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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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Doug Batchelor: Hello, friends.
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Would you like to
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During his travels in 1298,
Marco Polo spoke of a bird in
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Madagascar that was so big
it could knock over an elephant.
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Three hundred years later, early
Arabian explorers returned from
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the coast of East Africa
with accounts of gigantic
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birds three times
as big as an ostrich.
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At first, their
stories were dismissed as
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fables, but then
they brought evidence:
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huge eggs up to three
feet in circumference.
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They were, indeed, the eggs of
a giant flightless bird from the
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island of Madagascar that would,
thanks to Marco Polo, become
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known as the elephant
bird or Aepyornis maximus.
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The elephant bird,
now extinct, was the
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largest bird
that has ever lived.
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It's estimated to have
weighed up to 1,100 pounds
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and stand up to 11 feet tall.
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The last sighting of
a live bird was in 1649,
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shortly after the
French settled in Madagascar.
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The early natives described
the elephant bird as a shy giant
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that was probably driven to
extinction by people raiding
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their nests for
the extraordinary eggs.
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One of the largest
intact specimens is 35 inches in
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circumference around
its long axis and probably
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had a capacity of
more than 2 gallons.
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I was calculating,
Pastor Ross, that would probably
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be about 150
omelets from one egg.
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It was much bigger
than any dinosaur egg
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that's ever been discovered.
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In fact, some biologists
calculated that these eggs of
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the elephant birds
were the largest examples
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of a single cell to
have ever existed on earth.
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It's sad when such an epic
creature goes extinct but the
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Bible says that some day all the
wicked are going to be extinct
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and the beautiful creatures
are going to be restored.
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Jean Ross: That's
right, Pastor Doug.
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You are talking
about a big bird.
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Of course, you
mentioned ostriches and they
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are big and you've
seen them, I've been in
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Africa, we've gotten
up close to ostriches.
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Actually, I've ridden an ostrich
before, but to imagine a bird
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this size, as described
here, it would be really neat
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to have been able to
see it, but I think the last
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sighting, you
say, was in the 1600s?
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Doug: They think about 1649.
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And, you know, in the pictures
that we just showed for those
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who are watching the video
of the radio program, there was
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actually a picture of a very
young David Attenborough holding
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one of the eggs that
they had kind of pieced it
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back together
from a broken specimen.
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They--you know, they're
out in the desert and it's
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calcium and it lasts
for hundreds of years.
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So they put one
back together and
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they're just
absolutely enormous.
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And they believe this is where
the Arabian legend of what they
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called the Roc, the
R-O-C--it was this giant bird--
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that's where
those legends came from.
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So, there really were
some megafauna, big birds.
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That's where
"Sesame Street" got it, huh?
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Something that used to live.
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But you know, the Bible tells us
that someday the wicked will be
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extinct and all of the
beautiful animals restored.
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And God's going to make
a new heaven and new earth.
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You know, it says,
"Blessed are the meek;
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they will inherit the earth."
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You can read in Psalm 37,
verse 35 and 36: "I've seen
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the wicked in great
power, and spreading
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himself like a
native green tree.
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Yet he passed away, and behold,
he was no more; indeed I sought
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him, but he could not be found."
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Someday he tells us all
the wicked are going to be gone
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and God's going to
create a new heaven, a new
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earth, and, friends,
that's why Jesus came.
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He wants you to be
in that kingdom with Him
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and He's prepared
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And we have a book that talks
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Jean: A book, free offer, is
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Well, Pastor Doug,
before we take our callers,
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we have a number of
folks who are waiting with
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their Bible questions,
let's start with prayer.
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Dear Father, we thank You that
we do have this time once again
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to be able to open
up Your Word and study.
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There is power in the Word and
so, Lord, we just pray for Your
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blessing be with those who
are listening and pray that You
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guide us as we search
the scriptures together.
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And we thank You,
Lord, in Jesus's name, amen.
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Doug: Amen.
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Jean: Okay, well, we're
ready to go to our first caller.
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We've got Pam listening in L.A.
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Pam, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Pam: Good evening,
Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross.
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Doug: Evening.
Thank you for calling.
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Pam: You're welcome.
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My question is, is it okay to
pray to the Holy Spirit, to ask
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the Holy Spirit to
lead me and to guide me?
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Doug: Well, the Holy Spirit
certainly is God the Spirit, you
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know, the Father, Son,
and the Holy Spirit all
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comprise the Godhead,
sometimes called the Trinity.
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And I don't know that there'd
be anything wrong with it.
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But typically, in the Bible,
you've only got a couple of
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examples of people
actually praying to Jesus.
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Usually, prayers are directed
to the Father in Jesus's name.
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And I'm trying to think
of a prayer to the Spirit.
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Well, it says, "The
Spirit and the bride say come."
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That's not really a prayer.
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Can you--I don't know,
Pastor Ross, I can't think
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of someone praying
directly to the Spirit.
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Jean: I don't think so.
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I mean, usually, like you
say, prayers are directed to the
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Father in the name of Christ and
we are praying, asking for the
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Holy Spirit, but not necessarily
praying directly to the Holy
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Spirit, although the Holy
Spirit, the Bible makes it clear
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that He does hear our prayers,
He does intercede, He does move
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upon our hearts to reveal
to us what we need to pray.
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But I was thinking
the one, for example, when
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Stephen was being
stoned, he cried out and
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he prayed, "Lord
Jesus, receive my Spirit."
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So there we have a prayer
to Christ, but I don't know
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if there is a mention
in scripture where it's
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specifically a
prayer to the Holy Spirit.
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Doug: No, you
know, I don't think
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there's anything wrong with it.
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I would, you know, wonder
why would someone want to, as
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opposed to praying to
the Father through Christ
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or even praying to
Jesus, but certainly there's
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nothing wrong with
praying to the Holy Spirit.
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Jean: You know,
we do have a book
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talking about the Holy Spirit.
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It's called, "Life in the
Spirit," and we'll be happy
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to send this to
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The number is 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the book.
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Thank you, Pam.
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We're going to go
to Jeff in Washington.
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Jeff, you're on
"Bible Answers Live."
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Jeff: All right, thank
you for taking my call.
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Doug: Absolutely.
Thank you for calling.
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Jeff: I have a question
about--it has something to do
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with Daniel chapter 9,
the 70-week prophecy, and also
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Daniel chapter 7, verse 25
speaks about this little horn
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power was to seek to change
times and laws and because they
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usurp God's
authority by removing the 70th
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week to a unspecified
time, you know, it's futurism,
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wouldn't that
also be changing times?
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Doug: That's a good point, yeah.
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You know, the beast power is
seen in Daniel chapter 7, also
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in Daniel chapter 8 for that
matter, and in Daniel 9 too.
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It's the early
stages of the beast, anyway.
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And futurism takes the last week
of Daniel 9 and it just sort of
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shifts it down to the end
of time and floats somewhere,
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wherever they want it to be,
you know, wherever they say the
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secret rapture will take place,
that's when that week begins.
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No example of carving up a
prophecy like that and so, yeah,
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they are changing a
time in that respect.
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It also means, of course, that
beast power is establishing new
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holy days and moving
the standing holy day.
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So they're taking
times and laws that
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are holy and
shifting them around.
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But I'd never thought of that.
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What do you think?
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Jean: Yeah, I think any time
you start tampering with the
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Word of God you're in trouble,
and especially that prophecy.
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And what's so beautiful
about the 70 weeks, it actually
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identifies when Christ
would come and it describes His
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ministry and talks
about His death and His
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Resurrection, then His
Ascension, and the gospel going
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out to the
Gentile world in 34 A.D.
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And the sad thing is they take
that last week and they apply it
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to an Antichrist power that they
believe will appear in the last
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seven--you know, during the
Tribulation, these seven years
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of Tribulation,
but it's not biblical.
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It's actually a prophecy
pointing to Jesus, and they take
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that same prophecy and they try
and apply it to an Antichrist
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power at the end,
which is kind of sad.
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Doug: It is, it's heartbreaking.
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Jean: Yeah, it's
an important prophecy.
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It's a great study.
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We do have a study
guide that talks about
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that and it's
called "Right on Time!"
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and it deals with the 70 weeks
of Daniel chapter 9 and we'll be
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happy to send this to
anyone who calls and asks.
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The number is 800-835-6747,
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It's called "Right on Time!"
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Or dial #250 on your
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That's the name of the lesson.
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We'll send it to
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We've got Brittany
listening in California.
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Brittany, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Brittany: Hi, hey.
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Doug: Hi, how are you doing?
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And your question tonight?
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Brittany: Yeah, my
question involves Revelation
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11:19 which says, "Then God's
temple in heaven was opened, and
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within His temple was
seen the ark of the covenant."
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I was wondering how does that
even relate to our time with all
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the endtimes events and
the global outcry with Israel
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and just all the crazy
going ons with--and the
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endtimes events
slowly coming to a head even
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with political
craziness with the president
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and government
and all the madness.
