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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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Doug Batchelor:
Hello, listening friends.
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Would you like to
hear an Amazing Fact?
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On March 8, 2014,
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
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departed from Kuala Lumpur
International Airport, heading
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to Beijing, China, with 227
passengers and 12 crew aboard.
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About 38 minutes after takeoff,
while over the South China Sea,
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the Boeing 777 aircraft dropped
from air traffic control radar.
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The Malaysian military picked up
the aircraft 17 minutes later,
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observing that it had attempted
a nearly complete U-turn
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but there was no
response from the cockpit.
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After flying back over Malaysia,
the jet mysteriously turned
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and eventually disappeared
from radar as it headed south
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into the most remote
section of the Indian Ocean.
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The disappearance of
Flight 370 triggered a massive
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multi-international
search by air and sea in Asia
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and the southern Indian Ocean
that's estimated to have covered
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some 46,000 square miles.
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The search that began in 2014
was finally concluded on June 9,
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2018, costing an
estimated $160 million,
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making it the longest and most
expensive search in history.
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In 2015, a few pieces of debris
believed to be from the plane
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washed up on Reunion
Island in the Indian Ocean,
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confirming it had
crashed into the sea.
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Still, the plane's
location, black box,
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or none of the
passengers were ever found,
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nor did they ever discover
the reason for the disaster.
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You know, that just--that's
heart-wrenching when you think
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all those people's lives that
were shattered and no answers.
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And there was actually years
before--a year and a half before
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they found any debris and they,
you know, there are all kinds of
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conspiracies and--had
it been hijacked or was it
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a blackmailing plot,
and, as I just said, it was
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heart-wrenching for
the families involved.
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But you look at all
of the time and the money
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that was spent
searching for the lost.
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Jean Ross: You know, it's
important for them, whenever
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these disasters occur,
especially in aviation,
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they want to find out the cause
of what caused the accident so
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that they can learn from that.
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They can modify things,
sometimes they have to change
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things related to the plane.
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In this case, was all of that
money and time, they come up
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with maybe theories but they
don't have any concrete evidence
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to support an idea,
and so they haven't learned
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from that experience.
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And to think about it, the
amount of money and the amount
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of time--well, you remember, I
remember it well, when the plane
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went missing and everyone
was pretty confident at first
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with the modern technology
and with the satellites and
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being able to trace things,
they--everyone thought they'd
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find the plane, but it
just kept going on and on.
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Doug: And the black box,
it's, you know, developed--it is
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extremely--it's indestructible,
virtually, and it emits a
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locating beacon and--but it
was such a remote place and they
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think so deep
they never found it.
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But it makes me think about, you
know, all that time and energy
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spent to save the lost, but it
wasn't really the most expensive
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search because the
Bible tells us about
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the most expensive search.
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The most expensive search cost
the most expensive thing and
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that would be the
life of the Creator.
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Nothing's more
valuable than that.
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And if you say you've got a
mountain of diamonds, what's
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worth more, a mountain of
diamonds or the one who can make
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a mountain of diamonds?
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So, the Lord sent His Son
into the world to seek and
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to save the lost.
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By the way, that's
Luke 19, verse 9 and 10.
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Jesus said, and this is
in the story of Zacchaeus:
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"TODAY SALVATION HAS
COME TO HIS HOUSE, BECAUSE HE
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IS ALSO A SON OF
ABRAHAM; FOR THE SON OF MAN
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HAS COME TO SEEK AND TO
SAVE THAT WHICH WAS LOST."
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And then in chapter 15 of
Luke, Jesus said in verse 4:
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"WHAT MAN OF YOU, HAVING
A HUNDRED SHEEP, IF HE LOSES
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ONE OF THEM, DOES
NOT LEAVE THE NINETY-NINE
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IN THE WILDERNESS,
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AND GO AFTER THE ONE THAT
IS LOST UNTIL HE FINDS IT?
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AND WHEN HE FINDS IT,
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HE LAYS IT ON HIS
SHOULDERS, REJOICING."
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And this is how desperately
the Lord yearns to redeem
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His lost children.
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Jean: Think about the
amazing thing about the plan of
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redemption, it cost so
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this great gift, even though
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of course, we have to
respond, the price has been paid
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but by faith we need to
receive that gift of salvation.
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We have a book that's
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What do we do to benefit
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Well, we have many folks
lined up with their calls,
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Pastor Doug, but let's
start with prayer and then
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we'll go to the phone lines.
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Doug: Yes.
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Jean: Dear Father, we thank
You once again that we have this
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opportunity to study Your Word
together and, Lord, we ask Your
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blessing upon this program.
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Guide us into a clear and
full understanding of the Bible
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as we study together,
in Jesus's name, amen.
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Doug: Amen.
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Jean: Well, we're going to
go first to Debbie in Canada.
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Debbie, welcome to the program.
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You're on the air.
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Debbie: Hi,
Pastors, how are you?
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Doug: Doing great. How are you?
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Debbie: I'm
very well, thank you.
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I have a question and it's
about when Moses was told that
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he was not allowed to
cross over to the Promised Land.
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Now, in Deuteronomy 3:26 and
4:21 it says the Lord was angry
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with him, but we have a
debate going on, on the YouTube,
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and there's three of us that
think three different things and
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was wondering if you could
tell us which--well, not so much
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which one is right but why
he wasn't allowed to cross over?
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Doug: I hope you'll all still
be friends after I share my
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answer and I could be totally--
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Debbie:
[laughing] Oh, we will be.
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Doug: All right, so you're
talking about when it says:
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"THE LORD WAS ANGRY
WITH ME ON YOUR ACCOUNT,
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AND WOULD NOT LISTEN TO ME.
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SO THE LORD
SAID, 'ENOUGH OF THAT!
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SPEAK TO ME NO
MORE OF THIS MATTER.'"
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So he was pleading that he
could physically lead the people
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into the Promised Land.
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And so are you wondering
why was the Lord angry?
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Debbie: Yes, what was
He--like, we--one of us are
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saying it's because he
killed the Egyptian soldier.
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One of us are saying because
he broke the first set of
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Commandments, and the third one
is saying because He told him
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to speak to the rock and,
instead, Moses struck the rock.
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Doug: Yeah, and that's a
correct answer is in Numbers 20,
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verse 12, it says: "THE
LORD SPOKE TO MOSES AND AARON,
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SAID, 'BECAUSE YOU DID
NOT BELIEVE ME, AND HALLOW ME
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IN THE EYES OF THE
CHILDREN OF ISRAEL,
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THEREFORE YOU SHALL
NOT BRING THIS ASSEMBLY
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INTO THE LAND
THAT I'VE GIVEN THEM.'"
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God had told Moses to--they
were pleading for water again.
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He told Moses to go and to speak
to the rock, but Moses got angry
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and he struck the
rock twice and said,
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"Shall we bring you
rebels water from the rock?"
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And he basically made it sound
like he and Aaron were doing it.
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Took the glory for
himself and he lost his temper.
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And, you know, God said, "It's
not you that's been leading them
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all this time; it's Me."
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And He says, "Because
you didn't sanctify Me."
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Now, to mitigate that,
keep in mind why God said
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you couldn't physically bring
them into the Promised Land.
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The Lord let Moses
see the Promised Land
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from the top of Mount Nebo.
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He could look over and
God enhanced his vision
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where he saw it all.
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And then God resurrected
Moses and you read that in
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Jude verse 9, so that he could
witness their being led over.
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So he saw it from heaven,
with the Lord at his side.
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So, it was a tough sentence
but Moses also represents Jesus.
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And when it says He was angry
with me for your sake, that's
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what it says regarding Christ.
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Says that the Lord basically
took the anger that belongs to
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us and put it on Jesus.
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So Moses is a type of
Christ in this story as well.
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Jean: And of course, Moses
did eventually stand in the
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Promised Land at
the time when he--
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Doug: Mount of Transfiguration.
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Jean: Yeah, Mount
of Transfiguration,
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they were there.
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So he did
ultimately walk in that land.
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All right, thank you, Debbie.
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We've got Camora
listening in Georgia.
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Camora, welcome to the program.
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Camora: Hey, I have a question.
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I'm young and I'm considering
college after high school and
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my mom and a church sister and
another church sister is working
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on trying to get me to college.
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Like, how do I know,
like, which college to go to?
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Doug: All right, so,
well, when you're trying to make
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decisions and you've got
several potentially good choices
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and you want to know
what is God's will for me,
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then there are several criteria.
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The Bible tells us, and by
the way, I've got a little book.
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We'll send you a free copy
if you'd like, and it's called
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"How to Know," or "How to
Determine the Will of God."
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And it's designed especially
for this kind of question.
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But--and I won't give you
all--everything in the book,
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but it's basically get
good Christian counsel, look for
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providential openings, find
which of the options lines up
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best with the Word of God, pray
that God's Spirit will give you
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peace, and then also it says in
Psalms 37 that as you surrender
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to the Lord, He gives you
the desires of your heart.
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So, He may place a, you know,
special burning desire on your
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heart for a specialty,
and one college does more
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in that specialty than another.
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That would be another sign.
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So there's about a dozen
ideas in the book about how
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do I determine the will of
God and they're all Bible based.
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Then you could send for a
free copy of that and we'll be
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praying for you, that God
tells you what to do, Camora.
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Jean: The book is called,
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Next caller that we have is Ron,
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listening all the
way over in Switzerland.
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Ron, welcome to the program.
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Ron: Hi, good morning.
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Doug: Hi, how are you doing?
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Ron: A lot of my evangelical
friends point out to me numerous
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Old Testament Bible texts that
seem to support the notion of
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Jews as a race remaining favored
under God's protection forever.
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And I always thought that these
Old Testament prophecies were
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conditional and would be
annulled if conditions attached
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to them were not met,
in other words, repentance,
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turning from sin to Messiah
as prophesied in Daniel 9,
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but I haven't
seen that happening.
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So, most Jews that I
know aren't even Jewish.
