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Now here's your host from
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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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- Hello friends.
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Would you like to
hear an amazing fact?
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On June 23rd, 2022,
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Amazon revealed an
experimental Alexa feature
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that allows the AI
assistant to mimic the voices
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of the user's dead relatives.
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The company
demonstrated the feature
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at its annual MARS conference,
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showing a video in which
a child is seen asking Alexa
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to read the "Wizard of Oz".
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And then you hear a
unique voice we later learn
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is his deceased grandmother
reading the book to him
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with a natural
warmth and inflection.
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Amazon said, "Its
AI systems can learn
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to imitate someone's voice
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from just a single
minute of recorded audio."
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In an age of abundant
videos and voice notes,
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this means it's well within
the average consumer's reach
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to clone the voices of
deceased parents, spouses,
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or friends to
create new messages.
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I can understand people
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wanting to remember
their loved ones, Pastor Ross,
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but this could
get a little creepy,
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'cause I think
people already think
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that the dead are
communicating with them.
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- That's right, Pastor Doug.
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It's interesting, you know,
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when you get a phone
call and you answer the phone,
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you could, for the most part,
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tell who's calling you
by the sound of their voice,
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especially
somebody you know well.
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You don't have to ask
or look at the call ID
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to see who this is.
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We connect the sound of a
person's voice with who they
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are, their personality and
you know, it's not a new thing,
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but even the
Bible speaks of people
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wanting to communicate
with a dead loved one.
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Now maybe they
wanna see the person,
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but for sure they want
to hear this dead loved one
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communicate to them.
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That's not only
something we find in the Bible,
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but I think most
of our listeners know
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that there is just
an increased interest
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in communicating with the dead.
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- Yeah and the Bible
forgives or forbids rather,
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what it calls necromancy,
are trying, a medium,
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someone who tries to
communicate with a dead,
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and you can read
in Ecclesiastes 9:5.
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"So the living
know that they'll die,
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but the dead do
not know anything."
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And so, and you can read here,
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there it is on the screen for
those watching the TV program,
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"Neither have
they anymore a reward
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for the memory of
them is forgotten."
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And verse six goes on to say,
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"For their love, their hatred,
their envy is now perished.
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Neither have they any
more a portion forever
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in anything that is
done under the sun."
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Under the sun,
meaning in this life.
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Now where a lot of
people get confused.
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We know that
when a believer dies,
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their next conscious
thought is the resurrection
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and the presence of the Lord.
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But that doesn't happen
till the coming of the Lord.
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For them it's
instant, it feels instant,
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but the dead
haven't gone to heaven
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until there's a resurrection.
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The judgment hasn't happened
yet and that's still future.
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So this idea that we can
communicate with the dead
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is a great fallacy.
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And I'm surprised how
many Christians believe
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that they're getting
messages from the dead
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and this is spiritism really.
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- Now somebody
might be wondering,
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"Well, what's the big deal?
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So what if you
think your dead loved one
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is speaking to you?"
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Well, we do know
that the Bible tells us
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that at the end of time,
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the devil's gonna do
everything he can to deceive.
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And one of the
deceptions of the devil
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is going to be
impersonating dead loved ones
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to lead people astray.
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The Bible says. "That the devil
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is able to perform
signs and wonders."
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And especially
at the end of time,
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there are these evil spirits
that are going around the world
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and they're
trying to deceive people.
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So if a dead loved one shows up
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and they communicating
something and they say,
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"Oh, this is, you
know, a message from heaven."
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And if a person
doesn't understand
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what happens when
a person really dies,
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well they setting
themselves up for deception.
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- Yeah and especially if
something is gonna contradict
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what you find in the
Bible, it's dangerous.
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And this has
happened before as well.
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Well, now some of our friends
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might wanna know
where are the Bible verses,
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what does it say
about this subject
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of are the dead really dead?
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And you'll be
happy to know friends,
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that we do have a free offer
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that gives you a whole study
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on what the
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- The study guide
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"Are the Dead Really Dead?"
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I know we do have
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You know, pastor Doug,
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we also wanna
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But before we get
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So let's do that now.
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Dear Father in heaven,
we thank You for Your Word.
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We thank You for
the opportunity we have
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to be able to study together,
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and we ask Your blessing
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wherever they might be,
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and be with us
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as we open up Your Word and
we ask this in Jesus name. Amen.
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- Amen.
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- Well, we're ready
to go to our first phone,
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our first caller, Pastor Doug.
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We've got Anthony
listening in New York.
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Anthony, welcome to the program.
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- [Anthony] Hello,
good evening, pastors.
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- Evening.
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- [Anthony] Matthew chapter,
I believe it is Matthew 27:53.
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It says verse 52,
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this has to do
with the resurrection
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of the death of
Christ and it says,
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"And the graves were open
and many bodies of the saints,
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which slept arose."
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And verse 53 says,
"and came out of the graves
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after His resurrection
and went into the holy city
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and appeared unto many."
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My question is actually related
to Revelation chapter 14,
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where it talks
about the 144,000.
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So as I read
versus one through four,
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it seems to
allude to the 144,000
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in being a number from the past,
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especially when it says,
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"That it's the
first fruits of Christ."
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Could the saints that
were raised at the crucifixion
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and resurrection of, oh,
at the resurrection of Christ,
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be part of, or be that 144,000,
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or are we only
looking towards the future?
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- Well, I think the whole key
to understanding the 144,000,
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and I'm more convinced of
that today than I was yesterday,
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because I read about
it again this morning
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is that the
number really denotes
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a leadership among God's people.
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So first fruits
doesn't always mean sequential.
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First fruits can mean
from like the 12 apostles
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were a type of
first fruits for Jesus.
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And you read in
the Old Testament,
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I just got done reading where
David had an army of 288,000
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that would rotate and
that's two times 144,000.
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I think there was six months
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they each would be
kinda on duty and off duty
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so they could take care
of their homes and farms.
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So it's two sets of 144,000.
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And then you can
read, there was 288 people
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that ministered
in the sanctuary.
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It again, they
had by day by night,
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there's 12 hours in the
day, 12 at night, it's 144,000,
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144,000.
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But their leaders, this is
His army, it's His priesthood.
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And so I think the 144,000,
when it says, "First fruits",
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it's not talking about 144,000
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that were resurrected at
the crucifixion of Christ.
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I think it's still speaking
at the time it was written.
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It's looking forward to a
group near the end of time.
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So I have a book,
we have a free book.
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We'll be happy
to send you a copy,
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where it reviews that,
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and or anyone that wants
to know it's about 144,000.
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- If you'd like
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all you need to do is
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That's 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the
book called "The 144,000",
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and we'll be happy to
send it to whoever calls.
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You know, pastor the
actual title of the book.
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I'm looking for it here,
"Who Shall Sing the Song."
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I believe it's entitled
talking about the 144,000,
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and that is free to
anyone in north America.
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Again, just call 800-835-6747,
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Our next caller
that we have is Wesley
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listening from California.
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Wesley, welcome to the program.
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- [Wesley] Yes, thank you.
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My questions basically, should
we move now to the country
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so we can avoid
buying and selling,
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and being stuck
with a mark of the beast?
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- All right, well,
let's look at that.
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First, let me read that for
our friends that are listening,
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it says that part of
the persecution of the beast
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in the last days, it says,
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"That no one might buy or sell,
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except he who has the mark
or the number of the beast,
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or the number of his name."
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And it really
shouldn't shock anybody
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that one of the
things the devil's gonna use
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in the last days is
gonna be economic sanctions.
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I mean, you can turn the
page in the news right now,
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and it's talking
about economic sanctions,
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that of governments against
Russia and other governments
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if they're not complying
with international norms.
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We are also saw just in Canada,
there were some protesters,
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a truckers protest, and
anyone that was arrested,
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I think they had
their bank accounts frozen.
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And that's kind of unnerving
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to think that
everything is digital now.
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And it's so easy
for the governments
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to monitor a
person's buying and selling
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that I don't think
anyone is shocked to hear
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that the beast
power in the last days
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will use some sort
of economic sanctions
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on those that do not
worship appropriately.
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Now, because you may
not be able to buy or sell,
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people are thinking, "Well,
we don't know when that is,
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should I run to the hill,
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start planting a garden
so that I don't starve?"
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I don't think I
would react for that reason
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because people who read
these verses 50 years ago,
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or 100 years ago,
they could have said,
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"We're gonna run to the
Hills and grow our own food."
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There's
advantages to country living.
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But I would not
move to the country
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because of Revelation 13.
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I think when
things get that bad,
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God has always fed His people
in those times of trouble.
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So are there good reasons
to move it to the country? Yes.
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Should we do it
because the day's coming
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when you can't buy or sell?
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Well, I think there'd
be advantages to that,
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but I wouldn't make that
your first consideration.
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So, you know, I've
got a book on that,
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and it's talks about
heading to the Hills,
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and some beginners
guide to country living.
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So you could go
to Amazing Facts.
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And I wrote a little
book on country living
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and great benefits.
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But if everybody,
if all the Christians
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run to the Hills right now,
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who's gonna do evangelism?
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- You know pastor,
talking about country living.
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I think you also have a video.
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I was just watching it the
other day, of country living.
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Of course, you've got
a place in the country
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and you spent quite
a while cutting wood.
