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Doug Batchelor:
Hello, listening friends.
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Would you like to hear an
amazing fact about cloves?
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Cloves are a basic spice that
you can buy in any supermarket
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for about $3, and they're
used to spice up cookies,
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cakes, and even
flavor Worcestershire sauce.
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But these dried
flower buds have,
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quite literally,
altered the course of history.
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Cloves are more
than just a flavoring.
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They contain a good mix of
vitamins and minerals and have
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some medicinal properties
as a natural painkiller
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or to settle a stomach.
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But in the 16th century, cloves
were thought to be the cure for
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almost everything and used to
treat a wide range of ailments,
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including
intestinal distress, impotence,
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diarrhea, vomiting, and cholera.
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In fact, cloves were so
precious, they were literally
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worth more than
their weight in gold.
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At one time, the only place
in the world that you could get
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cloves was in the Maluku
Islands off of Indonesia.
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Wars were fought, nations
were formed, and thousands
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perished in an effort
to control the spice trade.
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It was in pursuit of a shorter
route to these spice islands
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that the fleet of Ferdinand
Magellan became the first
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expedition to
circumnavigate the Earth.
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In 1519, Magellan
set out with 5 ships,
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carrying about 270 men,
heading for the Malukus.
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Three years later, only one
leaking ship came limping home
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with 18 starving crew members.
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Incredibly, the voyage
still made money because of the
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fantastic value of the few
cloves they brought with them.
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It's hard to imagine people
willing to die for an herb in
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your spice cabinet.
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You might be surprised to know
the Bible says that a few words
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of scripture are worth
much more than cloves or gold.
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Pastor Ross, makes me think
about those verses in the Bible
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and this is just a sampling of
a few: Psalms 119: "The law of
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Your mouth is better to
me than thousands of coins
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of gold and silver."
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Or you look in Proverbs 8,
verse 8 through 10: "Receive My
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instruction, and not silver,
And knowledge rather that choice
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gold; For wisdom
is better than rubies,
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And all the things
that one might desire cannot
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be compared with her."
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And then, of course,
you get the, what is it,
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Psalm 19: "The law of
the Lord is sweeter than
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honey in the honeycomb,
more desired are they than
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gold, much fine gold."
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And so, yeah, it's
kind of incredible.
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I've been reading history
and I think you and I have been
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sharing some of these history
books of how people would fight
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and die for these
herbs that we just kind of
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sprinkle on our food.
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And in fact,
during the Roman era,
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they paid people with salt.
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That's where we
get the word "salary."
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But the Word of
God is worth more than
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silver, gold, or
any of those things.
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Jëan Ross: Absolutely,
you know, the--talking about
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these herbs and cloves and
how they felt that it preserved,
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you know, your physical
life, but the Word of God
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preserves your spiritual life.
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So it is more valuable.
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It lasts not just for
this life, but in eternity.
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caller, let's start with prayer.
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Dear Father, we are grateful
that we have this time to be
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able to open up
Your Word and, indeed,
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that is
precious, it is powerful.
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It's more valuable than anything
that we have here on this earth
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for it is the word of life.
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And so we ask Your
blessing as we study together.
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Be with those who are listening.
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Lead us into a clearer
understanding of Your Word,
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for we ask this in
Jesus's name, amen.
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Doug: Amen.
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Jëan: Our first caller
this evening, we've got Sharon
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in Oregon; Sharon,
welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
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Sharon: Good
morning, or good evening.
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Doug: Evening.
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Sharon: I have a question
on Revelation chapter 11,
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and I understand that the two
witnesses are the Old and New
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Testament but, when it
gets to verse 11 through 14,
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it doesn't sound like it's
talking about the same thing,
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when they stand on their
feet and then God calls them to
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heaven, they ascend in a cloud.
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Can you explain that part?
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Doug: Yeah, the whole passage
here about the two witnesses,
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and I think it
is a united passage,
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when it says they
finished their testimony,
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now some have described it as
the New and the Old Testament or
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you might say the law and the
prophets because you have these
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two witnesses that
appear to Jesus on the Mount of
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Transfiguration,
Moses and Elijah.
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They represent the Word of God.
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Moses, the great law-giver,
Elijah, the great prophet.
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Last words of the Old Testament
are: "Remember the law of Moses.
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Behold I send you
Elijah the prophet."
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And this is an
attack on the Word of God,
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which is dual in nature.
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New and Old
Testament, Ten Commandments have
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two tables of stone.
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And so, it's a
sword with two edges.
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And so, then it says that when
they finished their testimony,
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the beast that ascends
out of the bottomless pit
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will make war on them.
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But you're
wondering about, in verse 11,
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where it says: "After
three-and-a-half days the breath
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of life enters them, and
they stood on their feet."
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The Word of God,
well, it's talking about,
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kind of, resurrected,
stands back up again.
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They've been dead,
and it says 3 1/2 days.
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A day is like a year.
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This is talking about an attack
on the Word of God and the
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religion of Christ during
the French Revolution where they
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basically--they even went from
a 7-day week to a 10-day week
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because they said that the only
place you can trace a 7-day week
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to is the Bible.
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And Bibles were burned
and there was a big outcry.
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France, basically,
became the first atheist nation.
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And--but after
the reign of terror,
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3 1/2 years later, things
had just so imploded that they
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sheepishly re-allowed the Bible
to come back into the country.
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And Napoleon, kind of
the good and bad of Napoleon,
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one of the things is he did then
allow freedom of religion, where
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before, the Christians
were terribly persecuted.
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Jëan: Mm-hmm, that 3 1/2-year
period has been described as
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November 10, 1793, that's when
they passed the decree in the
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French Assembly,
outlawing the Bible,
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and the Bibles were piled
up and burnt in the street.
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But exactly 3 1/2
years later, June 17,
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1798, they
overturned that decree.
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They reversed the decree,
allowing the Word of God and
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freedom in the Word of God.
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You know, it's also
interesting, Pastor Doug,
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that Voltaire, one of these
famous atheistic authors who
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scoffed at the Bible, he
made a statement and said,
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you know,
within this generation,
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the Bible would
be an extinct book,
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nobody would even
pay any attention to it.
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And you know, he
published his writings and he
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had a printing press.
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The amazing thing
is that just, you know,
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decades later, not very long
later, the Bible Society ended
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up being set up, and they
used the very printing press
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that Voltaire used to
propagate his atheistic views.
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His same printing press
was used to print the Bible.
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So, indeed the Word of God
was lifted up and magnified.
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And of course, this brings you
into the early 1800s where there
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was a great revival,
and Bible truth missionaries
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were sent around the world.
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The Bible was being translated
in all kinds of languages.
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Thus, it was lifted up and--
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Doug: Glorified,
caught up to heaven.
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Jëan: You know, we
have a book called,
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"The Ultimate Resource,"
and it's all about the Bible.
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And you might
enjoy this, Sharon,
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or anyone who is
watching or listening.
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Just, again, the number
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You can ask for that book.
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Let's go to Ryan in New Mexico.
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Ryan, you're on the air.
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Ryan: Oh, it's so nice
to actually hear you guys.
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You're awesome.
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My question is: Did Jesus
use two different calendars, the
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Julian calendar
and the moon--you know,
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I just--I see a lot, you
know, from the scriptures,
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I see more evidence as far
as it being the New Moon Day,
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you know, as far as, you
know, when they started their 6
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working days, but then
there was a New Moon Day, you
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know, does that make sense?
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I guess, did Jesus use the two
calendar--different calendars?
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I'm sorry.
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Doug: No, I think I
understand what you're saying.
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Is--and just for our
friends who are listening,
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the Jews did use
a lunar calendar.
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Their months were
controlled by the moon.
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But the weekly Sabbath,
which came every 7 days,
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was a completely
distinct cycle of time.
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Sometimes, we look at a calendar
which registers both the month
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and the week and we
think that they're conjoined.
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They're not, it's just one piece
of paper that's showing us two
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distinct cycles of time.
