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00:43 Now, here's your host from Amazing Facts International,
00:47 Pastor Jëan Ross.
00:49 Jëan Ross: Hello, friends, how about an amazing fact?
00:52 One of history's most notable hoaxes is the Piltdown Man, an
00:56 archaeological deception that captivated the scientific
00:59 community for decades.
01:01 In 1912, Charles Dawson claimed to have unearthed the elusive
01:05 missing link between humans and apes in Piltdown, England.
01:09 The alleged discovery, consisting of a humanlike skull
01:12 and an apelike jaw, were initially celebrated as
01:15 groundbreaking evidence supporting a transitional
01:18 species from apes to humans.
01:21 And given the fervid interest to find the so called missing link,
01:24 the Piltdown Man was enthusiastically received as a
01:27 most remarkable discovery of human evolution.
01:31 Drawings of the apelike human were published in newspapers
01:34 around the world.
01:35 The skull was placed on display in a museum and even a statue
01:39 was made of the Piltdown Man.
01:42 However in the 1950's, advances in dating techniques and a more
01:46 comprehensive analysis revealed that the Piltdown Man was
01:50 nothing but a hoax.
01:52 The skull belonged to a human while the jaw bone was from
01:55 an orangutan.
01:56 Both were artificially stained to look very old.
01:59 This great hoax shows the lengths that some people will go
02:03 to bolster a theory that lacks credible evidence.
02:07 The Bible reminds us in Proverbs chapter 14 verse 15 that, "The
02:10 simple believe anything, but the prudent give thought to
02:14 their steps."
02:15 This verse teaches us that whether we're dealing with
02:17 science, religion, morality, or any other belief, it is critical
02:21 to seek guidance from the Bible.
02:23 In a world full of false ideas and misleading philosophies,
02:27 turning to God's Word is like a strong shield that protects us
02:31 against the devil's many deceptions.
02:34 You know Pastor Carlos, when you read about these hoaxes of so
02:37 called discoveries that bolster some kind of theory or
02:41 evolutionary idea, and then later on it's discovered that
02:44 it's really not doing any of that.
02:47 It kind of points to a Creator God, just like the Bible says.
02:51 Carlos Munoz: Yeah, well, and especially as the
02:53 technology advances.
02:55 The instruments are so precise now that they come across, and
03:00 science is discovering that the theory of evolution is more and
03:04 more discredited, right?
03:05 And archaeologically, too, confirming what the Bible says
03:09 historically and scientifically.
03:11 So, we say praise God for that.
03:14 Jëan: Amen, absolutely, and of course intelligent design, the
03:16 more they study the cell and the smaller little way the cell
03:21 interacts, it's just evidence that somebody designed all
03:24 of this.
03:25 You know, we do have a free offer, it's called "When
03:27 Evolution Flunked the Science Test."
03:29 Maybe you're wondering about, you know, what does the Bible
03:32 say about, you know, the fact that God created us, but then
03:35 how do we refute these ideas about evolution?
03:38 Well, it's in the book.
03:40 It'll tell you more about it.
03:41 If you'd like to receive the book, just call and ask.
03:43 What number do they call for that?
03:44 Carlos: Yeah, they call 1-800-835-6747 and ask for offer
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04:02 Jëan: "When Evolution Flunked the Science Test," that's the
04:05 name of the free offer.
04:06 Carlos: Yes, we have free shipping in the U.S., U.S.
04:08 territories, and Canada only, and we also wanted to take a
04:11 second to greet the listeners from KPLS in Denver and KTPJ in
04:16 Pueblo, Colorado that are joining us.
04:18 Jëan: Alright, and greetings to those who are joining us new to
04:21 "Bible Answers Live."
04:23 Well, before we go to the phone lines, why don't we start with
04:25 the word of prayer?
04:26 Carlos: Sure, let's pray.
04:27 Father, thank You again for this beautiful day and this beautiful
04:29 opportunity to spend time in Your Word.
04:30 I ask that You just give us wisdom and discernment and also
04:33 bless those that are listening and calling, so that we can have
04:36 just a lively discussion and that your name may be glorified
04:38 in all things.
04:39 We ask this in Jesus's name, amen.
04:41 Jëan: Amen, alright, number one, we have Jerry from
04:44 Texas calling us.
04:45 Jerry, welcome, you are live.
04:48 Jerry: Hey, guys, I got a long question here.
04:51 My question refers to Revelation 20, verses 7 to 9.
04:56 How long will this rebellion last for the long failed D-Day
05:00 invasion at the door of the New Jerusalem?
05:04 One religious author indicates Satan will develop weapons of
05:08 war for the onslaught of God's people.
05:10 One time, Doug mentioned more than maybe 20 years.
05:14 What are your thoughts today?
05:16 Jëan: Alright, well, good question.
05:17 Let me read the verse for those who might be traveling and
05:20 they're not familiar with the passage.
05:22 Revelation chapter 20 in verse 7, starting in verse 7, it says,
05:25 "Now when the thousand years were expired, Satan will be
05:28 released from his prison and he will go out and deceive the
05:32 nations which are on the four corners of the earth, Gog and
05:34 Magog, to gather them together
05:36 to battle, whose number is as
05:37 the sand of the sea.
05:39 And they went up on the breadth of the earth and they surrounded
05:41 the camp of the saints of the beloved city, and fire came down
05:45 from God out of heaven and devoured them."
05:48 So, just a little bit of the background here, we're talking
05:49 about the one-thousand-year period known as the millennium
05:52 we read about in Revelation chapter 20.
05:54 The beginning of the millennium is the Second Coming of Christ.
05:57 So, Jesus comes the second time, the dead in Christ are
06:00 resurrected, the living righteous are changed in a
06:02 moment, in the twinkling of an eye, and together they are
06:05 caught up to meet Jesus in the air.
06:07 The wicked are destroyed with the brightness of Christ's
06:09 coming, but the redeemed go to heaven and they're there for a
06:12 thousands years in heaven with Christ.
06:14 The devil is bound to this earth, described as the
06:18 bottomless pit, for this thousand years, but at the end
06:21 of the thousand years, the New Jerusalem, the redeemed in
06:24 Christ, and God in heaven moves down to this earth.
06:28 You read about in Revelation chapter 21 where John says, "I
06:31 saw the New Jerusalem descending from God out of heaven," and
06:34 it's at that point that the wicked are then resurrected for
06:37 the Great White Throne Judgment that we read about here in
06:40 Revelation chapter 20.
06:41 At the end of the Great White Throne Judgment, according to
06:44 these verses, the devil goes out and he is able to deceive the
06:48 wicked, and it describes them as the sand of the sea, and they
06:52 mount their attack upon the New Jerusalem, the golden city, and
06:55 then fire comes down and devours them.
06:56 So, the question is asked how long after the resurrection
07:00 of--well, how long after the New Jerusalem comes down, the end of
07:04 the thousand years, and the resurrection of the wicked, and
07:07 the Great White Throne Judgment, to when Satan and the wicked
07:11 are destroyed?
