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Would you like to
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The largest aircraft that ever
flew was the Antonov 225 Mriya.
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Mriya means dream in Ukrainian.
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The aircraft was a modern
engineering marvel featuring six
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massive turbofan engines
each as big as a cement mixer.
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With an overall size that
stretches far as a football
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field from nose to
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the An-225 could carry
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That's twice as much
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It was designed and built in
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transport the Soviet space
shuttle, and it took its maiden
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flight on December 21, 1988.
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Because it had a maximum takeoff
weight of up to 1.32 million
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pounds, the An-225 had
32 landing wheels, with 20
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of them that were steerable.
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The monster aircraft made its
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landing at the 1989 Paris
Air Show with a Russian space
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shuttle on its back.
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Sadly, only one An-225
was made, and it was destroyed
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by the Russian
missiles in February 2022.
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Anyone who ever saw this
behemoth fly will never forget
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the sensation of wonder that
something so heavy and massive
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could travel
gracefully through the air.
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You know, Pastor Ross, the
Bible speaks of an even larger
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transport that will
someday go through the skies.
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Jean Ross: That's
right, Pastor Doug.
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And no need for, you know,
turboprop engines to move this
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object through the sky.
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But the Bible does speak of a
city that's going to be coming
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from heaven to earth, and
of course that city is called
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the New Jerusalem.
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Doug: Yeah, and you
can read about that.
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If you look in Revelations 21,
verse 2 and 3 it says, "Then I,
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John, saw the holy city, New
Jerusalem, coming down out of
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heaven from God, prepared as
a bride adorned for her husband.
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And I heard a voice from heaven
saying, 'Behold, the tabernacle
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of God is with men, and he will
dwell with them, and they will
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be His people.
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And God Himself will be
with them and be their God.'"
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You know, it's just--it's
difficult sometimes for
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people to imagine a city
floating through the sky.
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Well, it's not as difficult
maybe as it used to be because
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we've got a space station
up there in the sky right now.
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And if man can do
it, then why would
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we think God couldn't do it?
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So it is real.
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God has a real city in space
that is going to come down out
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of heaven to the earth,
and He wants you in the city.
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We have a special lesson
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Jean: That's right.
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You know, before we get to
the Bible questions, it's always
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important for us to
begin with prayer because
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we're talking about God's book.
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And if we're going to understand
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the Holy Spirit to be with us.
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So let's do that.
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Dear Father, we
thank You for Your Word.
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We thank You for the opportunity
that we have to be able to
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study and learn, and
we do ask Your blessing.
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Send the Spirit that inspired
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with us, Lord.
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Be with those who are listening
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In Jesus's name, amen.
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Doug: Amen.
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All right, we're ready
to go to the phone lines.
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Our first caller for this
evening is Elijah listening
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in Washington.
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Elijah, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Elijah: Hello, pastors.
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Thank you guys
for taking my call.
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Doug: Well, thanks for calling.
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Elijah: So my question was,
during Jesus's ministry on earth
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here, did he remember his
position in heaven in creating
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the world and walking in
the garden with Adam and Eve
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and all those things?
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That was my question.
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And if he did or if he
didn't, is there a reason why?
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Which I'm sure there
is a reason why, but--
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Doug: Well,
that's a good question.
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Let's talk about
that for a minute.
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So I think you would agree,
Elijah, that when Jesus was born
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as a baby and he looked up
at his mother and his father, he
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did not have all of the
knowledge of life and his
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pre-incarnate existence in his
mind or he would've come forth
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into the world speaking.
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He had to learn to speak.
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That means he
didn't know everything.
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He probably had to learn to
walk like a normal child, and it
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seems that as he needed to know
something his Father in heaven
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would reveal it to him.
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Now, did he know
something of his pre-existence?
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Yes.
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Because he told the religious
leaders, "Before Abraham was,
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I am."
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So he knew something, and he
says, you know, "Abraham longed
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to see my day and he saw it."
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So I think that
Jesus understood something.
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I'm not sure that at the time
he was living on the earth and
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walking around it he had all the
knowledge of the creation and
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everything through eternity
in his mind, but--I don't know.
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I mean, it just doesn't say.
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Jean: You know, just to add
to that, Pastor Doug, one time
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the disciples asked Jesus, they
said when is he coming back; and
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Jesus said, "No man
knows the day or the hour.
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Only the Father in heaven."
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So at that point, the specifics
hadn't been revealed to Christ.
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Obviously, now he
does. He's with the Father.
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So they were some things, like
you mentioned, that they were
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revealed to Christ as
needed by the Holy Spirit.
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Doug: Yeah, so yeah,
hopefully that helps, Elijah.
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Good question.
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Jean: All right, we've got
Edward listening in Arizona.
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Edward, welcome to the program.
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Edward: Hey. How
are you doing, pastors?
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Doug: Doing wonderful.
Thank you for calling.
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Edward: Thank you
guys for accepting my call.
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If you're schizoaffectious,
do you have to overcome the
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schizoaffective
disorder for your place,
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I mean, in the kingdom of God?
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And if so, how
do you overcome it?
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Doug: Well, the Lord meets us
where we're at, and--you know,
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I'm not saying that medical
conditions can't be overcome
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because of course Jesus
can heal physical, mental,
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psychological illnesses.
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But that doesn't mean that a
person that may be struggling
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with these things will always be
healed, and it doesn't mean that
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something--you know, some
medical condition you're born
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with is going to
keep you from the kingdom.
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I think God expects us to
surrender to Him, to trust Him,
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we're saved by faith, and to
walk in the light as we have it
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and--any thoughts on that?
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Jean: Absolutely.
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You know, as we come to Christ,
we can give ourselves completely
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to him and say, "Lord, you know,
give me the strength to change
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those things I can change and
then give me the courage and the
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faith to accept
those things that I can't."
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And place it in your
hand and believe that you
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will work things out.
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So it's a
corporative relationship.
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We're trusting in God to do the
work that only He can do, but we
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are surrendering
ourselves to Him.
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Doug: Yeah. Does
that make sense, Gary?
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I'm sorry. Edward?
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Edward: Yeah,
that does make sense.
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Doug: Okay.
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Well, you just keep trusting
Jesus and ask him to help you
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grow in grace and victory and,
you know, always pray that he
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can heal you because I never
underestimate God's ability
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to heal and to transform.
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That's the new birth.
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Jean: All right.
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Next caller that we have
is Gary listening in Illinois.
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Gary, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Gary: In the church it's
often said as God protected
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Israel during the plagues
we'll be protected, but I see
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in Matthew 24, verse 13
he who endures to the end
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will be saved.
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It implies that we're suffering
because we are enduring.
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And then, again, in verse 22,
"But for the elect's sake these
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days will be shortened."
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It, again, implies that
we're suffering, and I think
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it's already happening.
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In Illinois we've got tornados
2 and 3 miles wide travel
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for hundreds of miles.
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So my question is,
is God protecting us
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or what's going on?
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Doug: Well, it's a mix,
and let me use a Bible example.
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The children of Israel who
went through the ten plagues in
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Egypt, God protected them
through the last seven plagues,
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but they also experienced the
same calamity as the Egyptians
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for--through the
first three plagues.
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So in the last days when the
seven last plagues fall, God is
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going to protect His people.
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I don't think what you're seeing
now are the seven last plagues
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because once the seven
last plagues begin probation is
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closed and no one's
going to be saved after that.
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So do Christians, the
righteous sometimes suffer along
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with the wicked?
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Yeah, that's
always been the case.
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God does love and also
watches over His people.
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But, you know, in times of trial
believers often testify by their
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faith through trial, not because
He saves us from every trial.
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And we grow
patience through trial.
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Jean: All
right. Thank you, Gary.
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We've got Junith
listening in Nevada.
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Junith, welcome to the program.
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Junith: Hello.
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A blessed evening,
Pastor Ross and Pastor Doug.
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Can you hear me?
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Doug: Yes.
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Junith: Yes? Okay, wonderful.
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Thank you for taking my call.
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My question is, did Jesus come
to the world through the cruel
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cross of Calvary not just to
bring back his perfect circle of
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love and his perfect shalom to
earth--the planet earth but also
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he did it because--to restore
the same circle of his love and
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shalom to the whole universe
because in assassinating his
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character by Lucifer the
holy angels did not understand.
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Can you please explain further
more in that perspective?
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Thank you.
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Doug: Yeah.
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So yes, Jesus--one of the things
that Christ did by his death is
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to restore a better
image of the character of God.
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That's why Jesus
said, "If you've seen me,
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you've seen the Father."
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He said he came to reveal
the Father among other things.
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He also came as our sacrifice,
and he also is restoring peace
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not only to the planet.
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It says he's going to make
a new heaven and a new earth.
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All things that were made were
made by Jesus, meaning he made
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the first heaven and earth;
and then after the wicked are
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judged, he creates a
new heaven and a new earth.