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The 7-day week dates
back to Adam, you know,
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and God rested on the 7th
day and he blessed the 7th day.
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And every 7th day
those that follow God,
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they kept
honoring that as a Sabbath.
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God reinstituted that for
the children of Israel when they
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came back out of Egypt.
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Even before they got to
Mount Sinai, God told them,
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"I'm going to give you
bread from heaven 6 days a week.
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Seventh day, there'll be none.
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Gather twice as
much on," what we would
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call Friday, "the 6th day."
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And so, that cycle has been
in continuity from the time of
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Creation to the present day.
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It is true the Jews had
a calendar with 360 days,
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but the New Moon would fall
on different days of the week,
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all throughout the year.
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It had nothing to
do with a weekly cycle.
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So, just keep the two
separate in your mind,
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there's no problem.
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Jëan: And of
course, the lunar month,
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as you mentioned, that was used
for some of the ceremonial days
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'cause they'd start counting
and then there were certain
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ceremonial days that fell
on certain times of the week,
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could be on different days.
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That was considered a Sabbath.
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In other words, they would often
keep those ceremonial days as
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the Sabbath, but
that was always distinct
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from the 7th day Sabbath.
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Doug: Right, and every now
and then when you had a lunar
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Sabbath land on
the weekly Sabbath,
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they called it a high Sabbath.
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Or if you had a--an
annual feast Sabbath,
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like the Passover, tells us
in the Bible when it fell on the
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Sabbath Day, they
called it a high Sabbath.
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But they're two
distinct cycles of time.
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Just like your
birthday might be on a different
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day of the week every year.
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Jëan: Right, all right, well,
thanks for your call, Ryan.
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We've got James in Texas.
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James, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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James: Yes, good
evening, Pastors.
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Doug: Hi, evening.
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James: Yes, my question
for the night will be: "Has the
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latter rain happened because of
so many predictions by pastors,
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'cause I've been--I've watched
them on YouTube and stuff like
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that, and everybody's all
talking about 'em on--they've
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already seen visions
and stuff like that."
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Doug: Yeah, no, I don't think
the latter rain--and let me just
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explain for those listening
what we're talking about.
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The Jews in their agriculture,
their farming language,
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they would have one rain that
would come to sprout the seed.
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They called that the
former or the first rain.
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Then before the
harvest they would have a
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latter or last rain.
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That would then
ripen the crop for harvest.
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Those terms are used for
the outpouring of the Spirit.
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When Christ came, He told the
disciples to wait in Jerusalem
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and He said, "You'll receive
that refreshing," and the power
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of the Holy Spirit fell
on them during Pentecost,
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that is the former rain.
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Before Christ comes,
there's promises that you read,
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both in the book of
Joel and in the book of Acts,
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that God is going to pour
out His Spirit on all flesh.
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And so, the question
is has that happened yet?
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I do not think so because we've
not seen the evidence of the
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Spirit and the power
and the gospel spreading--
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and mostly the holiness.
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I think that's one of the real
signs you'll have is there'll be
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just a real love and a
holiness among God's people,
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and the power of
miracles, I mean,
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real miracles, that
we just have not seen.
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So a lot of
people are saying, "Oh,
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I had a vision," and a
lot of pastors are saying,
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"Oh, this is the
outpouring of the Spirit."
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I don't think we've seen
anything like Pentecost yet.
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I think it's going to
be evident when it happens.
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Jëan: You know, we have
a verse, Zechariah chapter
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10, verse 1, that
says: "Ask the LORD for
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rain In the time
of the latter rain,
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and the LORD will
make flashing clouds;
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and give them
showers of rain, Grass in
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the field for everyone."
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So, here we have a special
prayer for the latter rain,
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a special
outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
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And as you said, Pastor Doug,
the former rain that took place
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at Pentecost, was the seed
that helped sprout the gospel
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throughout the world, but there
is a final ripening that has
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to take place
before Jesus comes.
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Doug: Before the harvest.
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Jëan: That's right,
and the Bible speaks of
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this special
outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
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We want to be ready
when that time comes,
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that we might be ones
who receive the latter rain.
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We have a book. I
just thought of it.
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It's called,
"Life in the Spirit."
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It's about the Holy
Spirit and living--preparing
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for that latter rain.
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If you'd like to receive it, the
number to call is 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the book.
00:14:22.82\00:14:24.13
It's called,
"Life in the Spirit."
00:14:24.16\00:14:25.46
You can also dial
#250 on your smartphone,
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say "Bible Answers
Live," and ask for the book,
00:14:28.66\00:14:30.63
"Life in the Spirit."
00:14:30.67\00:14:32.63
We've got Oliver in
St. Louis, Missouri.
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Oliver, welcome to the program.
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Oliver: Good evening, Pastors,
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and thank you for the call.
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My question is about the
passage in Revelation that
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talks about how at Jesus's
Second Coming, every eye will
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see Him, and
addressing, specifically,
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the part where,
since the world is round,
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how exactly does
that happen physically?
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It doesn't say, "Every eye will
see Him at the same time," that
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He could be doing a sweep of
the world as He enters, and that
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could be--people
could see Him, I guess,
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in sequence as He goes around.
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Am I understanding correctly?
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Doug: Yeah, and by the way,
the verse is in Revelation 1:7
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and it's also in Matthew 24.
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It says: "They all--" in Matthew
24, it says: "All the tribes of
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the earth will mourn, and they
will see the Son of Man coming."
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And then here in
Revelation 1, it says: "Behold,
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He's coming with the clouds,
and every eye will see Him."
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And so, some have wondered,
"Well, if the world's round,
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how does everybody
see Him at the same time?"
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Well, I don't think the
verse is saying everybody
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sees Him simultaneously.
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I think it's saying
the Day of the Lord,
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when He does come,
and it says, you know,
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"He sends forth His angels to
the four corners of the Earth,"
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and Christ is going to, I
believe, make a circuit around
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the Earth and we are caught
up to meet Him in the air.
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As He does that, everybody
in the world will see Him.
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But it doesn't
mean at the same moment.
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Jëan: Mm-hmm, absolutely.
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We've got a study guide,
talking about the Second Coming.
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It's called, "The Ultimate
Deliverance," and we'll be happy
00:15:58.69\00:16:01.56
to send it to
anyone who calls and asks.
00:16:01.59\00:16:03.16
Very exciting
and important study.
00:16:03.19\00:16:04.83
It's all about
the Second Coming,
00:16:04.86\00:16:06.16
"The Ultimate Deliverance."
00:16:06.19\00:16:07.50
The number is 800-835-6747
or you can dial #250,
00:16:07.50\00:16:12.77
ask for the study guide by
name, "Ultimate Deliverance."
00:16:12.80\00:16:16.64
Thank you. We've
got Henry in New York.
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Henry, welcome to the program.
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Henry: Yes,
Pastor, good evening.
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My question is: People
who are born mentally sick,
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mentally--if they die at
the age of 90 years old and
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they're still mentally sick, if
they do certain things, will God
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hold it against them?"
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Doug: Yeah, well,
God is a loving God,
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Henry, and so if a person has
some kind of mental handicap,
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you know, He may judge many of
them as you would a child before
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the age of accountability,
and they would be saved.
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The Bible says that to whom
much is given, much is required.
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If a person is given
little, little is required.
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And some people, they
just don't understand.
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And Jesus said people are judged
because they do understand
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and they ignore the truth.
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He said if you were blind you
would have no sin, but now you
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say, "We see, or we understand,"
He says your sin remains.
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So, people who, they're
handicapped in some way and they
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just can't understand,
God is a merciful God.
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And so, we never have to
worry about will God be fair.
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God, He's the very
epitome of justice.
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Jëan: All right, very good.
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Oscar, listening in New York.
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Oscar, welcome to the program.
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Oscar: Yes, sir.
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The Bible says that
"God is a consuming fire."
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So my question is
this: Is the lake of fire in
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the book of Revelation, God?
