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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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Doug Batchelor: Hello, friends.
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Would you like to
hear an amazing fact?
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The holy grail of global energy
is the heat beneath our feet,
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geothermal energy.
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All over the planet, between
5 and 20 miles below our feet,
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there is molten rock,
well over 1,000 degrees.
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That heat can produce enough
steam-generated electricity
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to power the planet.
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The problem has been
the drilling technology
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to get down there.
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The deepest hole ever
bored into the earth was
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the Kola Superdeep
Borehole in Russia.
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In 1992, it reached over 40,000
feet--that's 7 1/2 miles--before
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it had to stop because the
heat was melting the drill bits.
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Now there's a company with new
technology that does not rely on
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traditional drilling methods.
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Quaise Energy, working with MIT,
has developed new drill bits
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with a millimeter wave energy
that are designed to melt and
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vaporize rock to create deeper
holes to reach and harness the
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heat in the earth's core.
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Quaise Energy says there's
enough energy in the earth's
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magma to power every city on
earth for thousands of years.
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Clearly, Pastor Ross, it's
a question of going deeper.
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Jean Ross: That's right.
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The deeper you go,
the more energy you get.
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Doug: Get power.
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Jean: I think there's a
spiritual application there,
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Pastor Doug.
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If we want to have the power of
the Holy Spirit, we need to seek
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for a deeper experience in
the things of God, a deeper
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understanding of His
Word, a deeper commitment
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of our lives to Him.
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There is power in the Spirit.
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Doug: That's right.
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Makes me think of the passage
where Jesus says, in Luke
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chapter 6, verse 48, "A wise man
is like a man building a house,
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who dug deep, and he laid
the foundation on the rock.
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And when the flood arose, the
stream beat vehemently against
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that house, and it
could not shake it,
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for it was founded on the rock."
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And, of course, Jesus said
to the woman at the well that He
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was offering her this
artesian water, and she said,
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"But the well is deep."
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And, well, of course, that
Jacob's well was deep, but you
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also have to go deep if you
want the living water, and going
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deeper into our relationship
with the Lord in our prayers, in
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our study, you get more by
going deeper, and we try to go a
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little deeper sometimes on this
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know how you can have a deeper
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Doug: Amen, and so,
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We're on TV, we're on radio,
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Jean: Let's start
with a word of prayer.
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Dear Father, we thank You,
once again, that we have this
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opportunity to open
up Your Word and study.
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Lord, we know
there's power in the Word.
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Jesus said, "You shall know the
truth, and the truth will set
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you free," so we pray, Lord,
that our minds will be clear to
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receive the Word of truth.
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So bless those who are
listening and those who call in.
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And we pray for guidance,
Lord, as we search here, in the
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studio, the Scriptures.
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We ask this in
Jesus's name, amen.
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Doug: Amen.
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Jean: Well, we're ready to go to
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our first caller this evening.
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We've got a caller
from London, England.
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Dawn, welcome to the program.
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You are on the air.
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Dawn: Good morning, Pastor
Doug and Pastor Jean Ross.
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My question is God
commands us to worship
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on the seventh day, Sabbath.
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Of all the calendar and timeline
changes over the years, how do
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we know with great certainty
that the Saturday that we
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observe today is
still the Sabbath?
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Doug: You know, when I get
that question, I would--I always
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am tempted to say to those that
worship on the first day of the
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week, "How do you know
that's the day that it is?"
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People usually have no trouble
remembering what the days of the
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week are until they learn
the Sabbath truth and say,
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"Well, we really don't know."
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But, first of all, you can just
look at--there's a whole nation
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of Jews all over the world,
and they have been keeping the
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seventh day Sabbath
in continuity from long
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before the Christian era.
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Somebody wrote a
letter, Pastor Ross, to the U.S.
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Naval Observatory, where
they're, you know, they're very
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particular about keeping
time down to the millionth of a
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second, and I'm
not exaggerating.
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They really do keep it
to a millionth of a second.
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And they said, "Has there been
any change, any change in the
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calendar that has
affected the days of the week?"
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And they said there have been,
you know, several changes in the
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calendar, but that never
affects the days of the week.
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You know, we had the Julian
calendar, named for Julius
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Caesar, and then we went to the
Gregorian calendar, named after
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Pope Gregory, and it was a
change they needed to make to
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adjust the seasons where
because, you know, we've got 365
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one-quarter days to
the year, and they needed
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to make that adjustment.
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So they made the appropriate
adjustment, and what happened
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was--I think it was 1582,
Thursday, 1582, October 5 was
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followed by Friday, October 15.
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They added ten days,
but Friday followed Thursday
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as it always does.
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So the days of the week have not
been affected by any calendar
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change, and so, yeah, the U.S.
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Naval Observatory said there has
been no change in the calendar,
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to their knowledge,
that has ever affected
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the continuity
of the weekly cycle.
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Jean: You know, Pastor Doug,
you already addressed the Jewish
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nation as a whole.
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If you think back 2,000 years
ago, Jesus was on the earth.
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He knew which
day was the Sabbath.
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He kept the Sabbath the same
day that the Jews kept as the
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Sabbath, and then for 2,000
years for an entire nation to
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get mixed up within the period
of seven days as to which day of
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the week they're
on is impossible.
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Doug: Yeah, it's their holy day.
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And then, furthermore, in
the Bible, it tells us very
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specifically Jesus died on what
we would call the preparation
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day or Friday, the
sixth day of the week.
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That's why many
call it Good Friday.
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And then He rested in
the tomb on the Sabbath.
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He even kept the
Sabbath in His death.
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And then He rose the first day
of the week, which people all
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agree is Sunday morning.
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So the Bible is clear.
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Calendar is
clear. History is clear.
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You get the, you
know, the Jewish nation.
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There's really no
question about that.
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Jean: You know, we
have a study guide.
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It's called "The
Lost Day of History."
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That talks about the Sabbath.
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Is it binding on
Christians today?
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What is its significance?
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We'll be happy to send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
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Again, the study guide is called
"The Lost Day of History," and
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the phone number to call is
800-835-6747, or dial "#250"
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Ask for the study guide.
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It's called "The
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Doug: Thank you,
Dawn. Good question.
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Jean: We've got Gary
listening in Illinois.
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Gary, welcome to the program.
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Gary: Thank you.
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I was hoping you
can help me understand
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a biblical contradiction.
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In Ephesians 2:8-9, it says,
"We're saved by grace through
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faith, and not of ourselves.
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It is a gift from
God, and not of works."
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But now I found a--and everybody
seems to quote that one, but in
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Philippians 2:12, it
says, "Work out your salvation
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with fear and trembling."
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And so that contradicts it, and
same with Revelation 22, "I come
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quickly, and My reward is
with Me for what you have done."
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So there seems to
be a contradiction.
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I was hoping you
could clarify that for me.
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Doug: Oh, I'm so glad you
asked that question because it's
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a common misunderstanding,
and it is very important.
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Let's go back to what you
read to begin with in Ephesians
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chapter 2: "For by
grace--" this is verse 8.
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"For by grace you've
been saved through faith,
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that not of yourselves.
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It is a gift of
God, not of works,
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lest anyone should boast."
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And then many people stop.
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Read the next verse: "For we
are His workmanship, created in
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Christ Jesus for good works."
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So, when we are born
again, we're re-created.
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We are
re-created for good works.
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So, a Christian definitely does
works, but we're not doing the
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works to be saved.
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We're doing the
works, because we are saved.
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And that is, I think,
a fundamental difference.
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It's so important
to understand that.
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God saves us by His grace.
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We're not saved because we
earn it by doing good works.
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When we accept His salvation,
which is free, then we want to
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do good works
because we love Him.
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Jesus said, "If you love
Me, keep my commandments."
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Now, an example would be the
thief on the cross who--well,
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there are two thieves,
but one turned to Jesus.
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He asked for mercy,
said, "Lord, remember me."
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Jesus said, "You will
be with Me in Paradise."
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He didn't do any good works.
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All he did, shortly
after that, was die.
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So he would--definitely
was not saved by his works.
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He was saved by grace.
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Now, if he had come down from
the cross somehow and survived,
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he would have lived
differently out of love
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for the Lord and gratitude.
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So there are definitely
works in the Christian life.
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Even Martin Luther said that,
you know, we are not saved by
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works, but we will
not be saved without them.
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So the saved will
have works in their life.
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So, hopefully, that helps.
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It's a great question, Gary, and
we do have a book called "Does
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God's Grace Blot Out the Law?"
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Jean: And we'll be happy
to send that to you, Gary, or
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anyone wanting to
learn more about the subject.
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The book is called "Does
God's Grace Blot Out the Law?"
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The number is 800-835-6747.
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That is our resource phone line.
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You can also just dial "#250"
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You know, Pastor Doug, James,
in the book of James, says,
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"Someone says, 'I have faith,'"
and then he goes on to say,
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"Show me your
faith by your works."
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So the kind of faith that saves
is a working faith, a faith that
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is demonstrated in the life.
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We've got Jerry
listening in Texas.
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Jerry, welcome to the program.
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Jerry: Hey, pastors.
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I just wanted to
get your take on this.
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I had a discussion with a good
friend of mine, and I told her
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that there was no marriage in
heaven, and she was disappointed
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by it, you know?
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She loves children.
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Of course, in Zechariah 8:5, it
says the children, the boys and
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girls, will play in heaven,
but what about after 1,000 years
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or 1,500 years?