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And so there'll be a total
restoration and Satan and his
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angels and all the
wicked are going to be destroyed
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with an everlasting
fire, meaning they're burnt up
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forever and the universe
has no more pain, sorrow.
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All things are made new.
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So it's a total restoration
of His original plan,
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but it's actually an upgrade.
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Jean: You know, the Bible
also tells us that when that
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time comes, when the judgment
has been taking place and
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everybody sees the truth, every
knee will bow and every tongue
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will confess that
Jesus Christ is Lord.
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There's no
exceptions to that rule,
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so that will
include both the angels.
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Even the devil himself will
acknowledge that God is fair and
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just in what He has done.
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Now, that doesn't mean
it's genuine conversion or
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repentance, but there is
an acknowledgment of God's
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character and
that'll be manifested right
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at the end of time.
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Doug: Thank you.
Appreciate that, Junith.
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Jean: All right, we got
Brad listening in California.
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Brad, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Brad: My question pertains
to Psalms 137, verse 1, and it's
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kind of a two-part question.
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I was wondering--I was always
under the impression that when
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David went to his grave, that
he passed his blessing on to
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Solomon and he thought that the
throne would be established in
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his bloodline forever yet in
Psalms 137:1 he's writing the
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song that the Israelites sang
when they were taken captive in
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Babylon, and I was
wondering--I'm trying to wrap my
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head around that.
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Did he know that Israel would
eventually be taken captive
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and not tell his son?
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Doug: Yeah.
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First of all, you know,
Jesus, Brad, didn't--I'm sorry.
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David did not
write all of the psalms.
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David wrote about 70,
maybe 71 of the psalms.
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The later psalms are written by
some of his musicians and others
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like Asaph, and
it talks about them.
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You'll notice that
some of the psalms will say
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a Psalm of David, and
then some of them, like 137,
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it's talking about Babylon.
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This is a psalm
that was probably written
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following the captivity.
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Isn't that your
understanding, Pastor Ross, that
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they're--because it's saying,
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"By the rivers
of Babylon we wept."
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This is after they had
been captured by Nebuchadnezzar.
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It's one of the later psalms.
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And so I don't know if
that helps with your question
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just to know that David
probably didn't write this one.
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Brad: Yeah.
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I was always under the
impression that the whole book
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of Psalms was written
before Solomon took the throne.
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Doug: I used to think that
all the psalms were written by
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David because so many of them
began the Psalm of David, the
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Psalm of David like Psalm 23.
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But one psalm is
written by Moses.
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I think--is it 90 or 91?
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It's written by Moses,
and many are by Solomon,
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some are by Asaph.
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But David wrote about
70 as near as we can tell.
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So just about half.
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This is probably not one
because it's talking about the
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Babylonian captivity that
happened many generations.
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Now, it is true that the
son of David--all the sons of
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David--that was kept in the
genealogy; and it mentions this
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in Matthew, that Jesus is a
direct descendant of David and
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Solomon and that he is
the ultimate son of David
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that would reign forever.
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So the line of the
Davidic promise and the covenant
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to David did not fail.
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Some of the kings did not
reign between the Babylonian
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captivity and Christ.
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I think even Zerubbabel
was a descendant of David.
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So briefly they had a governor.
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But anyway, hope
that helps a little bit.
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Thanks so much.
Appreciate that, Brad.
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Jean: All right.
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Next caller that we have
is Mark listening in Alaska.
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Mark, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Mark: Hey. How is
it going, pastors?
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Thanks a got--a lot
for you guys' passion.
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I really enjoy your
interpretations, and I really
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enjoy listening to you guys
sometimes because it helps me
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with my interpretations.
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Doug: Well, thank you.
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We appreciate it, and
glad we could be of service.
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And your question tonight?
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Mark: Yeah, I had a
question on 13--Matthew 13:44,
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and it talks about
the treasure--the kingdom
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is like a
treasure hidden in a field.
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And maybe I'm wrong,
but it seems to me that--my
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understanding is the
treasure ain't hidden.
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I think maybe I'm
wrong, but--maybe correct me.
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I think that Jesus is saying
this treasure that is hidden
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is the synagogue of
Satan and they're in unity
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and they're hard workers.
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The secular civil government,
they're such hard workers.
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Don't you think that maybe Jesus
was saying look at these people.
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If the Christians could only
work as hard as these people--
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Doug: Okay, let's
take a stab at it.
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Now, I'm going to
read this for our friends
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who are listening, Mark.
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A lot of folks are driving down
the road and they can't look it
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up, and this is in
Matthew chapter 13, verse 44.
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"Again, the kingdom of heaven
is like a treasure hidden in a
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field, which a man found and
hid; and for joy over it he goes
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and sells all that he
has and buys the field."
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Now, it is true that there
are people in the world that are
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very diligent workers.
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But I think the
picture in this parable--let me
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just back you up.
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In Bible times, they did
not have banks as we do today.
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And if people
wanted to go shopping,
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they'd get their money.
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They didn't always keep it
in the house because--maybe
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a little bit
because people could rob it.
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And it was very common for
people to bury their treasures
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somewhere on their property,
and it will often happen that
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someone would die and
someone else would find it.
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Now, right here in
Northern California
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we had someone up the road.
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They were out walking their dog
and they found cans--some like
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5-gallon old cans
filled with gold coins
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from the San Francisco Mint.
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They're worth a
fortune, millions of dollars
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they found on their land.
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Now this man he's leasing land
and he's out plowing the land
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and he uproots someone's
treasure, and it says and he hid
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it, means--he thought, "Oh,
man, I know this field is very
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valuable to get treasure."
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He could just steal the
treasure, but he doesn't.
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He's honest.
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He says, "I'm going to buy the
field, then I own the treasure."
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So he cover it up.
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It says he goes
and he buys the field.
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He's willing to sell
everything to get the field.
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This is talking about really
somebody who discovers the good
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news of the gospel and
they realize its value,
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and they sell
everything to get it.
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Now, this parable is very much
like the one follows about a
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merchant who finds a
beautiful pearl of great price
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and he sells everything
to get this one pearl.
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The point is Jesus is saying
they were willing to give all
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for the treasure, and we
need to be willing to--he says,
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"If you don't forsake all, take
up your cross and follow me,
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you're not worthy."
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That means we give
God 100% of our heart.
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He said we need to love Him more
than our father, mother, sister,
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brother, husband, wife.
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We need to love Him first.
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And so this is one of the
many parables that talks about
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it's worth
everything to follow Christ.
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Jean: All
right. Thank you, Mark.
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We've got Anna
listening in Oregon.
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Anna, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
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Anna: Evening,
pastors. Doug: Evening.
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Anna: My question is about
jewelry and what the Bible says
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about it, but in
particular wearing a cross.
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Is that a form of,
like, idol worship?
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Doug: Well, I would say--you
know, certainly there's going to
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be a lot of people in heaven
that wear crosses, but there's
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really no command in the
Bible that says to wear a cross.
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We're told to bear
the cross, and--you know,
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the cross was a--it's
an instrument of torture.
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So I don't know that
the--anywhere in the Bible had
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ever told us to make crosses
and bow to them and everything.
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And I realized that--you know,
Paul says, "I'm determined to
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know nothing among you but
Jesus Christ and him crucified,
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and I'll glory in the cross."
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And that means the
sacrifice of Christ.
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But sometimes we sort of make
an idol out of the icon of the
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cross and we're not really
told to do that in the Bible.
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Now, that--you know,
that could be lumped together
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with the idea of jewelry.
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And, you know, folks that have
listened to me for years know
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that I think that there
are commands in the Bible that
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say--and principles that
say that Christians should avoid
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wearing jewelry and artificial
ornamentation not only because
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it's cost and the display,
but there's some Scriptures like
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where Peter says
let the adorning not
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be the outward adorning.
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I think this is
1 Peter chapter 3.
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Don't let it be the
outward adorning the wearing
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of gold or apparel.
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Paul says let it not be gold
and pearls and costly array.
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Let it be modest, and--then in
Isaiah talks about the daughters
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of Babylon that go around with,
you know, swishing as they go
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wearing, and he talks
about a number of jewelry items;
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earrings and so
forth, nose rings.
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And I think Christians
are best known by simplicity.
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A few years ago a lot of
televangelists got into trouble
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with various scandals and the
world was having fun making fun
00:20:45.64\00:20:48.94
of the televangelists, and
many of them were prosperity
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preachers that wore just a lot
of gaudy jewelry and makeup and
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they were mocked
because of their appearance.
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So I advocate that the Bible
teaches Christians ought to be
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modest--clean and neat, modest.
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It doesn't mean we need to wear
rags, but I think we ought to
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avoid any kind of ornamentation.
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And, again, there's nowhere--I
know people think wearing
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a cross is good luck.
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Well, that's idolatry. You
know, there's no good luck.
