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Doug Batchelor:
Hello friends, would
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you like to
hear an amazing fact?
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In February 2014, a Northern
California couple out walking
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their dog on their country
property east of Sacramento,
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they stumbled across a
modern-day pot of gold.
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Actually they found
several pots of gold buried
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in the shadow
of an old oak tree.
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The couple, who had chosen
to remain anonymous, found eight
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tin cans containing 1,427 gold
coins dating between 1847 and
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1894, virtually all of
them in mint condition.
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Although the face value of
the gold pieces only adds up to
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about $27,000, some of the coins
are so rare and well preserved,
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coin experts expect they could
fetch easily up to $1 million.
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It's believed whoever owned the
property 150 years ago buried
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the coins as a kind of primitive
safety deposit box, and probably
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died taking the
secret with them.
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This once in a lifetime
horde that could easily fetch
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$10 million is
believed to be the most valuable
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buried treasure ever
found in the United States.
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You know, Pastor Ross,
the Bible also tells about a
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man who found
buried treasure in a field.
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Jean Ross: That's right,
Pastor Doug, after hearing that
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fact, you want to go get
a shovel and start digging
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around in your
yard, you never know.
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We're not far from
where this story actually
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took place here in
northern California.
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We wonder what
else is out there?
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Doug: That's right,
and matter of fact, today
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our family just
went kayaking down the
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American River with
our granddaughter, Lilly.
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Hello, Lilly, and our son.
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And we went right
through the country where
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they found that
gold and the guide said,
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you know, they're
panning out there right now.
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We saw people
panning for gold because they
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keep finding gold
in the American River.
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And the story I referenced is
in Matthew 13 verse 44, and it
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says, "Again the kingdom
of heaven is like a treasure
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hidden in a field
which a man found and hid;
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And for joy of it,
he goes and he sells
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all that he has
and buys the field."
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So, Jesus pictures the story.
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You know, back then, poor people
used to lease land for farming.
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And while he's out plowing this
land, it's not his land, but
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he's doing something,
and he finds this treasure.
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People didn't have banks, they
buried their treasure back then.
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And then you
realize, he's an honest man.
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It says he hid it
again, he covers it up,
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and he goes, and he
negotiates to buy the field,
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but it's going to
cost him everything.
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But he knows what it's
worth, so he sells everything.
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And Jesus uses
that as an analogy or
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parable to explain
that the kingdom of
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heaven and eternal
life is worth everything.
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What could be worth more?
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Jean: You know, we have a
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Well Pastor Doug,
before we go to the phone
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lines, let's start
with a word of prayer.
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Dear Father, we
thank you for your Word.
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We thank you for the opportunity
to study the Bible, and, Lord,
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we just pray for your guidance
and the Holy Spirit to be with
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us here in the studio
and be with the many who
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are listening,
wherever they might be, Lord.
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Guide us into a
clearer understanding of
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what the Bible says,
in Jesus's name, amen.
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Doug: Amen.
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Jean: Well, our
first caller this evening,
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we've got Gary
listening in Illinois.
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Gary, welcome to the program.
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Gary: Thank you.
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In Genesis 11, verses 6 and
7, it says that God confused the
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language of the people building
the Tower of Babel because all
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the people spoke
the same language and
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there would be
nothing impossible for them.
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So, is there
anything in the Bible that
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talks about the
development of AI?
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You know, the
conversations I heard on YouTube
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says that AI is
sentient, that it has
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consciousness,
that thinks on its own.
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Well, this is
going to be a have a big
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impact on society
in a big way, and so
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I'm just wondering if there's
anything in the Bible about it.
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Also that the AI said it
didn't believe in a deity.
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Doug: That's interesting, you
know, just before we came on the
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air and I had not seen your
question yet, Pastor Ross and I
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were talking about
AI, meaning artificial
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intelligence, I think
most people know that.
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And that is a
fascinating question.
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You know, Jesus does warn
us in the last days that the
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deceptions will be so effective
and overwhelming that if it
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were possible, even the
very elect would be deceived.
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Now, while I don't agree with
some of the experts that are
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saying that artificial
intelligence has a conscience
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right now, all that
artificial intelligence
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does is it
responds to programming.
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And it is true that there
are programs that are then being
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trained to analyze,
is what they're doing.
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But as far as having, you know,
I believe the Holy Spirit speaks
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to our minds and
gives us a conscience and
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convicts, I don't
think AI has that.
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It's a computer program.
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But are there dangers?
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Yes, look at what it
does today and just imagine
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what it's going to
look like in five years.
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We had a men's meeting this
morning, we talked about AI and
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I don't have time to share
everything, but the presenter
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did a good job of even tying
in some scriptures about--like
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when the serpent suddenly
spoke, he had this extra
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intelligence that
Eve was intrigued by.
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And, you know, what they're
doing now with taking a segment
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of a person's voice
and some of their pictures,
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and they're
creating video of this person
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talking, and they
may have been dead.
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I mean, all you need is some
of their audio files and video
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files, and they now can kind
of recreate them, which is like
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consulting evil
spirits or dead spirits.
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So, I think there's
some very interesting
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moral dilemmas,
not that all AI is bad.
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Virtually every company is using
it in some--you know, if you
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have a smartphone, you're using
AI, you may not even know it.
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But I think it's going to play a
role in how the beast's power is
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going to control buying
and selling in the last days.
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Jean: All right, well,
thank you for your call, Gary.
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And next call is
Jerry, Jerry in Texas.
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Jerry, welcome to the program.
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Jerry: Okay guys, thank you.
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You're opening up with
a bag of worms tonight.
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You have AI there and
I'm going to give a follow
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up to the question
I'm going to ask you.
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Jean: Okay.
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Jerry: It could--could
it be construed as--playing
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with AI or interacting
with AI, could that be
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construed as playing
with the ouija board?
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And I base this on eight
days ago, we had a Amazing Facts
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Sabbath School study hour
that we have weekly on "Amazing
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Facts," and the gentleman
referred to a young boy that was
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12 to 14 years old, and he was
interacting with a bot, and he
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asked the bot,
"Who is your creator?"
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And the bot
responded saying, "My father
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is a fallen angel from heaven."
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Doug: Well, that's interesting.
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When you start dabbling
with using AI and trying to get
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spiritual advice from a
computer, I think the devil can
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influence that, and I
wouldn't recommend that.
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Now again, I want to explain
that when I'm typing a document
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and it is auto correcting, that
is a very simple form of AI.
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So, AI in itself is a
technology, and like television
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or printing press
or, you know, so many
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technologies can be
used for good or evil.
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And I think there's no question
that AI, the devil can use it
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for evil, but that
doesn't mean all AI is bad.
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Jean: I think part of that
concern in talking about AI is
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people put so much trust in,
you know, what their phone says.
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We were just talking
about this on the way
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home after the
meeting this morning.
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And if somebody asks, "Well,
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what's the
population of Sacramento?"
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And somebody pull out their--
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everyone says, "Well, I think
it's this, I think it's that,"
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and then they ask
Google and Google give an
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answer, that is
the final answer.
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Once Google says or whatever
your phone tells you the
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answer is, it's as if, all
right, that's the final word.
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There's a lot of trust built
into AI and you wonder what that
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confidence that people have in
artificial intelligence, is that
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something that the devil can
manipulate in the end of time?
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Doug: And
computers do make mistakes.
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Jean: That's right.
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Doug: I've taken--I followed
a GPS down the road that
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ended up being filled
with trees and there was
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no road, but
it--so--my GPS said forward.
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So, they can
mislead you sometimes.
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Jean: All right,
thank you, Jerry.
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We've got Anthony
listening in New York.
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Anthony, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Anthony: Good evening, pastors.
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Doug: Evening.
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Anthony: Really quick, when I
asked the question a few months
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back about ambition and you know
in the Christian walk and things
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of that nature, and based on the
answer to your--to my question
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from you, I
applied for a promotion.
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I actually got
it, and it's a pretty
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high position in the company.
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So, I just want to
say thank you for that--
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for that word from the Lord.
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And just praying that I'll be
faithful like Daniel or Joseph.
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And so, my question is--has
to do with the Shekinah glory.
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So, we know from Exodus
that in the sanctuary, in the
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wilderness, that I believe
the pillar of cloud, when it
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stopped, we believe
that the pillar of cloud is
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Jesus, was a
form of preincarnate
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Jesus Christ and the
pillar of fire as well.
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And that pillar
of cloud, once the
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sanctuary was
built, filled the temple.
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So--with the glory of the Lord.
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And so, I guess my understanding
is that the Shekinah glory, and
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you can correct me if I'm wrong,
the Shekinah glory is--was
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Jesus Christ, the presence of
Jesus Christ among the people.
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And so, when Christ
came to the earth, when he
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was born, was the
Shekinah glory still in the
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temple before it
was destroyed in AD 70?