07:12 Now, of course the Bible does not say, but there is quite a
07:14 few things that have to happen after the resurrection of
07:17 the wicked.
07:18 You got this final judgment, at the end of which the Bible says
07:21 every knee bows and every tongue confesses that Jesus is Lord and
07:25 that God is fair and that He's done everything to save mankind.
07:28 It's not a confession of guilt or a recognition of sin, rather
07:32 it's just an acknowledgment of the evidence, because no sooner
07:36 do they do that when they actually mount this attack upon
07:39 the New Jerusalem.
07:40 So, you know, the Bible doesn't say, it could be months, it
07:44 could be years, we don't know.
07:48 We'll have to wait and see.
07:49 Matter of fact, the Bible says the devil will be loosed after
07:52 his prison for a little season, that's the actual wording that
07:54 we find there in Revelation, "Loosed for a little season."
07:58 So, whatever that little season is, the Bible doesn't say.
08:02 Carlos: Yeah, what's important is that we're on the right side.
08:04 Jëan: That's right, we want to be inside the New Jerusalem when
08:06 that time comes.
08:08 Well, hopefully that helps, Jerry.
08:09 Who do we have next?
08:10 Carlos: Next we have Axel from Pennsylvania, I'm thinking.
08:13 Axel, welcome to "Bible Answers Live," you're on the air.
08:16 Axel: How are you doing, Pastor?
08:17 Jëan: Doing well.
08:19 Axel: Nice to meet you.
08:20 My question is, so Adam and Eve was the first humans, then there
08:25 was Cain and Abel, and I believe Cain was the one who killed
08:29 Abel, right?
08:32 Cain killed Abel, okay.
08:35 I'm not sure if I mixed up the names, so that's why I asked.
08:38 So, my other question is why did he say--why did God send them to
08:44 a city?
08:45 A city, it was a city, right?
08:46 Jëan: Well, not at first.
08:48 I mean, after Adam and Eve were driven from the garden of Eden,
08:51 it says that they had two sons and they also had other sons and
08:55 daughters, the Bible says, but Cain killed Abel, and yeah, as
09:01 the population grew, eventually, you know, hundreds of years,
09:05 they lived 900 years before the flood, so the population grew,
09:10 and as time went on, cities were put together or came together,
09:15 so it didn't happen immediately after Adam and Eve were banished
09:18 from the garden, but sometime after that.
09:20 Axel: Oh, okay, okay, 'cause I wasn't sure, 'cause he was
09:24 worried about him.
09:25 He was worried about people killing him, and I thought, I
09:28 was like, people killing him?
09:30 Wasn't there only four humans?
09:34 Jëan: No, there were other siblings, so he was worried
09:38 about his siblings doing him in, so that's why he complained
09:42 about that.
09:43 Axel: Okay, that makes sense.
09:44 That makes sense, yeah.
09:46 Jëan: Alright, well, good question.
09:47 Thank you for calling, Axel.
09:49 Carlos: Thank you very much, Axel.
09:50 Next we have Iba from Oklahoma.
09:52 You are on the air, Iba, welcome.
09:55 Iba: Yes, I am concerned about the position that we as
10:01 Adventists hold on the feasts of the Jews.
10:04 Is it for Jewish people only?
10:06 Like, you know, the Feast of Tabernacles, the Feast of
10:11 Trumpets and all these different things that I thought was
10:17 because Jesus had brought the Jews out of Egypt and that they
10:22 had been disobedient, and so Moses had to write some things
10:29 that the Lord told him.
10:30 Jëan: So, are you wondering do we still have to keep the feast
10:33 days today?
10:36 Yeah, that's a good question.
10:37 That's a good question.
10:39 Well, what we need to understand that when we get into the Old
10:41 Testament, we see different groupings of law.
10:45 There are at least four types of law that we read about in the
10:48 Old Testament.
10:49 The most important law, of course, is the moral law,
10:51 otherwise known as the Ten Commandments.
10:54 Transgression of the Ten Commandments is sin.
10:56 The Bible says sin is the transgression of the law.
10:59 So, that's the Ten Commandments.
11:01 Adam and Eve broke the Ten Commandments and that's where
11:04 sin came in to the whole, you know, human race and earth, and
11:08 the Ten Commandments has always been.
11:10 And of course, that needs to be kept even today.
11:13 Revelation 12:17 talks about those who keep the commandments
11:15 of God and have the faith of Jesus.
11:17 But in addition to the Ten Commandment law, there were also
11:20 certain health laws that God instructed the Israelites to
11:24 follow, but the health laws preceded the Israelites, because
11:28 you read when it came to the time of the flood, and God told
11:31 Noah to take into the ark clean and unclean animals.
11:34 They were aware, there was a distinction made between the
11:37 clean and the unclean, and the sacrificial system which was
11:40 implemented right after Adam and Eve sinned, they were driven
11:43 from the garden, only clean animals could be sacrificed.
11:46 So, there was a distinction between clean and unclean
11:49 animals and some of the other health laws associated with
11:52 that, that even predated Abraham, but then when the
11:55 children of Israel were brought out of Egypt, God gave them some
11:58 additional laws, and that's kind of where the feast days fall in.
12:02 It's what we call the ceremonial laws.
12:04 It's connected with the sanctuary service.
12:06 God told Moses to build a sanctuary, it involved the
12:09 Levitical priesthood, and there were certain feast days that
12:13 pointed to the coming of the Messiah, just like the lamb
12:15 pointed to Jesus who would come and die.
12:18 So, the feast days not only pointed to the coming of the
12:21 Messiah, but it also reminded the Jews of their deliverance
12:24 from slavery in Egypt.
12:26 For example, the Passover, so it had a dual purpose of looking
12:30 forward to the coming of the Messiah, but also for the
12:31 nation, helping to remind them that God was the one that led
12:35 them up out of Egypt.
12:37 There are principles connected with the feast days that I think
12:40 is interesting for us to study, but we cannot keep the feast
12:43 days today the way the Bible commands.
12:46 The Bible required that everyone was to go to Jerusalem for the
12:49 feast, or go up to the sanctuary and they were to offer
12:52 sacrifices on the feast.
12:53 Well, of course we don't offer sacrifices today.
12:55 We don't journey to Jerusalem.
12:58 So, it doesn't apply to Christians today.
13:00 Jesus is our Passover.
13:02 He is the Lamb that was slain for our sins.
13:04 And then the final category are the civil laws that govern the
13:07 nation of Israel.
13:09 Now, some of those principles are still, you know, valuable
13:12 for nations today, but we're not under theocracy the way the Jews
13:16 were when God led them up out of the land of Egypt.
13:19 So, some of those aspects don't apply now either, but probably
13:23 the most important thing for us to recognize is that the Ten
13:25 Commandment law, or the moral law, is always binding.
13:28 It always has been binding, and it'll be kept even in the
13:31 earth made new.