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Doug: That's a good question.
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Well, you know, God told Adam
and Eve to be fruitful, and the
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word He used is
"to fill the earth."
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I think some
versions say "replenish" it.
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Just, it really
means "to fill the earth."
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God intended to populate
the world with the redeemed.
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I don't think God intended for
people to continue to multiply
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so that the resources of the
planet would be crowded out, and
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everybody'd be falling' off
the planet into empty space.
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You know, at some point, God was
going to think, "Okay, we've got
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the optimum number of people to
enjoy this paradise I've made,
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and there'd be no
more procreation,"
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unless He kept
making new worlds.
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So, we understand now that the
new earth, through the plan of
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salvation, will be repopulated
with the redeemed, and Jesus
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said the saved do not marry
nor are they given in marriage,
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meaning that, you
know, we don't procreate.
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Will there be
children in heaven?
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The children of all those who
were saved will be resurrected
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or caught up into the air
as children, but they will
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eventually grow up, and you read
about that in Malachi chapter 4.
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It says: "They will go forth and
grow up as calves of the stall."
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So, and I think there's that
passage in Isaiah, Pastor Ross,
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where it says, "And the child
will die 100 years old," and
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that simply means they don't
even cease to be a child until
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they're 100 years old,
so they grow more slowly.
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But you're right, after 1,000
years, you probably won't see
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any new children in the kingdom.
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Kind of sad to think
about, but I promise,
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nobody's going
to ask for a refund.
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I promise.
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Everyone will
be happy in heaven.
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Thanks so much, Jerry.
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Appreciate that.
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Jean: Okay, very
good. Thanks, Jerry.
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We've got Brittany
listening in California.
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Brittany,
welcome to the program.
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Brittany: Hey--hah-hah-hah.
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Doug: Hi, thanks for calling.
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Brittany: Well, my question
is why does Matthew 22:16, Mark
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12:14, and Luke 20:21, say
the exact same thing in the
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beginning but
different wording at the end?
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Doug: In Matthew
22, verse 16--I can
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only go there real quick.
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I'm starting with--you've
given me several verses here.
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I want to start
with them, one by one.
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Says, "And they sent to
Him their disciples with the
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Herodians, saying, 'Teacher, we
know that You're true, and teach
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the way of God, and You
don't care about anyone.
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You regard no person of men.
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Tell us,
therefore, what do You think?
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Is it lawful to
pay taxes to Caesar?"
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Is that the one
you're talking about?
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Brittany: Yeah, that's--
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Doug: Yeah, keep in mind that
Jesus had a number of--and you
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might find the wording a little
different in other gospels.
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Is that what you're saying?
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Brittany: Yeah, I'm doing a
topic study on the Christian
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truth, and then I
found these passages,
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and it's saying the same thing.
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I'm like, "What on
earth is that about?"
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So--
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Doug: Yeah, well, keep in
mind that, first of all, Jesus
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had a number of encounters with
the scribes and the Pharisees
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and the Herodians, and this,
to me, I think, is evidence that
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the wording is slightly
different, then Matthew, Mark,
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and Luke are not
just copying each other.
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They're telling the story the
way the remember it, and they're
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really all telling the same
story, aren't they, about Him
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holding up the coin and saying,
"Render to Caesar the things
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that are Caesar's," right?
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Brittany: Yeah.
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Doug: So the essence of the
story and the answer and the
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teaching of Christ is
the same in all the stories.
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The wording leading up to
it may be a little different.
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Another thing to keep in mind is
that, as Jesus went from town to
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town, some of His experiences
had been repeated by others, and
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so His confrontation with the
scribes and the Pharisees and
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Herodians may have been retold
by the apostles to others, and
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so you're getting them telling
it from their perspectives,
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and that's normal.
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They're putting in
their own words what happened.
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They may have been very
long conversations, but they're
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making it very succinct.
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Jean: And, again, as you
mentioned, Pastor Doug, if you
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look at what's actually being
said, the content is the same.
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The wording might be a little
different, but the principle or
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the point that
Christ is making is clear
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in all three gospel accounts.
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Doug: Yeah, one more thing to
remember is--and it was brought
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to my attention that
Jesus, He taught in Aramaic.
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The scribes spoke, you know,
Aramaic and pure Hebrew, and
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they lived in a country that had
been occupied by Greece, so many
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of them understood Greek,
and they were occupied by the
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Romans, who spoke Latin, and
so as these stories are told and
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retold, the gospels are written
in Greek, but Jesus didn't say
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these things in Greek.
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So they're translating what was
said in Aramaic into Greek, and
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you can choose a few
different words to translate.
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So that's one
more reason sometimes
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you'll see a little difference.
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Jean: All right,
that's a good point.
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Next caller that we have
is Tim listening in Wisconsin.
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Tim, welcome to the program.
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Tim: Good evening,
pastors. How are you?
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Doug: I'm doing
great. Thank you for calling.
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Tim: Excellent.
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No, thank you
for taking my call.
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My question--I don't
want it to be confusing.
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In prophecy, we believe that the
70-week prophecy, the 490-year
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prophecy, that was
all in order from 457 B.C.
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to 34 A.D., when the stoning of
Stephen happened, and there's no
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breaks in there, and some people
believe that the last week of
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the 60--or the 70-week prophecy
is going to be in the future,
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and we already know
it's not because it's--
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it ended in 34 A.D.
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Doug: Mm-hmm.
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Tim: Now, my question has
to do--and don't want to be
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confusing, but my question has
to do with Revelation chapter
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16, verse 12, when the angel
pours out the sixth bowl, I
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believe, and the river Euphrates
dries up, now, in prophecy, I'm
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just having a little trouble
because I want to go in order.
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My mind works in order,
one, two, three, four, five.
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Doug: Sequentially,
yeah. Tim: Thank you.
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Kind of nervous. I apologize.
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Doug: No, you're doing fine.
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Tim: When the river Euphrates
dried up when the Medo-Persians
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attacked and conquered Babylon,
is the river Euphrates still
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going to dry up again
in prophecy, according to
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Revelation, or has
that already happened?
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And why, if we believe things,
you know, in order, why would we
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go back to believe that one?
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I'm trying not to be confusing.
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I'm just trying
to figure it out.
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Doug: Yeah, well, for one
thing, Revelation has several
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examples of
history repeating itself.
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You've got the plagues in the
Old Testament that were literal
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plagues, the blood and the
frogs and the sun going dark,
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so forth, the hail.
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You see some of those same
plagues repeated in Revelation,
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so you do have
history repeating itself.
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The sequence isn't always
the same, and the prophecies in
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Revelation--I'm going to let
Pastor Ross also address this
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because it's, sort
of, his special study.
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The prophecies in Revelation
are not all taking place
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in sequential order.
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The prophecies of Daniel
and Revelation and Isaiah and
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Ezekiel, they basically give
a picture, then they come back,
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and they show the same picture
from a different angle, using
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different symbols, and the time
lapse may overlap a little bit
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and then progress, but sometimes
they back up to re-cover
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something, and when it talks
about the Euphrates drying up,
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well, I think there's a
spiritual application to that.
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The Euphrates was the principal
source for the water of Babylon,
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and Ancient Babylon, we know,
has a spiritual meaning too, and
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it's going to dry up, but
it is interesting the literal
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Euphrates seems
to be drying up also.
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Jean: That's right, of
course, if you look at the
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context, Revelation 16, verse
12, we're talking about one of
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the plagues, actually, talking
about the sixth plague, and the
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sixth plague sort of
leads into the seventh,
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which is the
Second Coming of Christ.
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There's some other things
connected with it, but the sixth
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plague prepares the way for
the Second Coming of Christ.
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So it's got a literal
application, as you mentioned,
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Pastor Doug, but there's
also definitely a spiritual
00:20:18.28\00:20:20.58
application in that you
have the water Euphrates.
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In -- Bible prophecy, it
represents people, multitudes
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and nations and kins and
tongues, and giving their
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support to this spiritual power,
called Babylon, but during the
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plagues, they realized they've
been deceived, and they withdraw
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that support, and the drying
up the river Euphrates is a
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withdrawal of the support that
the people gave or give to this
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religious, political power at
the end, and that is preparing
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the way for the
Second Coming of Christ.
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There's also a counterfeit that
takes place around that time.
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It talks about three unclean
spirits, like frogs, coming out
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of the mouth of the
dragon, out of the beast,
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out of the false prophet.
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This is the devil that is
performing miracles just before
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the Second Coming of Christ.
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So there's a lot
happening in this verse.
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Doug: Yeah, and you actually
see the drying up of the
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Euphrates happening in
Revelation 18, where it talks
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about Babylon, and it says,
"I sit as a queen, and 'No more
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I'll see no sorrow,' she said.
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Therefore her plagues
will come in one day--
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death and mourning and famine.
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And she will be utterly burned
with fire, for strong is the
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Lord who judges her."
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And it goes through that whole
chapter and talks about how she
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is drying up with--economically
and socially and politically,
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and, just, it shows
the--basically, the decimation
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of Babylon happening there.
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Jean: All right,
very good. Thank you, Tim.
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We've got Angela
listening in Illinois.
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Angela, welcome to the program.
00:21:41.90\00:21:44.43
Angela: Oh, hi, Pastor
Ross, and hi, Pastor Doug.
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Doug: Hi.
00:21:47.17\00:21:48.47
Angela: I have a question
in regards to 2 Chronicles 33.