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And you know, and I
know the temple, the veil
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in the temple was
rent when Christ died,
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signifying the end of
the sanctuary service.
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So, because Christ
was here physically on
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earth, was the
Shekinah still in the temple?
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Or was there no Shekinah and the
Jews were, you know, doing the
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sacrificial service
without the Shekinah?
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Doug: Understood.
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Yeah, the Shekinah
glory never really reappeared
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in the temple
following the time of Josiah.
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When Nebuchadnezzar conquered
Jerusalem and the Ark was
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hidden, the Ark of the
Covenant--the Shekinah glory,
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always appeared
above the Ark of the
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Covenant, it
never appeared again.
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There's no record,
I should say, of it
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appearing again,
because the Ark was gone.
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It's like back when
the Ark was captured by
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the Philistines in
the days of Eli, they
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said, "Ichabod,
the glory is departed."
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So, I think the glory,
that visible manifestation
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of God's
presence was gone from the
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temple from the
time of Nebuchadnezzar.
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When they rededicated the
temple in the days of Ezra and
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Nehemiah, they never saw the
Shekinah glory come down like
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they did in the days of
David or in Solomon's time.
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So, when Christ was on earth
and the veil ripped, it was
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signifying that the old
ceremonial system had ended.
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But I don't
think anything happened
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with the Shekinah glory.
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Did you have any--
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Jean: You know, I agree.
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I think after, you know, the
temple was rebuilt, it spoke of
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the latter house,
or the second house,
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having greater glory
than the first house.
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Doug: Because Christ
went in to teach there.
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Jean: That's right.
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So, it wasn't the Shekinah
glory, which was glorious in the
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time of Solomon, the glory, it
was even greater in the person
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of Christ, so there
was no need for another
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Shekinah glory, if the
glory of Christ was greater
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than what was
revealed there in the Shekinah.
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And then, of course, when the
veil rent from top to bottom, it
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signified that the
temple and Jesus said,
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"Your house is left
to you desolate," so.
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Doug: He said, "Destroy this
temple, I will build one made
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without hands,"
meaning his body, the church.
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Jean: Very good, I'm
thinking, do we have a study?
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We do have a
study out on the temple.
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It's called "God Built--"
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Doug: "God Drew The Plans."
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Jean: "God Drew The
Plans," that's what it is.
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One of our
Amazing Fact study guides.
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We'll be happy to send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:13:28.37\00:13:29.94
The number is 800-835-6747.
00:13:29.97\00:13:33.68
As for the study guide, it's
called "God Drew The Plans."
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We'll be happy to send it to
you or just dial #250 on your
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smartphone and say,
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and ask for that by name.
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We've got Thomas
listening, Canada,
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Thomas, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Doug: Hey, Thomas,
you're on the air, yeah.
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Thomas: Yes, thank you.
Thanks for taking the call.
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Doug: And your question?
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Thomas: The question is yes,
they--I heard heard expressed by
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pastors that--and this is
not a common understanding,
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but that there is
a book of creation.
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and then there's a--
the book of God's Word.
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And as there's two witnesses
that God had to carry out a
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death, because of breaking the
law, he required a minimum of
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two witnesses, so God
follows that same principle.
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That's why Creation and
the Word, they are in harmony.
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So, my specific question
is, which I illustrated to the
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interviewer when she started is,
that carbon has a signature of
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666, and oxygen
has a signature of 888.
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And Jesus's name adds up to 888
in in Greek, the language of the
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New Testament was written,
the common language of the day.
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So, my question is, do we see an
imprint of God putting salvation
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in creation by
those two numbers?
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Doug: Okay, I've never
had that question before.
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I have heard before
that carbon was somehow
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reflected by the number 666.
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I don't know, maybe
the--something in the--
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Jean: Molecular
structure or something?
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Doug: Yeah, in
the elements of it.
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I don't know that I would try
to use that kind of math, taking
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the name of Jesus and the
numerical value of his name in
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Hebrew, and saying,
you know, part of it equals
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the earth and the
Word and creation.
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You know, when I get
to heaven, I think we're
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going to learn a
lot about numerology.
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God does use a lot of
interesting numbers in the Bible
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and we'll probably
understand it better.
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There are math geniuses that
see all kinds of connections.
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Jean: Of course, if
you look in nature, you can
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see the great
controversy played out.
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You see good and
evil revealed in nature.
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You see beauty in nature, but
you also see pain and suffering.
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So, just by looking at nature,
you realize, well, first of all,
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there must be a Creator, but
you also realize that there's an
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adversary that
brings suffering and death.
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And then, of course, the
Bible expounds upon that.
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Doug: Yep.
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Something--you can
see something went wrong.
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It's a beautiful
world, and yet there's
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sin and suffering and death.
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So, hey, thank you, Thomas.
Don't know if that helps at all.
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We do have--we do
have a free download.
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It's at a website
called bibleprophecy.com,
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is that right?
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Jean: I think so.
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Doug: Where it's got
the study on numbers?
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Jean: Oh, yeah.
Doug: Bible prophecy truth.
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Jean: Prophecy code, if
their webs are still up.
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Doug: No, it's--
well maybe there are two.
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Jean: Yeah, it was
there. Doug: But yeah, okay.
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Anyway, yeah, we--we've got,
if you type in Amazing Facts,
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Bible numbers
and their meanings,
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I think we have a
a resource on that.
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Jean: We have that.
George listening in Texas.
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George, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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George: Hi, pastors.
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Doug: Hi, how can we help you?
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George: Okay, I know that
one of the commandments is,
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"Thou shalt not kill,"
or, "Thou shalt not murder."
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Does that mean I'm
automatically supposed
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to vote for the
party of the pro-life?
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And if I vote
for the other party
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that's not
pro-life, am I sinning?
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Doug: Well, that's
an interesting question.
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Personally, I think
that you need to evaluate
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what the values are
of different candidates.
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You probably
could find good and evil
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in both parties, unfortunately.
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So, you know, sometimes when the
time comes to vote, you need to
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pray and then hold your nose
and vote as an American citizen.
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But I personally
would have a moral problem,
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and again, I don't want
to make political statements,
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we want to give Bible answers.
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I would have a problem,
personally, voting for a
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candidate that was
supporting abortion.
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And that might
mean that, you know,
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you're voting for a
candidate who's supporting some
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things in other areas
that are not Biblical.
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But to me, it's a
pretty serious violation
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when you're
taking innocent life.
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Jean: You know, one of the
counsels I heard dealing with
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voting, it's always good if you
can to vote on specific issues
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versus just then parties in
general, because like you say,
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there's good and bad
in each of the parties.
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But if you have the opportunity
to vote on a specific issue,
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whether that's pro-life
or abortion, or how--what is
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marriage defined as, we as
Christians, I think have an
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opportunity to stand for what
the Bible says on these issues.
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So, vote on issues if possible.
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Doug: Yep. Very good.
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Jean: Thank you,
George. We got Joel listening.
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Doug: You know,
pardon me, I do have a book
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that's called
"Should a Christian Vote?"
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Yeah.
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And it talks a little bit about
the principles around elections.
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And it talks a little bit about
the principles around elections.
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you know, around voting season.
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Yeah, but we'll send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:18:49.29\00:18:50.73
The number for
that is 800-835-6747.
00:18:50.76\00:18:54.00
Just ask for the book,
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00:18:54.00\00:18:56.33
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Joel in North Carolina.
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Joel, welcome to the program.
00:19:04.51\00:19:07.01
Joel: Good evening, pastors.
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I'm doing a study on the
timeline between the triumphant
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entry and the Mount of Olives,
where Jesus told the disciples
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that, you know, the--Jerusalem
was going to be destroyed.
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My question is, did that--from
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Matthew 21 to Matthew 26, did
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that--that happened over,
like, a three-day period, right?
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Doug: Well, it, yeah,
it's a matter of a few days.
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I'd have to go back
and look at chapter 21.
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I know that most of the Gospels
would dedicate most of their
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time to the final
week of Christ's life.
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So, it wouldn't
surprise me. Matthew 21?
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Yeah, I think that's
where Jesus is excoriating
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the scribes and Pharisees.
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Jean: Yeah, I think
from--if you're looking
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in Matthew 21
starting in verse 1, all the
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way through to the
crucifixion, it's about a week.
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So, various Bible scholars
believe that Jesus came to
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Jerusalem or Bethany, which is
two miles outside of Jerusalem,
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on the Friday, he was there for
the Sabbath, and then on Sunday
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he entered,
triumphant entry into Jerusalem.
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And then of course,
that Friday he was crucified.
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So, a lot happened
within that one week.
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Doug: It tells about, yeah,
several teaching episodes and--
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Jean: The cursing the fig
tree when he went in and out.
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Okay, thank you Joel.
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Who do we have next?
