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Running from the Daylight

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00:43 Now here's your host from Amazing Facts International,
00:47 Pastor Doug Batchelor.
00:50 Doug Batchelor: Hello, listening friends, would you like to hear
00:52 an Amazing Fact?
00:54 Well, it's no longer the stuff of Star Trek, Star Wars, and
00:58 science fiction.
00:59 In January 2024, the British Ministry of Defense announced
01:03 that they successfully test fired a laser weapon to take out
01:07 an aircraft.
01:09 Laser directed energy weapons, or LDEWs, use an intense light
01:14 beam to cut through their target, and they can strike at
01:16 the speed of light.
01:18 The range of the device called DragonFire is still classified,
01:22 but the sophisticated laser cannon is so precise, it can hit
01:26 a silver dollar from a mile away.
01:29 This will be especially useful to defend against the increasing
01:32 number of consumer drones that are being used, in warfare.
01:36 The DragonFire laser is not only fast, accurate, and deadly, it's
01:41 comparatively inexpensive to operate.
01:43 For example, a typical Tomahawk cruise missile costs roughly
01:48 $1.5 million, one missile.
01:50 The DragonFire cannon can shoot down a target for roughly $13
01:55 in electricity.
01:57 As I remember, Pastor Ross, the Bible says, "God's got a big
02:01 laser that he's going to use at the Second Coming."
02:04 Jëan Ross: That's right.
02:05 Pastor Doug, it's going to be a gloriously bright light,
02:08 the Bible says.
02:09 "For when He comes, the wicked are destroyed with the
02:10 brightness of His coming."
02:13 Doug: Probably the verse that sounds the most laser-like is
02:16 when you read in 2 Thessalonians 2, verse 8, "And then the
02:19 lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with
02:23 the breath of His mouth and--" notice--"destroy with the
02:25 brightness of His coming."
02:27 Something bright happening there.
02:29 It's kind of like when the sons of Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, it
02:35 says, "So fire went out from the Lord and devoured them."
02:38 They went into the sanctuary, and, evidently they were drunk,
02:41 and they brought in strange fire, and fire came down like
02:44 a laser.
02:46 And then you also have that verse in Hebrews 10:27 speaking
02:50 of those that reject God's truth, it says, "But they can
02:53 only look forward to fearful expectation of judgment, and
02:57 fiery indignation that will devour the adversaries," like
03:01 those that are destroyed by the brightness of His coming.
03:05 You know, I sometimes use the illustration that, if you go out
03:10 at night with a flashlight in the woods, and you tip over a
03:14 rock, you know, all of these creepy crawlies come out; they
03:19 run from the light.
03:21 But, if you set that light up out in the field, the moths come
03:25 to the light.
03:26 So some run from the light, and some go to the light.
03:28 And, when Jesus comes, everybody's either a cockroach
03:31 or a butterfly.
03:32 Jëan: That's right, Pastor Doug.
03:34 Actually, Revelation chapter 6 describes that; it says,
03:36 "The wicked turn at the rocks in the mountains.
03:38 They say, 'Fall on us, hide us from the face of him who sits
03:41 upon the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!'"
03:44 So they're wanting to hide from that glorious light appearing of
03:47 Christ when He comes a second time.
03:48 But, for the righteous, "They look up and say, 'This is
03:51 our God.
03:52 We've waited for Him.
03:53 He will save us.'"
03:55 Doug: That's right.
03:56 Well, you know, the Bible is clear about one thing.
03:57 The world as we know it is not going to last, and everybody
04:00 listening right now, even if you're in perfect health,
04:02 you're terminal.
04:03 These lives are short, and all of us will someday have our
04:07 last night.
04:08 And there is going to be a last night on earth.
04:12 We need to be ready for the end.
04:15 This life is to prepare for the life that lasts forever.
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05:23 Dear Father, we are grateful once again for this time that
05:26 You've given us to be able to open up the Bible and study.
05:29 It is the most important book in the world.
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05:38 The first caller that we have this evening is David, and he's
05:41 listening in California.
05:42 David, Welcome to Bible Answers Live!
05:45 David: Hi.
05:47 Doug: Hi, evening.
05:51 David: My question tonight is, how long will the
05:54 tribulation last?
05:56 Doug: All right, good question.
05:57 Now, when we talk about the tribulation, virtually all
06:01 Christian denominations agree there is going to be a very
06:05 severe tribulation of some sort prior to the Second Coming.
06:09 Jesus said that, "Except those days be shortened, no flesh
06:13 would be saved."
06:14 He said, "For then shall be great tribulation."
06:16 And, if you go to the end of the Book of Daniel, it says, "At
06:19 that time," this is Daniel chapter 12, "Michael will stand
06:22 up, the great prince that stands for the children of thy people:
06:26 and there will be a time of trouble, such as there never has
06:29 been since there was a nation even under the same time...
06:32 and many that sleep in the dust of the earth will awake."
06:35 So that's the resurrection.
06:36 How long will this great tribulation be?
06:40 Now, a lot of people listening right now, you probably heard
06:42 reference to the seven years of tribulation.
06:45 Actually, the phrase seven years of tribulation does not appear
06:49 in the Bible.
06:50 It's presumed, and, if I'm not mistaken, Pastor Ross, that
06:54 concept is taken from the Book of Daniel 9 where they take the
06:58 last week of the 490-year prophecy there, and they kind of
07:03 hover it at the end of time, which, there's no other prophecy
07:06 where you break off part of it and float it where you want.
07:09 Some people think that it's seven years because there were
07:12 seven days after Noah entered the ark, and he was sealed and
07:17 shut inside, and the wicked were outside; their probation
07:20 was closed.
07:21 And they thought, you know, maybe that's where you can get
07:24 seven years of tribulation.
07:25 Others have thought that there'll be--And, by the way,
07:27 there's two phases of the time of trouble.
07:30 You might call one the small time of trouble.
07:32 That's when you can't buy or sell.
07:34 Then Revelation 13 says, ultimately, there is a death
07:37 decree, and that's very intense; that's the seven last plagues.
07:41 And it's hard to imagine the life on earth going on for seven
07:45 years with the oceans being blood, boils, great heat.
07:49 I mean, that seems like it's going to be a condensed period
07:52 of time or more concentrated.
07:54 Jëan: There is a verse, actually, it's interesting.
07:56 Revelation chapter 18, verse 8, we're talking about the seven
07:58 last plagues.
08:00 This is what the verse says, it says, "Therefore her plagues
08:02 shall come in one day," and the her there he is referring
08:05 to Babylon.
08:06 This is the downfall of Babylon.
08:07 We know that the plagues as described in the Book of
08:09 Revelation begins with the sea turning to blood and all this,
08:12 there's a painful sore, and then the sea turns to blood, and
08:14 so on.