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They're atheists.
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So my question is
"HOW SHOULD ONE READ
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OLD TESTAMENT
PROPHECIES CONCERNING ISRAEL?
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AND ARE THERE ANY
SCRIPTURES THAT MENTION
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THE MODERN STATE OF ISRAEL?"
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Doug: It's a complex answer.
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First of all, the main purpose
of Israel was to introduce
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the Messiah to the
world, which they did.
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They were the
guardians of the Scriptures.
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Paul says in
Romans that the oracles
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were committed to the Jews.
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And Jesus told
the woman at the well,
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"Salvation is of the Jews,"
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meaning that, you know,
the Messiah came through
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the Jews, but then with the
death of Christ and the stoning
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of Stephen, it came to the place
where the Lord opened the door
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to the Gentiles.
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Paul said, you know,
"It's--it was necessary that
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we preached to the Jews first
but seeing you rejected, lo,
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we turned to the Gentiles."
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So as they went from place
to place, as the Jews might
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reject--some accepted, like
in Berea, but if they rejected,
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then they just
went to the Gentiles.
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And then Paul makes it
clear, he says, you know, "Now,
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Gentiles can be grafted into the
stock and promises of Israel."
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That's Romans chapter 9, 10, 11.
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But it says in Romans
11: "Has God cast off Israel?
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God forbid."
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God still has, I
think, a special eye
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on the Jewish people.
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That doesn't mean anyone is
saved by virtue of their DNA
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or their heritage.
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It's those that are of faith.
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Paul says, "He that is
Christ's, he is Abraham's seed."
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And it's not everyone that
says, you know, they're a Jew.
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Jesus said, "They'll come
from the East and the West and
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they'll sit down in the kingdom
with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
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and some of the natural children
will be in outer darkness."
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So it--we're only saved
by faith, Jew or Gentile.
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But are there any
modern prophecies about Israel?
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Well, you know, there--some have
wondered when it says there in
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Daniel and I'm just saying what
some have thought, Daniel 11,
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where it says that the king
in the North is going to come
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against the holy
country, the glorious country.
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They wonder, "Well, is that
an illusion to Israel or is it
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talking about the church?"
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And then you have in Luke
21 where it says Jerusalem
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would be trodden
down by the Gentiles
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unless the times of
the Gentiles is fulfilled.
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And many have thought, "Well,
when they were reestablished
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as a nation in 1948, that
was certainly pretty remarkable.
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It may be, in the same way,
God chastised America to get--
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to turn us back
to him with 9/11."
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You know, even
Billy Graham said,
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"Maybe God's trying
to get our attention."
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It may be this recent attack,
and the Lord loves His people
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and sometimes He allows
trials that we'll turn to Him.
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So, that may have sounded
like a convoluted answer.
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We have a book on this called,
"Spiritual Israel," and there's
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also that great book, "The
Fall and Rise of Jerusalem."
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Jean: That's right.
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Well, let me tell you
about that free offer.
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It's called, "Spiritual Israel,"
and again, this is for anyone
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who'd like to learn more about
what does the Bible say about
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Israel, especially in our time.
00:14:51.72\00:14:53.62
To receive that,
just call 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the book.
It's called, "Spiritual Israel."
00:14:56.99\00:14:59.93
You can also dial
#250 on your smartphone,
00:14:59.96\00:15:02.46
say "Bible Answers Live,"
ask for "Spiritual Israel,"
00:15:02.50\00:15:05.47
and we'll be able
to get that to you.
00:15:05.50\00:15:07.04
Thanks, Ron.
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Next caller that we have
is Anna listening in Oregon.
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Anna, welcome to the program.
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Anna: Evening, Pastors.
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Doug: Evening.
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Anna: My question is from
Ezekiel 34, verses 23 and 24,
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and I was wondering if
Ezekiel was talking about Jesus
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when he says that
David, "My servant David,
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he shall feed them
and be their shepherd"?
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Doug: Yeah, I think this--let
me read it for everybody here
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and this is in
Ezekiel chapter 34, verse 23:
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"I WILL ESTABLISH
ONE SHEPHERD OVER THEM,
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AND HE WILL FEED
THEM-- MY SERVANT DAVID.
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HE WILL FEED THEM
AND BE THEIR SHEPHERD.
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AND I, THE LORD, WILL BE
THEIR GOD, AND MY SERVANT DAVID
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A PRINCE AMONG THEM;
I, THE LORD, HAVE SPOKEN."
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This is what you
would call a dual prophecy.
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I do believe that David will
be in the new heaven and the new
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earth where it says, "The
meek will inherit the earth."
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And God's--you know, David,
he always looked at the people
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of Israel as his sheep.
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When a terrible
plague came, he said, "Lord,
00:16:16.84\00:16:18.74
what have these sheep done?
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Take this out on me
and my father's house."
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So I think David will
have a position of leadership
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in the earth made new, but more
than that, I think it's talking
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about Jesus, the Son of
David, who is the Good Shepherd.
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And Jesus said, "I am the good
shepherd," and He is the Son
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of David, so in a bigger sense I
think it's talking about Christ.
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Jean: And probably, again,
the book that we mentioned
00:16:38.96\00:16:40.90
just previously
called "Spiritual Israel"
00:16:40.93\00:16:42.60
would probably
talk on this as well.
00:16:42.63\00:16:44.13
So, again, to receive
that it's 800-835-6747.
00:16:44.17\00:16:47.90
Or just dial #250,
say "Bible Answers Live,"
00:16:47.94\00:16:51.64
ask for the book. It's
called, "Spiritual Israel."
00:16:51.67\00:16:54.14
We've got Glenn
listening in Ohio.
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Glenn, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Glenn: Good evening and
thank you for taking my call.
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Doug: Yes, sir.
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Glenn: You know, Paul in
his book of 1 Thessalonians 4:17
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was pretty specific when he
said: "THE DEAD IN CHRIST RISE,
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AND THEN WE WHICH
ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN."
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So there's 4000
years of people that are--
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that existed
before the Jesus era.
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My question is what
resurrection will they be in?
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Doug: Yeah, the--you can
read in Revelation chapter 20,
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speaking of the general
resurrection, and it describes
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there are two resurrections.
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Now when I first read
this, I thought, "What?
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I thought everyone just got
raised at the end for judgment."
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But Jesus says, and I'm
quoting two different verses.
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Jesus says in the Gospel of John
the hour is coming in which all
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that are in the graves will
hear His voice and come forth.
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"They that have done
good, the resurrection of life."
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Then He says, "And
they that have done evil,
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the resurrection of damnation."
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Two different resurrections.
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And you read in Revelation
chapter 20 and this is talking
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about, you know, the Millennium,
and it says that, ah,
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let me see, I want verse 5.
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"THE REST OF THE
DEAD LIVE NOT AGAIN
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UNTIL THE THOUSAND
YEARS ARE FINISHED."
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Well, who are
the rest of the dead?
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Well, it says the dead in
Christ rise when Jesus comes.
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So all believers from the time
of Abel and Adam, all the way to
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the Second Coming, with,
you know, a few exceptions like
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Enoch and Elijah and Moses, they
sleep until the Second Coming
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when the Lord descends
from heaven with a shout and
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the voice of the
archangel and the trump of God.
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And they rise.
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The wicked do not
come out of their graves.
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It says the rest of
the dead, they come out
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after the thousand years.
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And then He goes on and
says, "BLESSED AND HOLY IS HE
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THAT HAS PART IN
THE FIRST RESURRECTION."
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Well, where you've
got a first resurrection,
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you must have a second.
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First
resurrection is the righteous,
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second resurrection is the lost.
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We have a study guide.
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Jean: We have a
study guide talk about it.
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Important subject.
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So it's called the "Ultimate
Deliverance," talking about
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the Second Coming of Christ and
it talks about that resurrection
00:19:07.11\00:19:10.11
of the righteous at
the Second Coming and then
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the resurrection of the
wicked at the Third Coming
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at the end of the 1000 years.
00:19:15.62\00:19:17.25
So actually, two study guides.
00:19:17.29\00:19:18.65
The one's called "The
Ultimate Deliverance,"
00:19:18.69\00:19:20.06
talking about the Second Coming.
00:19:20.09\00:19:21.42
Then we have another one called
"1000 Years of Peace," talks
00:19:21.46\00:19:24.76
about the Millennium and then
what happens at the end of that.
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The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:19:26.83\00:19:30.47
That is our resource phone line.
00:19:30.50\00:19:32.00
Ask for that study guide,
"The Ultimate Deliverance,"
00:19:32.03\00:19:34.50
and also "1000 Years of Peace."
00:19:34.54\00:19:36.81
Or dial #250, say
"Bible Answers Live,"
00:19:36.84\00:19:39.77
and just ask
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00:19:39.81\00:19:42.54
Next caller that we have
is Steve listening in Oregon.
00:19:42.58\00:19:44.88
Steve, you're on the air.
00:19:44.91\00:19:46.41
Steve: Yes, I've recently
received one of your DVD
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programs expounding on the
millions and billions of stars
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and galaxies in our universe.
00:19:53.79\00:19:56.49
And also stating in the
kingdom to come we will be able
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to visit other worlds.
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If I understand this correctly,
could it be possible if what we
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might be witnessing today of
UFOs that are from other worlds
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that did not flunk the test
of sin that Adam and Eve failed?
00:20:15.58\00:20:21.35
Doug: First, I'd say do we
believe there's intelligent life
00:20:21.38\00:20:24.15
in other
worlds, unfallen worlds?
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I think absolutely.
00:20:27.62\00:20:29.72
And you can read in the book of
Hebrews chapter 1, the 2nd verse
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of the book of Hebrews, it says:
"GOD HAS IN THESE LAST DAYS
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SPOKEN TO US BY HIS SON,
00:20:36.77\00:20:38.63
WHOM HE HAS
APPOINTED HEIR OF ALL THINGS,
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THROUGH WHOM ALSO
HE MADE THE WORLDS."