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Doug: Yeah, let me
read this first, Brittany,
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for our friends
that are listening.
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It says, "And then the temple
of God was opened in heaven, and
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the ark of His
covenant was seen in the temple.
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And there were
lightnings, noises, thunderings,
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an earthquake, and great hail."
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Now, looking at other places
in Revelation, just before the
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Second Coming,
there's lightning, noises,
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thunderings,
earthquake, and a great hail.
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Talks about a great
hail falls upon the wicked.
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It's not so much the
ark as what's in the ark.
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The ark is a container for
the law of God, and it tells us
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that, you know, at the
end, the law of God's going to
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be exalted when
something's in heaven.
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It's interesting, Pastor
Ross, Jesus said, "Heaven
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and earth would
have to pass away before
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one tittle of
the law would fail."
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And that's because
man can't take away the
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heavens and there's
a copy up there anyway,
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the heavens will
be open, it's there.
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But there may be some
prophetic significance here.
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What do you think?
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Jean: Yeah, I mean, the whole
passage, you read Revelation
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chapter 11, it talks about the
sounding of the seventh trumpet.
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There's actually several themes
that you find in Revelation 11.
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It talks about the two witnesses
and then, following that, talks
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about the sounding of the
seventh trumpet and it talks
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about the nations
being angry and the time of
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the dead that
they should be judged.
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And then it says, "And I saw the
ark of the covenant in heaven."
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So, this is a description of
an event described in heaven.
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The sounding of the seventh
trumpet, really, historically,
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began at the end of the
2,300 days, which is in 1844.
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We don't have time to get
into all the details, but we're
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living in that special endtime
period, and it's interesting, in
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1844 or shortly thereafter,
it was a significant year.
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Not only religious but
also in scientific advancements.
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Very interesting study
just for the year 1884,
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but after that, people
began to study the Word of God.
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They began to realize
the importance of the Ten
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Commandments, not that we are
saved through obedience to the
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Ten Commandments, but we
are saved in order to obey.
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And they realized
the fourth commandment,
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one that has to
do with the Sabbath.
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So, right around that time, the
law of God was being studied,
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the Word was being studied, the
Second Coming, and it all ties
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into what we read about
under the seventh trumpet.
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Doug: Yeah, it's also, I
think it hearkens back to when,
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on the seventh day, they marched
around the city seven times,
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they blew seven trumpets and the
last--that last trumpet was the
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fall of Jericho and God's
people taking the Promised Land.
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So, you're seeing that
this is what's happening just
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before we get to go
to the Promised Land.
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So, well, good
question. Thank you, Brittany.
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Jean: We've got Gary
listening in Illinois.
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Gary, welcome to the program.
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Gary: How do you do. Doug: Yeah.
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Gary: Seeing that we're
already experiencing prophecy
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come true on climate change and
political perilous times, would
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practicing the great
commission be the most important
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expectation from God?
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Doug: Yeah, you know,
Jesus said, "The gospel of this
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kingdom," this is Matthew 24:14.
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"The gospel of this kingdom will
be preached in all the world for
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a witness."
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That's the Great Commission,
"And then the end will come."
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It's interesting you would
mention what you said about
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what's going on with the
political unrest and the world.
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We just read that
there from Revelation 11
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where it said,
"The nations are angry.
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The time of Your wrath has come,
that the dead should be judged
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and You'll destroy
those who destroy the earth."
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And you know, we see a big
uptick of war right now and war
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on a level
that--more sophisticated man
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gets with
artificial intelligence and the
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weaponry, it
becomes more lethal.
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And, yeah, you just
wonder how much longer.
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Can't be much
longer before Jesus comes.
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But yeah, we
should be emphasizing
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the Great Commission.
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Thank you,
Gary. Appreciate that.
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Jean: All right, we got Bruce
listening in North Carolina.
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Bruce, welcome to the program.
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Bruce: Hello, Pastors.
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I've got--this'll be fast.
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I got two questions.
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What Bible programs do
you two personally use?
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Logos is my go-to
but I also have e-Sword.
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And my second question is, is
when I watch Pastor Doug preach,
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he's got stickers on the
inside cover of his Bible.
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I often wonder how he used
them or what were they for.
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Doug: Yeah, okay, two
good practical questions.
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Yeah, Pastor
Ross and I use Logos.
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I use Logos quite a
bit and I also use e-Sword.
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That's a free
program you can download.
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On our phones we've got--e-Sword
has a phone application.
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The Blue-Letter Bible, Olive
Tree is another good program.
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And then if you're studying the
Bible on the internet, there's
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Bible Gateway, and all of them
have reading through the Bible
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apps where you can
read through the Bible.
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And what was the one you
use for reading out loud?
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Jean: It's called
Dwell. Doug: Dwell?
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Jean: Mm-hm. Doug: And yeah.
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Jean: Bible-reading
program, also an app.
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But you know,
there are different--
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there are some free resources.
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Of course, if one has
Logos, there's--it does
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cost and, depending
which version you have,
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you can spend
quite a bit of money.
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It's very in-depth and it has
a lot of features, but there are
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other free programs,
I think e-Sword is one,
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that you can
really have a great study,
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and it's got the
Strong's Concordance.
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You can look up
different translations,
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you can search a word
in the original language.
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So there's a number of great
features to help in Bible study.
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Doug: And the little
tabs you see when I'm
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preaching, I just--I
buy these at Walmart.
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They're little markers and it
helps me quickly find a passage
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in my Bible and I usually print
my scriptures that I'm going to
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read in the front of my
Bible because when you're doing
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television, time is very
important, very valuable.
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You spend a lot of
money for a minute.
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And so, I try not to
waste a lot of time turning
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pages while
people are just waiting.
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I have it all
ready to go to quickly.
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So I pre-mark things that I know
I'm going to read in advance.
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Thanks. Nice
practical question, Bruce.
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Jean: We've got
Glenn listening in Ohio.
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Glenn, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Glenn: Oh, good evening and
thank you for taking my call.
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Doug: Thank you, Glenn.
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Glenn: In the Bible, there's
a--the parable of the talents
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where a person was
given ten talents, another
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person five talents, and
a third person one talent.
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And as time went
on, they were questioned
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about what they
did with their talents.
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And the ten talents and
five talents, they invested
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them or put
their talents at risk,
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and they were
given bountiful increase.
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The person with the one talent
did not invest his, and not only
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did he lose that talent,
but he ended up with nothing.
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So we're talking about
investing and gambling.
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There's a situation where
someone, the pastors, the board
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puts money aside for
their pastor for their
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retirement and
they invest that money.
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They put that money at
risk in the stock market.
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But then there's
somebody who wants to play
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the lottery and they
put their dollar and buy
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a lottery ticket and
they call that gambling.
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And I was just thinking
the Bible kind of exonerates
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investing your money but
what do the person who is--
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Doug: Buying a lotto ticket.
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Glenn: Investing
in a lottery ticket.
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Doug: Yeah,
that's a good question.
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Glenn: He's using
the baby's milk money.
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I think that that
may be the difference
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between an
investment and gambling.
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If you use the
baby's milk money,
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wherever you use it,
does that make sense?
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Doug: Well, I think I
understand the question, but
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there is a big difference
between playing the lottery.
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Now, if you're gambling, if you
go to a casino or you're playing
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the lottery, your
chances of winning, you've
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got a better chance of
getting struck by lightning.
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It's very, very remote.
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And if you go gamble,
we know that the casinos
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exist because the
house always wins.
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Very few people come
away in the long term
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with money from a casino.
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They usually lose.
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When you're
investing carefully in the
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stock
market--which is what banks do.
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Banks are always
investing in stocks
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and bonds or
treasuries, whatever.
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Over time, the value
of real estate, it goes up
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and down but, in the
long haul, it goes up.
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It's a much,
much safer investment.
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And when Jesus talks about them
investing, you could even, you
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know, put your money in the bank
and you'll get at least minimal
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savings and that's
why Jesus said, "Well,
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you could have at least,"
to the--what did he call?
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The lazy servant?
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He said, "You could
have at least given it
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to the bankers
and gotten interest."
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So God expects us to
invest and trade and grow.
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He wants us to do it wisely.
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I had a friend who's a farmer.
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He said, "Farming's a gamble."
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And we'd all starve
if they didn't do it,
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so usually it pays off,
but sometimes you have a
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bad year and
you can have losses.
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You can have seven years of
plenty and a few years of want.
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So the Lord wants us to invest
and use good judgment, but when
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you get in the realm of
gambling, it's a reckless
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speculation and that, I
think, the Bible condemns.
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Jean: Okay, thank you, Glenn.
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We've got Lee
listening in Texas.
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Lee, you're on the
air. Welcome to the program.
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Lee: Yes, sir, thank you.
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My question for tonight
is are there other signs
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a person has done
the unpardonable sin?
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Doug: Yeah, how do
we know if a person
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has committed
the unpardonable sin?
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Well, for one thing, typically,
they don't hear the voice of the
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Holy Spirit speaking to
them, they don't feel a sense of
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conviction or any desire to
repent and be at peace with God.
