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Now here's your host from
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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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Doug Batchelor: Hello, friends.
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Would you like to
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Beginning as a petty
thief smuggling cigarettes and
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marijuana, Pablo Escobar
eventually came to dominate the
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global cocaine trade through
the Medellín cartel, controlling
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over 80% of the
drugs shipped to America.
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At one time, his
immense operation earned him an
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estimated $420 million a
week and the nickname the "King
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of Cocaine."
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By the 1980s, approximately
70 to 80 tons of cocaine was
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entering the US per month making
Escobar, according to Forbes in
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1989, the seventh wealthiest
person on the planet worth
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approximately about $30 billion.
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In spite of his lethal business,
he sought to generate public
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approval by donating to churches
and hospitals in Medellín.
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He built soccer fields, parks,
paved roads, and even built a
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new neighborhood with 1000 homes
for families from the slums.
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His deceptions were so
effective, Escobar even
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succeeded in getting himself
elected to Colombia's Congress
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in 1982.
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But at heart he was
still a ruthless killer.
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Escobar's criminal empire
resulted in the deaths of around
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4000 people who dared to
challenge his reign, including
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police officers, government
officials, journalists,
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even judges.
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Over time, even the government
could not be bribed to overlook
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his outrageous crimes
and he went into hiding.
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In 1993 he was killed in the
shootout with police in a middle
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class Medellín neighborhood.
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This reminds me, Pastor Ross, of
another power hungry killer that
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deceives a lot of people
regarding his real character.
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Jëan Ross: That's
right, Pastor Doug.
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As a matter of fact, the Bible
speaks of this being, and Jesus
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has this to say about
him, John chapter 8, verse 44,
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speaking of the devil,
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"He was a murderer from
the beginning, and he does
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not stand in the truth, because
there is no truth in him.
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When he speaks a lie, he speaks
from his own resources, for he's
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the father of lies."
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Well, you have this being
that was created, at one point,
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perfect, but then he becomes
a murderer and it says from the
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beginning he's
always plotted to destroy.
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And of course, ultimately,
that was revealed in the death
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of Jesus.
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Doug: Yep.
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Yeah, he was just
motivated by pride.
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Another passage is in Isaiah
chapter 14 and you can read, I
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think, starting with verse 12.
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"How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
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How you are cut down to
the ground, you who weakened
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the nations!
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For you said in your heart, 'I
will ascend into heaven, I will
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exalt my throne
above the stars of God...
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I will sit on the mount of
the congregation on the farthest
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sides of the north; I will
ascend above the heights of the
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clouds, I will be
like the Most High.'"
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He was just power hungry, wanted
God's position, but he's tried
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to deceive people as
to his true character.
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But the devil has no problem
killing anyone that gets in his
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way and that's why Jesus,
of course, went to the cross.
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But some people think, well, if
God is a loving God, why did he
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make a devil to tempt us?
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Jëan: That's right.
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If He knew what would
happen, why did He even do that
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in the beginning?
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Well, we have a study
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Our first call of this evening
is Cory listening in Ohio.
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Cory, welcome to the program.
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Cory: Hi, how are you doing?
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Doug: Good, good.
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Thanks for calling.
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Cory: Good, good.
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I enjoy your program.
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I glean a lot of information
about the scriptures from
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your program.
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Doug: Well, thank you.
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Cory: My question is, in
Revelation 12, verse 1 through
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9, it's the story
of the war in heaven.
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heavenly host and threw them
down to the earth, how could he
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have fought with them
against Michael and the angels?
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How could they--if
they weren't there?
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Because those angels are
considered as his angels, the
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ones that he threw down to
the ground, from the information
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that I've received
from different sources.
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And I'm just trying to figure
out how he was able to fight
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with those angels if he
threw them down to the ground.
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Doug: Yeah, when it says that a
third of the angels were cast to
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the ground, these are
the ones cast out with Satan.
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It's not that Satan defeated
a third of the good angels.
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One third of the angels followed
Satan in his rebellion and when
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Satan was cast to the
earth--that's actually even in
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the verse we just read, "I will
cast thee out as profane because
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you have sinned," and
Satan was cast out of heaven.
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One third of the angels were
cast out with him and you can
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also read in Matthew 25,
it says, "This lake of fire is
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prepared for the
devil and his angels."
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And so, I don't know,
am I answering what you're
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asking, Cory?
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Does that make sense?
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Cory: No, the sequence
is--something is wrong with the
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sequence and it
says--this is what it says.
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"And his tail drew the third
part of the stars of heaven,
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then down to the earth: and the
dragon stood before the woman
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and there was a great battle
in heaven: and Michael and the
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angels fought with the dragon;
and the dragon fought and
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his angels."
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I'm trying to figure out, who
did he throw down to the ground?
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Doug: Yeah, this--yeah, this is
the--a third of the angels that
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were fighting with Lucifer
against Michael and his angels
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are the ones that
are cast to the ground.
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Jëan: Yeah, maybe just to add a
little more, you know, there's a
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feature that we see in Bible
prophecy and this might be what
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might help a little bit.
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Sometimes, the statement is
made in prophecy and then the
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prophet, in vision, backs
up to explain how he got to
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that point.
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So, in other words, like
you say, in the introductory of
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Revelation 12, it says the devil
with his tail was able to just
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throw down a third of the stars
of heaven, but it's not until
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you get to verse 8 and 9
you actually find out how He
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did that.
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Well, then it goes on to say,
well, "There was war in heaven:
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Michael and his angels fought
with the dragon; and the dragon
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fought and his angels."
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And then it goes on in verse
9, "So the great dragon was cast
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out, that old serpent of old
called the devil and Satan, who
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deceives the whole world; he
was cast to the earth, and his
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angels were cast out with him."
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So, it begins with the
statement, "The devil was able
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to deceive a third of the angels
and they were cast out," and
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then it's not until 9, you get
the details of exactly how that
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happened, "While there was a
war, and he lost and he and his
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angels were thrown out."
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Doug: All through prophecy
it'll give you the headline.
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Jëan: That's right.
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Doug: Then it goes back
and gives you the story.
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Jëan: That's right.
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Kind of repeat and enlarge.
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So, hopefully, that helps, Cory.
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Doug: He would enjoy our study
that we're offering on "Did God
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Create the Devil?"
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Jëan: That's right.
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I think it's in there.
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We talk about that.
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Again, the number to call
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All right, next caller that we
have is Brittany in California.
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Brittany,
welcome to the program.
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Brittany: Yeah.
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My question is, is the Torah
relevant for Christians today in
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our modern time?
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Doug: Is it okay for a
Christian to read the Torah?
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Brittany: Mm-hm.
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Doug: Yeah.
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Now, of course, the Torah
are sacred Jewish writings and
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there's a lot that can be
learned from that, so there's
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nothing morally
wrong with doing that.
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You know, by all means
there's a good history in there.
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The Torah is a word that is used
to sort of encompass a lot of
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the Hebrew scriptures, but it
may also include some that would
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not be in our Old Testament, but
would be the sacred writings.
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I think the word "torah"
is law, in the greater sense.
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So, yeah by all means.
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When you're reading your Bible,
you're reading part of the Torah
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right there.
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So, hopefully that
helps a little bit.
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Hey, thank you Brittany.
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Jëan: All right, we've
got Tina listening in Nevada.
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Tina, welcome to the program.
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Tina: Hi.
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Doug: Hi, Tina.
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Thanks for calling.
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Tina: This is her daughter.
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She's standing--she's
sitting right here with me.
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This is Tina.
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She just gets nervous on
the phone which--and now I am a
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little nervous too,
but we are both here.
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We were just wondering about
lots of different religions and
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one particularly that we
had been involved in, you know,
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before--I guess our question is,
why do some believe that they're
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the only ones, they're the only
ones who have the truth and you
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have to do it, it gives you
almost that sense of fear to go
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off and look in a direction
or to keep reading, actually,
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because the Bible says,
you know, "Keep reading, keep
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seeking, keep knocking," but
you have man telling you a whole
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another thing.
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And so, I guess what our
question is, is that why do
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some--and some in particular
believe they're the only ones
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that are going to get--?
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Doug: Yeah, why do some
denominations teach that they're
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the only ones that are
going to make it to heaven?
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Well, to be honest, I think they
do that the same reason that
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some political candidates can't
say anything good about any
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other candidate because
they say, "I'm the only answer."
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They don't want to
give any other options.
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As soon as you admit to people
that you don't have all the
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truth and they begin to look
around, there are some churches
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that teach their members they
are not allowed to look at or
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read religious information
from any other denomination.
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Now, we don't do
that in our church.
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In fact, you know, I said, I
think, during this series, we
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think the greatest part of
Christ's true followers are not
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members of our church.
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I hope they all come and join
before it's over, but we know
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there's godly people in
many different churches.
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But when a church says you're
not allowed to read anything
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written by another church, it's
like they put blinders on their
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members so they can't look
around and I think the truth--if
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your church has the
truth, it should bear up
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under investigation.