Chastity, is that right?
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Doug: Yes, Chasity.
00:20:39.60\00:20:40.90
Jean: Chasity from Arizona,
Chasity, welcome to the program.
00:20:40.94\00:20:44.74
Chasity: Hi,
thank you very much.
00:20:44.77\00:20:46.14
Doug: Yes.
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Chasity: I just have a question.
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Are the demons that
are mentioned in the
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Bible the fallen
angels, and who are the third
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of the fallen
angels who fell to earth?
00:20:55.68\00:20:58.69
Doug: Yeah, yes and yes.
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The angels, the
evil spirits, are the
00:21:01.99\00:21:05.99
same as the fallen angels.
00:21:06.03\00:21:07.86
So, you know the
devil is sometimes
00:21:07.93\00:21:10.40
referred to as an evil spirit.
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You know, "We don't wrestle
against flesh and blood," it
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says in Ephesians
chapter 6, "but against
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spiritual hosts of
evil in high places."
00:21:18.54\00:21:22.18
And in Revelation 12 it says
Satan was cast out of heaven and
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his angels were
cast out with him.
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And then you read earlier, the
tail of the dragon drew 1/3 of
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the stars, and these--the stars
are--the dragon is a symbol for
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Satan, and the stars
are a symbol for the angels.
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And it says his angels
were cast down with him.
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So, whenever we hear about evil
spirits and sometimes they are
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called demons or
even ghosts, these
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are typically
angels, Satan's angels.
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They're fallen angels that have
been converted, like Lucifer.
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Satan was once Lucifer, he was
the chief of the angels and he
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became a devil, and the
fallen angels became demons.
00:22:00.35\00:22:05.09
Jean: We have a study guide that
talks about the origin of evil.
00:22:05.12\00:22:07.32
It's called "Did
God Create A Devil?"
00:22:07.36\00:22:09.12
And I think it
addresses this very question,
00:22:09.16\00:22:10.83
about the angels
and how they fell.
00:22:10.86\00:22:12.43
If you'd like to receive that,
00:22:12.46\00:22:13.76
the number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:22:13.80\00:22:16.53
Ask for the study guide,
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00:22:16.56\00:22:19.20
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00:22:19.23\00:22:23.44
We'll be happy to send it
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00:22:23.47\00:22:25.67
We got Joe listening in Arizona.
00:22:25.71\00:22:27.78
Joe, welcome to the program.
00:22:27.81\00:22:30.15
Joe: How you guys doing?
00:22:30.18\00:22:31.65
Doug: Great. How are you doing?
00:22:31.68\00:22:34.05
Joe: Hey, my question this
week is, I've watched--Pastor
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Batchelor, I've watched your
presentation on the 144,000, but
00:22:40.62\00:22:46.36
I never really got a definitive
answer of who they are.
00:22:46.39\00:22:50.43
And so, I guess my question
would since the Bible says that
00:22:50.47\00:22:54.64
before the four quarters--or
the End Times, the angels are
00:22:54.67\00:23:00.24
released to wreak
havoc on the earth, that
00:23:00.28\00:23:02.91
the angel goes and
he seals the 144,000?
00:23:02.94\00:23:06.48
Doug: Yes.
00:23:06.51\00:23:07.82
Joe: Is it possible that
the 144,000 could be the actual
00:23:07.85\00:23:10.62
literal number of
people that get sealed with
00:23:10.65\00:23:13.15
the seal of God,
before the tribulation?
00:23:13.19\00:23:15.86
Doug: I don't think
they're the only ones.
00:23:15.89\00:23:19.59
In other words, I think everyone
in the last days that's saved
00:23:19.63\00:23:23.23
has the seal of
God, because everyone
00:23:23.26\00:23:25.27
else has got the
mark of the beast.
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But the 144,000,
I think there's more
00:23:27.20\00:23:29.70
than just the
144,000 that are saved.
00:23:29.74\00:23:33.17
I think the 144,000
represent the leadership.
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Keep in mind, Revelation is
written by an apostle, his name
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is John, and
everything you read about the
00:23:40.92\00:23:43.59
144,000 fits the
definitions of the apostles.
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They follow the
Lamb wherever he goes.
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It says, "These are
they without guile."
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They have a special message.
00:23:53.50\00:23:56.56
It's like on the day of
Pentecost, one of the disciples
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had committed suicide because
he betrayed Jesus, Judas.
00:24:00.34\00:24:03.84
And before the Holy Spirit is
poured out, Peter says we need
00:24:03.87\00:24:07.18
to replace that because
we're down to 11 apostles.
00:24:07.21\00:24:10.18
As soon as they get to the
number 12, the next thing it
00:24:10.21\00:24:13.01
says is the place they
were gathered together is
00:24:13.05\00:24:15.45
shaken and the Holy
Spirit is poured out.
00:24:15.48\00:24:17.39
When they got to that number 12,
there's something about that.
00:24:17.42\00:24:20.29
And I think that in
the same way God used 12
00:24:20.32\00:24:23.73
apostles to go and
preach to the lost tribes of
00:24:23.76\00:24:27.66
Israel during
Jesus's first coming,
00:24:27.73\00:24:30.37
he's going to have 12 times
12,000 before the second coming.
00:24:30.40\00:24:33.70
They're not the only ones
saved, just like on the day of
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Pentecost, you've got 12
apostles in the upper room, but
00:24:35.87\00:24:38.51
there's 120 total, there's other
people, other disciples there.
00:24:38.54\00:24:42.58
It wasn't just the 12 apostles
filled with the Holy Spirit, it
00:24:42.61\00:24:45.55
was everybody in the upper
room, and then through their
00:24:45.58\00:24:47.68
preaching,
there's a great revival.
00:24:47.72\00:24:50.12
And I think that's
going to repeat itself.
00:24:50.15\00:24:52.32
A latter rain
outpouring of the Spirit.
00:24:52.35\00:24:54.79
The 144,000 are a
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00:24:54.82\00:24:57.89
but they're a symbol
for the apostles also.
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00:25:04.47\00:25:06.50
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James, welcome to the program.
00:25:32.19\00:25:34.86
James: All right, good evening.
00:25:34.93\00:25:36.13
I was wondering if I could ask
two really quick questions, If
00:25:36.16\00:25:39.67
I'm real quick,
to make my point?
00:25:39.70\00:25:41.80
Doug: Okay, let's
take them one at a time.
00:25:41.84\00:25:44.44
James: Sure, the first
question I have is, are God's
00:25:44.47\00:25:46.64
people allowed to defend
themselves and their families
00:25:46.68\00:25:49.61
from the forces of
evil, without committing sin?
00:25:49.64\00:25:52.78
Say like if somebody tried to
break into my house and the only
00:25:52.81\00:25:56.38
way that I could
defend my family is,
00:25:56.42\00:25:59.19
like, if I had to
shoot them or something?
00:25:59.22\00:26:02.69
Doug: You know, according
to the Bible, it says pretty
00:26:02.72\00:26:05.53
clearly, even Jesus said that,
you know, "You can't break into
00:26:05.56\00:26:09.06
a strong man's
house unless you bind him
00:26:09.10\00:26:10.97
first," physically,
you have to restrain him.
00:26:11.00\00:26:13.40
Meaning, that if
you don't physically
00:26:13.44\00:26:14.74
restrain him, he's
going to defend his family.
00:26:14.77\00:26:17.57
And so, I think it's a pretty
common universal understanding
00:26:17.61\00:26:21.14
that a man or whoever's in the
house would want to protect the
00:26:21.18\00:26:24.98
home and the
children and the occupants.
00:26:25.01\00:26:27.48
And so, if force is
used to come in, you might
00:26:27.52\00:26:30.65
need to use force if
you can to stop an invasion.
00:26:30.69\00:26:34.36
And most laws in most countries
understand and recognize that.
00:26:34.39\00:26:38.23
So, I don't think there's a
moral--you know, some people
00:26:38.26\00:26:40.20
might say, you know, "I just, I
can't do that even if my family
00:26:40.23\00:26:43.20
is at risk," and I'd
respectfully disagree.
00:26:43.23\00:26:46.10
But there are some people who
feel so strongly about any kind
00:26:46.13\00:26:49.20
of, what they would call violent
defense, that they don't think a
00:26:49.24\00:26:54.88
Christian should do
that, they should just pray.
00:26:54.91\00:26:57.18
Well, I wouldn't
bother my conscience.
00:26:57.21\00:27:00.82
I think it's normal reaction and
I think it's even a duty for the
00:27:00.85\00:27:05.45
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and provide for his family.
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00:30:31.49\00:30:32.79
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Aaron, welcome to
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Aaron: Good evening, pastors.
00:30:38.50\00:30:39.80
Doug: Evening.
00:30:39.83\00:30:41.77
Aaron: I encountered an
internet troll on the comments
00:30:41.80\00:30:44.51
section of a
Christian YouTube video.
