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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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Doug Batchelor: Hello, friends.
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Welcome to Amazing
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Would you like to
hear an amazing fact?
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Saddam Hussein, the infamous
former dictator of Iraq, became
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obsessed with the ancient
Babylonian ruler Nebuchadnezzar
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who had conquered
Israel in current-day Iran.
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Saddam saw himself as a modern
reincarnation of Nebuchadnezzar
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who would unite the Arab world
and restore the ancient empire
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of Babylon, but a Hebrew
prophecy in Isaiah 13 clearly
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states ancient Babylon
would never be rebuilt.
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Seeking to prove the Jewish
prediction wrong, in 1986,
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Saddam spent millions
to reconstruct the old site
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of Babylon.
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His delusions came to an end
with his capture following the
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Gulf War and
eventual execution in 2006.
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Now, the ghostly shell of his
immense palace on a hill above
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the ruins of Babylon and the
abandoned construction projects
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stand as a ghostly reminder that
God's prophecies never fail.
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Well, you and I have heard some
stories, Pastor Ross, about the
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great lengths he went to to try
to re-establish himself as the
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ancient ruler of Babylon.
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He had pictures of him and
Nebuchadnezzar everywhere, and
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he was riding in an imitation
charade of Nebuchadnezzar and
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tried to portray himself.
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In reincarnation it wouldn't
have made sense with the Islam
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theology, but he
was kind of fantasizing.
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And he hated Israel so much
that he thought, "I can disprove
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the prophecy.
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I'll rebuild the ancient city."
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Construction stopped twice
during the two Gulf wars and
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then ultimately came to an end.
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And I've heard that--it either
just happened or will happen
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soon; that UNESCO is going
to declare the ruins of Babylon
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a historic site so it can never
be rebuilt, just going to show
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that God's prophecy in Isaiah
13 it'll never be rebuilt.
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It'll never be inhabited.
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It could not be overthrown.
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Jëan Ross: You know, it seems,
Pastor Doug, when you look at
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the Bible, you--sometimes the
Old Testament is being described
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as the story of two cities.
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On the one hand you have
Jerusalem representing, you
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know, God's dwelling place and
the truth and way of salvation,
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then you got the
opposite of that being Babylon.
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And of course historically
you had the Babylonians that
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conquered and destroyed
Jerusalem and took the Jews
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captive, but then God's people
came out of Babylon and rebuilt
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the temple in Jerusalem.
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So that same theme of Babylon
and Jerusalem kind of follows
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all the way not only in the Old
Testament, but we even see some
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of that in the New Testament.
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In the New Testament you
have got a whole chapter talking
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about a woman this
time, and her name is Babylon.
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Doug: Yeah, Babylon is actually
mentioned, I think, six times in
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the book of Revelation,
and chapter 17 pretty clearly
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identifies who Babylon is.
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It's interesting that even
in the New Testament times the
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apostles use the word "Babylon"
to kind of refer to Rome because
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the Romans were occupying Israel
like the Babylonians had once
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done, and--I better not say
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So understanding who Babylon
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Doug: And yeah, it's amazing
that I still run into some
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Christian pastors that say, "Oh
yeah, ancient Babylon is going
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to be rebuilt."
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They're totally missing not only
the prophecy in Isaiah that said
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it would not be but
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Jëan: All right, well, before
we go to the phone lines, as we
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always do let's
start with prayer.
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Dear Father, we thank You once
again that we have this time to
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open up Your Word and study.
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And, Father, we always
want to ask Your blessing upon
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this program.
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Wherever the people might be
who are listening, we just pray,
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Lord, that You'll guide them and
be with us here in the studio as
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we search the Scriptures to
find a clearer understanding of
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Bible truth.
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For we ask this in
Jesus's name, amen.
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Doug: Amen.
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Jëan: We're going to
go to the phone lines.
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We've got Elijah listening in
Arizona, and he has a question
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about the judgment.
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Elijah, welcome to the program.
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Elijah: Yes.
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My question was at the time
when--if you do something and
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you repent, you never
do it again and ask God for
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forgiveness, at the time
of judgment will God show it
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to everyone?
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Doug: No.
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If you've repented of your sins
and you've asked God to forgive
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you, the Bible tells us that He
takes our sins and He casts them
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into the depths of the sea.
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I'm trying to
remember that verse.
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I used to know it by heart.
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But if they're not repented
of, you can read in Luke 12:3,
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"Wherefore whatever you have
spoken in the dark will be heard
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in the light, and what you've
spoken in the ear in inner rooms
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will be proclaimed
from the housetops."
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So the Lord basically says, you
know, everything's going to be
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made manifest and open to
the eyes of whom we have to do.
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But if our sins are forgiven,
they're under the blood.
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He buries in the depths of
the sea and He doesn't remember
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them anymore.
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He forgives and
forgets our sins, so to speak.
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Jëan: Yeah, Micah
chapter 7, verse 19 is
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the verse you were
referring to there.
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All right. Thank you.
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Next caller that we have is
Gary, and he's got a question
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related to Revelation.
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Gary, welcome to the program.
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Gary: Thank you.
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In Revelation 8:7 it says
the world went by fire and hail.
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So we're seeing a lot of
weather events that--have that
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come true?
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Are we in the--in tribulation or
are we just in perilous times?
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Doug: Yeah.
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Well, I certainly do believe,
Gary, that we are seeing
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an acceleration
of natural disasters.
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I've actually got a chart where
insurance companies--of course,
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they make their money
and--insuring against disasters.
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There--they show that all
different kinds of disasters
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seem to be on the increase.
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Now of course, you know, they're
blaming global warming for that
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and other things.
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But I don't think we're in
the great time of trouble 'cause
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that's when the
seven last plagues fall.
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I think we're in a time that's
leading up to what you call the
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small time of trouble.
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You know, Jesus said there's
going to be wars, rumors of
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wars, earthquakes in different
places, but the end isn't yet.
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And so these things
accelerate like labor pains get
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closer together.
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Before a woman has a
baby, you see greater frequency,
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greater intensity.
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That's where we're at now.
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Jëan: You know, Luke chapter 21,
verse 25, Jesus talking about
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end-time events he says there'll
be signs in the sun and the moon
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and the stars and on the
earth distress of nations
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with perplexity.
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And then it adds this:
the sea and the waves roaring.
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Kind of gives the idea of an
increase of storms or increase
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of, you know, weather issues.
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And, yeah, as we get close
to the end, it seems that we see
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more of that.
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All right.
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Thank you, Gary.
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We've got Karen in Nebraska,
and she's got a question
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about Melchizedek.
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Karen, welcome to the program.
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Karen: Hi. Thank you.
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I'm studying Hebrews
and I'm having a hard time
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with chapter 7.
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Okay, I understand it's about
the priesthood and it's talking
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about the order of Melchizedek
and the order of Aaron and the
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law and the covenant, but I
thought we didn't know--even
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know who Melchizedek is.
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How does that fit
in here in chapter 7?
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Doug: I think--Paul,
we believe, wrote Hebrews.
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Paul is showing that
he--Melchizedek, who appears in
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the Old Testament, is
an allegory of Christ.
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You know, most of the priests
came from the tribe of Aaron,
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but Paul is saying there were
some priests of God that didn't
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come from Israel at
all such as Melchizedek.
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When you look in the Old
Testament, it says four or five
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interesting
things about Melchizedek.
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First of all, it
doesn't say where he came from.
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We know he was the king of
Salem that later became known as
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Jerusalem which means city of
peace, and Jesus is our king of
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peace of the New Jerusalem.
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It says he--the word Melchizedek
means king of righteousness.
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Jesus is our
king of righteousness.
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He brought Abraham bread
and wine, and Jesus made the
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covenant with the bread and
the wine with the disciples.
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And so there's a lot of
analogies of Melchizedek, who is
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a king and a priest.
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Jesus is our high
priest and our king.
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So Paul is showing that he was
a type of Christ who is without
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beginning or end.
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There--we don't know
what happened to Melchizedek.
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He appears and
disappears in the Bible.
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We don't know his genealogy.
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So that's why Paul
is saying all that.
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Jëan: He's also laying
the foundation that Christ's
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priesthood, his heavenly
ministry is superior to that of
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the Levitical priesthood because
obviously Jesus didn't come
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through the tribe of Levi.
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He came through
the tribe of Judah.
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So someone said, "Well, how can
he be a priest if he's not part
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of the tribe of Levi?"
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Paul is making the argument
in Hebrews saying, well, he's
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actually part or a
symbol--Melchizedek is a symbol
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or a type of Christ priesthood,
which is even greater than that
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of the Levitical priesthood
because Abraham gave a tithe
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to Melchizedek.
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So that's his argument.
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He's kind of portraying this
high-priestly ministry of Jesus
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far superior to
that of the Hebrew or the
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Levitical priesthood.
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Doug: You got a
good series on Hebrews.
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I should have
let you answer that.
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Jëan: No, no, it's a
good--you gave a good answer.
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That's a great
study. It really is.
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All right. Thank you, Karen.
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We got Glenn listening in Ohio,
question about Acts chapter 2.
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Glenn, welcome to the program.
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Glenn: Good evening.
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Thank you very
much for taking my call.