13:33 Carlos: Amen, I think one of the most beautiful things of the
13:34 feast days is that it's a prophetic calendar and it shows
13:37 how each stage of the way, a different phase of how Christ is
13:41 saving us, and so we're now in the Day of Atonement, and so
13:45 we're just waiting for the end of the Day of Atonement, as we
13:47 read in Revelation 21, tabernacles, when we're in the
13:51 presence of God.
13:52 Jëan: So, you know, you bring up a good point.
13:53 The Bible talks about this Day of Atonement that occurred once
13:55 a year, on the Day of Atonement for the Jewish people, but we're
13:58 living in that antitypical Day of Atonement, which isn't just
14:02 one day, but it's ongoing right now, as you read about in Daniel
14:05 chapter 7 and some other place in the Bible.
14:08 So, some interesting parallels there that we can see.
14:10 Alright, well, hopefully that helps.
14:11 I think we have a book called "Feast Days and Sabbaths," and
14:14 we'll be happy to send that to anyone who I would like to get
14:18 more information on that, so just go ahead and call and ask
14:22 for that, "Feast Days and Sabbaths."
14:24 Carlos: Yeah, they can text also number 250, number 250 in
14:27 the U.S.
14:29 and when you call here, "Bible Answers Live," and ask for that
14:32 free gift also.
14:33 Let's go next with Brittany from here in California.
14:37 Hello, Britney, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
14:41 Jëan: Hi, Brittany, and your question today.
14:44 Brittany: My question is did Rahab sin when she saved the
14:49 Israelites from their enemies, and Joshua, too, by lying?
14:54 Jëan: Okay, well, you know, the Bible says that sin is the
14:57 transgression of the law, and did she lie?
15:00 Yes, she did, but the Bible also tells us that at our times of
15:04 ignorance, God winks at.
15:05 In other words, we're judged based on what we know.
15:08 She grew up in a pagan nation, she was not fully aware of all
15:12 of the commandments, she did what she thought was right in
15:16 that case to try and protect the spies, and God recognized her
15:21 faith, and God honored that faith and she and her household
15:25 was saved.
15:26 But I'm sure once she, you know, got connected with the nation of
15:29 Israel, and learned more about the religion of the Jews, and
15:32 had a clear understanding of God's requirements, his law, I'm
15:36 sure that she didn't continue lying after that.
15:39 So, at the time, you know, even though it was sin, God judged
15:43 her, or God judges each person based on what they know, and she
15:47 was sort of living up to everything she knew at
15:50 that time.
15:51 Carlos: She was a prostitute, too.
15:52 Jëan: And so we know she had a difficult life before that
15:54 too, yeah.
15:55 Her life was changed.
15:56 And you know, the amazing thing about Rahab is you read later on
15:58 where it talks about in the chapter the heroes of faith,
16:01 Rahab is mentioned, but then also she's in the lineage of,
16:04 well, eventually David and Jesus, so just a
16:08 remarkable story.
16:09 Carlos: Amen, amen, thank you very much, Brittney.
16:11 Next, we have Debbie calling us from Canada.
16:13 You're on the air, Sister Debbie, welcome.
16:16 Debbie: Hi, how are you?
16:18 Jëan: We're doing good.
16:19 Debbie: Okay, I have a question about tattoos.
16:23 I know what it says about tattooing your skin in the
16:25 Bible, but did God ever tell somebody to get a tattoo?
16:31 Jëan: Did God ever tell somebody to get a tattoo?
16:33 Well, there is one reference, it's kind of interesting.
16:36 It was back in the Jewish economy, if somebody was a slave
16:41 or they had given themselves into slavery for a period of
16:44 time, and the time came for their release, they could
16:48 choose, if they wanted to remain a slave, if they loved their
16:52 master and they were sort of adopted as part of the family,
16:55 there was a practice that occurred where the ear was
16:59 driven through, as the piercing of the ear as a sign that, you
17:04 know, the slave was indebted forever to be with his master.
17:08 And I think there was a possibility of a marking at that
17:11 point as well, but that's the only instance that we
17:14 read about.
17:16 That was a very unique situation, that's not tattoos in
17:18 general, for sure.
17:20 The Bible tells us not to get a tattoo.
17:21 Now, having said that, that's not the unpardonable sin,
17:24 there's probably many people that have got tattoos and they
17:26 realize, yeah, you know, they come to a knowledge of the truth
17:28 and that doesn't mean by any means that that God can't
17:32 forgive, but if you know the will of God, well, you don't
17:34 want to go out and get another tattoo, right?
17:36 You want to ask for forgiveness and move on with your life.
17:39 So, that's the only instance I can think of, Debbie, does that
17:42 help a little?
17:44 Debbie: Yes, it does, thank you so much.
17:45 Jëan: Alright, thanks for your call.
17:47 Who do we have next?
17:48 Carlos: Next, we have Gary calling from Illinois.
17:50 Welcome to "Bible Answers Live," Gary.
17:52 Gary: Thank you, I have a hard time understanding Christ Jesus
17:56 as Michael the archangel.
17:58 So, in Jude chapter 1, verse 9 it says, "Yet Michael the
18:03 archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed
18:07 about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him reviling
18:12 accusation, but said to him, "The Lord rebuke you.'"
18:18 So, why would the Creator of the universe dare not to bring
18:21 reviling accusation against Lucifer?
18:24 Jëan: Okay, good question.
18:26 Well, first of all, let me give a little bit of a background
18:27 then we can specifically talk about that verse.
18:30 So, in the Bible we read about this being called Michael, and
18:34 he's referred to in Jude as the archangel.
18:37 But you also read about it in Revelation chapter 12 where it
18:39 says there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels fought
18:42 against the dragon and his angels, and the dragon lost and
18:45 he was cast out of heaven.
18:47 We also read in the book of Daniel, it refers to Michael,
18:50 the great prince who stands on behalf of thy people in Daniel
18:54 chapter 12, and then when it's talking about the Second Coming
18:57 of Christ, Jesus said the time is coming that those who are in
19:00 their grave will hear His voice, that is the voice of the Son of
19:03 Man, and they shall come forth.
19:05 And then Thessalonians says that when the Lord comes, He comes
19:08 with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and the trumpet of
19:12 God and the dead in Christ rise first.
19:14 So, the voice that raises the dead, according to
19:17 Thessalonians, is the voice of the archangel, and Jesus says
19:20 it's my voice that raises the dead, and Michael is referred to
19:24 the great prince who stands on behalf of his people.
19:27 Well, Jesus stands on behalf of his people.
19:29 The war that occurred in Revelation chapter 12 between
19:32 Michael and his angels was a war between Christ and his angels
19:36 and the devil and those angels that sided with him.
19:38 So, what's confusing people is the name archangel.
19:42 Does that mean that Jesus is an angel, a created being like all
19:46 the other angels?
19:47 The answer is no.
19:48 The word there, "archangel," simply means the one above, or
19:51 the ruler, or the commander of the angels, just like an arch is
19:55 above something.
19:56 So, the commander of the angels, the one in charge of the angels,
19:59 is Michael.
20:00 Michael is the prophetic name of Jesus that we find there in
20:03 Daniel and Jude, as well as in Revelation.