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Doug: That's
talking about, you know,
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He's got a
Shekinah glory, a presence,
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and it says a fire
devours before Him,
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and the Bible tells us that
the wicked--when Christ comes,
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the wicked are
destroyed by the brightness,
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the glory, of His Coming.
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It's almost like
when I was a kid,
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we would sometimes play with a
magnifying glass on a summer day
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and it wasn't very nice,
but we'd burn ants, and just the
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magnification of just that light
was enough to burn up the ants.
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Well, the glory of
God is going to be bright,
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but it will not
hurt the righteous,
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but it will destroy the wicked.
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Now, that's separate from the
lake of fire 'cause the Bible
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says: "These are
separated from God.
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It's--they are cast away, they
are cast into the lake of fire.
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So the lake of fire where
the wicked are consumed and
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devoured, that is
not the--God's glory.
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It is--by lake of fire,
like the fire and brimstone burn
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up Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Jëan: And in Revelation
chapter 20 we read about what's
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called the Great
White Throne Judgment.
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Describes the wicked
outside of the New Jerusalem,
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the righteous are inside
the city, and there is a final
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judgment and they can
actually see God, so He must
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veil His glory somehow
during that judgment time.
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And then the wicked mount their
attack upon the New Jerusalem.
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And then fire comes down from
heaven and devours them and it
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talks here in
Revelation chapter 20,
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verse 15: "Anyone not found
written in the Book of Life was
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cast into the lake of fire."
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So, again, you've got God
the Father or the glory of God,
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somehow veiled because
the wicked are not destroyed,
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and yet there is the lake
of fire in which they are cast
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at the end of that judgment.
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Doug: Yeah, and that final
judgment is not God's light or
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glory 'cause it says they're
cast into outer darkness where
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there's weeping
and gnashing of teeth.
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So it's a different
punishment that you see there.
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But, good
question. Thank you, Henry.
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Jëan: We've got
Christiana in Florida.
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Christina, rather, sorry.
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Christine--Christina, welcome
to the--to "Bible Answers Live."
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Christina: Hi, good evening.
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Doug: Evening.
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And your question?
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Christina: Yeah, I have a
question: Will we be able to
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see God when we go to heaven,
because there is a lot of
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different
conflicting things in the Bible.
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For example, 1
Timothy chapter 6,
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verse 16 says that, you know, no
one will ever see God and we'll
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never be able to see Him, but
Moses saw God's back and then
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there's another verse that says:
"Blessed are those that are
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righteous for they'll see God,"
and then there's another verse
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that says we would be
consumed if we saw God
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because we're so sinful.
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So when we get to heaven, will
we actually be able to see God?
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Doug: Well, the
simple answer is yes,
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and my verse is Revelation
22:4, last chapter in the Bible.
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Says: "They will see His
face," speaking of the saved.
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Now, right now, we cannot
see God the Father because the
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glory, as I mentioned,
would just--it would consume us.
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And even God told
Moses who is holy,
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"No man can see My
face," His unveiled glory,
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"in their present condition."
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Now, Moses is in the presence
of God with a glorified body.
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Now I'm sure he
does see God's face.
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And in heaven,
you know, God used to
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walk in the
garden with Adam and Eve.
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They saw God.
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The times in the Old Testament
where it says they saw God,
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they probably saw what we call
a Christophany which is--it's
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Christ before the incarnation.
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They saw God the Son.
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So anytime it
says--and even Jesus said,
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"No man can see the Father,"
and that's probably one of the
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verses you're
referring to, Christina.
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So when it says that
they can't see the Father,
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it's talking about man in his
fallen condition cannot see the
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face of God the
Father, we do see Jesus.
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Christ said, "If you've seen
Me, you've seen the Father."
00:21:29.92\00:21:32.22
It's, you know,
veiled in humanity.
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But in heaven, it's
as clear as it can be.
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We will see His face. God
Himself will dwell with us.
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Jëan: Okay, thank you.
Doug: Thanks, good question.
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Jëan: We've got
Justin in Wisconsin.
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Justin, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:21:46.13\00:21:49.67
Justin: Hi, my
question is: How do you keep
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the commandments?
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Doug: How do you keep them?
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Well, Jesus
says: "If you love Me."
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The best way to
keep the commandments is
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because you love God.
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I was just reading
today, Pastor Ross,
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you know, I'm starting a new
Bible-reading program and I'm in
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Genesis where Jacob
is working for Rachel.
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He's got to work 7 years.
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The Bible says he
loved her so much,
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it seemed like days.
00:22:13.26\00:22:16.46
The work seemed like
nothing because of the love
00:22:16.50\00:22:18.60
that he had for Rachel.
00:22:18.63\00:22:20.37
And the more we love the Lord,
any good works or obedience is
00:22:20.40\00:22:24.57
just--it's an act of love.
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We want to do the
things that please Him.
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So, if we're struggling
to obey, the question is how
00:22:28.21\00:22:31.98
do we love God more?
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The Bible tells us that we love
Him because He first loved us.
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So when we see and we behold
Christ's love for us in His life
00:22:38.95\00:22:43.39
and on the cross, it
moves our hearts and we love Him
00:22:43.43\00:22:47.36
and want to serve Him.
00:22:47.40\00:22:49.30
Jëan: That verse you're
referring to is John chapter 14,
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verse 15, where Jesus
says: "If you love Me,
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keep My commandments."
00:22:53.47\00:22:54.77
And we love Him
because He first loved us.
00:22:54.80\00:22:56.37
We need to behold Him.
00:22:56.40\00:22:57.71
We behold Him through His Word.
00:22:57.74\00:22:59.51
Pastor, like you
mentioned, you started
00:22:59.54\00:23:01.08
a new Bible-reading plan.
00:23:01.11\00:23:02.54
Well, I read the very same
passage of scripture 'cause
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we're probably on the same plan.
00:23:05.45\00:23:07.22
And we just want
to encourage people,
00:23:07.25\00:23:08.55
what a great opportunity.
00:23:08.58\00:23:10.25
If you're not on a
Bible-reading plan,
00:23:10.29\00:23:12.39
you need to get on one.
00:23:12.42\00:23:13.72
I mean, it doesn't
take long, actually,
00:23:13.76\00:23:15.59
it's--if you read
the Bible over a year,
00:23:15.62\00:23:18.03
it's divided up, you could
probably read your daily portion
00:23:18.06\00:23:20.40
within 10, 15 minutes.
00:23:20.43\00:23:22.00
So it doesn't take long.
00:23:22.03\00:23:23.40
There's even apps that will
read the Bible to you and help
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you stay on track so--
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have is Cedric in Florida.
00:23:58.63\00:24:01.40
Cedric, welcome to the program.
00:24:01.44\00:24:05.54
Cedric: Thank you, Pastors,
Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross.
00:24:05.57\00:24:09.74
This is a question for
Pastor Doug: What is your
00:24:09.78\00:24:13.98
opinion on people who are
cremated and still buried?"
00:24:14.02\00:24:17.59
Doug: Cremated and still buried?
00:24:17.62\00:24:21.36
I'm not sure what you
mean: "cremated and buried."
00:24:21.39\00:24:22.92
So you mean if they're cremated
and then they're buried,
00:24:22.96\00:24:24.96
does that affect
the Resurrection, or--
00:24:24.99\00:24:27.50
Cedric: No, what I'm--all I'm
saying is that some people are
00:24:27.50\00:24:32.93
cremated and
they're not scattered.
00:24:32.97\00:24:35.47
Their ashes is being
buried in the cemetery.
00:24:35.50\00:24:38.67
Doug: Yeah, well,
yeah, and matter of fact,
00:24:38.71\00:24:40.64
that's what happened with
my grandparents is they were
00:24:40.68\00:24:43.58
cremated and then
they have a cemetery.
00:24:43.61\00:24:45.45
They've got a wall that's full
of urns, and they have people do
00:24:45.48\00:24:49.58
that economically
'cause it saves space compared
00:24:49.62\00:24:51.72
to a whole coffin.