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And actually before you
went into full time ministry
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and you were selling firewood,
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so you spent a lot
of time up in the hills,
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in the mountains and quads-
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- Well, you've been there,
it's pretty far out, isn't it?
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- It's pretty neat,
yeah, it's out there.
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- Far out, I mean,
it is way off the grid.
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- So that is a great video.
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I think it's
available on YouTube.
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- Yeah, just go to Doug
Batchelor Country Living.
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I'm sure it'll pop up.
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- Yeah, all right, well,
thanks for your call Wesley.
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We've got Lonnie
listening in Arizona.
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Lonnie, welcome to the program.
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- [Lonnie] Everyone's always
afraid of what's gonna happen
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at the judgment seat of Christ.
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And again, if
you've died in Christ,
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then you know that your
name is in the book of life,
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and all of that and that
our sins are washed away.
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You know, as of Isaiah 1:18,
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but my question really is,
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do our dirty laundry
and I've heard you say this
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in some of your sermons,
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that it's
basically about rewards,
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which I know the both
of you gonna embellish on.
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And the thing is that
the good and the bad deeds
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they're gonna be
aired, but to whom?
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- Well, I think that
if you have repented of
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and confessed your sins,
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they are under
the blood of the lamb,
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and the Lord will protect us.
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God is not wanting to out us.
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You know, it was Judas
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who finally turned
away from the Lord,
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his sins of stealing and
everything were made manifest.
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But I think the Lord
is looking to protect
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and to wash away
and treat as innocent
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those that repent of and confess
and turn from their sins.
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He's not, they don't
come before them into judgment
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because Jesus is really
being judged for those things.
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- And you know,
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there's two things being blotted
out of the books of record.
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If you're a believer,
but you turn away from God,
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then your name gets blotted
out of the lambs book of life.
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But if you're a believer
and you remain faithful to God,
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then your sins get blotted out.
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Or at least to the
book of sin in heaven.
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And that's a good thing.
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So when we are forgiven
at the end of that judgment,
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the sins all cleanse the
book, so to speak are cleansed,
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the record of sins removed.
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So that's good news.
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No one's gonna be
up there in heaven
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during the
thousand years, you know,
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thumbing through
the book and saying,
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"Oh, look what he did,
oh, look what she did."
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No, the sins of the
righteous they're blotted out.
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- That's why you've got
that robe of righteousness.
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It's a covering.
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- That's right,
absolutely, very good.
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- Thank you, good question.
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- We've got Caleb
listening from New York.
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Caleb, welcome to the program.
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- [Caleb] Hello,
thank you, Pastor Doug
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and Pastor Ross.
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How you guys doing?
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- Good.
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- [Caleb] Oh, by
the way, Pastor Doug,
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I love your sermon
on Saturday on Sampson.
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- Oh, praise the Lord.
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Glad you enjoyed that.
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- [Calab] My
question is for you is
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I'm going through a
lot of problems right now,
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like mentally
and stuff like that.
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I haven't been praying and
spending time on the Bible.
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And am I like, what
can I do to get back?
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Or am I already doing like,
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oh, God's Spirit has left me.
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Is that why I'm
not like, you know-
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- Well, first of all,
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don't think that you're doomed.
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You probably wouldn't be
calling if you were doomed.
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The Holy Spirit's
still working with you.
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Every believer
has ups and downs.
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You know, life
has ups and downs.
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The weather has ups and downs.
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There are days the
sun is shining through
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and there are days that
the clouds obscure the sun.
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The sun is still there,
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but the earth
rotates and the sun is hidden
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and the storms come
and the sun is hidden,
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but the sun is still there.
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God, He loves you
and it's consistent.
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You can make a decision
to love the Lord and say,
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"I'm committing
myself to the Lord."
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That doesn't mean there
aren't gonna be ups and downs.
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When you get married,
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you make a covenant,
you make a commitment,
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there're gonna be ups
and downs in your marriage,
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but you're still,
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you've got that unconditional
love and that commitment.
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And so, yeah,
don't be discouraged.
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Now, you may need to
rediscover that first love.
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There may be things you need
to do to reignite your faith
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and faithfulness, spend time
in prayer, repent of your sins,
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you know, repent
and turn from your sins,
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ask the Lord for His grace
and as soon as you do that,
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He'll send the
refreshing of His Spirit again.
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So, and every believer may
have to do that a thousand times
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or more in their experience
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that we often seem to sometimes
go through ups and downs.
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There are highs and lows.
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That's just part of life.
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It's also part of
the Christian life.
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Do not think it means
that God has abandoned you.
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- You know, the Bible
tells us in 2 Corinthians 5:6,
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"That we walk by
faith, not by sight."
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So what that means
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is you might not
always feel a certain way.
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Doesn't mean God
is abandoned you,
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but we walk by faith
trusting in His word.
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Even if you don't
necessarily feel any different
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or feel differently,
we take God at His word.
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- That's right, amen.
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- Okay, next caller
that we have is Connor
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listening from Colorado.
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Connor, welcome to the program.
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- [Connor] Hello
pastors, how are you guys doing?
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- Good, thanks for calling.
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- [Connor] Thank
you, my question is
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kind of similar to the last one,
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but I was just wondering
how a person would know
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if they've committed
the unpardonable sin?
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- All right, first, when we
hang up request the free book,
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we'll send you a book on that.
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We get this question a lot.
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And you know, one of
the most frightening things
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that Jesus said is that
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"All manner of sin and
blaspheme can be forgiven,
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but he that sins
against the Holy Spirit,
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or blasphemes the Holy
Spirit cannot be forgiven."
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And people go, "Wow,
there is an unforgivable sin.
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I wonder if I've
committed that sin?"
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And 99.99% of the people
that worry about that have not.
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Of course, no one
knows the heart, but God,
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but sometimes we're
convicted by the Holy Spirit
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to turn from our sins.
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We think, "Well,
maybe I've gone too far."
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The devil often wants us
to think we've gone too far.
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There's a story in
the book of Zachariah,
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I believe it's chapter three,
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where the high priest
is wearing filthy garments,
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and the devil is there accusing,
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he's basically saying, you know,
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"he can't be
saved, he's gone too far."
00:18:38.75\00:18:40.78
When Michael comes
to resurrect Moses,
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the devil is there
saying, "Oh, Moses sinned,
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you can't take him to heaven."
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So the devil is the
accuser of the brethren.
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He often wants us to
think we've gone too far.
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If we're willing to
repent and turn to God,
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God is willing to forgive.
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Grieving away the Holy Spirit
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is not something that happens
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through usually
one particular sin,
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but it's a process of years
of rejection of God's Spirit.
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So that the volume of
the Holy Spirit goes down
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where we just don't
even hear it anymore.
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Examples of those who
committed the unpardonable sin
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in the Bible would be
Balaam, King Saul, Judas.
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I mean, they just,
they you know, Judas,
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what do you call it?
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The Saul went to a witch
and God stopped speaking to him,
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but it was 40 years of
rebellion that preceded that.
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And it was three and
a half years of Judas
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sinning in the face of
God's own son teaching.
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God is very patient.
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So don't be discouraged
and do send for that free book
00:19:37.27\00:19:39.54
about what is
the unpardonable sin.
00:19:39.54\00:19:42.04
- You know, we
also have a book pastor,
00:19:42.04\00:19:43.24
that our previous caller,
00:19:43.24\00:19:44.65
we probably should have
mentioned it at that point too.
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It's called "12
Steps to Revival."
00:19:46.08\00:19:48.42
Talking about how do you
rekindle that love for God,
00:19:48.42\00:19:50.85
that first faith and we'll
be happy to send that as well.
00:19:50.85\00:19:53.15
If you'd like to
receive either of these books
00:19:53.15\00:19:55.06
or both of them, the
number to call is 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the book,
"What is the Unpardonable Sin?"
00:19:59.36\00:20:02.20
You can also ask for the
book, "12 Steps to Revival."
00:20:02.20\00:20:05.33
And if your north America
will be happy to send it to you.
00:20:05.33\00:20:08.44
Next caller that we have
is Andrew listening in Kansas.
00:20:08.44\00:20:11.57
Andrew, welcome to the program.
00:20:11.57\00:20:13.11
- [Andrew] Hi Doug. Hi Ross.
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How are you guys doing?
00:20:17.08\00:20:18.01
- Good, thank you for calling.
00:20:18.01\00:20:19.45
- [Andrew] My question
is, God is only one God
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and I got brought this question
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and I don't know
how to answer it.
00:20:25.69\00:20:27.59
And so God the
Son is our God too.
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So they're trying to
tell me that there's two gods.
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- Yeah, I know people get,
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that's a common and a
normal misunderstanding.
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When it tells us in the
book of Deuteronomy chapter six,
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"Hear O Israel,
the Lord God is one."
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And the Bible
says several times,
00:20:48.61\00:20:49.88
"There is one God."
00:20:49.88\00:20:51.91
In the Hebrew mind, the
way they use the word one
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is not always talking
about numerical quantity.
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It's talking about unity.
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Jesus prayed to the
Father and He said in John 17,
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"Father, I pray that
they", meaning the 12 apostles,
00:21:03.79\00:21:06.83
"I pray they may be one."
00:21:06.83\00:21:08.93
Well, there's 12 of them,
but He wanted them to be united.