08:16 But we know in Bible prophecy, one prophetic day is equal to
08:18 one literal year.
08:19 So that's led some scholars to feel that the seven last plagues
08:22 will fall in about the period of a year because it says, "Her
08:26 plague shall come in one day."
08:27 That's Revelation 18, verse 8. Doug: I can't even imagine a
08:31 year like that.
08:32 That'd be a bad year.
08:33 Jëan: It would be.
08:35 Doug: So don't worry about the time of trouble, friends.
08:36 Just be faithful day by day is the key.
08:39 Jëan: And God promised to take care of His people during
08:41 that time.
08:43 Doug: Now, we do have a book called "Anything But Secret!"
08:45 And the last half of that book talks about the tribulation.
08:48 And, if people would like a free copy of that, we have it.
08:51 Jëan: The number to call for that is 800-835-6747, and you
08:55 can ask for the book.
08:56 It's called "Anything But Secret!"
08:58 It's one of the Amazing Facts study guides.
08:59 But I think it's also actually, that's the book.
09:01 Doug: Sermon book, yeah.
09:02 Jëan: That's one of the books.
09:04 800-835-6747.
09:06 You can dial #250 on your smartphone, and ask for the book
09:10 as well.
09:11 We have Anna listening in Oregon.
09:13 Anna, welcome to the program.
09:15 Anna: Evening, pastors.
09:17 Doug: Evening.
09:18 Anna: My question is, what is the true meaning of speaking
09:23 in tongues?
09:24 Doug: I'm glad you asked.
09:25 I wish I had that question more often.
09:28 It's just close to my heart because, when I first became a
09:30 Christian, all of my friends I worship with were what we
09:33 would call Charismatic Christians.
09:36 And they practiced speaking what you would call speaking in
09:39 tongues where, you know, they would ostensibly go into this
09:44 Spirit led trance where they would begin babbling
09:47 and muttering.
09:48 And they said this is a heavenly language and the heavenly
09:50 prayer language.
09:51 And I'd say, "What are you praying?"
09:52 They said, "I don't know."
09:54 Or someone might come along and translate for them.
09:55 And, you know, that's a comparatively new phenomenon
10:00 in Christianity.
10:02 The speaking in tongues that you see in the Bible--First of all,
10:05 you can read in Mark chapter 16 where Jesus said among the signs
10:10 that His Spirit would fall upon them, it says, "They will speak
10:14 with new tongues."
10:15 The word tongues means languages.
10:17 And you see, in Acts chapter 2, the fulfillment of that.
10:20 When the Holy Spirit was poured out, there were Jews visiting
10:23 from all over the Roman Empire on the day of Pentecost; they
10:26 had come on a pilgrimage.
10:28 And the Lord gave the 12 apostles, and others in the
10:31 upper room, the supernatural ability to speak languages they
10:36 did not formally know or study for the purpose of preaching the
10:40 gospel to these visiting Jews.
10:43 Other times in the early days of the church, people were given
10:47 the the gift of tongues to speak in languages they did not know.
10:52 See, at the Tower of Babel, God cursed man, and there was
10:56 confusion they couldn't understand.
10:59 At Pentecost, He reversed the curse and gave the disciples
11:02 the ability to communicate the gospel in any language.
11:05 But they were real languages of the world.
11:07 It doesn't say that they just babbled or muttered.
11:10 Paul says in f1 Corinthians 14, "Except you utter by the tongue
11:14 words to be easy, easy to be understood, no one will know
11:17 what you're saying."
11:18 You're speaking into the air.
11:20 Paul said, "I'd rather speak five words where, by my tongue,
11:22 I might educate or teach someone than 10,000 in a language
11:25 someone doesn't understand."
11:27 So we got a gift book on it.
11:30 I could say much more, but I'd launch into sermon number 36.
11:33 So, better save that.
11:35 Jëan: That's right; that book is called "Understanding Tongues,"
11:37 and we'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks.
11:39 Again, the number is 800-835-6747.
11:42 Or you can dial #250, ask for Bible Answers Live if you're
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11:58 Next caller that we have is Ryan, and he's listening in
12:01 New Mexico.
12:02 Ryan, welcome to Bible Answers Live!
12:05 Ryan: Hello, how y'all doing today?
12:07 Doug: Doing good, thanks for calling.
12:10 Ryan: My question is, is keeping the Sabbath on the pagan Roman
12:14 calendar, the Gregorian calendar seven day cycle?
12:18 It only uses the sun.
12:20 Is that actually sun worship?
12:21 I mean, because it's only dealing with the sun, that seven
12:25 day cycle.
12:26 I think, you know, pagan Rome got that from the looney solar
12:32 calendar, you know what I mean?
12:34 Doug: Yeah, you've got two calendars.
12:37 When Jesus was born, Julius Caesar had already lived and
12:40 died when Jesus was born.
12:41 And they were using what they called the Julian Calendar.
12:45 And, you know, the calendar names that we use, and even the
12:49 names for the days of the week, we get most of that from
12:52 the Romans.
12:53 The Romans got some of it influenced by the Greeks, and
12:55 you could even trace some of it back maybe to Babylon.
12:57 But the days of the the week, the day of the sun is Sunday,
13:03 the day of the moon is Monday, so forth, you know.
13:06 Wednesday was Odin's Day.
13:07 Thursday, it was Thor's day.
13:09 Saturday was Saturn day.
13:10 In the Bible, they never used any of the Roman names.
13:14 They use first day, second day, third day.
13:16 Now, we know what the days of the week are.
13:17 The Romans had a seven day week, and the Jews had a seven day
13:20 week, and we all have a seven day week.
13:22 The seven day week of the Romans; their first day of the
13:26 Jews was what the Romans call Sunday, or we call Sunday.
13:29 And, even in the Bible, we know Jesus rose the first day of
13:32 the week.
13:33 It's not sun worship if we're using a calendar for keeping
13:37 appointments, about what time of year it is for planting
13:40 or whatever.
13:41 What are you going to call the months?
13:43 Are you going to use the Jewish names for the months?
13:44 But the calendar never affects the weekly cycle.
13:48 Now, it doesn't matter whether you're using the Julian
13:50 calendar--when they switched from the Julian calendar to the
13:53 Gregorian calendar--You can help me, Pastor Ross.
13:56 You've done this meeting before.
13:58 It was October 5, Thursday, 1582 I think.
14:06 And then it went, the next day, went to October 15, Friday.
14:13 So they went all the way from the 5th to the 15th.
14:16 They dropped in when they switched from the Julian to the
14:19 Gregorian calendar, but they went from Thursday to Friday.
14:23 So, while they made a jump and a change in the calendar, it never
14:26 affected the weekly cycle.
14:27 Thursday was followed by Friday.
14:30 Is that right?
14:32 Jëan: Well, yeah, you said 1582.