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A couple of years ago, you know,
we did a friendly debate at our
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church here and another pastor
said, you know, he doesn't think
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we need to keep
the Sabbath anymore.
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And I said, "I think we do," and
we said, "Well, let's take it to
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the people and see
what the Bible says."
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And I think that
the truth should bear up
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under investigation.
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And so, yeah, a lot of these
denominations, they say, "If
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you're not a member of our
church, then you're not one of
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the 144,000 and only members
of our church are going to
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be saved."
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You know, while I believe
my church is the closest to the
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Bible--I mean, if it's not, I'm
in the wrong church, clearly.
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I mean, you want to be--every
pastor should think, my church
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is as closest to the Bible as
I can get, because you--we all
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want to be as close to
scriptural truth as we can be.
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But I think it's reckless
to say that we're flawless.
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There's a Pope that
says that he's infallible.
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The only one who is
really infallible in this world
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is Jesus.
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Jëan: And that's right.
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Jesus Himself said, "Other sheep
I have which are not of this
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fold, them I need to
call and they will come."
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So, yes.
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So, see, as seekers of truth, in
whatever church, even different
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religions, if they open to the
promptings of the Holy Spirit,
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they will be led into truth.
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And Jesus said, "You shall know
the truth and the truth will set
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you free."
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So, we shouldn't be
afraid of the truth.
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All right, thank you.
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Next caller that we have
is Andrew in West Virginia.
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Andrew, welcome to the program.
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Andrew: Awesome, awesome.
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So, my question is--say you're
seeking employment and it's
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very, very hard, but every
employer wants you to work on
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Sabbath, that
they'll give you Sunday off.
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Obviously, you need money live.
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How should you
proceed with that?
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Doug: Yeah, it's a challenge.
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And you know, I think that if
you're going to seek first God's
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kingdom, then you just
need to settle that that is not
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an option.
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And of course, there's millions
of people around the world
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that--I know just in our church
are 22 million members, and
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there's many other Sabbath
keepers around the world.
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They're just resolved that
even if it is difficult, that
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breaking God's
commandments are not an option.
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And God opens doors, it
sometimes can be a challenge,
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but I don't think
you need to be afraid.
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He'll work miracles.
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He provides for his people.
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Jëan: Yeah, and Jesus said, you
know, do not worry about what
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you're going to wear or
what you're going to eat, God
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will provide.
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So, if we stand up for
what we know to be true, God has
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promised to provide for our
needs, for us and our families.
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Doug: Yeah, there'll be tests.
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We're not denying that, you
know, you may get tested on your
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faith, but give God a chance to
prove himself God and say, "I'm
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going to trust the Lord."
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And you know, if it were me,
I think a lot of employers would
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say finding
honest employees is hard.
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And if you got an employee that
says, "I'm not going to break
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the fourth commandment even if
I lose my job," that means that
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employee is probably going
to work when they're there and
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they're not going to steal your
materials from your office or
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your store or whatever.
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So, honest
employees are hard to find.
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I just--I trust the
Lord, he's going to provide.
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Thanks so much,
Andrew, appreciate your call.
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Jëan: We've got
Bonnie listening in Oregon.
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Bonnie, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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You're on the air.
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Bonnie: Thank you so
much for taking my call.
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My question is, when we get to
heaven, will we still have the
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same character that we died with
even though we've taken our sins
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to the Lord and asked
Him to help us to overcome?
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What will our characters be in
heaven, because the thief on the
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cross really didn't have much
time for character development.
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Doug: Yeah, well,
that's a good question.
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But the thief on the cross did
have time for heart conversion
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and we think he went through the
steps of conversion, which are,
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you repent and you
confess and then you receive.
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And he publicly said, you know,
we're getting what we deserve,
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he expressed sorrow and then he
prayed and said, "Lord, remember
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me," and Jesus promised,
"You'll be with Me in paradise."
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I think he accepted that
and his heart was transformed.
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And as soon as we are justified
and we're given that new heart,
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when he comes forth in the
Resurrection, he's still going
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to have that new heart.
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Now, he may not have had time
to, you know, go through the
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character development of
being tempted on his diet or his
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temper or whatever the problems
might have been, but I think the
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Holy Spirit will
compensate at times like that.
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He'll be in the kingdom.
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Thank you, Bonnie.
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Hope that helps a little.
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By the way, I have a book about
the thief on the cross and it's
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called, "Crucified with Christ."
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I think you'll enjoy that.
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Jëan: All right, next caller
that we have is Cindy listening
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in California.
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Cindy, welcome to the program.
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Cindy: Good evening, pastors.
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Thank you for taking my call.
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Doug: Thank you.
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And your question.
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Cindy: My question is about the
prophecies in the Old Testament
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and New about the sun turning
dark, the moon turning to blood,
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and the stars
falling, earthquakes.
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I've heard from pastors that
these already happened in the 17
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and 1800s, but it seems in
Revelation that maybe these are
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ahead of us, from
Revelation 6:12, the sixth seal.
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So, are these things that
could still be in front of us?
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Doug: Yes and yes.
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This is one of those prophecies
where I think you've got a
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dual application.
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God sometimes shows us,
historically, the fulfillment of
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these things.
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After the 1798 period that is
given in Revelation and Daniel,
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it says that the sun would be
dark and the moon would turn to
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blood and the stars
would fall from heaven.
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Those things happened
on a grand scale globally.
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Big Lisbon earthquake was felt,
sent shockwave all around North
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Africa and Europe and it's still
recorded by the seismologist as
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one of the biggest and a
great human loss of human life.
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Jëan: Seventeen fifty-five.
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Doug: Yeah.
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These things happen
historically, but they're going
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to happen again in quick
succession just before the
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Second Coming because one thing
that didn't happen, says, "And
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the heavens
departed as a scroll."
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And so, that's still to come.
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So, isn't that
what you understand?
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Jëan: Yeah, absolutely.
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I'm just looking at it.
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You know, what's significant
about that is you look at
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the date 1755 and then you have
1780 and then you have 1833.
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Right around that time, it's
after the Protestant Reformation
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is already taken off, people
are beginning to study the
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scriptures, in particular
the prophecies of the Bible.
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And as they were studying these
prophecies, recognizing that the
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2300 year prophecy of Daniel
8:14 was coming to an end, then
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there was this great earthquake,
the Lisbon earthquake.
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Something else
passed that is interesting.
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At the time, Lisbon was the
capital and Portugal was the
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capital of the slave trade
around the world and a judgment
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came upon this city, and then,
of course, North Africa, Europe,
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and even as far as the Americas.
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And then the dark
day, May 19, 1780.
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And then, probably the
most spectacular star shower
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was in--
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Doug: That's the one that
was in--it's--was November 12.
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Jëan: Oh, that's 12.
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Doug: Yeah, it was November
12, 1833, and so this is the
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190th anniversary.
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Sorry, I got my events mixed up.
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They called it a
Leonid meteor storm.
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I'm looking at it in
the Library of Congress.
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It's--and history is--
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Jëan: Remarkable, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, yes, it had a
historical application.
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Could it have a
future application?
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Well, when you read about what
happens just before Jesus comes,
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it seems as though all of
nature's turned upside down.
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There's a great earthquake that
the Bible speaks of at the end
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as well, so.
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Doug: Sun will go dark, moon
will look like blood because the
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skies will be filled with smoke.
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It's all going to happen again.
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Thank you so much.
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Appreciate your question.
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And who's next?
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Jëan: All right, we got
Gary listening in Illinois.
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Gary, welcome to the program.
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Gary: Thank you.
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In Genesis 1:26 it says,
"Let them have dominion over
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the earth."
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Does that mean we're to be good
stewards over the planet or have
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the option to run the planet
straight into hell like we're
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currently doing by
using coal and oil?
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Doug: Well, to answer your
question, yes, people should be
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good stewards of the planet.
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In fact, in Revelation, I think
it's chapter 16, verse 11, it
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says, "God will destroy
them that destroy the earth."
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Jëan: Chapter 11.
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Doug: 11, verse--
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Jëan: Probably 16.
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We might have
got that backwards.
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Doug: We're dyslexic,
a little bit sometimes.
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Yeah, it says that "the nations
were angry and the time of Your
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wrath should come and that
You should destroy those that
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destroy the earth."
00:19:27.40\00:19:29.73
Jëan: Yes, Revelation
11, verse--I'm looking at it
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right here.
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Doug: Yeah, so we should be
good stewards of the planet and
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dominion was given to the
planet--given to Adam and Eve of
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the planet and they were to
care for the creatures and tend
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the Garden.
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And even now, I think, you know,
Christians should be responsible
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stewards of everything, their
time, their words, and the world
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that God has made.
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As far as possible,
we should do our best.
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Jëan: Revelation
chapter 11, verse 18.
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Doug: That's it.
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Thanks so much.
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Appreciate that, Glenn.
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Jëan: All right, next caller
that we have--I think that
00:20:04.50\00:20:06.00
was Gary.
00:20:06.03\00:20:07.30
We've got Glenn
now listening in Ohio.
00:20:07.34\00:20:08.64
Glenn, welcome to the program.