20:06 Now, an angel in Bible prophecy in its strict sense, if you look
20:10 up the Greek, it means messenger.
20:12 It's "angelos," it simply means messenger.
20:14 And not only do we have angelic beings referred to as angels,
20:18 but even people are referred to angels, as you read in
20:20 Revelation chapter 2 and 3, and Revelation chapter 14 talks
20:24 about the three angels' messages that really is a description of
20:27 God's people taking this end time message to the world.
20:31 So, an angel is a messenger, and there were times in the Old
20:34 Testament where Jesus came bringing a message.
20:37 He's referred to as the angel of the Lord, the messenger of
20:40 the Lord.
20:42 Now, when Jesus was talking to the devil, in the case of
20:44 resurrecting Moses, when Christ was tempted in the wilderness by
20:49 the devil, Jesus didn't get into an argument with the devil, he
20:52 just simply quoted scripture.
20:54 Likewise when he came to resurrect Moses, and the devil
20:58 was protesting, saying, well, you can't resurrect him.
21:00 Jesus didn't get into a dispute or an argument, he just said,
21:04 "The Lord rebukes you," so there's no need to get in an
21:07 argument with the devil.
21:09 It's pretty evident to all the angels in the universe, you
21:13 know, who's right and who's wrong.
21:14 And so, God rebuked the devil, and Moses was resurrected, and
21:19 we know that he was resurrected because he appeared later on
21:22 with Elijah and Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration.
21:26 You know, we do have a book, it's called "Who is Michael
21:28 the Archangel?"
21:30 After that long explanation, there's a whole lot more in the
21:32 book with all the Bible verses, and we'll be happy to send it to
21:35 anyone who calls and asks.
21:37 Just call and ask, "Who is Michael the Archangel?"
21:39 Carlos: 1-800-835-6747, thank you very much, Gary.
21:44 Next, we have Glenn from Ohio.
21:46 Welcome, Glenn, you're on the air.
21:49 Glenn: Thank you, good, let me first of all say that your
21:53 ministry is quite--or your program is quite a ministry and
21:56 I appreciate that.
21:58 Jëan: Amen, well, thank you.
21:59 Glenn: Thank you for taking my call.
22:00 Jëan: Glad to do it.
22:02 Glenn: My call concerns the abomination of desolation that's
22:04 spoken of by the prophet Daniel.
22:06 I understand it's a big end time event, can you help me
22:10 understand what is the abomination of desolation?
22:13 Who performs it, when, and where?
22:16 Jëan: Alright, good question.
22:17 There are actually two parts to the abomination of desolation.
22:21 If you look in Matthew, Jesus, talking about the destruction of
22:24 Jerusalem, says, "When you see the 'Abomination of Desolation,'
22:27 spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, then
22:30 let him that be in Judea flee into the mountains."
22:33 So, in the immediate sense the abomination of desolation was
22:37 the Roman armies that came and surrounded Jerusalem in 70 A.D.
22:41 and brought about its downfall.
22:43 Now, history tells us that the Christians heeded that warning
22:48 given by Christ, and they were able to escape from the city of
22:51 Jerusalem and no Christians were killed in the destruction of
22:54 Jerusalem in 70 A.D.
22:56 The same passage is translated in Luke, and he says, "When you
23:01 see armies surrounding Jerusalem, then know that its
23:03 desolation is nigh.
23:04 Then let him that be in Judea flee into the mountains."
23:07 You might even have that verse there, Pastor Carlos.
23:09 So, we understand the abomination of desolation first,
23:13 in its first application, represents pagan Rome, but
23:18 there's also a second phase, we call that papal role, and there
23:22 is a resurgence of papal power in the last days.
23:25 And we can actually see that happening in the world around
23:27 us today.
23:29 The popularity of the papacy, its influence both in not only
23:32 religious things but also political things, a time will
23:36 come where certain laws will be promoted and passed that
23:41 restrict religious worship or religious freedom, actually
23:44 contradicting one of God's commandments.
23:46 That will be to God's people a clear sign that another
23:49 abomination of desolation is being set up.
23:53 So, that is the dual or secondary application of what
23:56 the abomination of desolation is.
23:59 Do you have anything else you want to add to that?
24:00 Carlos: Matthew 24, verse 15 forward, that's about the
24:04 abomination desolation.
24:06 Jëan: Okay, very good, well, thank you for your call.
24:09 Who do we have next?
24:10 Carlos: Next, we have Duane calling us from Georgia.
24:13 Welcome to "Bible Answers Live," Duane, you're on the air.
24:17 Duane: Hey, thank you, Carlos, I appreciate your time and your
24:19 ministry, gentlemen, and taking my call.
24:23 My question has to do with actually a lot with what you
24:25 guys hit at right throughout the very first question, the first
24:28 caller, with Revelation chapter 20, verses 8 and 9.
24:34 I've always been curious, is that why would Satan attempt to
24:37 attack the beloved city of God here at the end, knowing he's
24:40 already lost the battle?
24:42 Why would he want to do this?
24:43 Is it possible that he wants to get inside hopefully a last
24:48 ditch effort, maybe to get to the tree of life, or I mean, why
24:52 is he doing this?
24:53 Jëan: Yeah, you know, that's a good question.
24:55 I mean, you'd think that he's read the Bible, he should know
24:58 the way the story ends.
24:59 But remember, this being once worshiped more than anything
25:02 else, he wanted to receive the worship that only belongs
25:04 to God.
25:06 He wanted to be as the Most High in heaven before he was cast out
25:09 of heaven.
25:10 Perhaps, and the Bible doesn't say, but perhaps the devil,
25:12 seeing the vast numbers on his side standing outside the city,
25:16 somehow is able to think that with overwhelming power or
25:22 numbers, he might be able to conquer the city.
25:25 Really, he wants to take God from his throne.
25:28 He wants to rule, and perhaps he realizes sort of a suicide
25:32 mission and he's going to take everybody down with him at
25:34 the time.
25:36 But he's able to convince them to actually mount this attack
25:38 upon the New Jerusalem, and you can't attack God.
25:41 I mean, God created all things, and you wonder why would he even
25:44 think that?
25:45 But you know, sin does that to a person, it causes people to do
25:48 some very foolish things.
25:49 I mean, look at our world.
25:51 Look at what sin has caused people to do.
25:53 So, I think Satan has been so connected to sin and self that
25:57 perhaps he even deceives himself.
26:00 At least he's able to deceive the people to thinking that he's
26:02 going to be victorious.
26:03 Maybe he's able to convince himself that he thinks he's
26:05 going to be victorious.
26:07 But the Bible makes it clear that there's no hope, God will
26:10 cleanse the earth from sin and sinners.
26:12 The fire that destroys the devil and his angels is the fire that
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30:24 Jëan: Hello, friends, you're listening to "Bible Answers
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30:54 My name is Jëan Ross.
30:55 Carlos: Carlos Munoz.
30:56 Jëan: That's right, and we're ready to go to the phone lines.