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And the devil, I think,
sometimes tries to convince
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people they've committed
the unpardonable sin when they
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haven't and they become
very discouraged and hard on
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themselves and the devil would
like for them to just give up
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hope, but God is almost
always willing to forgive
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a lot more than
we're willing to ask.
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And He's very patient.
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Now, there'll be a time at the
end of time when Christ stands
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up and probation closes and the
saved are saved and the lost are
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lost, but most of the time
if a person is asking about
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committing the unpardonable sin,
they haven't committed it 'cause
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they've got a desire,
a yearning, a conviction,
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of the Spirit
working in their heart.
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Jean: You know, we
have a book called--
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Doug: About the
unpardonable sin.
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Jean: I'm trying
to think what the name
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of the book is, Pastor Doug.
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Doug: I think it used to be
called "Beyond Mercy," and now
00:21:40.96\00:21:42.53
it's just called "What
is the Unpardonable Sin?"
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Jean: There you
go. That's easy enough.
00:21:44.27\00:21:45.63
If you'd like to
receive that and learn more,
00:21:45.67\00:21:47.07
the number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:21:47.10\00:21:50.14
You can just ask for the book.
00:21:50.17\00:21:51.47
It's called, "What is
the Unpardonable Sin?"
00:21:51.51\00:21:53.74
We'll be happy to send it to
anyone in the US or in Canada.
00:21:53.78\00:21:56.61
Again, if you're
outside of North America,
00:21:56.64\00:21:58.15
just visit the
website, AmazingFacts.org.
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Our next caller that we have
is John, listening in Michigan.
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John, welcome to the program.
00:22:04.45\00:22:06.19
Well, actually, it's Aaron.
00:22:06.22\00:22:07.79
Aaron, welcome, from New York.
00:22:07.82\00:22:09.79
Aaron: Good evening,
Pastors. Doug: Evening.
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Aaron: Revelation 21 says
that "There will be a new heaven
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and a new earth, and the first
heaven and the first earth will
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pass away.
00:22:17.37\00:22:18.73
And that the tabernacle of God
is with men, and He will dwell
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with them."
00:22:22.60\00:22:24.21
What I got from this is that God
will leave the heaven where He
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dwells in now and make a
new dwelling place on earth.
00:22:27.81\00:22:31.95
But someone told me that the
first heaven and the first--no,
00:22:31.98\00:22:35.68
the first heaven
is only the atmosphere
00:22:35.72\00:22:38.69
around earth and
God will never leave His
00:22:38.72\00:22:42.36
headquarters
from where it is now.
00:22:42.39\00:22:45.16
Which of these
two ideas is right?
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Doug: Well, when John says,
"The first heaven and earth pass
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away," the Jews had three
words they used for heaven.
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Sometimes, they'd use the
word heaven and they're talking
00:22:55.57\00:22:57.77
about the air where the
clouds are and the birds fly.
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That's in Revelation
where it says, "God separated
00:23:02.18\00:23:04.28
the waters above
from the waters below,
00:23:04.31\00:23:06.65
and He made a
heaven and atmosphere."
00:23:06.68\00:23:09.55
And they called
that the first heaven.
00:23:09.58\00:23:11.02
Second heaven is
where the stars are.
00:23:11.05\00:23:12.55
Third heaven is
where God dwells.
00:23:12.59\00:23:14.16
Paul says, "I was
caught up to the third heaven."
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But in Revelation the context
says he--when he says, "First
00:23:17.36\00:23:20.36
heaven was passed away,"
he's talking about the former.
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The one--the
earth and the heaven
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that existed first is gone.
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So we got a new atmosphere, a
new world, and God, we know He's
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going to dwell with men
'cause it says, "And the
00:23:32.17\00:23:33.68
new Jerusalem comes
down out of heaven."
00:23:33.71\00:23:36.61
God is in the city. God
Himself will dwell with us.
00:23:36.64\00:23:39.75
He's moving the capital of the
universe to our planet because
00:23:39.78\00:23:43.05
we're made in His image
and we will dwell with Him.
00:23:43.08\00:23:46.79
So I think it's
pretty clear that
00:23:46.82\00:23:48.69
God is going to,
ultimately, move.
00:23:48.72\00:23:51.33
Christ has become a human.
00:23:51.36\00:23:52.66
He's joined Himself
forever to our race,
00:23:52.69\00:23:56.23
and He's going to
move down to this world.
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Yeah, that's--you'd
enjoy the free offer
00:24:00.04\00:24:02.14
about "Heaven: Is It for Real?"
that we're offering today.
00:24:02.17\00:24:04.74
Jean: Yeah, that one or
I thought of another one
00:24:04.77\00:24:06.11
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Doug: There you
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Jean: Talks
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00:24:09.04\00:24:10.45
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John, welcome to the program.
00:24:36.57\00:24:38.07
John: Hi, how are you?
Thank you for taking my call.
00:24:38.11\00:24:40.34
I appreciate your
show. It's helped me a lot.
00:24:40.38\00:24:42.88
Doug: Amen, thank you.
00:24:42.91\00:24:44.21
John: My question is
regarding the Sabbath.
00:24:44.25\00:24:46.25
I've--you know, I grew
up Christian school and just
00:24:46.28\00:24:50.25
recently this, you know, Sabbath
awareness came up in--my job
00:24:50.29\00:24:55.92
has, you know, they've switched
my schedule to where I work
00:24:55.96\00:24:58.96
weekends and nights and I'm
having a hard time making the
00:24:58.99\00:25:04.80
transition because I
have so many people relying
00:25:04.83\00:25:07.94
on my income and
I'm just kind of lost.
00:25:07.97\00:25:12.41
Doug: Oh boy, that
sounds like a challenge.
00:25:12.44\00:25:15.04
Well, you know, the first thing
is and I'm not saying it's easy,
00:25:15.08\00:25:19.88
but the first thing is
you have to make up your mind,
00:25:19.91\00:25:22.92
"Am I committed to
obey what God says," whether
00:25:22.95\00:25:26.65
it's the Sabbath
or any commandment.
00:25:26.69\00:25:29.69
And you know,
there'll be pressures.
00:25:29.72\00:25:33.09
Shadrach, Meshach, and
Abednego were pressured.
00:25:33.13\00:25:35.33
They were going to lose their
job and their lives if they did
00:25:35.36\00:25:37.53
not pray to the graven
image or bow before it.
00:25:37.57\00:25:41.00
They said, "We can't do that."
00:25:41.04\00:25:42.44
And Daniel was going to
lose his job and his life
00:25:42.47\00:25:46.14
if he prayed to
anybody but the king.
00:25:46.17\00:25:48.18
That would break
the first commandment,
00:25:48.21\00:25:49.81
"Don't have other gods."
00:25:49.84\00:25:52.21
You need courage also in
keeping the fourth commandment.
00:25:52.25\00:25:55.18
Now what to do is, you know, you
might go to your boss, I don't
00:25:55.22\00:25:58.19
know all the circumstances,
and we can certainly
00:25:58.22\00:26:01.19
pray that God work
things out, but you can just
00:26:01.22\00:26:04.19
tell your boss, you
know, this is a conviction.
00:26:04.23\00:26:06.43
I'm an honest worker but, you
know, I want to keep my Sabbath.
00:26:06.46\00:26:11.23
Fortunately, in North America,
there are a number of laws on
00:26:11.27\00:26:14.17
the book--books,
that help people through,
00:26:14.20\00:26:17.97
or that guide
employers to respect the
00:26:18.01\00:26:20.21
religious
convictions of their employees.
00:26:20.24\00:26:22.98
Now, some circumstances are
different, but I'd just have a
00:26:23.01\00:26:27.22
heart-to-heart or write
a letter with your boss.
00:26:27.25\00:26:29.22
If you walk in, face to face,
is better, and just tell him why
00:26:29.25\00:26:32.42
this is really important to
you and it's creating quite a
00:26:32.45\00:26:35.06
struggle 'cause you love your
job but you love God also and
00:26:35.09\00:26:37.99
you want to keep
His commandments.
00:26:38.03\00:26:39.33
Jean: And, you know,
if you are attending a
00:26:39.36\00:26:40.66
Sabbath-keeping church,
sometimes you can go to the
00:26:40.70\00:26:42.90
pastor there and--I know
we've done it a number of times.
00:26:42.93\00:26:45.57
We'll write a letter on behalf
of that person stating that they
00:26:45.60\00:26:48.40
do attend regularly,
it's the day of worship.
00:26:48.44\00:26:51.77
We, you know,
appreciate their boss or their
00:26:51.81\00:26:54.44
work accommodating
them in any way possible.
00:26:54.48\00:26:57.21
And of course, you need
to be willing to even work at
00:26:57.25\00:26:59.68
different times so that
you can get your Sabbath off.
00:26:59.71\00:27:02.52
Doug: Yeah, very good.
00:27:02.55\00:27:04.42
Thank you for
your question, John.
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I hope that helps a little bit.
