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from Amazing Facts
International, Pastor Doug
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Batchelor. - Hello, friends.
Would you like to hear an
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amazing fact? An anechoic
chamber is a very carefully
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insulated room
designed to eliminate all sound.
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Orfield Laboratories
in Minnesota has built
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what is listed as the
quietest place on Earth,
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a chamber so quiet
that the longest anybody
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has been able to
bear it is 45 minutes.
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It's 99.99% sound absorbent,
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and it holds a
Guinness World Record
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for the world's quietest place.
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The inside of the small
room is lined on all six sides
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with deep fiberglass wedges,
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a double wall
of insulated steel,
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and one-foot-thick
reinforced concrete.
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Inside the room, it's so
silent that background noise
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is actually measured
in negative decibels.
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It is so quiet you'll
hear your heart beating,
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your stomach gurgling, I
hear that anyway sometimes,
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and your bone's grinding.
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But the room isn't
just for torturing people.
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Companies rent the
room to test their products
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and to find out just
how loud they really are.
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Even NASA has sent astronauts
there to help them experience
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the absolute silence of space.
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You know, Pastor Ross, sometimes
when you live in the city
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and there's all
this background noise,
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you long to find a place
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where you can have a
little bit of peace and quiet.
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- Mm-hmm, even if you get
out of the busyness of the city
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and you go to the country,
you find a quieter place,
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but you still
hear the wind blowing.
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You hear the chirping
of the birds and so on.
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But a place where
there is absolute silence,
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you can understand why somebody
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can only be in
there for 45 minutes.
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We're not used to
that kind of silence.
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- Yeah, they used to call them,
I think, isolation chambers
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where it would kinda isolate you
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and separate you from all sound.
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For some reason that
sounds attractive to me.
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Just some people,
when it's totally quiet,
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it unnerves them
evidently. - Right?
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- I'd like to take the test here
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and see if I can make
it more than 45 minutes.
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I'll bet you I could, but
you know, it makes me think
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about a verse in the
Bible that talks about silence
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in a place where
you wouldn't expect it
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to be absolutely
silent, and that's Heaven.
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In Revelation 8:1 it says,
"He opened the seventh seal
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and there was silence in
Heaven for about half an hour."
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Now, normally in
Heaven you figure
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that the angels
are singing, you know?
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The visions that Isaiah
had of God on His throne.
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The angels are crying
out "Holy, holy, holy."
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And in the presence of the Lord,
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you just picture there's
gonna be this awesome music.
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And to have that, you
know, they say the worst thing
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you can do in radio is
have what they call dead air.
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That's where you have no sound
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and people will change channels.
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In Heaven to have dead air,
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it says about the
space of half an hour.
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What do you think that means?
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- Well, you
know, it's interesting.
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You do find these different
time periods in Bible prophecy,
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and the Bible
tells us as a principle
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when interpreting
Bible time prophecy,
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one prophetic day is
equal to one literal year.
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So scholars have done the math.
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There are 360 days in a Hebrew
year, 24 hours in the day.
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So you divide 360 by
24, you end up with 15 days,
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which would be our time.
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But here the verse says
there's silence in Heaven
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about the space
of a half an hour.
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So you would need to cut
that 15 day in a half so-
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- So 15 days prophetically
would be about an hour.
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- One hour, then a
half an hour would be,
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well, seven days, about a week.
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- Mm-hmm. Yeah,
that's interesting.
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Now, why would it be
quiet in Heaven for a week?
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- Well, you'd think it
would be quiet in Heaven
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because something very
important is happening,
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and we know that when
Jesus comes the second time,
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He's gonna bring all
of the angels with Him.
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- [Doug] There you go.
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- And if there's
anyone else left in Heaven,
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I'm sure their focus is
on what's happening here
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on the Earth with the
second coming of Christ.
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So the half an hour
of silence in Heaven
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is really taking
place in the future
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when Jesus
comes the second time.
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- And it's at the end,
it's, I guess, the seventh seal.
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- That's right. -
Is when that happens.
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Well, that makes sense 'cause
it does say there in prophecy
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that when Christ comes it says,
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"He's coming and all
the angels with Him."
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Not some angels,
so if all the angels
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that sing God's
praise in Heaven are gone,
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it would be quiet.
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- Now, it is interesting if
there's seven days of silence
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in Heaven, well, that would
mean that it'll probably take
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about seven days for the journey
from Earth back to Heaven.
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I don't think it takes
three and a half days for Jesus
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to come with the angels
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and then three and a half days
to go back because you know,
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angels can travel at
the speed of thought.
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So I would assume then
that Christ and the angels
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come quickly to the Earth
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and then the journey back to
Heaven takes about seven days.
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- Maybe take us
on a little tour.
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- That's right,
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- Some things to
see on the way back.
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- Scenic route. -
Yeah, the scenic route.
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Well, we're looking forward
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to what the Bible
calls the blessed hope
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when Jesus comes again.
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And there's several
references to the second coming
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in the prophecies of
Daniel and Revelation.
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- Mm-hmm, absolutely.
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- All right, well,
before we go to the phone lines,
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we always like to
begin our program with prayer
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so let's just do that right now.
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Dear Father, once again
we are grateful for this time
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where we can just open
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Study the Word of
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And Lord, the Bible is Your book
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So we ask for Your blessing.
Be with us here in the studio.
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Be with those who are listening
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Our first caller
this evening is Anthony,
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and he's listening in New York.
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Anthony, welcome to the program.
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- [Anthony] Good
evening again, Pastors.
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- Evening.
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- [Anthony] Yes,
that amazing fact
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was actually perfect for
the question I have today.
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And as I always say,
I'll try to be concise.
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In general, my
question is, what is the role
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of the range of emotions
when it comes to worship?
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And I know we tend to, you know,
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try to be more
reserved in church
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and more reflective
and solemn in church.
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But is there a role for
the emotion of excitement?
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And I'm trying to figure out,
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what's the biblical
balance for the two?
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- Yeah, that is
a great question.
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You know, when you read the
Bible, you'll find examples.
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Well, first of all, let me
just set a big context for this.
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When we're in
the presence of God,
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the Bible teaches consistently
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that there should be reverence.
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Now, you find verses
in the Bible that says
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the Lord is in His holy temple.
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Let all the Earth keep
silent, speaking of silence.
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So there's a time
for silence in reverence.
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Then you find when they gathered
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for the reading of the
Word in the Book of Ezra,
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the people were
convicted and they wept.
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And then Ezra told
the people, "Do not weep.
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Today is a day for rejoicing."
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And there are times when
Solomon dedicated the temple
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and the fire, God came down,
the people fell on their faces.
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There was fear
and there was all...
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So you can see based on the
context of what's happening,
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the preacher might
be preaching a sermon
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where some are greatly
comforted and there's rejoicing.
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Others might be convicted
and there's like the publican
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that smote upon
his breast and said,
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"Lord, be
merciful to me, a sinner."
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So all things should be done
in the context of reverence.
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We've all seen church
services probably on TV
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where it looks like a hootenanny
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and there's just, it's chaos.
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Paul says, "Let all things
be done decently in order."
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But that doesn't mean
there shouldn't be great joy.
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I think when people
sing, look at all the psalms
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that talk about, you know,
joy to the Lord and rejoicing.
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Now, if my rejoicing totally
distracts the other person,
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I went to a church where
there was this one individual
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that every time I made a point
there was a loud hallelujah
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that would almost make
the people around them jump.
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And I appreciated
the encouragement,
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but it was distracting everybody
else 'cause it was so loud
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that I had to ask them, I said,
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"Look, can you dial the
volume down a little bit?"
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So you don't want your
rejoicing or your weeping
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or whatever it
is to be a spectacle
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that's gonna distract other
people from hearing the Word
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so there's that balance.
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I don't know. What do
you think, Pastor Ross?
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- Yeah, absolutely.
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You know, when one
enters into the presence of God
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or into a house of
worship, the church,
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and you're gonna worship,
I think it's appropriate
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to come in with
reverence, with quietness,
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understanding that
you're in the presence of God
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and you're preparing
your heart for worship.
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But as you mentioned
throughout the worship service,
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there are
appropriate times for singing
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and rejoicing and praising God.
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But there are also other
times for quiet reflection,
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contemplation,
listening to the Word.
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So I think that you
need to be balanced.
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- And then Joel even
says it's time to wail and,
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he's talking about
repentance, though.
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- Right. - He
says there are times
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when people
should repent and he said
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they should wail and
weep and those are, you know,
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hopefully not
the weekly service.
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- [Jean] Right.
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- But yeah, so
great question, Anthony.
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I don't know if that
helped your answer at all.
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But you know, like it says here,
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you gave us a
Scripture from Solomon.
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"To everything there's a season
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and a time for every
purpose under Heaven."
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So there are times for fasting
in prayer and maybe weeping.
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There certainly
are times for rejoicing
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as the angels
rejoice and praising God.
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The Gospel is called good
news. It's the context, I think.
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- Okay, very good. -
Always done with reverence.
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- We've got Cole
listening in North Dakota.
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Cole, welcome to the program.
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- [Cole] Thank you. Thank you.
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The question I have
is from Isaiah 45:7.
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It's, I'll read
the text real quick.
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- [Doug] Okay.
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- [Cole] "I form the
light, and create darkness.
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I make peace, and create evil.
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I the Lord do all these things."
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I know other translations
use words like calamity
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or disaster, but I had a
discussion with some people
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about this and they made a point
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about God does
create evil for glory.
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But my question is,
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does God actually
create evil if He's perfect?
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- Yeah, no, this
is actually, I think,
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at least in the
King James Version,
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it's sort of an
unfortunate translation.
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We get that question a lot
where God says, "I create evil."
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You look at the Book of Job
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and look at the
calamities that came upon Job.