00:24:51.75\00:24:53.32
But, you know, I don't think
there's really any difference.
00:24:53.36\00:24:56.69
The Bible tells
us: "Ashes to ashes,
00:24:56.73\00:24:59.26
and dust to dust," so it's not
a problem for God to resurrect.
00:24:59.29\00:25:03.50
Now, technically, if you say,
"What is the Bible method for
00:25:03.53\00:25:09.40
disposing of dead or
how do you treat the dead?"
00:25:09.44\00:25:12.14
almost 99% of
the time it's burial.
00:25:12.17\00:25:16.11
You know, Abraham was
buried, Isaac was buried,
00:25:16.14\00:25:18.01
Joseph was buried.
00:25:18.05\00:25:19.38
They were embalmed,
but then they were buried.
00:25:19.41\00:25:21.72
Only one or two examples
in the Bible of a believer
00:25:21.75\00:25:24.35
that was cremated.
00:25:24.39\00:25:25.95
Now, many of the martyrs
who died for their faith,
00:25:25.99\00:25:29.12
they were burned at the stake.
00:25:29.16\00:25:30.79
Well, they're certainly
going to be resurrected,
00:25:30.83\00:25:32.39
so cremation does not prevent
God from resurrecting you.
00:25:32.43\00:25:36.63
Then folks have
argued, you know,
00:25:36.67\00:25:37.97
now with so many
people in the world,
00:25:38.00\00:25:40.14
all the space
taken up by cemeteries,
00:25:40.17\00:25:41.90
how can we keep
doing this, you know,
00:25:41.94\00:25:44.07
I don't know that there--it's
a--what's the word for it?
00:25:44.11\00:25:46.57
I don't know that
it's a saved/lost question,
00:25:46.61\00:25:49.78
but biblically, if you
want to know what they did,
00:25:49.81\00:25:52.15
it was typically burial.
00:25:52.18\00:25:54.22
Jëan: That's right, you
know, the Bible does talk about
00:25:54.25\00:25:56.32
a couple of examples where
a believer, as far as we know,
00:25:56.35\00:25:59.75
was burnt, and you have 1 Samuel
chapter 31, verse 12, talks
00:25:59.79\00:26:03.89
about the bones of Jonathan
after his death were gathered
00:26:03.93\00:26:07.10
and they were burnt
and, of course, we believe
00:26:07.13\00:26:08.60
that Jonathan will be saved.
00:26:08.63\00:26:10.63
He was a good man
and he'll be in heaven.
00:26:10.67\00:26:12.83
Doug: And you know, during
the Reformation, some of the
00:26:12.87\00:26:15.57
martyrs like Whitefield or
Wycliffe, they scattered their
00:26:15.60\00:26:19.64
ashes in the river and they
thought that'll prevent this.
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00:31:24.31\00:31:26.78
Jason, welcome to
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00:31:26.82\00:31:30.39
Jason: Hi, thank you, and
thank you for your program.
00:31:30.42\00:31:33.09
My question is--well, first, I'm
an atheist, and my question is a
00:31:33.12\00:31:36.52
lot of times when I talk with
Christians and I sort of back
00:31:36.56\00:31:40.16
'em into a corner because we
can't understand why God does
00:31:40.20\00:31:45.00
something, and a lot
of times they'll say,
00:31:45.03\00:31:46.90
"Well, you know,
we're just human,
00:31:46.94\00:31:49.37
and we can't understand God."
00:31:49.40\00:31:51.37
So I was calling
to ask, specifically,
00:31:51.41\00:31:53.94
What is it about the human
brain that doesn't allow us to
00:31:53.98\00:31:58.11
understand God," because I think
there isn't anything missing in
00:31:58.15\00:32:02.78
the human brain that would
allow us to understand God.
00:32:02.82\00:32:06.29
Doug: Well, I think, first
of all, I'm delighted to talk to
00:32:06.32\00:32:07.96
you, I used to
be an atheist too.
00:32:07.99\00:32:10.69
And I got to where I just didn't
have enough faith to be an
00:32:10.73\00:32:13.83
atheist because, to me, there
is--I can't find any evidence in
00:32:13.86\00:32:19.77
the observable universe where
you get inner working systems,
00:32:19.80\00:32:24.11
organization,
and design by chance.
00:32:24.14\00:32:28.01
There's always intelligence
invested in those things.
00:32:28.04\00:32:30.55
Now, I think we can understand
something about the mind of God
00:32:30.58\00:32:34.35
and, in the
Bible, God says, "Come,
00:32:34.38\00:32:35.92
now let us reason together."
00:32:35.95\00:32:38.02
And there's a lot of
evidence we see in the world of,
00:32:38.05\00:32:42.02
you know, just the symbiotic
relationship between creatures
00:32:42.06\00:32:45.49
and plants and animals,
a just incredible cycle of,
00:32:45.53\00:32:50.60
you know, we exhale what
the plants inhale, so to speak.
00:32:50.63\00:32:54.70
And so there's a lot
we understand from God,
00:32:54.74\00:32:57.57
both in His Word and in
the observable universe.
00:32:57.61\00:33:01.51
You know, I'd love
to see you read my book.
00:33:01.54\00:33:04.88
You can actually listen to
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00:33:04.91\00:33:08.35
It's called, "The Richest
Caveman," and it tells you why I
00:33:08.38\00:33:11.45
went from being an
atheist or at least an agnostic
00:33:11.49\00:33:15.09
to believing in the Bible.
00:33:15.12\00:33:17.53
And I thought that
would never happen.
00:33:17.56\00:33:19.63
But yeah, it's--I
don't know if I'm answering
00:33:19.66\00:33:23.10
your question, though.
00:33:23.13\00:33:25.53
Jason: No, you're not.
00:33:25.57\00:33:27.37
Doug: Okay, you want to know
what in our human minds would
00:33:27.40\00:33:29.84
prevent us from
understanding the will of God?
00:33:29.87\00:33:33.48
Jason: Yeah.
00:33:33.51\00:33:35.28
Doug: Well, see, I think we
can understand the will of God.
00:33:35.31\00:33:38.95
So, I'm having a
problem with the question.
00:33:38.98\00:33:41.88
I think His Word--
00:33:41.92\00:33:43.32
Jason: Well, I guess
it doesn't apply to you.
00:33:43.35\00:33:45.05
Doug: Sorry, go ahead.
00:33:45.09\00:33:47.32
Jason: Well, I guess
it doesn't apply to you.
00:33:47.36\00:33:48.96
Maybe it just applies to
Christians who think they can't
00:33:48.99\00:33:53.43
because this is the
problem I run up a lot when
00:33:53.46\00:33:57.03
I talk with Christians.
00:33:57.07\00:33:58.47
Doug: Well, no, in fairness,
there's a lot of things that
00:33:58.50\00:34:01.30
happen we don't understand.
00:34:01.34\00:34:03.44
I mean, we see a tragedy where
some innocent person suffers and
00:34:03.47\00:34:06.34
we think if God is
good, why does that happen?
00:34:06.37\00:34:08.91
Now, to some extent, we do
understand those things and a
00:34:08.94\00:34:12.55
lot of Christians don't--they
don't explain it very well,
00:34:12.58\00:34:17.12
but there's a battle that is
going on between good and evil.
00:34:17.15\00:34:20.62
Not only is there
a good, loving God,
00:34:20.66\00:34:23.83
but the highest of His creation
was a creature called Lucifer
00:34:23.86\00:34:27.76
that rebelled and came
to this world and said,
00:34:27.83\00:34:30.53
"I can run things better."
00:34:30.57\00:34:32.33
And our first parents, they
listened to Lucifer instead of
00:34:32.37\00:34:36.14
God and, basically,
he hijacked the planet.
00:34:36.17\00:34:38.71
Now, there's a lot of forces at
play here that are in the Bible,
00:34:38.74\00:34:41.28
people don't talk about.
