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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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Doug Batchelor: Hello friends,
would you like to hear an
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amazing fact?
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We've all heard about various
kinds of plagues throughout
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history, the Black Death or
bubonic plague, smallpox, and
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the Spanish flu, but
have you ever heard about the
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dancing plague?
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The dancing plague of 1518 was
an event in which hundreds of
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citizens of Strasbourg, a
city by the border of France and
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Germany, danced uncontrollably,
and apparently unwillingly, for
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days on end.
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The outbreak began in July,
1518, when a woman called Frau
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Troffea stepped from her home
and began to dance fervently and
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uncontrollably in the street.
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Within a week, more than
30 other people were affected.
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This number
eventually grew to 400.
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People overcome by the dancing
plague would suddenly start
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stomping their feet, twitching
and flaying their limbs.
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Oblivious to the world around
them, they'd keep dancing until
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they collapsed from exhaustion.
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Many suffered from heart
attacks or strokes and died.
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It seems there was nothing the
city fathers could do to stop
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the compulsion.
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The mania lasted for about
two months before ending as
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mysteriously as it began.
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Today, nobody is exactly sure
what caused the phenomenon, but
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experts believe the most
likely explanation was ergot.
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Ergot is a fungus that
grows on white, rye, or wheat.
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Poisoning from this mold can
cause muscle spasms, fever, and
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hallucinations, and the victims
might appear dazed and manic.
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By the way, the chemical
in ergot mold is similar to
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lysergic acid diethylamide,
better known as LSD.
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Evidently, when people of
Strasbourg finished consuming
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the batch of bad
grain, the plague soon ended.
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It's surprising, Pastor Ross,
how much what we eat can affect
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our behavior.
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Jëan Ross: That's right, and
affects the mind and the way we
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behave and think, and it's quite
a test, quite a story there.
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I mean, you think of plagues
and, you know, people get sick
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and, you know, they
die from whatever disease.
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Here the people just got
all this energy and they start
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jumping around and dancing, and
you mentioned that some people
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die from--they died from
a heart attack as a result
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of this.
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Doug: They just, their hearts--
I think the lady that began
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dancing was in her twenties.
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She'd collapse at the end of the
day and then she'd wake up the
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next day and
start dancing again.
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And not only what you eat
physically can affect your
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behavior, but certainly what
you eat spiritually can affect
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your behavior.
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By the way, you're from Africa,
they have something they're
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called sleeping sickness, where
people get bit--if they get bit
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by a--Jëan: Yeah, I'm
not exactly sure whether it's
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bacteria or virus or something,
but yeah, people just--if they
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sit still for too
long, they just fall asleep.
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Doug: Yeah, so, yeah, these
outside influences can have
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a difference.
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And what we eat, what we
consume spiritually, can affect
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our behavior.
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And there's a Bible verse
in Isaiah chapter 55, it says,
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this is verse 2, "Why do you
spend your money for that which
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is not bread, and your
wages for what does not satisfy?
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Listen carefully to me, and eat
what is good, and let your soul
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delight itself in abundance."
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We need to make sure that we're
eating good spiritual food if we
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want to have the
right spiritual behavior.
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Jëan: And you know, Jesus said
something similar when He said,
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"It is written, 'Man shall
not live by bread alone, but by
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every Word that proceeds
out of the mouth of God.'"
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That is Matthew chapter
4, verse 4--so if we can grow
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spiritually, we have to feed
upon that living bread which is
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the Word of God.
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Doug: Yeah, and you know, what
we eat--they say you are what
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you eat.
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It's true physically, you know,
everything in our bodies is sort
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of replaced by what we eat
over, I think it takes several
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months for your cells to, sort
of, replace, and you become what
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you consume.
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Well, that is true
of your spiritual life.
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And if we're feeding on the
the diet of the world and the
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worldly entertainment, it's hard
to resist temptation when you
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have your values being shaped
and fashioned by the wrong kind
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of spiritual food.
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So, the right kind of food
would, well, begin with the Word
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of God.
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Well, Pastor Doug, before we
go to the phone lines, we always
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like to start with
prayer, so let's do that now.
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Dear Father, we thank You
once again that we have this
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opportunity to study Your Word.
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We ask Your blessing upon those
who are listening, wherever they
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might be.
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Father, Your Word is life, as
we were just talking about the
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spiritual life that
comes from Your Word.
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And so strengthen us and feed us
on the Scriptures tonight, for
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we ask this in
Jesus's name, amen.
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Well, our first caller is
Shelby, listening in Arkansas.
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Shelby, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Shelby: Good evening,
how are you guys doing?
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Doug: Doing good,
thanks so much for calling.
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Shelby: Yes, sir, Pastor Doug,
I'm just--I'm looking here in
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Genesis chapter 9, verse 3, and
I'm reading out of the New King
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James Version.
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That's the version of the
Bible I have and it says, "Every
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moving thing that
lives shall be food for you."
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And before I get on this, I just
want you--I would like you to
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shed some light on that, but I
just want to note really fast, I
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just find it very interesting
that if you flip over to Genesis
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chapter 7, verse 2, and of
course, we see that perfect
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number here, seven, it says,
"You shall take with you seven
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each of every clean animal,
a male and his female, but then
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you shall take two of
each of the unclean animals."
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Now, I just want to note really
fast before you do this, this is
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long before--this is post-flood
here of Noah in chapter 9, so
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this is long before the dietary
laws are passed down to the
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children of Israel
in Leviticus chapter 11.
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Doug: Yeah, well, first of all,
God makes a distinction between
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the clean and the
unclean, as you mentioned.
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The clean animals are taken on
the ark in sevens, the unclean
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animals are taken by two, and
if you think about it, if people
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were allowed to eat the unclean
animals, they would have been
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extinct very quickly.
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The clean animals were the
thing that was not only allowed
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for consumption.
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And don't forget the one who
writes Genesis, Moses, is the
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same one who writes Deuteronomy
and Leviticus, where he said,
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"You shall not eat
any detestable thing."
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So when he said, "Everything
that moves will be food for
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you," it meant among the fish
there were clean foods, among
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the birds there were clean
foods, among the mammals there
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were clean foods, but he had
already identified which were to
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be eaten.
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So, it was never God's will
for people to eat skunks and
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cockroaches and vultures, and I
mean, they're obviously animals
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that are creatures of carrion
and that's why He said these
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are detestable.
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And He specifies that because
all the vegetation had been
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destroyed during the flood,
they were permitted to eat the
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clean animals.
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So, yeah, it was never God's
will for them to eat everything.
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When He makes that statement
there in Genesis 9, he's talking
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about the clean animals that
had been identified earlier.
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Jëan: You know, it's also
interesting, Pastor Doug, that
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you have mention of clean and
unclean animals, not only here,
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but in order to have the
sacrificial system which was
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implemented right after the fall
with Adam and Eve, there needed
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to be a distinction of animals
because not all animals were
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acceptable as sacrifice,
only the clean animals.
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So Adam, right from Adam
onwards, there was a distinction
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made between that which
was clean and that which
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was unclean.
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And this was just re-articulated
once again, just after the
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flood, when there was no
vegetation for them to eat.
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Doug: Absolutely.
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We got Brittany
listening in California.
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Brittany, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Brittany: Yeah, my question
is, "What style of music is
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considered appropriate for
the Christian in today's world?"
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Doug: All right, well, the
principles for Christian music
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have always been the
same, that doesn't change.
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I mean, culture changes
and some styles change, but the
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principles wouldn't change.
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It's like the principles
for clothing, the styles of
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clothing, colors of clothing,
that may change, but the
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principles of cleanliness,
modesty, so forth, that
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doesn't change.
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Music is probably one of
the most difficult questions
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to specify.
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It's like we had a
question before about clean and
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unclean foods.
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Well, God gives some guidelines.
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He says, you know, "Birds had
to be foraging birds, the fish
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needed fins and scales, mammals
needed clove and hoof, chew
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the cud."
