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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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- Hello friends.
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Would you like to
hear an amazing fact?
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An English
fisherman from Worcestershire
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traveling through France,
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caught a fish he
will not soon forget.
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20 years ago,
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someone introduced a goldfish
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to the blue water lakes
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in Champagne, France.
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Little fish tend to get big,
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and grow much
longer in a big lake,
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but no one was prepared
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when Andy Hackett
landed the monster goldfish
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that had grown to 67 pounds.
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The bright orange goldfish
had been spotted many times
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and was
nicknamed the Giant Carrot.
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After a 25 minute battle,
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it was all over.
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A friend teased Andy,
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you're gonna need
a bigger fishbowl.
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It's not very often you
see a man using two hands
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to lift a goldfish
nearly as big as a sheep.
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Mr. Hackett posed
with the orange leviathan
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for a few memorable pictures,
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before releasing
it back into the lake.
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The fishery now has a
waiting list of five years
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for anyone else
who wants a chance
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at catching the
world's biggest goldfish.
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You know, pastor Ross,
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I remember once I came
home from some school fair
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and I don't know how I
ended up weaning a goldfish
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for one of our kids.
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And we put it in a
little plastic goldfish bowl,
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and set it on
the kitchen counter.
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And I honestly
thought it would die
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in about two or three days
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and that would
be the end of that.
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We had that thing for years,
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(Pastor Rossa laughs)
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and I mean just, you know,
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we took, we fed it
and took care of it,
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but I was am once we
actually thought it was dead,
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and I put it in the toilet,
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it came back to life,
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and then I had to fish it out.
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Those things are are amazing,
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but I've never
seen one get that big.
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- That is a big goldfish.
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You can just
imagine the kid coming home
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and having one of those
in its big bowl on his desk.
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It's just.
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- Let those go in
the swimming pool.
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- That's right. It's a big fish.
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- But then, yeah,
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if you put that in your pool,
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you'd be afraid
it might catch you.
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And it makes us
think about a man
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that instead of going fishing,
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he got caught by the fish.
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- That's right.
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Also a really big fish,
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and we're talking about Jonah,
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and the story that we
find in the Old Testament
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of the prophet,
the reluctant prophet,
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but God prepared a fish
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and the fish
actually brought Jonah
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underwater to
where he needed to go.
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But what else is
interesting, pastor Doug,
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is that story of Jonah,
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being in the
belly of the great fish
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for three days is
actually referenced by Jesus.
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- Yeah, some people say,
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well, it didn't really happen.
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Well, Jesus states it
as though it did happen.
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And you can read that Friends,
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if you look in your Bibles
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in the book of
Matthew chapter 12,
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and in verse 39, Jesus said,
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"An evil and adulterous
generation seeks after a sign,
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and no sign will be given to it
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except for the sign
of the prophet Jonah.
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For as Jonah was
three days and three nights
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in the belly of the great fish.
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So will the son of man be
three days and three nights
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in the heart of the earth."
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And you know,
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there are many ways when
you read the story of Jonah,
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it is really a,
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it's a type of Jesus.
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We learn about Jesus.
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Sort of allegorically
from the story of Jonah.
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Jesus was asleep in
a boat during a storm.
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They said to Jesus, Lord,
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do you not care we're perishing?
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And they woke him up.
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The captain says to Jonah,
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do you not care
that we're perishing?
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Then they go up on
deck and they cast lots
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and they cast lots for Jesus
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and says the sailors
did not want to be charged
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with innocent blood.
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And Pilate said,
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"I don't want to be guilty
of this man's innocent blood."
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And you can go through
the story of Jonah of course,
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and then Jonah,
looks like he's dead.
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And after three days and
three nights he comes back.
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And then there's a great
revival after his resurrection,
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which after Jesus' resurrection,
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the Christian Church
goes to the Gentiles.
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So there's just so many
parallels in the story of Jonah
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and maybe our
friends would like to know
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what some of those lessons are.
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I didn't even give
half of them right now.
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- We have a book and the book
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written by Pastor Doug.
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And it's just a great read.
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we wanna start
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Dear Father in heaven,
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- While we're ready
to go to the phone lines,
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our first caller this evening,
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we've got David
listening in Arizona.
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David, welcome to the program.
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- [David] Hello, good evening,
pastor Basher, pastor Ross.
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- Evening.
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- Praise the Lord
for using you both
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and the ministry Amazing Facts.
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Bless all you and your families.
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- Well, thank you.
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- [David] I work here
as a volunteer missionary
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on the Navajo
Reservation and you know,
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there's a lot of people in need
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and Lord's using me quite a bit,
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helping people.
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And one day it impressed me,
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I asked the Lord, I said, Lord,
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I says,
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"You've used me to do this,
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and I know that you provide
blessings for helping people.
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So if there is any
blessings that you have for me,
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would you please
give it to this person?"
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Or you know,
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who I was helping at the time.
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And since then I've
done that several times
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and I was just curious what
your thoughts were about that.
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- Yeah, well of course,
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people cannot of their
own transfer a blessing
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except as God does
that now, you know,
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when the Lord
instructed Isaac and Jacob,
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they placed their
hands on their sons
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and they kind of conveyed
a promise and a blessing.
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Jesus put his hands on
the children and bless them.
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But the most important
way that we transfer blessing
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is simply by praying
that God will bless somebody.
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And which sounds
like what you're doing,
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it's, but this,
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it's not really a ritual.
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We just ask God to, you know,
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bless this person,
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and it's okay to ask
God to bless you too.
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There's a story
of Jabez in the Bible
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and he says,
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"Lord bless me."
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And it says,
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God blessed him and
answered his prayer.
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So just praying that
God will bless the people
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that are working in your wake,
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and I'll send you
Navajo greetings (indistinct)
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to you and any of your friends
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that are there around
the four corners area.
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Keep up the good work
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and thank you
for your call. David.
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- We've got Anthony
listening in New York.
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Anthony, welcome to the program.
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- [Anthony] Hello,
good evening, pastors.
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- Evening.
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- [Anthony] My question is
based on Daniel chapter four,
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verse 15,
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And it says, "Nevertheless."
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And this is the
dream of Nebuchadnezzar
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where he jumped up the big tree
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and it says, "Nevertheless,
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leave the stump of
his roots in the earth,
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even with a band
of iron and brass
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in the tender grass of the field
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and let it be wet
with the dew of heaven
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and let his
portion be with the beasts
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and the grass of the earth."
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My question is,
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is there any
prophetic significance
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to the types of
metals mentioned there?
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Mentioned in there
with the iron and the brass,
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similar to the one of his
first string with the metal man.
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- Right, yeah.
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And I think that you also
find the iron in the brass
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in Daniel, is it Daniel Seven?
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The fourth beast that got teeth
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of iron and claws of brass.
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So, you know,
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every word of God is
valid and means something.
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And I've looked at this before,
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because typically,
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when you look at the
story in Daniel chapter four,
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it's not a problem.
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Well, this
Daniel gives a prophecy
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of what's gonna
happen to Nebuchadnezzar,
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but we usually don't apply
that with the day for the year,
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because it tells us the
fulfillment of that prophecy
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when the seven times
pass is the seven years
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of Nebuchadnezzar's insanity,
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and that his
kingdom would be preserved.
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Now I've done a lot of
woodcutting and falling of
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trees. I was
doing some last week
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and some trees,
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when you cut it,
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if you cut it
above the ball root,
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they will come back.
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A man's in need and many
other trees or on a drone.
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They'll come back even an oak,
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they might put a band
of iron or bronze around it
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to protect that,
the tree, the stump,
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from being, you know,
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beaten up by people
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or something that might go by.
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And I think that maybe that's
put there for that reason.
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I've had some people say,
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"Well if the
iron represents Rome,
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and the bronze
represents Greece,
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and that maybe this
prophecy as a dual application
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and the seven times
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we're talking
about the people of God,
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and that they would
be preserved as a nation
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and Israel would come back."
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I've heard people
apply it that way.
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But I think we need to stick
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with the regular interpretation
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that's given by Daniel,
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that Nebuchadnezzar
was the fulfillment.
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- All right, very good.
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Thank you for
your call. Anthony.
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We've got Terrence
listening in North Carolina.
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Terrence,
welcome to the program.
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- [Terrence] Hey
pastors, how are you tonight?
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- Good.
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- Yeah.
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- [Terrence] Good. I
got a quick question here.
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Did Enoch and
Elijah go boldly to heaven
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or were they taken up
and buried like Moses was
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in reference to John 3:13?
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- Yeah. Well,
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I don't believe
that flesh and blood
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can inherit the kingdom of God,
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meaning these
Colonel corruptible bodies,
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where is it in 1 Corinthians 15,
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I think Pastor Ross
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where Paul says
this corruption will put
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on incorruption in the moment,
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in the twinkle an
eye we are transformed.
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That doesn't mean that
one body has to get buried
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and then God
creates another one.
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I think that with Enoch,
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when he walked with God and
he went through that portal,
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that cosmic portal where he went
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from our world into heaven,
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I think think
God transformed him
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and gave him a glorified body.
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And the same thing with Elijah,
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when he went to
heaven in the fiery chariot,
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I think he
experienced a transformation
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and got a glorified body.
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His body is not the
regular one we are in now,
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that gets sick and old
and has aches and pains.
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- You also mentioned Terrace,
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John chapter three, verse 13,
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and maybe this is part of
the question, pastor Doug,
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Jesus said, "No one
has ascended up to heaven,
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but he has come down from
heaven that is the son of man."
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So are you wondering, Terrence,
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how could they ascend to heaven
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if Jesus says no one
has ascended to heaven?
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- [Terrence] Also in
reference to 2 Kings 2,
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one through 11,
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it says Elijah was
taken up into heaven
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by a whirlwind afterwards,
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Philippines men searched for
three days but cannot find them
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for the word heaven often refers
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to the, you know, the sky
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and whirlwinds can't
take anyone into God's heaven.