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Doug: Welcome back, listening
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Jean: My name is Jean Ross,
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Sam listening in Ohio.
00:31:16.97\00:31:19.11
Sam, welcome to the program.
00:31:19.14\00:31:21.88
Sam: Hi, Pastors.
00:31:21.91\00:31:23.48
Doug: Hi.
00:31:23.51\00:31:25.31
Sam: My question is from
Luke chapter 21, in verse 24.
00:31:25.35\00:31:33.19
The end of that verse says,
"Jerusalem will be trampled by
00:31:33.22\00:31:36.93
Gentiles until the times of
the Gentiles are fulfilled."
00:31:36.96\00:31:42.36
And I was wondering what this
times of the Gentiles means.
00:31:42.40\00:31:47.17
Doug: Yeah, boy, that is
a--that is a great question.
00:31:47.20\00:31:49.37
It's also--the
answer has different
00:31:49.40\00:31:52.77
advocates for different views.
00:31:52.81\00:31:55.28
And it could actually
be one of the examples of
00:31:55.31\00:31:57.25
a dual prophecy,
where there's more than one.
00:31:57.28\00:32:01.22
So, it's very clearly
talking about that Jerusalem,
00:32:01.25\00:32:06.19
right on the surface,
you see the disciples had
00:32:06.22\00:32:07.92
asked Jesus, He said
there would not be one
00:32:07.96\00:32:10.09
stone left upon
another in the temple.
00:32:10.13\00:32:12.33
So the context of His answer,
He's talking about the temple
00:32:12.36\00:32:15.73
being destroyed, the Romans
destroying Jerusalem, the Jews
00:32:15.76\00:32:18.93
being carried off in captivity,
especially in Luke 'cause Luke,
00:32:18.97\00:32:22.97
on the way to the cross, Jesus
tells the women, "Don't cry for
00:32:23.00\00:32:25.64
Me, but cry for yourselves
because," you know, "you'll say,
00:32:25.67\00:32:29.48
'Blessed are the
barren that did not bear.'"
00:32:29.51\00:32:31.35
So He was telling
the people in Jerusalem
00:32:31.38\00:32:33.72
that judgment was coming.
00:32:33.75\00:32:35.98
And so it says Jerusalem would
be trodden by the Gentiles.
00:32:36.02\00:32:38.35
Well, that happened.
00:32:38.39\00:32:39.69
The Romans took it
and it bounced around
00:32:39.72\00:32:41.32
between the
Crusaders and the Arabs and
00:32:41.36\00:32:43.16
everybody in
between, and the English.
00:32:43.19\00:32:45.99
Until, miracle of
miracles, 1948, they
00:32:46.03\00:32:50.27
became an
independent nation again.
00:32:50.30\00:32:52.73
So I think right on
the surface, historically,
00:32:52.77\00:32:54.80
you see
something happening here.
00:32:54.84\00:32:56.47
But then there's those who say
Jerusalem being trodden by the
00:32:56.50\00:33:00.38
Gentiles is also
talking about the persecution
00:33:00.41\00:33:02.51
of the church and the
ultimate liberation of
00:33:02.54\00:33:05.18
the new Jerusalem and
victory over the evil.
00:33:05.21\00:33:08.42
So, it could mean
both and I don't know if
00:33:08.45\00:33:13.36
you have any
thoughts on that, Pastor Ross?
00:33:13.39\00:33:14.76
Jean: I agree.
00:33:14.79\00:33:16.02
I think it's definitely--it just
seems, just reading it as it is,
00:33:16.06\00:33:19.03
talking about literal Jerusalem,
it's talking about the literal
00:33:19.06\00:33:21.66
destruction in 70 A.D.,
and it's talking about the
00:33:21.70\00:33:24.37
Gentiles, until their
time be fulfilled, and
00:33:24.40\00:33:26.47
historically we can
see, yes, that did occur.
00:33:26.50\00:33:29.04
The Jews are back in
Jerusalem, back in Israel.
00:33:29.07\00:33:32.17
But yeah, there could be
a broader application as you
00:33:32.21\00:33:34.28
mentioned, a
spiritual connection there.
00:33:34.31\00:33:36.21
We've got Susie
listening in California.
00:33:36.24\00:33:37.75
Susie, welcome to the program.
00:33:37.78\00:33:39.38
Susie: Hello.
Good evening, Pastors.
00:33:39.41\00:33:41.32
Doug: Evening.
00:33:41.35\00:33:42.85
Susie: And thank
you for taking my call.
00:33:42.88\00:33:44.72
My question is can I be
saved without reading my Bible?
00:33:44.75\00:33:49.09
Because a lot of
my church leaders had
00:33:49.12\00:33:51.26
told me that
Bible couldn't save me.
00:33:51.29\00:33:54.36
Doug: Well, you know,
what we're saved by is faith in
00:33:54.36\00:33:58.43
Jesus, and the Bible
says, "Faith comes by
00:33:58.47\00:34:02.07
hearing, and
hearing by the Word of God."
00:34:02.10\00:34:04.87
Now, back when Paul wrote that,
not everybody could read but
00:34:04.91\00:34:08.34
some could, and everyone could
hear, with the few exceptions of
00:34:08.38\00:34:12.15
people that were deaf, and so
it's saying that, you know, as
00:34:12.18\00:34:15.68
we read and/or hear the Word of
God, there's power in His Word.
00:34:15.72\00:34:20.26
If a person's not able to read,
maybe they can hear it read.
00:34:20.29\00:34:25.43
Fortunately, today, there's a
lot of different apps where the
00:34:25.46\00:34:27.96
Bible can read to you
or you can find, you know,
00:34:27.96\00:34:31.37
apps and things
that'll read the Bible.
00:34:31.40\00:34:33.30
But the Bible keeps us from sin,
the Bible shows us the character
00:34:33.34\00:34:37.57
of Christ, Jesus is revealed in
the Word, and so it's, you know,
00:34:37.61\00:34:42.51
I can't understate the
importance of the Word of God
00:34:42.54\00:34:45.48
to both bring us
conviction and comfort with
00:34:45.51\00:34:47.38
the Holy Spirit
speaking through it.
00:34:47.42\00:34:50.05
So am I answering
what you're asking?
00:34:50.09\00:34:53.02
Susie: Should I
continue to read my Bible then?
00:34:53.05\00:34:55.62
Doug: Absolutely, yeah.
00:34:55.66\00:34:58.39
Susie: What I was
conscious about, you know, my
00:34:58.43\00:35:02.20
church leader, she
told me about that.
00:35:02.23\00:35:05.60
Doug: What did the leader tell
you, not to read your Bible?
00:35:05.63\00:35:08.27
Susie: Yeah,
because he cannot save
00:35:08.30\00:35:09.60
me--it couldn't save me.
00:35:09.64\00:35:11.27
My Bible cannot save me.
00:35:11.31\00:35:12.94
That's what she told me.
00:35:12.97\00:35:14.28
Doug: Well, you know,
if you've got a church
00:35:14.31\00:35:15.61
leader telling you
not to read your Bible,
00:35:15.64\00:35:17.11
I'd be looking
for another church.
00:35:17.15\00:35:19.61
The--yeah.
00:35:19.65\00:35:21.75
Christ is
revealed through the Word.
00:35:21.78\00:35:24.15
The Bible's the
foundation for what we believe.
00:35:24.19\00:35:26.92
God speaks to us
through His Word.
00:35:26.96\00:35:28.76
We are saved
because of what we read in
00:35:28.79\00:35:30.16
the Word and faith in it.
00:35:30.19\00:35:31.83
So in many ways it's the Word
that saves us and reading the
00:35:31.86\00:35:36.16
Bible, like I said,
can't be saved without faith,
00:35:36.20\00:35:38.93
and faith comes
by hearing the Word.
00:35:38.97\00:35:40.80
Jean: And when
Jesus was tempted and He's
00:35:40.84\00:35:42.20
our example, He
quoted from scripture.
00:35:42.24\00:35:44.27
He said, "It is
written, it is written."
00:35:44.31\00:35:45.84
So if He read the Word,
Revelation, the last book of the
00:35:45.87\00:35:48.18
Bible, says, "Blessed is he
who reads and those who hear the
00:35:48.21\00:35:51.71
words of this prophecy, and keep
those things which are written
00:35:51.75\00:35:54.88
therein," so for a Christian,
one who is able to read the
00:35:54.92\00:35:57.85
Word, they need
to read the Word.
00:35:57.89\00:36:00.19
Matter of fact,
when the Word is read,
00:36:00.22\00:36:02.32
there usually follows a revival.
00:36:02.36\00:36:04.29
For example, the
Protestant Reformation when
00:36:04.33\00:36:05.83
they were able to translate
the Bible into the language
00:36:05.86\00:36:08.13
of the common people, there
was a revival that took place.
00:36:08.16\00:36:11.27
So there's power in
the reading of the Word.
00:36:11.30\00:36:12.60
Doug: Absolutely.