00:21:08.93\00:21:11.23
He said, "Father, I
pray they may be one
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even as You and I are one."
00:21:13.30\00:21:16.24
So Jesus was not
asking the 12 apostles
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to merge into one person.
00:21:18.71\00:21:20.51
He was asking for
them to be of one Spirit,
00:21:20.51\00:21:22.48
to be united as Jesus
and the Father and the Spirit
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are united.
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And so all of the pagan
religions, many of them anyway,
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they were polytheistic,
they had many gods.
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The God of the Bible,
it's a one united God.
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And so that God, in
the beginning, God says,
00:21:39.63\00:21:42.10
"Let Us make man in Our image."
00:21:42.10\00:21:45.30
It's plural.
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So right from the
beginning of the Bible,
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we know that God is
composed of a united God,
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meaning one in the
Spirit, in unity and purpose.
00:21:51.91\00:21:56.75
And it's, I know
it's somewhat mysterious,
00:21:56.75\00:21:58.68
but it's composed of
three unique persons.
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God the Father, the
Son, and the Holy Spirit.
00:22:01.48\00:22:04.02
And we have a book
we can send you on that.
00:22:04.02\00:22:05.82
That deals with "One God or
Three, is the Trinity Biblical?"
00:22:05.82\00:22:09.86
- The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:22:09.86\00:22:12.96
You can ask for the book
it's called "One God or Three?"
00:22:12.96\00:22:16.06
What is the Bible
teach about the Trinity?
00:22:16.06\00:22:18.10
Of course, the word Trinity,
pastor not found in the Bible,
00:22:18.10\00:22:20.57
but the idea of the
three members of the Godhead,
00:22:20.57\00:22:24.34
the Father, Son, and Holy
Spirit, that is very biblical,
00:22:24.34\00:22:26.57
and we find that
throughout scripture.
00:22:26.57\00:22:28.44
So be sure to call
and ask for that book.
00:22:28.44\00:22:30.11
You will be blessed.
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Next caller that we have is
Linda listening in Missouri.
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Linda, welcome to the program.
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- [Linda] Praise God.
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I just first
before asking my question,
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I just wanted to let you know
that both you, Doug and Jean,
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that because of you guys,
00:22:44.09\00:22:46.56
you're both gonna
have an extra crown,
00:22:46.56\00:22:48.40
or extra star on your crown
00:22:48.40\00:22:50.20
because you guys
both lead me to Christ,
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and the fullness of everything.
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And I just wanted to
thank you both on that.
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My question is
about the Amplified Bible.
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And what do you think about it,
00:23:02.88\00:23:04.81
is for a good main
Bible or a study Bible?
00:23:04.81\00:23:09.45
- Yeah, for our
friends that are listening,
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the Amplified Bible is a Bible
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that and correct me
if I'm wrong, Linda,
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but I think it's,
00:23:15.69\00:23:16.62
you're talking about the Bible
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that's got a verse,
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but it'll have like four
translations of each verse.
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- [Linda] Yeah, it says,
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"For the behind the
original Greek and Hebrew."
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- Yeah, well, I guess
there's a few Amplified Bibles,
00:23:28.94\00:23:31.61
but the one I'm thinking of
00:23:31.61\00:23:33.21
as it goes through
the different verses,
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you'll see each verse
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will have different
versions of that verse.
00:23:36.44\00:23:39.95
So you can amplify
each verse a little more
00:23:39.95\00:23:42.45
and it shows you some, yes,
00:23:42.45\00:23:43.79
some expound more on
the Greek and the Hebrew,
00:23:43.79\00:23:45.69
but it's a great study Bible.
00:23:45.69\00:23:48.59
So if you want to dig
deeper into each verse
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and look at it through the
eyes of different translators
00:23:51.49\00:23:54.03
to get little nuances,
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most of 'em say
exactly the same thing,
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but you often get
little nuances and insights
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through different words.
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It expands your understanding.
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Nothing wrong with
looking at the Amplified Bible
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as a study Bible.
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- Well, you know, I think
there's also an Amplified Bible,
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if I'm not mistaken,
which is a paraphrase
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where they will
take an English version,
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and they'll confer
with the Greek and Hebrew,
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but they'll take
an English Bible,
00:24:16.48\00:24:18.75
and they would
they'll write the verse
00:24:18.75\00:24:20.19
using different words and
maybe expand on different ideas.
00:24:20.19\00:24:23.86
So there is a difference
between an actual translation
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and a paraphrase.
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So we just wanna
be aware of that.
00:24:28.93\00:24:30.57
Translation is a direct
translation of the original
00:24:30.57\00:24:33.40
text. Sometimes the word
order is change just a little,
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but a paraphrase is
somebody adding some flavor,
00:24:35.97\00:24:39.57
you might say, or an
angle or perspective,
00:24:39.57\00:24:41.81
or putting it in
different language
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for people to understand.
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- [Linda] That
definitely helps me so much.
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Thank you very much.
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And you two have
a wonderful evening.
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- All right, God bless.
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Thank you.
00:24:53.72\00:24:54.92
- Next caller
that we have is Pat
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listening in Colorado.
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Pat, welcome to the program.
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- [Pat] Thank you very much.
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My question is, Jesus is
called the first born of God.
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And why is Jesus
called the first born of God
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before He was
born human on earth?
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- Where are you talking about?
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What verse?
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- [Linda] I didn't get
the verse written down.
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It's always said,
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"Jesus is the first born of God
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and we're adopted
into the family of God.
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- Right, well, Jesus is the,
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He's the only begotten Son.
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He is called the first born.
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It's not because He
was the first human born.
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You know, of course God
made man in His own image,
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but the only time that God
became a human was in Christ.
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And so, you know, He has
preeminence because of that.
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In the book of
Hebrews also tells us.
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But again, I don't
think that it's talking about
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the first born as in sequence.
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Now, when you talk about,
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well, let me back
up and correct myself.
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In the Hebrew,
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the first born son had a
special inheritance right,
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and he was given
special privileges.
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In that sense, Jesus
spiritually is the first born.
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He receives those
special inheritance rights.
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He's the greatest
among the son, so to speak.
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But obviously, Jesus
wasn't the first time
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that a human was born.
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So I guess we got about
25 seconds till the break,
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Pastor Ross anything
you want to add to that?
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- Yes, I mean,
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there is a phrase
in the Old Testament
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that seems to indicate or a
reference to the first born,
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it's usually messianic
and it's pointing to Jesus,
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and the fact that He would come,
00:26:38.09\00:26:39.46
and He would be
considered the first born
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in position and rank
because it's through Him
00:26:41.56\00:26:43.57
that anyone else is saved.
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Damon, welcome into the program.
00:30:20.12\00:30:21.72
- [Damon] Hello
pastors, good evening.
00:30:22.95\00:30:24.29
- Evening,
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and your question.
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- [Damon] Yes sir, yes, sir.
00:30:28.39\00:30:29.22
Thank you.
00:30:29.22\00:30:30.46
So I've been trying to
confirm the Holy Spirit
00:30:30.46\00:30:33.13
and the Godhead
a little bit more,
00:30:33.13\00:30:35.36
and I've been
reading some scriptures.
00:30:35.36\00:30:37.50
I'm getting a little,
I get a little confused.
00:30:37.50\00:30:40.40
Is the Holy Spirit
and the Spirit of God,
00:30:40.40\00:30:44.64
two different things
or is it one in the same?
00:30:44.64\00:30:47.28
- Well, I can't imagine a case
00:30:48.28\00:30:50.11
where someone would
receive the Spirit of God
00:30:50.11\00:30:52.45
without the Holy Spirit.
00:30:52.45\00:30:54.55
So the Holy Spirit is the one.
00:30:54.55\00:30:57.45
And sometimes in King James,
it calls it the Holy Ghost,
00:30:57.45\00:31:00.12
the same word we don't,
00:31:00.12\00:31:03.26
today we think of ghost as
a, you know, spook or something,
00:31:03.26\00:31:06.70
but it's really
the Spirit of God.
00:31:06.70\00:31:09.93
And when it says, "The Spirit
of the Lord came on Sampson
00:31:09.93\00:31:12.37
or the Spirit of
the Lord came on David,
00:31:12.37\00:31:14.44
or they were
baptized in the Holy Spirit",
00:31:14.44\00:31:16.30
the Bible says, "There's one
Lord, one faith, one Spirit."
00:31:16.30\00:31:20.34
And so it would be the same.
00:31:20.34\00:31:22.04
- [Damon] So like, when
it says like the breath,
00:31:23.85\00:31:25.71
like when it, for instance,
00:31:25.71\00:31:26.92
when it says, "God
breathes the Spirit",
00:31:26.92\00:31:28.92
which is like the
ruach, the breath.
00:31:28.92\00:31:32.02
- Oh, now I see what
you're talking about now.
00:31:32.02\00:31:34.79
Now that is a
little different, you know,
00:31:34.79\00:31:37.56
when it's talking
about the breath of life
00:31:37.56\00:31:41.06
that is talking
about the air of life,
00:31:41.06\00:31:44.40
and of course it's even there,
00:31:44.40\00:31:45.90
it's the Spirit of God
that is infused in a person.
00:31:45.90\00:31:48.57
But the word really is
breath like when you breathe.
00:31:48.57\00:31:51.61
And when it tells us in Genesis,
"God breathe into Adam."
