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Welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
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Let's start
with an amazing fact.
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In 1960, Leonid Rogozov, a young
Russian surgeon, volunteered to
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join a Soviet Antarctic
expedition as the team doctor.
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After a long journey, they
eventually reached the remote
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Antarctic station thousands
of miles from civilization where
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the team planned to spend
several months doing research.
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But then, April 29, 1961,
Rogozov began to experience
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terrible pain in his abdomen
which just kept getting worse.
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To his dismay, he finally
realized that he was suffering
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from acute appendicitis and
immediate surgery was needed.
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The problem was that he was the
only doctor at the base and the
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nearest surgical facility
was thousands of miles away.
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To make things worse,
bad weather conditions made
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evacuation impossible.
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He was left with no other option
but to operate on himself.
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With the assistance of two
others, neither of whom had any
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medical training, Rogozov set
up a makeshift operating room at
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the base and began a
two hour surgery on himself.
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Using local anesthetic and a
mirror to see what he was doing,
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Rogozov successfully removed
his appendix and he made a
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full recovery.
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Well, friends, this story
reminds me of the biblical
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lesson that we need to have
patient endurance as well when
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facing trials and tribulations.
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The apostle James tells us,
"Blessed is the man who endures
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temptation; for when he has been
approved, he will receive the
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crown of life which the Lord
has promised to those that love
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him," James chapter 1, verse 12.
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Remember, friends, that despite
the trials that you might be
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going through today, having
faith in God and trusting in His
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Word will see you through every
trial and will lead to ultimate
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victory at the
Second Coming of Christ.
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That's why Jesus said, "...He
that endures to the end, the
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same shall be saved."
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Well, friends, I want to
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But before we go to the
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of prayer.
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Dear Father, we are so grateful
for this opportunity once again
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to be able to open up Your Word
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truths from scripture.
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Lord, the Bible is Your book.
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We ask for the Holy Spirit to
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into a clearer understanding
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Jesus's name, amen.
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Well, our first caller this
evening, Jinetlee, is listening
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in New York.
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Jinetlee,
welcome to the program.
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You're on "Bible Answers Live."
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Jinetlee: Hi,
Pastor Ross. How are you?
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Jëan: I'm doing
well. Thanks for calling.
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Jinetlee: Hi, I started to read
the book of Jonah and listening
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to stories of Nineveh and
seeing how Jonah was--at the
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beginning, everyone was saying,
"Don't punish me because of
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him," and I almost feel
convicted as an American
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with everything
that's happening.
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I was just wondering if this is
just kind of some panic or, you
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know, if we should be taking
this a little more serious
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and repenting.
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Jëan: Yeah, absolutely.
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I think Jesus made it clear in
Matthew chapter 24, He gave us
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certain signs connected
with His Second Coming.
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The Bible speaks of wars
and rumors of wars, there's
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pestilence, diseases, all
of these are are warning signs.
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But I think one of the greatest
signs that Jesus gives is that
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when this gospel of the kingdom,
He said, "Shall be preached unto
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all the world as a witness
unto all nations, then the end
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will come."
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So yes, we see these
things happening in the world.
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If anything, I think it should
inspire us and motivate us, as
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Christians, to proclaim
the gospel to the world.
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Now, that might be in
your neck of the woods, in your
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neighborhood, to your friends,
to your neighbors, to live out
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your faith because this gospel's
go to all the world and then the
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end will come.
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And that's happening through
technology, through media,
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through satellites,
through the internet.
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The gospel is being
preached to the world.
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So, yes, the sign of Jonah is
absolutely one of those signs,
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could very well be the natural
disasters and the earthquakes
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that we see in the world.
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Does that make sense, Jinetlee?
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Jinetlee: Yeah, yeah.
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I'm seeing it.
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I've just been feeling more
called to tell my friends to
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start picking up the book
and it's a good book, it's an
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interesting book.
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Jëan: It is a
very interesting book.
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It's a great book because
it also illustrates the gospel.
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Not only is it talking about
warnings of judgment, but it's
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also a gospel invitation.
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You see God's mercy for those
in Nineveh and actually sending
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Jonah, despite his reluctance,
to actually preach this
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warning message.
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A number of
important lessons there.
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Thanks for your call.
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Next caller that we have is Gary
and he's listening in Illinois.
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Gary, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Gary: Thank you.
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In Revelation 13,
it talks of two beasts.
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The second beast has political
and religious power like the
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first beast.
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So, my question is, is
the second beast--does it have
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anything to do with the
Christian nationalism movement
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that we're seeing right now?
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Jëan: Well, yes, it does.
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But let me just back up a
little bit and talk about these
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two beasts.
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Revelation chapter
13, you're referring to.
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The first beast that's
described, beginning in verse 1,
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and it goes through until verse
10, it describes a beast that
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arises up out of the sea and
it talks about this beast and
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gives descriptions.
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Now, beast in Bible prophecy
represents a political power,
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a nation.
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And in this case, the first
beast represents a political
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power, but it's unique because
it's--God talks about it--it's
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got blasphemy or
blasphemes against God.
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So, it's both a
political and a religious power.
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It is sort of a
combination of church and state.
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And Protestant reformers
throughout history have
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identified this first beast, of
Revelation 13, is representing
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the rise of the Papal power or
the Vatican, especially during
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the 1260 years of Papal
supremacy, from 538 until 1798.
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But there is a second beast
that's referred to here, "Coming
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up from the earth and he had
two horns like a lamb," this is
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verse 11, "but he ended
up speaking like a dragon."
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That second beast has been
identified as the United States
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in Bible prophecy.
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So, as the first beast was
receiving what's called the
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deadly wound, that occurred
at the end of the 1260 years of
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Papal supremacy in 1798
where the political power of the
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Papacy was removed,
another power was arising.
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Well, that power, of
course, was the United States.
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It was gaining momentum.
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It was growing
to world prominence.
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And the United States, different
from the Papal power, was based
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upon Protestant values, the
freedom of religion, separation
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of church and state, which was
different from that of the Papal
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power of the Vatican.
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But as time goes on, it says it
has two horns like a lamb, but
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it speaks like a dragon, meaning
there is a change that takes
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place within the United States.
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And I think there's going to be
a bit of a backlash, you might
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say, to the moral decay
that we see in our society.
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Those who are convicted or feel
like, wow, you know, we need to
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get America back to God and, to
some degree, we agree with them
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because we see the sin and we
see, just, the immorality that's
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taking place around us.
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But you can't force
people to worship God.
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It's got to be a freedom of
choice, a decision they make.
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However, they're
going to go to extreme.
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And eventually, according
to Bible prophecy, certain laws
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will be enforced that restrict
religious worship and that sets
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up the mark of the beast
that you read about here in the
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same passage.
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So, does those--is--does the
religious right or the Christian
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Coalition or the Ecumenical
movement that we see in the
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United States, does that
have something to play in this?
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I believe so.
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And I think as time goes on
we'll see this even clearer.
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Does that make sense, Gary?
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Gary: Boy, it talks
really, very, an awful lot.
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Jëan: All right, well,
thank you for your call.
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You know, we do have a study
guide that we'll be happy to
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States in Bible prophecy.
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It is called, "The
US in Bible Prophecy."
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Pretty simple name.
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If you'd like to
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As for the study guide, it's
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Next caller that we have is
Henry listening in New York.
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Henry, welcome to the program.
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Henry: Yes.
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Hello.
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Jëan: Hi.
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And your question?
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Henry: My question is, when you
die, does it matter where your
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body goes?
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Jëan: When you die, does it
matter when you--do you mean if
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you're buried or cremated?
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Henry: Right.
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I know when Jesus Christ died
they buried Him in the tomb.
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When Lazarus died is different,
but, like, if I die today, well,
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does it matter
where my body goes?
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Jëan: All right, well,
that's a good question, yes.
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Well, first of all, in the
resurrection, for the believer,
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you know, they're going to be
resurrected to eternal life when
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Jesus comes the second time.
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We receive, at the Second
Coming of Christ, whether we are
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resurrected from the dead or
whether we are alive and changed
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in a moment, in a twinkling
of an eye, we receive immortal
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bodies, very different than
the bodies that we have now.
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So, God doesn't need anything of
the leftovers of this body that
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we currently have in order for
us to be recreated, to have our
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immortal bodies.
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So, you know, from a biblical
perspective, if you look at the
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tradition that we see in
scripture, most people were
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buried, but if you're buried for
a long enough time, there's not
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anything left but maybe
some teeth and a few bones.
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Again, that's not something that
God needs to recreate you at the
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Second Coming of Christ.
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There are a few examples in the
Bible, I'm thinking of Jonathan.
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He was eventually cremated.
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They gathered his
body and they burnt it.
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Of course, we believe that
Jonathan will be resurrected.
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He loved the Lord.
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He was faithful.
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And then, of course, there
were many Christian martyrs
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throughout the Dark
Ages who faced persecution.
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Many of them were burned at the
stake for their faith in God,
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for their willingness to follow
the Bible, and we believe that
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they will also be resurrected
at the Second Coming of Christ.
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So, does it really matter?