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I was reading about Manasseh,
and I was just wondering, you
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know, although Manasseh humbled
himself, basically, reading all
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of the despicable things that he
did, you know, when Assyria took
00:22:02.52\00:22:08.82
him and he humbled himself and
the Lord restored him, do you
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think that
Manasseh would be saved?
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Doug: You know, it says he
turned back to the Lord God, and
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so assuming that that's the Holy
Spirit working in his life, that
00:22:20.40\00:22:25.84
"since he repaired the altar
of the Lord, he sacrificed peace
00:22:25.87\00:22:28.81
offerings and thank offerings on
it," so he's claiming the mercy
00:22:28.84\00:22:31.98
of God and the blood of the
lamb, "and he commanded Judah to
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serve the Lord God
of Israel," and this is
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in 2 Chronicles 33:16.
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So, and it talks about
his prayer that he prayed.
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There's a record of it that we
don't have in the Bible, but it
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mentions his
prayer of repentance.
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I think Hezekiah, his father,
who is a good king, he's praying
00:22:48.63\00:22:53.27
for his son, before he dies,
and I think God ultimately is
00:22:53.30\00:22:56.57
answering Hezekiah's prayer
that Manasseh would be saved.
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So I know it's despicable what
he did, but God's mercy is so
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great, I think He
even forgave Manasseh.
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Angela: Okay, thank you.
00:23:09.78\00:23:11.09
Doug: You're welcome.
00:23:11.12\00:23:12.42
Thanks so much.
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Jean: Next caller that we
have is Lee listening in Texas.
00:23:13.79\00:23:16.93
Lee, welcome to the program.
00:23:16.96\00:23:19.03
Lee: Yes, sir,
Pastor, thank you.
00:23:19.06\00:23:20.46
Can you hear me?
00:23:20.50\00:23:21.76
Doug: Yes.
00:23:21.80\00:23:23.10
Lee: Okay, my question is
"Can a person still repent
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during the enforcement
of the mark of the beast?"
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Doug: Okay, possibly.
00:23:30.77\00:23:33.21
Now, when you say,
"enforcement," once a person
00:23:33.24\00:23:35.71
receives the mark of the beast,
I believe that they've grieved
00:23:35.74\00:23:38.88
away the Holy Spirit because
it says that the wrath of God
00:23:38.91\00:23:42.62
abides upon them, those who
receive the mark of the beast,
00:23:42.65\00:23:45.99
and you read that in Revelation
14, and, I think, a couple of
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other places, but there'll be a
time when the mark of the beast
00:23:48.89\00:23:53.19
is being issued, and people can
still make choices, but, at some
00:23:53.23\00:23:58.50
point, the sealed are sealed,
and the lost are lost, and
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there's no
forgiveness or repentance.
00:24:01.90\00:24:03.87
Is that your understanding?
00:24:03.91\00:24:05.21
Jean: Yeah, absolutely.
00:24:05.24\00:24:06.54
Of course, the mark of the beast
issue is going to bring--it's
00:24:06.57\00:24:09.28
going to be brought before
everyone, so everyone gets to
00:24:09.31\00:24:11.48
make a choice: Are they
going to go along with man-made
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traditions, or are they going to
be obedient to the Word of God?
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It's at that point, that
critical point, where people are
00:24:15.68\00:24:19.25
either sealed with
the seal, or they receive
00:24:19.29\00:24:21.46
the mark of the beast.
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And then the Bible says
probation closes, and Jesus
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says, "He that is
holy, let him be holy still.
00:24:25.06\00:24:27.50
He that is filthy,
let him be filthy still."
00:24:27.56\00:24:29.93
Probation closes, the seven last
plagues fall, and then Jesus
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comes, so it's a
pretty important time.
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Doug: Says in Revelation
14:11, "They have no rest day or
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night, who worship the beast and
his image, and whoever receives
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the mark of his name."
00:24:43.21\00:24:44.78
So once they receive the mark,
it seems like they settled their
00:24:44.81\00:24:48.35
decision, and
they're lost for eternity.
00:24:48.38\00:24:51.39
Can we squeeze in one
more before the break?
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Jean: Yeah, let's
try Edna in Canada.
00:24:53.19\00:24:55.02
Edna, welcome to the program.
00:24:55.06\00:24:57.46
Edna: Good evening, gentlemen.
00:24:57.49\00:24:59.13
I have a question in regards to
Daniel 12:11 and 12, about the
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1,290 days and the 1,335.
00:25:05.10\00:25:08.57
Where do they fit in,
in this--in the prophecy?
00:25:08.60\00:25:13.81
Doug: Okay, good question.
00:25:13.84\00:25:15.14
You're asking one of the big
questions on--you get more time
00:25:15.18\00:25:19.18
prophecies in Daniel 12, than
anywhere else in the Bible, and
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so it talks about
1,260 days, 1,335, and 1,290,
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not in that order.
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Daniel is dealing with a great
apostasy that happens in the
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church and a great persecution
of God's people in a time of
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trouble, and he, sort of,
is summarizing what he has said
00:25:37.37\00:25:41.30
regarding these
times, earlier in the book.
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And do we have a study written?
00:25:44.97\00:25:48.54
I'm just wondering if we have
something we can send because
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it's sometimes a challenge to go
through Clovis, the king of the
00:25:51.95\00:25:54.45
Franks, and the
1,335, and I don't know
00:25:54.48\00:25:57.22
if you want to
take a stab at it?
00:25:57.25\00:25:58.62
Jean: Yeah, I'm just
wondering, Pastor Doug, you
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bring up a good point.
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Maybe we do need to get a little
book together because we do get
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this question -- time.
00:26:03.39\00:26:04.69
Doug: We get
that question a lot.
00:26:04.73\00:26:06.06
Jean: You know, historically,
the conservative Bible
00:26:06.09\00:26:07.40
theologians, many of the
early reformers, understood the
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principle for a day equals a
year, understood that these time
00:26:10.30\00:26:13.44
periods represent 1,290 years,
or 1,335 years, and they've
00:26:13.47\00:26:19.94
identified a rather important
date for the starting of that
00:26:19.97\00:26:22.81
has been 508, 508 A.D.,
when France or the Franks at the
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time, the King of which was
Clovis, when he converted to
00:26:28.28\00:26:30.99
Christianity and accepted Papal
authority, that really opened up
00:26:31.02\00:26:36.32
for the establishment
of the Papal power--
00:26:36.36\00:26:39.16
Doug: The
religious, political power.
00:26:39.19\00:26:40.73
Jean: --but
throughout western Europe.
00:26:40.76\00:26:43.00
So using that as the starting
date, you end up in 1798.
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If you use the 1,290, and if you
use the 1,335, it goes from 508
00:26:46.40\00:26:51.37
all the way up to 1843, which,
if you study church history, you
00:26:51.41\00:26:56.68
realize that was a very
significant time, a time of
00:26:56.71\00:26:58.85
revival, especially North
America, and that was preparing
00:26:58.88\00:27:02.65
for entering into the time
of judgment at the end of the --
00:27:02.68\00:27:06.02
Doug: Church of
Laodicea, which were
00:27:06.05\00:27:07.52
entered into during that time.
00:27:07.56\00:27:09.42
Well, and there's more to that.
00:27:09.46\00:27:10.69
We really need to do a study on
Daniel 12, so, when people ask,
00:27:10.73\00:27:15.90
we can map it out for them
because it's one of the deepest
00:27:15.93\00:27:19.10
Bible-study
prophecies that's there.
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Jean: My name is Jean Ross,
and we've got a number of folks
00:30:02.26\00:30:04.53
who are waiting,
holding on for a line.
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We've got Bradley
listening in Arizona.
00:30:06.70\00:30:08.87
Bradley, welcome to the program.
00:30:08.90\00:30:11.31
Bradley: Hey, how are
you guys doing tonight?
00:30:11.34\00:30:13.04
I'm glad you took my call, and
my question is--I've been doing
00:30:13.07\00:30:16.81
some studying, and I've
heard some pastors on some other
00:30:16.85\00:30:19.28
satellite stations that made it
sound like Jesus would've come
00:30:19.31\00:30:24.62
the second time already if we
would've, as His people, had our
00:30:24.65\00:30:29.46
act together and gotten a good
word out, and I'm wondering if
00:30:29.49\00:30:34.76
there's any
Scripture that backs that up?
00:30:34.83\00:30:37.73
Doug: Yeah,
actually, I think there is.
00:30:37.77\00:30:40.40
I think you'll agree, Bradley,
that the children of Israel, God
00:30:40.44\00:30:44.21
wanted to bring them into
the Promised Land sooner than He
00:30:44.24\00:30:47.94
did, but because of
their lack of faith,
00:30:47.98\00:30:50.55
they wandered for 40 years.
00:30:50.58\00:30:53.21
You know, Jesus says in Matthew
24:14, he said, "The Gospel of
00:30:53.25\00:30:57.22
the kingdom will go
into all the world."
00:30:57.25\00:30:58.95
I think, if Christians had been
more inspired and diligent to
00:30:58.99\00:31:02.89
share their faith and get the
gospel out, He would've come,
00:31:02.92\00:31:06.70
and there's a verse, if you
look--and this is one of several
00:31:06.73\00:31:09.10
I could probably show you.
00:31:09.13\00:31:10.53
If you look in 2 Peter chapter
3, verse 12, it says, "Looking
00:31:10.57\00:31:15.40
for and hastening the coming of
the day of God, because of which
00:31:15.44\00:31:20.28
the heavens will be dissolved,
being on fire, and the elements
00:31:20.31\00:31:23.14
will melt with fervent heat?"