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It's not a
chicken bone or something
00:21:17.94\00:21:19.51
that--or rabbit's foot.
00:21:19.54\00:21:20.98
So yeah, just letting
people know you're a Christian
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is the best thing.
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Now, I do have a book
that actually talks about this.
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It's called "Jewelry:
How Much Is Too Much?"
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Jean: And we'll be happy
to send that to anyone here
00:21:31.69\00:21:33.46
in North America,
in the US or in Canada.
00:21:33.49\00:21:35.62
The number to call
for that is 800-835-6747.
00:21:35.66\00:21:39.56
You can ask for the book called
"Jewelry: How Much Is Too Much?"
00:21:39.59\00:21:43.33
You can also just dial
#250 on your smartphone, say
00:21:43.37\00:21:47.50
"Bible Answers Live," and then
you can also ask for the book
00:21:47.54\00:21:49.77
that way as well.
00:21:49.80\00:21:51.37
If you have a Bible question,
our phone line here in the
00:21:51.41\00:21:53.27
studio is 800-463-7297.
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We got Philip
listening in Arkansas.
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Philip, welcome to the program.
00:21:58.91\00:22:01.68
Philip: Hi. Good evening.
00:22:01.72\00:22:03.05
Thanks for taking my call.
00:22:03.08\00:22:04.55
Doug: Yes, thank you.
00:22:04.59\00:22:05.95
Philip: Revelation--yeah, I
have a question on Revelation
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13:13 through 14.
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Do you guys think that the signs
and wonders and miracles part of
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the--that the second beast
performs on the sight of the
00:22:14.63\00:22:18.07
first beast, has that
started to become fulfilled yet?
00:22:18.10\00:22:21.87
And if so, do you think
AI plays any type of role
00:22:21.90\00:22:25.17
with technology in the end?
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Doug: That's a
fascinating question.
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I've been thinking a
lot about AI this weekend.
00:22:28.91\00:22:31.85
I'll even make a public
confession that I tried to
00:22:31.88\00:22:35.65
manufacture my first AI picture.
00:22:35.68\00:22:38.85
Well, I did.
00:22:38.89\00:22:40.19
I didn't do it, but I used one
of the online programs to see if
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it would produce a picture
of angels flying through heaven
00:22:42.92\00:22:45.33
and it did.
00:22:45.36\00:22:47.40
Pretty kind of rough, but it
did and I think, "Boy, this is a
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scary technology."
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Do I think that's
the signs and wonders?
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No.
00:22:53.44\00:22:54.80
The second beast is
alive and well today.
00:22:54.84\00:22:57.14
I don't think that it's using
the signs and wonders it's going
00:22:57.17\00:23:00.68
to use to manipulate the first
beast and the rest of the world
00:23:00.71\00:23:04.58
yet because the spiritual
issue haven't really matured.
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I don't know if you have any
thoughts on that, Pastor Ross.
00:23:08.38\00:23:10.65
Jean: Yeah, when it
talks about it, one of
00:23:10.69\00:23:11.99
the signs specifically
mentioned is it talks about
00:23:12.02\00:23:13.72
fire coming down from heaven
that the second beast will do;
00:23:13.76\00:23:16.96
and we know from the
Bible fire coming down from
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heaven is often associated
with the Spirit of God or a
00:23:19.49\00:23:22.13
counterfeit of
the Spirit of God.
00:23:22.16\00:23:24.60
It can be a blessing
or it could be a judgment.
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So what we find in the last
days is there's this religious
00:23:26.90\00:23:29.57
movement, and it appears as
though God's blessing is on it.
00:23:29.60\00:23:33.81
There's the--fires
coming out from heaven.
00:23:33.84\00:23:35.44
There's much emphasis on
the Holy Spirit and miracles and
00:23:35.48\00:23:39.01
wonders, and it's
not the Spirit of God.
00:23:39.05\00:23:41.72
It's a counterfeit spirit that
is leading people astray in the
00:23:41.75\00:23:44.02
last days, and that power
working with the political power
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described as the
second beast in Revelation 13
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sets things up at the end.
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Doug: Yeah.
00:23:51.76\00:23:52.99
Yeah, we remember in the story
of Elijah that the great proof
00:23:53.03\00:23:55.50
that God was with Elijah is
that fire came down from heaven.
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So what's the world going to
think when all of a sudden the
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great proof that Elijah uses now
being used by the counterfeit?
00:24:02.00\00:24:05.07
It's going to be very deceptive.
Well, hope that helps a little.
00:24:05.11\00:24:08.61
Thanks so much.
We got 2 minutes.
00:24:08.64\00:24:10.01
Can we do one
more before our break?
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Jean: We got Lee
listening in Texas.
00:24:11.51\00:24:12.81
Lee, welcome to the program.
00:24:12.85\00:24:14.78
Lee: Yes, I was calling
because I was supposed to
00:24:14.82\00:24:16.75
be re-baptized on Easter,
00:24:16.79\00:24:19.69
but being--but I've been
baptized four times in my life
00:24:19.72\00:24:22.86
and being baptized
again on Easter would
00:24:22.89\00:24:24.89
have been my fifth time.
00:24:24.93\00:24:26.76
My pas--the pastor that was
going to do it said it's not
00:24:26.80\00:24:29.70
necessary being that I've
been baptized so many times.
00:24:29.73\00:24:32.93
Do I still need to
be re-baptized again
00:24:32.97\00:24:34.97
or is it not necessary?
00:24:35.00\00:24:37.24
Doug: Well, let me tell you,
there's three principal reasons
00:24:37.27\00:24:40.64
a person might be re-baptized.
00:24:40.68\00:24:43.55
One would be if they've
never been baptized biblically
00:24:43.58\00:24:46.75
by immersion.
00:24:46.78\00:24:48.18
Some people are baptized as
babies and they just didn't know
00:24:48.22\00:24:50.35
what was going on, or they've
been sprinkled and the Bible
00:24:50.39\00:24:52.82
is very clear we should
be immersed in the water.
00:24:52.85\00:24:55.99
That's what the
word baptized means.
00:24:56.02\00:24:57.83
Another reason to be re-baptized
would be if you've come into
00:24:57.86\00:25:01.26
just a whole new understanding
of what the truth is, and an
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example of that would be Acts 19
where it says these 12--you read
00:25:04.57\00:25:09.40
the first few verses,
these 12 Ephesian believers,
00:25:09.44\00:25:12.74
they had heard
about John the Baptist.
00:25:12.77\00:25:15.18
They got baptized by immersion.
00:25:15.21\00:25:16.81
But they had not
heard about Jesus.
00:25:16.85\00:25:18.51
They had left town before
they heard about that and the
00:25:18.55\00:25:20.72
outpouring of the Spirit.
00:25:20.75\00:25:22.15
Paul preached them all this
new truth they'd missed and they
00:25:22.18\00:25:24.95
said, "We want to
get baptized again."
00:25:24.99\00:25:26.52
And they were and they were
filled with the Holy Spirit.
00:25:26.55\00:25:28.92
Third reason to be re-baptized
would be is--you've kind of
00:25:28.96\00:25:32.46
divorced yourself from the Lord.
00:25:32.49\00:25:35.96
It doesn't mean, you know--so
you're baptized and then you sin
00:25:36.00\00:25:39.83
and you make a mistake, you got
to run and get baptized again.
00:25:39.87\00:25:42.34
Well, we'd all be
getting baptized every week
00:25:42.37\00:25:44.64
if that was the case.
00:25:44.67\00:25:46.41
So--but if a person is
totally--they've stopped
00:25:46.44\00:25:49.44
going to church.
00:25:49.48\00:25:50.78
They've backslidden.
00:25:50.81\00:25:52.28
And it's not that they get
discouraged for a week or two
00:25:52.31\00:25:54.95
but the tenor of their life they
sort of divorce themselves from
00:25:54.98\00:25:57.55
the church and the Lord, when
they return it would probably be
00:25:57.59\00:26:01.82
appropriate to be re-baptized
but not in every case and
00:26:01.86\00:26:05.33
it--there's variables.
00:26:05.36\00:26:07.13
Now, how often should
a person be re-baptized?
00:26:07.13\00:26:09.46
Well, it's like marriage.
00:26:09.50\00:26:11.33
You know, you--if a person says,
"I've been married ten times,"
00:26:11.37\00:26:14.04
well, you think
there's a problem there.
00:26:14.07\00:26:16.57
It's a sacred ordinance, and
you don't want to be doing it
00:26:16.60\00:26:20.01
carelessly or frequently.
00:26:20.04\00:26:22.38
So it should be done with
great care, and that covenant
00:26:22.41\00:26:26.51
should be protected.
00:26:26.55\00:26:29.08
Sometimes a person could just
go through the communion service
00:26:29.12\00:26:31.52
and that will serve
like a mini baptism,
00:26:31.55\00:26:35.29
and it gives them--gives
all of us a new beginning.