00:30:44.54\00:30:47.58
He claims that God created
sin because the Bible says God
00:30:47.61\00:30:51.21
created all things and he
counts sin as a thing because he
00:30:51.25\00:30:55.55
defines a thing as
which is considered a
00:30:55.58\00:30:59.25
separate entity,
object, quality, and concept.
00:30:59.29\00:31:04.89
He uses Romans chapter 11,
verse 36 to back up this claim.
00:31:04.93\00:31:10.17
My question is, can sin be
included in the meaning behind
00:31:10.20\00:31:14.14
Romans chapter
6--chapter 11, verse 36, and
00:31:14.17\00:31:19.07
Colossians chapter
1 verses 16 and 17?
00:31:19.11\00:31:22.14
Doug: Well, let's read these
for friends who are listening.
00:31:22.18\00:31:24.71
In Romans chapter 11:36, "For of
him and through him and to him
00:31:24.75\00:31:30.65
are all things, to
whom be the glory forever."
00:31:30.69\00:31:33.72
Well, what all things
is Paul talking about?
00:31:33.76\00:31:36.26
You go to verse 33, it
says, "Of the depth of the
00:31:36.29\00:31:38.39
riches of the wisdom
of the knowledge of God."
00:31:38.43\00:31:40.76
It's talking about the mercy of
God in verse 31 and God's grace.
00:31:40.80\00:31:44.70
It's not talking about evil.
00:31:44.73\00:31:46.63
And so he's--Paul
is saying that the
00:31:46.67\00:31:49.80
glory for all--the
plan of salvation belongs
00:31:49.84\00:31:52.77
to God, we can't
take credit for it.
00:31:52.81\00:31:54.98
So that verse, I
think, to say that God
00:31:55.01\00:31:57.21
created sin, now
there's a big problem with
00:31:57.25\00:32:00.48
anyone who says
that God created sin.
00:32:00.52\00:32:02.65
It says God tempts no man.
00:32:02.68\00:32:04.55
James says, I
forget the verse, "God
00:32:04.59\00:32:06.35
cannot be tempted with evil.
00:32:06.39\00:32:07.69
Neither does he tempt anybody."
00:32:07.72\00:32:09.49
So, whoever tempted
Adam and Eve in the Garden
00:32:09.52\00:32:11.46
of Eden, God never
induces people to sin.
00:32:11.49\00:32:15.03
God does not create entrapment
to try to get people to sin.
00:32:15.06\00:32:19.23
He hates sin.
00:32:19.27\00:32:20.60
Jean: That's James
chapter 1 verse 13.
00:32:20.64\00:32:22.17
It says God doesn't tempt.
00:32:22.20\00:32:23.51
Doug: "Every good and perfect
gift is from God and comes
00:32:23.54\00:32:26.44
down from the Father
of lights with whom there
00:32:26.47\00:32:28.44
is no variableness
or shadow of turning."
00:32:28.48\00:32:31.15
And so, God is good.
00:32:31.18\00:32:33.52
Sin came from--God created a
good angel, who had a free will.
00:32:33.55\00:32:38.35
And this
intelligent, free, moral
00:32:38.39\00:32:39.95
being, Lucifer,
he became selfish.
00:32:39.99\00:32:44.39
Sin began with him.
00:32:44.43\00:32:46.29
And, God is good,
God is pure, God is just.
00:32:46.33\00:32:50.13
So, the idea that God created
sin, created sinners and then
00:32:50.17\00:32:53.57
said he's going to punish
sinners for being sinners, well,
00:32:53.60\00:32:56.44
that would make God an
accomplice to the problem of
00:32:56.47\00:32:59.04
sin, which
really would go against
00:32:59.07\00:33:02.94
everything the Bible
says about God hating sin.
00:33:02.98\00:33:05.38
Jean: Of course,
we have that study
00:33:05.41\00:33:06.72
guide it says, "Did
God Create a Devil?"
00:33:06.75\00:33:08.32
And it deals with this.
00:33:08.35\00:33:09.65
I'll be happy to send
it to anyone who calls
00:33:09.68\00:33:11.15
and asks, it's
800-835-6747 or dial #250 on
00:33:11.19\00:33:16.39
your smartphone and
we can send it to you.
00:33:16.42\00:33:18.63
Doug: Sorry, just in
fairness, also, I think Aaron
00:33:18.66\00:33:20.56
was also asking about Colossians
1:16 and 17, which is also
00:33:20.60\00:33:25.13
saying, I believe,
that God made all things.
00:33:25.17\00:33:28.17
But it's talking
about God made everything.
00:33:28.20\00:33:30.27
It looks back to Genesis,
where it says it was good,
00:33:30.31\00:33:32.67
good, very good, he
made everything good.
00:33:32.71\00:33:35.24
And because of the choice
of one of the free creatures,
00:33:35.28\00:33:38.41
Adam and Eve and
the devil, they made
00:33:38.45\00:33:41.52
moral choices not to
love and not to obey.
00:33:41.55\00:33:45.05
Jean: All right,
thanks for your call, Aaron.
00:33:45.09\00:33:46.92
We've got Lawrence
listening from Oregon.
00:33:46.96\00:33:49.49
Lawrence,
welcome to the program.
00:33:49.52\00:33:52.19
Lawrence: Yeah.
00:33:52.23\00:33:53.53
I just told a little
bit about circumcision.
00:33:53.56\00:33:56.30
If Jesus told us to follow his
steps and he was circumcised on
00:33:56.33\00:34:00.97
the 8th day, do we practice
circumcision today or not?
00:34:01.00\00:34:07.04
People-- that's my question.
00:34:07.08\00:34:10.48
Doug: Yeah, well, one of the
big discussions they had in the
00:34:10.51\00:34:13.35
New Testament is as the Gentiles
were coming to Christ and
00:34:13.38\00:34:16.92
believing in Jesus, some of the
Jewish believers in Christ said,
00:34:16.95\00:34:20.22
"Oh well, they
need to be circumcised."
00:34:20.26\00:34:22.29
And there was a long discussion
about this in the early church,
00:34:22.32\00:34:25.53
and they came to the conclusion
that it is not necessary.
00:34:25.56\00:34:29.30
Circumcision was something that
pointed to the covenant that the
00:34:29.33\00:34:34.90
promised seed would come
through the line of Abraham.
00:34:34.94\00:34:38.07
It also was a symbol for the
cutting away of the flesh, not
00:34:38.11\00:34:41.84
being carnally minded
but being spiritual minded.
00:34:41.88\00:34:44.85
So, now many countries and
peoples, I think Muslims and
00:34:44.88\00:34:49.18
Jews and many Gentiles today
still practice circumcision and
00:34:49.22\00:34:53.36
they perform it in hospitals
routinely for Jews and Gentiles
00:34:53.39\00:34:57.06
because they--there
is some medical benefit.
00:34:57.09\00:35:00.30
And I'm talking
about male circumcision.
00:35:00.33\00:35:02.13
Female
circumcision is believed to be
00:35:02.16\00:35:04.70
all negative, it's
kind of a mutilation.
00:35:04.73\00:35:08.30
But--and you can probably
research the details of that on
00:35:08.34\00:35:11.71
your own, but
there's no command.
00:35:11.74\00:35:14.68
Paul says
circumcision is nothing,
00:35:14.71\00:35:16.01
and you can read
this in Galatians.
00:35:16.04\00:35:17.65
Uncircumcision
is nothing, keeping
00:35:17.68\00:35:19.18
the
commandments is what matters.
00:35:19.21\00:35:20.88
Jean: Okay, thank you.
00:35:20.92\00:35:22.22
We've got Junith
listening in Nevada.
00:35:22.25\00:35:23.95
Junith, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:35:23.99\00:35:27.29
Junith: Hello, good evening.
00:35:27.32\00:35:29.16
My question is
related to Genesis
00:35:29.19\00:35:33.19
chapter 3 verses 1 to 23.
00:35:33.23\00:35:37.20
Is about the the
character of the snake.
00:35:37.23\00:35:40.40
We know that God
described the snake as the
00:35:40.44\00:35:46.14
most guile among the
animals in the garden.
00:35:46.17\00:35:50.08
Some people would even put
in the sermon that the devil is
00:35:50.11\00:35:54.85
smart, and I really would like
to to address this, that if the
00:35:54.88\00:35:59.49
devil is smart, the devil should
not have become the devil.
00:35:59.52\00:36:04.29
He would still be
one of the cherubims
00:36:04.33\00:36:09.26
guarding the
Ark of the Covenant.
00:36:09.30\00:36:11.50
And the meaning
of guile here is,
00:36:11.53\00:36:14.94
actually it's
another form of intelligence.
00:36:14.97\00:36:17.84
It's a crafty intelligence.