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And here the devil
came to God and said,
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"You know, Job, the
only reason he serves You
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is because You've
hedged him in with angels.
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You protect him
and you bless him.
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And if You take
away Your protection,
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he'll curse You to Your face."
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And God says, "Okay, I'm
going to withdraw my protection,
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but there's limits
on what you can do."
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So God is sovereign in the sense
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that He had to
loosen the devil's leash,
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but it was the
devil that did it.
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So God created a beautiful
angel who was given a free will
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who chose to do evil.
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Now, the Bible says every good,
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and this is the Book of James,
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"Every good and
perfect gift comes from God."
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Jesus said, "God is good."
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And so you cannot be
simultaneously light and
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darkness, good
and evil. - Mm-hmm.
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Well, we know the
consequence of evil
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is sorrow, suffering, and death.
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You know, it's rebellion.
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And God wouldn't create
something that would lead
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to rebellion, suffering, and
death contrary to His nature.
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God is a God of love.
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So if you look in the
Bible- - In this verse, yeah.
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- The devil's
really the author of evil.
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- Exactly, so this verse,
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we kind of strayed
a little bit from it,
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but the verse that you're
talking about in Isaiah 45:7
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where He said, "I make
peace and create evil,"
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as you mentioned,
like the New King James
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says, "create calamity."
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And the word there would
really be, I allow calamity.
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So sometimes God
allows trials to come.
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And when the
flood came on the world,
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well, God said "I'm
going to send a flood."
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It's the language that He
uses. It was to punish the evil.
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And so Isaiah's
saying I'm the One
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who ultimately has
sovereign final power.
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Hope that helps. Good question.
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- Next caller that we have
is Solace listening in Arkansas.
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Solace, welcome to the program.
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- [Solace] Hello, Pastors. - Hi.
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- [Solace] Thank
you for having me.
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My question is on Luke 16:9,
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and it's after the
parable of the unjust steward.
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And it's when Jesus
says, "And I say to you,
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make friends for yourselves
by means of unrighteous wealth
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that when you fail,
they may receive you
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into the everlasting home."
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So I'm kind of confused on
that. Could you explain that?
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- Yeah, this is a parable
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that has left a lot
of people wondering.
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Jesus talks about this
steward that is very unfaithful
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and realizing
he's gonna be fired.
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He enters into agreements
with the debtors of his master
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so that they basically
become accomplices with him.
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And Jesus is,
He's complimenting.
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And you can read this
in verse eight, I believe.
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It says, "So the master
commended the unjust steward."
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Why would he
commend somebody unjust?
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He's not commending
him for being unjust.
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He's saying what
you've done is wise.
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You are looking ahead
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and you are making
plans to protect your future.
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And you notice in
the end of this parable,
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He says that the
children of this age
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are often wiser than
the children of light.
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Meaning that the
people in the world, you know,
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they'll do things to
plan to secure their future.
00:16:09.40\00:16:12.50
But a lot of
people say the believers
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aren't really planning
for their everlasting future.
00:16:14.20\00:16:17.64
So when He says, "I say
make for yourself friends
00:16:17.64\00:16:21.41
of unrighteous
mammon that when you fail,
00:16:21.41\00:16:24.85
they may receive you
into an everlasting home,"
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I think Jesus is
saying that we ought to invest
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using the world's resources,
invest in saving people.
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We're gonna see them
through eternity in Heaven.
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You got any thoughts on that?
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- Yeah, I think
you're right, Pastor.
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You know, sometimes
in the parables of Jesus,
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Jesus uses contrast to
illustrate the important truth.
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So if the wicked are preparing
for their eternal future,
00:16:45.57\00:16:49.40
meaning
distraction 'cause they focus
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on the things of this
Earth, shouldn't we as believers
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also be preparing for
what we believe to be a future
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in paradise with
Christ and with the saved,
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the redeemed in Heaven?
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We need to be
preparing for that.
00:17:01.45\00:17:03.82
We need to be
getting ready for that.
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And as you said, utilizing
our resources and our influence
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to help get other people
into the kingdom as well.
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- Yep, so hope that
helps a little, Solace,
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and we sure
appreciate your call.
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- Next caller that we have
is Joan listening in Arkansas.
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Joan, welcome to the program.
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- [Joan] I think you mean
Joan from Anchorage, Alaska.
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- Oh there it is, okay.
- That's it, sorry Joan.
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- From Alaska,
welcome. - That's you.
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- [Joan] Well,
good evening, Pastors.
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I was wondering if you
could help me to understand
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who the eight kings are
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that are mentioned
in Revelation 17:10-11.
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I can read that for you.
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- I'll tell you what, Joan,
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why don't you let us read it
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because you were
getting terrible feedback.
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You may have your
radio on in the background.
00:17:47.60\00:17:51.20
- [Joan] Really?
00:17:51.20\00:17:52.33
- Yeah, so if, I
don't know if you can turn-
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- [Joan] How is it now?
00:17:54.34\00:17:55.90
- [Jean] There we
go. - That's better.
00:17:55.90\00:17:56.77
So you go
ahead, you can read it.
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- [Joan] Okay, it says,
"There are also," no here,
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this is verse nine, "Here
is the mind which has wisdom.
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The seven heads are seven
mountains on which the woman
00:18:06.61\00:18:11.32
sits. There are also
seven kings. Five have fallen.
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One is and the
other has not yet come.
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And when he comes, he
must continue a short time.
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And the beast
that was and is not,
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is himself also the
eighth, and is of the seventh
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and is going into
perdition. - Okay.
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- [Joan] So I was just wondering
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if you could let me know
who these eight kings are.
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- All right,
good. We'll do our best.
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Now, I'll just go, I'll
tell you right at the outset
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that even within my church,
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there are probably four
major interpretations of this.
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You know, we're
not cookie cutters
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where everybody has
every answer for everything
00:18:50.63\00:18:52.89
and so there are different
views on this prophecy.
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I'll tell you what I
teach and what you're gonna find
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typically in the
Amazing Facts lessons.
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It says that this woman is
sitting on seven mountains.
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Well, most scholars believe
that the woman of Revelation 17
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is talking about the papacy.
00:19:07.14\00:19:08.88
A woman is a church.
00:19:08.88\00:19:10.88
Here is a woman who's been
unfaithful because the papacy,
00:19:10.88\00:19:14.32
they started to turn to
idolatry and they, you know,
00:19:14.32\00:19:18.09
adopted a number
of pagan doctrines.
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They were seen as the
harlot or the unfaithful woman.
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Sitting among seven hills.
Rome is the city of seven hills.
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Now, this is what Luther and
Calvin and Spurgeon and Wesley,
00:19:28.40\00:19:32.47
that many Protestants taught
and unitedly believe this,
00:19:32.47\00:19:36.67
but it says that those
seven hills are also seven kings
00:19:36.67\00:19:39.97
or kingdoms on which she sits.
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It says five are fallen.
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Now, some take the perspective
that when John wrote this,
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Rome, pagan Rome was in power.
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So the five before would
be, you've got the five powers
00:19:50.35\00:19:55.16
that occupied God's people
which were Egypt, Assyria,
00:19:55.16\00:19:59.93
Babylon, Medo-Persia,
and Greece, five are fallen.
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After Greece
fell, it says one is,
00:20:04.53\00:20:06.30
that would be Pagan
Rome, Rome ruled by Caesars.
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Then the one who is
the spiritual problem
00:20:10.07\00:20:13.58
would be the
seventh, which is the papacy.
00:20:14.84\00:20:17.88
But it receives a deadly wound
00:20:17.88\00:20:20.32
and recovers and
comes back into power.
00:20:20.32\00:20:22.52
That's why it says
he's also the eighth.
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How can the
seventh also be the eighth
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unless it takes a
break and comes back?
00:20:25.55\00:20:29.26
And it talks about this
beast receiving a deadly one,
00:20:29.26\00:20:31.69
but the wound is
healed in Revelation 13.
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So hopefully you could take
that all, and that's the way
00:20:34.03\00:20:37.23
that a number of scholars
understand it, but not all.
00:20:37.23\00:20:41.64
And I think you'd
find that in our lessons.
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I don't remember
what lesson it is.
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Oh, that's the woman.
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- Yeah, "The Other
Woman." - The mystery, yeah.
00:20:49.68\00:20:52.11
- Is what it's called.
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- It's a lesson called "The
Other Woman" that you can get.
00:20:53.65\00:20:55.22
- And if you'd like to receive
the lesson just call and ask.
00:20:55.22\00:20:57.32
The number to call
for that is 800-835-6747.
00:20:57.32\00:21:01.49
And you can ask
for the study guide.
00:21:01.49\00:21:03.02
It's called "The Other Woman,"
00:21:03.02\00:21:04.43
and we'll be
happy to send that out
00:21:04.43\00:21:05.43
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:21:05.43\00:21:07.03
- Thank you Joan
from Arkansas, Alaska.
00:21:07.03\00:21:09.06
- Yeah, thanks for your call.
00:21:09.06\00:21:10.83
Next caller that we
have is Edna from Michigan.
00:21:10.83\00:21:14.84
Edna, welcome to the program.
00:21:14.84\00:21:17.44
- [Edna] Hi, guys. Thank
you for taking my phone call.
00:21:17.44\00:21:20.14
- Yeah.
00:21:20.14\00:21:21.48
- [Edna] My question
tonight comes out of Revelation,
00:21:21.48\00:21:23.78
and it's about the
seven last plagues.
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I know the controversy is
about God's seventh day Sabbath
00:21:26.08\00:21:30.82
and man
worshiping on the first day
00:21:30.82\00:21:34.12
and about the time of
trouble, the close of probation.
00:21:34.12\00:21:37.76
But I do not understand,
00:21:37.76\00:21:40.33
what is the purpose of
the seven last plagues?