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So that's my question.
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Were they taken into heaven?
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I mean. - Yes.
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- [Terrence] Or
were they buried, yes?
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- Yeah. Well, because,
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it's says Enoch walk with God
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and it was not for
God took him, well,
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God took him to himself.
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And one reason we
know Elijah went to heaven
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is if you go to
the New Testament,
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Mark chapter nine,
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Elijah, along with Moses,
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appear in real glorified bodies,
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talking with Jesus.
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And Peter, James
and John saw that.
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So no reason to doubt
that Enoch's not there too.
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- Just a comment
real quick on the verse
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you mentioned in
John chapter 3:13,
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people wonder
what did Jesus mean
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when he said no one
has ascended up heaven,
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but He has come down.
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The context that
Jesus talking about,
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no one has ascended
up heaven to have truth,
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to find truth,
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and then come
back down to the earth
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from heaven with truth
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to share it other than Christ.
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So the statement is not saying
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no one has ever
ascended to heaven.
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'Cause of course
Enoch and Elijah dead
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and Moses was
resurrected taken to heaven,
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but no one has gone
from earth to heaven
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and then come back down
to the earth to share truth.
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Jesus, the one that
has come down from heaven.
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So that's the context
there in John chapter three.
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- Yep.
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Next call that we have is Lori,
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listening from Illinois.
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Lori, welcome to the program.
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- [Lori] Thank you
for taking my call.
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I really, really appreciate it.
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I'm having a hard
time wrapping my head
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around Matthew 18:18.
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I've looked at the commentary
and everything and I spoke,
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I'm having a hard
time understanding that,
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and I was wondering if
you could explain that to me.
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- All right, let's
read it to our friends.
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"Assuredly I say to you,
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whatever you bind on
earth will be bound in heaven
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and whatever you lose on
earth will be loose in heaven."
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And I think for one thing,
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Jesus is affirming that He
was giving the church authority
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for church discipline.
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And He's, you know,
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saying a lot of
Matthew 18 is talking about
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when there's
conflict in the church
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and how to resolve
conflict in the church.
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And some people might
have behavior that means
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that they would be put out
of the fellowship of the church.
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Paul addressed that same thing
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in 1 Corinthians I
think in chapter seven.
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He was talking about
somebody that was sleeping
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with his father's wife,
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ostensibly his stepmother,
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and he said,
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you should put such a one out.
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I think that the
Lord was saying that
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He would support
and respect that,
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but even beyond that,
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it's saying that
when we preach the gospel,
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our failure to do it,
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it makes a difference in heaven.
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Sharing the gospel with others
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and they find Christ
what's happening on earth
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affects the results in heaven.
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- All right, thank
you for your call Lori,
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we've got Janet
listening in Nevada.
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Janet, welcome to the program.
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- [Janet] Hello,
Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross.
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It's really a wonderful
blessing to talk with you guys.
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I've been waiting
for this phone call.
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Thank you so much
for taking my phone call.
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My question is this,
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in the context of
John chapter 10:10,
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we see Satan here as the
architect of death, right?
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Jesus told Satan,
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"You Satan, the
thief came to steal."
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And I'm gonna emphasize
a radical truth here about
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killing. I'd rather
change it to murder, right?
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- Okay.
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- [Janet] 'Cause right
from the mouth of Jesus,
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He told in Judges 8:44,
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he told the pharisees,
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you're like your,
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your father the devil,
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who in the
beginning was a murderer.
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So Satan is a murderer.
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So in my evangelism I
used murder instead of killed.
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Satan is up to
killing for no reason.
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So the I see here Satan
as the architect of death.
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Now my question is
the, you know, the,
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the dead loved ones,
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that usually visit the
beloved family of the dead.
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I would like to
confirm this with you.
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It could be your up to
Jesus or your eye to Jesus.
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I would say it that
way in that context,
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I'd like you to affirm
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if this is the
demonic spirit sent by Satan
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to murder somebody
in a stage four cancer,
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like say died of
stage four cancer.
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Because as we see too,
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I heard about this
cancer being healed
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in the power of prayer.
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So. - Yeah.
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- [Janet] I would say that,
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correct me if I'm wrong,
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if this is right or wrong,
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you can say you are
critical biblical interpretation
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or your eye to Jesus.
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I will appreciate your
answer to this question.
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Thank you.
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- Okay, Janet.
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Yes.
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And first let me read for
our friends that are listening,
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you quoted John chapter 10:10,
00:17:47.13\00:17:50.07
"The thief does not
come except to steal,
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to kill and to destroy.
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I've come that
they might have life
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and that they might
have it more abundantly."
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Now, certainly,
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Jesus heals,
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and you can
read about that woman
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in the gospel that says,
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she was bent over for 18 years.
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I'm trying to
remember the passage.
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And Jesus said, you know,
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it's if you would
lead your Ox or donkey
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to water on the Sabbath,
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then what's wrong
with releasing this woman
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from her bondage?
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She was doubled
over physically in pain
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and whom Satan has bound.
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And so Jesus does confirm,
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at least in this case,
00:18:29.34\00:18:30.44
that Satan does
bring sickness and death.
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You know, God's plan
is an abundance of life.
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Jesus came to heal people,
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He was often healing.
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Now that doesn't mean
that everybody with cancer,
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any kind of disease is healed.
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Christ can go beyond even
healing stage four cancer.
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He can raise the dead.
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And I do know people
with stage four cancer
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that have been healed.
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So he certainly can do that.
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He doesn't in every case.
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We know that in
the resurrection,
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all believers are healed,
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so they will be healed.
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But yeah,
00:19:01.14\00:19:02.50
the devil was the one who
00:19:02.50\00:19:03.64
ultimately brought sin and death
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and disease into our world.
00:19:05.84\00:19:07.71
- The verse you're
referring to pastor Doug
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is Luke chapter 13:16.
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- The woman who
has doubled over.
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- Yeah, the Satan is
bounder these 18 years.
00:19:12.68\00:19:15.55
- Yeah.
00:19:15.55\00:19:16.35
- So that's the reference there.
00:19:16.35\00:19:17.22
- So yes,
00:19:17.22\00:19:18.25
the devil does
because that's sickness.
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- Next call that we
have is Frank listening
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from the Netherlands.
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Frank, welcome to the program.
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- [Frank] Hello.
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- Hi.
00:19:27.23\00:19:28.10
- [Frank] So I have a question,
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from Leviticus I think.
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It's about the unclean laws,
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when a woman has
loss of blood loss
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or when a man does a sin,
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they are unclean for a
certain amount of time.
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What is the
spiritual meaning today?
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- Yeah, how would you
apply some of these laws?
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Well, you would
divide up the laws
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in the Old Testament in
a few different categories.
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Some of them of course
are you're just moral law.
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That's the 10 Commandments.
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God treats it differently
00:20:04.23\00:20:05.57
'cause he delivered it
and wrote it differently.
00:20:05.57\00:20:08.57
And the Bible calls that
the covenant that God made,
00:20:08.57\00:20:12.04
then you had certain civil laws,
00:20:12.04\00:20:14.74
and Moses was given
a number of civil laws
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about how people
were to be governed
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and judged and what
the various punishments
00:20:18.81\00:20:21.15
would be for various crimes.
00:20:21.15\00:20:23.32
Then there were
some ceremonial laws
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and that had to
do with the sanctuary
00:20:25.65\00:20:27.22
and its services and
the sacrificial system.
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Even circumcision is
part of the ceremonial law.
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And then you
had some health laws
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and so depending on
which one you're citing,
00:20:36.40\00:20:39.80
the Bible says that
the nation of Israel,
00:20:41.00\00:20:44.21
they believe that and you
know it's actually very modern,
00:20:44.21\00:20:48.01
very good modern science.
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They thought any
unnatural issue from the body,
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could make a person unclean.
00:20:54.38\00:20:56.62
And so they
were to be set aside,
00:20:56.62\00:20:59.89
whether they had a
sore running or whatever,
00:20:59.89\00:21:03.32
it might be emission from
the body was considered unclean.
00:21:03.32\00:21:07.23
And so they would
wash and they'd be unclean
00:21:07.23\00:21:10.40
for a designated period of time.
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Now, it was a little different
00:21:12.83\00:21:14.80
for a woman
during the monthly cycle
00:21:14.80\00:21:17.47
and that's actually true
00:21:17.47\00:21:18.84
in many cultures of the world.
00:21:18.84\00:21:20.74
Yeah, blood is
considered unclean
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and they were to, you know,
00:21:26.11\00:21:26.92
wash if they were exposed to it.
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So that would be probably on the
00:21:29.72\00:21:32.55
kind of a combination of a
health and a ceremonial law.
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'cause some of it had to
do with natural cleanliness
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and then some of it had to
do with blood and the sanctuary.
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I thought, you know,
00:21:43.13\00:21:43.97
one reason I say that is
00:21:43.97\00:21:45.57
the time that a
woman would stay away
00:21:45.57\00:21:47.44
from the sanctuary
when she had a man child
00:21:47.44\00:21:49.80
was about half of that
00:21:49.80\00:21:51.27
for when she had a woman baby,
00:21:51.27\00:21:52.84
a female baby.
00:21:52.84\00:21:54.31
So obviously, there's some
spiritual significance to that,
00:21:54.31\00:21:56.78
that health wise there
would be no difference.
00:21:56.78\00:21:59.38
- All right, very good.
00:22:00.28\00:22:00.95
Well, thank you Frank.
00:22:00.95\00:22:02.08
We've got, let's see,
00:22:02.08\00:22:03.62
Maggie
listening from Washington.
00:22:03.62\00:22:05.15
Maggie, welcome to the program.
