baptism and
00:49:57.09\00:50:00.33
manifestation of the Spirit.
00:50:00.36\00:50:02.36
By His sacrifice being declared,
that would not happen until He
00:50:02.40\00:50:06.20
ascended to the Father, and they
said He had lived a perfectly
00:50:06.23\00:50:09.90
holy life, and He had suffered
for all the sins of the world.
00:50:09.94\00:50:14.14
He had purchased the
right to send the Holy Spirit in
00:50:14.18\00:50:18.25
a special power.
00:50:18.28\00:50:20.82
Obviously, something
extraordinary in history
00:50:20.85\00:50:23.75
happened at Pentecost
that continued all through
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the apostolic era.
00:50:26.45\00:50:28.19
So, I think he's
talking about that.
00:50:28.22\00:50:30.39
He's not saying that, you know,
you've not had the Holy Spirit.
00:50:30.43\00:50:33.50
It was the Holy Spirit
that led them to Jesus.
00:50:33.53\00:50:35.76
It's the Holy Spirit
that convicted them of sin.
00:50:35.80\00:50:38.33
And you read also in John, in
the upper room, He breathes on
00:50:38.37\00:50:41.20
them and says,
"Receive the Holy Spirit."
00:50:41.24\00:50:43.64
But that was not
Pentecost. Pentecost,
00:50:43.67\00:50:45.61
He said, "Don't go preaching.
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Wait in Jerusalem until you
receive this anointing," this
00:50:48.28\00:50:51.61
special power of the Spirit.
00:50:51.65\00:50:53.98
Something special happened there
after Christ ascended and his
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sacrifice was declared accepted.
00:50:57.29\00:50:59.59
He had purchased the right then.
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Jëan: All right, excellent.
00:51:01.86\00:51:03.16
We've got Derek in Alabama.
00:51:03.19\00:51:04.53
Derek, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:51:04.56\00:51:06.56
Derek: First time
listener as of tonight.
00:51:06.59\00:51:08.90
I just happen to be scanning
through the radio and hear you
00:51:08.93\00:51:11.73
guys, and I'm so
glad you're there.
00:51:11.77\00:51:13.64
Doug: We're glad you called.
00:51:13.67\00:51:14.97
Derek: I appreciate you,
gentlemen, it's a lot of weight
00:51:15.00\00:51:18.11
on your shoulders for this.
00:51:18.14\00:51:19.67
All right, so, this is
complicated and simple at the
00:51:19.71\00:51:21.88
same time, and it's something
I've always wondered since I was
00:51:21.91\00:51:23.95
a little kid, and what this
is is it's a spiritual warfare.
00:51:23.98\00:51:28.95
I'm retired military.
00:51:28.98\00:51:30.69
What I was trained is, if we're
on the battlefield and you have
00:51:30.72\00:51:33.05
the enemy, you terminate
the enemy's life at worst
00:51:33.09\00:51:36.19
case scenario.
00:51:36.22\00:51:37.96
Okay, so anytime I've seen
pictures of angels battling each
00:51:37.99\00:51:42.33
other, you see them with drawn
swords, fighting each other, but
00:51:42.36\00:51:46.10
the idea behind a sword
is you're going to thrust it
00:51:46.13\00:51:48.00
through a body and kill it.
00:51:48.04\00:51:49.50
As far as I know, angels can't
die, neither can fallen angels.
00:51:49.54\00:51:55.68
So my question is, how
do they battle each other?
00:51:55.71\00:51:58.58
Can they hurt
each other for real?
00:51:58.61\00:52:00.22
Because as far as I know,
they're spiritual beings, they
00:52:00.25\00:52:02.05
don't have pain receptors.
00:52:02.08\00:52:03.92
So, how do they actually fight
each other and protect people?
00:52:03.95\00:52:08.99
It, to me, it's--
00:52:09.02\00:52:10.63
since I was a little kid.
00:52:10.66\00:52:12.39
Doug: Kind of mysterious, yeah,
well, it's a great question,
00:52:12.43\00:52:14.10
because you read in Revelation
12, there's a war in heaven.
00:52:14.10\00:52:18.23
Michael and his angels
fought, and the dragon and his
00:52:18.27\00:52:20.74
angels fought.
00:52:20.77\00:52:22.10
So here, you've got the
good angels and the evil angels
00:52:22.14\00:52:25.14
engaging in some
kind of a warfare.
00:52:25.17\00:52:28.28
Do they fight?
00:52:28.31\00:52:29.61
Yeah, the Bible's clear.
00:52:29.64\00:52:31.28
It says, we don't
wrestle, we fight against these
00:52:31.31\00:52:33.88
spiritual powers.