00:20:08.67\00:20:10.87
Glenn: Good evening to you
and thanks for taking my call.
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Doug: Absolutely.
00:20:13.74\00:20:15.04
Glenn: Scripture is Luke
17, verses 20 through 22.
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My question is, what did Jesus
mean when He said, "The kingdom
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of God is within you"?
00:20:23.79\00:20:26.15
Doug: Yeah, well, the--and He
says here, "The kingdom of God
00:20:26.19\00:20:29.32
does not come with observation;
nor will they say, 'See here!'
00:20:29.36\00:20:32.23
or 'See there!'
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For indeed, the
kingdom of God is within you."
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When Jesus began His ministry,
He said, "Repent, for the
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kingdom of heaven is at hand."
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I think John the
Baptist said the same thing.
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And if you read in Acts chapter
1--I forget, it may have been
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Philip that said to Jesus,
"Lord, will you, at this time,
00:20:47.14\00:20:51.08
you know, establish
Israel as a kingdom?"
00:20:51.11\00:20:53.62
And He said, "It's not for you
to know the times and seasons."
00:20:53.65\00:20:56.85
So, they even
misunderstood there.
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There's two aspects
to the kingdom, Glenn.
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You've got the internal kingdom
where you invite Jesus to be the
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Lord of your life and sit on
the throne of your heart, that
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begins right now.
00:21:08.83\00:21:10.40
But there is a time when Christ
comes to receive the kingdom,
00:21:10.43\00:21:13.50
and this world that He has
ransomed, He will get it back.
00:21:13.54\00:21:17.64
And so, that is the--the
physical kingdom of God will be
00:21:17.67\00:21:20.71
set up here on earth at the end
of the 1000 years, the spiritual
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kingdom is already available and
it's within reach for everyone.
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Jëan: Yes, you know, if somebody
surrenders their life to Christ,
00:21:28.45\00:21:30.85
they become a
citizen of the kingdom.
00:21:30.89\00:21:32.72
If Jesus is ruling in their
heart, we call that the kingdom
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of grace.
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And eventually, the kingdom
of grace will give way to the
00:21:36.56\00:21:38.36
kingdom of glory when Jesus
comes a second time and the
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earth is finally recreated
at the end of the 1000 years.
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So, two parts of the
kingdom as you mentioned.
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All right, great.
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Next question that we have
is--let's see, we've got James
00:21:48.47\00:21:51.11
in Texas.
00:21:51.14\00:21:52.47
James, welcome to the program.
00:21:52.51\00:21:54.61
James: Yes, thank you
for taking my call tonight.
00:21:54.64\00:21:58.71
Doug: Yes, and
we're glad you're calling.
00:21:58.75\00:22:00.32
Your question.
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James: Yes, I'm trying to
get the truth about a kind of
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a urgent matter.
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Some people say that the death
decree is the end of probation
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and some say that is
the mark of the beast.
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Can you tell me if that's
in scriptures, when the death
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decree--I mean, not death
decree, the end of probation is,
00:22:19.57\00:22:22.74
because I can't find it anywhere
and it's kind of confusing me.
00:22:22.77\00:22:25.81
Doug: Yeah, yeah, good question.
00:22:25.84\00:22:27.78
You're not going to find
the phrase in the probation,
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you'll find the teaching.
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Now, for instance, is it
Revelation 22 where Jesus said,
00:22:32.88\00:22:36.55
"Let him that is just"--you
might want to look that up
00:22:36.58\00:22:38.25
real quick.
00:22:38.29\00:22:39.62
As far as the decree, it doesn't
call it a decree, it's called a
00:22:39.65\00:22:42.76
decree--in Daniel 3 a decree
is made by Nebuchadnezzar.
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A decree is signed by Darius
in Daniel chapter 6 as a death
00:22:47.50\00:22:51.00
decree, unless they
worship a certain way.
00:22:51.03\00:22:53.10
Revelation alludes to the same
kind of law, it doesn't use the
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word decree.
00:22:56.24\00:22:57.57
And it says in verse 17 of
Revelation 13, "No one might buy
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or sell except the one who has
the mark, the name of the beast,
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or the number of his name."
00:23:04.31\00:23:05.65
Well, it stands to reason that
if they're going to enforce a
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law that no one can buy or
sell, there'll be a decree that
00:23:08.12\00:23:12.02
states that.
00:23:12.05\00:23:13.29
Jëan: And we have that verse
that I think you're referring
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to, Revelation 22, verse 11.
00:23:15.16\00:23:16.83
Jesus says, "He that is unjust,
let him be unjust still; he that
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is filthy, let him be filthy
still; he that is righteous, let
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him be righteous still; he that
is holy, let him be holy still,
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and behold, I come quickly..."
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So, that is made
before Jesus comes.
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And then Daniel chapter 12,
verse 1, it says, "At that time
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Michael shall stand up, the
great prince who stands over the
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sons of thy people; and there
will be a time of trouble, worse
00:23:35.68\00:23:38.81
than the world has ever seen...
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But at that time thy people
shall be delivered, every one
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found written in the book."
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So, you have the close of
probation, you have a time of
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trouble, the seven last plagues,
the end of which is the death
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decree, but Jesus comes
before that death decree can
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be enacted.
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Doug: Yeah, and when you read
about the seven last plagues it
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says instead of repenting,
they don't repent, they curse
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their God.
00:23:57.97\00:23:59.20
Yeah, so there's no repenting,
their probations close during
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the seven last plagues.
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That's probably
the best we can do now.
00:24:03.44\00:24:05.04
The other idea about probation
closing would be when Noah and
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his family boarded the ark.
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There were seven days when life
went on, but their probation was
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closed, the door was shut, and
it'll be that way near the end
00:24:15.48\00:24:18.59
of time.
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Jëan: And my name is Jëan  Ross
and we're going to go to Jim.
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Jim is listening in Indiana.
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Jim, welcome to the program.
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Jim: Yes, hello.
00:28:00.98\00:28:02.31
Doug: Hi, thanks for waiting.
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Jim: We were doing a Bible study
the other week and somebody
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brought up about Adam
and Eve running around naked.
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I said, "No, they was clothed
with the light of God," I guess.
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How do you
explain that to somebody?
00:28:19.96\00:28:22.83
Doug: Well, I'll have Pastor
Ross look something up for me
00:28:22.86\00:28:25.40
while I share some
other verses with you.
00:28:25.43\00:28:26.97
In Revelation where he
talks about clothes with white
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robes--is that 7--I forget.
00:28:28.80\00:28:31.31
But if you look in Mark chapter
9, when Jesus is glorified on
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top of this mountain, with
Elijah and Moses appear, says,
00:28:36.81\00:28:40.82
"His clothing became exceedingly
shining, white like snow, such
00:28:40.85\00:28:45.09
as no launderer on
earth can whiten them."
00:28:45.12\00:28:47.56
I think another passage
in Matthew it says that "his
00:28:47.59\00:28:52.56
clothes became like the sun."
00:28:52.59\00:28:55.06
That's what it's--yeah, that's
in Matthew--what is it, 16
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or 17?
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Yeah, verse 3, and then
when Moses came off the mountain
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after talking to God,
he had to veil his face.
00:29:03.74\00:29:06.44
So, he had to cover his face
with clothes because it was so
00:29:06.47\00:29:08.84
bright you
couldn't look on his face.
00:29:08.88\00:29:11.35
Adam and Eve used to
talk to God face to face.
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They had garments of light.
00:29:13.75\00:29:15.08
It was, you know, no artificial
fabric, but they were just
00:29:15.12\00:29:18.05
shimmering with God's glory,
made in the image of God, and
00:29:18.09\00:29:21.66
when they sinned, those garments
of--robes of light went out.
00:29:21.69\00:29:25.03
Jëan: That's right.
00:29:25.06\00:29:26.39
When we look in Revelation
chapter 7 talks about those
00:29:26.43\00:29:27.76
who are arrayed white
robes, speaking of the redeemed.
00:29:27.76\00:29:30.77
And then we have in Acts chapter
1, verse 10 talks about an angel
00:29:30.80\00:29:34.67
wearing white apparel,
dazzling white brightness.
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And I think in the verse itself
in Genesis when it talks about
00:29:38.24\00:29:40.71
Adam and he suddenly realized
they were naked, it gives the
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idea that at some point in
time they weren't naked and they
00:29:43.61\00:29:46.78
became naked and
they suddenly realized it.
00:29:46.82\00:29:49.25
So, that would imply then that
at some other time they were
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wearing something.
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Doug: Why would they
try to cover themselves?
00:29:53.36\00:29:54.66
Jëan: Yeah, why would they
suddenly say, "Oh, we're naked"?
00:29:54.69\00:29:56.26
Doug: And then, it's not
like God didn't say, "Oh, you
00:29:56.29\00:29:58.49
shouldn't be
ashamed to be naked."
00:29:58.53\00:29:59.83
God said, "You
should be ashamed.
00:29:59.86\00:30:01.16
Your garments are too small."