00:22:05.15\00:22:07.19
- [Maggie] Oh, thank
you for taking my call.
00:22:07.19\00:22:08.69
I appreciate it.
00:22:08.69\00:22:09.69
I wanna let you gentlemen know
00:22:09.69\00:22:11.36
that I pray for you daily
00:22:11.36\00:22:12.93
that the Lord would
put a hedge about you.
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And. - Oh, thank you.
00:22:15.03\00:22:15.83
- [Maggie] My question is,
00:22:15.83\00:22:17.30
could you explain Hanukkah,
00:22:17.30\00:22:18.83
where it came from,
what the history is?
00:22:18.83\00:22:21.40
Is it a biblical practice
00:22:21.40\00:22:22.87
or just where does it come from?
00:22:22.87\00:22:24.27
And thank you so
much for your answer.
00:22:24.27\00:22:26.68
- Yeah, well, in the
typical Protestant Bible,
00:22:26.68\00:22:30.51
you're not gonna find
the history of Hanukkah.
00:22:30.51\00:22:32.58
You would find it in
the story of the Maccabees.
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That's a period of time between,
00:22:35.42\00:22:37.72
it's called the inter
testament period of time
00:22:37.72\00:22:39.75
between Malachi and Matthew.
00:22:39.75\00:22:43.12
During the time
of the Maccabees,
00:22:44.33\00:22:45.93
they ran out of
oil in the temple
00:22:45.93\00:22:48.06
and God miraculously
00:22:48.06\00:22:49.36
kept the lamp
burning for seven days.
00:22:49.36\00:22:51.90
And that's why you'll often see
00:22:51.90\00:22:53.13
Hanukkah is
symbolized by a Menorah,
00:22:53.13\00:22:55.44
the Jewish seven
pointed candlestick,
00:22:55.44\00:22:58.21
and they light the candles,
00:22:58.21\00:22:59.84
and it's based on this miracle.
00:22:59.84\00:23:02.04
And I don't have any
reason to doubt the miracle,
00:23:02.04\00:23:05.05
but there's no command in the
typical Bible about Hanukkah.
00:23:05.05\00:23:08.48
You will have a
reference in the Bible
00:23:08.48\00:23:10.12
to the Feast of Purum,
00:23:10.12\00:23:11.65
which is in the book of Esther.
00:23:11.65\00:23:13.82
And of course Passover,
00:23:13.82\00:23:16.26
and the others
are going to be there.
00:23:16.26\00:23:18.19
- All right,
thank you for your call.
00:23:19.33\00:23:20.03
- Thank you Meg.
00:23:20.03\00:23:21.06
- We've got Lee
listening in Texas.
00:23:21.06\00:23:22.43
Lee, welcome to the program.
00:23:22.43\00:23:23.90
- [Lee] Yes sir.
Thank you Pastors.
00:23:25.00\00:23:26.63
I apologize for
calling so many times.
00:23:26.63\00:23:28.77
- I don't, we
haven't made a note of it,
00:23:29.84\00:23:31.04
so don't worry.
00:23:31.04\00:23:32.51
- [Lee] Okay. My
question is that,
00:23:32.51\00:23:35.78
is the death decree
the end of probation?
00:23:35.78\00:23:38.48
Or is the mark of the
beast the end of probation?
00:23:38.48\00:23:41.62
I've been
trying to find out that
00:23:41.62\00:23:43.35
for quite a number of time.
00:23:43.35\00:23:45.99
- All right, well let's
see if we can help you now.
00:23:45.99\00:23:48.22
First of all, for our
friends that are listening,
00:23:48.22\00:23:50.69
Lee is talking
about in Revelation 13,
00:23:50.69\00:23:53.09
in the final
conflict with the beast power.
00:23:53.09\00:23:55.80
It comes in two phases.
00:23:55.80\00:23:57.87
Phase one, is the
beast Power is going to try
00:23:57.87\00:24:01.04
to manipulate the world
to a certain form of worship.
00:24:01.04\00:24:05.71
And obviously
it'll happen in degrees.
00:24:05.71\00:24:08.14
First they'll say,
00:24:08.14\00:24:08.98
well, you know,
00:24:08.98\00:24:10.05
we're gonna control
your buying and selling
00:24:10.05\00:24:11.31
and unless you cooperate,
00:24:11.31\00:24:12.51
you cannot buy or sell.
00:24:12.51\00:24:14.32
And when that's finally
not effective for God's people,
00:24:14.32\00:24:17.32
they're gonna say, all right,
00:24:17.32\00:24:18.12
we're going to the phase two,
00:24:18.12\00:24:19.45
which is there'll be a
death decree in a certain date
00:24:19.45\00:24:22.52
and you'll be killed.
00:24:22.52\00:24:23.79
You see in the book of Daniel,
00:24:24.96\00:24:26.59
there was a death decree,
00:24:26.59\00:24:28.00
if they did not
worship the image
00:24:28.00\00:24:29.56
of Nebuchadnezzar.
00:24:29.56\00:24:31.37
So it's interesting Pastor Ross
00:24:31.37\00:24:33.70
that even now in the world,
00:24:33.70\00:24:35.90
when the United
Nations get together,
00:24:35.90\00:24:38.01
and certain countries
that are behaving badly,
00:24:38.01\00:24:40.68
they have
international monetary sanctions
00:24:40.68\00:24:43.71
that control the
buying and selling.
00:24:43.71\00:24:46.21
So on an international level,
00:24:46.21\00:24:47.98
that's already happening.
00:24:47.98\00:24:49.45
But as far as I know,
00:24:49.45\00:24:51.25
United Nations is
not compelling people
00:24:51.25\00:24:53.02
to worship certain way yet.
00:24:53.02\00:24:54.96
I mean it could happen,
00:24:54.96\00:24:56.66
but,
00:24:56.66\00:24:57.99
so I don't
think probation closes
00:24:57.99\00:25:00.10
until you get to
the death decree phase,
00:25:00.10\00:25:03.57
because during that first phase,
00:25:03.57\00:25:04.97
when you can't buy or sell,
00:25:04.97\00:25:06.30
I think the Christians are gonna
be preaching and practicing
00:25:06.30\00:25:08.74
and there'll be
many people converted
00:25:08.74\00:25:12.04
maybe during that time,
00:25:12.04\00:25:14.04
but certainly by the time
they issue a death decree,
00:25:14.04\00:25:16.68
I think
probation will have closed
00:25:16.68\00:25:18.51
and the seven last
plagues begin to fall.
00:25:18.51\00:25:20.82
By the way,
00:25:20.82\00:25:21.92
when the seven last
plagues begin to fall,
00:25:21.92\00:25:23.62
if you look out your window,
00:25:23.62\00:25:24.75
you live by the ocean,
00:25:24.75\00:25:25.65
it's turned to blood,
00:25:25.65\00:25:26.69
probation's closed,
00:25:26.69\00:25:27.76
or if you live by a
river and it's turned to blood,
00:25:29.16\00:25:31.39
probation's closed.
00:25:31.39\00:25:33.19
So any other thoughts on that?
00:25:33.19\00:25:35.80
- Yeah, just to to add to that,
00:25:35.80\00:25:37.10
so you know,
00:25:37.10\00:25:37.90
we have different phases.
00:25:37.90\00:25:38.57
In Revelation 13,
00:25:38.57\00:25:39.87
as you mentioned,
00:25:39.87\00:25:41.27
the first is those who refuse
to acknowledge the beast power
00:25:41.27\00:25:43.04
or worship the bees power,
00:25:43.04\00:25:44.64
they can't buy on sale.
00:25:44.64\00:25:45.87
And then at some point in time,
00:25:45.87\00:25:47.38
there is the close of probation,
00:25:47.38\00:25:49.31
you got the seven last plagues.
00:25:49.31\00:25:50.98
And it seems as though
the death decree comes about,
00:25:50.98\00:25:53.11
because at that point in time
00:25:53.11\00:25:55.22
you have a false
prophets arising,
00:25:55.22\00:25:58.25
and false Christ,
00:25:58.25\00:25:59.32
and they're doing miracles,
00:25:59.32\00:26:00.36
and they're
galvanizing the world
00:26:00.36\00:26:02.12
and they're pointing to
this group of people are refuse
00:26:02.12\00:26:04.43
to come along with
the rest of the world
00:26:04.43\00:26:06.53
in this
particular form of worship.
00:26:06.53\00:26:08.23
And the reason all these
bad things are happening,
00:26:08.23\00:26:10.13
they're gonna point to
this group of people and say,
00:26:10.13\00:26:11.53
well that's the reason.
00:26:11.53\00:26:12.63
And that's really
gonna help motivate
00:26:12.63\00:26:14.27
this universal death decree.
00:26:14.27\00:26:15.50
The good news is,
00:26:15.50\00:26:16.84
that before this death
decree can be carried out,
00:26:16.84\00:26:18.94
Jesus comes,
00:26:18.94\00:26:19.94
He comes to delivery His people,
00:26:19.94\00:26:21.61
so that death
decrees never enact.
00:26:21.61\00:26:23.35
And of course we have
parallels in the Bible.
00:26:23.35\00:26:25.21
We have the story of Esther,
00:26:25.21\00:26:26.61
when there was a death
decree against the Jews,
00:26:26.61\00:26:29.58
but that death decree
was never carried out.
00:26:29.58\00:26:31.35
So we do see some
parallels in history as well.
00:26:31.35\00:26:34.32
- Yep. The Lord
will deliver His people,
00:26:34.32\00:26:36.22
just like He did to
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego
00:26:36.22\00:26:39.86
in the fiery furnace.
00:26:39.86\00:26:41.33
And Daniel from the lions den,
00:26:41.33\00:26:43.47
I think that,
00:26:44.33\00:26:45.13
and Joseph from his trials,
00:26:45.13\00:26:46.50
and Job from his trials,
00:26:46.50\00:26:47.87
God is gonna save us through
that time of tribulation.