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And it's plural there.
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And then you read in Revelation
about all the creatures on Earth
00:20:46.24\00:20:48.44
and all the creatures
above are praising God.
00:20:48.48\00:20:51.25
Book of Job talks about this
heavenly meeting that is not on
00:20:51.28\00:20:55.22
Earth, where Satan also
comes among them and he says,
00:20:55.25\00:20:58.89
"I've come from the Earth."
00:20:58.92\00:21:00.76
So is there intelligent
life outside of planet Earth?
00:21:00.79\00:21:03.49
Absolutely, the cosmos is
virtually infinite and God is
00:21:03.53\00:21:06.23
infinite, so I think it's silly
to say we are the first time God
00:21:06.26\00:21:10.50
thought to create anything,
you know, 6000 years ago.
00:21:10.53\00:21:14.80
But the unfallen worlds, I
think our planet is quarantined
00:21:14.84\00:21:19.21
because of sin.
00:21:19.24\00:21:21.11
The only interaction we have is
with the hospital staff, that'd
00:21:21.14\00:21:24.61
be God and the angels.
00:21:24.65\00:21:26.72
So I don't think, you
know, if there's UFOs and people
00:21:26.75\00:21:30.45
are seeing things, it
could be optical illusions
00:21:30.49\00:21:32.59
or it could be demonic.
00:21:32.62\00:21:34.52
I mean, Satan
can--he's an angel of light.
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Sometimes, Satan can
create illusions and delusions.
00:21:36.62\00:21:39.86
So, I hope that helps a little
bit, but what do you think,
00:21:39.89\00:21:44.47
Pastor Ross?
00:21:44.50\00:21:45.90
Jean: Yeah, absolutely.
00:21:45.93\00:21:47.24
You know, I'm looking,
Pastor Doug, do we have a book
00:21:47.27\00:21:48.70
talking about UFOs?
00:21:48.74\00:21:50.04
We might have to get
one because we do get
00:21:50.07\00:21:51.44
a lot of
questions on that, yeah.
00:21:51.47\00:21:53.11
'Course, the Bible does say--
00:21:53.14\00:21:54.74
Doug: You know, I have a
sermon--I'm sorry, go ahead.
00:21:54.78\00:21:56.21
Jean: I was just going to
mention the Bible does say that
00:21:56.24\00:21:57.81
the devil can transform himself
into an angel of light, so
00:21:57.85\00:21:59.85
wouldn't be very hard for him
to, you know, use these UFOs,
00:21:59.88\00:22:02.78
and if you look at, at least the
popular idea of what a UFO is
00:22:02.82\00:22:05.92
or an alien, it always
presents them as very strange
00:22:05.95\00:22:10.09
and, you know--
00:22:10.13\00:22:12.53
Doug: They're
skinny with big heads.
00:22:12.56\00:22:14.20
Jean: Yeah, I mean, they're
not exactly angelic beings, so.
00:22:14.23\00:22:17.97
Doug: You know, I have a
sermon online if you just
00:22:18.00\00:22:19.93
YouTube "Doug Batchelor.
00:22:19.97\00:22:21.94
Is there life in other worlds?"
00:22:21.97\00:22:24.11
And it's a few years ago.
00:22:24.14\00:22:26.34
It's not looking much better
then but it's actually, I think,
00:22:26.37\00:22:28.81
a good message, taking
what the Bible says about that.
00:22:28.84\00:22:31.18
Jean: All right,
great, thank you.
00:22:31.21\00:22:32.68
Junith in Nevada.
00:22:32.71\00:22:34.08
Junith, welcome to the program.
00:22:34.12\00:22:35.62
Junith: Hello, a blessed evening
00:22:35.65\00:22:38.69
to you both, Pastor
Doug and Pastor Jean.
00:22:38.72\00:22:42.19
I have a question.
00:22:42.22\00:22:44.53
I cannot find, I don't
know if I missed the mark
00:22:44.56\00:22:48.76
but I'm looking for the fruit.
00:22:48.80\00:22:52.17
What is that fruit which is the
fruit of the tree of knowledge
00:22:52.20\00:22:55.74
of good and evil?
00:22:55.77\00:22:57.31
Is that an apple?
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Is it another kind of fruit?
00:22:58.77\00:23:00.98
Thank you.
00:23:01.01\00:23:02.74
Doug: Yeah, thank you, Junith.
00:23:02.78\00:23:04.55
You know, people often
picture--they talk about
00:23:04.58\00:23:07.62
Eve eating the apple, and
I understand Apple computer,
00:23:07.65\00:23:11.15
you know, it's a
picture of an apple
00:23:11.19\00:23:12.49
with one bite out of it--it's--
00:23:12.52\00:23:14.39
Jean: It's always red, a
red apple, for some reason.
00:23:14.42\00:23:16.76
Doug: So, you know, that's
become sort of a logo for Eve
00:23:16.79\00:23:20.96
eating the forbidden
fruit, but nowhere in the Bible
00:23:20.96\00:23:24.70
does it call it an apple.
00:23:24.73\00:23:26.97
The old English word for any
kind of fruit would be "apple."
00:23:27.00\00:23:29.97
And even when the Bible talks
about the apple of your eye,
00:23:30.01\00:23:33.34
it means at the center.
00:23:33.38\00:23:35.04
So it wasn't the typical
McIntosh or Red Delicious
00:23:35.08\00:23:38.45
or Fuji apple.
00:23:38.48\00:23:40.15
No, no, it's not--it doesn't
say what kind of fruit it was.
00:23:40.18\00:23:42.38
For all we know, it looked
like a cross between a pineapple
00:23:42.42\00:23:45.35
and a pear and a banana.
00:23:45.39\00:23:46.82
We don't know.
00:23:46.86\00:23:48.29
It probably was beautiful.
00:23:48.32\00:23:50.29
It says it was, you know, good
to look at, very attractive.
00:23:50.33\00:23:52.99
I think it looked much
better than the average apple.
00:23:53.03\00:23:55.06
Doesn't describe
the color, though,
00:23:55.10\00:23:57.13
doesn't describe the shape.
00:23:57.17\00:23:58.93
It may have even
tasted great at first,
00:23:58.97\00:24:02.07
like all forbidden fruit, right?
00:24:02.10\00:24:03.67
Taste good at first.
00:24:03.71\00:24:05.51
But the effect of that was
devastating to the human race.
00:24:05.54\00:24:09.81
So, no, it's not
a sin to eat apples.
00:24:09.84\00:24:12.61
You know, that's why they say
with a man and you got this lump
00:24:12.65\00:24:15.85
in your throat, they call it the
Adam's apple because he took the
00:24:15.88\00:24:18.45
fruit that Eve gave him and I
guess a piece got stuck there.
00:24:18.49\00:24:21.16
That's the story, anyway.
00:24:21.19\00:24:23.06
Jean: All right.
00:24:23.09\00:24:24.66
Doug: Thanks, Junith.
00:24:24.69\00:24:26.13
Jean: Next caller
that we have is Anastasia
00:24:26.16\00:24:27.66
listening from Canada.
00:24:27.73\00:24:29.36
Anastasia,
welcome to the program.
00:24:29.40\00:24:32.00
Anastasia: Hi, hi,
Pastor Doug, hi, Pastor Ross.
00:24:32.03\00:24:34.97
Doug: Hi, how are you?
00:24:35.00\00:24:36.37
Anastasia: I'm good.
00:24:36.40\00:24:37.71
I hope you're doing well.
00:24:37.74\00:24:39.27
My question was
about the four creatures
00:24:39.31\00:24:41.18
that John saw in the vision.
00:24:41.21\00:24:44.88
Are they symbolic or are there
actually, like, four creatures
00:24:44.91\00:24:48.18
in heaven today in front of the
throne with eyes all over them?
00:24:48.22\00:24:51.59
Doug: Yeah, well, I think--I
think they're symbols, and
00:24:51.62\00:24:55.66
Revelation plays on a lot of the
symbols you find other places
00:24:55.69\00:24:59.89
in the Bible.
00:24:59.93\00:25:01.56
And it's in Ezekiel chapter 1,
he describes these four living
00:25:01.60\00:25:06.10
creatures that are almost
identical to the creatures that
00:25:06.13\00:25:10.17
you find there in Revelation.
00:25:10.21\00:25:12.11
And there's been great debate
and discussion on what these
00:25:12.14\00:25:16.85
creatures represent, you know,
they'd be kind of bizarre, as
00:25:16.88\00:25:20.62
one's got, like, you know, a
man's face and they got wings
00:25:20.65\00:25:23.49
and eyes and--hooves
and wheels within wheels
00:25:23.52\00:25:27.99
and there's a lot
of symbolism in there.
00:25:28.02\00:25:30.26
And Pastor Ross, he and I maybe
have a slightly different view
00:25:30.29\00:25:34.56
on this but I think
both may be applicable.
00:25:34.60\00:25:38.23
Many of the church
fathers believe that these four
00:25:38.27\00:25:41.27
creatures are
different attributes of Jesus,
00:25:41.30\00:25:44.44
that you see in the Gospels
where, you know, the lion is
00:25:44.47\00:25:49.11
Jesus being presented in
the book of Matthew as a King.
00:25:49.14\00:25:53.65
It was written for the Jews.
00:25:53.68\00:25:55.22
He's the Messiah.
00:25:55.25\00:25:56.92
And in Mark, it was appealing
to the Gentiles, the Greeks,
00:25:56.95\00:26:00.36
and Jesus is portrayed the speed
and the vision of the eagle.
00:26:00.39\00:26:05.09
And Mark is a very quick
Gospel, if you've read it.
00:26:05.13\00:26:08.40
In Luke, you've
got the physician.
00:26:08.43\00:26:10.40
There you have Jesus, the man.
00:26:10.43\00:26:12.57
And in John, you've got
Jesus who is the sacrifice.
00:26:12.60\00:26:16.67
And so, that's one way
some people have viewed it.
