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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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- Hello, friends!
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Would you like to
hear an amazing fact?
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In 2019, contractors in
North Yorkshire, England
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were renovating
someone's kitchen.
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After prying up the
old wooden floorboards
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and breaking through
six inches of concrete,
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they unearthed a glazed cup
similar in size to a soda can.
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In and around the cup,
they found 260 gold coins,
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dating between 1610 and 1727.
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The coins were
likely hidden there
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by Joseph and Sarah
Fernley-Maisters, a wealthy
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merchant couple that once
lived in the house and evidently
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didn't have much faith in
the local banks of their day.
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The estimated value of the
treasure is more than $290,000,
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which would help pay
for the remodeled kitchen.
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I don't know what
you think, Pastor Ross.
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Maybe they'll have some left
over to bury under the floor.
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- That's right,
maybe for the next person
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who buys the
house. (Jean laughs)
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But you think of all of
the hard work that they put
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into trying to gather this
treasure, and then they bury it,
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and evidently, they didn't
pass it on to their children,
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or they died tragically,
they forgot about it.
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And here many years
later, somebody uncovers it
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while they're
remodeling the kitchen.
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It almost seems a waste.
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They could have used it
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for the benefit of
others at their time.
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Wouldn't that have been
better than just burying it?
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- Yeah, it's sad when
people, they hoard money.
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I mean, they could at
least pass it onto their heirs
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or something, give it to a
foundation, but this got buried
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and discovered
centuries later by strangers.
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I think there's actually a
proverb that talks about that.
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Jesus tells us in
Luke chapter 12 verse 16,
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"He spoke this
parable to them, saying,
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"The ground of a certain
rich man yielded plentifully,
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"and he thought within himself,
saying, What shall I do,
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"since I have no room
to store all my crops?"
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He thought a little bit,
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and then he said,
"This is what I'll do.
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"I'll pull down my
barns and I'll build greater,
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"and there I'll store
all my crops and my goods.
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"I'll say to my soul,
Soul, you have many goods
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"laid up for many
years; take your ease.
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"Eat, drink, and be merry.
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"But God said to him,
Fool, this night your soul
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"will be required of you;
then whose will those things be
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"for which you have provided?
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"So is he who lays
up treasure for himself
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"and is not rich towards God."
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- Yeah, it's an amazing parable.
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Here you have this
person who's been blessed,
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and they think,
"Well, I'm gonna hoard
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all of these
blessings to myself,"
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but in reality, it
would have been better
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if he used it to build
up the kingdom of heaven.
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I'm reminded of the
other verse, Pastor Doug,
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that says, "Lay up for
yourselves not treasure on
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earth, "but rather in heaven,
and where your treasure is,
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"that's where your
heart will be also."
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So the principle that we
find in the Bible is that
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there is an investment that
believers can be involved in
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that actually earns
dividends throughout eternity.
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We can lay up
treasure in heaven.
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- And you know, it is true,
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and I don't wanna sound
like a prosperity preacher,
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but there is some truth to the
scripture, the principle that
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with what measure you
mete, it'll be measured to you.
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Jesus tells us
that if we're generous,
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that men will
heap into your bosom.
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People will be
generous with you.
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God says if you prove Him,
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test Him when it
comes to tithe and offering,
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He says "See if I don't open
for you the windows of heaven."
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So even in this life,
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it's more blessed
to give than receive,
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'cause it seems
like blessings ricochet.
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They come back. - Absolutely.
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You know, a lot of
people are wondering,
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what are the
biblical principles for money?
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As you mentioned, Pastor
Doug, there's some confusion,
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even in the Christian world,
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as to how we ought
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You'll be surprised,
Jesus said quite a bit
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about finances and
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let's start with
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Dear Father, once
again, we are grateful
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for this opportunity to be able
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Lord, there is
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So we're gonna ask Your blessing
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Be with us here in the studio,
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We ask this in
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- Amen. - All right,
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I think we're ready for
our first caller this evening!
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We've got Patrick, and
he's calling from Canada.
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Patrick, you're on the air.
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- [Patrick] Good
evening, pastors.
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- Evening!
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- [Patrick] Thank
you, I have a question
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in regards to Ezekiel
chapter four verse nine.
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I'd like to find out
if that has any relation
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to the Ezekiel bread that
is sold today, and verse 12,
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if that has any relationship
to do with verse nine.
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- Yeah, well,
some people have taken
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the verses here in Ezekiel four,
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and lemme read it for our
friends that are listening.
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We just wanna remember that
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90% of the people
listening to the program,
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they can't maybe look
it up right at the moment.
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But it says here in Ezekiel
verse nine, this is a prophecy
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that came to the
prophet Ezekiel from the Lord.
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"Also take for
yourself wheat, barley,
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"beans, lentils,
millet, and spelt.
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"Put them in one vessel and
make bread of them for yourself.
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"During the number of
days that you lie on your side,
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"390 days, you shall eat
it, and it shall be your food.
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"You shall eat by
weight 20 shekels a day
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"from the time
that you shall eat it.
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"You shall also drink
water by measure, 1/6 of a hin,
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"from the time you shall drink.
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"And you'll eat
it as barley cakes
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"and bake it using the fuel
of human waste in their sight."
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Now, that certainly
would not be a good recipe
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for health-conscious
people to follow.
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I think God is telling Ezekiel,
by living out this parable,
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he was describing
the period of time
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that the people in Israel
and Judea that remained behind
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were gonna be
experiencing some famine.
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And they were taking
everything they could find
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and putting it in their bread.
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Now, people have made,
I've eaten Ezekiel bread before.
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They made some
good-tasting bread
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by combining these
different elements.
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When Ezekiel
protests, he says, "Lord,
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"I can't bake this over
human waste, that's unclean!
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"I'm a priest!
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"I've never done
anything unclean!"
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God says, "Well, I'm gonna
let you use cow dung instead."
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And for ages, people have
actually cooked on buffalo chips
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and animal dung. (Doug laughs)
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You've probably
seen it in Africa.
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So that was not that uncommon.
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But this is a parable
that Ezekiel was living out
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talking about the hardship
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that God's people
were gonna go through.
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It's not necessarily a
recipe for health bread.
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- That's right, and the context
that you mentioned there,
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Pastor Doug,
they were making bread
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out of whatever they could find.
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Typically in the Bible,
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the best kind of bread
was bread made from wheat,
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but here in this situation,
wheat was hard to come by,
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and so they were
using some wheat,
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but they were mixing
whatever they could find.
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- Barley was
usually for the animals.
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That's a prophecy in
Revelation that says,
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what is it, a measure
of barley for a penny?
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It's talking
about a time of famine.
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- That's right, yeah, shortness.
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Well, thank you
for your call, Patrick!
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We hope that helped,
and there is, as mentioned,
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there is a bread
that's called Ezekiel bread,
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and I don't know if they use
every single one of these items
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listed here, but
it is pretty good.
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Thomas listening in Minnesota.
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Thomas, welcome to the
program, you're on the air.
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- [Thomas] Yeah, I'm having
trouble explaining myself.
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Let me explain.
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Basically speaking, I ran
across something, let's see.
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We have something
in my Roku network
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called Special
Projects: Prophecy Alert.
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Let me explain.
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They explain some
activity on Pope Francis,
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one of which was of
course trying to unify
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all the Christians together
and have a one-world religion.
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Secondly, we had him
go to the Temple Mount
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and try to negotiate
peace with the Palestinians.
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Now, according
to this thing, now,
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the reference I'm making here,
the Prophecy Alert is called
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Special Projects:
Prophecy Alert Three of Eight.
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So, at least the article
said that was very significant,
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and in fact, the events that
were occurring were actually,
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they cited II Thessalonians
chapter four, one to four.
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So any significance to
that? - Oh, okay, thank you.
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Let's go to the verse that
you mentioned, II Thessalonians
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chapter two, verses one
through four, yeah, yeah.
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"Now brethren,
concerning the coming
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"of our Lord Jesus Christ and
our gathering together to him,
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"we ask you not to be soon
shaken in mind or troubled,
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"either by spirit or by
word or by letter from us,
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"as though the day
of the Lord had come."
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Paul is telling the
Thessalonians, he says,
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there was a lot of excitement
that the day of the Lord
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had already come, and he
said, "Let no one deceive you
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"by any means, for
that day will not come
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"unless there is a
falling away that comes first,
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"and the man of sin is
revealed, the son of perdition,
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"who opposes and exalts himself
above all that is called God
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"or worshiped so
that he sits as God
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"in the temple of God
showing himself that he is God."
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So let's talk about that verse.
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It's hard for me to comment
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on what you may have
seen at a website somewhere,
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but most Protestants, I
mean, like Luther and Spurgeon
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and Wesley and many
others, Calvin and John Knox,
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they identified this verse,
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the man of sin they
believed was the pope.
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They believed it
was a religious leader
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that was putting himself
in a place to be worshiped,
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putting himself
over the temple of God.
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Now, keep in mind, one
of the terms for the church
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as the body of Christ,
Jesus said we are living stones.
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Christ said, "Destroy
this temple made with hands.
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"In three days, I will
make one without hands."
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He's talking about His
body, which is the Church.
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So Paul says, "What, don't
you know that ye are the temple
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"of God," meaning
collectively, we are the temple.