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- Okay, good.
00:21:44.50\00:21:46.40
Keep in mind the
seven last plagues
00:21:46.40\00:21:48.37
are something of a parallel
to what happened in Exodus.
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In Exodus, God was
getting ready to take His people
00:21:52.77\00:21:55.08
from slavery to
the promised land.
00:21:55.08\00:21:57.25
Jesus is getting ready to
take His people from the slavery
00:21:57.25\00:22:00.35
of the devil in this world
to the promised land of Heaven.
00:22:00.35\00:22:03.85
And there's these 10
plagues that fell on Egypt.
00:22:03.85\00:22:08.19
Now, the last
seven of the 10 plagues,
00:22:08.19\00:22:11.63
God protects even the
Israelites from those,
00:22:11.63\00:22:14.00
it doesn't affect
the land of Goshen.
00:22:14.00\00:22:15.86
So you've got the
seven plagues of Egypt
00:22:15.86\00:22:18.20
do not affect the Israelites.
00:22:18.20\00:22:20.34
The first three did.
00:22:20.34\00:22:21.97
And you're saying,
well if probation's closed,
00:22:21.97\00:22:24.44
then why is God allowing this?
00:22:24.44\00:22:26.27
Well, for one thing, it's
showing they did not repent.
00:22:26.27\00:22:31.18
When the plagues
came on the Egyptians,
00:22:31.18\00:22:33.31
even the Pharaoh
says he repented,
00:22:33.31\00:22:35.15
and the Egyptians
said, "Let them go."
00:22:35.15\00:22:37.02
There was some repentance,
but the wicked of the world,
00:22:37.02\00:22:40.09
they have no
redeemable qualities left.
00:22:40.09\00:22:41.89
They've hardened their hearts.
00:22:41.89\00:22:43.12
There's nothing that God can do.
00:22:43.12\00:22:44.89
And He's demonstrating
to their friends, family,
00:22:44.89\00:22:47.10
and unfallen worlds that the
world, even under these trials
00:22:47.10\00:22:50.83
does not soften their
hearts and turn to God,
00:22:50.83\00:22:53.64
but they harden their
hearts and they blaspheme
00:22:53.64\00:22:55.90
and they curse God so it's
something of a demonstration.
00:22:55.90\00:22:59.54
- You know,
under the fifth plague
00:22:59.54\00:23:00.74
that you read about
in Revelation 16:11,
00:23:00.74\00:23:03.21
well, let me start in verse 10.
00:23:03.21\00:23:04.58
It says, "Then the fifth
angel poured out his bowl
00:23:04.58\00:23:06.65
on the throne of the beast
00:23:06.65\00:23:07.72
and the kingdom
became full of darkness,
00:23:07.72\00:23:09.48
and they gnawed their
tongues because of the pain."
00:23:09.48\00:23:11.32
And then the next verse says,
00:23:11.32\00:23:12.42
"They blasphemed
the God of Heaven
00:23:12.42\00:23:14.49
because of the pains
and because of the sores,
00:23:14.49\00:23:16.52
and they did not
repent of their deeds."
00:23:16.52\00:23:18.89
So it's evident
here that they recognize
00:23:18.89\00:23:20.96
that these are
judgments coming from God,
00:23:20.96\00:23:22.73
but their heart is so
hardened that they rebel
00:23:22.73\00:23:25.17
even under these judgments
00:23:25.17\00:23:27.04
and they
blaspheme the name of God.
00:23:27.04\00:23:28.67
- That's right.
00:23:28.67\00:23:30.07
- So the plagues reveal the
true condition of the heart.
00:23:30.07\00:23:32.61
But at the same time, you
find another group in Revelation
00:23:32.61\00:23:35.44
that when the plagues have
been falling upon the Earth,
00:23:35.44\00:23:38.01
they're trusting in God.
00:23:38.01\00:23:39.78
They're rejoicing 'cause
they know the end is coming.
00:23:39.78\00:23:41.75
Their faith is
being tested and tried,
00:23:41.75\00:23:43.32
but they are shown to
be genuine, they're true.
00:23:43.32\00:23:46.09
And those are the ones
that have the seal of God.
00:23:46.09\00:23:47.89
So the plagues reveal the
two groups at the end of time.
00:23:47.89\00:23:50.83
- And they are
something of a judgment
00:23:50.83\00:23:52.23
because when the ocean
and the springs become blood,
00:23:52.23\00:23:55.93
the angel says, "They've
shed the blood of the saints.
00:23:55.93\00:23:58.13
You're giving
them blood to drink."
00:23:58.13\00:23:59.40
- Right. - So
it's they're kind of,
00:23:59.40\00:24:00.87
it's something of a judgment
as well as a demonstration.
00:24:00.87\00:24:04.71
Thanks. That's a
good question, Edna.
00:24:04.71\00:24:07.08
We appreciate it.
00:24:07.08\00:24:08.21
- All right,
maybe one more question
00:24:08.21\00:24:10.21
before we take our break.
00:24:10.21\00:24:11.18
We have Dez
listening in Florida.
00:24:11.18\00:24:12.85
Dez, welcome to the program.
00:24:12.85\00:24:15.32
- [Dez] Hello,
welcome, thank you.
00:24:15.32\00:24:16.95
- Hi.
00:24:16.95\00:24:18.09
- [Dez] I'm
calling about the last days
00:24:18.09\00:24:20.82
'cause I know this is
something that we talked about,
00:24:20.82\00:24:23.29
supposed to leave
the city. - Mm-hmm.
00:24:23.29\00:24:25.16
- [Dez] And move into
the country or somewhere.
00:24:25.16\00:24:28.10
And I don't understand.
00:24:28.10\00:24:30.63
I mean, I don't
know. It's hard to say it.
00:24:30.63\00:24:32.83
- Yeah, that's a good question.
00:24:32.83\00:24:34.17
In the last days when
Jesus says in Matthew 24,
00:24:34.17\00:24:37.87
"When you see the
abomination of desolation
00:24:37.87\00:24:40.11
standing in the holy place,
let those that be in Judea
00:24:40.11\00:24:42.44
flee into the mountains."
00:24:42.44\00:24:43.91
I think in Luke it says,
00:24:43.91\00:24:45.75
"When you see Jerusalem
encompassed with armies,
00:24:45.75\00:24:47.72
let those that be in
Judea flee into the mountains."
00:24:47.72\00:24:50.25
So for ancient Israel,
00:24:50.25\00:24:52.45
when the
abomination of desolation came,
00:24:52.45\00:24:55.16
the Roman
armies surrounded them.
00:24:55.16\00:24:56.96
That was a signal to flee.
00:24:56.96\00:24:58.93
There was a brief break
in that siege and they fled.
00:24:58.93\00:25:03.30
In the last days, God's people
are gonna be hedged in again
00:25:03.30\00:25:06.80
by laws, religious
laws that compel worship.
00:25:06.80\00:25:10.34
First, you can't buy or sell
00:25:10.34\00:25:11.74
and ultimately
there'll be a death decree.
00:25:11.74\00:25:13.94
And when we see that
those laws are coming,
00:25:13.94\00:25:17.25
that's gonna be a time for,
00:25:17.25\00:25:19.25
we probably want to
get out of the cities.
00:25:19.25\00:25:20.72
And especially, and that doesn't
mean everybody can afford
00:25:20.72\00:25:23.92
to, you know, sell their home
and go buy a country estate,
00:25:23.92\00:25:28.82
but we should be moving
towards more remote places.
00:25:28.82\00:25:32.13
I think the Lord is warning
us this very practically.
00:25:32.13\00:25:35.30
We saw in recent years
there's been some social unrest
00:25:35.30\00:25:39.37
and cities were on fire
and there are places in,
00:25:39.37\00:25:43.44
you know,
Portland, Oregon and stuff,
00:25:45.57\00:25:47.71
you couldn't
even drive downtown.
00:25:47.71\00:25:49.31
We had some
friends that lived there
00:25:49.31\00:25:50.98
and they said it
was just terrible.
00:25:50.98\00:25:52.91
And a number of
Minneapolis and Florida
00:25:52.91\00:25:56.92
and Washington, D.C., you know,
00:25:56.92\00:25:58.59
police marching up the street.
00:25:58.59\00:26:00.06
You didn't see that kind
of rioting going on in Podunk,
00:26:00.06\00:26:04.76
you know, these
little farm towns,
00:26:04.76\00:26:07.60
they didn't have
that same kind of threat.
00:26:07.60\00:26:09.03
So you're a little safer
00:26:09.03\00:26:10.27
in more remote
communities during that time
00:26:10.27\00:26:12.13
and so I think
that's the warning.
00:26:12.13\00:26:13.84
Then you got that
verse there in Isaiah.
00:26:13.84\00:26:16.24
"Woe unto them
that join house to house
00:26:16.24\00:26:18.34
and lay field to
field, till there's no place
00:26:18.34\00:26:20.41
that a man can be
alone on the Earth."
00:26:20.41\00:26:22.11
It's nice to have
a place more alone.
00:26:22.11\00:26:24.41
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Paul, you're on the air.
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- [Paul] Yes, I am.
00:30:08.44\00:30:10.41
My question is,
what does the Bible say
00:30:10.41\00:30:13.74
about having a large
sum of money in the bank
00:30:14.81\00:30:18.51
or in investments
near the last days?
00:30:20.15\00:30:23.32
- Good question.
00:30:24.39\00:30:25.79
I'm looking up
a verse right now.
00:30:27.32\00:30:29.19
Yeah, there's a parable
that Jesus tells in Luke 12
00:30:29.19\00:30:33.53
where He said, He spoke a
parable, and this is Luke 12:16.