00:30:01.20\00:30:02.43
He made bigger ones, because in
the book of Genesis it says they
00:30:02.46\00:30:07.27
made aprons of fig leaf and
it says they were small and God
00:30:07.30\00:30:11.77
gave them tunics of skin.
00:30:11.81\00:30:14.18
So, not only was it the wrong
material, but it wasn't enough.
00:30:14.21\00:30:17.55
So clearly, the clothing in
heaven, it's not, you know, it's
00:30:17.58\00:30:20.68
not wool, it's not
skin, it's not polyester.
00:30:20.72\00:30:24.65
These are some supernatural
garments of glory that they had.
00:30:24.69\00:30:29.19
Jëan: You know, one of the
verse, Psalms 104, verse 2, God
00:30:29.22\00:30:32.56
says, speaking of God, "[You]
00:30:32.59\00:30:34.36
cover yourself with
light as a garment..."
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Doug: There you go.
00:30:37.17\00:30:38.40
Jëan: And if we're created in
God's image, God wears light and
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Adam and Eve had
this garment of light.
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Doug: That's a good verse.
00:30:44.84\00:30:46.51
Jëan: Okay, thank you, Jim.
00:30:46.54\00:30:48.04
We have Joan
listening in Australia.
00:30:48.08\00:30:50.18
Joan, welcome to the program.
00:30:50.21\00:30:52.91
Joan: Hello, how are you?
00:30:52.95\00:30:54.25
Thank you for taking my call.
00:30:54.28\00:30:55.62
Repetition is the
key, "Bible Answers Live."
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My question tonight is Jeremiah
chapter 3, verse 9. Can you
00:30:58.29\00:31:02.89
please explain to me
that verse and who is she?
00:31:02.92\00:31:07.66
Is she the people or the
developing people of God?
00:31:07.66\00:31:11.47
Doug: Alright, let me read
this for our friends listening.
00:31:11.50\00:31:13.34
In Jeremiah chapter 3, verse
9 it says, "So it came to pass,
00:31:13.37\00:31:17.21
through her casual harlotry,
that she defiled the land and
00:31:17.24\00:31:21.04
committed adultery
with stones and with trees."
00:31:21.08\00:31:24.21
It's talking about when
the people of God, yeah,
00:31:24.25\00:31:27.95
they--when--the stones and
trees, it means they made idols
00:31:27.98\00:31:31.19
out of wood, they made
idols out of stone, and they
00:31:31.22\00:31:35.02
worshiped them.
00:31:35.06\00:31:36.39
God consistently
called that harlotry.
00:31:36.42\00:31:39.26
In fact, in the book of Hosea
it specifically says that Israel
00:31:39.29\00:31:43.53
had played the
harlot with her idols.
00:31:43.57\00:31:46.74
So, because God said, "Do
not make graven images in the
00:31:46.77\00:31:50.07
second commandment.
00:31:50.11\00:31:51.57
I'm, you know, I'm a living God.
00:31:51.61\00:31:52.91
Any image you make of Me is
going to diminish your concept
00:31:52.94\00:31:55.81
of My greatness."
00:31:55.84\00:31:57.18
Whenever they started worshiping
idols like the pagan nations
00:31:57.21\00:31:59.91
around them, He said, "You're
giving your love to another
00:31:59.95\00:32:02.35
God," and it
was called harlotry.
00:32:02.38\00:32:05.32
Jëan: And in Revelation chapter
17, you have a woman, her name
00:32:05.35\00:32:08.09
is Babylon, and she's
described as a harlot.
00:32:08.12\00:32:10.86
So, whenever a church leaves the
truths of God's Word and forms
00:32:10.89\00:32:15.26
an alliance with political
powers or begins to worship
00:32:15.30\00:32:18.73
idols, in this case, spiritually
she's described as a harlot.
00:32:18.77\00:32:22.64
Doug: Yeah.
00:32:22.67\00:32:24.01
And in this passage in Jeremiah,
it talks about both Israel, the
00:32:24.04\00:32:27.21
northern kingdom, and
Judah followed suit and they got
00:32:27.24\00:32:29.84
involved in idolatry too in
the time of--well, Solomon did
00:32:29.88\00:32:33.38
before he died, but then
got really bad during the time
00:32:33.42\00:32:36.12
of Manasseh.
00:32:36.15\00:32:37.42
Jëan: And both kingdoms would
judge for that at some point.
00:32:37.45\00:32:39.99
All right, thank you, Joan.
00:32:40.02\00:32:41.36
We got Betty Lou in California.
00:32:41.39\00:32:43.66
Betty Lou,
welcome to the program.
00:32:43.69\00:32:45.99
Betty Lou: Thank you.
00:32:46.03\00:32:47.36
My first question of the first
text is Acts 9:36 where Peter
00:32:47.40\00:32:55.84
goes and raises Dorcas.
00:32:55.87\00:32:58.84
It calls her a disciple.
00:32:58.87\00:33:01.64
So, there were women disciples.
00:33:01.68\00:33:04.51
Then, we go to Luke 24:13 and
onward for two disciples were on
00:33:04.55\00:33:11.32
the way to Emmaus and Jesus
joined them and they didn't
00:33:11.35\00:33:15.92
recognize him.
00:33:15.96\00:33:17.76
Now, they didn't usually put
women's names down, and if there
00:33:17.79\00:33:22.20
were women disciples, why could
not this other disciple had been
00:33:22.23\00:33:26.67
Mrs. Cleopas?
00:33:26.70\00:33:28.60
And they went to their home
together and they asked Jesus to
00:33:28.64\00:33:32.91
stay with them.
00:33:32.94\00:33:34.28
Am I wrong in believing that?
00:33:34.31\00:33:36.88
Doug: No, you're absolutely
right in believing that there
00:33:36.91\00:33:40.72
are women disciples.
00:33:40.75\00:33:42.62
Now, of course, the
word disciple is different
00:33:42.65\00:33:44.52
from apostle.
00:33:44.55\00:33:45.79
There were no women apostles,
the 12 apostles were all men.
00:33:45.82\00:33:50.23
And then, when Judas was
replaced in Acts chapter 1, they
00:33:50.26\00:33:53.60
replaced him from among two men.
00:33:53.63\00:33:56.50
Could this other woman--or could
this other disciple, Cleopas, it
00:33:56.53\00:34:01.74
couldn't have been
Cleopas and his wife.
00:34:01.77\00:34:04.14
Well, it could have been, it
doesn't say in the text whoever
00:34:04.17\00:34:08.44
they were.
00:34:08.48\00:34:09.78
It says, "The same hour after
Jesus revealed Himself to them,"
00:34:09.81\00:34:13.45
that they turned around and
went back to Jerusalem together.
00:34:13.48\00:34:17.39
So, all we can do is speculate
about what the name or identity
00:34:17.42\00:34:22.36
of the other one was, but
there's nothing in the text that
00:34:22.39\00:34:25.36
says it wasn't his wife
and there certainly were
00:34:25.39\00:34:29.16
women disciples.
00:34:29.20\00:34:30.53
Mary Magdalene was a disciple.
00:34:30.57\00:34:32.27
Jëan: Just to add to that, Jesus
in the Great Commission, He
00:34:32.30\00:34:34.90
said, "Go and make
disciples of all nations."
00:34:34.94\00:34:37.57
So, that obviously
includes both men and women.
00:34:37.61\00:34:40.04
Doug: Yep, absolutely.
00:34:40.08\00:34:41.98
So, I hope that helps Betty Lou.
00:34:42.01\00:34:43.35
Thank you.
00:34:43.38\00:34:44.68
Jëan: We've got David in Alaska.
00:34:44.71\00:34:46.01
David, welcome to the program.
00:34:46.05\00:34:48.02
David: I've been abused and I'm
mentally ill and my question is,
00:34:48.05\00:34:52.32
will God put people to
sleep if they can't handle the
00:34:52.35\00:34:55.12
end-time persecution?
00:34:55.16\00:34:57.03
Doug: Well, let me read you a
verse that I hope will bring you
00:34:57.06\00:35:00.76
some comfort and
maybe some peace of mind.
00:35:00.80\00:35:03.26
You go to 1 Corinthians chapter
10 and let me--just give me a
00:35:03.30\00:35:07.94
second here.
00:35:07.97\00:35:09.27
Here it is, yeah.
00:35:09.30\00:35:10.64
1 Corinthians 10, verse 13.
00:35:10.67\00:35:12.41
Thank you.
00:35:12.44\00:35:13.78
"No temptation has overtaken you
except such as is common to man;
00:35:13.81\00:35:17.91
but God is faithful, who
will not allow you to be tempted
00:35:17.95\00:35:21.98
beyond what you are able, but
will with the temptation also
00:35:22.02\00:35:26.39
make the way of escape,
that you are able to bear it."
00:35:26.42\00:35:29.56
So, either God is going to, you
know, get you out of the way of
00:35:29.59\00:35:33.50
the temptation or make sure that
whatever temptation or trial
00:35:33.53\00:35:37.40
comes you are able to bear it.
