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Doug Batchelor: Hello, friends.
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Would you like to
hear an amazing fact?
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On May 1st, 2023, a plane
carrying seven crushed in the
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Amazon jungle of Colombia.
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The soldiers located the wreck
and the bodies of three adults,
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but the four children
ages 1 to 13 were missing.
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In a coordinated search
effort called "Operation Hope,"
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soldiers and indigenous
people covered approximately
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1,650 miles while
looking for the siblings.
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Incredibly, 40 days later after
tracking little footprints,
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soldiers located
the four children alive.
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They were very gaunt and
dehydrated, but they were
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expected to
make a full recovery.
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They suffered only minor
cuts and scrapes from the crash.
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Officials especially praised
13-year-old Leslie for ensuring
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survival of her younger siblings
9, 5, and 11 months old.
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Because of their indigenous
background, the children
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had some familiarity
with the rainforest fruits.
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This plus some cassava
flour were the key to their
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extraordinary survival in
an area where snakes, jaguars,
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mosquitoes, and
other animals abound.
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Because the children lost
their mother, the president of
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Colombia has committed funds
for the care of the children
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and to educate them.
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You know, Pastor Ross, I
think this is just amazing.
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You know, they were 40 days
and 40 nights in the wilderness.
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Jëan Ross: That's
right, Pastor Doug.
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It's just--it's remarkable for
a grown-up to be able to survive
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under those conditions for 40
days let alone three kids, the
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younger of which you
said was what, 14 months?
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Doug: The younger--11 months.
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Actually he turned 1
year old during the 40 days.
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Jëan: That is amazing, yeah.
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So there were angels unseen that
undoubtably were protecting them
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from just the wild animals
and all the things that could
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destroy them there.
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Doug: So when we hear 40 days
in the wilderness--well, you can
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think about the children
of Israel were 40 years in the
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wilderness, but you've got
Jesus fasting in the wilderness
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for 40 days and 40 nights.
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And you can read in Mark
1, verse 12 and 13 after his
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baptism, "Immediately
the Spirit of God drove him
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into the wilderness.
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And he was there in the
wilderness forty days, tempted
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by Satan, and was with the
wild beasts; and the angels
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ministered to him."
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I'm pretty sure angels took
care of those kids out there.
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Jëan: That's right.
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Doug: And you get the
story where Elijah ran into the
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wilderness and angels fed him.
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And then, of course, Moses was
40 days and 40 nights up on the
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mountain, actually two times,
getting the Ten Commandments.
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And you see a picture then
in the New Testament, the three
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individuals had fasted 40 days,
40 nights in the Bible are all
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on the mountain together,
Moses, Elijah, and Jesus,
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in what they call the
Mount of Transfiguration.
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And many people are surprised to
know they are the two witnesses.
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Moses and Elijah is a symbol of
the two witnesses that you find
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in Revelation chapter 11.
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Jëan: That's right, Pastor Doug.
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That is a great study.
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You just mentioned a few of the
similarities between Moses and
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Elijah and Christ.
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What else is interesting is you
have Moses who died and he was
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resurrected and taken to heaven,
and of course Elijah was taken
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to heaven without seeing death.
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It's obviously a miniature of
the second coming because it's
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going to be those who are
resurrected when Jesus comes
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again and there will be
those who will be translated
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without seeing death.
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So you almost got a picture here
of the second coming of Christ.
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So much to this
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Elijah, Jesus there on
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Well, Pastor Doug, before we get
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do we'd like to begin the
program with a word of prayer.
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So let's do that now.
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Dear Father, what a joy it
is for us to be able to open up
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Your Word and study
together, and, Lord,
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we ask for Your blessing.
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We recognize the
Bible is Your book.
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You inspired the
prophets of old who wrote it.
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And so we pray for that same
Spirit to come and guide us as
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Be with those who are listening
wherever they might be,
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and we ask this in
Jesus's name, amen?
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Doug: Amen.
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Jëan: I think we're ready
to go to our first caller this
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evening, Pastor Doug.
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We have got Cristi
listening in Canada.
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Cristi, welcome to the program.
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Cristi: Hi, pastors.
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Doug: Hi, thanks
for calling, Cristi.
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And your question tonight?
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Cristi: My question is the
validity of Jeremiah chapter 29,
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verse 11 and how to trust in the
Lord as David did in Psalms 31
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despite the verbal
criticisms of others.
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As the adversities I see in
the Bible kind of contrasts,
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I guess, in the literal
sense-- as it complies with
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school and my
grades and my future,
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as I grow
despondent of such matters
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and, you know, worry since I'm
not making the ideal grades even
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though I try my hardest
and pray while reminding myself
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of the promises of God.
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Doug: Well, that's a good
question and, you know, if--
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when you pray and you trust God
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and you still find
yourself struggling,
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don't be discouraged,
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because there's many
examples in the Bible
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of people that
prayed several times
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before they
experienced an answer.
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You can read about the children
of Israel, and there was quite a
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while that they were crying
unto the Lord for deliverance
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and says then the
Lord heard their prayer.
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Sometimes during
the time of waiting God
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is building our faith.
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There is a story in the
Bible about blind Bartimaeus.
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And Jesus was passing by, and he
was crying out and people told
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him to be quiet, but he kept
crying out, and then God stopped
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and Jesus brought
him and healed him.
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You wonder, why did the Lord
make him cry out several times?
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And there is a parable Jesus
shares in Luke chapter 18 about
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the widow that continues
to go to the judge and say,
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"Give me justice.
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Deal with my adversary."
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And then finally the judge says,
"Well, she is wearing me down.
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I'm going to answer."
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And God says how much more
will the Lord answer the prayers
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of those that cry
unto him day and night.
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So don't be discouraged, Cristi.
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You can trust what it says there
in Jeremiah 11--or 29, verse 11.
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He promises, "You'll search for
Me and you'll find Me when you
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search for Me with all
your heart," in verse 13.
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Just continue to pursue God and
you will see peace and answers.
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Jëan: You know, Cristi,
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the important principles
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Next caller that we have is
Kaela listening in Tennessee.
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Kaela, you are on
"Bible Answers Live."
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Kaela: Hi, my question is:
Where did Elijah get the water
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for the
offering on Mount Carmel?
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Doug: Yeah, just for
our friends listening,
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I'll set this up so
they have the background.
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But there is a big showdown on
Mount Carmel during 3 1/2 years
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of severe famine where Elijah
called together all the prophets
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of Baal, this false
god, and they prayed
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and nothing
happened with their altar.
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They were supposed to
pray and fire would come down,
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but there was no fire.
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But Elijah said, "I'm
going to pray for fire
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to come on God's altar.
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But to prove it's
God, we're going to put
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three barrels of water."
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You figure like, you know, three
big oil barrels of water were
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dumped on this altar to show
that it was a supernatural fire.
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But it's a famine.
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Where is the water coming from?
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Well, the famine there was
no food, there was no rain.
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Nothing was growing.
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There was still water in
the wells and in the springs
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not too far away
from Mount Carmel.
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You not only have the ocean down
the hill, doesn't say it was
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fresh water, could have been
salt water, and you've also got
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the Gihon spring
and the creek there,
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and it probably
still had water in it.
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So they, you know--
and all the people gathered
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up there on the mountain.
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The king probably had
bought some--brought some water
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so the people would have
something to drink up there.
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So there is a few different
options, but Bible says that
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they had water.
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They just didn't have any food.
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Jëan: All right, thank you.
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Next caller that
we have is Brittany,
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listening in California.
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Brittany,
welcome to the program.
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Brittany: Hey. Doug: Hi.
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Brittany: Yeah, mine
is: If dogs are unclean,
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and Revelation
22:15 condemns dogs,
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will there--will
our pets be in heaven?
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Doug: All right, and
says there in Revelation
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that the dogs are outside.
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And does that mean
there'll be no dogs in heaven,
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or will our pets be in heaven?
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You've got a
couple of questions here.
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First of all, what is it talking
about when it talks about dogs
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outside of the New Jerusalem?
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The word dogs there is
not even talking about people.
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You can look where Jesus and
even some of the Old Testament
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people in the prophecy about
Christ--when they were around
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the cross
persecuting Jesus it says,
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"Dogs have encompassed me."
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That's talking about people that
kind of rip and tear into you.
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So it's an analogy
of evil, vicious people.
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And even Christ said you
don't give the children's food
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to the dogs.
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He was talking
about the unbelievers.
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So when it says dogs are outside
the city, don't be thinking
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of canine or pooches.
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It's talking about evil people.
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Will there be dogs in heaven?
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God made dogs.
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I'm sure there'll
be dogs in heaven.
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Will your pets be in heaven?
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That's another question.
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No Scripture that
guarantees that God is going
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to resurrect your pets.
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There's no Scripture
that says God can't do that.
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So just--when you get
to heaven, I'll promise you
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you will be happy.
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So don't be
discouraged or worried.
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Jëan: That's right, Pastor Doug.
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The Bible says eye has not seen
nor ear heard, neither entered
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into the heart of man the
things that God is preparing
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for those that love Him.