00:31:51.61\00:31:54.91
And that word
in Hebrew is ruach,
00:31:54.91\00:31:57.01
in Greek it's the word pneuma,
00:31:57.01\00:31:58.41
which is where we
get pneumatic tools,
00:31:58.41\00:32:00.42
tools that run on air,
00:32:00.42\00:32:01.98
or pneumonia, it's a sickness
of the air or the breathing.
00:32:01.98\00:32:06.25
So that's the word pneuma,
00:32:07.59\00:32:09.22
that's talking
about the wind or the air.
00:32:09.22\00:32:12.33
And sometimes that's
interchangeable with the word
00:32:12.33\00:32:16.10
spirit. It
depends on the context.
00:32:16.10\00:32:17.97
- You know,
these different symbols
00:32:17.97\00:32:19.20
used for the Holy
Spirit in the Bible.
00:32:19.20\00:32:20.40
You have wind, as
you mentioned, pastor.
00:32:20.40\00:32:22.17
Also, fire is a symbol
of the Holy Spirit at times.
00:32:22.17\00:32:25.64
And then also water can
symbolize the Holy Spirit.
00:32:25.64\00:32:28.81
So you've got
these different symbols
00:32:28.81\00:32:30.21
that appear in the Bible.
00:32:30.21\00:32:31.45
But it's
illustrating or pointing forward
00:32:31.45\00:32:33.08
to the Holy Spirit.
00:32:33.08\00:32:35.15
- Yeah, we've got a book
00:32:35.15\00:32:36.38
we'd be happy to
share with Damon.
00:32:36.38\00:32:37.59
That's dealing
with the Holy Spirit
00:32:37.59\00:32:39.25
and it talks about the
need of the Holy Spirit.
00:32:39.25\00:32:42.36
And this goes into
00:32:42.36\00:32:43.56
some of the
definitions of the spirit there.
00:32:43.56\00:32:45.93
We'll be happy to
send you a free copy Damon.
00:32:45.93\00:32:47.93
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call is 800-835-6747.
00:32:47.93\00:32:51.40
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ask for the book it's called
00:32:51.40\00:32:53.00
"The Holy Spirit, the Need",
00:32:53.00\00:32:54.30
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00:32:54.30\00:32:56.07
Damon or anyone
listening in North America.
00:32:56.07\00:32:59.04
Outside of North
America, you can still read it,
00:32:59.04\00:33:01.08
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00:33:01.08\00:33:05.01
We have Jesus
listening in Florida.
00:33:05.01\00:33:07.42
Jesus, welcome to the program.
00:33:07.42\00:33:08.92
- [Jesus] Hello pastors.
00:33:10.15\00:33:11.39
Thank you for taking
my answer my question.
00:33:11.39\00:33:13.69
So my question comes
from 1 Corinthians 7:12.
00:33:15.89\00:33:20.10
I was doing a
little bit of study,
00:33:20.10\00:33:21.70
'cause I've been going along
00:33:21.70\00:33:22.93
with like the
yearly Bible study plan
00:33:22.93\00:33:24.77
that you guys have,
but I'm a little delayed.
00:33:24.77\00:33:27.04
And the question is
pertaining to when it says,
00:33:27.04\00:33:31.54
"But to the rest
I not the Lord say
00:33:31.54\00:33:34.94
if any brother has a wife."
00:33:34.94\00:33:36.48
Practically Paul saying that
he not the Lord is advising.
00:33:36.48\00:33:41.42
I guess you could say
like the Corinthian church.
00:33:45.49\00:33:47.69
I wanted to know what
are your guys' thoughts?
00:33:47.69\00:33:50.73
- Yeah, I think Paul is
taking a humble approach here.
00:33:50.73\00:33:53.03
He's giving some
counsel to the church.
00:33:53.03\00:33:56.03
He's also giving
counsel to a particular church
00:33:56.03\00:34:00.50
and he's saying,
00:34:00.50\00:34:02.00
"Look, I'm not giving this
to you as a command from God
00:34:02.00\00:34:03.67
but my judgment."
00:34:03.67\00:34:04.94
And Paul actually
uses that word other times.
00:34:04.94\00:34:06.41
He says, "In my
judgment" and he's disqualifing.
00:34:06.41\00:34:09.98
He said, "This is my judgment."
00:34:09.98\00:34:11.28
Now of course he is an
apostle inspired by God.
00:34:11.28\00:34:13.38
So his judgment, he probably
underrated his own judgment.
00:34:13.38\00:34:16.69
But yeah, he's
talking about this situation.
00:34:17.89\00:34:20.82
If a man's got a
woman she doesn't believe,
00:34:20.82\00:34:23.73
and she's willing to
stay with her, he's saying,
00:34:23.73\00:34:25.66
"Let her not divorce him."
00:34:25.66\00:34:27.13
Now, this is actually a
position of most churches
00:34:27.13\00:34:29.93
that believers should
not divorce their unbelieving
00:34:29.93\00:34:34.70
spouses, 'cause
marriage is a sacred union.
00:34:34.70\00:34:37.14
And Paul said, "Who knows?
00:34:37.14\00:34:38.77
You might be able to convert
your unbelieving spouse."
00:34:38.77\00:34:41.51
Peter reinforces
this when he says,
00:34:41.51\00:34:43.58
and I think it's 1
Peter chapter three,
00:34:43.58\00:34:45.28
where he says that "The
unbelieving husband can be
00:34:45.28\00:34:50.12
converted by the chaste
behavior of the believing wife."
00:34:50.12\00:34:53.42
And so it's a principle
00:34:53.42\00:34:54.82
that I think is a
scriptural principle.
00:34:54.82\00:34:57.69
Paul, he seems to approach
it with some humility saying,
00:34:57.69\00:35:02.16
"You know, in my opinion."
00:35:02.16\00:35:03.87
Does that help?
00:35:03.87\00:35:04.70
- [Jesus] Yeah,
definitely, thank you.
00:35:05.93\00:35:07.14
- Yeah and by the
way, we do have a book
00:35:07.14\00:35:08.94
on marriage,
divorce and remarriage,
00:35:08.94\00:35:11.17
and we do address
this issue in that book.
00:35:11.17\00:35:14.04
- The number to call
again is 800-835-6747.
00:35:14.04\00:35:17.51
That is the resource phone line.
00:35:17.51\00:35:19.05
You can ask for the book called
00:35:19.05\00:35:20.48
"Marriage,
Divorce and Remarriage",
00:35:20.48\00:35:22.62
and we'll send that to
anyone who calls and asks.
00:35:22.62\00:35:25.12
We've got Matthew
listening in Toronto.
00:35:25.12\00:35:27.19
Matthew, welcome to the program.
00:35:27.19\00:35:28.99
- [Matthew] Hi pastor,
thanks for taking my call.
00:35:30.39\00:35:32.53
Based on Genesis one.
00:35:32.53\00:35:34.56
The Bible says, "God
made male and female."
00:35:34.56\00:35:37.77
So my question is,
00:35:37.77\00:35:39.77
is it okay for me to
change from male to female
00:35:39.77\00:35:44.77
and God still love me and
can I be saved in God's kingdom?
00:35:46.21\00:35:48.44
- Well, God, you know,
00:35:49.74\00:35:51.48
people often do sinful
things and God is a God of love.
00:35:51.48\00:35:56.48
So the Bible says,
00:35:57.25\00:35:58.52
"What can separate us
from the love of God?"
00:35:58.52\00:36:00.39
God loves us.
00:36:00.39\00:36:01.49
Can a person
continue in known sin
00:36:01.49\00:36:04.79
whatever that sin is
and still be saved? No.
00:36:04.79\00:36:08.03
If we don't repent of
our sins, we can't be saved.
00:36:08.03\00:36:10.87
So now then the
other question is,
00:36:10.87\00:36:12.90
is it a sin for a person
to try to change themselves
00:36:12.90\00:36:16.20
from male to female?
00:36:16.20\00:36:17.57
I believe it is.
00:36:17.57\00:36:19.01
I think the Bible tells us
00:36:19.01\00:36:20.18
that God makes a
person for one thing,
00:36:20.18\00:36:22.18
it's biologically impossible.
00:36:22.18\00:36:24.61
It doesn't matter
how many procedures
00:36:24.61\00:36:26.18
and chemicals and
hormones you receive,
00:36:26.18\00:36:28.08
the differences
between men and women
00:36:28.08\00:36:30.19
go all the way to
the genetic level.
00:36:30.19\00:36:32.59
And you are born
either one or the other.
00:36:32.59\00:36:35.72
I know there are some rare cases
00:36:35.72\00:36:37.16
of people that have some
deformities when they're born,
00:36:37.16\00:36:39.59
but the very genes,
00:36:39.59\00:36:42.63
the X and the Y chromosomes
in male and female are different
00:36:42.63\00:36:45.73
that cannot be changed.
00:36:45.73\00:36:47.34
You know, I think there
was just an interesting ruling
00:36:47.34\00:36:49.20
that was made.
00:36:49.20\00:36:50.37
Everyone was aware in the news,
00:36:50.37\00:36:52.47
how there was a
certain male swimmer
00:36:52.47\00:36:55.51
who went through, you know,
00:36:55.51\00:36:57.01
the outward change to try to
be transformed into a female.