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So they understood
that for the pope to say,
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"I am in charge of the Church,"
where Jesus really never
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assigned any one pastor or
apostle to be over everything;
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you see it bouncing
between Paul and Peter
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and James in the New Testament;
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they said that was
Antichrist behavior.
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And it's interesting to
know that the first person
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who called the office of
pope "Antichrist" was a pope.
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- That's right. (Jean laughs)
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- It's Pope
Gregory. (both laughing)
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- There was quite a
fight that went on between,
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well, two
individuals claimed to be pope,
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and they went back and
forth, accusing one another
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of being the
Antichrist. - That's right.
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That was during
the time of Marco Polo.
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- Yes, absolutely.
- He was trying to get
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missionaries, and they
were fighting among themselves,
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calling each other antichrists.
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- That's right, and
then it occurred later on
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during the time
of the Reformation,
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where the Reformers
even pointed that out.
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So it's happened more than once,
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where there was different
individuals vying for power.
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- So what's happening
now, and based on the question
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that Josiah, or Thomas,
rather, is asking, is that,
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since the
Protestant churches all came
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out of the Catholic church,
in succeeding generations,
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that animosity has dissipated,
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and the Pope is calling
Protestants to reunite again,
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and we are seeing a
big movement towards that.
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Pope Francis has reached
out to the Russian Orthodox
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and the Greek Orthodox
and the Coptic Church leaders,
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and
Charismatics in North America
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have gone to meet with the Pope.
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He's saying, "Look, the
most important thing is,
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"let's just be one,"
and that sounds beautiful,
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but it doesn't
mean you sacrifice
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doctrinal truth
for the sake of unity.
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And so, that's the thing
we need to be careful about.
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- All right, thanks
for your call, Thomas.
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We've got Josiah
listening as well.
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Josiah listening from New
York, welcome to the program.
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- [Josiah] Good evening.
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Just to add to what you just
said with the previous caller,
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so aren't you
guys all Protestant?
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Don't you all go back to the
Catholic Church, like you say?
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- Yeah, well, most Protestants,
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most Protestant denominations,
were kind of drawn
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out of the Catholic
Church, and they retained
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maybe even some of the
theology in their doctrines.
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- Some of the
traditions of the church, too.
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- Now, there have
been people since then,
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since the
Protestant Reformation,
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that came from total
paganism; I'm one of 'em.
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I didn't really come
from a Christian church.
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I read the Bible, and just
said, I'm gonna go by the Bible.
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So there's a lot of people
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that have just kind
of come into the truth
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or come to the Lord
directly from the Word.
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But several
denominations either broke away
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from the Catholic
church, or they broke away
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from break-always,
which is why you've got
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so many divisions of
Methodists and Presbyterians
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and Baptists and
Christians in the world today.
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But am I answering
your question, Jerry?
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- [Josiah] Oh,
that's not the question.
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I just wanted to add
to what he was asking.
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But I'm dealing with
the same chapter though
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in II Thessalonians.
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You read one through four.
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Can you continue
reading to eight, please?
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- All right, lemme
start with verse five.
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"Do you not remember that
when I was still with you,
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"I told you these things?
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"And now you know
what is restraining,
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that he may be
revealed in his own time.
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"For the mystery of
lawlessness," called in the King
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James "the mystery of
iniquity," "is already at work.
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"Only he who now restrains
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"will do so until he
is taken out of the way.
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"Then that lawless
one will be revealed
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"whom the Lord will consume
with the breath of his mouth
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"and destroy with the
brightness of his coming."
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So that's the verse I think
you're talking about, right?
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- [Josiah] Yeah, it's
what I'm talking about.
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It's verse
eight and verse three.
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Verse three says, "Let no
man deceive you by any means,
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"for that day shall not come
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"except there come a falling
away first and that man of sin
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"be revealed, the
son of perdition,"
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but when you go to
verse eight, then it says,
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"And then shall
the wicked be revealed,
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"whom the Lord shall consume
with the spirit of his mouth."
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So who is that wicked?
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Where can you go in the Bible,
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'cause I've done some research.
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Who does the Bible
say is "the wicked"?
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- Well, first of all, the
ultimate wicked one is the
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devil. I mean,
you don't find anybody
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that is supervising
the devil in wickedness.
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So he would be the supreme
power behind the other powers.
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But the devil
has been manipulating
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what is called "the
beast power" through history.
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It receives a deadly wound,
and the deadly wound is healed,
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and like I said, the
Protestants understand
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that that was the papacy
that became a persecuting power
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during the time
of the Inquisition,
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and it's kinda coming
back in on the stage now.
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They've got a seat
in the United Nations.
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No other church
does. - That's right.
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And different named are used.
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Here in the New
King James that I have,
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it refers to "the lawless
one," and then it goes on
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and it talks about
"the son of perdition."
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It's talking about
this one who is doing
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"with all unrighteous deception
amongst those who perish."
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So it's the same power
that's being referred to,
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and we're not talking
specifically about one
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individual. We're
talking about a position
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and an office. - An office.
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- 'Cause the papal position
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has lasted for
almost 2,000 years.
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So it's talking about
that system or that power,
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and it's got different names.
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Lawless is interesting,
that he's setting aside
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the law of God for
manmade law or human tradition.
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- Exactly.
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- So it's one of
the identifying marks.
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- You know, for the last
two people who've called in,
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we have a study guide that's
called Who Is the Antichrist,
00:17:53.20\00:17:55.90
and we encourage
them to request that.
00:17:55.90\00:17:57.94
We'll send it to them or
anyone listening for free.
00:17:57.94\00:18:00.41
- The free offer
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00:18:00.41\00:18:04.41
and you can ask
for that study guide.
00:18:04.41\00:18:05.78
It's simply called
Who Is the Antichrist.
00:18:05.78\00:18:08.08
It'll get into all of
the various Bible verses,
00:18:08.08\00:18:10.29
both here in II Thessalonians,
00:18:10.29\00:18:12.52
but also some of the prophecies
in Revelation and Daniel.
00:18:12.52\00:18:16.06
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00:18:16.06\00:18:19.39
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Next caller that we have
00:18:22.36\00:18:23.47
is Liola listening
from Massachusetts.
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Liola, welcome to the program!
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- [Liola] Good
evening, how are you?
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- Fine, thanks for
calling, and your question?
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- [Liola] My
question is more for my son.
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What does the Bible say
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about attending
prom or school dances?
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Is it allowed?
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- Yeah, well, that would of
course depend upon the nature
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of that particular
school and what they're doing.
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There are some Christian schools
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that will have graduation
galas that are probably
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innocent enough, and
a lot of young people
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revel in the idea of
dressing up a little bit
00:19:01.64\00:19:04.47
and getting
together with classmates,
00:19:04.47\00:19:06.91
and I think the social
interaction's important for kids
00:19:06.91\00:19:09.54
during that time in their life.
00:19:09.54\00:19:11.45
Then you could have some
schools that are pretty pagan
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where those things turn into
a pretty serious rock concert
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where things get out of
hand, and the folks are spiking
00:19:21.26\00:19:23.32
the punch, and the dancing
is pretty sexually suggestive.
00:19:23.32\00:19:28.36
So it would
really depend, Liola.
00:19:29.43\00:19:32.07
You would have to evaluate
the school on what their
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standards are and how
well things are chaperoned.
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The typical worldly dancing
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is not something I
picture Jesus doing.
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But I've actually
seen some Christian socials
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where they had these galas
where the kids got together,
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and they dressed up, and
it was all well-supervised,
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and they had a special meal,
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and it was a
memorable occasion for the kids.
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They all took pictures,
and they look at them for years
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and see how funny
they dressed back then.
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- That's right. (Jean laughs)
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All right, well,
thanks for your call.
00:20:01.96\00:20:03.03
We've got Jerry
listening in Texas.
00:20:03.03\00:20:04.63
Jerry, welcome to the program!
00:20:04.63\00:20:06.77
- [Jerry] Hey, pastors, hi.
00:20:06.77\00:20:08.20
I had just one additional
note, I've been to Doug's church
00:20:09.50\00:20:12.51
in Shiprock. - Oh, good!
00:20:12.51\00:20:14.48
- [Jerry] Anyway, my question,
00:20:14.48\00:20:15.91
(Jerry laughs) it was good.
00:20:15.91\00:20:16.88
We remember them.
00:20:16.88\00:20:18.48
My question, I want to
refer to Revelation 8:17,
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where it says there is silence
in heaven for one-half hour.
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- Now, there is no
verse 17 in Revelation eight.
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- [Jerry] 8:17, I thought.
00:20:33.33\00:20:35.40
I thought it was
8:17. - Eight, verse one,
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"silence in heaven
about the space of," yep.
00:20:37.03\00:20:38.63
- [Jerry] Oh,
eight verse one, okay.
00:20:38.63\00:20:40.37
- All right, so that's
what you wanna know about?
00:20:40.37\00:20:43.30
- [Jerry] The Holy
Spirit and our guardian angels
00:20:44.77\00:20:46.37
don't leave us until they
appear in the Second Coming
00:20:46.37\00:20:48.98
and they join Jesus,
'cause the guardian angels
00:20:48.98\00:20:52.55
are still with us
during the time of probation.
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- Right, well, it is true
that God has angels on the earth
00:20:55.68\00:20:59.49
watching over His people;
there's no doubt about that.
00:20:59.49\00:21:01.72
If they left us for a minute,
we'd be in a lot of trouble.