00:34:41.31\00:34:42.71
So, a lot of the
evil that we see in the
00:34:42.74\00:34:44.28
world is not God's will.
00:34:44.31\00:34:46.48
That's why Jesus said we
should pray, "Thy will be done,"
00:34:46.51\00:34:49.65
'cause a lot of things
God doesn't want to happen.
00:34:49.68\00:34:52.52
So when we see
things we don't understand,
00:34:52.55\00:34:55.39
you know, we can't see
into the spiritual realm,
00:34:55.42\00:34:57.46
just like we
can't see radio waves,
00:34:57.49\00:35:01.50
but they're very real.
00:35:01.53\00:35:03.57
Jëan: And of course,
we mentioned earlier,
00:35:03.60\00:35:05.17
we do have a study guide
that talks about the Bible.
00:35:05.20\00:35:08.04
And if you believe the Bible,
and there's plenty of evidence
00:35:08.07\00:35:11.11
to support the Bible,
that it is a trustworthy book,
00:35:11.14\00:35:14.44
and is a revelation,
and if you read the Bible,
00:35:14.48\00:35:17.48
you understand more of
this great controversy,
00:35:17.51\00:35:19.81
you understand what God is like
and you understand the plan of
00:35:19.85\00:35:23.08
redemption and what
God did to save mankind.
00:35:23.12\00:35:26.29
So, again, that is
a great resource for
00:35:26.32\00:35:28.66
anyone wanting to learn more.
00:35:28.69\00:35:29.99
It's called, "The
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00:35:30.03\00:35:32.19
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00:35:32.23\00:35:33.53
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00:35:33.56\00:35:38.17
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00:35:38.20\00:35:39.63
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00:35:43.91\00:35:45.64
Thank you, Jason. We've
got Grace in California.
00:35:45.67\00:35:47.94
Grace, welcome to the program.
00:35:47.98\00:35:50.48
Grace: Yes, thank you.
00:35:50.51\00:35:51.81
Good evening, Pastor
Doug and Pastor Ross.
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Doug: Evening.
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Grace: My question is: "Is
it okay for a student to take
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yoga classes in college?"
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Doug: Yeah, well, yoga--yeah,
I used to be involved in Eastern
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religions, and yoga was
sort of a combination of,
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you know, body exercises,
procedures, cleansing,
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and it was sort of combining
the body and the spirit.
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But it was woven into the
mysticism of the religion.
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So, for me, I would not
be comfortable doing that.
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I stop short of condemning
people that are doing yoga
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exercises for purely
physical reasons but,
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in its beginning, yoga is very
much tied to a religious belief,
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and there's other great
exercises besides yoga classes.
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Don't know if
that helps a little.
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Hope that makes
sense, Grace. Thank you.
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Jëan: We've got
Christian in Texas.
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Christian,
welcome to the program.
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Christian: Okay, so my
question is Job chapter 1: "How
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did Satan get into the presence
of God and the angels if he was
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kicked out of heaven?"
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Doug: Well, first of all,
the Bible doesn't say this
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meeting was in heaven.
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It says: "There was a day when
the sons of God came to present
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themselves before the LORD,
and the devil came among them."
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And this is in Job chapter 1.
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So, you know, God left
heaven every now and then,
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for instance when He walked
with Adam and Eve in the garden,
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He went other places to visit
His creatures and His creation.
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And so, wherever this
meeting is, it doesn't say in
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the Bible, Satan is
able to access this meeting.
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And I don't know that the devil
was completely confined to the
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earth until after
the time of the cross.
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I think Jesus said,
"I beheld Satan fall like
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lightning from heaven."
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I think that up to that point
he was able to still accuse.
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You see him in
the book of Zechariah,
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he's standing before the
Lord accusing the high priest.
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Jëan: And when it says that
the devil or Satan was cast out
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of heaven, it's not necessarily
meaning that he can never go
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back for a meeting
or something like that,
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but it means that
was no longer his home.
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He was cast out of heaven,
the dwelling place of God.
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So, wherever the
meeting took place, if it was
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in heaven, well, the devil
came for a specific reason.
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He claimed the earth was his and
he was representing the earth.
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That's why God said,
"Where did you come from?"
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and he said, "Oh, from walking
up and down on the earth."
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So he claimed the earth is his.
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Quite possibly, the sons of God
that we read about there in Job
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are representatives of
other intelligent worlds
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of unfallen beings.
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The devil claims
the earth is his,
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so you have the story
there, recorded in Job.
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And, just to add to that,
Revelation chapter 12 talks
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about the devil being cast out
of heaven and that took place
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before Creation, but
then it also says at the cross
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the devil was cast down.
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And, as you
mentioned, at the cross.
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Now, Jesus is the representative
of the earth because the devil
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is now bound to this earth.
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Doug: Yeah, and you know, one
more thing occurred to me while
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you were talking
is that, you know,
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here in our world,
I can talk to people,
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I did it today on the
other side of the planet.
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And what makes us think that
the devil had to actually be
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standing in front
of God to talk to God?
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If we've got cell
phones and internet,
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then the devil can
communicate with God
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no matter where he is.
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But I think this one, it
does imply in the book of Job he
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came into the presence.
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He showed up. But thank you.
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Jëan: All right, next
caller that we have is
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Natasha in New York;
Natasha, welcome to the program.
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Natasha: Thank you so much.
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Okay, so my question
is--it's based on Mark 9:5.
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I saw that--well, I
read that Moses and Elijah,
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they made a cameo appearance
in the New Testament, and I was
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wondering about Enoch, 'cause
I never--since God took Enoch,
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I never saw--I never
read about him again.
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I just wanted to hear
your thoughts on that.
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Thank you, I listen often.
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Doug: Yeah, good question.
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You know, the Bible tells us
not only did Elijah go to heaven
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without dying, but
"Enoch walked with God and he
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was not for God took him."
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Why was it only Moses and Elijah
that appeared on the Mount of
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Transfiguration that
you find in Mark chapter 9?
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And by the way, that's
also in Luke and in Matthew.
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I think it's because that,
for that particular experience,
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Moses and Elijah had a
relationship with Jesus
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different from Enoch's.
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Both Moses and
Elijah fasted 40 days
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and 40 nights, as Jesus did.
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Moses represents the law,
Elijah represents the prophets.
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Enoch might have been
beholding from the front row.
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We don't know.
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But just Moses and
Elijah came to appear.
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This basically symbolizing
the law and the prophets that
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endorsed that
Jesus was the Messiah.
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Jëan: And also,
we have a miniature
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of the Second Coming there.
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Jesus said, you know, just
6 days after he said to his
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disciples: "You shall see
the Son of Man in His glory."
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Doug: Or 6 days before.
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Jëan: Six days before that, yes.
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And then, of course, Elijah
represents those who are alive
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when Jesus comes
and are translated
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to heaven without seeing death.
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And Moses, who died and was
resurrected, could represent
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those who are resurrected
at the Second Coming of Christ.
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So, it's rather significant that
you have those two appearing
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with Jesus on the
Mount of Transfiguration.
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Doug: It's a miniature
picture of the Second Coming.
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Jëan: We actually
have a book called--
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Doug: It's called,
"The Two Witnesses."
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Jëan: "The Two
Witnesses," that's right.
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And it's free, we'll send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:41:20.71\00:41:23.35
The number is 800-835-6747.
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Ask for the book
called, "The Two Witnesses."
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Also you can dial
#250 and ask for that.
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Say "Bible Answers
Live," and then ask
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for "The Two Witnesses."
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We've got John
listening in Arizona.
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John, welcome to the program.
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John: Yeah, well, I listened
to Pastor Doug's response to the
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return of the Lord
in Revelations 1:7,
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but then in Matthew 24:27 it
says that "Lightning Cometh out
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of the east and
flashes even unto the west."
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I'm of the opinion, I'm
asking for a comment on this,
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that because I know lightning
will travel around the earth
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seven times in a
second, to see the light,
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and He says from east to
west as the lightning flashes.