00:36:17.87\00:36:19.87
And to be smart is
quick-witted intelligence.
00:36:19.91\00:36:23.41
Would you agree with me
that the snake is not smart?
00:36:23.45\00:36:27.52
Doug: Yeah, well, the Bible
says, you know, thank you, June.
00:36:27.55\00:36:30.45
The Bible says that, "The fool
has said in his heart there is
00:36:30.49\00:36:33.62
no God and the fear of the Lord
is the beginning of wisdom."
00:36:33.66\00:36:37.53
And Satan's not fearing God
00:36:37.56\00:36:39.93
is a sign of the
ultimate ignorance.
00:36:39.96\00:36:44.50
And I know that that might sound
like a contradiction, but keep
00:36:44.53\00:36:47.80
in mind there are some people
in the world that have extremely
00:36:47.84\00:36:51.84
high IQ's that do not believe
in God, and they are foolish in
00:36:51.87\00:36:58.48
deliberately choosing
not to believe in God.
00:36:58.51\00:37:00.85
I think Paul addresses this
in Romans 1, he says, "Thinking
00:37:00.88\00:37:03.25
themselves wise,
they become fools."
00:37:03.28\00:37:05.72
And so, they're still very
intelligent people that would,
00:37:05.75\00:37:08.89
you know, if they took an IQ
test, they'd score very high.
00:37:08.92\00:37:12.09
If you ask them if they believe
in God, they say no, and the
00:37:12.13\00:37:14.36
reason is they can't afford
to believe in God, because that
00:37:14.40\00:37:16.46
means they would
have to answer to God.
00:37:16.50\00:37:17.90
They want to be their own God.
00:37:17.93\00:37:19.23
That was the devil's problem.
00:37:19.27\00:37:21.00
And so, when it says the serpent
was more cunning, it's talking
00:37:21.04\00:37:24.44
about the craftiness, the
hypnotic ability of like a
00:37:24.47\00:37:27.51
snake, to
deceive, to sneak up on.
00:37:27.54\00:37:31.08
So, it doesn't
mean that the devil
00:37:31.11\00:37:33.21
is wise in the spiritual sense.
00:37:33.25\00:37:36.62
Real wisdom is surrendering
to God and believing in God.
00:37:36.65\00:37:39.85
Jean: All right, thank you.
00:37:39.89\00:37:41.19
Next caller that we have is
Loretta listening from New York.
00:37:41.22\00:37:45.39
Loretta, welcome to the program.
00:37:45.43\00:37:48.16
Loretta: Hey, Doug and John.
00:37:48.20\00:37:50.47
My question is,
my 13 year old came
00:37:50.50\00:37:53.67
to me with these
two verses, and he was
00:37:53.70\00:37:56.30
wondering if there
is a contradiction.
00:37:56.34\00:37:57.91
Clearly, I
couldn't explain it to him.
00:37:57.94\00:37:59.91
It's 2 Chronicles
22:2 and 2 Kings 8:26.
00:37:59.94\00:38:05.28
Doug: Okay, let's go
there, 2 Chronicles 22:2.
00:38:05.31\00:38:08.32
Yeah.
00:38:08.35\00:38:10.35
"And the inhabitants of
Jerusalem made Ahaziah, his
00:38:10.39\00:38:12.59
youngest son, King in this place
for the raiders who came with
00:38:12.62\00:38:16.42
the Arabians into camp
had killed the older sons.
00:38:16.46\00:38:20.26
So Ahaziah, the son of
Joram, King of Judah, reigned."
00:38:20.30\00:38:24.83
And, so, verse 2,
"Ahaziah was 42 years old."
00:38:24.87\00:38:28.07
Now, the--in 2 Kings it
says Ahaziah was 22 years old.
00:38:28.10\00:38:35.48
Yeah, and the reason that is
given by the Bible scholars is
00:38:35.51\00:38:40.05
that it probably was
that he was 22 years old.
00:38:40.08\00:38:44.35
The letters in Hebrew--the
Bible is perfect, but sometimes
00:38:44.39\00:38:47.89
the manuscripts they translate
from, the scribes had written
00:38:47.92\00:38:51.46
letters not clearly,
or the ink had smudged
00:38:51.49\00:38:54.73
by the time the
translators got the documents.
00:38:54.76\00:38:58.07
And when they looked at the
Hebrew letters for 22, it's like
00:38:58.10\00:39:02.24
in English, the seven
and the two can sometimes
00:39:02.27\00:39:04.94
look similar if you
don't write them clearly.
00:39:04.97\00:39:06.91
You know what I'm saying?
00:39:06.94\00:39:08.61
And, matter of fact,
when I was--when I was
00:39:08.64\00:39:13.08
a teenager, I took
my learner's permit.
00:39:13.11\00:39:15.08
I was born in 1957.
00:39:15.12\00:39:16.79
Now you all know how old I am.
00:39:16.82\00:39:18.89
But I wanted to be able to buy
alcohol, so I turned the seven
00:39:18.92\00:39:21.66
into a two very easily and I
used that counterfeit or forged
00:39:21.69\00:39:26.39
learner's permit to
get a driver's license.
00:39:26.43\00:39:28.80
For years, my drivers license
that I was older than I was,
00:39:28.83\00:39:31.90
even after I became a
Christian, because every
00:39:31.93\00:39:33.34
time I renewed it,
they took the old date.
00:39:33.37\00:39:35.34
And one day I
went back and I said,
00:39:35.37\00:39:37.04
"You know, this is
wrong, it's not my age."
00:39:37.07\00:39:38.51
And they just
took my word for it
00:39:38.54\00:39:39.84
and changed it
back, I was amazed.
00:39:39.87\00:39:41.81
I should have said I was 15.
00:39:41.84\00:39:43.68
Anyway, but this is
just a place where you are
00:39:43.71\00:39:46.98
going to see a
discrepancy because--
00:39:47.02\00:39:49.28
is this what you
understand, Pastor Ross?
00:39:49.32\00:39:51.82
The numbers in Hebrew, the
characters look very similar and
00:39:51.85\00:39:54.82
it was translated incorrectly,
probably in 2 Chronicles 22.
00:39:54.86\00:40:00.66
So, thank you.
00:40:00.70\00:40:02.20
Hope that and the math adds up
better one way than the other,
00:40:02.23\00:40:05.43
as far as the ages of the kings
and how old the kids would be.
00:40:05.47\00:40:09.07
Jean: All right,
next caller that we have
00:40:09.10\00:40:10.41
is Jasmine listening in Georgia.
00:40:10.44\00:40:12.97
Jasmine, welcome to the program.
00:40:13.01\00:40:15.98
Jasmine: Yes, good
night. Doug: Evening.
00:40:16.01\00:40:18.38
Jasmine: I just wanted to
say, God bless your ministry and
00:40:18.41\00:40:22.78
my son and I hear you guys
every day, you know, repetition.
00:40:22.82\00:40:27.66
But our question
that we have is when Eve
00:40:27.69\00:40:32.59
was talking to the
serpent, why was she not
00:40:32.63\00:40:35.60
surprised that the
serpent was talking to her?
00:40:35.63\00:40:39.47
Doug: Well, I
think she was surprised.
00:40:39.50\00:40:42.34
I think the devil deliberately
possessed this beautiful, subtle
00:40:42.37\00:40:48.34
creature that was probably
hypnotic in the way it moved,
00:40:48.38\00:40:52.05
even snakes
today can be hypnotic.
00:40:52.08\00:40:53.72
But snakes after sin were cursed
to crawl on the ground, which
00:40:53.75\00:40:56.75
means before sin, they had some
other means of mobilization.
00:40:56.79\00:41:01.76
And commentators think that
they may have been able to fly.
00:41:01.79\00:41:06.06
Virtually every culture in
the world talks about flying
00:41:06.09\00:41:08.30
reptiles, and there's
even bones of pterodactyls
00:41:08.33\00:41:12.73
and pterodactyls
and reptiles that flew.
00:41:12.77\00:41:15.97
So, you know, we
don't know if there's that
00:41:16.00\00:41:17.91
connection, but I
think she was surprised.
00:41:17.94\00:41:20.84
And that's one of the things
that--sure, she wasn't afraid.
00:41:20.88\00:41:23.28
There was nothing in the garden
to fear, but I don't think Eve
00:41:23.31\00:41:26.65
knew that any of the creatures
had the ability of speech, and
00:41:26.68\00:41:29.62
the serpent is--he's
intimating, "Well if you eat
00:41:29.65\00:41:32.35
this fruit, look
what it did for me?
00:41:32.39\00:41:33.96
I was a snake, that
all I could do is stick
00:41:33.99\00:41:35.72
out my tongue
and now I can talk."
00:41:35.76\00:41:37.59
And she was amazed
by that and thought,
00:41:37.63\00:41:39.03
maybe God is
keeping something from us.