00:31:23.18\00:31:25.11
And he says that we should
be "looking for and hastening."
00:31:25.15\00:31:28.38
So how do we hasten?
00:31:28.42\00:31:29.65
Well, it said everyone needs to
hear the gospel even though they
00:31:29.68\00:31:32.12
may not all believe.
00:31:32.15\00:31:33.62
It goes out as a
witness to all nations.
00:31:33.66\00:31:35.56
So, I think--and there's a lot
of other verses, I think, that
00:31:35.59\00:31:40.13
imply that--I mean, God
knows--He knows everything.
00:31:40.16\00:31:42.93
He knows when
He's going to come.
00:31:42.96\00:31:44.33
He knew the children of
Israel were going to wander
00:31:44.37\00:31:46.17
longer than they needed to.
00:31:46.20\00:31:47.60
So it's not like God's been
surprised, but as far as our
00:31:47.64\00:31:51.24
responsibility, things
could've happened sooner
00:31:51.27\00:31:55.08
if we had been more diligent.
00:31:55.11\00:31:58.41
Jean: All right, very
good. Well, thank you, Bradley.
00:31:58.45\00:32:00.15
Good question.
00:32:00.18\00:32:01.48
We've got Ann
listening in Minnesota.
00:32:01.52\00:32:02.92
Ann, welcome to the program.
00:32:02.95\00:32:05.39
Ann: Hi, Pastor,
thanks for taking my call.
00:32:05.42\00:32:07.42
Doug: Thank you.
00:32:07.46\00:32:08.76
Ann: My question today is
"Can the Bible be an idol?"
00:32:08.79\00:32:12.89
Doug: Well, I think so.
00:32:12.93\00:32:14.20
You know, I think some people
take a big family Bible, and
00:32:14.23\00:32:16.90
they put it on the coffee table
in the living room, and they'll
00:32:16.93\00:32:19.00
put flowers in it, and they'll
tell everyone to, you know, dust
00:32:19.03\00:32:22.14
it, and they don't ever read it.
00:32:22.17\00:32:25.31
So it's like they've got--they
say, "We've got this Holy Book,"
00:32:25.34\00:32:27.84
and they might kneel in
front of it and pray to it,
00:32:27.88\00:32:29.88
and you could
make a Bible an idol.
00:32:29.91\00:32:32.18
Not too many people do
that, but, technically,
00:32:32.21\00:32:35.22
I suppose you could.
00:32:35.25\00:32:36.55
They're not reading it
and following its teaching.
00:32:36.58\00:32:38.35
It's like they're revering just
the book for being a Holy Book.
00:32:38.39\00:32:42.22
Jean: Now, there is
something to treating
00:32:42.26\00:32:43.59
the Bible with reverence.
00:32:43.63\00:32:44.96
Doug: Yeah, we should.
00:32:44.99\00:32:46.29
Jean: You don't just
treat it like any other book.
00:32:46.33\00:32:47.60
It is the Word of God.
00:32:47.66\00:32:48.93
Doug: But we
don't pray to the Bible.
00:32:48.96\00:32:50.27
Jean: No, there's no--I
mean, it's the words in the book
00:32:50.30\00:32:51.87
that have the power--
00:32:51.90\00:32:53.23
--not the book,
in and of itself.
00:32:53.27\00:32:54.64
Doug: True.
00:32:54.67\00:32:56.00
Jean: Does that
help, Anna--or Ann?
00:32:56.04\00:32:57.34
Ann: Yes, it does. Thank you.
00:32:57.37\00:32:58.77
Jean: All right, you're welcome.
00:32:58.81\00:33:00.18
Thanks.
00:33:00.21\00:33:01.51
We've got Grace
listening in California.
00:33:01.54\00:33:02.84
Grace, welcome to the program.
00:33:02.88\00:33:04.31
Grace: Hi, Pastor
Doug and Pastor Ross.
00:33:04.35\00:33:06.18
Good evening.
00:33:06.21\00:33:07.52
Doug: Evening.
00:33:07.55\00:33:09.28
Grace: My question is about
is it good for a Christian to
00:33:09.32\00:33:12.72
take a student loan?
00:33:12.75\00:33:16.09
Doug: Well, the principle in
the Bible, as far as possible,
00:33:16.12\00:33:20.46
we should avoid debt.
00:33:20.50\00:33:22.83
You've got examples, where
it says, you know, the borrow is
00:33:22.86\00:33:25.23
servant to the lender.
00:33:25.27\00:33:27.40
There's a story in the Bible
in 2 Kings chapter 4, where this
00:33:27.44\00:33:32.34
wife, she was married to
one of the sons of the prophets.
00:33:32.37\00:33:35.61
Her husband takes out a loan for
some land or something, and he
00:33:35.64\00:33:38.91
dies, leaving the family in
debt, and the children are about
00:33:38.95\00:33:41.85
to be sold off, and she's
terribly anxious and suffering
00:33:41.88\00:33:46.29
because of this debt, so,
but maybe he had no choice.
00:33:46.32\00:33:51.09
Some people will never get
through school or buy a home
00:33:51.13\00:33:53.63
unless they take out loans, but
you don't want to borrow more
00:33:53.66\00:33:57.03
than you can really handle.
00:33:57.07\00:33:59.10
I think we saw, a few years ago,
this terrible home-loan crisis
00:33:59.13\00:34:03.20
in North America.
00:34:03.24\00:34:04.77
The banks were giving away loans
to people that really weren't
00:34:04.81\00:34:07.84
qualified, and then, when
the market imploded, thousands,
00:34:07.88\00:34:12.95
millions of people lost their
homes because they took on too
00:34:12.98\00:34:16.08
much debt, and
it was very tragic.
00:34:16.12\00:34:18.35
So, you know, sometimes the only
way that you're going to get
00:34:18.39\00:34:21.36
through school or
get a home is to make--
00:34:21.39\00:34:25.76
take on a responsible debt.
00:34:25.79\00:34:27.20
Just make sure you don't get in
over your head or what you can
00:34:27.23\00:34:29.63
reasonably pay.
00:34:29.66\00:34:31.80
And so you need to pray
about that, but it's not a sin.
00:34:31.83\00:34:35.40
Jean: You know, Pastor Doug,
we also have the book written
00:34:35.44\00:34:37.87
about what the Bible has to
say about debt, and we actually
00:34:37.91\00:34:41.01
advertise that book during our
break with the program here, and
00:34:41.04\00:34:44.15
we'll be happy to send that to--
00:34:44.18\00:34:46.21
Doug: Yeah, "Freedom From Debt."
00:34:46.25\00:34:47.55
Jean: --yeah,
we'll be happy to send it
00:34:47.58\00:34:48.88
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:34:48.92\00:34:50.22
The number is 800-835-6747,
and the book, again,
00:34:50.25\00:34:52.45
Pastor Doug, I'm looking for--
00:34:52.49\00:34:53.79
Doug: "Freedom from Debt."
Jean: "Freedom from Debt."
00:34:53.82\00:34:55.19
Doug: It may not
be in our list here.
00:34:55.22\00:34:56.56
Jean: It's a newer book.
00:34:56.59\00:34:57.89
We'll be happy to send
it to anyone who calls.
00:34:57.93\00:34:59.26
In Canada and the U.S.,
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00:34:59.29\00:35:01.43
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00:35:01.46\00:35:02.76
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Next caller that we have
is Dennis listening in Oregon.
00:35:10.91\00:35:13.21
Dennis, welcome to the program.
00:35:13.24\00:35:15.44
Dennis: Hello,
pastors, good evening.
00:35:15.48\00:35:18.61
Yeah, my question is--go back to
the beginning here, Genesis 1,
00:35:18.65\00:35:24.92
verse 28, talks about
"Go forth and multiply."
00:35:24.95\00:35:29.92
Well, my understanding is Adam
and Eve only had three sons.
00:35:29.96\00:35:35.16
I wonder how this is
supposed to be possible?
00:35:35.20\00:35:38.27
Doug: Well, you
have to go to chapter 5.
00:35:38.30\00:35:40.04
You got your
Bible in front of you?
00:35:40.07\00:35:41.90
Dennis: Yes, I do.
00:35:41.94\00:35:43.24
Doug: Okay, go to chapter
5, and it tells about the first
00:35:43.27\00:35:45.71
three sons, but
there were many others.
00:35:45.74\00:35:47.88
You look in verse 4, and it
says, "After he begot Seth, the
00:35:47.91\00:35:51.55
days of Adam were 800 years,
and he had sons and daughters."
00:35:51.58\00:35:56.35
So, Adam and Eve, living all
those years--and I'm sure they
00:35:56.38\00:35:58.82
were fertile for many years.
00:35:58.85\00:36:00.62
God told them, "Be fruitful and
multiply," and she may have had
00:36:00.66\00:36:04.83
several sets of twins.
00:36:04.86\00:36:06.33
I heard, I think, the record
is one woman had 69 children.
00:36:06.36\00:36:11.50
That's the
record as far as I know.
00:36:11.53\00:36:12.93
It's been years ago,
but I think on Mother's Day,
00:36:12.97\00:36:14.77
years ago, I did that.
00:36:14.80\00:36:16.10
One woman had 69 children,
several sets of twins, I think,
00:36:16.14\00:36:19.27
one or two sets of triplets.