00:52:33.92\00:52:35.22
Now, you said
something I need to correct.
00:52:35.25\00:52:36.58
You said, "Angels can't die."
00:52:36.62\00:52:37.95
I don't think
angels kill each other.
00:52:37.99\00:52:40.86
I think they bind.
00:52:40.89\00:52:42.79
You've talked in Jude
about angels that are bound in
00:52:42.82\00:52:45.43
everlasting chains of darkness,
and in Revelation, it says,
00:52:45.46\00:52:48.00
"Satan is bound
for a thousand years."
00:52:48.03\00:52:50.57
So there are restrictions,
angels can be fenced in,
00:52:50.60\00:52:53.37
they can be restricted.
00:52:53.40\00:52:55.34
And you do see in Ezekiel
chapter 9, talks about an angel
00:52:55.37\00:53:00.34
with a destroying weapon.
00:53:00.38\00:53:01.71
What those weapons are,
you know, I don't think we can
00:53:01.74\00:53:05.35
even comprehend.
00:53:05.38\00:53:07.22
But the good angels
do war with evil angels.
00:53:07.25\00:53:12.19
You read, where is it?
00:53:12.22\00:53:13.52
In Daniel 10, where it talks
about Michael's fighting with
00:53:13.56\00:53:15.79
the prince of Persia, meaning
he's probably fighting with
00:53:15.82\00:53:17.69
Lucifer, who is manipulating the
king of Persia, and that went on
00:53:17.73\00:53:21.66
21 days.
00:53:21.70\00:53:22.93
Jëan: And of course, it's not
only, you've got the angels that
00:53:22.96\00:53:24.73
might war with one another.
00:53:24.77\00:53:26.90
In other words, the good angels
are protecting God's people, but
00:53:26.94\00:53:30.74
there's also the devil and his
angels that are trying to war
00:53:30.77\00:53:33.48
against us, and that is through
our mind, through temptation,
00:53:33.51\00:53:36.95
putting thoughts, doubt in our
minds, so that is a real battle
00:53:36.98\00:53:41.35
too, but that's sort
of the battle of the mind.
00:53:41.38\00:53:43.79
Doug: Yeah, but I think God
sends, when we pray, He'll send
00:53:43.82\00:53:46.02
good angels to
dispel, waft away.
00:53:46.05\00:53:50.16
And in the Book of Job,
Satan said to God, "You have put
00:53:50.19\00:53:54.20
a hedge about Job."
00:53:54.20\00:53:55.53
Meaning, you're,
like, surrounded him.
00:53:55.56\00:53:57.33
And it says, "The angel of the
Lord encamps around those who
00:53:57.37\00:54:01.27
serve him." So angels do, I
think, surround and protect.
00:54:01.30\00:54:04.67
They can drive away evil angels.
00:54:04.71\00:54:06.71
Angels can die.
00:54:06.74\00:54:09.18
I don't think they kill each
other, but in the end, Satan and
00:54:09.21\00:54:11.71
his angels are cast into
the lake of fire, and they're
00:54:11.75\00:54:15.22
ultimately burned up.
00:54:15.25\00:54:16.58
They're destroyed, and they'll
never be anymore, it says
00:54:16.62\00:54:19.65
in Ezekiel.
00:54:19.69\00:54:20.99
So, hope that helps a little,
Derek, and I hope you call
00:54:21.02\00:54:23.16
again, thank you for listening.
00:54:23.19\00:54:24.66
Jëan: Stephanie in
California has a question.
00:54:24.69\00:54:26.49
Stephanie,
welcome to the program.
00:54:26.53\00:54:27.83
Stephanie: Oh, hi, thank you.
00:54:27.86\00:54:30.73
I had a question, and actually,
somebody previously asked about
00:54:30.77\00:54:35.37
the drone, so my question
is, what does the Bible say
00:54:35.40\00:54:39.61
about aliens?
00:54:39.64\00:54:40.98
Doug: All right, does the Bible
say anything about aliens or
00:54:41.01\00:54:43.71
life on other planets?
00:54:43.75\00:54:45.05
I would say yes.
00:54:45.08\00:54:46.48
First of all, when you think
about the infinite size of the
00:54:46.51\00:54:49.88
cosmos, and, you know, just our,
our solar system is huge, and
00:54:49.92\00:54:57.53
then our solar system has
one sun that is one star in one
00:54:57.56\00:55:03.73
galaxy called the Milky Way
Galaxy that is like a hundred
00:55:03.77\00:55:07.50
light years across.
00:55:07.54\00:55:09.67
So, you know, they--thats means,
He traveled the speed of light
00:55:09.70\00:55:13.98
for a hundred
years to get across it.