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Doug: Yeah.
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Glenn: Now, historically
Christianity is not a religion
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that was practiced till about
4 centuries after the apostles.
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If that's the case, what
doctrine did the apostles adhere
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to in Acts 2:42?
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Then if the statement about the
history of Christianity is not
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true, when did Christianity come
on the scene and where did the
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name come from?
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Doug: Well, it tells us they
first called them Christians.
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It's right in the Bible.
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It--in the book of Acts,
it says they first called them
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Christians in Antioch.
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So that's back in
the days of the apostles.
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So I'm not sure where you
heard that the religion of
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Christianity did not begin
until 4 centuries after Christ.
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The organized Catholic Church
may not have begun until that
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point, but Christianity
began in the Old Testament.
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Jëan: And that verse you're
talking about, Pastor Doug, Acts
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chapter 11, verse 26 where
it says, as you mentioned, in
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Antioch the believers
were called Christians.
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So that's kind of
the origin of the name.
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And of course the early church
for the first 100 years, they
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were taught by the apostles who
were taught by Christ directly.
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So the church was growing.
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It was evangelistic.
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They were faithful to the Word,
and they--yeah, it wasn't until
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the legalization of Christianity
in 313 and the rise of the
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papal power or Catholic
Church that we begin to see some
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compromise taking place where
the church began to wander away
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from the simple
truths of the Bible.
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Doug: Church was organized.
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Even in Acts chapter 6, they're
appointing deacons and then
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they're having--Paul
is appointing elders.
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Jëan: And they had a
council in Jerusalem.
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Doug: Yeah.
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So they were--they didn't maybe
have a big Vatican, but they
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certainly were an organized
religion at that point.
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Thank you.
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Good question, Glenn.
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Jëan: We've got Nicole listening
in Michigan, and she's asking
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about the Day of Atonement.
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Nicole, welcome to the program.
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Nicole: Hi, good
evening. How are you?
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Doug: Good. How are you?
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Nicole: Good.
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My question is, when Babylon
came and destroyed Jerusalem--I
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mean, the sanctuary, the
ark was taken and hidden.
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So when Nehemiah and Ezra went
back to rebuild the city and
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they started to perform the
various ceremonies, mainly the
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Day of Atonement, how are they
keeping the Day of Atonement if
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the Ark of the Covenant
was not in the most holy place?
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Doug: Good question.
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And, you know, there's all--all
I have on that is speculation
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and I've never read anything
definitive, but you're right.
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The real ark, the original ark
that was made during the time of
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Moses, captured once by the
Philistines, recovered--then
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when Nebuchadnezzar came and
besieged the city, it was hidden
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somewhere and it's
probably still hidden there.
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No, Solomon did not give it
to the Queen of Sheba as our
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Ethiopian friends say 'cause it
appears again later during the
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time of King Josiah.
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But as near as we can tell, when
they rebuilt the temple they put
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some facsimile of the ark in
there so that the priest could
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put blood on it
during the Day of Atonement.
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But they were hoping that God
would restore to them the place
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of the original ark.
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So I don't think they
ever made a copy of it.
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At least I don't
see any record of that.
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But they had--they put, I think,
some kind of facsimile of it
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with a golden horn so
they could put the blood on it.
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Jëan: Right, of course, what
made the Ark of the Covenant so
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special was the law written by
the finger of God on the tables
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of stone inside the ark.
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That could never be reproduced.
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So they had, like you say, maybe
a box of some kind or something
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to kind of represent where
it stood in the most holy place.
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Okay, thanks,
Nicole. Good question.
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We got Dana listening in New
York, and she's calling about
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what does the Bible
say about praise dancing.
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Dana, welcome to the program.
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Dana: Yes, hi.
How are you all doing?
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Doug: Doing
very well. Thank you.
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Dana: All right.
God bless you both.
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So my question is, what do
you think about modern praise
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dancing where some churches
may have an individual or group,
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mostly females dressed in a long
dress of some sort, and then
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they perform different bodily
movements to a gospel song?
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What do you think about
that form of worship, and is
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it biblical?
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Doug: Well, you're
asking, is it biblical?
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There's only three or
four examples of dancing.
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Now, the word dance is mentioned
more than three or four times,
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but you've got, of course, where
David danced before the ark.
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That was not in the
temple or on the Sabbath day.
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He's bringing the ark
up to the house of God.
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Then you have when the women
came out following a victory.
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Like when David and Saul beat
the Philistines the women came
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out and sang songs, and that was
customary that they'd go out and
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greet and celebrate a victory.
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When Miriam led the women after
crossing the Red Sea, because of
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the victory over the
Egyptians they would sing.
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The women only
danced with women.
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This is not
happening in the sanctuary.
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The ones who led out in praise
and music in the sanctuary were
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typically the Levites and
the sons of Asaph, which were,
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I think, Levites
if I'm not mistaken.
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They were the musicians.
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I was reading about that
this week in 1 Chronicles,
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I think, 25.
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But I don't see any example
of women dancing or recreating
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songs in the
temple on the Sabbath.
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Jëan: And the type of dancing,
as you mentioned, Pastor Doug,
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is very different even from what
we see today in some churches.
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Even today if you go to Israel
and you go to the Wailing Wall
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even on Friday evening or on the
Sabbath, you'll have two groups.
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You have the
men on the one side.
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You have the
women on the other side.
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And they usually form a circle
and they'll sing and they'll
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move around in a circle.
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That's a little different
than having four or five people
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standing on the stage, you know,
waving a banner or moving around
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to music with a
scarf or something.
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It's total--it was a totally
different type of celebration.
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Doug: Yeah. Yeah.
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The focus in Israel at
the Wailing Wall--of course,
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that's not even in the temple.
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That's in the wall outside.
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The focus there was really just
to welcome the Sabbath, and they
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usually were singing
a--some kind of a biblical song.
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It was a--usually repeating
some biblical promise or song.
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Yeah, yeah. I've
seen this before.
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I know just what you're talking
about, and it kind of it--I just
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couldn't picture that happening
in the synagogue of Jesus.
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Anyway, thanks.
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I appreciate your question.
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Jëan: All right, next caller
that we have is Junith listening
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in Nevada, and
she's asking about Hagar.
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Junith, welcome to the program.
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Junith: Hi. Hello.
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Hello, and good
evening to both of you.
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Thanks for taking my call.
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My question is, what could have
happened that Hagar and Abraham
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did not have Ishmael?
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Doug: Okay, well, if Ishmael was
not in the picture, of course--
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well, of course, if Sarah
did not encourage Abraham to use
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Hagar as a surrogate, I guess
it was more than a surrogate, a
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concubine, well then Isaac would
have been born and a lot of the
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problems that are in the world
today between the descendants of
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Ishmael and the descendants
of Isaac would probably not
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be happening.
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If you're asking what if Hagar
did not have a child, well then
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again it would
probably be a non-event.
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Eventually, Sarah would have.
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So whenever you say what if you
start to speculate, and you can
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go wild trying to speculate
how God would have orchestrated
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things because
you really don't know.
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People say, "What would have
happened if Eve ate the fruit
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and Adam didn't?"
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Have you ever heard that one?
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So I don't even try to
answer that 'cause you'll lose
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every time.
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Jëan: All right.
Well, thank you, Junith.
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We've got Julie in South Dakota.
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She's got a question
about the close of probation.
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Julie, welcome to the program.
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Julie: Well, thank you.
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I appreciate you taking my call.
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I was wondering if there's a
correlation between the closing
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of probation with God shutting
the door to Noah's ark seven
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days prior to the rain.
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'Cause I was thinking maybe
like seven years prior to Jesus
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returning that God would,
you know, close the door to
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salvation and we can
no longer be saved during
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those seven years.
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Doug: Well, is
there a correlation?
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There is in the sense that
life went on outside the ark for
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a period of time even
after their destiny was sealed.
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I don't think the seven
days of Noah re--'cause it's not
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a prophecy--are
representing seven years.
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For one thing, can you imagine
what the world would look like
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after one year of the oceans and
fresh water being blood and men
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being scorched with great
heat and people suffering with
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a noisome sore?
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I think the time for the seven
plagues is going to be more like
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the time of the ten
plagues that fell on Egypt.
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When you track that, it probably
happened within a period of
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about a month, a
month and a half.
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It came in quick order.
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Like the plagues that fell
on Job, it seemed like they came
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rather quickly, lasted a few
weeks, and--so I don't see the
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seven last plagues
when probation closes.
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There's really no purpose in God
allowing the world to suffer for
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7 years with the righteous
still here surrounded with
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that misery.
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There's no--they can't be lost.
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There's no benefit.
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No one's being converted.
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Jëan: Yeah, we do have a
verse on that also: Revelation
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chapter 18, verse 8.
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Easy verse to remember.
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It's talking about the plagues.
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So then we know the plagues
come after probation closes.
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It says, "Therefore her
plagues," speaking of Babylon,
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"will come in one day--death
and mourning and famine.
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And she shall be
utterly burned with fire."
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So the Bible seems to indicate
that; yes, once probation closes
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and the plagues begin to fall,
once the plagues start falling,
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it's about the period of a year.