00:30:34.83\00:30:39.73
He spoke a
parable to them saying,
00:30:39.73\00:30:41.54
"The ground of a certain
rich man yielded plentifully.
00:30:41.54\00:30:44.54
And he thought
within himself saying,
00:30:44.54\00:30:46.84
'What shall I do, since I
have no room to store my crops?'
00:30:46.84\00:30:50.01
So he said, 'I'll do this.
00:30:50.01\00:30:51.78
I'll pull down my barns
and I'll build bigger barns
00:30:51.78\00:30:55.22
and there I'll store
all my crops and my goods.
00:30:55.22\00:30:57.45
And I'll say,
"Soul, you have many goods
00:30:57.45\00:31:00.29
laid up for many years.
00:31:00.29\00:31:01.39
Take your ease. Eat,
drink, and be merry."'
00:31:01.39\00:31:03.83
But God said to him, 'Fool!
00:31:03.83\00:31:05.93
This night your soul
will be required of you.
00:31:05.93\00:31:08.20
Then whose will those things
be which you have provided?'"
00:31:08.20\00:31:12.30
And Jesus says, "So is
he who lays up treasure
00:31:12.30\00:31:14.54
for himself and is
not rich towards God."
00:31:14.54\00:31:16.77
We certainly don't
want to be hoarding
00:31:16.77\00:31:18.77
and stockpiling resources.
00:31:18.77\00:31:21.01
You know, and this is
a great question, Paul,
00:31:22.74\00:31:25.25
because well, does
that mean everybody
00:31:25.25\00:31:27.82
is to give away
everything they have right now?
00:31:27.82\00:31:30.79
Does it mean we
should save nothing?
00:31:30.79\00:31:33.49
And I really like the way John
Wesley dealt with this issue.
00:31:33.49\00:31:36.93
He said, "A Christian
should earn all they can,
00:31:36.93\00:31:40.10
they should save all they can,
00:31:40.10\00:31:42.30
and they should
give all they can."
00:31:42.30\00:31:44.03
So I think there's a balance.
00:31:44.03\00:31:45.90
We don't know exactly
when the Lord's gonna come.
00:31:45.90\00:31:49.07
So you know, it's
probably a good idea
00:31:49.07\00:31:51.04
to have some savings for
yourself and your family.
00:31:51.04\00:31:54.24
And you know, if you're
working hard and you're earning,
00:31:54.24\00:31:57.48
you should also be able
to give and give generously.
00:31:57.48\00:32:01.78
So that I think
is the principle.
00:32:02.88\00:32:05.55
You know, even if you
divided your resources
00:32:07.56\00:32:09.29
the way I just
stated it, and you said,
00:32:09.29\00:32:11.89
"All right, well I'm gonna,
you know, need 1/3 for living,
00:32:11.89\00:32:15.60
1/3 for saving
and 1/3 for giving."
00:32:15.60\00:32:18.73
I mean, imagine how radical
that would be for the Church
00:32:18.73\00:32:22.24
to say 1/3 of what I have,
I'm gonna give to God's work.
00:32:22.24\00:32:25.84
Man, the Gospel would go
into all the world pretty quick.
00:32:25.84\00:32:29.24
And just even the spirit
that it would take to do that.
00:32:29.24\00:32:32.15
- Mm-hmm, you know, Jesus said
something else in Luke 12:33.
00:32:32.15\00:32:35.65
Jesus said,
"Where your treasure is,
00:32:35.65\00:32:37.42
that's where
your heart is also."
00:32:37.42\00:32:39.05
So if you are
utilizing our resources
00:32:39.05\00:32:41.02
to build up the
kingdom of Heaven,
00:32:41.02\00:32:42.72
that's gonna be our passion.
00:32:42.72\00:32:44.13
That's where our heart is.
00:32:44.13\00:32:45.26
But if our goal is
just to treasure up treasure
00:32:45.26\00:32:47.60
here on this Earth, well,
our heart's in the wrong place.
00:32:47.60\00:32:50.90
- Yep, thanks, Paul.
00:32:50.90\00:32:52.10
- All right,
thanks for your call.
00:32:52.10\00:32:53.34
You know, we do
have a study guide.
00:32:53.34\00:32:54.60
It's called "In God We
Trust," and it's talking
00:32:54.60\00:32:56.40
about what the Bible says about
finance, and we'll be happy
00:32:56.40\00:32:59.01
to send this to
anyone that calls and asks.
00:32:59.01\00:33:00.88
The number is 800-835-6747,
00:33:00.88\00:33:03.21
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for the study guide.
00:33:04.55\00:33:05.91
It's called "In God We Trust."
00:33:05.91\00:33:07.72
And we'll be happy to send
that to anyone in North America.
00:33:07.72\00:33:10.22
- [Doug] Amen.
00:33:10.22\00:33:11.22
- We got Aaron
listening in New York.
00:33:11.22\00:33:12.79
Aaron, welcome to the program.
00:33:12.79\00:33:16.02
- [Aaron] Good evening, Pastors,
00:33:16.02\00:33:17.33
and thank you
for taking my call.
00:33:17.33\00:33:20.40
Jeremiah 17:21
says, "Thus says the Lord,
00:33:20.40\00:33:23.83
'Take heed to
yourselves and bear no burden
00:33:24.87\00:33:28.04
on the Sabbath
day, nor bring it in
00:33:28.04\00:33:30.91
to the gates of Jerusalem.'"
00:33:30.91\00:33:33.04
Well, the Jewish leaders
during the time when Jesus
00:33:33.04\00:33:36.78
walked on Earth believed that
one of the people Jesus healed
00:33:36.78\00:33:40.72
broke this law
by carrying his bed.
00:33:40.72\00:33:43.92
But Jesus disagreed about that.
00:33:43.92\00:33:46.39
My question is,
what is the meaning
00:33:46.39\00:33:48.69
of the word
burden in Jeremiah 17:21?
00:33:48.69\00:33:51.83
- Yeah, well first of
all, when Jesus healed a man,
00:33:53.19\00:33:55.80
He said, "Take up your
bed and go to your house."
00:33:55.80\00:33:58.33
And I think he did
that on a couple occasions,
00:33:58.33\00:34:00.37
once with the, well, I don't
know that it was a Sabbath day.
00:34:00.37\00:34:02.90
The paralytic
doesn't say it was a Sabbath.
00:34:02.90\00:34:06.51
The blind man, I think he
took up his stuff and went home,
00:34:06.51\00:34:10.35
and the Pool of Bethesda.
00:34:10.35\00:34:11.91
- That was a
Sabbath. - Yeah, yeah.
00:34:11.91\00:34:13.62
So that's a whole
different kind of burden
00:34:13.62\00:34:17.89
than Jeremiah is
talking about people
00:34:17.89\00:34:19.92
that were carrying
burdens of goods to sell.
00:34:19.92\00:34:23.26
They were doing buying
and selling in business
00:34:23.26\00:34:25.19
and you know, carrying...
00:34:25.19\00:34:27.96
If Jesus heals and you gotta
take your sleeping bag home,
00:34:27.96\00:34:31.60
that's not Sabbath breaking.
00:34:31.60\00:34:34.00
So, you know, Jesus is saying
00:34:34.00\00:34:35.57
it's better to do
good on the Sabbath day.
00:34:35.57\00:34:37.84
Some people look at the disputes
00:34:37.84\00:34:39.61
that Jesus had
regarding the Sabbath.
00:34:39.61\00:34:41.68
Matter of fact, probably
one of the most disputed
00:34:41.68\00:34:43.85
of the Ten Commandments
that Jesus had with the scribes
00:34:43.85\00:34:48.92
and the Pharisees was
regarding the Sabbath.
00:34:50.05\00:34:51.89
He never said you
should not keep it.
00:34:51.89\00:34:53.56
The arguments were
always about how to keep it.
00:34:53.56\00:34:56.89
And basically He said, you know,
00:34:56.89\00:34:59.13
you've put undue burdens on
people asking them to, you know,
00:34:59.13\00:35:04.17
carry legalistic
laws that you won't lift
00:35:05.27\00:35:07.10
with one of your fingers.
00:35:07.10\00:35:08.97
He healed a woman who was
bent over on the Sabbath day
00:35:08.97\00:35:12.01
and He said, "This
woman's been bound by the devil
00:35:12.01\00:35:14.81
for 18 years and you guys will
untie your ox and your donkey
00:35:14.81\00:35:18.71
and water them
on the Sabbath day,
00:35:18.71\00:35:20.62
or you'll milk
your goat or your cow.
00:35:20.62\00:35:22.38
Why wouldn't you want to
relieve the burden of this lady
00:35:22.38\00:35:25.39
on the Sabbath
day and and heal her?"
00:35:25.39\00:35:27.92
So I don't know if
that's answering your question,
00:35:27.92\00:35:31.13
but Aaron, hopefully
that helps a little bit.
00:35:31.13\00:35:34.13
- I think the
context of the whole concern
00:35:34.13\00:35:35.90
that Jeremiah has is
that there were those
00:35:35.90\00:35:37.83
who were bringing in
their goods into Jerusalem
00:35:37.83\00:35:39.97
on the Sabbath
to sell their goods.
00:35:39.97\00:35:42.04
And finally, you know,
the gates were eventually,
00:35:42.04\00:35:44.01
they had to be
closed a little later
00:35:44.01\00:35:45.67
when you read
about Ezra and Nehemiah.
00:35:45.67\00:35:47.24
So I think the point here
00:35:47.24\00:35:48.74
is just
conducting regular business.
00:35:48.74\00:35:51.21
Of course, in those days
they would go into the field.
00:35:51.21\00:35:53.78
They'd have to
gather up their grain.
00:35:53.78\00:35:55.35
They'd have to
carry it in into the city.
00:35:55.35\00:35:57.39
That's not an appropriate
work to do in the Sabbath.