00:55:14.01\00:55:16.11
There's so many stars out there.
00:55:16.14\00:55:17.48
Is there other intelligent life?
00:55:17.51\00:55:18.98
Oh, I believe
absolutely there is.
00:55:19.01\00:55:21.55
So, and you read in
the Bible, it says, what?
00:55:21.58\00:55:24.92
Hebrews chapter, is it chapter
1, verse 2? That "God through
00:55:24.95\00:55:28.46
Christ made the world."
00:55:28.49\00:55:30.69
There are other worlds.
00:55:30.73\00:55:32.66
And then you read in Revelation
about every creature in heaven
00:55:32.69\00:55:36.10
and those creatures on earth.
00:55:36.13\00:55:38.20
So, God has unfallen,
intelligent creatures that are
00:55:38.23\00:55:41.44
out there in the
cosmos that have not sinned.
00:55:41.47\00:55:44.91
Humans and angels are not the
only thing that God has made.
00:55:44.94\00:55:48.84
I believe that, you
know, the universe is infinite.
00:55:48.88\00:55:52.15
God did not just start creating
creatures with man 6,000
00:55:52.18\00:55:57.09
years ago.
00:55:57.12\00:55:58.45
I think that we are quarantined
because of sin, and once sin is
00:55:58.49\00:56:02.22
dealt with, we'll once again
be able to interact with these
00:56:02.26\00:56:06.26
unfallen beings.
00:56:06.29\00:56:07.96
So, yes, I think there is
intelligent life out there.
00:56:07.96\00:56:11.53
When people say they've
been captured by aliens, that I
00:56:11.57\00:56:14.90
doubt, unless they had some
kind of a demonic experience.
00:56:14.94\00:56:18.11
I don't think the unfallen
worlds are allowed to interact
00:56:18.14\00:56:21.01
with human beings right now
because we've got this disease
00:56:21.04\00:56:24.98
of sin, and the only ones
involved in the hospital right
00:56:25.01\00:56:28.32
now are God the Father, the
Son, and the Holy Spirit, and
00:56:28.35\00:56:32.55
the angels.
00:56:32.59\00:56:33.89
They're the hospital staff.
00:56:33.92\00:56:35.36
Everyone else has to wait
until we're purified from sin.
00:56:35.39\00:56:38.49
Jëan: Our next caller
that we have is Jim in Nevada.
00:56:38.53\00:56:40.66
Jim, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:56:40.70\00:56:43.47
Jim: Thanks, Pastor Ross,
my question is pretty simple.
00:56:43.50\00:56:47.60
The Bible says that God
is sovereign and that He has
00:56:47.64\00:56:52.81
control over all things.
00:56:52.84\00:56:54.78
So in that sense, do we
really have genuine free will?
00:56:54.81\00:56:59.25
Doug: Good question.
00:56:59.28\00:57:00.88
I do believe that God is,
ultimately, He's all powerful,
00:57:00.92\00:57:05.09
but a part of His control
is He has chosen to give His
00:57:05.12\00:57:09.26
creatures, in order to love
Him, we need to have a choice.
00:57:09.29\00:57:12.33
If we're forced to love Him,
that's not real love, that's
00:57:12.36\00:57:15.93
just preprogramming.
00:57:15.96\00:57:17.50
Love must come from an
intelligent choice, and so, He
00:57:17.53\00:57:20.67
gives His
creatures freedom to choose.
00:57:20.70\00:57:23.17
He may know what we're going to
choose, but we are truly free to
00:57:23.20\00:57:25.64
make that decision, and I think
that's the most important thing.
00:57:25.67\00:57:30.78
That's why there's sin in the
world is because of the choice
00:57:30.81\00:57:32.98
of the devil to rebel and the
choice of some creatures in this
00:57:33.01\00:57:36.72
world, or most creatures in this
world, to listen to the devil
00:57:36.75\00:57:40.22
instead of listen to God.
00:57:40.26\00:57:41.82
So, yes, God gives us free will,
and that's why the Bible says,
00:57:41.86\00:57:45.26
"Whosoever will, let him come
and take the water of life,"
00:57:45.29\00:57:49.40
whosoever believes in Him,
we can choose to believe, and
00:57:49.43\00:57:52.30
that's the good news, friends.
00:57:52.33\00:57:53.67
I hope everyone out there has
made that choice, to believe in
00:57:53.70\00:57:56.54
Jesus, accept Him as your
Savior, give Him your heart.
00:57:56.57\00:57:59.91
He's got a big
plan for your life.
00:57:59.94\00:58:01.61
We'll study again
together next week, God bless.
00:58:01.64\00:58:04.68
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