00:26:47.87\00:26:51.64
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- [Sean] Hey
guys, can you hear me?
00:30:42.20\00:30:43.71
- Loud and clear.
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- [Sean] All right, cool.
00:30:45.61\00:30:47.51
Okay, so about a
couple years ago,
00:30:47.51\00:30:49.91
oh, I wanted to thank
you guys for doing this.
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It's so cool. - Oh, we enjoy it.
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- [Sean] Especially with
today's technology and stuff.
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It's the best idea.
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- Thank you.
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- [Sean] Okay,
00:31:00.12\00:31:00.92
so years ago I was mowing lawns
00:31:00.92\00:31:03.06
and a really nice
customer of ours gave me,
00:31:03.06\00:31:07.30
I think it was
way before I woke up
00:31:07.30\00:31:09.16
to the truth and everything.
00:31:09.16\00:31:12.37
Sorry I get a little nervous.
00:31:13.57\00:31:15.57
- That's all right. -
[Sean] It always happens.
00:31:15.57\00:31:16.60
I was so calm
before I got on here.
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But then your heart rate starts
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to pound and you get on.
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I'm so sorry.
00:31:21.18\00:31:22.31
- Oh, don't worry.
00:31:22.31\00:31:23.41
- [Sean] Anyways,
okay, so the customer lady,
00:31:23.41\00:31:27.28
she was so nice and she helped,
00:31:27.28\00:31:29.88
I helped her with
a moving some stuff
00:31:33.19\00:31:35.42
and as a gift she gave me
this huge wood carved elephant,
00:31:35.42\00:31:40.13
like three foot tall,
00:31:40.13\00:31:41.93
beautiful thing.
00:31:41.93\00:31:43.16
She said it was like
original from Thailand,
00:31:43.16\00:31:45.90
like it was over 70
years old or something.
00:31:45.90\00:31:48.04
- Wow.
00:31:48.04\00:31:49.27
- [Sean] And yeah,
00:31:49.27\00:31:50.54
and it's beautiful and
it's been sitting around
00:31:50.54\00:31:54.01
and we had a move
about four or five months ago
00:31:54.01\00:31:58.98
and I remember moving it
00:31:59.75\00:32:00.88
and like on the
move I was like, wow,
00:32:00.88\00:32:03.28
there's a lot of
like carved animals
00:32:03.28\00:32:05.92
and carved, you know,
00:32:05.92\00:32:07.96
stone stuff that
looks like animals and that,
00:32:07.96\00:32:11.76
and you know, you can hear,
00:32:11.76\00:32:14.00
you can kind of hear
the spirit and kind of,
00:32:14.00\00:32:17.30
you know, the back of
your head being like this,
00:32:17.30\00:32:18.80
this isn't cool, you know,
00:32:18.80\00:32:21.34
or something like that.
00:32:21.34\00:32:22.37
And. - Sorry, are you wondering
00:32:22.37\00:32:24.64
if it's a conflict biblically
00:32:24.64\00:32:27.24
for a Christian to own
something carved like that?
00:32:27.24\00:32:30.65
- [Sean] Yeah,
00:32:30.65\00:32:31.71
and I was, I just
kind of like, and it,
00:32:31.71\00:32:33.95
the thing is like I
don't wanna give it to a friend
00:32:33.95\00:32:37.12
'cause I don't wanna
just, do I burn it up,
00:32:37.12\00:32:38.89
what do I do with it, you know?
00:32:38.89\00:32:40.42
- Yeah. All right,
well let me, first of all,
00:32:40.42\00:32:42.42
if the Holy Spirit
is telling me something,
00:32:42.42\00:32:44.19
I don't want to, you
know, advise you against that.
00:32:44.19\00:32:47.40
But in the word,
00:32:47.40\00:32:49.83
having something that is carved
00:32:49.83\00:32:51.70
is not necessarily a sin
00:32:51.70\00:32:54.17
because the Lord told the,
00:32:54.17\00:32:56.07
even when they were right
00:32:56.07\00:32:57.44
after God gave
the 10 Commandments,
00:32:57.44\00:32:58.87
they were told to
build the sanctuary
00:32:58.87\00:33:00.28
and God had them carve angels
00:33:00.28\00:33:02.54
and put them on top of the ark
00:33:02.54\00:33:04.05
and they
overlaid them with gold.
00:33:04.05\00:33:05.18
Now they weren't
to worship the angels,
00:33:05.18\00:33:06.72
they were to worship God.
00:33:06.72\00:33:08.18
And then when
Solomon built this temple,
00:33:08.18\00:33:10.52
they made 12 oxen
00:33:10.52\00:33:13.79
that were just an
artistic function,
00:33:13.79\00:33:16.56
but they held up this
giant labor and you know,
00:33:16.56\00:33:20.76
they had bells and
pomegranates and angels
00:33:20.76\00:33:23.20
and different
things that were carved
00:33:23.20\00:33:24.33
that were in the temple.
00:33:24.33\00:33:25.70
God told Moses to make a go,
00:33:25.70\00:33:27.87
make a bronze serpent once
00:33:27.87\00:33:30.47
and that people would
look at the serpent on a pole.
00:33:30.47\00:33:33.01
And he did.
00:33:33.01\00:33:33.98
But by the time Hezekiah,
00:33:35.54\00:33:37.08
the people had
idolized the serpent
00:33:37.08\00:33:38.68
and they were
praying to it and his like,
00:33:38.68\00:33:39.88
I crushed it to powder
00:33:39.88\00:33:41.38
and I think he said
00:33:42.22\00:33:43.65
(Pastor Doug
speaking in foreign language),
00:33:43.65\00:33:44.45
which means a thing of brass.
00:33:44.45\00:33:45.79
It was this piece of brass
and people were praying to it.
00:33:45.79\00:33:48.62
So if you've got, you know,
00:33:48.62\00:33:52.23
a flamingo on your lawn,
00:33:52.23\00:33:54.30
it doesn't mean
you're praying to flamingos.
00:33:54.30\00:33:56.13
It may just be
something artistic.
00:33:56.13\00:33:58.70
If you've got,
00:33:58.70\00:33:59.50
I can't speak for Pastor Ross,
00:34:00.37\00:34:01.74
but you know, when we've
been to Israel and Indian,
00:34:01.74\00:34:03.51
some of the different places
people have given me like,
00:34:03.51\00:34:05.51
you know,
soapstone carvings of camels
00:34:05.51\00:34:08.08
or olive wood of
camels and stuff,
00:34:08.08\00:34:10.25
we've got them around
our window or whatever.
00:34:10.25\00:34:13.18
I've never felt convicted.
00:34:13.18\00:34:14.32
It's a form of idolatry,
00:34:14.32\00:34:16.35
it's just a piece of artwork.
00:34:16.35\00:34:17.92
If I was ever attempted to
burn a candle in front of it
00:34:17.92\00:34:20.22
and say a prayer, well
then that's worship, you know?
00:34:20.22\00:34:22.86
So if you've got a
photograph in your wallet,
00:34:22.86\00:34:25.29
it would be a representation.
00:34:25.29\00:34:27.03
Technically it's an image,
00:34:27.03\00:34:28.06
an image is a likeness.
00:34:28.06\00:34:29.50
You couldn't have photographs
of your kids or anything.
00:34:30.83\00:34:33.80
But God doesn't
say the commandment
00:34:33.80\00:34:35.84
means you cannot own a
likeness or representation.
00:34:35.84\00:34:39.64
He said don't make these
things and bow down to them.
00:34:39.64\00:34:43.58
Now, because some
people are tempted
00:34:44.71\00:34:46.25
to pray to Mary and Jesus.
00:34:46.25\00:34:48.58
I think you
gotta be very careful
00:34:48.58\00:34:49.82
about having a
statue of Jesus or Mary
00:34:49.82\00:34:51.65
or these things around
00:34:51.65\00:34:52.72
'cause you don't
want tempt other people
00:34:52.72\00:34:54.22
to pray to those things.
00:34:54.22\00:34:56.79
- Absolutely.
00:34:56.79\00:34:58.03
All right, well
hopefully that helps Sean.
00:34:58.03\00:35:00.13
Next call the behalf
is Ricardo in California.
00:35:00.13\00:35:02.86
Ricardo, welcome to the program.
00:35:02.86\00:35:04.37
- [Ricardo]
Yeah, hi, how are you.
00:35:04.37\00:35:06.03
- Doing Great.
00:35:06.03\00:35:07.30
How can we help you?
00:35:07.30\00:35:08.87
- Yeah, okay.
00:35:08.87\00:35:09.90
So I have a
question Nehemiah 9:14,
00:35:09.90\00:35:13.21
and it has to do
with the Sabbath,
00:35:13.21\00:35:16.08
because I do speak
with some people group,
00:35:16.08\00:35:19.41
I'm not gonna
mention it just in group,
00:35:19.41\00:35:21.62
but they say that the
Sabbath started in Genesis,
00:35:21.62\00:35:24.79
but I haven't seen any
commandments in Genesis.
00:35:24.79\00:35:29.66
- So are you wondering
00:35:29.66\00:35:30.73
if the Sabbath
predates the 10 Commandments?
00:35:30.73\00:35:35.06
Did Israel have the Sabbath
before the 10 Commandments?
00:35:35.06\00:35:38.30
- [Ricardo] Yeah,
so my question is,
00:35:38.30\00:35:40.04
okay, when you
look at the the Sabbath,
00:35:40.04\00:35:43.34
it seems to appear at the,
00:35:43.34\00:35:46.11
with Moses at Mount Sinai
00:35:46.11\00:35:48.38
from that point on.
00:35:49.14\00:35:50.31
But there's no record,
00:35:50.31\00:35:51.38
I don't see anything in Genesis.