00:36:57.01\00:37:00.58
And as a male
swimmer, he was a mediocre,
00:37:00.58\00:37:03.85
but as a female swimmer,
suddenly he began to just,
00:37:03.85\00:37:06.12
you know, break all the records,
00:37:06.12\00:37:07.72
and all the
girls began to protest.
00:37:07.72\00:37:09.26
Well, first they were afraid to
00:37:09.26\00:37:10.39
'cause it was
politically incorrect
00:37:10.39\00:37:11.63
and he began to
protest and said,
00:37:11.63\00:37:13.13
"This just no
way we can compete.
00:37:13.13\00:37:15.10
This is not fair.
00:37:15.10\00:37:16.03
He is physiologically a male,
00:37:16.03\00:37:17.67
the surgeries
don't change things."
00:37:17.67\00:37:19.33
And now the sports board
that governs that department
00:37:19.33\00:37:24.01
has agreed and they said,
00:37:24.01\00:37:25.51
"Someone who has
entered puberty as a male,
00:37:25.51\00:37:29.04
they cannot
compete as a female."
00:37:29.04\00:37:30.98
Of course, I don't think
they should ever at any point.
00:37:30.98\00:37:33.25
But so I'm meandering
to answer your question.
00:37:33.25\00:37:36.65
God made them male and female.
00:37:36.65\00:37:38.45
The Lord does not want,
00:37:38.45\00:37:39.95
a male should not dress
like a female, the Bible says,
00:37:39.95\00:37:43.09
and that's in
Deuteronomy, I think it's 18.
00:37:43.09\00:37:46.06
A male should not dress
or maybe it's Deuteronomy 22,
00:37:46.06\00:37:49.66
"A man should not
put on a woman's garment
00:37:49.66\00:37:51.63
or a woman put
on a man's garment,
00:37:51.63\00:37:53.27
for all that do so are an
abomination unto the Lord."
00:37:53.27\00:37:56.14
If God made you a man
celebrate how God made you,
00:37:56.14\00:37:59.14
or if He made you a
woman be thankful and celebrate
00:37:59.14\00:38:01.84
and live that
out, that's God's plan.
00:38:01.84\00:38:04.28
- All right, well,
thanks for your call Matthew.
00:38:05.68\00:38:07.28
Next caller that we
have is Steve in New York.
00:38:07.28\00:38:10.02
Steve, welcome to the program.
00:38:10.02\00:38:12.22
- [Steve] My question
involves Joshua chapter six
00:38:12.22\00:38:15.76
and in Joshua chapter
six, the Lord instructs Joshua
00:38:15.76\00:38:18.93
to take the men of
war and some priests
00:38:18.93\00:38:21.26
to march around Jericho.
00:38:21.26\00:38:24.07
And they were to
do that seven days.
00:38:24.07\00:38:26.37
So my question is
one of those seven days
00:38:26.37\00:38:28.74
would've been the Sabbath.
00:38:28.74\00:38:30.87
And I'm just wondering why
God would've instructed them
00:38:30.87\00:38:35.31
to march on the
Sabbath doing that.
00:38:35.31\00:38:39.81
Or was it again,
maybe not common,
00:38:39.81\00:38:43.18
but not unusual for
Israel to go into battles
00:38:43.18\00:38:47.19
even when it
was the Sabbath day?
00:38:47.19\00:38:50.39
- Yeah. Good question.
00:38:50.39\00:38:51.59
All right, so in
the story of Joshua,
00:38:51.59\00:38:53.19
it says, "You're to march
around the city six times,
00:38:53.19\00:38:55.76
or a six days, once,
00:38:56.73\00:38:58.00
seventh day, seven times,
00:38:58.00\00:39:00.10
he's not talking about
the seventh day of the week.
00:39:00.10\00:39:01.50
He means the
seventh day of marching,
00:39:01.50\00:39:03.57
but your point is still good.
00:39:03.57\00:39:05.01
That that would mean if
there's seven sequential days
00:39:05.01\00:39:07.48
in marching around Jericho,
00:39:07.48\00:39:08.71
one of those seven
must have been the Sabbath.
00:39:08.71\00:39:11.08
Well, if God tells His
army to go march around a city
00:39:12.61\00:39:16.79
and blow trumpets,
00:39:16.79\00:39:18.92
that's really just a
Sabbath walk and special music.
00:39:18.92\00:39:21.79
There's nothing in there that's
really forbidden in itself.
00:39:21.79\00:39:25.26
They're not
actually going to war,
00:39:25.26\00:39:27.13
but even among the Israelites,
00:39:27.13\00:39:30.57
if they were
attacked by their enemies
00:39:30.57\00:39:32.60
on the Sabbath day, and
that happens to modern Israel.
00:39:32.60\00:39:35.04
Several of the wars have
been launched by Islamic enemies
00:39:35.04\00:39:39.91
on Friday,
thinking that the Jews
00:39:39.91\00:39:42.34
would be the least prepared.
00:39:42.34\00:39:46.38
When Pearl Harbor
happened, it was not an accident
00:39:46.38\00:39:49.75
the Japanese attacked Pearl
Harbor on a Sunday morning,
00:39:49.75\00:39:53.66
they knew it
would be the day of rest
00:39:53.66\00:39:55.29
for the people in the city,
00:39:55.29\00:39:56.93
and that they
would be the least prone
00:39:56.93\00:39:58.79
to preparation for fighting.
00:39:58.79\00:40:00.90
But the Jews, as other armies,
00:40:00.90\00:40:03.47
they realize an army needs
to be equipped all the time
00:40:03.47\00:40:06.87
and prepared all the time.
00:40:06.87\00:40:08.34
And even the Jews had
people who were a Watchman
00:40:08.34\00:40:10.64
in the temple, on the Sabbath.
00:40:10.64\00:40:12.77
So, it's not a sin for a
Jewish army or Sabbath keepers
00:40:12.77\00:40:17.78
to defend themselves if they're
attacked on the Sabbath day.
00:40:19.18\00:40:22.25
There were some
wars that the Jews fought
00:40:22.25\00:40:23.95
that lasted for
years and obviously,
00:40:23.95\00:40:27.49
they didn't take
every Saturday off.
00:40:27.49\00:40:29.69
So when there's
defending the cities.
00:40:29.69\00:40:32.73
- All right, thank you, Steve.
00:40:33.90\00:40:35.73
Next caller that we have is
Jesse listening in Colorado.
00:40:35.73\00:40:38.33
Jesse, welcome to the program.
00:40:38.33\00:40:39.80
- [Jesse] Hi.
00:40:41.20\00:40:42.14
- Hi.
00:40:42.14\00:40:42.94
- [Jesse] So my question
deals with Revelation 17,
00:40:44.77\00:40:47.68
who is the lady and I
have an opinion on it already,
00:40:50.21\00:40:53.28
but I just want to
hear what you guys say.
00:40:53.28\00:40:55.25
- Yeah, Revelation 17
00:40:55.25\00:40:56.85
is that chapter that
identifies this woman
00:40:56.85\00:40:59.45
who's called,
Mystery Babylon the Great,
00:40:59.45\00:41:01.99
the mother of harlots
and abomination of the earth.
00:41:01.99\00:41:05.09
Says "That she's
got many daughters."
00:41:05.09\00:41:07.30
Well, I think the key
to answer that question.
00:41:07.30\00:41:09.16
This is a prophecy
that was written by John.
00:41:09.16\00:41:12.00
John is a captive in Rome
when he writes the prophecy
00:41:12.00\00:41:15.24
and he says in verse 18,
00:41:15.24\00:41:17.07
that's the last
verse in chapter 17.
00:41:17.07\00:41:19.51
"The woman who you
saw is that great city
00:41:19.51\00:41:22.18
that reigns over
the Kings of the earth."
00:41:22.18\00:41:24.65
What city was raining
over the Kings of the earth
00:41:24.65\00:41:27.62
when John wrote Revelation?
00:41:27.62\00:41:29.12
- [Jesse] So I
would say Rome, right?
00:41:30.29\00:41:31.99
- Correct.
00:41:31.99\00:41:33.22
So a woman in prophecy
is an allegory of what?
00:41:33.22\00:41:35.99
- [Jesse] I have really no clue.
00:41:37.49\00:41:38.69
- Okay, well, the Bible says,
00:41:38.69\00:41:40.20
"Husbands love your wives
as Christ loves the church."
00:41:40.20\00:41:42.63
And sometimes God's
church has been unfaithful.
00:41:42.63\00:41:45.13
So here you have an
unfaithful woman in Rome
00:41:45.13\00:41:48.64
that becomes a very powerful,
00:41:48.64\00:41:50.91
that gets involved
in intrigue and adultery
00:41:50.91\00:41:55.08
with the Kings of the earth.
00:41:55.08\00:41:56.71
The only church that
can fit this description
00:41:56.71\00:41:59.11
would be the
Roman Catholic church.
00:41:59.11\00:42:00.85
And by the way,
00:42:00.85\00:42:02.08
that's not pastor
Doug or Pastor Ross.