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So what are the
guidelines now for music?
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Well, that's a little more--
well, what do you say, a little
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more subjective, but
here's the principles.
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The words need to be
words of truth that glorify God.
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They need to be
positive, good words.
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Is this something that God can
bless in the words, the message?
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Then there's music that
is for different occasions.
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No matter where you go in the
world, lullabies are usually the
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mothers singing to a baby, it's
going to be sweet, it's going
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to be soft, it's going to be
rhythmic, so that the baby will
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go to sleep.
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War music or marching
music is going to be different.
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It's the kind of thing that
you would play, it's a little
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louder, a little more, you know,
to get the soldiers to march,
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and there's several battle songs
and victory songs in the Psalms.
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So usually, matter of fact,
the last, I think, four or five
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Psalms are talking about,
"Shout to the Lord, make a loud
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noise," and
they're like victory songs.
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When the women came out to meet
David and Saul, when they came
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out with Miriam, the
music they led was a celebration
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of victory.
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That's a different kind of
music, Jethro's daughter came
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out singing that kind of song.
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And then there's romantic music.
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That--if there's a place,
you get the Song of Solomon, and
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there's a place for that.
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But Christian music, you know,
it's the kind of thing that's
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going to be exalting God.
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It doesn't need to be--people
think that to praise God, the
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louder it is, the more
praiseworthy it is, and that's
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just not true.
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Christian music is
going to be inspirational.
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You have to ask yourself, "Is
this something that Jesus would
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listen to?
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Can you picture
Jesus singing this?"
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And a Christian is
a follower of Christ.
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A lot of the music of the
world, it just sounds like pagan
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pandemonium, it's confusion
and chaos, it's like the
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Babylonian music.
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Jëan: And that's a good
point, Pastor Doug, that
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you mentioned.
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There are certain types of music
that are used that go back way
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in primitive cultures in
witchcraft and demonic worship,
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and even in voodoo type
ceremonies with this very heavy
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beat that just keeps going, this
rhythmic--kind of works people
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up into a frenzy.
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That style of music shouldn't
have any part to do with
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Christian music because of where
it comes from, what it's used
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for, it's not drawing you closer
to God, but it's almost putting
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people in a trance,
like a type of hypnosis.
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And I think Christians need to
avoid that, stay away from that.
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Doug: Yeah, and then the other
thing is you look at how people
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dance to certain kinds of music.
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The kind of dance they would
do at a Hebrew wedding where the
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men are dancing, usually they
just dance with the men and then
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women dance with the women.
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It's very different from the
music where men and women are
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dancing together, it's extremely
sexually suggestive, and that
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ought to tell you
something right there.
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I've seen churches before where
they're playing music that would
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normally be in a nightclub, they
throw in a few Christian words
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and they call it Christian
music, but when I was in the
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world, it was nightclub music.
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So yeah, it's hard to
know where to draw that line.
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But, you know, I have a book,
and I think it's small enough we
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can offer it to
those that are interested.
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It's called "The
Christian and Music."
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Jëan: That's right, sounds
like a great book dealing with
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the subject.
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Call and ask, the
number is 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the book, it's
called "Christian and Music," or
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dial pound 250 and ask
for it by name, "The Music and
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the Christian."
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All right, next caller that
we have is Jackson in Alabama.
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Jackson, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Jackson: Amen, In 1 Corinthians
chapter 15, it talks about once
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Jesus has all things
under His feet that He will give
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everything back to the Father,
and the Bible says that Jesus is
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God, so I was just wondering how
does Him giving the authority
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back to the Father
relate to His deity.
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Doug: Jesus being God does
not mean that there is not an
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attitude of submission between
the members of the deity.
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When Christ comes into the
world, He says, you know, "All
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authority is given Me by the
Father, God the Father, Soul of
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the World."
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He gave His Son, and so you see,
the Father seems to be portrayed
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in the Bible, more so in the
New Testament, as the ultimate
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authority, that there's like
a voluntary submission and yet
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there's equality.
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So God, the Father, Son,
and Spirit, are all-knowing,
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omnipresent, all-powerful, but
that doesn't mean that you don't
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see that there is some
submission on the part of
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the Son to the Father.
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The Father delegates all
creation to the Son, all things
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that are made
are made by the Son.
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And all judgment
is given to the Son.
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The Father has given
all judgment to the Son.
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So you see the Father all
through the New Testament giving
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things to the Son, but
that doesn't mean that Jesus is
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a lesser God.
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And so I know that sometimes
it's hard for us to comprehend a
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husband and wife are
equal, of equal value.
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But the Bible says that the
husband is to be the head, and
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the wife is to be, and needs
to be the, you know, the support
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and to protect his wife.
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But in the family, the authority
is generally in the Bible
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acknowledged with the Father.
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So I don't know if that helps
with the question, Jackson.
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Is that getting me anywhere?
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Jackson: Yeah, like, that's
how I read it in the Bible too.
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Just, you know, they have
different parts of them and
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Christ has that submission,
but somebody had brought that
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Scripture up and I hadn't looked
at that before, so that helps,
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thank you.
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Doug: Yeah, and when Jesus--you
see through the parables that it
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says He was sent by the
Father to receive a kingdom.
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When He ascends to heaven He
is declared by the Father, His
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sacrifice is complete and
successful, and then He comes
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again at the end of the
one thousand years, and He's
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ultimately the king of the world
when there's a new heaven and
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new earth.
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So there's, like--there's a
progress that happens in His
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redeeming the kingdom because
He created it, He dies for it,
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He redeems it.
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And that's, you know, His
role is a little different than
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the Father's.
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Jëan: All right,
thank you, Jackson.
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We got Larry in Arkansas.
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Larry, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Larry: Yeah, Revelations 20,
the angel that had the keys to
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the bottomless pit and
he incarcerates Satan for a
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thousand years and replaces
the seal, and that says he
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received the nation no more for
a thousand years, but then he
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is released for a season and
I'm wondering why he would be
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released after being
incarcerated for a thousand
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years and what would
"for a little season" mean?
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Doug: All right,
that's good, that's really an
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important question.
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So, if finally we're in heaven,
we've been raptured up, we're
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with the Lord in heaven, and
we spent a thousand years living
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and reigning with the Lord,
Satan is bound, why would He let
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him out?
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Well, if you go back in the
great controversy between Christ
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and the devil, Satan was
the highest of the angels.
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In other words, he was
just below Jesus in power.
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He was the highest of all
created beings, and he rebelled
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and made terrible
accusations against God.
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So now, you know, God's been
merciful with humans and that He
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gives us a probation, a
time to have a change of heart.
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After the devil has a
thousand years to look at this
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desolation he's caused in our
world through his government,
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the Lord releases him to
demonstrate that instead of
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repenting, it's says, "Satan
goes to gather all of the," it
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calls them Gog and Magog, "the
enemies of God's people, the
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wicked that are resurrected,"
he goes to gather them to battle
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against God.
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He hasn't changed, God is
showing the unfallen angels in
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the universe that this once
glorious angel has fallen and he
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has no
redeemable qualities left.
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God has no alternative but to
destroy him, cast him into the
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lake of fire.
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So, it's not just for the
benefit of humanity to see that
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the devil's not
going to turn around.
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People that we see that are
lost, God is showing, even after
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they've been resurrected in the
judgment, they're still willing
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to listen to the
devil instead of repent.
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So it's to demonstrate that
God has no alternative, He's
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very patient.
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Jëan: And you know, if you
read on in the chapter, there's
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a lot that happens there.
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You have, as you mentioned,
Pastor, like, the righteous in
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heaven for a thousand years,
the wicked, they destroyed the
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brightness of Christ's coming,
so the devil and his angels are
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bound to this dark, desolate
world, otherwise known as the
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bottomless pit, symbolized
here in Revelation chapter 20.
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And then at the end of
the thousand years, the New
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Jerusalem comes down from
heaven, that's Revelation 21.