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No one's going to
get to heaven and say,
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"Oh, man, I was
expecting something different.
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It's not quite
what I envisioned."
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No, it's going to be everything
that you can--you can't even
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imagine the things
that God has prepared
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for those that love Him.
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So we just need to get there.
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Next caller that we have
is Glenn listening in Ohio.
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Glenn, welcome to the program.
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Glenn: Thank you
for taking my call.
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And I tell you,
Amazing Facts is wonderful.
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Not above Yahweh.
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He's able and He did it again.
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You know, my question
is a little bit strange.
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I don't think that God was very
knowledgeable of such a thing
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as sin as evidenced by
the Scripture that the Savior
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claimed from before the
foundation of the world,
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but I wonder--my question is
I wonder what was on His mind
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when He allowed Satan to
introduce sin to the creation.
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Doug: Well, I won't pretend
that I could read God's mind.
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It tells us that, you
know, God is passed finding out.
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His ways are higher
than our ways as the heavens
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are above the earth.
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And I think the nearest star
is four light years away, which
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means if you travel 186,000
miles a second it's going
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to take you 4 years to
get to the nearest star.
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So God is infinite, but in His
wisdom God knew that He would
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have to take the risk of
making creatures--even powerful
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creatures like Lucifer that
might choose not to love Him
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because they're free.
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And we are all
free moral agents.
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And so Lucifer is exhibit A
that God makes us with a freedom
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to love Him, and Lucifer loved
God probably for, you know,
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millennia before he rebelled.
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We don't know.
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He was one of
the highest angels.
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He was probably around a long
time before the seeds of pride
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and rebellion grew in his heart.
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Jëan: Yes, we do have a study
guide that talks about that,
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Pastor Doug.
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It's called "Did
God Create the Devil?"
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And sometimes people think of
the devil, they think of Satan,
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they say, "Well,
did God create him bad?"
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No, that's not
what the Bible teaches.
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God created a beautiful angelic
being, the highest of all the
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angels, but He created Lucifer
and the others angels with
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freedom of choice, and
he exercised that choice
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to rebel against God.
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We'll be happy to send that
to anyone who calls and asks.
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The study guide is called
"Did God Create the Devil?"
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And the number to
call is 800-835-6747
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and ask for that study guide
"Did God Create the Devil?"
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You can also dial #250
and just say "Study guide--"
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or say "Bible Answers Live"
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and then say "Study
guide, Did God Create a Devil?"
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And we'll make sure
that we get that to you.
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Doug: By the way, Pastor
Ross, we also have a video
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online people can watch
called "Cosmic Conflict."
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You can just go to
YouTube or go to Amazing Facts
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and type in "Cosmic Conflict."
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I think it's the first thing
that will come up on YouTube,
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and it explains how the
devil came to be the devil.
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So you'll enjoy that.
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Jëan: All right, our next
caller that we have is Dennis,
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listening in South Carolina.
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Dennis, you're on the air.
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Dennis: Hey, Pastor
Doug and Pastor Ross.
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How are you?
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Doug: Good,
thank you for calling.
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Dennis: Well, my
question is real quick.
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So I'm on this group on Facebook
and everybody has different
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opinions and beliefs, but it is
my understanding that the Great
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Tribulation is a great
tribulation for the believers
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because we'll be being
persecuted by the unbelievers,
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and it'd be a great
tribulation for the unbelievers
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because they are going to
experience the wrath of God
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via the plagues.
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Doug: Well, yeah,
the Bible speaks of these
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two great tribulations.
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Jesus talks about a historic
great tribulation that went from
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538 to like 1798 during this
tremendous religious persecution
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throughout the
Roman-- fallen Roman Empire.
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May have been called
Papal Rome at that time.
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But there's a lot of
religious persecution
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that the church went through.
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He also talks about a
great tribulation the Jews
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went through.
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So he's also telling the
apostles that Jerusalem was
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going to fall and they go
through a great tribulation.
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But there's a final great
tribulation you read about in
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Daniel chapter 12, says
that Michael will stand up.
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I think this is verse 1.
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Michael will stand up.
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"The great prince that stands
for the children of Thy people
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and there'll be a time of
trouble such as there never was,
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even unto that time, and at that
time, many of those that sleep
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in the dust of
the earth will awake."
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So it's saying the
resurrection comes after
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this great time of trouble.
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There's going to be problems not
only of religious persecution.
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Not only will there be plagues.
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I think the whole planet is
going to be sort of imploding
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shortly before
the Lord's coming.
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So I think everyone's
going to experience some element
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of persecution or
tribulation that's going to come
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on the whole world.
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Jëan: You know, Revelations
chapter 7 describes four angels
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holding back the
four winds of the earth.
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Another angel
comes from heaven saying,
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"Don't let go of the
winds until we have sealed
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the servants of
God in their forehead."
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The wind represents
this time of trouble,
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this turmoil, this conflict.
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And so, yes, God is doing a work
of sealing, but when that work
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is finished probation
closes, the seven last plagues
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get poured out,
and then Jesus comes.
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Now, the good news is for the
believer, when probation closes
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God is going to
preserve those who trust in Him.
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We read in Psalms 91 no plague
will come nigh thy dwelling.
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God will send His
angels to watch over you.
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But there will be those who
suffer before probation closes.
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Some might even give their life
as a testimony of their faith
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and as a witness to
others, but that occurs
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before the close of probation.
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All right, thank you, Dennis.
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We've got Junith
listening in Nevada.
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Junith, welcome to the program.
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Junith: Sure, hi, good evening,
Pastor Jëan and Pastor Doug.
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Can you hear me?
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Doug: Yes, your question?
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Junith: Thanks
for taking my call.
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My question is regarding
the Lord of the Sabbath,
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who is the Lord of the Sunday.
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Mark 2:20.
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Jesus--can you please explain
in a holistic way the connection
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between creation, redemption,
and then recreation, and then
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restoration to eternal paradise
before Adam and Eve sinned?
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And also please focus also on
the mark of this 666 beast and
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the seal of the heavenly Father.
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Thank you.
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Doug: All right, well, you
gave us a tall order that--
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Jëan: It's a Bible
prophecy seminar, right?
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All the
important prophetic truths.
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Doug: Not going to be
able to cover all of that.
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Now, part of what Junith
was asking, if you look in--
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for example, in
Revelation chapter 1,
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I think it's
verse 10, John says,
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"I was in the
spirit on the Lord's Day."
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And some have wondered,
what is that Lord's Day?
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And I even heard a pastor
say this week that was Sunday.
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Well, there's no Scripture
that calls Sunday the Lord's Day
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anywhere in the Bible.
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They just--it sort of
comes from a tradition.
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If you want to know what is the
Lord's Day, the Lord's Day, the
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Bible says God is--the seventh
day is the Sabbath of the Lord.
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And then you can look
in Isaiah 58 and He calls
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the Sabbath My holy day.
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And Jesus says, and she
was referring to this, in Mark
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chapter 2 the son of man
is Lord also of the Sabbath.
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So if there is a day of
the week that God is the Lord,
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it would be the Sabbath.
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Some have wondered there in
Revelation chapter 1 it says,
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"I was in the
spirit on the Lord's Day,"
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is it talking about, "I was
in the spirit and I witnessed
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the day of the Lord's return."
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I actually think he had
his vision on the Sabbath day.
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He's just saying that he was
resting that day and God came
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to him and spoke to him.
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Jëan: Yeah, you know,
in the Bible you have the
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phrase--Pastor Doug, as you
know we've got the Lord's Day
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and then we have
the day of the Lord.
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It's not always the same thing.
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You have the Lord's Day and then
you have the day of the Lord.
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It's often associated
with the second coming or the
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establishment of Christ's
kingdom and power and glory,
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but the Lord's Day would be
the seventh day of the week.
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Doug: Correct.
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Jëan: You know, we do have
a book, it's one of our study
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guides, and it's called
"The Lost Day of History."
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So if you're wondering what does
the Bible say about the Lord's
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Day, you're wondering
about the Sabbath, call and ask.
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The number to call
for that is 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the study guide.
00:19:41.78\00:19:43.14
It's called "The
Lost Day of History."
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Or dial #250 on your smartphone,
say "Bible Answers Live,"
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and then, again,
ask for the study guide
00:19:50.12\00:19:51.85
"The Lost Day of History."
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We'll send it out to you.
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Next caller that we have
is Billy listening in LA.
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Billy, welcome to the program.
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Or I guess Louisiana.
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Billy: Okay, my question
is: What day of the week
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was Jesus crucified on?
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Doug: Well, a quick
answer would be Friday.
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And the reason we say this--it
says the Sabbath drew on and
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they wanted to take the
bodies off of the crosses
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before the Sabbath.
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Now, that Sabbath was
also a Passover Sabbath,
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but it calls it
the preparation day.
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And then you read in Luke,
it says that they went home
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and kept the Sabbath
according to the commandments.
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So we know what Sabbath it was.
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It was a Sabbath according
to the Ten Commandments,
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which is the
seventh day of the week.