00:35:57.39\00:35:59.29
- Right.
00:35:59.29\00:36:00.49
- All right.
Thank you for your call.
00:36:00.49\00:36:01.79
We've got Aaron now, also
Aaron listening from California.
00:36:01.79\00:36:04.76
Aaron, welcome to the program.
00:36:04.76\00:36:07.36
- [Aaron] Good evening.
00:36:07.36\00:36:08.43
Thank you so much
for taking my call.
00:36:08.43\00:36:09.46
- Yes.
00:36:09.46\00:36:11.10
- [Aaron]
Pastors, I had a question.
00:36:11.10\00:36:12.57
Recently, my wife
came across a video online
00:36:12.57\00:36:15.74
that had a person who,
it's a personal video they made.
00:36:15.74\00:36:20.81
And in the video
they sort of twisted,
00:36:21.84\00:36:24.08
I believe what they
did was twist the Scripture
00:36:25.21\00:36:28.18
because they
wanted to basically say
00:36:28.18\00:36:29.85
that because God created man
00:36:29.85\00:36:31.95
and God created
man, male and female,
00:36:31.95\00:36:34.89
and He created them in His image
00:36:34.89\00:36:36.66
that somehow that
means that God is non-binary.
00:36:36.66\00:36:40.26
And so, and I just was
curious what your thoughts are
00:36:40.26\00:36:44.33
as far as perhaps
maybe more specifically
00:36:44.33\00:36:46.80
what the Bible
might say in reference
00:36:46.80\00:36:48.70
to how man is
created in God's image.
00:36:48.70\00:36:52.47
- Well, I do think
the Bible teaches us,
00:36:52.47\00:36:56.11
of course, God is a Spirit,
00:36:56.11\00:36:57.21
That doesn't
mean God has no form.
00:36:57.21\00:36:59.85
The person of the Godhead
that might be difficult for us
00:36:59.85\00:37:03.18
to comprehend as far as the
form would be God the Spirit
00:37:03.18\00:37:06.32
who sometimes is
appearing as everything
00:37:06.32\00:37:09.29
from fire and
water to a dove and wind.
00:37:09.29\00:37:12.63
But when the Bible
talks about the visions
00:37:13.76\00:37:17.30
that the apostles saw,
Daniel and John and Ezekiel
00:37:18.60\00:37:22.64
and Isaiah, it talks
about God having hands,
00:37:23.71\00:37:26.71
head, feet, legs, it
says on Jesus' thigh.
00:37:26.71\00:37:30.51
And it portrays Him with,
00:37:30.51\00:37:33.18
I don't want to
say it portrays Him.
00:37:33.18\00:37:35.08
It's like telling a child,
your parents look like you.
00:37:35.08\00:37:38.05
Well no, they look
like their parents.
00:37:38.05\00:37:39.79
So you know, Jesus is portrayed
00:37:39.79\00:37:42.89
having these
features that we have.
00:37:42.89\00:37:44.56
We have them
because He has them.
00:37:44.56\00:37:46.16
So I think God
must have some form
00:37:46.16\00:37:49.63
because the other
thing is Jesus took humanity
00:37:49.63\00:37:51.93
and He's now gonna
bear that through eternity.
00:37:51.93\00:37:54.84
You know, He permanently
identified himself with
00:37:54.84\00:37:59.31
humanity, and even in
His resurrection form.
00:37:59.31\00:38:02.21
But to say that
God is non-binary,
00:38:03.58\00:38:05.81
someone is trying to
politicize or, you know,
00:38:05.81\00:38:09.62
get the nature of God caught up
00:38:11.02\00:38:12.65
in some of the
cultural issues today,
00:38:12.65\00:38:14.42
and that's a
sensational stretch.
00:38:14.42\00:38:17.23
God is consistently referred
to as our Father in the Bible,
00:38:18.59\00:38:23.20
but I don't
believe that He has gender
00:38:24.30\00:38:26.07
in the sense that we do
00:38:26.07\00:38:27.14
so it's silly to
try and classify Him
00:38:27.14\00:38:29.04
as male, female, or even binary.
00:38:29.04\00:38:31.77
Anyway, so hopefully
that helps a little, Aaron,
00:38:33.11\00:38:35.51
and appreciate your question.
00:38:35.51\00:38:37.08
- Next caller that we have
is Armando in North Carolina.
00:38:37.08\00:38:40.55
Armando, welcome to the program.
00:38:40.55\00:38:43.02
- [Armando] Pastor
John, Pastor Jean Ross,
00:38:43.02\00:38:45.19
and Pastor Doug
Batchelor, how are you guys?
00:38:45.19\00:38:47.26
- We're thankful
to be here. - Good.
00:38:47.26\00:38:49.86
- [Armando] Thank
you guys for having me.
00:38:49.86\00:38:53.70
My question is
regarding Judges 13
00:38:53.70\00:38:57.03
when the angel of the Lord comes
00:38:57.03\00:38:59.00
to speak to the wife of Manoah.
00:38:59.00\00:39:02.07
And I think in
verses four and five,
00:39:02.07\00:39:05.14
the angel of the Lord starts
to, I guess, specify that the,
00:39:06.51\00:39:10.98
I guess the vow will
be taken on by the mother,
00:39:13.38\00:39:15.32
but then essentially Samson
will have the Nazirite vow.
00:39:15.32\00:39:19.12
I just wanted to see if
that's the case with Sampson
00:39:19.12\00:39:23.69
taking on the Nazirite vow.
00:39:23.69\00:39:25.06
I have a couple footnotes in
a couple Bibles that indicate
00:39:25.06\00:39:27.86
that the Nazirite
vow is in Numbers 6.
00:39:27.86\00:39:31.07
- [Doug] Yes.
00:39:32.27\00:39:33.64
- [Armando] And then I
just had a follow-up question.
00:39:33.64\00:39:35.57
If that was the
case, how was Samson able
00:39:35.57\00:39:38.07
to carry on the vow whenever
he would sin or, you know,
00:39:38.07\00:39:42.74
kill a body when he
was against the army?
00:39:44.28\00:39:47.32
- [Doug] Yeah.
00:39:47.32\00:39:48.55
- It's specific
in Numbers about-
00:39:50.89\00:39:53.29
- [Doug] Right. -
With a dead body and...
00:39:53.29\00:39:55.02
- Well let's just be honest,
00:39:55.02\00:39:58.16
Samson did a pretty terrible job
00:39:58.16\00:40:00.63
of keeping the
vow of a nazirite.
00:40:00.63\00:40:02.93
His parents did their best
during the gestation of the baby
00:40:02.93\00:40:08.00
and in his raising to convince
him that he was special.
00:40:09.30\00:40:12.11
God had a special plan for him.
He had taken a nazirite vow.
00:40:12.11\00:40:15.08
But he seems to be rebelling
against that during his life.
00:40:15.08\00:40:18.75
He wasn't supposed to drink
wine, but it seems like he did.
00:40:18.75\00:40:22.05
He wasn't supposed
to touch a dead body,
00:40:22.05\00:40:23.92
but we know that he did.
00:40:23.92\00:40:25.05
I mean, he killed a
lion and ate honey out of it.
00:40:25.05\00:40:27.56
And he picked up the jawbone
of a donkey and slew 1,000 men.
00:40:27.56\00:40:31.26
And then he went and
stayed with a harlot in Gaza,
00:40:31.26\00:40:33.80
which is obviously
breaking the Nazirite vow.
00:40:33.80\00:40:36.87
And finally his
hair not being cut.
00:40:36.87\00:40:39.10
And he betrays that secret
and God says, enough's enough,
00:40:39.10\00:40:42.20
you know and He was
very patient with him.
00:40:42.20\00:40:43.91
But yeah, Samson, he
didn't do a very good job
00:40:43.91\00:40:48.31
in following that vow.
00:40:48.31\00:40:49.71
His parents had
sort of consecrated him.
00:40:49.71\00:40:51.75
Now conversely, you have
Hannah, you got Manoah's wife
00:40:51.75\00:40:56.22
who tries their best to
raise Samson to follow the vow,
00:40:57.65\00:40:59.59
and he rebels against it.
00:40:59.59\00:41:01.22
You have Hannah who makes
the nazirite vow for Samuel.
00:41:01.22\00:41:05.23
Samuel keeps it,
and he is consecrated
00:41:05.23\00:41:08.83
through his life
to the Lord that way.
00:41:08.83\00:41:11.63
So you're right,
those nazirite vows
00:41:11.63\00:41:14.80
in Numbers there
are pretty definitive.
00:41:14.80\00:41:18.11
- All right,
thanks for your call.
00:41:19.14\00:41:20.48
We got Maggie
listening in Washington.
00:41:20.48\00:41:22.11
Maggie, welcome to the program.
00:41:22.11\00:41:24.55
- [Maggie] Good
evening, gentlemen.
00:41:24.55\00:41:25.81
First I wanna just tell you
00:41:25.81\00:41:27.65
that I pray for both
of you daily that the Lord
00:41:27.65\00:41:30.12
should put a hedge
about you for your protection.
00:41:30.12\00:41:34.22
Yeah, my question
is- - Well, thank you.
00:41:34.22\00:41:35.96
- [Maggie] Are the 24 elders
in the Book of Revelation,
00:41:35.96\00:41:39.03
are they the saints
that Matthew 27:52 mentions
00:41:39.03\00:41:42.96
after Jesus's Resurrection?
00:41:44.00\00:41:46.27
- Well, that's
another one of those verses,
00:41:46.27\00:41:48.04
and I'll also have
Pastor Ross weigh in on this.
00:41:48.04\00:41:50.57
The question is, when it
says there's these 24 elders,
00:41:50.57\00:41:54.78
how'd they get to Heaven?