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And if you look at the makeup of
the plagues, like you say, the
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earth probably can't keep going
much longer if all of this--you
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know, the plagues are falling
and, like you say, the sea is
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turning to blood, the
fresh water is turning to blood.
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There's famine,
the--intense heat, fires.
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So--all right.
Hopefully that helps.
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Doug: Thank you.
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Jëan: Next caller that we
have is Wade in Minnesota.
00:21:07.10\00:21:09.80
Wade, welcome to the program.
00:21:09.83\00:21:11.13
You have a question
about 2 Thessalonians.
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Wade: Yeah. Thank you.
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Yeah, I'm trying to figure out
who the he is in 2 Thessalonians
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2:7 and when that
verse will be fulfilled.
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Doug: Yeah, let's read this for
our friends that are listening.
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Speaking of, we believe, the
Antichrist power, it says, "For
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the mystery of
lawlessness is already at work.
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He who now restrains will
do so until he is taken out of
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the way."
00:21:39.13\00:21:40.43
So the he is capital H, the
Holy Spirit is going to restrain
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the work of the
devil, the lawless one.
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So you're wondering about the he
there who does the restraining.
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I believe that's the Spirit.
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Is that your understanding?
00:21:54.48\00:21:55.81
Wade: Yes. Doug: Yeah.
00:21:55.84\00:21:57.25
Jëan: Yeah.
00:21:57.28\00:21:58.58
Doug: Yeah, so the
Holy Spirit is restraining.
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And you can read in the days of
Noah, when wickedness increased
00:22:00.32\00:22:05.39
in the earth God's
Spirit was restraining.
00:22:05.42\00:22:07.99
It says, "My Spirit will
not always strive with men."
00:22:08.02\00:22:11.93
There'll come a day when
once again the Spirit will be
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withdrawn and no longer strive
with people and then kind of
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demons have free reign at that
point, and it's going to get
00:22:18.27\00:22:21.74
pretty hairy scary on
the world at that time.
00:22:21.77\00:22:26.78
Jëan: All
right. Doug: Thank you.
00:22:26.81\00:22:28.14
Jëan: Next caller that we
have is Ryan in New Mexico.
00:22:28.18\00:22:30.81
Ryan, welcome to the program.
00:22:30.85\00:22:32.75
Ryan: Hello. How
are y'all doing today?
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Doug: Doing good.
Thank you for calling.
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Ryan: My question is, isn't
the 7-day cycle have Babylonian
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roots that started
from--it would be sun worship.
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Doug: All right.
Well, let's talk about that.
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It is true the Babylonians
also recognize a 7-day week.
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Most of the world--well,
everyone in the world recognizes
00:22:49.60\00:22:52.50
a 7-day week now.
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The Babylonians, they worshiped
the sun on the first day of the
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week, and then Egypt also
the sun was the principal god
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of worship.
00:23:03.75\00:23:05.05
With the Greeks and the
Romans, it was Apollo, Jupiter.
00:23:05.08\00:23:08.92
So--and that's where
you get the word Sunday.
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So in that sense, the Sunday
part of the Babylonian worship
00:23:12.09\00:23:16.49
trickled down
through other empires.
00:23:16.52\00:23:19.16
And when we were talking about
Babylon earlier, not only was
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there a war between Israel and
Babylon but you go back to the
00:23:21.73\00:23:24.80
Tower of Babel and, you
know, it--you can see two camps
00:23:24.83\00:23:29.50
actually split way back then.
00:23:29.54\00:23:31.51
But the weekly cycle begins
in Genesis where God creates the
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world in six days and then He
creates another day as a day of
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rest that we call the
seventh day and the Sabbath.
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That didn't come from the
Babylonians, that--the Bible
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tells us that goes all
the way back to the beginning.
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Jëan: And it's not just
the sun god that was worshiped,
00:23:48.32\00:23:51.13
you know, for one
day during the week.
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Of course, you have Monday,
which is connected with the
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moon god.
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And so, you know, all of these
pagan traditions and cultures,
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they would look to the heavens
and they'd see these different
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planets and they would name them
a god and they would worship
00:24:02.47\00:24:04.74
them on a specific day.
00:24:04.77\00:24:06.14
But what's amazing is that they
also followed a 7-day week, a
00:24:06.17\00:24:10.31
7-day cycle and there's nothing
in the natural realm--you know,
00:24:10.35\00:24:13.78
it's not because the earth is
spinning on its, you know, axis
00:24:13.82\00:24:16.79
or it's going
around the sun or the moon.
00:24:16.82\00:24:18.62
All of--you know, you talk about
years and you've got months
00:24:18.65\00:24:21.86
and you've got days.
00:24:21.89\00:24:23.63
We all--we can see something in
nature, but when it comes to the
00:24:23.66\00:24:25.83
7-day week the only evidence for
that or the only reason for that
00:24:25.86\00:24:29.26
is back in Genesis chapter 1.
00:24:29.30\00:24:31.77
Doug: Yeah. Absolutely.
00:24:31.80\00:24:33.84
Well, thank
you. Appreciate that.
00:24:33.87\00:24:35.50
Maybe we have time for
another call before our break.
00:24:35.54\00:24:37.91
Jëan: All right.
00:24:37.94\00:24:39.24
We've got James
listening in Texas.
00:24:39.27\00:24:41.01
James, welcome to the program.
00:24:41.04\00:24:43.61
James: Yes, sir. Hi.
00:24:43.65\00:24:44.95
Thank you for
taking my call tonight.
00:24:44.98\00:24:47.65
My question is,
does God have a sin?
00:24:47.68\00:24:50.99
Like in--I've heard in Exodus
chapter 20, verses 3 through 5
00:24:51.02\00:24:55.12
where it does say--or even
God com--says Himself that He is
00:24:55.16\00:25:00.23
a jealous God.
00:25:00.26\00:25:02.10
But ain't jealousy a sin?
00:25:02.13\00:25:04.73
Doug: Good. Good question.
00:25:04.77\00:25:06.07
Yeah. God says,
"I'm a jealous God."
00:25:06.10\00:25:10.14
And this is an
emotion that is appropriate.
00:25:10.17\00:25:12.51
If a man is married, he
loves his wife and he feels no
00:25:12.54\00:25:16.81
protection or possessiveness if
someone is infringing on their
00:25:16.85\00:25:20.38
relationship, that is unnatural.
00:25:20.42\00:25:22.38
When God says He's a jealous
God, it means He loves us and
00:25:22.42\00:25:25.22
He's not willing to share
that love with another god
00:25:25.25\00:25:27.92
or an idol.
00:25:27.96\00:25:29.29
That is normal. That is healthy.
00:25:29.32\00:25:31.36
And so some people are obsessed
with inappropriate jealousy.
00:25:31.39\00:25:35.50
They're just not trusting their
spouse when there's no reason
00:25:35.53\00:25:38.23
for distrust.
00:25:38.27\00:25:39.57
That's inappropriate.
00:25:39.60\00:25:40.94
So we think about a person
who's, you know, jealous that
00:25:40.97\00:25:42.60
someone else is prospering.
00:25:42.64\00:25:44.11
That's inappropriate.
00:25:44.14\00:25:45.51
But biblical jealousy
that you would have in a love
00:25:45.54\00:25:49.18
relationship is
normal and acceptable.
00:25:49.21\00:25:51.78
This is what God
is talking about.
00:25:51.81\00:25:53.11
Jëan: Okay. Very good.
00:25:53.15\00:25:54.48
Well, I'm looking at
the clock, Pastor Doug.
00:25:54.52\00:25:56.15
We've got 20 seconds before
we're going to take a break.
00:25:56.18\00:25:57.85
Of course, the
program's not over.
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We just halfway through.
00:26:00.29\00:26:01.86
Doug: The best is yet to come.
00:26:01.89\00:26:03.19
Jëan: That's
right. So when--stand by.
00:26:03.22\00:26:05.89
We'll be--call
your friends. Tell them.
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My name is Doug Batchelor.
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Jëan: My name is Jëan Ross,
and we've got Jay in Canada that
00:30:34.76\00:30:37.50
he's standing by with a question
about 1 Timothy chapter 2.
00:30:37.53\00:30:41.44
Jay, welcome to the program.
00:30:41.47\00:30:43.24
Jay: Yeah.
00:30:43.27\00:30:44.57
So my question is for that verse
that says, "I do not permit a
00:30:44.61\00:30:48.68
woman to teach or to have
authority for--over a man.
00:30:48.71\00:30:52.58
She must remain silent."
00:30:52.61\00:30:53.98
My question is, is that just
for the culture of the day or is
00:30:54.02\00:30:59.09
that still applied today
maybe only in the church or just
00:30:59.12\00:31:02.82
applied today in general?
00:31:02.86\00:31:05.03
Doug: No.
00:31:05.06\00:31:06.29
I think that generally speaking
in spiritual matters Paul's not
00:31:06.33\00:31:08.83
saying that, you know, in
a marriage there are areas in
00:31:08.86\00:31:12.47
domestic life where
women are in charge.
00:31:12.50\00:31:14.87
You know, Karen and I have
a good working relationship.
00:31:14.90\00:31:18.87
There are certain things that
she does and certain things that
00:31:18.91\00:31:21.21
I do, and she is the
chief of certain areas.