00:36:19.31\00:36:22.14
And Eve was
probably perfectly fertile,
00:36:22.18\00:36:26.58
and they had lots of children.
00:36:26.61\00:36:28.32
It says they had sons and
daughters, so it just mentions
00:36:28.35\00:36:30.69
the first three because they
were the oldest boys, and they
00:36:30.72\00:36:33.72
sort of played into the story.
00:36:33.76\00:36:36.06
Jean: All right,
very good. Thank you.
00:36:36.09\00:36:37.99
Next caller that we have,
let's see, Ruth from Missouri.
00:36:38.03\00:36:40.30
Ruth, welcome to the program.
00:36:40.33\00:36:42.83
Ruth: Hi, good evening, pastors.
00:36:42.86\00:36:44.20
Doug: Yeah.
00:36:44.23\00:36:46.03
Ruth: According to
Revelation 1:7, there is special
00:36:46.07\00:36:50.14
resurrection for the wicked.
00:36:50.17\00:36:52.24
Is there a special resurrection
of the righteous, and would it
00:36:52.27\00:36:55.88
be at the same time as
the special resurrection
00:36:55.91\00:36:58.18
of the wicked?
00:36:58.21\00:36:59.81
Doug: Well, there have been
some righteous that have already
00:36:59.85\00:37:02.62
been specially resurrected.
00:37:02.65\00:37:04.82
Of course, the Lord performed a
special resurrection for Moses.
00:37:04.85\00:37:10.63
And Moses was
buried, and it says
00:37:10.66\00:37:13.90
that he evidently is in heaven.
00:37:13.93\00:37:15.43
He appears in Mark
chapter 9, with Elijah.
00:37:15.46\00:37:19.23
We know Elijah wasn't raised.
00:37:19.27\00:37:20.60
He was translated as was Enoch.
00:37:20.64\00:37:23.37
And then, at the death of
Christ, in Matthew 27, says,
00:37:23.41\00:37:25.97
"Many graves were opened
following the earthquake when
00:37:26.01\00:37:28.98
Jesus died, and those people
came out of the grave, many of
00:37:29.01\00:37:31.78
the saved around Jerusalem.
00:37:31.81\00:37:33.65
They appeared to people in
the city, and they ascended to
00:37:33.68\00:37:35.62
heaven when Jesus ascended.
00:37:35.65\00:37:37.79
So that was a special
resurrection for the righteous.
00:37:37.82\00:37:40.62
The rest of the righteous
rise when the Lord comes.
00:37:40.66\00:37:43.12
I don't believe there's any
special resurrection prior to
00:37:43.16\00:37:45.49
the Second Coming.
00:37:45.53\00:37:46.76
Some may get out of the graves a
little bit prior so they can see
00:37:46.80\00:37:50.07
Him coming, but it's
basically the day of His coming.
00:37:50.10\00:37:53.00
Jean: Mm-hmm.
00:37:53.03\00:37:54.57
Doug: So, and then, there's
a special resurrection for the
00:37:54.60\00:37:57.14
wicked who were involved in
condemning and torturing and
00:37:57.17\00:38:04.01
persecuting Jesus
around the scenes of the cross.
00:38:04.05\00:38:07.08
That's what you referred
to there in Revelation 1:7.
00:38:07.12\00:38:11.32
So, yeah, good question.
00:38:11.35\00:38:13.69
But the general
resurrection, the dead in
00:38:13.72\00:38:15.62
the Christ rise first.
00:38:15.66\00:38:17.29
Thousand years later,
all the rest of the dead,
00:38:17.33\00:38:20.20
the wicked are raised.
00:38:20.23\00:38:21.66
Jean: All right, next
caller that we have, I believe,
00:38:21.70\00:38:23.00
is Giselle from Michigan.
00:38:23.03\00:38:26.40
Giselle: Thank you
for taking my call.
00:38:26.43\00:38:27.77
I'm a little sick, so I hope
I'm clear, but I have a question
00:38:27.80\00:38:31.57
regarding the Sabbath.
00:38:31.61\00:38:33.98
So is the Fourth Commandment, in
Exodus chapter 20, regarding a
00:38:34.01\00:38:39.28
literal seven-day week, or
is the Sabbath to be kept as a
00:38:39.31\00:38:42.75
Lunar Sabbath, like, on a
lunar cycle, like it would--like
00:38:42.78\00:38:46.96
described in,
like, Leviticus 23?
00:38:46.99\00:38:50.06
Doug: Yes, okay, a good
question, and there's, you know,
00:38:50.09\00:38:54.03
there's some Sabbatarians out
there that are convinced that
00:38:54.10\00:38:57.33
the Sabbath is just to
be governed by the moon, but
00:38:57.37\00:39:01.44
historically, the Sabbath, it
began at Creation on the seventh
00:39:01.47\00:39:05.47
day of the week, and there's
a seven-day cycle that's totally
00:39:05.51\00:39:08.78
independent
from the lunar cycle.
00:39:08.81\00:39:10.71
One, two, three, four, five,
six, seven, the days of the
00:39:10.75\00:39:12.68
week, we still
follow now, today.
00:39:12.71\00:39:15.58
It's interesting that the whole
world follows the seven-day
00:39:15.62\00:39:17.69
week, and there's nothing
in astronomy that would give us
00:39:17.72\00:39:20.79
that, that's, you know, reason
the world has a moon was about
00:39:20.82\00:39:24.29
30 days is--a month with about
30 days is because of the moon,
00:39:24.33\00:39:28.03
and we all have a year with
365 days because of the earth's
00:39:28.06\00:39:31.47
orbit around the sun and a day
with 24 hours because it rotates
00:39:31.50\00:39:35.20
in that time on its axis.
00:39:35.24\00:39:37.67
There's nothing in the sun,
moon, earth, stars, that gives
00:39:37.71\00:39:39.97
us a seven-day week.
00:39:40.01\00:39:41.31
That purely comes from Creation,
and the seventh-day Sabbath is
00:39:41.34\00:39:45.78
governed by
just the weekly cycle
00:39:45.81\00:39:48.35
of a sequence of seven days.
00:39:48.38\00:39:50.59
Jean: And, I think, the
Fourth Commandment itself makes
00:39:50.62\00:39:52.49
it very clear.
00:39:52.52\00:39:53.76
Says, "For in six days, the Lord
made the heavens, the earth, the
00:39:53.79\00:39:56.73
sea, and He rested
on the seventh day."
00:39:56.76\00:39:58.06
This is not talking about
a monthly Sabbath, but it's
00:39:58.09\00:39:59.69
talking about a weekly Sabbath.
00:39:59.73\00:40:01.20
Doug: Yeah, and that
seventh day was followed
00:40:01.23\00:40:02.76
by another first day.
00:40:02.80\00:40:04.10
Jean: That's right.
00:40:04.13\00:40:05.47
Doug: And it just
kept going like that.
00:40:05.50\00:40:06.84
And you've got the
Jewish nation that's kept it
00:40:06.87\00:40:08.20
that way for 3,000 years.
00:40:08.24\00:40:09.87
Jean: All right, we've got
Gerald listening in Montana.
00:40:09.90\00:40:11.81
Gerald, welcome to the program.
00:40:11.84\00:40:14.54
Gerald: Good evening, Pastor.
00:40:14.58\00:40:16.18
Doug: Evening.
00:40:16.21\00:40:17.51
Gerald: I got a question.
00:40:17.55\00:40:19.51
You know, the Bible says
we can eat the clean meats.
00:40:19.55\00:40:23.75
And you get into, I think, it's
the 14th chapter of Samuel, and
00:40:23.79\00:40:27.99
it goes-- said that
eating the blood is a sin.
00:40:28.02\00:40:33.03
Doug: Yes.
00:40:33.06\00:40:34.63
Gerald: Now, my question is
this: If we consider the clean
00:40:34.66\00:40:38.53
meats today, most of it, I,
myself, I grew up in a logging
00:40:38.57\00:40:45.24
camp for years, and the
blood's still in the meat.
00:40:45.27\00:40:50.91
Doug: Right.
00:40:50.95\00:40:52.58
Gerald: How do we
reconcile the two thoughts?
00:40:52.61\00:40:55.35
Doug: Well, you know, I can't
account for what people may do.
00:40:55.38\00:40:59.55
All I can do is tell you what
the Bible says, and the Bible
00:40:59.59\00:41:02.52
says, all the way
from the beginning--
00:41:02.56\00:41:04.06
this is not a Jewish law.
00:41:04.09\00:41:05.39
God even gave it to Noah.
00:41:05.43\00:41:06.73
And, everyone listening, if
you didn't know this, we are all
00:41:06.76\00:41:09.66
brothers and sisters because
we are all related to Noah.
00:41:09.70\00:41:12.80
And He said
we're not to eat blood.
00:41:12.83\00:41:15.30
It's not only in
the Old Testament.
00:41:15.34\00:41:16.77
If you look in Acts chapter 15,
it says they were not, even the
00:41:16.81\00:41:20.01
Gentiles, not to eat blood.
00:41:20.04\00:41:22.18
And God clearly told people
that, even when they eat the
00:41:22.21\00:41:26.35
clean animals, they were to
butcher them, so they typically
00:41:26.38\00:41:29.25
cut the throat, and they
would drain the blood out.
00:41:29.28\00:41:31.75
Now, that doesn't mean there
would be no blood cells left in
00:41:31.79\00:41:34.39
the body because that's, you
know, hard to do that, but they
00:41:34.42\00:41:37.13
were to principally
drain out the blood.