00:21:01.72\00:21:05.59
But Revelation's talking about
things going quiet in heaven,
00:21:05.59\00:21:09.80
and we believe that's
because heaven has been vacated.
00:21:09.80\00:21:13.90
Michael has stood up, judgment
is over, probation is closed,
00:21:13.90\00:21:17.71
and Christ and his
angels come to the earth.
00:21:17.71\00:21:21.28
The Bible says when Jesus
comes, all the holy angels
00:21:21.28\00:21:23.71
are with Him, and that would
include our guardian angels.
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But that's here on earth.
00:21:25.58\00:21:26.88
Heaven is now quiet
because it's been vacated
00:21:26.88\00:21:30.65
as they come to resurrect
and to retrieve the redeemed.
00:21:30.65\00:21:35.72
- And anyone who
might remain in heaven,
00:21:36.79\00:21:38.46
God the Father, or any
of the other angelic beings,
00:21:38.46\00:21:41.10
their focus is
gonna be what's happening
00:21:41.10\00:21:43.26
here on the earth,
'cause Christ is coming.
00:21:43.26\00:21:45.33
All the angels
are coming with Him.
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So when we read about this
half an hour, it's interesting,
00:21:46.80\00:21:49.70
Pastor Doug, what
is the half an hour?
00:21:49.70\00:21:52.41
I know we're talking
about prophetic time here.
00:21:52.41\00:21:54.58
- Yeah, well, you know, in
Bible prophecy, most scholars
00:21:54.58\00:21:58.68
agree that you apply a principle
where a day equals a year.
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For instance, when God
told the children of Israel,
00:22:02.98\00:22:06.52
for every day that the spies
looked at the Promised Land,
00:22:06.52\00:22:09.66
they will wander
a year for each day,
00:22:09.66\00:22:11.66
and it turned from
40 days to 40 years.
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It also says
that in Ezekiel 4:6.
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Jesus said, "Tell Herod
that I will teach and do cures
00:22:17.00\00:22:21.17
"and cast out
devils today, tomorrow,
00:22:21.17\00:22:24.17
"and the third day,
I will be perfected."
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Jesus did not
minister for three more days;
00:22:26.41\00:22:29.34
He ministered
for three more years.
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So even Jesus used that
principle in a prophecy.
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So if a day equals a
year in prophecy, and an hour
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is 1/24 of a day, then one
hour, using a day for a year,
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is 15 days, and half an
hour would be half of 15,
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which is seven,
because it says about the space
00:22:50.03\00:22:51.70
of half an hour. (Doug laughs)
00:22:51.70\00:22:53.10
So of course,
that's a great Bible number
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you find all through Revelation.
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There's more sevens
than any other number.
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This is the period
of time that passes
00:22:58.54\00:23:00.41
when there's
silence when Christ comes.
00:23:00.41\00:23:02.78
We don't know how
much time He spends coming
00:23:02.78\00:23:04.28
and how much time
He spends going back,
00:23:04.28\00:23:06.21
but at least they're
gone during that procession.
00:23:06.21\00:23:09.35
- Okay, you know, we
do have a study guide
00:23:09.35\00:23:10.82
that talks about the
Second Coming of Christ,
00:23:10.82\00:23:13.42
and it's called
Ultimate Deliverance.
00:23:13.42\00:23:15.12
We'll by happy to send this
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:23:15.12\00:23:17.99
The number to
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Masine, welcome to the program.
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- [Masine] Hello!
00:23:34.04\00:23:35.14
- Hi, thanks for calling.
00:23:35.14\00:23:36.58
- [Masine] Hi,
I'm a new Christian.
00:23:38.91\00:23:41.08
My question is, how do I
devote myself every morning,
00:23:41.08\00:23:46.15
put on the whole armor of
God, and ask for the Holy Spirit
00:23:47.62\00:23:50.93
to be with me throughout my day?
00:23:52.99\00:23:53.90
How do I do that?
00:23:53.90\00:23:55.66
- Great question, one
of the most important.
00:23:55.66\00:23:57.90
It's one thing when
we come to the Lord,
00:23:57.90\00:24:00.04
and anybody can do that by
turning to God and asking Him
00:24:00.04\00:24:04.17
to come into their
lives, repenting of their sins
00:24:04.17\00:24:06.41
and saying, "Lord,
I'm willing to follow You.
00:24:06.41\00:24:09.61
"I'll take up my
cross and I'll follow You."
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But what does it mean
00:24:10.95\00:24:12.01
when it says to die
daily, to deny yourself?
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Basically in your
devotions, there's three things
00:24:16.62\00:24:20.42
you do to stay
healthy as a Christian.
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You breathe, you
eat, and you exercise,
00:24:24.13\00:24:27.93
and then of course, you
do those things consistently.
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In the holy place of the temple,
00:24:30.77\00:24:32.37
there were three
articles of furniture.
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You've got the Holy of holies.
00:24:34.47\00:24:35.80
There's one thing in there;
that's the Ark of the Covenant.
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The holy place had the light,
it had the table of bread,
00:24:37.94\00:24:42.14
it had the altar of incense.
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The incense represents prayer.
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The Bible says
that in Revelation,
00:24:46.75\00:24:48.52
the incense is the
prayers of the saints.
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The bread
represented the Word of God.
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"Man doesn't
live by bread alone,"
00:24:53.89\00:24:55.42
Jesus said, "but by every word."
00:24:55.42\00:24:58.16
Then the light
represents witnessing.
00:24:58.16\00:25:03.20
Jesus said, "Let
your light so shine
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"that men may see your
good works and glorify God."
00:25:05.60\00:25:08.30
We wanna let our light shine.
00:25:08.30\00:25:10.04
And so, every day, we should
spend time, I do every morning,
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I read my Bible, I
get on my knees, I pray.
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Of course you pray all
through the day, but formally,
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talk to the Lord,
commit your way to the Lord,
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and then look for
opportunities to be His witness.
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Through the ups and
downs of live every day,
00:25:25.42\00:25:28.42
you have opportunities
to witness for the Lord.
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If you ask Him, the Holy Spirit
00:25:31.26\00:25:32.93
will give you
those opportunities.
00:25:32.93\00:25:34.30
You'll be tempted.
00:25:34.30\00:25:35.50
You'll have lots of
opportunity to deny yourself.
00:25:35.50\00:25:37.87
The Holy Spirit'll
say, "Don't say that,"
00:25:37.87\00:25:40.97
(Doug laughs) or
"You should say this,"
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or "Don't look at that,"
or "You should look at this."
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All through the day,
you've got, "Don't eat that,"
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or "Don't eat it
yet." (Doug laughs)
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So you've always got
the Holy Spirit guiding you.
00:25:51.58\00:25:54.82
And as you listen to
that and you're controlled
00:25:54.82\00:25:57.22
by the Spirit and not
by the flesh, you become
00:25:57.22\00:25:59.82
more like Christ, and that's
what it means to walk with God.
00:25:59.82\00:26:04.36
So that's a
quick overview, Masine.
00:26:04.36\00:26:06.96
I hope that helps a little bit.
00:26:06.96\00:26:09.20
You know, we have a study
guide I think you'd enjoy.
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It's the first in the series
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of the Amazing
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Is There Anything
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I think you'd appreciate that.
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- I also thought of another
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It's called The Armor of God.
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It's a little book
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How do we put on
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- My name is Jean Ross,
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and we're got Rita
listening from Indiana.
00:30:03.87\00:30:06.20
Rita, welcome to the program.
00:30:06.20\00:30:08.44
- [Rita] Thank you,
thank you for taking my call.
00:30:08.44\00:30:10.97
What I wanna know
is, it seems like,
00:30:12.11\00:30:15.94
I think it's in John
eight, there's a couple of times
00:30:15.94\00:30:18.61
where Jesus was
going to be stoned,
00:30:18.61\00:30:21.82
and He managed to
slip away from the crowd.
00:30:21.82\00:30:24.85
Then when He walked on
water to see the disciples,
00:30:26.52\00:30:30.43
they didn't
recognize Him at first.
00:30:30.43\00:30:33.76
They didn't recognize Him
00:30:33.76\00:30:35.06
until He told Peter to
come out and come to Him.
00:30:35.06\00:30:39.33
And then when He was at
Gethsemane, Judas had arranged
00:30:39.33\00:30:44.31
a signal with the people
that were coming to arrest Jesus
00:30:45.77\00:30:49.18
so they would
know who Jesus was.
00:30:49.18\00:30:52.21
Now, I don't understand
00:30:52.21\00:30:54.68
why no one could figure
out who He was or where He was.
00:30:54.68\00:30:58.75
If there was a crowd of people
that were gonna stone Him,
00:30:58.75\00:31:01.52
wouldn't you think
several of them would see Him
00:31:01.52\00:31:03.83
and say, "There He is, let's
get Him," or wouldn't you think
00:31:03.83\00:31:06.83
the disciples would
know Him on the water?
00:31:06.83\00:31:09.80
Wouldn't the people
that were gonna arrest Him,
00:31:09.80\00:31:12.87
I mean, everybody
knew who Jesus was by then.
00:31:12.87\00:31:15.84
But they had to
have a signal from Judas.
00:31:15.84\00:31:18.44
So I'm wondering, do we all
see Jesus in a different way?