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No, I think that's something you
might want to decide, maybe talk
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to your family,
and reach a decision.
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But from a biblical perspective,
God doesn't need any of these
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bodies when He recreates us.
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So, hopefully that helps, Henry.
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Thank you for your call.
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We've got Jaymee
listening in Idaho.
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Jaymee, welcome to the program.
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Jaymee: Oh, it's so
good to talk to you.
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Thank you for taking my call.
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Jëan: You're
welcome. Thanks for calling.
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Jaymee: My question is about
Revelation 3:10 where it says,
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"Because thou has kept the word
of my patience, I also will keep
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thee from the hour of
temptation, which shall come
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upon all the world, to try
them that dwell upon the earth."
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And my friend is telling me
that this is belonging to the
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pre-trib and the Rapture because
He will keep us from the hour of
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temptation, and so we're
not going to have to worry about
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the tribulation.
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We're going to be raptured
off and not worry about it.
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So, can you explain this
scripture to me so I can explain
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it to her?
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Jëan: Yeah, happy to.
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So, when you look in Revelation
chapter 2 and 3, you have
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Christ's message
to the seven churches.
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There's a series of
sevens in the book Revelation.
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Seven churches, seven
seals, and seven trumpets.
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And each of these series of
sevens represent the Christian
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era, starting with the time
of the disciples and it goes all
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the way through to those who are
alive on the earth when Jesus
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comes the second time, and
they focus on different aspects
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during the New Testament era.
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For example, the churches focus
on the condition of the church
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during the Christian era.
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So, the church went
through different phases.
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The early church was pure,
they were faithful to the Word.
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Then you have the church of
Smyrna that was a persecuted
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church and they were persecuted
by the Romans, by pagan Romans,
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and that continued until
the legalization of Christianity
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in 313.
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And then you see a compromise
that begins to take place
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throughout the Dark Ages all
the way up until you get to the
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church of the Reformation
and the truths of God's Word are
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beginning to be--are understood
and people are studying.
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But then you get to the sixth
church, which is the church of
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Philadelphia, and that's
where the verses that you're
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asking about.
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The church of Philadelphia
represents the Christian church
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from about 1800, maybe a little
after that, 1805, 1810, there's
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no hard date there, but around
1800 through to about 1850,
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that's roughly the time period.
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And for the church of
Philadelphia, it's very
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interesting, Jesus encourages
the church, but He doesn't give
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any word of rebuke, whereas
the other churches, all of them,
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except for Philadelphia and
Smyrna, they receive a word of
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rebuke, but
Philadelphia doesn't.
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In other words, it was a
good church, it was doing the
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right thing.
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And if you look in history,
in the early 1800s, there was a
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great revival in studying the
Word of God, both in the United
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States and around the world.
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The Bible was translated into
more than 1500 languages, Bible
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societies were established,
missionaries went out to Africa
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and to Asia and to the
furthest parts of the world.
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There was a great revival.
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And here, this church--in the
church, Jesus says, "I will keep
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you from the hour of trial that
is coming upon the whole earth."
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Well, it wasn't for the church
of Philadelphia to go through
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the final Great Tribulation,
it's for the next church, the
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church of Laodicea.
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Now, we're living in the time
of the church of Laodicea today.
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And according to Revelation
chapter 12, verse 1, it says,
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"When Michael stands up, there
will be a time of trouble, worse
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than the world has ever seen.
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But at that time, thy people
shall be delivered, every one
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found written in the book."
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So, this Great Tribulation that
the Bible speaks about is yet in
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the future.
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The church is not raptured away
before the Tribulation, but they
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are preserved through the
Tribulation, just like the
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children of Israel
when they were in Egypt.
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When the ten plagues came upon
Egypt, the children of Israel,
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they were protected from the
plagues and they were delivered
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out after the
plagues had done their work.
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So, likewise, at the end of the
seven last plagues, Jesus comes
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and the righteous are
delivered and taken to heaven.
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So, that's the context there if
you look at the seven churches.
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So, it's not talking--the church
of Philadelphia is not talking
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about a Rapture time period.
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It's rather talking about
the church in history in the
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early 1800s.
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Jaymee, does that make sense?
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Jaymee: And it's protecting us
through that Tribulation and not
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taking us away from it.
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Jëan: That's right.
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And if you look at the examples
in scripture, God always
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protects these
people through trials.
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He doesn't always
deliver them from trials.
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For example, Shadrach, Meshach,
and Abednego, they went through
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the fiery furnace,
but Jesus was with them.
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Daniel went through the
lions' den, but, you know, God
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protected him.
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So, yes, the righteous will
be on the earth when the plagues
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are poured out, but they will
be protected and delivered from
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those plagues.
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And a wonderful psalm that
I think speaks of this time is
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Psalm 91.
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And if you want to read that
Psalm, it talks about how, "No
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plague shall come, neither
dwelling," and it's talking
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about the judgment that will be
coming up on the wicked at the
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end of time.
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All right, Jaymee, thank
you so much for your call.
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Great question.
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We've got Oscar
listening in New York.
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Oscar, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Oscar: Yeah,
thank you, yes, sir.
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In book of Matthew speaks
about the tares and the wheat.
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So my question
is--my question is this.
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Are the tares those who say that
Jesus is not divine or who deny
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Jesus is God?
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Jëan: Okay, so are the tares
those who deny God or say Jesus
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is not God?
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Yes, that could
definitely be part of it.
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Really, what's being described
here is two groups of people.
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You have those who are the
wheat and you have those who are
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the tares.
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The wheat represents those who
are true to God, those who are
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faithful, those who follow the
teachings of the Bible, those
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who are surrendered to Him.
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They are considered the wheat.
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But there are tares.
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And tares could include those
who claim to be Christians, but,
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as you said, they don't follow
with their complete heart,
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they're not fully surrendered,
but out of convenience they
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might consider
themselves a Christian.
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They might even go to church.
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But their heart is
not right with God.
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They would be considered a tare.
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And then, if you read on in the
parable, it says, "The time will
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come where God will separate
the wheat from the tares.
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The wheat is gathered and placed
in the barn, but the tares are
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gathered and
thrown in the fire."
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And then Jesus says that's the
way it's going to be at the end
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of the earth.
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He'll send His angels and
they'll gather the righteous
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from the earth, but the wicked
will be destroyed with the
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glory, or the fire, of God
at the Second Coming of Christ.
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So, there's a lot of categories
that could make up the tares.
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It's anybody who denies the
truth of Jesus but also refuses
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to follow the Bible or the
teachings of Christ or His law.
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That would also fall into
that category of the tares.
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You know, we do have a
study guide that talks about the
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Second Coming of Christ and
gives a little more information
00:19:29.96\00:19:33.07
about this separation
between the wheat and the tares.
00:19:33.10\00:19:35.94
We'll be happy to send that
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:19:35.97\00:19:39.01
It is called, "Ultimate
Deliverance," and it's about the
00:19:39.04\00:19:42.68
Second Coming of Christ.
00:19:42.71\00:19:44.15
We'll be happy to send that
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:19:44.18\00:19:47.58
Again, that study guide is
called, "Ultimate Deliverance."
00:19:47.62\00:19:50.35
The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:19:50.39\00:19:54.19
Ask for this study
guide, "Ultimate Deliverance."
00:19:54.22\00:19:56.49
You can also dial pound 250 and
just say, "Bible Answers Live,"
00:19:56.52\00:20:00.43
and ask for that study guide
by name, "Ultimate Deliverance."
00:20:00.46\00:20:03.57
We'll be able to send
you a digital download.
00:20:03.60\00:20:06.17
Thank you, Oscar.
00:20:06.20\00:20:07.50
We've got Charlene
listening in the Virgin Islands.
00:20:07.54\00:20:10.44
Charlene,
welcome to the program.
00:20:10.47\00:20:11.77
Charlene: Hey, good evening.
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All right, my question is, the
little black cloud that Elijah
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saw in Mount Carmel in his fight
with Ahab and the priest, that
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was a sign that rain was on
its way to end that three year
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drought, but was it also the
chariot of angels coming to pick
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up Elijah in the same way that
the little cloud is a sign of
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the Son of Man
coming, in Matthew 24?
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Jëan: Yes, well, there's kind
of a connection between that.
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So, the small cloud--now,
just to give the context of the
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story, you have the showdown
between Elijah, the true
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prophet, and you have Ahab and
the prophets of Baal, and the
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people were
invited to Mount Carmel.
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And, at first, Elijah said,
"Well, you know, you offer your
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sacrifices to Baal and the
god that answers with fire, you
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know, we'll know
he's the true God."
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And of course, all day long,
they try to get Baal to pour
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down fire, but, of
course, Baal is a false god.
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Nothing happens.
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Finally, Elijah rebuilds the
altar that had been broken down.
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He places the sacrifice,
the wood, water is poured on
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the altar.
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Elijah prays a simple prayer,
fire comes down and devours
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the fire.
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Those false
prophets are put to death.
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And then, there was a three and
a half year drought leading up
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to the showdown at Mount Carmel.