00:41:37.16\00:41:39.93
Most of them, meat you
buy, clean meats you buy in the
00:41:39.96\00:41:42.13
market, when they're butchered,
they drain the blood out.
00:41:42.16\00:41:46.50
I don't know what happened
in your logging camp, and I know
00:41:46.53\00:41:49.34
some people eat blood sausage
where they don't drain the blood
00:41:49.37\00:41:52.07
out because they
want it juicy but--yeah.
00:41:52.11\00:41:56.64
Disease can be transferred
from animal to animal, and some
00:41:56.68\00:42:00.95
animals have disease in their
blood, and by consuming that, we
00:42:00.98\00:42:04.39
can actually pick up
disease from animals,
00:42:04.42\00:42:07.82
and God knew what He was saying.
00:42:07.86\00:42:09.16
He not only said that.
00:42:09.19\00:42:10.49
He said, "Don't eat the fat."
00:42:10.53\00:42:11.96
So, you know, so, I remember,
as a kid, I ate a lot of steak,
00:42:11.99\00:42:14.83
and I liked that.
00:42:14.83\00:42:16.67
When people were done, I'd
say, "Can I have your fat?"
00:42:16.70\00:42:19.63
I mean, it kind of grosses me
out to even think about it now
00:42:19.67\00:42:22.00
but--because that's where all
the toxins are stored, and God
00:42:22.04\00:42:26.14
said you shouldn't eat that.
00:42:26.17\00:42:27.48
Now people are pretty wise.
00:42:27.51\00:42:28.81
They understand cholesterol, and
they say, "You know, God knew
00:42:28.84\00:42:30.55
what he was talking about.
00:42:30.58\00:42:31.88
We shouldn't be
eating animal fat."
00:42:31.91\00:42:33.21
That's almost pure cholesterol.
00:42:33.25\00:42:34.62
Anyway, I hope that helps a
little bit, but, yeah, try it.
00:42:34.65\00:42:38.52
You can buy meat that
doesn't have the blood in it.
00:42:38.55\00:42:41.16
Clean meats, I mean.
00:42:41.19\00:42:42.56
Jean: You know, we
have a study guide.
00:42:42.59\00:42:43.89
It's called
"God's Free Health Plan."
00:42:43.93\00:42:45.23
Talks about what the
Bible says about food
00:42:45.26\00:42:46.76
and clean and unclean meats.
00:42:46.80\00:42:48.33
The number to call
for that is 800-835-6747.
00:42:48.36\00:42:52.13
And, again, just
ask for the study guide.
00:42:52.17\00:42:53.67
It's called
"God's Free Health Plan."
00:42:53.70\00:42:55.14
You can also dial "#250."
00:42:55.17\00:42:57.41
Say, "Bible Answers Live," and
say, "I'd like the study guide
00:42:57.44\00:43:00.84
called "God's Free Health
Plan," and we'll send it to you.
00:43:00.88\00:43:04.61
We've got Israel
listening in California.
00:43:04.65\00:43:06.98
Israel, welcome to the program.
00:43:07.02\00:43:10.22
Israel: Hi, thanks
for taking my call.
00:43:10.25\00:43:11.99
Doug: Yeah.
00:43:12.02\00:43:13.46
Israel: My question is--it's
concerning June 7 and, in
00:43:13.49\00:43:18.59
particular, the very end
of it where it talks about the
00:43:18.63\00:43:21.90
punishment of eternal fire.
00:43:21.93\00:43:24.50
I was raised to, you know,
believe in a literal hell, and
00:43:24.53\00:43:28.57
I'm trying to get over that, and
I, just, I wondered if maybe you
00:43:28.60\00:43:31.81
could explain the, you know,
the translation here in Jude 7.
00:43:31.84\00:43:37.55
Doug: Yeah, let me
read the whole verse.
00:43:37.58\00:43:39.38
And Jude is calling people to
repentance, and in Jude, there's
00:43:39.41\00:43:42.48
only one chapter, so it's Jude,
verse 7, and it says, "As Sodom
00:43:42.52\00:43:46.89
and Gomorrah, and the cities
around them in similar manner to
00:43:46.92\00:43:49.89
those, having given themselves
over to sexual immorality and
00:43:49.92\00:43:53.93
going after strange flesh--" so
he's--first, he puts Sodom and
00:43:53.96\00:43:58.33
Gomorrah as an example, and he
says, "are an example, suffering
00:43:58.37\00:44:03.30
the vengeance of eternal fire."
00:44:03.34\00:44:05.27
Well, if you read similar verse
here in Peter, it says that
00:44:05.31\00:44:08.78
Sodom and Gomorrah
were turned to ashes.
00:44:08.81\00:44:11.31
They're not still burning.
00:44:11.35\00:44:12.65
So eternal fire doesn't
mean it burns eternally.
00:44:12.68\00:44:15.05
Eternal fire means that
what the fire did lasts forever.
00:44:15.08\00:44:19.79
Sodom and Gomorrah
were never rebuilt.
00:44:19.82\00:44:22.02
The results of
the fire are forever.
00:44:22.06\00:44:23.66
The wicked are
consumed with eternal fire.
00:44:23.69\00:44:26.90
The result of
that fire is eternal.
00:44:26.93\00:44:29.83
Jean: "Wages of Sin," the
Bible says, "is death," so the
00:44:29.86\00:44:32.63
fire destroys them,
and they are dead forever.
00:44:32.67\00:44:35.74
Doug: All you have to do is
go to the south end of the Dead
00:44:35.77\00:44:38.24
Sea, and you can see
where Sodom and Gomorrah were,
00:44:38.27\00:44:40.84
and they are not there anymore.
00:44:40.88\00:44:42.21
They're burnt up. They're gone.
00:44:42.24\00:44:44.21
Hey, thank you.
Appreciate your call.
00:44:44.25\00:44:46.31
Jean: We've got Shauna
listening in Washington.
00:44:46.35\00:44:47.65
Shauna, welcome to the program.
00:44:47.68\00:44:49.22
Shauna: Good evening, pastors.
00:44:49.25\00:44:50.59
Thank you.
00:44:50.62\00:44:51.95
Doug: Evening.
00:44:51.99\00:44:53.29
Shauna: My question is
in Joshua chapter 7, and
00:44:53.32\00:44:55.89
specifically verses 24 and 25.
00:44:55.92\00:44:59.76
Doug: Aren't you--would you
like me to read that for folks?
00:44:59.79\00:45:02.96
Shauna: Sure.
00:45:03.00\00:45:04.47
Doug: Okay, Joshua 7:24, "And
Joshua, and all Israel with him,
00:45:04.50\00:45:08.47
took Achan the son of Zerah, and
the silver and the garment and
00:45:08.50\00:45:12.07
the wedge of gold, his sons
and his daughters, his oxen, his
00:45:12.11\00:45:15.08
donkey, his sheep, and his tent,
and all that he had, and brought
00:45:15.11\00:45:18.35
them to the valley of Achor.
00:45:18.38\00:45:20.45
And Joshua said,
'Why have you troubled us?
00:45:20.48\00:45:22.62
The Lord will trouble you this
day.' So all Israel stoned him
00:45:22.65\00:45:26.35
with stones and
burned them with fire after
00:45:26.39\00:45:28.96
they had stoned
him with stones."
00:45:28.99\00:45:30.83
And they raise a great
heap of stones on them.
00:45:30.86\00:45:32.79
So are you wondering
why did the whole family die
00:45:32.83\00:45:35.13
for the sin of Achan?
00:45:35.16\00:45:37.53
Shauna: Yes, I am.
00:45:37.57\00:45:39.00
Doug: Okay, now, yeah,
that's a good question.
00:45:39.03\00:45:40.60
That's why I
kind of preempted it.
00:45:40.64\00:45:42.74
Well, it's understood that he
hid--it says in the text he hid
00:45:42.77\00:45:47.58
the stolen objects
from Jericho in the tent
00:45:47.61\00:45:50.58
under a carpet, presumably.
00:45:50.61\00:45:52.71
Everybody in the family knew.
00:45:52.75\00:45:55.15
God gave them all a
chance to repent and confess
00:45:55.18\00:45:57.75
what had happened.
00:45:57.79\00:45:59.09
They had been strictly told
don't take any bounty or booty
00:45:59.12\00:46:02.59
from the city of
Jericho when it was destroyed.
00:46:02.62\00:46:04.93
It was all to be
consecrated to the Lord.
00:46:04.96\00:46:07.23
Well, they stole, and the family
conspired with him, and so not
00:46:07.23\00:46:11.77
only was the family destroyed
but all their possessions, yes,
00:46:11.80\00:46:14.84
including their
livestock was destroyed.
00:46:14.87\00:46:17.61
It was sort of complete
annihilation of the family, and
00:46:17.64\00:46:20.91
it is--it's kind of set forth
as an example of what happens in
00:46:20.94\00:46:23.85
the last days to those
that turn against the Lord
00:46:23.88\00:46:28.18
and with a covetous heart.
00:46:28.22\00:46:30.19
We are lost, and we
take people with us.
00:46:30.22\00:46:33.05
Achan's sin affected his family.
00:46:33.09\00:46:36.12
So I know it sounds pretty
severe, but because of the sin
00:46:36.16\00:46:39.79
of Achan, several soldiers died
in battle when they went against
00:46:39.83\00:46:43.23
Ai, and so he and his family had
the blood of many of the other
00:46:43.26\00:46:47.97
Israelites on their hands.