00:31:21.24\00:31:25.31
But when it comes to being the
priest of the family, spiritual
00:31:25.35\00:31:28.48
leader--and the
church is an extension.
00:31:28.52\00:31:30.49
Church is a
combination of families.
00:31:30.52\00:31:32.92
Men are to be--are supposed
to be the spiritual leaders in
00:31:32.95\00:31:36.69
their households.
00:31:36.73\00:31:38.03
Now, in the case where a woman
becomes a believer and she's
00:31:38.06\00:31:40.10
married to an unbeliever, she
will need to take the lead on
00:31:40.13\00:31:43.23
teaching the children the Word.
00:31:43.26\00:31:45.30
But in a regular Christian
family the man should be taking
00:31:45.33\00:31:50.74
the lead, and you only
see men offering sacrifice and
00:31:50.77\00:31:55.81
fulfilling the
priestly functions in the Bible.
00:31:55.84\00:31:58.18
So there is a
distinction in roles.
00:31:58.21\00:32:00.85
But does that mean a woman
can never speak in the church?
00:32:00.88\00:32:03.92
No.
00:32:03.95\00:32:05.29
Because we have examples in
the Bible where women did speak.
00:32:05.32\00:32:07.72
But it's talking
about having--teaching of
00:32:07.76\00:32:09.39
the authority.
00:32:09.42\00:32:10.73
The final authority
was to rest with the men.
00:32:10.76\00:32:12.33
Jëan: Also, if you read on a
little further in the chapter,
00:32:12.36\00:32:14.30
Paul talks about having
all things done decently and
00:32:14.36\00:32:16.87
in order.
00:32:16.90\00:32:18.23
It appears that there were
some issues that were being
00:32:18.27\00:32:20.04
addressed, especially in the
church of Corinth where there
00:32:20.07\00:32:22.64
was a little bit of chaos from
time to time, it seems, in the
00:32:22.67\00:32:25.21
church where people were talking
over other people and there was
00:32:25.24\00:32:27.98
too much noise and perhaps the
woman in the group in the church
00:32:28.01\00:32:32.11
were calling down to
their men who was sitting in
00:32:32.15\00:32:34.08
a different area.
00:32:34.12\00:32:35.48
And Paul is saying,
"No, let's keep reverend.
00:32:35.52\00:32:38.39
Let's do everything
decent and in order.
00:32:38.42\00:32:40.32
And, you know, this is not
the time to talk back and forth
00:32:40.36\00:32:43.73
during the service."
00:32:43.76\00:32:45.06
Doug: I know it
probably surprises people.
00:32:45.09\00:32:46.43
You and I have traveled a lot.
00:32:46.46\00:32:47.76
We've been in churches where--in
the Middle East and India the
00:32:47.83\00:32:51.37
men and women do not
sit together, and the object
00:32:51.40\00:32:55.00
the--they're figuring, you know,
keep your mind pure, so they
00:32:55.04\00:32:58.14
separate them.
00:32:58.17\00:32:59.51
And women in Corinth were maybe
calling across the aisle, so to
00:32:59.54\00:33:02.84
speak, or up to the balcony
and--asking their husbands
00:33:02.88\00:33:06.95
questions, kind of
embarrassing their husbands.
00:33:06.98\00:33:09.02
And Paul said, "Talk at home.
00:33:09.05\00:33:10.85
Don't do that here."
00:33:10.89\00:33:12.85
Jëan: In other words, they were
calling down to their husband.
00:33:12.89\00:33:14.66
"Did you hear that?
00:33:14.69\00:33:16.02
Are you listening?
00:33:16.06\00:33:17.36
Pay attention."
00:33:17.39\00:33:18.73
All right, next caller that
we have is Amanda in Nebraska.
00:33:18.76\00:33:21.63
Amanda, welcome to the program.
00:33:21.66\00:33:23.73
Amanda: Hello.
00:33:23.77\00:33:25.07
Doug: Hi. Thanks for calling.
00:33:25.10\00:33:27.10
Amanda: Yeah, I just had a
question on Leviticus 19:23
00:33:27.14\00:33:28.80
through 25.
00:33:28.84\00:33:30.14
Do you have any idea what
that significance could be?
00:33:30.17\00:33:31.94
Doug: Yeah, let me
read that for our friends.
00:33:31.97\00:33:33.31
"When you come into the land
and you've planted all kinds of
00:33:33.34\00:33:35.98
trees for food, then
you shall count their fruit
00:33:36.01\00:33:38.11
as uncircumcised.
00:33:38.15\00:33:39.45
Three years it shall
be uncircumcised to you.
00:33:39.48\00:33:41.18
It shall not be eaten.
00:33:41.22\00:33:42.55
But in the fourth year
all the fruit shall be holy,
00:33:42.58\00:33:44.99
a praise to the Lord.
00:33:45.02\00:33:46.35
In the fifth year you may eat
its fruit and it may yield to
00:33:46.39\00:33:48.92
you its increase.
00:33:48.96\00:33:50.26
I am the Lord Your God."
00:33:50.29\00:33:51.59
That in particular or are
you talking about the--I think
00:33:51.63\00:33:54.36
that's the main one
you're talking about.
00:33:54.36\00:33:55.70
Is that right, Amanda?
00:33:55.73\00:33:57.53
Amanda: Yeah.
00:33:57.57\00:33:58.87
Doug: Yeah, the--I know that
so--yeah, I know that may seem a
00:33:58.90\00:34:02.74
little odd, but they're actually
trees that start bearing fruit.
00:34:02.77\00:34:08.51
They--just like a lot of
creatures, they have a maturity
00:34:08.54\00:34:12.85
where the fruit will be, I
think, the best after a few
00:34:12.88\00:34:16.22
years of bearing.
00:34:16.25\00:34:18.52
If you strip a tree too
much when it's young, it also
00:34:18.55\00:34:21.76
can't--might not survive.
00:34:21.79\00:34:23.59
It's almost like it needs
to grow a little bit and then
00:34:23.63\00:34:29.06
you're going to
have the best fruit.
00:34:29.10\00:34:30.80
There may be a
spiritual analogy to that.
00:34:30.83\00:34:33.40
Often, the first fruits belonged
to the Lord when it came to
00:34:33.44\00:34:35.97
animals giving birth.
00:34:36.00\00:34:37.51
And so this may have been
something where they said, you
00:34:37.54\00:34:40.68
know, "Take the fruit.
00:34:40.71\00:34:42.04
Give it to the creatures."
00:34:42.08\00:34:43.38
But it belongs to the
Lord for--the first few years.
00:34:43.41\00:34:45.41
Jëan: And then actually the
promise is that it'll produce
00:34:45.45\00:34:47.32
even more fruit.
00:34:47.35\00:34:48.65
And we know that if the plant
has a chance to kind of--you
00:34:48.68\00:34:50.85
know, those first
few years it's important.
00:34:50.89\00:34:53.02
So there's practical reasons,
but also it's a recognition that
00:34:53.05\00:34:55.42
everything comes from God.
00:34:55.46\00:34:56.79
He provides food for us.
00:34:56.83\00:34:58.13
He sustains us.
00:34:58.16\00:34:59.49
So it's dual
application, I think.
00:34:59.53\00:35:00.90
Dual meaning there.
00:35:00.93\00:35:02.23
Thank you, Amanda.
00:35:02.26\00:35:03.57
We've got Ellen listening in
North Carolina, and she's got
00:35:03.60\00:35:05.37
a question about
the second commandment.
00:35:05.40\00:35:07.04
Ellen, welcome to the program.
00:35:07.07\00:35:09.57
Ellen: Oh, hi.
00:35:09.60\00:35:10.94
Thank you so much,
pastors, for taking my call.
00:35:10.97\00:35:12.64
I just have to thank you.
00:35:12.67\00:35:14.01
We--my family has learned
so much from this program.
00:35:14.04\00:35:16.11
Thank you for this ministry.
00:35:16.14\00:35:17.65
The second commandment, pretty
basic and I'm having trouble.
00:35:17.68\00:35:21.72
I know Jesus said,
you know, "Remember me."
00:35:21.75\00:35:23.95
And he was a man.
00:35:23.99\00:35:25.42
So--and also with, you know,
different teachings and even in
00:35:25.45\00:35:30.46
Sunday school for the
children--or Saturday school for
00:35:30.49\00:35:32.99
the children with kids stories
and pictures of Jesus, movies of
00:35:33.03\00:35:37.00
Jesus, the Ten Commandments.
00:35:37.03\00:35:38.47
Could you speak about that
please in terms of what it says
00:35:38.50\00:35:41.14
in Deuteronomy and
the second commandment?
00:35:41.17\00:35:43.67
Doug: Yes, it's in both
Deuteronomy and in Exodus where
00:35:43.71\00:35:46.17
you find the Ten Commandments.
00:35:46.21\00:35:47.51
Let me just read
it for our friends.
00:35:47.54\00:35:49.14
"You'll not make for yourself
a carved image--any likeness of
00:35:49.18\00:35:52.15
anything in the heaven above,
or that is in the earth beneath,
00:35:52.18\00:35:55.15
or that is in the
water under the earth.