14:33 Doug: What was it?
14:35 Jëan: Let's see.
14:36 The change from the Julian to Gregorian calendar
14:38 occurred 1582.
14:40 Let me see.
14:42 It doesn't give us the exact-- I'm looking this up.
14:43 Doug: I'm pretty sure about the October.
14:45 Jëan: Yeah, here it is.
14:46 October 4 was followed by October 15 in 1582.
14:48 Doug: October 4,15.
14:50 Yeah, they added 10 days.
14:51 All right, I got that wrong.
14:52 I said October 5, so, but Thursday was followed by Friday.
14:55 So I don't know if that helps, Ryan, answer your question.
14:58 But I don't consider it sun worship if, you know, it's the
15:02 only calendar the world follows right now.
15:05 And it dates back before the time of Christ.
15:07 Jesus didn't follow a calendar.
15:09 Jesus lived by the weekly cycle, as far as what day was Sabbath?
15:14 That was the same seven days we keep now.
15:17 Jëan: And different languages use different names obviously
15:19 for the days of the week.
15:21 It is interesting, though, in a number of languages that the
15:24 seventh day of the week that we call Saturday today is actually
15:26 Sabado, if it's Spanish, or a number of other languages.
15:30 Doug: Subbota in Russian.
15:31 Jëan: That's right, which connects to the Hebrew.
15:33 Yeah.
15:34 Very interesting.
15:35 Okay, next caller that we have is Wade listening in Minnesota.
15:37 Wade, welcome to the program.
15:40 Wade: Yeah.
15:41 Hi, Pastor Doug.
15:43 I just wanted to say that your testimony is the most powerful
15:47 I've ever heard.
15:48 Doug: Thank you.
15:50 Wade: I just wanted you to know that.
15:52 But the question I have is about 2 Timothy 2:15 where the Apostle
15:58 Paul talks about rightly dividing the Word of truth.
16:02 Is he talking about studying the Bible dispensationally or what's
16:08 he talking about there?
16:10 Doug: Well, I think Paul's comment, and this is, it says,
16:14 "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who
16:17 does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word
16:19 of truth."
16:21 Well, when you're teaching truth from the Scriptures, you don't
16:26 want to use goofy comparisons like, you know, I heard a pastor
16:30 say once, you know, you could find the verse that says Judas
16:34 went out and hung himself.
16:36 The Bible does say that, and then you can jump to a verse
16:38 that says, go thou do likewise.
16:40 Well, that's not rightly dividing the Word of truth,
16:42 telling people that you're supposed to go hang yourself
16:44 like Judas because you've patched together two Scriptures.
16:46 You've not divided it rightly.
16:48 So dividing it rightly means comparing Scriptures and themes
16:53 with appropriate or similar Scriptures or themes to teach a
16:56 point so that you're faithfully teaching things in context and
17:02 staying with the essence of what the truth would be.
17:06 Jëan: You know, we have a book that's called "The Ultimate
17:07 Resource," and it's all about the Bible.
17:09 It talks about how to study the Bible.
17:11 We'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks.
17:13 The number is 800-835-6747.
17:16 Just ask once again for that book, it's called "The
17:18 Ultimate Resource."
17:20 It's all about the Bible.
17:21 You can dial #250 on your smartphone, and say Bible
17:24 Answers Live, and then ask for the book by name.
17:27 Thank you, Wade.
17:29 We've got Shannon listening in Georgia.
17:30 Shannon, welcome to the program.
17:34 Shannon: Oh, thank you.
17:35 My question is, Psalms 1 through 3, it mentions David fighting
17:42 against an unknown group.
17:45 And what I wanted to know is, if there's anywhere listed in
17:49 the Bible that I can find out who these people were?
17:52 Doug: You said Psalms 1 through 3?
17:55 Shannon: Psalm 60.
17:58 Doug: Psalm 60, verses 1 through 3?
18:01 Okay, and let me read that for our friends.
18:04 "O God, you've cast us off; You have broken us down; You have
18:07 been displeased; Oh, restore us again!
18:09 You've made the earth to tremble; You've broken it; Heal
18:12 its breaches, for it is shaking; You've shown Your people hard
18:15 things; You have made us drink the wine of confusion."
18:20 Now keep in mind David did not write all of the Psalms.
18:24 He probably, I think he wrote 70 of them.
18:26 If I'm not mistaken, Pastor Ross.
18:28 Some were written by Asaph and some, maybe even Solomon, the
18:31 Bible says, wrote some Psalms.
18:33 When it says, you've made us drink the wine of confusion,
18:36 it's interesting.
18:37 It talks about the wine of Babylon in, is that Revelation
18:41 17, Pastor Ross?
18:42 Babylon's made the nations drunk with--
18:44 Jëan: Drunk with wine, yep.
18:46 Revelation 17.
18:47 Doug: And this could be an allusion to one of the many
18:50 times the children of Israel were conquered, because of their
18:52 unfaithfulness, by some surrounding nation.
18:55 It doesn't say what that nation is.
18:57 Oh, wait a second now; I take it back.
19:00 It says--and I wasn't reading the preface to the Psalm,
19:04 "A michtam of David.
19:05 For teaching.
19:07 When he fought against Mesopotamia and Syria of Zobah,
19:09 and Joab returned and killed twelve thousand Edomites in the
19:12 Valley of Salt."
19:13 Yeah, I remember that was when Joab fought one group, and he
19:17 sent his brother Adonijah to fight the other group.
19:20 They got kind of attacked from the north and the south at
19:22 one time.
19:23 And they looked like, I think David is kind of pleading here
19:28 for victory.
19:29 But they won that battle.
19:31 Jëan: They did.
19:32 Yeah.
19:33 All right.
19:35 Very good.
19:36 Well, thank you, Shannon.
19:38 We've got Lee in Texas.
19:39 Lee, welcome to the program.
19:40 Lee: Yes, sir.
19:42 Good evening.
19:43 Doug: Evening.
19:44 Lee: My question for the night would be, what does it mean by
19:46 the man of sin will takes his seat in the temple of God?
19:50 Is that in Rome or is that in Jerusalem?
19:54 Doug: I think it's in Rome because, when it says that he
19:59 sits in the temple of God showing himself that he is God--
20:02 Of course, there is no Hebrew temple now.
20:04 But Jesus said, "Destroy this temple made with hands, and in
20:07 three days I will make one without hands."
20:10 And it says, He spoke of His Body.
20:11 The church is called the Body of Christ.
20:14 And the Bible says, we are living stones built up to a
20:17 spiritual house.
20:18 So, when you talk about someone sitting in the temple of God
20:21 showing Himself that He is God, it's talking about someone
20:24 sitting over the church saying they hold some divine position.
20:29 And many Protestants believe that's speaking of what the
20:32 Roman pontiff did.