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The devil then is released from
his so-called prison because now
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the wicked are resurrected,
so he has somebody to tempt.
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And it says he goes out and
gathers together the nations,
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the golden city is there, the
Bible says they encompassed the
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golden city and
they mount their attack.
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Of course, just before this,
we have what we call the Great
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White Throne judgment, where
everyone has an opportunity to
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see the justice of God and
that God is fair and everyone
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acknowledges the justice of God.
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But then the devil leads
the wicked and they mount their
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attack upon the New Jerusalem,
and that's where fire comes,
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devours them, and then God
creates the new heavens and
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a new earth.
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So the phrase there, "a little
season," the Bible doesn't tell
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us what that is.
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There's a lot
that happens though.
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It seems like it's going to be
more than a couple of hours or
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maybe even more
than a couple of days.
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It might drag on for a while,
but it's little in comparison to
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the rest of time of
people living on the earth, so--
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we do have a study guide.
00:19:51.15\00:19:52.49
It's called "1000 Years of
Peace," and it talks about this
00:19:52.52\00:19:54.79
and we'll be happy to send
it to anyone who calls and asks.
00:19:54.82\00:19:57.29
The number is 800-835-6747.
00:19:57.33\00:20:00.93
Ask for the study guide "1000
Years of Peace," you can dial
00:20:00.96\00:20:04.47
pound 250 on your smartphone,
say "Bible Answers Live," and
00:20:04.50\00:20:08.30
then ask for that study guide
by name, "1000 Years of Peace."
00:20:08.34\00:20:12.27
You'll actually be able to get a
digital download if you use your
00:20:12.31\00:20:15.58
cell phone, just dial pound 250.
00:20:15.61\00:20:18.55
Next caller that we
have is Jet in Florida.
00:20:18.58\00:20:20.88
Jet, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Jet: Hi, Pastor Doug.
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Doug: Hi Jet, thanks
for calling, and your
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question tonight?
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Jet: Does the Bible say
that Jonah died in the belly of
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the whale and then rose again?
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Doug: No, the Bible doesn't
say he died in the belly of
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the whale.
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I'm sure he's dead now, but,
it tells us he was alive in the
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belly of the whale because he
prays from the fish's belly and
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there's nothing in the
text that says that he dies.
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It is a symbol, you know,
when you're three days and three
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nights in the darkness, it's
kind of a symbol of like Jesus's
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suffering and
death and resurrection.
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What Jonah went through, Jesus
said, "No sign will be given but
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the sign of Jonah," but Jonah
miraculously somehow survived
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and there's stories in history
of a couple of people that have
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been swallowed
by whales and lived.
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In fact, there's a YouTube of
a kayaker that gets swallowed by
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a whale and gets spit out
again when he's out up in Alaska
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there somewhere.
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Someone got that on camera,
but he was only in the belly of
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the--he didn't go all
the way to the belly, he was
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in the mouth of the
whale for about five seconds.
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Anyway, thanks
Jet, appreciate it.
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And we do have a book called
"The Sign of Jonah" we'll send
00:21:36.12\00:21:38.49
you that's got some of the
history we just talked about.
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Jëan: The number to call
for that is 800-835-6747.
00:21:40.80\00:21:44.93
You can ask for the book.
00:21:44.97\00:21:46.30
It's called "The Sign of
Jonah" or, as we mentioned, dial
00:21:46.33\00:21:48.27
pound 250.
00:21:48.30\00:21:49.77
Say "Bible Answers Live"
and ask for the book by name.
00:21:49.80\00:21:52.97
Next caller that we
have is Glenn in Ohio.
00:21:53.01\00:21:55.58
Glenn, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Glenn: Thank you very
much for taking my call.
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You know, Yeshua led a life
wonderfully, showing us the path
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to the
redemption of Matthew 24:13.
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And the point that I'm
addressing tonight is the born
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again experience that He had.
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According to Peter
in Colossians, it was
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a resurrection.
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It takes to my question tonight,
taking into consideration 1 John
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5:18A, where does it say in
the Bible that one is born again
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at conversion?
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Doug: All right, thank you.
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Well, the phrase "born again" is
used twice in the Bible, once in
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John 3:3 and once in John 3:7.
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Peter alludes to it when he says
in 1 Peter 1:23, "Having been
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born again, not of corruptible
seed, but incorruptible, through
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the Word of God that
lives and abides forever."
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The new birth, something
like a physical birth, you have
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conception and there might
be a period of gestation where
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the Holy
Spirit's working on you.
00:23:02.81\00:23:04.58
Very few people have a dramatic
instant born again experience
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like Paul does on the road
to Damascus, and that is in Acts
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chapter 9--8--
Acts chapter 8, I think.
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Is that right?
00:23:17.19\00:23:18.49
Jëan: Let me look it up?
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Doug: Yeah, and I think it's
Acts chapter 9, is where you
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have the conversion of Paul.
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But his is very instant,
and where Jesus is talking to
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Nicodemus, He says, "You must be
born again," He's talking about
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your heart needs to be changed.
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When God says, "I'll put a
new heart within you," that
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is conversion.
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And in the New Covenant,
God writes His law in our heart.
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Ezekiel talks about,
"I'll put a new heart in you."
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Moses talks about the
circumcision of the heart.
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So when the heart is
changed, that is synonymous with
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the new birth.
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Jëan: Yeah, the chapter you're
thinking of, Acts chapter 9, you
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read from verse 1 all the way
through verse 19, he's on the
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road to Damascus and then also
he repeats--Paul repeats that
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testimony, his testimony,
in Acts 22, verse 6 through 16.
00:24:00.47\00:24:04.64
So there, very
powerful conversion that took
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place there.
00:24:06.81\00:24:08.14
Doug: But with most
people, it's something that
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happens gradually.
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You're hearing the Word, the
Word is sprouting, something's
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happening, and finally you come
to the conclusion, "I'm going to
00:24:13.48\00:24:16.45
make a surrender."
00:24:16.48\00:24:17.82
So when you make that surrender
because your heart has been
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transformed and you give
everything to the Lord and trust
00:24:20.02\00:24:23.59
in His sacrifice, repent of your
sins, that's a new birth, and
00:24:23.63\00:24:29.00
there should be a
change in direction.
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That's what conversion
means, you're doing a U-turn.
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Jëan: All right, next
caller that we have is Charles
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in California.
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Charles, welcome to
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Charles: God bless you both.
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Two part question, do you know
about what year, how long ago,
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the Bible was written, and also,
can we prove the accuracy of the
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Bible and prove that
Christianity is the true
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religion of God?
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Doug: All right, thank you.
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Well, I obviously think there's
proof because I'm hanging my
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life on that and I used to be an
atheist, and through reading the
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Bible I believe the
evidence was so compelling.
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There's no ancient document
that is better substantiated
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than the Bible.
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Now, when we say Bible, and
you say, "When was the Bible
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written," keep in mind the
word "Bible" comes from the word
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"biblios," which used to be
the word for "book" or "books,"
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because the Bible is a
collection of 66 books, and
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you've got the 27 in
the New Testament, 39 in
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the Old Testament.
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The Old Testament was written
over a period of 1500 years.
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Well, the whole
Bible over 1500 years.
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The Old Testament was written
starting with Moses about 1400
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BC and up until about 400 BC,
where the last book written by
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Malachi, The New Testament
didn't start really being
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written, the life of Christ, I
think they say about 40 AD Mark
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wrote his gospel.
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And then the other New Testament
writers between 40 AD and 100,
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the Book of Revelation,
100 AD, was the last book.
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As far as its accuracy, the
accuracy of the Old Testament, I
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think, has been proved beyond
question with the discovery of
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the Dead Sea Scrolls that
contained copies of the Old
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Testament that pre-dated Jesus.
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And they have been carefully
scrutinized, it had parts of
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every book in the Bible, except
the book of Esther, and it
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probably was out there
somewhere, but they never
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found it.