00:41:39.06\00:41:41.70
So, I think--I don't
know what your thoughts are?
00:41:41.73\00:41:43.50
Jean: Absolutely.
00:41:43.53\00:41:44.93
Doug: I think you--I
think she was surprised.
00:41:44.97\00:41:46.40
Jean: And also probably
surprised by the fact that it
00:41:46.43\00:41:48.40
almost seemed as
though the serpent answered
00:41:48.44\00:41:50.51
a question that she
was wondering about.
00:41:50.54\00:41:52.34
She was looking at the
fruit and the devil was waiting.
00:41:52.37\00:41:54.71
He saw his perfect opportunity.
00:41:54.74\00:41:56.48
Doug: He read her expressions
of curiosity and yeah.
00:41:56.51\00:42:00.25
Jean: Subtle, yeah.
00:42:00.28\00:42:01.65
Doug: And then you know, I
heard one Hebrew scholar said,
00:42:01.68\00:42:04.75
when he greeted Eve,
it was like, hi in there.
00:42:04.79\00:42:10.36
I mean, it was all--yeah, it
was almost like a flattering,
00:42:10.39\00:42:13.43
seductive greeting
that appealed to her.
00:42:13.46\00:42:16.43
So yeah.
00:42:16.46\00:42:18.17
Okay, thanks.
00:42:18.20\00:42:20.17
Jean: Next caller that we
have is Coby listening from
00:42:20.20\00:42:21.90
Washington, Coby
welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
00:42:21.94\00:42:25.81
Coby: Hello pastors.
00:42:25.84\00:42:28.64
I wanted to know
can people go to heaven
00:42:28.68\00:42:34.95
if they go to church on Sunday?
00:42:34.98\00:42:37.45
Doug: Okay.
00:42:37.49\00:42:38.89
There are going to
be a lot of people in
00:42:38.92\00:42:40.29
heaven that went
to church on Sunday.
00:42:40.32\00:42:41.92
There'll be
people in heaven that
00:42:41.96\00:42:43.29
maybe didn't know
what day to go to church.
00:42:43.32\00:42:45.49
Now, I think Coby might
be wondering because on this
00:42:45.53\00:42:48.06
program, we've said
that Biblically there's
00:42:48.10\00:42:50.33
no question the
seventh day is the Sabbath.
00:42:50.37\00:42:52.97
Well, what does
that mean about millions
00:42:53.00\00:42:54.67
of people around the
world that go to church on the
00:42:54.70\00:42:56.57
first day of the week
instead of the seventh day?
00:42:56.60\00:42:58.37
Are they automatically lost? No.
00:42:58.41\00:43:01.48
Sin is knowing to do good and
not doing it, so there's a lot
00:43:01.51\00:43:04.88
of people that don't
know God's will in this area.
00:43:04.91\00:43:08.65
And so, you know, Christians
that live up to all the light
00:43:08.68\00:43:12.22
that they have, they're
going to be in the kingdom.
00:43:12.25\00:43:15.72
But that doesn't mean we should
ignore what the Bible says.
00:43:15.76\00:43:18.89
Once we know
what the Bible says,
00:43:18.93\00:43:20.70
we need to
follow the Word of God.
00:43:20.73\00:43:22.20
Jean: Well, the
Bible speaks of a time
00:43:22.23\00:43:23.53
when God winked
at their ignorance.
00:43:23.57\00:43:25.57
For example, you
have many very godly men
00:43:25.60\00:43:28.14
in the Old Testament
that had more than one wife.
00:43:28.17\00:43:30.17
Well, that was never God's will.
00:43:30.21\00:43:31.54
Jesus made it very
clear when he said, in
00:43:31.57\00:43:33.24
the beginning he
created man and woman.
00:43:33.27\00:43:35.54
And yet they
still gonna be saved.
00:43:35.58\00:43:37.71
They kind of conformed
to the culture of the time.
00:43:37.75\00:43:41.08
And God has given us truth.
00:43:41.12\00:43:43.52
We want to follow all the light.
00:43:43.55\00:43:45.22
Doug: Yep. So, thank you Coby.
00:43:45.25\00:43:47.39
Hope that helps the
answer that a little bit.
00:43:47.42\00:43:49.72
Jean: We've got
Steven, listening in Canada.
00:43:49.76\00:43:52.06
Steven, welcome to the program.
00:43:52.09\00:43:55.33
Steven: Good evening, gentlemen.
00:43:55.36\00:43:56.90
I appreciate the
program as always.
00:43:56.93\00:43:58.40
I think it's the fifth
time I have a pleasure to call.
00:43:58.43\00:44:01.74
Thank you for taking my call.
00:44:01.77\00:44:03.07
What I would like to
know, what does the Bible
00:44:03.10\00:44:05.14
say about
fornication, you know, to keep
00:44:05.17\00:44:07.98
out of making love
outside of marriage?
00:44:08.01\00:44:10.91
Doug: I think the
Bible is pretty clear
00:44:10.95\00:44:12.61
that sexual
relations for people are to
00:44:12.65\00:44:16.02
be reserved for
the marriage covenant.
00:44:16.05\00:44:19.82
And I think we can see the
epidemic in our country and
00:44:19.85\00:44:22.76
other parts of the world, to
families where children are born
00:44:22.79\00:44:26.70
into single parent
families, not because the
00:44:26.73\00:44:29.40
father or mother
died, but because there
00:44:29.43\00:44:31.83
was no benefit of a
covenant of marriage.
00:44:31.87\00:44:34.74
And they grow up
and often struggle with
00:44:34.77\00:44:37.91
a whole spectrum
of problems because
00:44:37.94\00:44:40.04
they don't have the
biblically designed family.
00:44:40.08\00:44:43.04
Now I know there are
people that either through
00:44:43.08\00:44:45.35
divorce or death,
they're single parents and God
00:44:45.38\00:44:48.15
will watch over and
bless but it's not the ideal.
00:44:48.18\00:44:52.15
God's ideal is for
there to be man and woman.
00:44:52.19\00:44:55.36
Sex is to be reserved
for that, and you might
00:44:55.39\00:44:57.09
be thinking, well,
what if you know, if you
00:44:57.13\00:44:58.43
use birth control, what
difference does it make?
00:44:58.46\00:45:00.20
You know, God wants us to
reserve those intimate--that
00:45:00.23\00:45:05.20
intimate gift for
the marriage covenant.
00:45:05.23\00:45:09.20
And I think the
Bible, every verse in the
00:45:09.24\00:45:11.07
Bible that
addresses that is consistent.
00:45:11.11\00:45:13.61
Jean: All right.
00:45:13.64\00:45:15.01
Did you have a
second question, Steven?
00:45:15.04\00:45:17.35
Steven: Yes, because I was
just thinking, but I don't want
00:45:17.38\00:45:20.32
to add--thank you very much,
Professor Jean Ross for asking.
00:45:20.35\00:45:24.15
My second question is that
we should not add or distract
00:45:24.19\00:45:26.69
anything as Revelation
questions, but my humble
00:45:26.72\00:45:29.39
observation because the Sabbath
is going to be the seal of God
00:45:29.42\00:45:33.09
and also Isaiah 66:32-33 as
you know, is going to be eternal
00:45:33.13\00:45:37.10
life important, if this can keep
us more on the narrow path, more
00:45:37.13\00:45:42.47
in Christ, than
let's say Sunday, which is
00:45:42.50\00:45:44.64
not in the Bible or
you know any other day.
00:45:44.67\00:45:48.18
You know the Sunday, keep us
more clean, more pure bride of
00:45:48.21\00:45:51.75
Christ, the temple, you know
more being the men and more the
00:45:51.78\00:45:55.18
desire to stay
pure until marriage.
00:45:55.22\00:46:00.16
Doug: Well, I Ido
think there's benefit.
00:46:00.19\00:46:02.16
Whenever we obey
God, there's a blessing.
00:46:02.19\00:46:04.56
If you look in Isaiah
chapter 58, when it talks
00:46:04.59\00:46:06.96
about the Sabbath
commandment in particular
00:46:07.00\00:46:10.50
and you can look
in, let me see here.
00:46:10.53\00:46:15.87
Here we go, I'm getting close.
00:46:15.90\00:46:18.17
Isaiah 58, verse 13.
00:46:18.21\00:46:20.28
"If you turn away your foot from
the Sabbath, from doing your
00:46:20.31\00:46:23.04
pleasure on my holy day and call
the Sabbath a delight, the holy
00:46:23.08\00:46:27.58
day of the Lord, honorable and
shall honor him, not doing your
00:46:27.62\00:46:30.89
own ways or finding your own
pleasure or speaking your own
00:46:30.92\00:46:33.52
words, then you will delight
yourself in the Lord, and I will
00:46:33.56\00:46:37.66
cause you to ride on the high
places of the earth and feed you
00:46:37.69\00:46:41.16
with the heritage
of Jacob your father.