30:58 Who do we have next?
31:00 Carlos: Next, we have Lynn from the state of Oregon.
31:02 Welcome to "Bible Answers Live," Lynn.
31:05 Lynn: Hello, yes, my question is about Leviticus 19:19 and
31:14 Deuteronomy 22:11.
31:18 And Leviticus 19:19 says, "You shall keep my statutes.
31:26 You shall not let your livestock breed with another kind.
31:33 You shall not sow your field with mixed seed, nor shall a
31:39 garment of mixed linen and wool come upon you."
31:46 And Deuteronomy 22:11 says, "You shall not wear a garment of
31:55 different sorts, such as wool and linen mixed together."
32:01 Now, when I took history class and they said that the
32:06 colonists, well, a lot of the garments that they wore were of
32:11 a fabric they called linsey-woolsey, which is just
32:16 that, linen and wool mixed together, and many of our
32:23 garments today are of all kinds of combinations of
32:28 different materials.
32:31 Jëan: Okay, so you're wondering why did God make this law for
32:34 the Jews, or are you wondering is it wrong for us to wear
32:37 clothing that is mixed fabrics?
32:40 Lynn: Is it wrong for us to wear clothing with
32:43 mixed fabrics?
32:44 Jëan: Alright, good question.
32:45 Well, first of all, no, it's not wrong for us to wear fabrics of
32:49 mixed clothing, because if we read on in that same passage,
32:52 verse 12 in Deuteronomy 22, it says, "You shall make tassels on
32:56 the four corners of your clothing."
32:59 So here, not only is it telling the Israelites not to wear
33:02 clothing of mixed fabrics, but it says you also need to make
33:05 these tassels that you wear at the borders of your garments.
33:09 This is part of the ceremonial law that God gave to the nation
33:12 of Israel.
33:14 You see, God wanted them to be distinct and separate from the
33:16 nations that surrounded them.
33:18 The tassels on the hem of their garment was to remind them that
33:21 they were a holy people and remind them of obedience to
33:24 God's law.
33:25 And so, there were practical aspects of not mixing linen and
33:30 wool in different fabrics, just like there's practical aspects
33:33 of not using mixed seed when you sow your fields.
33:38 So, there was some practical aspects, but I think it extended
33:41 even more than that.
33:43 Garments in the Bible represent the righteousness or character,
33:49 and of course the Bible speaks about the redeemed clothed in a
33:52 white robe, representing Christ's righteousness that they
33:55 would receive.
33:57 The garments of the priests were to be pure, they weren't to be
34:00 of mixed fabrics.
34:02 It was a type, a shadow.
34:03 Israel is a holy people, a holy nation, we're to be set apart.
34:07 Now, there are practical aspects of that for our day today.
34:10 I think a Christian is to dress a little differently from
34:13 the world.
34:14 We are to dress modestly.
34:16 We are to dress neatly, cleanly, there should be a distinction in
34:19 dress between the Christian and the non-Christian, but it's not
34:23 referring to us not being able to wear clothing of
34:25 mixed fabrics.
34:27 That had to do more specifically with the nation of Israel.
34:30 Does that help, Lynn?
34:31 Lynn: Yes, that does.
34:33 Jëan: Okay, great, well, thank you for your call.
34:36 Carlos: Next, we have Christopher here
34:37 from California.
34:39 You are live on the air, Christopher, hello.
34:42 Christopher: Hello, thank you for taking my call.
34:44 My question is, is it a sin to celebrate birthdays?
34:50 Jëan: Is it a sin to celebrate birthdays?
34:51 No, it's not a sin.
34:53 Now, there might be some celebrations that people do that
34:57 might be sinful, but you know, just celebrating a birthday is
35:02 not a sin in and of itself.
35:04 But if somebody has a big party, and there's alcohol and music
35:08 and dancing, well, yeah, that could be a sinful thing, but
35:11 just recognizing somebody's birthday, there's nothing wrong
35:15 with that.
35:16 Christopher: Okay, so, like, receiving gifts from family
35:18 members is okay?
35:20 Jëan: Yeah, absolutely, you know, if it doesn't contradict
35:22 the law of God, it's okay.
35:24 And you know, in our culture today, we have many different
35:27 customs that don't contradict the Word of God.
35:30 For example, Thanksgiving, there's nothing wrong in
35:33 celebrating Thanksgiving or spending time with family.
35:36 So, yeah, a birthday, it falls into that same category.
35:39 It's not a contradiction of a commandment.
35:42 Christopher: Okay, that's it then, thank you.
35:44 Jëan: Alright, thanks, Christopher.
35:46 Who do we have next?
35:48 Carlos: Next, we have Sean from Michigan.
35:49 Welcome to "Bible Answers Live," Sean, you're on the air.
35:53 Sean: Thank you for taking my call.
35:54 I'm calling in the third time that I've called you guys.
35:56 So, this is from Ruth 4, verse 7, comparing with Mark 1, verse
36:01 7, so I'll read it here from the King James version.
36:04 Ruth 4:7, "Now this is the manner in former time in Israel
36:08 concerning redeeming and concerning changing, for to
36:12 confirm all things.
36:13 A man plucked off his shoe and gave it to his neighbor, and
36:17 this is a testimony in Israel."
36:19 So, I'll pause there.
36:21 The context of this is about the kinsman that ends up not
36:25 redeeming the inherit--like, basically the land that would be
36:31 associated with Ruth the Moabite, because her husband had
36:34 died and Naomi's husband died.
36:36 Ends up going to Boaz, and I wasn't sure if, 'cause he
36:40 chooses to do that, in Mark 1, verse 7 it says, "And preached,
36:44 saying, there cometh my dear than I after me, the latchet of
36:47 whose shoes I'm not worthy to stoop down and unloose."
36:51 My question is whether this whole thing about taking off the
36:54 shoe, the thing about the shoe in Ruth 4:7 and Mark 1:7, is
36:59 there any connection?
37:01 Is John the Baptist alluding to that about, like, not being
37:05 honorable enough to do something for Jesus?
37:07 Jëan: That's a good connection.
37:09 Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting connection.
37:11 Well, first of all, when it talks about take your shoes off,
37:13 take your sandals off, that is a reference first and foremost of
37:17 recognizing that you're in the presence of someone important.
37:21 When Moses was approaching the burning bush, God called out
37:23 from the burning bush and said, "Moses, take the sandals off
37:26 your feet.
37:27 The place where you're standing is holy ground."
37:30 And when John is referring to Jesus and he says I'm unworthy
37:33 to bow down and even, you know, loose his sandals, it's a
37:37 reference to the fact that Christ is holy.
37:39 The Bible speaks of Him as being that holy thing with reference
37:43 to the announcement of His birth.
37:45 So, that's the first sense that John is referring to when he
37:49 talks about the sandal.
37:50 Also in the Middle East culture, it was interesting, even today I
37:55 traveled to India, as a sign of reverence or respect when you
38:00 go into a church, you remove your shoes, you go in barefoot,
38:04 and that was also a custom even back then in the time of Israel.