00:41:54.78\00:41:56.24
Are they some of the
saints resurrected there
00:41:56.24\00:41:58.88
in the end of Matthew?
00:41:58.88\00:42:00.98
Or are they the
leaders of unfallen worlds?
00:42:00.98\00:42:05.29
Now, I'm more
inclined to go with the latter.
00:42:05.29\00:42:07.82
You can read that,
that says there was a day
00:42:07.82\00:42:10.43
when the sons of
God's came together
00:42:10.43\00:42:12.43
before the Lord in Heaven.
00:42:12.43\00:42:14.10
And you wonder, who
are these sons of God?
00:42:14.10\00:42:16.46
Well, when Luke goes through
the genealogy of humanity,
00:42:16.46\00:42:20.17
it talks about Enos
who is the son of Seth
00:42:20.17\00:42:23.17
who is the son of
Adam who is the son of God.
00:42:23.17\00:42:26.01
So Adam is called the son of God
00:42:26.01\00:42:28.41
'cause he is
created, he isn't born.
00:42:28.41\00:42:30.85
And these are the leaders,
we believe, of unfallen worlds.
00:42:30.85\00:42:35.28
And in the same way
that God has got 24 leaders
00:42:35.28\00:42:39.52
in the Old
Testament in Chronicles,
00:42:39.52\00:42:41.46
you read about 24
leaders both militarily
00:42:41.46\00:42:44.29
and in the sanctuary.
00:42:44.29\00:42:46.56
That's 12 for the
day and 12 for the night,
00:42:46.56\00:42:48.60
or 12 for a half of the year.
00:42:48.60\00:42:50.13
God divided 'em differently.
00:42:50.13\00:42:51.33
And Jesus has 12 apostles.
00:42:51.33\00:42:52.57
12 of course is,
two times 12 is 24.
00:42:52.57\00:42:55.67
These are like leaders
of God's unfallen universe
00:42:55.67\00:42:59.94
is one theory I've heard.
00:42:59.94\00:43:01.34
And some believe
they're the resurrected saints.
00:43:01.34\00:43:04.58
What are your thoughts?
00:43:04.58\00:43:05.38
- Yeah, that's a good question.
00:43:05.38\00:43:06.72
You know, there is a verse
actually in the Old Testament.
00:43:06.72\00:43:09.05
It talks about the
elders, Isaiah 24:23.
00:43:09.05\00:43:12.55
It says, "The Lord shall reign
00:43:12.55\00:43:13.76
before His elders gloriously."
00:43:13.76\00:43:16.16
Now, that's the Old Testament.
00:43:16.16\00:43:17.53
Of course you have
those who are resurrected
00:43:17.53\00:43:19.59
the time of
Christ's Resurrection.
00:43:19.59\00:43:21.26
But then you also
have in the Book of Job
00:43:21.26\00:43:22.73
it talks about the
sons of God or, you know,
00:43:22.73\00:43:25.40
these representatives
of these unfallen worlds.
00:43:25.40\00:43:27.27
- Morning stars sing
together. - That's right.
00:43:27.27\00:43:29.20
And the devil came
representing Earth.
00:43:29.20\00:43:31.17
So this was not a meeting
that took place on the Earth,
00:43:31.17\00:43:34.11
it was somewhere else and
you have these representatives.
00:43:34.11\00:43:35.78
So you know, if you
look at the chronology
00:43:35.78\00:43:38.81
that's given in Revelation 4,
00:43:38.81\00:43:41.02
you have a description
of the heavenly throne room.
00:43:41.02\00:43:42.82
God the Father is
seated upon the throne
00:43:42.82\00:43:44.35
and talks about the
fall of living creatures.
00:43:44.35\00:43:46.09
And it mentions
there the 24 elders,
00:43:46.09\00:43:47.76
but it's not until
you get to chapter five
00:43:47.76\00:43:50.23
that you see
Jesus, that He appears.
00:43:50.23\00:43:52.73
So it's as if Revelation 4
00:43:52.73\00:43:54.56
describes Heaven
before Christ comes.
00:43:54.56\00:43:57.00
And well, we know
those who are resurrected
00:43:57.00\00:43:59.63
at the time of
Christ's Resurrection,
00:43:59.63\00:44:01.07
they were taken
to Heaven with Jesus.
00:44:01.07\00:44:03.47
It would seem that the 24
elders are already in Heaven
00:44:03.47\00:44:07.18
before Jesus and
those who are resurrected
00:44:07.18\00:44:09.18
actually get to Heaven. - Yep.
00:44:09.18\00:44:10.88
- So that gives the
idea that the 24 elders
00:44:10.88\00:44:12.41
would be something more than
just those who are resurrected.
00:44:12.41\00:44:15.48
It's the other group
would be the representatives
00:44:15.48\00:44:17.25
of the unfallen worlds.
00:44:17.25\00:44:18.65
- So I appreciate that. Hope
that helps a little, Maggie.
00:44:18.65\00:44:21.59
And we do have a new Revelation
magazine that you can read.
00:44:21.59\00:44:26.66
It's Revelation, or sorry,
Amazing Facts has a magazine
00:44:28.00\00:44:29.83
on Daniel and Revelation.
00:44:29.83\00:44:31.43
You can find that
at the AF Bookstore.
00:44:31.43\00:44:34.37
That's Amazing Facts Bookstore.
You'll see that there.
00:44:34.37\00:44:36.47
- Next caller
that we have is Angela,
00:44:36.47\00:44:38.07
and she's listening in Illinois.
00:44:38.07\00:44:39.94
She's on the road.
Angela, welcome to the program.
00:44:39.94\00:44:43.45
- [Angela] Hi,
I have a question,
00:44:43.45\00:44:45.28
and I think it may be
Amos 4, but I'm not sure.
00:44:45.28\00:44:49.88
- Okay.
00:44:49.88\00:44:51.19
- [Angela] It says that we
should not be wanting to hasten
00:44:51.19\00:44:53.49
the day of the Lord because
it will be a day of great...
00:44:53.49\00:44:58.23
- Yeah, yeah. Why do you
pray for the day of the Lord?
00:44:59.53\00:45:01.40
It'll be a day of distress
and a day of punishment.
00:45:01.40\00:45:04.70
- [Angela] Right. - Yeah.
00:45:04.70\00:45:06.07
- [Angela] And when you
put your hand on the wall
00:45:06.07\00:45:07.97
to steady yourself, and
you'll be bitten by a snake
00:45:07.97\00:45:10.47
and things like that
so... - Yes. (laughs)
00:45:10.47\00:45:13.61
And a serpent
will bite you, yeah.
00:45:13.61\00:45:16.61
I'm looking it up right now.
00:45:16.61\00:45:19.01
Yeah, that's, here
it is. It's Amos 5:19.
00:45:20.58\00:45:24.22
It says, "It will be."
00:45:24.22\00:45:25.89
Well, I can actually
back up. It'll be here.
00:45:25.89\00:45:27.99
It says, "Woe to those who
desire the day of the Lord."
00:45:27.99\00:45:30.16
This is Amos 5:18.
00:45:30.16\00:45:32.03
"Woe to you who
desire the day of the Lord
00:45:32.03\00:45:34.10
for what good is the
day of the Lord to you?"
00:45:34.10\00:45:36.20
He's talking about the wicked.
00:45:36.20\00:45:37.30
Why would you want
the day of the Lord?
00:45:37.30\00:45:38.30
It's a day of
darkness and no light.
00:45:38.30\00:45:40.40
"It will be as though
a man fled from a lion
00:45:40.40\00:45:42.74
and a bear met him."
00:45:42.74\00:45:44.04
That's bad luck.
00:45:44.04\00:45:45.44
"Or though he went into
the house running for his life,
00:45:45.44\00:45:48.01
leans on the wall
and a serpent bit him."
00:45:48.01\00:45:50.71
In other words, he's saying
you can run but you can't hide.
00:45:50.71\00:45:54.12
No matter where you go,
calamity is gonna follow you
00:45:54.12\00:45:56.05
because it's a judgment.
00:45:56.05\00:45:58.05
The day of the Lord
is the day of judgment
00:45:58.05\00:45:59.59
for those who have
neglected the opportunity
00:45:59.59\00:46:01.89
to have their sins forgiven
00:46:01.89\00:46:03.46
and to know the Lord and
be surrendered to the Lord.
00:46:03.46\00:46:06.43
The Second Coming is
a nightmare for them.
00:46:06.43\00:46:09.76
It's judgment.
Probation's closed.
00:46:09.76\00:46:11.67
- Absolutely, you
look in Revelation 6,
00:46:11.67\00:46:13.23
right up at the
Second Coming of Christ,
00:46:13.23\00:46:14.87
the wicked turned to
the rocks and the mountains
00:46:14.87\00:46:16.54
and they say, "Fall on
us and hide us from the face
00:46:16.54\00:46:19.24
of Him sits upon throne
from the wrath of the Lamb."
00:46:19.24\00:46:21.48
So it's not a day of
rejoicing for the wicked.
00:46:21.48\00:46:24.11
It is a day of
rejoicing for the saved,
00:46:24.11\00:46:25.78
for the righteous,
but not for the wicked.
00:46:25.78\00:46:27.62
- They will say,
"This is the Lord.
00:46:27.62\00:46:28.95
We have waited for
Him and He will save us."
00:46:28.95\00:46:30.82
And the wicked will cast
their idols of gold and silver
00:46:30.82\00:46:34.02
to the rats and
the bats and the moles.
00:46:34.02\00:46:35.72
And so you've got this
contrast of your butterflies
00:46:35.72\00:46:38.36
and your
cockroaches when the Lord comes.
00:46:38.36\00:46:40.30
Some go to the light and
some run from the light, yeah.
00:46:40.30\00:46:44.83
Thank you, appreciate that.
