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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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Doug Batchelor:
Hello, listening friends.
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Would you like to
hear an amazing fact?
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In 1954, a little 4-year-old
girl, Marina Chapman, was
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abducted from her home
in a remote mountain village
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in South America.
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Evidently, something went
wrong with the kidnapping plans
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and her captors abandoned her
deep in the Colombian jungle.
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Though often tormented
by insects and loneliness,
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Marina miraculously
survived 5 years with the help
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of a troop of capuchin monkeys.
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There was plenty of water in the
jungle, and the monkeys would
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often leave her scraps of fruit
and seeds until she learned
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to find it for herself.
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She eventually learned to climb
trees and even catch small birds
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with her bare hands.
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When two hunters found her
5 years later, she'd forgotten
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any human language
and lost all inhibition.
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Not remembering her birth name,
she never found her family.
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Marina was later
adopted and became re-civilized,
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moved to the UK where
she married and had a family.
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A few years ago, her story
was produced in a book called
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"The Girl with No Name."
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Can you imagine that, Pastor
Ross, living out there in the
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jungle thinking you're an animal
and then discovering you're
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a human and it's like you find
out you're a different creature?
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Jean Ross: That's right.
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Yeah, just sort of being
raised by the monkeys, at least
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following their example and
finding what food you could and
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then, "Wow, there's
people like me out there."
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Doug: Yeah, there's not enough
time to tell the whole story,
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but she said she spent
enough time where she understood
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the simple
language of the monkeys.
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I mean, you know, they didn't
speak, but they had different
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signals for different things
and she could recognize them.
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And when people doubted her
story, some of the zoologists
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who listened to her descriptions
of the capuchin monkeys
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and how they communicate
they said she sounds like
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she lived with monkeys.
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She knew a lot about them, and--
anyway, she's still alive today.
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But it's a fascinating
story, and it makes me think
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about--finding out you're a
different creature reminds me of
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that verse--now, King James says
it a little differently there
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in 2 Corinthians 5:17.
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"If any man is in
Christ, he is a new creature."
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I think other
versions say a new creation.
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"Old things are
passed away; behold,
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all things are become new."
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And, boy, she had a whole
new life when she went from
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the jungle to being adopted
by a family and going from
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the jungle to living in England.
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I mean, talk about a
radical transformation.
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Jean: And of course, you
know, the point you bring up
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there, if we want to go from
living on this earth filled with
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sin and sorrow and suffering
and death to the new earth where
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there is peace and joy
and eternal life it requires
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a radical change.
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Jesus said to Nicodemus, "You
must be born again or you cannot
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even see the kingdom of heaven."
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So our free gift
talks about that experience
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of being born again.
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It's called "Life in the
Spirit," and this is free.
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We'll send it to
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If you're in North
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Pastor Doug, we have many people
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world, just go to the website.
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We have a free library, and
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Well, before we go to
the phone lines, as we always
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do we like to start
the program with prayer.
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So let's do that now.
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Dear Father, we thank You
for this time that we have to be
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able to open up Your Word
and study and, Father, it is
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our desire that because of
the program that's happening
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this evening that
lives will be transformed,
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that people might be born again.
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And so, Lord, we ask for
Your Spirit to guide in these--
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in the time together, in the
questions, and in the answers;
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and we ask this in Jesus's name.
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Amen. Doug: Amen.
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Jean: Our first
caller this evening is Dan
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listening in Colorado.
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Dan, you're on
"Bible Answers Live."
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Welcome.
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Dan: Hey, pastors.
Good evening to you.
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Doug: Evening.
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Dan: At such stances where
maybe driving a car and we're
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tempted to drive over this
motorcycle officer or if we're
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going to run our car off of
a bridge or so, does this come
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from a evil heart
or the wicked one?
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I get these
thoughts all the time.
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Of course, I do not act on them.
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Do they show my evil heart?
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Doug: Well, I do think that--
you know, all of us are fallen.
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Also keep in mind our minds are
kind of creative computers, and
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I'd be embarrassed for anybody
to see all the crazy thoughts
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that goes through my mind.
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You know, most of them we know
how to subdue and we put them
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out of our minds.
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But because God gave us
curiosity and He gave us
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imagination, there's all kind
of things that will swirl around
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in your brain.
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If there's any kind of thought
that is evil or you're going to,
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you know, harm somebody or
it's sinful or impure; when we
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recognize those
thoughts are coming,
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then we need to put them out.
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Some of it is the
temptation of the devil.
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Some of it--James says we're
drawn away by our own evil lust.
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And so in the same way the devil
was a free moral agent that was
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able to choose to do something
wrong, we also have that choice.
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Not every wicked thing we
do there's a devil behind it.
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I think sometimes
people just make those choices.
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And of course the devil is there
and his fallen angels to tempt
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us, but through the power of
Christ and the Spirit, you know,
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we can put out those thoughts.
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We can reject or
resist those thoughts.
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It's not a sin every time you're
tempted with a crazy thought.
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Even Jesus was
tempted, the Bible says.
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He was tempted to throw
himself down from the temple.
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Of course it was
the devil tempting him,
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but he rejected that.
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And whenever he was
tempted to do anything wrong,
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he rejected it.
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So we have that same privilege
through the same power.
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Jean: And, you know, I think
the book that we're offering
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for free called "Life in the
Spirit" will talk about that,
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how we can live that
victorious Christian life.
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And I think as
Pastor Doug mentioned,
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it's important to recognize
not every crazy thought is sin
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unless we dwell upon it.
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Those times you just
push that out of your mind and
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say--redirect your
thoughts to something wholesome.
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If you'd like to receive the
book, the number to call again
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is 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the book.
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It's called
"Life in the Spirit."
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Or dial #250 on your cell
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and say "Life in the Spirit."
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Thank you, Dan.
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We've got Debbie
listening in Canada.
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Debbie, you're on the air.
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Debbie: Hi, Pastor
Ross and Pastor Doug.
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How are you doing?
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Doug: Great.
Thank you for calling.
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Debbie: Okay, I have a question.
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First of all I have to say that
I'm in the YouTube chat, and
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last week there was a bunch of
us chatting about abortion and
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there was somebody in there that
doesn't think she'll ever be
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forgiven even when she
asks for forgiveness for having
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an abortion before she knew
Jesus and I was just wondering
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if you could give us
some insight on that, please.
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Doug: Yeah, the Bible is pretty
clear that the only sin that
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cannot be forgiven is what
you call the unpardonable sin.
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Some have thought; well, that
must be abortion or infanticide,
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but that's not true.
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God will even forgive that.
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You know, because of the
sin of David his baby was lost,
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and Manasseh
offered his children.
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They passed through the fire
he was--and God forgave him.
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And so of course if--any sin
that we're willing to repent of
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and forsake we will be forgiven.
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The Bible says all
manner of sin and blasphemy
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will be forgiven unto man.
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And so God is extremely
merciful, and we're--if we're
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genuinely sorry and we
repent He will forgive.
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And I pray that that young
lady, if she's listening now,
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will just believe that Jesus
is a better Savior than she is
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a sinner and He can save
to the uttermost the promises.
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Jean: And of course 1
John chapter 1, verse 9 says,
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"If we confess our sins, He is
faithful and just to forgive us,
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and to cleanse us
from all unrighteousness."
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There is no condition associated
with that but that we're willing
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to confess and forsake
and God is able to forgive.
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So we take courage
from those promises.
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Thank you, Debbie.
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We've got Gary
listening in Illinois.
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Gary, welcome to the program.
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Gary: Thank you.
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In Luke 22, verse 20 it says,
"This cup is the New Covenant
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in My blood,
which was shed for you."
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Now, again, shedding of blood
is talked about in Romans 3:25.
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"Whom God set forth as a
propitiation by His blood."
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Okay, so I looked up that
word and it means gift offering
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to remove wrath of God.
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So is the New Covenant
the removal of wrath of God?
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Doug: No--well,
the word covenant
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very simply means agreement.
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Every time you buy a house
or a car or even get married,
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it's a covenant.
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And so the old covenant
was ratified by the blood.
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It was symbolic.
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It was ratified by the
blood of goats and lambs.
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It was the law of God written
in the stone tablets where
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the people made a promise.
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They said, "All the
Lord has said we will do."
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It was an agreement.
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God said, "Keep
these commandments.
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I'll bless and protect you."
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They said, "All the
Lord has said we'll do."
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That was the agreement.
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It was ratified
with a sacrifice.
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The New Covenant is the same
law written now in our hearts
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instead of stone
ratified by the blood of Christ.
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And so the propitiation,
the intercession for our sins is
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made by the blood of Jesus,
but the covenant itself is the
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agreement that God will save us
because of the blood of Christ.
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And He puts a new heart
in us that causes us to walk
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in His ways and keep His laws.
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Gary: Thank
you. Doug: All right.