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Then, Elijah goes and he prays
because they need rain, and he
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prays seven times and, finally,
a small black cloud is seen on
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the Mediterranean and is making
its way towards the land of
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Israel and that is a sign that
an abundance of rain is coming.
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And so, Elijah runs down and he
tells Ahab, "You got to get to
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the city," actually runs in
front of the chariot, and there
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is a massive downpour of rain
that, you know, just breaks the
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drought that was in Israel.
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Now, is there significance
to that small black cloud and
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the rain?
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Yes.
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In the Bible, the outpouring
of the Holy Spirit is called the
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rain, the former rain.
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It occurred at Pentecost when
the Holy Spirit came upon the
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disciples and they were
empowered to take the gospel to
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the then-known world.
00:22:09.52\00:22:10.86
But there is another outpouring
of the Holy Spirit just before
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the close of probation.
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Again, calling people to
repentance, restoring true
00:22:15.23\00:22:18.63
worship, a special
outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
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It's described in Revelation
chapter 18 as an angel that
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comes down from heaven and the
earth is illuminated with his
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glory and he cries with a loud
voice, "Babylon is fallen, is
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fallen," and God will pour
out His Spirit upon His people,
00:22:30.45\00:22:33.45
there will be a great revival
amongst God's people, but it'll
00:22:33.48\00:22:37.19
also awaken
persecution against them.
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That is the last proclamation of
the gospel just before probation
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closes, the seven last plagues
fall, and then Jesus comes to
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deliver them.
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So, Elijah proclaims
an abundance of rain.
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He then faces
persecution by Jezebel.
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He flees out into the
wilderness, but God sustains
00:22:54.17\00:22:57.24
him, his faith is tested,
and then he is delivered.
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He is taken to
heaven without seeing death.
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That is a parallel of the
experience of God's people in
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the last days.
00:23:05.41\00:23:06.75
They receive the latter
rain, they proclaim God's last
00:23:06.78\00:23:08.72
warning message.
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Yes, persecution comes,
probation closes, their faith is
00:23:10.12\00:23:13.19
tested, but God delivers
them and they are translated to
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heaven without seeing
death, those who are alive at
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that point.
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So yes, a definite
parallel in those two stories.
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Does that make sense, Charlene?
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Charlene: Yes.
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Jëan: All right, let's see.
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We got Cedric
listening in Florida.
00:23:28.10\00:23:29.40
Cedric, welcome to the program.
00:23:29.44\00:23:31.04
Cedric: Thank you, Brother Ross.
00:23:31.07\00:23:32.37
How are you doing today?
00:23:32.41\00:23:33.74
Jëan: I'm doing well, thank you.
00:23:33.78\00:23:35.54
Cedric: So, my question for
you, my brother, is regarding to
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Matthew 27, verses 24 and 25.
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Jëan: Okay, let me read it for
those who are listening and then
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ask the question about it.
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Matthew 27, beginning in verse
24, it says, "When Pilate saw
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that he could not prevail at
all, but rather that a tumult
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was rising, he took water,
he washed his hands before the
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multitude, saying, 'I am
innocent of the blood of this
00:23:57.37\00:23:59.60
just person.
00:23:59.63\00:24:01.04
You see to it.'
00:24:01.07\00:24:02.37
And all the people answered and
said, 'His blood be on us and
00:24:02.40\00:24:04.94
our children.'"
00:24:04.97\00:24:06.27
All right, and
your question on that?
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Cedric: We--should we be
careful what we pray for?
00:24:08.94\00:24:12.21
Jëan: Well, yeah, we do want to
be careful of what we pray, but
00:24:12.25\00:24:15.45
this was not so much a prayer
from them, but declaring that,
00:24:15.48\00:24:22.19
you know, we don't want Jesus.
00:24:22.22\00:24:23.63
Even if it means that His blood
is going to be on us and our
00:24:23.66\00:24:26.96
children, we don't care.
00:24:27.00\00:24:28.33
We don't want Jesus.
00:24:28.36\00:24:29.76
Now, of course, unfortunately,
that was fulfilled.
00:24:29.80\00:24:33.77
That judgment did come upon
those who crucified Christ and
00:24:33.80\00:24:37.91
upon that generation.
00:24:37.94\00:24:39.77
Forty years later you had the
Romans in 70 AD that came and
00:24:39.81\00:24:43.18
surrounded the city of Jerusalem
and by the end of that, not only
00:24:43.21\00:24:47.22
was the city completely
destroyed in the temple, but
00:24:47.25\00:24:49.48
thousands and thousands of Jews
were killed and many more were
00:24:49.52\00:24:53.79
taken as slaves back to Rome
and scattered throughout the
00:24:53.82\00:24:56.86
Roman Empire.
00:24:56.89\00:24:58.29
So, it was a terrible thing.
00:24:58.33\00:25:00.26
Now, why did all those
bad things happen to them?
00:25:00.30\00:25:02.43
Well, if you reject God's
protection, you're left at the
00:25:02.46\00:25:06.37
control of God's enemy,
the devil, and the devil hates
00:25:06.40\00:25:11.47
God's people.
00:25:11.51\00:25:12.87
And so, when they rejected Jesus
as their Messiah--remember, when
00:25:12.91\00:25:17.21
Jesus looked over
Jerusalem, He wept.
00:25:17.25\00:25:19.05
He said, "O Jerusalem,
Jerusalem, thou that kills the
00:25:19.08\00:25:21.05
prophets, and those
that are sent unto you.
00:25:21.08\00:25:23.32
How I've longed to gather you
together, even as a hen gathers
00:25:23.35\00:25:25.89
the chicks under her
wings, but you would not come."
00:25:25.92\00:25:28.99
As a result of them rejecting
Jesus, God's protection was
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withdrawn and the Romans came
upon them, and that verse was
00:25:33.26\00:25:37.47
very literally fulfilled in
the destruction of Jerusalem in
00:25:37.50\00:25:40.80
70 AD.
00:25:40.84\00:25:42.24
And of course, throughout
history, throughout the last
00:25:42.27\00:25:45.17
2000 years, it seems as though
the Jewish people have faced all
00:25:45.21\00:25:48.48
kinds of persecution and trials.
00:25:48.51\00:25:51.85
Now, that doesn't mean that
individual Jews, of course, they
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can be saved, individual.
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Doesn't matter whether you're
a Jew or Gentile, if you receive
00:25:55.68\00:25:58.22
Jesus, you're part of Abraham's
seed and you are saved.
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But as a nation, as a
people, they have faced lots of
00:26:02.09\00:26:06.03
persecution over
the past 2000 years.
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Our next caller is
Larry listening in Michigan.
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Larry, you're on the air.
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Welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
00:30:31.09\00:30:33.60
Larry: Hi there, Pastor Ross.
00:30:33.63\00:30:35.50
Jëan: Hi, thanks for calling.
00:30:35.53\00:30:37.73
Larry: I got a couple of
scriptures, if you could read
00:30:37.77\00:30:40.64
them for people who might be
driving, but it's Matthew 24:16
00:30:40.67\00:30:43.91
through 18, then 1
kings 17:2 through 6.
00:30:43.94\00:30:48.88
Jëan: All right, let me
look at Matthew 24:16 here.
00:30:48.91\00:30:51.85
You say 16 to 18?
00:30:51.88\00:30:54.25
Larry: Yeah.
00:30:54.28\00:30:55.52
Jëan: Okay, Jesus is speaking,
He says, "Then let those who
00:30:55.55\00:30:57.15
are in Judea
flee to the mountains.
00:30:57.19\00:30:59.65
Let him not--let him who is on
the housetop not go down to take
00:30:59.69\00:31:02.46
anything out of his house.
00:31:02.49\00:31:03.73
And let him who is in the field
not go back to get his clothes."
00:31:03.76\00:31:07.73
All right.
00:31:07.76\00:31:09.03
And what was the other verse?
00:31:09.06\00:31:10.37
Larry: 1 Kings
chapter 17, verses 2 to 6.
00:31:10.40\00:31:15.60
Jëan: 1 Kings chapter 17, verse
2, it says, "Then the word of
00:31:15.64\00:31:19.07
the Lord came to Him, saying,
'Get away from here and turn
00:31:19.11\00:31:22.11
eastward, and hide
by the brook Cherith,
00:31:22.14\00:31:24.71
which flows into the Jordan.
00:31:24.75\00:31:26.92
And it will be that you shall
drink from the brook, and I have
00:31:26.95\00:31:29.62
commanded the
ravens to feed you there.'
00:31:29.65\00:31:32.15
So he went and did according
to the word of the Lord, for he
00:31:32.19\00:31:34.99
went and stayed by the
brook Cherith, which flowed into
00:31:35.02\00:31:37.56
the Jordan.
00:31:37.59\00:31:38.89
And the ravens brought him bread
and meat in the morning, and
00:31:38.93\00:31:41.43
bread and meat in the evening;
and he drank from the brook."
00:31:41.46\00:31:44.80
Okay, and your
question about that?