00:35:51.38\00:35:53.52
- Okay, well let's look at that.
00:35:53.52\00:35:55.62
First of all, when you
look in Genesis chapter two,
00:35:55.62\00:35:59.05
after God makes
the world in six days
00:35:59.05\00:36:01.29
and he rests the seventh day,
00:36:01.29\00:36:03.22
you could read in
chapter two of Genesis
00:36:03.22\00:36:05.53
that thus the heavens
and the earth were finished
00:36:05.53\00:36:07.13
and all the hosts of them.
00:36:07.13\00:36:08.56
And God rested the seventh day
00:36:08.56\00:36:10.27
from all the works that
he had created and made.
00:36:10.27\00:36:12.17
And God blessed the Sabbath day
00:36:12.17\00:36:14.20
and three times it mentions
the seventh day, God rest.
00:36:14.20\00:36:18.11
He blessed it,
00:36:18.11\00:36:19.21
He set it aside,
He sanctifies it.
00:36:19.21\00:36:21.18
And then Jesus.
00:36:21.18\00:36:21.98
Now in the New Testament He says
00:36:21.98\00:36:23.41
the Sabbath was made for man.
00:36:23.41\00:36:26.01
And the word that Jesus
used is the word Anthropos
00:36:26.01\00:36:28.58
and it means humanity, mankind.
00:36:28.58\00:36:30.82
It's where we get
the word en anthropology.
00:36:30.82\00:36:35.02
Yeah,
00:36:35.02\00:36:35.82
it's study of, of mankind.
00:36:35.82\00:36:37.36
So clearly,
00:36:37.36\00:36:39.73
when God made the
Sabbath and he rested,
00:36:39.73\00:36:41.56
and man is made in God's image,
00:36:41.56\00:36:44.30
man was resting back
in the garden of Eden.
00:36:44.30\00:36:47.24
And if that's not adequate,
00:36:47.24\00:36:49.10
then you have in
Exodus chapter 16,
00:36:49.10\00:36:52.54
before they get to Mount Sinai,
00:36:52.54\00:36:54.51
and God gives
the 10 commandments.
00:36:54.51\00:36:56.48
God says, look, you got hungry,
00:36:56.48\00:36:57.81
I'm gonna give you bread
from heaven six days a week.
00:36:57.81\00:37:01.12
I'll give you
twice as much on Friday
00:37:01.12\00:37:03.08
so you don't have to
gather it on the Sabbath day.
00:37:03.08\00:37:05.69
And he said, this is
the Sabbath of the Lord.
00:37:06.76\00:37:09.66
And then if you
get to the commandment
00:37:09.66\00:37:11.26
itself in Exodus 20,
00:37:11.26\00:37:12.36
it says, it is the
Sabbath of the Lord.
00:37:12.36\00:37:15.46
It doesn't say the
Sabbath of the Jews.
00:37:15.46\00:37:17.90
So the Sabbath Day,
00:37:17.90\00:37:19.73
man has always needed a a day
00:37:19.73\00:37:21.74
of rest and worship.
00:37:21.74\00:37:22.87
It didn't just
begin there in Exodus 20,
00:37:22.87\00:37:27.44
you find it even in Exodus 16.
00:37:27.44\00:37:29.91
In fact, when Moses and Aaron
00:37:29.91\00:37:31.68
went to meet with the Pharaoh,
00:37:31.68\00:37:33.28
first they met with
the elders of Israel
00:37:33.28\00:37:36.15
and they said,
00:37:36.15\00:37:36.95
you need to return to the Lord
00:37:36.95\00:37:38.09
and start obeying him again.
00:37:38.09\00:37:40.12
It's understood they
started keeping the Sabbath
00:37:40.12\00:37:42.36
because Pharaoh
says you're to Moses,
00:37:42.36\00:37:45.46
you're making the people Shabbat
00:37:45.46\00:37:47.13
and that word is Sabbath.
00:37:47.13\00:37:48.06
You are making them Sabbath.
00:37:48.06\00:37:49.40
I'm not gonna give you
straw for your bricks anymore.
00:37:49.40\00:37:52.10
So even they're in Exodus,
00:37:52.10\00:37:53.77
I think it's five,
00:37:53.77\00:37:55.40
that's Exodus three Anyway,
00:37:55.40\00:37:57.01
but when Moses comes back,
00:37:57.01\00:37:59.21
you see the
Sabbath as an issue there.
00:37:59.21\00:38:01.84
And it says in Isaiah, it says,
00:38:01.84\00:38:03.88
even in heaven from
one Sabbath to another
00:38:03.88\00:38:05.81
will all flesh
come and worship before.
00:38:05.81\00:38:07.75
So certainly between creation
and the nation of Israel,
00:38:07.75\00:38:12.45
God's people were keeping
a day of rest in worship.
00:38:12.45\00:38:15.96
- The commandment itself says,
00:38:15.96\00:38:17.33
'Remember the
Sabbath to keep it holy."
00:38:17.33\00:38:19.53
So if it begins with remember,
00:38:19.53\00:38:21.40
it would imply that
there is something that existed
00:38:21.40\00:38:24.40
that they need to
remember or consider.
00:38:24.40\00:38:26.97
And of course the Sabbath,
00:38:26.97\00:38:27.77
As you mentioned Pastor Doug,
00:38:27.77\00:38:28.90
dates all the way
back to Genesis chapter two
00:38:28.90\00:38:31.14
where we find the
creation of the Sabbath.
00:38:31.14\00:38:33.14
- Yeah.
00:38:33.14\00:38:34.24
And then you
look in Genesis 26:5,
00:38:34.24\00:38:35.84
speaking of Abraham says,
00:38:35.84\00:38:37.51
"Because
Abraham obeyed my voice,
00:38:37.51\00:38:39.58
kept my charge, my commandments,
00:38:39.58\00:38:42.38
my statutes and my laws,
00:38:42.38\00:38:44.72
what were the laws of God?
00:38:44.72\00:38:46.32
10 commandments were
not given in Genesis,
00:38:46.32\00:38:48.86
they're not given
until you get to Exodus.
00:38:48.86\00:38:51.33
But Abraham knew
about the commandments
00:38:51.33\00:38:53.40
and the laws of
God in Genesis 26.
00:38:53.40\00:38:56.90
- All right, very good.
00:38:56.90\00:38:57.70
We do have a study guide,
00:38:57.70\00:38:58.77
it's called the
Lost Day of History.
00:38:58.77\00:39:00.47
And we'll be happy to send this
00:39:00.47\00:39:01.27
to anyone who calls and ask.
00:39:01.27\00:39:03.20
The number to call for
that is (800) 835-6747.
00:39:03.20\00:39:07.44
That is the resource phone line,
00:39:07.44\00:39:08.81
that's (800) 835-6747.
00:39:08.81\00:39:11.45
Or if you're North America,
00:39:11.45\00:39:12.68
just dial #250,
00:39:12.68\00:39:14.75
and say, "Bible Answers Live."
00:39:14.75\00:39:16.62
And you'll be able to
get the free offer that way.
00:39:16.62\00:39:18.95
It's called the
Lost Day in History.
00:39:18.95\00:39:21.02
It's got all the verses
and it talks about the Sabbath.
00:39:21.02\00:39:23.76
Next call that we have
is Jean listening in Sweden.
00:39:23.76\00:39:26.46
Jean, welcome to the program.
00:39:26.46\00:39:27.96
- [Jean] Hello.
00:39:30.37\00:39:31.83
Thank you for taking my call.
00:39:31.83\00:39:34.37
- Thank you for calling.
00:39:34.37\00:39:35.47
- [Jean] Say hey,
00:39:35.47\00:39:36.97
I just wanna say I
love both of your work
00:39:38.27\00:39:40.21
and so your blessing.
00:39:40.21\00:39:42.28
So I've been
studying in the Bible
00:39:42.28\00:39:45.48
especially to understand
the doctrine of the Godhead,
00:39:45.48\00:39:49.12
who (indistinct) is
the partisan Holy Spirit.
00:39:49.12\00:39:51.79
And I've been also reading like
00:39:51.79\00:39:54.29
from the old ear
books of the C church.
00:39:54.29\00:39:58.06
And I noticed that right
now when the website says
00:39:58.06\00:40:00.23
we believe in one God
who is as three beings,
00:40:00.23\00:40:04.37
whereas like in
the previous years,
00:40:04.37\00:40:06.40
like the pioneers
times like year 10,
00:40:06.40\00:40:09.30
year 1915, they said,
00:40:09.30\00:40:10.64
we believe in one God
who is the Father as one.
00:40:10.64\00:40:13.61
So my question is from
the Bible especially, yeah,
00:40:13.61\00:40:17.81
like verses like
1 Corinthians 8:6,
00:40:17.81\00:40:21.85
"We have one God,
00:40:21.85\00:40:23.22
the father of whom all things,
00:40:23.22\00:40:24.55
and one Lord Jesus
through whom are all things."
00:40:24.55\00:40:27.22
How can we combine
that understanding,
00:40:27.22\00:40:29.29
and the pioneers with
what is right now being shown
00:40:29.29\00:40:32.66
in the state church?
00:40:32.66\00:40:34.30
- Okay, I
appreciate your question.
00:40:35.46\00:40:37.83
Well first of all,
00:40:39.17\00:40:40.14
when you say the pioneers,
00:40:40.14\00:40:41.67
you know there are different
church fathers through history
00:40:41.67\00:40:45.41
that have had in a variety
of beliefs on different issues.
00:40:45.41\00:40:50.38
Ultimately we need
to go to the Bible.
00:40:51.58\00:40:53.31
It doesn't matter
whether the pioneer
00:40:53.31\00:40:55.05
or Protestant
pioneers like Luther and Calvin
00:40:55.05\00:40:57.75
who didn't agree on some things,
00:40:57.75\00:40:59.79
or as Wing Lee
or Huss, you know,
00:40:59.79\00:41:02.39
there's some, they were
some great godly people,
00:41:02.39\00:41:04.79
but they maybe didn't
have everything right.