00:35:55.18\00:35:56.89
You shall not bow down
yourself to them nor serve them.
00:35:56.92\00:36:00.19
For I, the Lord Your God,
am a jealous God, visiting the
00:36:00.22\00:36:02.99
iniquity of the fathers on
the children unto the third and
00:36:03.02\00:36:05.49
fourth generations of those that
hate Me, but showing mercy and
00:36:05.53\00:36:08.90
to thousands of those who love
Me and keep My commandments."
00:36:08.93\00:36:12.57
God did not want us
making images of anything and
00:36:12.60\00:36:17.71
worshiping it.
00:36:17.74\00:36:19.21
This is not a complete or a
comprehensive prohibition about
00:36:19.24\00:36:23.11
making any kind of a
likeness of anything by itself.
00:36:23.14\00:36:27.12
It said do not make a
likeness and bow down to it.
00:36:27.15\00:36:31.29
Proof for that would be a little
later you see in the Bible where
00:36:31.32\00:36:35.46
God instructs Moses to make
a bronze serpent of all things.
00:36:35.49\00:36:39.06
Jesus even refers to that.
00:36:39.09\00:36:40.96
They looked at it
and they would live.
00:36:40.96\00:36:43.26
They were healed from the venom.
00:36:43.30\00:36:45.00
When Solomon built the temple,
he put this great big bronze
00:36:45.03\00:36:48.60
bathtub that held the
water for the priest to wash.
00:36:48.64\00:36:52.11
It wasn't for
their--them to climb in.
00:36:52.14\00:36:55.31
It was on 12 oxen.
00:36:55.34\00:36:57.25
Now, they weren't to pray to the
oxen, and they all knew that.
00:36:57.28\00:36:59.51
It was just ornamental.
00:36:59.55\00:37:01.38
In the sanctuary, God told them
that they were to engrave angels
00:37:01.42\00:37:05.12
on the walls of the
holy place and in the veil.
00:37:05.15\00:37:08.22
So God wouldn't
say, "Don't do this.
00:37:08.26\00:37:11.89
Don't make any kind of a
likeness of anything or you'll
00:37:11.93\00:37:15.23
be killed."
00:37:15.26\00:37:16.67
And then say, "Now don't forget
to make images of cherubim on
00:37:16.70\00:37:20.24
top of the ark."
00:37:20.27\00:37:21.60
There are two
angels on top of the ark.
00:37:21.64\00:37:23.47
The key is we
shouldn't pray to these things.
00:37:23.51\00:37:25.81
Now, there is a risk.
00:37:25.84\00:37:27.68
You know, I think whenever we
start making representations or
00:37:27.71\00:37:31.28
facsimiles or paintings or
statues of Jesus some people
00:37:31.31\00:37:35.28
are, you know, like inclined
to pray to those things.
00:37:35.32\00:37:39.19
They think there's
some kind of a sacred relic.
00:37:39.22\00:37:41.92
During the time of Hezekiah
when the people started burning
00:37:41.96\00:37:44.69
incense to the bronze serpent
that somehow had survived all
00:37:44.73\00:37:47.46
those years, he said that's just
a piece of brass and he crushed
00:37:47.50\00:37:51.20
it and threw it away just like
Moses crushed the golden calf
00:37:51.23\00:37:55.10
and said, "Drink the water.
00:37:55.14\00:37:56.44
Don't worship these things."
00:37:56.47\00:37:58.71
So I don't know if that helps
a little bit; but yeah, it's not
00:37:58.74\00:38:05.18
a sin to make a
representation of something.
00:38:05.21\00:38:08.48
We need to be careful if people
are--I know I'm kind of hemming
00:38:08.52\00:38:16.29
and hawing here because I sure
don't want to lead anyone wrong.
00:38:16.32\00:38:18.99
I was with Karen in Russia.
00:38:19.03\00:38:21.50
It's interesting.
00:38:21.53\00:38:22.83
The Catholic Church prays
to statues, but in the Orthodox
00:38:22.86\00:38:24.93
Church they pray to paintings.
00:38:24.97\00:38:27.30
And we brought as gifts to
Russia paintings from the book
00:38:27.34\00:38:31.94
of Revelation 'cause we
were doing a Revelation seminar.
00:38:31.97\00:38:34.91
When the pastors saw that,
they kind of rolled their eyes
00:38:34.94\00:38:37.55
thinking, "What's happened
to the American church?"
00:38:37.58\00:38:40.18
Because they tell their
people--he said, "These folks
00:38:40.22\00:38:42.62
are going to pin that up on the
wall and put a candle in front
00:38:42.65\00:38:45.12
of it and they're going to pray
to this picture that you've got
00:38:45.15\00:38:48.49
from the book of Revelation."
00:38:48.52\00:38:49.86
And I thought, "Oh, man,
I don't want to do anything
00:38:49.89\00:38:51.33
to make anyone stumble."
00:38:51.36\00:38:52.66
So you got to keep
that in mind as well.
00:38:52.69\00:38:54.83
You know, a lot of good
Christian people might have
00:38:54.83\00:38:56.80
a picture of Jesus at the
Last Supper on the wall and they
00:38:56.83\00:38:59.40
don't pray to it, and it--it's
not any kind of a relic, it's
00:38:59.43\00:39:03.37
a piece of art.
00:39:03.41\00:39:04.71
So there's a balance there.
00:39:04.74\00:39:06.14
But if you have any
doubts, do the safe thing.
00:39:06.17\00:39:08.88
Jëan: Okay, thank you very much.
00:39:08.91\00:39:10.35
Next caller that we have is
Paul in Australia, and he has
00:39:10.38\00:39:13.72
a question about
John chapter 8, verse 56.
00:39:13.75\00:39:15.85
Paul, welcome to the program.
00:39:15.88\00:39:17.32
Thank you.
00:39:17.35\00:39:18.65
Thank you so much
for answering my call.
00:39:18.69\00:39:20.02
My question is John
chapter 8, verse 56.
00:39:20.06\00:39:27.13
Jesus said to the Jews, that
is Abraham, "Your father Abraham
00:39:27.20\00:39:31.77
will see my day and rejoice."
00:39:31.80\00:39:33.97
So which mean that is Abraham
in the heaven or he's not in
00:39:34.00\00:39:38.17
the heaven?
00:39:38.21\00:39:39.51
If in the heaven, why
the Bible is not record it?
00:39:39.54\00:39:41.64
And if it's not in the
heaven, why did Jesus say that?
00:39:41.68\00:39:45.21
Doug: Yeah, when Jesus
said, "Abraham saw my day and he
00:39:45.25\00:39:49.45
rejoiced," your father Abraham
rejoiced to see, that means
00:39:49.48\00:39:52.05
he rejoiced
looking forward to his day.
00:39:52.09\00:39:54.59
When Abraham took his son up
on the mountain and offered his
00:39:54.62\00:39:58.49
only begotten son--he didn't
quite complete the offering
00:39:58.53\00:40:01.70
'cause an angel stopped him.
00:40:01.73\00:40:03.67
God, I think, revealed to
Abraham, "I am going to give
00:40:03.70\00:40:06.77
My Son."
00:40:06.80\00:40:08.34
And Abraham understood that God
so loved the world He would give
00:40:08.37\00:40:12.27
His Son.
00:40:12.31\00:40:13.64
He saw--Abraham then saw
on Mount Moriah the day of
00:40:13.68\00:40:18.31
Christ coming.
00:40:18.35\00:40:19.58
He understood what the mission
of Christ was and he rejoiced.
00:40:19.61\00:40:22.52
It doesn't mean Abraham was
up in heaven looking down and
00:40:22.55\00:40:25.35
rejoicing 'cause Abraham's dead.
00:40:25.39\00:40:28.89
He's sleeping
until the Resurrection.
00:40:28.92\00:40:31.83
So it says Abraham slept.
00:40:31.86\00:40:34.73
Jëan: So one might
say that Abraham saw it in
00:40:34.73\00:40:36.63
vision perhaps.
00:40:36.67\00:40:38.00
God revealed to him
what was yet to come.
00:40:38.03\00:40:41.17
Okay, very
good. Well, thank you.
00:40:41.20\00:40:42.50
Thanks, Paul.
Hopefully that helps.
00:40:42.54\00:40:43.87
We got Joseph in Florida,
and Joseph is asking a question
00:40:43.91\00:40:47.91
about Matthew chapter 18.
00:40:47.94\00:40:49.74
Joseph, welcome to the program.
00:40:49.78\00:40:52.18
Joseph: Hi. Thank
you for taking my call.
00:40:52.21\00:40:54.88
The question I had was
when Peter had asked Jesus, "How
00:40:54.92\00:40:58.89
many times should I
forgive my brother?"
00:40:58.92\00:41:02.46
and he said up to seven times
thinking that that was, you
00:41:02.49\00:41:05.83
know, the limit or the
ultimate, and Jesus referred no,
00:41:05.86\00:41:11.77
7 times 70.
00:41:11.80\00:41:13.37
That--was he reflecting to the
70-week prophecy, the 490-day
00:41:13.40\00:41:18.11
year prophecy of Daniel 9:24
that God had allotted to the
00:41:18.14\00:41:22.58
Jewish nation to repent?