00:31:18.44\00:31:22.84
Are you seeing a
blonde, blue-eyed Jesus,
00:31:22.84\00:31:25.75
and I'm seeing a
brown-haired, brown-eyed Jesus,
00:31:25.75\00:31:29.12
and we don't all recognize Him,
00:31:29.12\00:31:31.22
and that's why He can slip away?
00:31:31.22\00:31:33.46
- All right,
lemme jump in there.
00:31:33.46\00:31:35.56
(Doug laughs)
00:31:35.56\00:31:36.86
That's an interesting assortment
of stories you have there.
00:31:36.86\00:31:39.06
Now, when they were gonna stone
Jesus and he passed through
00:31:39.06\00:31:42.20
their midst,
there's times in the Bible
00:31:42.20\00:31:44.40
where Elisha blinded an
army so they could not see him.
00:31:44.40\00:31:47.87
So I think that God's angels
00:31:47.87\00:31:49.40
blinded the ones who
were going to stone Him.
00:31:49.40\00:31:53.24
So that's what happened,
I believe, in that case,
00:31:53.24\00:31:55.38
is that God just protected Him.
00:31:55.38\00:31:57.98
When the disciples did not
recognize Him on the water,
00:31:57.98\00:32:00.72
when He's walking on
the water, that's at night
00:32:00.72\00:32:02.72
during a storm, and maybe
in the flash of lightning,
00:32:02.72\00:32:05.99
they see this figure
walking towards them.
00:32:05.99\00:32:08.29
They didn't know
who it was at first.
00:32:08.29\00:32:10.53
Then He calls out through
the rain and the waves and says,
00:32:10.53\00:32:13.73
"It's Me," and Peter says,
00:32:13.73\00:32:14.83
"Lord, if it's you,
let me come to You."
00:32:14.83\00:32:16.33
That was just the
obscurity of the rain
00:32:16.33\00:32:18.20
and the storm and
the darkness, I think.
00:32:18.20\00:32:20.27
When He rose, or when
Judas went to arrest Him,
00:32:21.60\00:32:24.91
you're talking
about deep into the night.
00:32:24.91\00:32:27.68
They're in this garden.
00:32:27.68\00:32:28.74
They're coming with torches.
00:32:28.74\00:32:30.41
It is true, they had
no photographs back then,
00:32:30.41\00:32:32.91
and so, when they said
Jesus, wanted dead or alive,
00:32:32.91\00:32:36.52
they didn't have His picture
00:32:36.52\00:32:37.62
on telephone poles,
on a poster anywhere.
00:32:37.62\00:32:40.29
He looked like a normal person,
00:32:41.32\00:32:43.43
and that's why they said,
"Judas, you do recognize Him.
00:32:43.43\00:32:45.96
"You know what He looks like.
00:32:45.96\00:32:47.46
"You go up and
kiss Him on the cheek
00:32:47.46\00:32:49.36
"so we'll know
which one to arrest,"
00:32:49.36\00:32:51.27
because Christ often
traveled with His apostles,
00:32:51.27\00:32:53.60
and sometimes
additional disciples.
00:32:53.60\00:32:55.57
It says there was the
apostles and the women
00:32:55.57\00:32:57.21
that followed Him, so
Judas clearly knew who He was.
00:32:57.21\00:33:01.04
So I think that
Jesus did have a real form,
00:33:01.04\00:33:03.41
and everybody knew
what He looked like,
00:33:03.41\00:33:05.28
the ones who knew Him,
but not having photographs,
00:33:05.28\00:33:08.75
so much of what
they knew about Jesus
00:33:08.75\00:33:10.52
was through the
stories others were hearing.
00:33:10.52\00:33:12.79
Even Herod heard about Him,
and he said, "I wanna see Him."
00:33:14.12\00:33:16.59
So they didn't know
what He looked like.
00:33:16.59\00:33:18.83
- Perhaps another reason
why they had Judas lead them
00:33:18.83\00:33:20.86
to Jesus is Judas knew
where Jesus liked to go.
00:33:20.86\00:33:24.10
Of course, it was night.
00:33:24.10\00:33:25.30
Judas knew that Jesus would go
00:33:25.30\00:33:26.67
to the Garden of Gethsemane
up on the Mount of Olives,
00:33:26.67\00:33:29.24
and so he directed
them to where Jesus was.
00:33:29.24\00:33:31.74
- Yeah, and he said,
"It's the one that I kiss,"
00:33:31.74\00:33:33.91
because it's dark.
00:33:33.91\00:33:35.31
- There were
other disciples around.
00:33:35.31\00:33:37.01
- Yeah, and they
had beards. - That too.
00:33:37.01\00:33:39.58
- They all start
looking alike after a while.
00:33:39.58\00:33:40.95
(both laughing)
00:33:40.95\00:33:42.25
- All right, well,
thanks for your call, Rita.
00:33:42.25\00:33:43.32
We've never heard
that question before.
00:33:43.32\00:33:45.52
Isabel, listening from Arkansas.
00:33:45.52\00:33:47.89
Isabel, welcome to the program!
00:33:47.89\00:33:49.59
- [Isabel] My name is
Isabel, and my question is,
00:33:50.89\00:33:55.40
how do you know when
Jesus is speaking to you?
00:33:55.40\00:33:58.47
- Good question, Isabel!
00:33:59.40\00:34:00.67
Thank you for calling.
00:34:00.67\00:34:02.24
Well, Jesus does speak to
us when we read the Bible,
00:34:02.24\00:34:07.31
and some Bibles have got red
letters wherever Jesus speaks.
00:34:08.68\00:34:11.25
They call them
red-letter editions.
00:34:11.25\00:34:13.42
When you read
the words of Jesus,
00:34:13.42\00:34:14.98
that's the words of
Jesus speaking to you.
00:34:14.98\00:34:17.62
Sometimes God speaks to
you through His Holy Spirit.
00:34:17.62\00:34:21.49
You might be tempted to
say something you shouldn't say
00:34:21.49\00:34:25.83
or get angry or to
disobey your parents.
00:34:25.83\00:34:28.40
Well, that's the devil telling
you to do the wrong thing,
00:34:28.40\00:34:30.83
and then Jesus and
the Holy Spirit will say,
00:34:30.83\00:34:33.10
"No, I want you
to do the good thing.
00:34:33.10\00:34:34.77
"I want you to
do the right thing."
00:34:34.77\00:34:36.47
That would be the Lord speaking
to you through His Spirit.
00:34:36.47\00:34:39.67
Sometimes God even
speaks to you through pastors.
00:34:39.67\00:34:42.61
When you go to church and
they're preaching a sermon,
00:34:42.61\00:34:45.45
you'll hear the
Holy Spirit speak to you
00:34:45.45\00:34:47.22
through the
words that they share.
00:34:47.22\00:34:49.25
And so, very rarely, Jesus
does talk to a person audibly,
00:34:49.25\00:34:54.32
personally, like He did with
Moses and Abraham and Jacob.
00:34:56.93\00:35:01.96
- Samuel. -
Samuel, that's right.
00:35:03.30\00:35:05.60
So yeah, when Samuel
was just a little boy,
00:35:05.60\00:35:07.80
He said, "Samuel,
Samuel," He spoke to him.
00:35:07.80\00:35:10.47
But God's voice will
always follow the Bible.
00:35:12.31\00:35:15.21
That's one thing
you can be sure of.
00:35:15.21\00:35:16.85
Thank you,
Isabel, good question.
00:35:16.85\00:35:18.85
- The next caller that we have
00:35:18.85\00:35:19.91
is Henry
listening from New York.
00:35:19.91\00:35:21.38
Henry, you're on the air.
00:35:21.38\00:35:22.68
- Henry, are you there?
00:35:26.02\00:35:26.99
You might have your phone muted.
00:35:26.99\00:35:28.66
- [Henry] Hello?
00:35:29.82\00:35:30.66
- Hi, and your question?
00:35:30.66\00:35:32.69
- [Henry] Yeah, my
question is, Moses and Abraham,
00:35:34.00\00:35:34.56
is there anybody living
today who is related to them?
00:35:38.73\00:35:43.81
- Is there anyone living today
related to Moses or Abraham?
00:35:46.04\00:35:48.64
Good question.
00:35:48.64\00:35:49.61
You know, the genealogy of Moses
00:35:50.41\00:35:53.45
is not as clear as
the genealogy of Abraham,
00:35:53.45\00:35:56.52
who of course is
an ancestor of Moses.
00:35:56.52\00:35:59.29
Moses had two sons.
00:35:59.29\00:36:01.56
They don't ever seem
to rise to prominence.
00:36:01.56\00:36:04.63
They were from
the tribe of Levi.
00:36:04.63\00:36:06.86
It was not Moses's
sons, but the sons of Aaron,
00:36:06.86\00:36:09.46
his brother, that ended
up being the high priest.
00:36:09.46\00:36:12.20
So the sons of Moses, some
of 'em worked in the temple
00:36:12.20\00:36:14.67
with the other Levites,
but they're not mentioned,
00:36:14.67\00:36:16.64
and it's hard to track
the family tree of Moses.
00:36:16.64\00:36:19.47
Abraham, on the other hand,
you can see the descendants
00:36:19.47\00:36:22.38
of Abraham around the world,
not only in the nation of Jews,
00:36:22.38\00:36:27.45
but you can see in
the children of Ishmael.
00:36:28.55\00:36:31.45
Many of them
became what you call
00:36:31.45\00:36:34.46
your Semitic peoples and Arabs.