00:41:04.79\00:41:07.30
But as time goes by,
00:41:07.30\00:41:08.63
and we continue to
study the scriptures,
00:41:08.63\00:41:11.17
it I think makes it very clear
00:41:12.17\00:41:14.64
that God is composed
00:41:14.64\00:41:16.57
of God the Father, God
the Son, and God the Spirit.
00:41:16.57\00:41:19.91
Now if I understand correctly,
00:41:19.91\00:41:23.18
you're saying the
one God is just God,
00:41:23.18\00:41:25.25
what we would
call God the Father.
00:41:25.25\00:41:27.35
But if you look at the
definitions for God in the
00:41:27.35\00:41:30.72
Bible, you'll find that Jesus
fulfills all those definitions.
00:41:30.72\00:41:33.86
The Bible says that there's
only one savior God, Jehovah.
00:41:35.22\00:41:38.23
While the Bible tells
us that Jesus is savior,
00:41:38.23\00:41:41.33
the Bible tells us in
one Corinthians, I'm sorry,
00:41:41.33\00:41:44.67
said 1 Kings chapter eight,
00:41:44.67\00:41:46.37
God and God only knows
the thoughts of men's hearts,
00:41:46.37\00:41:49.20
yet it says Jesus
knew what was in man.
00:41:49.20\00:41:51.34
Jesus knew what
was in their hearts.
00:41:51.34\00:41:53.81
And you can find that God
and God only can forgive sin.
00:41:53.81\00:41:58.78
The Bible tells us,
speaking of Jehovah,
00:42:00.08\00:42:00.88
which I believe you would think
00:42:00.88\00:42:02.38
would be the
principle of God the Father.
00:42:02.38\00:42:04.52
Well the Bible tells us,
00:42:04.52\00:42:05.82
Jesus said that you
might know the son of man
00:42:05.82\00:42:08.19
has power on
earth to forgive sin.
00:42:08.19\00:42:10.26
The Bible says,
00:42:11.06\00:42:11.89
"In the beginning,
00:42:11.89\00:42:12.89
God created the
heavens and the earth."
00:42:12.89\00:42:14.60
Well then you read
in the gospel of John,
00:42:14.60\00:42:16.70
Jesus created all things.
00:42:16.70\00:42:18.57
So wherever you find the
different attributes of God
00:42:18.57\00:42:22.60
in the Old Testament,
00:42:22.60\00:42:23.71
you see in the New Testament
00:42:23.71\00:42:24.84
that Jesus
mirrors all those things.
00:42:24.84\00:42:27.51
He is God the Son.
00:42:27.51\00:42:28.98
Of course,
00:42:28.98\00:42:30.11
He was limited when
He became a man on earth,
00:42:30.11\00:42:32.78
laid aside His divinity
as it says in Philippians.
00:42:32.78\00:42:35.82
But I think the church
fathers agree that Jesus is,
00:42:35.82\00:42:40.29
He's all knowing now,
00:42:41.22\00:42:42.96
He knows everything,
00:42:42.96\00:42:44.49
that He's all powerful,
00:42:44.49\00:42:45.96
that He has all the
characteristics of God.
00:42:45.96\00:42:48.50
- You know, we have a
book that's called the Trinity.
00:42:48.50\00:42:50.57
Is it biblical?
00:42:50.57\00:42:51.60
And we'll be happy to send that
00:42:51.60\00:42:52.77
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:42:52.77\00:42:54.27
The number is 1-800-835-6747.
00:42:54.27\00:42:57.44
And you can ask for the book,
00:42:57.44\00:42:58.47
it's called The Trinity,
00:42:58.47\00:42:59.81
and we'll be happy
to get it in the mail
00:42:59.81\00:43:01.18
if you're in North
America or in Canada
00:43:01.18\00:43:03.55
and we'll send it to you.
00:43:03.55\00:43:04.65
Of course Canada
is in North America.
00:43:04.65\00:43:05.78
I'm talking about
the US and Canada.
00:43:05.78\00:43:07.78
- Right.
00:43:07.78\00:43:08.58
They're a little further north.
00:43:08.58\00:43:09.68
- That is, they're a
little further north.
00:43:09.68\00:43:11.45
We got Brenda
listening in Maryland.
00:43:11.45\00:43:13.12
Brenda, welcome to
Bible Answers Live.
00:43:13.12\00:43:15.39
- [Brenda] Hi.
00:43:17.36\00:43:18.66
- Hi. Thanks for waiting.
00:43:18.66\00:43:20.03
And your question?
00:43:20.03\00:43:21.90
- [Brenda] Okay, my question is,
00:43:21.90\00:43:24.90
is it wrong to take
money from your sibling
00:43:24.90\00:43:28.54
for your own gain,
00:43:28.54\00:43:30.44
knowing that she
is a non-believer
00:43:30.44\00:43:34.74
and has decided to
continue in her sin
00:43:34.74\00:43:37.58
because it is her lifestyle?
00:43:37.58\00:43:40.75
Where is that in the Bible?
00:43:40.75\00:43:43.15
Is it talked about?
00:43:43.15\00:43:44.79
- Well, let's just
talk through this together.
00:43:45.89\00:43:48.29
Is there any moral dilemma
00:43:49.42\00:43:51.63
in receiving or borrowing money
00:43:51.63\00:43:54.23
from a believer or believer?
00:43:54.23\00:43:56.77
I don't know of any place.
00:43:56.77\00:43:58.77
I mean, if you go to the bank,
00:43:58.77\00:44:00.20
and even borrow
money from the bank,
00:44:00.20\00:44:01.57
they're
certainly not a believer.
00:44:01.57\00:44:02.64
And there's no moral dilemma.
00:44:02.64\00:44:04.21
If you've got a transaction,
00:44:04.21\00:44:05.44
if someone's giving you a gift,
00:44:05.44\00:44:07.48
they don't have
to be a believer.
00:44:07.48\00:44:09.28
If someone gives you a gift of,
00:44:09.28\00:44:11.88
and they say, well,
00:44:11.88\00:44:12.95
you know, I don't
really believe in God,
00:44:12.95\00:44:14.62
but I believe in the
church's mission program,
00:44:14.62\00:44:17.52
well say,
00:44:17.52\00:44:18.32
praise the Lord and take it
00:44:18.32\00:44:19.42
and continue
your mission program.
00:44:19.42\00:44:20.09
So what is your concern?
00:44:20.09\00:44:22.32
Is your concern that you'll
00:44:22.32\00:44:23.39
somehow endorsing
your sister's unbelief
00:44:23.39\00:44:25.53
by receiving financial aid?
00:44:25.53\00:44:27.60
- [Brenda] Yeah.
00:44:28.43\00:44:30.03
- No.
00:44:30.03\00:44:31.30
And hopefully, she
won't think that, you know,
00:44:31.30\00:44:34.17
they're two separate matters,
00:44:34.17\00:44:35.90
needing some financial help
00:44:35.90\00:44:37.57
is you're not endorsing what
her theological beliefs are.
00:44:38.97\00:44:42.84
It's a
completely different level.
00:44:42.84\00:44:44.58
It's, you know, you're
talking about, you know,
00:44:44.58\00:44:45.88
practical financial matters.
00:44:45.88\00:44:48.35
So can you think,
00:44:48.35\00:44:49.68
I can't think of a reason
that that would be a conflict?
00:44:49.68\00:44:52.69
Yeah. So, you know,
00:44:53.56\00:44:54.82
continue to be a good
witness for your sister.
00:44:54.82\00:44:57.46
You said sibling,
00:44:57.46\00:44:58.29
but then you said she,
00:44:58.29\00:44:59.29
so I'm assuming it's a sister.
00:44:59.29\00:45:01.33
So yeah, just three things
you can do to reach her is,
00:45:01.33\00:45:05.03
well, four things.
00:45:05.03\00:45:05.87
Be a good witness.
00:45:05.87\00:45:07.14
Share information
if she will listen,
00:45:07.14\00:45:09.77
pray for her.
00:45:09.77\00:45:11.01
And the fourth thing is continue
00:45:11.01\00:45:13.01
to do the first three things.
00:45:13.01\00:45:15.14
Be patient.
00:45:15.14\00:45:16.78
- All right, next, Carice,
00:45:16.78\00:45:19.08
listening in Washington.
00:45:19.08\00:45:20.35
Carice, welcome to the program.
00:45:20.35\00:45:22.95
- [Carice] Hello, good night.
00:45:22.95\00:45:24.89
- Evening.
00:45:24.89\00:45:26.19
- [Carice] Thank
you for taking my call.
00:45:26.19\00:45:27.92
I just got a
question from Matthew 12:3-5.
00:45:27.92\00:45:32.79
Was God saying it was okay
00:45:34.96\00:45:36.90
for David action
and the priest action?
00:45:36.90\00:45:40.34
'Cause he said
David ate the shewbread.
00:45:40.34\00:45:43.00
- Yes.
00:45:43.00\00:45:43.91
Jesus is, first of all,
00:45:44.67\00:45:46.01
Jesus apostles are being
criticized because they're,
00:45:46.01\00:45:49.34
you know, eating grain out of
the fields on the Sabbath day.
00:45:49.34\00:45:52.31
And Jesus is defending
them and saying, you know,
00:45:52.31\00:45:55.72
it's silly for you to
accuse the apostles of gleaning
00:45:55.72\00:45:59.89
or harvesting or
doing work on the Sabbath.
00:45:59.89\00:46:01.92
All they were doing was
picking heads off the grain.
00:46:01.92\00:46:04.26
They'd rub them in their hands,
00:46:04.26\00:46:05.59
they'd blow the chaff away
and pop them in their mouths.