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And when they compare those
texts, 2000 years old, with
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modern versions,
they're, like, 98% identical.
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Any difference
was just very minor.
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You'd appreciate a book we've
got that we're offering tonight,
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"The Ultimate Resource."
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We'd be happy to send you
a free copy of that, Charles.
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Just go to the website and
request that, and we'll send
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that to you.
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Jëan: My name is Jëan Ross and
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Pastor Doug, Sandry is asking,
she obviously has read your
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book, and she says, "How long
was it from the time that you
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were baptized, living in the
cave, until you quit smoking?"
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Doug: Okay, some people that
have read my testimony, you've
00:33:51.53\00:33:54.20
heard it online, that I
was baptized a little too soon.
00:33:54.20\00:33:58.53
I was living up in the mountains
in a cave and some Calvary
00:33:58.57\00:34:02.80
Baptist gentlemen hiked by and
they asked if I was a Christian
00:34:02.84\00:34:05.91
and I said, "I just accepted
Jesus from reading the Bible
00:34:05.94\00:34:09.38
someone left in the cave," and
they said, "Oh, you got to get
00:34:09.41\00:34:11.21
baptized," and I really didn't
know what I was getting into,
00:34:11.25\00:34:13.88
and so they baptized me.
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I'm still smoking, drinking,
using drugs, and anyway--but I
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didn't quit smoking, I don't
think, for another probably two,
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two and a half years, and
I was re-baptized in Northern
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California and
I've not smoked since.
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So you want to have these
addictions behind you, but don't
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let my two and a half years
give you an excuse to wait.
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Today is the day,
if you hear his voice.
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Jëan: All right, we have
another person who emailed us.
00:34:39.57\00:34:41.98
We have Lizlyn, who is asking,
"Would you kindly explain
00:34:42.01\00:34:45.61
Revelation 8:1?
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What is the reason for a half
an hour of silence in heaven?"
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Doug: Yeah,
that's a great question.
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Well, you know, God is typically
surrounded by angels that are
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giving Him glory and singing,
and but when Christ comes, it
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says He's coming with all of the
angels to redeem or to rescue
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and, during the Second Coming,
so the saints are called up to
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meet Him in the air.
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That's probably because heaven's
been emptied by everyone coming
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to save--or for the
resurrection, Second Coming
00:35:16.38\00:35:20.62
of Christ.
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And it says, "About
the space of half an hour."
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Now, if a day is a year in
prophecy, and there are 360 days
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in a Jewish year, 15
days would be an hour.
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Half of 15 days would be--or
half an hour would be about
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seven days.
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So that's a nice Bible number.
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So, we think that that's
the seven day period when Christ
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leaves heaven, comes to earth,
rescues, and raptures, and
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brings us back to the kingdom.
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Jëan: All right, final
email question, Pastor Doug.
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Chris is asking, "Why did
the demons demand to go into the
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pigs if the pigs were going
to be killed right after they
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possessed them?"
00:36:00.82\00:36:02.52
Doug: Well, the devils are
thinking they've outsmarted
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the Lord.
00:36:05.16\00:36:06.49
The devil wanted to get the
community to drive Jesus away,
00:36:06.53\00:36:09.26
which worked.
00:36:09.30\00:36:10.63
What happened
is--but their plan backfired.
00:36:10.67\00:36:14.34
When Jesus cast a legion,
thousands of devils, out of this
00:36:14.37\00:36:19.47
man, this one man, and the devil
said, "Don't cast us into the
00:36:19.51\00:36:22.64
abyssos, " into the nothingness,
"but cast us into this herd of
00:36:22.68\00:36:25.18
pigs," that was up on the hill.
00:36:25.21\00:36:26.78
There was about 2000 of them,
the book of Matthew tells us,
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and Jesus said, "Go."
00:36:29.85\00:36:31.19
The pigs went out of the man--
or the demons went out of the
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man, went into this herd of
pigs, the pigs went berserk,
00:36:33.32\00:36:36.73
and they stampede off a
cliff into the Sea of Galilee.
00:36:36.76\00:36:40.16
Well, the people in the area--
this was a financial, not only
00:36:40.20\00:36:44.00
called a toxic waste dump, but
it it was a financial disaster
00:36:44.03\00:36:48.20
for them because
they were raising them.
00:36:48.24\00:36:50.67
This is a city, Decapolis,
they're not all Jews in the
00:36:50.71\00:36:53.88
area, and they were raising
the pigs for food, you know.
00:36:53.91\00:36:57.81
And that 2000 pigs, that
was just--they said, "Jesus,
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please leave.
00:37:01.25\00:37:02.58
It costs too much
having you around."
00:37:02.62\00:37:04.35
So Jesus left.
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But what ended up happening
is this man who's converted, he
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went everywhere and told
how Jesus saved him from demons.
00:37:08.69\00:37:11.73
And those 2000 pigs that drowned
began to float all over a great
00:37:11.76\00:37:15.83
big Jewish lake, and everybody
in Israel heard about the
00:37:15.86\00:37:19.23
miracle because of
what happened with the pigs.
00:37:19.27\00:37:22.74
So, all three Gospels of
Matthew, Mark, and Luke tell
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this story of the demoniac,
because, probably they all knew
00:37:25.94\00:37:31.11
about the toxic spill of
pork chops floating in the Sea
00:37:31.15\00:37:34.85
of Galilee.
00:37:34.88\00:37:36.18
So, Jesus turned the devil's
plan back on them, and when
00:37:36.22\00:37:39.19
Christ came back to that
area, they were all ready to
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receive Him.
00:37:41.86\00:37:43.19
Jëan: Okay, we have
Ely listening in Kansas.
00:37:43.22\00:37:46.03
Ely, welcome to the program.
00:37:46.06\00:37:47.60
Ely: Yeah, it's just a
quick question, when it says to
00:37:47.66\00:37:51.43
be perfect.
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So in 1 Peter 1:16 says that "Be
a saint because I am saint," and
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too much people have said that
you have to be perfect, and also
00:38:00.41\00:38:04.41
in the other verse that said
that, "If you are not saint, you
00:38:04.45\00:38:08.82
can't see God when He returns."
00:38:08.85\00:38:11.52
Like, what does that mean?
00:38:11.55\00:38:12.89
Doug: Yeah, how perfect
does a Christian need to be?
00:38:12.92\00:38:16.29
First of all, I'll give you
an answer, but make sure anybody
00:38:16.32\00:38:19.76
that wants to know about this,
the best book on that, Amazing
00:38:19.79\00:38:22.43
Facts carries, and
we'll send it to you free.
00:38:22.46\00:38:25.20
"Is it Possible to
Live Without Sinning?"
00:38:25.23\00:38:28.20
And it's an amazing book by
Joe Crews and it has a really
00:38:28.24\00:38:31.61
balanced approach.
00:38:31.64\00:38:33.07
Now, everything depends on
"What do you mean by perfect?"
00:38:33.11\00:38:36.31
Some people think, "Well,
perfect," they picture you've
00:38:36.34\00:38:39.05
got this sterile,
stainless-steel robot that is,
00:38:39.08\00:38:42.05
you know, just walking through
society, no temptation, and
00:38:42.08\00:38:46.15
no flaws.
00:38:46.19\00:38:48.29
Is that what it's saying?
00:38:48.32\00:38:49.62
Now, Jesus says in Matthew,
"Be therefore perfect, as your
00:38:49.66\00:38:52.33
Father in heaven is perfect."
00:38:52.36\00:38:54.10
The context of what he's talking
about is loving your neighbor.
00:38:54.10\00:38:56.90
He's talking about perfect love.
00:38:56.93\00:38:58.70
If you read the same thing that
Christ says in Luke, look at
00:38:58.73\00:39:01.47
Luke 6:36, He says, "Therefore
be merciful, even as your Father
00:39:01.50\00:39:06.54
in heaven."