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And we--you know, we've got that
great study guide talking about
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the law where it
talks about--well,
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it's about grace and the law.
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I can't remember the
name of it right now, but--
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Jean: "Does God's
Grace Blot out the Law?"
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Doug: That's it. Yeah.
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That talks about the
covenants right there.
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That's the one. Thank you.
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Jean: That's right, the
number to call is 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the book.
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It's called "Does God's
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Junith is listening right
across the border in Nevada.
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Junith, welcome to the program.
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Junith: Blessed
evening to both of you.
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My question is
about the tree of life.
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As we all know, we're going to
worship the Lord of the Sabbath
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Jesus on the Sabbath
in Isaiah 66:22 to 23.
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My focus is the tree of life.
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Shall we have potluck in the
tree of life or can we access
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the tree of life any time
we want to because it's right
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nearby the throne of God?
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So maybe we cannot access
because we need some reverence
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around the throne of God,
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that all the time
that we can't access it?
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Doug: Yes, well,
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keep in mind the tree of
life is going to be replaced.
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The Garden of Eden that God
planted as near as we can tell,
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in the same way that New
Jerusalem is coming down from
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heaven, before the flood it
seems that God caught the garden
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up and--'cause that garden
is going to be in the new earth.
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Adam had free--as far as we
can tell he had free unlimited
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access to the tree, and
that is going to be restored.
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Everything is going to be
restored not just the same
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but even better.
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So I doubt that God is going
to ration how often you can eat
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from the tree.
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But in the same way in this
life, you know, you don't want
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to eat ice cream six times a
day, I think people are going to
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have self-control and they're
not going to eat it more than
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they need to.
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Jean: And, of course, the
Bible tells us that the fruit of
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the tree is somewhat unique,
a different kind of fruit every
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month on the tree of life.
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So you can get your fill
of June's fruit, whatever they
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might be, but then July; well,
there's a different kind of
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fruit on the tree, yeah.
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Maybe you got your favorite
type of fruit that comes around
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once a year.
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Who knows? But of course; yes,
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it's a symbol of
eternal life that we have.
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So something special.
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Mark is listening in Michigan.
Mark, welcome to the program.
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Mark: Good evening, pastors.
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In Joshua 6, it tells the story
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of Israel's
victory over Jericho.
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We recently heard an evangelist
say that the walls came down
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on the Sabbath.
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It's challenging to think God
scheduled the actual slaughter
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on the Sabbath.
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So is there any evidence
that the 7-day march began on
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a Sunday the first day or
on a different day of the week?
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Doug: Yeah, well,
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we don't know what day it
began, but I'm quite certain
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that God did not orchestrate
the walls of Jericho so that on
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the Sabbath day
they did the most work.
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When it talks about they
march around the city one time
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for 6 days, that means sequence.
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It doesn't mean day of the week.
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The first day of marching, you
know, they blew the trumpets and
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they marched around the city.
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Second day, third day--one
of those days may have been the
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Sabbath, but He didn't ask them
to do anything other than--you
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know, I tease folks and say they
were just taking a nature walk
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and special music
with the trumpets.
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That's all that happened.
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So that may have happened on the
Sabbath day, but I think the day
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that they actually attacked
the city it may have been
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a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
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We don't know.
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But I doubt it
was the Sabbath day.
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It's, you know, no more
than Israel today would launch
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a battle on the Sabbath day.
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Jean: And, you know, one of
the verse that comes to mind
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Jesus said--talking about the
destruction of Jerusalem that
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occurred in 70 AD, Christ
talking to his followers said,
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"Pray that your
flight be not in winter
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neither on the Sabbath day."
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Well, if he's talking about them
fleeing for their life and he
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says pray that you don't
have to do it on the Sabbath;
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well, it only makes sense then
that the conquering of Jericho
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with all the distraction
won't be on the Sabbath.
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Doug: Why would God command
that if He would tell them to
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pray in Matthew 24?
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That's right.
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Jean: All right, well, thank
you, Mark, appreciate that.
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We have Liam
listening from Ohio.
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Liam, welcome to the program.
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Liam: All right.
Thanks for taking my call.
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My question is regarding John 6.
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The way that I read it, it seems
like Jesus is claiming that his
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body blood, soul, and
divinity are part of the bread
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and wine of communion.
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And I'm really having a hard
time seeing it any other way,
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but I know that plenty of
Christians see it as just a
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symbol or--our Lutheran friends
see it as consubstantiation,
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and I was hoping you
could walk me through the way
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that you see it--
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Doug: Now, which
verses are you looking at?
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Liam: I mean, kind
of the whole thing.
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He feeds the 5,000 and
the Psalm 23 enactment.
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Doug: Says, "Unless you eat
my flesh and drink my blood,
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you have no life in you."
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Yeah, well, now keep in mind
at the Last Supper--so the big
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question, and this was a
big debate between Protestants
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and Catholics during the
reformation, is that is the
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priest actually converting
the emblems of the bread and the
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grape juice into the
literal body and blood of Jesus.
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And Luther, who at one
time was a Catholic priest, and
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Calvin--both Catholic priests,
they said, "No, it's a symbol."
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And their argument was when
Jesus had the last supper and
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he's sitting there with his
disciples and he's all intact
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and he points to the bread and
he says, "This is my body and
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this is my blood," he wasn't
asking them to participate in
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some kind of cannibalism because
for one thing that's forbidden
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in the Bible.
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You know, you're not supposed
to eat unclean food or blood.
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In fact, one of the first
commandments in the Bible is do
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not eat blood.
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So yeah, I think it's clearly
a symbol of the sacrifice that
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Jesus was making.
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And there's no need for the
Lord to actually biologically
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transfer, make that
grape juice into blood.
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You know, I think I've been to
communion services and I used to
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attend mass--Catholic mass
at military school and the bread
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was not human flesh.
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It was a wafer.
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And when the priest
drinks the grape juice, it's not
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blood--literal blood.
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So I think it's a
pretty strong argument that
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it's a symbol for the life.
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Now, you look in the
Old Testament and you've got
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the story of Melchizedek, who is
a type of Christ, and he brings
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out to Abraham bread and
wine and--that nourish the army.
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Well, Christ is like
Melchizedek, tells us in
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the Book of Hebrews, and
he nourishes us with his life
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and the gospel.
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So yeah, I think it's a symbol.
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Jean: Yeah, just to add to that
a little bit more, you know,
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if you look at the
actual passage itself,
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I think it gives us a clue.
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Jesus said, "Most
assuredly--" This is verse 53.
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"Most assuredly, I say unto you,
unless you eat the flesh of the
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son of man and drink his
blood, you have no life in you."
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Well, even the
disciples wondered about this.
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And there were many that were
in the crowd, it says, that they
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were offended and they
walked no longer with him,
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and Jesus turned to
his disciples and he said,
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"Are you also
going to forsake me?"
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And they said, "Well,
Lord, where are we going to go?
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You have the words of life."
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But then they
respond in verse 60.
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It says they said,
"This is a hard saying.
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Who can understand it?"
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So even them were
--they were puzzled.
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"What do you mean,
Jesus, eat your flesh
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and drink your blood?"
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Then Christ explains this.
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Verse 63 he says, "It is
the Spirit that gives life;
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the flesh profits nothing.
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The words that I speak unto you,
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they are spirit
and they are life."
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To eat the flesh and
drink the blood of Christ
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is to receive his Word.
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That's what Jesus said.
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So he's clearly
talking about symbols.
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And just as we need physical
food to give us physical
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strength, we need to
receive His Word and His Spirit
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in order for us to
have spiritual strength.
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Doug: Yeah.
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And then when Jesus says
in Matthew chapter 12 and--
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I think this still is verse 1.
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He says, "Beware of the
leaven of the Pharisees."
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And the disciples thought,
"Oh, we forgot to bring lunch."
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And Jesus says, "No,
no, not literal leaven."
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He said, "I'm
talking in spiritual terms.
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This is talking about the
teaching of the Pharisee."
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So Jesus often spot--spoken
symbols and the disciples
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thought, "Drink your
blood and eat your flesh?"
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And he said, "No,
no. It's a symbol."
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Jean: Great question,
though. Thank you, Liam.
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We've got Joe
listening in Arizona.
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Joe, welcome to the program.
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Joe: Hey, guys.
How are you tonight?
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Doug: Doing
great. Joe: All right.
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Well, I'm going to try
to keep this really simple.
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First off, is there an email
that can be sent 'cause I have a
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question but it's kind of a big
question and has lots of parts
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to it and I don't want to take
up all the time on your show?
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Doug: We do have an email.
00:19:38.01\00:19:39.54
Jean: Yeah, let
me give it to you.
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Yeah, it's simple.
00:19:41.51\00:19:42.71
It's just
BALquestions@amazingfacts.org.
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That's
BALquestions@amazingfacts.org.