00:46:44.83\00:46:46.40
- We got Jeremiah
listening in Texas.
00:46:46.40\00:46:48.30
Jeremiah,
welcome to the program.
00:46:48.30\00:46:51.14
- [Jeremiah] Thank
you for having me, Pastor.
00:46:51.14\00:46:54.01
- Yeah, and we're glad
to have you. Your question.
00:46:54.01\00:46:57.25
- [Jeremiah] And my
question is, it's about fasting.
00:46:57.25\00:47:00.68
'Cause I see in the
Bible it seems fasting has...
00:47:00.68\00:47:04.82
Like for God, it seems to
elicit extra attention from God
00:47:06.69\00:47:11.59
when we add fasting to prayer.
00:47:11.59\00:47:14.13
And I came across this
verse in 1 Samuel 15:22
00:47:15.23\00:47:18.93
where Samuel says, "Has
the Lord as great delight
00:47:22.60\00:47:26.14
in burnt
offerings and sacrifices,
00:47:26.14\00:47:28.74
as in obeying the
voice of the Lord?
00:47:28.74\00:47:31.75
Behold, to obey is
better than sacrifice,
00:47:31.75\00:47:34.88
and to heed than
the fat of rams."
00:47:34.88\00:47:38.12
So what I was wondering is,
00:47:38.12\00:47:40.42
if there is some
area of sin in your life,
00:47:41.52\00:47:45.33
can that interfere with
the pledge you are fasting for?
00:47:45.33\00:47:49.93
- Well, I think
that when you decide
00:47:51.73\00:47:55.17
to fast and pray
and reach out to God,
00:47:55.17\00:47:57.41
that should involve a
willingness for total surrender.
00:47:57.41\00:48:02.28
And if you've got
some area in your life
00:48:02.28\00:48:04.75
that you know is in rebellion,
00:48:04.75\00:48:07.12
that ought to be part of
your fasting and your praying.
00:48:07.12\00:48:10.49
So if you're saying, "Oh
Lord, I've got this sickness
00:48:10.49\00:48:14.02
and that I want to be healed,"
00:48:14.02\00:48:15.96
but you know
you're living in sin,
00:48:15.96\00:48:17.89
well, why do you
want to be healed?
00:48:17.89\00:48:19.83
So you get sick and die forever?
00:48:19.83\00:48:21.50
Why don't you say, "Lord,
I want to be healed of sin
00:48:21.50\00:48:24.47
and then I've got eternal life."
00:48:24.47\00:48:26.10
And then the physical
healing is a small matter.
00:48:26.10\00:48:28.67
So you always want
to have your priorities.
00:48:28.67\00:48:32.01
The worst thing that
could happen to anyone
00:48:32.01\00:48:34.21
is to be living in sin,
still be a captor to the devil
00:48:34.21\00:48:37.35
because that's the
first thing you ought
00:48:37.35\00:48:40.05
to be fasting and praying for.
00:48:40.05\00:48:42.18
And even when we do
an anointing for somebody
00:48:42.18\00:48:46.39
it talks about, and if
they've committed sins,
00:48:46.39\00:48:48.22
they'll be forgiven.
00:48:48.22\00:48:49.52
It's understood when
you're praying for healing
00:48:49.52\00:48:50.83
that there's some time
spent in personal repentance
00:48:50.83\00:48:54.36
and getting
yourself right with God
00:48:54.36\00:48:55.86
if you're gonna fast and pray.
00:48:55.86\00:48:57.27
- And you know, you got the
parable of the tax collector
00:48:57.27\00:48:59.47
and the Pharisee who
went to the temple to pray
00:48:59.47\00:49:01.77
and the Pharisee said, "Well,
I fast twice a week, you know,
00:49:01.77\00:49:04.64
and I give my tithe and I
do all of these good deeds."
00:49:04.64\00:49:07.08
And in reality his
fasting didn't mean anything
00:49:07.08\00:49:09.34
because he was
filled with pride.
00:49:09.34\00:49:10.88
Whereas, you know, the
tax collector, he wept,
00:49:10.88\00:49:14.72
beat upon his breasts and said,
00:49:14.72\00:49:16.18
"Lord, be merciful
unto me, a sinner."
00:49:16.18\00:49:17.99
And Jesus says he's the
one that went home justified.
00:49:17.99\00:49:20.69
So fasting has a
lot to do with attitude.
00:49:20.69\00:49:22.99
It's not just
abstaining from food,
00:49:22.99\00:49:24.69
but it's abstaining from
food for the right reason.
00:49:24.69\00:49:27.00
Seeking God,
wanting to gain victory.
00:49:27.00\00:49:29.83
- Yep, so hopefully
that helps a little, Jeremy.
00:49:29.83\00:49:32.47
We appreciate your call.
00:49:32.47\00:49:34.07
- Next one on
the- - Or Jeremiah.
00:49:34.07\00:49:35.37
- Is Richard in New York.
Richard, welcome to the program.
00:49:35.37\00:49:38.67
- [Richard] Good
evening, Pastors.
00:49:38.67\00:49:40.08
Thank you for
having me on tonight.
00:49:40.08\00:49:42.38
- Well, thank
you. And your question.
00:49:42.38\00:49:46.21
- [Richard] Yes, my question
is that I would like to know,
00:49:46.21\00:49:50.29
does God have a true
Church on this Earth?
00:49:50.29\00:49:53.86
And should we as Christians
be concerned with denominations?
00:49:53.86\00:49:58.06
- Okay, great question.
00:49:58.06\00:49:59.09
I will answer your
question with a question
00:49:59.09\00:50:01.93
in that in the Old Testament,
did God have a nation,
00:50:01.93\00:50:06.07
a particular
nation that He called
00:50:06.07\00:50:08.27
and to make them the guardians
of His oracles of truth?
00:50:08.27\00:50:13.34
That's a rhetorical question
'cause the answer is yes.
00:50:14.71\00:50:16.01
He clearly called
Abraham and his descendants.
00:50:16.01\00:50:18.21
Now, does that mean they
were better than other nations?
00:50:18.21\00:50:21.55
Does that mean every
Jew is automatically saved?
00:50:21.55\00:50:24.32
No, Jews were like other people.
00:50:24.32\00:50:25.82
There were good ones
and there were bad ones,
00:50:25.82\00:50:27.66
and some were
faithful, some were not.
00:50:27.66\00:50:30.76
The early Church, you've
got some of the Jewish people
00:50:30.76\00:50:33.70
that condemn Jesus, and
the early Church is formed
00:50:33.70\00:50:36.63
of Jewish people
like the apostles.
00:50:36.63\00:50:39.17
So does God have a movement now?
00:50:39.17\00:50:42.57
When you get into the last days,
is there a remnant movement
00:50:42.57\00:50:45.54
that He has that
He has made a guardian
00:50:45.54\00:50:49.51
of the oracles of truth?
00:50:49.51\00:50:51.55
I believe the answer is yes.
00:50:51.55\00:50:53.38
You know, obviously
if there are hundreds
00:50:53.38\00:50:55.92
of different denominations
that call themselves Christians,
00:50:55.92\00:50:58.55
and I believe
there are saved people
00:50:58.55\00:51:00.22
in many different churches.
00:51:00.22\00:51:01.76
In the days of Israel,
God still had faithful people
00:51:01.76\00:51:04.16
that weren't even Israelites.
00:51:04.16\00:51:05.73
Bible says that, you know,
00:51:05.73\00:51:07.03
God spoke through
Moses's father-in-law, Jethro.
00:51:07.03\00:51:10.93
He was not an Israelite.
00:51:10.93\00:51:12.13
He spoke through
Naaman. Naaman was saved.
00:51:12.13\00:51:15.04
And Elijah was sent
to the Canaanite woman.
00:51:15.04\00:51:17.21
And you know,
God had His people.
00:51:17.21\00:51:20.01
But He still had a
nation, a group that He used
00:51:21.61\00:51:24.88
and then He organized them
00:51:24.88\00:51:26.55
in a special way
in the Old Testament.
00:51:26.55\00:51:28.32
God has an organized
work in the New Testament.
00:51:28.32\00:51:31.79
With all these
different denominations,
00:51:31.79\00:51:33.96
we know that some
are gonna be closer
00:51:33.96\00:51:36.93
to the Bible than others.
00:51:36.93\00:51:38.33
Some, I think we would agree,
are pretty far from the Bible.
00:51:38.33\00:51:40.93
That means some are
gonna be closer to the Bible.
00:51:40.93\00:51:42.70
You want to find the one that
is the closest to the Bible.
00:51:42.70\00:51:46.33
- You know, we
have a study guide
00:51:46.33\00:51:47.47
called "The Bride of Christ."
00:51:47.47\00:51:49.00
And in the New Testament,
the Church, the true Church,
00:51:49.00\00:51:50.97
it's described as
the bride of Christ.
00:51:50.97\00:51:52.84
So what does the Bible say?
00:51:52.84\00:51:54.38
What are we to look for if
we're looking for a church?
00:51:54.38\00:51:57.38
We'll be happy to
send the study guide
00:51:57.38\00:51:58.91
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:51:58.91\00:52:00.35
Just ask for the study guide.
00:52:00.35\00:52:01.45
It's called "The
Bride of Christ,"
00:52:01.45\00:52:03.12
and we'll be happy to send
it to anyone in North America.
00:52:03.12\00:52:05.05
The number is 800-835-6747.
00:52:05.05\00:52:07.36
That is our resource
phone line. Just call and ask.
00:52:08.72\00:52:11.39
We'll send you the study
guide, "The Bridge of Christ."
00:52:11.39\00:52:14.30
Next caller that
we have is, let's see,
00:52:14.30\00:52:15.93
we've got JC
listening in California.
00:52:15.93\00:52:18.33
JC, welcome to the program.