00:26:35.32\00:26:38.23
So I hope that
helps a little bit.
00:26:38.26\00:26:40.03
And we do have a book on
"Baptism: Is It Necessary?"
00:26:40.06\00:26:42.80
Lee, you can get a free copy.
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Jean: Just call
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Call Amazing Facts, and we'll
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00:26:46.23\00:26:48.20
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00:26:48.24\00:26:51.04
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Jean: My name is Jean Ross,
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We're going to go
to Joan in Australia.
00:30:37.83\00:30:40.67
Joan, welcome to the program.
00:30:40.70\00:30:42.24
Joan: Hello, how are you?
00:30:42.27\00:30:43.61
Doug: Hi, doing
good. Thanks for calling.
00:30:43.64\00:30:45.44
Joan: My question
comes today from 2 Kings 5.
00:30:45.47\00:30:48.88
It's the story of Captain
Naaman and--with the prophet
00:30:48.91\00:30:52.58
Elijah--Elisha and Gehazi,
and I just want to--if you
00:30:52.61\00:30:57.82
could help me paint the picture.
00:30:57.85\00:31:02.26
Gehazi went accepted by lie
a payment, went back and the
00:31:02.29\00:31:09.96
prophet said, "Did my
heart not go with you as it now
00:31:10.00\00:31:14.74
that you accept payment?"
00:31:14.77\00:31:16.97
And then Prophet Elisha
says, "Captain Naaman's leprosy
00:31:17.01\00:31:23.35
will now be with you."
00:31:23.38\00:31:26.08
And he walked out as
white as snow, Gehazi.
00:31:26.11\00:31:28.95
So as the story goes on in
the Bible with Elisha, it also
00:31:28.98\00:31:34.19
continues with Gehazi.
00:31:34.22\00:31:36.79
So I was just thinking--so does
he continue working with the
00:31:36.83\00:31:41.03
prophet as white
as snow, with leprosy?
00:31:41.06\00:31:45.13
Doug: Yeah. No.
00:31:45.17\00:31:46.47
I think the next time you
see Gehazi he may be--well,
00:31:46.50\00:31:48.17
there's two possible times.
00:31:48.20\00:31:50.11
There are four
lepers in 2 Kings chapter 6.
00:31:50.14\00:31:54.28
They're in 2 Kings
chapter 7 during a famine,
00:31:54.31\00:31:57.85
and Josephus is one of
those four lepers that said,
00:31:57.88\00:32:01.42
"We're not doing what is right.
This is a day of good news."
00:32:01.45\00:32:04.19
May have been Gehazi.
00:32:04.22\00:32:06.42
Later you see Gehazi, he's
talking to the king and telling
00:32:06.45\00:32:09.29
the king about the
miracles of Elisha.
00:32:09.32\00:32:13.23
And a person might say, "Well,
if he's got leprosy, what's he
00:32:13.26\00:32:14.83
doing talking to the king?"
00:32:14.83\00:32:16.87
Well, there's a few
different possibilities.
00:32:16.90\00:32:18.73
One is that he was
later healed and forgiven.
00:32:18.77\00:32:22.40
Doesn't say that in the Bible.
00:32:22.44\00:32:24.11
The other is even people
with leprosy could communicate,
00:32:24.14\00:32:28.08
but they had to
keep a certain distance.
00:32:28.11\00:32:29.88
And so maybe he was
talking to the king.
00:32:29.91\00:32:32.31
It was some distance between
them because he was unclean.
00:32:32.35\00:32:36.69
That's a difficult
scenario to imagine.
00:32:36.72\00:32:40.02
So--you know, we can only
speculate, but Gehazi does
00:32:40.06\00:32:43.89
appear later in the
story after he gets leprosy.
00:32:43.93\00:32:48.33
He's talking to the
king and telling about
00:32:48.36\00:32:49.86
the miracles of Elisha.
00:32:49.90\00:32:51.37
So he may have been
healed. It's hard to say.
00:32:51.40\00:32:53.67
Joan: Yeah, and the
other one last story was the
00:32:53.70\00:32:56.91
lady that didn't have a child.
00:32:56.94\00:33:00.28
Doug: Yeah, the
Shunammite woman.
00:33:00.31\00:33:02.71
Yeah.
00:33:02.74\00:33:04.08
And the story of the
Shunammite--not all the stories
00:33:04.11\00:33:06.01
of Elisha's miracles
are in chronological order.
00:33:06.05\00:33:09.48
The emphasis is that Elisha
has doubled the Holy Spirit
00:33:09.52\00:33:12.72
of Elijah and then it
begins to recount examples
00:33:12.75\00:33:15.82
of his miracles.
00:33:15.86\00:33:17.63
I'm not sure that they're all
written in chronological order.
00:33:17.66\00:33:20.80
So the Shunammite, I
think, happened before
00:33:20.83\00:33:24.77
the story of Naaman.
00:33:24.80\00:33:27.47
Joan: Okay. Thank you.
00:33:27.50\00:33:28.90
Doug: Thanks. Great questions.
00:33:28.94\00:33:30.81
Jean: All right,
next caller that we have
00:33:30.84\00:33:32.14
is Abigail in Florida.
00:33:32.17\00:33:33.74
Abigail, welcome to the program.
00:33:33.78\00:33:36.21
Abigail: Hi,
pastors. How are you guys?
00:33:36.24\00:33:38.38
Doug: We're doing much
better than we deserve.
00:33:38.41\00:33:41.15
Abigail: Awesome.
00:33:41.18\00:33:42.72
My question is in
Matthew 27:52, 53.
00:33:42.75\00:33:49.66
Who were the saints
they were referring to?
00:33:49.69\00:33:52.09
Were they people, and
did they ascend into heaven
00:33:52.13\00:33:55.13
or where did they go?
00:33:55.16\00:33:56.87
Doug: Okay, good question.
00:33:56.90\00:33:59.00
In Matthew 27 it talks about
that when Christ died on the
00:33:59.03\00:34:03.14
cross after he cried out,
"Lord, you know, into Your hands
00:34:03.17\00:34:05.47
I commend my spirit.
00:34:05.51\00:34:07.44
It is finished," there's a great
earthquake, and in connection
00:34:07.48\00:34:11.21
with that earthquake it says
many of the graves--not all.
00:34:11.25\00:34:13.85
It's not a universal
resurrection, but many--and not
00:34:13.88\00:34:17.25
all the graves around Jerusalem,
but some of the graves of
00:34:17.29\00:34:20.06
saints, saved people who were
resting in their graves around
00:34:20.09\00:34:24.56
Jerusalem, were opened.
00:34:24.59\00:34:26.59
And then after when Christ came
out of his grave Sunday morning,
00:34:26.63\00:34:29.56
some of them arose and appeared
to people in Jerusalem briefly
00:34:29.60\00:34:34.50
probably because it's
not even mentioned in John
00:34:34.54\00:34:37.31
or Mark or Luke.
00:34:37.34\00:34:39.24
But there were people who saw
some of the resurrected saints
00:34:39.27\00:34:42.14
that evidently they ascended
to heaven with Christ when he
00:34:42.18\00:34:44.61
ascended after
he'd spoken with Mary.
00:34:44.65\00:34:46.98
And who were
they? Doesn't name them.
00:34:47.02\00:34:49.62
There are some people who
are believers in God, faithful,
00:34:49.65\00:34:54.36
buried somewhere in the area
around Jerusalem and probably
00:34:54.39\00:34:58.73
not John the Baptist because I
think he was buried down by the
00:34:58.76\00:35:01.06
Jordan somewhere.
00:35:01.10\00:35:03.00
It--you know, it could
have been people like Isaiah.
00:35:03.03\00:35:05.60
We don't know. It
doesn't say their names.
00:35:05.63\00:35:07.64
But how many, we don't know.
00:35:07.67\00:35:10.87
But there is a first fruits
that--I think you've got a verse
00:35:10.91\00:35:13.34
in Ephesians talks--
00:35:13.38\00:35:14.84
Jean: Yeah, there is.
00:35:14.88\00:35:16.18
Ephesians chapter 4, verse
8 actually talks about a group
00:35:16.21\00:35:17.71
that ascended with Jesus,
and here you have Paul quoting
00:35:17.75\00:35:21.28
the Old Testament.
00:35:21.32\00:35:22.78
He says, "For when he ascended
on high, he led captivity
00:35:22.82\00:35:25.09
captive, and
gave gifts unto men."
00:35:25.12\00:35:28.49
And he's actually quoting
here from Psalm 68, but it's
00:35:28.52\00:35:32.33
referring to those who
are held captive by death
00:35:32.36\00:35:34.63
or by the grave.
00:35:34.66\00:35:36.03
They were resurrected and
they ascended with Jesus when he
00:35:36.06\00:35:38.60
ascended to heaven.