00:19:45.55\00:19:49.95
Joe: All right. Thank you.
00:19:49.98\00:19:52.02
So my question is I was raised
the same way that you guys, I
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guess, preach; but I've recently
been listening to somebody I
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found on YouTube and his
whole ministry is that we're the
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angels from heaven, and it's
kind of ironic that you said in
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your opening about we're fallen
because that's what he says.
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And so my question is like
there's--the only problem I'm
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finding with it is--with the
fallen angels, the demons that
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are talked about in the Bible,
like when there was a demoniac
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and he threw the demons
out of the body into the pigs.
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So you have all of
these demons running around.
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So I'm assuming that
they had bodies to begin with.
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And just like Lucifer goes
in and out of, you know, people,
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where are their bodies
and--I mean, who are they?
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Is it just all the fallen
angels and all--they can go on
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anybody's bodies at any time?
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Doug: Yeah, well, first of all,
for our friends listening, the
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Bible tells us that, you
know, sin began with Lucifer,
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a great angel of
God who rebelled.
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He was cast out of heaven.
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He persuaded one-third of
the other angels, his former
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partners you might say, to
follow him and they've come
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to the earth.
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Now, the Bible says
angels are spiritual beings.
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They don't have
bodies like we do.
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Paul said we do not
wrestle against flesh and blood.
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So angels are
not flesh and blood.
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They've got some
kind of a spiritual body.
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It's different and sort of
a mystery for us, but they--
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you know, they can appear.
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Can the fallen angels
possess whoever they want?
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No.
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That's the
devil's complaint to God.
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He said, "You set
a hedge about Job."
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And so the Lord limits what
the devil can do to harm us, but
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some people open themselves up
to the devil and--you know, they
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can actually get to the point
where they're demon-possessed,
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and it's why Jesus cast out
devils and he sent the disciples
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forward saying,
"You can cast them out."
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Now, on the other question you
mentioned, the Bible is pretty
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clear people are not angels.
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They were separate creatures.
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People are not fallen angels.
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I think that's what our Mormons
friends teaches, that we come
00:22:04.95\00:22:08.89
down to earth and get bodies.
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It's almost like a
form of reincarnation.
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The Bible doesn't teach that.
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Our lives began when we
first became--when we're born
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and we became conscious of
our existence, and our eternity
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depends on what we do
with the gospel and this life.
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So do you want to
add anything to that?
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Jean: Yeah, I thought
00:22:27.81\00:22:29.31
maybe just the--we do
have a study guide called
00:22:29.34\00:22:30.88
"Did God Create the Devil?"
00:22:30.91\00:22:32.61
It talks about
the fall of Lucifer.
00:22:32.65\00:22:34.22
The Bible says,
speaking of the good angels,
00:22:34.25\00:22:35.72
they're our ministering spirits.
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And as Doug said, we don't
wrestle against flesh and blood.
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So there is a dimension of this
that we don't fully understand,
00:22:39.85\00:22:42.46
but they are very real.
00:22:42.49\00:22:44.99
If you'd like to
receive the study guide called
00:22:45.03\00:22:47.76
"Did God Create the Devil?"
00:22:47.76\00:22:49.06
we'll be happy to send that
to anyone who calls and ask.
00:22:49.10\00:22:51.17
The number for that is
800-835-6747 or just dial #250
00:22:51.20\00:22:55.60
on your cell phone, say
"Did God create a devil?"
00:22:55.64\00:22:59.44
And that's the
name of the study guide.
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We'll send it to you.
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Eron is listening from New
York. Eron, you're on the air.
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Eron: Hi. Good evening.
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Multiple places in the Bible
says we must confess our sins to
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God because only He can cleanse
us from our sins as He forgives
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us, but it says in James chapter
5, verse 16 that we should
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confess our faults or
trespasses to one another.
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Can you tell me the
meaning behind that verse?
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Doug: Sure, and he says part
of the reason for doing that is
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that we might pray for one
another that we can be healed.
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Can--and if you look in like
the New King James Version it
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doesn't say confess your sins,
it says confess your trespasses.
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There are different
words for sin and iniquity.
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And I think that it's
appropriate for believers to
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share with their friends,
you know, where I'm struggling
00:23:48.52\00:23:52.99
and in confidence you
can tell a person, you know,
00:23:53.03\00:23:56.03
"Please pray for me.
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I struggle with
gossip," or whatever it is.
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You're not required to
do that for forgiveness, you
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just--sometimes we'll share with
friends that we can trust areas
00:24:02.04\00:24:05.34
in our lives where we
need prayer, and we invite them
00:24:05.37\00:24:07.98
to intercede and pray for us.
00:24:08.01\00:24:09.84
But this is not an
admonition to confess sin.
00:24:09.88\00:24:14.32
You're not required to
confess sin to other people.
00:24:14.35\00:24:16.38
Jean: You know, one
preacher put it this way.
00:24:16.42\00:24:17.79
He said public sins need to be
confessed publicly, private sins
00:24:17.82\00:24:21.19
you need to confess
privately, and then individual--
00:24:21.22\00:24:24.39
if you sinned against an
individual you need to go
00:24:24.43\00:24:26.93
to them first and you need
to try and make things right.
00:24:26.96\00:24:29.06
So you've got
to pray for wisdom.
00:24:29.10\00:24:30.67
You know, sometimes
things happen in people's lives
00:24:30.70\00:24:33.47
and it's not for
everyone else to know about.
00:24:33.50\00:24:36.44
They need to reconcile with
their friend or work things out
00:24:36.47\00:24:39.67
and not make a big public scene
of it, but there are times where
00:24:39.71\00:24:43.71
if people are aware of something
that was done publicly you need
00:24:43.75\00:24:47.32
to confess that.
00:24:47.35\00:24:48.92
All right, hopefully
that helps, Eron, thank you.
00:24:48.95\00:24:51.25
We do have a book
talking about forgiveness.
00:24:51.29\00:24:53.42
And I'm trying to think
of the name, Pastor Doug.
00:24:53.46\00:24:55.69
I think you wrote the book.
00:24:55.72\00:24:57.19
Doug: Yeah,
it's--yeah, it's a new--
00:24:57.23\00:24:58.66
"The Gift of Forgiveness."
00:24:58.69\00:25:00.16
Jean: "The Gift
of Forgiveness," yes.
00:25:00.20\00:25:01.73
The number to call
for that is 800-835-6747.
00:25:01.76\00:25:04.90
We'll be happy to send that
to anyone who calls and ask.
00:25:04.93\00:25:06.67
Just dial #250.
00:25:06.70\00:25:08.94
And, Pastor Doug, you've got a
sermon, I always enjoy this one,
00:25:08.97\00:25:12.14
on forgiveness, and I
think it's available on--
00:25:12.17\00:25:14.51
Doug: Seventy times seven.
00:25:14.54\00:25:15.98
Jean: That's what it's
called, "Seventy Times Seven."
00:25:16.01\00:25:17.41
So anyone wanting to learn more
about that, just take a look
00:25:17.45\00:25:20.38
at that sermon and
you will be blessed.
00:25:20.42\00:25:22.72
We're going to Eron in--I
think we were just with Eron,
00:25:22.75\00:25:26.62
weren't we?
00:25:26.65\00:25:28.16
Christopher in California.
00:25:28.19\00:25:29.66
Christopher,
welcome to the program.
00:25:29.69\00:25:31.03
Christopher: Hello.
00:25:31.06\00:25:32.46
Jean: We have about 1
1/2 minute before the break.
00:25:32.49\00:25:34.46
Christopher: Okay, my question
is, would it be a sin for me to
00:25:34.50\00:25:38.70
buy from Apple and Microsoft
or any company that supports
00:25:38.73\00:25:42.17
abortion and LGBTQ rights?
00:25:42.20\00:25:45.94
Doug: All right. Well,
that's a great question.
00:25:45.97\00:25:50.15
Too bad we only have
30 seconds to answer it,
00:25:50.18\00:25:52.95
but let me just
explain it this way.
00:25:52.98\00:25:55.05
You know, there are--some
companies are so big and there
00:25:55.08\00:26:01.79
are banks that--like when
you put your money in a bank,
00:26:01.82\00:26:04.63
probably most major banks
probably have investments and
00:26:04.66\00:26:09.53
support some of these companies.
00:26:09.56\00:26:11.70
And you're going to go
crazy trying to buy food in
00:26:11.73\00:26:15.14
a supermarket that doesn't also
sell alcohol and cigarettes.
00:26:15.17\00:26:18.91
So are you supporting the
alcohol and cigarettes when you
00:26:18.94\00:26:21.08
buy your avocados
at a certain market?
00:26:21.11\00:26:23.24
At some point you
just got to say, "Look,
00:26:23.28\00:26:25.81
if I don't have peace
about it," you don't do it.
00:26:25.85\00:26:28.08
And--but, you know, some of
these are big conglomerates.