20:35 Jëan: John chapter 2, verse 19, Jesus said, "Destroy this
20:38 temple, in three days I'll raise it up again."
20:40 And, of course, He spoke not only of His Body, but He also
20:43 spoke of the New Testament church.
20:45 And there is no place really for any person to sit and rule in
20:50 the temple that was in Jerusalem.
20:52 Of course, it was a story in 70 AD.
20:54 But, when you compare that to the church in, like you
20:57 mentioned the city of Rome, yes, there is a king that actually
21:01 rules from that church, from that cathedral, which was never
21:05 the case as it related to Jerusalem and the temple there.
21:09 Doug: Yeah, the Jewish temple had no throne room.
21:11 Jëan: That's right.
21:12 Doug: It just had a place for the the Ark.
21:13 But you and I were in the Vatican.
21:15 Jëan: Right in the very heart of the church.
21:18 Doug: And there's a big place for the throne--there is a
21:19 problem there--between two angels, that's right.
21:22 Jëan: Okay, well, thank you, Lee.
21:24 We've got Robert listening in Washington.
21:25 Robert, welcome to the program.
21:28 Robert: All right, good evening.
21:29 Thank you for being here tonight.
21:32 Doug: Well, praise the Lord.
21:33 We're glad that we can study the Word with our friends.
21:36 Robert: Yes.
21:38 as you might see on your note, this is, it's a little bit
21:41 different question than I had tonight.
21:43 regarding the history slash Bible.
21:49 I was discussing um the Second Coming, the signs of the Second
21:54 Coming with a friend and regarding May 1780, the dark day
22:01 and then the falling of the stars.
22:03 And she was saying, telling me that, "Well, how do you know
22:09 that May 1780 is a dark day?"
22:12 I mean, she was saying, "Well, there's been many dark days,
22:15 there's been many times that the stars fell from heaven.
22:18 So how can you pinpoint these two dates?"
22:24 Can you possibly help me with that?
22:27 Doug: Yeah, well, keep in mind that prophecy has
22:31 a historical application.
22:34 So Jesus wanting the church to know when His coming was near,
22:38 He would give major signs in history.
22:40 Now, in Matthew 24, He said that there would be great
22:44 earthquakes, that the sun would turn dark, the moon would turn
22:48 to blood, the stars would fall to heaven.
22:51 Those things have happened on a historic timeline in a very
22:55 significant way.
22:56 I mean, you can go to the encyclopedia or even on Google,
23:00 and, if you say, what was the day of the Great Star falling,
23:03 it'll take you to, is it-- Jëan: 1833.
23:06 Doug: Yeah, I think it's May 1833.
23:09 Abraham Lincoln even comments on that because he saw it.
23:12 It was a quite a significant event, and, when you talk about
23:15 the dark day, that was something that's in the history books, and
23:18 this is all happening, and then the Lisbon earthquake.
23:22 That was maybe not the most intense, but it was one of the
23:25 most widely felt earthquakes as far as its geography.
23:29 Jëan: That was 1755, the Lisbon earthquake.
23:32 You know what else is interesting is the way Jesus
23:34 mentions that there in Matthew 24, He talks about an
23:36 earthquake, He talks about the sun becoming dark, the moon
23:40 being as blood, and then the stars falling from heaven.
23:43 And right around that time period, 1755, you have the
23:46 Lisbon earthquake, which was felt they say on three
23:49 continents, Africa, Europe, and even as far away as
23:51 North America.
23:53 And then you had the dark day, as we mentioned, in 17, when was
23:57 that date, that came a little later, 1780?
24:00 Then you have the Leonid meteor shower in 1833.
24:05 And all of these are announcing the coming of a day of judgment.
24:08 And we understand that to have taken place at the end of the
24:11 2300 days in 1844, according to Daniel 8:14.
24:15 So these are significant events that point to a fulfillment
24:19 of prophecy.
24:20 And they understood that, even back in those times; there's
24:23 many historical records of, when this day suddenly turned dark,
24:26 people began to wonder, "Well, is this the end of the world?"
24:29 And, when the stars fell, people were wondering, "Wow, is this a
24:31 warning that God is giving?"
24:32 So they understood the the significance of these events.
24:35 Doug: Yeah.
24:37 And then, of course, these things are going to happen again
24:38 in quick succession at the Second Coming because, one thing
24:42 that hasn't happened, it also says in the heavens will depart
24:45 as a scroll and then they will see the sign of the Son of Man.
24:48 So, not only did these things happen historically to kind of
24:51 wake people up and tell us we're marching to the end, and, keep
24:55 in mind, you know, a day with the Lord is like 1000 years.
24:57 You look at the scope of Bible history, and it moves, you know,
25:01 slowly for our lives.
25:03 But, historically, we're nearing the end, but they're going to
25:07 happen in quick succession right at the end of time also.
25:11 Jëan: Okay, thank you, Robert.
25:12 We've got Will listening in Canada; Will, welcome to
25:14 the program.
25:17 Will: Good evening, pastors.
25:19 Doug: Evening.
25:20 Will: So my question is in first 1 Samuel chapter 10, verse 10;
25:25 does prophecy have a different meaning in this context?
25:29 Doug: Well, let me read this for our friends.
25:31 First, you said 1 Samuel 10, verse 10?
25:34 It says, "When they came to the hill, there was a group of
25:36 prophets to meet him, and the Spirit of God came upon him, and
25:39 he prophesied among them."
25:42 Well, the word prophesy there, it means he preached, the Spirit
25:46 of God came over him, and he began to testify and preach and
25:50 talk about the glory of God and praise God.
25:53 And you see that happening in 1 Corinthians 14, Paul said
25:59 it's better to prophesy than speak in tongues.
26:02 And it says that the evangelist Philip had four daughters, which
26:06 did prophesy.
26:08 They didn't walk around fortelling the future.
26:11 That means he had four daughters that also taught; they may have
26:13 taught other women, but he had four daughters that were also
26:16 involved in a teaching ministry.
26:19 And so prophecy didn't mean, you know, Elijah was a prophet, but
26:23 he didn't spend all his time talking about the future.
26:25 Neither did John the Baptist.
26:27 He said, "Repent."
26:29 And so that's probably the kind of prophecy Saul, who had been a
26:32 king, a Benjamite, Spirit of the Lord comes on him, and he begins
26:37 to prophesy, which is something that the priests and the sons of
26:40 the prophets normally did.
26:42 Does that help answer that question?
26:44 Will: Yeah, thank you.
26:46 Jëan Ross: All right.
26:47 Hey, thanks so much.
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30:33 Jëan: My name is John Ross, and we have Ian listening from--
30:37 no, actually it's Ivan, I think, from Mexico.
30:40 Let's see. I don't know.
30:41 Are you there? Ivan: Good evening, pastors.