00:36:34.46\00:36:37.43
Of course, not
all Muslims are Arabs.
00:36:37.43\00:36:39.13
I think the largest
group of Muslims in the world
00:36:39.13\00:36:41.60
are Indonesia,
'cause Islam is a religion.
00:36:41.60\00:36:44.57
But most Arabs can
trace their genealogy
00:36:44.57\00:36:47.30
back to Abraham also.
00:36:47.30\00:36:49.60
Thank you,
appreciate your question, Henry!
00:36:49.60\00:36:51.81
- We've got Thomas
listening in Oklahoma.
00:36:51.81\00:36:53.74
Thomas, you're on the air!
00:36:53.74\00:36:54.94
Welcome to Bible Answers Live.
00:36:54.94\00:36:57.31
- [Thomas] Yeah, I got a
question for Revelation 14:12,
00:36:57.31\00:37:00.82
and specifically in the
last sentence of the verse,
00:37:02.15\00:37:06.42
"and the faith of Jesus."
00:37:07.79\00:37:10.99
So what's it mean, those?
00:37:10.99\00:37:13.16
- All right, lemme
read this for our friends.
00:37:14.23\00:37:15.33
It says here,
speaking in Revelation 14:12,
00:37:15.33\00:37:18.20
"Here is the
patience of the saints;
00:37:19.20\00:37:20.44
"here are those that keep
00:37:20.44\00:37:21.57
"the commandments of
God and the faith of Jesus."
00:37:21.57\00:37:25.27
Now, it's not saying
"faith in Jesus" here.
00:37:25.27\00:37:27.94
It's saying the
"faith of Jesus."
00:37:27.94\00:37:30.51
And so, they are
modeling in their lives
00:37:30.51\00:37:33.62
the faith that Jesus
demonstrated when he was on
00:37:33.62\00:37:37.29
earth. So Jesus said,
"I live by the Father."
00:37:37.29\00:37:39.62
Well, we follow His example,
and we live by faith in Christ
00:37:39.62\00:37:43.06
as He lived by
faith in the Father.
00:37:43.06\00:37:45.49
So they have the same
kind of faith as Jesus.
00:37:45.49\00:37:47.96
Is that your understanding?
- Yeah, absolutely.
00:37:47.96\00:37:49.26
You know, I heard
somebody once put it this way.
00:37:49.26\00:37:50.70
They said, "Faith
in Jesus saves you,
00:37:50.70\00:37:53.30
"but the faith of
Jesus sustains you.
00:37:53.30\00:37:56.10
"It gives you
strength to overcome,
00:37:56.10\00:37:57.84
"to live a victorious life."
00:37:57.84\00:37:59.61
And of course, the context
here in Revelation chapter 14,
00:37:59.61\00:38:02.04
it's talking about
God's people in the last days.
00:38:02.04\00:38:04.45
They need to have
the faith of Jesus.
00:38:04.45\00:38:06.15
- And they're being contrasted
with counterfeit Christians.
00:38:06.15\00:38:09.78
So the faith of Jesus not
only sustains; it identifies.
00:38:09.78\00:38:14.36
You got the kind
of faith Jesus had.
00:38:14.36\00:38:16.36
- Yeah, very good.
00:38:16.36\00:38:17.63
All right, thank you
for your call, Thomas.
00:38:17.63\00:38:18.96
We've got Alex
listening in Georgia.
00:38:18.96\00:38:20.83
Alex, welcome to the program.
00:38:20.83\00:38:22.30
- [Alex] Hey, how are you?
00:38:23.47\00:38:24.60
Thank you,
pastors, for taking my call.
00:38:24.60\00:38:26.17
- Yes, thanks for calling.
00:38:26.17\00:38:27.57
- [Alex] My question
is, when Adam and Eve
00:38:28.67\00:38:31.27
were in the garden, which
commandments did they break?
00:38:31.27\00:38:34.18
- Yeah, well, the Lord
gave a specific commandment
00:38:35.61\00:38:38.38
earlier in Genesis chapter two.
00:38:38.38\00:38:41.25
He told them that
they were free to eat
00:38:41.25\00:38:43.72
from any of the trees,
any and all of the trees
00:38:43.72\00:38:46.55
in the garden,
with one exception.
00:38:46.55\00:38:49.39
There was one tree that
would be a test of loyalty.
00:38:49.39\00:38:51.83
He said, "Do not
eat from the tree
00:38:51.83\00:38:53.50
"in the middle of the
garden of good and evil.
00:38:53.50\00:38:55.33
"I don't want you
to experience evil."
00:38:55.33\00:38:57.70
They were to eat
from the tree of life
00:38:57.70\00:38:59.10
and every other
pleasant thing in the garden.
00:38:59.10\00:39:01.57
And so, when the serpent,
00:39:01.57\00:39:04.57
the devil kinda took
possession of the serpent,
00:39:04.57\00:39:07.28
and the devil said
through the serpent,
00:39:07.28\00:39:09.98
"Oh, you can't really trust God.
00:39:09.98\00:39:11.38
"He's trying to
keep something from you.
00:39:11.38\00:39:13.21
"If you'd eat from
this forbidden tree,
00:39:13.21\00:39:15.58
"you'd have special powers.
00:39:15.58\00:39:16.58
"You'd be like gods.
00:39:16.58\00:39:17.69
"Look at me!
00:39:17.69\00:39:19.02
"I was a serpent,
and now I can talk."
00:39:19.02\00:39:20.26
I'm paraphrasing.
00:39:20.26\00:39:21.82
And he cast doubt on God,
00:39:21.82\00:39:25.49
and they chose to listen
to the devil instead of God.
00:39:25.49\00:39:27.96
They broke the
commandment where God said,
00:39:27.96\00:39:30.23
"Do not eat from
the forbidden tree."
00:39:30.23\00:39:32.70
They did; God said the penalty
was death for disobedience.
00:39:32.70\00:39:36.87
- And even if you wanna
get a little more specific,
00:39:36.87\00:39:39.41
looking at the Ten Commandments,
00:39:39.41\00:39:40.78
the 10th commandment
says "Thou shall not covet."
00:39:40.78\00:39:43.41
The Bible says,
"Eve looked at the tree.
00:39:43.41\00:39:45.48
"She desired the
fruit to make one wise.
00:39:45.48\00:39:48.52
"She took of it."
00:39:48.52\00:39:49.48
So the first
commandment that she broke
00:39:49.48\00:39:51.75
was the coveting one.
00:39:51.75\00:39:53.12
She wanted something that
God had said, "It's not yours."
00:39:53.12\00:39:55.59
She took
something that was not hers.
00:39:55.59\00:39:57.16
- That's stealing,
too. - Thou shall not steal.
00:39:57.16\00:39:58.93
She gave it to her
husband, thou shall not kill.
00:39:58.93\00:40:01.60
(both laughing)
00:40:01.60\00:40:02.66
You could probably,
you know, you don't want
00:40:02.66\00:40:04.03
any other gods ahead of
you, and she chose to put
00:40:04.03\00:40:06.17
what the serpent was saying
ahead of what God was saying.
00:40:06.17\00:40:08.40
So if you look at it like
the Bible says, if you break
00:40:08.40\00:40:11.41
one commandment, you're
guilty of breaking all of them,
00:40:11.41\00:40:14.51
at least the spirit
of all the commandments,
00:40:14.51\00:40:17.31
so yes, the Ten Commandments
were broken in the garden.
00:40:17.31\00:40:19.65
- Yep, good question, Alex.
00:40:19.65\00:40:20.95
Hey, thank you so
much for your call,
00:40:20.95\00:40:22.18
and we hope you call back.
00:40:22.18\00:40:23.45
- We've got Michael
listening in Michigan.
00:40:23.45\00:40:24.89
Michael, welcome to the program.
00:40:24.89\00:40:26.55
- [Michael] Good
evening, pastors.
00:40:27.99\00:40:29.72
- Evening.
00:40:29.72\00:40:30.53
- [Michael] I got a question.
00:40:30.53\00:40:31.79
My wife and I are
studying Revelations 12:1.
00:40:31.79\00:40:34.73
It's the woman
clothed with the sun,
00:40:34.73\00:40:38.17
and the moon is under her feet.
00:40:38.17\00:40:40.20
What is the garland of 12 stars?
00:40:40.20\00:40:43.84
- Great, I like that.
00:40:43.84\00:40:45.24
We've had several
Revelation questions tonight,
00:40:45.24\00:40:46.71
and we love it.
00:40:46.71\00:40:47.51
In Revelation 12,
you've got a picture.
00:40:48.68\00:40:50.55
First, let's figure
out, who is this woman,
00:40:50.55\00:40:52.25
and then it helps
everything else become clear.
00:40:52.25\00:40:54.78
The Bible tells
us in Bible symbols
00:40:54.78\00:40:56.99
that a woman
represents a church.
00:40:56.99\00:41:00.06
Revelation has two women.
00:41:00.06\00:41:01.32
One is clothed with light.
00:41:01.32\00:41:03.26
The sun, moon, and stars
are lights that God made.
00:41:03.26\00:41:05.63
The other is clothed with
kind of artificial adornment,
00:41:05.63\00:41:08.30
gold and pearls and purple
and scarlet and costly array.
00:41:08.30\00:41:12.80
But one is a true,
faithful bride of Christ.