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And it would seem logical
that every eye would see Him
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in a--within that second.
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Doug: Yeah, well, I think
that when Jesus talks about His
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Second Coming
being as lightning,
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He's not
emphasizing the speed of light,
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He's emphasizing that everyone
will see and it will not be a
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secret 'cause when lightning
flashes across the sky,
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you don't have to elbow
the person next to you and say,
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"Did you see that?"
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So He's actually addressing the
idea that His Coming would be a
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secret and He's
saying, "It's not a secret.
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It'll be like lightning
that covers the heavens."
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He's not saying that His Coming
would sweep around the heaven in
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the blink of an eye
and He'd be done with it.
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So, at least,
that's my understanding.
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But you make a good point.
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He says: "It'll go
from the east to the west."
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He's talking about it traveling
from point A to point B.
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Jesus is coming from the east
and He's going to sweep around
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the world for
the--you know, going west
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and head back to heaven.
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Jëan: And not
only that, Pastor Doug,
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but Joel said the earth that
is still turning when Jesus is
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coming, so as Christ approaches
the earth and the earth keeps
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turning, well, in 24 hours the
earth has made a full rotation.
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Everybody has seen Jesus coming.
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Even before He
sweeps around the earth.
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As He's approaching the
earth, everyone will see Him.
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Doug: That's true, yeah.
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Even if He stood still,
everyone would eventually
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see Him in 24 hours.
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Jëan: That's right, because the
earth, yeah, the earth turns.
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We've got Ryan in New Mexico.
Ryan, welcome to the program.
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Ryan: Hello, again.
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I have a different
question this time.
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Basically, whenever I'm
talking about the Bible and,
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you know, basically the
difference between the law of
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Moses and the Ten Commandments,
is--were the two tablets were
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made out of--were they
made out of blue sapphire?
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You know,
because Yahweh, you know,
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wrote on 'em with His
finger, do you know what I mean?
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And they kept them on the inside
of the ark of the covenant and
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then they had the
law of Moses, you know,
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written on paper by Moses.
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D'you know what I'm saying?
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And kept on the
outside of the ark.
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You know, and then
you can go on from there,
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but yeah, blue sapphire.
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Were they made
out of blue sapphire?
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Doug: Yeah, some
people conjecture that the Ten
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Commandments were written on
blue sapphire 'cause sapphire's
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one of the stones
that's mentioned as a pavement
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around God's throne.
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But there's no scripture, so
all I would do is speculate and,
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you know, I got to tell you, if
it's--if I don't have a command
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that says: "And this law
was written on sapphire,"
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I can't tell you it was.
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It just says,
"two tables of stone."
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Now, evidently,
whatever that stone was,
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it must have been available
in the desert there because when
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Moses broke the
first tables of stone,
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God told him to hew two more
tables of stone like the first
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and bring them up.
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So, nothing is said
about the value of the stone.
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It could have been plain granite
or some stone that was abundant,
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probably hard, that was
found there in the desert,
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but not so hard
that you, you know,
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couldn't--I guess God
could chisel on anything.
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But, anyway, it
never says it was sapphire.
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We've got a member of our church
that cuts stone, and he made us
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a beautiful set of Ten
Commandments on a bluish granite
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'cause he thinks
it's sapphire also.
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Might be, we don't know.
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So there's no
command, no specific scripture.
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Jëan: Yeah, and
it's a good question.
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Was there sapphire in that
region, in the Sinai, in the
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desert, and it must have
been a large piece of sapphire.
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Can you--you know, do you find
that big of a sapphire stone?
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I don't know. Maybe.
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Doug: Yeah, well, I
can't wait to find out, Ryan.
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Jëan: Yeah, all right,
we got Donna in Canada.
00:45:57.15\00:45:59.92
Donna, welcome to the program.
00:45:59.95\00:46:02.66
Donna: Thank you so much.
00:46:02.69\00:46:04.36
Okay, I'm trying to study the
Bible, and I have to tell you
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I've never been
interested in history,
00:46:08.63\00:46:10.80
I've never been
interested in politics.
00:46:10.83\00:46:13.84
I don't have a clue about
either of those things and,
00:46:13.87\00:46:16.94
as I'm reading Daniel,
I think it's Daniel 11,
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it's talking about the king
of the North and the king of the
00:46:20.48\00:46:22.94
South, and he's talking about
all these different countries,
00:46:22.98\00:46:27.08
and I don't--it sounds
like a foreign language to me.
00:46:27.12\00:46:30.05
So I just wondered if you
had any books or whatever or
00:46:30.09\00:46:33.96
literature that
might explain these things.
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Doug: Great question.
00:46:37.06\00:46:38.93
You know, I think I
should mention that Pastor Ross
00:46:38.96\00:46:41.16
right now is doing a class
every week or almost every week,
00:46:41.20\00:46:45.17
going through Daniel,
and he's just getting ready
00:46:45.20\00:46:47.34
to dive into Daniel 11.
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Do not be discouraged, Donna,
that you don't understand all of
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the political intrigue
that is happening in Daniel 11.
00:46:52.81\00:46:56.85
It is a challenge--it's one of
the most challenging prophetic
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chapters in the Bible, but
very simply you've got a battle
00:47:00.15\00:47:03.72
between, it says, "the king
of the North and the king of the
00:47:03.75\00:47:06.76
South," that starts out with
the southern powers of the Greek
00:47:06.79\00:47:12.36
empire and the northern powers
of the Greek empire and then
00:47:12.39\00:47:15.70
that kind of
transitions over history.
00:47:15.73\00:47:17.97
How those transitions
play out is quite a bit
00:47:18.00\00:47:20.50
of discussion on it--I
don't know, Pastor Ross,
00:47:20.54\00:47:22.17
you got lessons
coming out eventually.
00:47:22.20\00:47:23.51
Jëan: Yeah, we do,
we're actually going to be
00:47:23.54\00:47:24.84
talking about that
in a couple of weeks.
00:47:24.87\00:47:26.21
So, you know, if
you want to tune in,
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I think it's on YouTube,
you can go take a look at that.
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Yeah, it is interesting,
you've got, as you mentioned,
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Pastor Doug, the king of
the North begins with the
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Assyrian powers, part
of the Grecian empire, and
00:47:35.88\00:47:39.59
you have the king of the South,
Ptolemy, would be the lineage.
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And the king of Egypt.
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Eventually, the king of Egypt is
subdued by the king of the North
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which would be
the Grecian power.
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There's different kings that
come and go but they all fall
00:47:51.80\00:47:53.94
under the king of the North.
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But then, Rome
conquers the Greeks,
00:47:55.84\00:47:58.51
and Rome becomes
the king of the North.
00:47:58.54\00:48:01.41
And very interesting, 'cause it
plays even to both Rome in its
00:48:01.44\00:48:04.41
pagan form and
also in its papal form.
00:48:04.45\00:48:06.95
Then you get to around verse 40,
it brings you right up to our
00:48:06.98\00:48:09.52
time so, yeah,
there's a lot there.
00:48:09.55\00:48:11.75
Doug: Yeah,
great question, Donna.
00:48:11.79\00:48:13.96
Keep studying. You'll get clear.
00:48:13.99\00:48:17.59
Jëan: All right, we
got Lloyd in Arkansas.
00:48:17.63\00:48:20.96
Lloyd, welcome to the program.
00:48:21.00\00:48:23.57
Lloyd: Thank you very
much for listening to me.
00:48:23.60\00:48:26.94
Doug: Yes.
00:48:26.97\00:48:29.14
Lloyd: My question is: "Can
you explain to me Psalms chapter
00:48:29.17\00:48:33.84
2, verse 7, and
Hebrews chapter 5, verse 5?"
00:48:33.88\00:48:38.65
What is taking place
there and who's doing
00:48:38.68\00:48:40.98
the talking and whom?
00:48:41.02\00:48:42.32
Doug: Great, all right,
let me read it for our friends.