00:46:48.00\00:46:50.27
Jean: All right,
thank you, Shauna.
00:46:50.31\00:46:51.67
We've got Bob
listening in Washington.
00:46:51.71\00:46:53.21
Bob, welcome to the program.
00:46:53.24\00:46:55.68
Bob: Hey, brothers,
thank you very much.
00:46:55.71\00:46:57.68
Doug: Thanks for calling.
00:46:57.71\00:46:59.95
Bob: My question is "How
should a Christian think about
00:47:00.05\00:47:03.12
UFOs and these things
people see in the sky?
00:47:03.15\00:47:07.56
Could there be a connection
between those UFOs and Satan?"
00:47:07.59\00:47:13.83
Doug: Could be.
00:47:13.86\00:47:15.60
I've got a good friend--he's
passed away now--named Joe
00:47:15.63\00:47:18.33
Maniscalco, who actually wrote
a book, an illustrated book, on
00:47:18.37\00:47:22.74
he thought a lot of the UFO
sightings were satanic to get
00:47:22.77\00:47:26.94
people distracted from God and
angels, and they were sort of
00:47:26.98\00:47:30.88
creating a
different worldview by this.
00:47:30.91\00:47:34.62
And I don't know that.
00:47:34.65\00:47:35.95
I know that, as a
pilot, I've seen a few UFOs.
00:47:35.98\00:47:39.22
Now, UFO, keep in mind, just
means an "unidentified flying
00:47:39.25\00:47:42.49
object," and my wife and I
tracked down a UFO once, and we
00:47:42.52\00:47:45.93
found out that it was a
large metallic red balloon.
00:47:45.96\00:47:50.03
I said, "Dear, what is that?
00:47:50.07\00:47:51.37
It's a UFO."
00:47:51.40\00:47:52.70
We flew towards it,
which probably isn't wise
00:47:52.73\00:47:54.04
if you think it's an alien.
00:47:54.07\00:47:56.00
And we felt so silly.
00:47:56.04\00:47:58.57
We got over there, and it
was just one of these balloons.
00:47:58.61\00:48:00.51
Someone had let a big balloon
go from a party, and it was just
00:48:00.54\00:48:02.91
hovering in space.
00:48:02.94\00:48:04.45
Our government shot
down a balloon not long ago.
00:48:04.48\00:48:06.98
One was dangerous, and one was
not, heh, so a lot of the UFOs,
00:48:07.02\00:48:11.75
I'd say, 99% of the UFOs that
you hear about, if they're not
00:48:11.79\00:48:16.29
manufactured in people's
imaginations, I think a lot of
00:48:16.32\00:48:18.96
them can be explained
with astronomy or with
00:48:18.99\00:48:22.36
just the reflections of light.
00:48:22.40\00:48:25.17
I've seen some strange
things out there, flying.
00:48:25.20\00:48:28.24
I've seen clouds, and the
sun hit them, and there was one
00:48:28.27\00:48:30.27
little cloud all by
itself, and I thought, for sure,
00:48:30.31\00:48:32.94
it was a UFO.
00:48:32.97\00:48:34.51
One quick story of one of
my UFO stories, real quick.
00:48:34.54\00:48:37.45
I lived on a
sailboat in the Mediterranean.
00:48:37.48\00:48:39.38
I was on night watch with
three friends--two friends.
00:48:39.41\00:48:42.15
Three of us.
00:48:42.18\00:48:44.02
And, one night, we
saw--we looked out.
00:48:44.05\00:48:45.95
While we're keeping watch,
we saw a UFO coming towards us.
00:48:45.99\00:48:49.86
This UFO was shining in the
night sky, and it was coming
00:48:49.89\00:48:53.46
towards our boat,
and I called them over.
00:48:53.50\00:48:55.30
They looked at it.
00:48:55.33\00:48:56.63
We wondered whether we
should go wake up the captain.
00:48:56.67\00:48:58.50
And then, pretty soon, we
realized it was the sun rising,
00:48:58.53\00:49:01.97
and just the way that it
was coming up, it looked like
00:49:02.00\00:49:04.37
a flying saucer.
00:49:04.41\00:49:05.74
There was a little spot in the
clouds, but it looked like it,
00:49:05.77\00:49:08.08
and it kept
getting bigger and bigger.
00:49:08.11\00:49:09.51
We thought it was coming.
00:49:09.54\00:49:11.21
So, yeah, I feel really
stupid now, but you've probably
00:49:11.25\00:49:13.55
all got a laugh.
00:49:13.58\00:49:15.22
Anyway, so, yeah, you know,
there are some things--the devil
00:49:15.25\00:49:19.22
could create illusions.
00:49:19.25\00:49:21.26
It's hard to
know which are which.
00:49:21.29\00:49:22.92
Jean: Right, absolutely.
00:49:22.96\00:49:24.26
All right, well, thank you.
00:49:24.29\00:49:25.59
Lauren, listening in Maryland.
00:49:25.63\00:49:27.36
Lauren, welcome to the program.
00:49:27.40\00:49:29.73
Lauren: Hey, good
afternoon, Pastor.
00:49:29.76\00:49:31.83
Thanks for
taking my call tonight.
00:49:31.87\00:49:33.23
Doug: Yeah.
00:49:33.27\00:49:34.70
Lauren: I've learned
so much from you guys.
00:49:34.74\00:49:36.81
Doug: Thank you.
00:49:36.84\00:49:38.14
Lauren: But the question I
have here is, like, Genesis 1,
00:49:38.17\00:49:44.78
of 1:1-2, "In the beginning God
created the heaven and earth,"
00:49:44.81\00:49:50.72
and, 2, "And the earth
was without form," and I was
00:49:50.75\00:49:54.72
wondering, I read Isaiah 45:18,
I think, and it said that God
00:49:54.76\00:50:02.30
creates everything to be good
and everything that God creates
00:50:02.33\00:50:06.17
is good, and I was wondering
how the earth became void and
00:50:06.20\00:50:13.07
formless and dark, if something
happened between Genesis 1 and
00:50:13.11\00:50:18.28
2, and if that had to
do with the fall of Lucifer
00:50:18.31\00:50:23.08
that caused that to happen?
00:50:23.12\00:50:25.55
Doug: Okay, I think I
understand your question.
00:50:25.59\00:50:28.06
Well, you may be assuming that,
because the earth was without
00:50:28.09\00:50:32.26
form and void, that it was bad.
00:50:32.29\00:50:35.93
Everything God does is good.
00:50:35.96\00:50:37.40
So, when God created the
material for the earth, it
00:50:37.43\00:50:42.44
doesn't mean it was bad.
00:50:42.47\00:50:43.77
It's no worse than a lump of
un-shapen clay before the artist
00:50:43.81\00:50:46.94
gets ahold of it.
00:50:46.98\00:50:48.28
It's nothing bad about the clay.
00:50:48.31\00:50:49.61
It's just not been modeled yet.
00:50:49.64\00:50:52.08
And so, the world, when God made
it, it didn't have the waters
00:50:52.11\00:50:55.92
separated from the waters,
and it didn't--it was kind of
00:50:55.95\00:50:58.69
shapeless, and God, you know, He
rolled up His sleeves and said,
00:50:58.72\00:51:02.36
"Oh, I can't wait to get
to work with my material."
00:51:02.39\00:51:04.03
So it was just saying that there
is this raw material He was
00:51:04.06\00:51:07.03
going to create from was there.
00:51:07.03\00:51:09.06
It wasn't bad.
00:51:09.10\00:51:10.40
Everything God does is
good and even the void, earth,
00:51:10.43\00:51:13.47
was good at that point.
00:51:13.50\00:51:14.97
Jean: There was no life on
the earth, just to clarify, so
00:51:15.00\00:51:17.64
it's not like God created the
earth and then somehow it was
00:51:17.67\00:51:20.78
destroyed, and then He
had to re-create the earth.
00:51:20.81\00:51:23.11
That was all
part of the process.
00:51:23.14\00:51:24.75
Doug: Yeah, it was a great
big lump of clay, so to speak,
00:51:24.78\00:51:27.32
something for Him to work with,
and He took those elements and
00:51:27.35\00:51:31.72
shaped them, and
that's what He did with man.
00:51:31.75\00:51:33.66
Says He took the
dust, made a man out of it.
00:51:33.69\00:51:35.96
The dust wasn't bad, and He
created a human from the clay.
00:51:35.99\00:51:40.90
Jean: Okay, next caller that
we have, Valerie in California.
00:51:40.93\00:51:43.63
Valeria, welcome to the program.
00:51:43.67\00:51:46.13
Valerie: Hi, how
are you, pastors?
00:51:46.17\00:51:47.84
Doug: Doing good.
00:51:47.87\00:51:49.17
Thank you for calling.
00:51:49.20\00:51:50.51
Valerie: Oh, thank
you for taking my call.
00:51:50.54\00:51:52.24
My question is, Pastor Doug,
I've heard you preach before
00:51:52.27\00:51:55.38
regarding Jesus turning water to
wine, and then, as I was doing
00:51:55.41\00:52:00.72
my daily devotional on Numbers,
in the book of Numbers chapter
00:52:00.75\00:52:05.39
6, and I'm focusing on verse 3,
because I've never really read
00:52:05.42\00:52:10.73
the word "grape juice" in the
Bible before, and here, on this
00:52:10.76\00:52:14.56
Scripture 3, it talks about wine
and other fermented drink, and
00:52:14.56\00:52:20.17
it also mentions grape juice.