00:41:22.61\00:41:25.35
Doug: You know, that's very
perceptive because Daniel in
00:41:25.38\00:41:28.35
chapter 9 is praying, and
God had been so merciful with
00:41:28.38\00:41:31.45
the nation.
00:41:31.49\00:41:32.79
He's wondering, "How long,
you know, will You bear with
00:41:32.82\00:41:35.82
Your people?"
00:41:35.86\00:41:37.19
Because he--God answers and
says 70 weeks are cut off for
00:41:37.23\00:41:40.93
the nation.
00:41:40.96\00:41:42.26
There would be 70 times
7, 490 years of mercy now.
00:41:42.30\00:41:48.27
And you find seven is often
associated with forgiveness.
00:41:48.30\00:41:51.77
It says God cast seven
devils out of Mary Magdalene.
00:41:51.81\00:41:55.28
A righteous man falls
seven times and rises again.
00:41:55.31\00:41:59.28
Job says, "He will
deliver me in six times.
00:41:59.31\00:42:02.15
Yes, seven. No
evil will befall me."
00:42:02.18\00:42:04.52
So the number seven is
often associated with perfect
00:42:04.55\00:42:07.39
forgiveness, which is probably
why Peter said seven times.
00:42:07.42\00:42:11.36
But Jesus said,
"No, 70 times 7."
00:42:11.39\00:42:14.00
Now, God is not in heaven with a
ledger that is counting how many
00:42:14.00\00:42:17.90
times you sin because all of
us listening probably would have
00:42:17.93\00:42:21.10
used up our 490
times a long time ago.
00:42:21.14\00:42:24.17
He's basically saying that
as long as we're willing to
00:42:24.21\00:42:27.51
genuinely
repent He will forgive.
00:42:27.54\00:42:31.38
So, yeah, beautiful thought.
00:42:31.41\00:42:33.62
But I do think there's kind of
an illusion there he's making.
00:42:33.65\00:42:36.38
Jëan: That's right.
00:42:36.42\00:42:37.72
Sort of there is a
probationary time coming.
00:42:37.75\00:42:39.75
Forgiveness does
end at some point.
00:42:39.79\00:42:41.79
All right, thank you.
00:42:41.82\00:42:43.16
We've got Chelsea in Florida.
00:42:43.19\00:42:44.49
Chelsea, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:42:44.53\00:42:48.13
Chelsea: Hi, good
evening. How are you both?
00:42:48.16\00:42:50.50
Doug: Good.
00:42:50.53\00:42:52.87
Chelsea: So my question is, how
do I explain to other Christians
00:42:52.90\00:42:55.57
of different denominational
backgrounds basically the
00:42:55.60\00:42:58.74
importance of studying biblical
doctrines, like the truth about
00:42:58.77\00:43:01.88
hell, the Second Coming?
00:43:01.91\00:43:04.25
And also, if they've never been
exposed to like the three-angels
00:43:04.28\00:43:07.45
message and the truth and
revelation--like, for example,
00:43:07.48\00:43:11.79
I guess we're setting the truth
about hell fire and then like
00:43:11.82\00:43:15.66
maybe if someone says,
"Well, these details don't
00:43:15.69\00:43:18.19
really matter.
00:43:18.23\00:43:19.56
It just matters if we all
believe in Jesus Christ and that
00:43:19.59\00:43:23.03
he's our Savior and that's it.
00:43:23.06\00:43:24.47
We don't have to
really study the details."
00:43:24.50\00:43:27.14
So how do I explain the
importance of these doctrines
00:43:27.17\00:43:30.57
to them?
00:43:30.61\00:43:31.91
Doug: Well,
that's a great question.
00:43:31.94\00:43:33.27
And I was exercising my mind
about that just last week in
00:43:33.31\00:43:37.98
visiting with some friends.
00:43:38.01\00:43:41.32
And yeah, a lot of Christians
will say, "Well, as long as we
00:43:41.35\00:43:45.25
love the Lord--" And it is true
that love for God is premier,
00:43:45.29\00:43:48.86
and there are going to be
Christians from many faiths
00:43:48.89\00:43:51.06
in heaven.
00:43:51.09\00:43:52.39
But understanding doctrine
affects our picture of God.
00:43:52.43\00:43:55.63
For example, the unbiblical
teaching that the wicked burn
00:43:55.66\00:44:01.07
through ceaseless ages for the
sins of one lifetime it distorts
00:44:01.10\00:44:05.71
the picture of God and makes
Him look like He's unjust and He
00:44:05.74\00:44:08.68
enjoys watching
His creatures suffer.
00:44:08.71\00:44:10.91
There is a hell and
there is a punishment.
00:44:10.95\00:44:12.81
People need to understand that.
00:44:12.85\00:44:14.42
But the idea that zillions
of years go by and they've never
00:44:14.45\00:44:17.72
even begun burning is just a
horrific thought when you think
00:44:17.75\00:44:21.72
about it, and the
Bible doesn't teach that.
00:44:21.76\00:44:24.16
So understanding the truth about
that doctrine actually sets
00:44:24.19\00:44:28.63
you free.
00:44:28.66\00:44:29.96
Jesus said the
truth will set you free.
00:44:30.00\00:44:31.77
So I would tell people that
misunderstanding the particulars
00:44:31.80\00:44:37.84
changes their
ability to love God.
00:44:37.87\00:44:40.08
They can love Him more
when they understand the truth.
00:44:40.11\00:44:43.78
Jëan: And then also I think it's
important for us to realize that
00:44:43.81\00:44:46.85
as we near the end of time the
truths that have been revealed
00:44:46.88\00:44:50.09
in Scripture and especially in
prophecy are extremely important
00:44:50.12\00:44:53.86
to help us so we
are not deceived.
00:44:53.89\00:44:56.46
Because the Jesus said in
the last days there will be many
00:44:56.49\00:44:59.66
false prophets and many false
christs and they deceive many.
00:44:59.69\00:45:03.77
So we need to test
everything by the Word of God.
00:45:03.80\00:45:05.77
And so understanding
these important truths will be
00:45:05.80\00:45:07.84
a safeguard to help us in
the last days in particular.
00:45:07.87\00:45:11.44
For example, before Jesus
came the first time, people had
00:45:11.47\00:45:14.51
different ideas.
00:45:14.54\00:45:15.78
But if you didn't understand the
nature of Christ's first coming,
00:45:15.81\00:45:19.51
meaning that he was going to
come as a Savior and you thought
00:45:19.55\00:45:21.65
he was going to come as
a conquering king; if you
00:45:21.68\00:45:23.95
misunderstood how Christ was
going to come, you very likely
00:45:23.99\00:45:28.29
would reject him.
00:45:28.32\00:45:29.66
So at the last days, you know,
understanding how Jesus will
00:45:29.69\00:45:33.40
come and the scenes connected
with that becomes very important
00:45:33.43\00:45:36.77
because we don't want to be set
up by the devil impersonating
00:45:36.80\00:45:41.17
the Second Coming of Jesus.
00:45:41.20\00:45:42.50
Doug: Good point. Yeah.
00:45:42.54\00:45:43.87
The person of not knowing
the truth about that doctrine
00:45:43.91\00:45:45.91
can set them up
for a major deception.
00:45:45.94\00:45:48.24
Hope that helps.
00:45:48.28\00:45:49.61
Thank you,
Chelsea. A good, good point.
00:45:49.64\00:45:51.65
Jëan: All right.
We've got Jordan in Georgia.
00:45:51.68\00:45:54.02
Jordan, welcome to the program.
00:45:54.05\00:45:56.45
Jordan: I just had a question
on how do I study the Bible and,
00:45:56.48\00:46:00.66
like, take notes
and stuff like that.
00:46:00.69\00:46:02.56
Doug: That's--well,
that's a good question.
00:46:02.59\00:46:04.36
Everyone does it
a little different.
00:46:04.39\00:46:07.23
I know Karen when she's
listening to a sermon she's got
00:46:07.30\00:46:09.83
a separate pad.
00:46:09.86\00:46:11.20
She takes notes and she sticks
them in her Bible and her Bible
00:46:11.23\00:46:13.70
ends up being twice its original
size 'cause she's inserting
00:46:13.74\00:46:16.44
papers all the time.
00:46:16.47\00:46:18.84
Some people when they're
studying the Bible--I have
00:46:18.87\00:46:21.91
a color-coded--it's like a
pencil that's got three or four
00:46:21.94\00:46:25.45
different colored crayons in
it that I can click down and I
00:46:25.48\00:46:29.35
underline, and the different
colors mean different things.
00:46:29.38\00:46:31.82
So as I'm preaching
it helps me highlight.
00:46:31.85\00:46:34.22
And then I take a pencil and I
write in the margin a few words.
00:46:34.26\00:46:38.19
So that helps me
in my Bible study.
00:46:38.23\00:46:40.33
We use Bible software.
00:46:40.36\00:46:42.50
I use a program called Logos
where I can actually make notes
00:46:42.53\00:46:46.77
in the software
that will reappear later.
00:46:46.80\00:46:48.97
So I save my notes, and you can
copy them and back them up so
00:46:49.00\00:46:52.07
you don't ever lose them.