00:35:38.63\00:35:40.24
Doug: Yeah.
00:35:40.27\00:35:41.50
So hope that helps a little bit,
Abigail, and--yes, we do have a
00:35:41.54\00:35:45.17
study guide that talks
about the dead and it's--and the
00:35:45.21\00:35:48.38
resurrection that says
"Are the Dead Really Dead?"
00:35:48.41\00:35:51.15
And if you're interested, we can
send you a free copy of that.
00:35:51.18\00:35:53.68
Jean: The number to call for
that is 800-835-6747 and, again,
00:35:53.72\00:35:57.22
just ask for the study guide.
00:35:57.25\00:35:58.69
It's called "Are
the Dead Really Dead?"
00:35:58.72\00:36:00.79
Next caller that we have
is Inga listening in Canada.
00:36:00.82\00:36:03.09
Inga, welcome to the program.
00:36:03.12\00:36:05.29
Inga: Hello, pastor.
00:36:05.33\00:36:06.90
Doug: Hi.
00:36:06.93\00:36:08.56
Inga: Hi.
00:36:08.60\00:36:09.90
My question is, is there going
to be technology in heaven?
00:36:09.93\00:36:13.47
Doug: Well, when you say
technology--of course, you know,
00:36:13.50\00:36:16.97
God is the author
of all true science.
00:36:17.01\00:36:20.01
And so there--will
there be scientific wonders?
00:36:20.04\00:36:23.04
I would think of course.
00:36:23.08\00:36:25.88
Will we have smartphones?
00:36:25.91\00:36:28.08
Probably not because I'm
thinking that a lot of things
00:36:28.12\00:36:31.49
that the smartphones are
doing now we'll be able to do in
00:36:31.52\00:36:33.86
supernatural ways
when we get to heaven.
00:36:33.89\00:36:36.76
We won't need a GPS.
00:36:36.79\00:36:38.33
I think the Holy Spirit is
going to tell us where we are.
00:36:38.36\00:36:40.06
We'd get lost pretty
quick in the universe without
00:36:40.10\00:36:42.40
some kind of divine GPS.
00:36:42.43\00:36:46.10
But we'll be--you know, we'll
be probably doing all kinds of
00:36:46.13\00:36:49.47
research into the beauties and
wonders of God, and I--it says
00:36:49.50\00:36:52.94
we're going to plant
vineyards and eat the fruit
00:36:52.97\00:36:55.11
and build houses.
00:36:55.14\00:36:56.54
So we're doing
constructive things.
00:36:56.58\00:36:58.71
Is it plausible that as history
goes by we'll be making things?
00:36:58.75\00:37:03.12
Yeah, I believe so.
00:37:03.15\00:37:05.62
Jean: All right. Thank you.
00:37:05.65\00:37:06.99
Next caller that we have
is Jerry listening in Oregon.
00:37:07.02\00:37:08.92
Jerry, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:37:08.96\00:37:12.49
Jerry: Good evening,
Pastors Ross and Batchelor.
00:37:12.53\00:37:16.20
I'm reading John 5:24, which
says, "Verily truly I tell you,
00:37:16.23\00:37:22.54
whoever hears my word and
believes Him who sent me has
00:37:22.57\00:37:27.31
eternal life and will not be
judged but has crossed over from
00:37:27.34\00:37:32.15
death to life."
00:37:32.18\00:37:34.58
But the--when I
look at Matthew 12:36
00:37:34.62\00:37:41.19
it says that everyone will
00:37:41.22\00:37:45.13
have to give an
account of every idle word.
00:37:45.16\00:37:48.90
And then Revelation 20:12 says
that the books are open and the
00:37:48.93\00:37:56.71
dead are judged according
to what they have done.
00:37:56.74\00:38:01.11
So my question is, are the
believers judged or not judged?
00:38:01.14\00:38:07.58
Doug: All right, let
me--there's one more.
00:38:07.62\00:38:09.08
You've read some
good verses there.
00:38:09.12\00:38:11.05
You can look--well, I
might give you two more.
00:38:11.09\00:38:12.89
Romans 14:10 Paul says in the
last part of that, "For we will
00:38:12.92\00:38:16.83
all stand--" He's
talking to the church.
00:38:16.86\00:38:19.39
"We will all stand before
the judgment seat of Christ."
00:38:19.43\00:38:22.93
And then if you look in 2
Corinthians 5:10 it says, "For
00:38:22.96\00:38:27.14
we must all appear before the
judgment seat of Christ, that
00:38:27.17\00:38:30.47
each one may receive the
things done in the body."
00:38:30.51\00:38:33.68
So with that in mind, what does
it mean there in the Gospel of
00:38:33.71\00:38:36.34
John where it says
we've passed from judgment?
00:38:36.38\00:38:39.81
I think that he's basically
saying that because of the blood
00:38:39.85\00:38:43.18
of Christ our sins are
stricken from the books.
00:38:43.22\00:38:45.99
So when they look in the books
it says forgiven, but the books
00:38:46.02\00:38:49.16
are going to be examined and the
only way that our deeds are not
00:38:49.19\00:38:53.50
going to rise up against us is
if they are confessed, repented
00:38:53.53\00:38:57.23
of, and under
the blood of Christ.
00:38:57.27\00:38:59.67
But there's still a
judgment that reveals that.
00:38:59.70\00:39:03.34
Now, some judgment takes place
before Jesus comes because I
00:39:03.37\00:39:06.88
think it's obvious to everybody
that if Christ is distributing
00:39:06.91\00:39:10.55
rewards when he comes some
investigation takes place before
00:39:10.58\00:39:14.35
he comes, sometimes referred
to as a pre-Advent judgment.
00:39:14.38\00:39:19.02
So the judgment sort of
happens in three phases.
00:39:19.05\00:39:21.72
It tells us that we
will judge angels, Paul says.
00:39:21.76\00:39:25.36
During the millennium, judgment
is given to the saints and
00:39:25.39\00:39:28.60
there's--we're looking at the
judgments of God, of why some
00:39:28.63\00:39:31.37
people maybe aren't there
and why some people are there.
00:39:31.40\00:39:35.50
I can picture in the
resurrection that when Stephen
00:39:35.54\00:39:38.71
sees the apostle Paul in heaven
he's going to think the angels
00:39:38.74\00:39:40.98
did something wrong because the
last time Stephen sees Paul he
00:39:41.01\00:39:45.18
was killing Christians.
00:39:45.21\00:39:47.15
Now he's in heaven.
00:39:47.18\00:39:48.95
So the--Stephen will get
to look at the judgment books.
00:39:48.98\00:39:52.02
And so we're sort of looking
at some of the judgments of God.
00:39:52.05\00:39:54.52
And then there's a final Great
White Throne Judgment where all
00:39:54.56\00:39:57.13
the dead are resurrected,
and that's called an executive
00:39:57.16\00:39:59.76
judgment.
00:39:59.79\00:40:01.20
They're given their penalty,
but, again, the books are opened
00:40:01.23\00:40:03.23
and every knee, saved, lost,
devils, angels--everybody is
00:40:03.26\00:40:07.40
going to bow before
Christ and say he is Lord.
00:40:07.44\00:40:11.51
Jean: You know, we have
a couple of study guides
00:40:11.54\00:40:12.87
that talk about the judgment.
00:40:12.91\00:40:14.21
People want to learn more about
that, if you call and ask for
00:40:14.24\00:40:17.65
"The Final Judgment."
00:40:17.68\00:40:19.25
It's one of the
Amazing Facts study guides.
00:40:19.28\00:40:20.68
We'll be happy
to send that to you.
00:40:20.72\00:40:22.12
You can also ask for the
one called "Right on Time."
00:40:22.15\00:40:24.65
That is sort of part one
and part two about the judgment.
00:40:24.69\00:40:27.92
The number to call for that
is 800-835-6747, and you can ask
00:40:27.96\00:40:32.43
for the study guide
called "Right on Time"
00:40:32.46\00:40:34.30
and "The Final Judgment."
00:40:34.36\00:40:36.26
It'll tell you all about what's
happening in this heavenly
00:40:36.30\00:40:38.10
courtroom that's
described in the Bible.
00:40:38.13\00:40:40.47
So 800-835-6747.
00:40:40.50\00:40:44.01
Next caller that we have is
Aaron listening in New York.
00:40:44.04\00:40:46.91
Aaron, welcome to
"Bible Answers Live."
00:40:46.94\00:40:50.35
Aaron: Good evening,
pastors. Doug: Evening.
00:40:50.38\00:40:53.18
Aaron: If a stranger insults
you by calling you a derogatory
00:40:53.21\00:40:56.05
word for no apparent reason and
immediately leaves you so that
00:40:56.08\00:41:00.36
you cannot ask them what
happened, is it okay to do
00:41:00.39\00:41:03.99
nothing about the insult and act
like it never happened or should
00:41:04.03\00:41:09.30
you give a prayer for
forgiveness for that stranger?