00:26:28.12\00:26:31.55
And you could actually say, "I'm
not going to do or buy anything
00:26:31.59\00:26:35.16
that's used by Apple
or Google and it's going
00:26:35.19\00:26:39.76
to sort of
eliminate everything."
00:26:39.79\00:26:41.43
So, you know, you have to be
careful and wise in how you make
00:26:41.46\00:26:47.14
those decisions or you could
actually be--end up on an island
00:26:47.17\00:26:49.70
or in a cave somewhere.
00:26:49.74\00:26:51.04
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Jean: My name is Jean Ross,
and we're going to go back to
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the phone lines.
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Next caller that we have
is Anna listening in Oregon.
00:31:12.47\00:31:14.40
Anna, you're on the air.
00:31:14.44\00:31:16.37
Anna: Evening,
pastors. Doug: Evening.
00:31:16.40\00:31:18.77
Anna: So I don't have
the verses like I usually do,
00:31:18.81\00:31:24.08
but in the beginning God
said that it was good for man
00:31:24.11\00:31:30.82
to not be alone.
00:31:30.85\00:31:34.32
But then I think in Matthew
Jesus says that if you can
00:31:34.36\00:31:39.76
keep from it, then do that.
00:31:39.79\00:31:44.23
So that's my question.
00:31:44.27\00:31:46.27
Doug: Yeah, good question.
00:31:46.30\00:31:48.17
So, you know, God originally
He said--when He made man
00:31:48.20\00:31:52.14
He says it's not
good for man to be alone.
00:31:52.17\00:31:53.84
Now, that was just a--I think
that's an umbrella truth that
00:31:53.88\00:31:58.58
God made man to
be a social creature.
00:31:58.61\00:32:01.18
Man is made for relationship.
00:32:01.22\00:32:03.22
And of course, He made
woman 'cause the ultimate in
00:32:03.25\00:32:06.12
that relationship is a
man and a woman and a family.
00:32:06.15\00:32:09.46
But I think it's good
that people aren't alone, just
00:32:09.49\00:32:12.43
even--He wants us to
have friends and be social,
00:32:12.46\00:32:14.36
have accountability.
00:32:14.36\00:32:15.96
Jesus sent people out two by two
and it was, you know, two men.
00:32:16.00\00:32:19.20
So it was important for them
to have relationship as well.
00:32:19.23\00:32:22.37
But Paul--now, Jesus
never said it's wrong to marry.
00:32:22.40\00:32:25.31
Jesus said that in the last days
woe to those that are with child
00:32:25.34\00:32:28.91
and nursing during
the great time of trouble,
00:32:28.94\00:32:32.05
and Paul alludes to that.
00:32:32.08\00:32:33.95
There was a great time of
persecution during Paul's time,
00:32:33.98\00:32:36.62
and he says in those cases
it might be better not to marry.
00:32:36.65\00:32:39.72
Do you have that, Pastor Ross?
00:32:39.75\00:32:41.29
Jean: Yeah, you'll find in 1
Corinthians chapter 7, verse 6
00:32:41.32\00:32:43.53
where, again, the context
there is this persecution coming
00:32:43.56\00:32:46.70
upon the Christ--on the church.
00:32:46.73\00:32:48.93
He says, "For I wish that all
men even--were even as myself,
00:32:48.96\00:32:52.37
but each one has
his own gift from God,
00:32:52.40\00:32:54.64
one in this manner
and another in that.
00:32:54.67\00:32:56.54
But I say to the unmarried and
to the widows: it is good for
00:32:56.57\00:32:59.41
them if they remain even as I
am; but if they cannot exercise
00:32:59.44\00:33:03.08
self-control, let them marry.
00:33:03.11\00:33:05.21
For it is better to marry
than to burn with passion."
00:33:05.25\00:33:07.75
So, you know, at a time of
severe persecution, of course
00:33:07.78\00:33:11.12
this wasn't just in the time
of Jesus or, you know, 70 AD
00:33:11.15\00:33:14.69
when Jerusalem was
destroyed in 1st century.
00:33:14.72\00:33:17.79
But there were times of
persecution even during the dark
00:33:17.83\00:33:20.06
ages where it was
difficult to support a family.
00:33:20.10\00:33:22.86
People were running or
moving from place to place.
00:33:22.90\00:33:24.90
When it came to mission
activity, sometimes it was
00:33:24.93\00:33:27.50
easier for missionaries
to enter into difficult areas
00:33:27.54\00:33:30.97
and to go maybe unmarried.
00:33:31.01\00:33:34.08
But this is not a general
statement 'cause it's pretty
00:33:34.11\00:33:37.68
clear that God created them
male and female in the beginning
00:33:37.71\00:33:40.28
and He performed the first
wedding, and it is a type of
00:33:40.32\00:33:43.82
the relationship that God
wants to have with His church.
00:33:43.85\00:33:46.99
So there's nothing
wrong with marriage.
00:33:47.02\00:33:48.72
Doug: Yeah, of course Paul,
00:33:48.76\00:33:50.56
he says husbands love
your wives, wives love your
00:33:50.59\00:33:52.49
husbands; and he talks a lot
about marriage and the marriage
00:33:52.53\00:33:55.40
relationship and he says
the marriage bed is undefiled.
00:33:55.43\00:33:58.03
And so, you know, Paul made this
one statement and it was during
00:33:58.07\00:34:01.14
a time of persecution.
00:34:01.17\00:34:02.44
He's also talking to people
who are involved itinerant
00:34:02.47\00:34:06.11
preaching, and he said it's a
little easier to get around and
00:34:06.14\00:34:09.81
preach the gospel if you
don't have a family and kids.
00:34:09.84\00:34:12.65
So does that make
sense hopefully, Anna?
00:34:12.68\00:34:16.15
Anna: Yeah. Yeah, it does.
00:34:16.18\00:34:18.39
But I mean, didn't Jesus
say in Matthew that if you can
00:34:18.42\00:34:26.13
keep from it then do that?
00:34:26.16\00:34:30.10
Doug: Well, Jesus--yeah,
Jesus said some people are
00:34:30.13\00:34:34.20
born eunuchs, some
people are made eunuchs of man,
00:34:34.24\00:34:36.54
but each one has his own gift.
00:34:36.57\00:34:38.67
I don't know that Jesus was ever
advocating, that he did warn
00:34:38.71\00:34:43.14
during the time of trouble that,
you know, it could be hard for
00:34:43.18\00:34:47.08
those that are with children.
00:34:47.12\00:34:48.62
But I don't think Jesus had a--
00:34:48.65\00:34:50.05
Jean: None of the
apostles were married.
00:34:50.09\00:34:51.69
You know, Peter was married
'cause he speaks about Jesus
00:34:51.72\00:34:53.42
performing a miracle of healing
his mother-in-law and there were
00:34:53.46\00:34:55.62
a woman that traveled with
Christ and the disciples and
00:34:55.66\00:34:57.73
helped provide.
00:34:57.76\00:34:59.63
So yeah, he was
not against marriage.
00:34:59.66\00:35:01.26
Doug: Yep. Thanks, Anna.
00:35:01.30\00:35:02.80
Jean: Okay, Robert
listening in Washington.
00:35:02.83\00:35:04.20
Robert, welcome to the program.
00:35:04.23\00:35:05.93
Robert: Hello,
Pastor Ross, Pastor Doug.
00:35:05.97\00:35:07.77
Doug: Hi, Robert.
Thanks for calling.
00:35:07.80\00:35:10.04
Robert: No problemo.
00:35:10.07\00:35:12.37
I have three Bible verses here
00:35:12.41\00:35:15.41
and they all sort of
contradict each other.
00:35:15.44\00:35:19.31
I guess you've
got a couple of them.
00:35:19.35\00:35:22.52
Galatians 5:4 where
we're estranged from Christ by
00:35:22.55\00:35:25.79
attempting to be
justified by keeping the law.
00:35:25.82\00:35:28.96
And then there's Romans 3:20,
00:35:28.99\00:35:31.33
"By the deeds of the law
no flesh will be justified."
00:35:31.36\00:35:34.30
But then there's the opposite
the one on ad verse where it
00:35:34.36\00:35:39.27
says in Romans 2:13,
"The doers of the law
00:35:39.30\00:35:43.20
will be justified
by keeping the law."
00:35:43.24\00:35:48.11
Doug: Yeah, well, I don't think
there's a contradiction because
00:35:48.14\00:35:51.65
the word law--and you
have to read the context.
00:35:51.68\00:35:54.32
The word law could
mean one of several things.
00:35:54.35\00:35:56.25
You have the moral law
of the Ten Commandments.
00:35:56.28\00:35:59.09
And by the way, in the
Old Testament God actually
00:35:59.12\00:36:01.66
makes the distinction
between the different laws.
00:36:01.69\00:36:04.06
And so Paul writing to
these people they understood.