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So the day immediately
precedes the seventh day,
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which is Saturday.
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You know, all the Jews today
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still keep the
seventh day, Saturday.
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That would be Friday.
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That's why many religions
call Friday Good Friday.
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Now, some have read in Matthew
chapter 12 where Jesus said
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Moses--I'm sorry.
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"As Jonah was in the belly
of the fish three days and three
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nights, so the son of man will
be in the heart of the earth
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three days and three nights."
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And they think, "Well,
in order for that to work,
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you got to move the
day of the crucifixion."
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So were you
wondering about that, Billy?
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Billy: Yes, because I've
done a lot of study on it,
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and everybody believes
that he was crucified on Friday,
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preparation day for the
regular seventh-day Sabbath.
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But John, he quotes in there
about the half Sabbath the--
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in other words, you can't
get 3 1/2 days from Friday
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to early Sunday morning.
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Doug: Well, you
don't mean 3 1/2,
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you mean 3 days?
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Billy: Three days, but there's--
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it clearly says in
John that they last the--
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Jonah in the whale,
he's been in the heart of the
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earth three days and three
nights, and the only way I can
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see the Scriptures all and
falling in together is he was
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crucified on Wednesday evening
before the half Sabbath and
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entered into the grave,
and he been there 3 1/2--
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3 days and 3 nights,
which he'd be resurrected
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probably 72 hours later.
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Doug: Yeah, let me
tell you the place where
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the mistake comes in.
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People read
that one verse there.
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You don't want to build
a doctrine on one verse.
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That one verse there
in Matthew chapter 12
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where Jesus says
three days, three nights,
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heart of the earth, they
assume the heart of the earth
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means only his time in the tomb.
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When Jesus says heart of
the earth, there's nowhere else
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in the Bible the tomb is
called the heart of the earth.
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When he says heart of the earth,
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he's talking about in
the midst of the world.
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When Jesus started suffering
for the sins of the world,
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that was Thursday night.
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The penalty for
sin was not just death.
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And it wasn't just the
time that he was in the tomb,
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it was the suffering.
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And in the Garden of Gethsemane
he told the disciples,
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"Now is the hour."
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So that's when you
punch the starting stopwatch,
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you might say.
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Thursday night he
began-- he said, "Not my will.
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Thy will be done."
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The Father
withdrew His protection.
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For three days and three nights
Jesus was suffering for the sins
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of the world, and he was
beaten and tried and mistreated
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and tortured and he
rose again Sunday morning.
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So that's the three
days and three nights.
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It starts Thursday
night after the Last Supper.
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And so you don't need to
move the crucifixion day.
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'Cause when Luke talks
about the sign of Jonah,
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he never even mentions--
in the Gospel of Luke,
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Jesus talks about
the sign of Jonah.
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He says as Jonah was
assigned to the Ninevites.
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Doesn't even mention the
three days and three nights.
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So be careful not to try and
move the day of the crucifixion
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because of that.
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We do have a free book
we can offer you on that.
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Well, let's see, Pastor Doug.
00:24:36.81\00:24:38.24
We've got 2 minutes to go here.
00:24:38.27\00:24:39.84
Let's see if we can
maybe get Roger in Minnesota.
00:24:39.87\00:24:42.41
Roger, welcome to the program.
00:24:42.44\00:24:46.15
Roger: Hi, Pastor Doug.
00:24:46.18\00:24:47.58
Doug: Hi.
00:24:47.62\00:24:49.38
Roger: My
question is kind of heavy.
00:24:49.42\00:24:50.75
It's why did God
choose the number 2,300.
00:24:50.79\00:24:53.62
Why not 2,000 or 2,400?
00:24:53.66\00:24:57.39
Doug: You're talking about
in Daniel chapter 8, verse 14,
00:24:57.43\00:25:00.10
I'm assuming.
00:25:00.13\00:25:01.96
Roger: Yeah, and if you
could--you would allow me to
00:25:02.00\00:25:04.07
respond after your comment,
I would appreciate that.
00:25:04.10\00:25:06.23
Doug: Okay, don't
know-- hopefully we'll have
00:25:06.27\00:25:08.17
enough time, but I don't--
I can't give you a reason
00:25:08.20\00:25:11.07
why God chose that
particular numerical quantity.
00:25:11.11\00:25:15.61
I just know that God said that's
what the quantity would be from
00:25:15.64\00:25:18.28
the starting point to the
ending point of the prophecy.
00:25:18.31\00:25:21.65
So you must have
something in mind.
00:25:21.68\00:25:24.62
Roger: I do.
00:25:24.65\00:25:26.35
Doug: Okay, please be
brief because we're going
00:25:26.39\00:25:28.19
to run out of time.
00:25:28.22\00:25:29.99
Roger: I'm sorry to hear that.
00:25:30.03\00:25:31.79
God gave Moses two festivals
to keep after they left Egypt:
00:25:31.83\00:25:36.13
the spring festival
and the fall festival.
00:25:36.16\00:25:38.73
And when Jesus was crucified,
how did he know he was going to
00:25:38.77\00:25:41.57
be resurrected on the third day?
00:25:41.60\00:25:43.61
That's because he was a
wave sheep of the first fruits.
00:25:43.64\00:25:46.88
And how did he know
that was his last supper?
00:25:46.91\00:25:48.91
That's because on the 14th day
of the first month the Passover
00:25:48.94\00:25:51.95
lamb was slain, and Jesus
knew he was the lamb of God.
00:25:51.98\00:25:55.18
So if the spring festival held
that much weight, then the fall
00:25:55.22\00:25:58.75
festival must hold
also that much weight.
00:25:58.79\00:26:01.69
So if we count the days God has
already given in Leviticus 23 on
00:26:01.72\00:26:05.43
the first day, the blowing of
the trumpet for 90 days, on the
00:26:05.46\00:26:08.70
10th day the Day of Atonement,
on the 15th day the Feast of
00:26:08.73\00:26:11.43
Tabernacles for 7 days,
and then there's a 8th day.
00:26:11.47\00:26:14.07
You add all that
together and you come up
00:26:14.10\00:26:16.04
with 22 literal days.
00:26:16.07\00:26:19.27
So 1 Kings chapter 7 and 2 Kings
chapter 7, thereabouts, it says
00:26:19.31\00:26:27.85
that when Solomon had finished
building the temple he told the
00:26:27.88\00:26:31.02
people to go--which was--and
then he--then they had the feast
00:26:31.05\00:26:35.26
then and then at the 22nd
day they were told to go home
00:26:35.29\00:26:38.69
in 1 Kings and on the 23rd
day they was--told to go home
00:26:38.73\00:26:42.40
in Chronicles.
00:26:42.43\00:26:44.43
So in Daniel 8 it
says unto 2,300 days,
00:26:44.47\00:26:48.00
not 2,300 days and one more.
00:26:48.04\00:26:51.14
It's just unto, up to that.
00:26:51.17\00:26:53.48
So you have 22 days, 22
1/2, 22 3/4, 22 7/8, 22 8/8.
00:26:53.51\00:26:58.68
That brings you right up
to 2,300 of 22 full days, and
00:26:58.71\00:27:03.08
evidently God has taken
His 22 full days and turned it
00:27:03.12\00:27:07.26
into hundreds of days.
00:27:07.29\00:27:11.16
So it's 2,300, which
is a little over 6 years.
00:27:11.19\00:27:13.86
Doug: Okay, well, we're
going to run out of time here.
00:27:13.90\00:27:17.07
I bet you are an accountant
because you got a lot of math
00:27:17.10\00:27:21.87
going on there.
00:27:21.90\00:27:23.20
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00:31:30.99\00:31:33.22
Bob, welcome to the program.
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Bob: Hi, thank you very much.
00:31:35.56\00:31:37.69
My question is in this time that
we're living now on earth, is
00:31:37.73\00:31:42.50
there a connection between
physical healing from God
00:31:42.53\00:31:47.47
and obedience?
00:31:47.50\00:31:50.54
Doug: Yeah, well,
sometimes Jesus healed a person.
00:31:50.57\00:31:52.81
I'm thinking about
the pool of Bethesda.
00:31:52.84\00:31:54.91
When he healed that man
he said, "Go and sin no more,
00:31:54.94\00:31:58.48
lest a worst
thing come upon you."
00:31:58.51\00:32:01.75
So there is definitely
a connection between sin
00:32:01.78\00:32:05.39
and healing, not every time.
00:32:05.42\00:32:07.19
Some sickness is just because,
you know, degeneration of
00:32:07.22\00:32:10.16
humanity and disease in
the world, but some sickness is
00:32:10.19\00:32:14.66
brought upon us by sin.
00:32:14.73\00:32:17.37
And God does still
also miraculously heal
00:32:17.40\00:32:21.80
in response to prayer and--
00:32:21.84\00:32:23.97
Jëan: You know, I think of
the verse, Pastor Doug, in James
00:32:24.01\00:32:25.87
where James gives guidance
for the church and he says,
00:32:25.91\00:32:28.91
"If somebody is sick among you,
let them call for the elders.