00:41:12.80\00:41:17.01
The Bible says, "Husbands,
00:41:17.01\00:41:18.31
"love your wives as
Christ loved the church."
00:41:18.31\00:41:21.48
God says, "I've
likened the daughter of Zion
00:41:21.48\00:41:24.25
"to a delicate
and comely woman."
00:41:24.25\00:41:26.01
Zion was a word
for God's Church.
00:41:26.01\00:41:27.52
"I've likened the
Church to a woman."
00:41:27.52\00:41:29.48
In Hosea, He says the
Church is like His bride.
00:41:29.48\00:41:32.02
So this is a picture
of God's pure, true church
00:41:32.02\00:41:35.69
standing on the sun, and Jesus
is the sun of righteousness
00:41:35.69\00:41:40.23
that arises with
healing in His wings,
00:41:40.23\00:41:42.06
you find in
Malachi chapter four.
00:41:42.06\00:41:44.20
Clothed with the moon.
00:41:44.20\00:41:45.47
She's standing on the
promises and prophecies
00:41:45.47\00:41:47.37
of the Old
Testament as the foundation
00:41:47.37\00:41:49.47
for the New
Testament, but she's clothed,
00:41:49.47\00:41:51.77
shining, with the light
of Christ's righteousness
00:41:51.77\00:41:54.74
in the New Testament.
00:41:54.74\00:41:56.14
12 stars above the
head: above the head
00:41:56.14\00:41:57.91
represents authority,
and you've got the 12 tribes
00:41:57.91\00:42:01.98
and 12 judges in the
Old Testament, 12 apostles.
00:42:01.98\00:42:05.05
That's talking
about the leadership.
00:42:05.05\00:42:07.29
Revelation chapter, is it
one, he talked about, the stars
00:42:07.29\00:42:10.29
represent the angels.
- Of the seven churches.
00:42:10.29\00:42:13.63
- Yeah, they're the
spokesmen, the leaders.
00:42:13.63\00:42:15.90
And so, you've got
the 12 above her head
00:42:15.90\00:42:17.90
represents the
leadership of the church.
00:42:17.90\00:42:20.90
But more than anything,
it's the light of truth.
00:42:20.90\00:42:23.17
The sun, the moon,
and the stars, you know,
00:42:23.17\00:42:25.54
the Word is a lamp
to my feet and a light.
00:42:25.54\00:42:27.74
It's saying this
woman is clothed with light.
00:42:27.74\00:42:30.51
So yeah, it's just a picture
of the glory of God's Church.
00:42:30.51\00:42:35.32
- You know, we've got a
study guide that's called
00:42:35.32\00:42:36.35
The Bride of
Christ. - Oh, perfect.
00:42:36.35\00:42:37.99
- And I think it actually deals
with Revelation chapter 12.
00:42:37.99\00:42:40.16
We'll be happy to send this
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:42:40.16\00:42:42.52
The number
again is 800-835-6747.
00:42:42.52\00:42:46.96
That is our free resource line,
00:42:46.96\00:42:49.33
and just ask
for the study guide.
00:42:49.33\00:42:50.87
It's called The Bride of
Christ, and we'll be happy
00:42:50.87\00:42:52.40
to send that to
anyone who calls and asks.
00:42:52.40\00:42:55.24
Next caller that
we have is Kereace
00:42:55.24\00:42:57.44
listening from Washington.
00:42:57.44\00:42:59.14
Kereace, welcome to the program.
00:42:59.14\00:43:01.41
- [Kereace] Hello, good night,
thank you for taking my call.
00:43:01.41\00:43:03.75
I just got a with from I
John chapter five verse 16.
00:43:03.75\00:43:08.82
Could you please
explain that passage for me?
00:43:09.88\00:43:12.25
- Yeah, well, lemme
read it for everybody.
00:43:12.25\00:43:14.46
It says, and this is
I John five verse 16,
00:43:14.46\00:43:17.19
"If anyone sees his
brother sinning a sin
00:43:17.19\00:43:20.40
"that does not lead
to death, he will ask,
00:43:20.40\00:43:22.83
"and he will this
verse him life for those
00:43:22.83\00:43:24.37
"who commit sin
not leading to death."
00:43:24.37\00:43:26.33
Right there, it's
telling us of course
00:43:26.33\00:43:27.80
that we can
intercede and pray for people.
00:43:27.80\00:43:30.51
But then he goes on and he
says, "There is a sin leading
00:43:30.51\00:43:33.58
"to death, and I do not
say he should pray about that."
00:43:33.58\00:43:37.28
Now, you would think, well,
shouldn't we pray for everybody?
00:43:37.28\00:43:40.18
Well, you know, intercessory
prayer in this respect
00:43:40.18\00:43:44.19
is more effective for
people that are willing.
00:43:44.19\00:43:47.02
You've got a sin
that leads to death
00:43:47.02\00:43:49.02
that prayer won't even
help, and that would be
00:43:49.02\00:43:51.23
the sin against the Holy
Spirit, an unpardonable sin.
00:43:51.23\00:43:54.93
- I think also when
it talks about a sin
00:43:54.93\00:43:56.60
not leading to death, I
think it's also talking about
00:43:56.60\00:43:58.73
praying for those who
might be sinning ignorantly.
00:43:58.73\00:44:01.64
So Jesus prayed on the
cross, "Father, forgive them,
00:44:01.64\00:44:04.67
"for they do not
know what they are doing."
00:44:04.67\00:44:06.54
That's referring
to the Roman soldiers.
00:44:06.54\00:44:08.04
They're probably just
carrying out their orders.
00:44:08.04\00:44:10.25
And so, they are people
that have never heard the truth,
00:44:10.25\00:44:12.35
and they might not
be doing what is right,
00:44:12.35\00:44:14.18
but maybe they don't know.
00:44:14.18\00:44:15.45
Maybe they are
sinning in ignorance.
00:44:15.45\00:44:17.49
But there are those who
have hardened their heart,
00:44:17.49\00:44:20.06
as you said, that sin
that cannot be forgiven,
00:44:20.06\00:44:22.72
which is the unpardonable sin,
00:44:22.72\00:44:24.43
and they are sinning willfully.
00:44:25.23\00:44:27.13
We wanna pray for everyone,
but there is a difference.
00:44:28.50\00:44:31.10
There is sins of ignorance,
and then there's deliberate,
00:44:31.10\00:44:34.17
high-handed
rebellion against God.
00:44:34.17\00:44:36.14
- That's right.
00:44:37.27\00:44:38.61
So I hope that helps a
little bit, Kereace, yes.
00:44:38.61\00:44:41.84
- All right,
thanks for your call!
00:44:41.84\00:44:42.98
We've got Anastasia
listening in Canada.
00:44:42.98\00:44:46.48
Anastasia,
welcome to the program!
00:44:46.48\00:44:48.98
- [Anastasia] Hello!
00:44:48.98\00:44:50.09
- Hi, how can we
help you tonight?
00:44:50.09\00:44:51.55
- [Anastasia] Hi
Pastor Doug, hi Pastor Ross.
00:44:51.55\00:44:54.22
I actually had two
very quick questions,
00:44:54.22\00:44:55.86
if you can answer them both.
00:44:55.86\00:44:57.83
So, my first one
is, in the Bible,
00:44:57.83\00:45:01.36
it says that love
casts out all fear, right?
00:45:01.36\00:45:04.83
But if you're a
person living with OCD,
00:45:04.83\00:45:07.70
and let's just say, for me,
I would have to wash my hands
00:45:07.70\00:45:11.41
and everything like that
because I'm scared of germs,
00:45:11.41\00:45:14.24
am I not going with
God's law by doing that?
00:45:14.24\00:45:17.48
- No, well, lemme answer you
00:45:18.85\00:45:21.95
with something more
than just a yes or a no.
00:45:21.95\00:45:24.22
I empathize with
you a little bit,
00:45:25.79\00:45:27.96
because I am a little OCD.
00:45:27.96\00:45:30.39
Now, I don't wanna trivialize
what you're going through,
00:45:30.39\00:45:32.19
because some people
are just obsessively
00:45:32.19\00:45:34.36
washing their hands.
00:45:34.36\00:45:35.90
But if you ask my wife, I'm
a little compulsive that way,
00:45:35.90\00:45:40.17
where yeah, I go around
through the day washing my hands
00:45:40.17\00:45:42.87
probably 20 times
a day. (Doug laughs)
00:45:42.87\00:45:45.21
It's not that
I'm afraid of germs.
00:45:45.21\00:45:46.98
I mean, you
know me, Pastor Ross.
00:45:46.98\00:45:48.71
I'm not obsessed with germs.
00:45:48.71\00:45:50.58
- Pastor Doug likes
clean. - Yeah, I am a clean guy.
00:45:52.31\00:45:53.72
- If you drive in his car,
00:45:53.72\00:45:55.48
it's always clean. (Jean laughs)
00:45:55.48\00:45:57.29
- I am a little that way,
yes, so I get a little bit
00:45:57.29\00:46:00.99
agitated if things
aren't in the right place.
00:46:00.99\00:46:03.32
But you're
asking a bigger question
00:46:05.09\00:46:06.70
about anxiety and
fear, am I right, Anastasia?
00:46:06.70\00:46:11.20
- [Anastasia] Yeah.
00:46:11.97\00:46:13.23
- And you're just
wondering, does it mean I have
00:46:13.23\00:46:14.60
a lack of faith, that I'm
worrying about these things?