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female: We were living in
Phoenix at the time, a big
00:26:40.90\00:26:43.57
metropolitan area, and you
started watching the Millennium
00:26:43.60\00:26:48.84
series and so then we would pick
a topic for the weekend and we
00:26:48.87\00:26:52.77
would do a Bible study together
and so we just experienced that
00:26:52.81\00:26:58.18
kind of revival and reformation.
00:26:58.21\00:27:02.42
And so we were changing
lifestyle habits and we got
00:27:02.45\00:27:07.96
pregnant with Niko in 2011.
00:27:07.99\00:27:12.29
male: And we were like, you
know, we just can't get past
00:27:12.33\00:27:15.90
that the principle is saying
that we should come to Canada.
00:27:15.93\00:27:20.00
female: About a month after
we had been here, a little bump
00:27:20.04\00:27:23.97
popped up on Niko's--right
in here, his cheek.
00:27:24.01\00:27:28.58
So I take him to the family
doctor, and the family doctor
00:27:28.61\00:27:32.21
was like, "Oh,
it's probably just a--
00:27:32.25\00:27:34.05
Niko: A cyst. female: A cyst.
00:27:34.08\00:27:36.55
So on December 21, he--we went
in, thinking it would just be
00:27:36.58\00:27:39.22
a day surgery.
00:27:39.25\00:27:41.16
We had planned to leave by,
like, noon and be on our way.
00:27:41.19\00:27:46.76
The plastic surgeon came out
after the surgery and told us
00:27:46.80\00:27:52.40
that it was not a cyst.
00:27:52.43\00:27:54.34
It became very clear once
they went in there that it was
00:27:54.37\00:27:56.37
a cancerous tumor and--
00:27:56.40\00:27:58.61
male: With a very--
female: --poor prognosis.
00:27:58.64\00:28:02.04
It was very scary.
00:28:02.08\00:28:04.51
So a lot of this year
has been chemo treatments
00:28:04.55\00:28:09.72
which will leave him not feeling
well or his immune system
00:28:09.75\00:28:13.99
gets wiped out.
00:28:14.02\00:28:15.92
So then we have to do
a lot of church at home,
00:28:15.96\00:28:18.06
so Amazing Adventures, right?
00:28:18.09\00:28:22.70
We watched a lot of that
for home church and that's been
00:28:22.73\00:28:27.24
really interesting and fun for
him and his brother, and us as
00:28:27.27\00:28:32.84
a family, to watch and we're so
thankful for stuff like that to
00:28:32.87\00:28:37.05
be so that we can still
have a Sabbath experience
00:28:37.08\00:28:40.38
even though we have to be home.
00:28:40.42\00:28:42.58
So it's been good
for our hearts to see him
00:28:42.62\00:28:44.62
really connect with Pastor Doug.
00:28:44.65\00:28:47.49
male: Pastor Doug's Amazing
Adventures really resonate with
00:28:47.52\00:28:50.66
him because he mixes the
stories with the Bible and
00:28:50.69\00:28:55.53
the Amazing Facts about history
and Niko really likes history
00:28:55.56\00:28:59.77
and so we've ran into
some people who mentioned
00:28:59.80\00:29:04.37
that Pastor Doug
00:29:04.41\00:29:06.37
would be here to, well, to
preach, and Niko got excited.
00:29:06.41\00:29:10.61
Niko: Like,
immediately, I was, like,
00:29:10.65\00:29:12.28
"Okay, yeah, I want to go."
00:29:12.31\00:29:14.75
male: Depending on how his
blood counts are, it affects if
00:29:14.78\00:29:18.25
he gets chemo certain times, and
so you never know in the future
00:29:18.29\00:29:21.49
what days will line up with
what, and it turned out that
00:29:21.52\00:29:25.36
this week was going to be
a 5-day chemo which we were
00:29:25.39\00:29:28.36
bummed about because
that means most likely
00:29:28.40\00:29:30.97
he won't feel up to coming.
00:29:31.00\00:29:32.93
So, you know, we'll
just watch it from home.
00:29:32.97\00:29:34.97
Easy enough to do.
00:29:35.00\00:29:36.81
Niko: I had chemo and I felt
sick but I still wanted to come.
00:29:36.84\00:29:40.68
male: He said he wanted
to go, and so I'm a little
00:29:40.71\00:29:44.11
concerned 'cause you never know
when, you know, how he'd feel,
00:29:44.15\00:29:46.98
and he does
throw up on occasion.
00:29:47.02\00:29:50.02
So that night, he's like,
"I want to sit up front and,
00:29:50.05\00:29:52.49
you know, I think
I'm feeling good enough."
00:29:52.52\00:29:54.49
Niko: I was real excited
that I could actually see him.
00:29:54.52\00:29:58.33
It just--it would be a
good feeling, and something
00:29:58.36\00:30:02.66
I wouldn't forget for the
rest of my life, if I did.
00:30:02.70\00:30:08.24
all: We are the
Corseys and thank you
00:30:08.27\00:30:10.37
for changing our lives.
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Doug: Listening friends, we are
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We're going to take some
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Next caller that we have
is Russell, and Russell is
00:31:30.59\00:31:32.79
listening in California.
00:31:32.82\00:31:34.26
Russell, you're on the air.
00:31:34.29\00:31:36.02
Russell: Yeah, my name is
Russell and I have a question.
00:31:36.06\00:31:39.43
It's: "WAS THERE A CONNECTION
BETWEEN THE TOWER OF BABEL
00:31:39.46\00:31:47.64
AND BABYLON?"
00:31:47.67\00:31:49.14
Doug: Great question.
00:31:49.17\00:31:50.77
Yes, the word
"Babel" and Babylon,
00:31:50.81\00:31:55.34
they're actually connected.
00:31:55.38\00:31:56.95
I've understood that the term
"Babylon" meant, like, gate of
00:31:56.98\00:32:00.98
heaven, where the word "babel"
is connected with the word
00:32:01.02\00:32:04.42
"confusion" and that's where
we get the modern word for baby
00:32:04.45\00:32:07.86
and babbling,
because a baby babbles.
00:32:07.89\00:32:13.73
In many languages, baby is a
bébé, but in any event, the site
00:32:13.76\00:32:21.44
of the Tower of Babel is
the same place where the ancient
00:32:21.47\00:32:26.51
city of Babylon was built
and there was a historian called
00:32:26.54\00:32:30.55
Herodotus that said that
King Nebuchadnezzar, when he was
00:32:30.58\00:32:34.62
building his temple, they took
some of the ancient stones from
00:32:34.65\00:32:39.19
the original Tower of Babel and
they used it as interior fill
00:32:39.22\00:32:42.79
to build up the ziggurat
that Nebuchadnezzar built.
00:32:42.82\00:32:46.53
And so, they were
in the same location
00:32:46.56\00:32:48.93
and they're in Mesopotamia.
00:32:48.96\00:32:51.00
Jean: And of course,
the city of Babel or Babylon
00:32:51.03\00:32:53.23
has some symbolic significance.
00:32:53.27\00:32:55.70
You find it very early in the
Old Testament and it represents
00:32:55.74\00:32:58.91
a confusion of religion and
opposition to the truth, and
00:32:58.94\00:33:01.74
then you find Babylon appearing
in the Old--well, in the New
00:33:01.78\00:33:03.68
Testament, in a symbolic
form, in Revelation chapter 17.
00:33:03.71\00:33:07.75
So, Babylon represents the
enemies of God and the confusion
00:33:07.78\00:33:11.62
of religion, whereas Jerusalem
would represent a worship
00:33:11.65\00:33:14.79
of the true God.
00:33:14.82\00:33:16.42
And the truth is found in the
law--I mean, the Word of God.
00:33:16.46\00:33:18.76
So, sometimes, the Old
Testament has been referred to
00:33:18.79\00:33:21.60
as the tale of two
cities, Babylon and Jerusalem.
00:33:21.63\00:33:24.73
Very interesting
symbolism that we see there.
00:33:24.77\00:33:27.07
Right, next caller
that we have is Efrank,
00:33:27.10\00:33:28.90
listening in New York.
00:33:28.94\00:33:30.51
Efrank, welcome to the program.
00:33:30.54\00:33:32.14
Efrank: Yes, thank you Pastor
Ross and Pastor Batchelor,
00:33:32.17\00:33:37.15
for taking my call this evening.
00:33:37.18\00:33:39.25
I want to ask a question that
00:33:39.28\00:33:41.52
I can't really
decipher from Scripture.
00:33:41.55\00:33:43.89
It's something that I've been
trying to figure out but I can't
00:33:43.92\00:33:47.99
figure it out too well.
00:33:48.02\00:33:49.82
It has to do with the
Old Testament and Jesus:
00:33:49.86\00:33:54.93
"IS THERE ANY
SCRIPTURE OR PASSAGES IN
00:33:54.93\00:33:57.93
THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT
INDICATE THAT JESUS WAS
00:33:57.97\00:34:01.44
GOING TO HAVE A
MINISTRY WITH THE 12 DISCIPLES?"
00:34:01.47\00:34:06.07
Is it predicted in the
Old Testament as a fact that
00:34:06.11\00:34:09.44
that was going to occur
or is that the Old Testament
00:34:09.48\00:34:12.15
and New Testament are different
covenants that do not indicate
00:34:12.18\00:34:15.72
what was going to
happen in general?
00:34:15.75\00:34:18.75
Doug: Yeah, I appreciate that.
00:34:18.79\00:34:20.59
You know, probably one of the
places that you could look for
00:34:20.62\00:34:24.29
a parallel in the Old Testament
was the Bible tells us that
00:34:24.33\00:34:29.26
Moses had 12 princes and they
chose 12 representatives for the
00:34:29.30\00:34:33.80
12 tribes when he was leading
them to the Promised Land.
00:34:33.84\00:34:36.37
And he had 70 elders.
00:34:36.40\00:34:38.81
Well, Jesus had 12
apostles and He had 70 disciples
00:34:38.84\00:34:43.14
that He sent out, the
Gospel of Luke tells us.