00:39:06.57\00:39:07.91
God wants us to have perfect
mercy, patience, and love, and
00:39:07.94\00:39:09.91
forgiveness for others.
00:39:09.94\00:39:11.48
Jesus said, "If we don't love
and forgive others, then God
00:39:11.51\00:39:14.48
is not going to forgive us."
00:39:14.52\00:39:15.95
And so with the Holy Spirit, we
can really love people, we can
00:39:15.98\00:39:19.65
forgive people, and God
wants us to have that attitude.
00:39:19.69\00:39:24.56
God is love, if we don't learn
to love, then we can't be in the
00:39:24.59\00:39:29.16
kingdom, because
everyone there is loving.
00:39:29.20\00:39:31.90
Now, when you think about
perfection, you know, whenever
00:39:31.93\00:39:34.34
we have an anointing service, we
read from James where he talks
00:39:34.37\00:39:38.81
about praying, and God will hear
your prayers and believe and
00:39:38.84\00:39:41.78
don't think you have
to be perfect to have your
00:39:41.81\00:39:43.81
prayers heard.
00:39:43.85\00:39:45.15
Look at how God answered the
prayers of Elijah, who goes to
00:39:45.18\00:39:48.55
heaven in a fiery chariot,
so we know he's making it
00:39:48.58\00:39:50.65
to heaven.
00:39:50.69\00:39:51.92
He made it already, and He says,
"Yet he was a man subject to the
00:39:51.95\00:39:54.72
same weakness and
temptations that we are."
00:39:54.76\00:39:57.89
Now, he overcame, but Elijah got
discouraged, Elijah had some ups
00:39:57.93\00:40:02.53
and downs, he misunderstood
God and ran from Jezebel.
00:40:02.56\00:40:06.27
So, God is telling us, "Don't
get discouraged if you look in
00:40:06.30\00:40:09.24
the mirror and you say, 'I'm
just--I don't know how God's
00:40:09.27\00:40:11.57
going to save me.
00:40:11.61\00:40:12.91
I'm so selfish, I've
got all these problems."'
00:40:12.94\00:40:15.78
If you look at
yourself, you're going to think,
00:40:15.81\00:40:17.45
how can I be saved?
00:40:17.48\00:40:19.18
If you look at Jesus,
you'll think, how can I be lost?
00:40:19.21\00:40:22.32
Because He is so good, He is so
loving, He has done so much to
00:40:22.35\00:40:25.89
save us.
00:40:25.92\00:40:27.22
So, what does it mean
to be a perfect Christian?
00:40:27.26\00:40:29.76
It means have the same kind of
love and faith of walking with
00:40:29.79\00:40:34.10
God like Enoch, believing
and praying to God like Elijah,
00:40:34.13\00:40:38.73
trusting in the Lord like David,
and standing up for God like
00:40:38.77\00:40:42.14
Daniel, Hananiah,
Mishael, and Azariah.
00:40:42.17\00:40:45.27
And you can do that, we can
be like those people, and God's
00:40:45.31\00:40:49.18
calling us to that.
00:40:49.21\00:40:50.71
And don't get discouraged.
00:40:50.75\00:40:52.05
God--keep in mind, friends,
God is a better savior than
00:40:52.08\00:40:55.92
the devil is a tempter.
00:40:55.95\00:40:57.55
Don't give the devil more credit
to be able to make you be lost
00:40:57.59\00:41:02.06
than you're going to give God
credit to be able to save you.
00:41:02.09\00:41:05.66
Otherwise, you've got a
bigger devil than a savior.
00:41:05.69\00:41:08.43
So read that book, I'll tell
you again, it's called "Is it
00:41:08.46\00:41:11.77
Possible to Live
Without Sinning?"
00:41:11.80\00:41:13.57
You'll be encouraged by that.
00:41:13.60\00:41:15.17
Jëan: The number to call
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00:41:15.20\00:41:19.67
and ask for the book.
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It's called "Is it Possible
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00:41:35.99\00:41:39.59
Pastor Doug, I think you've
got a Bible verse you want
00:41:39.63\00:41:42.43
to add to that.
00:41:42.46\00:41:43.83
Doug: Yeah, well, I was thinking
about just--this is such
00:41:43.87\00:41:45.30
an important question because
so many folks get discouraged
00:41:45.33\00:41:47.47
and think, "Oh, I'm
never going to be good enough."
00:41:47.50\00:41:49.20
The apostle Paul, who
wrote almost half of the New
00:41:49.24\00:41:51.64
Testament, he said, "I
do not count myself to have
00:41:51.67\00:41:54.38
apprehended, but I press on."
00:41:54.41\00:41:56.81
But at the end of his life,
he says, "I have fought a good
00:41:56.85\00:41:59.05
fight, and there's a crown of
righteousness laid up for me."
00:41:59.08\00:42:01.52
He knew he was saved.
00:42:01.55\00:42:03.05
"I know whom I believed in.
00:42:03.08\00:42:04.45
I'm persuaded He's able to
keep that which I've committed
00:42:04.49\00:42:06.76
to Him."
00:42:06.79\00:42:08.09
But if you ask Paul
during his life, "Do you
00:42:08.12\00:42:09.49
think you're perfect?"
00:42:09.52\00:42:10.83
He says, "I don't
count myself to be perfect."
00:42:10.86\00:42:12.43
So, you may--you're probably
never going to feel like you're
00:42:12.46\00:42:15.26
perfect, but don't lose faith
that God can finish what He
00:42:15.30\00:42:18.40
started in your life.
00:42:18.43\00:42:20.10
Jëan: All right, next caller
that we have is Eric in Texas.
00:42:20.14\00:42:22.74
Eric, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:42:22.77\00:42:25.01
Eric: Hi, Pastor Doug.
00:42:25.04\00:42:26.54
Doug: Hi Eric,
thanks for calling.
00:42:26.57\00:42:28.28
Eric: I got a question, "Does
the Antichrist and the false
00:42:28.31\00:42:32.85
prophet help Satan fight
against God when He comes back?"
00:42:32.88\00:42:38.62
Well, the Antichrist
and the false prophet are
00:42:38.65\00:42:41.19
in confederacy.
00:42:41.22\00:42:43.16
It talks about the the
beast, the dragon, and the
00:42:43.19\00:42:45.59
false prophet.
00:42:45.63\00:42:47.23
They're all in confederacy
together in opposing God, and so
00:42:47.23\00:42:52.00
when Christ is seen coming and
there's a vision of His coming--
00:42:52.03\00:42:55.04
in Revelation, is it the 19--
he comes riding on the white
00:42:55.07\00:42:58.17
horse, and yeah, he's
coming to execute judgment.
00:42:58.21\00:43:03.11
And I think in Revelation 20
doesn't it say Satan, not only
00:43:03.14\00:43:06.98
Satan, but the beast and
the false prophet are all cast
00:43:07.02\00:43:08.98
in the lake of fire.
00:43:09.02\00:43:10.35
Jëan: That's right.
00:43:10.39\00:43:11.69
Doug: So there you've got the
great nemesis and the great hero
00:43:11.72\00:43:15.92
pictured there.
00:43:15.96\00:43:17.29
Jëan: Yeah, you have
this counterfeit trinity that
00:43:17.33\00:43:19.66
the Bible describes.
00:43:19.69\00:43:20.96
You have the true Trinity;
the Father, the Son, and
00:43:21.00\00:43:22.46
the Holy Spirit.
00:43:22.50\00:43:23.83
Then you have the devil's
trinity; the dragon, the beast,
00:43:23.87\00:43:25.40
and the false prophet.
00:43:25.43\00:43:26.90
And just as the Father, Son, and
the Holy Spirit are united in
00:43:26.94\00:43:29.80
their work of saving mankind,
the dragon, the beast, and the
00:43:29.84\00:43:32.77
false prophet are uniting
the work of destroying mankind,
00:43:32.81\00:43:36.95
leading them into sin,
bringing about destruction.