00:46:14.60\00:46:17.71
Well, no, because I think that
00:46:17.71\00:46:19.94
you're addressing something
that you can't control.
00:46:19.94\00:46:22.64
You're trying not to
feel that way, right?
00:46:22.64\00:46:25.51
- [Anastasia] Right, yes, yeah.
00:46:25.51\00:46:26.61
- Yeah, so you know,
I expect you're trying
00:46:26.61\00:46:30.85
to maybe get some
Christian counsel on the subject
00:46:30.85\00:46:33.82
so that you can get some relief.
00:46:33.82\00:46:36.16
I wrote a book that you
might find some comfort in.
00:46:37.49\00:46:41.46
It's called Finding
Peace in a World of Worry.
00:46:41.46\00:46:44.50
I partly wrote this
because I can sometimes have
00:46:45.77\00:46:47.60
a tendency to worry,
and I know a lot of people
00:46:47.60\00:46:49.90
that are just sick with worry.
00:46:49.90\00:46:51.24
And I found a lot of
comfort in just writing the book
00:46:51.24\00:46:53.34
and looking at
all the scriptures
00:46:53.34\00:46:54.51
and the promises about worry.
00:46:54.51\00:46:56.28
- We live in a world, Pastor
Doug, that is just a mess.
00:46:58.01\00:47:00.75
Just look at the news, and
yeah, it causes alarm and worry.
00:47:00.75\00:47:04.19
- And with the news in
the last two years about germs
00:47:04.19\00:47:06.59
and COVID everywhere,
that could make some people
00:47:06.59\00:47:08.76
a little bit
apprehensive. - Absolutely.
00:47:08.76\00:47:10.36
- And just wash
your hands all the time.
00:47:10.36\00:47:12.46
So I wouldn't call it a sin.
00:47:12.46\00:47:14.30
I'd pray that God
would just give you
00:47:14.30\00:47:15.80
some peace and balance.
00:47:15.80\00:47:18.00
You know, I think
God wants us to be clean,
00:47:18.00\00:47:19.63
but He doesn't
want us to be obsessive
00:47:19.63\00:47:21.10
so that you just
can't live your life,
00:47:21.10\00:47:22.74
'cause you're always
having to run for sanitizer.
00:47:22.74\00:47:25.47
It's amazing any of
us survived childhood,
00:47:27.08\00:47:29.08
eating six pounds
of dirt every year.
00:47:29.08\00:47:31.98
(Jean laughs)
00:47:31.98\00:47:33.31
But anyway, so you
might enjoy that book.
00:47:33.31\00:47:34.98
You can call and ask for Finding
Peace in a World of Worry,
00:47:34.98\00:47:37.72
and I'll bet they'll
send you a copy for free.
00:47:37.72\00:47:40.36
- The number to call is
800-835-6747, and again,
00:47:40.36\00:47:43.73
the book's called Finding
Peace in a World of Worry.
00:47:43.73\00:47:46.66
We've got Chris
listening in North Carolina.
00:47:46.66\00:47:48.63
Chris, welcome to the program!
00:47:48.63\00:47:51.57
- [Chris] Good
evening, pastors, how are you?
00:47:51.57\00:47:53.17
- Doing great. - Good.
00:47:53.17\00:47:54.37
- [Chris] Wonderful, I was
just a real quick question.
00:47:55.74\00:47:58.21
I know during creation,
during the time of Adam and Eve,
00:47:58.21\00:48:01.94
that there was a
war that broke out
00:48:03.04\00:48:04.98
in heaven between
Lucifer and Michael.
00:48:04.98\00:48:07.35
But how long, or
what period of time
00:48:07.35\00:48:10.29
was Satan on
earth during that time?
00:48:10.29\00:48:13.79
- Well, we don't
believe that Satan came to earth
00:48:15.09\00:48:17.63
until of course after
the creation of Adam and Eve,
00:48:17.63\00:48:19.79
which happened
after the rebellion.
00:48:19.79\00:48:22.66
We believe,
you're not gonna find
00:48:22.66\00:48:25.17
a lot of explicit scriptures
on the time table for this,
00:48:25.17\00:48:28.24
but we did a lot of
study on the subject
00:48:28.24\00:48:30.81
before we did a
special documentary
00:48:30.81\00:48:33.64
called Cosmic
Conflict: The Origin of Sin.
00:48:33.64\00:48:36.51
And by the way,
that documentary,
00:48:36.51\00:48:38.55
you can just see it on YouTube
now, called Cosmic Conflict.
00:48:38.55\00:48:41.55
We understand that one of
the reasons God made our world
00:48:42.88\00:48:45.32
and humanity is to
help replace the vacuum
00:48:45.32\00:48:48.79
from Satan and his
angels being cast out
00:48:48.79\00:48:50.76
following their
rebellion and that war.
00:48:50.76\00:48:53.13
You read about the war
there in Revelation 12.
00:48:53.13\00:48:56.23
Revelation 12 of
course is looking back in time
00:48:56.23\00:48:59.50
to the war between
Michael and Satan, the devil.
00:48:59.50\00:49:02.87
So am I answering
your question, Chris?
00:49:02.87\00:49:05.37
- [Chris] Yes, kind of, yes.
00:49:06.61\00:49:07.91
I just was wondering how
long he was, when he was cast
00:49:07.91\00:49:10.41
down to earth, what period
of time he was down here for,
00:49:10.41\00:49:14.75
because we know after
Adam and Eve were created,
00:49:14.75\00:49:18.09
that the devil
was cast to earth.
00:49:18.09\00:49:20.62
- Yeah, and he's still here.
00:49:20.62\00:49:22.72
Yeah, he's alive
and well, as they say.
00:49:22.72\00:49:26.66
- You know, just to add to
that a little bit, Pastor Doug,
00:49:26.66\00:49:29.13
in chapter 12 it talks
about this war in heaven,
00:49:29.13\00:49:31.47
Michael and his
angels are cast out.
00:49:31.47\00:49:33.27
So you have a casting out,
00:49:33.27\00:49:35.20
no, Michael and his angels
fought against the dragon,
00:49:35.20\00:49:37.11
and the dragon and
his angels were cast out.
00:49:37.11\00:49:39.44
So before the
creation of the earth,
00:49:39.44\00:49:41.38
there's this war in heaven.
00:49:41.38\00:49:42.51
The devil and his angels rebel,
00:49:42.51\00:49:43.85
and of course they
are cast out of heaven.
00:49:43.85\00:49:45.91
But you read a little further
in Revelation chapter 12,
00:49:45.91\00:49:48.25
and it says at some point,
the devil was cast to the earth.
00:49:48.25\00:49:51.65
- He was cast down then. - Yeah,
00:49:52.89\00:49:54.26
so there's a casting out,
and then there's a casting down.
00:49:54.26\00:49:57.36
So the casting
out and casting down
00:49:57.36\00:49:59.63
didn't happen at the same time,
00:49:59.63\00:50:00.96
but when Christ died on the
cross, Satan's doom was fixed,
00:50:00.96\00:50:04.70
and Jesus became the
representative of the earth.
00:50:04.70\00:50:06.87
He is the Second Adam.
00:50:06.87\00:50:08.64
So the Bible says the
devil has but a short time.
00:50:08.64\00:50:11.07
He's going around
like a roaring lion.
00:50:11.07\00:50:12.54
So he is sort of
bound to this earth.
00:50:12.54\00:50:15.08
He doesn't have
freedom to roam the universe.
00:50:15.08\00:50:17.35
Then after the 1,000,
or doing the 1,000 years,
00:50:17.35\00:50:20.48
it's just him and
his angels on the earth.
00:50:20.48\00:50:22.28
They've got nobody to tempt, so.
00:50:22.28\00:50:24.02
- And Jesus said, "I beheld
Satan cast down as lightning."
00:50:24.02\00:50:27.52
- Yeah, falling as
lightning from heaven.
00:50:27.52\00:50:29.49
- So he helped effect that.
00:50:29.49\00:50:31.23
- Next caller that we have
is Dalton listening in Texas.
00:50:31.23\00:50:33.96
Dalton, welcome to the program.
00:50:33.96\00:50:35.63
- [Dalton] Well,
hello, and thank you all
00:50:36.93\00:50:38.43
for having such a good program.
00:50:38.43\00:50:40.27
- Well, it's a
pleasure, thank you.
00:50:40.27\00:50:42.40
- [Dalton] Yes, my question
is, and I hate to ask it,
00:50:42.40\00:50:45.81
it's about the Book of Enoch.
00:50:45.81\00:50:47.74
Why don't we use it, or
why don't we reference it?
00:50:51.45\00:50:54.12
- That's a fair question,
because in the Book of Jude,
00:50:54.12\00:50:56.85
which is in the
Bible, Jude quotes
00:50:56.85\00:51:00.09
from the Book of Enoch,
which is not in the Bible.
00:51:00.09\00:51:03.56
And because a Bible
writer quotes from a book
00:51:03.56\00:51:08.23
does not mean that
everything in the book
00:51:08.23\00:51:10.00
they quoted from is
original or inspired.
00:51:10.00\00:51:13.67
For example, Paul quotes
from some of the Greek poets.
00:51:13.67\00:51:18.67
They said some
things that were true,
00:51:19.71\00:51:20.81
and he quotes
from those excerpts.