30:43 Doug: Evening. Ivan: Yes.
30:44 Good evening, pastors.
30:46 How are you doing? Thank you for taking my call.
30:47 Doug: Good, thanks for calling. Ivan: I have a question.
30:50 I wanted to, I had a question in regards to
30:56 the deliverance of evil spirits.
30:57 How do we go about getting delivered by, from those things?
30:59 Doug: Yeah, well, the--of course, Jesus casts out spirits,
31:04 and, so, by turning to the Lord and asking for deliverance.
31:07 It helps if you go to Christian friends, you know, I mean, if
31:12 you're the person you're talking about, you might be thinking
31:14 about someone else.
31:15 You go to Christian friends, and you can gather and pray.
31:19 Now, if the person that is tormented, they may choose to
31:22 come themself, like the demoniac in Mark chapter 5; he came to
31:26 Jesus; Jesus cast out the evil spirits.
31:28 Turn your life over to Him through the proclamation of the
31:31 Word--Jesus basically sets us free--and through prayer.
31:38 And so, you know, sometimes the disciples would pray over
31:41 somebody, and the the evil spirits would leave them.
31:45 And, you know, it might be a battle that goes on for a while.
31:48 Even Jesus, it says He cast seven devils out of
31:51 Mary Magdalene.
31:53 And it seems to indicate that seven times she kind of
31:55 slid back.
31:56 So it's coming through the turning to the Lord, through the
32:04 reading and the proclamation of the Word, and through prayer.
32:08 Jëan: And, if there is something in your life that you know is
32:11 out of harmony with the will of God, maybe there's movies or
32:14 books, talking about the occult, or maybe, you know, there's
32:17 things in your house that should not be there that gives a
32:19 foothold to the devil, to an evil spirit.
32:21 We want to get rid of that as well.
32:23 So do everything we can do in our power.
32:25 But, ultimately, deliverance does come through prayer.
32:28 And, like Pastor Doug says, the Bible says, where two or three
32:31 are gathered together in my name, that's where I will be.
32:33 So, get Godly friends or church members, and unite in prayer,
32:37 and ask God to do something that, you know, you can't do
32:40 for yourself.
32:42 Doug: That's right.
32:43 Jëan: Okay, thank you.
32:44 Next caller that we have is Rebecca.
32:46 Rebecca is listening in Washington.
32:47 Rebecca, welcome to the program.
32:50 Rebecca: Hi.
32:51 Thank you so much, pastors.
32:52 I appreciate being here.
32:54 Doug: Yes, how can we help you?
32:57 Rebecca: Hi, Pastor Doug.
32:59 I sent you The Ice Maiden's Kiss.
33:01 Thank you for sending me that devotional.
33:03 Doug: Oh, ok, thank you.
33:05 Good, good, I remember that.
33:07 Rebecca: Yeah, yeah, and I just wanted to ask about, in
33:11 Proverbs, there's a lot of references to wisdom as "she"
33:17 and "her," and I've been asked by other people, you know, not
33:21 believers, why that is, and if Solomon is referencing the
33:26 Holy Spirit?
33:28 And, if so, why would he be referencing as "she" and "her?"
33:33 Proverbs 4, 5 through 9, and then again down in 13.
33:38 Doug: Well, he does both.
33:39 So you're right, in Proverbs 4 and in 5, it says, you know,
33:45 "wisdom cries out."
33:47 But you go to Proverbs chapter 8, and here it not only says,
33:51 "She cries out by the gates," but then you get down a little
33:55 later, and it says, "He was with me in the beginning of
33:57 His ways."
33:59 And so I think the reason it's going back and forth is because
34:03 it's trying to talk about a love relationship, that we are to
34:06 love wisdom.
34:08 And so it kind of compares it to a marriage, you want to be
34:11 married to it.
34:13 Jëan: And things that are of great value, talks about wisdom
34:15 is better than rubies, better than gold, talks about, you
34:19 know, this wisdom is described as a woman or it's described as
34:23 a wise man.
34:24 So there's different phrases that's used, different symbols
34:27 that's used to illustrate the importance of wisdom, which
34:30 ultimately comes through the Holy Spirit.
34:33 Doug: Yep.
34:34 Yeah, I'm also looking again in Proverbs 8, it says, "I wisdom
34:39 dwell with prudence, and the counselor's mind, by me
34:43 kings reign."
34:45 So, you know, I think Solomon probably is drawing on every
34:49 beautiful analogy he can think of in talking about wisdom as
34:53 something precious.
34:54 Jëan: Okay, thank you.
34:56 We've got Guy listening in Arizona.
34:57 Guy, welcome to the program.
34:58 Guy: Thank you for taking my call.
35:00 I appreciate it.
35:01 Doug: Yes, sir.
35:03 Guy: Years ago when I got out of the military, I was going to
35:05 college and met a young lady from Tehran, Iran.
35:08 We got married, and she bore me three children, one boy and then
35:13 a set of twin boys.
35:15 And, all through our relationship, we
35:18 weren't compatible.
35:19 I slept in another bedroom.
35:20 She wouldn't she wouldn't have nothing to do with me.
35:24 And then she worked for her brother in a bar.
35:26 So we got separated, and I was upset.
35:29 And then I learned that, I got a call that she had sent my
35:33 children, took my children to Tehran, Iran.
35:37 I was outraged, and I cursed out the Holy Spirit.
35:40 Since then I've repented, and I've asked for forgiveness for
35:43 that stupid action because I was outraged.
35:46 And, I'm wondering, have I been forgiven?
35:49 Doug: Okay, so you got very upset, and you verbally cursed
35:54 against the Holy Spirit.
35:56 And you wonder if, if you repent of that, can you be forgiven?
35:59 Yes, that is not blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
36:02 There are people who are in a stage of grief where they have
36:06 a great deal of anger.
36:07 Maybe they've lost a loved one, and they say very
36:11 reckless things.
36:12 It sounds like you were going through a personal crisis.
36:15 And, then, you know, they weren't really in their right
36:18 minds; they're very angry.
36:21 Sometimes the devil gets a hold of us, and we say things we
36:23 should never say.
36:25 Can God forgive you?
36:26 If you sincerely repent, He will absolutely forgive you.
36:29 Jëan: You know, we have a book, Pastor Doug; it's called, "What
36:31 is the Unpardonable Sin?"
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36:38 blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
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36:54 We've got Jason listening in Washington.
36:56 Jason, welcome to the program.
36:59 Jason: Hi, thank you.
37:00 My question is, is it ever okay to threaten someone with
37:04 violence if they're doing something like insulting your
37:10 mother or wife or, and this would be a man doing it, or
37:14 they're contacting them when they've asked them not to?
37:19 Doug: No, I don't think it's ever--Now, I want to make
37:22 a distinction here.