00:41:09.33\00:41:13.74
Doug: Well, Jesus said, "When
people say all manner of evil
00:41:13.77\00:41:18.17
against you falsely for
my name's sake, rejoice."
00:41:18.21\00:41:22.01
And the Bible then tells us
to turn the other cheek and pray
00:41:22.04\00:41:24.98
for those who spitefully
use you and persecute you.
00:41:25.01\00:41:28.22
So the answer on both counts
according to Jesus's teaching
00:41:28.25\00:41:30.79
is as far as possible
try and turn the other cheek.
00:41:30.82\00:41:35.16
Now, if I'm standing on the
corner and some lunatic comes up
00:41:35.19\00:41:38.03
and starts, you know, taking
swings at me, I'll probably
00:41:38.06\00:41:40.03
defend myself.
00:41:40.06\00:41:41.70
But, you know, if someone
insults you, you just turn the
00:41:41.73\00:41:44.80
other cheek.
00:41:44.83\00:41:46.33
I get criticism all the time.
00:41:46.37\00:41:49.07
Some of it's deserved, some
of it's just being mean and, you
00:41:49.10\00:41:52.34
know, I don't respond or
retaliate because, you know,
00:41:52.37\00:41:55.48
that's what Jesus did and that's
what I think he wants us to do.
00:41:55.51\00:41:58.88
When they--you look at the trial
of Christ, they said all kinds
00:41:58.91\00:42:01.55
of terrible things to him and
about him and he really didn't
00:42:01.58\00:42:04.72
defend himself
and Pilate was amazed.
00:42:04.75\00:42:08.32
So--and then, of
course, pray for.
00:42:08.36\00:42:10.79
Jesus prayed for
those crucifying him.
00:42:10.83\00:42:12.53
So should we pray for
people that spitefully use us
00:42:12.56\00:42:15.90
and persecute us?
00:42:15.93\00:42:17.23
Yes. Is it hard?
00:42:17.27\00:42:18.57
Yes.
00:42:18.60\00:42:19.90
But that's where we're
developing Christian virtues.
00:42:19.93\00:42:22.44
Thanks, Aaron.
I appreciate that.
00:42:22.47\00:42:24.64
Jean: Next caller that
we have is Carlos listening
00:42:24.67\00:42:26.11
in Florida.
00:42:26.14\00:42:27.44
Carlos, welcome to the program.
00:42:27.48\00:42:29.78
Carlos: Good
evening, pastors. Doug: Hi.
00:42:29.81\00:42:32.28
Carlos: Hebrews 4, verse 4
says, "For he spake in a certain
00:42:32.31\00:42:38.15
place of the
seventh day on this wise,"
00:42:38.19\00:42:41.79
comma--what certain place?
00:42:41.82\00:42:47.20
And I'm not understanding this
term here where--do you have a
00:42:47.23\00:42:51.83
king--are you guys
reading from King James?
00:42:51.87\00:42:54.37
Doug: Yeah, well, I've
got the New King James here.
00:42:54.40\00:42:56.20
It's almost identical.
00:42:56.24\00:42:58.47
Carlos: So it says, "For
he spake in a certain place of
00:42:58.51\00:43:01.84
the seventh day on this wise."
00:43:01.88\00:43:04.51
Doug: On this
wise means in this way.
00:43:04.55\00:43:07.08
Yeah.
00:43:07.12\00:43:08.68
And he's quoting from the Old
Testament in Exodus 20 where it
00:43:08.72\00:43:11.85
says God rested the seventh day,
and he may also be quoting from
00:43:11.89\00:43:14.39
Genesis 2:2 because it
says it in both places.
00:43:14.42\00:43:18.59
Carlos: So the
place he's speaking from
00:43:18.63\00:43:20.66
is the seventh day?
00:43:20.70\00:43:22.86
Doug: Well, no.
00:43:22.90\00:43:24.20
It means that the--that King
David, he's quoting about--he's
00:43:24.23\00:43:26.84
talking about King David in
chapter 4 of Hebrews, and it
00:43:26.87\00:43:30.11
says for he spoke in a certain
place--actually he's talking
00:43:30.14\00:43:32.71
about--for God spoke in a
certain place of the seventh day
00:43:32.74\00:43:37.41
and God rested from His work,
and he's talking about where in
00:43:37.45\00:43:40.75
Genesis 2:2 it says
that God rested from His work
00:43:40.78\00:43:45.19
in creating the world.
00:43:45.22\00:43:47.49
Carlos: What is a certain place?
00:43:47.52\00:43:49.36
Doug: What is a certain place?
00:43:49.39\00:43:51.06
It means in the--a place in
the Scripture, and the place
00:43:51.09\00:43:53.13
is--yeah, he's talking
about--he's spoken--he's quoting
00:43:53.16\00:43:56.83
various verses.
00:43:56.87\00:43:58.33
Like if you look in verse 3
it says, "So I swore in my wrath
00:43:58.37\00:44:01.20
they will not enter my rest."
00:44:01.24\00:44:02.94
Here he's quoting from Psalm 95.
00:44:02.97\00:44:06.47
So Hebrews, he's going
through different places
00:44:06.51\00:44:09.54
in the Old Testament.
00:44:09.58\00:44:11.18
I think there are more
quotes--more Old Testament
00:44:11.21\00:44:13.28
quotes in Hebrews than
any other New Testament book.
00:44:13.31\00:44:16.35
I think Matthew and
Romans might be next.
00:44:16.38\00:44:18.35
Hey. Thank you, Carlos.
00:44:18.39\00:44:19.95
I hope that helps a little bit.
00:44:19.99\00:44:21.59
Jean: Next caller that
we have is Troy listening
00:44:21.62\00:44:22.99
in Massachusetts.
00:44:23.02\00:44:24.33
Troy, welcome to the program.
00:44:24.36\00:44:26.09
Troy: Good evening, pastors.
00:44:26.13\00:44:27.50
I just want to thank you
guys for your faithfulness,
00:44:27.50\00:44:29.46
and Amazing Facts have had
a huge impact on my family.
00:44:29.50\00:44:31.97
So I just want
to thank you guys.
00:44:32.00\00:44:34.44
My question now, it's
about Daniel and Ezra.
00:44:34.47\00:44:39.24
We know the 70-week prophecy
with Ezra chapter 7 is where it
00:44:39.27\00:44:44.45
starts the 70-week prophecy.
00:44:44.48\00:44:46.15
And I'm reading Ezra now in Ezra
chapter 4 with the resistance of
00:44:46.18\00:44:50.72
building the temple and it says
Artaxerxes had sent a letter to
00:44:50.75\00:44:59.13
cease the work that's been going
on in Jerusalem, and it says
00:44:59.16\00:45:03.16
until the second year of the
reign of Darius king of Persia.
00:45:03.20\00:45:06.30
It's Ezra
chapter 4 and verse 24.
00:45:06.33\00:45:09.27
My question is, is this the
same Artaxerxes that comes forth
00:45:09.30\00:45:13.34
in chapter 7?
00:45:13.38\00:45:14.91
Because in chapter 6 we have the
issuing of the decree of Darius
00:45:14.94\00:45:20.28
and in chapter 1 was from Cyrus.
00:45:20.32\00:45:22.95
I'm just kind of confused
if it's the same Artaxerxes in
00:45:22.98\00:45:26.45
chapter 4 that's in chapter
7, if that makes any sense.
00:45:26.49\00:45:30.29
Doug: Yeah,
I--yeah, good question.
00:45:30.33\00:45:32.53
I think that it is different.
00:45:32.56\00:45:36.00
You know, sometimes
they had sons--or rulers.
00:45:36.03\00:45:38.67
There's actually more than one
Darius that had the same name.
00:45:38.70\00:45:42.40
There's a Darius during the time
of Daniel and then years later
00:45:42.44\00:45:45.47
you get another Darius
during the time of Ezra.
00:45:45.51\00:45:48.54
And I could be wrong, Pastor
Ross, but I think the one in
00:45:48.58\00:45:51.01
chapter 7 is the Artaxerxes who
did the decree that allowed them
00:45:51.05\00:45:54.28
to go home, and the one who put
up a blockade that you find in
00:45:54.32\00:45:58.72
chapter 4, I think, it
was a different king during a
00:45:58.75\00:46:02.32
different time.
00:46:02.36\00:46:04.29
So I don't know if
you know more about that.
00:46:04.33\00:46:08.26
Jean: Yeah, I was
just going to mention
00:46:08.30\00:46:09.60
a couple of
other--there are three decrees
00:46:09.63\00:46:11.27
that are particularly
significant to the Jews that
00:46:11.30\00:46:13.77
allowed them to go back and
restore and rebuild Jerusalem;
00:46:13.80\00:46:16.74
and the first decree was by
Cyrus, the second was by Darius
00:46:16.77\00:46:22.31
in 519, and then
Artaxerxes was in 457 BC.