00:46:05.59\00:46:07.73
They're just
walking along and grabbing,
00:46:07.73\00:46:09.23
it's perfectly legal to glean
00:46:09.23\00:46:11.63
according to the Bible stuff
00:46:11.63\00:46:12.83
that you could
reach from the road.
00:46:12.83\00:46:14.60
And they weren't laboring,
00:46:14.60\00:46:16.50
it wasn't labor intensive.
00:46:16.50\00:46:17.84
And then Jesus
pointed back to how David,
00:46:17.84\00:46:22.21
when he was running from Saul,
00:46:22.21\00:46:23.61
he went to the priest
and said, you know, I,
00:46:23.61\00:46:25.51
and I guess a couple
men with him are very hungry
00:46:25.51\00:46:28.28
and they used to
replace the holy bread
00:46:28.28\00:46:31.09
in from the holy place
00:46:31.09\00:46:33.29
and they had some what
you would call day old bread.
00:46:33.29\00:46:36.73
And the priest said,
00:46:36.73\00:46:37.86
well the only bread
that we have we can give you
00:46:37.86\00:46:38.96
is the bread we
took out of the temple.
00:46:38.96\00:46:41.33
And if you know,
00:46:41.33\00:46:42.70
you and the young men
have been living holy lives,
00:46:42.70\00:46:46.43
you can have it.
00:46:46.43\00:46:48.74
And David took it.
00:46:48.74\00:46:50.11
Now that was no sin for
David to take that bread.
00:46:50.11\00:46:53.11
The priest said that they could
00:46:53.11\00:46:54.34
and he told them
what the criteria were.
00:46:54.34\00:46:56.71
The sin was.
00:46:56.71\00:46:58.11
David lied and said he
was on business for the king,
00:46:58.11\00:47:01.08
but there was nothing
wrong with David on the Sabbath.
00:47:01.08\00:47:03.55
They getting this
bread from the priest.
00:47:03.55\00:47:05.85
Is that your
understanding Pastor Ross?
00:47:05.85\00:47:07.62
- Yeah.
00:47:07.62\00:47:08.69
And I think the
point of the whole,
00:47:08.69\00:47:09.76
the reason Jesus
even brings that up
00:47:09.76\00:47:11.06
is because in verse
seven he makes the point.
00:47:11.06\00:47:12.39
He says,
00:47:12.39\00:47:13.50
"But if you would've
known what this means,
00:47:13.50\00:47:15.96
I desire mercy not sacrifices,
00:47:15.96\00:47:17.97
you would not have
condemned the guiltless."
00:47:17.97\00:47:19.97
So I think Jesus is saying that
00:47:19.97\00:47:21.30
when it comes to showing
mercy and helping those in need,
00:47:21.30\00:47:24.97
that is a very high
priority when it comes to God.
00:47:24.97\00:47:28.21
And here you
have David and his man
00:47:28.21\00:47:29.68
and they are suffering hunger.
00:47:29.68\00:47:30.71
They've been
running for many days.
00:47:30.71\00:47:32.01
They are faint. They need food.
00:47:32.01\00:47:34.48
And it was an act
of mercy to allow them
00:47:34.48\00:47:36.32
to eat of the used
shewbread Dale shewbread.
00:47:36.32\00:47:39.42
So I think the point
Christ is emphasizing
00:47:39.42\00:47:42.26
is the most
important thing is mercy.
00:47:42.26\00:47:44.33
And that's what
you're neglecting
00:47:44.33\00:47:45.63
when it comes to your dealing
00:47:45.63\00:47:46.93
with their
traditions and their laws.
00:47:46.93\00:47:49.66
- Yes.
00:47:49.66\00:47:51.03
- For example, just a quick
example of that Pastor I give,
00:47:51.03\00:47:53.03
you know,
00:47:53.03\00:47:54.14
the Bible speaks about
remembering the Sabbath
00:47:54.14\00:47:55.10
to keep it holy.
00:47:55.10\00:47:55.90
And you don't wanna be involved
00:47:55.90\00:47:56.71
in secular labor on that day.
00:47:56.71\00:47:58.74
But let's say you have a friend
00:47:58.74\00:48:00.51
who is in desperate need,
00:48:00.51\00:48:01.84
let's say they sick and
they need medical attention.
00:48:01.84\00:48:06.55
You don't want them to suffer
00:48:06.55\00:48:07.62
during the hours of the Sabbath.
00:48:07.62\00:48:09.22
You wanna do
everything you can to help them
00:48:09.22\00:48:11.92
and leave that
pain and that suffering
00:48:11.92\00:48:13.96
that is showing mercy.
00:48:13.96\00:48:15.06
- Yeah.
00:48:15.06\00:48:16.39
And that's really the principle
that Christ is emphasizing.
00:48:16.39\00:48:17.56
Or if someone's hungry,
00:48:17.56\00:48:18.73
give them something to eat.
00:48:18.73\00:48:20.03
- Absolutely.
00:48:20.03\00:48:21.40
- Alright, thank
you for your call.
00:48:21.40\00:48:22.50
Next call that we
have is Raylene in Texas.
00:48:22.50\00:48:24.93
Raylene, welcome to the program.
00:48:24.93\00:48:26.60
- [Raylene] Hello Mr. Batchelor.
00:48:27.50\00:48:29.17
- Hi, how are you Raylene?
00:48:29.17\00:48:30.91
- [Raylene] Hi, I'm fine.
00:48:30.91\00:48:32.64
It's good to talk to you.
00:48:32.64\00:48:34.71
- Well likewise.
00:48:34.71\00:48:36.01
What's your question tonight?
00:48:36.01\00:48:37.55
- [Raylene] I know someone,
00:48:39.55\00:48:41.75
that I guess
would say is a minister
00:48:41.75\00:48:44.12
and they're preaching the gospel
00:48:44.92\00:48:48.29
to the Israelites
00:48:49.09\00:48:51.86
and a lot of
things that he's saying I,
00:48:53.09\00:48:56.67
I disagree with,
00:48:56.67\00:48:58.07
especially when it comes to
00:48:58.07\00:49:01.67
the 10 commandment law of God.
00:49:01.67\00:49:03.87
He is trying to
get the Israelites
00:49:04.97\00:49:08.34
to come to Christ
that I agree with.
00:49:08.34\00:49:10.18
'Cause a lot of them
don't believe in Christ.
00:49:10.18\00:49:14.35
But the thing of it is
00:49:14.35\00:49:18.12
that I disagree with because
a lot of them keep the Sabbath.
00:49:19.52\00:49:23.96
They not gonna
want to, they can't,
00:49:23.96\00:49:26.29
you can't get them to
let go of that teaching
00:49:26.29\00:49:30.90
when the Sabbath
is for all means.
00:49:30.90\00:49:33.80
And then it's a
lot of, you know,
00:49:33.80\00:49:35.77
us on the other side
that need to let go of Sunday
00:49:35.77\00:49:39.71
and learn about
God's day, the Sabbath.
00:49:39.71\00:49:43.45
So you know,
00:49:43.45\00:49:44.55
it is like
that's what he's doing
00:49:44.55\00:49:47.92
is dividing still the people.
00:49:47.92\00:49:51.35
'Cause the only way you going,
00:49:51.35\00:49:53.89
you can't get them.
00:49:53.89\00:49:55.19
Like the both
need to come together,
00:49:55.19\00:49:57.83
in other words.
00:49:57.83\00:49:58.66
- Right.
00:49:58.66\00:49:59.73
- [Raylene] Those
that keep Sunday need
00:49:59.73\00:50:00.90
to really learn the true day.
00:50:00.90\00:50:03.53
And those that
already keep themselves
00:50:03.53\00:50:05.57
need to come to Christ.
00:50:05.57\00:50:07.40
And then keep saying that
00:50:07.40\00:50:09.24
it is almost like he's saying
00:50:09.24\00:50:10.94
we need to come to Christ house
00:50:10.94\00:50:14.38
because Christ
has his own house.
00:50:14.38\00:50:18.58
Okay. The house of
steal the house of God to me.
00:50:18.58\00:50:22.92
- Yeah.
00:50:23.89\00:50:24.95
- [Raylene] You
know, it's not God,
00:50:24.95\00:50:26.32
Christ's not going to
teach separate from the Father.
00:50:26.32\00:50:28.12
- Yeah.
00:50:28.12\00:50:28.92
You know,
00:50:28.92\00:50:29.82
the good news is that,
00:50:29.82\00:50:30.63
Jesus really says that there's,
00:50:30.63\00:50:32.16
you know, one Lord,
00:50:32.16\00:50:33.86
one faith, one baptism,
00:50:33.86\00:50:35.23
God is not calling us
into different truths.
00:50:35.23\00:50:39.23
There's one truth.
00:50:39.23\00:50:40.97
The Bible says,
"God says I am the Lord."
00:50:40.97\00:50:43.47
I do not change
Jesus Christ is the same
00:50:43.47\00:50:45.44
yesterday, today, and forever.
00:50:45.44\00:50:47.58
And if you read in
Galatians chapter two,
00:50:47.58\00:50:52.55
it says that in Christ there is
00:50:53.45\00:50:54.95
neither male or female,
00:50:54.95\00:50:57.59
bond or free Jew or Gentile.
00:50:57.59\00:51:00.92
Now that means that we
are all called together
00:51:00.92\00:51:03.66
to worship
together in one truth.
00:51:03.66\00:51:06.29
And so,
00:51:06.29\00:51:07.60
now I can understand,
00:51:07.60\00:51:08.70
you might tailor
your message a little bit
00:51:08.70\00:51:10.70
for different people
00:51:10.70\00:51:11.50
'cause to try and reach them,
00:51:11.50\00:51:13.23
but the goal is to
bring them into one truth.