00:36:04.09\00:36:06.86
When he's talking to the
Galatians, the Ten Commandments
00:36:06.90\00:36:09.93
are never
mentioned in Galatians.
00:36:09.96\00:36:11.90
It's really--well, I shouldn't
say they're never mentioned.
00:36:11.93\00:36:13.94
The big--the particular
commandment that is mentioned
00:36:13.97\00:36:17.14
in Galatians is
talking about circumcision.
00:36:17.17\00:36:19.54
They were believing that they
were going to become righteous
00:36:19.57\00:36:23.35
through obeying some
of these ceremonial laws.
00:36:23.38\00:36:26.92
You know, Paul would never
say it's now okay to kill or lie
00:36:26.95\00:36:30.82
or steal or break
the Ten Commandments.
00:36:30.85\00:36:32.72
So I think most people,
that's what you would call
00:36:32.75\00:36:34.76
a self-evident truth that
God is never saying it's okay
00:36:34.79\00:36:38.43
to break those laws.
00:36:38.46\00:36:40.00
Now, we're not
justified by keeping any law.
00:36:40.03\00:36:42.10
We're all justified by faith.
00:36:42.13\00:36:44.00
But then when we
are saved by faith,
00:36:44.03\00:36:46.60
we want to obey God's law.
00:36:46.63\00:36:48.77
And so that's what he's talking
about there in Romans chapter
00:36:48.80\00:36:51.41
2:13, that there's--we're
justified by obedience.
00:36:51.44\00:36:57.31
And so--I don't know,
hopefully that made sense.
00:36:57.35\00:37:01.55
You know, the--we're judged
by our works, and you read this
00:37:01.58\00:37:06.76
in Revelation chapter 1.
00:37:06.79\00:37:08.22
We're judged by our works
because our works demonstrate
00:37:08.26\00:37:10.76
if we've been saved by faith.
00:37:10.79\00:37:12.76
Now, that's the key
if you understand that.
00:37:12.79\00:37:14.30
If you are saved by
faith, your works and obedience
00:37:14.36\00:37:17.60
will be different.
00:37:17.63\00:37:19.00
So, you know, Solomon
in the end of his book he
00:37:19.03\00:37:22.74
said, "Here's the
whole duty of man.
00:37:22.77\00:37:24.64
Fear God and keep His
commandments, for God will bring
00:37:24.67\00:37:27.48
every work into judgment
with every secret thing."
00:37:27.51\00:37:29.61
Any thoughts?
00:37:29.64\00:37:31.25
Jean: Yeah.
Well, we've got a book.
00:37:31.28\00:37:32.88
It's called, "Does
God's Grace Blot Out the Law?"
00:37:32.91\00:37:34.65
And it deals with
these very passages.
00:37:34.68\00:37:36.35
The number to call
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00:37:36.38\00:37:39.85
You can ask for the book "Does
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00:37:53.60\00:37:56.81
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00:37:56.84\00:37:58.17
Next caller that we
have is Lisa in California.
00:37:58.21\00:38:00.51
Lisa, you're on
"Bible Answers Live."
00:38:00.54\00:38:02.61
Lisa: Hi, hi.
Good evening, pastors.
00:38:02.64\00:38:05.28
Doug: Evening. Lisa: Hi.
00:38:05.31\00:38:07.68
So my daughter was
baptized a Christian.
00:38:07.72\00:38:11.75
She has been in
the Christian colleges.
00:38:11.79\00:38:14.16
She was raised a Christian.
00:38:14.19\00:38:15.69
To cut the story short,
last month she came and told me
00:38:15.72\00:38:19.59
and my family that
she was a trans man.
00:38:19.63\00:38:23.16
So my question is, is in the
Bible I know it mentions things
00:38:23.20\00:38:28.67
that if you surround
yourself with certain types of
00:38:28.70\00:38:32.81
people--like I think it's
Proverbs 13:20, the wise that
00:38:32.84\00:38:35.48
the wise, just surrounding
yourself with wholesome people
00:38:35.51\00:38:38.48
so that you won't be influenced.
00:38:38.51\00:38:40.25
So I have four minor children
and they all look up to her.
00:38:40.28\00:38:43.99
And so my concern and my
question is, what if that person
00:38:44.02\00:38:47.99
is your daughter?
00:38:48.02\00:38:49.79
She's an adult, she's in
college, but I'm concerned about
00:38:49.82\00:38:52.59
my little ones 'cause I've been
trying to keep this away from
00:38:52.63\00:38:55.03
them--not away, but try to teach
them how it's not acceptable.
00:38:55.06\00:38:58.53
How we love people but it's just
not acceptable, but at the same
00:38:58.57\00:39:01.47
time now it's in the family.
00:39:01.50\00:39:03.17
So what does the Bible
say when it's your family?
00:39:03.20\00:39:05.81
Doug: Yeah, that
is very difficult.
00:39:05.84\00:39:08.04
And it's just--you know,
it's sort of indicative of the
00:39:08.08\00:39:10.68
culture we're in right now.
00:39:10.71\00:39:12.38
The devil is going
after all the young people,
00:39:12.41\00:39:14.82
and he's getting them all mixed
up about their gender identity.
00:39:14.85\00:39:18.65
They're never--the scope
of the problem was never like
00:39:18.69\00:39:21.82
it is now because it's
almost been subsidized.
00:39:21.86\00:39:24.93
But what do you
do in your family?
00:39:24.96\00:39:27.40
You know, you love your
daughter and you want to show
00:39:27.46\00:39:30.87
unconditional love and
acceptance, but you certainly
00:39:30.90\00:39:32.60
don't approve of the lifestyle.
00:39:32.63\00:39:34.44
And how do you protect the
children from an unwholesome
00:39:34.47\00:39:38.07
influence or the wrong
messaging coming to them?
00:39:38.11\00:39:41.81
Well, that takes
the wisdom of Solomon
00:39:41.84\00:39:44.61
and the courage of Elijah.
00:39:44.65\00:39:46.72
I think that what you have to
do is--you know, you want your
00:39:46.75\00:39:52.25
older daughter to feel that she
can come to you and that there's
00:39:52.29\00:39:55.76
love there, but you probably
need to have a conversation
00:39:55.79\00:39:58.09
where you say, "You know, you
know we don't approve of this,
00:39:58.13\00:40:00.60
and we sure don't want
that influence on the kids.
00:40:00.63\00:40:03.50
You know, we'd ask
that you respect that."
00:40:03.53\00:40:06.17
And just monitor
their interaction.
00:40:06.20\00:40:09.94
If there's no respect for that
decision, then you might say,
00:40:09.97\00:40:14.81
"You know, we don't want
you around the little kids
00:40:14.84\00:40:18.31
unless we're
around," or--I don't know.
00:40:18.35\00:40:20.45
You'd have to have some
boundaries or something.
00:40:20.48\00:40:22.78
But that is a tough situation.
00:40:22.82\00:40:25.59
Jean: It is. It is a tough one.
00:40:25.62\00:40:26.76
As you said, Pastor Doug,
it seems like it's becoming
00:40:26.79\00:40:28.29
an epidemic in our society.
00:40:28.32\00:40:30.03
It's almost being
promoted, it seems like.
00:40:30.06\00:40:32.06
Social media and
all the rest of it.
00:40:32.09\00:40:34.46
But I think as a parent, you
know, your first priority is to
00:40:34.50\00:40:38.53
try and protect your children,
especially the younger ones,
00:40:38.57\00:40:42.47
and still be kind to
the older ones that might be
00:40:42.50\00:40:46.98
making decisions contrary to us.
00:40:47.01\00:40:48.68
But setting those
boundaries I think is important.
00:40:48.71\00:40:51.68
All right. Thank you, Lisa.
00:40:51.71\00:40:54.02
We've got Sam
listening in Arizona.
00:40:54.05\00:40:55.45
Sam, welcome to the program.
00:40:55.48\00:40:58.39
Sam: My question is I know
that we're not supposed to buy
00:40:58.42\00:41:02.39
or sell on the Sabbath, and I
wanted to know if you guys have
00:41:02.42\00:41:07.23
ever had a challenge with that.
00:41:07.23\00:41:10.30
I mean, I know you
guys travel and such.
00:41:10.33\00:41:12.70
Doug: Sure, well, I--you
know, Pastor Ross can speak for
00:41:12.73\00:41:16.40
himself, but--and by the way,
this is not like a church law.
00:41:16.44\00:41:19.87
It tells us in the Book of
Nehemiah that the people were
00:41:19.91\00:41:24.28
not supposed to be getting
involved in business and buying
00:41:24.31\00:41:27.68
and selling on the Sabbath.
00:41:27.72\00:41:29.35
It was a holy day.
00:41:29.38\00:41:30.75
It's not a day
for doing our work.