00:34:43.18\00:34:45.95
I'm trying to think if there was
any, you know, it talks about
00:34:45.98\00:34:49.15
the teaching ministry of Jesus
in the Old Testament but I don't
00:34:49.18\00:34:52.09
know that it says, "And
He would have 12 apostles."
00:34:52.12\00:34:54.52
So there's no specific
prophecy that said that,
00:34:54.56\00:34:57.03
but we do see parallels.
00:34:57.06\00:34:58.83
We do see King Solomon and
David surrounded themselves with
00:34:58.86\00:35:03.16
leadership in the number
12, or divisions of that number.
00:35:03.20\00:35:08.40
And there were, like, you know,
12 cycles of priests or they're
00:35:08.44\00:35:12.97
at 24, that's where
you get the number 144,000
00:35:13.01\00:35:15.68
is 12 times 12,000.
00:35:15.71\00:35:18.31
There were--many people count
when you look at the Judges, if
00:35:18.35\00:35:22.75
you include Samuel as one of the
judges, there were 12 judges.
00:35:22.78\00:35:25.29
So, you see that number is a
number that represented God's
00:35:25.32\00:35:29.49
people, and I think even Peter
says, "I'm sending a letter to
00:35:29.52\00:35:34.00
the 12 tribes," and he's using
it there to talk to the church,
00:35:34.00\00:35:37.47
but he calls them the 12 tribes.
00:35:37.50\00:35:39.20
Jean: So the number 12 we
find in the Bible represents
00:35:39.23\00:35:41.47
God's people: Old
Testament, 12 tribes;
00:35:41.50\00:35:44.14
New Testament, 12 apostles.
00:35:44.17\00:35:45.81
And of course, we find in
Revelation chapter 12 that there
00:35:45.84\00:35:48.88
is a woman representing
the church and she has a crown
00:35:48.91\00:35:51.18
of 12 stars so, again, 12
connected with God's people.
00:35:51.21\00:35:55.02
All right, next caller that we
have is Abby, listening in Utah.
00:35:55.05\00:35:57.82
Abby, welcome to the program.
00:35:57.85\00:35:59.89
Abby: Hi, my name is Abby.
00:35:59.92\00:36:03.73
My Bible question is: "WHY
DO MOST PEOPLE CHOOSE SUNDAY
00:36:03.76\00:36:08.66
AS THEIR HOLY DAY
INSTEAD OF SATURDAY?"
00:36:08.70\00:36:11.60
Doug: Yeah, all right,
thank you, good question.
00:36:11.63\00:36:13.84
First of all, in the Bible the
Jews did not use the names that
00:36:13.87\00:36:18.24
we typically use today for,
you know, we use names connected
00:36:18.27\00:36:21.61
with Roman and Greek deities.
00:36:21.64\00:36:24.38
Sunday, the sun was
the principal god that was
00:36:24.41\00:36:27.88
worshiped, even
in the Egyptians.
00:36:27.92\00:36:30.32
Monday's moon day,
Wednesday was Odin's day,
00:36:30.35\00:36:34.52
Thursday was Thor's
day, Saturday was Saturn day.
00:36:34.56\00:36:37.89
The Bible, they called it first,
second, third, fourth, fifth,
00:36:37.93\00:36:41.80
and the sixth was called
preparation day, preparation
00:36:41.83\00:36:45.23
for the Sabbath, seventh
day was called the Sabbath day.
00:36:45.27\00:36:48.27
But they used numbers.
00:36:48.30\00:36:50.04
And so, God blessed the seventh
day of the week, that's the day
00:36:50.07\00:36:53.71
we normally call Saturday.
00:36:53.74\00:36:55.98
Jesus rose on the first day
of the week, there's no question
00:36:56.01\00:36:58.95
that He rose on what
we would call Sunday,
00:36:58.98\00:37:01.55
but did He ever change the
Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday?
00:37:01.58\00:37:06.32
Well, there's no verse
in the Scripture anywhere
00:37:06.35\00:37:09.22
where we are commanded to
keep Sunday as a holy day.
00:37:09.26\00:37:12.46
Some people have looked at
a couple of verses in the New
00:37:12.49\00:37:15.56
Testament that mention the first
day of the week and they had
00:37:15.60\00:37:17.87
gatherings but it also says
they gathered every day in other
00:37:17.90\00:37:22.00
places, so Sunday keeping really
came from traditions that began
00:37:22.04\00:37:27.21
to grow several hundred years
after Jesus and the apostles and
00:37:27.24\00:37:30.58
they're not based on any
commandment in the Bible.
00:37:30.61\00:37:33.28
Jean: We have a study guide.
00:37:33.31\00:37:34.98
It's called "The Lost Day
of History," and it talks about
00:37:35.02\00:37:36.65
the Sabbath and Sunday
and how the change occurred.
00:37:36.69\00:37:39.35
We'll be happy
to send that again
00:37:39.39\00:37:40.72
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:37:40.76\00:37:42.16
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00:37:42.19\00:37:48.10
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00:37:48.13\00:37:51.47
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00:37:51.50\00:37:53.64
All right, we've got
John listening in Ohio.
00:37:53.67\00:37:55.80
John, welcome to the program.
00:37:55.84\00:37:58.71
John: Yes, good
evening, Pastors.
00:37:58.74\00:38:00.94
Doug: Evening.
00:38:00.98\00:38:02.38
John: My question is:
"ARE THE JEWS THAT WE SEE
00:38:02.41\00:38:04.78
IN JERUSALEM NOW, ARE
THEY THE ONES THAT CAME OUT
00:38:04.81\00:38:07.12
OF THE EXODUS OR
ARE THEY EUROPEANS
00:38:07.15\00:38:10.35
WHO CONVERTED OVER TO
JUDAISM AND MOVED BACK
00:38:10.39\00:38:14.42
TO JERUSALEM AFTER IT
WAS ABANDONED BY THE ROMANS?"
00:38:14.46\00:38:17.66
Doug: Yeah, well, what
happened is the Romans scattered
00:38:17.69\00:38:22.10
the Jews and God
foretold this would happen.
00:38:22.13\00:38:25.07
They called it the diaspora.
00:38:25.10\00:38:27.27
The Jews really--that's
where you get the idea
00:38:27.30\00:38:29.47
of the wandering Jew.
00:38:29.50\00:38:31.27
Ten of the tribes of Israel
were carried off to Assyria long
00:38:31.31\00:38:35.14
before Jesus was born.
00:38:35.18\00:38:37.48
And sometimes, they refer
to them as the ten lost tribes.
00:38:37.51\00:38:40.48
Well, they weren't really lost.
00:38:40.52\00:38:42.38
They largely intermarried with
the Assyrians and, you know,
00:38:42.42\00:38:45.72
they pretty much were absorbed,
whereas the Jews and that comes
00:38:45.75\00:38:50.03
from the tribe of Judah
is where you get the word,
00:38:50.06\00:38:52.43
they were scattered but they
continued to live in enclaves.
00:38:52.46\00:38:56.56
This is where we
get the word "ghetto."
00:38:56.60\00:38:58.43
In Italy, they made all the Jews
live in a place called Ghetto
00:38:58.47\00:39:00.94
and now we use that
word to talk about, you know,
00:39:00.97\00:39:04.61
all kinds of ethnic ghettos but
it was really a Jewish enclave
00:39:04.64\00:39:07.88
because they had
to go before dark.
00:39:07.91\00:39:10.11
They had to be
back in their city.
00:39:10.15\00:39:11.91
Terribly persecuted, but
they did largely remain unique
00:39:11.95\00:39:14.88
and
intermarried with other Jews.
00:39:14.92\00:39:16.69
They were very
careful about that.
00:39:16.72\00:39:18.82
There was some
intermarriage with other races.
00:39:18.85\00:39:21.96
You can tell
from Jewish DNA today.
00:39:21.99\00:39:24.16
But we know with some certainty
because of DNA that the Jews
00:39:24.19\00:39:28.40
and their--you know, they've got
some influence and some blood
00:39:28.43\00:39:32.70
from people they've lived among
around the world, but they are
00:39:32.73\00:39:36.20
the original Jews that were the
Semitic people that lived in the
00:39:36.24\00:39:40.31
land of Israel and, yes, many
of them did end up in Russia,
00:39:40.34\00:39:45.08
in Germany, in Europe and
Italy, and everywhere you go
00:39:45.11\00:39:49.55
in the world now you can
find a synagogue just about.
00:39:49.58\00:39:52.25
Jean: And if--I think we
mentioned this last week,
00:39:52.29\00:39:54.39
the largest concentration of
Jews in the world today in not
00:39:54.42\00:39:56.93
in Israel but
actually in the United States.
00:39:56.96\00:39:59.13
And then second would be Israel.
00:39:59.16\00:40:01.70
Doug: Hotspots in North
America would be New York City,
00:40:01.73\00:40:04.07
Florida, and in Los
Angeles, and then Chicago.
00:40:04.10\00:40:09.54
So, and then I
think 40% are in Israel.
00:40:09.57\00:40:13.17
The rest are
scattered around the planet.
00:40:13.21\00:40:15.61
But, yeah, they are
the Jews of the Bible.
00:40:15.64\00:40:18.71
Now, are the people living
in Egypt now the same ones
00:40:18.75\00:40:22.28
that built the pyramids?
00:40:22.32\00:40:23.99
No, that's a
completely different race.
00:40:24.02\00:40:26.39
So, I just thought I'd
share that since you're asking.
00:40:26.42\00:40:29.39
Jean: And if you'd like to
learn more about what the Bible
00:40:29.42\00:40:31.46
says about this, we've got a
book called "Spiritual Israel,"
00:40:31.49\00:40:34.46
and of course we'll send that
to anyone who calls and asks:
00:40:34.50\00:40:36.30
800-835-6747.
00:40:36.33\00:40:39.37
Ask for the book.