00:35:37.43\00:35:39.43
So, don't worry that you're ever
going to be given something by
00:35:39.47\00:35:42.80
God that you can't
handle with His grace.
00:35:42.84\00:35:45.34
But there are going to be some
that, you know, He loves that
00:35:45.37\00:35:47.98
He'll lay to rest.
00:35:48.01\00:35:49.98
Where is that prophecy that
says, "And none considers it, He
00:35:50.01\00:35:54.28
takes them away to
avoid the the trials to come"?
00:35:54.32\00:35:58.52
You know what I'm talking about?
00:35:58.55\00:35:59.85
Some people are laid to rest
and it's because God loves them.
00:35:59.89\00:36:03.06
"Blessed in the eyes of the Lord
is the death of His saints."
00:36:03.09\00:36:05.69
And then even in Revelation it
says, "Where the souls under the
00:36:05.73\00:36:08.73
altar rest, until the
other fellow servants might be
00:36:08.76\00:36:13.30
martyred as you were."
00:36:13.34\00:36:14.67
So, you know, God sometimes lets
people go to sleep so they won't
00:36:14.70\00:36:18.11
have to go through
trials they can't handle.
00:36:18.14\00:36:19.81
Jëan: And I think the point that
you mentioned, pastor, that you
00:36:19.84\00:36:21.48
look in scripture, whenever one
of God's disciples faced a trial
00:36:21.51\00:36:25.68
and they stood for the right,
they were always empowered to
00:36:25.71\00:36:28.05
handle that trial.
00:36:28.08\00:36:29.52
And of course, we have many
martyrs who gave their life,
00:36:29.55\00:36:32.15
frail--you know, women who you
might think, well, I don't think
00:36:32.19\00:36:35.16
they can handle trials, but
yet they did, they became like a
00:36:35.19\00:36:38.69
lion in the face of persecution
and had this holy boldness and
00:36:38.73\00:36:42.26
this peace and their
life was such a testimony.
00:36:42.30\00:36:45.57
And when they gave their life
there was this calmness--many
00:36:45.60\00:36:48.80
actually sang while
being burned at the stake.
00:36:48.84\00:36:51.04
Now, that's humanly impossible,
so God sustained them in
00:36:51.07\00:36:54.14
a miraculous way.
00:36:54.18\00:36:55.51
Doug: That's right.
00:36:55.54\00:36:56.85
Jëan: All right,
thank you, David.
00:36:56.88\00:36:58.21
We have got Steve
listening in Oregon.
00:36:58.25\00:37:00.05
Steve, welcome to the program.
00:37:00.08\00:37:02.45
Steve: Yeah, I've got recently
got "The Days of Noah" DVD set
00:37:02.48\00:37:07.46
and I've watched it dozens
of times and they have answered
00:37:07.49\00:37:11.53
numerous questions I've had
been--I've been plagued by for
00:37:11.56\00:37:15.10
years, but one question's left
me with--at the end of the--all
00:37:15.13\00:37:20.14
four DVDs, all of the main
characters are on foot traveling
00:37:20.17\00:37:24.84
through the forest over hills
and crossing streams, heading
00:37:24.87\00:37:28.11
towards one mountain top that
is covered by a huge rainbow
00:37:28.14\00:37:33.88
colored, halo-looking cloud.
00:37:33.92\00:37:37.19
Is that the end of the days of
Noah's story or is there another
00:37:37.22\00:37:42.49
DVD that finishes the
production I can request?
00:37:42.52\00:37:46.70
Is that huge rainbow
colored halo-type cloud the New
00:37:46.73\00:37:51.47
Jerusalem coming down?
00:37:51.50\00:37:53.47
I'm confused like, fireball-type
asteroids are impacting
00:37:53.50\00:37:59.44
the earth.
00:37:59.47\00:38:00.84
Is it too late to be saved
or should we be heading towards
00:38:00.88\00:38:04.71
this rainbow type thing?
00:38:04.75\00:38:07.58
Doug: Well, I--first of
all, I was a contributor to that
00:38:07.62\00:38:11.79
DVD series.
00:38:11.82\00:38:13.12
We did not produce it, it was
produced by our good friends at
00:38:13.15\00:38:15.56
Layman
Ministries and Jeff Reich.
00:38:15.59\00:38:17.86
And I'm pretty sure that what's
implied there is that they are
00:38:17.89\00:38:22.40
going towards a place of safety
and it's just prior to the
00:38:22.43\00:38:26.70
coming of the Lord.
00:38:26.74\00:38:28.07
You don't need to worry about
where to run right now because
00:38:28.10\00:38:32.34
when that day comes, just like a
pillar of fire led God's people
00:38:32.37\00:38:36.91
through the wilderness, angels
are going to guide us during
00:38:36.95\00:38:39.58
that time.
00:38:39.61\00:38:40.85
And says He'll give His angels
charge over you to keep you in
00:38:40.88\00:38:43.85
all your ways, 1000 may fall at
your side, 10,000 at your right
00:38:43.89\00:38:47.76
hand, but it will
not come near you.
00:38:47.79\00:38:49.86
So, God is going to
preserve His people.
00:38:49.89\00:38:52.19
I never worry about, you know,
am I going to know where to run
00:38:52.23\00:38:54.83
and hide in the last days?
00:38:54.83\00:38:56.90
My concern is, I just want to be
faithful day by day to be doing
00:38:56.93\00:39:00.07
what God wants me to do.
00:39:00.10\00:39:01.84
But thanks so much and I'll
tell our friends at Layman's
00:39:01.87\00:39:06.11
Ministries that you've
been blessed by the series.
00:39:06.14\00:39:09.11
Jëan: Next call that we
have is Linda listening in
00:39:09.14\00:39:11.28
West Virginia.
00:39:11.31\00:39:12.61
Linda, welcome to the program.
00:39:12.65\00:39:14.78
Linda: Thank you
for taking my call.
00:39:14.82\00:39:18.59
Pastors, I want to tell
you first of all, I really
00:39:18.62\00:39:21.92
appreciate y'all's ministry.
00:39:21.96\00:39:24.19
I have learned so much and I'm
going on 74 and I've seen a lot
00:39:24.23\00:39:29.80
in my lifetime with--I
call them my family, my aunt.
00:39:29.83\00:39:36.20
And I was wondering about demons
because, my mom and my brother,
00:39:36.24\00:39:44.71
we went to my aunt's house and
she was a pretty bad alcoholic
00:39:44.75\00:39:50.09
and she wanted to get saved
on her deathbed, she had cancer,
00:39:50.12\00:39:52.89
bone cancer.
00:39:52.92\00:39:54.26
And mom took a couple of
preachers, and this was when I
00:39:54.29\00:39:58.33
was 25 and I'm going 74 now, and
when we got there the preachers
00:39:58.36\00:40:04.93
coming around with Bibles
praying and her voice changed
00:40:04.97\00:40:07.70
and it was like a
demon coming out of her.
00:40:07.74\00:40:10.01
Pastors, is that possible?
00:40:10.04\00:40:12.04
Because, I was
there and I heard it.
00:40:12.07\00:40:14.58
Doug: It is possible,
to answer your question.
00:40:14.61\00:40:17.11
And I don't know that
every person struggling with
00:40:17.15\00:40:21.18
alcoholism is demon possession
because the drug itself is a
00:40:21.22\00:40:24.99
very powerful thing and the
devil, I'm sure, takes advantage
00:40:25.02\00:40:27.46
of that.
00:40:27.49\00:40:28.82
Jesus can save
people from alcoholism.
00:40:28.86\00:40:31.63
I've seen it, you
know, many, many times.
00:40:31.66\00:40:34.40
And you know, you can
read in Mark chapter 16.
00:40:34.46\00:40:38.27
Jesus said in verse 16, "He that
believes and is baptized will be
00:40:38.30\00:40:42.54
saved; he that does not will
be condemned, these signs will
00:40:42.57\00:40:45.77
follow those who believe: in my
name they will cast out devils;
00:40:45.81\00:40:49.38
and they will speak with
new tongues; and they'll take up
00:40:49.41\00:40:51.51
serpents," meaning if, you know,
if they get bit by a serpent,
00:40:51.55\00:40:54.32
it's not going to hurt them,
"and if they drink anything
00:40:54.35\00:40:57.02
deadly, it will by no means hurt
them; and they'll lay hands on
00:40:57.05\00:41:00.52
the sick, and they'll recover."
00:41:00.56\00:41:01.89
So, everything that Jesus
lists here, the apostles did.
00:41:01.92\00:41:06.73
There's no listing of them
being poisoned, but it may have
00:41:06.76\00:41:09.46
happened and
then they survived it.
00:41:09.50\00:41:12.37
So, I do believe that the power
of God is still there and we can
00:41:12.40\00:41:16.60
pray and ask God to set people
free from sin and temptation,
00:41:16.64\00:41:20.51
and sometimes it may be a
more direct demonic obsession
00:41:20.54\00:41:25.25
or possession.
00:41:25.28\00:41:26.58
Jëan: Well, yes, it's--just
to add to that, pastor.