00:31:44.83\00:31:48.10
Larry: So we know the flesh
is actually the fruit, not meat,
00:31:48.14\00:31:50.81
but my question is, is the Lord
going to take care of us like
00:31:50.84\00:31:54.58
that too, then,
when we have to flee?
00:31:54.61\00:31:57.15
Like, because I know--because
with, you know, Israelites
00:31:57.18\00:32:00.18
didn't have to worry about
changing their clothes, shoes.
00:32:00.22\00:32:03.42
Jëan: Right.
00:32:03.45\00:32:04.75
When the children of Israel were
delivered and taken from Egypt
00:32:04.79\00:32:06.89
to the Promised Land, throughout
the wilderness wanderings, God
00:32:06.92\00:32:09.42
provided for them both food,
manna, and He also provided for
00:32:09.46\00:32:13.03
them all their water.
00:32:13.06\00:32:14.50
It spoke about
water coming from a rock.
00:32:14.56\00:32:16.97
And here you find God taking
care of His prophet Elijah when
00:32:17.00\00:32:21.27
he had to flee out, when there
was this terrible drought and he
00:32:21.30\00:32:24.77
was being
persecuted by Ahab and Jezebel.
00:32:24.81\00:32:27.04
God provided for him.
00:32:27.08\00:32:29.31
So likewise at the end of time.
00:32:29.34\00:32:30.75
God is going to
provide for His people.
00:32:30.78\00:32:33.21
The Bible says that your bread
and water shall be sure, meaning
00:32:33.25\00:32:36.79
that God'll provide your needs.
00:32:36.82\00:32:38.92
Doesn't mean that you're going
to, you know, have a ten course
00:32:38.95\00:32:41.89
meal every day, but your bread
and your water will be sure.
00:32:41.92\00:32:44.99
God will provide and
take care of His people.
00:32:45.03\00:32:47.23
And you know, I'd rather be
in the mountains in a desolate
00:32:47.23\00:32:50.47
region with bread and water and
with the blessing and the hope
00:32:50.50\00:32:55.04
of the Second Coming than living
in a palace surrounded by all
00:32:55.07\00:32:58.84
the dainties and then receive
the seven last plagues and end
00:32:58.87\00:33:02.24
up losing your eternal life.
00:33:02.28\00:33:04.15
So, a little bit with God's
blessing is a much better than a
00:33:04.18\00:33:07.18
lot without God's blessing.
00:33:07.22\00:33:08.85
So, yes, God promises to provide
and take care of us in that time
00:33:08.88\00:33:13.05
of trouble.
00:33:13.09\00:33:14.42
Does that help, Larry?
00:33:14.46\00:33:16.26
Larry: Yes, it does.
00:33:16.29\00:33:17.63
Jëan: Okay, thank you.
00:33:17.66\00:33:18.96
You know, I mentioned a Psalm
a little earlier that is good
00:33:18.99\00:33:21.10
to read.
00:33:21.13\00:33:22.43
Psalm 91 I think describes
the experience of God's people
00:33:22.46\00:33:24.83
during the plagues when they
are poured out and how God will
00:33:24.87\00:33:27.50
provide for them
and take care of them.
00:33:27.54\00:33:29.34
It's another
wonderful promise in scripture.
00:33:29.37\00:33:31.64
Our next caller is
Kim, listening in Iowa.
00:33:31.67\00:33:34.24
Kim, welcome to the program.
00:33:34.28\00:33:35.58
You got a question.
00:33:35.61\00:33:37.08
Kim: I do have a question.
00:33:37.11\00:33:39.51
I'm not quite sure
how to phrase this.
00:33:39.55\00:33:41.38
I was just wondering if it's
biblical or not to bring your
00:33:41.42\00:33:47.76
pets into the sanctuary
for your worship service.
00:33:47.79\00:33:52.56
Jëan: All right,
is it okay to bring--
00:33:52.59\00:33:53.93
Kim: This is happening at--
00:33:53.96\00:33:55.23
Jëan: At your church?
00:33:55.26\00:33:56.60
Now, you're talking about like,
you know, like dogs, I guess?
00:33:56.63\00:33:59.83
Bringing a pet dog to church?
00:33:59.87\00:34:01.70
Well, you know, I think in the
case of a service animal, you
00:34:01.74\00:34:05.91
know, if a person is blind and
they need a service animal to
00:34:05.94\00:34:09.61
guide them when they come to
church, usually those dogs are
00:34:09.64\00:34:12.85
very well trained.
00:34:12.88\00:34:14.58
They've been trained
to be in public places.
00:34:14.62\00:34:17.22
They behave, they're quiet, they
will sit beside the person, and
00:34:17.25\00:34:21.59
they serve a very specific
purpose, that of guiding a
00:34:21.62\00:34:25.26
person that has a disability,
in this case, somebody that
00:34:25.29\00:34:28.76
is blind.
00:34:28.80\00:34:30.13
But just to bring dogs and cats
and birds into the sanctuary,
00:34:30.17\00:34:34.24
just for the sake of bringing
them to church, I think we want
00:34:34.27\00:34:38.11
to be careful.
00:34:38.14\00:34:39.44
First of all, the church is a
holy place and we want to treat
00:34:39.47\00:34:41.91
it with reverence.
00:34:41.94\00:34:43.35
We don't want to be
running around in the church.
00:34:43.38\00:34:45.65
We got to tell the children,
"Don't run in the sanctuary.
00:34:45.68\00:34:48.05
This is a holy place."
00:34:48.08\00:34:49.65
We usually dress up when
we go to church because we are
00:34:49.68\00:34:52.32
entering into
the presence of God.
00:34:52.35\00:34:53.89
It's an act of worship.
00:34:53.92\00:34:55.56
We don't talk
loudly in the church.
00:34:55.59\00:34:58.56
We talk quietly and we talk
reverently because we are aware
00:34:58.59\00:35:03.30
of God's presence.
00:35:03.33\00:35:04.67
So, taking all that into
consideration, we probably don't
00:35:04.70\00:35:07.14
want anything in the church that
is going to distract from the
00:35:07.17\00:35:10.17
reason why we are
there, that of worship.
00:35:10.21\00:35:12.47
And to bring a pet to church or
a dog or some animal that might
00:35:12.51\00:35:16.68
bark or others will see it or
children will be distracted by
00:35:16.71\00:35:19.68
it, I don't think
it's a good practice.
00:35:19.71\00:35:21.92
Now, if you're doing a
children's story and you're
00:35:21.95\00:35:24.45
illustrating the children's
story and you bring a little
00:35:24.49\00:35:26.86
baby chick in and, you know, you
show the children the chick and
00:35:26.89\00:35:30.53
you talk about the animal or
so on, and then you take it out,
00:35:30.56\00:35:33.09
that's probably fine.
00:35:33.13\00:35:34.40
But on a regular basis to bring
your pets to church, I would
00:35:34.46\00:35:38.33
discourage that.
00:35:38.37\00:35:39.67
I know sometimes folks are very
attached to their animals and
00:35:39.70\00:35:43.04
they want to
take them everywhere.
00:35:43.07\00:35:44.37
But when it comes to church, I
would say, you know, leave them
00:35:44.41\00:35:46.91
for a couple of hours at home
or in a safe place where they're
00:35:46.94\00:35:49.58
taken care of.
00:35:49.61\00:35:50.95
That way, you're not a
distraction to other people that
00:35:50.98\00:35:53.52
come to church.
00:35:53.55\00:35:54.85
Does that help, Kim?
00:35:54.88\00:35:56.99
Kim: Yeah, it does.
00:35:57.02\00:35:58.32
Thank you so
much. I appreciate it.
00:35:58.35\00:36:01.09
Jëan: All right,
thanks for your call.
00:36:01.12\00:36:02.46
Our next caller that we have
is Lyn, listening in Arizona.
00:36:02.49\00:36:06.43
Let's see. Lyn,
welcome to the program.
00:36:06.46\00:36:08.46
Lyn: Yes, thank you.
Hi, there, Pastor Jëan.
00:36:08.50\00:36:10.77
Jëan: Hi. Thanks for calling.
00:36:10.80\00:36:12.47
Lyn: Listen, this--a lot
of people may not even observe
00:36:12.50\00:36:16.24
this, but back in--when
I was younger, and I'm 60,
00:36:16.27\00:36:19.01
always--well, I'm 67 now, and
when I was younger, like, in my
00:36:19.04\00:36:24.61
20s and I went to church with
my family, we were dedicated
00:36:24.65\00:36:28.18
Christians--but make a
long story short, on Easter they
00:36:28.22\00:36:31.42
celebrated three days, you know,
Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and he
00:36:31.45\00:36:35.52
rose on Monday, because a lot of
businesses I remember, even when
00:36:35.56\00:36:39.33
I was 20, and, you know,
would close on Easter Monday.
00:36:39.36\00:36:43.57
And my dad had an insurance
agency and he closed on Good
00:36:43.60\00:36:46.70
Friday and Easter
Monday for several years.
00:36:46.74\00:36:49.80
And what do you say about that?
00:36:49.84\00:36:51.94
Jëan: If you look at the, you
know, the Easter weekend or the
00:36:51.97\00:36:54.38
Passover, if you look at
the biblical record, of course,
00:36:54.41\00:36:57.05
Jesus died on Friday.