00:42:02.08\00:42:03.52
This is what was said by
Martin Luther, Charles Spurgeon,
00:42:03.52\00:42:08.09
John Wesley, John Calvin,
all the Protestant reformers,
00:42:09.49\00:42:14.00
and many, matter of fact,
00:42:14.83\00:42:17.00
even I think it was
even Pope Gregory the Great
00:42:17.00\00:42:19.63
who said, "Any man that
calls the office of the Pope
00:42:19.63\00:42:23.54
to be, you know,
the head of the church",
00:42:23.54\00:42:25.54
he says, "he is antichrist."
00:42:25.54\00:42:27.94
So yeah, this is identifying
the Roman Catholic church
00:42:27.94\00:42:32.95
says, "The woman
sits among seven Hills."
00:42:34.12\00:42:35.95
Rome is the city of seven Hills.
00:42:35.95\00:42:38.09
So I think it's pretty clear.
00:42:38.09\00:42:40.02
- You know, we got a study
guide called "The Other Woman",
00:42:40.02\00:42:42.26
and it's talking
about this description
00:42:42.26\00:42:44.26
we find in
Revelation chapter 17.
00:42:44.26\00:42:46.96
We'll be happy
to send this to you,
00:42:46.96\00:42:48.10
Jesse or anyone
wanting to learn more
00:42:48.10\00:42:49.80
about this very
important chapter
00:42:49.80\00:42:52.03
that we find in the
last book of the Bible.
00:42:52.03\00:42:54.30
You can just call and ask,
00:42:54.30\00:42:55.40
ask for the study guide.
00:42:55.40\00:42:56.87
It's called, "The Other
Woman", it's on Revelation 17.
00:42:56.87\00:42:58.81
The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:42:58.81\00:43:02.91
And again, ask for the study
guide called "The Other Woman".
00:43:02.91\00:43:06.41
Our next caller
that we have is Keith
00:43:06.41\00:43:08.68
listening in Louisiana.
00:43:08.68\00:43:12.42
Keith, welcome to the program.
00:43:12.42\00:43:14.56
- [Keith] Can you
explain 1 Peter 3:18-20?
00:43:14.56\00:43:17.63
- It says, "For Christ
suffered once for sins,
00:43:23.37\00:43:25.40
the just for the unjust
that He might bring us to God,
00:43:25.40\00:43:28.37
being put to death in the flesh,
00:43:28.37\00:43:29.87
but made alive by the Spirit,
00:43:29.87\00:43:31.94
by whom", talking
about by the Spirit.
00:43:31.94\00:43:33.84
"He also went and preached
to the spirits in prison
00:43:33.84\00:43:36.21
who formally were disobedient
00:43:36.21\00:43:38.08
when once the divine
long suffering waited
00:43:38.08\00:43:40.22
in the days of Noah while
the ark was being prepared."
00:43:40.22\00:43:43.45
It's talking about
the divine long suffering.
00:43:43.45\00:43:46.09
It's talking about the spirit.
00:43:46.09\00:43:47.82
Peter is referring
back to Genesis chapter six,
00:43:47.82\00:43:51.23
and I think it's
verse three where God says,
00:43:51.23\00:43:52.76
"My Spirit will not
always strive with man,
00:43:52.76\00:43:56.87
but his days will be 120 years."
00:43:56.87\00:43:59.30
So it was the same Spirit
that rose Jesus from the dead.
00:43:59.30\00:44:02.94
That spirit strove with
unbelievers back in the days of
00:44:02.94\00:44:06.84
Noah and spoke to those
who are imprisoned by sin.
00:44:06.84\00:44:10.51
It's not saying that
when Jesus died on the cross,
00:44:10.51\00:44:13.18
that He went to
a dungeon somewhere
00:44:13.18\00:44:15.08
to give special second
chance treatment to people
00:44:15.08\00:44:18.35
that live before the flood.
00:44:18.35\00:44:20.16
And this is, you know
what some people have taught,
00:44:20.16\00:44:22.06
but Bible doesn't teach that.
00:44:22.06\00:44:24.83
Is that kind of
what you were wondering?
00:44:24.83\00:44:27.60
- [Keith] Yes, sir, yes.
00:44:27.60\00:44:28.86
Especially that
part was a bit troubling
00:44:28.86\00:44:31.47
about the spirits in prison.
00:44:32.33\00:44:35.80
So yeah, that
does make more sense.
00:44:35.80\00:44:37.97
- The key to understanding that
00:44:37.97\00:44:39.17
is you go to Genesis 6:3.
00:44:39.17\00:44:41.71
God said, "My Spirit will
not always strive with man."
00:44:41.71\00:44:44.55
This was written
before the flood.
00:44:44.55\00:44:46.31
This is the Spirit,
the long suffering of God.
00:44:46.31\00:44:49.18
"For 120 years", it
says, "they would have
00:44:49.18\00:44:51.85
from the time that God called
Noah until the flood came,
00:44:51.85\00:44:54.92
and God spoke to
the spirits in prison",
00:44:54.92\00:44:57.13
by the devil
meaning, "in prison by sin."
00:44:57.13\00:44:59.53
- All right. Thanks for call.
00:45:00.96\00:45:02.36
We've got Reasoner
listening from North Carolina.
00:45:02.36\00:45:05.07
Reasoner,
welcome to the program.
00:45:05.07\00:45:06.97
- [Reasoner] Hey, thanks
Pastor Doug, Pastor Ross.
00:45:06.97\00:45:09.77
I got two questions.
00:45:10.91\00:45:12.37
First of all, can you
read Matthew 5:20 please?
00:45:12.37\00:45:16.51
- All right, you got it, Jean.
00:45:16.51\00:45:18.15
You wanna read it?
00:45:18.15\00:45:19.01
- Yes.
00:45:19.01\00:45:20.52
"For I say to you, unless
your righteousness succeeds
00:45:20.52\00:45:21.75
the righteousness of
the Scribes and Pharisees,
00:45:21.75\00:45:24.22
you will by no means
enter the kingdom of heaven."
00:45:24.22\00:45:26.76
- [Reasoner] Okay, thanks.
00:45:27.86\00:45:29.09
Now, first
question is simply this.
00:45:29.09\00:45:31.93
If Christ were here now,
dispensing free education,
00:45:31.93\00:45:35.63
free medicine, free food.
00:45:35.63\00:45:37.53
He fed the crowd for free,
His charity and generosity.
00:45:37.53\00:45:41.14
Could you see Him
being branded as a socialist?
00:45:41.14\00:45:44.71
That's the first question.
00:45:44.71\00:45:46.88
- Okay, well, no,
you know, of course,
00:45:46.88\00:45:49.91
how would He be branded?
00:45:49.91\00:45:51.95
They, everybody
branded Jesus pretty poorly.
00:45:51.95\00:45:53.88
Both the
legalists and the liberals,
00:45:53.88\00:45:56.99
the Sadducees and the Pharisees
didn't care much for Jesus.
00:45:56.99\00:46:00.42
Jesus freely dispensing.
00:46:00.42\00:46:03.59
He was not freely
dispensing from a government.
00:46:03.59\00:46:06.66
He was personally
freely dispensing.
00:46:06.66\00:46:08.63
He was encouraging
believers to dispense,
00:46:08.63\00:46:11.07
not compulsory
gifts and taxation.
00:46:11.07\00:46:15.90
In other words,
America started out
00:46:15.90\00:46:19.44
where the government
depended on the goodness
00:46:19.44\00:46:22.84
and the Christianity of people
00:46:22.84\00:46:24.38
to care for the poor, the
hospitals, the orphanages,
00:46:24.38\00:46:27.28
they weren't run
by the government.
00:46:27.28\00:46:28.28
They were run by the Christians.
00:46:28.28\00:46:30.35
But as time went
by, the government said,
00:46:30.35\00:46:32.05
"Well, we can't
trust you to be good.
00:46:32.05\00:46:33.56
So we're gonna take the money
from you and we'll run it."
00:46:33.56\00:46:36.29
That's a whole different system
00:46:36.29\00:46:37.59
than what Christ
really was setting up.
00:46:37.59\00:46:40.20
- Well, you know, pastor,
I'm thinking of another verse.
00:46:40.20\00:46:41.83
It's clear, the
Bible does talk about
00:46:41.83\00:46:43.30
our responsibility as
believers to help those in need.
00:46:43.30\00:46:46.77
And that is the poor.
00:46:46.77\00:46:48.57
But on the other hand,
00:46:48.57\00:46:49.74
you do find a
principle that we read about
00:46:49.74\00:46:51.61
in 2 Thessalonians three,
00:46:51.61\00:46:53.44
this is not the only place,
00:46:53.44\00:46:55.18
but the principle is simply this
00:46:55.18\00:46:56.95
"The one who does not
work, shall neither eat."
00:46:56.95\00:47:00.55
In other words, we need to work.
00:47:00.55\00:47:02.45
It's not a good thing
for us not to do what we can
00:47:02.45\00:47:05.55
to support
ourselves and our family.
00:47:05.55\00:47:07.79
If we claim that
we don't wanna work
00:47:07.79\00:47:09.92
and we just want to get
handouts, well, we lazy.
00:47:09.92\00:47:13.23
It's contrary to
what the Bible says.
00:47:13.23\00:47:14.86
- That's spiritual.
00:47:14.86\00:47:15.80
- So, there is a balance.
00:47:15.80\00:47:16.97
We need to be industrious.
00:47:16.97\00:47:18.07
We need to do our best.