00:41:26.61\00:41:28.58
Like, it's very real.
00:41:28.62\00:41:29.92
I know you've been in Africa,
you've done meetings, I've done
00:41:29.95\00:41:31.85
meetings in Africa, and you
know, maybe we don't see it as
00:41:31.89\00:41:34.56
much in the US, although there
are times where that happens
00:41:34.59\00:41:37.06
even here, but I
remember one--in one occasion in
00:41:37.09\00:41:40.43
particular and just like what
the lady described on the phone,
00:41:40.46\00:41:45.40
there was a spirit there, a
demonic force, and everyone knew
00:41:45.43\00:41:48.64
it and the voice changed and
kind of supernatural strength
00:41:48.67\00:41:52.61
and it's scary.
00:41:52.64\00:41:53.81
You can kind of feel the
hair on the back of your neck.
00:41:53.84\00:41:55.38
So, the Bible says we don't
wrestle against flesh and blood,
00:41:55.41\00:41:58.65
there are
demonic forces out there.
00:41:58.68\00:42:00.58
Doug: Absolutely.
00:42:00.62\00:42:01.95
Jëan: Now, of
course, God protects us.
00:42:01.98\00:42:03.28
We are grateful for that.
00:42:03.32\00:42:04.45
We don't have to walk around
in fear, but I think that is
00:42:04.49\00:42:06.22
a warning.
00:42:06.25\00:42:07.46
We don't want to
give ground to the devil.
00:42:07.49\00:42:08.79
Doug: Yep, absolutely.
00:42:08.82\00:42:10.49
Well, thank you, Linda.
00:42:10.53\00:42:11.83
I hope that helps a little bit.
00:42:11.86\00:42:13.40
And we got time for a
couple more before our break.
00:42:13.43\00:42:15.03
Jëan: Yeah, we got
Steve from California.
00:42:15.06\00:42:16.36
Steve, welcome to the program.
00:42:16.40\00:42:17.93
Steve: Thanks
for taking my call.
00:42:17.97\00:42:19.30
So, I wonder if you could help
me with a--verses 1 John chapter
00:42:19.33\00:42:23.44
2, verses 7 and 8, I was reading
my Bible study this morning and
00:42:23.47\00:42:30.38
I'll just read you the first
line from each of those verses
00:42:30.41\00:42:33.82
seems to be a contradiction.
00:42:33.85\00:42:35.15
It says in verse 7, "Brethren,
I write no new commandment
00:42:35.18\00:42:39.65
to you."
00:42:39.69\00:42:40.99
And in verse 8 it says, "Again,
a new commandment I write
00:42:41.02\00:42:44.13
to you."
00:42:44.16\00:42:45.49
I wonder if you
can help explain it.
00:42:45.53\00:42:46.76
Doug: Yeah, well, sometimes in
Hebrew writings they used some
00:42:46.80\00:42:52.90
irony where they would kind
of juxtapose two thoughts that
00:42:52.93\00:42:57.64
sounded like their opposite.
00:42:57.67\00:42:58.97
Let me give you another example.
00:42:59.01\00:43:00.54
King Solomon said, "Do
not answer a fool or you sound
00:43:00.58\00:43:05.95
like him."
00:43:05.98\00:43:07.32
Then he says immediately after
that, "Answer a fool according
00:43:07.35\00:43:11.72
to his folly, or he'll
be wise in his own eyes."
00:43:11.75\00:43:14.79
And you're thinking, well,
make up your mind, answer him or
00:43:14.82\00:43:17.09
don't answer him?
00:43:17.13\00:43:18.46
And what he's basically saying
is that no matter what you do,
00:43:18.49\00:43:23.50
you're not going to win when
you're trying to communicate
00:43:23.53\00:43:25.30
with a fool.
00:43:25.33\00:43:26.67
And so, if you don't answer him,
he thinks he's right; if you do
00:43:26.70\00:43:29.34
answer him, then
you look like him.
00:43:29.37\00:43:31.01
Well, here John is
doing something similar.
00:43:31.04\00:43:34.38
He's saying, "Don't forget
the original commandments."
00:43:34.41\00:43:39.08
"That which you've
had from the beginning.
00:43:39.11\00:43:41.65
It's the old commandment which
is the word you've heard from
00:43:41.68\00:43:43.15
the beginning.
00:43:43.18\00:43:44.52
And again, a new
commandment I write you."
00:43:44.55\00:43:45.85
So when he said, "I write no
new commandment to you," it's
00:43:45.89\00:43:48.52
another way of his saying, "I'm
not asking you to forget the
00:43:48.56\00:43:51.76
foundational commandments.
00:43:51.79\00:43:53.70
So, I'm not writing these new
commandments to you to forget
00:43:53.73\00:43:55.93
the old ones."
00:43:55.96\00:43:57.27
But he says, "Then again,
there's a new commandment which
00:43:57.30\00:43:59.57
is in Him, because darkness is
passing away, and the true light
00:43:59.60\00:44:03.20
is shining."
00:44:03.24\00:44:04.54
In other words, I think
he's saying that Christ came to
00:44:04.57\00:44:07.41
magnify the law
and make it honorable.
00:44:07.44\00:44:10.05
Jesus didn't really take
away the law, He showed that the
00:44:10.08\00:44:13.31
summary of the law is love.
00:44:13.35\00:44:15.75
Jëan: I think maybe another
way to put it is, "The new
00:44:15.78\00:44:18.02
commandment that I'm telling
you is the old commandment."
00:44:18.05\00:44:21.39
So, John is saying, you know,
"If people are talking about a
00:44:21.42\00:44:23.86
new commandment, the reality is
that new commandment is really
00:44:23.89\00:44:26.76
the old commandment that you
read about to love God with all
00:44:26.80\00:44:29.40
your heart and love
your neighbor as yourself."
00:44:29.43\00:44:31.40
Doug: Kind of like where Jesus
said, "You've heard it said by
00:44:31.43\00:44:34.44
them of old," speaking of an old
commandment, "that you shall not
00:44:34.47\00:44:37.91
commit adultery."
00:44:37.94\00:44:39.27
And then He said, "But I say
unto you do not look on a woman
00:44:39.31\00:44:42.94
to lust in your heart."
00:44:42.98\00:44:44.28
So, did He do away
with the old commandment?
00:44:44.31\00:44:45.91
No, you're not supposed to
commit adultery, but He gave a
00:44:45.95\00:44:47.92
new insight.
00:44:47.95\00:44:49.28
It goes beyond the action.
00:44:49.32\00:44:50.79
It includes the attitude.
00:44:50.82\00:44:52.39
I think John's
doing the same thing here.
00:44:52.42\00:44:55.12
So, thanks.
00:44:55.16\00:44:56.49
I hope that helps
a little bit, Steven.
00:44:56.52\00:44:57.83
And let's see, we
move on to--who is it?
00:44:57.86\00:45:00.33
Rosemary?
00:45:00.36\00:45:01.63
Jëan: Yeah, Rosemary,
welcome to the program.
00:45:01.66\00:45:03.77
California.
00:45:03.80\00:45:05.40
Rosemary: Hello.
00:45:05.43\00:45:06.77
Hi, Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross.
00:45:06.80\00:45:09.57
I have a question
regarding witnessing.
00:45:09.60\00:45:13.94
Now, I have a
passion for witnessing.
00:45:13.98\00:45:17.08
I really want to witness to
my neighbors, the new city I
00:45:17.11\00:45:20.08
moved in.
00:45:20.12\00:45:21.42
But recently, I was--from
discouraged from passing
00:45:21.45\00:45:26.29
out pamphlets.
00:45:26.32\00:45:27.76
A person told me that that's
not a good way to witness, that
00:45:27.79\00:45:32.86
they'll be thrown away,
people don't read these days.
00:45:32.89\00:45:35.80
What is the better way to
witness if I'm discouraged to
00:45:35.83\00:45:39.03
witness using pamphlets?
00:45:39.07\00:45:43.57
Doug: Well, people
do still read pamphlets.
00:45:43.61\00:45:45.94
I've met folks that have had
their lives changed by reading
00:45:45.97\00:45:48.81
books and literature and little
"Amazing Facts" prints and sells
00:45:48.84\00:45:52.81
thousands of these
pocket--"Amazing Facts Tracks,"
00:45:52.85\00:45:55.85
we call them.
00:45:55.88\00:45:57.19
They're little pocket-sized
pamphlets that they just cost a
00:45:57.22\00:45:59.35
few cents a piece and people can
give them out and they'll talk
00:45:59.39\00:46:01.62
about salvation and
different present truth.
00:46:01.66\00:46:03.76
It's true.
00:46:03.79\00:46:05.13
It's like fishing, you know, you
reel in the line empty a lot.
00:46:05.16\00:46:09.13
When you're passing out
literature, you need to just
00:46:09.16\00:46:11.40
figure that, you know, maybe 1
out of 50 will read it, but that
00:46:11.43\00:46:16.24
1 out of 50 that reads it, it
changes their life in some way.