37:23 If you or your family are physically threatened, you might
37:26 need to do something physical to protect them.
37:29 But, even if someone--you know, Jesus said, if someone just gets
37:32 angry and strikes you on the right cheek, you can offer him
37:34 the other.
37:35 Now, He's not talking about a boxing match; He's saying
37:37 someone gets mad and swings at you.
37:39 But, because of words spoken, I don't think Christians should
37:43 react with violence on any occasion.
37:45 You look at how Jesus, He got buffeted, and He bore
37:51 it patiently.
37:54 You know, people are going to mock you.
37:56 Jesus said, pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute
37:59 you, love your enemies, overcome evil with good.
38:02 He doesn't want us to overcome evil with evil.
38:05 And so, no, I don't think you should resort to violence when
38:07 someone says something rude or unkind or even insulting.
38:11 Jëan: That's right.
38:13 All right, very good, thank you.
38:14 We've got Tee listening in Virginia.
38:15 Tee, welcome to the program.
38:18 Tee: Thank you, and good evening.
38:20 And just really quickly, you all, your ministry is amazing,
38:25 and I thank God for you all every single day.
38:28 Doug: Oh, well, thank you.
38:30 Tee: You're welcome.
38:31 My question is, is it adultery for Christians to do the sign of
38:38 the cross?
38:40 Doug: Yeah, we know that, a lot of our Catholic brethren, there
38:44 may be some other churches that you'll see them cross themselves
38:47 at the end of a prayer or, you know, at some moment of crisis.
38:53 And there's nothing in the Bible that tells us to do that.
38:58 That is something that I think kind of grew out of
39:00 a pagan tradition.
39:04 You know, I don't think we ought to be doing it as Christians
39:08 because there's so many pagan trappings to those things, and I
39:13 don't know, Pastor Ross, I can't think of any Bible example of a
39:16 person making a physical sign of the cross or going through any
39:20 kind of spiritual gesture or signs--
39:21 Jëan: Yeah, we have no record of any
39:23 of that until, like you say, the middle ages
39:25 where some pagan ideas began to make its way into Christianity,
39:30 and some of these remnants of doing certain things or saying
39:33 certain prayers, that was introduced into the church.
39:37 And I think that's where making the sign of the cross came from
39:39 as well.
39:41 Doug: And you get into some of the secret societies, and they
39:42 give special secret hand gestures and things.
39:45 I can't think of an example.
39:47 I mean, the only thing in the Bible, it says they lifted their
39:48 hands in prayer.
39:50 Jëan: Yep, and you know, there are examples in the Bible where
39:52 they bowed in prayer, and they closed their eyes in prayer,
39:55 and, you know, that would be Biblical, but making a sign of
39:58 the cross prior to praying or ending, that's not Biblical.
40:02 Doug: Anyway, thank you, appreciate that, Tee, and thanks
40:04 for the encouragement.
40:06 Jëan: We've got Steve listening in Oregon.
40:08 Steve, welcome to the program.
40:10 Steve: Hello.
40:12 Thank you so much for taking my call.
40:14 Say, when did the Bible get divided into verses, and
40:20 punctuation was added, and by who, like, which institution?
40:27 Do you recommended one of your Amazing Facts publications
40:31 or website?
40:33 Doug: I don't think they happened at the same time.
40:35 I think that the division of chapters and verses was
40:39 a separate event to when the translators went through and
40:42 added English punctuation.
40:44 Now you realize of course, punctuation in different
40:47 languages is all going to be different.
40:49 So, because Greek had no punctuation, they had to decide
40:53 where you would put the comma and the period.
40:56 Hebrew had a different kind of punctuation, that their whole
40:59 structure was different.
41:01 They actually read from right to left.
41:03 So the translation of the two, from Greek and from Hebrew, was
41:07 different and happened at different times.
41:09 The Hebrew Old Testament was translated to English before.
41:13 I believe that, Wycliffe got to the New Testament.
41:16 And I don't know if he was one of the first ones to add
41:20 punctuation coming from-- Jëan: Yes, somewhat.
41:23 But, as far as the most known, I guess punctuation wasn't until
41:27 the 1550s, just before the printing of the Geneva Bible,
41:31 which was in 1560.
41:32 And that's when more punctuation was added.
41:34 And I think it was at that point as well where they began to
41:37 clarify different passages with verses so they would be easier
41:40 for people to find if they're reading it together.
41:42 So it really took hold when the printing press began to print
41:46 and people were translating more and more stuff into English.
41:50 Doug: There you have it.
41:51 I hope that helps a little.
41:53 Jëan: You know, we do the book.
41:54 it's called "The Ultimate Resource," and it's all about
41:56 the Bible, and it'll give you a lot more information about the
41:58 history of the Bible, how to study the Bible.
42:00 The number to call for that is 80o-835-6747, and just ask for
42:05 that book, it's called "The Ultimate Resource."
42:08 Next caller that we have is Steve, listening in Canada.
42:11 Steve, welcome to Bible Answers Live.
42:15 Steve: Hello.
42:17 Doug: Hi.
42:18 How can I help?
42:19 Yes, you're on.
42:21 Steve: Good evening.
42:22 My question.
42:23 Well, I'm somewhat confused as to the author of the Book of
42:28 Romans because, in Romans, 16, verse 22, it says--because
42:36 I always thought that Paul wrote Romans.
42:39 But, in Romans 16, verse 22, says, "I, Tertius, who wrote
42:46 this epistle, greet you in the Lord."
42:49 Doug: Mm-hm.
42:50 Well, yeah, Tertius was the scribe, but the dictation and
42:55 the message is coming directly from Paul because, you go into
42:59 the first--Paul had problems with his eyes, evidently.
43:02 He talks about a thorn in his side.
43:04 And, of course, he was struck blind when he first saw
43:06 the Lord.
43:07 But you look in the first verse in the book of Romans, says,
43:10 "Paul, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, called to be an
43:12 apostle, separated..."
43:13 So it's a message from Paul.
43:16 Paul was, I think he was in jail a lot of the time, and he also
43:20 dictated things to scribes.
43:23 Sometimes Paul would dictate a letter, and he'd say, "I'm
43:25 signing this in my own hand."
43:28 So it would be, he would authorize it.
43:30 And he said, you know, "Behold with what large characters
43:33 I'm writing."
43:34 He wrote very big.
43:35 Paul, when he was being tried by the high priest, he called him
43:39 a whited wall.
43:40 And the guard said, "You're going to say that to the
43:43 high priest?"
43:44 And he's squinting and going, "I didn't know it was
43:45 the high priest."
43:47 He couldn't see.
43:48 So I think that It's just telling us that Tertius was the
43:54 scribe, secretary who wrote it out, and he sends a little
43:57 greeting at the end in his own hand.
44:00 Jëan: All right, thank you, Steve.