00:46:52.11\00:46:53.41
And--so some people now
are transferring a lot of their
00:46:53.44\00:46:56.78
study to digital notes
in Bible study, and that's
00:46:56.81\00:47:01.55
actually--computers have
accelerated my study ability 100
00:47:01.58\00:47:04.79
times from when I started.
00:47:04.82\00:47:06.76
Jëan: You know, I've got a whole
bunch of stuff on my computer,
00:47:06.79\00:47:08.82
but the most important file that
I've got on my computer are all
00:47:08.86\00:47:12.63
of the sermon notes and
the study notes over the years.
00:47:12.66\00:47:15.40
I'll make sure I backed that
up on the cloud because I don't
00:47:15.43\00:47:17.53
want to lose that.
00:47:17.57\00:47:18.90
I like to study, and I
like to do cross reference.
00:47:18.93\00:47:21.04
I like to read commentaries
on the different verses and then
00:47:21.07\00:47:23.87
kind of condense it down to
central thought of what's the
00:47:23.91\00:47:27.01
takeaway from that
verse, so to speak.
00:47:27.04\00:47:29.08
And then I like to
keep that together.
00:47:29.11\00:47:30.58
So find something that works and
it'll enhance your Bible study.
00:47:30.61\00:47:35.05
Doug: Yeah. Some
people take more notes.
00:47:35.08\00:47:37.75
Some people
actually use a recorder.
00:47:37.79\00:47:39.39
When I'm driving down the
road I have a tape recorder,
00:47:39.42\00:47:42.29
an old-fashioned little handheld
tape recorder, and I record
00:47:42.32\00:47:46.46
thoughts that come to me because
I know I'll forget by the time
00:47:46.49\00:47:49.40
I get home.
00:47:49.43\00:47:51.10
Jëan: All right. Thank you.
00:47:51.13\00:47:52.47
Next caller that we have
is Cindy, and she is listening
00:47:52.50\00:47:55.14
in Florida.
00:47:55.17\00:47:56.50
Cindy, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:47:56.54\00:47:58.64
Cindy: Thank you, pastors.
00:47:58.67\00:48:00.08
I appreciate your ministry.
00:48:00.11\00:48:01.91
I've been watching Pastor
Ross on my YouTube on "Sabbath
00:48:01.94\00:48:07.22
School" on Daniel and
"Pinnacles of Prophecy."
00:48:07.25\00:48:09.68
I watched doctor--doctor--Pastor
Batchelor.
00:48:09.72\00:48:14.66
So my question in general is
regarding Daniel and Revelation.
00:48:14.69\00:48:20.03
Why did Christ in prophecy
use like animals, the rams, the
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goats, the bear, the
earth water, all those?
00:48:27.40\00:48:33.07
Doug: Right, the
different symbols.
00:48:33.11\00:48:34.64
Well, two things.
00:48:34.68\00:48:36.04
One, he uses the symbols
because most of the apocalyptic
00:48:36.08\00:48:40.48
prophecies were written
while God's people were captive
00:48:40.52\00:48:43.79
with--under another nation.
00:48:43.82\00:48:45.69
You had--for instance, Babylon
had occupied the Jews when
00:48:45.72\00:48:51.16
Daniel had his prophecies,
and some of the prophecies talk
00:48:51.19\00:48:53.90
about the fall of Babylon.
00:48:53.93\00:48:55.20
So those sym--those
things are couched in symbols.
00:48:55.23\00:48:58.90
Babylon's a lion, for example.
00:48:58.93\00:49:00.87
By the way, when they excavated
Babylon, they found lions with
00:49:00.90\00:49:03.87
wings on the walls, which
is what they saw in vision.
00:49:03.91\00:49:07.94
Then another thing to
keep in mind is the Israelites
00:49:07.98\00:49:10.88
were shepherds.
00:49:10.91\00:49:12.58
It was a nation of
shepherds to begin with.
00:49:12.61\00:49:15.38
So when it's talking about
the sheep and the goat that are
00:49:15.42\00:49:19.89
fighting, those
are clean animals.
00:49:19.92\00:49:21.82
Then you get to the bear,
the leopard, the lion, those are
00:49:21.86\00:49:24.19
unclean animals.
00:49:24.23\00:49:25.53
There's actually
meaning there as well.
00:49:25.56\00:49:27.96
So, you know, these common
animals were used as symbols
00:49:27.96\00:49:34.90
and--you know, in the
Bible, a lamb, of course a type
00:49:34.94\00:49:38.54
of Christ.
00:49:38.57\00:49:39.87
Water represented a
multitude of people.
00:49:39.91\00:49:41.24
Stormy waters
represented times of trouble.
00:49:41.28\00:49:44.35
These symbols are
given other places.
00:49:44.38\00:49:47.08
Jesus said that, "I speak to you
in parables that though the wise
00:49:47.12\00:49:50.65
will understand."
00:49:50.69\00:49:51.99
He wants us to dig a little bit.
00:49:52.02\00:49:53.56
Jëan: And of course some of
the things that are revealed in
00:49:53.59\00:49:55.29
prophecy really have to do with
kingdoms that were in power at
00:49:55.32\00:49:58.59
the time.
00:49:58.63\00:49:59.93
So, for example, if you go to
the 1st century early Christian
00:49:59.96\00:50:03.20
church, there are things
revealed in Bible prophecy that
00:50:03.23\00:50:07.07
probably those who were in power
had they clearly understood it
00:50:07.10\00:50:11.84
it might have brought
even more persecution.
00:50:11.87\00:50:14.28
So it was couched in symbolism
that the wise would understand
00:50:14.31\00:50:17.65
it, those who are studying.
00:50:17.68\00:50:18.98
But those who shouldn't know
about it didn't understand it,
00:50:19.01\00:50:22.28
and that was true all
through the middle ages to the
00:50:22.32\00:50:24.52
dark ages.
00:50:24.55\00:50:26.39
Doug: Okay. Hope
that helps a little.
00:50:26.42\00:50:29.09
Jëan: All right, next caller
that we have is--let's see.
00:50:29.12\00:50:30.79
We've got Janet in California.
Janet, welcome to the program.
00:50:30.83\00:50:34.46
Janet: Hi, yeah, my question is,
00:50:34.50\00:50:36.80
so, if you're saved
and when you die you go to
00:50:36.83\00:50:40.67
heaven and--when people die,
a lot of people say that, "Okay,
00:50:40.70\00:50:43.91
they're in heaven now and
they're with other loved ones
00:50:43.94\00:50:46.14
or friends," or whatever.
00:50:46.17\00:50:47.71
And in the Bible when it talks
about Jesus going back for his
00:50:47.74\00:50:50.08
people, it says how the dead
will go and then the living.
00:50:50.11\00:50:55.25
So where are you
really when you're dead?
00:50:55.28\00:50:57.59
Doug: Yeah. Well,
you're very perceptive.
00:50:57.62\00:51:00.36
It's--a lot of
misunderstandings about this.
00:51:00.39\00:51:02.09
You know, you read that passage
in 2 Corinthians where it says
00:51:02.12\00:51:04.86
"to be absent from the body
is to be present with the Lord."
00:51:04.89\00:51:07.86
And for a believer, your next
conscious thought when you die
00:51:07.86\00:51:12.10
is the Resurrection,
but it hasn't happened yet.
00:51:12.13\00:51:15.07
So the dead are not up
there now roaming around looking
00:51:15.10\00:51:17.84
down on us.
00:51:17.87\00:51:19.17
The Bible tells us in
Ecclesiastes chapter 9,
00:51:19.21\00:51:22.14
the living know they'll die.
00:51:22.18\00:51:23.51
The dead don't know anything.
00:51:23.55\00:51:25.25
David says in Psalms the
dead do not praise the Lord.
00:51:25.28\00:51:29.15
Hezekiah repeats
something similar.
00:51:29.18\00:51:31.42
The--Jesus said, "Our
friend Lazarus is asleep."
00:51:31.45\00:51:35.49
So when a person dies, they are
sleeping a dreamless sleep with
00:51:35.52\00:51:39.59
no consciousness of time.
00:51:39.63\00:51:41.83
So for them the next conscious
thought if they're saved is the
00:51:41.86\00:51:45.73
Second Coming.
00:51:45.77\00:51:47.07
The trumpet blows.
They come out of the graves.
00:51:47.10\00:51:49.10
Right now they
are resting in peace.
00:51:49.14\00:51:51.27
That's why you get that on
the tombstones that used to say
00:51:51.31\00:51:54.58
R-I-P, RIP, resting in peace.
00:51:54.61\00:51:56.44
So until the Resurrection, the
Judgment hasn't happened yet.
00:51:56.48\00:52:00.72
So for the Lord to take people
and put them in heaven or hell
00:52:00.75\00:52:03.59
before the Resurrection and
before the Judgment and then
00:52:03.62\00:52:06.15
pull them out again to judge
them wouldn't make any sense.
00:52:06.19\00:52:09.66
What confuses people is they
forget that God lives outside
00:52:09.69\00:52:13.16
of time.
00:52:13.19\00:52:14.50
For us in this world, the
Resurrection hasn't happened.