00:46:22.34\00:46:27.02
So that's the one that's really
recorded for us in Ezra; is the
00:46:27.05\00:46:30.82
decree that allowed the Jews
to go back not only rebuild the
00:46:30.85\00:46:33.52
temple but actually the wall of
the city, and that's the decree
00:46:33.56\00:46:37.43
in 457 BC that starts the
70 weeks or the 490 years.
00:46:37.46\00:46:41.26
So is there another Artaxerxes?
00:46:41.30\00:46:43.37
There could be, but this is the
one that the Bible speaks of,
00:46:43.40\00:46:46.74
especially in Ezra, as
being the most significant
00:46:46.77\00:46:49.00
in issuing that decree.
00:46:49.04\00:46:50.47
Doug: Yeah. The decree is
actually found in chapter 7.
00:46:50.51\00:46:52.81
So I think he's wondering,
is the Artaxerxes in chapter 4
00:46:52.84\00:46:56.71
the same one in chapter 7?
00:46:56.75\00:46:58.48
And I'm trying to go back in
my Persian history and remember.
00:46:58.51\00:47:01.02
I just remember there were some
of these kings that had the same
00:47:01.05\00:47:03.12
name, but I know the
Artaxerxes in chapter 7.
00:47:03.15\00:47:06.59
That's the decree of 457.
00:47:06.62\00:47:09.56
So I'm going to have to go
look that up again because I'm
00:47:09.59\00:47:11.83
second-guessing what I said.
00:47:11.86\00:47:14.56
That just goes to show you,
friends, we don't have all the
00:47:14.56\00:47:16.13
answers, but we'll
research that, Troy.
00:47:16.16\00:47:19.07
I want to make sure I'm
giving you the right answer.
00:47:19.10\00:47:20.90
Thank you.
00:47:20.94\00:47:22.40
Jean: Thanks.
00:47:22.44\00:47:24.04
Next caller that we have is
Nicole listening in Michigan.
00:47:24.07\00:47:25.37
Nicole, welcome to the program.
00:47:25.41\00:47:27.58
Nicole: Hi, how are you?
00:47:27.61\00:47:29.18
Doug: Doing good.
Thank you for calling.
00:47:29.21\00:47:31.88
Nicole: Good.
00:47:31.91\00:47:33.25
I have a question about
Numbers chapter 28, verse 7.
00:47:33.28\00:47:35.78
It says that strong drink was
to be offered in the sanctuary.
00:47:35.82\00:47:41.32
What is that strong drink?
00:47:41.36\00:47:43.66
Because I'm under the impression
that the people of God were not
00:47:43.69\00:47:46.49
supposed to have anything to
do with alcoholic beverages and
00:47:46.53\00:47:49.56
definitely not in the sanctuary.
00:47:49.60\00:47:51.80
So what is this
strong drink there?
00:47:51.83\00:47:54.54
Doug: Yeah. That's, I
think, often misunderstood.
00:47:54.57\00:47:57.91
The word strong there, it
could in some places mean strong
00:47:57.94\00:48:02.11
as in alcohol.
00:48:02.14\00:48:04.31
They had another word
for strong, and it's the word
00:48:04.35\00:48:06.75
like concentrated.
00:48:06.78\00:48:08.68
Now, you've probably had orange
juice before that was made
00:48:08.72\00:48:11.52
from concentrate.
00:48:11.55\00:48:14.29
I'm guessing you've tasted what
orange juice from concentrate
00:48:14.32\00:48:18.66
tastes like before you add
the water, and you could say
00:48:18.69\00:48:21.83
that's really strong.
00:48:21.86\00:48:23.90
The Jews used to actually
dehydrate their grape juice so
00:48:23.93\00:48:28.70
they could transport it and--you
know, liquids are very heavy.
00:48:28.74\00:48:31.77
They would dehydrate it, make
it into a syrup, and then they'd
00:48:31.81\00:48:35.08
reconstitute it.
00:48:35.11\00:48:36.64
That sometimes was
called strong drink.
00:48:36.68\00:48:38.45
The word strong there
meaning intense or concentrated.
00:48:38.48\00:48:42.52
It might not be alcoholic at all
and it, matter of fact, could be
00:48:42.55\00:48:46.49
very sweet, almost a syrup.
00:48:46.52\00:48:48.19
But then you'd add water
again and it was just right.
00:48:48.22\00:48:51.29
This may very well be what
they're talking about because I
00:48:51.33\00:48:53.43
don't think God
approved them using alcohol.
00:48:53.46\00:48:57.73
The two sons of
Aaron were burnt to death.
00:48:57.77\00:49:01.54
God rained fire down on heaven
from them for drinking alcohol
00:49:01.57\00:49:05.17
before they went
to the sanctuary.
00:49:05.21\00:49:06.91
It would seem strange that
He would then endorse people
00:49:06.94\00:49:09.64
bringing alcohol
into the sanctuary.
00:49:09.68\00:49:12.11
Jean: And, of
course, we do have Leviticus.
00:49:12.15\00:49:13.52
Actually, Leviticus chapter 10,
verse 9 says, "Do not drink wine
00:49:13.55\00:49:16.12
or intoxicating drink when you
or your sons who are with you go
00:49:16.15\00:49:19.62
into the tabernacle of meeting."
00:49:19.65\00:49:21.99
So part of the sacrifice that
was given would also be used to
00:49:22.02\00:49:25.09
help sustain the priesthood.
00:49:25.13\00:49:27.10
So the priests were clearly
told that they were not to be
00:49:27.13\00:49:29.36
drinking alcohol when they
were involved in the sacrifice.
00:49:29.40\00:49:32.83
So it was a concentrated sort
of grape juice that could be
00:49:32.87\00:49:37.91
diluted with water.
00:49:37.94\00:49:39.54
Doug: Yeah.
00:49:39.57\00:49:40.88
And if you--I've got a
book called "Alcohol and the
00:49:40.91\00:49:42.61
Christian."
00:49:42.64\00:49:44.11
I think it references--I wrote
it, you know, 15 years ago so I
00:49:44.15\00:49:45.88
don't even remember everything
that's in it, but I think it
00:49:45.91\00:49:47.82
references the strong drink
that you find in this passage.
00:49:47.85\00:49:52.45
Jean: The number to call
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00:49:52.49\00:49:55.86
You can ask for the book called
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00:49:55.89\00:49:57.99
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00:49:58.03\00:50:00.63
You can also dial #250 on
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00:50:04.70\00:50:07.04
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00:50:07.07\00:50:09.17
Next caller that we have
is Mike listening in Missouri.
00:50:09.20\00:50:11.37
Mike, welcome to the program.
00:50:11.41\00:50:13.74
Mike: Well, here let
me get to it real quick.
00:50:13.78\00:50:15.81
My question concerns Acts
chapter 12, verse 4 of the King
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James Version.
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And according to the
Julian concordance the word for
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Passover in that
particular passage is Easter.
00:50:26.52\00:50:30.46
Now, this question
is based on hearsay.
00:50:30.49\00:50:33.63
I've never been able to find
this in writing, but this person
00:50:33.66\00:50:37.50
told me that east--I'm going
to state it in the question.
00:50:37.53\00:50:45.17
Is Easter the correct name
for Passover when calculated
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by a Julian calendar?
00:50:48.51\00:50:52.91
Doug: No.
00:50:52.95\00:50:54.35
Well, the word Easter is not
the word in the original when
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they're translating it into
English because the time of the
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Passover is the same time
of year as the Catholics that
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celebrated and even the Orthodox
Church, or whether you call the
00:51:09.73\00:51:12.67
Church of England, the same
time they celebrated Easter.
00:51:12.70\00:51:17.44
Not always the same day because
they would pick it differently.
00:51:17.47\00:51:19.81
The Jews used more of a lunar
cycle that--it's basically just
00:51:19.84\00:51:23.98
saying that Herod was
going to execute Peter
00:51:24.01\00:51:26.82
during the Passover or
after Passover was over.
00:51:26.85\00:51:30.09
I think it's letting us
know that's the same time
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of year they were going
to--they did execute Jesus.
00:51:31.99\00:51:34.66
So they use the word
Easter there in the King James,
00:51:34.69\00:51:37.89
but you'll find in
most other versions
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they translate that Passover.
00:51:39.39\00:51:41.33
What the exact date was, I
think, it would be according to
00:51:41.36\00:51:43.37
the Jewish calendar,
not the Roman calendar
00:51:43.40\00:51:46.70
because this is
written by a Jew.
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So it's a lunar calendar,
the Jewish civil calendar.
00:51:48.70\00:51:51.81
Mike: Okay.
00:51:51.84\00:51:53.48
Doug: He's just saying
that--Herod didn't execute him
00:51:53.51\00:51:55.48
right away because
they're waiting for the Passover
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to be over.