38:08 And I think that because of that custom associated with giving a
38:13 sandal had to do something along with the covenant.
38:16 Now, there were different types of rituals connected with
38:19 covenants in the Bible.
38:21 You read the story where another covenant was where you placed
38:25 your hand under the thigh.
38:28 When Abraham was getting a son for Jacob, he had his servant
38:33 place his hand under his thigh and make an oath.
38:35 So, that's also another form.
38:37 That had changed, it seems, at least by the time of Ruth, and
38:41 the custom at that time was just exchanging a sandal as part of
38:44 an official contract that was being made.
38:46 So, the connection with John, it's interesting, I've never
38:48 seen that before specifically as it relates here, but I think
38:51 John is referring to the fact that Jesus is holy, and that's
38:54 why he was not worthy to loose his sandal.
38:57 Carlos: Yes, thank you, Sean.
39:00 Next, we have Robert from Washington.
39:02 Welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
39:03 Robert: Good to be here.
39:05 Thank you, Pastor Ross and Pastor Munoz.
39:08 Carlos: What's your question, brother?
39:10 Robert: Acts 3:19-21, it talks about a restoration there, or a
39:16 restoring, and I always thought that it was supposed to be
39:22 restoring when Jesus comes, but maybe I'm wrong.
39:27 Jëan: Okay, well, let me read the verses for those who might
39:29 be listening.
39:30 Acts chapter 3, beginning in verse 19, it says, "Repent
39:33 therefore and be converted, that your sins might be blotted out,
39:36 so that the time of refresh may come from the presence of the
39:38 Lord, and that he will send, or may send Jesus Christ, who was
39:42 preached to you before, whom heaven must receive until the
39:46 times of restoration of all things which God has spoken by
39:50 the mouth of all of his holy prophets since the world began."
39:53 So, is your question about the phrase where it says, "Until the
39:57 restoration of all things?"
39:58 Robert: Correct, yeah, like I said, I always thought that had
40:02 to do with when Jesus comes, but maybe I'm wrong.
40:07 Jëan: Well, no, it's definitely referring to the Second Coming
40:10 of Christ, because it says in verse 20, "That he may send
40:14 Jesus Christ who was preached to you before, whom heaven must
40:17 receive," which that's where Jesus is now.
40:21 "Whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of
40:24 all things."
40:25 So, here it's talking about a time of restoration.
40:28 Now, when it's talking about a restoration, it's talking about
40:30 a restoration of the truths, all of the truths of scripture, and
40:33 if you look historically after the legalization of Christianity
40:37 in 313, there were a number of strange pagan ideas and concepts
40:41 that came into the Christian church.
40:43 Some of those were contradicted during the time of the
40:47 reformation, but even into the 1800's there were still some
40:50 misunderstandings about what the Bible teaches, a number of
40:53 important teachings and doctrines.
40:55 But here, the promise is given before Jesus comes there will be
40:58 a full restoration of truth.
41:01 God will have a people who love him, keep his commandments, they
41:04 have the faith of Jesus, and the truth that was preached through
41:08 the prophets, all of the truth will be made manifest in the
41:11 last days.
41:12 And we also see this illustrated in Revelation chapter 18, verse
41:16 1, where it says John saw an angel coming down from heaven,
41:20 and the earth was illuminated with his glory, and he cried
41:22 mightily with a strong voice.
41:25 And you see the three angels's messages proclaiming God's three
41:29 aspects of His last warning message to the world.
41:31 So, that's referring to this proclamation, this restoration
41:35 of the truths of God's Word.
41:37 And then Jesus comes, which falls right into that
41:39 prophetic timeframe.
41:41 Carlos: Yeah, in Matthew chapter 17, verse 11 it says, "Elijah is
41:43 coming to restore all things."
41:45 Jëan: That's right, a special outpouring of the Holy Spirit as
41:48 in the days of Elijah.
41:49 So, does that help Robert?
41:51 Robert: Yeah, so the doctrines, the truth of God's Word are
41:56 restored first, and then Jesus comes.
41:58 Jëan: That's right, there is a group of people that are sealed,
42:02 according to Revelation chapter 7, before Jesus comes, so part
42:08 of that sealing is a restoration of all the truths of God's Word.
42:13 Robert: Alright, thank you.
42:15 Jëan: Alright, great question, thanks for calling.
42:16 Carlos: Thank you, Robert.
42:17 Next, we have Lee from North Carolina.
42:19 Welcome to "Bible Answers Live," Lee, you're on the air.
42:21 Lee: Thank you so much for taking my call, Pastors.
42:24 My question is regarding Deuteronomy chapter 14.
42:29 God talks about the unclean foods, do not eat this, do not
42:32 eat that, and then Mark chapter 7, verses 18 and 19, when Jesus
42:39 is explaining it I think in a parable, and then the disciples
42:42 afterwards say, "You know, Lord, what did you mean exactly?"
42:45 And he says, "Well, I can't believe you didn't understand,
42:48 but whatever enters a man from the outside doesn't defile him
42:51 because it's eliminated by the stomach," and then he says,
42:54 "Thus purifying the food," and so I'm confused.
42:57 I know that, you know, this is God both times, it's God's Word
43:01 and I'm just--could you shine some light on that?
43:04 Jëan: Yeah, great question.
43:06 Alright, first of all, if you read the context, well,
43:08 Deuteronomy, there's a clear distinction made between clean
43:10 and unclean animals.
43:12 Not only is that with reference to eating, meaning that God told
43:15 his people, and I believe it's true today, if you're gonna eat
43:18 meat, you only want to eat the clean animals.
43:20 It was also important for the sacrificial system that a
43:23 distinction be made between clean and unclean animals.
43:26 But then in the context here, if you read in Mark chapter 7,
43:29 there was a dispute that arose because the disciples did not
43:33 wash their hands before they ate, and it was the religious
43:37 leaders that had created all kinds of traditions associated
43:41 with everything.
43:42 And one of the traditions they had is that there was a certain
43:45 type of ceremonial washing of the hands, and the washing of
43:48 bowls, and cups, and plates, and all kinds of things associated
43:52 with eating.
43:54 And the disciples, they were on the road, they were traveling,
43:56 and they were hungry, and they ate.
43:58 They didn't do that ceremonial washing with their hands, and
44:01 this caused a bit of controversy.
44:03 And of course, the religious leaders brought that up to the
44:06 disciples and to Jesus, and then Jesus said it's not that which
44:09 goes into a man that defiles him, but it's that which comes
44:12 out of the man.
44:14 When Jesus says it's not that which goes into the man, he's
44:17 not making a statement on you can eat anything you want,
44:20 because that wouldn't make sense.
44:22 Obviously, we can eat things that damage the body.
44:25 Jesus wouldn't say you can eat things that damage the body,
44:28 because the Bible says our bodies are the temple of the
44:30 Holy Spirit.
44:31 He will destroy those that destroy the body.
44:34 So, he's not saying that you can just eat whatever you want or
44:36 whatever, you know, crawls across your plate.