00:41:30.79\00:41:32.55
In our family, most
Sabbath keepers, whether you're
00:41:32.59\00:41:34.36
Christians or Jews, you know,
if you've got to buy things,
00:41:34.39\00:41:37.36
you do your shopping,
you don't do that on Sabbath.
00:41:37.39\00:41:39.79
That's just sort of--and that's
why you've even got blue laws
00:41:39.83\00:41:43.43
in the country.
00:41:43.47\00:41:45.30
It's because the early
Christians realize you're not
00:41:45.33\00:41:47.57
supposed to be
shopping on Sunday
00:41:47.60\00:41:49.50
and they actually outlawed it.
00:41:49.54\00:41:50.91
Now, I'm not saying
that that should happen,
00:41:50.94\00:41:52.34
but I'm just saying
that's why those laws came from.
00:41:52.37\00:41:54.34
They knew that that
was not a day for shopping.
00:41:54.38\00:41:56.31
So--but in every now and then,
and Pastor Ross and I we travel
00:41:56.34\00:42:00.38
internationally, and I'll
be taking another international
00:42:00.42\00:42:03.62
trip next week, sometimes when
the time change and airports are
00:42:03.65\00:42:09.42
delayed you find yourself even
in spite of your best planning
00:42:09.46\00:42:14.23
things go wrong and
all of a sudden you've--
00:42:14.30\00:42:16.20
you're in some foreign country
and the Sabbath is coming.
00:42:16.23\00:42:19.00
You'll be caught in emergencies.
00:42:19.03\00:42:20.97
And Jesus said, you know,
sometimes the ox is in the ditch
00:42:21.00\00:42:23.27
and you do your best
to prepare to avoid that,
00:42:23.30\00:42:26.14
but I think God is a
loving and understanding God.
00:42:26.17\00:42:29.74
And there's a place in
the Bible where Hezekiah
00:42:29.78\00:42:32.15
he prayed one time.
00:42:32.18\00:42:34.08
The priests were trying to
keep up with the demands of
00:42:34.12\00:42:37.32
the people for offering
sacrifice and Hezekiah said,
00:42:37.35\00:42:40.36
"They haven't had a chance
00:42:40.39\00:42:41.89
to cleanse
themselves the way they should.
00:42:41.92\00:42:43.32
Lord, have mercy on them."
00:42:43.36\00:42:44.53
And God heard his prayer
and forgave the priests so they
00:42:44.56\00:42:46.53
could just keep up with
the demand for sacrifice.
00:42:46.56\00:42:49.60
So I think God is a practical
God, but we should do everything
00:42:49.63\00:42:53.54
we can to avoid those occasions.
00:42:53.57\00:42:55.87
Jean: Yes, interesting.
00:42:55.90\00:42:57.64
Even back in the time of Christ,
the day before the Sabbath, our
00:42:57.67\00:43:00.88
Friday, was referred
to as the preparation day.
00:43:00.91\00:43:03.68
And so they--knowing the Sabbath
was coming, they would buy
00:43:03.71\00:43:06.45
what they have to buy.
00:43:06.48\00:43:07.78
They would cook with
that so that on the Sabbath
00:43:07.82\00:43:09.72
they could rest.
00:43:09.75\00:43:11.39
And so I think even today
we want to do as much of the
00:43:11.42\00:43:13.39
shopping and the preparation
as possible the day before the
00:43:13.42\00:43:17.19
Sabbath so we can rest.
00:43:17.23\00:43:19.29
However, as Pastor Doug says,
there are times where somebody
00:43:19.33\00:43:22.43
in the family might get sick and
you need to take a trip to the
00:43:22.46\00:43:25.13
pharmacy to get some medicine.
00:43:25.17\00:43:27.07
That's perfectly okay.
00:43:27.10\00:43:28.94
That is an emergency type
of situation, but we want to
00:43:28.97\00:43:31.91
prepare as much as
possible beforehand.
00:43:31.94\00:43:34.04
Doug: Yeah. And I
found one of the verses.
00:43:34.08\00:43:35.74
It's in Nehemiah chapter
13, verse 17, and Nehemiah says,
00:43:35.78\00:43:40.08
"Then I contended
with the nobles of Judah."
00:43:40.12\00:43:42.38
This is when they were
having the people of Tyre.
00:43:42.42\00:43:44.55
They were coming and
buying and selling in the city.
00:43:44.59\00:43:46.52
"I contended with them and said,
'What evil thing is this you do
00:43:46.55\00:43:48.46
and you profaning the Sabbath?
00:43:48.49\00:43:51.06
Did not your fathers do this?
00:43:51.09\00:43:52.63
Did not our God bring all
this disaster on this city?
00:43:52.66\00:43:55.60
Yet you bring
out a wrath on Israel
00:43:55.63\00:43:57.67
by profaning the Sabbath.'
00:43:57.70\00:43:58.83
So it was at the gates of
Jerusalem as it began to be dark
00:43:58.87\00:44:01.97
before the Sabbath, I commanded
the gates to be shut.'"
00:44:02.00\00:44:04.37
'Cause all the pagans
were coming in to sell things,
00:44:04.41\00:44:06.34
people couldn't
resist the temptation.
00:44:06.37\00:44:08.01
It was on sale, you know.
00:44:08.04\00:44:09.68
So they understood that
even going way back then.
00:44:09.71\00:44:12.18
Jean: All right. Thank you.
00:44:12.21\00:44:14.18
Next caller that we have
is Jim listening in Texas.
00:44:14.22\00:44:16.18
Jim, welcome to the program.
00:44:16.22\00:44:17.72
Jim: Thank you,
gentlemen. Doug: Sure.
00:44:17.75\00:44:20.42
Jim: My question is
pertaining to Jesus being
00:44:20.46\00:44:24.99
in the tomb three
days and three nights.
00:44:25.03\00:44:28.10
And I've heard Pastor
Doug explain pushing back into
00:44:28.13\00:44:30.47
Thursday when he's beginning
to--when he's arrested and all.
00:44:30.50\00:44:34.84
But that's still Thursday,
Friday, Saturday nights.
00:44:34.87\00:44:38.04
I still don't get
where the 2 days come--
00:44:38.07\00:44:40.64
the third day comes in.
00:44:40.68\00:44:42.58
Doug: Yeah, well, that time
period overlaps into 3 days.
00:44:42.61\00:44:48.62
So the sufferings of Christ--you
know, sufferings of Jesus began
00:44:48.65\00:44:52.95
even before he was arrested
in the Garden of Gethsemane.
00:44:52.99\00:44:57.89
He's, you know,
praying and sweating blood.
00:44:57.93\00:45:00.96
It's--he was in agony before
anyone else laid a hand on him.
00:45:00.96\00:45:05.33
So--and Jesus, you
know, he explained even
00:45:05.37\00:45:09.30
in the last
supper that heaviness.
00:45:09.34\00:45:12.74
So I think that you can
count Thursday as part of that.
00:45:12.77\00:45:16.58
So you got
Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
00:45:16.61\00:45:18.91
He rises Sunday morning.
00:45:18.95\00:45:20.62
And in the Jewish calculation
any part of a day could be
00:45:20.65\00:45:22.85
considered the day.
00:45:22.88\00:45:24.75
So if the experience
bled over into a day,
00:45:24.79\00:45:28.26
you could count that day.
00:45:28.29\00:45:30.03
They didn't count it by
the minutes and the hours.
00:45:30.06\00:45:31.96
Jean: You know, we have a book.
00:45:31.99\00:45:33.63
It's called "The Sign of Jonah,"
and it talks about three days,
00:45:33.66\00:45:36.43
three nights and that'll explain
that even in more detail.
00:45:36.46\00:45:39.63
So to get that, just call
800-835-6747 or you dial #250
00:45:39.67\00:45:46.01
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Answers Live" and ask for the
00:45:46.04\00:45:49.21
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Nights, The Sign of Jonah,"
00:45:49.24\00:45:52.18
and we'll send that to you.
00:45:52.21\00:45:53.95
Next caller that we have
is John listening in Nebraska.
00:45:53.98\00:45:56.65
John, welcome to the program.
00:45:56.69\00:45:58.75
John: Yeah. Good
evening, pastors.
00:45:58.79\00:46:01.16
Doug: Hi. How are you doing?
00:46:01.19\00:46:03.49
John: Got a question
from Revelation verse--
00:46:03.53\00:46:07.60
chapter 2, verse 10.
00:46:07.60\00:46:10.53
It states in there, of course,
we're not to fear our upcoming
00:46:10.57\00:46:14.60
problems that the devil is going
to put on to us, but it says our
00:46:14.64\00:46:18.14
trials and
tribulations will be 10 days.
00:46:18.17\00:46:20.58
Can you please
explain the 10 days?
00:46:20.61\00:46:22.74
Doug: Yeah, this is the
message--and Pastor Ross
00:46:22.78\00:46:25.78
may want to
comment on this as well.