00:51:20.81\00:51:22.71
Well, there was a book
00:51:22.71\00:51:24.08
called the Book of Enoch
that was probably written
00:51:24.08\00:51:25.35
during the Babylonian
captivity by some of the Jews,
00:51:25.35\00:51:28.42
and it's what they
call an apocryphal book.
00:51:28.42\00:51:30.92
It had some statements in it
that were inspired statements,
00:51:30.92\00:51:34.92
but the whole book
wasn't necessarily inspired.
00:51:34.92\00:51:37.33
Many times, pastors, I
do it, I'm sure you do it,
00:51:38.69\00:51:41.46
I might quote Martin Luther,
00:51:41.46\00:51:43.06
quote Spurgeon or Wesley
or other great preachers.
00:51:43.06\00:51:46.50
There's certain things they
said that are very profound,
00:51:46.50\00:51:49.20
maybe even inspired, but
there's some things Luther said
00:51:49.20\00:51:53.11
I know were not
inspired. (Doug laughs)
00:51:53.11\00:51:55.34
I mean, Luther said
some pretty harsh things
00:51:55.34\00:51:57.41
about the Jewish people,
and I think most Christians
00:51:57.41\00:52:01.62
disavow themselves of
those things that he said.
00:52:01.62\00:52:05.05
So, but that wouldn't
undermine or take away from
00:52:05.05\00:52:09.16
the inspired things that he
did say and how God used him.
00:52:09.16\00:52:13.13
And so, same thing
with the Book of Enoch.
00:52:13.13\00:52:15.66
Anyone can download a
copy of the Book of Enoch.
00:52:15.66\00:52:17.60
You can read it, and you'll
see there's some stuff in there
00:52:17.60\00:52:19.47
that's obviously not scriptural.
00:52:19.47\00:52:22.44
But it was probably written
by a Jew or a couple of Jews
00:52:22.44\00:52:25.51
during the Babylonian captivity.
00:52:25.51\00:52:26.88
It did not come with Noah
across the flood from Enoch.
00:52:26.88\00:52:30.81
It's never
mentioned anywhere in history
00:52:30.81\00:52:33.68
prior to the time after
the Babylonian captivity.
00:52:33.68\00:52:36.58
- All right, great, I
think our next caller is Hector,
00:52:37.95\00:52:40.19
listening from Florida.
00:52:40.19\00:52:41.92
Hector, welcome to the program!
00:52:41.92\00:52:43.93
- [Hector] Yes, thank
you, good evening, everyone.
00:52:43.93\00:52:46.49
- How did you
survive the hurricane?
00:52:46.49\00:52:48.33
(Hector laughs)
00:52:49.30\00:52:50.33
Are you in southern Florida?
00:52:50.33\00:52:51.77
- [Hector] No, I'm
in a different area,
00:52:51.77\00:52:54.47
so we didn't have too much.
00:52:54.47\00:52:57.47
- Okay, Praise the Lord.
00:52:57.47\00:52:59.01
- [Hector] We just had
some gusty winds and that's it.
00:52:59.01\00:53:02.78
I have a question on
chapter 22 of Revelation,
00:53:04.08\00:53:09.08
specifically in
verse two and 15.
00:53:11.42\00:53:15.06
- Okay, lemme read this.
00:53:16.76\00:53:18.19
It says,
Revelation 22 verse two,
00:53:18.19\00:53:21.86
"In the middle of the street
and on either side of the river
00:53:21.86\00:53:24.27
"was the tree of life that
had 12 different kinds of fruit,
00:53:24.27\00:53:27.70
"each tree yielding its fruit
every month, and the leaves
00:53:27.70\00:53:30.57
"of the tree are for
the healing of the nations."
00:53:30.57\00:53:32.97
So you wanna do that first?
00:53:32.97\00:53:35.08
- [Hector] Right, let's do that.
00:53:36.01\00:53:38.15
My question specifically
is in the last sentence,
00:53:38.15\00:53:42.65
and it says, "The
leaves of the tree
00:53:42.65\00:53:45.79
"are well for the
healing of the nation."
00:53:46.82\00:53:49.22
And when you know the
kingdom of God won't have pain
00:53:49.22\00:53:53.29
and sickness and
disease and stuff, okay, that,
00:53:54.36\00:53:56.73
and also,
everybody will be one nation,
00:53:57.97\00:54:01.87
but now in this verse, it
mentions nations, in plural.
00:54:01.87\00:54:06.24
We'll be multiple
nations, you know?
00:54:06.24\00:54:09.08
- All right, well,
we're gonna run out of time,
00:54:09.08\00:54:10.88
so lemme answer that real quick.
00:54:10.88\00:54:12.55
You notice, it's not talking
about the healing of diseases.
00:54:13.92\00:54:17.02
It's the healing of nations.
00:54:17.02\00:54:19.12
We are divided now in the
world by political parties
00:54:19.12\00:54:23.02
and nations and
cultures and geography.
00:54:23.02\00:54:25.76
In the kingdom, all
those divisions will be healed.
00:54:25.76\00:54:28.53
As we gather under
the shimmering leaves
00:54:28.53\00:54:30.50
of the tree of life, we
will all be part of one people
00:54:30.50\00:54:33.90
and won't have to worry.
00:54:33.90\00:54:35.20
Hey, I'm sorry I can't give you
00:54:35.20\00:54:36.34
more of an answer
than that, Dalton.
00:54:36.34\00:54:38.21
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Pastor Doug, we're gonna
see how many of these questions
00:55:45.11\00:55:47.11
we can get in
the next two minutes.
00:55:47.11\00:55:48.81
So here's the first question:
00:55:48.81\00:55:50.11
when the body dies,
where does the spirit go?
00:55:50.11\00:55:53.42
- Well, the Bible tells us
that what we call the spirit
00:55:53.42\00:55:56.48
or sometimes
refer to as the soul,
00:55:57.59\00:55:59.45
it's the combination
of that breath of life,
00:55:59.45\00:56:02.22
which is the word
spirit, and the body.
00:56:02.22\00:56:05.69
The word spirit in
Greek is the word pneuma.
00:56:05.69\00:56:09.10
It's where you get
the word pneumonia.
00:56:09.10\00:56:10.00
It means a wind.
00:56:10.00\00:56:11.37
So the idea that you've got
a ghost that flies out of you
00:56:11.37\00:56:13.84
when you die is not
what the Bible teaches.
00:56:13.84\00:56:16.00
You cease being a soul
until the resurrection,
00:56:16.00\00:56:19.71
when the breath of
life is united again
00:56:19.71\00:56:22.71
with the new
creation, the new body.
00:56:22.71\00:56:24.68
- Okay, next
question that we have,
00:56:24.68\00:56:25.78
how do we know if we
are walking in the Spirit?
00:56:25.78\00:56:29.85
Well, Jesus said, "You
will know them by their fruits."
00:56:29.85\00:56:32.72
So we can examine ourselves,
00:56:33.72\00:56:36.42
I believe it's in II
Corinthians chapter 13.
00:56:36.42\00:56:38.86
There, the apostle Paul said,
00:56:38.86\00:56:40.93
"Let us examine ourselves
whether we be in the faith,"
00:56:40.93\00:56:44.07
and we use the
criteria of Christ, His example,
00:56:44.07\00:56:46.84
His teachings, and say, Lord,
am I walking in the Spirit?
00:56:46.84\00:56:50.57
Do I have that
peace that He offers?
00:56:50.57\00:56:53.48
Am I living in
communion with God?
00:56:53.48\00:56:55.74
And you'll have the
fruit of the Spirit.
00:56:55.74\00:56:58.78
- Okay, another question,
Revelation chapter 21 four
00:56:58.78\00:57:02.05
says that God'll wipe away
every tear from their eyes.
00:57:02.05\00:57:04.89
When does this occur?
00:57:04.89\00:57:06.09
- People sometimes think that
as soon as you go to heaven,
00:57:07.46\00:57:09.09
there could possibly be
no more tears in heaven,
00:57:09.09\00:57:11.56
but it really doesn't say that
God wipes away all the tears
00:57:11.56\00:57:15.06
until after the millennium,
00:57:15.06\00:57:17.27
because at the
end of the millennium,
00:57:17.27\00:57:18.63
there is a great
white throne judgment.
00:57:18.63\00:57:20.90
Many are found
lost in that judgment,
00:57:20.90\00:57:24.91
and people might have friends
or family that are not there.
00:57:24.91\00:57:29.01
God is sad.
00:57:30.65\00:57:32.98
If angels rejoice
when someone's saved,
00:57:32.98\00:57:35.32
then presumably, there's
sadness when someone's lost.
00:57:35.32\00:57:37.85
If they have those emotions,
then we have those emotions.
00:57:37.85\00:57:41.69
But after God makes the earth
new following the 1,000 years,
00:57:41.69\00:57:45.46
that's when it
says he wipes away
00:57:45.46\00:57:46.83
all the tears from our eyes.
00:57:46.83\00:57:48.13
- All right, Pastor
Doug, a quick question here.
00:57:48.13\00:57:49.96
What type of locust
did John the Baptist eat?
00:57:49.96\00:57:52.87
- Yeah, was it locust bean?
00:57:52.87\00:57:54.47
The same word is
used for the locust pod,
00:57:54.47\00:57:56.30
something like a carob
pod, or was it the grasshoppers?
00:57:56.30\00:58:00.21
We don't know.
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We're hoping it was the
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