00:43:36.98\00:43:39.81
And so this coalition
exists right at the very end.
00:43:39.85\00:43:43.08
We do have a study
guide that talks about who is
00:43:43.12\00:43:45.35
the Antichrist.
00:43:45.39\00:43:46.72
It's an important study and
it'll go into detail on this.
00:43:46.76\00:43:50.16
The Bible warns us and says,
"Don't worship the beast or his
00:43:50.19\00:43:52.53
image, don't receive his mark."
00:43:52.56\00:43:54.20
So we need to understand
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00:43:54.23\00:43:57.03
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00:44:02.17\00:44:06.94
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00:44:10.35\00:44:13.65
Marlene in California.
00:44:13.68\00:44:15.02
Marlene, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:44:15.05\00:44:17.52
Marlene: Hi, how are you guys?
00:44:17.55\00:44:18.92
Hi Pastor Doug, hi Jëan.
00:44:18.95\00:44:22.52
Hi, I wanted to ask a question.
00:44:22.56\00:44:25.43
What does the Bible say about
women being ordained ministers
00:44:25.46\00:44:31.30
and preaching in the pulpit?
00:44:31.33\00:44:33.74
Is there such a--does God
speak on that or does He not?
00:44:33.77\00:44:39.24
Doug: Yeah, I think the Bible's
pretty clear that God has called
00:44:39.27\00:44:44.11
men to be the servant leaders in
the family and the church is an
00:44:44.15\00:44:47.82
extension of the family.
00:44:47.85\00:44:50.69
But yeah, you're asking two
questions there, so I want to
00:44:50.72\00:44:52.62
make sure that I
bifurcate my answer.
00:44:52.65\00:44:54.69
One is about women speaking
in the church, you talked about
00:44:54.72\00:44:56.96
them preaching or
teaching in the pulpit.
00:44:56.99\00:44:59.06
There's a thin line
between preaching and teaching.
00:44:59.09\00:45:01.90
Sometimes my preaching is
teaching and sometimes you get
00:45:01.93\00:45:04.33
a little
preaching, and it's different.
00:45:04.37\00:45:06.20
The other you ask is about
women being ordained as pastors.
00:45:06.23\00:45:10.17
There's no example in the
Bible of a woman baptizing or
00:45:10.21\00:45:15.04
offering sacrifice.
00:45:15.08\00:45:17.15
That was usually the men, the
sons of Aaron were called to do
00:45:17.18\00:45:21.68
that, Abraham did it, Jacob,
Isaac, the patriarchs were the
00:45:21.72\00:45:26.02
ones who let out in
the priestly functions.
00:45:26.05\00:45:29.12
And so in the New Testament, it
says that an elder should be the
00:45:29.16\00:45:32.76
husband of one wife.
00:45:32.79\00:45:34.73
And so all through the Bible, of
course, there's a reason Jesus
00:45:34.76\00:45:37.03
chose 12 men to be pastors,
and He--Jesus certainly went
00:45:37.07\00:45:42.40
against the tide in
many things that He did.
00:45:42.44\00:45:44.54
He could have gone against
that tradition and see if it was
00:45:44.57\00:45:47.54
wrong, but He perpetuated it.
00:45:47.58\00:45:50.35
And then when they replaced
Judas, they replaced--they
00:45:50.38\00:45:55.32
said, "Choose
from among you a man."
00:45:55.35\00:45:57.92
And then when they were picking
the deacons, it said, "Choose
00:45:57.95\00:46:00.36
out from among you seven men."
00:46:00.39\00:46:02.26
And so, consistently when people
were ordained in a special sense
00:46:02.29\00:46:07.20
for positions of leadership,
teaching positions, they
00:46:07.23\00:46:10.80
were men.
00:46:10.83\00:46:12.07
But when you have a man who's
a pastor of a church, he will
00:46:12.10\00:46:14.77
recognize gifts of ministry in
women and invite them to teach
00:46:14.80\00:46:19.14
or preach something God
has shared, because you have
00:46:19.17\00:46:20.98
examples of women, you have
prophetess in the Bible where
00:46:21.01\00:46:24.61
God gave them a message.
00:46:24.65\00:46:26.15
And Deborah and Huldah and
Hannah, I guess in a sense she
00:46:26.18\00:46:29.75
was a prophetess
when she spoke there.
00:46:29.78\00:46:31.95
There's several others that
don't come to mind right now.
00:46:31.99\00:46:34.86
But we have a free book we'll
send you that's just got the
00:46:34.89\00:46:38.26
Scriptures on this and you
can draw your own conclusions.
00:46:38.29\00:46:40.96
It's called "Women in Ministry,"
and I think God has called all
00:46:40.96\00:46:44.57
believers to ministry, to
share their gifts in sharing
00:46:44.60\00:46:47.74
the gospel.
00:46:47.77\00:46:49.07
But there is a distinction in
the roles of men and women and I
00:46:49.10\00:46:51.94
know that's not popular in our
culture that is trying to erase
00:46:51.97\00:46:55.24
any distinction between genders,
but the Bible's pretty clear
00:46:55.28\00:46:58.55
there are differences.
00:46:58.58\00:46:59.91
There's a reason that God
says, "A man should not put on a
00:46:59.95\00:47:03.15
woman's clothing, neither
should a woman put on a man's
00:47:03.18\00:47:06.22
clothing," and that's
Deuteronomy, I think, 18:22,
00:47:06.25\00:47:09.22
"All that do so
are an abomination."
00:47:09.26\00:47:11.46
God wants us to celebrate these
differences, not to blur them.
00:47:11.49\00:47:15.70
Thanks, I hope that
helps a little bit, Marlene,
00:47:15.73\00:47:17.67
with your question.
00:47:17.70\00:47:19.00
Jëan: Again, the number
is 800-835-6747, and ask for
00:47:19.03\00:47:22.50
the book, "Women in Ministry."
00:47:22.54\00:47:24.41
You can call pound 250 on your
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00:47:24.44\00:47:27.51
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00:47:27.54\00:47:30.21
James in Tennessee, James,
welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
00:47:30.25\00:47:33.95
James: Oh yes,
thank you all so much.
00:47:33.98\00:47:35.88
I worry a lot about Jeremiah
chapter 8, verse 8, because it
00:47:35.92\00:47:41.76
seems like the prophets
are here--like, I don't know if
00:47:41.79\00:47:45.23
they're actually lying in
the verse or what this verse
00:47:45.26\00:47:47.60
actually means, because I
was wondering also that Sabbath,
00:47:47.60\00:47:52.17
the word
"Sabbath" don't mean church.
00:47:52.20\00:47:54.24
And how do we know how--why
wasn't going to church one of
00:47:54.27\00:47:58.61
the Ten Commandments?
00:47:58.64\00:48:00.24
Like, "Thou shalt go to
church" or make the commandments
00:48:00.28\00:48:02.98
a little bit longer.
00:48:03.01\00:48:04.35
And reminds me of, like,
Jeremiah chapter 8, verse 8.
00:48:04.38\00:48:09.58
Can you explain that verse and
explain why it don't mention the
00:48:09.62\00:48:12.39
church and the commandments?
00:48:12.42\00:48:13.96
Doug: Yeah, well, in Jeremiah
chapter 8, I think I've got the
00:48:13.99\00:48:17.53
right verse here, verse 8. "How
can you say, 'We are wise, and
00:48:17.56\00:48:21.26
the law of the Lord is with us?'
00:48:21.30\00:48:22.76
Look, the false pen
of the scribe certainly
00:48:22.80\00:48:25.03
works falsehood.
00:48:25.07\00:48:26.40
The wise men are ashamed,
they are dismayed and taken."
00:48:26.43\00:48:29.40
Now Jeremiah--it's interesting
you ask this, I just finished
00:48:29.44\00:48:32.01
reading the entire book of
Jeremiah in the last couple of
00:48:32.04\00:48:35.08
weeks and was
reading these passages.