00:47:18.07\00:47:19.53
The Bible says,
"Whatever your hand finds to do,
00:47:19.53\00:47:21.20
do it with all your might."
00:47:21.20\00:47:23.14
But there are
people that get sick.
00:47:23.14\00:47:25.31
There are people
that suffer, need.
00:47:25.31\00:47:27.21
And as believers, we
want to be aware of that.
00:47:27.21\00:47:29.38
And we want to help people.
00:47:29.38\00:47:30.98
It's a different
structure that you see
00:47:30.98\00:47:32.91
than what's being promoted today
00:47:32.91\00:47:34.48
in different political circles.
00:47:34.48\00:47:36.85
- So you guys, you had
two parts to your question.
00:47:36.85\00:47:38.82
What was the second part?
00:47:38.82\00:47:40.26
- [Reasoner] Okay, the
second question is simply this,
00:47:40.26\00:47:42.06
the Pharisees were more old
line stand pat, traditional,
00:47:42.06\00:47:46.70
staunchity, okay.
00:47:46.70\00:47:48.56
That when Saul got
his name changed to Paul,
00:47:48.56\00:47:52.23
did he leave the
party of the Pharisees?
00:47:53.37\00:47:57.34
- Well, he must have,
00:47:57.34\00:47:58.31
because I think Paul says,
00:47:58.31\00:47:59.64
"I was a Pharisee
of the Pharisees."
00:47:59.64\00:48:02.08
And so he speaks
of it in past tense.
00:48:02.08\00:48:04.31
Of course, I don't
know if that's by his choice
00:48:05.58\00:48:07.55
or if they evicted him,
00:48:07.55\00:48:08.98
but he considered
himself a Pharisee.
00:48:08.98\00:48:11.45
He had to abandon some of
the teachings of the Pharisees
00:48:11.45\00:48:14.22
'cause the majority of
the Pharisees rejected Jesus.
00:48:14.22\00:48:17.89
- And of course the
Pharisees fundamentally
00:48:17.89\00:48:19.69
the theology was
righteous by works.
00:48:19.69\00:48:22.76
And so Paul, you know,
becomes Paul but he was Saul,
00:48:22.76\00:48:27.30
him being a
Pharisee of the Pharisees,
00:48:27.30\00:48:29.07
he was very careful to
observe every little tradition
00:48:29.07\00:48:33.27
that was created,
trying to be righteous.
00:48:33.27\00:48:35.64
And then of course he discovered
the truth of the gospel
00:48:35.64\00:48:37.58
and realized righteous
comes by faith in Christ,
00:48:37.58\00:48:39.78
not as a result of works.
00:48:39.78\00:48:41.08
All right. Well
thank you for your call.
00:48:42.22\00:48:43.35
We've got Joseph
listening in California.
00:48:43.35\00:48:45.39
Joseph, welcome to the program.
00:48:45.39\00:48:46.96
- [Joseph] Hello
pastors, how are you guys doing?
00:48:48.39\00:48:50.36
- Doing great.
Thank you for calling.
00:48:50.36\00:48:52.19
- [Joseph] Yeah, first of all,
00:48:53.09\00:48:54.30
I want to thank you
guys for your ministry.
00:48:54.30\00:48:55.90
I've learned a lot from
listening to you guys' programs.
00:48:55.90\00:48:59.40
My question is, what are
your thoughts on home church?
00:49:00.84\00:49:05.07
And does the Bible
say anything against it?
00:49:05.07\00:49:07.81
- Well, you see a lot
of examples in the Bible
00:49:08.98\00:49:11.48
of people meeting in homes
in the early days of the church.
00:49:11.48\00:49:15.08
If you look in the
book of Acts, you know,
00:49:15.08\00:49:18.19
of course Christ first
met them in a home church,
00:49:18.19\00:49:20.56
an upper room.
00:49:20.56\00:49:22.06
The last supper was in what
you would call a home church,
00:49:22.06\00:49:24.23
an upper room.
00:49:24.23\00:49:25.86
The resurrection and
the early Bible studies.
00:49:25.86\00:49:28.96
The Holy Spirit
being poured out.
00:49:28.96\00:49:30.90
This was all done in homes.
00:49:30.90\00:49:32.40
There were not formally
dedicated church buildings
00:49:32.40\00:49:35.80
with a more public nature.
00:49:35.80\00:49:37.61
And so I personally think,
00:49:37.61\00:49:40.01
I know Pastor Ross agrees,
00:49:40.01\00:49:41.31
that the strength of any church
00:49:41.31\00:49:43.71
is gonna be not just
what happens once a week
00:49:43.71\00:49:45.81
in the building,
00:49:45.81\00:49:47.08
but in the homes
and in small groups.
00:49:47.08\00:49:51.12
Because that's where we
really build relationships.
00:49:51.12\00:49:53.52
And you can have more
intimate times of prayer
00:49:53.52\00:49:56.39
and know the people and
know how to pray for them.
00:49:56.39\00:49:59.33
We learn how to get along
and love each other better.
00:49:59.33\00:50:01.80
It's sometimes
easier in a big church.
00:50:01.80\00:50:03.20
You can come in and go out
00:50:03.20\00:50:04.40
and not really get
involved with people,
00:50:04.40\00:50:06.23
but you don't
always learn how to love.
00:50:06.23\00:50:08.20
So yeah, I think that,
00:50:08.20\00:50:11.01
I think the strength
of even the modern church
00:50:11.01\00:50:13.21
is very important to be
involved in home groups.
00:50:13.21\00:50:16.78
Now, I wouldn't abandon
the corporate getting together
00:50:16.78\00:50:19.98
or maybe a more
traditional facility,
00:50:19.98\00:50:24.15
but certainly nothing wrong
biblically with the home church.
00:50:24.15\00:50:28.06
- I think we even find
in the Bible, for example,
00:50:28.06\00:50:30.16
Colossians 4:15,
00:50:30.16\00:50:31.79
when Christians were facing
opposition and persecution,
00:50:31.79\00:50:34.56
not only from the
religious leaders in Jerusalem,
00:50:34.56\00:50:37.43
but the Romans as well.
00:50:37.43\00:50:39.00
There were groups that met
in homes and they were churches.
00:50:39.00\00:50:42.07
Colossians 4:15 says,
00:50:42.07\00:50:43.57
"Greet the brethren who
are in Laodicea and Nympha,
00:50:43.57\00:50:47.14
and the church
that is in his house."
00:50:47.14\00:50:49.58
So his house served as a
gathering place for believers.
00:50:49.58\00:50:53.38
And that was, you might
say a home church, but again,
00:50:53.38\00:50:56.32
that was the
time of persecution.
00:50:56.32\00:50:57.95
Christianity was spreading
00:50:57.95\00:50:59.25
in a place of
relative ease or peace.
00:51:00.39\00:51:02.66
There's nothing wrong
in building a building
00:51:02.66\00:51:04.53
dedicated just to
the worship of God
00:51:04.53\00:51:06.46
where believers
can gather together
00:51:06.46\00:51:07.83
and worship on a regular basis.
00:51:07.83\00:51:10.30
- You know, I think
one of the best verses
00:51:10.30\00:51:11.67
in that Pastor
Ross is in Acts 2:46,
00:51:11.67\00:51:14.90
"For continuing daily,
with one accord in the temple",
00:51:14.90\00:51:18.21
that was the public
place, "and breaking bread
00:51:18.21\00:51:21.41
from house to house",
meaning getting together,
00:51:21.41\00:51:24.48
studying as well as eating.
00:51:24.48\00:51:26.15
"They ate their
food with gladness
00:51:26.15\00:51:27.55
and simplicity of
heart, praising God."
00:51:27.55\00:51:30.05
So I think really a
healthy church needs both.
00:51:30.05\00:51:33.52
- Absolutely next
caller that we have is Steve
00:51:33.52\00:51:36.39
listening Canada,
Steve, welcome to the program.
00:51:36.39\00:51:39.89
- [Steve] Good
evening, gentlemen,
00:51:39.89\00:51:41.13
thank you very much
for everything that you do.
00:51:41.13\00:51:43.77
Like I learned as
well as many people
00:51:43.77\00:51:45.53
to try to walk the
narrow path with our savior.
00:51:45.53\00:51:48.44
I was wondering the 1/3rd
of angels who became demons
00:51:48.44\00:51:50.94
as you referred as made
by pastor Doug Batchelor
00:51:50.94\00:51:54.54
that cause conflict
in the movie as well.
00:51:54.54\00:51:57.18
Are they have
this mentality mindset
00:51:57.18\00:51:59.18
that he's weakness
from the two weakness
00:51:59.18\00:52:01.62
where I understood
that he's jealous and proud.
00:52:01.62\00:52:04.72
Do they have this character?
00:52:04.72\00:52:06.32
And one and the following,
00:52:06.32\00:52:08.72
if you don't
mind just asking me,
00:52:08.72\00:52:10.19
us when we are in Christ,
00:52:10.19\00:52:12.09
we become in the image
of Christ as our character.
00:52:12.09\00:52:14.63
But once when we seen like
Judas, Saul that you quoted,
00:52:14.63\00:52:19.63
or they became in
the character of Lucifer,
00:52:20.84\00:52:23.17
or Satan the devil,
00:52:23.17\00:52:24.77
as they are also have this
jealousy and proud in them,
00:52:24.77\00:52:28.48
that is his character.