00:36:12.63\00:36:13.94
We're encouraging all of
our friends and members of our
00:36:13.97\00:36:16.47
church to get into a
Bible-reading program.
00:36:16.50\00:36:19.01
Read through
the Bible in a year,
00:36:19.04\00:36:20.44
and it just
strengthens your faith.
00:36:20.48\00:36:22.14
Jean: All right,
thank you, Susie.
00:36:22.18\00:36:23.48
We've got Robert
listening in Washington.
00:36:23.51\00:36:25.78
Robert, welcome to the program.
00:36:25.81\00:36:27.35
Robert: Hi there.
00:36:27.38\00:36:28.68
Doug: Hi. Robert: Hello.
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I'm just wanting
to know, I guess, had
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the people note
about Psalms 1:1 to 3.
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I just was wanting to know if
you could explain that a little
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bit more like about the counsel
of the ungodly, the sitting in
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the--or standing in the path
of sinners, and the other one--
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Jean: The seat of the scornful.
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Robert: I was
wanting to know if you
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could explain
that a little bit more.
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Doug: Sure, yeah, we'll
take a--it's a great verse.
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We'll do our best
to quickly expound it.
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And this is from Psalms, the
first Psalm, written by David,
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verse 1 to 3, "Blessed is the
man who walks not in the counsel
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of the ungodly, nor stands in
the path of sinners, nor sits in
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the seat of the scornful; but
his delight is in the law of the
00:37:17.17\00:37:20.40
Lord, and in His law he
meditates day and night.
00:37:20.44\00:37:24.01
He will be like a tree planted
by the rivers of water, that
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brings forth its fruit in
season, whose leaf will not
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wither; and whatever
he doeth shall prosper."
00:37:30.45\00:37:33.52
So it's talking about
someone that they don't--
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first, you
notice, they're walking.
00:37:36.02\00:37:37.62
And then they're standing.
00:37:37.65\00:37:39.02
It's like they're walking
by, and then they're standing
00:37:39.05\00:37:40.69
listening, and then
ultimately, they're sitting.
00:37:40.72\00:37:42.62
And when you're walking by
and you see the ungodly, keep
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walking 'cause if you
stand and listen, pretty
00:37:46.16\00:37:48.30
soon you're
sitting with the scornful.
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It's like a progression.
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And it says that we should flee
temptation, walk away from it,
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or actually, run from it like
Joseph ran from Potiphar's wife.
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But this person, they will not
walk, they will not stand, they
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will not sit, with the scorners,
the sinners, the ungodly.
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But their delight is
the opposite of the ungodly,
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the law of the Lord,
the truth, the Word of God.
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And they meditate
on it, day and night.
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Moses said surround
ourselves with the Word of God.
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And then, pictures him
as a tree planted in the
00:38:19.86\00:38:22.63
wilderness, and I
used to live in a desert.
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It was easy to find
the oasis in the desert
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'cause it's the only green spot.
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If that tree--it can be in a
desert, but if it's got a stream
00:38:30.71\00:38:33.54
of water by it,
it will flourish.
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It's got a
continual flow of nourishment.
00:38:36.14\00:38:38.41
And so, God
promises that for those that
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delight in His
law and turn from sin.
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Jean: You know, we have a book.
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We've got--who do we
have next? Let's see.
00:39:16.62\00:39:18.89
We've got Jean in
Connecticut. There we go.
00:39:18.92\00:39:23.83
Jean, welcome to the program.
00:39:23.86\00:39:25.36
Jean: Hi, Pastor
Doug, Pastor Ross, thank
00:39:25.39\00:39:28.40
you very much
for--and take my call.
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Doug: Yeah, your question?
00:39:31.73\00:39:33.40
Jean: Yes, sorry.
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I'm asking about Revelation
11, specifically verse 2.
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I'm just wondering what
the holy city in--the verse
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is referring to, and
what does it mean when the
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outer temple is being
given to the Gentiles?
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Doug: Yeah, well,
I'll tell you a little bit
00:39:55.76\00:39:57.33
and then Pastor
Ross will pick it up.
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Probably 50% of Revelation is
drawing from the prophets in the
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Old Testament, namely Zechariah,
Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel.
00:40:07.04\00:40:12.04
There's a passage in
the end of Ezekiel where
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Ezekiel is told
to measure a temple.
00:40:14.94\00:40:18.41
And a lot of people
wonder, "What is this temple?
00:40:18.45\00:40:20.82
And it was never
built and why was this
00:40:20.85\00:40:22.32
temple that he
measures never built?"
00:40:22.35\00:40:24.39
Well, you get to the New
Testament, Jesus said, "Destroy
00:40:24.42\00:40:27.76
this temple made with hands and
I will make one without hands,"
00:40:27.79\00:40:30.79
and He spoke of
His body, the church.
00:40:30.83\00:40:33.06
And so the
measuring of the temple is not
00:40:33.09\00:40:35.86
talking about
measuring bricks up in heaven.
00:40:35.90\00:40:38.73
It's talking about an evaluation
or judgment of God's people.
00:40:38.77\00:40:42.27
Jean: Yeah, absolutely.
00:40:42.30\00:40:43.61
And if you look
at it says, "Measure
00:40:43.64\00:40:45.57
the temple but
leave out the court."
00:40:45.61\00:40:47.64
There were three
parts of the temple.
00:40:47.68\00:40:49.08
You had the
courtyard and then you had the
00:40:49.11\00:40:50.91
holy and you had
the most holy place.
00:40:50.95\00:40:52.55
The courtyard
represents the earth,
00:40:52.58\00:40:54.78
that's where the
lamb was sacrificed.
00:40:54.82\00:40:56.38
Jesus came to the earth,
He died for our sins, He's
00:40:56.42\00:40:58.95
the Lamb of God that takes
away the sins of the world.
00:40:58.99\00:41:00.99
But then Christ arose
and He ascended to heaven,
00:41:01.02\00:41:03.32
there to minister as
our priest, our high priest.
00:41:03.36\00:41:06.66
Well, that ministry of the
priest was in the holy and the
00:41:06.70\00:41:09.13
most holy place, after
the sacrifice had been made.
00:41:09.16\00:41:12.10
So when it says, "Leave
out the court," it's referring
00:41:12.13\00:41:14.37
to the earth, and it
says the Gentiles would
00:41:14.40\00:41:16.94
tread it
underfoot for 42 months.
00:41:16.97\00:41:19.54
Well, that is an
interesting time period there.
00:41:19.57\00:41:21.21
That's 1,260 days.
00:41:21.24\00:41:24.21
There were 30 days
in a Hebrew month and
00:41:24.25\00:41:26.15
you do the math,
42 times 30, 1,260.
00:41:26.18\00:41:29.72
So you've got a time period of
1,260 years, one prophetic day
00:41:29.75\00:41:33.39
equals one literal year, and
that time period actually met
00:41:33.42\00:41:36.52
its fulfillment during the
Dark Ages where the truths of
00:41:36.56\00:41:39.73
Christ's high priestly ministry
was being substituted by manmade
00:41:39.76\00:41:43.16
traditions, by the established
church, but at the end of that
00:41:43.20\00:41:46.97
time period, 1798, and then
leading into 1800s, you had the
00:41:47.00\00:41:51.17
Reformation, you had the
Word of God being translated,
00:41:51.21\00:41:54.04
and that really culminated
in the study of the Word
00:41:54.08\00:41:56.31
of God and the truths of
Christ's high priestly ministry.
00:41:56.34\00:41:59.21
So that, that's also a
reference to that 1,260 or
00:41:59.25\00:42:02.88
42 months time period that
you read about in that verse.
00:42:02.92\00:42:05.85
Doug: Yeah.
00:42:05.89\00:42:07.19
Well, I think our lesson
that talks about the Antichrist
00:42:07.22\00:42:08.99
talks about that
time period, and maybe
00:42:09.02\00:42:14.13
our brother would
be interested in that.
00:42:14.20\00:42:15.96
Jean: Absolutely,
just call and ask.
00:42:16.00\00:42:17.43
It's called, "Who
Is the Antichrist?"
00:42:17.47\00:42:18.77
That's the name of the lesson.
00:42:18.80\00:42:20.10
The number is
800-835-6747, and you can
00:42:20.14\00:42:23.64
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00:42:30.41\00:42:33.58
All right, thank you.
00:42:33.62\00:42:34.92
And next caller that we
have is T.C. in Arizona.
00:42:34.95\00:42:38.42
T.C., welcome to the program.
00:42:38.45\00:42:41.09
T.C.: Thank you, gentlemen.
00:42:41.12\00:42:42.42
I appreciate it,
Pastor Doug and Pastor Jean.
00:42:42.46\00:42:45.93
My question is we celebrate
Jesus's birthday every year in
00:42:45.96\00:42:50.37
wintertime, but the Bible
plainly states that He was born
00:42:50.40\00:42:54.27
during the first census
which would be in the fall.
00:42:54.30\00:42:58.41
Why do we celebrate, even as
Christians, the birth of Christ
00:42:58.44\00:43:03.48
in the winter when
He was born in the fall?