00:36:57.08\00:36:58.85
He died about 3 in the
afternoon, and He was then
00:36:58.88\00:37:03.02
placed in--or He was on
the cross and He said He--right
00:37:03.05\00:37:06.62
around 3 o'clock, I
think closer to a little
00:37:06.65\00:37:08.62
after that, Christ died.
00:37:08.66\00:37:09.99
Then He was placed in the tomb.
00:37:10.03\00:37:11.26
He was there Friday evening, He
was there all day Saturday, and
00:37:11.29\00:37:14.40
then He rose
early Sunday morning.
00:37:14.46\00:37:17.93
So, you know, that's the
biblical account and you can, of
00:37:17.97\00:37:20.54
course, read that in
the Gospels, that makes it
00:37:20.57\00:37:22.14
pretty clear.
00:37:22.17\00:37:23.51
Now, what we call Easter today
doesn't exactly fall on those
00:37:23.54\00:37:27.24
same days because, you know,
dates in the calendar move from
00:37:27.28\00:37:31.85
day to day, just
like your birthday.
00:37:31.88\00:37:33.28
It moves.
00:37:33.31\00:37:34.62
The 25th of December moves
throughout the week if it's
00:37:34.65\00:37:37.95
based on a date on the calendar.
00:37:37.99\00:37:40.29
But, you know, the medieval
church was the first to kind of
00:37:40.32\00:37:42.86
select a weekend close to the
Passover and said, "All right,
00:37:42.89\00:37:45.19
we're going to celebrate Easter
on this weekend," and they came
00:37:45.23\00:37:48.26
up with the idea of
something special on Sunday.
00:37:48.30\00:37:50.83
Now, it's probably okay to
talk about the Resurrection,
00:37:50.87\00:37:53.84
absolutely, and the death of
Christ, that is important, but
00:37:53.87\00:37:56.94
no way in the Bible does it tell
us to make those days holy days.
00:37:56.97\00:38:01.14
The only day holy, within that
weekend, was the seventh-day
00:38:01.18\00:38:04.11
Sabbath, but that came
because of the Ten Commandments.
00:38:04.15\00:38:06.82
But Friday is not a holy day,
neither is Sunday a holy day,
00:38:06.85\00:38:11.15
nor Monday if, you know, your
calendar--first day of the week
00:38:11.19\00:38:14.89
starts on Monday.
00:38:14.92\00:38:16.29
But to remember the death,
burial, and Resurrection of
00:38:16.32\00:38:18.96
Christ around the Passover,
around Easter time is--there's
00:38:18.99\00:38:22.33
nothing wrong with that.
00:38:22.36\00:38:23.80
So, yeah, if you're going to
follow the Bible, Jesus rose on
00:38:23.83\00:38:26.84
Sunday morning, early in
the morning, as the Bible says.
00:38:26.87\00:38:31.17
Hope that helps, Lyn.
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Next caller that we have is
Robert, listening in Washington.
00:38:32.87\00:38:35.58
Robert, welcome to the program.
00:38:35.61\00:38:37.65
Robert: Hello, Pastor Ross.
00:38:37.68\00:38:38.98
Jëan: Yeah, welcome.
00:38:39.01\00:38:40.35
Robert: Was interested in
knowing about Revelation 10:10
00:38:40.38\00:38:44.65
and 11.
00:38:44.69\00:38:45.99
I know Revelation is
a specialty of yours.
00:38:46.02\00:38:48.42
I guess I want to focus on verse
11, although you might have to
00:38:48.46\00:38:51.66
explain verse 10, though.
00:38:51.69\00:38:54.50
I was interested in what it
means by, "You must prophesy
00:38:54.56\00:38:57.43
again about many people,
nations, tongues, and kings."
00:38:57.47\00:39:01.24
Might need to talk
to--about verse 10, too.
00:39:01.27\00:39:03.51
Jëan: Sure. I'll be happy to.
00:39:03.54\00:39:05.27
Yeah, let me
give the background.
00:39:05.31\00:39:06.61
Thanks for the question.
00:39:06.64\00:39:07.94
I do like the
book of Revelation.
00:39:07.98\00:39:09.28
It's one of my favorites.
00:39:09.31\00:39:10.61
Revelation chapter 10.
00:39:10.65\00:39:11.95
You find at the beginning of
the chapter an angel coming down
00:39:11.98\00:39:14.28
from heaven.
00:39:14.32\00:39:15.65
The angel has--represents a
messenger or a heaven brought
00:39:15.68\00:39:19.65
message, and he has a little
book that's open in his hand,
00:39:19.69\00:39:22.59
and he sets his one foot upon
the earth and his other foot
00:39:22.62\00:39:24.79
upon the sea.
00:39:24.83\00:39:26.13
And then he lifts his hand
towards heaven and swears by Him
00:39:26.16\00:39:28.60
who lives forever and ever, who
created the heavens and things
00:39:28.63\00:39:30.83
that are there in the earth, and
the things that are there in the
00:39:30.87\00:39:33.23
sea, and the things that are
therein, that there should be
00:39:33.27\00:39:35.90
time no longer.
00:39:35.94\00:39:37.27
But at the sounding of the
seventh trumpet, when the angel
00:39:37.31\00:39:40.24
begins to sound, then the
mystery of God will be revealed.
00:39:40.28\00:39:43.58
Now, the whole chapter
Revelation chapter 10 is a
00:39:43.61\00:39:45.85
description of a great advent
awakening that began in the
00:39:45.88\00:39:50.59
early 1800s, but really
culminated around 1843, 1844
00:39:50.62\00:39:56.22
when people began to study
the little book of the prophet
00:39:56.26\00:39:58.93
Daniel in the Old Testament.
00:39:58.96\00:40:00.90
And based upon their study
of the little book of Daniel, in
00:40:00.93\00:40:03.67
particular Daniel 8:14, they
read about something called 2300
00:40:03.70\00:40:09.04
day prophecy.
00:40:09.07\00:40:10.37
Now, one prophetic day equals
one literal year, and 2300 days
00:40:10.41\00:40:13.84
is literally 2300 years.
00:40:13.88\00:40:16.51
They also found in Daniel
chapter 9 that the starting
00:40:16.54\00:40:19.11
point of the 2300 years was
with the decree to restore and
00:40:19.15\00:40:23.18
rebuild Jerusalem, which went
into effect in 457 BC, 457 BC.
00:40:23.22\00:40:29.09
And so, they just did the math
and, based upon the calculation,
00:40:29.12\00:40:32.23
that time period would end 1844,
1843 they initially thought, but
00:40:32.26\00:40:38.47
further calculations--they
realized 1844.
00:40:38.50\00:40:41.97
Well, they thought that the
cleansing of the sanctuary that
00:40:42.00\00:40:44.54
was spoken of in Daniel chapter
8, verse 14 was the cleansing of
00:40:44.57\00:40:48.14
the earth by fire at
the Second Coming of Christ.
00:40:48.18\00:40:51.18
So, they thought
Jesus was going to come.
00:40:51.21\00:40:54.02
And of course, this led to
a great religious awakening.
00:40:54.05\00:40:56.75
That's why, when you read on in
Revelation chapter 10, John is
00:40:56.79\00:40:59.55
told to take the little book
out of the angel's hand, which
00:40:59.59\00:41:02.09
represents the book
of Daniel, to eat it up.
00:41:02.12\00:41:05.06
It would be sweet in his
mouth, but it would make his
00:41:05.09\00:41:07.60
stomach bitter.
00:41:07.60\00:41:08.90
To eat the book means
to study it, to receive it.
00:41:08.93\00:41:11.17
Jeremiah 15:16 says, "Thy words
were found, and I did eat them;
00:41:11.20\00:41:15.60
and they were unto me
the joy and the rejoicing of
00:41:15.64\00:41:17.21
my heart..."
00:41:17.24\00:41:18.54
So, to eat the book
means to study it, it means to
00:41:18.57\00:41:20.14
receive it.
00:41:20.18\00:41:21.48
But then, after they had that
sweet hope of the soon coming of
00:41:21.51\00:41:24.71
Christ, when Jesus didn't come
as they had expected, they were
00:41:24.75\00:41:28.72
bitterly disappointed.
00:41:28.75\00:41:30.35
It was only then that they began
to realize that the cleansing of
00:41:30.39\00:41:33.12
the sanctuary wasn't Jesus
coming back to the earth, but
00:41:33.15\00:41:35.92
rather that Christ was doing
His final cleansing work, taking
00:41:35.96\00:41:39.96
place in heaven, called
the judgment, the pre-advent
00:41:40.00\00:41:43.13
judgment, when a cleansing work
was to take place on the earth,
00:41:43.16\00:41:47.57
the cleansing of the heart from
sin, the cleansing of the church
00:41:47.60\00:41:50.37
from error, the proclamation
of the truths of scripture.
00:41:50.41\00:41:53.98
That's why you find in verse 11
of Revelation chapter 10 after
00:41:54.01\00:41:58.61
the book is eaten, then the
message is given to John and
00:41:58.65\00:42:01.65
John's playing the part of
these early advent believers.