00:46:25.81\00:46:27.45
This is the message
to the church of Smyrna.
00:46:27.48\00:46:30.12
This is one of the
ages of the church.
00:46:30.15\00:46:31.95
I think it's the second age
of the church after Ephesus.
00:46:31.99\00:46:34.62
There was a time
of great persecution.
00:46:34.66\00:46:36.52
In prophecy, a
day represents a year.
00:46:36.56\00:46:39.43
And this was a time of severe
persecution, I believe under
00:46:39.46\00:46:42.73
the Emperor Diocletian.
00:46:42.76\00:46:44.57
Jean: Yeah, from the year 303
00:46:44.60\00:46:47.54
through 313, a
total of 10 years.
00:46:47.57\00:46:50.01
And this--of course,
there was persecution throughout
00:46:50.04\00:46:52.21
the period of Rome and the
Christians, but this 10-year
00:46:52.24\00:46:55.48
period was Diocletian's
attempt to completely
00:46:55.51\00:46:58.08
eradicate Christianity.
00:46:58.11\00:47:00.42
And, of course, Christianity was
legalized by Constantine in 313.
00:47:00.45\00:47:05.02
So 10 years before that
there were a terrible time of
00:47:05.05\00:47:08.42
persecution that took place
in Rome and all of the Roman
00:47:08.46\00:47:11.03
provinces throughout Asia Minor.
00:47:11.06\00:47:12.89
Doug Yeah, they not only burnt
Christians, they burned Bibles.
00:47:12.93\00:47:15.56
He was trying to, like you said,
eliminate the Christian faith.
00:47:15.60\00:47:19.37
So it's not talking
about 10 days in the future.
00:47:19.40\00:47:22.57
That message to the church
of Smyrna is describing 10 days
00:47:22.60\00:47:26.71
during that second
age of church history.
00:47:26.74\00:47:30.28
Okay, thanks so much.
00:47:30.31\00:47:32.31
Jean: Steven in California.
Steven, welcome to the program.
00:47:32.35\00:47:35.28
Steven: I was wondering seven
men married the same woman.
00:47:35.32\00:47:40.46
They were all brothers.
00:47:40.49\00:47:42.36
One died after the other, and
they asked whose wife she would
00:47:42.39\00:47:44.93
be in heaven and Jesus said
for when they arrived they need
00:47:44.96\00:47:50.47
to marry or given in
marriage--or as the angels.
00:47:50.50\00:47:55.07
So is there a Scripture
that actually says we will be
00:47:55.10\00:47:58.31
reunited with our loved ones?
00:47:58.34\00:48:00.74
Doug: Well, we'll be
reunited with saved loved ones.
00:48:00.78\00:48:04.35
And you could look at 1
Thessalonians chapter 4,
00:48:04.38\00:48:07.05
verse 16.
00:48:07.08\00:48:08.85
"For the Lord Himself
will descend from heaven with
00:48:08.88\00:48:11.42
a shout, with the voice of
the archangel and the trumpet
00:48:11.45\00:48:14.19
of God, and the dead
in Christ will rise first.
00:48:14.22\00:48:17.23
Then we who are alive
and remain shall be caught up
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together with them."
00:48:20.63\00:48:22.36
So there you have it.
We are together with them.
00:48:22.40\00:48:24.90
"In the clouds to
meet the Lord in the air.
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Thus we will
always be with the Lord.
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Comfort one
another with these words."
00:48:28.90\00:48:31.04
He's--Paul's
saying--he was actually writing
00:48:31.07\00:48:33.34
to the Thessalonians.
00:48:33.38\00:48:34.58
He says, "You don't need to
sorrow about--as others 'cause
00:48:34.61\00:48:36.78
you've lost your loved ones.
00:48:36.81\00:48:38.15
You'll be reunited."
00:48:38.18\00:48:39.65
And the understanding is with
those who have died in faith,
00:48:39.68\00:48:42.35
the dead in Christ.
00:48:42.38\00:48:43.75
Jean: And one more verse, 1
Corinthians chapter 13, verse 12
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Paul writes, "For now we
see as in a mirror, dimly,
00:48:46.22\00:48:49.26
but then face to face.
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Now I know in part, but then I
shall know just as I am known."
00:48:51.66\00:48:55.96
So we get to know each other.
00:48:56.00\00:48:57.73
We're going to interact.
00:48:57.77\00:48:59.40
We're going to be
able to worship God.
00:48:59.43\00:49:00.80
We'll see our
loved ones, our friends.
00:49:00.84\00:49:02.40
It will be a day of
reunion when Jesus comes.
00:49:02.44\00:49:04.27
All right. Thank you, Steven.
00:49:04.31\00:49:05.84
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Dave is listening in Florida.
00:49:23.49\00:49:25.79
Dave, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:49:25.83\00:49:27.86
Dave: Hey,
pastors. How are you doing?
00:49:27.93\00:49:30.93
Doug: Doing well,
thank you. And you?
00:49:30.97\00:49:32.77
Dave: I'm quite fine.
00:49:32.80\00:49:35.47
I was having a
Bible study yesterday.
00:49:35.50\00:49:39.37
I stumbled upon Matthew 10,
verse 28 where it says that fear
00:49:39.41\00:49:45.98
him not which killed the
body but cannot kill the soul,
00:49:46.01\00:49:50.22
but rather fear him who
can can destroy both body
00:49:50.25\00:49:52.95
and soul in hell.
00:49:52.99\00:49:55.62
Could you clarify that
for me a little bit 'cause
00:49:55.66\00:49:58.23
I'm a little bit
confused in that part?
00:49:58.26\00:50:01.10
Doug: Yeah, well, I
think that all of us know
00:50:01.13\00:50:03.50
that we've got a physical body.
00:50:03.53\00:50:05.43
And so the Lord is
talking about that there.
00:50:05.47\00:50:07.87
And a person could have
a physical body without any
00:50:07.90\00:50:10.41
personality in it.
00:50:10.44\00:50:11.94
You know, if a person is brain
dead, their body might keep
00:50:11.97\00:50:15.24
functioning
but--it's like the, you know,
00:50:15.28\00:50:17.25
lights are on but no one's home.
00:50:17.28\00:50:19.11
So you've got your character,
which is the combination of
00:50:19.15\00:50:23.22
your spirit of life and
the body, your personality.
00:50:23.25\00:50:27.16
Jesus said don't be afraid
of those who might torture your
00:50:27.19\00:50:30.79
body and they can't really
touch your soul, soul meaning
00:50:30.83\00:50:33.66
the part of you that
will be your personality
00:50:33.70\00:50:36.73
in a new body in heaven.
00:50:36.77\00:50:39.27
Said, "But fear him who
can destroy both the body
00:50:39.30\00:50:42.44
and the soul in
the lake of fire."
00:50:42.47\00:50:45.91
So--I don't know.
00:50:45.94\00:50:48.54
Does that answer
what you're asking?
00:50:48.58\00:50:50.75
Dave: Kind of.
00:50:50.78\00:50:52.68
'Cause what I want to
get clarification because I
00:50:52.71\00:50:54.78
know--other person will
read this and say--use this to
00:50:54.82\00:50:57.49
justify to say; yes, since
we have body and we have a soul,
00:50:57.52\00:51:02.96
which, you know, the
world believes in, you know,
00:51:02.99\00:51:05.66
when you die your, you
know, spirit as they say.
00:51:05.69\00:51:08.13
So I just want--as I said,
you know, like when I was doing
00:51:08.16\00:51:14.14
the study that the Spirit said
to me that--you know, I think
00:51:14.17\00:51:16.81
the same thing that you said is
speaking your mind, fear you can
00:51:16.84\00:51:21.34
who can kill both body and mind.
00:51:21.38\00:51:24.31
That's what I get.
00:51:24.35\00:51:25.75
But I just want to confirm that
what I get from that is actually
00:51:25.78\00:51:28.82
so forth because I know a
person will read this and make
00:51:28.85\00:51:32.15
a whole entire
doctrine from this.
00:51:32.19\00:51:34.36
Doug: Yeah, they got the soul
as like a separate ghost that
00:51:34.39\00:51:37.06
floats around outside of your
body, but the Bible is pretty
00:51:37.09\00:51:40.00
clear that--and you'll look at
other verses, that the soul is
00:51:40.03\00:51:44.77
the combination of the breath
of life and the body together,
00:51:44.80\00:51:49.47
and that we don't
come back from the grave.
00:51:49.50\00:51:54.18
We're not conscious, and
we don't go off to heaven
00:51:54.21\00:51:56.04
until the
resurrection and the judgment.
00:51:56.08\00:51:58.85
Jean: You know, Paul said,
talking about the resurrection,
00:51:58.88\00:52:01.05
"I shall know
even as I am known."