00:32:28.94\00:32:31.81
Let them pray over him."
00:32:31.85\00:32:33.62
But there was also associated
with that special anointing
00:32:33.65\00:32:36.65
service a confession
of sin because it says,
00:32:36.69\00:32:39.52
"If he has committed any
sins, he shall be forgiven,
00:32:39.55\00:32:42.32
and the Lord will raise him up."
00:32:42.36\00:32:44.16
So if we are seeking the Lord
to heal us and we know of a sin
00:32:44.19\00:32:48.60
that we have not committed
or forsaken, we want to get
00:32:48.63\00:32:51.43
that taken care of.
00:32:51.47\00:32:53.07
We want to get that out of
the way so that doesn't become
00:32:53.10\00:32:55.00
a hindrance to God
answering our prayer.
00:32:55.04\00:32:56.77
Doug: Yeah, says He forgives
our sins and heals our diseases,
00:32:56.81\00:32:59.67
and I think it's Psalm 103.
00:32:59.71\00:33:01.91
So there's often a connection.
00:33:01.94\00:33:03.61
Thank you.
00:33:03.65\00:33:05.11
Hope that helps
a little bit, Bob.
00:33:05.15\00:33:07.15
Jëan: All right, next
caller that we have is Angela,
00:33:07.18\00:33:09.08
listening in Illinois.
00:33:09.12\00:33:10.42
Angela, welcome to the program.
00:33:10.45\00:33:12.95
Angela: Hello.
00:33:12.99\00:33:14.72
I have a question in
regards to Acts 23:8.
00:33:14.76\00:33:19.59
It says that, "For the Sadducees
say there is no resurrection
00:33:19.63\00:33:24.70
or angels or spirits,
but the Pharisees believe
00:33:24.73\00:33:28.20
in all of these."
00:33:28.24\00:33:29.94
I guess my question is
then if the Sadducees says that,
00:33:29.97\00:33:34.78
that there's no resurrection
or angels or spirits,
00:33:34.81\00:33:37.71
then what did they
actually believe in?
00:33:37.75\00:33:40.08
I mean--
00:33:40.12\00:33:42.15
Doug: Seems pretty
hopeless, doesn't it?
00:33:42.18\00:33:44.75
Angela: Yeah, I was
going to say there's no hope.
00:33:44.79\00:33:47.59
Doug: Yeah, the Sadducees
were a pretty liberal group and
00:33:47.62\00:33:50.13
they thought that, you know,
God, He can bless you in this
00:33:50.16\00:33:52.79
life if you obey Him, but
they didn't really talk about
00:33:52.83\00:33:56.36
a resurrection
or a spiritual life.
00:33:56.40\00:33:58.43
It was all like it's
all right here right now.
00:33:58.47\00:34:01.37
And yeah, that'd be pretty sad.
00:34:01.40\00:34:04.04
It's almost like those
who believe in evolution
00:34:04.07\00:34:05.87
that say this is it.
00:34:05.91\00:34:07.84
Jëan: Mm-hmm, it's all you have.
00:34:07.88\00:34:09.64
Doug: Yeah, you die and
you turn back to fertilizer,
00:34:09.68\00:34:11.18
and that was your life.
00:34:11.21\00:34:12.81
So I've wondered that before.
00:34:12.85\00:34:14.52
Just, you know, who
would want to be a Sadducee?
00:34:14.55\00:34:15.95
That's why they
were sad, you see?
00:34:15.98\00:34:17.79
[laughing]
00:34:17.82\00:34:19.49
Jëan: And they claimed to
only believe the first five
00:34:19.52\00:34:21.19
books written by Moses, but
in those first five books you do
00:34:21.22\00:34:24.83
have references to angels.
00:34:24.86\00:34:26.53
Doug: Yeah.
00:34:26.56\00:34:28.10
Jëan: So it was kind of
strange how that they rejected
00:34:28.13\00:34:29.60
the belief of angels
and the resurrection.
00:34:29.63\00:34:31.23
Of course, you know, we have
examples in the first five books
00:34:31.27\00:34:34.04
of Moses of the resurrection.
00:34:34.07\00:34:36.10
So, you know, it
is interesting that--
00:34:36.14\00:34:37.97
yeah, that's
neglected, pushed aside.
00:34:38.01\00:34:40.81
Doug: Yep.
00:34:40.84\00:34:42.14
Jëan: All right, next
caller that we have is Dale
00:34:42.18\00:34:43.75
in Illinois.
00:34:43.78\00:34:45.25
Dale, welcome to the program.
00:34:45.28\00:34:47.22
Dale: Yes, good evening,
Pastor Doug, Pastor Jëan.
00:34:47.25\00:34:51.02
Doug: Evening.
00:34:51.05\00:34:52.75
Dale: In your Minnesota
seminar you answered that you
00:34:52.79\00:34:56.56
believe Sunday worshipers will
be in heaven and on your Amazing
00:34:56.59\00:35:00.83
Facts program on Hope Channel
you said you believe millions
00:35:00.86\00:35:05.03
of Sunday
worshipers would be in heaven.
00:35:05.07\00:35:07.67
So my question is: Wouldn't
any and all Sunday worshipers
00:35:07.70\00:35:11.74
be disobeying the Sabbath?
00:35:11.77\00:35:13.98
Doug: Well, yeah,
and I did say that.
00:35:14.01\00:35:16.38
And you know, sometimes people
have said because we teach the
00:35:16.41\00:35:18.91
Sabbath truth on this program,
are we saying that all those
00:35:18.95\00:35:22.15
people that don't know
that truth are going to be lost?
00:35:22.18\00:35:25.52
And we say,
"No, absolutely not."
00:35:25.55\00:35:27.72
It's one of God's commandments.
00:35:27.76\00:35:29.82
But there are going to be people
in heaven--for example, the
00:35:29.86\00:35:32.06
Bible says that you're
only supposed to have one wife,
00:35:32.09\00:35:35.16
but you're going to find people
in heaven like David and Solomon
00:35:35.20\00:35:38.33
and Jacob and others
that had multiple wives.
00:35:38.37\00:35:41.47
And you read in Acts chapter 17,
"At the times of this ignorance
00:35:41.50\00:35:44.67
God winked at."
00:35:44.71\00:35:46.51
And so there are people of God
who lived through history who
00:35:46.54\00:35:49.28
maybe they didn't know certain
biblical truths and they lived
00:35:49.31\00:35:52.05
up to the light they had,
and God will wink at their
00:35:52.08\00:35:54.78
ignorance, but once we
know the truth--for example,
00:35:54.82\00:36:00.69
I don't drink.
00:36:00.72\00:36:02.42
I don't drink
alcohol. I think it's a sin.
00:36:02.46\00:36:04.19
I know better. I
see what it does.
00:36:04.23\00:36:07.40
Martin Luther drank, but he
lived in a time where everybody
00:36:07.46\00:36:11.00
drank beer 'cause
the water wasn't good.
00:36:11.03\00:36:13.27
I expect to see him in heaven.
00:36:13.30\00:36:15.00
He didn't know.
00:36:15.04\00:36:16.71
I don't smoke 'cause I
think smoke is--smoking is kind
00:36:16.74\00:36:18.97
of like, you know, thou
shall not kill yourself.
00:36:19.01\00:36:21.84
Says right there on the
pack, "This will kill you."
00:36:21.88\00:36:24.81
Well, the guy who wrote Amazing
Grace, John Newton, he smoked.
00:36:24.85\00:36:28.02
They thought it was good
for your lungs back then.
00:36:28.05\00:36:29.95
They were wrong.
00:36:29.98\00:36:31.45
So there are people through
history that are godly people,
00:36:31.49\00:36:33.66
they just didn't
know certain things.
00:36:33.69\00:36:35.39
And there's dear spiritual
people in many churches that
00:36:35.42\00:36:38.23
have not heard what the
Bible says or they've not had it
00:36:38.26\00:36:41.13
presented well about the Sabbath
truth still being a commandment
00:36:41.16\00:36:44.67
that is to be kept.
00:36:44.70\00:36:46.10
So do I think there are people
that are going to go to heaven
00:36:46.13\00:36:49.50
that went to church on Sunday?
00:36:49.54\00:36:51.17
Absolutely.
00:36:51.21\00:36:53.01
I don't think there's going
to be people in heaven that knew
00:36:53.04\00:36:55.44
the Word of God and
turned away from it.
00:36:55.48\00:36:59.08
The Bible says once
we know what God wants,
00:36:59.11\00:37:01.75
if we turn away
from it, that's sin.
00:37:01.78\00:37:03.62
Sin is knowing to do
good and not doing it.
00:37:03.65\00:37:05.95
So hopefully that clarifies
that a little bit, Dale.
00:37:05.99\00:37:08.29
Jëan: Yeah, of course, when
everyone does get to heaven,
00:37:08.32\00:37:10.26
the Bible says that
there will be a gathering
00:37:10.29\00:37:12.03
that occurs every week.
00:37:12.06\00:37:13.53
It's not the first
day or the sixth day.