00:51:57.55\00:51:58.85
Jean: And if you look at
the same verse in the New King
00:51:58.88\00:52:00.98
James, which is very close to
the King James, it does use the
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word Passover
in place of Easter.
00:52:03.08\00:52:05.65
So it sort of corrects that,
a better word in that case.
00:52:05.69\00:52:10.63
All right, thank you.
00:52:10.66\00:52:12.13
Next caller that we have is
Linda listening in California.
00:52:12.16\00:52:13.86
Linda, welcome to the program.
00:52:13.90\00:52:16.40
Linda: Thank you.
00:52:16.43\00:52:18.00
I'm confused about which are the
people who will fight with the
00:52:18.03\00:52:23.20
devil against the New Jerusalem.
00:52:23.24\00:52:27.54
Doug: Who will be
fighting against the devil?
00:52:27.58\00:52:31.15
Linda: No, with the devil.
00:52:31.18\00:52:32.71
Doug: Who's
fighting with the devil?
00:52:32.75\00:52:34.25
Well, it tells us Gog and Magog.
00:52:34.28\00:52:35.75
The devil rallies Gog and Magog,
and you find that in Exodus
00:52:35.78\00:52:37.89
chapter 20 and
Exodus 20 is sort of quoting
00:52:37.92\00:52:41.02
from Ezekiel 37 and 38.
00:52:41.06\00:52:44.23
Gog and Magog--sorry.
00:52:44.26\00:52:45.69
Yeah, Revelation.
00:52:45.73\00:52:47.60
Thank you very much.
00:52:47.60\00:52:49.10
Revelation chapter 20.
00:52:49.13\00:52:50.67
Linda: Where did the people
come from because before the
00:52:50.70\00:52:52.93
second coming the earth is--
00:52:52.97\00:52:55.77
Doug: I'm getting to that.
00:52:55.80\00:52:57.11
Linda: Okay, got you.
00:52:57.14\00:52:58.54
Doug: Yeah, they're resurrected.
00:52:58.57\00:53:00.81
It says the rest of
the dead--and now we're in
00:53:00.84\00:53:02.74
Revelation chapter 20.
00:53:02.78\00:53:04.55
The rest of the dead liveth not
again until the thousand years
00:53:04.58\00:53:07.55
are finished.
00:53:07.58\00:53:08.88
So the dead in
Christ rise first.
00:53:08.92\00:53:10.39
So all the
righteous are resurrected.
00:53:10.42\00:53:12.25
There's only one group left
who are the rest of the dead.
00:53:12.29\00:53:14.82
If all the righteous
are resurrected in the first
00:53:14.86\00:53:16.39
resurrection, it says the
dead in Christ rise first in
00:53:16.42\00:53:19.66
1 Thessalonians, who would
the rest of the dead be, Linda?
00:53:19.69\00:53:24.07
Linda: The lost.
00:53:24.10\00:53:25.70
Doug: That's
right. It's the wicked.
00:53:25.73\00:53:26.97
It calls them Gog and Magog
in Revelation because Revelation
00:53:27.00\00:53:30.34
uses symbolic names
for almost everybody.
00:53:30.37\00:53:33.64
It uses Balaam and Napoleon
and the lamb and the lion and
00:53:33.68\00:53:38.48
Jezebel, and it uses Gog
and Magog because in the Old
00:53:38.51\00:53:41.72
Testament those were enemies
of God's people from antiquity.
00:53:41.75\00:53:46.65
Gog and then you've got
Magog means from the matrix
00:53:46.69\00:53:50.03
of Gog or the children of Gog.
00:53:50.06\00:53:52.56
So it's like
Babylon and her daughters.
00:53:52.59\00:53:54.63
Gog and Magog, the wicked
and the children of the wicked
00:53:54.66\00:53:57.30
of--you've got the good.
00:53:57.33\00:53:59.83
It says the woman and
the seed of the woman.
00:53:59.87\00:54:01.70
So you got the good side
and the children of the woman.
00:54:01.74\00:54:04.21
You got the bad side and the
children of the wicked, and--so
00:54:04.24\00:54:08.68
it's in that--all who have ever
lived from every generation,
00:54:08.71\00:54:12.51
they are coming against
the people of God and the devil
00:54:12.55\00:54:14.82
is rallying them to
assault the city of God.
00:54:14.85\00:54:18.12
And I think you also find that
in the Book of Zechariah chapter
00:54:18.15\00:54:20.46
14, and God delivers His
people at the crucial moment.
00:54:20.49\00:54:24.99
Now, I hope that
helps a little bit, Linda.
00:54:25.03\00:54:27.13
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00:54:27.20\00:54:28.80
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00:55:29.32\00:55:30.63
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And, again, as Pastor Doug
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00:55:32.13\00:55:33.43
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00:55:33.46\00:55:34.73
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Pastor Doug, first question we
have, "If Satan was cast to the
00:55:49.88\00:55:53.01
earth, where did he
go during the flood?"
00:55:53.05\00:55:56.08
Doug: Yeah, I think
people sometimes wonder
00:55:56.12\00:55:58.05
if the whole world was
flooded and if the devil was not
00:55:58.09\00:56:00.16
in the ark,
then--you know, they're
00:56:00.19\00:56:02.99
looking at the devil as though
he's got a physical body, but
00:56:03.02\00:56:07.13
the Bible says we do not
wrestle--Ephesians chapter 6,
00:56:07.13\00:56:10.20
we do not wrestle
against flesh and blood.
00:56:10.23\00:56:12.67
I mean, if we did, I'd love
to punch the devil in the nose.
00:56:12.70\00:56:15.70
Of course, I'm probably not
stronger than him physically.
00:56:15.74\00:56:17.84
But he's a spirit and he can
sometimes manifest himself in
00:56:17.87\00:56:22.61
physical ways, but
ultimately he's a spirit.
00:56:22.64\00:56:25.15
So I don't think he was
worried about drowning per se.
00:56:25.18\00:56:29.25
He didn't need scuba gear or
anything, but he probably saw
00:56:29.28\00:56:32.62
the catastrophe of the elements
and feared for his own existence
00:56:32.65\00:56:37.16
when he saw what was
happening to humanity.
00:56:37.19\00:56:39.79
He saw the terrible
judgment that came on mankind.
00:56:39.83\00:56:41.80
He probably feared;
but no, he didn't need
00:56:41.83\00:56:43.90
to worry about drowning.
00:56:43.93\00:56:46.17
Jean: Okay.
00:56:46.20\00:56:47.64
We have Rachel asking, will the
144,000 know that they are part
00:56:47.67\00:56:50.27
of this group during the
time that they're on the earth?
00:56:50.31\00:56:54.08
Will it not be
made known to them until
00:56:54.11\00:56:56.21
Jesus's second coming?
00:56:56.24\00:56:58.98
Doug: Well, it's a good
question, and I'm not sure
00:56:59.01\00:57:00.58
I know the answer.
00:57:00.62\00:57:02.68
The 12 apostles knew
that they were the 12 that had
00:57:02.72\00:57:07.86
been specifically chosen.
00:57:07.89\00:57:09.96
Will the 144,000 know that
they're, you know, 142,003?
00:57:09.99\00:57:16.36
No, not necessarily.
00:57:16.40\00:57:18.37
I think that there's going to be
a special Spirit-filled group of
00:57:18.40\00:57:22.37
apostles you might see in the
last days doing a great work,
00:57:22.40\00:57:25.87
but they may not know
that they're one of them.
00:57:25.91\00:57:28.98
Jean: All right.
00:57:29.01\00:57:30.35
Next question that we have, "Can
fallen angels still repent and
00:57:30.38\00:57:32.38
be saved, or is
the plan of salvation
00:57:32.41\00:57:34.25
only for human beings?"
00:57:34.28\00:57:36.22
Doug: Well, probation
is open for humans now.
00:57:36.25\00:57:38.55
There was probably a time
when angels could have repented.
00:57:38.59\00:57:41.76
God gave them a period of
grace, and we don't know it.
00:57:41.79\00:57:43.96
It may have been thousands
of years while this debate
00:57:43.99\00:57:45.93
went on in heaven.
00:57:45.96\00:57:47.23
But ultimately their probation
closed and the angels know that
00:57:47.30\00:57:51.70
they are now in
everlasting chains of darkness.
00:57:51.73\00:57:54.64
And the demons often said
to Jesus, "We know who you are.
00:57:54.67\00:57:57.57
Have you come to
torment us before the time?"
00:57:57.61\00:57:59.67
Meaning judge us.
00:57:59.71\00:58:01.38
So they know there--the
devil knows he has a short time.
00:58:01.41\00:58:03.68
There's no turning back.
00:58:03.71\00:58:05.25
The fallen angels have no
redeemable qualities left.
00:58:05.28\00:58:08.55
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