00:52:01.08\00:52:03.02
So that ability to still
recognize who we are to know
00:52:03.05\00:52:06.55
who we are, to have our
own thoughts, our own feelings,
00:52:06.59\00:52:09.29
the essence you
might say of life.
00:52:09.32\00:52:11.79
So it's that part sometimes
referred to as the soul
00:52:11.83\00:52:14.56
and then the body.
00:52:14.56\00:52:16.30
Whereas Jesus says he can
destroy both body and soul in
00:52:16.33\00:52:19.67
hell, that almost contradict--or
that does contradict the idea
00:52:19.70\00:52:23.47
that the wicked will
have an eternal burning soul
00:52:23.51\00:52:26.47
in the lake of fire.
00:52:26.51\00:52:27.98
Jesus says he shall destroy it.
00:52:28.01\00:52:29.64
So there isn't some part
of our being that lives on
00:52:29.68\00:52:32.95
independently from the body.
00:52:32.98\00:52:34.48
Doug: Right. Jean: All right.
00:52:34.52\00:52:36.32
Thank you, Dave.
00:52:36.35\00:52:37.95
We've got Caleb
listening in New York.
00:52:37.99\00:52:39.42
Caleb, welcome to the program.
00:52:39.45\00:52:40.96
Caleb: Hello, Pastor
Doug Batchelor, Pastor Ross.
00:52:40.99\00:52:43.22
Doug: Evening.
00:52:43.26\00:52:44.79
Caleb: How are you guys doing?
00:52:44.83\00:52:45.99
Doug: Doing great.
00:52:46.03\00:52:47.40
Caleb: So I have a question
about kings when I know I should
00:52:47.40\00:52:49.90
be studying prophecy right now,
but prophecy I'm going to let
00:52:49.93\00:52:53.23
that--you guys teach
prophecy because you guys
00:52:53.27\00:52:56.47
are amazing at it.
00:52:56.50\00:52:58.27
But my question is
from 1 Kings 2nd verse--
00:52:58.31\00:53:02.74
1 Kings 2, verse 13 to 25.
00:53:02.78\00:53:08.35
I think it's--why
did King Solomon kill
00:53:08.38\00:53:14.52
his brother Adonijah?
00:53:14.56\00:53:17.36
'Cause I started reading
this and I'm confused like--
00:53:17.39\00:53:20.13
'cause he asked for a wife.
00:53:20.16\00:53:22.10
Doug: Yeah, Adonijah
wanted to have Abishag.
00:53:22.13\00:53:26.84
Abishag had been a concubine,
you might say, of David's.
00:53:26.87\00:53:29.74
Adonijah tried to make himself
king, and after David died
00:53:29.77\00:53:35.28
Adonijah--you know, he kept his
head down for a little while,
00:53:35.31\00:53:38.01
but it really bothered
him that his younger brother--
00:53:38.05\00:53:40.22
Solomon was the youngest.
00:53:40.25\00:53:42.32
It bothered him that his
younger brother, he felt like,
00:53:42.35\00:53:44.52
took the throne.
00:53:44.55\00:53:46.15
And so he began to conspire
again, and one of the first
00:53:46.19\00:53:49.19
things he was going to
do is he thought, "If I have
00:53:49.22\00:53:51.36
David's wife, that will
show that I have his throne."
00:53:51.39\00:53:55.56
When Absalom wanted to
overthrow David as king,
00:53:55.60\00:53:58.93
he took his concubines.
00:53:58.97\00:54:01.14
And so Solomon being very
wise, he saw what his brother
00:54:01.17\00:54:04.57
was up to and that it was
going to lead to a rebellion and
00:54:04.61\00:54:08.11
went--Adonijah, he
actually got Bathsheba
00:54:08.14\00:54:10.51
to make the request for him.
00:54:10.55\00:54:12.18
Solomon's mother Bathsheba.
00:54:12.21\00:54:14.22
And he said, "You know,
can I have that beautiful girl
00:54:14.25\00:54:16.75
Abishag as a wife?
00:54:16.79\00:54:18.32
After all, you know,
David never knew her.
00:54:18.35\00:54:19.92
She was just sort of a hot water
bottle to keep him warm when he
00:54:19.95\00:54:22.82
was getting old."
00:54:22.86\00:54:24.69
And Solomon saw through
what he was up to and he said,
00:54:24.73\00:54:28.46
"All right, you
stepped over the line now.
00:54:28.50\00:54:30.53
I'm not going to have--I'm not
going to be living in the shadow
00:54:30.57\00:54:33.34
of fear that you're
going to try to assassinate me
00:54:33.37\00:54:36.64
or take over the kingdom."
00:54:36.67\00:54:38.37
He had already tried it once.
00:54:38.41\00:54:40.14
So then Solomon killed
Adonijah and he also killed Joab
00:54:40.18\00:54:43.14
who had conspired with
Adonijah to overthrow Solomon.
00:54:43.18\00:54:47.92
So he was basically trying to
just bring peace to the kingdom,
00:54:47.95\00:54:52.32
and it did.
00:54:52.35\00:54:53.86
It brought--he had to settle
his leadership and bring peace.
00:54:53.89\00:54:55.69
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Pastor Doug, Daniel is asking,
what is your take on reverence
00:55:41.60\00:55:45.24
in the sanctuary?
00:55:45.27\00:55:46.98
Doug: We should do it.
00:55:47.01\00:55:48.84
I could probably say more than
that, but, you know, God is a
00:55:48.88\00:55:52.25
holy God and in particular--now,
when we say sanctuary, you know,
00:55:52.28\00:55:56.48
a lot of churches today, they
are using a multi-use facility.
00:55:56.52\00:56:00.49
They may be meeting in something
that serves as a school during
00:56:00.52\00:56:04.53
the week or an auditorium
and--but when we set a site
00:56:04.56\00:56:08.60
for religious purposes and we've
invited God's presence, I think
00:56:08.63\00:56:12.93
there should be reverence there.
00:56:12.97\00:56:14.47
The Bible says the Lord is in
His holy temple at all the earth
00:56:14.50\00:56:17.81
keeps silent, and we should bow
in reverence before His name.
00:56:17.84\00:56:22.11
So if the angels are by the
throne of God saying, "Holy,
00:56:22.14\00:56:25.78
holy, holy," then God's people
when we come into the presence
00:56:25.81\00:56:29.55
of God should show respect.
00:56:29.58\00:56:31.92
Jean: Okay.
00:56:31.95\00:56:33.76
Warren is asking, "How can Satan
and his angels still be alive
00:56:33.79\00:56:36.83
today if they cannot
eat from the tree of life?"
00:56:36.86\00:56:39.53
Doug: Well, if the devil had
a digestive system like a human
00:56:39.56\00:56:42.53
or like a physical
creature, that would be--that
00:56:42.56\00:56:46.67
would make sense.
00:56:46.70\00:56:48.64
But the Bible tells us that
angels are spirits, and I don't
00:56:48.67\00:56:52.77
know that the spirits are
sustained by eating, you know,
00:56:52.81\00:56:56.41
bananas or fruit or--nothing in
the Bible says that the devils
00:56:56.44\00:57:00.35
need to eat or drink.
00:57:00.38\00:57:03.15
There's some kind of--they're
sustained in some other way.
00:57:03.18\00:57:06.35
We don't understand it's
something of a mystery in that
00:57:06.39\00:57:08.72
world, but--yeah.
00:57:08.76\00:57:10.16
So I don't think
that he's needed to eat
00:57:10.19\00:57:11.89
from the tree of life.
00:57:11.93\00:57:13.09
Jean: All right.
00:57:13.13\00:57:14.50
Then we have Kathy that's
asking, "Where in the Bible does
00:57:14.56\00:57:15.96
it say that children who die
before the age of accountability
00:57:16.00\00:57:18.13
will be saved if
their parents are saved?"
00:57:18.17\00:57:21.20
Doug: Well, that is--that's a
difficult subject because, you
00:57:21.24\00:57:25.14
know, on one hand you're asking
every child that's ever lived
00:57:25.17\00:57:29.51
that dies before the age of
accountability are they all in
00:57:29.54\00:57:32.45
heaven, and there's some
question where that but then
00:57:32.48\00:57:37.85
is--certainly I don't believe
children that die before the age
00:57:37.89\00:57:40.06
of accountability are
going to be suffering in hell.
00:57:40.09\00:57:43.09
But then Paul says something--I
think it's 1 Corinthians chapter
00:57:43.12\00:57:46.43
7 where he basically says that
the children of the believing
00:57:46.46\00:57:51.33
parent are sanctified
by their parents' faith.
00:57:51.37\00:57:56.30
And so the believing parents has
had some sanctifying influence.
00:57:56.34\00:57:59.87
And many times the Bible when
a person was saved it says they
00:57:59.91\00:58:02.74
and their house, meaning maybe
their family, their children.
00:58:02.78\00:58:05.41
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