00:52:18.33\00:52:20.87
- [JC] Thank you very much.
00:52:20.87\00:52:21.87
Good evening. -
Yeah, good evening.
00:52:21.87\00:52:23.47
- [JC] My question is
regarding the staff of Moses.
00:52:23.47\00:52:26.81
It's first mentioned
in the Book of Exodus 4:2,
00:52:26.81\00:52:30.78
but not much
information after that.
00:52:31.81\00:52:34.38
So where would, please tell me,
00:52:34.38\00:52:36.99
enlighten me more
information you might have.
00:52:36.99\00:52:39.25
- Yeah, yeah, the shepherds,
and Moses was a shepherd,
00:52:39.25\00:52:42.59
and the nation of Israel
were a nation of shepherds.
00:52:42.59\00:52:45.53
Even when Joseph
went, you know, Jacob said,
00:52:45.53\00:52:48.93
you know, "We're a
nation of shepherds,"
00:52:48.93\00:52:50.40
which was largely an
abomination to the Egyptians.
00:52:50.40\00:52:52.77
Shepherds all had a rod.
00:52:52.77\00:52:54.84
The patriarchs of every
family sort of had a rod
00:52:54.84\00:52:57.51
and they might be engraved.
00:52:57.51\00:52:58.91
There was some way of
distinguishing them from others
00:52:58.91\00:53:01.78
because there was one
time when there was a challenge
00:53:01.78\00:53:04.85
against Moses and
Aaron and God said,
00:53:04.85\00:53:06.51
"Tell the elders of
Israel to take their rods."
00:53:06.51\00:53:08.98
They all had a distinctive rod
00:53:08.98\00:53:10.72
and an insignia on
it and they were carved.
00:53:10.72\00:53:12.92
Put 'em before the Lord
and God is gonna show you
00:53:12.92\00:53:15.99
who among the elders He
accepts, and it was Aaron's rod.
00:53:15.99\00:53:20.20
It starts out here in Exodus
4 talking about Moses' rod.
00:53:20.20\00:53:23.50
But you go later on, it
often calls it Aaron's rod
00:53:23.50\00:53:26.74
'cause Aaron was
the older brother.
00:53:26.74\00:53:28.24
And it seemed like that
that terminology shifted
00:53:28.24\00:53:31.27
once Aaron got into Egypt.
00:53:31.27\00:53:33.07
But so a rod represented
the authority of the family.
00:53:33.07\00:53:37.98
- And rulership, so
we also find that Jesus
00:53:37.98\00:53:40.22
is said to have a rod, and
Revelation talks about Christ
00:53:40.22\00:53:43.62
coming with a rod of iron,
00:53:43.62\00:53:46.05
meaning He's gonna
execute judgment upon the wicked
00:53:46.05\00:53:48.39
at the Second Coming of Christ.
00:53:48.39\00:53:49.72
So rods or the rod
has symbolic significance
00:53:49.72\00:53:52.96
in the Bible as well.
00:53:52.96\00:53:54.23
- Yeah, it says they're
shattered as a potter's vessel
00:53:54.23\00:53:57.80
when He comes with the rod.
00:53:57.80\00:53:59.20
And so yeah,
it's a symbol of that.
00:53:59.20\00:54:01.34
So hopefully that helps a little
bit and we appreciate that.
00:54:01.34\00:54:05.81
I'm looking at the clock.
00:54:05.81\00:54:06.91
I tell you what,
listening friends,
00:54:06.91\00:54:08.38
we do something unusual here.
00:54:08.38\00:54:10.81
Because this radio program
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00:54:10.81\00:54:14.28
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00:54:14.28\00:54:17.62
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00:54:17.62\00:54:19.25
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00:54:19.25\00:54:21.22
In just a moment, we're
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00:54:21.22\00:54:24.03
to those who are
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00:54:24.03\00:54:26.53
But we stay on and we take
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00:54:26.53\00:54:30.53
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00:54:30.53\00:54:32.40
Now, if someone wants to
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00:54:32.40\00:54:34.57
Pastor Ross, what's
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00:54:34.57\00:54:36.64
- All you have to do
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00:54:36.64\00:54:38.54
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00:54:42.14\00:54:44.41
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00:54:44.41\00:54:46.72
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00:54:46.72\00:54:48.72
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00:54:48.72\00:54:50.75
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00:54:50.75\00:54:52.92
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00:54:52.92\00:54:55.29
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00:54:55.29\00:54:57.09
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00:54:59.03\00:55:00.16
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00:55:00.16\00:55:02.13
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00:55:02.13\00:55:04.03
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00:55:04.03\00:55:07.40
Keep in tune and God willing
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00:55:07.40\00:55:11.87
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- Hello friends. Welcome
back to "Bible Answers Live."
00:55:30.09\00:55:32.79
And as we
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00:55:32.79\00:55:34.20
this is the time where
we take your Bible questions
00:55:34.20\00:55:36.23
that you've emailed to
us here at Amazing Facts.
00:55:36.23\00:55:39.33
So Pastor, we have a number
of great questions this evening
00:55:39.33\00:55:41.74
so I'm gonna get right to it.
00:55:41.74\00:55:43.07
The first question is,
00:55:43.07\00:55:44.44
"Why is God going to restore
the Earth into a paradise
00:55:44.44\00:55:46.71
if everyone is going to
Heaven when Jesus comes?"
00:55:46.71\00:55:50.11
- Yeah, well, we
don't go up forever.
00:55:50.11\00:55:52.51
He first takes us up and
we live and reign with Christ
00:55:52.51\00:55:55.72
1,000 years in Heaven,
which is the up dwelling place
00:55:55.72\00:56:00.46
of God where He is now.
00:56:00.46\00:56:01.49
So first we go to Him.
00:56:01.49\00:56:03.26
He says, "In my Father's
house are many mansions.
00:56:03.26\00:56:05.63
I go to prepare a place for you.
00:56:05.63\00:56:07.60
If I go, I will
receive you unto Myself.
00:56:07.60\00:56:09.86
That where I am, that
place in Heaven, we will be."
00:56:09.86\00:56:13.47
But you read in Revelation 21,
00:56:13.47\00:56:15.37
at the end of that 1,000 years,
00:56:15.37\00:56:17.01
the new Jerusalem
descends from God out of Heaven,
00:56:17.01\00:56:19.44
comes down to Earth.
00:56:19.44\00:56:20.84
God creates a new
Heaven and a new Earth.
00:56:20.84\00:56:23.24
And the Bible says,
"Blessed are the meek,
00:56:23.24\00:56:24.95
they will inherit the Earth."
00:56:24.95\00:56:26.82
So ultimately, we build
houses and we inhabit them.
00:56:26.82\00:56:29.75
We have mansions in the
city. We live in this world.
00:56:29.75\00:56:32.02
God fulfills His original plan.
00:56:32.02\00:56:34.09
- All right,
question number two.
00:56:34.09\00:56:35.39
It says, "I know that the
sacrificial goat in Leviticus 16
00:56:35.39\00:56:38.59
represents Christ,
but can you explain
00:56:38.59\00:56:40.33
who the scapegoat represents?"
00:56:40.33\00:56:42.13
- Yeah, on the day of Atonement,
00:56:42.13\00:56:43.60
there were two
goats that were chosen.
00:56:43.60\00:56:46.37
One was called the Lord's
goat, and it is sacrificed.
00:56:46.37\00:56:48.77
It represents the Lord.
00:56:48.77\00:56:49.87
It dies for sin.
Its blood is applied.
00:56:49.87\00:56:52.31
The other goat, they
used to transfer the guilt
00:56:52.31\00:56:55.31
of the nation to this goat.
00:56:55.31\00:56:56.75
It was carried
off in the wilderness.
00:56:56.75\00:56:58.38
It was banished forever.
00:56:58.38\00:57:00.08
And they
understand that represents
00:57:00.08\00:57:03.22
sort of the eternal
separation from the devil
00:57:03.22\00:57:06.59
and sin of God's people.
00:57:06.59\00:57:08.56
That scapegoat is the one,
00:57:08.56\00:57:10.56
it's not the sin bearer
the sense that Christ is.
00:57:10.56\00:57:13.63
This is the devil paying for
his own sins he's instigated.
00:57:13.63\00:57:16.50
- That's right, and the
scapegoat was never sacrificed.
00:57:16.50\00:57:18.17
- No, no bloodshed,
and it's banished forever.
00:57:18.17\00:57:21.20
- Next question that we
have, "How long did Adam and Eve
00:57:21.20\00:57:23.14
live in the Garden of
Eden before they sinned?"
00:57:23.14\00:57:25.37
- You just do a little
speculation, and if the last
00:57:25.37\00:57:27.91
command of God after
everything's perfect,
00:57:27.91\00:57:30.08
He says, "Be
fruitful and multiply."
00:57:30.08\00:57:31.95
They are perfectly healthy,
00:57:31.95\00:57:34.25
but sin happens
before they procreate.
00:57:35.28\00:57:38.59
So we're assuming
that it wasn't very long,
00:57:38.59\00:57:41.62
probably a matter of
weeks or months the devil,
00:57:41.62\00:57:45.33
he sent a
blitzkrieg and attacked them,
00:57:45.33\00:57:47.86
caught 'em off guard
shortly after creation.
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- All right, last question.
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"What is the difference
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between the old
and the New Covenant?"
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- Well, that's a big
question for a short one.
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Well, when you take your
Bible and you split it in two,
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you get the New
Testament or New Covenant
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is talking about when
Jesus actually did come.
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The Old Covenant is
the law written on stone.
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The New Covenant is the
law written on our hearts.
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Hey, thank you so
much, friends. God bless.
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Keep us in your prayers,
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and we appreciate your
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We are faith-based.
Study together again next week.
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