00:37:13.56\00:37:15.13
It's going to be on the
seventh called the Sabbath.
00:37:15.16\00:37:17.53
So everyone will be
keeping the Sabbath in heaven.
00:37:17.57\00:37:19.97
Doug: Yeah, from one Sabbath
to another, all flesh will come
00:37:20.00\00:37:22.20
to worship before
the Lord: Isaiah 66.
00:37:22.24\00:37:24.74
Jëan: All right, thank you.
00:37:24.77\00:37:26.37
Next caller that we
have is Ivan from Mexico.
00:37:26.41\00:37:29.18
Ivan, welcome to the program.
00:37:29.21\00:37:31.81
Ivan: Good evening,
pastors. How you doing?
00:37:31.85\00:37:33.52
Doug: Doing great.
00:37:33.55\00:37:35.22
Ivan: My question is
in 2 Corinthians 12:9.
00:37:35.25\00:37:38.79
"And he said to me, 'My
grace is sufficient for you,
00:37:38.82\00:37:41.62
for my strength is
made perfect in weakness.'
00:37:41.66\00:37:44.23
Therefore most gladly I will
rather boast in my infirmities
00:37:44.26\00:37:47.93
that the power of
Christ may rest upon me."
00:37:47.96\00:37:51.63
Doug: Okay, you
just want to explain it?
00:37:51.67\00:37:55.94
Ivan: Yeah, please.
00:37:55.97\00:37:57.87
Doug: Yeah, Paul had some
affliction he talks about, and
00:37:57.91\00:38:01.01
he mentions that earlier
in that verse where he said,
00:38:01.04\00:38:03.71
"I had a thorn in the
side, messenger from Satan."
00:38:03.75\00:38:07.15
No one's exactly sure
what it was, but many speculate
00:38:07.18\00:38:09.75
he had a
problem with his vision.
00:38:09.78\00:38:12.29
And he prayed that God
would heal him, but God says no.
00:38:12.32\00:38:15.02
You'll notice other people
often write Paul's letters.
00:38:15.06\00:38:17.06
He dictates for them.
00:38:17.09\00:38:18.86
And there's a few occasions in
the Bible where it appears Paul
00:38:18.89\00:38:21.56
didn't see what was happening.
00:38:21.60\00:38:23.57
Paul is basically saying that
God is allowing him to suffer
00:38:23.60\00:38:26.80
some affliction, that he would
trust the Lord had kept him
00:38:26.84\00:38:30.17
humble, and he says in verse 7,
"Lest I should be exalted above
00:38:30.21\00:38:34.78
measure by the
abundance of revelations."
00:38:34.81\00:38:36.81
Paul had talked to Jesus, he saw
visions, and he said, "You know,
00:38:36.85\00:38:40.58
God's keeping me humble because
I've had that relationship
00:38:40.62\00:38:42.88
by this physical affliction.
00:38:42.92\00:38:45.19
And I'm going to glory in
my afflictions if that keeps me
00:38:45.22\00:38:48.76
closer to the Lord.
00:38:48.79\00:38:50.33
If that's God's
will, I will embrace it."
00:38:50.36\00:38:52.33
And I've known people who
have struggled with some kind of
00:38:52.36\00:38:55.26
physical handicap and they
say, "God use this to save me,
00:38:55.30\00:38:57.83
and I thank God for it."
00:38:57.87\00:38:59.70
It's hard to understand when
you're going through it, but in
00:38:59.73\00:39:02.34
the big picture when we get to
heaven we'll say, "I am glad for
00:39:02.37\00:39:05.64
the trials that God sent
'cause he used it to save me."
00:39:05.67\00:39:09.34
Jëan: All
right, thank you, Ivan.
00:39:09.38\00:39:10.91
We got Michael in Alabama.
00:39:10.95\00:39:12.85
Michael, welcome to the program.
00:39:12.88\00:39:15.15
Michael: Oh, good evening.
00:39:15.18\00:39:16.75
First, about a month ago either
Mr. Ross or Mr. Batchelor on
00:39:16.79\00:39:22.49
this broadcast answered another
caller's question about the
00:39:22.52\00:39:26.09
so-called mark of the beast.
00:39:26.13\00:39:27.86
Now, I myself am not obsessed
with Bible prophecy unlike
00:39:27.93\00:39:32.70
countless thousands of
Protestants, but one that--
00:39:32.73\00:39:37.74
your interpretation
has frightened me.
00:39:37.77\00:39:41.48
It said--you answered the
person's question, either one of
00:39:41.51\00:39:45.05
you, that the beast--mark of the
beast is like the devil's seal
00:39:45.08\00:39:52.02
of approval in your
mind and heart and spirit--
00:39:52.05\00:39:54.86
mind and your
will and your spirit.
00:39:54.89\00:39:58.09
I don't see that definition
anywhere here in Revelation
00:39:58.13\00:40:03.53
and I wonder where and
how you arrived at this.
00:40:03.57\00:40:05.97
I got obses--severe depression
as a baby Christian, a teenage
00:40:06.00\00:40:10.84
Christian, and then obsessive
compulsive disorder from
00:40:10.87\00:40:14.58
churchianity from pastors that
taught stuff like this, that you
00:40:14.61\00:40:18.88
could commit practically
unpardonable sins without
00:40:18.91\00:40:23.02
knowing it because
you have some secret--
00:40:23.05\00:40:26.82
almost like you have some
secret covenant with Satan
00:40:26.86\00:40:29.39
just for being you
or something like that.
00:40:29.42\00:40:31.66
Doug: All right,
well, let us get it--
00:40:31.69\00:40:33.70
jump in here and try and
say something to respond.
00:40:33.73\00:40:36.80
So, again, I don't
know exactly what question
00:40:36.83\00:40:39.60
or which one of us responded to.
00:40:39.63\00:40:41.37
We probably pretty much
believe the same thing on this,
00:40:41.40\00:40:43.41
'cause it's not new with us.
00:40:43.44\00:40:46.54
The teaching through history,
and it's from the Bible, is that
00:40:46.57\00:40:50.71
the mark of the beast is really
the opposite of the seal of God,
00:40:50.75\00:40:54.22
talks about the mark being
in the hand or in the forehead.
00:40:54.25\00:40:57.35
If you look in the Old
Testament, Moses, after giving
00:40:57.39\00:41:00.32
the Ten Commandments,
says in Deuteronomy chapter 6,
00:41:00.36\00:41:03.83
"These words I command you
this day shall be in your heart.
00:41:03.86\00:41:07.00
You shall bind them
for a sign upon your hand.
00:41:07.03\00:41:10.27
They shall be as
frontlets between your eyes."
00:41:10.30\00:41:12.77
It's talking about
the forehead biblically.
00:41:12.80\00:41:15.00
The law of God was
to be in their hand.
00:41:15.04\00:41:17.61
And again, you read in Isaiah
chapter 8, it says that we are
00:41:17.64\00:41:21.48
sealed with the law of God.
00:41:21.51\00:41:23.68
So the law of God is sealed
in our hearts and our minds.
00:41:23.71\00:41:27.02
If we do not have the law of God
we'll have the laws of the beast
00:41:27.05\00:41:31.05
in our minds.
00:41:31.09\00:41:32.85
And ultimately it's going to
mean they're obeying the laws
00:41:32.89\00:41:36.83
of the beast
instead of the laws of God.
00:41:36.86\00:41:39.03
You look in Daniel chapter
3 and it's got the king making
00:41:39.06\00:41:42.26
everyone worship a
image or he would be killed.
00:41:42.30\00:41:46.17
Revelation 13 is
harkening back to that.
00:41:46.20\00:41:49.50
Says those who do not
worship the image of the beast
00:41:49.54\00:41:51.47
would be killed.
00:41:51.51\00:41:53.21
If we obey the laws of this
final beast power that will be
00:41:53.24\00:41:55.98
in conflict with the law of God,
we're going to have the seal of
00:41:56.01\00:42:00.55
God, but we'll be persecuted
by the beast as a death penalty.
00:42:00.58\00:42:03.69
Now, I'm not
saying this to scare you.
00:42:03.72\00:42:05.62
I just have to tell
you what the Bible says.
00:42:05.65\00:42:07.56
It's pretty clear it's happened
several times in history.
00:42:07.59\00:42:10.36
Jëan: You know, Pastor Doug,
I think not only is the Bible
00:42:10.39\00:42:12.59
portray it, but we can just
look in the world around us.
00:42:12.63\00:42:14.50
We're in the midst
of the great controversy
00:42:14.56\00:42:16.26
between good and evil.
00:42:16.30\00:42:17.90
There are bad things
happening to good people.
00:42:17.93\00:42:19.47
There are bad things
happening to bad people.
00:42:19.50\00:42:21.27
There are wars and
there's unjust things happening
00:42:21.30\00:42:23.67
all around us.
00:42:23.71\00:42:25.07
And the question is why?
00:42:25.11\00:42:26.47
Well, the Bible
gives the answer.