00:42:01.68\00:42:04.72
"You must prophesy again."
00:42:04.75\00:42:07.19
So they began to realize that
their mission wasn't over, it
00:42:07.22\00:42:09.56
had scarcely begun.
00:42:09.59\00:42:11.33
What was it that
they were to prophesy?
00:42:11.36\00:42:12.86
Well, if you look in Revelation
chapter 14, beginning in verse
00:42:12.89\00:42:15.93
6, you have what we call
the three angels messages, "The
00:42:15.96\00:42:19.53
everlasting gospel that is
to go to every nation, kindred,
00:42:19.57\00:42:22.30
tongue, and people, saying with
a loud voice, 'Fear God, give
00:42:22.34\00:42:25.31
glory to Him, the hour
of His judgment has come."
00:42:25.34\00:42:28.54
That ties in with
what we read in Daniel.
00:42:28.58\00:42:31.18
And then, of course, it
talks about Babylon is fallen.
00:42:31.21\00:42:33.21
We need to worship the Creator,
Babylon is fallen, and warns
00:42:33.25\00:42:36.18
about the beast's
power and its mark.
00:42:36.22\00:42:38.72
So yes, Revelation
chapter 10 is a great study.
00:42:38.75\00:42:41.29
I just kind of flew through it,
but that gives you the context.
00:42:41.32\00:42:44.19
So, it met its fulfillment
around 1843, 1844 more
00:42:44.23\00:42:48.13
specifically if you want to
date for Revelation chapter 10.
00:42:48.16\00:42:51.70
Robert, does that help?
00:42:51.73\00:42:53.37
Robert: Yeah, thank you.
That makes a lot of sense.
00:42:53.40\00:42:55.87
Jëan: All right.
Thanks for calling.
00:42:55.90\00:42:57.67
Next caller that we have.
00:42:57.71\00:42:59.37
Ava-Joe in Georgia.
00:42:59.41\00:43:01.64
Ava-Joe, welcome to the program.
00:43:01.68\00:43:04.11
Ava-Joe: Hi, good
evening, Pastor Ross.
00:43:04.15\00:43:05.65
How are you?
00:43:05.68\00:43:07.02
Jëan: I'm good.
Thanks for calling.
00:43:07.05\00:43:08.35
Ava-Joe: Thank
you for having me.
00:43:08.38\00:43:09.68
I've been listening to you
guys and I really appreciate
00:43:09.72\00:43:12.42
everything that Amazing
Facts does for the entire world.
00:43:12.45\00:43:15.86
But my question is, for those
that are taken with God when
00:43:15.89\00:43:21.50
Jesus first comes, I know that
the wicked will perish, but will
00:43:21.53\00:43:25.30
they be resurrected for the
second judgment or do they just
00:43:25.33\00:43:31.71
remain perished?
00:43:31.74\00:43:33.58
Jëan: All right, now, are you
talking about--you're talking
00:43:33.61\00:43:35.41
about the righteous when Jesus
comes the second time, they are
00:43:35.44\00:43:38.25
resurrected and taken to heaven
or are you talking about a
00:43:38.28\00:43:41.55
special resurrection?
00:43:41.58\00:43:43.45
Ava-Joe: The
second--the judgment.
00:43:43.49\00:43:44.79
The second--the
judgment of damnation.
00:43:44.82\00:43:47.69
Jëan: Okay, all right, yes.
Let me give you the context.
00:43:47.72\00:43:50.19
So, the Bible tells us that when
Jesus comes the second time,
00:43:50.23\00:43:53.93
you've got three categories
of people, you've got the dead,
00:43:53.96\00:43:57.17
you've got the dead righteous,
and you've got the dead
00:43:57.20\00:44:00.64
unrighteous in their graves, and
you've got the living righteous
00:44:00.67\00:44:05.37
and you've got
the living wicked.
00:44:05.41\00:44:07.38
So, maybe four categories.
00:44:07.41\00:44:09.08
So, when Jesus comes the second
time, the living righteous will
00:44:09.11\00:44:13.92
be changed in a moment, in the
twinkling of an eye, they'll be
00:44:13.95\00:44:16.85
caught up to
meet Jesus in the air.
00:44:16.89\00:44:18.85
The graves of the righteous dead
will be opened and they will be
00:44:18.89\00:44:23.66
resurrected with
their immortal bodies.
00:44:23.69\00:44:26.13
Together with the living
righteous they will meet Jesus
00:44:26.16\00:44:29.06
in the air.
00:44:29.10\00:44:30.57
And then, the wicked dead, who
are in their graves, they remain
00:44:30.60\00:44:34.87
in their graves.
00:44:34.90\00:44:36.20
But the wicked who are alive
when Jesus comes a second time,
00:44:36.24\00:44:39.81
they are destroyed with the
brightness of Christ's coming.
00:44:39.84\00:44:42.61
So, you have the righteous with
Jesus in the air and you have
00:44:42.64\00:44:46.31
the wicked all
destroyed on earth.
00:44:46.35\00:44:48.18
Then, the righteous go to heaven
for 1000 years, according to
00:44:48.22\00:44:50.82
Revelation chapter 20.
00:44:50.85\00:44:52.09
Talks about the Millennium, 1000
year reign with Christ, and the
00:44:52.12\00:44:55.52
righteous will be
with Jesus in heaven.
00:44:55.56\00:44:57.63
At the end of the 1000 years,
the New Jerusalem, Revelation
00:44:57.66\00:45:01.36
chapter 21, the New Jerusalem
comes down from God out of
00:45:01.40\00:45:04.50
heaven, and it's at that point
that Jesus sets His feet on the
00:45:04.53\00:45:08.00
Mount of Olives and it opens
up and forms a great valley.
00:45:08.04\00:45:10.81
That's Zachariah
that talks about that.
00:45:10.84\00:45:13.34
The New Jerusalem comes to
rest, and then all the wicked
00:45:13.38\00:45:16.44
are resurrected.
00:45:16.48\00:45:18.01
Revelation chapter 20 calls
this the second resurrection.
00:45:18.05\00:45:21.88
So, the righteous are
resurrected at the First
00:45:21.92\00:45:24.12
Resurrection at the beginning of
the 1000 years, and the wicked
00:45:24.15\00:45:26.49
are resurrected at the end
of the 1000 years called the
00:45:26.52\00:45:28.66
Second Resurrection.
00:45:28.69\00:45:30.03
That's what we call the
Great White Throne Judgment,
00:45:30.06\00:45:32.46
Revelation chapter 20.
00:45:32.49\00:45:34.50
And then, at the end of that
judgment, the wicked mount their
00:45:34.56\00:45:37.03
attack upon the New
Jerusalem, fire comes down and
00:45:37.07\00:45:40.30
devours them.
00:45:40.34\00:45:41.67
That is the final destruction of
the wicked, otherwise known as
00:45:41.70\00:45:44.51
the lake of fire.
00:45:44.54\00:45:45.87
It is where the wicked and
the earth is cleansed from sin.
00:45:45.91\00:45:49.48
And then, Jesus makes a
new heavens and a new earth.
00:45:49.51\00:45:53.52
So, that's kind of the breakdown
of the First Resurrection and
00:45:53.55\00:45:58.02
the Second Resurrection.
00:45:58.05\00:45:59.49
Does that make sense?
00:45:59.52\00:46:01.09
Ava-Joe: Yes,
thank you so very much.
00:46:01.12\00:46:03.43
Jëan: All right, you're welcome.
00:46:03.46\00:46:04.79
You know, we do have a
study guide that talks about the
00:46:04.83\00:46:06.43
1000 years.
00:46:06.46\00:46:07.76
It's called, "1000 Years of
Peace," and anyone wanting to
00:46:07.76\00:46:10.63
learn more about this, you
read about it in Revelation
00:46:10.67\00:46:12.70
chapter 20.
00:46:12.73\00:46:14.07
The number to call for that is
800-835-6747 and you can ask for
00:46:14.10\00:46:18.94
that study guide.
00:46:18.97\00:46:20.31
It's called,
"1000 Years of Peace."
00:46:20.34\00:46:21.71
The number, again, is
800-835-6747 or you can dial
00:46:21.74\00:46:26.92
pound 250 on your smartphone and
just say, "Bible Answers Live"
00:46:26.95\00:46:31.25
and ask for it by
name, "1000 Years of Peace."
00:46:31.29\00:46:34.16
We've got James
listening in Michigan.
00:46:34.19\00:46:36.56
Detroit, Michigan.
00:46:36.59\00:46:37.89
James, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:46:37.93\00:46:39.73
James: Hello, Pastor Ross.
00:46:39.76\00:46:41.06
How are you and thank
you for taking my call.
00:46:41.10\00:46:43.10
Jëan: I'm doing
well. Thanks for calling.
00:46:43.13\00:46:45.23
James: Good.
00:46:45.27\00:46:46.74
My question is, was Satan cast
out of heaven before the earth
00:46:46.77\00:46:52.84
was created or after
the earth was created?