00:40:39.40\00:40:41.04
It's called, "Spiritual
Israel," or dial #250,
00:40:41.07\00:40:43.41
say "Bible Answers Live,"
and then "Spiritual Israel."
00:40:43.44\00:40:46.84
Rebecca in Michigan,
Rebecca, you are on the air.
00:40:46.88\00:40:49.51
Welcome.
00:40:49.54\00:40:51.18
Rebecca: Hello,
how are you guys doing?
00:40:51.21\00:40:52.88
Doug: Good.
Thank you for calling.
00:40:52.91\00:40:54.42
What's your question tonight?
00:40:54.45\00:40:58.22
Rebecca: I have a question.
00:40:58.25\00:41:00.62
I'm having physical and mental
health problems, adversities and
00:41:00.66\00:41:06.46
it brings along
with spiritual problems.
00:41:06.49\00:41:08.86
I need prayer and a couple Bible
verses to get my mind off it.
00:41:08.90\00:41:12.43
Doug: All right,
well, ooh, let's see
00:41:12.47\00:41:13.90
if we can help you with that.
00:41:13.94\00:41:15.44
We'll pray in just a moment
but some Bible verses would be:
00:41:15.47\00:41:18.01
Jesus said, "LET NOT
YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED."
00:41:18.04\00:41:21.64
This is John chapter 14.
00:41:21.68\00:41:23.61
"LET NOT YOUR HEART BE
TROUBLED," neither let it be
00:41:23.65\00:41:25.61
afraid, "YOU BELIEVE IN
GOD, BELIEVE ALSO IN ME.
00:41:25.65\00:41:28.82
IN MY FATHER'S
HOUSE ARE MANY MANSIONS.
00:41:28.85\00:41:31.22
I GO TO PREPARE
A PLACE FOR YOU."
00:41:31.25\00:41:32.99
Don't let the troubles of
this world frighten you because
00:41:33.02\00:41:36.89
if you give your life to
Christ, this world's temporary.
00:41:36.93\00:41:40.53
God's offering you a
world that lasts forever.
00:41:40.56\00:41:43.13
The Bible says that
God offers us a peace
00:41:43.16\00:41:45.33
that passes understanding.
00:41:45.37\00:41:47.44
I recommend you read
the book of Philippians.
00:41:47.47\00:41:50.57
I just finished reading
Philippians or I'm almost done.
00:41:50.61\00:41:53.17
And it's just a book of joy.
00:41:53.21\00:41:55.31
And it--Paul just says he's
bubbling over with joy and why
00:41:55.34\00:41:59.68
Christians should have joy and
peace that passes understanding.
00:41:59.71\00:42:03.05
So you do that, Rebecca, and
let me pray for you right now,
00:42:03.08\00:42:06.39
and those
listening can join as well.
00:42:06.42\00:42:09.32
Father in heaven, we just
want to lift a prayer right now
00:42:09.36\00:42:11.69
in behalf of
Rebecca and give her peace.
00:42:11.73\00:42:15.43
I pray that You'll just chase
away the clouds or any evil
00:42:15.46\00:42:19.00
influence that might be
tormenting her and giving her
00:42:19.03\00:42:22.14
distress, and I pray Your Spirit
will be released in her life and
00:42:22.17\00:42:25.67
just help her to sense Your
presence, Your angels about her,
00:42:25.71\00:42:28.74
and peace in her heart.
00:42:28.78\00:42:30.11
We ask in Jesus's name, amen.
00:42:30.15\00:42:32.85
Jean: Amen.
00:42:32.88\00:42:34.38
Pastor Doug, we have a book.
00:42:34.42\00:42:35.78
It's called, "Peace in the Midst
of the Storm," and we'll be
00:42:35.82\00:42:39.45
happy to send that to anyone who
calls and asks, 800-835-6747.
00:42:39.49\00:42:44.03
"How to Have Peace
in a World of Worry."
00:42:44.06\00:42:47.03
Doug: Yeah, that's
what I was going to say.
00:42:47.10\00:42:48.36
Jean: That's
exactly what it is, yeah.
00:42:48.40\00:42:49.70
Doug: Yeah, I got
the book on worry.
00:42:49.73\00:42:51.03
Jean: We've got a picture of
rain on the front, so I thought
00:42:51.07\00:42:52.77
storm, but it's actually, yeah--
00:42:52.80\00:42:54.10
Doug: I think
you're getting the sermon
00:42:54.14\00:42:55.44
mixed up with the book, yeah.
00:42:55.47\00:42:56.77
Jean: I think that's what it is.
00:42:56.81\00:42:58.11
Doug: I have a book and
it's called, "How to Have Peace
00:42:58.14\00:42:59.71
in a World of Worry."
00:42:59.74\00:43:01.11
And that will
bring you peace, Rebecca.
00:43:01.14\00:43:02.44
I think it'll help.
It's free if you ask for it.
00:43:02.48\00:43:04.51
Jean: 800-835-6747, again, is
the number and, of course, you
00:43:04.55\00:43:07.08
can dial #250, ask for
the book, "How to Have Peace
00:43:07.12\00:43:11.05
in a World of Worry."
00:43:11.09\00:43:13.15
We've got Sean
listening in Michigan.
00:43:13.19\00:43:15.49
Sean, welcome to the program.
00:43:15.52\00:43:17.83
Sean: Thank you so
much for taking my call.
00:43:17.86\00:43:19.79
Doug: Yeah.
00:43:19.83\00:43:21.10
Sean: I have a question in
regard to the timing of the 7th
00:43:21.13\00:43:24.37
year of the King Artaxerxes.
00:43:24.40\00:43:27.20
I've often heard it's 457 BC,
but someone has sent me, like,
00:43:27.24\00:43:31.34
an introduction to the book of
Nehemiah and it was from, like,
00:43:31.37\00:43:34.91
a certain analytical Bible
dictionary, and it said that
00:43:34.94\00:43:38.18
that was 458 BC, and I didn't
know if there's any way to
00:43:38.21\00:43:41.12
verify that from other
historical sources, but I wanted
00:43:41.15\00:43:44.22
to make sure it is 457 BC
because I know that relates
00:43:44.25\00:43:47.26
to the same
prophecy in Daniel 8 and 9.
00:43:47.29\00:43:50.83
Doug: Yeah, well, first of
all, when you're looking back
00:43:50.86\00:43:54.46
2500 years, if you're 6 months
off, you're doing pretty good.
00:43:54.50\00:44:02.24
So don't--I
wouldn't stress over it.
00:44:02.27\00:44:05.04
But I believe it's 457 in
the history that I've read and
00:44:05.07\00:44:11.35
Pastor Ross, you might have
some other references at your
00:44:11.38\00:44:14.32
fingertips but, you know, I've
read a lot of books about this
00:44:14.35\00:44:18.09
because that year's actually
pivotal for pinpointing not only
00:44:18.12\00:44:22.86
the Crucifixion of Jesus and
the stoning of Stephen and the
00:44:22.89\00:44:27.50
baptism of Jesus but you
could even go backwards 30 years
00:44:27.50\00:44:31.50
knowing that Christ would begin
His ministry at 30 and get the
00:44:31.53\00:44:33.57
birth of Jesus.
00:44:33.60\00:44:35.44
And so, the only way it works
is if it's 457 but that's not
00:44:35.47\00:44:39.67
the reason we
believe it happened.
00:44:39.71\00:44:41.61
I think that it's
documented in history.
00:44:41.64\00:44:44.65
Now, there were three decrees
that talked about restoring
00:44:44.68\00:44:47.78
and building Jerusalem.
00:44:47.82\00:44:49.48
The final one is the
decree of Artaxerxes.
00:44:49.52\00:44:51.62
You find it here,
I'm looking at it now,
00:44:51.65\00:44:53.29
in Ezra chapter 7, verse 12.
00:44:53.32\00:44:55.96
And I'm sure
you've seen that, Sean.
00:44:55.99\00:44:57.89
Jean: And I think one of
the things in addition to what
00:44:57.93\00:45:00.10
Pastor Doug said, how we know
it's 457, is if you do the math
00:45:00.13\00:45:03.26
and you go back into New
Testament times, we know, based
00:45:03.30\00:45:06.10
upon the account given by Luke,
we know when Jesus was baptized
00:45:06.13\00:45:09.87
and you trace that back and that
was 27 AD, and the only date
00:45:09.90\00:45:13.74
that'll work if you follow
the prophecy in Daniel 9, it has
00:45:13.78\00:45:17.48
to begin in 457 BC in order for
Christ to be baptized in 27 AD
00:45:17.51\00:45:21.95
and then die in 31.
00:45:21.98\00:45:24.22
So, all the pieces fit together.
00:45:24.25\00:45:25.95
Doug: Yeah, one more thought
is the issuing of decrees
00:45:25.99\00:45:29.39
in Bible times,
they did not fax them.
00:45:29.42\00:45:32.43
So the king might actually
sign a decree and it becomes law
00:45:32.46\00:45:36.83
when he signs 'em.
00:45:36.87\00:45:38.60
Ezra may not get it for months
because of the mail system
00:45:38.63\00:45:41.30
from Persia to Israel.
00:45:41.34\00:45:43.54
They had to come by caravan.
00:45:43.57\00:45:45.41
I mean, so things did
not happen overnight there.
00:45:45.44\00:45:47.81
So, there's a lot of factors
and also, when you begin and end
00:45:47.84\00:45:51.81
a year biblically, is a little
different, the way the Persians
00:45:51.85\00:45:55.58
did from the Romans.
00:45:55.62\00:45:57.85
Jean: All right, thank you.
00:45:57.89\00:45:59.42
Next caller that we
have is Jerry in Oregon.
00:45:59.45\00:46:01.49
Jerry, welcome to the program.
00:46:01.52\00:46:03.26
Jerry: Good evening, Pastors.
00:46:03.29\00:46:04.86
Doug: Evening.