44:01 Again, you might like that book called, "The Ultimate Resource,"
44:03 talks about the Bible, number to call for that is 800-835-6747.
44:09 Jennifer is listening in New York.
44:10 Jennifer.
44:11 Welcome to Bible Answers live.
44:13 Jennifer: Thank you.
44:14 Good evening.
44:15 And God bless you, pastors.
44:17 Doug: Thank you.
44:18 Jennifer: In Genesis 19, we read there where Lot was
44:21 in Sodom, and the angels came to him.
44:25 He said they wanted to rape the guys, the angels, and Lot said
44:32 he will send out two of his, his two daughters who knew no man,
44:35 they were virgins.
44:37 But, in verse 14, we really read where Lot went out to speak to
44:41 his sons-in-laws who were married to his daughters.
44:47 So my question is, if they were married, how could they be,
44:51 could have been virgins at the time?
44:53 Doug: Lot evidently had other daughters.
44:56 Some of them were married.
44:58 It doesn't tell us if it was two or three.
45:00 It uses the plural.
45:01 So he had other daughters that were married.
45:04 And it's interesting that, just the contrast between Lot and
45:10 Noah, I don't know if you've ever done that.
45:12 Noah had sons, and he saved his family.
45:15 Lot had daughters, and they got, they married off.
45:19 And Noah separated and stayed with the Lord, and Lot went down
45:22 to the wrong city.
45:23 And just an interesting contrast.
45:25 But, yeah, it's just basically talking about the daughters that
45:30 were married, and the two youngest that were not married
45:32 were virgins.
45:34 Jëan: And the ones who were married, apparently, they
45:35 were destroyed.
45:37 His wife and his two daughters that were
45:39 taken out.
45:40 Doug: It specifically mentions his sons-in-law, that mocked,
45:44 they thought he was mocking.
45:46 Jëan: All right, thank you, Jennifer.
45:48 We've got Kimberly in Nevada.
45:50 Kimberly.
45:51 Welcome to the program.
45:52 Kimberly: Hello.
45:54 Doug: Hi.
45:55 Kimberly: Hi.
45:56 My question is also from Genesis.
45:58 First of all, thank you for taking my call.
45:59 But, so, in chapter 15, verses 9 and 10, when Abraham is making
46:06 the covenant, and it talks about the ram, the heifer, and the
46:11 birds, my question is, what is the significance of the birds,
46:15 and why were the birds not split in half?
46:18 Doug: Yeah, well, typically the larger offerings were dissected.
46:23 The birds were so small that, you know, when, sometimes when
46:29 they butchered the bigger animals, they would divide it
46:31 up, and they would dissect them like that.
46:33 The birds were so small, it was like one per person.
46:36 They just, they didn't divide them up.
46:39 And so I think that's the main reason, and, even when they were
46:43 drying meat, sometimes they dried in the sun, you know,
46:46 bigger sections.
46:48 It takes longer to dry; they split it up so it'll dry
46:50 more quickly.
46:52 A little bird, you could just hang it up, and it would dry,
46:53 just salt it like the fish.
46:56 So, yeah, they didn't divide them.
46:57 But they took the offerings from the poorest, is what the birds
47:01 offered, to the richest, which would have been the heifer, and
47:05 a goat kind of in between.
47:07 Jëan: Okay, thank you.
47:09 We've got Chris listening in Alabama.
47:11 Chris. Welcome to the program.
47:13 Chris: Yes, thank you.
47:15 I just want to get right straight to it.
47:17 The Jacob married the two sisters.
47:22 Has anybody ever thought that they might have been twins?
47:25 No, because Laban, well, someone may have thought it, but Laban
47:29 specifically says, we never marry the younger before
47:33 the older.
47:34 It always talks about Rachel being younger, and Leah being
47:39 older, never says they were twins.
47:40 I think it would have mentioned that, especially since it does
47:42 mention that Jacob was a twin, and Perez and Zerah were twins.
47:47 But, yeah, I think that there, it delineates that Rachel was
47:53 the younger.
47:55 Jëan: All right, thank you, Chris.
47:56 We've got Greg in California.
47:57 Greg, welcome to Bible Answers Live.
48:01 Greg: Good evening, pastors.
48:03 Thank you for taking my call.
48:04 Doug: Yes.
48:06 Greg: Are you born of the Spirit at the moment you
48:07 accept Christ as your Savior, and, if not, when are you born
48:10 of the Spirit?
48:11 Doug: Yeah.
48:12 Well, I think, definitely, when you accept Jesus.
48:14 it's usually the Holy Spirit working in your heart that leads
48:17 you to repentance.
48:18 So the Spirit is working in your heart to just even bring you to
48:21 the point of repentance and turning to God.
48:24 And, when you turn and give your life to the Lord, I think the
48:27 Holy Spirit begins working in your heart.
48:30 Definitely at baptism because then you surrendered and obeyed,
48:36 and you've made that commitment because it says, repent, be
48:39 baptized, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
48:43 And even Jesus, at His baptism, He came out of the water.
48:46 But you've got Cornelius in Acts chapter 10, he's baptized with
48:50 the Holy Spirit before he's baptized with water.
48:53 So you can definitely have the Holy Spirit.
48:55 And I think most people are born again before they ever get
48:58 baptized in the Spirit.
48:59 That's what leads them to repent and to become, have a new heart.
49:04 So, what do you think, Pastor Ross?
49:05 Jëan: Absolutely.
49:06 You know, Jesus said, It's like the blowing of the wind.
49:08 You might not be able to give a specific moment, but it's the
49:11 Holy Spirit that works.
49:12 The Bible says, It's the goodness of God that leads us to
49:14 repentance, repentance to be born of the Holy Spirit.
49:18 You know, we might not always be able to point to an
49:20 exact moment.
49:21 Some people can, very dramatic conversion experience, but, for
49:24 others, it's a gradual drawing to the Lord.
49:28 Alright, thank you.
49:29 Next caller that we have is Robert in Michigan.
49:31 Robert. Welcome to Bible Answers Live.
49:34 Robert: Thank you for taking my call.
49:36 My question involves two verses in the Bible.
49:39 Matthew 12:36 where it says, "But every idle word that men
49:44 shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day
49:47 of judgment."
49:48 And then another verse is in Romans 14:10, where it says,
49:52 "For we all shall stand before the judgment seat of Christ."
49:57 And so I wonder how literal this is?
50:00 And, in that context, if it is literal, when will the redeemed
50:05 person ever give account for anything?
50:08 Because aren't they covered by Jesus?
50:10 Doug: The Bible says that all are judged, and that means
50:13 everybody, and, even the redeemed, they're being judged
50:17 to show, were they redeemed?
50:19 You know, did they surrender their lives to the Lord?
50:22 Did they have the fruits of the Spirit?