00:42:26.51\00:42:27.98
It says that Satan is the author
of pain and suffering and death,
00:42:28.01\00:42:30.85
and God wants to save us,
and that's the whole plan of
00:42:30.88\00:42:33.18
redemption and why Jesus came.
00:42:33.21\00:42:34.92
But Bible prophecy points to
this final showdown that occurs
00:42:34.95\00:42:38.15
just before Jesus comes.
00:42:38.19\00:42:40.29
And you're going to
have two groups in the world.
00:42:40.32\00:42:42.52
Those who love the Lord, keep
His commandments, they have the
00:42:42.56\00:42:45.03
seal of God, and those
who follow manmade tradition,
00:42:45.06\00:42:47.93
they have rejected the
commandments of God, they
00:42:47.96\00:42:50.00
end up with the
mark of the beast.
00:42:50.03\00:42:51.77
So two distinct groups
just before Jesus comes.
00:42:51.80\00:42:54.67
Doug: Now, Michael, I
detected in your question that
00:42:54.70\00:42:57.31
you are feeling some anxiety,
and God wants to give you peace.
00:42:57.34\00:43:02.38
And I think if you study the
subject I think you'll see that
00:43:02.41\00:43:05.71
the Book of Revelation
has a happy ending for those
00:43:05.75\00:43:09.48
that embrace Jesus.
00:43:09.52\00:43:11.72
And you shouldn't be frightened
by this when you, you know,
00:43:11.75\00:43:14.62
accept the Lord.
00:43:14.66\00:43:16.52
We're going to send you a study
on the mark of the beast, and it
00:43:16.56\00:43:18.66
ends with good news, and all you
have to do is call the number.
00:43:18.69\00:43:21.20
Please look at the
study and it gives you
00:43:21.23\00:43:22.63
all the
Scriptures on the subject--
00:43:22.66\00:43:24.43
anybody out there.
00:43:24.47\00:43:25.93
Jëan: Matter of
fact, you might want to ask
00:43:25.97\00:43:27.34
for the whole series.
00:43:27.37\00:43:28.67
That's just one study,
one lesson amongst many,
00:43:28.70\00:43:30.07
but you'll be blessed if
you go through the whole set.
00:43:30.11\00:43:31.54
It's all free.
00:43:31.57\00:43:32.87
Just ask for the
Amazing Facts Bible School.
00:43:32.91\00:43:34.58
The number to call
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00:43:34.61\00:43:38.68
You can ask for the
study on the mark of the beast,
00:43:38.71\00:43:40.35
but I'd encourage you
ask for all of the studies,
00:43:40.38\00:43:42.62
and they'll be
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00:43:42.65\00:43:44.45
Dial #250 if you have a
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00:43:44.49\00:43:47.96
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00:43:50.99\00:43:54.10
Thanks for your call.
00:43:54.13\00:43:55.50
We've got Sue,
listening in New York.
00:43:55.53\00:43:57.20
Sue, welcome to the program.
00:43:57.23\00:43:59.23
Sue: Hi, thank you.
Good night, pastors.
00:43:59.27\00:44:01.50
Doug: Evening.
00:44:01.54\00:44:03.10
Sue: I would just like
you to explain Mark 2:27,
00:44:03.14\00:44:07.04
which says the
Sabbath was made for man
00:44:07.08\00:44:11.21
and not man for
the Sabbath, please.
00:44:11.25\00:44:13.05
Thank you.
00:44:13.08\00:44:14.62
Doug: Yeah, well,
we'll read also verse 28.
00:44:14.65\00:44:16.22
"Therefore the son of man
is Lord also of the Sabbath."
00:44:16.25\00:44:19.19
This verse Jesus--you
always want the context.
00:44:19.22\00:44:22.62
The religious leaders were
giving the apostles a hard time
00:44:22.66\00:44:24.96
because they were
going through the fields
00:44:24.99\00:44:26.73
as they walked with Jesus.
00:44:26.76\00:44:28.43
They were grabbing
some of the heads of grain,
00:44:28.46\00:44:30.63
they'd rub them in their
hands, it was harvest time,
00:44:30.67\00:44:32.63
and they'd blow away the chaff.
00:44:32.67\00:44:34.04
They'd pop up in their mouth.
00:44:34.07\00:44:35.37
I see corn out of a
field, green sometimes.
00:44:35.40\00:44:40.74
And they're--the religious
leaders that were watching this
00:44:40.78\00:44:43.48
said, "Oh, they're harvesting."
00:44:43.51\00:44:45.28
Well, they weren't harvesting.
00:44:45.31\00:44:46.85
It was like picking an
apple on the Sabbath day.
00:44:46.88\00:44:48.45
It's not harvesting.
00:44:48.48\00:44:50.02
But they were very
legalistic and they said,
00:44:50.05\00:44:51.42
"You're harvesting."
00:44:51.45\00:44:52.89
And Jesus said, "No.
00:44:52.92\00:44:54.39
They're just--they're
gleaning a little food to eat."
00:44:54.42\00:44:56.96
And they were putting all these
manmade laws on the Sabbath like
00:44:56.99\00:44:59.59
the reason that man existed
was to serve the Sabbath.
00:44:59.63\00:45:03.77
And Jesus reminded them that man
was made first and the Sabbath
00:45:03.80\00:45:08.90
was made to be a blessing for
man 'cause man was made on the
00:45:08.94\00:45:14.08
sixth day, the Sabbath then
was made this period of time
00:45:14.11\00:45:17.61
to be a blessing for man
in his communion with God.
00:45:17.65\00:45:20.75
That's why he said the
Sabbath was made for man
00:45:20.78\00:45:22.72
and not man for the Sabbath.
00:45:22.75\00:45:24.69
So we shouldn't be legalistic
about Sabbath-keeping as the
00:45:24.72\00:45:27.92
Pharisees were, but
neither should we neglect it.
00:45:27.96\00:45:30.83
Jesus never said,
"Ignore the Sabbath.
00:45:30.86\00:45:32.63
It's done away with."
00:45:32.66\00:45:34.36
He said, "The son of
man is Lord of the Sabbath,
00:45:34.40\00:45:35.93
meaning I'm the one
that created the Sabbath."
00:45:35.96\00:45:38.13
And Jesus--all things that
were made were made by him.
00:45:38.17\00:45:40.47
He made it to be a
blessing, not a burden,
00:45:40.50\00:45:42.87
and that's simply
what he's teaching there.
00:45:42.90\00:45:44.84
Jëan: All right, thank you, Sue.
00:45:44.87\00:45:46.47
Next caller that we have
is Tim listening in Texas.
00:45:46.51\00:45:48.24
Tim, welcome to the program.
00:45:48.28\00:45:50.55
Tim: Hey, how you doing?
00:45:50.58\00:45:52.38
Doug: I'm doing
great, thank you.
00:45:52.41\00:45:54.18
And your call--your question?
00:45:54.22\00:45:56.05
Yeah.
00:45:56.08\00:45:57.75
Tim: Oh, my question is in
heaven talks about the tree
00:45:57.79\00:46:00.72
will be--the leaves will be
for the healing of the nations.
00:46:00.76\00:46:04.06
Why would there be
healing of the nations
00:46:04.09\00:46:05.63
if it's a perfect world?
00:46:05.66\00:46:07.23
Doug: Yeah, that's--
that is a good question.
00:46:07.30\00:46:10.10
You can also look
in the end of Ezekiel.
00:46:10.13\00:46:14.04
And Pastor Ross might find the
verse where it says--when you
00:46:14.07\00:46:16.44
type in the word medicine you'll
probably find it, and it says
00:46:16.47\00:46:18.74
the leaves of the tree will be
for medicine, and it's a similar
00:46:18.77\00:46:21.94
vision that Ezekiel has, a lot
of comparisons between Ezekiel
00:46:21.98\00:46:27.02
and Revelation in this respect.
00:46:27.05\00:46:31.15
Obviously nobody is going to get
sick in heaven and need to go,
00:46:31.19\00:46:35.29
you know, clawing or
crawling up to the tree of life
00:46:35.32\00:46:38.23
and rubbing the leaves in a
wound or something like that.
00:46:38.26\00:46:41.73
The way that I've understood
it is there's two things.
00:46:41.76\00:46:43.77
You notice it says
healing of the nations.
00:46:43.80\00:46:45.23
It doesn't say
healing of disease.
00:46:45.27\00:46:48.87
All the nations are divided
in this world by language
00:46:48.90\00:46:52.51
and culture and
politics and different things.
00:46:52.54\00:46:55.78
As God's redeemed gather
together under the tree, under
00:46:55.81\00:46:59.35
the leaves of that tree to eat
the fruit, all the divisions of
00:46:59.38\00:47:03.52
the nation will be healed,
and we will be one people.
00:47:03.55\00:47:07.32
So it's a
healing of the nations.
00:47:07.36\00:47:10.23
And when we're
resurrected, though we'll have
00:47:10.26\00:47:12.56
glorified bodies, man
has been stunted by sin.