00:46:04.89\00:46:06.80
Jerry: My question pertains
to the mark of the beast
00:46:06.83\00:46:09.36
described in Revelation 14.
00:46:09.40\00:46:13.10
Now, obviously, the context of
this is at the end time before
00:46:13.13\00:46:16.50
Jesus's return and
before the Millennium.
00:46:16.54\00:46:19.14
But it says: "THOSE WHO
WORSHIP THE BEAST, THEY WILL
00:46:19.17\00:46:23.31
BE TORMENTED
WITH BURNING SULFUR IN
00:46:23.35\00:46:26.18
THE PRESENCE OF THE
HOLY ANGELS AND OF THE LAMB.
00:46:26.21\00:46:29.15
AND THE SMOKE OF THEIR TORMENT
00:46:29.18\00:46:30.72
WILL RISE FOR EVER AND EVER.
00:46:30.75\00:46:32.29
THERE WILL BE NO REST
DAY OR NIGHT FOR THOSE
00:46:32.32\00:46:34.19
WHO WORSHIP THE
BEAST AND ITS IMAGE."
00:46:34.22\00:46:36.79
Okay, that's
before the Millennium.
00:46:36.83\00:46:40.03
Then Revelation 20 talks
about the resurrection of the
00:46:40.06\00:46:44.53
unrighteous and it says:
"AND THE DEVIL, WHO DECEIVED
00:46:44.57\00:46:49.37
THEM, WAS THROWN INTO
THE LAKE OF BURNING SULFUR,
00:46:49.40\00:46:52.21
WHERE THE BEAST
AND THE FALSE PROPHET
00:46:52.24\00:46:54.08
HAD BEEN THROWN.
00:46:54.11\00:46:56.41
AND THEY WILL BE
TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT
00:46:56.44\00:46:58.58
FOREVER AND EVER."
00:46:58.61\00:46:59.95
And then it
talks about the unjust
00:47:00.05\00:47:01.45
going into the lake of fire.
00:47:01.48\00:47:05.29
This is the second death.
00:47:05.32\00:47:07.26
So my question is:
"ARE THOSE WHO WORSHIP
00:47:07.29\00:47:11.09
THE BEAST, ARE THEY--THEY'RE
NOT--ARE THEY EXCLUDED
00:47:11.13\00:47:15.60
FROM THE
RESURRECTION OF THE UNJUST?
00:47:15.63\00:47:19.37
DO THEY SUFFER A
GREATER TORMENT THAN THE UNJUST
00:47:19.40\00:47:23.14
IN REVELATION 20
00:47:23.17\00:47:25.01
WHO REALIZE THE SECOND
DEATH IN THE LAKE OF FIRE?"
00:47:25.04\00:47:28.38
Doug: Right, you know, I think
what'll solve this is when you
00:47:28.41\00:47:32.31
understand that Revelation
is not written in chronological
00:47:32.35\00:47:36.12
order and what's happening
from one chapter to the next in
00:47:36.15\00:47:39.29
Revelation, they back up--they
cover some of the same time
00:47:39.32\00:47:42.86
period and it's the same
event when it talks about
00:47:42.89\00:47:47.66
in Revelation 14, "They
have no rest day or night."
00:47:47.73\00:47:49.86
It's talking about the
punishment of the wicked.
00:47:49.90\00:47:51.70
But then it uses different
visions to say the same thing.
00:47:51.73\00:47:54.14
There is only one time when the
wicked are cast into the lake
00:47:54.17\00:47:58.51
of fire, and that is the same
time as the devil and the beast
00:47:58.54\00:48:02.71
and the false prophet and
all that follow the devil.
00:48:02.74\00:48:05.38
Now, proof for that would
be is if you look in Matthew 25
00:48:05.41\00:48:10.35
where Jesus tells the parable
of the sheep and the goats.
00:48:10.39\00:48:12.89
He says that those that are
lost, He says to the unbelievers
00:48:12.92\00:48:17.63
and the goats, "Depart from Me,
cursed, into the fire prepared
00:48:17.66\00:48:21.80
for the devil and his angels."
00:48:21.83\00:48:23.40
That's all at one time.
00:48:23.43\00:48:25.03
So, following the Great
White Throne Judgment, there is
00:48:25.07\00:48:28.24
a decree when all of the wicked
are cast into the lake of fire
00:48:28.27\00:48:32.81
and they are punished according
to what each one deserves and it
00:48:32.84\00:48:36.51
says: "The smoke of their
torment, it rises up for ever
00:48:36.54\00:48:40.75
and ever," and that doesn't mean
for ever and ever we're sitting
00:48:40.78\00:48:42.95
there watching people burn.
00:48:42.98\00:48:44.29
That'd be a terrible thought.
00:48:44.32\00:48:46.02
It means it rises up out of
sight as far as you can see.
00:48:46.05\00:48:49.39
And that was a picture they
would see often in ancient wars
00:48:49.42\00:48:52.53
as smoke ascended up
forever, meaning out of sight.
00:48:52.56\00:48:55.76
And that means that there's
no reprieve, no second option.
00:48:55.80\00:49:00.70
It's called the
second death and--
00:49:00.74\00:49:03.47
but it all
happens at the same time.
00:49:03.51\00:49:04.97
Jean: We have a study guide.
00:49:05.01\00:49:06.44
It's called, "Is the
Devil in Charge of Hell?"
00:49:06.47\00:49:08.21
Talks about the
destruction of the wicked and
00:49:08.24\00:49:10.28
covers these Bible verses.
00:49:10.31\00:49:12.05
The number to call is
800-835-6747, ask for the study
00:49:12.08\00:49:15.92
guide that's called, "Is
the Devil in Charge of Hell?"
00:49:15.95\00:49:18.12
You can also dial #250,
say "Bible Answers Live,"
00:49:18.15\00:49:21.26
and then ask for
that study guide.
00:49:21.29\00:49:23.56
Madeline is listening in Nevada.
00:49:23.59\00:49:25.56
Madeline,
welcome to the program.
00:49:25.59\00:49:27.50
Madeline: Hi.
00:49:27.56\00:49:29.23
Okay, my question is
I've been divorced four times.
00:49:29.26\00:49:37.74
My first husband got remarried,
my second husband got remarried,
00:49:37.77\00:49:42.78
my third husband
stayed with the woman
00:49:42.81\00:49:46.01
that he was seeing
while we were married,
00:49:46.05\00:49:48.38
so they're
girlfriend and boyfriend.
00:49:48.42\00:49:50.62
And my fourth
husband got remarried.
00:49:50.65\00:49:52.99
I've been alone,
single, for 25 years.
00:49:53.02\00:49:55.99
I'm in my middle 60s.
00:49:56.02\00:49:58.69
If I met somebody, would it be a
sin for me to get married again?
00:49:58.73\00:50:04.47
Doug: Well, I don't know.
00:50:04.50\00:50:06.53
And it's not because I
don't know what the Bible says.
00:50:06.57\00:50:09.10
You know, this is the
kind of thing where you should
00:50:09.14\00:50:12.54
probably talk to a
pastor and unpack with him
00:50:12.57\00:50:16.75
what some of the
circumstances were.
00:50:16.78\00:50:19.25
You know, for one
thing, I--divorce is not
00:50:19.28\00:50:22.28
the unpardonable sin but
it usually involves sin as it
00:50:22.32\00:50:26.89
usually involves selfishness
or sin on one or both parties.
00:50:26.92\00:50:30.36
You've got the woman that Jesus
spoke to there, of Samaria,
00:50:30.39\00:50:34.73
where she said, "I've had--" She
had five husbands and she was
00:50:34.76\00:50:39.47
living with someone she wasn't
married to, and He reveals
00:50:39.50\00:50:41.07
to her He's the Messiah.
00:50:41.10\00:50:43.00
So, clearly, you know,
there's hope in redemption.
00:50:43.04\00:50:45.41
Now, whether she went home and
married the guy she was living
00:50:45.44\00:50:48.04
with, doesn't say in the Bible,
but I'm hoping she kicked him
00:50:48.08\00:50:50.81
out or married him, 'cause,
you know, God means for marriage
00:50:50.85\00:50:55.22
to be a permanent institution.
00:50:55.25\00:50:57.42
I'm sure that's
what you were hoping for,
00:50:57.45\00:50:58.99
each time that you got married.
00:50:59.02\00:51:01.09
I do have a book I wrote that
talks about some of the nuances
00:51:01.12\00:51:04.16
of this and what the Bible
says about marriage, divorce,
00:51:04.19\00:51:07.30
and remarriage, and
that's the title of the book.
00:51:07.30\00:51:09.36
We'll send you a free
copy if you'd like, Madeline.
00:51:09.40\00:51:11.80
Jean: The book is
called, "Marriage, Divorce,
00:51:11.83\00:51:13.87
and Re-marriage."
00:51:13.90\00:51:15.50
The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:51:15.54\00:51:18.64
Be sure to ask for
that book or just dial #250
00:51:18.67\00:51:21.68
on your smartphone.
00:51:21.71\00:51:23.28
If you're outside of
North America, just go to
00:51:23.31\00:51:25.31
the Amazing Facts website and
you can read the book for free
00:51:25.35\00:51:28.05
right there online.
00:51:28.08\00:51:29.48
Paul is listening in Tennessee.
00:51:29.52\00:51:31.05
Paul, welcome to the program.
00:51:31.09\00:51:33.12
Paul: Yes, evening, Pastors.
00:51:33.15\00:51:34.76
Thank you, I
just had a question.
00:51:34.79\00:51:37.73
I was hoping you guys could just
provide a little clarity here
00:51:37.76\00:51:40.16
on a couple of
verses I'm confused on.
00:51:40.20\00:51:42.40
Just wondering why Jesus says in
Mark 12:27 He is not the God of
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the dead but of the living, and
then in Romans 14:9 Paul says
00:51:49.20\00:51:54.44
basically that He might be Lord
of both the dead and the living.
00:51:54.48\00:51:59.41
So, any clarity
there would be great.