00:48:35.11\00:48:38.31
Jeremiah is telling the people
of Israel, as they're being
00:48:38.35\00:48:41.42
surrounded by the Chaldeans,
or the Babylonians, that you're
00:48:41.45\00:48:46.42
saying, "Well, we've got the
commandments, we've got the law
00:48:46.45\00:48:48.92
with us, we've got the
Ten Commandments and the ark,
00:48:48.96\00:48:51.43
God is with us," yet
they were living wickedly.
00:48:51.46\00:48:53.50
He said, "Don't say that you've
got the law with you, that's not
00:48:53.53\00:48:55.73
going to save you if
you're not obeying it."
00:48:55.76\00:48:57.73
So that's really what he's
talking about in this passage.
00:48:57.77\00:49:00.50
Just because you say, "I've got
a scribe with us, we've got the
00:49:00.54\00:49:02.94
law with us," but the scribes
are not teaching the truth.
00:49:02.97\00:49:06.54
He's not talking about
the writing of the Bible, he's
00:49:06.57\00:49:08.38
talking about what their
interpretations of it was.
00:49:08.41\00:49:10.01
Because the Scriptures had
been written by the prophets.
00:49:10.05\00:49:13.31
Scribes basically were the ones
who were dissecting the Word.
00:49:13.35\00:49:16.89
Jesus had problems with
the scribes in His day too.
00:49:16.92\00:49:20.76
Jëan: And then you mentioned
also the, you know, the
00:49:20.79\00:49:22.76
Sabbath commandment.
00:49:22.79\00:49:24.13
The Sabbath commandment doesn't
say, "Well, that's a day you
00:49:24.16\00:49:26.36
have to go to church," but
the Bible does talk--speak about
00:49:26.39\00:49:28.70
a holy convocation where
people were to gather together
00:49:28.73\00:49:31.67
and worship.
00:49:31.70\00:49:32.93
And there's many examples that
we have in the Old Testament,
00:49:32.97\00:49:34.60
also in the New Testament,
where people gathered together
00:49:34.64\00:49:37.47
to worship and that is
very appropriate to do on
00:49:37.51\00:49:40.64
the Sabbath.
00:49:40.68\00:49:41.98
Doug: Holy assembly.
00:49:42.01\00:49:43.75
Jëan: Yeah, Paul says, "Do not
neglect the gathering yourselves
00:49:43.78\00:49:45.68
together," speaking about
church, especially as you see
00:49:45.71\00:49:48.42
the day approaching, the day
of the Second Coming of Christ.
00:49:48.45\00:49:50.35
Doug: And a Christian is a
follower of Christ, and the
00:49:50.39\00:49:52.75
Bible says, "Jesus, as
His custom was, He went to the
00:49:52.79\00:49:57.16
synagogue on the Sabbath day."
00:49:57.19\00:49:58.79
So He gives us an example there.
00:49:58.83\00:50:00.83
Jëan: Okay, next one that
we have is Frank in Oregon.
00:50:00.86\00:50:03.23
Frank, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:50:03.26\00:50:05.20
Frank: Hello Pastor
Doug, I got a question for you.
00:50:05.23\00:50:10.21
In Isaiah 2:4, it talks
about what will happen when the
00:50:10.24\00:50:15.88
Messiah comes, and it says, "He
shall judge between the nations,
00:50:15.91\00:50:20.58
and rebuke many people; they
shall beat their swords into
00:50:20.62\00:50:23.89
plowshares, and their spears
into pruning hooks; nations
00:50:23.92\00:50:27.49
shall not lift up sword against
nation, neither shall they learn
00:50:27.52\00:50:30.96
war anymore."
00:50:30.99\00:50:32.73
Now, as I see it, the wars
have continued and nations have
00:50:32.76\00:50:38.10
fought and none of that has come
to pass, and I think that's why
00:50:38.13\00:50:43.61
the Jewish people are rejecting
that Christ was the Messiah, and
00:50:43.64\00:50:47.91
how does that jive with
what is currently preached
00:50:47.94\00:50:51.78
in Christianity?
00:50:51.81\00:50:53.31
Doug: This is talking about
the Second Coming of Jesus.
00:50:53.35\00:50:56.22
There are two kinds of Old
Testament messianic prophecy.
00:50:56.25\00:50:59.85
Some are talking about Christ
coming as a sacrifice, that's
00:50:59.89\00:51:03.02
what you read in
Isaiah chapter 53.
00:51:03.06\00:51:05.09
"He's bruised for our
iniquities, and we're healed
00:51:05.13\00:51:09.16
by His stripes."
00:51:09.20\00:51:10.50
He suffered, He's
a suffering servant.
00:51:10.53\00:51:12.33
He opens not His
mouth, and he goes to trial.
00:51:12.37\00:51:14.54
And so this is the Jesus's
First Coming as a lamb, He comes
00:51:14.57\00:51:19.21
the second time as a lion.
00:51:19.24\00:51:20.54
The wicked are destroyed,
He creates a new heaven and
00:51:20.58\00:51:23.04
a new earth.
00:51:23.08\00:51:24.38
Isaiah also talks about that
where the wolf lies down with
00:51:24.41\00:51:26.61
the lamb, the lion and the
ox are--they get along together,
00:51:26.65\00:51:30.49
they don't kill each other.
00:51:30.52\00:51:32.22
And in this time of peace,
weapons, the spears and swords
00:51:32.25\00:51:37.06
that were used for fighting,
they're now going to be used
00:51:37.09\00:51:38.76
for farming.
00:51:38.79\00:51:40.13
So--and they used to do
that during the time of Solomon.
00:51:40.16\00:51:42.26
They said, "We got all these
armaments, we're in a time of
00:51:42.30\00:51:44.70
peace, we need the
iron for our farms."
00:51:44.73\00:51:46.33
And they would
change the use of the iron.
00:51:46.37\00:51:49.20
And so, this is a beautiful
picture of what the world will
00:51:49.24\00:51:52.91
be like during the Second Coming
of Christ, the new heaven,
00:51:52.94\00:51:56.78
the new earth.
00:51:56.81\00:51:58.15
The Jews are applying it to the
First Coming, that's the mistake
00:51:58.18\00:52:00.45
they're making.
00:52:00.48\00:52:01.72
Jëan: And even at the time of
Christ, there was some confusion
00:52:01.75\00:52:03.72
about this, because,
yeah, they were looking for
00:52:03.75\00:52:05.52
a conquering king.
00:52:05.55\00:52:06.89
They didn't understand when
Jesus said, "The kingdom of God
00:52:06.92\00:52:09.16
is within you."
00:52:09.19\00:52:10.66
He said, "My kingdom is
not of this world, otherwise my
00:52:10.69\00:52:13.43
disciples would fight for it, my
followers would fight for it,"
00:52:13.46\00:52:15.76
but the kingdoms are going
to be His at the Second Coming.
00:52:15.80\00:52:20.20
That's what the disciples said,
"Lord, is it now that you're
00:52:20.24\00:52:22.14
going to restore the kingdom?"
00:52:22.17\00:52:23.47
They said after
the resurrection.
00:52:23.51\00:52:24.84
So they didn't understand, even
then, and Jesus had to explain
00:52:24.87\00:52:26.84
to them, it's not now, it's
when he comes the Second Time.
00:52:26.88\00:52:30.25
All right, next
caller that we have.
00:52:30.28\00:52:31.58
Let's see, we've
got Johnny in Canada.
00:52:31.61\00:52:33.52
Johnny, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:52:33.55\00:52:36.25
Johnny: Thank you
for taking my call.
00:52:36.28\00:52:38.15
So I have been studying the two
prophecies in Daniel, the 490
00:52:38.19\00:52:43.53
year and then the 1260.
00:52:43.56\00:52:48.20
And looking for subtle
connections, I saw something
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that I'm curious what you
guys think, and that is when the
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disciples asked Jesus,
"How often should I forgive?"