00:47:12.59\00:47:17.57
And again, not only will we be
eating the fruit, it's possible
00:47:17.60\00:47:21.50
that maybe there'll be some
edible properties of the leaves
00:47:21.54\00:47:25.81
and they'll eat that and
grow up to the full stature,
00:47:25.84\00:47:28.08
'cause it does say in
Malachi, "They shall go forth
00:47:28.11\00:47:30.31
and grow up as
calves of the stall."
00:47:30.35\00:47:33.18
So we may even
increase in height.
00:47:33.21\00:47:36.22
And so I can't wait to get
to heaven and find out, but.
00:47:36.25\00:47:38.65
Jëan: Yeah, the verse
that it's--that's drawn from
00:47:38.69\00:47:41.12
in Revelation is
Ezekiel chapter 47, verse 12.
00:47:41.16\00:47:43.86
Doug: Yeah, okay, thank you.
00:47:43.89\00:47:45.46
Jëan: Talks about the leaves
of the trees used for medicine.
00:47:45.49\00:47:47.23
All right, good question, Tim.
00:47:47.23\00:47:48.66
Next caller that we
have is Joel in Tennessee.
00:47:48.70\00:47:50.53
Joel, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:47:50.57\00:47:53.54
Joel: Thank you
for taking my call.
00:47:53.57\00:47:55.14
My question regards
to Matthew 5, verse 19.
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Doug: Okay, I can
read it if you want.
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Joel: Yes, please.
00:48:03.08\00:48:05.41
Doug: "Whoever therefore
breaks one of the least of these
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commandments and teaches men
so, he'll be called least in the
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kingdom of heaven; but
whoever does and teaches them,
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he will be called great
in the kingdom of heaven."
00:48:14.69\00:48:17.43
So are you wondering
what that verse means?
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Joel: I was wondering are
there levels in--like, are there
00:48:20.56\00:48:23.50
levels or, like,
positions that people will have
00:48:23.53\00:48:25.57
when they get to heaven?
00:48:25.60\00:48:27.47
Doug: Yes, but that is
not taught by this verse.
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When I say will there be levels
it's not that God segregates us
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in heaven, but Jesus tells
us there are varying degrees
00:48:32.81\00:48:35.78
of reward both for
the saved and the lost.
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You know, Christ says that those
that knew their master's will
00:48:39.98\00:48:42.62
and did not do it are beaten
with many stripes while those
00:48:42.65\00:48:45.99
who did not know their master's
will but somehow disobeyed are
00:48:46.02\00:48:49.09
beaten with few stripes.
00:48:49.12\00:48:51.09
And the Bible also says,
"Great is your reward in heaven,
00:48:51.13\00:48:54.63
those who are persecuted
for righteousness sake."
00:48:54.66\00:48:56.70
So there's varying degrees of
reward, but this verse when it
00:48:56.73\00:48:59.50
says if you're teaching others
to break the commandment you'll
00:48:59.53\00:49:02.14
be called least in the kingdom,
that's not saying you're in the
00:49:02.17\00:49:05.04
kingdom and you're
going to be in low position.
00:49:05.07\00:49:07.31
It means the people in
the kingdom of God call that
00:49:07.34\00:49:11.51
individual the
lowest kind of person.
00:49:11.55\00:49:15.15
The people that teach
others to sin, not going to be
00:49:15.18\00:49:17.72
in the kingdom.
00:49:17.75\00:49:19.62
He's simply saying whoever
breaks the least of these
00:49:19.65\00:49:21.89
commandments and teaches
men so shall be called least.
00:49:21.92\00:49:25.66
Those in the kingdom of heaven
will call that person the lowest
00:49:25.69\00:49:29.56
kind of person.
00:49:29.60\00:49:31.13
So they're not going to be
in heaven, if anyone's teaching
00:49:31.17\00:49:34.10
people to sin.
00:49:34.14\00:49:36.40
Joel: I do have
another question.
00:49:36.44\00:49:37.87
It's about, like, pastors that
may not be all-knowing of the
00:49:37.91\00:49:42.98
truth or, like, if they
teach--like, if they're ignorant
00:49:43.01\00:49:46.65
of something and they teach
others to sin kind of, would
00:49:46.68\00:49:50.52
they still be in--like, I don't
know if that kind of ties in.
00:49:50.55\00:49:53.42
Doug: Yeah, well, yeah.
00:49:53.46\00:49:55.09
You know, when the apostles
first started teaching under
00:49:55.12\00:49:58.36
Jesus, they didn't have all
of their eschatology correct.
00:49:58.39\00:50:02.46
Even after the
resurrection, they said, "Lord,
00:50:02.50\00:50:04.73
will you at this time
establish the kingdom?"
00:50:04.77\00:50:07.64
And then even after Jesus
ascended to heaven, they didn't
00:50:07.67\00:50:10.71
think they were supposed
to preach to the Gentiles,
00:50:10.74\00:50:13.94
and so their
knowledge grew with time.
00:50:13.98\00:50:18.51
So, you know, I've preached
before and did evangelism and
00:50:18.55\00:50:22.52
lead people to the Lord, but
then later I realized, you know,
00:50:22.55\00:50:24.82
I said something that
actually wasn't accurate.
00:50:24.85\00:50:27.26
And I, of course, correct
that and I grow on my knowledge.
00:50:27.29\00:50:30.79
So I think if a pastor makes
a mistake--an honest mistake in
00:50:30.83\00:50:34.56
his teaching 'cause he really
believes something and he's just
00:50:34.56\00:50:36.87
misinformed, you know, God is
going to wink at that ignorance
00:50:36.90\00:50:39.67
and he'll bless the
ministry as much as he can.
00:50:39.70\00:50:42.44
I think there are godly
ministers in many churches that
00:50:42.47\00:50:45.07
are doing their best to lead
people to Christ and repentance
00:50:45.11\00:50:48.24
and faith and they may not
have all their theology square,
00:50:48.28\00:50:51.68
as I'm sure mine isn't perfect.
00:50:51.71\00:50:53.65
But what Jesus is saying
here in Matthew chapter 5:19
00:50:53.68\00:50:57.39
is different.
00:50:57.42\00:50:58.82
This is people teaching people
to disregard God's commandments.
00:50:58.85\00:51:02.36
Jëan: All right, thank
you for your call, Joel.
00:51:02.39\00:51:04.26
We've got Matthew
listening in Arizona.
00:51:04.29\00:51:05.93
Matthew, welcome to the program.
00:51:05.96\00:51:07.60
Matthew: How is
it going, pastors?
00:51:07.60\00:51:09.23
Blessings.
00:51:09.26\00:51:10.83
Doug: Thank you.
00:51:10.87\00:51:12.43
Matthew: The question is did
Noah preach to the whole world
00:51:12.47\00:51:14.97
being that the
whole world was flooded?
00:51:15.00\00:51:18.27
Doug: Yeah, but keep in mind
that in the time of Noah, while
00:51:18.31\00:51:22.74
there may have been hundreds
of thousands or even millions
00:51:22.78\00:51:25.45
of people that lived in the
world, I think they were mostly
00:51:25.48\00:51:30.19
restricted to one
section of the planet.
00:51:30.22\00:51:33.42
They had not
dispersed all over the planet.
00:51:33.46\00:51:36.22
And so, you know, wherever Noah
had the ark parked where he was
00:51:36.26\00:51:40.36
preaching, probably not too
far from the gates of the Garden
00:51:40.40\00:51:42.50
of Eden, that he was
preaching to the people.
00:51:42.53\00:51:46.23
He may have gone on a circuit
preaching during the 120 years
00:51:46.27\00:51:50.07
he was building the ark.
00:51:50.11\00:51:51.81
I don't know that he was a
global jet-setter back then
00:51:51.84\00:51:54.34
and that there were
people all over the planet.
00:51:54.38\00:51:56.91
So I don't know.
00:51:56.95\00:51:59.31
You got any thoughts on that?
00:51:59.35\00:52:00.95
Jëan: Yeah, but I
don't think it was just Noah
00:52:00.98\00:52:02.42
that was preaching.
00:52:02.45\00:52:03.75
There were others
who passed away bef--
00:52:03.79\00:52:05.09
Doug: Probably
Methuselah, Enoch.
00:52:05.12\00:52:06.42
Jëan:
Methuselah and others, yes.
00:52:06.45\00:52:07.76
Doug: Yeah.
00:52:07.79\00:52:09.09
Jëan: They lived
for hundreds of years.
00:52:09.12\00:52:10.49
So word got around, people would
speak, so even if it wasn't Noah
00:52:10.53\00:52:12.73
speaking, there were
others that testified saying
00:52:12.76\00:52:15.36
judgment is coming.
00:52:15.40\00:52:16.70
Doug: Yeah, maybe they
had the internet back then.
00:52:16.73\00:52:18.80
Jëan: Maybe, stuff
for communications.
00:52:18.83\00:52:21.44
Yeah, all right,
well, thank you, Matthew.
00:52:21.47\00:52:23.71
Next caller that we
have is Israel in California.
00:52:23.74\00:52:25.97
Israel, welcome to the program.