00:48:42.35\00:48:44.55
If you go to Psalms,
this is 2nd Psalm in verse 7,
00:48:44.59\00:48:48.56
it says: "I will declare the
decree: The LORD has said to Me,
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'You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.
00:48:52.56\00:48:55.73
Ask of Me,'" and I
want to read verse 8 also.
00:48:55.76\00:48:57.43
"Ask of Me, and I will
give You The nations for Your
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inheritance, And the ends of
the earth for Your possession."
00:48:59.80\00:49:03.54
So when you get
to the New Testament,
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we see that this is--this is
a prophecy of Jesus, and if you
00:49:05.64\00:49:11.85
look in Hebrews 1, verse 5,
it says: "For to which of the
00:49:11.88\00:49:15.02
angels did he ever
say: 'You are my Son?'"
00:49:15.05\00:49:17.35
Paul, assuming Paul wrote
Hebrews, Paul is saying this is
00:49:17.39\00:49:20.52
a prophecy about Jesus.
00:49:20.56\00:49:21.86
He's not talking
about angels being His Son,
00:49:21.89\00:49:24.46
and David, when it says: "My
Lord--the Lord said to my Lord,
00:49:24.49\00:49:28.93
'Sit at My right
hand,'" so you've got the Lord
00:49:28.96\00:49:31.33
talking to the Lord.
00:49:31.37\00:49:33.17
So, clearly, it's God the
Father talking to God the Son.
00:49:33.20\00:49:36.24
It's the same God the Son
you see in Daniel 7 who comes
00:49:36.27\00:49:39.77
before the Ancient of Days.
00:49:39.81\00:49:42.94
So, when it says: "This day I
have begotten You," there it's
00:49:42.98\00:49:47.45
really talking about
the incarnation of Jesus.
00:49:47.48\00:49:51.89
Jëan: And of course, you
have--well, you've already
00:49:51.92\00:49:53.82
read verse 8, but verse
9 says: "You shall break
00:49:53.86\00:49:55.86
them with a rod of iron; and You
shall dash them into pieces."
00:49:55.89\00:49:58.56
Now, that's a
messianic phrase when it talks
00:49:58.59\00:50:00.80
about a rod of iron.
00:50:00.83\00:50:02.53
It's also refer to Jesus when He
comes and He smites the wicked,
00:50:02.56\00:50:05.70
it says, with a rod of
iron that represents judgment.
00:50:05.73\00:50:09.04
So, clearly, this
passage is talking about
00:50:09.07\00:50:11.17
Jesus, the messianic phrase.
00:50:11.21\00:50:12.77
Doug: Yeah, and that's
in Revelation where it says:
00:50:12.81\00:50:14.44
"He will smash them as a rock."
00:50:14.48\00:50:15.78
Well, it actually says
in Revelation 12, "A child
00:50:15.81\00:50:18.28
rules all nations with
a rod of iron," man-child.
00:50:18.31\00:50:21.38
So, yup, I hope that
helps a little, Lloyd.
00:50:21.42\00:50:24.72
And appreciate your
question. Thank you.
00:50:24.75\00:50:27.02
Jëan: Okay, we've
got Adrian in California.
00:50:27.06\00:50:29.02
Adrian, welcome to the program.
00:50:29.06\00:50:31.73
Adrian: Thank you so
much. How are you guys doing?
00:50:31.76\00:50:34.13
Doug: Always
better than we deserve.
00:50:34.20\00:50:36.60
Adrian: Thank you,
thank you, and God bless.
00:50:36.63\00:50:38.57
As a Christian, if
someone asks you the question,
00:50:38.60\00:50:41.70
"Are you saved," what
should be your answer?
00:50:41.74\00:50:44.81
And should we know or be
assured that we are saved now?
00:50:44.84\00:50:49.24
Doug: Yeah, great question.
00:50:49.28\00:50:50.58
Well, first of all, I always
want to know who's asking me the
00:50:50.61\00:50:52.98
question, because
there's a context.
00:50:53.01\00:50:55.82
If one of my Baptist
friends says, "Are you saved?"
00:50:55.85\00:50:58.59
I'd say, "Yes,"
because what they're asking is,
00:50:58.62\00:51:00.99
"Do you know the Lord?"
00:51:01.02\00:51:03.16
If you've got an
Armenian friend and he
00:51:03.19\00:51:04.76
says, "Are you saved?"
00:51:04.79\00:51:06.36
they're wanting to know,
"Do you believe that once saved,
00:51:06.39\00:51:08.43
always saved," I'd
explain to them that,
00:51:08.46\00:51:10.10
you know, I have confidence
I know the Lord, that I am a
00:51:10.13\00:51:13.40
Christian, but it doesn't
mean that I can't be lost.
00:51:13.44\00:51:17.11
And so, some of it just has
to do with who's asking you the
00:51:17.14\00:51:20.21
question and
what's inferred by that.
00:51:20.24\00:51:23.31
Can we know we
have eternal life?
00:51:23.35\00:51:25.25
Can a Christian
have some confidence?
00:51:25.28\00:51:26.88
Well, John says: "By
this we may know that way
00:51:26.92\00:51:29.68
we have eternal life.
00:51:29.72\00:51:31.02
Whoever has the Son has life.
00:51:31.05\00:51:34.52
So, you know, I'm
hoping that that's answering
00:51:34.56\00:51:38.19
what you're asking, Adrian.
00:51:38.23\00:51:39.59
But we're going to try and
take one or two more calls.
00:51:39.63\00:51:41.80
We're running--the
clock's running up on us
00:51:41.83\00:51:43.67
here and we see people waiting.
00:51:43.70\00:51:45.00
Jëan: We've got
Diane in Washington.
00:51:45.03\00:51:46.33
Diane, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:51:46.37\00:51:48.40
We have just a few minutes.
00:51:48.44\00:51:50.94
Diane: Yeah, thank
you so much for taking
00:51:50.97\00:51:52.37
my call, first of all.
00:51:52.41\00:51:53.98
I have a family member that's
telling me that God created sin
00:51:54.01\00:51:57.91
and he's getting
this from Isaiah 45:7.
00:51:57.95\00:52:03.22
And he goes, "Well, it does say:
"I make peace and create evil,"
00:52:03.25\00:52:06.76
and so just quickly, I'd like
your thoughts on that 'cause I
00:52:06.79\00:52:09.89
don't believe
that God created sin.
00:52:09.92\00:52:12.66
I mean, He
gave--when He created Satan,
00:52:12.69\00:52:14.66
when He created Adam and
Eve, He gave us free will,
00:52:14.73\00:52:17.47
you know, to choose, so
I would just like feedback
00:52:17.50\00:52:19.87
on that, thank you.
00:52:19.90\00:52:21.20
Doug: Well, God is good,
God is just, God is perfect.
00:52:21.24\00:52:23.51
And God does not create evil.
00:52:23.54\00:52:25.57
God created a beautiful
angel that became a devil.
00:52:25.61\00:52:28.31
This verse is often
misunderstood just because when
00:52:28.34\00:52:30.71
you go from one
language to another,
00:52:30.75\00:52:32.48
it can lose some of its meaning.
00:52:32.51\00:52:35.35
Here, God is simply saying,
"I'm the one who allows these
00:52:35.38\00:52:38.52
judgments to come."
00:52:38.55\00:52:40.32
And so, the word "evil"
there is the word "calamity."
00:52:40.36\00:52:43.83
It means I can
send calamity and,
00:52:43.86\00:52:46.96
you know, when God
sent a flood on the world,
00:52:47.00\00:52:49.23
He sent calamity but it was
really a judgment, so that's
00:52:49.26\00:52:51.83
different than evil.
00:52:51.87\00:52:53.77
A judgment is
actually a good thing.
00:52:53.80\00:52:55.67
It's bringing justice.
00:52:55.70\00:52:57.77
You know, if a
judge sentences, you know,
00:52:57.81\00:53:00.94
a violent criminal to prison,
he's sending calamity to the
00:53:00.98\00:53:04.45
prisoner, but he's
sending peace to the citizens.