44:39 Some of the things are harmful, you don't want to eat it.
44:41 But he's specifically addressing the tradition of washing of
44:44 the hands.
44:46 Jesus says don't worry about that, that's not the most
44:48 important thing.
44:50 The most important thing is what comes out of the man, meaning
44:52 out of the heart.
44:53 Now, they connected the washing of the hands with
44:56 spiritual defilement.
44:57 If you didn't wash your hands, you were being
44:59 spiritually defiled.
45:01 Jesus says, no, that's got nothing to do with spiritual
45:03 defilement, spiritual defilement is that which comes from the
45:06 heart, it comes from the inside, it comes out.
45:09 So, that's the context.
45:10 And again, you need to always read this in its context.
45:13 You mentioned the phrase, "Thus purifying all foods."
45:16 It's also interesting there, the word "thus" is actually added,
45:21 it's not part of the original manuscripts.
45:23 It was added by the translators for clarity, so that's not the
45:27 original text.
45:29 It's just simply Jesus is saying it's not what goes into the man
45:32 that brings spiritual defilement, but it's that which
45:35 comes out of a man which brings spiritual defilement.
45:37 That's the point that he's making.
45:38 Carlos: And Matthew 15 is a little bit more clearer than
45:40 Mark when it says in Matthew 15:20, "These things which
45:43 defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands defiles not
45:47 a man."
45:48 So, there's a clarification in Matthews 15,
45:52 so we have to look at the parallel verses.
45:53 Jëan: That's a great point, very good point.
45:55 Alright, hopefully that helps, Lee.
45:57 Who do we have next?
45:58 Carlos: Next, we have Liza from Florida.
45:59 Welcome, Liza, first time.
46:01 How are you doing?
46:02 Liza: I'm doing well, thank you, guys, Pastor Ross and
46:05 Pastor Munoz.
46:07 My question has to do with the Israelites, the plague with the
46:11 Egyptian, was that within a span of a year?
46:14 And if so, is that what we have to expect for the plagues seen
46:19 in Revelation?
46:20 Jëan: Okay, good question.
46:22 Well, the first distinction that we have between the plagues that
46:24 fell upon Egypt and the ones that fell upon, or described as
46:27 falling in Revelation, is that there were ten plagues that came
46:30 up on Egypt, and Revelation speaks about seven plagues, the
46:33 seven last plagues that come on the earth after probation
46:36 closes, before Jesus comes.
46:38 The distinction between that is the first three plagues affected
46:42 not only the Egyptians, but it also to some degree affected
46:46 the Israelites.
46:47 But the seven last plagues after that only affected the
46:51 Egyptians, it did not affect the Israelites.
46:53 They were protected, meaning that when the seven last plagues
46:56 are poured out upon the earth, God will protect His people.
46:59 These are judgments that come upon the wicked.
47:01 Now, how long did it take for those plagues, those ten plagues
47:04 to fall upon Egypt?
47:05 It was less than a year, because there was some rapid events
47:09 taking place.
47:10 There was also a terrible devastation that occurred, and
47:14 it would have probably caused a lot of harm if people tried to
47:19 continue for an extended period of time under those conditions.
47:22 So, it probably occurred within a matter of months.
47:25 Now, will the seven last plagues fall within a year?
47:29 I think there's good evidence in the Bible to suggest that,
47:32 because Revelation speaks about the plagues coming upon a power
47:35 called Babylon and says her plague shall come in one day.
47:39 One prophetic day in the Bible is equal to one literal year.
47:42 Now, of course the plagues that came upon Egypt were just for
47:45 one country.
47:47 The seven last plagues are for the whole world.
47:49 So, it takes about a year, or roughly within a period of a
47:52 year, for the seven last plates to be poured out.
47:55 Carlos: In Revelation it talks about, 16 it says, "The day of
47:58 the wrath," so again, that prophetic principle.
48:03 Jëan: Does that help Liza?
48:05 Liza: Yes, thank you, guys, have a great day.
48:07 Carlos: Thank you, next we have Bobbie from Washington.
48:10 Welcome, Bobbie, you're on the air.
48:13 Bobbie: Hi, my sister and I have a difference of opinion about
48:17 when Christ will come back.
48:21 My thought was that the righteous will go up into the
48:28 air and meet those that are risen that have passed on and
48:33 are resurrected, and that the dead--evil dead people will stay
48:42 in their grave, and those that are evil and living will die.
48:47 My sister says, or she believes, that God is the God of love and
48:52 would not kill His people or His creation.
48:59 I tell her that it's a punishment or a judgment of how
49:04 they've either rejected or accepted Christ, and at the end
49:09 of the millennium when Christ returns and the evil people that
49:17 were dead are resurrected, at that time those people will die
49:24 in a lake of fire that was created for the devil, and she
49:28 doesn't believe.
49:30 She thinks that we would, when God withdraws His Spirit, that
49:37 you can't live without His presence, and that's why
49:40 they die.
49:41 They just kind of fall over and they're gone, but I believe that
49:44 they would share in the punishment with Satan and
49:48 his angels.
49:50 Jëan: Yeah, let me give you a few thoughts that might add
49:52 to that.
49:53 You know, it's true that God takes no delight in the death of
49:56 the wicked, the Bible says that.
49:57 There's no pleasure, God takes no delight.
50:00 He says, "Therefore repent and turn.
50:02 Why will you die?"
50:03 The Bible says God is not slack concerning His promise, speaking
50:05 of the second coming, but He's longsuffering towards us, not
50:08 willing that any should perish, but that all should come
50:10 to repentance.
50:12 So God doesn't want anyone to be destroyed, but at the end of
50:15 time, there's a couple of scenarios that we look at.
50:17 First of all, just before Jesus comes, there is a universal
50:20 death decree that is pronounced against the people of God.
50:23 Jesus comes to the deliverance of His people, and as He
50:28 delivers these people, the wicked are destroyed with the
50:30 brightness of His coming.
50:31 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 verse 8 says, "The wicked are
50:34 destroyed at the brightness of His coming."
50:36 And then at the end of the thousand years, as we just read
50:38 in Revelation chapter 20, the scenario is that the wicked are
50:42 outside the city with the devil and his angels, and they
50:44 actually mount an attack upon the New Jerusalem, and the Bible
50:48 says fire comes down and devours them.
50:50 So, both cases it is God coming to the deliverance and the
50:54 defense of His people, and as a result, judgment falls upon the
50:58 wicked and they are destroyed.
51:00 The Bible says God is a consuming fire, and for those
51:04 who have rebelled against Him and are determined to destroy
51:08 His faithful people, there is nothing else God can do but put
51:12 a stop to them, and that is through death, the means that
51:16 He's chosen is fire to destroy the devil and his angels and the
51:19 wicked who have sided with him, and then He makes a new heavens
51:23 and a new earth.
51:25 So, God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but there
51:27 is a destruction that comes upon the wicked.
51:30 The Bible is pretty clear on that if you read Revelation, and
51:33 also the Old Testament talks about a fire consuming the devil
51:36 and his angels, and they'll be turned to ashes upon the earth.