00:52:26.01\00:52:28.84
Israel: Hi, thank you, and
thank you for your ministry.
00:52:28.88\00:52:32.01
It's meant a lot to me.
00:52:32.05\00:52:33.58
Doug: Thank you.
00:52:33.62\00:52:35.02
Israel: My question is
concerning transgender theory.
00:52:35.05\00:52:38.55
Is there any way that it
correlates with the Bible?
00:52:38.59\00:52:41.22
Is there any way that
transgender and queer theory
00:52:41.26\00:52:44.33
some
denominations have accepted it?
00:52:44.36\00:52:48.43
What are your thoughts
on this as far as it relates
00:52:48.46\00:52:50.47
to the Scriptures?
00:52:50.50\00:52:51.97
Doug: Yeah,
well, I'll do my best.
00:52:52.00\00:52:53.50
And I guess I'm pretty
simplistic about it in that the
00:52:53.54\00:52:57.34
Bible says that in the beginning
God made the male and female.
00:52:57.37\00:53:02.14
Not only is that in
Genesis, Jesus quotes it.
00:53:02.18\00:53:05.05
That leaves two options
when it comes to gender.
00:53:05.08\00:53:07.32
You're male or you're female.
00:53:07.35\00:53:09.18
And in every human
body every female is stamped
00:53:09.22\00:53:14.72
with a XX chromosome,
00:53:14.76\00:53:17.99
while every male is
stamped with an XY chromosome.
00:53:18.03\00:53:21.30
So even if a person goes and
has some kind of reconstructive
00:53:21.33\00:53:25.80
surgery, their maleness
or femaleness is stamped
00:53:25.83\00:53:30.04
on the chromosomes, and
that's not changed by that.
00:53:30.07\00:53:32.74
God wants us to celebrate the
distinctions about being male
00:53:32.77\00:53:36.28
or being female.
00:53:36.31\00:53:37.78
Now, I--you know, my heart goes
out to people that struggle with
00:53:37.81\00:53:41.05
very strong
feelings towards sin,
00:53:41.08\00:53:45.22
whatever those
feelings might be.
00:53:45.25\00:53:46.79
Everyone struggles with
sin, but some people struggle
00:53:46.82\00:53:49.59
with how they feel
about being a boy or a girl.
00:53:49.62\00:53:53.03
And while I don't understand it,
my hearts go out--my heart goes
00:53:53.06\00:53:55.83
out to them, but I know that we
all need to bring our feelings
00:53:55.86\00:53:59.37
in harmony with the Word of God
and ask for God to transform us.
00:53:59.40\00:54:03.54
It's called conversion.
00:54:03.57\00:54:05.37
The world doesn't believe in
conversion theory, but God does.
00:54:05.41\00:54:09.84
And we can be new creatures.
00:54:09.88\00:54:12.95
The Bible is pretty clear.
00:54:12.98\00:54:14.88
Deuteronomy chapter
22, verse 5 the Lord says,
00:54:14.92\00:54:19.29
"A man shall not put
on the garment of a woman,
00:54:19.32\00:54:22.06
nor shall a woman
put on a man's garment.
00:54:22.09\00:54:24.56
All that do so are an
abomination to the Lord."
00:54:24.59\00:54:27.50
The Lord wants us to not
only celebrate but to preserve
00:54:27.56\00:54:31.13
the distinction
between men and women.
00:54:31.17\00:54:33.80
And in the last days the devil
is attacking every institution
00:54:33.84\00:54:37.21
that God established
in the Garden of Eden.
00:54:37.24\00:54:39.91
The devil is attacking.
00:54:39.94\00:54:41.68
Well, we've talked
about the Sabbath night.
00:54:41.71\00:54:43.28
He's attacking that day of rest,
00:54:43.31\00:54:44.75
and people are
working themselves to death.
00:54:44.78\00:54:46.25
The devil is attacking
family and the devil is even
00:54:46.28\00:54:49.12
attacking just the
distinction in the genders.
00:54:49.15\00:54:51.55
So everything you see
established in the Garden
00:54:51.59\00:54:53.52
of Eden is sort of
under attack right now,
00:54:53.56\00:54:56.26
and that would be part of it.
00:54:56.29\00:54:57.89
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All right, pastor, that
first caller that we have--
00:55:47.88\00:55:50.08
or first question
that's been emailed to us,
00:55:50.11\00:55:51.75
I should say, which of
the member of the Trinity
00:55:51.78\00:55:54.48
spoke to the prophets,
for example, Moses or Isaiah?
00:55:54.52\00:55:58.15
Doug: Well, when you say
which member of the Trinity,
00:55:58.19\00:55:59.89
Father, Son, and the Holy
Spirit, the Father typically
00:55:59.92\00:56:02.42
communicates to us through
the Son and through the Spirit.
00:56:02.46\00:56:06.36
There are a few times
where you had what they call a
00:56:06.39\00:56:08.90
Christophany, where it seems
that Jesus may have been the one
00:56:08.93\00:56:12.37
that actually wrestled
with Jacob and Jesus who spoke
00:56:12.40\00:56:15.70
to Moses and Jesus
who met with Abraham.
00:56:15.74\00:56:19.14
So there are examples
of Christ himself coming
00:56:19.17\00:56:22.18
to earth and speaking.
00:56:22.21\00:56:24.11
Most of the time God
spoke through the Holy Spirit.
00:56:24.15\00:56:27.38
And I think it says
that through the Spirit,
00:56:27.42\00:56:29.32
God spoke to the prophets.
00:56:29.35\00:56:30.89
Jëan: Holy men of old, yeah.
00:56:30.92\00:56:32.22
Doug: Holy men of old
spoke as they were moved
00:56:32.25\00:56:33.56
by the Holy Spirit.
00:56:33.59\00:56:34.82
So in most cases it would be the
function of the third person of
00:56:34.86\00:56:39.19
the Godhead, the Holy
Spirit, to communicate the will
00:56:39.23\00:56:42.00
and the mind of
God to the prophets
00:56:42.03\00:56:43.77
and the
patriarchs and the kings.
00:56:43.80\00:56:45.53
Jëan: All right, very good.
00:56:45.57\00:56:47.00
Pastor Doug, here's a question.
00:56:47.04\00:56:48.34
Galatians 2:18 is the verse.
00:56:48.37\00:56:50.61
And the person is asking
about what law is being referred
00:56:50.64\00:56:54.34
to here in
Galatians chapter 2, verse 18.
00:56:54.38\00:56:57.31
Doug: All right, now, I
think we need to read more
00:56:57.35\00:56:58.91
than just verse 18.
00:56:58.95\00:57:00.35
It says in verse 17, "But if,
while we seek to be justified
00:57:00.38\00:57:04.25
by Christ, we ourselves are
also found sinners, is Christ
00:57:04.29\00:57:07.62
therefore a minister of sin?
00:57:07.66\00:57:09.26
Certainly not.
00:57:09.29\00:57:10.89
For if I build again
the things that I destroyed,
00:57:10.93\00:57:12.73
I make myself a transgressor."
00:57:12.76\00:57:14.30
That's verse 18.
00:57:14.30\00:57:15.70
"For I through the law died
to the law that I might get--
00:57:15.73\00:57:19.43
might live unto God."
00:57:19.47\00:57:21.47
Well, of course, according to
the law we're all guilty of sin.
00:57:21.50\00:57:24.71
We are
condemned through the law.
00:57:24.74\00:57:26.91
The penalty for sin is death.
00:57:26.94\00:57:29.04
But when we come to
Christ, we die to self.
00:57:29.08\00:57:32.01
That's what Paul
is talking about.
00:57:32.05\00:57:33.42
We take up our
cross and we follow Jesus
00:57:33.45\00:57:35.68
and we're dead to law
and we're dead to the pen--
00:57:35.72\00:57:39.25
now, it doesn't mean
we don't disobey the law,
00:57:39.29\00:57:41.46
but we're dead to
the penalty of the law
00:57:41.49\00:57:43.19
through the sacrifice of Jesus.
00:57:43.22\00:57:45.09
Now, we live lives of obedience
through the power of Christ.
00:57:45.13\00:57:48.80
Jëan: Okay.
00:57:48.83\00:57:50.37
Doug: We're not doing
it because it's the law,
00:57:50.40\00:57:51.70
but because we love the Lord.
00:57:51.73\00:57:53.03
Jëan: Amen. All
right, last question.
00:57:53.07\00:57:54.47
How do you respond to somebody
if they keep telling you that,
00:57:54.50\00:57:56.44
"Well, that's just your
understanding of the verse?"
00:57:56.47\00:57:59.11
Doug: Well, Peter
warns against those who have
00:57:59.14\00:58:01.04
a private interpretation.
00:58:01.08\00:58:03.21
We shouldn't all be coming
to our own feelings about it.
00:58:03.24\00:58:06.28
We need to compare
Scripture with Scripture.
00:58:06.31\00:58:08.95
And I believe when you do that,
that's how you find evidence
00:58:08.98\00:58:12.35
to arrive at truth.
00:58:12.39\00:58:14.39
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