00:52:28.48\00:52:29.64
Can we inherit his image,
00:52:29.64\00:52:31.28
his character of
Satan, what I'm saying,
00:52:31.28\00:52:33.62
just like we can get
the character of God?
00:52:33.62\00:52:36.55
- Okay, so when the angels
that were deceived by Lucifer,
00:52:36.55\00:52:41.56
when they fell and chose to
follow Lucifer in his rebellion,
00:52:42.96\00:52:46.49
they began to take on the
characteristics of Lucifer,
00:52:46.49\00:52:49.56
which were
pride and selfishness.
00:52:49.56\00:52:52.23
And of course the human race.
00:52:52.23\00:52:54.40
When we fell into sin
through our first parents,
00:52:54.40\00:52:57.54
our love nature was damaged
00:52:57.54\00:52:59.47
and we became
very selfish creatures.
00:52:59.47\00:53:01.64
So I think that, I dunno,
00:53:01.64\00:53:03.14
Pastor Ross had seemed
to me that everybody that,
00:53:03.14\00:53:06.28
unless we're
converted and born again,
00:53:06.28\00:53:07.95
people are motivated
by selfishness and pride
00:53:07.95\00:53:11.49
and we need to have
our image transformed.
00:53:11.49\00:53:16.49
You know, all old
things passed away,
00:53:17.66\00:53:18.89
all things made new,
we're being conformed
00:53:18.89\00:53:20.56
into the image of His Son.
00:53:20.56\00:53:22.66
And so that is
the plan of salvation.
00:53:22.66\00:53:24.77
- You know at the
end of time pastor,
00:53:24.77\00:53:26.07
two groups of
people are described
00:53:26.07\00:53:27.57
in the book of Revelation.
00:53:27.57\00:53:28.77
Those with the
mark of the beast.
00:53:28.77\00:53:29.84
And those with the seal of God.
00:53:29.84\00:53:31.47
Those with the seal of God,
00:53:31.47\00:53:32.97
they reflect the
character of God.
00:53:32.97\00:53:35.38
Those with the mark of the beast
00:53:35.38\00:53:36.91
they reflect the character
or the image of the beast,
00:53:36.91\00:53:39.35
meaning pride, selfishness.
00:53:39.35\00:53:41.48
So yes, as we
surrender to the Spirit of God,
00:53:41.48\00:53:44.52
as we seek God to
guide and work within us,
00:53:44.52\00:53:46.79
He creates a
new person by faith,
00:53:46.79\00:53:50.26
little by little it's
called sanctification.
00:53:50.26\00:53:52.69
Absolutely.
00:53:52.69\00:53:53.63
If we reject that though,
00:53:53.63\00:53:54.60
we are setting ourselves up
00:53:54.60\00:53:56.16
to reflect more
and more the devil.
00:53:56.16\00:53:58.50
- That's right.
00:53:58.50\00:53:59.80
You know, when we have
a Bible lesson that talk,
00:53:59.80\00:54:01.07
well, first of all,
00:54:01.07\00:54:02.54
our caller asked about
the "Cosmic Conflict" DVD.
00:54:02.54\00:54:05.34
If you wanna know
more about this rebellion,
00:54:05.34\00:54:07.18
where did sin come from?
00:54:07.18\00:54:10.51
If God is more
powerful than the devil,
00:54:10.51\00:54:12.58
then if God is
good and if He's loving,
00:54:12.58\00:54:14.95
why doesn't He
destroy the devil?
00:54:14.95\00:54:16.42
Did He make a devil?
00:54:16.42\00:54:17.65
Why is there evil in
the world if God is good?
00:54:17.65\00:54:20.39
This is the big
question a lot of atheists ask.
00:54:20.39\00:54:22.39
They say, "If God's so
good, if there's a God,
00:54:22.39\00:54:24.89
why is there
innocent people suffering?"
00:54:24.89\00:54:27.66
All of this is
answered in that DVD
00:54:27.66\00:54:29.60
called "Cosmic Conflict."
00:54:29.60\00:54:31.60
And you can order
that from Amazing Facts,
00:54:31.60\00:54:33.57
or you can probably
listen to it for free.
00:54:33.57\00:54:35.54
Everything seems
to land on YouTube.
00:54:35.54\00:54:37.57
If you just go to YouTube,
I'm quite certain it's there.
00:54:37.57\00:54:40.08
Type in "Cosmic Conflict"
00:54:40.08\00:54:41.94
and that'll really
help you understand that.
00:54:41.94\00:54:44.11
Also there's a
lesson you can get
00:54:44.11\00:54:45.88
called, "Did
God create a devil?"
00:54:45.88\00:54:48.35
How do they get that?
00:54:48.35\00:54:49.58
- The number to call
for that is 800-835-6747.
00:54:49.58\00:54:53.39
And just simply
ask for the study guide
00:54:53.39\00:54:55.29
it's called, "Did
God Create a Devil?"
00:54:55.29\00:54:58.19
And pastor we hear the
music playing the background,
00:54:58.19\00:55:00.33
but to those
listening on satellite
00:55:00.33\00:55:02.30
we can be signing off, but
for the rest of you stay by,
00:55:02.30\00:55:04.83
we've got some
great internet questions
00:55:04.83\00:55:07.07
that we're gonna be answering.
00:55:07.07\00:55:08.57
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- Hello, friends, welcome back.
00:55:27.92\00:55:29.19
This is our final
internet questions
00:55:29.19\00:55:31.79
that have been sent in.
00:55:31.79\00:55:33.23
Pastor Doug, we have
about a minute and a half
00:55:33.23\00:55:34.73
to try and answer as many
of the questions as we can.
00:55:34.73\00:55:37.47
So we'll get right to it.
00:55:37.47\00:55:38.60
Here's the first one.
00:55:38.60\00:55:40.30
"How can I stay calm when
somebody else falsely accuses
00:55:40.30\00:55:44.71
me?" - Well, it's
not necessarily a sin
00:55:45.87\00:55:47.34
to feel some indignation
when you're falsely accused,
00:55:47.34\00:55:50.25
but I believe that the
reason we can find calmness
00:55:50.25\00:55:53.38
is through the Spirit of God.
00:55:53.38\00:55:54.65
Knowing Jesus went
through the same thing.
00:55:54.65\00:55:56.82
Look at Christ at His trial,
00:55:56.82\00:55:58.22
how calmly He bore
all of the false testimony
00:55:58.22\00:56:01.52
that was hurled at Him.
00:56:01.52\00:56:03.02
So it's not unnatural to
feel some righteous indignation,
00:56:03.02\00:56:07.86
but then
hopefully you'll find peace
00:56:07.86\00:56:09.86
knowing I can't change
that, I can only change me.
00:56:09.86\00:56:12.57
- Next question that we have.
00:56:13.70\00:56:14.90
Why did Jesus cry
out, "My God, My God,
00:56:14.90\00:56:17.04
why have You
forsaken Me" on the cross
00:56:17.04\00:56:19.41
when He knew what was
going on and what was to happen?
00:56:19.41\00:56:22.88
- Well, some people think
00:56:22.88\00:56:24.15
that Jesus
reached a point of despair
00:56:24.15\00:56:26.51
when He cried out
00:56:26.51\00:56:27.75
"My God, My God, why
have You forsaken Me?"
00:56:27.75\00:56:29.78
That's actually the
first verse in Psalm 22,
00:56:29.78\00:56:33.36
which was a messianic Psalm,
00:56:33.36\00:56:35.46
which they would normally
quote from the messianic Psalms
00:56:35.46\00:56:38.43
during the Passover.
00:56:38.43\00:56:39.86
Christ, hanging on the
cross, quoted from the Psalm
00:56:39.86\00:56:42.90
that pointed to
what He was experiencing.
00:56:42.90\00:56:45.83
And in that very Psalm, it says,
00:56:45.83\00:56:48.20
"They pierced my
hands and my feet."
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And people would see Him
saying that on the cross.
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And they'd go, "This is the
prophecy that tells who He is."
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He was not uttering despair,
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'cause Jesus did
not ever lose faith.
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He was basically pointing us
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to the
fulfillment of that prophecy.
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- Okay, another
question that we have,
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"If I don't know
that I'm doing wrong,
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will God judge me for that?"
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- Well, the Bible
tells us in the book of Luke,
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"To him who knows his
master's will and does not do it
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he will be beaten
with many stripes.
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He that did not know and
disobeyed is beaten with few."
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You are more
accountable for when you know,
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God says, "My people are
destroyed for lack of knowledge,
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because they've
rejected knowledge."
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And so there is more
accountability when we know
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God's will. Jesus said,
"For someone who does not know,
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if you did not know
you would have no sin,
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but now that you say
you see, your sin remains."
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And that's the gospel of John.
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- Maybe time for
one more Pastor Doug.
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"Why didn't Daniel
go straight to heaven?"
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- Okay, meaning
Daniel the prophet.
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Believe it or not friends,
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there is more than
one Daniel in the Bible.
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You know, it's
really easier to ask
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why didn't all the other good
prophets go right to heaven?
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Like Elijah or Enoch.
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All the other good
prophets went to their graves.
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God said, "Daniel, you
will sleep until that day
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the last day of
the judgment day."
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Friends we are now out of time,
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stay tuned for
some important messages.
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