00:46:52.87\00:46:56.75
Jëan: Okay, the war in
heaven that you read about in
00:46:56.78\00:46:59.65
Revelation chapter 12, it says
there was--let me just read it.
00:46:59.68\00:47:02.68
It's right here.
00:47:02.72\00:47:04.05
Revelation 12, verse 7.
00:47:04.09\00:47:05.39
It says, "And war
broke out in heaven:
00:47:05.42\00:47:07.49
Michael and his angels fought
with the dragon; and the dragon
00:47:07.52\00:47:10.39
and his angels fought..."
00:47:10.43\00:47:11.96
So, there's war in
heaven between Michael.
00:47:11.99\00:47:13.93
Michael is the
prophetic name of Jesus.
00:47:13.96\00:47:16.36
They're not
saying Jesus is an angel.
00:47:16.40\00:47:18.57
Michael just simply
means--refers to Jesus in the
00:47:18.60\00:47:21.84
prophetic sense.
00:47:21.87\00:47:23.34
So, Jesus and His angels fought
with the dragon, or Satan and
00:47:23.37\00:47:27.24
his angels.
00:47:27.28\00:47:28.61
So, one third of the angels
joined Satan in his rebellion
00:47:28.64\00:47:30.61
against God.
00:47:30.65\00:47:31.98
We know that from Revelation
chapter 12, but eventually the
00:47:32.01\00:47:35.98
devil was cast out of heaven
and he sort of went around the
00:47:36.02\00:47:39.29
universe looking for a place
that he could kind of establish
00:47:39.32\00:47:42.09
as his headquarters in
his rebellion against God.
00:47:42.12\00:47:46.33
Right around that time, and the
Bible doesn't tell us how much
00:47:46.36\00:47:48.96
time passed between the
war in heaven and the creation
00:47:49.00\00:47:52.60
of earth.
00:47:52.63\00:47:53.94
It probably wasn't too long.
00:47:53.97\00:47:55.40
But after the devil and his
angels are cast out of heaven,
00:47:55.44\00:47:57.74
then God creates planet Earth,
and the devil looks, and here's
00:47:57.77\00:48:02.04
Adam and Eve and he thinks, why,
if I can only get them to side
00:48:02.08\00:48:05.41
with me, then I can make
the earth my headquarters.
00:48:05.45\00:48:09.75
And that's when he came and
he appeared as a serpent in the
00:48:09.78\00:48:12.79
garden of Eden.
00:48:12.82\00:48:14.16
And of course, you know the
story, he is able to deceive
00:48:14.19\00:48:15.79
Adam and Eve to trust--or
distrust God, disobey God, and
00:48:15.82\00:48:20.30
to believe him.
00:48:20.33\00:48:21.63
They were deceived.
00:48:21.66\00:48:22.96
Of course, that opened up the
floodgates of sorrow and death.
00:48:23.00\00:48:26.27
But God did not abandon mankind.
00:48:26.30\00:48:28.50
Of course, the plan of
redemption also began through
00:48:28.54\00:48:31.61
the sacrificing of the Lamb,
which ultimately pointed to
00:48:31.64\00:48:34.78
Jesus that would take
away the sins of the world.
00:48:34.81\00:48:37.28
So, yes, Satan is cast
out of heaven before Creation.
00:48:37.31\00:48:40.95
We don't know how much--or how
much time elapsed, but then he
00:48:40.98\00:48:44.65
was able to come and
deceive Adam and Eve.
00:48:44.69\00:48:47.29
Does that help, James?
00:48:47.32\00:48:48.79
James: Yes, thank you so much.
00:48:48.82\00:48:50.59
That answered my question.
00:48:50.63\00:48:52.33
I appreciate the call and
thank you for Amazing Facts.
00:48:52.36\00:48:55.63
Jëan: Oh, you're
welcome. Thanks for calling.
00:48:55.66\00:48:57.83
Next caller that we
have--let's see, Glenn in Ohio.
00:48:57.87\00:49:00.50
Glenn, welcome to the program.
00:49:00.54\00:49:02.47
Glenn: Good evening, sir.
00:49:02.50\00:49:03.81
Thanks for taking my call.
00:49:03.84\00:49:05.44
Jëan: Absolutely.
00:49:05.47\00:49:06.81
Glenn: You know, as a
young lad, I learned a lesson.
00:49:06.84\00:49:09.38
That is, when reading the
Bible, if it seems to run into a
00:49:09.41\00:49:12.85
conflict, I need to remember
that I don't understand.
00:49:12.88\00:49:17.12
That's the answer to the
conflict because there are no
00:49:17.15\00:49:19.39
conflicts in the Bible.
00:49:19.42\00:49:20.82
Jëan: Right, we
got to study further.
00:49:20.86\00:49:22.19
Glenn: But in reading
Genesis 6:6, there seems to be a
00:49:22.22\00:49:26.09
conflict, and I'm just
interested in an explanation
00:49:26.13\00:49:29.56
for something that questions
the omniscience of God.
00:49:29.60\00:49:32.80
Jëan: Let me read the verse
and then let's talk about it.
00:49:32.83\00:49:34.57
Says, "And the Lord was sorry
that He had made man on the
00:49:34.60\00:49:37.41
earth, and He was
grieved in His heart."
00:49:37.44\00:49:40.61
So, your question is?
00:49:40.64\00:49:42.11
Glenn: He repented.
00:49:42.14\00:49:43.48
Jëan: He repented, yes.
00:49:43.51\00:49:44.81
There's different words
that are sometimes used.
00:49:44.85\00:49:46.85
I'm reading from
the New King James.
00:49:46.88\00:49:48.22
If you read the King
James it says that God repented.
00:49:48.25\00:49:50.99
The idea there, meaning that He
was sorrowful or He was pained.
00:49:51.02\00:49:56.69
The word repentance, again,
depending upon the context where
00:49:56.73\00:49:59.66
it's used, it's not that God
repented from anything that He
00:49:59.69\00:50:02.03
did wrong, because God's
perfect, but pain came to the
00:50:02.06\00:50:05.67
heart of God.
00:50:05.70\00:50:07.04
He was sorry when He saw
the way man was treating man.
00:50:07.07\00:50:10.04
Because the Bible says, violence
filled the earth and every
00:50:10.07\00:50:12.27
imagination of the heart
was evil continually and God
00:50:12.31\00:50:15.64
was pained.
00:50:15.68\00:50:17.01
He was sorry about what
had happened on the earth.
00:50:17.05\00:50:19.71
So, it's not a regret.
00:50:19.75\00:50:21.05
Glenn: But He knew
that it was coming.
00:50:21.08\00:50:22.42
Jëan: He did.
00:50:22.45\00:50:23.75
God knows the end from
the beginning and yet He still
00:50:23.79\00:50:25.69
allowed it.
00:50:25.72\00:50:27.02
And why did He allow it?
00:50:27.06\00:50:28.39
Because God
respects freedom of choice.
00:50:28.42\00:50:30.73
I mean, He knew that when He
created Adam and Eve, that they
00:50:30.76\00:50:33.63
would eventually rebel and that
it would cost the very life of
00:50:33.66\00:50:36.53
His Son, that
Jesus would have to die.
00:50:36.56\00:50:39.27
And yet, God still
continued to create man.
00:50:39.30\00:50:42.80
So, freedom is
very important to God.
00:50:42.84\00:50:45.61
And why is freedom so important?
00:50:45.64\00:50:46.94
Because God can't accept worship
that is not freely given.
00:50:46.98\00:50:52.85
God can't accept
love that is forced.
00:50:52.88\00:50:55.82
It has to be freely given.
00:50:55.85\00:50:57.99
We have to choose.
00:50:58.02\00:50:59.35
But there's a risk.
00:50:59.39\00:51:00.69
If you love someone and you give
them freedom to choose, there's
00:51:00.72\00:51:02.66
a risk that they're not always
going to do what you want them
00:51:02.69\00:51:05.06
to do.
00:51:05.09\00:51:06.33
So, even though God knew that
would happen, He still allowed
00:51:06.36\00:51:09.50
freedom, allowed them to
make their choice, but then He
00:51:09.53\00:51:13.27
pledged Himself to provide a
way of salvation so that we can
00:51:13.30\00:51:17.51
live forever.
00:51:17.54\00:51:18.87
Glenn: It says a
lot about free will.
00:51:18.91\00:51:20.58
Jëan: It's very important.
00:51:20.61\00:51:21.91
Glenn: And I'd like to
call another time and ask you
00:51:21.94\00:51:24.15
something about free will.
00:51:24.18\00:51:26.28
And the reality and the
truth and the wonderness of God.
00:51:26.31\00:51:29.12
I agree with you, sir.
00:51:29.15\00:51:30.49
Thanks for the explanation.
00:51:30.52\00:51:31.82
Jëan: Thank you
for calling, Glenn.
00:51:31.85\00:51:33.15
We appreciate it.
00:51:33.19\00:51:34.52
All right, the next caller that
we have is Darryl, listening
00:51:34.56\00:51:36.12
in Canada.
00:51:36.16\00:51:37.49
Daryl, welcome to the program.