00:43:03.51\00:43:06.85
Doug: Well, you're
absolutely correct.
00:43:06.88\00:43:08.72
There are three
reasons in the Bible and
00:43:08.75\00:43:13.15
one you just
stated from history.
00:43:13.19\00:43:14.92
Now, of course, we know
that Mary and Joseph came
00:43:14.96\00:43:17.19
down during the
census of Augustus Caesar.
00:43:17.23\00:43:20.90
Well, the date for the census is
not in the Bible but the history
00:43:20.93\00:43:23.83
does have that date and they
did not issue the census in the
00:43:23.87\00:43:27.57
middle of winter
when people would be
00:43:27.60\00:43:28.97
traveling during the
worst time of the year.
00:43:29.00\00:43:31.31
It says shepherds, of
course, were in their fields.
00:43:31.34\00:43:35.01
They wouldn't be in the fields
in the coldest time in Jerusalem
00:43:35.04\00:43:38.08
or Bethlehem, and
then it also tells us that
00:43:38.11\00:43:43.08
Jesus began His
ministry when He was 30.
00:43:43.12\00:43:46.09
He ministered three and a
half years, and He died in
00:43:46.12\00:43:48.26
the Passover, so
He dies in spring.
00:43:48.29\00:43:51.03
You go back 33 and 1/2 years,
that means He's born in the
00:43:51.06\00:43:54.00
fall, so it's really
clear that Christ was born, we
00:43:54.00\00:43:56.90
don't know the date,
but sometime in the fall.
00:43:56.93\00:43:59.30
So here's the question: if a
Christian knows that He's born
00:43:59.33\00:44:03.77
in the fall, we don't know
exact date, most of the world is
00:44:03.81\00:44:06.88
recognizing the birth of Christ
in December and, of course, you
00:44:06.91\00:44:12.31
know, if you go to southern
hemisphere, December's hot.
00:44:12.35\00:44:14.78
It depends on where you are.
00:44:14.82\00:44:16.12
Some places, it's
not a white Christmas.
00:44:16.15\00:44:18.25
So the real question is are you
supporting paganism by doing it
00:44:18.29\00:44:25.83
in a date that has some pagan
trappings or can you use it as a
00:44:25.86\00:44:31.00
witnessing opportunity
'cause the world is thinking
00:44:31.03\00:44:33.13
about the birth of Christ
and exploit it for Christ to
00:44:33.17\00:44:36.77
try and make
something good of it?
00:44:36.81\00:44:38.24
I'd say that's one of
those issues that a person
00:44:38.27\00:44:40.14
needs to just decide and
feel comfortable about it.
00:44:40.18\00:44:44.11
If they're grieved that
it's wrong, don't do it.
00:44:44.15\00:44:47.08
Jean: You know, I think one
of the things too about the 25th
00:44:47.12\00:44:49.32
of December, I think it's,
you know, we know Christ was not
00:44:49.35\00:44:52.15
born on the 25th of December,
and I don't think it's right to
00:44:52.19\00:44:55.19
treat that as a
holy day or a sacred day.
00:44:55.22\00:44:58.16
But around that time of
the year when people are
00:44:58.19\00:44:59.96
thinking about the birth
of Christ, you can know--
00:45:00.06\00:45:02.96
probably good to
take advantage of that.
00:45:03.00\00:45:05.03
And we do a concert
around that time of the year
00:45:05.07\00:45:08.44
where we sing the
Christmas carols and we have--
00:45:08.47\00:45:10.41
Doug: Invite the neighbors and--
00:45:10.44\00:45:11.74
Jean: Yeah,
invite friends to come.
00:45:11.77\00:45:13.07
People are open to it
at that time of the year.
00:45:13.11\00:45:14.84
Great opportunity for sharing
and witnessing and, of course,
00:45:14.88\00:45:17.65
it is a very significant
event that Jesus was born,
00:45:17.68\00:45:20.68
so there's nothing
wrong in singing about it.
00:45:20.72\00:45:23.39
But that doesn't mean
that there's something
00:45:23.42\00:45:24.99
holy about the 25th of December.
00:45:25.02\00:45:26.55
Doug: Always feels a
little funny to preach
00:45:26.59\00:45:28.02
about the birth
of Jesus in July.
00:45:28.06\00:45:31.03
Jean: Yeah, it would feel
a little odd, wouldn't it?
00:45:31.06\00:45:32.76
Doug: It'd just feel like
it's out of sync, somehow.
00:45:32.79\00:45:35.70
But nothing wrong
with that, technically.
00:45:35.73\00:45:37.83
I don't know if that helps.
00:45:37.87\00:45:39.17
We do have a book
called "Baptized Paganism,"
00:45:39.20\00:45:41.94
that talks about some
of the pagan trappings of
00:45:41.97\00:45:43.71
these things and you
might enjoy that, T.C.
00:45:43.74\00:45:46.17
Jean: The
number is 800-835-6747,
00:45:46.21\00:45:49.04
and you can ask for the book.
00:45:49.08\00:45:50.38
It's called,
"Baptized Paganism."
00:45:50.41\00:45:52.38
Dial #250 on
your smartphone, say
00:45:52.41\00:45:55.08
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00:45:55.12\00:45:57.62
And Anastacia is in Canada.
00:45:57.65\00:46:00.26
Welcome to the
program, Anastacia.
00:46:00.29\00:46:02.36
Anastacia: Hi, my
question is about when Elijah
00:46:02.39\00:46:04.83
was on Mount Horeb
and he fled from Jezebel.
00:46:04.86\00:46:08.40
She was threatening to kill him.
00:46:08.43\00:46:09.73
Okay, so my question
is, is that who was in the
00:46:09.76\00:46:15.24
earthquake, the fire, and
the wind, if it wasn't the Lord?
00:46:15.27\00:46:18.74
And I know there's a deeper
meaning to that story, and I
00:46:18.77\00:46:20.98
just don't know what it is,
so can you explain it to me?
00:46:21.01\00:46:23.85
Doug: Yeah, well, just
for our friends listening,
00:46:23.88\00:46:25.65
let me give you
the background so we
00:46:25.68\00:46:27.12
understand the
question Anastacia's asking.
00:46:27.15\00:46:30.49
Elijah gets frightened
when Jezebel threatens
00:46:30.52\00:46:32.92
his life after this
Mount Carmel experience.
00:46:32.95\00:46:35.89
He ends up going
through the wilderness all the
00:46:35.92\00:46:37.69
way back to Mount
Sinai where Moses had gone.
00:46:37.73\00:46:42.43
And by the way, it's interesting
that Moses spent 40 days, 40
00:46:42.46\00:46:46.97
nights up on Mount
Sinai, Elijah spends 40 days
00:46:47.00\00:46:49.64
and 40 nights going
to Mount Sinai, and Jesus
00:46:49.67\00:46:51.94
spends 40 days and 40
nights in the wilderness.
00:46:51.97\00:46:55.04
And up on the
mountain, the Lord speaks to him
00:46:55.08\00:46:57.85
and, while he's
there, there's an earthquake.
00:46:57.88\00:47:00.12
It says, "The Lord was
not in the earthquake."
00:47:00.15\00:47:02.12
And there's a fire, and
"the Lord was not in the fire."
00:47:02.15\00:47:03.79
And there's a great wind.
00:47:03.82\00:47:05.12
Then he says, "The
Lord is not in the wind."
00:47:05.15\00:47:06.49
But then there's a still small
voice, and God is speaking to
00:47:06.52\00:47:09.89
him through the
still small voice and
00:47:09.92\00:47:11.56
saying, "Elijah,
what are you doing here?"
00:47:11.59\00:47:13.36
And I think he's saying there
that sometimes, you know, we
00:47:13.40\00:47:17.83
look for God to speak through
dramatic events, and the Spirit
00:47:17.87\00:47:22.84
typically speaks to us
in a still small voice.
00:47:22.87\00:47:25.84
Elijah had just come from a fire
coming down from heaven and the
00:47:25.87\00:47:29.98
slaughter of the prophets of
Baal and a great rainstorm after
00:47:30.01\00:47:33.18
a drought and all these, and
he's saying, "You know, it's the
00:47:33.21\00:47:36.15
Holy Spirit that
changes people's hearts.
00:47:36.18\00:47:38.62
It's not going to
be the fire and rain."
00:47:38.65\00:47:41.26
Jean: And you know, I
think absolutely, Pastor.
00:47:41.29\00:47:42.76
Just another thought
on that, he was somewhat
00:47:42.79\00:47:44.69
discouraged 'cause he
thought he was the only one.
00:47:44.73\00:47:46.59
I mean, he'd already had the
Mount Carmel experience and then
00:47:46.63\00:47:48.93
Jezebel is threatening
his life and he was wondering,
00:47:48.96\00:47:51.47
"Man, am I the only one
that still worships the Lord?"
00:47:51.50\00:47:54.77
And God said,
"No, I've got 7,000
00:47:54.80\00:47:56.71
that haven't
bowed the knee to Baal."