50:24 Did they, you know, follow up on their commitment?
50:27 Now keep in mind for our friends listening.
50:30 Jesus said that you'll give an account in the judgment for
50:32 every idle word you spoke.
50:33 For one thing, that means we need to be careful of what
50:36 we say.
50:38 But everybody here is doomed, if there's no mercy, because
50:42 everybody has said things they shouldn't say.
50:45 So we have to trust in the Lord's mercy or nobody's going
50:49 to have any hope.
50:50 And Paul is just warning us that there is a day where everybody
50:54 gives an account.
50:55 Now, for those that have repented and turned from their
50:57 sins, we are covered, and we are under the blood of Jesus, and we
51:01 are pardoned by His grace.
51:04 Otherwise, we may as well just turn off the electricity right
51:07 now and go home.
51:08 This program would be useless.
51:10 It's only God's grace that gives us any hope.
51:12 Jëan: You know, there's a verse that we read in 1 Timothy
51:14 chapter 5, verse 24 where, Paul says, "Some men's sins are
51:18 clearly evident, preceding them to judgment.
51:20 But those of some men follow later."
51:23 Meaning that, if we confess our sins, yes, they precede us to
51:26 judgment, but those sins are blotted out.
51:29 Our names are retained in the Lamb's Book of Life.
51:31 But, if we get it to the judgment and we haven't
51:34 confessed our sins, our sins follow us, so to speak, and our
51:37 names end up getting blotted out of the Lamb's Book of Life.
51:40 So you want to send your sins beforehand to the judgment, that
51:43 they can be blotted out.
51:45 Doug: Good point, great verse.
51:46 Jëan: Okay. Thank you.
51:49 Next caller that we have is Neil, listening in California,
51:51 or Nell.
51:52 Nell, welcome to the program.
51:54 Nell: Hi, thank you for taking my call.
51:57 I have a question.
51:58 Should Christians invest in like say like the S&P 500 considering
52:03 that there might be companies in there that, you know, provide
52:08 items that Christians would not take part of?
52:12 How should a Christian invest?
52:14 Doug: Yeah, that is a good question.
52:17 You know, at some point, every Christian needs to realize that,
52:21 you may invest in a bank.
52:25 When you put your money in a bank, you are basically
52:27 investing in the bank because they take your money.
52:29 They don't sit on it in a safe somewhere.
52:32 They take your money, and they invest in a broad spectrum
52:35 of stocks.
52:36 You're not responsible for that.
52:38 You're just, you know, putting your money in the bank, and even
52:40 Jesus recommends that.
52:41 For example, I don't want to support a tobacco or alcohol
52:46 industry, but, let's face it, every time you go to Walmart or
52:50 any supermarket, they sell these things that a Christian
52:53 shouldn't use.
52:55 Well, I can't let that, I can't torture my conscience because of
53:00 everything that a supermarket might sell.
53:02 I'd never find a supermarket to shop at.
53:04 And so, when you make an investment, if you buy a mutual
53:07 fund, fortunately, now there are some where you could say, I
53:10 want to buy they call them, the, a sin free or an ethical fund.
53:16 There are some funds that do not invest in the entertainment or
53:19 the tobacco companies, but I wouldn't say that a person
53:23 should feel concerned about investing in like the NASDAQ or
53:27 the S&P.
53:28 That's just a broad, it's like having your money in a bank.
53:30 It's kind of a broad fund.
53:31 I don't think we should speculate or gamble.
53:34 Some people are trading every day; it's almost like gambling.
53:37 But the Lord tells us that we should be wise in
53:40 our investment.
53:42 Don't bury our talent.
53:43 Otherwise he's going to say we're lazy servants, said you
53:46 should have at least put it in the bank so I'd get my interest.
53:49 I hope that makes some sense, Nell.
53:50 Thank you.
53:52 Yeah, we're surrounded as Christians with these moral
53:54 dilemmas all the time, Pastor Ross, where we've got to just
53:57 pray that God gives us wisdom.
53:58 We make good judgment.
53:59 But we also have to be able to negotiate our way through
54:02 this world.
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55:46 Pastor Doug, Glenda is asking, why did God say that eating
55:49 swine's flesh is an abomination?
55:51 Is it spiritual or symbolic?
55:54 Doug: Well, both.
55:55 For one thing, pigs are scavengers, and our bodies are
56:00 the temple of the Holy Spirit.
56:02 You never brought an unclean animal into the temple.
56:05 Secondarily, it, so there's a command that they are unclean as
56:09 food as well.
56:11 Because they are scavengers, it was never God's plan for us to
56:14 eat any meat.
56:15 A man was made to be a vegetarian in the Garden
56:17 of Eden.
56:18 And he finally said, "Look, if you're going to eat meat, they
56:20 must be classified in the clean category."
56:24 And pigs are called pigs because they're pigs.
56:26 They're an abomination.
56:27 You shouldn't eat them.
56:29 They might make nice pets, like dogs, but don't eat dogs either.
56:32 Jëan: All right, Cathy is asking, can you please explain
56:35 what it means in the Bible when it refers to Jesus as the son
56:38 of David?
56:39 Isn't He the son of God?
56:41 Doug: Yeah.
56:42 Well, He's both.
56:43 Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, but He also, His mother
56:45 was a human, and both Mary and Joseph came from the line
56:49 of David.
56:51 God made a promise to David in, I think it's 1 Chronicles
56:53 chapter 17, that through his descendants, the Messiah would
56:57 come, the Savior would be a son of David.
57:00 And every Jew knew that; when Jesus came, they called him the
57:03 son of David.
57:04 They were basically saying, "You're the Messiah."
57:06 Jëan: All right.
57:07 Diane is asking, what does it mean to be absent from the body
57:09 and to be present with the Lord?
57:11 Doug: Yeah.
57:12 And that's coming to us from 1 Corinthians, is a chapter 5, and
57:15 you can start with verse 6, "So we are always confident, knowing
57:18 that while we're at home in the body, we're absent from
57:21 the Lord.
57:22 For we walk by faith and not by sight.
57:23 We're confident.
57:25 Yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and present
57:28 with the Lord."
57:29 Well, when a believer dies, their next conscious thought is
57:32 the resurrection, and they'll be in the presence of the Lord.
57:35 But, until the resurrection, like Lazarus, Jesus said,
57:38 "He's asleep."
57:40 We sleep a dreamless sleep.
57:41 For our loved ones that die, we can be praising God for their
57:44 benefit because we know their next conscious thought is
57:47 a resurrection.
57:49 But it hasn't happened.
57:50 Paul is also doing a, what you call, like a double entendre
57:53 here in that he's saying, "If you live in the Spirit, and
57:57 you're absent from the body, the flesh, you're walking with
58:00 the Lord."
58:01 So he's also doing a play on words here as well.
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