00:51:37.53\00:51:40.10
Daryl: Thank you, pastor.
00:51:40.13\00:51:42.33
Jëan: Yeah. Thanks for calling.
00:51:42.36\00:51:43.77
Daryl: I have a grandson,
five and six, and then two twin
00:51:43.80\00:51:49.77
girls due in July.
00:51:49.80\00:51:51.91
Jëan: Oh, congratulations.
00:51:51.94\00:51:54.11
Daryl: Thank you.
00:51:54.14\00:51:55.48
My question is, how will
God--like, if Jesus was to
00:51:55.51\00:51:58.68
return today, how would God deal
with the resurrected bodies of
00:51:58.71\00:52:02.85
the babies, born and unborn?
00:52:02.88\00:52:05.35
Jëan: Okay, well, I think
all of the children that'll be
00:52:05.39\00:52:09.19
resurrected, or maybe that'll
be alive at the Second Coming of
00:52:09.22\00:52:13.13
Christ, they, along
with the adults, will receive
00:52:13.16\00:52:16.70
glorified bodies.
00:52:16.73\00:52:18.30
However, they will receive
glorified baby bodies, you might
00:52:18.33\00:52:21.44
say, or glorified teenager
bodies, or wherever they are
00:52:21.47\00:52:25.67
in life.
00:52:25.71\00:52:26.94
So, if it is a baby and the baby
receives a glorified baby body,
00:52:26.98\00:52:31.25
whatever that is, of course, we
don't know, but the child will
00:52:31.28\00:52:35.25
grow up.
00:52:35.28\00:52:36.62
Isaiah says that "they shall
grow up as calves in the stall,"
00:52:36.65\00:52:40.69
and it talks about children
that are playing in the streets,
00:52:40.72\00:52:44.23
playing with the animals.
00:52:44.26\00:52:45.56
So, there will be
children in heaven.
00:52:45.59\00:52:47.23
They'll probably grow a little
bit slower than they grow here
00:52:47.30\00:52:50.70
on the earth, but eventually
children will grow up.
00:52:50.73\00:52:53.80
So, it'll be kind of neat to see
how these children grow up in
00:52:53.84\00:52:57.97
heaven as they learn in a
perfect environment, in the
00:52:58.01\00:53:01.51
presence of God, the presence
of the angels, perfect love.
00:53:01.54\00:53:05.98
If ever you could choose where
you want to grow up, you'd want
00:53:06.01\00:53:09.48
to grow up in heaven.
00:53:09.52\00:53:10.82
So, yes, God is going to
take care of the babies, the
00:53:10.85\00:53:13.86
children, those who are
resurrected when He comes again.
00:53:13.89\00:53:16.89
You know, we do have a book that
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Time for one more
caller before we take a break.
00:53:43.62\00:53:45.75
Angela, we got
just about a minute.
00:53:45.79\00:53:47.42
What is your question?
00:53:47.46\00:53:48.79
Angela from New York.
00:53:48.82\00:53:50.13
Angela: Yes, okay.
00:53:50.16\00:53:51.63
So, my question is, I, you know,
I believe that Jesus Christ is
00:53:51.66\00:53:56.53
my Lord and Savior, but my
question is, why isn't He in the
00:53:56.56\00:54:00.94
Old Testament, but
He's in the New Testament?
00:54:00.97\00:54:03.44
Jëan: Okay, good question.
00:54:03.47\00:54:04.81
Well, Jesus is in
the Old Testament.
00:54:04.84\00:54:06.98
He is all over
the Old Testament.
00:54:07.01\00:54:08.91
He is sometimes referred
to as the angel of the Lord,
00:54:08.94\00:54:11.85
the messenger.
00:54:11.88\00:54:13.18
The word angel means messenger.
00:54:13.21\00:54:14.68
It was Jesus in the pillar
of fire that led the children
00:54:14.72\00:54:17.92
of Israel.
00:54:17.95\00:54:19.29
It was Jesus in the type of
the sacrifices, the lamb, in the
00:54:19.32\00:54:23.09
priests, in the whole service.
00:54:23.12\00:54:25.13
It was Christ that
was leading His people.
00:54:25.16\00:54:27.96
And so, yes, Jesus
is in the Old Testament.
00:54:28.00\00:54:30.23
Matter of fact, all of the
Old Testament prophecies point
00:54:30.27\00:54:32.70
to Jesus.
00:54:32.73\00:54:34.04
Of course, Jesus appeared to
Moses at the burning bush and He
00:54:34.07\00:54:36.84
gave Himself the name "I Am."
00:54:36.87\00:54:38.84
That's why Jesus, when He
was in the earth, He said to the
00:54:38.87\00:54:41.64
religious leaders,
"Before Abraham was, I am."
00:54:41.68\00:54:44.48
He used that very same name that
was used at the burning bush.
00:54:44.51\00:54:48.62
So, yes, Jesus is in
the Old Testament in all
00:54:48.65\00:54:51.82
different places.
00:54:51.85\00:54:53.19
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All right, Johnny's asking the
question, "Does the principle of
00:55:50.15\00:55:53.11
tithe apply to gifts received?"
00:55:53.15\00:55:56.15
Well, it depends.
00:55:56.18\00:55:57.49
The principle that we find
in the Bible is that we are to
00:55:57.52\00:56:00.66
tithe on our increase.
00:56:00.69\00:56:02.79
So, if we receive a gift, an
unexpected gift, and, you know,
00:56:02.82\00:56:07.50
we want to thank the Lord
for that gift, it's appropriate.
00:56:07.50\00:56:10.57
Now, that doesn't always mean
if it's a tangible thing that
00:56:10.60\00:56:13.37
somebody gives you.
00:56:13.40\00:56:14.97
Of course, you can't tithe
on that, a car or whatever it is
00:56:15.00\00:56:18.37
you might receive.
00:56:18.41\00:56:19.71
You might wish to give a special
offering at church, a love
00:56:19.74\00:56:22.51
offering, in recognition of
the gift that God has given.
00:56:22.54\00:56:25.35
If it's money that somebody has
given you, yes, you are able to
00:56:25.38\00:56:28.88
tithe on that.
00:56:28.92\00:56:30.25
So, pray for the Spirit to
lead you, but it's always a good
00:56:30.29\00:56:33.72
thing to recognize God as being
the true giver of all things and
00:56:33.76\00:56:38.26
return your tithes to Him.
00:56:38.29\00:56:40.50
All right, Terry's
asking, "Is it true that the Ten
00:56:40.53\00:56:43.30
Commandments are
written on sapphire stone?"
00:56:43.33\00:56:45.67
Well, the Bible doesn't tell us
for sure what type of stone was
00:56:45.70\00:56:48.37
used upon which the Ten
Commandments were written.
00:56:48.40\00:56:51.01
We do know in the Bible that
blue, the color blue, is often
00:56:51.04\00:56:54.01
associated with God's law.
00:56:54.04\00:56:56.18
The priests were told to make
a hem of blue at the border of
00:56:56.21\00:57:00.12
their robes and that was to
remind them of the law of God.
00:57:00.15\00:57:04.05
When they washed their hands
and they washed their feet, they
00:57:04.09\00:57:06.12
would see that blue and
remind them about obedience.
00:57:06.15\00:57:09.79
So, blue is often
associated with the law of God.
00:57:09.82\00:57:12.29
Was the Ten Commandments
written on a sapphire stone?
00:57:12.33\00:57:14.86
Possibly.
00:57:14.93\00:57:16.20
I, you know, the Bible is
not absolutely clear on that.
00:57:16.23\00:57:18.03
I think one day we will
know and that will become true.
00:57:18.07\00:57:22.84
All right, next question that
we have is, "The Bible says the
00:57:22.87\00:57:25.04
wages of sin is death.
00:57:25.07\00:57:26.37
Is it talking about the
first or the second death?"
00:57:26.41\00:57:28.91
When the Bible says the wages of
sin is death, it's talking about
00:57:28.94\00:57:31.38
the second death.
00:57:31.41\00:57:32.71
Now, the first death is
the death that we die now.
00:57:32.75\00:57:35.12
For the believer, death is
described as a sleep in the
00:57:35.15\00:57:38.99
Bible and when Jesus comes
the righteous are going to be
00:57:39.02\00:57:42.19
awakened from that sleep.
00:57:42.22\00:57:43.99
That's why Jesus said,
with reference to Lazarus, "Our
00:57:44.03\00:57:46.83
friend Lazarus sleepeth,"
when he was actually dead.
00:57:46.86\00:57:50.00
Now, true death, as the Bible
describes, is the death that the
00:57:50.03\00:57:54.20
wicked experience at
the end of the 1000 years.
00:57:54.24\00:57:56.37
There is no
hope of resurrection.
00:57:56.40\00:57:58.64
They are forever separated.
00:57:58.67\00:58:00.51
There is a judgment associated
with that final, second death,
00:58:00.54\00:58:05.01
so that is the
ultimate reward for sin.
00:58:05.05\00:58:07.78
That is the wages
of sin, which is death.
00:58:07.82\00:58:09.78
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