00:46:41.20\00:46:43.26
The mouth of the
Lord has spoken."
00:46:43.30\00:46:45.03
He promises special
blessings that go above
00:46:45.07\00:46:47.97
and beyond the
blessings of physical rest.
00:46:48.00\00:46:50.54
Jean: You know, we have a
study guide, it's called "The
00:46:50.57\00:46:52.04
Lost Day of History,"
and if anyone wants to
00:46:52.07\00:46:54.14
study this further,
it's an important topic,
00:46:54.18\00:46:56.24
we'll be able to
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00:46:56.28\00:46:57.88
The number to
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00:46:57.91\00:47:01.55
Just ask for the
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00:47:01.58\00:47:03.05
"The Lost Day of History."
00:47:03.08\00:47:04.65
We also have a website
called sabbathtruth.com, and you
00:47:04.69\00:47:07.59
can go there right away,
and you can see some great
00:47:07.62\00:47:09.32
resources and study
this further for yourself.
00:47:09.36\00:47:12.26
Next caller that we have
is Lee, listening in Texas.
00:47:12.29\00:47:14.20
Lee, welcome to the program.
00:47:14.23\00:47:16.16
Lee: Yes, sir, thank you.
00:47:16.20\00:47:18.70
My question is that Jesus knew
00:47:18.73\00:47:21.20
everything that
God knows, right?
00:47:21.24\00:47:24.84
Doug: Well, yes, he does
now, on earth he did not.
00:47:24.87\00:47:28.34
I mean, on earth he laid aside
his divinity, and so he only
00:47:28.38\00:47:32.11
knew that what was revealed
at the time by the Father.
00:47:32.15\00:47:35.95
Lee: Jesus once said that he
didn't know the day--the day of
00:47:35.98\00:47:39.19
his coming, but how could he not
know the day of his own coming
00:47:39.22\00:47:42.09
if he knew
everything that God does?
00:47:42.12\00:47:44.49
Doug: Well, when--he does
know now, but when Christ was on
00:47:44.53\00:47:47.13
earth as a man,
he--the incarnation.
00:47:47.13\00:47:49.96
I mean, think about it for a
moment, when Jesus was a baby in
00:47:50.00\00:47:52.40
the manger, do you think he had
all the knowledge of the cosmos
00:47:52.43\00:47:55.90
and all the knowledge of
God swirling around his head?
00:47:55.94\00:47:58.47
He had to learn to
talk like other babies.
00:47:58.51\00:48:00.71
So--and it says
in, is it Philippians
00:48:00.74\00:48:03.41
where it says he
laid aside his divinity?
00:48:03.45\00:48:08.18
He thought it not
robbery to be equal with God.
00:48:08.22\00:48:11.65
I might be
thinking of Colossians.
00:48:11.69\00:48:13.46
"But made
himself of no reputation,
00:48:13.49\00:48:15.99
taking on the
form of a servant."
00:48:16.02\00:48:17.66
So, Christ basically, when he
was on earth as a human and he
00:48:17.69\00:48:21.30
said, "No one knows the day
or the hour, I don't even know."
00:48:21.33\00:48:25.23
For one thing.
00:48:25.27\00:48:26.57
Jean:
Philippians 2:7. Doug: Yeah.
00:48:26.60\00:48:27.90
What would Jesus
say to the apostles?
00:48:27.94\00:48:29.30
Would he say,
"Yeah, February 26,
00:48:29.34\00:48:31.34
1945 is when
I'm coming or 2045"?
00:48:31.37\00:48:35.18
What would that mean to them?
00:48:35.21\00:48:37.08
I mean, how would--how
would he even relate the date?
00:48:37.11\00:48:39.78
They didn't have
that dating method.
00:48:39.81\00:48:41.62
So, does Jesus know the
day and the hour of his coming?
00:48:41.65\00:48:44.49
Of course, I mean, you can't
picture Jesus is up in heaven by
00:48:44.52\00:48:46.86
the Father and
he's saying, "Please let
00:48:46.89\00:48:48.49
me know, when am
I supposed to come?"
00:48:48.52\00:48:49.82
"No, can't show you
yet, can't trust you."
00:48:49.86\00:48:51.99
Of course he knows,
00:48:52.03\00:48:53.33
but on earth as a man,
he didn't know all that.
00:48:53.36\00:48:55.53
Jean: It had not
been revealed to him.
00:48:55.56\00:48:58.07
All right, thank you.
00:48:58.10\00:48:59.50
Next caller that we have is
Cindy, listening in Arizona.
00:48:59.53\00:49:02.17
Cindy, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:49:02.20\00:49:05.84
Hold on a second.
00:49:05.87\00:49:07.18
We just had
Cindy move real quick.
00:49:07.21\00:49:09.64
Do you have it
there, Pastor Doug?
00:49:09.68\00:49:10.98
Doug: We've got callers coming
in, so it shifts our names.
00:49:11.01\00:49:15.75
Well, let's--
00:49:15.78\00:49:17.09
Jean: Oh, there
it is, I found it.
00:49:17.12\00:49:18.42
Cindy in Arizona.
Cindy, welcome to the program.
00:49:18.45\00:49:20.99
Cindy: Hi, can you hear me?
00:49:21.02\00:49:22.32
Doug: We do.
Jean: We can hear you.
00:49:22.36\00:49:23.76
Cindy: Okay.
00:49:23.79\00:49:25.33
So, the question I have is
around the crying of blood from
00:49:25.36\00:49:32.37
the ground, the spilling of
innocent blood and the crying
00:49:32.40\00:49:35.74
out from the--from the
grave, like Abel in Genesis 4.
00:49:35.77\00:49:40.21
And then I--I had
mentioned Matthew 2,
00:49:40.24\00:49:45.81
I think it's 2:18
actually, where it mentions
00:49:45.85\00:49:47.55
Rachel and the
last part of that.
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Doug: Yes,
crying for her children.
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Cindy: Yeah, but I was wondering
about Revelation, I think it's 9
00:49:51.65\00:49:55.59
through 10 because
of the connection--
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Doug: The soul of those
under the altar crying out?
00:49:58.33\00:50:01.40
Cindy: Yeah, and it's
connection to abortion and, you
00:50:01.43\00:50:03.83
know, the 6th
commandment, not killing.
00:50:03.87\00:50:08.24
So, do you think that those
are the 63 plus million since
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Roe versus Wade, 1973,
do you think that could be?
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Doug: Yeah, I think I understand
00:50:19.88\00:50:21.18
what you're asking, Cindy.
00:50:21.22\00:50:22.58
You know, when God said to Cain,
"The blood of your brother, Abel
00:50:22.62\00:50:27.06
cries to me from the ground,"
he meant, the blood isn't little
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blood cells aren't,
you know, squeaking.
00:50:30.29\00:50:32.23
It wasn't talking
about literally, it--
00:50:32.26\00:50:34.40
it's a figure of
speech that the innocent blood
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of Abel was
crying out for justice.
00:50:38.33\00:50:40.84
You've got the innocent blood of
the children in the story of the
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slaughter in Bethlehem
crying out for justice.
00:50:44.91\00:50:48.74
Jesus had all the blood from
Abel to Zachariah, the son of
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Baraciah, who was an innocent
prophet killed in Jerusalem, was
00:50:53.15\00:50:56.38
going to come on
that generation, and
00:50:56.42\00:50:58.32
it did with the
destruction of Jerusalem.
00:50:58.35\00:51:00.36
When you read in Revelation,
is it chapter 9, where it's the
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souls under the
altars, is that 5?
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Jean: Chapter
6. Doug: Chapter 6.
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When you read about the souls
under the altar, it's again,
00:51:06.66\00:51:10.87
it's a symbol for the martyrs,
those who have died for the
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cause of Christ, but
the innocent blood of unborn
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children, that is also
crying out for justice.
00:51:19.01\00:51:22.18
That verse in particular I don't
think he's talking about that,
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but certainly God has record
of any injustice and innocent
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blood, and there'll
be a payday for that.
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Jean: Yeah, from the broader
context, you know, we're talking
00:51:33.96\00:51:35.82
about the first seal in the
sequence of events, if you kind
00:51:35.86\00:51:38.33
of follow through the
chronology, it's talking about a
00:51:38.36\00:51:40.83
time of severe persecution
that came upon Bible believing
00:51:40.86\00:51:43.70
Christians, during the time of
the Reformation and even before,
00:51:43.73\00:51:47.74
and that fits
into that time frame.
00:51:47.77\00:51:49.94
Could it refer to,
you know, the broader
00:51:49.97\00:51:52.47
aspect of just
innocent life being taken?
00:51:52.51\00:51:56.61
Possibly, but
more specifically--
00:51:56.64\00:51:57.95
Doug: The principle is the same.