00:46:16.27\00:46:20.71
So, you're scattering seed, not
every seed you scatter is going
00:46:20.74\00:46:23.28
to sprout.
00:46:23.31\00:46:25.28
And, you know, I'm guessing
that some of the people that are
00:46:25.31\00:46:27.85
discouraging you, they may
even be folks in the church.
00:46:27.88\00:46:31.22
And I would ask them, "Well,
what are you doing to witness?"
00:46:31.25\00:46:34.52
You know, you're better
doing something that has minimal
00:46:34.56\00:46:37.13
results than doing nothing with
no results, and you're better
00:46:37.16\00:46:41.20
doing something wrong
than doing nothing very well.
00:46:41.23\00:46:44.23
And there's a lot of folks that
criticize witnessing efforts and
00:46:44.27\00:46:46.97
they're not doing anything.
00:46:47.00\00:46:48.64
But you know, today,
you know, we're using media.
00:46:48.67\00:46:51.81
Of course, we use publishing
still at "Amazing Facts," but we
00:46:51.84\00:46:54.48
also use media.
00:46:54.51\00:46:55.84
The internet is very effective.
00:46:55.88\00:46:57.68
Tech people are
texting using WhatsApp.
00:46:57.71\00:46:59.75
All kinds of ways
to witness these days.
00:46:59.78\00:47:02.42
And--
00:47:02.45\00:47:03.79
Jëan: Even Facebook.
00:47:03.82\00:47:05.12
Doug: Yeah, that's right.
00:47:05.15\00:47:06.49
Jëan: People are posting,
you know, encouraging statements
00:47:06.52\00:47:07.82
or verses.
00:47:07.86\00:47:09.19
Yeah, sure.
00:47:09.22\00:47:10.53
Doug: So--but literature is
not--it's still a medium for
00:47:10.56\00:47:12.46
communication, so
you can still do that.
00:47:12.49\00:47:15.13
Jëan: All right, very good.
00:47:15.16\00:47:16.50
Next caller that we have,
Doug listening in California.
00:47:16.53\00:47:18.53
Doug, welcome to the program.
00:47:18.57\00:47:19.87
Doug: I'm Doug, I'm listening.
00:47:19.90\00:47:21.24
Jëan: I know,
you're right there.
00:47:21.27\00:47:22.57
Caller Doug: Hi,
Doug, you're on the air.
00:47:22.60\00:47:24.67
Doug: Hi.
00:47:24.71\00:47:26.01
So, I have a question.
00:47:26.04\00:47:27.38
Once you accept Jesus Christ in
your heart, do you--do you need
00:47:27.41\00:47:33.68
to be baptized?
00:47:33.72\00:47:35.88
Doug: Well, if you've never been
baptized, once you accept Jesus
00:47:35.92\00:47:40.06
you don't necessarily need
to get baptized immediately,
00:47:40.09\00:47:42.82
because Christ said in
Matthew 28, "Go therefore, teach
00:47:42.86\00:47:46.83
all nations."
00:47:46.86\00:47:48.16
So, prior to baptism there
should be some teaching where
00:47:48.20\00:47:52.47
a person understands the
foundational basics of, what
00:47:52.50\00:47:55.74
does it mean now to be a
Christian, I've accepted Jesus's
00:47:55.77\00:47:58.04
sacrifice, and then be baptized,
and then there's more teaching
00:47:58.07\00:48:02.28
that comes afterward.
00:48:02.31\00:48:03.71
Jëan: You know, we do
have a study guide talking
00:48:03.75\00:48:05.15
about baptism.
00:48:05.18\00:48:06.48
It'll answer
this question for you.
00:48:06.51\00:48:07.85
It's called "Purity and Power,"
and just call and ask for that.
00:48:07.88\00:48:10.22
It's 800-835-6747.
00:48:10.25\00:48:13.52
Ask for that study guide,
"Purity and Power," or dial
00:48:13.56\00:48:16.39
pound 250 and we can send
it to you that way as well.
00:48:16.42\00:48:20.26
All right, the next caller that
we have is Paul in Australia.
00:48:20.30\00:48:23.37
Paul, welcome to the program.
00:48:23.40\00:48:25.40
Paul: Hi, good evening,
Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross.
00:48:25.43\00:48:28.10
Doug: Evening.
00:48:28.14\00:48:29.44
Thanks for calling.
00:48:29.47\00:48:30.81
Paul: So, my question is this.
00:48:30.84\00:48:32.31
Genesis chapter
4, verse 16 to 17.
00:48:32.34\00:48:37.31
They say that Cain has killed
Abel and then they went out from
00:48:37.35\00:48:40.45
the presence of the
Lord and marry his wife.
00:48:40.48\00:48:44.15
And from that time, from that
period, it's just four people,
00:48:44.19\00:48:49.12
Adam and Eve and then you get
Cain and Abel, and Abel is dead.
00:48:49.16\00:48:53.36
Where did Cain find wife from?
00:48:53.40\00:48:57.67
Doug: Yeah,
that's a good question.
00:48:57.70\00:48:59.70
A lot of people
wonder about that.
00:48:59.73\00:49:01.97
They start reading through the
Bible--and if you go a little
00:49:02.00\00:49:05.77
further, you may not have read
this yet, but if you read in
00:49:05.81\00:49:09.88
Genesis chapter 5 it says that
Adam had sons and daughters.
00:49:09.91\00:49:18.09
Genesis 5, verse 4, "After
he begot Seth, the days of Adam
00:49:18.12\00:49:22.76
were eight hundred years;
and he had sons and daughters,"
00:49:22.79\00:49:26.76
probably quite a few.
00:49:26.80\00:49:28.20
So, when it talks about Cain
and Abel and one murdering the
00:49:28.23\00:49:31.20
other, it doesn't say they're
the only children Adam and
00:49:31.23\00:49:34.64
Eve had.
00:49:34.67\00:49:35.97
Those were probably the two
oldest boys and they may have
00:49:36.00\00:49:37.97
been the only ones at that time,
but Adam and Eve had also had
00:49:38.01\00:49:42.81
sons and daughters and
they married their sisters.
00:49:42.84\00:49:46.65
I know that always seems a
little odd to us, but keep in
00:49:46.68\00:49:48.78
mind, Abraham married his
half-sister and Jacob married
00:49:48.82\00:49:52.25
his first cousin
and it was not odd.
00:49:52.29\00:49:54.99
Both Adam and Eve, they were
brother and sister, if you think
00:49:55.02\00:49:57.83
about it.
00:49:57.86\00:49:59.16
And so, that's what happened.
00:49:59.19\00:50:01.66
And by the way, again, that's
Genesis 5, verse 4, they had
00:50:01.70\00:50:06.30
sons and daughters, many others.
00:50:06.33\00:50:08.70
Jëan: Okay, maybe
time for one more.
00:50:08.74\00:50:10.31
Richard in Michigan.
00:50:10.34\00:50:11.64
We have about a minute, Richard.
00:50:11.67\00:50:13.91
Richard: Okay, I want to
know if I've lost my salvation.
00:50:13.94\00:50:18.28
I got saved, got baptized, and
in Revelation it says he'll spew
00:50:18.31\00:50:23.05
you out of your--His mouth if
you're not doing what he wants.
00:50:23.08\00:50:27.79
Doug: I don't believe you've
grieved away the Holy Spirit or
00:50:27.82\00:50:29.82
you wouldn't be calling and
anxious about your salvation.
00:50:29.86\00:50:33.36
There's a free book that you can
call and ask for and just ask
00:50:33.40\00:50:37.00
for Pastor Doug's book
on the unpardonable sin.
00:50:37.03\00:50:39.60
I think it'll bring you some
comfort and also some knowledge
00:50:39.63\00:50:43.30
about, you know,
what does that mean?
00:50:43.34\00:50:46.84
So, have faith, Richard.
00:50:46.88\00:50:50.31
The Bible says, "Where
there's life, there's hope."
00:50:50.35\00:50:52.08
You're alive.
00:50:52.11\00:50:53.42
Reach out for that door of mercy
and start following the Lord.
00:50:53.45\00:50:56.92
Jëan: The number to call
for that is 800-835-6747.
00:50:56.95\00:51:00.86
Just ask for the book.
00:51:00.89\00:51:02.19
It's called--
00:51:02.22\00:51:03.56
Doug: It's on
the unpardonable sin.
00:51:03.59\00:51:04.89
Jëan: The unpardonable sin.
00:51:04.93\00:51:06.26
I know we have another one
called, "Rescue From Above,"
00:51:06.29\00:51:07.60
but that's the one
on unpardonable sin.
00:51:07.60\00:51:10.30
Doug: Well, listening friends,
just so you understand how this
00:51:10.33\00:51:13.03
works, we are on hundreds of
stations around the country and
00:51:13.07\00:51:16.30
we are on satellite radio.
00:51:16.34\00:51:18.21
All these cars with satellite
radios are getting this
00:51:18.24\00:51:20.31
broadcast, they
operate on different clocks.
00:51:20.34\00:51:22.88
We're going to say farewell.
00:51:22.91\00:51:24.21
God bless to our
friends listening on satellite.