00:53:04.48\00:53:08.42
So, it's not evil, it's
good for a judge to do that.
00:53:08.45\00:53:11.42
So this is saying
God sends judgment.
00:53:11.45\00:53:13.72
Jëan: All right, one last
question, if we can get it in.
00:53:13.76\00:53:15.69
We've got Richard in--
00:53:15.72\00:53:17.73
Doug: Nebraska.
Richard, you're on the air.
00:53:17.76\00:53:19.89
Jëan: Richard,
yup, got just a minute.
00:53:19.93\00:53:21.40
Richard: Hello. Doug: Hi.
00:53:21.43\00:53:23.23
Richard: I always wondered,
'cause it says in the Bible that
00:53:23.26\00:53:26.67
the devil deceived
a third of the angels.
00:53:26.70\00:53:28.54
Do we have any idea,
and it's kind of, like,
00:53:28.57\00:53:30.67
a silly question,
but I always wondered
00:53:30.71\00:53:34.01
what was a third of the angels?
00:53:34.04\00:53:35.34
Do we even have
any clue, you know,
00:53:35.38\00:53:38.08
how many of--a third of what?
00:53:38.11\00:53:40.15
A million? A billion?
00:53:40.18\00:53:42.35
Doug: Well, you know, the
Bible does tell us that he's
00:53:42.38\00:53:45.55
surrounded by an
innumerable company of angels,
00:53:45.59\00:53:48.99
and I think it says 10,000--He
comes with 10,000 times 10,000.
00:53:49.02\00:53:52.59
Jëan: Thousands of thousands.
00:53:52.63\00:53:54.00
Doug: Yeah,
that's--it's basically saying
00:53:54.00\00:53:55.90
that it's countless.
00:53:55.93\00:53:57.50
You know, God said the
descendants of Abraham would be
00:53:57.53\00:53:59.37
like the stars and
like the dust of the sea.
00:53:59.40\00:54:03.04
So there are billions of angels,
there are guardian angels
00:54:03.07\00:54:05.44
for every human life.
00:54:05.47\00:54:07.38
And so if you figure there are 8
billion people in the world and
00:54:07.41\00:54:11.18
there's at least one guardian
angel and there may be a
00:54:11.21\00:54:13.48
guardian and recording angels,
or maybe they work in shifts,
00:54:13.52\00:54:16.72
there's billions
of angels, and so,
00:54:16.75\00:54:19.09
yeah, one-third of
them rebelled against God.
00:54:19.12\00:54:21.82
It's hard to put an
exact number on that,
00:54:21.86\00:54:23.26
obviously, but don't worry, God
is not running short on angels
00:54:23.29\00:54:27.23
like some kings
run short on soldiers.
00:54:27.23\00:54:30.10
He's got countless
angels that minister to Him.
00:54:30.13\00:54:33.70
And for our listening
friends, I always like a take
00:54:33.74\00:54:36.57
a moment and explain.
00:54:36.60\00:54:38.71
Those that are
listening on satellite radio,
00:54:38.74\00:54:40.84
satellite and Free to Air have
two different clocks that they
00:54:40.88\00:54:43.81
use, and it's because of that we
sign off sort of in two stages.
00:54:43.85\00:54:47.82
We'll say farewell and God
bless to our friends that are
00:54:47.85\00:54:51.09
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00:54:51.12\00:54:52.82
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00:54:52.85\00:54:55.32
taking a couple
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00:54:55.36\00:54:57.09
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00:54:57.13\00:54:59.09
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00:54:59.13\00:55:03.30
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00:55:03.33\00:55:04.63
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00:55:04.67\00:55:06.30
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Pastor Doug, from Trinidad,
Kian is asking: "Is Michael the
00:55:40.60\00:55:44.44
archangel Jesus, and if
so, what are the scriptures?"
00:55:44.47\00:55:49.14
Doug: Yeah, I
remember when I first learned
00:55:49.18\00:55:50.81
this, I thought,
"How can that be?
00:55:50.85\00:55:52.15
He's called an angel."
00:55:52.18\00:55:53.48
Well, it's not a regular angel.
00:55:53.52\00:55:56.25
One of the titles for Jesus is
"Michael the Archangel," and it
00:55:56.28\00:56:00.49
doesn't mean Jesus is an angel.
00:56:00.52\00:56:01.99
That word "archangel," it
means the greatest messenger.
00:56:02.02\00:56:05.49
And the Bible says: "The Lord
Himself will descend from heaven
00:56:05.53\00:56:08.26
with a shout and the
voice of the archangel."
00:56:08.30\00:56:11.77
It's the archangel
that resurrects Moses.
00:56:11.80\00:56:15.14
It's the angel of the Lord that
Joshua worships, and we are only
00:56:15.17\00:56:19.37
to worship God and
that's in the book of Joshua,
00:56:19.41\00:56:21.78
chapter 2, I think.
00:56:21.81\00:56:24.05
Jëan: Right, the verse
talking about the archangel is
00:56:24.08\00:56:26.01
1 Thessalonians 4:16.
00:56:26.05\00:56:27.75
It says: "The Lord will
come with the voice--with the
00:56:27.78\00:56:29.82
shout of the archangel."
00:56:29.85\00:56:31.65
Okay, next
question that we have,
00:56:31.69\00:56:32.99
we've got Dennis asking: "Where
did Melchizedek come from?
00:56:33.02\00:56:37.06
It talks about him not
having a father or a mother.
00:56:37.09\00:56:39.29
Does this mean
that he is God himself?"
00:56:39.33\00:56:42.13
Doug: Yeah, when Paul says
that Melchizedek is without
00:56:42.16\00:56:44.93
father and mother, beginning
of days, he's simply making
00:56:44.97\00:56:47.94
a comparison of Melchizedek
when no genealogy is given.
00:56:47.97\00:56:52.57
He appears suddenly in
history and disappears,
00:56:52.61\00:56:55.11
and we don't know
what people he's of.
00:56:55.14\00:56:56.95
He said, "Well, that's like
Christ who is from eternity to
00:56:56.98\00:57:00.78
eternity, has no
beginning or end."
00:57:00.82\00:57:02.85
But Melchizedek
was a real person.
00:57:02.88\00:57:04.69
There's just no citation of
his people or where he went.
00:57:04.72\00:57:08.42
Jëan: "What is the delusion
that God speaks about in 2
00:57:08.46\00:57:11.16
Thessalonians
chapter 2, verse 11,
00:57:11.19\00:57:13.06
where it says, 'They
do not love the truth.
00:57:13.09\00:57:15.30
God sends them a
strong delusion'"?
00:57:15.33\00:57:17.63
Doug: Well, it's probably the
same delusion Jesus warns about
00:57:17.67\00:57:19.97
when He said that
"if it were possible,
00:57:20.00\00:57:21.90
even the very
elect would be deceived.
00:57:21.94\00:57:24.21
The devil and three unclean
spirits come out of the mouth:
00:57:24.24\00:57:27.21
the beast, the
dragon, and the false prophet,
00:57:27.24\00:57:29.58
performing signs and wonders to
deceive the leaders of the world
00:57:29.61\00:57:33.18
and bring them to
that Battle of Armageddon."
00:57:33.21\00:57:35.68
So, the nature of that delusion,
Satan himself we believe is
00:57:35.72\00:57:39.15
going to impersonate
Christ and talks about
00:57:39.19\00:57:41.82
bringing fire down from heaven.
00:57:41.86\00:57:43.16
We don't know exactly what
the particular miracle is but
00:57:43.19\00:57:48.16
that's why it's
going to be a delusion.
00:57:48.20\00:57:49.50
I think it's going to
surprise much of the earth.
00:57:49.53\00:57:52.63
Jëan: All right, and, you
know, I'm looking at the clock,
00:57:52.67\00:57:54.24
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00:57:54.27\00:57:56.97
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