00:51:57.98\00:51:59.21
Jean: Yeah, it's relating to the
martyrs during that time period.
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Doug: Thank you Cindy, hope
that helps a little and maybe we
00:52:02.58\00:52:04.95
have time for one more
before our first sign off.
00:52:04.99\00:52:08.02
Jean: All right, we got
Darryll listening in Florida.
00:52:08.06\00:52:09.72
Darryll, welcome to the program.
00:52:09.76\00:52:12.23
Darryl: Hey, Pastor
Doug and Pastor Jean.
00:52:12.26\00:52:16.03
So, we know that God and God
only can forgive sin, but how do
00:52:16.06\00:52:20.37
we reconcile when Jesus gave
the disciples the authority to
00:52:20.40\00:52:24.87
forgive sin in John
chapter 20, verse 23?
00:52:24.91\00:52:28.38
And then, once he gives them
that authority, it was only--
00:52:28.41\00:52:32.95
was it only those disciples or
was it from that point forward
00:52:32.98\00:52:38.69
that Jesus, if
you were a disciple of
00:52:38.72\00:52:41.36
Jesus, you had the
ability to forgive sin?
00:52:41.39\00:52:44.26
And then the next idea that
comes into my head, maybe this
00:52:44.29\00:52:48.03
is why some
certain priests think they
00:52:48.06\00:52:51.07
have the ability to
forgive people sins?
00:52:51.10\00:52:54.94
Doug: Yeah, let me
quote this for our friends
00:52:54.97\00:52:56.50
that are listening and
this is in Matthew chapter--
00:52:56.54\00:52:59.57
I'm sorry, John
chapter 20, verse 22.
00:52:59.61\00:53:03.28
It says, "And when he
said this, he breathed on
00:53:03.31\00:53:04.95
them and said to them,
'Receive the Holy Spirit.
00:53:04.98\00:53:08.52
If you forgive the sins of
any, they are forgiven of them.
00:53:08.55\00:53:11.99
If you retain the sins
of any, they are retained.'"
00:53:12.02\00:53:14.82
Now that has been quoted by
the Catholic Church and probably
00:53:14.86\00:53:17.39
others as proof that apostles
and priests can forgive sins.
00:53:17.43\00:53:23.90
But, I do believe that
Christians can forgive.
00:53:23.93\00:53:28.17
You know, keep in mind, Christ
says when you bring your gift to
00:53:28.20\00:53:31.17
the altar, if you
have ought with your
00:53:31.21\00:53:32.84
brother, go be
reconciled to your brother.
00:53:32.87\00:53:34.84
And in the Lord's
prayer it says, "Forgive
00:53:34.88\00:53:36.24
us our debts as we
forgive our debtors."
00:53:36.28\00:53:39.35
So, there's a
way for us to forgive
00:53:39.38\00:53:41.15
each other offenses against us.
00:53:41.18\00:53:43.49
In preaching the
Gospel, we are passing
00:53:43.52\00:53:45.72
on the
forgiveness of God to others.
00:53:45.75\00:53:48.92
In neglecting to preach the
Gospel, they're not having that
00:53:48.96\00:53:53.06
benefit so, in as much as
apostles and believers share the
00:53:53.09\00:53:59.17
Gospel of forgiveness, people
receive forgiveness, and when we
00:53:59.20\00:54:02.90
fail to do that, or
neglect to do that they
00:54:02.94\00:54:05.51
are--they
are--they lose that benefit.
00:54:05.54\00:54:08.51
I don't know,
what are your thoughts?
00:54:08.54\00:54:09.84
Jean: Yeah, absolutely.
00:54:09.88\00:54:11.18
I think it also
has a reference here to
00:54:11.21\00:54:12.68
church authority
or church leadership.
00:54:12.71\00:54:14.32
Not that the church can
forgive or not forgive, but if
00:54:14.35\00:54:17.82
somebody is living in open
violation and the church has
00:54:17.85\00:54:20.32
spoken to them and
they refuse to repent,
00:54:20.36\00:54:22.59
and the church
decides to remove them from
00:54:22.62\00:54:24.66
membership, that
is a serious thing.
00:54:24.69\00:54:27.50
And Christ did give
his church the ability to,
00:54:27.50\00:54:30.13
in that case,
protect the flock and also be
00:54:30.17\00:54:33.27
faithful to the
truth, to the Word.
00:54:33.30\00:54:35.00
Doug: Yeah, Matthew 18:18,
"Whatever you bind on earth will
00:54:35.04\00:54:37.91
be bound in heaven, whatever you
loose on earth will be loosed in
00:54:37.94\00:54:40.11
heaven," and that's in the
context of the church forgiving.
00:54:40.14\00:54:44.48
I hope that
helps, listening friends.
00:54:44.51\00:54:45.85
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Jean: Hello friends and welcome
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Pastor Doug, first question
that we have, it's a tough one.
00:55:44.17\00:55:46.41
It says, "How do you handle or
how do I handle my 31 year old
00:55:46.44\00:55:49.28
daughter who is now
transitioning into a man?"
00:55:49.31\00:55:53.62
Doug: Well, you know, that's
heartbreaking, and if you're
00:55:53.65\00:55:57.25
asking for a Bible
answer, I would say that,
00:55:57.29\00:56:00.09
you know, we
need to love people.
00:56:00.12\00:56:01.96
Obviously, you don't love sin,
and you certainly don't love
00:56:01.99\00:56:06.36
where someone might be going
through medical or chemical
00:56:06.39\00:56:11.77
procedures to try to
alter their gender because
00:56:11.80\00:56:13.90
it's really a--it's
an effort of futility.
00:56:13.94\00:56:16.30
You cannot alter your gender.
00:56:16.34\00:56:18.61
The genes of men and women are
different all the way down to
00:56:18.64\00:56:23.31
the very basic
level, the chromosomes.
00:56:23.35\00:56:26.01
And so they're finding out more
and more people that are trying
00:56:26.05\00:56:30.32
to transition are now
trying to untransition,
00:56:30.35\00:56:33.29
because they're not
finding the fulfillment.
00:56:33.32\00:56:36.12
I would say just be there
to show unconditional love.
00:56:36.16\00:56:39.83
While I know you don't approve
of sin and what your values are,
00:56:39.86\00:56:43.83
you want to support
them as a human being,
00:56:43.87\00:56:45.47
so you're there
for them afterward, if
00:56:45.50\00:56:48.40
they're looking for
love and encouragement.
00:56:48.44\00:56:52.07
Jean: Okay, very good.
00:56:52.11\00:56:53.74
Here is a question Aunt Nancy
is asking, she said, did God
00:56:53.78\00:56:56.51
breathe the breath of
life into all animals as well?
00:56:56.54\00:57:00.48
Doug: Yeah, that breath of
life, that God, it's says, "God
00:57:00.52\00:57:02.92
formed Adam from the
elements of the earth, the clay,
00:57:02.95\00:57:06.12
he breathed into his
nostrils the breath of
00:57:06.15\00:57:08.02
life and man
became a living soul."
00:57:08.06\00:57:11.76
Yes, that breath of life was not
only given to man, but you read
00:57:11.79\00:57:15.73
in Ecclesiastes that when any
creature dies, the breath, it
00:57:15.76\00:57:19.77
says the spirit
returns to God who gave
00:57:19.80\00:57:21.97
it, and the body
returns to the earth.
00:57:22.00\00:57:25.64
And so, the body decomposes and
00:57:25.67\00:57:27.68
the breath of
life returns to God.
00:57:27.71\00:57:29.28
And that says to man
and beast, in Ecclesiastes,
00:57:29.31\00:57:33.98
they have the
breath of life, obviously.
00:57:34.02\00:57:36.48
Jean: Okay, another
question, John is asking,
00:57:36.52\00:57:39.22
are we to be
afraid of evil spirits?
00:57:39.25\00:57:42.26
Doug: No.
00:57:42.29\00:57:43.69
First of all,
Jesus said, "Fear not,
00:57:43.73\00:57:45.16
fear not, fear not, fear not."
00:57:45.19\00:57:47.30
You know, I don't
think we should dabble
00:57:47.30\00:57:49.06
with or try to
confront or communicate
00:57:49.10\00:57:50.87
with evil spirits, but
just know they're there.
00:57:50.90\00:57:55.40
Good news is there's more
good spirits than evil spirits,
00:57:55.44\00:57:58.17
meaning there's more
good angels than evil angels.
00:57:58.21\00:58:01.11
And so, yeah, the Bible
tells us, "He that is in you is
00:58:01.14\00:58:05.78
greater than he
that is in the world," so
00:58:05.81\00:58:08.08
we don't need to be
afraid of the devil.
00:58:08.12\00:58:09.72
Resist the devil,
he'll flee from you, friends.
00:58:09.75\00:58:12.25
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