00:52:14.56\00:52:17.43
People are asleep.
00:52:17.47\00:52:18.90
The Bible says those that are in
their graves will hear his voice
00:52:18.93\00:52:22.57
and come forth.
00:52:22.60\00:52:23.91
Where are they?
00:52:23.94\00:52:25.27
They're in their
graves until the Resurrection.
00:52:25.31\00:52:27.31
So we have a study guide.
00:52:27.34\00:52:28.58
We can send a free copy of that
to Janet and anyone who wants to
00:52:28.61\00:52:32.35
know about that subject.
00:52:32.38\00:52:33.65
Jëan: Yeah, just call the number
800-835-6747 and you can ask for
00:52:33.68\00:52:38.85
the study guide.
00:52:38.89\00:52:40.22
It's called "Are
the Dead Really Dead?"
00:52:40.26\00:52:41.76
We'll be happy to send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:52:41.79\00:52:44.23
That's 800-835-6747.
00:52:44.26\00:52:47.03
You can also dial #250 on your
smartphone, say Bible answers
00:52:47.10\00:52:50.83
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"Are the Dead Really Dead?"
00:52:50.87\00:52:53.90
And we can send
it to you digitally.
00:52:53.94\00:52:55.97
So you'll be able
to read it right along.
00:52:56.00\00:52:58.01
We also have a website called
deathtruth.com that's filled
00:52:58.04\00:53:01.71
with a lot of great studies
and resources and sermons.
00:53:01.74\00:53:04.48
So take a look at that.
00:53:04.51\00:53:06.05
All right. Thank you.
00:53:06.08\00:53:07.75
Do we have Patty on
the line, Patty in Idaho?
00:53:07.78\00:53:12.39
Patty: Hi. Hi, pastors.
00:53:12.42\00:53:15.09
Doug: Hi. How are you?
00:53:15.12\00:53:17.79
Patty: Good. Good.
00:53:17.83\00:53:19.16
I have a question.
00:53:19.19\00:53:20.50
I think I'm really trying to
gain some better understanding
00:53:20.53\00:53:21.83
of God's character, my question.
00:53:21.86\00:53:24.50
But Revelation 7--or 1:7 says,
"He is coming with the clouds.
00:53:24.53\00:53:28.44
Every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him."
00:53:28.47\00:53:32.21
And so my question is, is it--I
guess I operate under the idea
00:53:32.24\00:53:36.08
that those who
pierced him are not saved.
00:53:36.11\00:53:38.51
So they should be a part of
the second resurrection after
00:53:38.55\00:53:41.52
the Millennium.
00:53:41.55\00:53:42.85
But he does a special--or
what seems to me a special
00:53:42.88\00:53:45.39
resurrection for those.
00:53:45.42\00:53:47.22
Which I know God's character is
perfect, but me as a human when
00:53:47.26\00:53:51.73
I read this I can't
help but think it's boastful.
00:53:51.76\00:53:55.40
Doug: Yeah.
00:53:55.43\00:53:56.73
Well, I do believe that
when the Lord comes there is
00:53:56.77\00:54:00.37
a special resurrection.
00:54:00.40\00:54:01.74
Jesus said at his trial to
the high priest, "Hereafter, you
00:54:01.77\00:54:05.01
will see the Son of man coming
in the clouds of glory on the
00:54:05.04\00:54:07.91
right hand of power."
00:54:07.94\00:54:09.18
So there will be some who are
raised that actually see that,
00:54:09.21\00:54:13.52
and it's like a
special resurrection.
00:54:13.55\00:54:15.48
It's an exception.
00:54:15.52\00:54:16.99
Jëan: But it's also just
in response to the demand.
00:54:17.02\00:54:19.29
They wanted evidence.
00:54:19.32\00:54:20.69
They said, "Are you the Christ?"
00:54:20.72\00:54:22.39
And they kept pushing him.
00:54:22.42\00:54:23.76
And finally Jesus said,
"Well, if you want evidence,
00:54:23.79\00:54:25.16
you'll get it.
00:54:25.19\00:54:26.53
You'll see me coming
in the clouds of glory."
00:54:26.56\00:54:27.86
Doug: Yes. Absolutely.
00:54:27.86\00:54:31.20
You know, Pastor Ross, we
don't have time to run another
00:54:31.23\00:54:33.40
question before
we take our break.
00:54:33.44\00:54:35.54
Some people may not know
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00:54:35.57\00:54:38.51
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00:54:38.54\00:54:39.87
We have some who are listening
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00:54:39.91\00:54:43.04
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Pastor Doug, first question
tonight, "Why do we wear shoes
00:55:43.54\00:55:46.31
in church if being in
the presence of God is on
00:55:46.34\00:55:49.01
holy ground?"
00:55:49.04\00:55:50.91
Doug: Well, there are a few
exceptions in the Bible when it
00:55:50.95\00:55:53.45
tells us that God told Joshua
and He told Moses, "Take your
00:55:53.48\00:55:57.72
shoes off.
00:55:57.75\00:55:59.09
You're on holy ground."
00:55:59.12\00:56:00.49
They were in the physical
presence of the Christ and God's
00:56:00.52\00:56:05.83
glory at that time.
00:56:05.86\00:56:08.76
It doesn't tell us that the
Levites were to take their shoes
00:56:08.80\00:56:11.20
off when they went into the
temple, and, you know, they were
00:56:11.23\00:56:14.10
ministering for the Lord.
00:56:14.14\00:56:15.57
So the high priest may have
done that when he went in on the
00:56:15.60\00:56:18.77
holy days, on
the--what do you call it?
00:56:18.81\00:56:20.24
The Day of Atonement.
00:56:20.28\00:56:21.61
But I think on day to day they
were, you know, busy butchering
00:56:21.64\00:56:25.05
animals and stuff.
00:56:25.08\00:56:26.41
Some countries do.
00:56:26.45\00:56:27.75
If that's the custom for
respect, I'd say do whatever
00:56:27.78\00:56:30.49
they do.
00:56:30.52\00:56:31.85
You and I were at a church
in India that had over 100,000
00:56:31.89\00:56:35.46
members and several services.
00:56:35.49\00:56:37.19
They all took off their
shoes before they came in.
00:56:37.23\00:56:39.96
It was really--and they
managed--most of them got their
00:56:40.00\00:56:41.73
shoes back after the service.
00:56:41.76\00:56:43.97
So I'd say whatever--do
whatever is respectful.
00:56:44.00\00:56:46.57
Jëan: Okay, another question
that we have, "Can you explain
00:56:46.60\00:56:49.44
the rapture of the church?"
00:56:49.47\00:56:51.21
Doug: Yeah, well, the--God is
not going to rapture the church
00:56:51.24\00:56:55.58
separately from when
He raptures the saints.
00:56:55.61\00:56:58.51
Some people think that from
Revelation chapter 4 on is--the
00:56:58.55\00:57:03.22
church goes to heaven when
it says, "I saw a door open
00:57:03.25\00:57:05.79
in heaven."
00:57:05.82\00:57:07.16
I respectfully disagree.
00:57:07.19\00:57:08.49
I don't think that's what is
happening there in Revelation
00:57:08.52\00:57:09.99
chapter 4.
00:57:10.03\00:57:11.49
Several things in
Revelation, after chapter 4,
00:57:11.53\00:57:13.73
describe the
church in the world.
00:57:13.76\00:57:15.70
It's not just
talking about Israel.
00:57:15.73\00:57:17.57
And so the idea that the church
is going to be raptured and
00:57:17.60\00:57:21.04
saved from tribulation,
that's a pleasant thought.
00:57:21.07\00:57:24.44
But my Bible says he that
endures to the end will be saved
00:57:24.47\00:57:28.94
and that God's people are going
to be saved through tribulation,
00:57:28.98\00:57:32.61
not from tribulation.
00:57:32.65\00:57:34.42
And I think we even
have a book on that.
00:57:34.45\00:57:35.78
If they read
"Anything But Secret."
00:57:35.82\00:57:37.82
You can ask for a free copy of
"Anything But Secret," and that
00:57:37.85\00:57:41.49
will explain that subject.
00:57:41.52\00:57:42.82
Jëan: All right, last question.
00:57:42.86\00:57:44.19
"Do you think Judas Iscariot
would have been forgiven if he
00:57:44.23\00:57:46.33
repented after
the Resurrection?"
00:57:46.36\00:57:49.26
Doug: Well, of course he killed
himself before the Resurrection.
00:57:49.30\00:57:51.93
But I think if he had sincerely
repented, Jesus would have
00:57:51.97\00:57:55.34
forgived him.
00:57:55.37\00:57:56.71
But he had grieved
away the Holy Spirit
00:57:56.74\00:57:58.41
there in the Upper Room.
00:57:58.44\00:57:59.77
He kind of had his last chance
when Jesus offered to wash his
00:57:59.81\00:58:02.54
feet, and the Bible
says that Satan entered him.
00:58:02.58\00:58:05.41
He went out, and it was night.
00:58:05.45\00:58:07.45
Friends, don't let
that happen to you.
00:58:07.48\00:58:09.58
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00:58:09.62\00:58:11.42
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00:58:11.45\00:58:12.75
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