00:51:13.23\00:51:15.60
Paul said, you
know, to the Jews,
00:51:16.67\00:51:17.91
I become a Jew to reach the Jews
00:51:17.91\00:51:20.18
and to the Gentiles like a
Gentiles reach the Gentiles.
00:51:20.18\00:51:23.35
So you gotta be
sensitive to where people are
00:51:23.35\00:51:25.61
and make sure
you're preaching to them
00:51:25.61\00:51:27.28
and what their needs are.
00:51:27.28\00:51:28.82
But ultimately he
wants us to come together
00:51:28.82\00:51:30.72
and be in one body.
00:51:30.72\00:51:32.52
- All right.
00:51:32.52\00:51:33.32
Thank you for your call Raylene.
00:51:33.32\00:51:34.39
We've got Patrick
listening in Kentucky.
00:51:34.39\00:51:36.16
Patrick, welcome to the program.
00:51:36.16\00:51:38.33
- [Patrick] Hi
there. How y'all doing?
00:51:38.33\00:51:40.20
- Doing great.
Thanks for calling.
00:51:40.20\00:51:41.93
- [Patrick] So my question is,
00:51:43.23\00:51:45.23
I'm sure you've
answered this before,
00:51:45.23\00:51:46.80
but I just, I've never heard it,
00:51:46.80\00:51:48.20
but so I've always heard,
00:51:48.20\00:51:51.51
I don't know if you
guys heard this or not,
00:51:51.51\00:51:53.04
but when Jesus died,
00:51:53.04\00:51:55.61
when he I guess was in the tomb,
00:51:55.61\00:51:58.65
but his spirit
was walking around,
00:51:58.65\00:51:59.95
I'm not really
sure how it works,
00:51:59.95\00:52:01.35
but I've heard that he
went down to hell to preach.
00:52:01.35\00:52:05.42
Well I've always have
known and that whenever we die,
00:52:05.42\00:52:10.13
that we don't know
nothing until Jesus comes back,
00:52:10.13\00:52:13.19
then the dead,
then Christ will rise.
00:52:13.19\00:52:15.66
Well if he did go
preach to people in Hell,
00:52:15.66\00:52:18.93
who were they or
how were they in hell?
00:52:18.93\00:52:21.27
- Yeah.
00:52:22.10\00:52:22.90
- [Patrick] That makes sense.
00:52:22.90\00:52:24.27
- Yeah, I think now
what's that verse again pastor?
00:52:24.27\00:52:26.21
- Yeah.
00:52:26.21\00:52:27.28
I think I've got it
here 1 Peter chapter 3.
00:52:27.28\00:52:28.24
- There you go.
00:52:28.24\00:52:29.34
- And the reason
we know the verse,
00:52:29.34\00:52:30.48
'cause we do get
this question quite often,
00:52:30.48\00:52:32.11
let me read it.
00:52:32.11\00:52:33.48
It says, "For Christ
also suffered once for sins,
00:52:33.48\00:52:35.15
the just for the unjust
00:52:35.15\00:52:36.28
that he might bring us to God
00:52:36.28\00:52:38.65
being put to death in the flesh,
00:52:38.65\00:52:40.62
but made alive by the Spirit
00:52:40.62\00:52:42.79
by whom all say went and
preached to the spirits in
00:52:42.79\00:52:45.66
prison who
formally were disobedience
00:52:45.66\00:52:47.66
once the divine
long suffering waited
00:52:47.66\00:52:49.46
in the days of Noah
00:52:49.46\00:52:50.73
while the arc
was being prepared,
00:52:50.73\00:52:52.43
in which a few,
00:52:52.43\00:52:53.70
that his eight souls
was saved through water."
00:52:53.70\00:52:56.27
- Yeah, so when people
hear that Jesus preached
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to the spirits in prison,
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they think,
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and then they hear
about the days of Noah.
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They say, oh, when
Jesus died on the cross,
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He didn't really die,
00:53:04.71\00:53:06.51
but he went down to hell
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and he preached another
whole evangelistic series
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for all the people that died
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in the days of
Noah in the flood.
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That's really a
bizarre teaching,
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because the people
in the days of Noah,
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they had 120 years to hear
Christ preach through Noah.
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And this is what
Peter's actually saying,
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he's referring us back to,
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if you go in your Bible,
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the Genesis chapter 6:3,
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God said,
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"My spirit will not
strive with man forever
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for ye indeed flesh.
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Yet his days will be 120 years.
00:53:37.78\00:53:40.95
Now that didn't mean
they're gonna live 120 years.
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It meant that God
was giving them back
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then 120 years
00:53:44.72\00:53:47.06
until the flood came,
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that they could hear Noah
preach through the Spirit.
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God spoke to
those imprisoned by sin.
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They weren't dead or
in a dungeon somewhere.
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But Christ was preaching
even back in the days of Noah
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through the same spirit
that arose him from the dead.
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That's all it's saying.
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When Christ died on the cross,
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He died.
00:54:05.94\00:54:07.21
He was not alive in a,
00:54:07.21\00:54:08.74
He wasn't
disembodied and roaming around
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and then suddenly, you know,
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returned back to the tomb.
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He was dead until he
was raised Sunday morning
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and he wasn't on any
journeys or doing any,
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any deeds anywhere.
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So this is a verse that
has often been misunderstood
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00:54:25.86\00:54:27.30
"Are the Dead really dead?"
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Alright, pastor Doug,
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the first question for today,
00:55:54.18\00:55:55.58
what does it mean when Jesus
said the first shall be last
00:55:55.58\00:55:58.29
and the last shall be
first in Matthew 20:16?
00:55:58.29\00:56:01.29
- Yeah, it means if you
follow me to the grocery line,
00:56:02.59\00:56:05.46
you'll probably be last,
00:56:06.29\00:56:08.03
because I always
pick the longest line.
00:56:08.03\00:56:10.87
No, actually
Jesus is saying that
00:56:10.87\00:56:12.83
even though the Jewish nation
00:56:12.83\00:56:15.20
had been chosen back
in the days of Abraham,
00:56:15.20\00:56:18.61
that they might be surprised
that there would be Gentiles
00:56:18.61\00:56:22.51
that would accept
and embrace the gospel
00:56:22.51\00:56:25.01
with even more enthusiasm.
00:56:25.01\00:56:26.31
They could be in
the kingdom first.
00:56:26.31\00:56:28.78
And so he was trying to
explain to the Jewish nation,
00:56:28.78\00:56:31.35
just because you were
first called doesn't mean
00:56:31.35\00:56:34.49
that you know, the
others are precluded.
00:56:34.49\00:56:37.19
He wants everyone to be saved.
00:56:37.19\00:56:39.29
- Okay, the next
question that we have.
00:56:39.29\00:56:40.56
Does God expect us to
forgive a person straight away
00:56:40.56\00:56:43.40
if they hurt us
00:56:43.40\00:56:44.83
or is forgiving
someone a process of time?
00:56:44.83\00:56:47.64
- You know,
00:56:48.64\00:56:50.04
I think God understands
that if you've been deeply hurt,
00:56:50.04\00:56:52.11
that while a Christian knows
we are commanded to forgive,
00:56:52.11\00:56:54.51
and you may choose in your
heart to forgive right away,
00:56:54.51\00:56:57.21
there may be a little
bit of a healing process
00:56:57.21\00:56:59.71
where you lick your wounds,
00:56:59.71\00:57:01.25
and I think God
understands that.
00:57:01.25\00:57:02.92
But you know, he wants
us to make that decision.
00:57:02.92\00:57:05.79
To follow His word
00:57:05.79\00:57:07.49
and to
ultimately forgive everybody
00:57:07.49\00:57:10.09
doesn't mean you
need to trust them again
00:57:11.29\00:57:12.66
or be involved with him again.
00:57:12.66\00:57:13.80
But we need to
forgive otherwise it hurts us.
00:57:13.80\00:57:16.40
- Okay, another
question that we have,
00:57:16.40\00:57:17.20
what did Jesus mean when he said
00:57:17.20\00:57:18.70
the night is coming
when no one can work?
00:57:18.70\00:57:22.10
- Well, the work that
Jesus is talking about
00:57:22.10\00:57:24.07
is sharing the
gospel of the kingdom.
00:57:24.07\00:57:26.71
And in the time of Christ,
00:57:26.71\00:57:28.78
they had a
certain amount of freedom.
00:57:28.78\00:57:30.51
They were actually
protected by the Romans at first
00:57:30.51\00:57:33.58
to preach the gospel.
00:57:33.58\00:57:34.72
But a great persecution came
00:57:34.72\00:57:36.92
that made it very difficult.
00:57:36.92\00:57:38.75
It was a night,
a spiritual night.
00:57:38.75\00:57:40.82
You can also see
that prophetically
00:57:40.82\00:57:42.32
in Revelation during the time
00:57:42.32\00:57:44.26
when that the Dark horse came
00:57:44.26\00:57:45.89
and the Red Horse persecution.
00:57:45.89\00:57:48.73
And now for us
living in the last days,
00:57:48.73\00:57:51.00
we've got great freedom
for preaching the gospel
00:57:51.00\00:57:53.60
in many countries, not all,
00:57:53.60\00:57:55.70
but the time is
coming where persecution
00:57:55.70\00:57:57.81
from the beast power is
gonna make it very difficult.
00:57:57.81\00:58:00.84
So we gotta work now.
00:58:00.84\00:58:01.74
While it is day,
00:58:01.74\00:58:02.84
the night is coming
when no man can work.
00:58:02.84\00:58:05.35
And that's why
we do this program,
00:58:05.35\00:58:06.72
friends is to share the
good news and do the work.
00:58:06.72\00:58:09.22
Thank you for your prayers
00:58:09.22\00:58:10.29
and helping us to
keep up the good news.
00:58:10.29\00:58:12.89
We'll study
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