51:40 So, yeah, the Bible is pretty clear on that.
51:42 Carlos: Yeah, and it's interesting, too, with the flood
51:44 he destroyed the surface of the earth with water, next time it's
51:48 not going to be with water, but it's going to be with fire.
51:51 Jëan: You know, it's interesting, the two symbols of
51:53 water and fire.
51:54 Water is a symbol of baptism and fire a symbol of the Holy
51:57 Spirit, so the righteous are cleansed by water and fire, but
52:01 the wicked, the earth, is cleansed by water and fire.
52:04 Literal water in the time of the flood, and fire that devours the
52:08 wicked at the end of the thousand years.
52:10 Okay, who do we have next?
52:12 Carlos: Alright, next we have Tiwanna from Virginia.
52:15 Welcome, Tiwanna, you're on the air.
52:17 Tiwanna: Thank you both for taking my call.
52:19 I hope you're having a good evening.
52:22 My question is, and I've been listening to your sermons and
52:27 Pastor Doug Batchelor, and my question is why are some, when
52:36 we die, we sleep until Jesus Christ resurrects us, and
52:43 there's some people in heaven, and my cousin and I have been
52:47 talking, and then she asked me, because I was sharing with her
52:52 what I was learning, and her question is, well, if that's the
52:58 case that when we die we sleep in the grave and we know
53:02 nothing, then in Ephesians 3:14-15, mainly 15, it says,
53:10 "From whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named," and
53:16 then about the transfiguration with Jesus Christ and who
53:24 appeared with Him was Elijah and Moses, and we know Elijah was in
53:28 the chariot.
53:30 Jëan: Yeah, let me jump in before we run out of time.
53:31 I'm looking at the clock, good question.
53:34 Elijah was taken to heaven, Enoch was taken to heaven
53:37 without dying, and Moses was resurrected and taken to heaven.
53:41 You read about that in the book of Jude.
53:43 So, we know Enoch, Elijah, Moses are in heaven.
53:48 There was also a group that was resurrected at the time of
53:50 Christ's resurrection, and the Bible doesn't give us their
53:52 names, but they ascended with Jesus to heaven and they
53:56 are firstfruits.
53:58 But the general resurrection doesn't happen until Jesus comes
54:01 the second time, that's when people receive their rewards.
54:05 So, there's just a small exception.
54:07 You got any before the flood, you got Enoch, Elijah, and
54:12 Moses, and then this group that was resurrected at the time of
54:16 Christ's resurrection, but everyone else will be
54:18 resurrected when Jesus comes.
54:20 So, hopefully that helps.
54:22 You know, we do have a study guide that talks about that,
54:24 it's called "Are the Dead Really Dead?"
54:26 And it gets all of the Bible verses, I think it even
54:29 references Moses and Elijah, and anyone wanting to learn more
54:32 about that, just call and ask.
54:34 The number to call for that is 800-835-6747.
54:38 You can ask for the Amazing Facts Study Guide, it's called
54:40 "Are the Dead Really Dead?"
54:41 Or you can text, what's the number they text if they want to
54:44 get it?
54:46 Carlos: Pound 250 on your mobile device, and just say, "Bible
54:48 Answers Live."
54:50 Jëan: And then ask for that, "Are the Dead Really Dead?"
54:52 and we'll send it out.
54:53 Well, friends, we don't have time, I'm looking at the clock,
54:55 we don't have time to take any more calls live, but stand by,
54:59 we are going to be taking your email questions that you've
55:01 sent in.
55:02 To those listening on satellite radio, until next week, may God
55:06 bless, and call in with your Bible questions.
55:09 Same time, same place next week, and we look forward to seeing
55:13 you then.
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55:33 Carlos: Alright, we want to welcome everybody for the
55:34 special section for our online viewers.
55:37 Email questions that you can send to
55:39 BALquestions@amazingfacts.org, and so the first question,
55:42 Pastor Ross, is from Alita, and it is, "Is it wrong to keep the
55:45 ashes of your loved ones in your home instead of burying or
55:48 scattering them somewhere?"
55:50 Jëan: No, it's not wrong.
55:51 If you want to keep them in a vase at home, you are more than
55:55 welcome to do that as well.
55:57 Remember, when it comes to the resurrection, God's not going to
56:00 be using any leftovers from the earth.
56:02 I mean, you think about it.
56:04 You have people that were burned at the stake during the time of
56:07 the reformation and even the early days when pagans
56:11 persecuted the Christians.
56:12 So, when Jesus comes and He resurrects the righteous, we get
56:15 brand new immortal bodies, so it doesn't matter if someone's
56:19 cremated, or buried, or if the ashes are scattered, or placed
56:24 in the ground.
56:25 God makes new things.
56:26 Carlos: Yes, next question from Joseph.
56:28 "Why was the serpent cursed when it was the devil who
56:30 possessed it?"
56:32 Jëan: Well, you know, the devil was the one that chose to
56:33 possess the serpent, and it's possible that the serpent was
56:37 one of the most beautiful creatures in the garden of Eden
56:41 before sin came.
56:42 Because the Bible says the curse that came upon the serpent, he's
56:46 going to go about on his belly, maybe he even had wings
56:48 before that.
56:50 But the serpent becomes a symbol or a type of the devil in
56:53 his rebellion.
56:55 It's unfortunate, but yeah, that's what happened to
56:56 the serpent.
56:58 But the lamb becomes a symbol of Christ, and those two symbols we
57:00 see throughout scripture.
57:02 Carlos: Last question is from David, "Did the war in heaven
57:04 take place shortly after Jesus's ascension to heaven after
57:07 his crucifixion?"
57:08 That's what it seems like in the book of Job.
57:10 And Satan still had access to heaven before the crucifixion
57:13 and doesn't get thrown out until the book of Revelation.
57:16 Jëan: Well, there are two parts to the war in heaven.
57:18 The first is the devil and his angels being cast out of heaven,
57:20 that occurred before the creation of the earth, but up
57:24 until the point of the crucifixion, it appears as
57:26 though the devil had some degree of access where he claimed to be
57:29 the representative of the earth, and you have reference there
57:32 to Job.
57:33 But when Jesus died on the cross, it says he's cast to the
57:36 earth, meaning that he's bound to the earth.
57:38 No longer can the devil claim to be the representative of the
57:41 earth, because Christ is now the second Adam.
57:43 Jesus is our representative in heaven.
57:46 So, there's the casting out of heaven that occurs before the
57:49 creation of the earth, and then there is the casting down of the
57:53 devil that occurs at the cross.
57:55 And so, the devil knows he has a short time and he's going around
57:57 like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, but God will
58:01 protect and provide for his people.
58:03 So, yes, the devil is sort of bound to this earth.
58:07 Well, friends, again, we want to thank you for calling in, being
58:09 a part of our "Bible Answers Live" program.
58:11 And as always, we want to remind you that this is a program, a
58:15 ministry, dedicated to sharing the gospel.
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