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And He says 70 times 7, which
seems to me like a reference to
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490, as, like, a
period of forgiveness.
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And so I'm wondering if you
see that in anything else with
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perhaps the other prophecy where
it's three and a half years and
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Jesus's ministry was three and
a half years and the drought of
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Elijah, three and a half years.
00:53:16.73\00:53:18.23
I'm curious if you see
any connections with some of
00:53:18.26\00:53:20.50
those remarks.
00:53:20.53\00:53:21.83
Doug: Yeah, it's all connected.
00:53:21.86\00:53:23.16
You've got seven is a number
for also, it's God's number for
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perfection, but it's
also a number for forgiveness.
00:53:26.03\00:53:28.94
The Bible says a righteous
man may fall seven times and
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rise again.
00:53:32.34\00:53:33.78
And Jesus--by the way, in
Daniel chapter 9, when it says
00:53:33.81\00:53:39.08
in verse 24, "Seventy weeks
are determined for Your people."
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Seventy weeks are
cut off for Your people.
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Daniel was saying, "Lord, how
much longer are you going to put
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up with Your people
before the Messiah comes?"
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Because they kept, kind
of, sinning and repenting and
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sinning and repenting up and
down, revival, and then there
00:53:53.03\00:53:55.83
was disgrace, and God said, "I'm
going to give them another 490
00:53:55.86\00:54:00.20
years of mercy."
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So it's talking about the
long-suffering of God, seventy
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times seven.
00:54:04.97\00:54:06.27
And then Peter said, "How often
shall I forgive my brother,
00:54:06.31\00:54:07.94
seven times?"
00:54:07.98\00:54:09.28
And Jesus said, "No,
seventy times seven."
00:54:09.31\00:54:11.31
He's alluding to the
long-suffering of God with
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Israel, and Jesus, of course,
came to mark that time that
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Daniel was speaking of.
00:54:21.72\00:54:23.59
So, Christ's baptism was
the first part of that 490 year
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prophecy, the
Messiah being anointed.
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Jëan: All right, excellent.
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Let's see, we've got
time for a few more callers.
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We got Brandon in California.
00:54:34.17\00:54:36.20
Brandon, welcome to the program.
00:54:36.24\00:54:38.81
Brandon: Hi, how are
you guys doing today?
00:54:38.84\00:54:40.51
Doug: Doing great, thank you.
00:54:40.54\00:54:42.48
Your call--or your question?
00:54:42.51\00:54:44.61
Brandon: So, in 1 Corinthians
15:1 through 4, it says that
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the gospel was the Christ in
Him crucified, I believe, and in
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Revelation 14:6 through 12
is the three angels's messages.
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And my question is about--
because I've heard some of the
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pioneers of the church say
that the three angels's message
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is the gospel, but
that's not what Paul says.
00:55:04.37\00:55:06.33
Doug: Well, right there in the
three angels's message it says
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that they are to
preach the everlasting gospel.
00:55:10.21\00:55:14.01
So I'm still not sure why,
you know, the angel is given
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the everlasting gospel.
00:55:18.68\00:55:19.98
Why is this a conflict or
how is it different from what
00:55:20.02\00:55:21.68
Paul says?
00:55:21.72\00:55:23.18
Brandon: Yeah, you're right.
00:55:23.22\00:55:24.69
It says that it preaches--or it
says to preach the everlasting
00:55:24.72\00:55:27.99
gospel, which I guess is
life, death, and resurrection
00:55:28.02\00:55:31.43
of Christ.
00:55:31.46\00:55:32.79
Okay, I don't know how to
explain my thought process here,
00:55:32.83\00:55:34.56
I'm not very good at that.
00:55:34.56\00:55:35.86
Doug: No, it's all right.
00:55:35.90\00:55:37.20
Yeah, there's no conflict
really between the messages of
00:55:37.23\00:55:42.50
the angels.
00:55:42.54\00:55:44.21
The first one is being told to
preach the everlasting gospel to
00:55:44.24\00:55:48.44
all the world, and Christ said
that He will not come, and this
00:55:48.48\00:55:51.31
is Matthew 24:14, it says, "The
gospel of this kingdom will be
00:55:51.35\00:55:56.18
preached in all the world for a
witness," doesn't mean everybody
00:55:56.22\00:55:59.02
is going to believe it,
"and then the end will come."
00:55:59.05\00:56:03.46
And so, the angel in the heavens
is talking about, you know,
00:56:03.49\00:56:07.50
usually something from the
heavens means it's going global,
00:56:07.50\00:56:11.10
preaching to the whole world,
and they're going to the four
00:56:11.13\00:56:13.10
corners of the earth preaching
this message, and that's what's
00:56:13.13\00:56:17.21
going to happen
before the end comes.
00:56:17.24\00:56:18.91
And then all through the three
angels's messages, not only is
00:56:18.94\00:56:22.21
the message the good news,
and part of the gospel is to run
00:56:22.24\00:56:25.55
from sin, repent of your sins.
00:56:25.58\00:56:27.85
The third angel's message,
"Beware of the beast and his
00:56:27.88\00:56:30.09
image," is also a message of
warning about the devil and sin.
00:56:30.12\00:56:35.59
So you've got the good news,
you've got to beware of the
00:56:35.62\00:56:39.13
danger of sin in the three
angels's message, that we should
00:56:39.16\00:56:42.70
be worshiping God, part of the
gospel is to worship God, and of
00:56:42.73\00:56:46.43
course, the gospel in Revelation
says "Christ is the one who was
00:56:46.47\00:56:50.57
dead," that's in the messages
to the seven churches, "but He's
00:56:50.61\00:56:53.71
alive forevermore."
00:56:53.74\00:56:55.71
So, yeah, I think that you
do find the gospel woven very
00:56:55.74\00:57:00.18
deeply through the fabric of the
three angels that we find here
00:57:00.22\00:57:03.92
in Revelation chapter 14.
00:57:03.95\00:57:06.02
We have a lesson on that, and
I think that you'll be blessed,
00:57:06.05\00:57:08.72
friends, if you get those--that
lesson called "Angel Messages
00:57:08.76\00:57:11.99
From Outer Space."
00:57:12.03\00:57:13.40
Jëan: Our next caller,
Pastor Doug, is Thomas, and he's
00:57:13.43\00:57:15.96
listening in Pennsylvania.
00:57:16.00\00:57:17.30
Thomas, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:57:17.33\00:57:19.70
Thomas: Yeah, so I know in
Scripture in the Bible, the word
00:57:19.73\00:57:23.34
"Trinity" isn't in
the Bible anywhere.
00:57:23.37\00:57:26.04
And I know the Holy Spirit
is the Spirit of the Father and
00:57:26.07\00:57:30.65
the Son, correct?
00:57:30.68\00:57:32.15
Doug: Well, the Holy Spirit is
a distinct person, so it does--
00:57:32.18\00:57:38.22
you know, the Holy Spirit and
the Father and Son are all in
00:57:38.25\00:57:40.79
perfect unison together.
00:57:40.82\00:57:42.72
You know, we're
going to run out of time.
00:57:42.76\00:57:44.26
Tell you what, rather than
cut you off halfway through
00:57:44.29\00:57:47.13
a thought--I guess
I kind of did that.
00:57:47.20\00:57:48.56
Sorry, Thomas, but I hope
you'll call back next week.
00:57:48.60\00:57:51.43
We do have a book that
talks about "Understanding
00:57:51.47\00:57:54.40
the Trinity."
00:57:54.44\00:57:55.74
And if you want, you
can get a free copy of that.
00:57:55.77\00:57:57.34
The number,
Pastor Ross, real quick.
00:57:57.37\00:57:58.71
Jëan: 800-835-6747,
"Understanding the Trinity."
00:57:58.74\00:58:02.98
Doug: All right,
God bless, friends.
00:58:03.01\00:58:04.35
Out of time, until next week and
keep studying the Word, we'll
00:58:04.38\00:58:06.98
study again then.
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