00:51:59.45\00:52:02.12
Doug: Yeah, well, when
it tells us when God says,
00:52:02.15\00:52:05.02
"I'm the God of Abraham, Isaac,
and Jacob, I'm not the God of
00:52:05.05\00:52:07.26
the dead," the Lord
does not look upon the dead
00:52:07.29\00:52:10.96
that are saved as dead.
00:52:10.99\00:52:14.10
He--Jesus said, "The hour
is coming in which all those
00:52:14.13\00:52:17.00
that sleep in
the grave--Jesus said
00:52:17.03\00:52:20.24
"Our friend
Lazarus is sleeping."
00:52:20.27\00:52:22.67
He looks upon saved people that
have what we'd call it death,
00:52:22.70\00:52:27.21
Jesus says, "Well, they're
asleep 'cause I'm going to raise
00:52:27.24\00:52:29.01
them with a glorified body."
00:52:29.04\00:52:30.68
So, that I think helps provide
an understanding, but when Paul
00:52:30.71\00:52:35.72
says He's the God of the
dead and the living, you know,
00:52:35.75\00:52:38.95
clearly, there are
people that are dead.
00:52:38.99\00:52:40.96
And so, Jesus is
speaking more metaphorically
00:52:40.99\00:52:44.43
when He says that, you
know, there's no dead--
00:52:44.46\00:52:46.26
the redeemed are
not viewed as dead.
00:52:46.29\00:52:48.40
Jean: And of course, the
context of that, at least in
00:52:48.43\00:52:50.20
Mark chapter 12, there were the
Sadducees that said there was
00:52:50.23\00:52:54.07
no resurrection, they didn't
believe in the resurrection.
00:52:54.10\00:52:55.44
And Jesus is saying, "Well, if
there's no resurrection, God is
00:52:55.47\00:52:59.37
not the God of the dead but
the God of the living, meaning
00:52:59.41\00:53:01.58
that He will resurrect
those who trust in Him."
00:53:01.61\00:53:04.75
So Christ is reaffirming
the doctrine or the teaching
00:53:04.78\00:53:07.48
of the resurrection.
00:53:07.52\00:53:09.05
Doug: Yeah, and it says
here when Stephen was stoned,
00:53:09.08\00:53:12.32
it says he cried out and
said, "'Lord, do not charge them
00:53:12.35\00:53:14.09
with this sin.'
00:53:14.12\00:53:15.89
And when he said
this, he fell asleep."
00:53:15.92\00:53:18.09
I mean, does that
really mean that he fell asleep
00:53:18.13\00:53:20.66
while they were stoning him?
00:53:20.70\00:53:22.30
Or does it mean he died?
00:53:22.33\00:53:24.67
But he died in a saved
condition so he's just sleeping,
00:53:24.70\00:53:27.17
waiting for the resurrection.
00:53:27.20\00:53:29.07
Pastor Ross, do we have
a quick question, maybe?
00:53:29.10\00:53:31.47
Jean: All right, we can try.
00:53:31.51\00:53:32.91
Who do we have, let's see.
00:53:32.94\00:53:34.54
Here we go:
Bobbie in California.
00:53:34.58\00:53:36.78
Bobbie: Yes, hello.
00:53:36.81\00:53:39.18
My question was
regarding Revelation 3:9.
00:53:39.21\00:53:43.15
I would like some clarity
on this because I'm not sure
00:53:43.18\00:53:46.25
what I'm reading.
00:53:46.29\00:53:48.32
Doug: All right,
let's read that real quick.
00:53:48.36\00:53:50.16
In Revelation chapter 3,
verse 9, it says: "INDEED
00:53:50.19\00:53:53.46
I'LL MAKE THOSE OF
THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN,
00:53:53.50\00:53:56.03
WHO SAY THEY ARE JEWS
AND ARE NOT, BUT LIE--
00:53:56.06\00:53:58.47
INDEED I'LL MAKE THEM
COME AND WORSHIP BEFORE
00:53:58.50\00:54:00.74
YOUR FEET, AND TO KNOW
THAT I HAVE LOVED YOU."
00:54:00.77\00:54:04.01
Well, there was a group
of apostate Christians and,
00:54:04.04\00:54:08.71
you know, true
Christians, Revelation
00:54:08.74\00:54:11.08
calls the children of Israel.
00:54:11.11\00:54:13.01
Counterfeit, it says
the synagogue of Satan.
00:54:13.05\00:54:15.92
And I don't know if these
were some from the tribe--
00:54:15.95\00:54:18.29
the Nicolaitans
which--a thing God hates, but--
00:54:18.32\00:54:21.49
Jean: Yeah, and it's
talking about those who come
00:54:21.52\00:54:23.63
and worship before your feet.
00:54:23.66\00:54:25.46
If you look at the timeframe
here, it is the church of
00:54:25.49\00:54:27.36
Philadelphia when there
was a great revival in studying
00:54:27.40\00:54:30.33
the Bible, in
studying Bible truth.
00:54:30.37\00:54:32.17
It did occur in the protestant
nations of the Earth, around
00:54:32.20\00:54:35.10
the early 1800s in particular,
and it was recognized by other
00:54:35.14\00:54:38.74
nations that God was blessing,
for example, the United States
00:54:38.77\00:54:41.84
and the other
Protestant nations.
00:54:41.88\00:54:44.31
And in that sense, it talks
about those who are opposed
00:54:44.35\00:54:46.58
to the truth will
come to an understanding.
00:54:46.61\00:54:48.32
Doug: Yeah. Very good.
00:54:48.35\00:54:49.88
Hope that helps a little bit.
00:54:49.92\00:54:51.39
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some quick answers.
00:54:51.42\00:54:53.15
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00:55:25.72\00:55:27.06
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And we want to thank those
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So, Pastor Doug, here's our
first question for this evening.
00:55:40.30\00:55:42.90
The question is, Robert
asks: "Christians say that they
00:55:42.94\00:55:46.57
believe in God and if He tells
us to do something He'll give us
00:55:46.61\00:55:50.71
the power to do it, but Jesus
said that we need to be perfect,
00:55:50.75\00:55:53.88
as our Father in heaven.
00:55:53.92\00:55:55.48
How do we do that?"
00:55:55.52\00:55:56.89
Doug: Well, it's not talking
about being perfect as in,
00:55:56.92\00:55:59.82
like, a stainless steel robot.
00:55:59.85\00:56:01.89
If you read that same verse
there in the Gospel of Luke,
00:56:01.92\00:56:04.49
it says: "BE THEREFORE MERCIFUL,
00:56:04.53\00:56:06.76
EVEN AS YOUR FATHER
IN HEAVEN IS MERCIFUL."
00:56:06.80\00:56:09.33
God wants us to have a perfect
love, a perfect mercy, and to
00:56:09.36\00:56:12.70
just completely trust Him.
00:56:12.73\00:56:14.67
Jean: All right,
another question.
00:56:14.70\00:56:16.20
Alex asked: "DOES THE
BIBLE SAY THAT ADAM AND EVE
00:56:16.24\00:56:18.54
ATE FROM THE TREE OF LIFE,
00:56:18.57\00:56:19.91
AND IF YES, WHY
DIDN'T THEY BECOME IMMORTAL?"
00:56:19.94\00:56:22.84
Doug: Well, immortality, it
seems, they needed to continue
00:56:22.88\00:56:27.62
to eat from that tree because
the fact that, I'm sure when
00:56:27.65\00:56:32.12
Adam and Eve were first created,
and the time they spent in the
00:56:32.15\00:56:35.56
garden, I'm surprised
that they would eat from
00:56:35.59\00:56:37.99
the tree of the knowledge of
good and evil and not have eaten
00:56:38.03\00:56:40.66
from the tree of life.
00:56:40.70\00:56:42.40
I think evidence that they
did eat from the tree of life is
00:56:42.43\00:56:44.50
that they and their immediate
posterity lived hundreds of
00:56:44.53\00:56:48.57
years, and that's why He tells
us the tree of life will be
00:56:48.60\00:56:51.77
in the new Earth.
00:56:51.81\00:56:53.51
We'll probably continue to
come at least once every couple
00:56:53.54\00:56:56.11
hundred years, and eat from it.
00:56:56.14\00:56:58.11
Jean: And then our final
question here, Kenny's asking
00:56:58.15\00:57:01.02
from Papua New Guinea:
"HOW DO I LOVE GOD MORE?"
00:57:01.05\00:57:04.05
Doug: Oh, that's
a great question.
00:57:04.09\00:57:06.79
Well, for one thing, it
says that we love Him because He
00:57:06.82\00:57:10.39
first loved us.
00:57:10.43\00:57:11.83
And so, as we
behold His love for us,
00:57:11.86\00:57:14.10
our love for Him will grow.
00:57:14.13\00:57:16.73
The better we know Him,
the more we'll love Him.
00:57:16.77\00:57:19.13
You read in Romans chapter 10,
verse 17, it says: "Faith comes
00:57:19.17\00:57:23.41
by hearing, and
hearing by the Word of God."
00:57:23.44\00:57:25.94
And so as we read about
Jesus and the Word of God
00:57:25.97\00:57:29.54
and we get to know Him better,
that inspires us with love.
00:57:29.58\00:57:34.22
It's the goodness of God
that leads us to repentance.
00:57:34.25\00:57:37.49
As we look at His
love and His goodness,
00:57:37.52\00:57:39.55
that leads us to repentance.
00:57:39.59\00:57:41.62
And it increases
our love for Him.
00:57:41.66\00:57:44.46
And something else happens
is as we share God's goodness
00:57:44.49\00:57:47.96
and love with other people, then
it inspires us to love Him more.
00:57:48.00\00:57:52.53
When we look at the cross and
we see what He paid for us, and
00:57:52.57\00:57:55.97
His sacrifice, probably the best
place to witness and understand
00:57:56.00\00:58:00.94
the sacrifice of Jesus
is by looking at the cross.
00:58:00.98\00:58:03.68
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