00:52:20.20\00:52:22.77
So my question is why wouldn't
the word "grape juice" be in the
00:52:22.80\00:52:28.58
other verse where he
turns water into wine?
00:52:28.61\00:52:32.45
Because that's like one of
the biggest conversations I have
00:52:32.48\00:52:35.65
with people who still drink.
00:52:35.68\00:52:37.49
They say, "Well, Jesus
turned the water to wine."
00:52:37.52\00:52:40.52
So I was really surprised when
I read that "grape juice" word.
00:52:40.56\00:52:43.56
Doug: Can I ask you,
what version of the Bible
00:52:43.59\00:52:45.49
are you reading?
00:52:45.53\00:52:47.03
Valerie: I've read it in the
New King James Version because
00:52:47.10\00:52:49.60
that's my main Bible, and
also, I've seen the word "grape
00:52:49.63\00:52:51.93
juice" in the NIV.
00:52:51.97\00:52:53.57
Doug: I think you'll
find, though, if you look at the
00:52:53.60\00:52:56.04
original word in both the King
James, New King James, the Old
00:52:56.07\00:52:59.94
Testament word
there is the word "wine."
00:53:00.04\00:53:03.01
The King James translators
realized that it has definitely
00:53:03.04\00:53:06.72
got to be grape juice because
it's anything from the grape at
00:53:06.75\00:53:09.88
any stage, and so
it says you're not even
00:53:09.92\00:53:11.95
supposed to eat a raisin.
00:53:11.99\00:53:13.36
The Nazirite was not supposed to
eat anything from the vine, and
00:53:13.39\00:53:16.66
so they put the word
"grape juice" in there,
00:53:16.69\00:53:19.26
but it's not in the original.
00:53:19.29\00:53:21.00
It's the same word that you're
going to find used for "wine,"
00:53:21.03\00:53:23.67
and in the New Testament,
there's only one word for wine.
00:53:23.70\00:53:25.87
I don't think you find
the word "grape juice."
00:53:25.90\00:53:27.34
It's "oinos," "oinos," I think,
if I'm pronouncing that right.
00:53:27.37\00:53:31.84
So, yeah, there's
not a distinction made
00:53:31.87\00:53:34.38
in the original languages.
00:53:34.41\00:53:35.71
Some translators--and
they did the right thing.
00:53:35.74\00:53:37.85
When they know it's grape
juice, they put grape juice.
00:53:37.88\00:53:40.62
But, I think, if you get--is
it Isaiah where it says, "As the
00:53:40.65\00:53:44.49
new wine is in the cluster"?
00:53:44.52\00:53:46.15
Valerie: Yeah, I
remember that Scripture too.
00:53:46.19\00:53:48.16
Doug: Yeah, well, clearly, if
it's still in the cluster, it's
00:53:48.19\00:53:50.43
not fermented yet so--but
it uses the same word, "wine."
00:53:50.46\00:53:55.10
So that's why Jesus, when he
said, "You don't put new wine--"
00:53:55.13\00:53:59.27
new wine is grape juice--in old
wineskins," but it still uses
00:53:59.30\00:54:02.40
the same word for both.
00:54:02.44\00:54:04.47
So, hey, you know,
I've got a book on alcohol.
00:54:04.51\00:54:06.94
We'll send you a
free copy, and it's called
00:54:06.98\00:54:09.28
"The Christian and Alcohol."
00:54:09.31\00:54:10.71
Jean: The number to call
for that is 800-835-6747.
00:54:10.75\00:54:13.88
You can ask for the book.
00:54:13.92\00:54:15.22
It's called
"Alcohol and the Christian."
00:54:15.25\00:54:17.39
We'll be happy to send it to
anyone in Canada or the U.S., or
00:54:17.42\00:54:20.09
you can just dial "#250," and
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00:54:20.12\00:54:24.09
ask for the book
"Alcohol and the Christian."
00:54:24.13\00:54:27.60
We'll be happy to send that out
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:54:27.66\00:54:30.40
You know, Pastor Doug, we might
want to mention, and we probably
00:54:30.43\00:54:32.83
don't have enough time to take
another call, but you can email
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00:54:40.44\00:54:47.68
It's
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00:54:47.72\00:54:50.62
Doug: You're doing pretty good.
00:54:50.65\00:54:51.95
Pastor Ross was in
Brazil two days ago.
00:54:51.99\00:54:53.79
Jean: I'm having a
little jet lag here, hah-hah.
00:54:53.82\00:54:56.86
Doug: But he came
in, a real trooper.
00:54:56.89\00:54:58.73
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Jean: Hello, friends, welcome
back to "Bible Answers Live."
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We're going to take a few
moments to take your email
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questions that have come in.
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Well, here we go.
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First question, Pastor
Doug, comes from Rapha,
00:55:37.03\00:55:39.67
ten years old, from Canada.
00:55:39.70\00:55:41.07
He says, "Why is the
God of Genesis so mean?
00:55:41.10\00:55:45.01
And he's not the God
that I hear about in church."
00:55:45.04\00:55:48.01
Doug: Heh-heh, well, it's the
same God, and you're going to
00:55:48.04\00:55:51.65
see that there are times when
He deals severely with sin, not
00:55:51.68\00:55:55.92
only in the Old Testament,
like Genesis, but in the New
00:55:55.95\00:55:59.25
Testament were the
seven last plagues.
00:55:59.29\00:56:02.52
God destroys the world during
the flood in the Old Testament.
00:56:02.56\00:56:05.73
He destroys the world with
a fire in the New Testament
00:56:05.76\00:56:08.60
at the Second Coming.
00:56:08.63\00:56:10.17
And God, in the Old Testament,
is a God of love and mercy.
00:56:10.20\00:56:13.44
Says He loves us with an
everlasting love, and in the New
00:56:13.47\00:56:16.67
Testament, Jesus
tells us God is love.
00:56:16.71\00:56:18.64
So it's the same God.
00:56:18.67\00:56:20.51
You've got both sides.
00:56:20.54\00:56:22.38
Jean: Okay, we've
got another question.
00:56:22.41\00:56:24.18
Manuel asks, "When somebody
dies and the breath goes back to
00:56:24.21\00:56:27.65
God, is this the breath of
everyone or just the ones that
00:56:27.68\00:56:30.95
are to be saved?"
00:56:30.99\00:56:32.92
Doug: Well, you find that
in Ecclesiastes chapter 7.
00:56:32.95\00:56:36.89
It says the person dies, that
the body goes back to the dust,
00:56:36.93\00:56:42.63
and the spirit
to God, who gave it.
00:56:42.66\00:56:45.17
And it's not just for when
people die, but it says whether
00:56:45.20\00:56:48.60
it's a man or whether it's a
beast, that breath of life, that
00:56:48.64\00:56:52.61
spirit--and the word "spirit"
there in Hebrew is "ruach."
00:56:52.64\00:56:55.61
It just means "the breath."
00:56:55.64\00:56:57.61
It returns to God.
00:56:57.65\00:56:58.88
And so every creature in which
is the breath of life, when it
00:56:58.91\00:57:02.62
dies, that breath of
life goes back to God.
00:57:02.65\00:57:06.15
It's not like a little ghost
from all the butterflies and
00:57:06.19\00:57:08.69
dogs and fish goes back to God.
00:57:08.72\00:57:10.89
It's just the breath of life.
00:57:10.93\00:57:12.23
It's not a conscious being
because it doesn't have a body
00:57:12.26\00:57:14.40
to think in anymore.
00:57:14.46\00:57:16.36
Jean: Okay, John asks, "In
Revelation chapter 1, verse 7,
00:57:16.40\00:57:18.93
it says that every
eye will see Jesus.
00:57:18.97\00:57:21.87
Is this talking about the Second
Coming, or is this the end of
00:57:21.90\00:57:24.37
the 1,000 years?"
00:57:24.41\00:57:26.04
Doug: Well, at the end of
the 1,000 years--I'm sorry.
00:57:26.07\00:57:29.68
At the Second Coming, everybody
alive on the planet will see
00:57:29.71\00:57:32.58
Jesus when He comes.
00:57:32.61\00:57:34.58
All the wicked who are
raised will also see Him come.
00:57:34.62\00:57:38.45
Some who died before the Second
Coming, they're going to see Him
00:57:38.49\00:57:40.99
come at the end of the 1,000
years, at that Resurrection,
00:57:41.02\00:57:43.29
coming in the New Jerusalem.
00:57:43.32\00:57:45.33
So everybody who has ever lived
will, at some point in their
00:57:45.36\00:57:48.13
life, with their eyes, see
the Lord come, and if they were
00:57:48.16\00:57:51.33
blind, God will give
them eyes to see Him coming.
00:57:51.37\00:57:54.67
Jean: So those who are alive
see Jesus at the Second Coming,
00:57:54.70\00:57:57.34
and then the wicked, well,
they're resurrected at the end
00:57:57.37\00:58:00.18
of the thousand years, and
they'll see the New Jerusalem as
00:58:00.21\00:58:03.21
you find
described in Revelation 20.
00:58:03.24\00:58:04.98
Doug: Yeah, Christ
is coming in glory there
00:58:05.01\00:58:06.35
with the New Jerusalem.
00:58:06.38\00:58:07.88
Hey, friends, that's
all we have time for now.
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