00:47:56.74\00:47:58.21
And we might not always see God
working, but the Spirit of God
00:47:58.24\00:48:02.48
is working, and He's
working in a powerful way.
00:48:02.51\00:48:04.91
But maybe not with open
display. Sometimes there is.
00:48:04.95\00:48:08.88
I mean, fire is also a symbol
of the Holy Spirit, the wind is
00:48:08.92\00:48:11.05
also a symbol of the Holy
Spirit, but it's through that
00:48:11.09\00:48:13.56
still small voice,
through the convicting voice
00:48:13.59\00:48:16.12
of the Spirit to the conscience
that lives are changed.
00:48:16.16\00:48:18.93
Doug: Yeah, and he
didn't need to be afraid of an
00:48:18.96\00:48:21.70
earthquake or a fire or a
mighty wind if God was with him,
00:48:21.73\00:48:25.37
and he didn't need
to be afraid of Jezebel.
00:48:25.40\00:48:27.14
Jean: That's right.
00:48:27.17\00:48:28.47
Doug: Yeah, so that
was part of the message.
00:48:28.50\00:48:29.87
Good question.
Appreciate that, Anastacia.
00:48:29.90\00:48:32.34
All right, who's
next, Pastor Ross?
00:48:32.37\00:48:33.84
Jean: We've got
Marlon in Tennessee.
00:48:33.88\00:48:35.18
Marlon, welcome to the program.
00:48:35.21\00:48:38.38
Marlon: Oh, hi,
Pastors. Doug: Hi.
00:48:38.41\00:48:41.02
Marlon: Pastor Jean
Ross and Pastor Doug
00:48:41.05\00:48:43.12
Batchelor, thanks
for taking my question.
00:48:43.15\00:48:45.35
So my question, I just googled,
like, what does the Bible think
00:48:45.39\00:48:51.19
about or behaving like
or living like a sloth?
00:48:51.23\00:48:55.70
Doug: Yeah, well, the
scriptures actually have quite a
00:48:55.73\00:48:59.80
bit to say about
the importance of work.
00:48:59.83\00:49:03.07
You know, we talk from time
to time on the program about the
00:49:03.10\00:49:05.51
Sabbath and folks think about
the day of rest, but part of
00:49:05.54\00:49:08.91
that commandment says,
"Six days thou shalt work."
00:49:08.94\00:49:11.78
They always think
about the "Thou shall not
00:49:11.81\00:49:13.68
work on the seventh
day," but they forget,
00:49:13.72\00:49:15.18
"Thou shalt work
on the six days."
00:49:15.22\00:49:17.15
So, God wants us to be working,
and you can read in Proverbs
00:49:17.19\00:49:23.49
18:9: "He who is slothful
in his work is a brother
00:49:23.53\00:49:27.50
to him who is a
great destroyer."
00:49:27.50\00:49:29.83
And so, the Bible has a great
deal to say about industry and
00:49:29.86\00:49:36.04
being a worker and not
to be lazy or slothful.
00:49:36.07\00:49:40.54
The King James uses the word
slothful, because, of course,
00:49:40.58\00:49:42.34
a sloth is a very
slow-moving creature, and so it
00:49:42.38\00:49:45.68
became sort of a
metaphor for someone who's lazy.
00:49:45.71\00:49:48.95
Jean: And here's a verse,
00:49:48.98\00:49:50.29
2 Thessalonians
chapter 3, verse 10.
00:49:50.32\00:49:52.39
And it says, "For if anyone will
not work, neither shall he eat."
00:49:52.42\00:49:55.76
Doug: Yeah.
00:49:55.79\00:49:57.09
Jean: So, yes, it's
good to work, right?
00:49:57.13\00:49:58.69
It's good to provide for
your needs and the needs of
00:49:58.73\00:50:00.73
your family, so it's
commendable in scripture.
00:50:00.76\00:50:04.23
All right, we've got Susan
listening in South Carolina.
00:50:04.27\00:50:06.50
Susan, welcome to the program.
00:50:06.53\00:50:09.57
Susan: Thanks. Hi,
Pastor Doug and Pastor Jean.
00:50:09.60\00:50:11.57
I hope you're
doing okay tonight?
00:50:11.61\00:50:13.54
Doug: Thanks for calling.
00:50:13.58\00:50:14.88
Susan: My question
is--I had a customer
00:50:14.91\00:50:17.11
ask me this
question the other day.
00:50:17.15\00:50:18.95
Why did Adam wait until after
the fall to name Eve, "Eve"?
00:50:18.98\00:50:23.85
He called her
Woman in the beginning,
00:50:23.89\00:50:26.19
and then after the
Fall he called her Eve.
00:50:26.22\00:50:28.92
Doug: Well, I think he actually
named her before the Fall.
00:50:28.96\00:50:31.96
It's not recorded
until after there, but Adam's
00:50:31.99\00:50:36.20
the one who named
all the creatures.
00:50:36.23\00:50:37.53
God gives Eve to Adam, so He
takes her from his rib or makes
00:50:37.57\00:50:43.00
her from the rib, on the
sixth--the day of creation, and
00:50:43.04\00:50:47.21
I'm assuming that he gave
her her name before the Fall.
00:50:47.24\00:50:52.58
We don't know, the Fall may have
happened a month after Creation.
00:50:52.61\00:50:55.25
He probably didn't
wait a month before
00:50:55.28\00:50:56.58
he said, "What's
your name, by the way?"
00:50:56.62\00:50:58.32
You know, "You're my
wife, what's your name?"
00:50:58.35\00:51:00.56
So I think it's just stating it
as after-fact, that, oh yeah, by
00:51:00.59\00:51:04.23
the way, the name that he
gave to the woman was Eve.
00:51:04.26\00:51:07.50
But the Bible often does that.
00:51:07.50\00:51:09.66
It gives the details
later, after the headlines.
00:51:09.70\00:51:13.47
So, any thoughts on that?
00:51:13.50\00:51:15.77
Jean: Yeah, it's, you know,
where Adam I think where it
00:51:15.80\00:51:18.44
talks about a
woman, of course, when Eve
00:51:18.47\00:51:20.01
came to Adam, he
said, "This is now woman."
00:51:20.04\00:51:22.41
But then when God came,
looking for Adam and Eve,
00:51:22.44\00:51:24.45
and God says, you
know, "Why are you hiding?
00:51:24.48\00:51:28.18
Did you eat of the
tree I told you not to eat?"
00:51:28.22\00:51:29.98
And then he says, "Well,
the woman that You gave me."
00:51:30.02\00:51:33.05
Doesn't use her name
"Eve." He says, "The woman."
00:51:33.09\00:51:35.46
And then, of course,
afterwards, you discover, yeah,
00:51:35.49\00:51:37.43
the reason her
name is Eve is because
00:51:37.46\00:51:39.56
she's the mother of
everyone else, right?
00:51:39.59\00:51:42.03
She gave birth to the
human race from there on.
00:51:42.06\00:51:44.70
Doug: And by the
way, he calls her Eve
00:51:44.73\00:51:46.37
before she's
had her first child.
00:51:46.40\00:51:48.20
Jean: Right.
00:51:48.24\00:51:49.54
Doug: So, I think she
had that name, sixth day.
00:51:49.57\00:51:51.97
Jean: Before, yeah.
00:51:52.01\00:51:53.31
All right, great.
Doug: Good question.
00:51:53.34\00:51:54.78
That's a
first-time question, I think.
00:51:54.81\00:51:56.64
Jean: Yeah, we've got Terry
listening in South Carolina.
00:51:56.68\00:51:58.91
Terry, welcome to the program.
00:51:58.95\00:52:00.52
Terry: Hey, Pastor Doug,
Pastor Ross, how you all doing?
00:52:00.55\00:52:02.42
Doug: Good.
00:52:02.45\00:52:03.75
Terry: Thanks
for taking my call.
00:52:03.79\00:52:05.09
All right, so my
question is when do you become
00:52:05.12\00:52:08.59
specifically responsible
for a prophet's message?
00:52:08.62\00:52:13.16
For example, you know, John
taught baptism but you couldn't
00:52:13.19\00:52:16.36
necessarily find
that in the Old Testament.
00:52:16.40\00:52:18.37
So what if I
said, "You know what?
00:52:18.40\00:52:19.80
I'm just going to keep
taking my lamb to the temple"?
00:52:19.83\00:52:22.67
And then you had the instance
where he didn't perform any
00:52:22.70\00:52:27.18
miracles and the other thing
was he told his disciples, "Hey,
00:52:27.21\00:52:32.25
this is the Lamb of God that'll
take away the sin of the world,"
00:52:32.28\00:52:34.98
but then a couple of weeks
later he was, like, "Hey, can
00:52:35.02\00:52:36.72
y'all go and check and
make sure that's the right guy?"
00:52:36.75\00:52:39.39
So let's say I was kind of
on the fence and I was like,
00:52:39.42\00:52:43.02
"You know, I like John
but I'm just not sure."