00:51:24.25\00:51:26.18
The rest of you,
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00:51:26.21\00:51:27.85
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was absolutely miserable.
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She would go out and sleep with
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00:52:31.35\00:52:35.88
that ended my marriage, but
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City, there's my wife now,
Rebecca, she's a cashier there.
00:52:46.93\00:52:51.07
And when I walk in, she's the
most beautiful girl I've ever
00:52:51.10\00:52:54.04
seen in my life.
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I was like, man, I could
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Wow, she's so beautiful.
00:52:58.81\00:53:00.18
But as I'm working with her,
she's actually kind of mean to
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me and she's saying, "I don't
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00:53:03.71\00:53:07.42
Get away from me,"
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00:53:07.45\00:53:09.42
But, you know, I just keep being
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00:53:09.45\00:53:12.59
give her my phone number and
it's around Christmas Eve, we'd
00:53:12.62\00:53:16.79
just been dating for a little
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00:53:16.83\00:53:19.53
My ex-wife shows up with my
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00:53:19.56\00:53:24.10
and she's like, "Here's
your kids, here's their birth
00:53:24.13\00:53:26.47
certificates, here's
their social security cards.
00:53:26.50\00:53:28.80
I'm done."
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And we're starting a family.
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We
have--already have three kids.
00:53:31.54\00:53:33.58
During this time we spent the
next year watching nothing but
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"Amazing Facts" on YouTube.
00:53:37.18\00:53:39.11
I didn't even know they
even had a website at this time.
00:53:39.15\00:53:41.32
I just knew that this little guy
on YouTube was super smart, was
00:53:41.35\00:53:44.99
teaching Bible, and
I wanted to follow him.
00:53:45.02\00:53:48.52
I wanted to be a Christian.
00:53:48.56\00:53:49.86
I gave my life to God now
because of these truths that I'm
00:53:49.89\00:53:52.99
learning from Doug Batchelor.
00:53:53.03\00:53:54.76
Just because Doug taught it
didn't make me real sure about
00:53:54.83\00:53:57.73
going to this church.
00:53:57.77\00:53:59.37
I really didn't want anything
to do with it, but I'm--I called
00:53:59.40\00:54:01.80
the guy up and I'm telling
him, and I'm not very nice about
00:54:01.84\00:54:05.21
it, actually.
00:54:05.24\00:54:06.57
I'm telling him, "Look, we
was thinking about coming to
00:54:06.61\00:54:08.21
your church."
00:54:08.24\00:54:09.48
And he's really nice and he's
like, "Well, you're more than
00:54:09.51\00:54:11.91
welcome to.
00:54:11.95\00:54:13.28
We'd like to have you come."
00:54:13.31\00:54:14.62
And I'm like, "Well, hold on.
00:54:14.65\00:54:15.98
I'm going to lay
down some ground rules."
00:54:16.02\00:54:17.42
I'm telling him, I said, "Look
here, I'm covered in tattoos and
00:54:17.45\00:54:20.46
I'm a tattoo artist," and
he don't say, "Well," you know,
00:54:20.49\00:54:23.69
"wow, I didn't know all that.
00:54:23.73\00:54:25.06
Don't come to my church."
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We would love to have you.
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Please come."
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He asked me what I want to
do and I said, "Well, I want
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to preach."
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I said, "I have
all these truths.
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I have all this knowledge, stuff
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if I'd had when I was younger
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changing to me."
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I want to teach."
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He gives me the
book, says, "Study that."
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worker I'm able to go reach
00:54:52.39\00:54:54.79
people that most of the normal
churches wouldn't even bother to
00:54:54.82\00:54:58.83
even speak to.
00:54:58.86\00:55:00.26
I'm able to go out and reach the
people who have lived the life
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that I've lived.
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I'm able to let them
know that I am like you.
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I've been there.
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I've done that.
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I want to show you
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I want to teach you this Bible.
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I want to show you
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Jëan: Hello,
friends, and welcome back to
00:55:30.79\00:55:32.09
"Bible Answers Live."
00:55:32.13\00:55:34.10
We have just a few
minutes to answer your email
00:55:34.10\00:55:35.90
Bible questions.
00:55:35.93\00:55:37.27
If you'd like to send us an
email Bible question, you can
00:55:37.30\00:55:40.00
send it to
BALquestions@amazingfacts.org.
00:55:40.04\00:55:43.81
That's
BALquestions@amazingfacts.org.
00:55:43.84\00:55:47.84
Pastor, I got a
first question from Emily.
00:55:47.88\00:55:49.71
She says, "Why did Jesus
have to be tortured in order to
00:55:49.74\00:55:53.45
save mankind?
00:55:53.48\00:55:54.82
Couldn't He have just died?"
00:55:54.85\00:55:56.52
Doug: Well, no, because the
penalty for sin, while it is
00:55:56.55\00:56:00.26
death, it is not just death,
it is suffering and death.
00:56:00.29\00:56:03.12
Every man is rewarded
according to his works.
00:56:03.16\00:56:05.33
Jesus not only took the death
penalty, He took the pain that
00:56:05.36\00:56:10.10
we all deserve
for our bad behavior.
00:56:10.13\00:56:13.50
There are varying degrees of
suffering that are going to be
00:56:13.54\00:56:16.97
meted out according to people's
sins and Jesus took all of that.
00:56:17.01\00:56:20.94
So, He took not only
death, He took the suffering and
00:56:20.98\00:56:23.98
the death.
00:56:24.01\00:56:25.35
Jëan: Okay.
00:56:25.38\00:56:26.68
We have Wilma asking, "In
Genesis chapter 1, verse 14, it
00:56:26.72\00:56:29.08
says God created night and day,
but then in Revelation 21:25 it
00:56:29.12\00:56:34.06
says that there is no
night in the New Jerusalem."
00:56:34.09\00:56:37.46
Doug: Well, it--and it says that
there's no night there because
00:56:37.49\00:56:41.00
you get the presence of God
and the Bible says that God is
00:56:41.03\00:56:44.90
light, in Him is no darkness.
00:56:44.93\00:56:47.20
Even during the Creation folks
say, "Why did God say, 'Let
00:56:47.24\00:56:50.61
there be light,' and He
hasn't made the sun until the
00:56:50.64\00:56:52.67
fourth day?"
00:56:52.71\00:56:54.01
Well, it's because that
light was coming from the very
00:56:54.04\00:56:56.01
presence of God.
00:56:56.04\00:56:57.38
So, if God is dwelling in the
New Jerusalem, there is no night
00:56:57.41\00:57:00.78
there in the city, but
there is still day and night.
00:57:00.82\00:57:04.39
Isaiah tells us even in the
new earth, there's still day
00:57:04.42\00:57:06.42
and night.
00:57:06.45\00:57:07.76
Says the night is brighter than
the day is now and the day is
00:57:07.79\00:57:10.46
seven times
brighter than it is now.
00:57:10.49\00:57:13.03
So, yeah, there will be still
a sun, there'll still be days.
00:57:13.06\00:57:17.53
Jëan: Okay.
00:57:17.57\00:57:18.90
In Mark chapter 12:26 Jesus said
the God of Abraham, Isaac and
00:57:18.93\00:57:22.37
Jacob is the God of
the living, not the dead.
00:57:22.40\00:57:25.44
So, does this mean that
they were taken to heaven?
00:57:25.47\00:57:28.74
Doug: No, it simply means
that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,
00:57:28.78\00:57:31.71
they're sleeping.
00:57:31.75\00:57:33.08
A person asleep is not dead.
00:57:33.11\00:57:34.62
They have eternal life.
00:57:34.65\00:57:36.18
They are going to
be in the Resurrection.
00:57:36.22\00:57:37.72
Jesus refers to them as living
beings that still exist, because
00:57:37.75\00:57:42.09
they're just resting, waiting
for the Resurrection along with
00:57:42.12\00:57:44.73
myriads of others who are saved.
00:57:44.76\00:57:47.60
We got a book on that,
"Are the Dead Really Dead?"
00:57:47.66\00:57:49.76
How do they get that?
00:57:49.80\00:57:51.13
Jëan: That's right.
00:57:51.17\00:57:52.47
Just call and ask.
00:57:52.50\00:57:53.84
It's 800-835-6747.
00:57:53.87\00:57:55.37
And again, you can ask
for that book, "Are the Dead
00:57:55.40\00:57:57.31
Really Dead?"
00:57:57.34\00:57:58.57
and we'll be happy to send that
to anyone who calls and asks or
00:57:58.61\00:58:00.81
just dial pound 250 on
your smartphone and you can get
00:58:00.84\00:58:04.81
that--get it that way as well.
00:58:04.85\00:58:06.65
Doug: Well, thank you, friends.
00:58:06.68\00:58:08.02
Don't forget.
00:58:08.05\00:58:09.35
Check out amazingfacts.org.
00:58:09.38\00:58:10.72
We have a plethora
of resources there.
00:58:10.75\00:58:12.99
God bless.
00:58:13.02\00:58:14.36
We'll study again
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