00:52:43.06\00:52:45.93
So what are y'all thoughts
on a situation like that,
00:52:45.96\00:52:48.96
as opposed to when we
can look and read everything
00:52:49.00\00:52:51.80
and see everything they
did but what if we was in
00:52:51.83\00:52:53.97
real time and you
had to make a decision?
00:52:54.00\00:52:57.31
Doug: Yeah, I was going to
say it still happens even in our
00:52:57.34\00:52:59.07
time where truths are presented
that we listen to and we may be
00:52:59.11\00:53:03.75
convicted and at what
point are you guilty for
00:53:03.78\00:53:07.38
not responding when
you hear some new truth?
00:53:07.42\00:53:10.15
Pastor Ross and I do evangelism.
00:53:10.19\00:53:11.62
As we're preaching, we, you
know, preach things that people
00:53:11.65\00:53:14.19
thought, "Wow, I've never
thought about that before."
00:53:14.22\00:53:16.42
We can't be their conscience but
the way I understand it is once
00:53:16.46\00:53:19.56
a person understands a
truth and the Holy Spirit
00:53:19.59\00:53:24.70
convicts them that
it is truth, then they
00:53:24.73\00:53:27.07
should not resist
the voice of the Spirit.
00:53:27.10\00:53:29.10
I'm sure when John
was preaching, the power
00:53:29.14\00:53:32.14
of the Spirit was
present in his preaching.
00:53:32.17\00:53:34.88
I mean, the crowds all
swarmed out, and Jesus even said
00:53:34.91\00:53:37.78
to the scribes and Pharisees,
you know, "The message
00:53:37.81\00:53:40.25
from John, did it
come from God or from men?"
00:53:40.28\00:53:42.78
And He'll say they didn't accept
00:53:42.82\00:53:44.72
his preaching,
but the people did.
00:53:44.75\00:53:46.69
They knew he was
a prophet of God.
00:53:46.72\00:53:48.66
So I think they had evidence.
00:53:48.69\00:53:51.33
Jean: Okay, maybe
time for one more.
00:53:51.36\00:53:53.53
Mia, we've got about a minute.
00:53:53.56\00:53:56.33
Welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
00:53:56.36\00:53:57.87
You need to make it quick.
00:53:57.90\00:54:00.34
Mia: All right, my question
is can we observe the Sabbath
00:54:00.37\00:54:04.34
day and also go
to church on Sunday?
00:54:04.37\00:54:08.01
Doug: All right, that's a good--
00:54:08.04\00:54:09.34
we'll give you a
quick answer to that.
00:54:09.38\00:54:11.91
There's nothing wrong with going
to church seven days a week.
00:54:11.95\00:54:15.15
You know, our
church sometimes has
00:54:15.18\00:54:16.48
a prayer meeting on Wednesday.
00:54:16.52\00:54:18.32
So, as far as going to church
or gathering together with
00:54:18.35\00:54:21.39
believers, it
should be done many times.
00:54:21.42\00:54:23.76
It says they broke bread
from house to house daily.
00:54:23.79\00:54:26.76
But as far as what day is the
Sabbath, and you wouldn't want
00:54:26.80\00:54:29.13
to be treating another
day like it's the Sabbath,
00:54:29.16\00:54:32.17
or recognizing it that
way, there's no question.
00:54:32.20\00:54:35.20
I've been to church on Sunday to
worship with people or to go to
00:54:35.24\00:54:38.44
a Bible study but everyone
knows what I believe about the
00:54:38.47\00:54:40.98
Sabbath, it's the
seventh day, not the first.
00:54:41.01\00:54:43.91
Hey, listening
friends, we're about out of time
00:54:43.95\00:54:46.28
for our almost
conclusion of the program.
00:54:46.31\00:54:50.12
We sign off and
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00:54:50.15\00:54:51.45
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00:54:51.49\00:54:53.82
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00:54:55.29\00:54:56.89
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00:54:56.93\00:54:58.99
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00:54:59.03\00:55:01.20
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Pastor Doug, first question, "My
son promised that he would never
00:55:38.90\00:55:41.87
smoke marijuana again,
but he broke his promise.
00:55:41.90\00:55:45.01
If my son
confesses, will he be forgiven?
00:55:45.04\00:55:48.08
Or has my son's
probation closed?"
00:55:48.11\00:55:50.85
Doug: Yeah, so I
think her son made a
00:55:50.88\00:55:52.35
promise to God and
she--and he broke it.
00:55:52.38\00:55:54.58
Does that mean that we're lost?
00:55:54.62\00:55:57.69
Well, let's hope not,
because a lot of us have made
00:55:57.72\00:56:00.49
the best of
intentions in a promise to God.
00:56:00.52\00:56:02.92
Every time a
person's baptized, they're
00:56:02.96\00:56:04.49
making sort of a covenant.
00:56:04.53\00:56:06.66
And many people have broken
some of their baptismal vows.
00:56:06.70\00:56:10.63
Does that mean they've
committed the unpardonable sin?
00:56:10.67\00:56:13.34
God is longsuffering.
00:56:13.37\00:56:14.80
If you want evidence for that,
look at what He did with Israel.
00:56:14.84\00:56:18.51
Right after He
makes the first covenant,
00:56:18.54\00:56:20.31
they break the covenant.
00:56:20.34\00:56:21.81
He could have destroyed
them. Moses prayed for them.
00:56:21.84\00:56:24.05
God says, "Okay, I'm going
to give you another chance."
00:56:24.08\00:56:25.71
Well, that acts out in
people's lives many times.
00:56:25.75\00:56:29.18
He was so patient with
the children of Israel, they
00:56:29.22\00:56:31.19
continued to test
God and He forgave them.
00:56:31.22\00:56:33.66
Jean: We've got an example
in Mary Magdalene as well.
00:56:33.69\00:56:35.99
It says cast out seven devils.
00:56:36.02\00:56:37.56
Doug: That's right.
00:56:37.59\00:56:38.89
Jean: Right,
question number two.
00:56:38.93\00:56:40.23
Here we have Carla,
who's asking, "What should
00:56:40.26\00:56:42.63
I do if I'm
covered with tattoos and
00:56:42.66\00:56:44.53
it's impossible
to get them removed?"
00:56:44.57\00:56:47.67
Doug: Well, don't
lose any sleep over it.
00:56:47.70\00:56:51.21
You know, the
Bible's pretty clear.
00:56:51.24\00:56:53.38
It says, "You
shall not make cuttings
00:56:53.41\00:56:55.84
in your flesh or
tattoo your body.
00:56:55.88\00:56:57.55
I am the Lord," in
the book of Leviticus.
00:56:57.58\00:57:00.75
But a lot of people out there,
especially in our day and age,
00:57:00.78\00:57:03.12
they, you know, they're tattooed
high and low, deep and wide.
00:57:03.15\00:57:07.22
And then they get
convicted and they
00:57:07.26\00:57:09.16
read the Bible,
they come to the Lord.
00:57:09.19\00:57:10.99
They can spend a lot of
time and money and it can
00:57:11.03\00:57:12.99
be very painful to
remove all your tattoos.
00:57:13.03\00:57:15.46
I just say that, you know, you
may want to remove some, just,
00:57:15.50\00:57:19.53
you know, use your good sense
and do what you think the Lord
00:57:19.57\00:57:25.01
wants you to do, but
I don't think that God's
00:57:25.04\00:57:26.88
going to keep you out
of heaven if you came to
00:57:26.91\00:57:28.38
the Lord after
you've gotten tattoos.
00:57:28.41\00:57:30.21
Jean: Absolutely.
00:57:30.25\00:57:31.61
All right, another question:
"Can, or do, angels die?"
00:57:31.65\00:57:35.92
Doug: Well, angels
are spiritual creatures
00:57:35.95\00:57:37.92
that were created by God.
00:57:37.95\00:57:39.35
He can uncreate them
because Bible tells us
00:57:39.39\00:57:42.79
in Revelation chapter 20,
Satan and his angels are cast
00:57:42.82\00:57:45.69
in the lake of fire
and they are consumed.
00:57:45.73\00:57:48.70
It's the second
death, and so, yes,
00:57:48.73\00:57:50.93
the fallen angels,
they're going to die.
00:57:50.97\00:57:53.67
They're kept
right now in everlasting
00:57:53.70\00:57:55.00
chains of darkness for that day.
00:57:55.04\00:57:57.34
Jean: All right, Pastor Doug.
00:57:57.37\00:57:58.67
"If a woman
represents the church in the
00:57:58.71\00:58:00.68
Bible, what does
a man represent?"
00:58:00.71\00:58:02.78
Doug: He is the
servant of the woman?
00:58:02.81\00:58:05.81
You know, not
every time you find woman
00:58:05.85\00:58:07.98
doesn't mean church,
but in certain times.
00:58:08.02\00:58:10.89
Hey, God bless,
friends. We are out of time.
00:58:10.92\00:58:12.92
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and study next week.
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